The Bossticks - Heidi Klum - How To Thrive In Life, Wellness, Beauty, & How To Find Success In Any Endeavor

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

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And they're like, okay, let's do a shot on Heidi. And I'm like, okay, I mean, I always want it. I was always first one there, last one there. I actually love the job. Amazing locations. You know, you get up really early at like four, and then you're on the beach when the sun rises because you're waiting for the beautiful sun.

And I never mind it. There were a lot of girls that were like, okay, when are we done? I got to go. I was always like, okay, what else can we shoot? So I was always more like that. But not because I wanted to lick booty. It was just because I wanted to have more photos,

more opportunities, and I just loved it. I manifested Heidi Kloom on the podcast so long ago. I told Michael, I was like, we are going to get Heidi on the show. And today, that manifestation is real. Heidi Kloom, a German-American model, television host, producer, businesswoman, mother of four is telling us all the things. You're going to hear her story, her experience with modeling, what it felt like to wear those big Victoria secret wings, wellness. health, beauty, diet, what she thinks of Howard Stern.

And a bunch of Heidi's secrets. We even get in to the Halloween costumes, okay? We really went everywhere. She was absolutely lovely to talk to. What a delight. Heidi Kloom, welcome to the Him and Her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. Heidi Kloom looking gorgeous.

This outfit is so major. It's a stunning set. We're so excited to have you in students. Thank you. I kind of want to tell your story in this episode. So talk to us before you were like Heidi Kloom. When you were a little girl. I was always Heidi Kloom. This is not a stage name. I was always Heidi Kloom. I don't have a middle name. No middle name. No. I was born in a small town called Bergesklappach, which is outside of Cologne in Germany. And yeah, I went to school. I was a happy kid. I was outside a lot. I had a lot of hobbies, painting, mostly. dancing. So I did like all kind of dance that you can imagine from belly dancing to hip pop to ballerina to fox straw jazz, you name it. I did most of it, tap. And yeah, I lived my life and entered this modeling competition that I found in a magazine, cut out the coupon, send it in with a few holiday photos of myself. And it was a big, big contest.

was on television, something that I do right now also for 20 years, finding, you know, models. And I won this contest. And that's how everything got started. Did you know as a little girl that you wanted to do something like that? You wanted to be... I wanted to be a dancer. Okay. So you wanted to kind of, you wanted to be on a stage of some kind. I wanted to be on stage, yeah. Did you think when you were little that getting in through modeling would help you achieve dancing? No. No. No. No. That was just by a fluke. I was like, ooh, this sounds like fun. coupon photos, send it. I did.

didn't even think modeling was a job or anything like that. I hadn't even thought about it. So was there a eureka moment when you first started modeling that you felt like really took you off? Did you win the contest? I won the contest. I won the contest. I won 300,000 Deutschmark, which is maybe half, you know, like maybe $150,000. Oh, wow. Maybe something like that in conversion now. So that was a lot of dough, especially, you know, this was in 1992. two. So I bought my first apartment right away. You know, most kids at that age were still with their parents and some still are. And I, you know, I bought my first apartment from that money. So it was

like, oh my gosh, this was fantastic. And went to Milan, to Paris, to London, kind of graced Europe for a little bit. But at that time, you know, I was too curvy, too happy to, you know, not wave cool heroin chic, how everyone was kind of looking at that time. And then I was like, okay, no one really wants me here. Then I went to America and they wanted me here. So I did a lot of catalogs in the beginning, which I loved. But I also wanted to do some fun stuff, like cool editorial, you know, and most of the time you either do one or the other. At that time, they didn't have this where, you know, actors were not doing magazine covers so much. It was more models at the time, and models were doing modeling things.

And over the years, it kind of all became okay that everyone is allowed to do everything. But at that time, a catalog model was a catalog model and a high fashion model was a high fashion model. So it was kind of more set apart like that. I got lucky. I got a few things here and there. And the ball started slowly to roll.

Did you think about it from the beginning as an entrepreneur? Because I would classify you as an entrepreneur first. Were you always like that? Well, my dad worked for 4711, which is, you know, here it's a gas station. But in Germany, it's like one of the big perfume houses. And so this is where I did my three weeks internship. And I learned everything from being on the conveyor belt to how production works, to, you know, how the bottles, you know, everything from beginning of a product to end of a product. and then it was easy for my dad to make my own perfume.

So like in the very beginning, I had my own perfume. So I came up with the design of the bottle and all of these different things. And we could just do it because my dad worked at this company. So I saw that, oh, wow, we can make products and all of these things. So yeah. And also because I lived close to where a Birkenstock company was. And my dad knew the brothers. You know, there were brothers, Berkinstock brothers.

And so I said, you know, they look all. always so snoo these these burk and stock shoes. Why can we not jazz them up? Let's bling them out. And they were like, really? We should do that? And I'm like, yes. So I did a deal with them. And I had my own Birkenstocks. And this is also like 25 years ago. So when I saw that, oh, I love this, but how could I put my kind of sprinkle on it and change it up a little bit? Like people let me do things. Then I started with jewelry or, you know, different things like that. So I started making products. Yeah. It also seems like you, to me, As someone who's watched your career, it seems like you've added a lot of personality to modeling that maybe wasn't there before.

Do you feel like you said you sprinkled like your essence? Like, do you feel like you've added that to modeling? There's a different layer. I mean, I added it to, you know, my field, yes, a little bit. But again, you know, there's so many different fields within the modeling. Again, you know, when I was doing Victoria's Secret, for example, that's kind of where it all happened backstage because we would always get interviewed. And a lot of the interviewers wouldn't really get the answers from the models. And I was like, I get the answers.

Just give me the mic and let me just run around backstage. So they kind of let me, you know, run with it. So I would interview all the models backstage, you know, like Stephanie Seymour or Claudia or Naomi, whoever was there at the time because it was always fantastic. They always had all these amazing models. And so I kind of dabbled my feet into, you know, a little bit of, small little hosting gigs like that. And I don't know, people liked it.

I would always talk to the people at home. Like, I would look into the camera, even though normally people tell you like, don't look in the camera. We're not really here. But I'm like, but they're there. And I want to talk to them at home. So I would just kind of do things

that naturally were coming to me and people liked it. And then I got more and more gigs like that. What would surprise the audience about the behind the scenes of modeling? Because it seems like there's so many dynamics from Milan to Victoria's Secret. Like there's all these women.

in, I'm sure everyone's on their period at the same time. Like, what is it really like behind the scenes? I have to take five pictures and I start to sweat and can't handle it. I always say, it's a hard gig. It is a hard gig. And you got to, you got to make sure your body's the right way. I mean, it's a lot of work. We did like a 30 or 60 second commercial there. It took all day. I could not, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. It takes for two minutes. We're used to doing this quickly for like an hour. See, for me, it was never hard. You loved it. I loved it. I never really had to work hard on my body, let's say, or anything like that, you know, I was just kind of the way I was.

I could always eat whatever I wanted. I never had to count calories or not eat certain candy or whatever. So I was just kind of lucky that I could just, I guess because I'm so hyper already as it is, maybe I just, I needed all the fuel. Just burned it all. I guess, yeah. And for me, it was always fun, you know. Afterwards now, so many people are telling stories about how the business was.

I don't know, everyone is different and has a different experience. I always had a great experience. Yes, there are sleaze bags along the way, but I feel like for me, I always gave them the vibe. There's no sleezing here with me, so back the F-Up. She says the same thing. There's an energy. I feel like there's an energy that you can give to people,

and I feel like they always got it for me, so I never really got too harassed by people. You know, they try, but I feel like they know that you're not the kind of girl to mess with. Yeah, you give a little energy. Like, don't fuck with me. I'm not the one. Well, I think those type of, I would just say, men that are programmed that way are maybe weak

themselves in program to go after things that they consider easy marks, right? And so if they think you're going to come back at them, they're already kind of weak in the first place. Does that make sense? Yeah. But for me, I never really had any weird stories happen to me like that. I mean, that's amazing. because we've had different models on.

There's all kinds of stories. No, I know. Sounds like your experience has been just a really, like, joyful experience. Yeah. What's a moment that you can remember early on that was, like, a huge deal for you? I mean, everything was. Everything was. Sports Illustrated.

I mean, even when I was still in Europe, you know, in the very beginning, I did my first big campaign was for Gimanshi. I did the big Amarish campaign, which was a perfume at the time. They wanted to grow up with the first. blue eyes and blonde hair and I was brunette and I have hazel eyes so they popped in gorgeous lenses my eyes were like yours gorgeous blue eyes I was like I love this they made me platinum blonde I was like why are then at booking a blonde but I was like I take the paycheck and I have that that photo at the end of the day so it was perfect I loved it and yeah so that was was amazing

for me and then yeah I was Sports Illustrator Victoria's Secret because At that time, it was hard to get into those jobs because you literally would know every girl that was in Sports Illustrated. You would know every girl that was in Victoria's Secret. And just every so often, they would have a new person join. And so I couldn't believe it when they were like, yeah, we want you to be one of the girls. Was it friendly or competitive or both? I had some friends and some girls were more competitive than others. Yeah, I mean, I was also on the sideline a lot, kind of like a soccer player.

that doesn't get to play just yet because they want to kind of it's all about money and they want to see at the end if you sell or not so they give you maybe one or two photos let's say in the victoria secret catalog and then once it's out and people are shopping they want to see if the look that you were sold or not and after a few months they saw that my things were selling and then they would give me more things so i got to play you know before i was always waiting and they're like okay let's do a shot on hidey and i'm like okay i mean i always want it i was always first one there last one there. I actually love the job. Amazing locations. You know, you get up really early at like four and then you're on the beach when the sun rises because you're waiting for the beautiful sun.

That's always in the morning or at the end of the day. And I never mind it. There were a lot of girls that were like, okay, when are we done? I got to go. Yeah. You know? And I was always like, okay, what else can we shoot? So I was always more like that. But not because I wanted to like booty. It was just because I wanted to have more photos, more opportunities. and I just loved it. If you're giving advice to someone who wants to get into your industry, it sounds like good attitude would be a huge one. What are the other things? I mean, I think with everything, no?

Wouldn't you rather work with someone who has a good attitude around you than someone who's always complaining or like, oh, another shot, or when is lunch, or, you know, constantly, you know, it's annoying when you have someone like that around. So I think, yes, it was always easier to work with me maybe then with some of the others. and I would get the job done and maybe even extra. And then, you know, they were happy to book me again.

I remember like the whole Victoria's Secret Catalog being you at one point. Like I remember opening it and you were like on every page. When you're walking down the runway in those insane wings, was that like such a moment? Yes. Yeah. Yes. I was always like if I don't get the big wings, I'm going to be really upset. You got the big wings.

It was funny because like a lot of the girls were not interested. in the wings. A lot of them weren't. I mean, they were always saying that, oh, this is so silly about the wings. I always love them. When else do you get to wear them?

Apart from Halloween, when can you strap on some big old wings and run around in your underwear? Which, by the way, Halloween's coming up and I might need to get some, I might need to get some pointers

for you in Halloween. Because you crush Halloween. Do you already know what you're going to be for Halloween? Yes. You already have, but it's a secret, right? Well, I always like to surprise people.

And I don't even want to make always a big thing about it, but I always feel like if I tell people already what I'm going to do, they think about what it's going to be. And then I show up and they're like, it's not as good as I thought, you know? So I never want to do that. I kind of like more the surprise when they see it for the first time.

Wait, weren't you a worm one year or something? I was. A worm, right? I was a real earthworm. That's a cute one. Yeah, thank you. How do you come up with these costumes? I don't know.

In the shower when I sit on a toilet. In various places. Yeah, in various places. I mean, what's so cool is that, like, most girls who are so beautiful are dressing up in, like, these slutty costumes. And here is you, like, dressed as a worm. It's just like you would never. I know. People say that all the time.

The just a position is so funny. But I feel like I get to dress up sexy all the time. Yeah. You know, like most of the time I don't have a whole lot on or, you know, you strut your stuff down the runway and not wearing a lot. Or are you in a fashion shoot? And then again, what is the fashion? just a G string and you hold your top. There's not a whole lot there.

So I feel like I get to do this all the time. So to me it's almost not interesting anymore because I get to play that sexy girl a lot. So I'd rather be in worm. To me, it's more fun. I relate to this, Lauren. I'm just really tired of being the sexy. Maybe I'll be a worm this year.

I'm gonna give you a really ugly costume. I still have my worm costume. I don't know if you fit in it. It was made for me. I don't think you're gonna be a little broader than me and musly and everything. I'll squeeze into the worm costume. I'm telling you it is a tight squeeze in there.

It's not fun. You have to be okay with your cluster. How did you not like sweat through the worm costume? Oh yeah, you're sweating. You could even pee down there. No, no. Everything is just. But I didn't.

I didn't. If I can pee down it. I didn't know because you worry. A lot of the times you make costumes and you're like, how the heck am I supposed to go into the toilet? You haven't even thought of that. What are you doing? I mean, I don't eat or drink like three hours before.

I know. I don't think that your worm would fit in the worm costume, so I don't think that one. Yeah, you know. I don't think you would only know. How do you prepare your daughter for going into this industry? It looks like she's, I mean, her Instagram, she's so beautiful, just like you, like, what are you telling her the tools to do? Like, are you saying show up on time? Like, what are the things you taught?

I think my kids are prepared from just living and being around me their whole entire life, you know? So they know mommy gets up early and obviously now I'm not mommy anymore. Mom. What time do you get up? Well, it depends on, I mean, six most of the time. Yeah. So they know I'm up and I'm taking a shower every day, shave my bits, go to work, you know, come home, sit at the dinner table with them.

At 7 o'clock, we always eat. It used to be 6 now that they're older at 7. So we have like, and they see, they see my work ethic. And also, you know, when I talk about things that happened during the day, you know, when you sit around the dinner table, they talk about their lives. I talk about what happened in my life that day, and we kind of exchange notes on what happened. So I feel like that whole over years, you know, they learn all of those things, I think. So it's not like all of a sudden, okay, no, you want a model.

Okay, here's the list. You know, I mean, they've been at set many times. You know, they've come to Project One Way making the cut, Germany's next top model or photo shoots, whatever it is. You know, they've always come and see me prepare or, you know, do all the things. things that you have to do outside, not just on the job, you know, even at home. They see me in my office all the time, preparing, casting. Like right now I'm casting for my 20th year of Germany's next top model. It's a show that I do in Germany. So now I cast thousands of people. Like people don't realize. They're like, all of a sudden all these people show up, but I cast them all.

So I have to go through all of them and pick the ones that I want to be on the show. Like now, I'm going to cast a hundred girls and a hundred boys that I want to see. in person when I go to Germany, but out of thousands of boys and out of thousands of girls. So even now, when I'm in the car, in the way here, I'm looking at photos and videos and screenshots and send to my producers like, okay, I want to meet all of these people. My kids see all of that stuff. What catches your attention when you're going through that many photos and those videos are videos of videos?

Videos, photos, yeah. So what are you looking for specifically? I don't look for anything specific. Nothing. Not even like you're not looking at symmetry. not looking at anything. No, like I see them and then I'm like, they have it or they don't have it. So I don't go in it beforehand and be like, okay, I'm looking for this height, this way, this hair color, this eye color. I don't. I just go in open-minded and I see all the different

because there's all these amazing faces and body shapes and heights. And so I look at someone who has something special because there's, again, that I'm doing it right now, there's so many of them. And obviously, everyone has something gorgeous and something. So I, can find something beautiful and gorgeous in everyone, but some really have something that grabs my attention. And then... Is it like a charisma thing, or is it like a personality thing? Or is just something, like, you can't even describe it?

Well, at the end, it's more of a charisma thing. And then obviously when I spend three... Because we film for three and a half, four months, it's like doing a movie. I do 20-two-hour episodes. So in order to do that, we film like four days for one episode. So I get to know them very well.

and then obviously the person becomes sometimes more important to me than the outer shell. But as a model, you have to look first at the outer shell because that is kind of what is part of this job a little bit. And then the person becomes a little bit secondary more important to me. But then that overrules afterwards. People are taking notes if they want to be a model. How was it like working with Howard Stern? You guys together, like I don't, it just works. What was that like for you?

Like being next to a kind of a grumpy grandmother a little bit. A grumpy grandmother. I love how... That's what they're going to pull for the headline. No, like a little grumpy grandmother because I love him. And I know him for many years, but he is a lot of the times he's grumpy. Where I'm kind of like, let's see always the glass a little bit more full than empty. He would be always seen it rather on the empty side, you know?

He's like, I take this job very seriously. And I'm like, so do I. You know, I might be like, oh, laughing and fun, but I also take it serious, you know, but let's have a little fun. We're here for many weeks. He's like when I sit, when I was singing, he was annoyed. But I love him. I love you, Howard. I know you watching.

I don't know. He's a big list of marriage. Howard, we know you're watching. No, but he would hate it when I'm singing. And I'm like, we're not on the air. We're in a break. There's 4,000 people screaming behind us. It annoys you that I'm sitting here singing to myself.

a little bit. I don't even know I'm doing it, but it would annoy him. He was being a curmudgeon. Like a grumpy little grandma. Yes. You know? What else is it like filming that show? What is the behind the scenes? Do you love it? I love it. And it's again like you have no idea who's coming. I mean, now I do because we've done auditions already and now we're in the live shows. So I've seen all of these people before. But when we do auditions, you know, there's hundreds of people that come. the next one, the next one, the next one, and you're like, okay, how is this going to be? And you wonder, they open their mouth and it's like, sometimes you're blown away. And you're like, why are you not a superstar yet?

But maybe tomorrow after people will see you, that might change. And then there's some who told you that you have a talent. Why are you here? You know, but that's what makes it so amazing. It's interesting because the career that you have now is a lot of giving back to people who can do what you do. Like you're giving people an opportunity to be a model. You're giving people an opportunity to be a star. That must feel good.

It's like giving back. Especially when we have the golden buzzer, you know, like we get a golden buzzer. So with this golden buzzer, you can move people forward to basically the last show, the finale or the live shows when then America can vote on the people that you take. How many times are you going to hit that buzzer? Well, now, because Simon is buzzer trigger happy. We'll get to push it a lot now. It used to be only once in auditions,

but now we get to do it in the live show. Everyone gets one. And last week when it was Howie's turn, Simon pushed it at the same time as Howie. I mean, he just changes the rules every day, which I love because he's the boss. He can do whatever the heck he wants, and I love him for it.

How many years have that show been going on now? Wow. This is our 19th season, and I've been there 11 years. Wow. And it's so fun. People are always like, but this isn't this getting old? How can it get old? Because there's always a new person.

Like for you guys, you always interview a new person with a new story and it doesn't get old. It doesn't get old. So there's a new person with doing something crazy. Well, in the format for you and for us always changes. Like we have so many diverse conversations, diverse people on the show with so many different topics and you see so many different acts. I think it would get bored if it was the same type of thing over and over. What is your routine to make all of this happen if you have one? Do you have like a morning setup, a nighttime setup,

are there things that you always do every day? No, I should have that. So you're just more fluid on the go. There's no like way you like to run your day. It's just every day is different. Yeah. Natural energy always. Yeah.

I mean, I mean, I have, for example, it's funny because someone asked me that the other day, how I have my closet. Like I don't have my closet, for example, color coordinated. I have it done by moods. So like, for example, Because it makes no sense to me. Like if, let's say we have like, oh, we're doing like a girl's night out and Sophia and I will go to dinner or whatever, it's usually like a sexy cocktail, as she would say in the outfit, I go to that section.

I don't go to a color. Like it's not, the color is not giving me the feeling. Or if I'm going out with my husband and it's like Uber mini, uber sexy, I go to that over sexy section. You know, if I have to go to school or something a little bit more preppy proper, I go to that. that section and then within that section I pick whatever colors, you know, but do you know what I mean? You have people come over to help with the color and I can't find anything. How did you pick your outfit

that you're wearing today then? What section did you go to? It's just chilled. It's just, yeah. What is a girl's night look like easy with you and Sophia? Heidi and Sophia are out of the town. Well, a lot of the times we will be like, okay, let's make. Probably not getting much attention. No, no. Yeah, I can imagine. No, literally you have idea. No, I have an idea. No, usually we make

like a theme. Let's do a theme and then we show up in whatever theme it is. Or we're just sexy. But then we get there. Literally, the waiters will run into each other. Like it happened numerous times. Literally, no, food is flying. Food is flying. They look because when Sophia walks in, it's like literally the waiters went like food is everywhere. Food is literally

everywhere. They're stumbling over their mouth with the fork. No, they're like stumbling over their own feet. Like, no, it's crazy. But that's Sophia. This never happens to me when I go anywhere on my own. So I know it is Sophia. What are these places you probably need? It's not like a Denny's.

No, we went to Madeo. The new Maddeo. The new Madreo. The new Madero. We haven't been to Madeo. We haven't been to Madeo in a long time. That's a great place. So the new Madeo, what are you drinking?

Cocktails? Well, I don't really love alcohol so much, but I will have a cocktail. If I would have one, I would have like a leachy martini. I need to have disguise of the alcohol. Okay. I don't like anything. Yeah, it's terrible. Not a glass of champagne.

No, it's like sour. It burps up all the time. It's not my thing. Okay. I mean, I would have a beer maybe. Okay. And so when you guys go on Girls' Night, what are you eating? Is it like Girl Talk?

Like, what's the vibes that of your girls' night? Girl Talk. I mean, you know, if it's truffle season, I would love to have like a spaghetti with truffle, for example. Love it. And from Madeo's pretty good. Yes. Right?

Because I was just, I'm thinking about Madios. Because it closed for a while. Because we bounced between here in Texas. And it closed when we were gone from. but we used to go there all the time. Yes, it used to be in this basement kind of, you know, when you go down the stairs, and that was this gigantic place. Is it still there on, like, third or by, no.

I have no idea. It was on Beverly for a while, or down in by Rodea. We love that. We love Nobu, Matsuhisa, Mr. Chow, you know, the good old stomping ground. Same with my kids. They're very funny when we go to a different kind of sushi. They're like, it's just not like Matsuhisa. And I'm like, no, it's not.

I'm very easily satisfied. I'm always content with the best. It's the best. This does not taste like it. What have been looking back on your whole career, the biggest challenges you've faced, and how have you overcome them? My challenges?

The only thing that was ever challenging were my man. What do you have to? Business-wise, I don't know. It was always kind of easy. I loved my job. I was always, and I still do. Just men are always kind of. complicated. Either they're upset

with that you do well or that you're traveling or they're always upset at something. Now I'm looking at you. I don't know what it is. They are always upset. There's always something. I don't know. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, and I couldn't quite figure it always out.

I mean, right now, or maybe it was, you know, now I'm with a German man. Knock on wood. Is this wood or is this plastic? This wood. Okay, good. A little bit of crinice on the wood. It's like, right now it's like working out perfectly. and maybe it's because we're both German.

Did you not date German guys before? No. But German guys are also kind of... I ran away from Germany. I have a lot of German friends. They're very particular sometimes, these German men. That's a good thing. It could be a good thing. I mean, no, my husband is also kind of easygoing like I am.

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Yeah, a little bit. right now. Yeah. If I give you any more attention, I mean, I can't give you any more attention. He wants to talk when he's in the shower. He wants to talk when we're in the car in the morning. Are you chatty? I'm chatty.

I'm chatty. I got kicked out of every school. I said, this guy's got to shut up. And now I laugh at my teachers because I just talk for a living. Okay. I have to ask these questions for the audience or they will be very mad. Wellness routines. Do you have wellness beauty routines that you do?

Yeah, I think less is more. Talk about that. You know, I mean, what I do a lot, maybe like once or twice a week. I like to do Epson salt bath. I just feel like it does something. I love being hot. I hate everything cold. I don't know how people go into these cold ice things.

You do that? Every day. You see, like, I would never do this. I have an ice fuller for you. No, I want to give it to your daughter. No, because people say all the time this is very good for what, inflammation or healing. I'm like, it's not healing for me. I think for me it would do the opposite.

I love everything that's hot. Hot bath, hot shower. Sona. Yes, I usually have like this, you know, these belts that you put on and it has like a thing on your back? No. These heated things. Like an infrared? Like the light therapy thing?

No, it's just like a little padded thing. And when it touches your skin, it gets hot like a heat pad. Yeah, but you can also belt it. So it's like a Velco thing. And it's like a one-time use type thing, but I love it. I fly with this all the time. So you hot all the time. You like hot.

I like it hot. And what about beauty? Same at home. My husband wants to make it cold. That's the only thing. He loves a cold. I don't. I love it hot.

Oh, my God. They said 67's what you should sleep with. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no. Sixty-seven is good for... No, that's not good for me. It's not good for me. If it's over 68, I'm going to be sweating.

It's not good for me. What are your beauty tips? Give us your beauty tips that you learn, especially when you're modeling. You're around all these women. I'm sure, like, you've got to have, like, the best beauty tips. I feel like it's a book. I mean, definitely, you know, drink a lot of water, take your makeup off all the time, let those pores breathe. I mean, I'm also not a whole head-toe moisturize a person.

I do it every now. I feel like, no, not so often because I feel like if you do it all the time, then your body gets so used to it and wants it and craves it. I feel like you make your own oils more kind of when you don't overdo it all the time. So people are like, what do you pee and you don't moisturize from head to toe all the time? I just never have. I think that you're right, your body starts to want it. Yeah. And then you're on like a vicious cycle.

Yeah. I'm like that too. I also sometimes I'll sleep with no skincare on my face. And I'll just let it breathe. Yeah, just let it. Yes. Just give it a moment. Yeah.

What about health? You said that you can eat whatever you want. You can eat whatever you want and you don't have to worry about it still. Yeah. I mean, now I'm like I have a little bit of a cholesterol problem. And that is only because I like I go once a year to this retreat. It's kind of like a hospital mixed with a spa, but it's more hospital than spa. Like I have, for example, they have a little camera.

Colony. Yes. No, no, no, no. It's like a full on. Colonoscopy. You know, where they do that or they even go down here and they look into your stomach. So they do all of these types of things there. And I have it done, you know, as you're supposed to. They also have these donuts, those MRI things.

I go in there for like an hour and 15 minutes, you know, that you do this ever? Is it like a, well, yeah, no. Is this place in Switzerland? It is, yeah. Where I go, it's in Austria. Okay, I think I've heard of this. You know, Barbara Sturm goes there. I know, I forgot the name of it.

Yeah, you learn how to eat better again, and I know how to eat better, but really what is so important is that you chew your food more before you swallow. You know, they teach you again that the breaking down has to start in the mouth. You shouldn't drink while you eat, and that's not alcohol. That's just like water, too. You shouldn't drink anything to dilute the. fluid, your asset to break down your food, or you shouldn't eat raw things at night, for example, no salads or anything that's raw.

What about like sushi? Well, that's raw. So they say no sushi. Because it just doesn't break down as well because you're in sleep motors at night, so you're a little bit more calm. So your body then has to work on overdrive. So even fruits or anything like that, it's also raw. So, you know, in the past, I've always thought salad is good to eat at night, but they tell

you not to. And I don't know, this place is also not like knowing everything about everyone, and everyone is different. Yeah, but they're probably right about a lot. I think the problem with a lot of people is we just had a sleep expert on where they, people eat and then they go right to bed. And then they don't give their body time to digest while they're awake and your body's not, you're supposed to detox at night. Yeah. You know, so you're just sitting there trying to digest all this stuff. And when you do raw, it's on actual overdrive.

So they tell you not to do that. So they teach you those types of things. Do they give you all your labs, like all your blood work? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And then they found out that I have a little bit of a coral, lessor, problem. I was like, wow, how is that possible? I would have considered myself more on the thinner side and then, like I said, has nothing to do with it. You can also have this hereditary. So, you know,

I have that for my, for my folks, I guess. This is debatable, though. There's been people that, as of recent, like, cholesterol has kind of been this bad, and I'm by no means a doctor, but I hear a lot of our friends that are in that field talking about, like, those signals may not be as bad as people think. Like, they used to point to cholesterol as this big problem. But, but they, but they can look at your tubes, meaning your arteries, and they can see if there is things on your walls already that are forming, which then closes in your tube for blood to go through. So you have to check it, you know, because otherwise all that schmuck, is that schmuck? What do you call that stuff? Yeah, that's, that goes around it. If it closes in, then that's when you get a clot,

and then the blood cannot go to all the places anymore. So you have to... You know, there's a supplement called natokinase. I know, but that's like, again, chemical. No, no, no, it's from the Japanese Netto plant. I'm from Japanese Netto. And they say that that can help clear. You're acting like you're a doctor. I know. I can't believe all this shit, you know. He's giving you doctor advice about your cholesterol. I started taking it because I was worried about the same thing. Like, oh, I don't

like that kind of stuff. But that's why I also stopped drinking coffee with a lot of cream and a lot of sugar in the morning. Because I would do like two or three of those in the morning and they're like, what are you doing? You can't do this. So what do you eat for breakfast? This morning. It all depends. It changes. What's a go-to breakfast that you eat? Like I would have like a nice bread, but I'm talking about a nice bread, not like a toast that has nothing in it. Like it would have sprouts and actual seeds in it. Like I want to see all those seeds in it.

It has to be dark. And then I toast it. Then I put butter on it. I know everyone thinks that's weird. And cholesterol, I get it. But I have to smear the whole shot a little bit because then I put the next layer of something on, which will be, I don't know, like a turkey or a salami. Or I would put on like avocado or an egg. not too many eggs, I can't eat anymore either.

Meanwhile, I'm like, I can eat anything. No, but like anything, meaning like I would like scramble sometimes three of those eggs on a daily and they're like, that's too many, you know? It sounds like this place like really evaluates everything you do and helps you make tiny changes that make a big difference in the time. Like before I would do literally like, I would do because I love broth and soups. So I would have like broth and then I would stir like three eggs in there instead of frying them. I put them in there, like an egg drop soup, and I would just drink that. It's the yummiest thing, but obviously I can't do that 24-7, like every day three of those eggs. So the cholesterol was like, so now I just do this every now and then.

The other day, I had a whole lemon. You know how everyone loves blending those whole lemons? I tried it with the skin, with the seeds, with everything. It was actually pretty good. So now I do that every now and then. Wait, you throw a whole lemon in the blender. What do you put in? So you wash it?

I mean, I don't do it with the seeds. ice because you're not supposed to put so much coldness into your body either. Yeah, Michael. Take note. I was just wondering how they... Michael's doing a lot of coldness. No, I just put a little water because otherwise it's like pudding, you know, so I put a little water and I drank all of that. It's supposed to be good. It's just a lemon and water in the blender. Yeah. Damn, like a whole lot. I love lemon. But you would think it would taste like a lot of the rind. It actually didn't because mixed with the juice and all the stuff, it was just good, actually. That sounds actually delicious.

It was not bad. Yeah. My husband. My husband. been when he's there, he will make me a lot of good breakfasts. What's the difference that you see between Germany and here when it comes to eating and health and wellness and diet? I feel like it's very different. Yeah, I mean, a lot of times, I mean, I wish that a lot of the produce would taste more how I remember them tasting, you know, slowly but surely, I feel like the taste of most things are disappearing. But even in Europe, you have to really go to like small towns when it's really from the farmer. Yeah. You know, and then you really like, oh, this is what a peach tastes like, you know,

or, oh, you know, this, I can't taste what that used to taste like, you know. You forget. You sometimes it is that piece of fruit or that vegetable, but it hardly still tastes like what I remember tasting like, you know. What advice do you give your children all the time? I know you're happy. To be happy. Yeah, to be happy and say no to things. If they don't want to do things, you're like, you know, we're in this world where you always want to please everyone and do everything.

And you don't always have to do everything that other. that people want to do. So I tell them that to be happy and be careful and watch yourself and your backs and your surroundings and not be so like, la-lilah, you know, the world has become a different place. So I was just talking to Michael. I was like, I don't know that we can do sleepovers anymore. Like I don't think you can do sleepovers. We have a two-year-old and a four-year-old and I'm just saying in the future. Because you don't know what household they're going into. Yeah, I just don't think I would do sleepovers. And that's so weird because when I was little, I used to sleep over all the time.

Yeah. I don't know that I'll do them. Unless you know the family really well. Like really well. Yeah. It just feels like it's just a different, a different day. Like I remember. You said yours are two and three.

Two and four. But then also when they get older later, they will tell you things, you know. So at that age, they don't. But then when they're older, I think then it's fine again because they would tell you what goes on in other households, you know? How have you managed to stay down to earth in this city? Like it can be hard. You have so much opportunity thrown at you.

What are like your sort of pillars when it comes to staying down to earth and not being in an ego? I mean, maybe I have the ego. I don't even know. Do I? I don't know. Maybe some people would say I have it. I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

They already told me before you walked in. I mean, how do you stay down to earth with everything you have? You just, he's very normal. Approachable. I don't know. You just are. It must be the lemons. I don't know.

It's the eggs. It's the eggs. I don't know. What? I mean, there's always a lot to do, and I have to do it. You know, I don't have like 100 people around me that are doing everything for me, so I have to do a lot of the things. And, you know, having four, you know how it is, you have two kids. Yeah.

I had that, you know, at four. So it's a lot. And, you know, now they're 2019, 18, and 15. So my first three kids, I had one. one after the other, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009. So I had like any kind of binky size, Noonu side. You know, the drinking, you know, has one, two or three holes, diaper sizes.

I mean, I had multiple sizes at all times. We have our kids with us right now. We're in the hotel. And you should, I mean, when Lauren and I go, we can take like a carry-on each. It's just all the stuff that comes. It's insane. Did you travel with your kids when you were working when they were that young?

Yeah. It's hard. So you just would bring everyone with you. Yeah, it was always like a big to-do. Do you love having four kids? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I never planned on that, but when it happened, you know, I was like, yes.

I imagine it's great now as they start to become adults and you can all hang out together. But it was great then too, because I always feel like when I see people who just have won, you know, the kid. So I've noticed and I can't speak for that because I had four and not one. But I always noticed that they're more clingy towards their parents. or, you know, always more on you. I feel like when they have siblings, they entertain each other more. So I always like that too, you know, that it's not always on me, everything. What are we doing now?

So it was like they would always play together. I can't believe you have four kids. You forget. Like, it's so crazy. Like, four kids is a lot of kids. That's a lot. But I also, I didn't know it any other way. I didn't know how it was just to have one, only for a very short time, you know?

And then there was the next one. And then that was the next one. And then I had a three-year break in between. And then Lou arrived, you know, so I don't know it any other way. It was always busy. There's always someone screaming. In the night, there's always someone wants something. So, you know, it's, you get used to it.

There's always, there's always mayhem. Our house looks like a house. It doesn't look like a museum, you know, because I've been too many houses where it's like, can't touch this. Don't sit there. Don't do this. You should come to my house. Oh, you can't sit anywhere.

She's holding on. You can sit. You can sit. I just, everything's white. It's not working. How does that work with kids? It's not. No, my kids are not crazy with like throwing stuff everywhere.

But the dogs are worse. And he's worse. He comes with his black jeans and wants to rub his ass all over the white couch. And I'm like, can you not sit there? Please can you not sit there? I see you. You're like, hello. I have all.

all like white, so that's the problem. I probably need to get to color. Yeah, that's difficult. Yeah, that's difficult. It was a strange design to go for when you have two kids under five. Yeah, well, it's maybe a strange design. What's a white is twiggy? That's difficult. It's difficult. What's a hack that you do that you think is like an amazing hack? Could be beauty, wellness, health, diet, something that you do that you, it's like a clever hack. Mine is like, I'll give you like a weird. Yeah, I tape my mouth shut at night. Every night I tape my mouth shut. I see people who are doing this. really works. Really? Yeah. And because... I feel like I only nasal breathe because my mouth is taped and so it gives me more energy. And then I also feel like it is very anti-aging because it

supports the tongue posture. So you sleep looking up all the time? Yeah, I guess sometimes I lay on my side, but it just, it holds this up so the gravity is not... Well, what it's supposed to do is tongue posture knows, but also like you lose a lot of your water when you breathe out of your mouth at night. So you wake up and you're more dehydrated. Yeah. So I'm not like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, less too hydrated. That's what it's right. It takes me a minute. The mouth taping, I'm telling you, it really works.

I want you to do it. You have a little, I measured last night. You have a little tiny inch. I have the reverse problem. I'm too stressed. What do you mean he has a little inch of what? It's a little millimeter of his mouth open and he needs to close it so he can get nasal reading. I am clenched at night because I'm so stressed out all the time.

That's my thing. Yeah, he gets very stressed. But also where would he tape it? Like, yeah, but he has hair everywhere. I know. Does that work? Maybe he could tape it just in the middle. Just shave the middle off.

No, please. I think you could just try it, though. I really think that this episode is. I make up with the millimeter. I do a little millimeter of the hair and then you won't notice. Yeah, you guys got to try mouth taping. This is a very specific tape that you get. I have my own mouth tape because I'm going to give it to you.

You actually make this? This is yours. Yeah. I may. I already have it for you. Wait a minute, but there's a little slit. Well, I pull the slit over my lips because I like to pull my face up. But also you can, it's meant to just hold your mouth shut at night.

Should I try it? You don't have to put it on. It's going to ruin your makeup. No, no, no, no, no. You don't want to ruin your makeup. Your makeup looks so pretty. So, but, you're breathing still. I pull it over my upper lip.

That's just some people need a training wheel. I thought it was like this way. I saw people do this like this, but no, this is much prettier. This is very smart because then when your husband looks over, you already have a pink mouth. It's cute. It's called, do not disturb, bitch. I need a minute. It's a great.

Is that what it says it on here? Because I can't read. It says this is getting confidential. That's good. It's a very good way to say the door is closed. I don't always need a response. My door is always open. You know what?

My stepmom said the same thing. She said you always rally. Your door is always open. My door's always open. Yeah, she called her stepmom and she said, hey, this guy's really like bugging me. What do I do? And she's like, you rally. You do it.

That's why she's. That's what Heidi just told me. She said her door's always open. Maybe I need to tell you that my door's always... I don't have a migraine. No, that's the message to the women out there. My door is always open for you. That's true.

Yeah, I think that it's a nice way to do that. Cheers to that. What goes in to planning your schedule? I'm obsessed with how people think about time. So I always tell Michael, like, I really want to interview Chris Jenner because I don't want to ask her any gossipy questions. I just want to ask her about how she thinks about time. How do you think about your time?

You obviously run it like a tight ship. There's so many things going on in your life. It's like, I mean, it's very much planned ahead, obviously. Like last year, for example, I booked already our holiday for Christmas. Now I'm booking already for next year's summer. Like you're planning it that far in advance. Yeah. Yeah.

Otherwise, my, otherwise it's not going to be available. And how do you manage shooting in Germany and in the U.S.? You have to just bounce back and forth or is it one is taking place and the other is after? Like when I do casting now, you know, when I see those 100 girls and 100 boys, like now I'm going to go to Germany and I'm going to see them all. And then I bring everyone, I whittle it down to 50. Then the following week, I whittled it down to 25 until I have 25 girls and 25 boys. And then they all come here and then I film it here in L.A.

For the rest for three months, I film it here. So do you have my kids here? Yes. Is it in your calendar? And it's Jennifer. She's right next door. You met her before. So she's telling you where you need to go and where you need to be.

be. Yeah, I mean, we do it together. Yeah, we make the schedule. So we sit together and we work on my, you know, schedule that I have to do. Yeah. So my different shows where I have time in between. Now my son is going to a different school, so I'm going to have to go there. You know, so yeah, I schedule all in. When I go to New York, when I have a fitting for my outfits, you know, for Halloween, for example, so I have to do a fitting for that or, you know, now I'm shooting AGT, then I have a day of fittings for that. So, you know, all has to, when I do my nails, like all of it, you know? It's all in your calendar. Yes. What do you say no to? So I have a specific, you don't not have all the colors. So I have, I'm green and then, you know, my husband is red. And then Lainey is lavender.

And then so everyone has a color. So I can turn them all off if I want to just see mine. If I have everyone on, it's like, it looks crazy. That's smart. It has to be. I don't have your calendar. That's smart. You have, we have one that's like her and I.

We have one that's me. We have one that's the company. But I don't see your calendar. That's cool she can see. Oh, yeah, no. My husband can always see what I'm doing. I can see what he's doing. What, you know, for example, now he was in Cologne with his twin brother.

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you know, we would go here to a hotel or something or... Just to get away. You know, yeah. What workouts are you doing? I like sport du chambre. Do you speak French? What's that? I never heard that one

Chambre is bedroom and sport in the bedroom It's called Sport de Chambre All the guys All the guys are very excited Is it sure your daughter found Your sex closet? Is this a real fact here

That I have on this sheet? How does this happen? And what does one have to do To build a sex closet Because maybe I need some advice On this topic Where you keep all of your things I keep my things

I have an area in my closet Like it's a drawer These things everywhere And like people My daughter picked up my vibrator today and goes, Mommy, what's this? And I said, honey, it's my facial massageer. But a whole closet. But the thing is probably yours looks cute and pink, you know, that's the thing. So it could possibly be a facial massage. Right. It could look like facial massager. So when your

daughter found her sex closet, what do you say? Those are my facial massagers? No, she fully knew what it was. But also, she was with a friend and she filmed it and they were giggling. And I was like, oh my God. And what is the sex closet? Is it organized by moods? No. It's one mood. Is it color-cut? How do you organize a sex closet? It's coordinated by size. Wait, hold on, hold on. For context, just for context.

When you say what size, is this a walk-in closet? Is this a walk-in closet? No, it's like a big closet, but there's outfits in there and things, you know? Where does one? You know, you can have a lot of things. You can have wigs. You can have outfits, shoes, boots. I put on a wig. We did... No, no, no, this was a disaster. We did sexy stranger.

I was a Russian hooker. It was a disaster. I mean, I've had, you know, relationships in the past where they have been sick and I come home being a nurse. And I'm like, how is my patient? And I just got laughed at. And I was like... Yeah, that sounds fun. Do you know what she did?

This is a very, very big red flag right here. She said, let's do sexy stranger. And you come, then you don't laugh. You know? You be sick and you get your pulse checked. I'm feeling a little sick, Lauren. I'm feeling a little... They didn't like you dressed as a nurse.

They laughed. Yeah. No, that's a red flag. You know? Yeah. I bet you with your husband now if you came home dressed as a nurse, he'd be. Yeah. He's very, very sick and he needs everything checked.

Yeah. No, she said she wanted to do sexy stranger. You know this thing where you like you dress up as something and I dress up as something and you meet in a place? Yeah. Who are you? And you like have a whole thing. Yeah.

You know, that a long time. Yeah. But she booked a date at Georgia Baldi. And we were sitting there in outfits between everybody. And all these people we knew. And I was like, this is. What was your outfit? I was like a cowboy with a mustache.

It was like, it was ridiculous. He looked like a worm. Well, because a cowboy, there's not too many cowboys running around here. So it was. But it's like a sexy shirt. It's like, I'm going to pick you up at a bar. It's like we don't know each other. This was like an arranged dinner and like a very nice casual, low-key place.

I love that you guys do that though. That's good. We try to spice it up. Yes. Where does one buy there? Is there a place that we should be buying our sex outfits? I know, but is it like Agent a tour? Like online.

Agent a tour? I mean everywhere. like on the road when I'm traveling. It's most fun when you're traveling. And you see like different, you know, I mean, in Tokyo, for example, there's like, they have so many fun stores there to buy things that you've never seen before. I was like, wow. I was thinking the other day, I need a souvenir from all of these places whenever I travel.

And now what I'm going to do is I'm going to say, Heidi told me to get an outfit from each different place. I've got your next big project for your team. Okay. You're going to go to Tokyo. Yeah. They're going to film a documentary of you going into all these sex stores. And the end, we're going to get a reaction.

The next store, though, she's saying she's getting like an antic outfit, right? That too, but I also go to stores also. People would tune in for that show. Oh, in Tokyo, there's a store that has like four floors up. It's like, it's gigantic. Huh. And I bought gigantic things. And I was just thinking, if anyone stops me in my suitcase and looks up what's in this thing.

Oh, my God. Do they have like different types of vibrators in different countries? Yes. Huh. What's the best country? And not just vibrators, also other sorts of things. Other sorts of things. They're dildos, butt plugs, everything.

Whips. Also for men, a lot of fun things. What's the best country for a dildo? I mean, you can find a good one anywhere. Any country. What a hard-hitting question. Well, I just, I have some ideas in my head that I won't say that the best country for a dildo. Where?

Germany. Michael, I'm going to Germany. You've never taken me to Germany. Guys, this is real journalism. Yes. You know what we're doing? You know what? It's a sprinkle of everything. That's true.

Is your workout really? That's your favorite workout. You don't work out. I mean, I have a treadmill. Most of the time there's stuff on it. I'm like someone who makes piles. So you just naturally look like this. No, I mean, it's like I'm busy also, you know? I mean, one day I have to do a fitting. That to me is like a workout. Like I do literally like, yeah, because I don't just fit one look. I fit like 40 looks.

So while everyone sits and waits until I change and I change, I come back. On off, on off, on off, on off, on off, on off. And you do this for like, I don't know, six hours. That's like a little workout. Yeah, and you're running around on stage all the time. No, I, listen, I told you, we did a commercial for like one day and I was, I had to take a nap for a week. I was done. And by the way, in the commercial, he's fucking sleeping.

He's fucking sleeping with mouth tape on. And that was exactly. In the fucking commercial. Oh, you did the commercial for this. No, it was for chocolate. But he's sleeping the whole time and I'm the talent. My sleeping put that commercial over there. And he was so exhausted.

He was like, oh, today's drained me. I'm like, you were sleeping. No, because the people on the set, which were, they were lovely, amazing people, but they couldn't decide on the blankets. It's exhausting to be fabulous. He's relating his life of him sleeping on a commercial to you traveling to Germany and doing what you do. It's almost like we do the same thing.

It's almost. They put 18 blankets on this bed and I was sweating. It was rough. I mean, I have a treadmill, but I rather like, I walk around. on it more. And I have like, I do have like little five pound little dumbbells on my desk. I have it also, I have it in various places of my house. I know that sounds stupid. But like, I don't, I don't want to be bulky and I also don't want to have injuries. Like a lot of times I will hear people like, oh, my back, I pulled this. I had this was too heavy or their knees hurt or that hurts.

And I think it's like a lot of times they force their body to be too harsh in the gym. Michael gets mad at me because he thinks that I need to, he's confronted me on the show. You literally pulled your back out last week. Yeah, I did. Like I'm turning 52 and not a whole lot of thing is hurting me just yet. No one more but like I believe it's because I haven't overdone all this exercising. What is this song that you released? Tell us about sunglasses at night.

Yeah, I did one with Snoop Dogg and I did one with Tiesto sunglasses at night. When did they come out last year? This year? Last year? What inspired you to do that? My TV show in Germany. Okay. Because it runs for so many weeks, we always have a theme song,

kind of like how a soap has their theme song. You know, when it comes on, you're like, oh, okay, top models coming up. So we always, we've had Brittany, we had Justin Bieber, we've had many different people who had the theme song of the show, like every year changes. And then they were like, why don't you do one this year? And I'm like, heck to the yes. But I don't want to do it by myself. So I called Snoop.

And then I said, I'll have this idea of this song. So he did this song with me. Is he cool? I love him. I mean, I was always obsessed with him. And I've known him for, you know, we've seen each other in many different places. And he said, yes, immediately. It was the cutest, most fun.

And then two years later, which now fast forward was, it came out this year, I asked Tiesto, because I love Tiesto. I love, he's like 53 and he's at the top of his game. It's so cool. Like I love that, you know, that he... And he's been doing it a long time at the top of this game. And I also love the music that he makes. It's so fun.

And I'm always, you know, going to visit him many different places where he's playing. And then I said, I have an idea for a song. And he's like, you make music. And I'm like, no, but let's make it in any case. He's like, okay, what's the idea? And I said, I want to redo sunglasses at night, you know, the song from Corey Hart. And he said, oh my gosh, why didn't I think of that myself? such a good idea. And I'm like, well, let's do it. And then he did this track and I sang on it.

That's cool. Okay, you have to tell us about the Halloween party planning. This is a question that was asked by our audience many times. So your iconic Halloween party, we talked about the costume earlier, but what goes into this party? And what can we expect this year? Well, I always try to think outside of the box. I always try to do a costume that you don't see a lot of people do. I always want to make it different than the year before. And, you know, I wreck my brain about it all the time to come up with something new. I think I came up with something good for this year. I'm going to do a couple's costume with my husband. He is a great sport because I sit 14, 15 hours to put prosthetics on me, you know? Yeah. I know. You're exhausted laying on the couch, like with a tape on your mouth.

But like, I'm telling you, it's like when I was, like the first time I did a couple's costume, My husband was like Fiona and Shrek. And, I mean, the artist made it so amazing that we almost look like, you know, that it's just like a pop-up head. But no, like everything moves, you know, so it's all glued on and you can't take it off. Like it's really, get really claustrophobic in this. Nothing can breeze. And they had to put all this, you know, because Shrek is big. So my husband is not big.

So they had to, I mean, he was boiling in this thing. He was such a good sport. And, yeah, this year we're going to do couples. again is a lot of prosthetic. It's going to be difficult. And is the planning of the party intents? Is the costume or no? The costume is the hardest. Like last year I was a peacock because I didn't want to put so much prosthetics on again

or, you know, to be like this worm or when I was making myself 90-year-old me. That also was a lot of prosthetic. Every skin piece that came out, we had to age, you know, with everything, my neck. Have you ever seen me when I look at this? No, can I see this picture? I don't have a phone. Yeah. I'll pull it up when you're talking.

I didn't see that one. That's one of my favorites. Because I just turned 40 and people were like, okay, you're old now when you're stopping modeling. And I was like, wow, old. I'm going to show them what old looks like. So then that's how I got the idea. So sometimes like something will trigger me like that. And then I became really old.

Yeah. Oh, my God. But that's already 10 years ago because I turned 40 then. And I was like, okay, old old. So is this like actually, did they actually do what they think that you look like when you're like 100? I have a feeling that's not what you're going to look like. I have a feeling, too. I mean...

Just a hunch. If you walked by me, though, I would never be like... I mean, look, my shoulders. They had to put humps on here, my neck, everything. This is so funny. We put stuff in my eyes to make them kind of, you know, when you're older, you get this kind of gray circle around your eyes. My teeth were yellowed.

My nails. I got an old Chanel suit. Like, you know, so I try to really... And this is a worm. Yeah, that's my worm. The worm, a little looks. like it's an interesting thing.

Like what's in my closet, you mean? What country is this from? The worm is, it looks like, did you know that it would come off a little phallic? Yeah,

I mean, a worm could look like that. I mean, but do you see my cute little face in there? I looked like bacon because when I took this off because,

oh my God, I was looking right there. No, no, no, my face is there. And I said to my husband, please if I fall over, don't just leave me on my face down.

I can't, you can't literally have no arms, you can't, like it was difficult. But last year, I was a peacock and I needed to have, so I was the blue of the peacock, and then all my feathers were 15 Cirque de Salle artists. Oh, that's cool. So I had to go to go to Canada twice to meet with everyone and we had to kind of build this thing climbing on top of each other to become this one peacock. These costumes are no joke. Just because I wanted to do something different. I thought it would be cool to do something with multiple people and when we're all huddled together, we become one. Do people try to talk to you when you're in these costumes? Yes. Do you talk normal and back? I mean, sometimes it's hard because there have a beak. I mean,

sometimes it's hard to drink. Yeah, of course I talk back. Sometimes I have to yell. I mean, I've been an apple because I was pregnant and I was not going to not come to my Halloween party. I was nine months pregnant. I think probably I gave birth the next week or something like that. and I was married to Seal and he was Eve and I was in Apple with a snake around but those were like the olden days

I still did my own hair and makeup so it's not as fabulous as you know the real artists do now and that was difficult I couldn't fit in a car we didn't think of that so I had to get a convertible in order to even get

to the venue because I couldn't fit through the door of the car it was like I'm just picturing you like standing in the car corner a cocktail party in the worm costume with like a beer. Yeah. No, I couldn't hold anything because I have no arms.

Yeah. So someone had to give me something with a straw. Yeah. A worm sucking out of a straw. Heidi, Clum, you have lived a wildly interesting light. Thank you for coming on our show. Open invite to come back anytime. Where can everyone find you?

I'm sure they already follow you. But pimp yourself out. Where they can find me? Yeah, like Instagram. Your home address, social security. No. Your Instagram, your Twitter, your website. Yeah, I have all of that.

Everything. Yeah, no, I don't have a website. I'm just on Instagram and Twitter. I'm pretty sure they know how to look her up, learn. Go look up her costumes, though. If the audience doesn't know at this point, I don't know what to say. If you guys have not seen all these costumes, you have to go look them up. They're wild.

Thank you so much for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. And thanks for my gift.