The Bossticks - How To Create a Non-Toxic Home, Use Clean Swaps & Protect Your Family From Hidden Chemical Exposure Ft. Branch Basics Co-Founder Allison Evans

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

#867: Join Lauryn Bosstick as she sits down with Allison Evans – Co-founder of Branch Basics, a wellness lifestyle brand that creates non-toxic cleaning products using the highest standards of safety. After overcoming her own personal healing journey, Allison has become a trusted resource for others looking to build a non-toxic lifestyle. In this episode, Allison gets real about newborn care basics, tips for a non-toxic nursery & home, the importance of reducing chemical exposure, & shares safer alternatives for your home!    To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Branch Basics click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Shop The Show! Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   Visit https://branchbasics.com/SKINNY15 and use code SKINNY15 for 15% off.    This episode is sponsored by Just Thrive Visit https://justthrivehealth.com/discount/TSC and use code TSC for 20% off.    This episode is sponsored by Taylor Farms  To learn more visit http://taylorfarms.com.   This episode is sponsored by Squarespace Head to https://www.squarespace.com/SKINNY to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code SKINNY.   This episode is sponsored by Cymbiotika Go to http://Cymbiotika.com/TSC today to get 20% off plus free shipping.   This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics Shop Branch Basics in 600+ Target stores nationwide, or Target.com. You can also code SKINNY15 to get 15% off at https://branchbasics.com/SKINNY15.   This episode is sponsored by Levity Get $50 off your first Levity order with code TSC50 at http://joinlevity.com.   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential For a better choice and peace of mind in your home, shop The Skinny Confidential Non-Toxic Toilet Paper at https://shopskinnyconfidential.com/products/toilet-paper.    Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

You guys know how passionate I am about non-toxic living and cleaning products. And even like the past. paint and toxic chemicals. I've really gotten into that. My thing is like I don't want to be perfect. I just want to have the information so I can make an educated decision. And so on this episode, I decided to invite Alison Evans. She's been on the show before she co-founded Branch Basics. It's a wellness lifestyle brand that creates non-toxic cleaning products to the show. And I wanted to pick her brain on all things birth, baby, and beyond. And in this episode, she, gives you all the tips, all the tricks to pregnancy, to things that could be toxic in the nursery,

to even like strollers and car seats. She tells us all these different tips. I had my notebook out. It's one of those episodes that like you can take what you like and leave what you don't. You don't have to take every tip and feel overwhelmed. Just take the ones that are meaningful and impactful to you. On that note, let's welcome Alison Evans, the co-founder of Branch Basics, to The Him and Her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. The reason that I kicked Michael off this episode is because I want to go so granular. I want people to be able to pull out their notebook and really seriously build a non-toxic

life from scratch, especially if they're in their motherhood era. We would have scared him off anyway. Yeah, I don't think he can handle how intense. Like, we're going to the moon. Oh, for sure. Okay. vaginal juices will be mentioned. Vaginal juices better be on my baby for two weeks.

Or three. Or three. Just leave it on. Do they even need a bath? Absolutely. Unless they're using branch basics, week three. Week three. But do they really need a bath?

How many baths do you do? Honestly, I never really did it. Yeah. My mother-in-law, I think, was really grossed out. But then it's funny because the vernic's ends up just absorbing anyway, so then you can trick people like the mother-in-laws and the moms into thinking they had a bath, but really it all just got absorbed

and helped their microbiome. You know, if someone's listening and you don't know what the fuck we're talking about, we're talking about delayed bath, bathing, delayed bathing. It's where you don't bathe the baby and you just leave all the goodness. And I heard, and you could speak on this more eloquently,

if you get a C-section, what do you do? You should probably go into the mom's vaginal canal and get all the juice and then rub it over the baby. And this is not like some hippie thing that I learned. Oh, TikTok's going to have a feel day. Don't worry. I can quote studies. No, but really, it's amazing.

It's called seeding. Isn't it vaginal seating? Do you yourself go up your vagina and get the juice? I have homebirths. And so the juice is just there in the process naturally. Yeah, but if you have a C-section, would one go up their own vagina? Oh, oh, I thought you were talking about me personally. The doctors, I'm sure, do it.

But, I mean, vaginal seating really is a thing because they found that the children were born, born from C-sections, their gut was like decimated, right? Because you get all of that yummy stuff as you're coming out of the vaginal canal. But I think, too, the conversation is, because I talked to one of my girlfriends who had a C-section, she said, I felt guilt around it because they didn't get the, you know, the good bacteria. I don't think you have to feel guilt around it. Not at all. If there's a will, there's a way. If you can't get through the window and the door, come down the chimney and pull it up your stuff. But also, if you've had a C-section baby, and they're two or three, four months old, or even older, you can give them bifidobacteria.

I mean, there's probiotics. There's tests, like tiny health is an infant gut test. You can swab their poop and send it in, and it will show you exactly what bacteria they're lacking, especially the bifidos are super important. You want to have a low diversity of bacteria in the first six months, but you can seed with specific strains, and you just kind of sprinkle the probiotic into a bottle or on your nipple before the baby latches. And so there's things you can do. So C-section people, don't be scared.

Welcome to the show. Yeah. Third time, you're back. It's a charm. Your first episode I referenced to all the time when I tell brands how to work with creators because you came on and told your story about non-toxic living. The episode crushed it. Then you came back with your aunt, who is your partner in Branch Basics, that crushed it.

And this one I'm doing selfishly, sorry, guys, because I want to. all the secrets to a non-toxic nursery and just babyland. It's hard to navigate. It's overwhelming. It really is. It's hard. You don't know where to start. And I also don't want to be psychotic. Exactly. That's exactly right. And it's confusing because you see organic or Greenguard Gold certified or Thalate-free. And it's like, what do I actually need to pay attention to? What can I actually believe? And just because it doesn't have one thing, does that mean that it's safe, you know? And as you know, as you know, know, there's 85,000 chemicals people can choose from and less than 1% are tested for safety.

And I would say when it comes to those everyday items for your baby, it's so important to try to get it right if you can. I say it's, for me, it's 85-15-ish. Yeah. I had flaming hot Cheetos the other day. And I understand that. But that's also you in a diet. Like, I feel like it's so much easier to choose safer baby products because we're not talking

about getting in between us and our flaming hot Cheetos, right? we're talking about, do I use this diaper or that diaper? Like, you don't have strong opinions about that. Like, let's go ahead and just do the things that we can do the best. The things that stress us out and freak us out, don't start there, you know? Why I'm a bit frustrated is that the fact that there's even toxic products on the market marketed towards babies is ridiculous. When there doesn't need to be, you know, that's the sad part is that so just as soon as you find one wipe or car seat or crib mattress that's toxic, you find that you can reach the same safety standards and flammability

standards and not add those ingredients. So people need to be educated, which is why I'm so glad you're having me here. And I think the more, it's the power of the purse, the more that we can choose the safer products. For instance, when my eight-year-old was born, I was choosing a car seat. and I had the greatest gift of my aunt to be able to help me navigate through all of these things. So I knew these things going into this. My mom didn't. Most women don't have this information. But there were only two car seats on the entire market that did not spray for toxic flame retardants that are known to lower IQ.

They're carcinogenic. They caused endocrine issues. I mean, I could go on and on. So there were two, right? What job? Now, I want to say it was up a baby, Mesa, and Henry or something, but now there's dozens. And so what I want to say is why are the other car seat companies choosing to continue to meet

those flammability standards with the use of synthetic flame retardants when they can be using wool, when they can actually achieve the same rating by weaving the polyester in a better way? So my point is we don't have to make these toxic choices. We just need to be educated. And I'm not talking more expensive either. I'm literally talking choose A and not B, you know? I think they're doing it. This is my own theory. Because I think they place an order in China for 150,000 units. Yeah. And they get the units to America and their 3PL. Yeah. And then they have to sell through the 150,000 units before they can change anything. Yeah. So my theory is a lot of... There's your business brain. Hello. I can't help it. Sorry. I'm like, what is. What is going on? Are they all right? I also tell you what it is. It's convenience culture. Okay. So let's take. Like, people know my friends, my best friends all know that I have this thing against, I'm not going to ever name names, but against the car seat that turns into a stroller.

Okay. And the reason that we have an epidemic of this product is because it is the most convenient thing ever. The baby falls asleep in the back of a car and you don't want to wake the child. And so you pop the wheels out and you can stroll them into a restaurant or church or wherever you're going. Right. But anytime you go anywhere, you see all these car seat strollers, right? there's not one on the market that actually is meeting the flammability requirement without the use of a toxic flame retardant spray. And so when we've emailed them, which is what we do at Branch Basics, we don't just take the website word for it. We will email the manufacturer. We have a whole sample letter you can send to a manufacturer and ask about the materials used. And they say, yes, we use a synthetic flame retardant. And it is proprietary information. And I think the reason these are still selling in the truckload is because moms don't have this information. And they say, yes, we use a synthetic flame retardant. And it is because moms don't have this information. information and we want convenience. We're overwhelmed. We're stressed, you know. And so I think it's more just

about understanding that there are alternatives. And I'm hoping one day the car seat turned stroller industry will step it up. Here's the interesting thing. So the car seat turn strollers are actually not allowed across the Canadian border because they don't meet safety ratings. So the car crash standards alone are not great. So if you have a car seat stroller, it has toxic chemicals such as what? such as chlorinated, brominated, fluorinated, phosphorus-based flame retardants? I don't know. We've emailed them and they say it's proprietary, so I'm not sure. But all I know is that you can achieve the flammability, fire safety rating without the use of any type of synthetic spray. You can use wool. You can use a certain weave of polyester. You can use bamboo. I mean, there's tons of ways to reach it. So there's just no reason why these companies should not step up and do the best for our babies. If you think about these infants, they're in their lungs. are not developed yet. And the thing about fire, flame retardants, I would say that's the number one thing you should avoid when it comes to baby products. They are ingested by, you know, a baby touching and putting their hands in their mouth. They are inhaled and they are absorbed. So there's

three avenues of, you know, acquiring and accumulating these toxins, like I said, that are lowering IQ and related to cancer. There was a scientist Arlene Bloom in the 1970s. And she was the first one to kind of come out with all of these studies about flame retardants and it was all about having them on children's pajamas, right? And so a lot of the flame retardants had been phased out of pajamas and furniture, however, they're still allowed in a lot of the baby products we have today. Which pajamas are they in still today? You know, if you have 100% cotton or linen pajamas, you can pretty much be sure that your pajamas are clean. I mean, ideally you would want organic. They're actually so easy to find these days. I mean, Target and Hertzkeys.

They want the nightgown with the character on it. I know. It's so hard. That's hard. Well, you're talking about like Zaza's age. It's tough. Yeah. She wants the, but it's okay.

I tell my kids, listen, y'all can wear this kind of stuff sometimes during the day. I understand. But when it comes to sleep, like I'm pretty protective over what they're wearing and those marshmallow, what are they called? Mashmallow things. Smosh. People are going to laugh at me. Smoshmallows.

Listen to me. I have three girls. I don't even know the name. And I'm like, let's just not breathe a deeply. into all of these stuffed animals all night long, you know? Yeah, there's the smush mel. Once you remove the toxins in your house and you have the smush melons or whatever they're called, you're like, damn, those smell like a fucking car freshener in a new world.

Oh, the fragrance ones. Man, this are bad. Yeah. What's the brand of car seat that you would recommend if you were to pick one? Yeah. So I love Nuna because they are the only line that is completely free of flame retardants and Phafos, which are forever chemicals. So I applaud them in all of their colors and those are great.

Chico, as in like the more economical line is actually now coming out with flame retardant free. I mean, there's so many great ones now. Maxi Cozy. I think that's a good place to start. We'll link it in the show notes. Yeah. So, oh, I wanted to say really quick. So we actually developed a registry that has all of this information.

And we did a landing page just for your follower. So we did branchbasics.com backslash skinny 20. and it will have all of the different references that we're making here. Amazing. Just to make it easy. Blankets. I mean, to me, that's so easy because there's so many amazing companies out there now. I mean, 100% organic cotton blankets from Koyuchi, pure baby and child.

I believe you're using their mattress. My friend has Pure Baby and Child. It's the best mattress on the market. That's the mattress I got because I ran into your friend in Italy. Italy. And she told me all about your mattresses. So good. They're the best.

The mattress is amazing. I just got it in the mail. Yeah. It seems really comfortable. So it's the most breathable mattress on the market because it's made from the fibers of coconut husks. And so it's super breathable. Like when you think about babies, just breathing deeply into these mattresses. Can I take a moment about baby mattresses? Go for a second. Let it rip. So the mattresses and the car seats are like my two soapboxes about baby gear. Because if you think about this, those babies are sleeping up to 20 hours a day. They are processing. information. They're growing at this rapid rate, and we have them on these mattresses all the time. So CNN just recently reported these two studies where they found in 25 babies' bedrooms between the age of three and four months, the most toxic air in the bedroom came from all around the mattress. So, which is crazy, right? And it turns out these are all conventional mattresses sold in the United States at most, you know, large retail stores. And they ended up finding

that these flame retardants that they say, like the mattress would say that they are free of, you know, X, Y, and Z, and they would still find these now banned flame retardants in the mattresses. And so when you have a baby breathing deeply into this mattress, and, you know, I know it can be a controversial subject, and there definitely needs to be more research done on this, but SIDS, sudden infant death syndrome, has been connected to the combination of the flame retardants that are sprayed on these mattresses plus a common toxic fungus that can grow embedding in mattresses, and it can actually inhibit the central nervous system and breathing and heart is all undermined. So not making any huge claims here, but it's just something to consider. I would say, you know, and people say,

oh my gosh, the mattresses are so expensive. I would say put everything second. If you're going to splurge on anything, like people will come together, family and friends, get everyone to pitch in to buy a truly clean mattress. Maybe we have a code for pure mattress. I should ask her. We should get one. Yeah, Pure Baby and Child.com has an incredible mattress. And it's, listen, I have four kids.

I've used the same mattress for all of them for eight years. And that's the mattress that you've used. Yeah. Yeah. What about sheets and bedding? Again, that's so easy. They're everywhere. I mean, everything from Target, A-U-B-A-B-Y, Pure Baby and Child also makes sheets

and bedding. That's one of those things. B-s, you could probably find under $15 on Amazon. You can get some organic sheets from Bert's B's. you know, one of those companies. Okay, so what if you want to co-sleep? I feel like you're the co-sleeping queen. Tell us about that. Yeah. Co-sleeping is one of those things that I stumbled upon. I didn't even know the name for it when I started doing it because I was literally in survival mode. I had my first baby. This was before Instagram and Facebook and all the things. Well, it was, I guess, in the heart of

Facebook. But it was before I was seeking out information through Instagram or AI or anything like that. So I'm just doing my thing. And I'm using my intuition. Like my aunt told you. me to, but I am getting up every hour or two and going over to the bassinet across my room because I always knew I was going to have the baby in my room. And I was so exhausted, Lauren. I mean, one day I had her in the rocker and I was about to fall asleep. So the AAP says that they recommend keeping the baby in the room for the first six months. It highly reduces the risk of SIDS, right? But they do not recommend co-sleeping. So if you really think about all these parents that are doing the best by their babies and trying to follow the rules and they're so damn tired

in this rocker, it's more dangerous than actually co-sleeping in a safe way, right? So co-sleeping for me was not only was it, did it help me survive and really thrive during those newborn days, but honestly, it was the sweetest time. Like, I would wake up at two and three in the morning and just smelling that little newborn head and being so close and skin to skin. You know, there's a reason why all of our ancestors slept with their babies. I mean, first of all, they didn't have halls and caves, right? You know, it's just so funny, we put our babies down the But like, this is a pretty new concept, you know? I mean, having our baby snuggle up next to us, science actually shows that our heart rates will sink with one another. So that's a protective

mechanism against breathing issues for the baby. And for a mom like me who had a low milk supply, like it was absolutely necessary for me to keep my supply to have my baby nursing me kind of throughout the night. And so if you have a flat surface, we of course had an organic mattress to me that's like key in this. We weren't using any sort of fragrances or toxic laundry detergent, of course. No pillows, no, you know, blankets that could inhibit the baby or breathing or anything like that. You have no blanket around you? So I had it on the bottom part of my body. And then a lot of times I would almost tuck the blanket like, so here's what we did. Let me try to describe this like with words. For me, I found that the sideline nursing position was best. So baby and I would both be on our

sides and I would almost have my upper arm around the baby's like bottom if that makes sense and then my upper my lower arm would come across the back of their head and backs. I almost kind of created this like cradle fence for my baby. Okay, but here's the problem. I only will lay on my left side. That's okay. Because you know how your gut drains? Do you know what I'm talking about?

Or do you think this is crazy? Well, I think. Like your gut drain. Oh, so you won't. You're doing it for a health purpose. you want to only lay everyone in the world on their left side. You should never lay on the right. So I hear that and I agree with that.

But I would think in those newborn days, you may have to like side switch just to keep up your supply because you're going to be breastfeeding, correct? I'm going to try. I'm going to try to breastfeed. You're going to see. No, I mean, I think I'm going to breastfeed.

I've breastfed my last two. I'm going to breastfeed. But I'm not like one of those people that's like, I'm doing it for two years. Breastfeed or die. No, I'm not like, I'm not going to kill myself. But to establish that supply or really just for sleep, Listen, Kelly, my co-founder, she co-sleeps, and I felt like she did it in a different way.

A lot of people don't do the sideline thing. They sleep on their back or they sleep on their belly and their baby is just right next to them. I just found that letting the baby kind of nurse themselves to sleep in the first few months was the way that I could keep supplying what he or she needed. Quick break to talk about Just Thrive, one of our favorite partners, one of our favorite companies. Is that cookie calling your name at 3 p.m.? The midnight fridge, the extra slice of pizza you swore you wouldn't eat? If you feel like your cravings control you, it's not just willpower.

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I have seven kids. No way. She said this thing in the book, and I am no breastfeeding experts, but I have to ask you this. She said the way she kept her supply up for seven babies because she was nursing two at once was she would pump every 30 minutes or feed for three minutes. And she said the trick to getting all this milk, she had so much milk, she said. Wow. Was that instead of like pumping every two hours or like waiting, she would do it every 30 minutes, which is like so much, but only three minutes.

Okay, that is unreal. I'm also so impressed because she has all these other babies running around her house and needing her or needing a ride somewhere and she must be glued to that darned. That is commitment? That's amazing. Well, it's only three minutes, though. That's true. But I mean, cleaning the parts and all the, to me, that's the hard part. Do you clean the parts?

I mean, let's be honest. Is everyone really fucking cleaning the part? I stick them in the fridge for sometimes up to six or seven days and then I'll like boil. them. Yeah, I mean, how often are we really? This is like when people say they clean their makeup brush. No, no, that is different. But we are talking raw milk here, so we have to handle it with a little more care. Okay. So, but I think she would just like, no, that's amazing. I may actually try that because my, listen, my left boob barely produces anything. My babies have all survived off of my right one. So I may, my left one may need this. She says this is the trick to breastfeeding.

She said every 30 minutes pump for only three minutes. Okay. And it trains your body to make a ton of milk. See, and I went through the, I'm kind of doing the power pumping thing right now. I actually did it while I was having some water right before the show on my little balcony. But I'll do 10, no, sorry, 20 minutes, stop for 10, on for 10, stop for 10, on for 10. But that's only if I'm actually in a place for an hour, like before bed or, you know. It's so much work. I know.

It's a lot of work. The pumping. Honestly, with my first two, I didn't pump. So my second one never took a bottle. So I never even thought to pump. Didn't own a pump. Does pumping change your boobs? In terms of what?

Like the way that they look or the way they produce? No. No. I don't think so. I mean, well, your nipples look absolutely crazy going through that thing. I mean, it feels very unnatural to me. Sometimes I look down and I'm like, this is unreal that this is happening. But maybe instead of pumping every 30 minutes, you could just nurse for three minutes.

Can you do that? So to me, that's the thing. It is so much easier to grab my baby and to latch them on me because you, don't have to clean a darn thing. The milk is already the temperature they need. You don't have to store it or deal with any of that stuff. You know, I mean, having my baby with me, even traveling, sometimes I'm like, honestly, it's easier to just take the baby than to have to pump and store and fly with this milk. Also then, I'm like, you're taking your breast milk and you're putting it in those plastic holders. Yeah. Can someone invent something else? I know. Actually, okay,

I heard that someone had, but not, I don't know about when it actually does. I don't know about when it actually drops down into the plastic. I only have plastic for those, but then they're immediately, you can transfer to these stainless steel called Sarah C-E-R-E-S-S-S-S-R-Chill. It's like this brand that's come out with this great way to manage breast milk as you're traveling. So anyway, I just got it and I'll have to use it for my next trip because I had a little cry over spilt milk in my stasher bag on my last vacation. I would cry if you've spilt milk. It was a lot. It's devastating. It was a lot. What's the brand of diapers and wipes?

The Allison Approve. Yeah. So kudos. Diapers, which I don't feel like as many people have heard of. They're sold at Target. They are the only diaper where, you know, the band that goes around the baby's leg, that's kind of the ruffle that you have to bring. Once you put the diaper on, the leg has that little like ruffle part that keeps the poop and stuff in. So they're the only brand that makes 100% cotton ruffle part, which is actually important because it's touching the baby's leg.

And all day long. All day long. So I, coterie is also great too, but I will say kudos is probably the cleanest disposable diaper. Okay. I use coterie wipes and diapers, but I just ran into my friend Cora, who's married to Tara, who owns 4Sigmatic. Yes. And he started a diaper line that, this is so cool. And I might be flubbing this.

Okay. The diaper, when the baby pees in it, you throw it away. And then when it goes to like the garbage place, what do you call it where the garbage place is dropped? Yeah, the dump. The dump? It grows into mushrooms. Okay, is it hero diaper? Yes, I think so.

Okay, yeah, I just tried them. You can basically plant the diaper and like build a garden. It's amazing. You can build the type. But here's what he said, which was crazy. He says the blue line is what's the most toxic thing. Interesting. So he has no blue line.

Oh, so we don't really need a blue line. We don't need a blue line. I don't know. I've never really understood that. I'm honestly like, can't you smell and if not, can't you feel? Were that like, I feel like we just, come on. Come on. You know when your baby needs a diaper change.

If Towns piece twice in the diaper, he pees twice. I don't need a blue one. More than that. Yeah, you know what I mean? We're all just hanging on by a thread. A thousand percent. As long as it doesn't leak out, I'm like, you can do it every you want in there. Yeah.

I don't need a blue line. So I thought that was really genius. Interesting. It grows into mushrooms. And then he harvests them and sells them. them or? No, the mushrooms, it just grow, it's like biodegradable. That is unreal. I mean, it'd be cool if it grew into magic mushrooms, but oh, wow, yeah, that's cool. So that you could be like a more mellow mom as you're changing diapers. Full cycle diapers. So kudos wipes or coterie. Oh, wait, no,

the wipes, the wipes conversation is very different. You were talking diapers, right? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Great. Let it rip. You're sitting down. What's wrong with the wipes? Everything. There's honestly, here's the deal with wipes. Wipes are a breeding ground. for microbes because you're introducing water, high water content to a highly absorbable surface. And so there will be mold and mildew and all the nasties unless you use a strong preservative. So therefore, every single wipe has to have a certain preservation in the formula. And that preservative is too toxic to touch a baby. So I know that so many people listening are like, you've officially lost me.

This is so extreme. But guys, I have not used a baby wipe. I mean, I don't use baby wipes. I mean, I will use them on the go. What are you using? Okay, so I use dry wipes and right next to my dry wipes, whether it's in my purse or at home, I have a spray bottle with water and I literally wet the wipe and then... Look at that. It sounds like water wipes.

It sounds like water wipes, but it's not. But water. What's so crazy is that those last ingredients, guys, and this is where I'm going to bring out my nerdy, toxic brain. But the science of epigenetics shows that a... small amount of a toxic chemical can turn on and off genetic expression. So if you think about daily use items, those darn wipes are touching our baby in the most absorbable area of their body, right? Highly absorbable multiple times a day. Okay. So when we think about diaper rash, we think about eczema, and then we think about future things. We think about organ accumulation.

We think about autoimmune. We think about allergies and autism and all these things can be connected to these small little ingredients that are in microdoses that add up over time. So I say if you're going to do just a handful of things, making sure your mattress is clean and those daily use items like your car seat and your wipes, I think, are really key. So honest company sells 100% organic, disposable dry wipes. I buy them on Amazon. It is the easiest thing. It's one of those things. Once you get into the habit, you realize you really don't need to have a wet wipe. I mean, yes, you can throw them in your bag like on the run. And I will say, healthy baby, I think makes the best wet wipes because they use sodium benzoate, which is a preservative. We don't love it, but it's

probably one of the better ones. So kudos diapers and then healthy baby wipes. But there's not, there really aren't great wipes on the market. I went and got my blood tested and it came back higher than anyone he's ever seen for triclosin. And I could not figure out, I might have checked few. It was the wipes. It was wipes. And you know what's fucked? Is that. And you know what's fucked? Is that ingredient is not on the package. You have to dig deep. And something that's a very popular white brand that's supposed to be one ingredient. It's not one ingredient. Because sometimes it's such a small amount that it doesn't, it's not on there. But they're talking about that one white. Think about how many times a day we're introduced to that one thing. And it's by the butthole.

It's by the, it's by the intimate area that it's on your hands. I even like, like I was giving my kids the wipes to wipe their face after they ate. So I did that at the farmer's market. a couple days ago. I felt bad because there was a mom there with me and my three-year-old obviously had stuff all over her face. And so she was just being a friend and I wasn't going to be like, oh, no, no, no, no. But she wiped Eleanor's mouth all over with this wipe. Okay, so we get in the car, I wasn't thinking much of it. And I look in the room mirror. She's sitting in her car seat behind me. Her entire mouth is bright red. Her body just was not used to being introduced to those things. And my kids have pretty resilient skin, like they're olive. They're not, like, they're not

sensitive skin kids. I could not believe it. I took pictures because I was like, Like one day I'm going to have to show my audience that this is what wipes can do. And it was the same wipes you're talking about, by the way, because I know what you're talking about. It's so intense because you don't, like I said, want to be psychotic. Exactly. But at the same time, if it's a daily habit that they're doing all day long. Yeah. It's the daily things.

It's, I just don't get why there's no brand integrity. Is that crazy? No. Honestly, I will say the wipes. The car seat thing is it's a whole, it's a whole soapbox for me, as you can tell, and the mattress. But with the wipes, we have tried to create a wipe, right, with branch basics. And we cannot meet the standard of preservation that is needed to keep the wipes safe more than four or five days without growing mold. So I understand why these manufacturers are having to add these ingredients.

I do get it. That's a bummer. I love a branch basics wipe. Well, I got you a little gift bag of some stuff. I'm going to try the dry wipes from honest with the spray ball. I've set you up. I've set you up with the whole system so Michael can't bog. Well, I'm going to get the heated wipe warmer and put the dry wipes in there.

Yes. It's so easy to make that. So at home, it's super easy because you just put it next to the baby changing area and you get the OXO to the OXO brand and you can put a bunch of dry, a hundred percent organic cotton wipes. Let's see. There's another brand that makes them off of Amazon. Oh, I'm blank. Whoopsie. W-H-O-O-P-S-I-E-S. Whoopsies and honest company make dry wipes. You fill the little O-X-O, you know, a wipe dispenser or whatever heated one you want with a little bit of water at the bottom and they'll last for a while without that toxic preservative. It's just like a water wipe. It's just like it. Uh-huh. Genius. I mean, without triclosin. Yeah. It's honestly wild. Yeah. I only use branch basics in my house for cleaning supplies. Sometimes I use Molly Suds like for certain things. Molly Suds is great. It feels like it's very clean like branch basics. But branch basics. But branch Bacis is like everywhere. And I'm really proud that we just switched the entire office cleaning supplies

to branch basics. Carson, don't know if you knew that. I'm looking out for your well-being. For his future babies. Why is it so important for a mother to consider the cleaning supplies? Yeah. Let this one rip because people, there's still pushback about switching cleaning supplies. And it's such an easy switch. And my house, it's not more dirty. It's not more dirty. Yeah. Well, I always love to go with this kind of extreme story. So Kelly, my best friend and co-founder, her husband was on the, he's a doctor and he was on the COVID team. And he is in a home where they don't use one sanitizer or one disinfectant. And never did he come home and say that's what we should be doing. I mean, he is a doctor and he was exposed in the depths of the COVID situation. Their family never got sick. I mean, that's the thing. My kids are rarely sick. And when they're sick, they're sick for one or two days max. And we have not used bleach. We have not used bleach. We have not used. used a chemical-based pesticide-based disinfectant ever. I mean, my kids have never been around one, really, unless, you know, they're at school or something.

So the reason that this is so important is because our cleaning products contain carcinogens, asthmogens, obesogens, like actually proven to be connected to causing obesity, childhood obesity because of the way that they're disrupting our hormones. synthetic fragrances. I mean, the allergens alone and the way that they're connected to eczema, the fact that we use them, but yet we don't need them is what boggles my mind. Like, we do not need to have these toxic cleaners in order to effectively clean and remove germs. And in fact, what's happening when we bring in these disinfectants is we're actually decimating our gut microbiome. So there was a study done on 757 babies between the ages of four and six,

months. And then they've tracked the babies. It was a long-term study again at age one and at age three. They found that the babies that were growing up in homes that used disinfectants on a daily basis had the least amount of friendly bacteria in the gut and the highest amount of unfriendly bacteria in their gut, which is directly the same pattern as one with like eczema or obesity. Branch basics works just as good. And it just, it works. And you don't have to have that fragrance. And if you think about guys, like the way that our babies are breathing deeply into those sheets and clothes, I mean, even when someone comes and visits my baby and they have perfume on, you know, I'm just kind of cringing or I'll really nicely ask if they'll put a burp cloth. I'll say,

oh, sometimes the baby spits up if you don't mind putting a burp cloth on, because I can smell when they hand the baby back and just the perfumes and all the things coming from their dryer sheets and all the things that they're using on their laundry. I even think, like, if you have a nanny or someone who's helping you or even like your mom if you like sometimes I'll just say hey here's Molly Suds do you guys mind watching your clothes yes because if the baby's going to be breathing it in your baby's caretaker you should advocate for your baby they cannot speak up you know this is the time like our babies are born pre-polluted there was a study done by the eWG 20 years ago so think about how many more toxins we've introduced since then where babies were

born and we used to think that these chemicals did not past the blood brain barrier, right? We thought that the placenta was this protective barrier around the baby, but they were born with 287 chemicals tested in the umbilical core blood. A hundred and eighty of them are carcinogens. Okay. That's just before they were born. So if we as moms, as parents, have information, you know, it's one thing to have the information and to decide, listen, you know, I get it, but I'm choosing this. But what makes me sad is when we don't have the information and all of a sudden, our children are having to pay for that. I did. My mom only, wishes that she had an Aunt Merrily to tell her the things that I am talking about now because I had Siss, thousands of cysts covering my ovaries by the time I was a teenager. I had chronic inflammation. I was on hydrocodone and antidepressants and painkillers and muscle relaxers all through college because of crazy inflammation and pain. And when Marely woke me up to this lifestyle when I was 22 years old, guess how long it took me to reverse pretty much all of those things I listed? Ten months. So like our bodies want to do.

heal. We are so resilient in our babies. If you're listening right now and you're thinking, oh my gosh, I've screwed up my baby. They're already three or they're already eight. Like, I was 22. You know, so there's so many things that we can start doing today. And once we remove these chemicals, our bodies will run in the direction of healing and we will detoxify and overcome symptoms. This is why I'm such a Louise Hay fan because in her meditation, she always says, like, let the past go. Like, if you, it's, if you've already, If you've made mistakes like we all have with whatever it is and you're hearing this and you're overwhelmed, let it go. Just let it go.

No shame. No guilt. The last thing I, when y'all asked me to come on, I thought this is a really sensitive topic, you know? And the last thing I want to do is make a mom feel like they have made the wrong decision for her child. And we're all refining. Yes. My gravestone is going to say edit and refine. Like I'm editing and refining all the time.

You can edit and refine your friend group? Carson, can you edit that? Is that going to be your quote on your... You can edit and refine. It's like no one's perfect. We're all just doing our best. But if it is a daily habit, and it's the same price... Exactly.

You know what's annoying? The dry cleaner. Because what do you do? You have a nice shirt. You spend a lot of money on it. It's a silk moment. I just got my daughter a silk nightgown. Yeah.

What do you do? Is there any other things to do? Okay. So I will say there are... Certain types of silk that actually do really well in the laundry. Are you sure you have to dry clean her silk nightgown? It doesn't look the same, Allison. I'm sorry. Okay.

I really wish I could say it does. Okay. Well, so there are dry cleaners that... Where? Where? Well, Houston has an eco clean. So what we do... I feel like that's like, look over here.

It's like, we're green, but like... So you asked him not to do the final spray, but in the end, I would not let my child sleep in something that's been dry clean. I mean, I just wouldn't. I think there's... My children have a few silk items and we just put them in the wash. And you're right. Lunya, L-U-N-Y-A has that beautiful brand.

And they actually tell you to wash them. No final spray, though, if you have to. Yes, no starch or finishes or fragrances. I always say that when I go. And then take them out of the bag immediately. Don't let them suffocate in their own filth, right? And put them in the sun. Because the sun, honestly, is the best detoxifier.

So I always have Will's, like, beautiful shirts, like, out, you know, on the balcony. See, I knew you would have a tip for that. that. That's a random one. I want to talk about this is not really to do with baby, but it's something that I'm struggling with the hair gel. We still haven't figured this out for him. We got, okay, we got the volcano. I told you what's what Will uses. The volcanic paste, which we'll link in the show notes, you guys, for Towns. So Towns my son, when he does his hair, he uses the Volcano paste. Michael is not cutting it for Michael. He's still so on to this hair gel. Yeah. Can we need some No, I mean, I feel like my husband has used a few brands, and I feel like the volcano,

and then there's one more that I felt like I sent you a picture of over text, and I'm forgetting what it is right now. But it's in a black container. Was that the volcano one? I think it's a volcano one. I don't know. Michael has a lot of hair. We need to formulate just specifically for him.

Which is why it's a problem, though, because it's a whole to do. It's a whole thing. And then he tries to get in the bed with us. But is it fragrant? I can smell. Right now, I can smell. You can smell it in your mind's eye. I'm like a blood hound.

I can smell from a mile away. And he tries to get in the bed on my brand new silk pillowcase that's fresh and lay his head down. And then like the kid. Well, he at least needs to shower. If it's fragrant, he needs to get that off before he gets in the bed. That's the rule. Yeah. But then he's just going to get mad about your spray tan.

So you can only go so far. This is all constantly. It's the hair gel versus the spray tan. The spray tan is really slim pickens. It really is. There's one. Oh, my gosh. What is the name?

name salt air or salt something that's, but it's not like a person that comes to the house. It's like you DIY and it's just not the same. That's your, that's your next company as a spray pan. He's cleaning products in spray tan. Without getting too granular. Okay. And someone's giving birth in the hospital. What's the Allison birth plan?

Ooh, I mean, back to basics, baby. Okay. I'm literally like, please do as little as possible. I mean, okay, I'm, I'm someone who has had. all my babies at home. So like I have embraced the fact that our bodies can do this and I have to tell myself this over and over when I'm facing the pain and there's another baby coming and I'm like, how am I going to do this? I have to hype myself up. So for me personally, if I'm giving birth in a hospital, I want to be able to move constantly. So if they're going to do the constant

fetal monitoring, which to me is excessive because I don't need to know every single detail of what's happening because I feel like that can sometimes over-imiting. information can be stressful, right? And I think that early intervention that's unnecessary sometimes comes in because we're so micromanaging every single piece of our birth. And I hope I'm not stepping on toes or making people upset right now. But for me, I'm like, I want as little monitoring as possible. I want to be able to move. I want to be able to get on my hands and feet. I mean, ideally, I've given birth three times with maybe coming out underwater. So like, I love a good water birth, but at least I would love to be able to labor in the water because it tremendously

helps that pain. But how can you do that if you have an epidural? You cannot. Okay. So if you're having an epidural, it's a whole different subject. I would say once that baby comes out, give me my baby, and we don't need to do anything else. And then let me go home. Okay. So I'll just keep it at that because I'm not going to get into more details. But I'm like very back to basics. The one thing I can say here on air is try to delay the umbilical cord clamp as long as possible. Like how long? Okay. So the hospital will say, oh my gosh. gosh, it's fine. All the blood has been transferred. Well, you don't want to wait till it stops pulsating. You want to wait until that cord is white. Okay, so in the 1960s, they introduced the early cord clamp because potosin was popular, right? And they didn't know how the drugs and the delayed cord clamping would mix. Well, now we do know that you can delay the cord clamp and still have the cord clamp and still have the cord clamp, still have all the things. And you can still delay the cord clamp and everyone is fine. But because the hospitals are just kind of coming into this information, it takes, you know, know, years for I feel like America to catch up. But when you delay the cord clamp, you can

increase the blood supply up to a third. So that's a ton more iron, which is amazing for brain development. There's no reason to clamp that cord in under 10 minutes. So sometimes the hospital will say, okay, we'll give you a few minutes, but I'm like, I don't know, give me an hour if you can. Like, I don't need this to rush. Yes, literally, literally, literally, until it's completely white. Would they rush you along? So as long as possible. If it's five minutes, that's better than then immediate. Quick break to talk about Symbiotica, one of our favorite supplement companies, one of our favorite wellness companies. We've had the founders of Symbiotica on this podcast so many times. And here's the thing. Symbiotica brings the best products to market.

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Did you know that most tolop paper has formaldehyde and chlorine in it? It also has dyes. I was shocked to know. I found out this probably a year ago, that there's all of these crazy things in toilet paper. We're wiping our most intimate areas with this all day long. My daughter is using the toilet paper. My husband's using it.

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The blankets and the beanie's. Blankets and the beanie's definitely B-Y-O-B and B. Bring your own. Yeah, for sure. I would definitely bring my own all the things. Because think about not only the blanket and the polyester and the microplastics in it and that fresh baby skin that's covered in that beautiful vernex that you're not going to wash off, but then what are they washing those things in?

Clorox. Oh! But these are easy wins, Lauren. These are easy wins. You have your own little basket with your 100% organic blanket. you have their first outfit, you have their first beanie. I mean, it's easy. Those are easy.

It's easy. But I will say there is a pushback energy that I cannot explain. It's an undertone. Call it what you want to call it. I feel it every time I've given birth of like, what do you know? Girl, if there is one person in this world that can command her birth story, I'm looking at her right now. Own it. Own it.

I feel, yeah. I feel, also, you're. you're fucked up from the drugs of when you do an epidural yeah yeah you're a little bit out of it Allison I love an epiturial I walk and I'm like so in my mind I'm thinking

she's missing this part and you're thinking no she's missing out on the epidural you are missing out on the epidural it's really fun but the epidural the post epidural I'm not missing out on because I have her in a phase boss bitch after the epidural I'm like that's why you lay all this out in the

beginning and Michael is advocating for you just like he does. We'll talk off there. Michael is advocating for me. Michael's amazing. Michael's amazing. And Michael's a guy that when you give him the information and the facts, he pivots, which is great. Absolutely.

Or else we would be living in chlorine and wind up. Except the hair job. Except the hair job. That's the one thing that he won't give up. So it's just, it's hard a little bit to advocate when you're kind of, you're highly understand that. I honestly, I'm all about a birth. plan and we with my first, you know, you just never know what's going to happen with your first. And so I was very diligent about making my hospital birth plan. Since then, I've been like, these babies are coming out at home and I just have, I'm set on that story and I've just, that's happened in my life. But I was very much ready with my bag by the door when my, when I was giving birth to my first thinking, I don't know if we're going to transfer. I don't know what this is going to look like. And I had laid out what she, I mean, in a sheet, like, typed out what she was going to be wearing. What? Absolutely. Yeah.

send that to me? Yes. I think a lot of people do this. I mean, what I... Oh, I had it with the first two. Yeah. I'm just saying I had it and there's still an undertone. And it's not with everyone. It's just with certain situations. The reason that I do not want a homebirth because I think I would want a homebirth is because I've realized that I would have to manage Michael. And he, he, When he gets like really nervous or stressed, he gets into this state and it throws me off. He would need his own dula maybe. Yeah. Like when towns cut his head open, like he got stitches in his head.

I was like trying to focus on towns because Towns is crying and screaming. But Michael's energy was like up here and he wants me to take emotional residency, which is like matching his energy. but I have to stay calm and stoic for towns. Yeah. So I just feel if I gave birth at home, please not listening to this, he would be like a maniac. Yeah.

Yeah. And I, it would like ruin his spirit. But this actually what you're saying, actually what you're saying, I mean, I'm self-aware. I'm serious when I say this.

Everyone has to give birth in the place that they feel the safest because that's how they're going to open up and have a baby in the least intervened manner. And I'm serious when I say that. So for me, I don't feel very safe. safe in a hospital. I don't like the hustle, the

fluorescent lights, trying to advocate for things that the hospital may not want, right? So I get, I would probably have what they call failure to progress, and they'd probably wheel me in and cut me open, right? But at home, I'm like, I own this space, I'm relaxed. But then I talk to so many people who are like, I would be so freaked out at home. I'm like,

home is not where you should give birth. You need to go to that hospital where you can relax. You feel safest in the hospital. You will, wherever you are going to open up the quickest, that's where you go. I think, too, now that you're saying this, I'm not, I don't like my house out of order. Yes. That gives me anxiety to have people walking in and out. So that was actually my only negative thing.

And I was cleaning as I was in the first and second stages of labor. That's how I would be. I was making sure that my bathroom was perfectly clean and that my astringent was picked up and my cotton balls and my like face tape was in the trash. Like I didn't want because I knew people would all be in there. So yeah, I get that. And all, just people in and out of my house and like managing that, I would feel a little bit like I have to host, but I really think the root of it is I love the epidural. Yeah, those epidurals,

they need to find a home-based epidural. They really do. After 10 months, you haven't had any vice. And then it's like, give me that fucking epitrol right now. Yeah. Yeah. Does anyone else feel like that? Okay. I'm sure most of your listeners do that most of them are relating to you right now, not me. Air filters in the baby's room. I'm doing Jasper. What's your favorite? Austin Air. I mean, find one without a smart meter with low EMFs that is obviously HEPA, HEPA, make sure the filters are clean, right? That's huge. Make sure it's not right there next to the baby. I love using our Austin Air as a sound machine. I feel like that's a huge win for that white noise in the background. Ooh, can I talk about baby monitors for a second? Yeah, I was just going to ask you about that.

Hold on, everybody. We've just gotten rid of our wet wipes, our car seat turned stroller, and now we're taking a way down. Burned down the nursery. Use an organic match. Oh my gosh. That's hilarious. So baby monitors. Okay, first of all,

EMFs are a real thing. We don't taste them. We don't see them. We don't smell them. We don't touch them. And so we want to forget about them. But we have to remember baby's brains are highly absorbable. There's so much more water content.

And so they actually absorb EMFs twice as much as the adult brain. So babies are not just little humans. They breathe twice as much air. I mean, pound for pound, they're eating more, they're drinking more, they're absorbing more, absorbing more. So studies have found that the term between birth and six months in terms of exposure to EMFs is highly correlated to autism spectrum disorders. So when you think about that, that baby brain is just on overdrive, growing like crazy, and having a baby monitor, which is super high in radio frequency fields constantly on your brain. baby as they're sleeping when their brain is processing and storing all this information, it's just not good. And, you know, it's hard to say, okay, well, so what do I do? Do I just

listen to my baby to scream? I have somehow gone for babies and never used a baby monitor. I would rather not hear my baby for the first few minutes instead of feeling like I can watch their every single move. I feel very safe that my baby is, you know, sleeping on an organic mattress and not smelling a bunch of toxins, and I feel like monitoring the every move of a child and having to watch them as they sleep can cause a lot of maternal anxiety. And so that is one option is to not have one. There's another option of tech wellness has one that you can actually hardwire. So you can be constantly watching the baby, but you are, there are cables. Okay. So it's not as, you know, chic. And then the second back or third best option besides not having one,

having the hardwired one is L-R-E-R-E-E-E-E-E. And there is not one baby monitor that is going to have no EMFs. Okay, they're all going to have some sort of E-M-S unless they're hardwired. But L-R-R-R-R-V has been tested as the only one that claims to be low EMF to actually have a low EMF setting. So I would highly consider that. Also, if anyone is taking care of your baby at any time, whether it's a minute or an hour, my rule is no cell phone by that baby's head. No cell phone by that baby's head. I mean, get the cell phone. It is a radio satellite right next to that baby's brain. Okay, I have the best hack for that, Lauren, because sometimes you have to have your cell phone while you're nursing. Okay, so we had an

electrician come out and he dropped a line in the wall and put a jack next to my bed, okay, because I wanted to be able to nurse and scroll Instagram and check DMs and do the things that sometimes you need to do as a business owner. And I actually hardwire my phone. And I actually hardwired my phone. So my phone actually becomes like a mini laptop. Okay, so I cannot make calls, but I can scroll the internet. I can scroll social because I am actually hardwired with Ethernet into a jack next to my bed. It will take a few hundred dollars for an electrician to come do that. Your home. Why can't you just nurse and put your phone way away from you on airplane mode? You can. That's ideal. But sometimes when you're nursing hours and hours a day and you're trying to, you know, answer somebody or you want to

scroll Instagram. I mean, my option right here is better than just having your phone by the baby's head, which is what most moms do for hours a day. But I'm with you. Listen, that's the ideal. I have to get a hardwire in my house. Well, can you text me how to do that? I'll send you an electrician. Well, you know who I love? The Test My Home guy. He always recommends Branch Basics, too. Oh, we love him. He's great. I have notes all over this. It's overwhelming because, Not because this is overwhelming. It's overwhelming to me because there's so many brands that just don't care. Yeah. That's what's overwhelmed. Yeah. Yeah. Branch Basics does care. And do you guys have a code for us? We do. Okay. Skinny 20. 20% off all starter kits and laundry powder.

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So let the takeaway from this not be brand bashing or, oh my gosh, this is so overwhelming. But this is honestly an opportunity to make changes and to support the companies that are doing better because there are so many great ones.