The Bossticks - How To Find A Supportive Partner & Master The Art Of Resilience With Leyla & Manny Khoshbin

Episode Date: October 18, 2019

#222: On this episode we sit down with a powerhouse couple! Leyla Milani-Khoshbin & Manny Khoshbin. We discuss how to start from the bottom and rise to the top, how to find a supportive intimate partner, and what it takes to run a business together as a couple. We also discuss resilience and how to find continuous drive when the path is not always so clear. This episode covers a lot of ground. Buckle up and enjoy! To connect with Leyla Milani-Khoshbin click HERE To connect with Manny Khoshbin click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by BETABRAND and their Betabrand dress pant yoga pants. To try these pants go to betabrand.com/skinny and receive 20% off your order. Millions of women agree these are the most comfortable pants you'll ever wear to work.  This Episode is brought to you by Ulta Beauty. Ulta Beauty is dedicated to bringing its guests the most exciting new brands, which is why they've just launched an entire platform built to help beauty lovers discover more. Introducing SPARKED at Ulta Beauty™, the new destination for curated need-to-know brands—many exclusive to Ulta Beauty—which each have authentic stories and products. Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you alone for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

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Happy Friday. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Mani and Layla. we are going to get into it with them. You guys, it's a him and her perspective. For the host, you have me, Lauren Everett's Bostick, depending on the day. Oh, it's a good day because you actually added Bostick. And I'm Michael Bostick. Guys, welcome back.

You're getting a little hard on over my Instagram photo over there. At first I don't know if that should be out to the world, but listen, it's like an art piece. Our friend Kaleel, Lauren, I don't even if you've seen this text yet, our friend Kaleel, Khali, who's been on this show, one of my favorite episodes we've ever done. If you guys haven't checked that episode out, you got to check it out. He is the best, guys. He just sent me a screenshot saying that he has a new phone background, and it is you, but naked, pregnant.

And I was like, all right, Khalil. Listen, I can't, I can't hate him for doing it. I would do the same. So I did a professional photo shoot naked and with underwear on. And there was lights and makeup and hair and the whole shebang. And it was like a whole entire shoot. And so, yeah, you know, you throw a filter on that. And it's going to look like a magazine situation.

Listen, I had a lot of help. You are a vision, but it is a little strange when my actual friends are putting you on the backgrounds of their phone. I'm not sure how I feel about that yet. Well, Michael, your background of your phone is your Chihuahuas. Yeah, that's true. But you'll never change. It's like literally like the Nashville filter from 1992.

It was the day Instagram came out. You have this weird attachment to your Chihuahuas that no one knows about. Like, I feel like you need to talk about that. I also like to just fuck with you because it's kind of like you are like, what kind of photo do you need to do to displace that photo and you haven't done it yet? Even with this one, which I love, I mean, it's a beautiful photo of you. I mean, I might do another photo shot, like bent over like in doggy style. Oh, I'm sure that one. My friends would have that on their backgrounds too. I'm going to text all your friends in. Please do not. Okay. So we have decided that we're

going to do a question of the week. And if you have any catchy names for this segment, we'd love to know your opinion. We want to do something catchy just to brand it. But in the meantime, what it is, it's basically answering one of you guys's questions. It can be a question on anything. Literally ask us anything. I don't know if we'll be able to answer anything, but we'll give you our best shot. So the first question of the week is one that I've seen over and over and over again. It's not from a specific person, but in the future, when you guys do ask questions, we will shout out your Instagram handle. So this is just a question, Michael, that I've seen everywhere. And I think that you will be able to add some wisdom here. And I also think Taylor, who's Mike, let's hope, is on. It's hot as that photo

you posted. Oh, God. We'll be able to answer this. So this is the question I keep seeing. How do you manipulate your significant other into a skincare routine? Are you saying that I was manipulated into a skincare routine? I've answered this before on the show. Here's the problem. All right, Lauren, I'm assuming that you're thinking that like there's a girl and she's got a boyfriend and she's trying to get him to do skincare. That's how I'm framing the answer to this question. So maybe if I'm not, if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. Go ahead, Mr. Dewey. Well, here's the problem is that I feel that I have an unfair advantage over most of the men

because I have got to sit on this show with you and interview literally some of the top skin care experts in the world. Disagree, because if you're, if you are in your bathroom right now doing your makeup, turn it up on the skincare expert podcast and make sure that your significant others listening in the background. Okay, but listen, I get that. But what I'm saying is I have actually physically been, part of the conversations. You've got, you know, Dr. Dennis, Dr. Diamond, Dr. Barbara Stern. Like, I've got to, like, the drunk elephant. I've got to have conversations with the global, I've had conversations with every skincare expert, Georgia Louise, like all these people that are just like shooting to my mind. And so I've actually firsthand got to sit down and

like understand, understood the benefits of skincare. And then also, fortunately, these brands are giving me some products. So, you know, I'd have to be a real dumb shit to not do something with my skin. That being said, the best way, in my opinion, to get just an everyday average Joe onto some skincare routine is to not overwhelm them. Pick one brand. It can be any brand. I would suggest not picking one that's super pink and fluffy in the beginning because men, you know, they have their reservations. They want to feel manly. Maybe start with like Dr. Dennis or Dr. Start with Big Dick Skincare. Yeah, whatever, whatever it is. And I would do a simple three steps. Same brand, three steps. Here's what you do. Face wash. So they can use in the

shower. Don't make them reinvent the wheel here. Then a serum. Simple, simple, simple serum, maybe a vitamin C serum. And then a moisturizer. And you say, listen, Guy, you put this, you wash your face in the shower. Can we throw in a sunscreen for a good measure during the day? I wouldn't do it in the beginning. I'm telling you, this is how you do it. Get a sunscreen with moisturizer. What happens is, you get in this and they realize how easy it is. Okay, like maybe you put this one on before you brush your teeth. And then after you done brush your teeth, put this one on. So it's only three things. It takes them 30 seconds. Can we throw in a tongue scraper? Yeah, but that's not skincare. Now we're going on tango. Yeah, we always do.

Okay, so that's, no, that's really good advice. But what I'm saying is what will happen is they'll realize how easy it is and then they'll start to add other things. You just got to slowly put them in like, hey, like what you did to me. Like, hey, by the way, I have a sunscreen. By the way, I have this like eye cream. And then I was like, oh, okay, I'm already doing it. So it's easy.

That's the best way. And then you have to give some positive reinforcement saying, man, your skin looks better. You're looking. And then you have your friends say, oh, like, that looks better, you know. And then you like do a mist in front of them. And you're like, oh, this mist feels so good. this is the best feeling ever and they're like, oh, can I use some of that miss? Can I be honest with you, though?

This is the problem with a lot of women giving other women advice about men. That just annoys me. No, it works. You didn't miss the other day. No, it annoys me. When you're doing that and you're spraying it around, this is the problem. I'm telling you, women think that they know how to give men advice just the same way men think they know how to give women.

I don't try to do that. That's a lie. I'm telling you the way to do it is to just say like, hey, you can use this in the shower, you can use this when you get out and this after you're done brush your teeth. It's just as simple as that. I have a hot tip. So this is my latest. I'm really into facial massage, and I know all the benefits of lymphatic drainage.

So I've been thinking for the last hundred years how I'm going to get Michael into lymphatic drainage, and I think I finally hooked him. Here's what I did. I got a really great oil. There's this oil from floral farms. It's super random in Kaubo. I found this little, like, it's like an organ oil. And I've told him at night that I will massage his face.

Okay? and so at night turn the salt rock lamp on maybe put some housewives on perhaps some basanova music maybe some ocean sounds white noise machine i don't know uh some lavender on the pillow and then i let him lay on my lap and i massage his face with this argon oil this is not listen i i love we're going really specific here but let me just bear with me you have been bringing me the oil to bed every night now yes but this is different so this how so because the man doesn't have to do anything i literally just hand you oil and lay there and get massaged. So what? That's still skincare. That's great. But now you're

seeing learn now there's a lot of women be like, I don't want to do that work. Maybe some do. Maybe like you. But, you know, this is creating work for you. No, it's not because I have to look at your face every day. So it's actually just, it's working for both of us. It's benefits. It's win-wins. Well, listen. I mean, you get an A-plus because I love the massages. Thank you. You got me on skincare. And Taylor, what's your opinion? Because you have a whole, whole new Mary Poppins bag full of drunk out of it. He's also got to listen to every conversation. That's why he's into it.

Yeah. I agree. I actually. Believe it or not, I was just using a facial, a facial mister the other day, the Ole Henrickson, what is it called? Let me see. I just opened it up. I thought you were going to say, I actually just blew a load in my face. But I do like facials, though. Not from, not receiving.

Yeah. Okay. Oleghrenrickson was pure natural facial water. Feels nice. Okay, so back, I agree with Michael completely. I think the biggest thing. You always agree with Michael completely. Almost more motherfucker.

In the sense of there's so many products. and it can't be very overwhelming to be given so much. And a lot of the things don't make sense at first. Clear that frog in your throat. Yeah, I know. Hold on. You know, right back there. You got it. So what I was saying is there's so many types of products that it's not only overwhelming,

but a lot of them as a man didn't make sense to me. I didn't know what a serum was. I didn't know what a, you know, like the facial oil did. I just, it didn't make sense to me. And learning, like, baby stepping from a facial cleanser, which is something that most people usually use to putting on a serum and then maybe a moisturizer. That's a simple thing that everybody can really get behind. And also, I think the other hurdle is that so many of the products are branded towards females with very, very

beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, you've got to get over that. That's being stereotypical. No, no, but it's true. Are you kidding? Me? Look at a lot of the products. There's still a lot of men that are out there. There's still a little bit, you know, insecure with using a bright pink serum. Like so, you know, that'll change over time. They'll get comfortable. There is nothing hotter than a guy that uses a serum. Yes, but listen, this is what happens. It's like, you got to baby step them into it.

Like, don't just throw them in. Like Scotty Chuna's like nearing his ball sack. We're not going that far. Yeah, I mean, listen, I've been living in the world of pink for a long time now with you here, with your brand. And so I'm like, okay, whatever. It's just like one shade now for me. But all my guy friends have skincare routines. I gave Weston Ellumis, your own drunk elephant.

I want everyone to try all the products to tell me their feedback. Taylor is literally grinning from ear to ear. because he got a whole thing of drunk elephant. How happy are you, Taylor? I did. I basically got, it looks like it's made for, like, intent influencers because it's the whole line. Yeah, you're peacocking it around the office and all the girls are like, can I get some of that?

Could I try baby facial? And you're like, no. Well, yeah. So the reason being is there was also a bunch of Sunday Riley stuff that got sent to the office and I didn't get any of that. So now they're like, oh, like, what do we get? Now you have the whole drunk elephant thing. So, Lauren, I didn't even get to tell you this, but then we got to get into the show.

So this office gets sent a lot of stuff by different brands, you know, for people to try out. And a lot of the ladies in the office go and they grab all the stuff and like we give it out. And anyway, the other day, this brand that sent the skincare stuff, it got taken in like three seconds. So everybody in the office grabbed it. And he was left alone. He was so pissed off. And the only thing that was left in the office was the gift of beef broth cubes.

That's a hard word, just a lot of stuff to say. So I went to his desk and he just had all these broth cubes. Really weird. Only guy in the office I wanted. But listen, I'm sure it's good beef broth. Beef broth cubes, Taylor. What are you going to do with that? Here's how it went down.

So I went into the break room and there were all these little things. It's like bullion beef, like gravy cubes. It's like turkey, mushroom. And there's four of them. And I thought, oh, wow, cool. These are great. I'm finally something I like. So I took them back to the desk.

And as I was walking back, I see everybody with these like Sunday Riley, like gift bags. And I asked one, where did all those Sunday Riley bags come from? Like, oh, there was a bunch. There was like 30 of them in the break room. And we all took them. So I didn't see the Sunday Riley. All I saw were the beef cubes. Then I was pissed.

I was mad because at first I was excited about the beef cubes. But now I was a little bit. better because I didn't miss that on the road. That's enough about beef cubes. Let's get into the show. Let's welcome Layla and Mani. They are a power house duo. They are both major entrepreneurs. I mean, guys, you're not even going to believe their story. Mani has completely worked his way up. So has Layla. They came together. They have two kids. You should know that Layla is a wife, a mama two, a philanthropist, a go-getter. She's the founder of Layla Malani Hair. And she has Haremann, okay? We're going to do a huge giveaway with her company at the end of this episode,

so make sure you are tuning in. And then Manny is a husband, a father, an entrepreneur, a car influencer, and he is living the American dream. He also has a book, guys. So they are major, so excited to have them on the skinny confidential him and her show. And before we hop into that, let's talk about Ulta Beauty. Alta Beauty, who doesn't love Alta Beauty? So as we all know, a spark is the start of something new, exciting, fresh, alive, and that's what Ulta Beauty sees in these emerging brands. You know, I'm obsessed with branding. I love a new brand, and I feel like they're very much on the pulse when it comes to stories and products and brands to ignite your curiosity. You can expect the collections to include cosmetic, skin, and hair products.

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Thank you. It's good to be here. So we want to get both of your backgrounds. I guess who should we start with? Which one of you wants to pass a coin, honey? Yeah. Ladies first. Ladies always first.

Who wants to go in the hot seat first? Okay, I'll go first. So I guess I'll take it back. I'm from Iran originally. My mother was always a strong, female force. She definitely knew what she wanted in life. And unfortunately, my father was just not very kind to her, and he was just abusive. And so she decided one day that she was going to leave.

And not just leave him, she was going to leave the country. And so she decided to take me and my six-month-old younger sister. I was nine at the time, and she wanted to move us to Canada. She really wanted to move to U.S., but it wasn't – it's not very easy to migrate here, especially from Iran, even back then. And so she took us to Canada, which was very more open. And she's a nurse. She's a registered nurse.

And so she was able to practice as a nurse again. She had to take a lot of tests. She had to, her English was great, which was a good thing. She had that, but she didn't have very much money. She just had two little girls that she had to support. And she moved us to Toronto. She worked long hours. And I became sort of her helper, almost like a dad figure to my younger sister.

I took care of her. I raised her. And, you know, fast forward 10 years later, her dream was always to move to Los Angeles. And I think more than anything, it wasn't really the glitz and glim. It was really the weather. We're both very weather dependent. I'm always cold. And so is she. So she wanted beautiful sunny California. And so she moved us out here. And, you know, I really owe everything that I have, even obviously meeting my husband to her because if it wasn't for her strength to leave Iran and my dad and even leave Canada, even though we had a pretty cushy life there, just took a lot of balls. And I was really proud of her. She stood on her two feet. She still does. She's not remarried or anything. She still works and takes care of herself. And so I think that really is what has driven me throughout my life.

And it's made me the person I am today. It's made me not get into a lot of bad situations that you can get as a teenager or as a young adult, as a woman without a father, you know, all those things. And because of that, that story. So, such a courageous woman. I mean, obviously, it's rubbed off. Thank you. Yeah, it really has. What was your first job? My first job was, I was a telemarketer, and I was really good at it.

I did that in the summer. I was like 15, 16, and I loved it. I was really hustling and trying to make my quotas, and I did that for two summers. And then I started working in nightclubs as a shooter girl. I don't know if you guys know what that is, but do you remember back in the day? I don't know if you do. But for me, I always said, I go to clubs anyway with my friends. I might as well make money while I'm Like, I always wanted to make money and stand on my own two feet. So I became a shooter girl, which has these girls that walk around, and they have these shot, like, test tubes with drinks. I definitely know what the shooter girls are. I know what the shooter girls are, too. I was going to be a bartender, but I realized you have to share your tips with people.

I'm like, this is not for me. I want to make my own money within the club. Greed. I did not know. I was self-employed within the club. I did not know there was a term for that. But now that you describe what it is, I know exactly what it is. It's got me in a lot of trouble.

that anymore, but that was like my second job. And yeah, it was good. I was able to save, you know, some good money. And when I came to Canada, I had that cushion. And then I went to Fidham for fashion. I thought fashion is my destiny. I love clothes. It's my passion. I'm going to have my own clothing line. And I did. At 19, I had my own denim line. Wow. So I was working in downtown LA in the garment district, carrying out patterns and samples, going to laundry houses, because denim business is so difficult. Don't ever get into denim. There's so many steps to getting it right. And you lose so much money with fabric and laundry houses and pattern makers and cutters and sores and all that good stuff. Anyway, I got out of that. I realized it wasn't my passion. And I was like 21, 22. I'm in Los Angeles.

And you know, you're young. You're going out. You're meeting people. You sort of fall into the entertainment industry, I guess. I met an agent. I met a manager. And I started working on music videos. I think the first one was. 50 cents. 50 cents. It wasn't the first one. That was one of the more notable one. Which which song? Candy shop.

Okay. Yeah. I was born. I have maybe like three seconds. So you'll see me. I'm on the couch, I think, with Lloyd Banks. They refer to me as the Hispanic blonde girl. Anyway, so I did that.

I was on entourage. I worked as an extra for several episodes, which got me my sack card. So the show actually got me my sack card. I was very proud of myself. And then I started going on other auditions. And one thing led to another. I got on WWE. I competed in that.

I came second place out of 8,000 girls worldwide, which was my first taste of competition. I've never been in, like, sororities or beauty pageants or anything of that nature. So for me, that was, like, my sorority and my group of girls. It was really a lot of fun. And then I got deal or no deal right after with Howie Mandel. And that sort of kind of propelled. Megan Markle? Yes.

Was she there? Of course she was there. And she stood next to me for several. episode. So she was not a regular girl. I was a regular model, meaning I had a contract. That's where I think initially. Yeah, a long time ago before social media. I looked very different. I had curly blonde, brown hair, big, massive. I look like a lioness. We need a showback on Instagram. Yes, God, please. You got to do one. I'll send you one. Yeah. Don't Google it. Okay. I was going to have Taylor pulled up on the Google. Yeah, one's going to Google. Yeah, for sure. Okay. So Mani, give us a little bit of your

background. Oh, man. Do you have all day? No, I'm just... We got a while. Well, we have a pretty similar stories. You know, she had an abusive, you know, father and had an abusive government. I'm just kidding. No, my dad has a big family, you know, he has seven brothers and four of them got crippled or actually two died and two got crepilled from going to the war, Iran and Iraq war back in the early 80s. So I was his favorite. And in Iran, when you reach age of 14, you're illegal to exit the country. You have to draft to the army and he witnessed his brothers being crippled and you know getting killed and two weeks before a 14th birthday he just decided i don't know he just decided he's going to pack and leave he gave the keys to

his store he had a small hardware store and also his house and cars and give it to his older brothers to sell everything sell us the money which unfortunately never happened whatever that's another story for another episode but long story short but a little over two thousand dollars we left my sister was six-month-old, just like a little sister was six-month-old. And we went to Turkey, got a visa after two weeks, and came to Costa Mesa, California, because my dad knew a guy that owned a bunch of gas stations, and he had promised them a job, pumping gas, full service. So we arrived. We took a taxi from LAX to Newport Beach, this guy's house. And then second night, they're fighting big time. We can hear him from the kitchen. We're all in the room. Your dad and the guy that you came to stay with.

The husband and wife are fighting. Oh, the husband and wife. Yeah, yeah. I guess he hadn't told a wife that, hey, there's six people moving in. Oh, he's fucked. Left that house. I'm sure that one ever well. He walked into the room and he told us, I'm so sorry in Farsi. You know, you're telling us, you have to leave, you know. This is like my wife, you know, wasn't under impression.

You guys are moving in, blah, blah, blah. So we moved to a motel in Costa Mesa. And after a week or so, my dad said, hey, we're running out of money. He called them back. He goes, he's not right. You know, you hung me dry. I brought my kids here, you know, in your support of giving me a job. So we met him.

at his gas station, one of his gas station, he was selling cars, used cars. And he sold us a 1972 dots on a station wagon, 5-10 a station wagon, whatever he's called. So for a few hundred bucks, and that became our house. Wow. For like several weeks until my dad got a job. So he was educated. You know, he had his like CPA. He was a senior cost account for the oil company. But when the regime changed, he didn't want to work with the new Ayatollahs, whatever. And he moved us to a small town and open the little hardware store to get away from all that new regime. So long story short, he got his first job after a couple of weeks, his first paycheck. We were able to move to a one-bedroom apartment in Costa Mesa.

What's going through your mind as a young man at this point, coming to a new country, leaving your home country, you know, and being in this situation. Like, what are you, and obviously you have your siblings? Like, what are you thinking at the time? Well, you know, witnessing all everyone's suffering, you know, kind of forced me to grow up pretty quickly, you know. I turned a 14-year-old into a man pretty quick, you know. So all that guilt trip, you know, I think that was my drive and motivation.

So I wanted to reach financial freedom by any means to get my parents out of that, you know, suffering, financial suffering. So it was pretty tough because I could also not communicate. I didn't speak a word of English, you know. Yeah. So that was tough. What was the first thing you did to kind of make ends meet as a young man? So I was looking for opportunities, right?

Since I can't speak, you know, I was just observing. you know, with my eyes, you know what's around me? So every time I took the trash out, I realized people living stuff by the dumpster, like patio set, you know, dining set, toaster, radios, old TVs. And I couldn't understand why it's by dumpster. So I would haul it back to my patio, a apartment patio. And then I would test it see if it works. If it work, I would put it there. If it didn't work, I took it back to the dumpster. But after several months, I end up with a bunch of, you know, working appliances, furniture. And then we lived across from Orange was college, which they used to have swapmates on the weekends. And that's where actually me and my

mom used to walk over there by some used household goods for the kitchenware. So I'm like, hey, we got all this stuff I've been piling up collecting. Why don't we just sell it across the street? So after six months of moving into the apartment, I went into business for myself, you know, selling used goods across the street. Both of you are so entrepreneurial. You're doing shots with shock girl. Yeah. I'm selling junk. I mean, you know, there's, we're talking about this There's some people in this life that you can look at it and you know, like, you put them in any situation and they're going to thrive. And I think that both of your examples of that. Like some people have that and some people don't.

But just being able to recognize opportunity, I think that's the, like a lot of people just can't recognize opportunity. You can be right in front of them. They just can't see it no matter what. They just can't see like, hey, that's an angle or that's something different. Like they're unwilling to look or they're just unable to look for it. I think it's interesting to talk to people at yourselves that can see those opportunities. Yeah. Well, you know, I tell everybody, you know, don't try to figure out life all, you know,

once, just do what's in front of you and do it better and know that that's a stepping stone to the next higher ground. And for me, I take the trash out. I see there is some valuable stuff there that's in front of me, right? I take that I got good at it. After a couple of months, we had two spaces instead of one. I was making like 100 bucks a week. You know, cost of goods is zero. It's all profit. Yeah, it's all profit. Yeah, it was like seven bucks or eight bucks per rental for per space. So it's like nothing, right? So I didn't need a car either. We just haul it over there with shopping cards, you know. But like homeless people,

nothing wrong with it. I was making a couple hundred a night in my little fanny pack back then. She's a smarter hustler. No, Gary Vee would, I feel like Gary Vee would really appreciate your story because he always talks about flipping things, like even if it's like a $5 puzzle, flipping it for $7.

Yeah. Well, they're saying there's people that are struggling financially right now and they're living in a nice home. He's like, look around your house and just look at some of the stuff that you're not using that. Yeah. I mean, during your time, you didn't have services like eBay and trade

Absolutely. Like, there's so many tools that are disposed of people, people are just willing to look for the opportunity. That's what I tell people. People keep saying, oh, it's not as easy as you think. Back then, it was easy to make millions. I'm like, no, it's not. Now with technology, are you kidding me? Way easier now.

So much easier to have access to people, right? And access, like, network, you know? I mean, even to do what we're doing right now on this podcast, years ago to go, you'd have to go on a radio, station, up all this equipment. You have to have to get broadcast. You have to get sent me. I mean, literally we could do this. We record it and we could put it up now. It doesn't cause much.

And you can use profanities. Yeah, and you can use profanities and you don't have anyone micromanaging you, which I love. Yeah. So you want me fast forward? No, no, keep going. We want to hear the whole story. All right, so I did that until I got, I turned 16. Legally, I could get a job.

So my first job was Kmart. I applied to a bunch of places, but Kmart hired me as a... He took me to that Kmart, by the way. Yeah. And one of the employees was there and she recognized you. Wow. It was crazy. He went to buy me like some old lady water pack heater for myself.

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I became employee of the month. And then after a year, they promoted me to assistant sporting quiz manager. And I was always showing up on time. I mean, actually before I'm supposed to show up. I was 10, 50 minutes early. And I always stayed after I clock out, I was still collect shopping cars while I was waiting for the bus. You think that's because you just appreciated the opportunity?

I just wanted to give 120%. We're habitually on time. And I think that's one of the biggest things that we have that is responsible for the success of our relationship is that we're both always, like, we're just so, you know, about being on time. Do you want to teach me lessons on that? Yeah. Are you late?

I need help. First of all. Where do you guys live, by the way? We live in West Hollywood. No, we grew up in San Diego. We're here in West Hollywood. Because this is the, we're out of this office now. No, no, no, we don't do the drive.

I wish I could say that. But what I need, I need some tips on that. Yeah. You can give me some tips. We'll get into it. I work out of here every day. No way. This is the company.

Oh, very cool. Yeah. Awesome. So that was my first job. But I knew even Kmart is just another stepping stone, right? So every Sunday I was getting a newspaper looking for better opportunities. So one day I see this company advertising, make 500 bucks a week. And at the time, I was making a little over 100 bucks a week. It was $3.15 an hour. So I called them. I went for an interview. I got hired and it was door-to-door sales,

multi-level marketing. They were sending nuts back then, you know, pistachios, candies, nuts. Yeah. So I got hired. But before that, I want to tell you guys a story. I wanted to buy a car. So every week I took my page Kmart used to pay me cash back then in envelopes. Every Friday, you line up at the HR office and they give you cash. That's amazing. Yeah, no checks. I don't think you get away with that now. No.

So I used to take the change and leave the $100,000 literally under my mattress. So after one year, I had $5,200, I went to auction about in 1983-a-court, which back in there was 1986. So it was only three years old. My car was better than my dad. So I want to tell people about sacrifice, right? So I could have gone out and buy new jeans, new pants, go dine out. But I made my own sandwiches. took the bus. I was saving every penny.

So anyhow, I got the second job. It was WAA worldwide industries. After three months, I was their top salesman. One night, I'm at Price Club. Back then, you know, was Price Club, not Costco. And then I did a quick mat in the nut aisle when I was with my dad and mom buying stuff for the house. And I'm like, wow, this company is selling this stuff for three bucks a pound. It's $1.50 a pound here. And I already have my customers. So I want to just buy the nuts and packages set of myself. So I went home that day.

and my dad opened the yellow pages, look for polyester bags. You know where they sell bags? And I found a place in Santa Ana, California. I called them when I had bought all the 8-inch polyester bags and a sealant. And I opened my own business. I was 18. And then I had four employees working for me, making $4,000 a month. Six months later, health department was one of the guys I was selling nuts to while I was eating my sandwich.

He shows up and he goes, hey, we don't see you on our file. I'm like, what file? I didn't know you need health permit. every time you repackaged food, right? Oh, shit. For re-sell, I don't know. I have no idea. So anyway, he gave me a huge binder with regulations and you can sell.

He basically red tag me and shot me down until I bring the premises up to code. And then my dad looked at it and we read through the whole thing. I would like to see impossible. This building doesn't even meet the criteria. So that was my first failure. You know, I just completely shuts the business down? Yeah. Yeah, I had to go get basically a commercial kitchen, you know, to repackage food.

I'm like, forget it. doesn't make sense. So I had $20,000 are saved, this time 19 years old. My dad's friend says, hey, I sell gas stations and you could get SBA loan 90% financing. And you have 20 grand, so you could buy something for $200 grand. I was shocked. I'm like, wow, this is like, you know, a few years, you know, prior, my dad was supposed to work at a gas station. Now I'm buying my own gas station. I was like, I feel like, you know, so amazing, right? So we opened escrow on a gas station off of Crenshaw on 4 or 5. It was a mobile gas station. And I went to Rancho Kuku Manga to become certified. I went through the mobile school. I paid a $3,500 franchise fee, all the stuff. I still

on my plaque. But the guy that was doing my loan turned out to be a loan fraud. Oh, shit. Yeah. So, yeah, he charged me all this processing fee appraisal. He never ordered anything. And I found that he was doing it to a lot of people. He ended up going to jail a few years after. Long searcher, that was my second failure. So, and then I'm like, okay, what am I going to do now? My money's gone. I don't have any money. So I called one of the customers that used to buy a lot of nuts from me. It was a Winston tire manager in Montebello. So I used to drive everywhere, all the auto centers from San Diego all the way to Los Angeles to sell nuts. That's where my customers were.

So he gave me a job. I was assistant manager of a tire shop. So that was another stepping. So I'm like, hey, now this is in front of me. This is what I'm going to do. So I became really good at it to a point after a year they were moving me to underperforming stores to get their sales up because I used to really oversell. They're coming for all change. I give them new brake pads, you know, bumper to my own.

for service. You don't even know they needed. Yeah. No, that's not my character. I would find something they need. Well, you know, I'm just kidding. So during this whole process while you're building, when did you two meet each other? Oh, my God.

That's like another 20 years. Okay, so there's a lot of stuff. So I went through about 18, 19 different businesses. I failed, you know, a couple of times came close to basically bankrupt. I was negative net worth. When I had my supermarket, this is now 1997. Okay. So I skipped another 10.

business as? What do you think it is that separates you from, let's just talk about people about experience failure. I mean, I would consider like when you call it a failure, I think it's in your shoes, it's more of a learning story because you kept going, right? Yeah. So for somebody that's struggling on the brink of a, like, say, a failure, what would your piece of advice be for that person? I would say, what did you learn? You know, what did you learn and just improve your game and get out there, you know? I think so many people, they get, like, you know, they get one bump in the road and it's like, wheels come off, it's over, and they don't know what to do, they don't want to recover.

Yeah, it's true. It's very hard, especially the first one you get knocked out, you know. It's good, though. It's important. But it's all about mindset, you know, and each failure, you know, makes your mindset stronger. So you went through 10 more failures. Not so much failures, but not really making progress, setbacks, yeah. I mean, the worst one was my supermarket. I opened a supermarket in Santa Ana, California, and food for less opened right next to me like a few months later. Fuck. Yeah. So my sales went down. 50% on their grand opening weekend. And I was shocked.

I'm like, it's impossible. I mean, I was like, I couldn't believe it. And then I had a partner at the time. My partner gave up after six months. It goes, I'm not, you know, if it's not making money, I'm not coming in, blah, blah, blah. So I end up buying them out for 15 grand, which I had to go borrow. So I owned 100% at that time. But I fired four employees.

I had my parents come in, become cashiers, you know, and then do what you got to do. And then I'm like, I'm losing money anyway. Why don't I just go borrow money and advertise, you know, in, you know, newspaper, which was low opinion newspaper, the Mexican newspaper, locally there. And I used to run full-page ads and brought a bunch of teaser products like V-O-5 shampoo, sell it for 20 cents. Everybody says it for a buck 50. It's like teasers, you know, to bring people in. I brought Mexican bands from San Ana, give free taco, Takaria, this, that, to bring, and I pumped the sales up within a year double the sales. And then I listed sold it to two Korean brothers for 185,000,

you know, plus inventory. You know what I think so interesting, people that have had to struggle like both of you have. I think it's almost a piece of armor to understand. You've been at the bottom. You understand what it's like down there. And so I feel like in some ways it protects you because you're able to understand, okay, like that's the worst it can get. I mean, it's only up. I think a lot of people, they start privileged, which sounds like a lot of times being privileged sounds like it's a good thing. But I actually think in a lot of ways it's a weakness because you don't, you know, if you fall behind just where, you know where you came from, you don't know how to, you don't know how to handle. There's so many young people that grew up privileged. They don't know how to recover from a

step back because they just never been there before. You guys, can you speak on that a little bit? Absolutely. It's very, very true. Yeah, I mean, when you have hardship in life, especially early on, you know, when you're 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, you know, it's traumatic, right? It's trauma. But in some ways, you want to avoid that trauma in the future, so you work harder, right? So you don't just relax the back. But you also, if you do have trauma again, you've been there, right? So it's kind of, you know, it's a blessing. I hate to say it, you know, the early struggles in my life, it's, I look at it as a blessing now because it pushed me harder and I'm comfortable being at the bottom sometimes, you know?

Were you doing deal or no deal when you guys met? No, so the deal or no deal actually ended right when we met. We met in May 2009. Okay. And the show had ended after five seasons. It ended right at the top. Like we were the number one show. We were competing with American Idol.

We were like going toe to toe. And so we met. Do you want to talk about how we met? Sure. We met on Facebook. It was love at first poke. I was going to laugh if you said that you met him in the club, giving him a shot. That was in Toronto.

That was in Canada. No, no, I didn't do that here. That was like 18, 19. No, so we met on Facebook. The whole story is we were both going to the Playboy Mansion for one of their Halloween parties. I was there with my girlfriends. He was there with his girlfriend. Yeah.

And he saw me in the line. Seems like a little bit of a dicey move. I know. he saw me in the line. This is what he tells me because he's told me later, obviously. He said, when I saw you in the line, I said to myself, she's going to be my wife. Maybe you should be telling this story.

I was dressed as like a belly dancer or something. Anyway, so fast forward, I think it was a few years later. He sees me on Facebook at the time I was on deal or no deal, so I was somewhat recognized. And I was single by then. He was single at this time. I could poke her. He reached out to me.

Oh, I remember the pokes. Do they still have the pokes? I don't know. I got on Facebook really. I have no idea. I forgot about the pox. So back then, that was like a dating site in a way for us. I mean, not that I dated really anybody from Facebook.

You know what's interesting now that I think that? Facebook was kind of creepy back then with a poke, right? He was like, I don't know if you could get away with that now. Especially when the guys keep poking you. I think I disabled that. Like, I wasn't really like getting the notifications for that because there were so many creeps doing that. But he was smart. He approached me in like a really, you know, nice way.

Like he wasn't being. creepy about anything. I think really, I don't even think he was really hitting on me. I think he was just like looking for a friend. So we started talking. We both love cars. Yeah, she commented on my yellow Ferrari. I'm sure he was just looking for a friend.

This Ferrari had the most disgusting yellow wheels. Hey, it wasn't that bad. Like those wheels do not belong with that car. Please change them. Put black, put carbon fiber. Anything but that yellow dish. I agree. It was a little too much.

The whole car was dipped in yellow. You guys are all a little too much before we step in. Let's be honest. I mean, you should have seen Michael's teeth before me. His what? His teeth. Well, how to get the front more? Yeah, for sure.

No, listen, we don't know what we're doing until we get a, you know, we don't know. We have to like make some tweaks. Okay, so go on. So you guys, so go back to the car. So the yellow car. We were talking about the car. No, we just started talking about cars because we both love cars. And he's in Orange County.

I'm in L.A., so we're living far apart. And so we decided to meet after like a month and a half of talking on Facebook. and we met at this club lounge in Orange County. And really, we just hit it off immediately. We were talking for an hour straight. We left all of our friends that we were there with. They all got upset. My friends, there were some guy friends,

they thought that I'm actually ditching them for the owner of the club. They thought he's the owner of the club. Because I don't know, he just had that presence or whatever, but they knew him. Listen, it's better to be thought of as the owner than the busboy. Yeah. So they got mad at me. They left.

Hey, I don't sell nuts anymore. And they're from L.A., And I'm from, so I came with them. So it was kind of awkward. But anyway, we started talking for an hour. We just had so much in common. It was just instant chemistry, instant attraction. And the conversation just like, you know,

sometimes when you talk people online or over the phone. And then when you meet in person, it could be completely different. But it was. And it was like, just perfect. And then we had our first date at the Lakers game. And it was just, we took him to my condo in downtown L.A. Because it was right there by the Staples Center. And we had fun.

Not like that kind of fun. Hey, we did too I didn't sleep with you that night No, I didn't, but Stop Stop Cut this out This is a safe space

We were in the jacuzzi, okay? God Hey, no one's listening This is a safe space My building was new So there wasn't a lot of people That lived in the units yet So I took him to my jacuzzi upstairs

A beautiful view of the downtown I'm sure he liked that Yeah, she takes me up there She said drop your pants Just kidding So at this point Do you have your car business? and do you have your product line or is this not even happening?

No, no, it's not happening. So I just finished deal or no deal. I was one of the, you know, contract models. I was coming off of this high. I was making really good money. You know, I had saved up some money. And so when I met him, you know, we started talking and I told him about my idea for a line of hair extensions.

So my hair is all real. And on the show, I know nobody believes me. We have to talk about that later. You'll have to like go through. No, I believe you. That's a good head of hair. It's a good hair. Thank you.

Thank you. It comes with a lot of neck pain. It does. I actually have really bad neck pain, I actually have really bad neck pain, because I told him about my idea for extensions because at the time, there was only the Jessica Simpson line.

I don't know if you remember. And it was synthetic hair, looked like doll hair. And some of the models were using it because there wasn't any extension, like do-it-yourself clipins back then. And so I wanted to create really good quality human hair extensions

that you could do yourself and you don't have to go to the salon and get the glue and the tape and all that crazy stuff at the time. And so I told him about my idea. I'm like, look, I'm really known on this show from my hair. I'm getting so much

fan mail. Back then people were like literally sending fan mail. And I'm like, everybody wants to know, like, what's my secret? Like, how do I get my hair like this? So I told him about the extension line. And he's like, okay, I'll invest with you. And I was like, oh, cool. Yeah, it was a shark tank. Yeah. And I really didn't need the money so much. I just needed the support of just somebody else who believed in it and wanted to do it with me. And so we did it. And it took off. I think I paid him his initial investment within a few months, like less than a year, definitely. And then I expanded. We did hot tools and styling products. Bullshit.

I'm just kidding. See, listen. I'm just kidding. My husband will say the same. What are you going to say? What are you going to say? The move is like, I think Lauren's like, take the investment and just never give it back no matter what.

That's, and even if she can, she just doesn't, she's like, it's what. Biologists have the thing. It's like, my money's her money. Yeah. Yeah. He's very, I mean, he should be. And we are like business is business. And, you know, if you have an investor, you need to pay that investor back before you

do anything else. And so anyway. And I learn from you, honey. Yeah. I told you. We never talk at during business hours. And then what happened after that? And then...

He doesn't have his car business. His... It was a business. He was always a car collector. He never had a business per se. Got it. Now it's more of a business. So were you doing real estate and stuff?

Oh, yeah. It's always been. Really? Okay. Yeah, I got into that. You didn't get into the real estate. Yeah. So when I had the supermarket, back to the supermarket.

Yeah. So my landlord... My landlord told me he was an older guy, you know, very wealthy in real estate. And he said, what are you doing, like slaving away seven days a week and bouncing your rent check to me? So why don't you get into real estate? I'm like, I have no money. It goes when you got your place for sale. When he sells, you know, come see me.

So when I sold the supermarket, I owed $185,000 on my credit cards and I sold for like $180,000. So I didn't pay my credit cards. I'm like, I'm going to be negative net worth still. So I saw my friends banking money day trading stocks. and this was December 1998. So I opened the e-trade account, and I started trading AOL, CMGI, brocade, everything my friends were buying selling. So I tripled the money by September 1999.

Then I called my landlord. So I got some money. So he sent his broker. I ended up buying a shopping center in Lahabra, or actually weedier, and then two REO homes. So that's when I start really investing in real estate, using my cash to my benefit, to negotiate better prices. and I grew that up to like $250 million worth of real estate.

Wow. Yeah, as of recent. And it's been a blessing in the sky, you know. And that's what I'm saying. There's stepping stones. You keep going up and up on the mountain until you see what, you know, converse the best for you in life, you know? For me as real estate.

How have you guys sort of bounced off each other to expand and evolve your businesses? Because, I mean, you both have separate businesses that are taking off. And I was saying earlier you have these separate Instagram. accounts that are so strong, but how have you utilized each other? I think we really, first of all, respect each other's opinion. And for me, I come to him with many different, you know, concerns and questions in regards to the business. And when it comes to hiring for sure, she's got sharp antennas. Oh, for him, yes. So he is not a, he doesn't have a good read on people, especially employees when he's hiring. And so I have to go through that process for all his businesses, whether it's Cubana room,

his cigar lounge or Cashman Company his real estate side or anybody really mentorship like everybody So you meet the people I meet everybody

yeah Do you want to come do that for me? Yeah Yes Well it's important who you bring around you And you know A lot of times these people

They're hearing You know really personal stuff About your life Your business And they're in there And no matter how many NDAs you sign You just can't be too careful

And I think more than anything It's the character of the person And I have a pretty good read On people And so I don't want that sort of energy and that kind of, you know, influence around us. We have little kids, too. And, you know, obviously we've been married 10, we've been together 10 years, married 8. And, like, I'm very protective of him.

And not that he can't handle himself, but, you know, men. Like, they're not as intuitive as us. And so we see things that they don't. I know. I'm like, what? We see things that they don't. So, you know, I think it's our job. What do you guys think the secret to marriages? So many things.

Oh, my God. I think having. Respect. Respect. Having the same goals, values. Those are, like, I think, the biggest things. Like, we're both habitually on time. We're both super honest.

Goal oriented. Super goal-oriented. Family-oriented. Like, the things that are important to us is the same things. What else? That's really... I would say separate bathrooms. We definitely have that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. We definitely have that in this new house. Thank God. You got to have separate bathrooms. It makes such a difference. Like, don't touch my pink brush. Yes.

I will not touch the pink brush. Yeah. Separate toilet. Separate, yeah. Separate. Keep it separate. Like, I want, if I could have it on the other end of the earth, I would want it on the other end of the earth. I think we'll always.

As long as you're the one that has to walk there. Separ closet. That's important. Well, he has more stuff than I have, which is. Really? More clothes? Don't even lie right now. I probably have more.

She does this thing where she buys clothes and she wears it once and then, like, gets rid of it. But I don't get rid of it. I have a different problem. I don't get rid of it. So I'm like, I got to, I got to, yeah. Or I put it on tradesier or posh mark. Yeah. I got to find a way to declassie.

declutter here. Well, not a hoard, no, just maybe with clothes. I got to get rid of some stuff. Like, I saw stuff. I was like, what the hell is that still doing here? Start having your autographing, you autograph it, and you got sell it. You send it off. Lots of money.

There's some creeps that would love your shirt. Yeah. Sure. I will sell his underwear. Unwashed shirt. I'll sell his unwashed underwear if I have to do a hustle. I used to get those kinds of emails. Yeah.

No deal in WWW. They're like, can I please buy your socks even, like anything, your bikini. You're like, I'll do it for a hundred thousand minimum. There was a few girls that did that. Listen, if this whole thing doesn't work out. close now but Michael you're sitting on a fortune. I literally. Don't wash your stuff anymore. You see who knew? Go green. Opportunity was not just in front of me. It's beneath me. It's sitting on it this whole

time. Taylor set up my account. Taylor's back there like buying underwear right now. Who knows what he's doing? Buy different brands. Yeah. We don't know what Taylor's doing back there. So there's a lot of young entrepreneurs that are listening that are millennials or hustlers. What would you guys' top tip? And I would love to hear your separate top tip. Be to them. I would say don't give up. I know that sounds so cliche, but just don't give up. That's my line. Don't listen to naysayers. Don't listen to like pretty much no one. If you really believe in your idea and you have the ability to follow through and you're disciplined, that's all you really need. If it's a good idea and you're passionate about it, just do your research, surround yourself with

like-minded people, get rid of the negative people that are trying to bring you down or trying to sway you. And don't go for the comfort zone. Like, I never, nothing ever grows there. I know that's like a quote, but it's so true. Like, I always try to make myself uncomfortable, put myself in uncomfortable situations. Like, I could easily be sitting, you know, in my house in Orange County overlooking the view and not coming to do this. But like, there's so many benefits of me just being out here and meeting you guys and meeting all these great people here and just being in this environment. I mean, I'm from LA originally from here. Orange County is very boring. But like, just get out there, be in front of people and just immerse yourself in whatever

it is that your idea is. And your idea has been a lot. This hasn't been like something that happened overnight for you. I mean, I've, like, how long have you had this like whole brand? Lele Maloney Hair has been around for almost 10 years now. Yeah. I know. You've put the work in. I've put the work in and I really believe in the product. We've expanded, you know, the market is super saturated and things are so different now. But I have another brand hair to men, which is the hair self-loments that I've been taking the one for moms. Good. It's, do you like it? Yeah, I love it. It's just one a day. I just want my hair to look like yours. Well, actually, it is going to look like my ears because you brought me your extensions that are beautiful.

It's 24 inch. Perfect. Like, longer to better. I wanted you to go just super long. If you do some sexy like mermaid maternity shoot, that's what you need. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to definitely try this. In a lot of ways, I mean, I couldn't agree with you more of what you said about kind of blocking out the naysairs and not listening.

When I think about our career and I think probably this is in line, every time there's been an idea where I was like, yeah, that's a good one to keep going. It's always been the most short-lived. It's not been the things that people. have said, no, don't do that. I don't get that. You shouldn't be pursuing that. Those are the most successful. And it's hard, though, because if you're a young guy, young girl, and you're starting, your parents are saying, hey, don't do that, or your friends or other success. You listen to them. Yeah, and you listen. You say, okay, me, I mean, Lauren, when she was bartending, she always tells this story, I'll tell it for you, honey, but she basically was telling this guy while she was bartending,

hey, I'm going to start this blog that's going to be this brand and it's going to launch these other things. And the guys, like, how are you going to make money doing that? That's a bad idea. I don't get that. Back then, who was doing blogs? And he was the inventor of the airbag. So he's an extremely successful guy. So you look at someone like that and you're like, oh, he must have a good idea of what success looks like. If she would have listened to him, there's so many things that wouldn't have happened because of that.

And I think it's so important to be able to block that out and stick to your path and stick to your guy. I always say if people get what you're doing, you're not doing something right. I want to be a disruptor. Exactly. I want to disrupt the industry. So what would your piece of advice be to entrepreneurs?

Well, first things first, right? Your vision board where you want to be, you know, five, 10 years from now. That's so important, right? Right? I always did that. Because otherwise you're just going to idle through life. You're going to get comfortable. The first business you open is going to start making you money.

You're going to buy that Mercedes or BMW, get a nicer home. And then you just go on cruise control mode. And then you don't grow, right? So write your vision board. Make sure it's really big, you know, dream big. Super detailed. Yeah. And then, you know, just go out there and count your blessings.

You know, a lot of people don't realize just by having the freedom of waking up and being free to go out and go jog or go exercise or go to a Starbucks. To business. Yeah, go to a Starbucks and meet new people. That's a blessing. You don't get that in many countries. We couldn't do that in Iran. Yeah.

So, you know, county blessings. Always exercise. You know, exercise is the best antidepressant drug. People don't know. You know. He just started doing that. Yeah. So I work out five days a week.

Even if it's 10 minutes, it doesn't matter. If you don't have weights or equipment, roll out of bed and start doing push-ups and set-ups. Sounds like you. Yeah. Use your body weight. You got to do something. You got to move. Yeah.

So be productive, you know. It's impossible to be depressed when you're struggling like that. When your body's struggling and you're sweating and you're burning through. Yeah, you literally don't have the time to think about suffering because you're physically suffering. Yeah, your focus shifts to something else. You know, and exercise for me is not building my body. It's more of building my mindset. You know, it helps you focus more.

And while I'm, you know, in sauna after working out every morning, I do a lot of my day planning, you know. Even though I've written it a day before, but I go out there and, modify it and add extra stuff. So I'm in a work mode, you know, even though I was working out. Life is amazing. Just go out there, be productive, do something, you know, leave your mark. And people in the U.S. don't know how good they have it. I mean, I obviously lived in many different countries.

And for me, I think that's what's driven me and given me that hustler mentality. And I always say hustler. We're like, you know, that go-getter mentality. It's like you go out there and you don't know just how much opportunity there is. As long as you're willing to work for it and just go for it. There's so many ways that you can be successful and make money that you just, it's almost laughable to me sometimes that people complain. Like, even my own younger sister, she's, you know, she's 10 years younger. I mean, and in a way, she's been sort of sheltered because she grew up in Beverly Hills.

She went to Beverly Hills High School. You know, my mom was able to buy her a nice car when she was able to. You know, I didn't have any of that stuff. And, you know, I don't want to say, you know, she's gotten, you know, easy or anything. But, like, she definitely doesn't have the same drive and motivation as I do because I suffered. to get everything that I wanted to get. You're so right. You know.

I mean, it's funny because I get in trouble for this because I have very little sympathy for anybody living in the U.S. that's feeling sorry for themselves. They have so much opportunity. Because, I mean, even during those protests, we're like protesting the 1%. They don't realize if you're in the one, if you're protesting the 1%. If you're living in the U.S., you are in the 1% of the entire world. People just don't have the ability to think about it. Go live in another country.

It's not the same thing to go vacation in another country. Go live there. And then you'll see how much opportunities you have here. versus there. Yeah, they're complaining on their iPhone and their pickets, you know, as they're drinking their Starbucks. And it's like, listen, there's going to be people that ride in and give me flack for this. But it's true. Statistically, it's true. If you're in the United States and you're living here, you have so much opportunity, you have so much freedom. And you are in the 1% of the entire world. You can literally do anything. You can be anything. I mean,

if you're listening to this show, whether it's in your car or on your phone or on your computer, you know? What's the day in the life for each of you? Like, walk me, I want to know what time you guys wake up. I get obsessed with how successful people start their day. We never sleep. And I don't, I don't wish it to be. No, I look like you sleep. Thank you. I try. But it's, when you have two kids, I mean, it kicks your ass. Oh, sure. When we had one, one was manageable. One was like 50. Two is like 50. I swear to God. Well, let's be your first.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're in for a treat. So we wake up super early. I wake up probably like 6, 6.30 in the morning. If my son wakes up at the same time, I go, you know, grab him out of the crib. And my daughter. sleeps with my husband right now. She's going through this phase. And then I get her ready. I get her ready in the morning, which is a whole show on its own every morning.

She's got a lot of personality, and she's just very sassy and drama queen. So getting her ready, getting her downstairs. I wonder who she too got. Brushes her teeth, get her dress, bring her down, feed her just to make sure she eats because she just likes to play games with me. And then one of us usually takes her to school.

And then I get in the shower. I get ready. and then I go to my office. In between that, I'm checking emails, and then I go to my office. We work in the same building. And we sometimes do lunch, but lately we don't anymore

because he's just so, just doesn't have a good attitude lately. His business is just so busy and has a lot of his place. So it's like, we're both on our phones anyway, so I'm like, let's not do that. You've got to take her to lunch. I know.

Do you guys, I have, this is a quick side note tangent, just selfishly. Michael and I eventually want to get a building and work in the same building together. Did you guys buy a building and work together? Yeah. Have like an east of the West Wing or UBSS. Wings. Wings. Yes. That's what I want. That's the goal I want. Yeah. Don't be in each other's face because honestly, you want to miss each other. You want to go home and like feel like, oh my God, I've missed

you. Where have you been? I haven't seen your face. Yeah, I don't think we know. Not like you've been mean to me at lunch. We're self-aware enough to know. We couldn't work together in the same space for two long. We could do the show. This is why we like the show because we can come on and have these conversations together. How long is the show in the day? No, it's only a couple times a week and we only, we just. We just. No way. Six of these a month. That's it.

Oh, okay. So we have time. So, okay, so go on. So you guys are working together, but separately. Separately. We may do lunch. We may not. And then I come home usually earlier than him.

I either pick up one of the kids or I run a few errands. And then I come home, I figure out what we're going to eat, which is usually postmates. I wish I could cook in the next life, hopefully. Same. Yeah. I'm basically starving to death over here. So see. Fucking figure it out.

You know. I do other things, bitch. Exactly. That's fine. As long as those things are taking place, I'll figure out the food. You do other things too. We're busy. Exactly.

Exactly. I'm not sitting at home, going to my Pilates class, you know, shopping and then just being at home. So I'm not doing that. I'm doing a lot of stuff. Anyway, I come home and I spend time with the kids. We figure out what we're going to eat. And then we just wait for him to get home usually. Or if we have date night.

We try to do date night like once or twice a week. That's good. That's super important when you have kids. And if you ever do like couples dates, which we do that too, we always try. try to go again because we love being on time. We always go a little bit earlier so we can have a little bit of us time. We'll have a cocktail or something. And then the other couple will join us.

So we have that like a little bit of times together. That's very good idea. Yeah. Okay. And what's your morning? Yeah. My morning starts around 3, 4 a.m. Yeah.

I get up early. I don't want to sleep much. Yeah, he doesn't. Three or 4 a.m. And that's after me taking a bunch of melatonin, CBD oil, all kinds of stuff. We need some. What time's bedtime? My bedtime is about 10, 10, 30.

Okay. So I get about four or five hours asleep. Wow. You think it's going to be sustainable? It is. I've been like that all my life. Holy shit. Yeah, you know, my mind doesn't stop and I have to, that's the struggle, you know.

I mean, I'm so motivated. I suffer from too much motivation. He emails me in the middle and then I, like, he sounds being article. And I try to offload it on social media, you know, inspiring others and write codes. When did you start posting on social? So my sister. Yeah, her sister got us. Yeah, her sister got us.

But she's the one that got us on Instagram. I think five years ago or six years ago? No, no, I was longer. I don't know. I mean, when Instagram really started, she got us on Instagram, and she's like, you guys need to get on this. We're on Facebook. And MySpace on Facebook back then.

And she's like, this is like the hot new thing. You guys need to get on it. So she got us an account. And, I mean, how do we even start? I think we just started posting, like, our kids. No, we didn't have kids. What did we start posting? I posted my Bugadi.

No, you didn't have Bugatti back then. I did. I bought my Bugatti 2011. Really? Is that one Instagram? really started? I think so. Well, that's when we go.

So what was the initial goal? You just were posting for fun and now it's to inspire. Yeah, just share your story, you know, my success story, my struggles. And I realize so many immigrants are in this country and are going through the same journey I was going through, you know, when I was 16, 17, 18. And so they really connected, you know, with my story. And, you know, I've been in several, I mean, I've written two books on real estate and also shared my biography in those books.

So a lot of people, you know, probably so 100,000 plus copies. So, you know, I did have a little bit of fan base when I started my Instagram. My book came out in 2011. So long story short, my day starts at 3, 4 a.m. I get on social media, respond to some people. And then I do have a private Facebook group, which is my mentorship platform. So I respond and engage my members. A lot of them have real estate questions.

And then by about 5.36 a.m. I'll go down, get my first cup of coffee. You know, watch the news. see what's going on. Because I mean, real estate and real estate is driven by economy. Sure. So you've got to be, you know, semi-economist, you know, to be successful at timing the real estate, when to buy, when to sell. So, I mean, there's a series of channels and sites I watch religiously for the past 25 years.

When's the L.A. market going to soften up? Or he has. It's starting to, I think, a little bit. Yeah. So I do that. And then by 7 a.m., my personal trainer shows up. So we do a quick circuit training workout 30 to 40 minutes. And then I hit the sauna.

And then I usually take my daughter to a school and then get to office by about 9-10. And then at 9-10, I already have two or three meetings set up. From 9-10 to 11, I have meetings. And then I break for lunch at 11.30. And then do a couple of more meetings after lunch. And then I usually end up at my cigar lounge. I was going to say, then you go to Kavana. At 2.30, I go to Cigar Lunch, which is a gorgeous place I built on my marina,

right on the water. We have got to come next time we're in Newport Beach. I want to see it. It's in Newport? Yeah, it's got 21 boats, lips. Sounds beautiful. Amazing restaurants. You can't be a wrong smoke.

When I'm not pregnant. Yeah. I don't want to leave the house until I'm not done being pregnant so I can have wine. Yeah. In January. Oh, Capricorn? No way. I think Aquarius or Capricorn.

We don't know. We don't know. Capricorn's rule. They're good with numbers. Yeah. I'm not kidding you. Clearly. Clearly.

So that's about my day. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I do record. And then we have events, you know, different things, philanthropy, or just events that we need to go to. Sometimes we come to L.A. for different things. So those get added into it.

What's easier girl or a boy? Boy. God, everyone says that. Yeah. Everyone says that. At least our boy. Our daughter is a riot. She's just...

Yeah, she just started their own YouTube channel. Okay. So every day that he would take him to work, to her school, I guess she found out that he has this whole YouTube thing going on now. And so she's like, I want to have a YouTube channel. I want to open my toys. I want to do this. I want to make money. And she said she wants to make money. What do you guys expect that when YouTube breed together? That's all we talk about. She said something crazy the other day. I'm like, why don't you want to go to school? Because every day she argues with me. She says something like,

because I can't make money there. Like something to that effect, she told me. The teacher doesn't like make me make money. So she goes to the office with them on Saturday. It took me about 20 years to figure that out. Wait, let me ask you this. What's the ruling now? Because, you know, we're going to have to navigate this at some point. What's the ruling with social media and kids? Like, how do you?

We don't have her, like, on our... Specific. No, I mean, like, her specific... Like, is she allowed to go on Instagram or YouTube? No, no, no. YouTube for kids. It's just for YouTube. It's not on Instagram.

Okay. Yeah. And how old? What do you think? Do you think you'll let... Seven. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, we just literally launched it today. Like, he put the video up today. Yeah. I mean, I think if she wants to do it, and you guys are monitoring it. Right. I mean, I would record it. He's with her in the CEO.

It's an enormous amount of potential. I mean, there's kid Ryan's world. I heard he's made like $55 million last year. He's got toys, Colgate toothpaste. Yeah, but now the FTC is after them for not disclosing that they were like paid. The FTCs always. Why don't even they see people making money? It doesn't matter.

Look, first make the money, don't worry about it. Do it and I apologize later. Yeah. He'll settle that deal for about 10. 10% and keep me again. I want to talk about your beauty tips. Okay. First of all, I, like, you got to tell us how you look like this after two kids.

Thanks. Because you look like a 21 year old. Oh my God. I love you. Um, I don't always feel that way. Thank you for saying that. I think for me, it's just, I really try to follow a healthy lifestyle. Like, I don't really drink.

I don't smoke under drugs. I don't drink sodas. I don't go to Starbucks or anything. Like, I'm really healthy in that regard. I drink a lot of tea, as you can see. Yeah, well, you just put something in your tea. What was that? It's tiny.

It's Manuica. Honey. Yeah, she carries her own. I want to take a picture. Yeah, yeah, it's from Whole Foods. So you do your tea. She does her camel. How do you say it, Camel?

Well, I do decaf after like 10 a.m. Before 10 a.m. It's all caffeinated. And you do it with Manuka honey. I drink a lot of tea. I'm taking a picture of this. You guys, I'll put it on Instagram. But the real secret is she orders hot water with lemon.

Yeah, like tea and just hot water. I drink a lot of hot beverages. So one thing you should not do is drink a lot of cold beverages because it just like freezes. And that's what the restaurant cereal. I have like five cold beverages in front of me. Guys, okay. For us girls. For us girls. I'm fucked. I'm drinking like an ice coffee. Yeah. I know it's hot, but I'm always cold.

So for me, I like warm beverages. I would say just like not eating too late. And I don't like eat fast food. I don't, you know, I don't have like a sugar craving or anything. Do you have any cravings, by the way? I'm craving cereal, like healthy version of life cereal. It's Barbara's life cereal and then peaches. Do you mean right now when she's pregnant or just in general? You're not going to have any issues with gaining too much weight.

You're fine. You're going to be fine. When I left the hospital, I lost like 10 pounds immediately because it was the baby, the placenta, you know, all that. So for me, like, honestly, I just stayed really active. I was working nonstop. And I just, I was very mindful of what I was eating, what I was putting in my body. And the other days is a typical breakfast for you? Oatmeal with lots of chia seeds, hemp milk.

Okay. Lots of fruits, whatever fruit I have at the time, cinnamon. I eat a lot of spices like tamaric black pepper cinnamon things like that I just discovered tahin which is like heaven I put that shit on everything now I discovered it in Mexico anyway lunch is I mean I always eat out I wish I could cook I make eggs really well she does actually on my highlight story

I think I've seen your highlight story of eggs it's like a Persian style It's like the best nobody can beat me in that If you can make a couple like three or four good dishes That's all you need I mean that's all you need honestly Seriously. And they just, like, for me, eggs is easy because you can literally throw anything in it and it's good. I eat a lot of eggs. That's my other secret. Okay. I eat like three eggs a day. And not a lot of alcohol you said. You're not a big alcohol. Like once or twice a week, I'll have a cocktail or a wine or something. I don't like how I feel like while I'm drinking or the next day. I just don't like, you know. Well, if Mammy's waking up at 3 a.m., I mean, you can't be drinking alcohol, waking up to 3 a.m. And we have kids. Like, no matter what, they're going to wake our asses up. So it's not going to be fun the next day. Yeah, I'm cutting back on. alcohol too because, you know, every time I go to smoke a cigar, I have a little of scotch, sometimes red wine and it adds up, right?

And then it does, you know. It just slows you down. I don't like anything that slows me down. I want to be on my A game all the time. What are some of your beauty tips, like your skin secrets or I know everyone's going to want to know what lashes you're wearing? I'm wearing Lily lashes. Okay.

That's what I thought. Not just because she's my really pretty lashes. They're amazing. Yeah. Her lashes are just so glam. I love skin better now. My aesthetician cat, she turned me onto it and it's amazing. It's by the same founders of Allergan, and it's just really medical-grade good stuff.

I use that right now. I use charcoal toothpaste. I don't know. And your hair. What are your beauty routine? Wait, wait, wait. Wait, we got to talk. Don't fuck with the hair.

I need to talk about that. I was going to ask you. He has a beauty routine. Yeah. Whatever my life gets here. He has a good hair. Yeah. I can't stop stirring you.

I got some hair. Your hair takes 45 minutes to do every morning in your separate bathroom. No way. So, Hairdamin is a natural supplement, and it helps grow your hair longer and thicker. Doesn't look like you needed, but... I used to have hair down here. It was really strange, though. That's what I've been taking.

My hair is just growing like crazy right now. I had this hair. And that's the one I've been taking the mom one. So there's Hairdaman mom, which is a prenatal, postnatal, and hair vitamin. Okay. When you, I mean, I don't know if you've experienced hair shedding yet, but you may. Not yet. What is it going to shed?

I did with my son, with my second pregnant. And your hair is just naturally like that. It's just, I mean, my hair has always been good, but it's never been like this. and people don't believe that it is all my hair because it just looks like a big, like crazy set of extensions. And also I have a hair extension line so I understand like why people could get confused.

But I do multiple videos. I show like basically my scalp. And somebody will say, I see some tracks in there. I'm like, I swear. Like what else do I need to do? In the background behind there, there's this one thing that I saw.

I'm like, here's like a full video unedited. You got to show your scalp. I have a confession. I'm wearing extensions. I knew it. He looks like you're wearing a too pay today. Thank you. You know, like I said, I had it down here.

And the reason I cut it is Lauren and I were at, we were eating at a bar one time and I was behind. And the guy walked in a busy guy, here's your pizza ladies. And I saw it, I was like, fuck this hair to cut it right off. So that's it. That's a good reason. Yeah, I had to cut it out. But one time we were at a restaurant, a girl walked up to you and pull your hair, right?

No, no. So I've had like, you know, girls sometimes, like, you know, pretend like they're being like fake nice. And they'll be, hey, babe, babe, how are you? and they'll put their hand behind your head to like say hello like to bring you close but meanwhile she's like feeling my scalp and yeah could you imagine nothing to hide but my fall i can't imagine fuck nothing shocks me that's so bad that's that's aggressive yeah do you guys like living in orange county i love it like this it's the best place to raise a family in my opinion we live in the

best part of california in my opinion it's just so beautiful so serene it's like resort living and there's no traffic, there's no crazy drivers, there's no potholes. You don't get a ticket for jaywalking like I used to here or parking your, turning your wheels the wrong way. Like you don't get any of that crap in Orange County. And people are just more relaxed. Yeah, I feel like we need to go look down there. So many people are buying second homes down there.

Yeah, maybe, Michael. You know, because we grew up in San Diego, which there's some pockets of San Diego that are also kind of calm and quiet. But coming up here, I always felt I wanted to get out because it was too slow. And now I'm here. I'm like, oh, shit. Now I kind of want to reverse. So, like, oh, it was grass is greener.

But I think next like two, three years here, and then we'll probably start figuring out where we want to end up. I think you're single or you don't have kids. You need to be in L.A. If you're an entrepreneur and you're going after all that. But once you're settled down, Orange County is the place. Life's too short. You want to get to a point in your life where, you know, you want to enjoy life to, right? I mean, hustling is good, but not all your life.

What are some health and wellness things that each of you guys do on a daily basis or once a week or just stuff that you do for yourself for self-care? I get a lot of massages because I suffer from neck and shoulder pain. So that for me is really helpful. And I just started working out twice a week. I'm very proud of that. Yeah. I go to my chiropractor usually once a week, if not at least once every two weeks.

Get adjustment. They have a muscle sters, you know, relax your body. And then I work out five days a week. And you said sauna. Yeah, sauna every day. We need to get a sauna. Is it in the house? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We built it. It was a third closet. He was supposed to turn that into his mini. closet because I wanted both closets. She wanted to take the entire closets both of them.

He wants to take the entire closet for me. We don't, no, we don't need that. I would rather, if you want to put in a sauna, I'm down for the sauna. Okay. Well, I'd do a lot of benefits to sauna. Try to do an infrared. We didn't do the infrared. We wish you'd say. Infrared is overrated. But, you know, the other thing is to, every morning

when I turn the shower on, I get right on it. You know, it's cold. There's a cold shower in the morning. That first 30 seconds, it really wakes you up. You know, it's kind of like doing a mini cold plunge, if you want to call it. So I do that every day. Every day I do that and try it. At first, you're going to cuss, you know?

I think people should seek out discomfort every day. I think, like, actively seek out discomfort. I think it's such a minute. Like, people, when I get up at five and I'll go and run outside and be cold, right? Like, the problem is, is people, everyone's working for comfort. They want to be comfortable. And I think, like, human beings are meant to struggle. It's what keeps you sharp.

It keeps you on point. There's so many people like-growth. It kills it. And so I think, like, even little things like that, jumping in a cold shower, or going outside when it's cold or getting up. or getting up when it's dark or like moving your phone across the room so you're forced to get out of bed when you don't want. Like some of the things are important. I actually do that when I go to a store.

I always park my car further so I can get that. I do that too. Get the extra steps in. And my house now, we have stairs to our master bedroom and I'm constantly going back up and down and I love it. And we have an elevator. Obviously I don't use the elevator, but that really helps. So just be. I'd love an elevator and a sauna.

Okay. We use that for our luggage. Mani, what is your book about? Your books. So my books. My first book, Contrariam Playbook. How to build your $100 million real estate portfolio is mainly about real estate. I have built my wealth through real estate investing.

And then the second one is more about biography. Driven is really my mindset. You know, I'm a very driven guy. You know, throw me in any situation. I'll figure it out one way or another. Of course, I sure. There's some family pictures in there too. Yeah, I share Layla, my kids.

For young people starting out right now, if they're thinking about real estate, like, I mean, the landscapes change. It's obviously a little bit, it's different than when you started. where would you suggest they look, residential, commercial? Is it a single-family home? Definitely multi-family, like complex, five, breaks, four-plakes. But real estate is all about timing, you know? If you bought any real estate in 2007, you would have to wait 10 years to get your equity back.

But if you threw a dart up in 2011, it landed on any property. You would have doubled your money, right? So it's all about 99% is timing. One percent is preparation. So be prepared. Make sure you qualify, save your money. get all your ducks in a row and then wait for recession, you know, when you see foreclosures left and right. I actually invested with him too. I left that part. Yeah. So I took some of my deal or no

deal money and invested in a commercial property with him in Texas. Smart. Yeah. You guys are a smart, sharp couple. I like it. Thank you. I mean, you don't see a lot like you guys. This is a power couple. Thank you. What is a book, a resource, or a podcast that you guys would recommend to our audience that's brought you a lot of value? It could be even a Netflix show. I mean, it could be anything. It could be anything. Well, early on, I mean, I read Trump's book, you know, the art of the deal, and I loved how to negotiate. You know, you make your money on the buy in real estate. And I loved all these tactics, negotiation, you know, went after properties that were now loved and attractive and then add value and boom, made a killing on him. So that to me, like, you know,

always, you know, I always go back to that when I want to negotiate or find a property. When I was younger, I was just obsessed with reading successful people's story. I think one of my favorite books was about Larry Ellison, the founder of Oracle. I read his book, Martha Stewart's book before she went to jail. And like the rich dad poured that. I read all of that. Think and Grow Rich. That was one of the first books. Napoleon Hill. Now I'm more just online sources. There's a really great indie beauty news site called Beauty Independent. I think they have really great articles for indie beauty brands. And so I read that a lot. What's next for both of you guys? We want to travel more. Where do you want to go? Everywhere. You

guys were in Greece. Yes. Yeah, but she wants to travel like literally she wants to move to Monaco for two years. That's where Ingrid lives. That's why I want you to be in- Yeah, that's why she has the same energy as you. Next year will go. That's where she lives. Yes. Does she have kids? She has three kids. I'll connect you guys on Instagram. Monaco's amazing to live. Yeah, we went for Formula One. We went to Nise. I mean, it doesn't have to be permanent. Like, I would love to live there. The whole coast. For like three years, two years, whatever. Like, learn French. I mean, I have some French background being in Canada, but like, imagine just being in a place like that and just everything that you can be exposed to and just a

different life. And it's, it's amazing. I mean, you can't, you can't beat it. And every time I go there, too, I say to Michael, like, why I don't understand why we don't live here half the year. And yeah, I don't understand. And when most of my work is on the phone and the computer, you can do it anywhere. And also, I think it shows movement, too. Nowadays, like, people are so into experience. and movement and it's not, you know, about all the stuff, but it's more about getting out there and experiencing different new situations. Opens your eyes too because you see things you don't see here, right? Okay, so how about when you guys moved to Monaco, we move too?

Because I would like, I've actually proposed that to you. I'm still in that phase where I can go somewhere for like three weeks and then I get the itch. I'm like, I got to get back to my house. I got to get going to get going. I'm the same way. I can't. I can't.

Okay. So Lauren and I will hang out. We'll wait for you guys. Go come back. But you could think of it from. a business perspective. Like you can go over there. So here she's got the hard sale going now.

You know what I love about it? It's that you are so close to so many different countries there. Like here, if I want to travel with my kids, it's a pain in the ass. Like we don't take our kids over to Europe. We go to Cabo because it's so close. It's a pain to travel with little children. Yeah, we went to Dubai. We paid for it for a year.

Our daughter never slept the same ever since then. Why? Because the time difference is such a bitch. It's 16 hours. And for some reason that you don't get back to normal. Like for us, it took us like over a week to get back to normal. Imagine kids. That's interesting.

I never thought about that. Anyway, if you live somewhere like, Monaco, you're so close to all these other incredible countries that you can go see. Don't you want your kid to know French? So you got the hard, she's got the hard sale going now. You don't want the kid to be bilingual? Hello? Or trilingual? Yeah, trilingual.

I think it's that one. Well, now that you say it. Learn Mandarin, like go live in Japan even or China or whatever. What's the big deal? We can podcast there. We can blog there. I was saying if I was smart, we would just go, we would go to a place like that, we would just do this podcast, chill, relax. I just don't have it in me.

I got to keep, I got to keep pushing there. We'll talk about it. Well, start taking vacations there and just extend your vacation a little bit at a time and just get a feel for it. You are right, though, about the taxes. You could go there and maybe work half as hard and still make just as much. Yeah. Especially here in California. Exactly.

I think it's good. What's next for you, Manny? For me? Well, I want to inspire millions of people. and already I get for past like two, three years, I've been kind of mentoring people by DM, but now I just started my platform in May this year. So I have 800 plus people on the platform. And I love it. You know, it's like giving back and really, you know, when I was doing my real estate investing 25 years ago, I didn't have anybody to tell me, hey, don't get a hard money

on this property, you know, the interest is going to kill you and the economy is not a right time to buy it. And I've made so many mistakes, right? So I love giving back and seeing people's respond, you know, a year later. They sent me a gift, box of cigar, say, hey, I just flipped my foreplics, thanks to you. I was going to buy a single family. You told me buy a fourplex. That's got rents below market. Put a new landscape and I bumped up the rent and I flipped it. I made $180 grand, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I love listening, hearing that stuff, you know. So I guess just giving back more, you know, we just pledged a million dollars to chalk hospital at their autism center. Wow. So we're doing more and more philanthropy.

That's cool, you guys. We don't talk about some of this stuff, but... But everybody keeps hating on us, like, every time I buy it in you, like, I got a fourth Bugatti coming or third Bugatti coming. That's your business, though. You're like, oh, you're buying all these cars. You know how many people you could feed. But we give back so much to charities.

But if you post it, they want to say you're, you know, nobody cares about charity, but few that do. I think we really need to start posting more about that. I mean, it's not my personality to, like, you know, go over with things like that. I mean, you do it from your heart. I'm on the board for the Chalk Children's Hospital as well. and we meet monthly and there's different events that we do for the hospital and we just did this

million dollar pledge. But it's like, you know, people do like seeing that. So in a way, you are inspiring people by doing that. So it's not like you're showing off what you're doing. It's really you're trying to inspire. And so if we're posting our vacation, I think we need to also post some of our philanthropic efforts. But the main thing, though, is that you can do both. And I think the people that sit there and judge, you know, it's like, what are you doing?

What are you contributing? Like, come on. And it's usually people that are not doing anything. Yes. And they're just passing judgment. Yeah. Yeah. I mostly just hit block.

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