The Bossticks - How To Instantly Change Your State Of Mind, Tap Into Your Power, & Use Sound To Heal & Thrive Ft. Soaak
Episode Date: July 19, 2024#728: Today we're sitting down with Henry Penix and Laura Widney, founders of Soaak Technologies. Soaak uses clinically curated compositions designed to impact the body at a cellular level, targeting ...specific wellness outcomes like reduced anxiety, depression and stress, and improved sleep, mental clarity, and focus. Many listeners may be familiar with sound frequencies such as 528 HZ, 40 HZ, & 432 HZ but they may not be aware of the powere behind these sound frequencies and how they can litereally alter your life. To connect with Soaak click HERE To connect with Henry Penix click HERE To connect with Laura Widney click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn's favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. This episode is brought to you by Soaak. Go to soaak.com/skinny and use code SKINNY at checkout to get your first month free. Produced by Dear Media
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She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire.
Fantastic.
And he's a serial entrepreneur.
A very smart cookie.
And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride.
Get ready for some major realness.
Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
We did a lot of research in clinic and we did a lot of clinical trials and studies to where we said,
okay, we're going to put these frequency compositions together and let's let our customers test them.
So you take all the scientific studies, put them in there, and then you do in clinic trials,
you do things like that. And finally you get down to, okay, it's these. Like, these are the main ones.
And that's how we put together the compositions. And every composition is different, obviously.
One thing about me that I am so passionate about spreading everywhere is frequencies.
I came across frequencies, God, I want to say like five years ago.
And they really changed my life. And not only have they changed my life, they changed Michael's
life. And I think like added so much to my kids' life. So I talk about them all the time. I talk
about them on the podcast to friends. And if you don't know what a frequency is, we're going to
get into it in this episode. So what I wanted to do in this episode is I wanted to talk to frequency
experts. So I had been using this app called Soak Technologies, and I connected with them, and I decided
to have them on the podcast. And basically this episode is going to show you guys all of the amazing
things that frequencies can do. So what I've noticed, especially not only do I play them at night,
sometimes I play them while I'm working, I play them in the car, and they just get you in a really
healthy state of mind. So we sat down with the founders of Sok, Henry Pennex, and Laura Woodley,
and we just asked them every single question about how to use frequencies to improve your sleep,
mental clarity, your focus, all the things. I am obsessed with learning about this. I think it's
so interesting. I think you guys are going to love this. And this is something that anyone who is
listening can apply to their own life. I liked it so much that we actually added
a soak frequency to this episode. So as you're listening to the episode, you will be able to absorb
the benefit of the frequency, even though you don't actually hear it. So we laid the podcast with a
track of frequencies. It's really cool. I think everyone is going to be obsessed with frequencies
after this if you're already not. On that note, let's talk to the founders of Soak Technologies.
This is the skinny confidential, him and her.
How come it took me 35 years to even know about frequencies?
I didn't, am I the only one out there?
Am I the only guy that didn't know about frequencies?
I feel like it took me until I was 35 to even know that these existed.
Yeah.
And interestingly enough, frequencies have been around since time because everything emits
a frequency.
But it's only been lately that all the supercomputing and everything like that has caught up,
quantum computing has caught up and been able to actually condense these and offer them to
humans for specific outcomes.
Okay.
So they're just here now where the delivery method is such that you can get your
specific outcome.
But they've always been here, but now we can get them.
Frequencies have always existed.
It's an ancient thing, but with modern technologies.
Okay.
So for my first question then, for people that are listening that were like me and
are like, what in the heck is a frequency?
High level, how would you describe it?
So a frequency is an actual specific, specific mega hurt.
A frequency can be one specific number, like 432 hertz, is a very popular frequency.
So it's an actual megahertz.
So what's happening is the frequency is oscillating.
So it's an energetic oscillation that's making it oscillate at a certain frequency.
So when our frequencies are out of balance, our energy is actually oscillating.
Not good.
It's chaotic.
And so frequencies make our cells oscillate at a certain tone or megahertz.
So that's one thing that we have done so much research on for,
our clinic is what megahertz affect what body functions, yes. And so that's how we developed
our frequency compositions is saying, okay, the heart has a certain frequency, the skin has a certain
frequency, your stress can make you have a certain frequency. And so our frequency compositions
are megahertz that are basically, if you've heard a sympathetic resonance, you can have a tuning
fork that you hit it and it vibrates at a certain frequency. And then another tuning fork that
has not been hit, you put them together, and then this one starts resonating at the same as this
one. And so it's sympathetic resonance. So our body and our energy bodies do the same thing
with the world around us. And so the frequencies from Sok, they encourage yourselves to oscillate
at that certain frequency. So if you have that chaotic vibration going on, your system, your whole
system calms down. And so it's a wave. It's a waveform. And so everything is a frequency.
How are you guys just sitting around one day?
You're on your porch saying, I know, let's get into frequencies.
Yeah, so growing out of a clinic about eight, nine years ago, we had different modalities.
We had MDs, we had technicians, we had nurse practitioners, and they started getting really, really good results with a more holistic approach to specific outcomes that the body would need.
So if you came in and you were showing symptoms of anxiety,
or whatever, depression, we would start to feel out which frequencies would actually counteract
that, to make that oscillation more true in your body.
And when we started getting better outcomes than other things like IV therapy, you know,
different things we would do in the clinic, she actually came to me and said, this is a great idea.
I'm more on the business side.
She's more on the clinic side.
But she said, can't we get this out to people like all over the world and how could we do it?
And that's kind of how it started.
So we took something that was very successful in clinic and was able to get the same clinical efficacy through your phone.
But how did you guys know to use it in clinic to begin with?
And are you guys actually doctors in clinic?
What's the context before?
Like how did you even know to use that?
More med scientist than anything that, yeah.
For sure.
Well, so the backstory, long story short, I had a friend that was a naturopathic doctor and I was just super interested in what she did.
and she used frequency medicine in different forms.
There's tinctures, there's sound, there's all kinds of different ways you can use frequency medicine.
And so I got into that.
Me and her basically went into business together.
And I had him kind of helping me with the business part.
And I'm not a practitioner, which I actually love that fact because I come into what I do very, I'm non-biased.
I'm a user.
I'm a customer.
And so anytime I make any decisions, it's from the user's perspective and the customer's perspective.
And it's not like, you have to do it this way because I'm a customer.
This was my training sort of thing.
And so she used frequency therapy.
And so when I kind of got into that with her, I was like, oh, this is incredible.
Like, why isn't the world using this?
Because it doesn't have to go through your digestive track.
It, you know, there's so many amazing benefits and it's non-invasive to the body.
And it works so well.
And it's a lot less expensive than natural medicine, which is not covered by insurance.
And so that was why I was like, oh, we have to get this in an app.
And so we started doing it in clinic more and more.
And it was just, it was so great.
It worked so well for people and people of all ages.
And so that's when I started kind of barking at him.
I'm like, we got to put, we got to make this digital.
Where did frequencies like originate?
Well, some of the earliest writings that I found and studied was the Egyptian.
So the pyramids actually had frequency rooms in them.
And that's where they, if somebody was sick, they would take them in the room.
So it was built to actually have a certain vibration in like a vortex.
when you walk into the room.
And so they would place people in these rooms for,
I don't know how long, maybe 30 minutes, maybe an hour,
and it would heal their ailments.
And so that was one of the earlier historical things that we can read about.
But I think it's way before that, I'm sure,
that people would build actual rooms
that had certain energy vortexes in them.
And that is frequencies.
And so now we have the benefit of having technology
be able to deliver those same,
frequency sounds through an app.
Again, for people that are maybe not as familiar,
the way that I got turned on to frequencies in the first place,
when Lauren started playing frequencies, was it 5-28?
Is that the one you started playing?
In our house when we would go to sleep, right, and to calm down.
But then I also, people like Andrew Huberman have talked about using 40 hertz
when you need to focus and study or when you're working intensely.
And I started just listening to the, you know, I'd go to playlist and find it.
But scientifically speaking, how do these frequencies kind of change,
the way we think or how do they put us into a relaxation?
Like what is it actually physically or, you know, doing to our brains?
I kind of liken this to a square tire.
So when you're depressed, when you have anxiety, when you're not focused, ADD, ADHD, things like that,
it's like you're you have this square tire and you're clunking along and something's just not right.
You're not maximized. You're not optimized.
And when you start listening to these frequencies and remember, these are frequency compositions.
And so we may have 528 in our composition.
We may have 432.
It may start out with the first four or five frequencies and build to 15 or 20 as you're listening to this 20-minute track.
All designed to hit the symptoms that you've come to us for.
So we want to make sure that we're not leaving anything out.
And because they're adaptive in nature, you've heard of adaptogenics.
They will give you your body what it needs.
And you can't have too much or too few.
So in this composition, that's where she,
became so successful is it would hit, like if you came in for depression, there's three or four
different areas of the body that need to be touched and looked at to find out why that actually
occurred in your body. So we can, we put all those together and when it hits that particular
note, it makes that square tire round and you actually feel it. And the, the things you used
about sympathetic resonance in the tuning fork, we play you a frequency that's under
relenting, it can't change. But your frequencies can because you've got mind,
will, and emotions. So if you're listening to this, you're that other tuning fork that's
going to change. Huh. So like last night I have PMS, I'm tired, I don't feel good,
and I put on your anti-anxiety one. That frequency knew that I didn't feel good is what you're
saying. Right. Well, you came to it first and said, I may be anxious. So we've got 30 frequencies
and we do female hormone support.
We've got depression, we've got anxiety.
PMS.
Which one you want?
Yeah, there's actually a PMS frequency.
I should have put that one.
Anti-anxiety was good though because I was having a little bit of anxiety.
So that frequency knew how to tune to what I was feeling.
If you presented the problems of being anxious, you would pick the anti-anxiety and listen to it.
And one of the 10, 15, 20 frequencies that are in that composition would have found exactly what was off in you.
and balance that tire out.
And how do you know which frequency,
and again, some of my questions may sound ignorant
because I'm stumbling into this new world?
No, no, no, it's fine.
How do you know which number frequency
makes sense for whatever ailment or issue
that you're going through?
Yeah, that's a great question.
So a lot of it is tons and tons of research.
There is all of the research out there,
a book this thick.
Royal Rife was one of the people
who actually put this on paper
and was like, hey, this is this frequency.
This organ is associated with this frequency.
And so there's all that information that we had to take.
And then I took it to our practitioners.
And I said, we need to make specific frequencies for the most common ailments, like PMS.
That's why we have a PMS sport because that's like every woman.
And anxiety, stress, depression.
We have a sexual frequency for male and female.
And so we did a lot of research in clinic.
And we did a lot of clinical trials and studies to where we said,
okay, we're going to put these frequency compositions together and let's let our customers test them.
And so we got a lot of feedback.
I mean, this was like three, four years of feedback before we actually launched the app.
That's why when we have our 30 frequencies, we're like, these are amazing.
Yeah, it's kind of like a funnel.
So you take all the scientific studies, put them in there, and then you do in clinic trials,
you do things like that.
And finally you get down to, okay, it's these.
Like these are the main ones.
And that's how we put together the compositions.
And every composition is different, obviously.
Do you find that more people are open and more intuitive to this?
Because if you asked me when I learned about a frequency,
you're not going to believe what I would say.
I would say when I was born.
I don't know why I say that,
but I knew what a frequency was.
I can't remember how I even found out about it.
But I almost didn't know how to explain it.
I feel like it was an intuitive thing in my body.
And I see the same thing in my daughter.
there's something intuitive about the frequency.
Do I sound crazy?
No, yes.
That's totally correct.
Is it something we're like born with?
I think, yes, for sure we are.
But I think a lot of times we're not educated, for one, about frequencies.
It is really so common and foundational for our world.
But I think another thing is, you know, when people are very sensitive energetically,
that's when that's probably how you are just very sensitive to the things around you.
So you can tell that, you know, maybe when you get in an argument, that is a frequency.
And the emotion that is rising in you when you have that argument, it is the frequency
and it is your energetic, it's your energy body changing and you actually tangibly feel that
chemical emotion.
But it all starts with that energetic change, which is frequency.
And so I can back any conversation.
I can back anything back to it's a frequency thing.
It's an energy thing, which comes from a mind thing.
And so I think, you know, just being aware from a young age is just you're more sensitive.
And some people are just very turned off to their emotions, which is energy and that whole thing.
So I think everybody's just different, but some people are so sensitive.
I do notice, and we talked about this off air, that there was a shift in the frequency of the world during the pandemic.
The frequency to me felt obviously like really contentious and angry and lonely.
and I feel like the people that I saw that really sort of like made it through positively
had almost like a different dimension of frequency.
And I think I think it like opened up people's eyes to what's out there if they were
closed off to the intuitive area of the frequency.
Does that make sense?
Yes, 100%.
Have you guys noticed that the app did better after the pandemic because of that?
1,000%.
That's when we got our first and second contract with U.S. Air Force.
I mean, there's very smart minds out there saying, along with you can search this up, but
along with a lot of really deep thinkers and world leaders that are saying frequencies will be
the 21st century medicine.
You know, it's funny.
We'll look back and see how archaic this was of taking these pills and doing it.
And I'm not against that.
Like, if you need it, great.
I'm not hating on anybody.
You know, fantastic.
But why wouldn't you take something that's non-evasive and immediately accessible to you?
Yeah.
I mean, I think what's happened, technology has moved so fast.
over the last 200 years or so that we've gotten so far away from what's natural.
And so a lot of people that were closed off and I've been one of those people,
I think what happens, you just get so disconnected from what your human nature is.
Does that make sense?
Right, yeah.
And so like now I grow up that way.
I mean, you got 30 some odd years of not knowing about it.
And like you said, you just stepped into it.
Yeah.
And now after having so many of these conversations and seeing people that have had results like
this on the podcast and talking to people that have gotten closer,
to maybe how we evolved.
Now it's kind of undeniable to me, right?
And like, I'll go to bed now and I'll put the frequencies on it.
And immediately shifts the, you know, the energy of the household.
But I was just unaware of all this stuff for so long.
And I think a lot of the listeners that are like, what the hell are these people talking about?
I think they just have to be open to thinking like, oh, these things have been here for
thousands and thousands of years and people have utilized them, but maybe we've just forgotten.
Does that make sense?
Anyone who is listening to this right now that feels like what are they talking about, I don't understand.
I would encourage them to go put one on and see how you feel inside.
You will feel it.
You feel it in your gut immediately.
You feel it in your gut.
And I know this because my husband was a little bit blocked off.
But once it cracked the egg open, you now totally get it and you're on board every single night.
Yeah, no, I mean, like I said, I can't, even when we travel, we'll put them on and just like have them in the background. And when I fly now, I use them when I can. Right. And it's, it's funny because it's almost like, like I said, it's this thing that maybe you didn't know about or forgot about. But as soon as it's reintroduced to you and you see how you feel, it's primal. It's kind of like, I don't want to live without it now. Well, yeah. And think about when you're a baby and you read all these studies about how if you play classical music while you're pregnant and all this stuff, like this is so calming to the baby. What do you think it's calming?
because that's a frequency.
That sound is a frequency.
And so that's the primal nature of it.
Now you bring it all the way today with quantum computing
that can actually measure energy field.
So, you know, before, well, you've got bad energy.
What does that mean?
You know, like, what is that?
But when you walk in a room,
certain people can walk in a room and change that room
because they've got a certain energy, right?
So recently I read an article,
and I don't know where to quote this from,
but I know it's out there.
we see so much information every day, but there's actually skiff. They call them skiffs. And that's something that's a military term. You go in this enclosed capsule like thing, this room, and there can be no frequencies in there ever. Like you can't get any type of frequency in there, no cell phone, no anything. Well, people got in there. They put like eight people in there. And they could measure from the outside using quantum computing exactly what those people were feeling inside the skisks.
gift with nothing else. They could say that person's feeling depression, that person's kind of
high energy, that person's being very anxious right now, and it would hit it 100%. So we could measure,
what's the energy feel now? We could measure it's like six. Maybe eight feet, yeah. But if you're a
really big personality, it's bigger. Is that weird that like when you say that? Like, I feel like,
I feel like that's what we do for a living is measure the energetic frequency of the guest.
Right. Yeah. That's exactly right. Measure and math.
match. It's why we refuse to do this not in person.
Yeah. It's like a frequency. Which I love that. It's like a frequency dance. It's not the same
thing. We've done a few where we've had some guests that insist on, especially during the
pandemic. And I'm not going to say which ones people have to dig for it. But go back and you
will see the frequency is not quite. It's not there. That's one reason we were so excited to do
this is because we've done a lot of podcasts, but the chemistry is so different. It's so much better
when you're in person.
And it is a frequency thing.
I think this type of thing,
sitting down,
speaking to someone,
looking in your eyes,
like that,
this is a primal thing,
right?
You kind of need to feed off
the person's energy.
We've gotten,
again,
like you use all these.
It's also,
and listen,
some of the team didn't like this,
but I was like,
we got to also get back in the office
and be around each other at times
because you need,
I think you need that interaction.
It's also why during the pandemic,
I think we were so charged up
because you move all of that
and you put,
whatever behind screens.
Yes.
You know, it's lonely.
Yeah.
Talk to us about the US Air Force.
You mentioned that.
Why?
How does the US Air Force reach out to you?
And what does it look like implementing your technologies with them?
So we went through two phases with them.
Phase one was, can this even be a thing for the Air Force?
And the Air Force specifically reached out to us.
We went through this entire program.
And so we studied for about a year.
And could this really be for you?
and the answer was yes. After the study, the answer was yes. Then we went for a phase two,
they call it, which was a much larger contract, a lot more things involved. And they said,
okay, you've done it. Now you need a customer in somewhere in the military, Department of Defense,
DOD, which our customer now is the Pentagon. And we said, okay, now that we can use it.
So that was an interesting. Now that we can use it. Yeah, you get into classified, unclassified,
different clearances and things like that. But we find.
Finally, we got that.
And now they're saying, okay, it works.
We know that it's going to be great.
We're going to train pilots for mission readiness.
There's a lot of stuff going on in the world.
I mean, I obviously can't get way into that at all.
People need help.
Like everybody needs that.
But it's not just the person in the fighter jet.
It's their family that's worrying about the person in the fighter jet.
So it's that frequency.
It's that energy.
It's that can you calm them down?
Can you make them less anxious?
Can you make them less depressed?
And that's the beauty of our program because they can go anywhere.
So is that what the military is hoping this program will accomplishes that you will help them be less stressed, be more calm?
It's specifically our goal is to make pilots ready for mission readiness. So that means if you get a phone call tonight and says in 24 hours, you got to ship out and you're going to go on a mission that's going to take you out for three or four days.
And when you're on your way to that mission, you're going to fly for eight to 10 hours and you may have two or three hours to rest.
So when you're resting, what kind of sleep are you going to get?
So our frequency for sleeping is our number one played frequency right now.
So they would listen to that to get nice REM sleep and get their body repaired and healed and then take off again.
And when they're going, you know, when they take off again, they can listen to the high energy, high vibrations to ramp up the cells to go in to do the mission.
Interesting.
Ramp up the cells.
Talk to us about that and the science behind ramping up the cells.
So it's the square tire around tire.
It's it's you're a little wonky.
You've been on the field for 18 hours, 20 hours, you're war out.
You know, you feel it when you guys have been traveling a long way, especially internationally,
and you're just not there.
Yeah.
That's a cellular breakdown.
So when you listen to certain frequencies that counteract that, it'll start ramping them back up
and pouring a little gas on the fire, and it makes things much better.
I think that it's also important to talk about how not all frequencies are created equal.
Like, you don't want to just go on Spotify and search something.
And maybe you guys could talk to us a little bit about we don't know what people are putting in them.
How are our soak frequencies created when you guys talked about kind of taking you through different ones? How do you guys think about creating them?
Yeah. Well, I'll kind of go back to the example of music. So earlier, you were talking about how do people know what this is or what the heck is a frequency? And so we always say it's like music like you're listening to heavy metal versus classical. It evokes a response in you.
That is a frequency, and it's just the most tangible way for us to explain what a frequency is.
And so different types of music, you listen to workout music right before you go work out because it ramps up the cell,
exactly like our energy hype vibrations music.
And so that is something that we all understand.
I actually don't think Lauren does.
She puts on Spanish guitar from when we go to this late.
Because I'm low frequency.
It is a little bit.
Because we're going to get to that.
I'm going to tell that story.
I don't want to listen to gangster rap when I'm lifting weights.
Listen, a little, a little, I need my frequency to be lowered to Spanish guitar.
Maybe we could settle on rock.
This is the wrong two people.
Well, okay, listen, well, we have guitar behind all of our frequencies, so you might really love this.
Have you ever tried to deadlift 200 pounds with Spanish guitar?
No, I'm not going to be listening to like some of the stuff that people listen to in the gym.
It's like, I don't want techno music.
That's the frequency is off with that.
But maybe like rock or something.
Anyways, that's the perfect example, though, if you have to have a certain noise to make
you do your objective. And so that is how we thought about when we created the frequencies is
what's our outcome, what's our objective. So, you know, PMS, we talked about earlier. You know,
specifically you have certain things going on. You're moody. You're depressed. You're cramping.
Your physical body is hurting. You have all of these symptoms going on. And so when we create the
frequencies, we're writing down our objective first. Our objective is to alleviate these certain
symptoms. Okay. So, you know, what do we, how can we do that? We have to take these maybe
hundred frequencies and we whittle them down to, we're going to take care of absolutely anything
and everything that might help with all of these symptoms. Because again, the frequencies are
only, they're only doing what, your body's only taking what you need. And so because they are
frequencies, because your cells are oscillating at a certain frequency and our frequencies
are unrelenting, if your body doesn't need it, it's not going to do anything.
at all. You're just going to hear, you're just going to hear it. But if your body needs it,
that's the cells, the oscillating cells that are kind of out of whack. They're going to start
slowly oscillating at that same frequency. And at that moment, which usually takes a couple
minutes when you're listening, it's that moment where you take a big deep breath. It's almost like
you're really hot and you took a big drink of water and that feeling of like refreshing. That's
what you feel like when you listen to the frequencies, which you guys know because you listen
to them. So it's your cells basically align.
and you can feel that in your physical body.
So even pain support, you can feel the pain.
And working out, like you can actually, with our dual audio now,
you can play the frequency behind your tunes.
So you could actually have a frequency program behind the tune that TurboTri-
That's our favorite feature.
Yes, yes, and there's more.
And podcasts, people can be listening to this podcast right now
and listening to a frequency.
Yeah, that was one of her very big.
So can we pad the podcast with the frequency.
Yes.
You can have this playing right now behind it,
and you can add this when your podcast airs
as a test or whatever, but you can have it playing in the background.
And because your cells are so sensitive, it's kind of like that dog whistle.
Like you may not be able to hear it all, but it's going to affect your cells.
So it's a huge thing.
So when you go into workout, you can pump that up behind the music, whatever music you're listening to.
Same with meditation.
So one of the foremost meditation guys in the world, Dr. Michael Beckwith, I don't know if you guys know him,
but he's like super, super big in that field.
He used our stuff for almost a year before he was.
would put his name behind it. He did like the secret and the law of attraction, stuff like that.
Real cool guy, but he said, Henry, do you realize what you guys have here? Like, this is,
this is changing people. And so when you see that, that he's the world's foremost meditator,
and now he's got a huge gathering place on Beverly Hills, and called Agape, and every time he
speaks there, he does a meditation. And he plays our frequencies behind his meditation, because
it'll turbocharge it.
Like our frequencies are passive.
They're not active.
You don't have to sit there and listen.
I love your face.
You're giving me energy right now.
The world needs it so bad.
And the thing is,
is like, this is my thing.
People, right now we use it for the whole nine hours.
We're asleep.
And like Michael and I have associated it with sleep,
but it's not just for sleep.
Correct.
It's meditation.
We're going to put the high energy frequency
behind this entire podcast.
It's also, like, I feel like,
dear media needs to talk to you guys like off air
because I think that you guys should put the frequencies
behind podcasts and people can pick.
I'm telling you, I think that the world needs this so bad
because let me give you an example.
When Michael and I broke up and we were,
he was 13 years old.
You did not break up.
Come on.
You guys have always been together.
She just wouldn't leave it alone.
She was bugging you.
I'm going to call you hope.
He's like, all right, fine.
We broke up.
I went on to explore.
other thing when he was young age, and Michael had at this, at this young age, the most anger I've
ever seen in our entire life. Michael's like, isn't, I don't, I wouldn't call you an angry
person, but there was, there was, there was. I was 13 years old. I was going through a lot.
Oh, your hormones are raging. What were you listening to? Well, I still do. What were you
listening to? You know, it's funny. No, you don't. You still don't as much. Oh, no, I do.
I mean, I listen to a lot of heavy metal. Okay. So he's, yeah, that was matching his cells.
Right. Of that. Right. Yeah. You do now listen. I'm just
to call, you listen to more Diana.
No, but listen, but no, no.
He's really transpired.
Michael, no.
I would say,
your frequency is what you listen to.
I'm married now.
Your frequency is what you listen to most frequently.
Your frequency is coming in a little hot on me.
Yeah.
It's a little bit.
Changing the frequency of this room right now.
It might need to tone your frequency down.
I have a wide range of frequencies
that I've enjoyed may not unbe-knownst to me.
I like heavy metal at the same time.
I like classical. I like to kind of switch it up. Sometimes I like Japanese Zen Garden. You know, I like to
I like to move throughout. But, you know, I like to take the in the moment. Right. And match the moment to
that's why I don't like Spanish guitar when I'm trying to lift heavy waves. Right. Okay, let me ask you this.
On this note, how do both of you use soak frequencies throughout the week? Like what, like, how are you
using it and implementing it into your day to day life? Like, give us some examples for people like,
okay, they're thinking about trying it. For me, I've got like this big four foot monitor, this
curved monitor and my laptop here, I've got no less than 30 windows open all the time on it.
Like there's a deal here, there's a deal in this country, there's a deal with the U.S.
Air Force.
And when I started listening to the focus frequency, I could go into that window and finish
that without these three things pulling me off of it.
That's wild.
And before, I couldn't hardly do that because I've, you know, I probably got a little ADD myself.
I'm very curious.
And this would link to that and that would link to that.
And then before long, I'm ordering a car from Amazon.
Like, where did that come from?
But it sharpened my focus immensely.
That's probably one of my favorites.
I love the creative frequencies.
I love the sleep well frequencies.
And before I came in here, I used the high vibe frequencies.
So I felt like I was in the moment before I was in the moment.
Like, it just hit myself.
So that's how I use it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I use it different every day depending on my mood.
In the mornings when I wake up, I have my little root.
routine where I drink my lemon water and I do my stretches because I think stretching is really
important. And I listen to my frequency. I always try to make a point too, and this is a good
point, whoever is going to try this, to drink a big glass of water while you're listening
to the frequencies and make it like a thing. Even if you're driving, no matter what you're doing,
drink the water because our body is water in our cells. You know, the frequencies are
energy and their electricity. And so our cells are our electricity and they're powered by that.
So if you're hydrated, if you're hydrated, I think they work better.
I think you feel better and you feel them more when you're really hydrated.
So that's just like a habit that I do is just drink water while I'm listening.
But I'll listen to the energy high vibes in the morning or something like that.
When I meditate, I actually like to listen to the wealth and prosperity or the success frequency because it's like I don't have something physically going on in my body.
So I don't need something specific like that.
But I'm like, okay, this day is going to be successful.
And that's what I'm meditating on or whatever.
So that's what I'll listen to.
And then at night, the sleep well frequency.
We have a two-year-old, two-and-a-half-year-old, and so a lot of times I'll turn on the anti-anxiety.
Like if there's like a fit being thrown or even when I'm cooking dinner and he's going around, you know, crazy in the kitchen, I'll turn it on Alexa because you can listen to it through your Alexa device.
And it just it like calms the whole house down.
So we use it just however we need to during the day.
There's a lot to choose from.
I will tell you that you are 100% right about it calming the house down.
When my kids, it's bath time and they get like, they get like a second.
high. I'm like, right. They're like, how the fuck are you like, what is going on? They say, we're
going to see how hard we can make it. I literally look at him and say, turn on frequencies.
Like, and it does, there is something that immediately, it just mellows everyone out. It calms them down.
It calms them down. But I do think it's also important to not just walk people through how you use
them on a day-to-day basis, but moments. One note I want to say on that for kids, a lot of parents use, like,
sound devices like white noise. We got rid of those and only used the frequencies
mostly, but it I think is, in my opinion, better than the other stuff.
Of course. You're giving them more. There's more substance to the noise that they're hearing
versus the white noise. You can do both now with our dual audio because you can actually
play the frequency behind the white noise because some people, especially adults, are almost
addicted to the white noise. Like they've got to hear that fan at night. You can actually play
the frequency behind that and it works. We had a general come down and visit us in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
And he said, I want to meet the people that got me off Ambien.
He was the first person at Ground Zero at 9-11.
And he said, I've seen some things that I can't unsee.
And he went into a lot of stories.
And he said, the last 30 days, I went cold turkey off Ambien, which you're not even supposed to do.
I'm not suggesting anybody do this.
He went cold turkey off ambient.
And he said, I only listened to the soak, sleep well frequencies.
And I've slept like a baby for eight hours every night.
he came to Tulsa, Oklahoma with some of his crew to meet our crew to see how we did this.
Sleep's a huge topic on this podcast.
And we always tell people like, that's where you start if you want to kind of fix anything.
Huge.
And I think this is a great resource for people that are trying to get their sleep under control.
I won't sleep without it.
I won't sleep without.
I mean, I just won't.
It's like I tape my mouth shut every night.
I have my magnesium water.
We have red light in our room.
And one of the other things we do is we put on the frequencies.
I think it's non-negotiable at this point and it also becomes a habit stack.
It's like you say you associate it with drinking your water, but I do want to talk about moments in life.
Both my babies were born into frequencies.
So that's what we picked for both of them to come into the world.
So you can also what I think is cool, especially about what you guys are doing, is you can like brand moments with the frequencies.
So then you associate the frequency later with that moment.
So like for instance, you could take.
your sleep one and maybe, you know, you do something really special with that sleep one.
Maybe you're sleeping under the stars. And then you keep playing that in other scenarios and you go back to that memory.
That's kind of what we did with the burst. I also think you could play it when someone's having a tantrum.
You can play it if you have someone in your house who has a lot of energy that's visiting like a guest.
We've had a guest that's like bouncing off the walls and I'm like, let me turn this down.
You can kind of like manipulate with the frequencies.
You can use it if you're having a fight with your spouse.
Yeah, exactly.
We've proven that that works.
Unless they say, don't turn that on in front of me.
No, you're totally right.
But, you know, Lauren, you said something before and I can't get this off my mind.
When you said we should talk off air about playing frequencies behind certain podcasts,
we were invited to Ohio, California.
And there's somebody there that's about like 90-some-odd acres, beautiful area.
we went and visited the person and for now it's confidential but they're creating a large studio there
and it's among the streams the hills this is a beautiful area we were staying at ohio valley just right
next to it and we toured this place and she said i've got this goal i've got this vision we're building
these studios there's going to be these nice little running creeks and very well-known musicians
are going to come there and record their next album all right and she wants to
to play frequency behind each one of those
because it's going to be a song and an album with purpose.
So the same way I see the podcast is,
you've got such a great reach.
There's almost, and I'm not just my thing at all,
use what you want, but just generally,
you've almost got a responsibility for your reach.
And if you can play something or do something
that helps people beyond just listening,
I mean, there's a frequency in what you say,
but if you take that a level deeper and you add something to that, you're moving communities.
This is like a movement.
It's not just a thing or an event.
And yes, it works on both.
But it's like a movement.
Like you're affecting society.
I also think that there's probably people out there who have sublimally used frequencies
that are negative in a negative way.
Have you guys, sometimes I'll watch something and I'll literally be like the frequency of
this is so off. The news, there's something, there's something with the news where I'm like,
I go over to my father-in-law's house and I don't want it on around my kids. It's just, it's off.
And I almost feel like there's a subliminal frequency that we can't see. Yes. No, you're a thousand
percent right. There's, there's a message behind the message. And before, depending on what station you
listen to, and I won't get into politics, but depending on what you listen to, everybody's got their own slant.
and unless it's negative, it's not news.
So they come at you with this negative frequency
that changes the frequency in your home.
And if you let that in, shame on you.
Yeah, we got rid of a few years ago,
even before the pandemic,
we got rid of cable in the house
and we got rid of the news.
And I remember that time,
and we talked about it.
People said, oh, how are you going to be informed
and how are you going to be?
Like, well, some things maybe you don't want to be informed about.
You can find out what,
there's plenty of ways to find out what's going on in the world,
but to be bombarded constantly by that.
all the time. Like you said, you're inviting that energy into the house.
I also don't want that as the background to my child's childhood.
Yes, exactly.
I don't want them to associate the news with their childhood.
It's like, because I feel it out of my ether.
And I don't like, if people are going to call me uninformed, go for it.
I don't want my kids to hear the news and be like, oh, that's that's dad in mom's house.
Like I just don't.
I mean, two weeks ago, I got some kind of cold, right?
Don't worry, I'm not.
Oh my God, we got to talk about the cold.
This is a different frequency.
And it sucks.
We do have a cold and flu frequency.
But I attribute it to kids in school, season, change, all that stuff.
Right, right.
But then by accident, actually, today, this morning, I was on my phone.
I accidentally opened the news app.
Like, new variants of coronavirus.
And I was like, I just don't need to be bombarded.
Maybe I had that variant.
Maybe I didn't.
But the point is, like, I think people, like, you kind of look, you find what you're looking for.
And if you're looking all the time at all this bad stuff.
You know, like, for me, I was like, oh, I had a cold.
Like, it's gone.
My body around it.
moving forward. But I think some people get so derailed by that stuff because they're constantly
looking at bad stuff. You find what you're looking for, but worse, sometimes things find you
that you're not looking for. That's the point I'm trying to make. And then you're like, whoa. And you
really attract, you attract what you are. And so you resonated a certain frequency. So you're going
to attract everything like that frequency. So that's why it's so important to take the moments,
you know, and be in that moment and be present in that moment. And when you are, and when you are
intentional and conscious of your frequency and making sure your frequency is of a higher vibration
because that is all of the fruits of the spirit, the joy, the peace, the patience, the love,
the kindness. Those are all very high frequency feelings. And so that is the things and the
moments and the situations that you attract to you. And so if you're just conscious about that,
I mean, I'm telling you, you will see these things come into your life that are like, oh,
that was actually really good. And that was unexpected versus the opposite of what.
When you're always down, down, down, you're going to experience those same vibratory situations in all different forms every day.
So you have to change your thinking.
I think if you want to see where you're thinking is in this moment, a really good way to do it is to open your 4U page up on Instagram.
So good.
I think everyone should do this.
I'm constantly monitoring my 4U page.
And I know that I'm in a good place when I see meditation, mindset, how to be better, how to be the best version.
You can see what vibration you're vibrating at.
If you go on that page and there's a bunch of negative news and there's shit about coronavirus
and there's all this shit that's being fed to you, right.
There's something that you're giving off that like you said, Laura, is attracting that bad to you.
These algorithms are good at delivering to you what it thinks you want.
Don't worry.
Michaels is all Chihuahuas because we follow 300 Chihuahua accounts to keep him in line.
Chihuahua is listening to Heavy Metal, right?
Yeah, exactly.
But you know, I mean, I think we all can, like, Lauren and I talk about this all the time.
We want to be able to walk into a room and raise the frequency of that room and make people feel better and not take the energy out, but give energy, right?
And I think we all know we have people, everyone has someone in their life that that person walks into the room and they suck the energy out and it makes you feel that.
Yeah.
You can feel it.
Well, coming in here, and I don't mean to interrupt you, but coming in here, and I'm just saying this.
but this is like it's light, it's bright.
And when we came in here, I felt so comfortable.
Like I felt like you were on my team already.
And hopefully you felt the same about us.
Great energy.
But you feel that.
And when you walk into it, but you've got the choice.
If you feed your body and your cells and your mind,
what you think about, you bring about,
mindsets manifest, all that.
It sounds cliche, but it's so true that when you focus on those things,
that's what you bring into a conversation.
you get somebody saying, well, my business is not doing very well,
and I really can't seem to get to that next level in life.
Who are you hanging around?
Like, what are you feeding your system?
What are you feeding your cells and your soul in a cellular way?
What are you doing?
Give me five minutes with somebody like that, and I'll change it.
No, it's important.
For a little bit of like kind of like behind the scenes, something in media,
because I'm in the media business, right, like doing this.
Right.
And I never was before.
But I'm protecting myself.
I do very few interviews.
with traditional media outlets.
And every time I talk about this,
someone from that space writes me to DM and gets angry.
Sure.
But the reason I choose not to,
and I get asked all the time from certain reporters,
like, will you come on this or what you do an interview here?
Most of the time, those questions are tailored to kind of find some kind of fault
or some kind of negative angle so that they can write a story that people will pay attention to.
The fact is, media is in a sad state of affairs where they only really get attention,
if, to your point, there's some kind of negative.
tone or notics. Nobody cares about good news anymore. They want to hear the bad stuff. And so I most
of the time, I don't participate and don't speak to a lot of these people because that's what,
that's what they're looking for. That's the only way that the story is going to be feeding that engine and
you don't want to do that because that's not what you stand for. Yeah, no, no. And I just don't,
and I understand, like, I empathize with people in that space because like nobody's reading or
listening to a lot of these platforms anymore because one, a lot of people don't trust it, but two,
it's so negative all the time. But that's also the game that they're all in now, which is the only
way to break through is they kind of have to do that in order to like cut through the noise.
That's why you see a lot of these tabloids and kind of like the gossip. It's always something bad.
It's never like, hey, let me talk about the mom that did something great for the community or the
dad that. It's all just bad. It's so sad. Well, that's what I was talking about. There's a
responsibility in your reach. Yeah. And that could be something good or something bad.
Yeah. It's why we don't do. And you choose. Yeah, we don't do a lot of like it. It would be
very easy to garner a lot of attention on a platform like this by bringing somebody on that is politically
charged, left or right,
diving super deep into that.
The audience would double or triple.
We would get way more visibility.
But I don't want to play that game and neither does Lorne
because it's just putting bad frequency out into the community.
Yeah.
And the people's household and into the atmosphere in general.
Yeah, that's right.
Do you know what he says to me sometimes when we get in a fight now?
What?
He goes, I don't know what this frequency that you're giving.
I love it.
I'm like, you bitch you learned about frequencies one year ago.
I've been doing frequencies in the womb.
I knew the room is frequency.
You don't even know about that.
That sounds very similar to him.
Exactly.
I'm like, do not use my words against me.
It's out of control.
On the frequency, that's right.
I think that people are going to look back in 30, 40, 50 years, maybe sooner,
and they're going to talk about people that put good or bad frequencies into whatever.
You're going to be able to look back and say, oh, that was.
a bad frequency. That was a good frequency. And it sounds woo-woo maybe right now, but I believe that
will happen. You'll be able to look back and be like, these kind of messages were bad. These ones were
positive. The question is, is like, are you trying to help or you're trying to harm?
Yeah. I would like to ask you guys both a couple of specific questions. And you could both
answer as a him and her perspective. Okay. Which frequency are you recommending to someone who has
depression? Definitely the depression relief. Yeah. Depression relief. But, you know, obviously.
But still, it depends because why are you depressed?
Because I think people probably when they think about it hard enough, they can figure out what it is.
So, you know, because we come out of clinic, I have a different perspective on depression and anxiety and those type of things.
It could be a gut issue.
It could be that you got in a fight with a spouse or a parent or something and that just spiraled you.
It could be a lot of things.
Or you're not sleeping right.
It could be because you're dehydrated, like severely.
You know, and so there's a lot of different things.
That's why we have these compositions.
But the depression support might work.
But maybe if your stomach hurts all the time, maybe try to listen to the digestive support along with the depression support.
So it's like really listen to your body and try to remember what have I been doing the last month to make me get to this point right here.
Did I have a big fight that you then forgot about because you try to suppress it?
But then a month later, you're like chronically depressed.
you know, so really try to figure out what's going on with your life to get you to that point
and then layer the frequencies, do, you know, do one in the morning and try a different one
in the afternoon and a different one in the evening and get really specific, but also, you know,
meditate and try to get into that space where you're visualizing yourself without that issue,
you know, because part of our app is also mindful intentions, which are just positive affirmations.
And so that is such a huge part.
And from my perspective, it's such a huge part.
in changing your frequency is changing your mind. And so the depression, it's not just
listen to the depression frequency. It's let's take a little bit deeper dive and let's try to
get our mind out of that space. I think you're right too. And like with the depression one,
you could also listen to the high vibration one. Exactly. You're also going to need one for sleep
because you're sleeping. I think how I like to use it too is if I have to be using my hands,
like I'll make the bed
to a high vibration one
or I'll clean the kitchen
like you don't you can use them
sort of like as that habit stack
what I'm obsessed with
and I didn't know about
and I've learned through this podcast
is that you can play
a podcast like this
and listen to them at the same time
I didn't realize that
and what I think is so genius
about what you guys have done
is you've layered
the compositions
talk to us about that
yeah yeah absolutely
but one thing I wanted
to say about the dual audio. This is one thing from the very beginning. We all wanted as a team to do.
I'm mom. I have three children. We own our own businesses. I mean, busy, busy, as everybody probably is.
And I'm all about efficiency. So I'm like, okay, so I want to get up and I want to exercise. I have
curly hair naturally. And so then I have to take a shower and straighten my hair, which takes another
hour. I want to meditate. I want to do all these things before I even go to work. I'm like,
that's four hours before I even get to work. That's silly. And so I'm like, when we're talking about the
frequencies. I'm like, we have to be efficient. So I'm like when we started the clinic and started
figuring out, hey, this really works. And then it's passive so you can do it while you're doing
something else. I'm like, this is it. And so that was just a comment that I love the dual audio
feature because I'm like, this is just got to be efficient. You know, we don't have to sit there for
two hours and meditate quietly without doing anything else to get that benefit of raising your
vibration and frequency because that's what you're trying to do in the first place.
When you say dual audio, do you mean that I could be in the car listening to a podcast
with the Sok app too.
So you download the soak app and then you play it and then that does basically background sounds
to whatever other things.
So I wouldn't everyone be doing that.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
It stuck in my mind when you said that.
So you first go to the soak app.
I didn't realize that that was a thing.
I'm just playing it through the app so I can pat it.
Yeah, exactly.
So you go to the app and you push.
And then just go to whatever audio, other audio selection you want.
If it's music, heavy metal, Spanish guitars, whatever.
Or a podcast.
and you're there.
Like you're getting a frequency treatment
while it's not disrupting any other part of your life
and it's working in concert with what you do every day anyway.
Interesting.
Yes.
That is so cool.
Efficiency.
You're welcome every mother out there.
That's amazing.
When I was in front of a couple of generals just about a month ago,
I said, look how you can stack this.
And it's kind of a known, unknown thing
that a lot of the fighter pilot sometimes they'll go in
and play ACDC or whatever.
So I thought I would be cool and play one of the focus frequencies.
And then I stacked it with shoot to thrill, play to kill ACDC.
And he was cool.
Yeah, that's good.
And all the other guys were going, yeah, we love that.
Like, we would totally do that.
I also would think that frequencies would be so amazing for people with post-traumatic stress.
Oh, yes.
For sure.
Like, essential.
One of someone who's out there who is dealing with post-traumatic stress, definitely, I would check that out.
They're bringing up working with vets too in that vein.
And with the military.
Yeah.
One thing cool about that PTSD specifically is it's usually, there's usually a trigger
that makes, because a lot of PTSD people who have it, they can go about their normal life
and you might not even know it, but then something might trigger them and then they have to go,
you know, take a moment.
But the frequency is you turn on an anti-anxiety frequency and it's within just a couple
minutes that it calms your system.
So it's really effective at really quick way to calm yourself to where you can at least
like think straight or get home or drive or do what you need to do.
It's initially very calming to the system, so your whole body just relaxes.
You guys ran into Dr. Josh Axe on the way out here.
One of the things we were talking about with him on the show right before we interviewed you
is sometime in the medical space before you jump to something like a frequency or a supplement
or an exercise, people are so quick to prescribe a sleep medication or anti-exam-exam.
I love this kind of stuff because this is a very cost-effective way to do something that
is not as drastic, but may eliminate the need to have to do some of those.
Listen, there's a place for medication, right?
Right. Yeah, 100%.
But these are things maybe you can do in the interim.
If you want to fix your sleep, maybe don't take the ambient, try this first.
Yeah.
Or, you know, don't take the anti-anxiety medicine.
Listen, some people need it.
Yeah.
Try this first.
I like stuff like that where it's like, hey, there's things you can do in the interim
before you jump to something that could be life alter.
It's up to you and it's for you.
Like, you can test it out on your body.
And if you really listen, like, Lauren, I feel like,
Like you're very intuitive and you're in touch with your feelings, your emotions, you're like what's going on on the inside.
And when you lean into that, your body will tell you.
And I know that sounds weird, but your body will absolutely tell you what's going on.
And as you make those adjustments, maybe you're coming off ambient and you're listening to more of the sleep well frequency and it starts to work and you want to wean yourself off or you want to use them both.
Like there's no right or wrong answer that's a general.
answer because everybody's different. And however you lean into that, that's going to be what you get out of it.
I have to recommend this to every single person who's listening. I would start, just if you're
going to start with one of Soak's frequencies, the sleep one. Because I think that one is just like
no-brainer. We all sleep. And I think that what you will realize is exactly what Henry said.
Your body will immediately tell you. It's one of those things. You just can't explain it.
you turn it on. And I think that what I've realized from this conversation is sound is a sense,
obviously, and it's so underrated and it's not talked about enough. Yeah. Sound is important.
Yes. It's an extremely powerful. It's extremely powerful. So make sure you're listening to the right
sounds. That's right. Do we have a code for the audience? You do. Skinny. Okay. They just download the Soke
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We're giving away free 30 days of using it.
Don't take our word for it.
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If you like it, keep using it.
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I am a huge fan of what you guys are doing.
I think it's, I know this was weird.
Maybe I should say this off air, but I think it's going to shift the world's vibration.
That's what we were counting on.
Thank God you shifted my house.
Because you couldn't put up with that shift anymore, right?
Now this bitch is like, this bitch, when I first started dating him, he should have seen him.
Now he comes in, he's like, oh my God, you know what he said to me?
This light is jarring.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
He's getting more in touch.
If you are the brightest lights with like loud news now, he's like he needs his frequency,
is his low lights.
He has evolved.
He likes his you as we should in the shower.
Or it says I'm 5D now.
I'm 5D.
He made it into 5D.
He did.
I was on the customer.
I wasn't making it over.
I was going to cross over.
I initiated them to 5D.
I love it.
Where can everyone find you the brand, pimp yourself out, the Instagram, all the things?
It's at Soak app.
All of our handles are at Sok up.
Instagram, Facebook.
Yeah, at S-O-A-A-K-A-P.
So at So-A-K-A-K-com.
Thank you guys.
This is awesome.
Yes, amazing.
Thank you so much for having us.
Go to Sok-S-O-A-A-K dot com and use code Skinny
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