The Bossticks - How Your Home Shapes Your Happiness, Mental Health & Relationships & The Simple Changes That Make A Difference Ft. Moll Anderson

Episode Date: October 8, 2026

#1,013: Join us as we sit down with Moil Anderson – Emmy Award-winning television personality, bestselling author, designer, and one of the original voices in modern lifestyle media. For decades, Moll has  inspired audiences through conversations about intentional living, emotional wellbeing, and personal growth. Through The Moll House and her Psychology of Home™ philosophy, she brings a deeper, research-backed perspective to the spaces we create and the lives we lead. In this episode, Moll gets real about the power of the five senses, creating a home that feels like a refuge, and how our environments can shape the way we think, feel, and live. She explores the connection between sensory awareness and wellbeing, why letting go of physical clutter can help us release outdated versions of ourselves, and how small shifts in our surroundings can change the way we experience everyday life. She also shares her perspective on embracing reinvention, nurturing deeper connections in relationships, protecting your mental space, and creating a home that supports the life you want to live.   For Detailed Show Notes visit TheBossticks.com   To connect with Moll Anderson click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   To learn more about Moll Anderson visit https://mollanderson.com.    This episode is sponsored by The90 Head to http://The90.com and use code BOSSTICKS for $50 off.   This episode is sponsored by Tatcha  Visit http://Tatcha.com and use code SKINNY for15% off.   This episode is sponsored by Hiya Health We've worked out a special deal with Hiya. Receive 50% off your first order on any of their products. To claim this deal you must go to http://hiyahealth.com/SKINNY.   This episode is sponsored by Beekeeper's Naturals  Go to http://beekeepersnaturals.com/SKINNY or enter code SKINNY to get 20% off your order.   This episode is sponsored by HERS Ready to reach your goals? http://Visitforhers.com/skinny to access personalized, affordable care for weightloss, hair, menopause, and more.   This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics Branch Basics is available at Target, Target.com, Amazon, and BranchBasics.com. And now our community can get 15% off SITEWIDE at http://BranchBasics.com with code SKINNY.   This episode is sponsored by Woo More Play Visit https://woomoreplay.com and use code SKINNY.    This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential Shop your nightly ritual now at https://shopskinnyconfidential.com. Produced by Dear Media

Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostic. Together, they are the Bostics. Maul Anderson, she is on the show. We are talking about the art of living well. Master your space, curate your life, and live more intentionally. I was introduced to Moll through my stylist, Isabel, and I was blown away at how she curated and edited her home. She's a lifestyle expert, author, designer, and someone who has spent decades studying the connection between how we live and how we feel.

Mal Anderson, welcome to the Bostics. Isabel styled both of us today. So if you want to see our outfits, they're complimentary. Sorry, Michael. You can see it on YouTube. And then we had Chris Dillon do our hair. And we had Chloe do our makeups. I initially fell in love with you because Isabel was showing me pictures of your incredible house.

but the way that you think about the environment. Like she showed me that you had sunflowers with the petals pulled out and a big bowl of green apples. Just it was very creative. And you can tell that you're someone who really cares about the environment and the space that you're in. I do. And I'm hoping from this episode that we can sort of romanticize everybody's life.

I would love that. I live to romanticize everyone's life. So tell us first one thing that anyone can do right now that's free to make their environment feel more functuade? Well, first of all, the reason for doing it is I want people to become more sensory aware, meaning, you know, we learned in first grade that we had five senses, correct? And then we never talked about it again. But it's so important because the way we look at something,

the way the scent of something, the way it feels audible, you know, all of it, it becomes so important. And somehow we've lost that. And part of my goal with all of this that we're going to be talking about is that I want people to raise their children to be sensory aware, to say, I want you to see these beautiful green apples I put in a bowl. And I want you to understand that there was a farmer who grew these. And that beautiful color green, it just accentuates the way the whole kitchen looks and it feels so good. But we can eat them. And it's a wonderful thing.

And we should be grateful for them and understand that somebody really took the time in their whole life was about, growing those apples. It's a different way of thinking. Why do you think people have lost touch with the five senses? Because we stopped talking about it. We stopped talking about it after the first grade. And so I really got into it with my last book because I thought this is so important. And since memory also plays a part in that, you know, when we pick colors and choose colors, when we look at color, it's not just with our eyes, it's with a full sensory experience. meaning we have memories tied to colors from the time that we're small children until today. So there may be a reason you hate a certain color and you don't know why.

Because you have not looked back and looked at sense memory and what does that mean? Why do I have an aversion to this color? What is it? Did something happen to you? Did something wonderful happen? So you love that color because it makes you feel good? There's always a reason we either love or hate. to color. That's why you don't like that like pale, dusty pink color. No, I don't like pale, dusty pink

because it reminds me of a hospital and I have an inversion to hospital. No, it's because that kid threw up on you when we're in sixth grade. That's true. That's true. That has to do it. Sounds like there was several things. Yeah. So wait, you spent a lot of time in a hospital? No, I'm scared of hospitals and that pink, you know, the pink kind of like syrup. Yeah. Yeah. It has to be the right tone. I'm in the tone. It's we were, our child was sick recently. You know, the kids get sick, they throw up. Yes, of course. Do we have to go straight out? Well, let me tell you about the five cents. So I'm usually on that duty when the kids get, because she can't handle it. I help, but I'm like,

throwing up myself. It's because I remember, so we were in sixth grade together. And a kid turned around and threw up like all over her. Wow. It was that dusty, weird pink color. But I like to focus on colors I like. Not colors. I don't. Right. But it's very important. It's very important before we move on. It's very important that you really, visit your feeling about that whenever you're ready because it holds you back on some level in life. So you want to make sure that you connect to the color. Heal that memory with that. I'm sweating. You know? Because it's super important because you don't want to carry that on. You know, whatever happened to us as children, we carry on into our children's childhood.

Great. My kids are going to have an inversion to throb. No, no, I try to make it easy for them. Yeah. So what is something that someone can do tomorrow to tap into the five senses? How would you advise them? Definitely with food. Okay. Food is the easiest way to start.

And when I say food, think about how beautiful herbs are. Herbs are gorgeous. So why not? If people are putting herbs in their kitchen, they're growing them, they're cutting them. A lot of times I will take them and bunch them really pretty and stick them in a big wood bowl or on a platter and kind of display them. I like to create monochromatic moments. I think monochromatic is so easy on the senses. You know, it's super important to find, at least for me it is, but I find that everyone's drawn to them when I do it. And I feel that when you have the monochromatic tones,

you just your whole body releases, right? And so you feel it. You feel it. And green is having such a moment. And I am so attracted to the color green because of the way I feel around it. I feel like it's bringing the outdoors inside, right? That's so true. That makes so much sense. It's a nature vibe in the home. And I think when we bring nature into our kitchen, let's face it, everybody spends time in the kitchen. They all love to be in the kitchen. And it's such a great teaching tool for your children as well. I literally have a tree in my kitchen on the counter. I live to have that nature. inside my house. And I started realizing the feeling, excuse me, when COVID happened. And we had just been hit by a tornado. And we had no trees in the backyard. Nothing. So my beautiful windows were there.

And I couldn't see anything but dirt and glass and all of that that had happened, which was a constant reminder of what happened. So I really had to, first of all, work in my brain and say, I need to reframe this. Instead of looking at that, I want to start thinking about. about what it's going to look like when I see those trees again. So then I thought, I'm going to bring in the green into the kitchen. And that's how it started by bringing a tree, by, I bought these big bowls, these big wooden bowls, and I filled them with either green apples or watermelons or limes. I'd have lots of limes.

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you were someone who was detached from the five senses. I think you should call yourself out. No, I think, yeah. I mean, like, I was, that's normal for a man. I was just being bombarded by, you know, bright lights and loud noises. Right. You know. And it's pretty normal for a guy. I think, though, if him and I divorced today, I think that you would wake up like you were in a jail cell and be disturbed by it because I've trained you. But I'm also, listen, I appreciate the five cents. I love when I walk into a space and it smells good and the lights right. And that's great. I like, I appreciate it. Yeah. But I'm also. somebody who I'm able to like kind of just like live in my own head and block out what's going on around me.

Right. Like you could be loud and noisy. That's what a lot of people do. Yes. Right. Well, and that's what everybody's doing. Unfortunately, we've got so much chaotic stuff going on in the world that we have to really start thinking about our home as our refuge. And I know it's been overused. And I start, when I started in this business 20-some years ago, it wasn't really a business. People would say to me, well, okay, wait, this is a business of lifestyle? I said, no, it's a calling. I believe in this and we've got to start living differently. And so I'm trying to get people to understand that if we don't make these changes

and we don't start teaching our children, I mean, we have an opportunity here to change their lives and their children's lives by teaching them the importance of home. Because that's all we have to protect us from the outside, right? So your experience at home as a child is so important. What are some things that you did for your children that you look back on that you're really proud of in the home? Well, I had Michael first because I ended up a single mom. And I think not having a lot of money, I became very creative because we were just literally, I was in flight or fight mode most of my life. And so I would always buy flowers. It was if that was all I could do, I would buy flowers or I would buy greenery, whatever I could afford at that time. But we always talked about food. and when I'd get a paycheck from doing a commercial or doing something, we'd always go out to dinner. It was his choice of where to go and we'd celebrate.

But we made it special and we talked about how, oh, now we're going to be able to do this and we're going to stop at the grocery store. What do you want to get? And he would get to the point where we'd say, oh, I really love that. And I love that green stuff that you put on the food the other night. I said, the herbs. And then I'd say, it's cilantro. And not everybody loves cilantro, but he did.

And so I was trying to teach him without even realizing that's what I was doing because I just felt like we needed as much care emotionally as anybody. And so I did it in innate ways. And you were in a band. This is our research. Tell us about this band. I heard that you heard about that. I heard about the band. Well, it was a job, really.

This was during that time. My son, my son, I think he was about seven at the time. We were in Los Angeles, Studio City. and my manager called me and he said, they're having this huge cattle call. They're looking for models and things that can sing, and I know you sing, and I said, okay. And he said, you got to go.

Take a headshot and take a tape. And I'm like, all right. So I went to the studio in Studio City, and it was Georgioma Roder who did, you know, my gosh, take my breath away, you know, and all the big songs, all the disco eras, you know, Donna's summer. So I was like, okay, this is cool.

So I took my little headshot and I took my tape. I got there. There were 1,500 people. And I needed this job really bad. So I quickly went through, met them, and that was it. Didn't hear a thing for 30 days. Then I get a phone call. Come and I need you to sing live.

So I had to go sing, take my breath away of all songs. And I knew it, which was a miracle. It's a hard song to sing. Yeah, it's a hard song to sing. And I sang the song. they said, okay, we'll get back to you. Didn't hear a thing for 30 days. Got called into the office, walked in, and there were three other people in there. And I said, when are we going to find out? And he said, oh, you're it. I said, what do you mean we're it? And he said, you guys are the

group. We're going to Italy. It's a deal with Virgin Records. You're going to do the international FIFA song for the Italian soccer team. And I'm like, you're kidding. And that's how it started. You have had a lot of different lives, it feels. like you're very multifaceted. What advice do you have for women? I've seen you talk a little bit on your Instagram about this entrepreneurs that want to sort of pivot and make changes. Never be afraid to make a change. I had to live my life by, okay, if that door closes and that window opens, I am crashing through it, whatever it's going to take. And I think because I was a mom, you know, and I had to desperately be able to pay my rent and to feed him and to pay for clothes.

and all those things, it was, it definitely egged me on to keep trying and keep working. I mean, I did, I painted walls for people, I faux painted houses, I did whatever it took. And I think as I got older, you know, I totally re, I'd have to say it was just this moment when I was 39 and moved by myself to Nashville, Tennessee, thinking maybe I'd write music. and Michael had gone off to college and I got there and I realized he wasn't there anymore. It wasn't part of my life and it was such a lost feeling

that it did the absolute opposite for me. I knew it was time for me to really change my life. And I was watching Oprah that day, of course, of one of those Oprah stories. And she had on these two authors and they talked about how to not be afraid to change your life and that there was a way to find threads through your life by photographs. And I just happened to have the box of pictures that I hadn't put

away yet in the place that I was renting. And I quick grabbed it and sat it down. And I had all these pictures wrapped in rubber bands and they were before and afters of everywhere we had lived and all of my friends' houses that I helped or furniture that I redid for them or whatever I did. And I went, wow. It was just this mind-blowing sense of this is what I meant to do. everything I have been through up until now, whether it was modeling or singing or I worked at news. I did entertainment news in Phoenix and all of those things led up to this moment. And I went to work in a furniture store for $10 an hour. That was hard, you know. And I just kept praying every day and I kept saying, I'm a designer. This is going to be great. And a woman walked in one day. And she said,

I am looking for an interior designer. Is that what you're doing here at the the store and I said, well, yes, I am. And I said, because I read Tony Robbins book and he just said, you own it, you say it, you go. And I said, yes, I am. She goes, okay, would you come out to our house and come and meet my husband? Because we met with everybody and it just hasn't clicked. I said, well, sure, she gave me her address. I set it down. I didn't think anything of it. She said, two weeks from today. I said, okay. And then that weekend, I went on a drive with some friends way out past Nashville, past Franklin. And I saw this beautiful, black fencing. And I thought, that's the coolest looking fencing on a ranch I've ever seen. They're

normally white picket fences, you know. And I said, who lives there? And they said, I don't know. We never see them. And then I saw this like beautiful cabin. And I said, that's really cool. I said, I'd love to know these people. And they said, all because of a black fence. I said, yeah, I don't know what it is. So that was that. I go the next week and I've got the address. And I'm driving. And I'm like, wow, this is crazy. This is out where I was. And I'm, and I'm, getting closer, I'm looking at addresses, and I see the black fencing. And I still get chills today. And I could feel it in my body. And I said, something major is happening right this minute, or I'm crazy. And I pulled up to the gate, and I rang the bell and tears started to stream down my face. And I said,

oh, my God, this is the moment my life is changing. And I said, well, what if it isn't? And I thought, nope, nope, we're just going to go with this. And I heard the voice. and her name was Patty St. Lawrence. And she said, Ma, I said, yes. And she said, I'm glad you found us. I said, I see the house. She goes, no, no, no, that's our caretaker's house. Just open the gate.

We're going to open the gate. You're going to go through the gate. I mean, I was shook, if you can imagine. It's that house. And I start driving. Now I'm losing it. Mascar is coming down my face. I'm like, I've got to pull it together.

And I pull up to the house and it's massive. And I get out of the car. And she said, come on. And I get up there and I said, I'm supposed to be here. And she said, yes, you are. And that changed my life. And so did you start doing interior design for her? Yeah.

I mean, I had 30 days to finish her house. And if I did, I would do the TV special because they owned TNN Great Outdoors. And it was like, this is crazy. I think it's so smart what you said about saying yes to everything like Tony Robbins said. There was this woman that I read about and she would say, that's my specialty. Yeah. Even if it wasn't her specialty. She would say it all.

Like they would come in and say, can you do that? And she'd be like, that's my specialty. Even if she had never done it before. Yeah. It's almost like having that confidence that you can do anything that you want and just saying yes to everything and seeing where it lands. And also, you know, our brains, it's so interesting because it's been scientifically proven that our brains don't know the difference between it actually happening and the way we feel

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every little thing like, thank you God for that check that came in. Thank you so much for that client. And as I did each house, I would always lock them out. And three months later, I would have them meet me at the door. And inside, I'd call it party ready. It's going to be party ready. The music was on. The candles were lit. The flowers were going. They came home to a house that was completely done. And when I would leave, I would hand them their keys. And I'd shut the door. And I'd be like, my house is coming. My house is coming. So today do you have a specific gratitude practice that you do? Or is it just? It's constant. I wake up in the morning. I am grateful. My husband and I have created rituals that we stay connected. I mean, I don't care where we're going with state we're in.

Who's busy or who's going a different direction. One of us will get up earlier just in order to have a cup of coffee together. We even have coffee machines in our bathrooms. That was the most important thing we did because we keep the cups, you know, we have a sink there. And everyone says, oh my gosh, do you have a coffee machine built into your bathroom? I said, it's the most important thing. What's the key to a successful marriage? Communication. But it's the time spent together. It's also the bids for connection. It's a tell. John Gottman did a whole study. All of his studies are a lot around relationships. And it was so interesting because he said, you could tell by the people who connected on the bid for connection from either husband or wife to

each other who was going to make it. And the ones that 80% of the time took that bit of connection and actually acted on it. And I'm talking about sitting facing each other maybe instead of just watching the TV, having moments like that. Charlie and I have them in the morning and we have them at night, Whether it's a mocktail or a cocktail or whatever it is, we stop everything and we download the day. What's your week like? How is your day? What happened? Tell me all about it. And then we shift. Is he love being married to a woman who's so confident and dominant? Because that takes a very strong man. Well, I'm married to Southern boy. Yeah, but you're not messing around. You're booked and busy. I see you. I know. You're working.

Well, we'll be married 22 years coming up, and we've been through a lot together, you know. We've been through family illnesses, and we buried my mom and his mom and just this summer, his father. And, you know, it's a lot of history. And it's a wonderful kind of history. We're there for each other. We lift each other up. I think he is having so much fun watching me be doing this right now at my age when, people are saying, why aren't you slowing down? I said, you know what? My brain, it's so important,

we use our brain. It's about staying connected to what's important. We have to have the energy of something to look forward to. It's so important. And I think we have so much fun together, and we don't think old. We don't think we're retiring. I know 40-year-olds for talking about retiring. And I'm like, why? Why would you do that? I mean, what do they? going to do, 40-year-olds that are retiring? They're going to sit on the porch for a little while and they're going to get everything out of their systems and then they're going to go, what next? I don't think it's good for your brain.

It's not. I know a lot of people like they aspire to one day retire, but I think it's not good for your health. I think that's such old thinking. That used to be the dream because, first of all, the lifespans of a man and a woman, I mean, when you think about it, even 50 years ago, it was different. Now people are living far beyond their years, far beyond. I don't feel like retirements in my vocabulary.

I have to be doing something. Well, I just like the simple way I could think about it is like I never understood the concept of working your whole life to be productive so that one day you can be unproductive. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't like, yeah, it doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. I don't understand. Like, I just don't understand the rationale of like learning and working and thinking.

If you retired, I would go crazy. I would, I would literally be like, all right, buy another house because I'm not doing it. You would. There's not because. You would be so out of control. Well, because I think human being. are meant to do productive things, right? It doesn't necessarily mean you have to always go and make a bunch of money or whatever, but like you're meant to be a productive contributing person to the

world. And if you aspire one day to sit and play golf or tennis, like that's, what are you doing? So think about what you just said. There's a lot of people, and especially decades ago, where people had jobs that they just automatically went to, they weren't connected to the job. All right? They're punching a card. And they're a means to an end. They don't, yes, it's a means to an end because that's where they are. They're stuck. And instead of trying to figure it out, and maybe they just couldn't, it was too much for them. They thought and dreamt about the day they didn't have to do it anymore and be around. But the truth of the matter is, we don't survive and be happy in our life, in our marriage, and just being a parent, right, or a grandparent,

which is a whole other experience, unless we have something to give. And that is so important, and it comes back again to gratitude. Gratitude, I think, is very important too. I try, when I open my eyes in the morning, I try to immediately shift my brain straight to grateful. That's perfect. You know, you have to try. It's a practice. What's the first thing that you remove from a client's home that's sucking the energy out of their house? I think we do an awl walk. Okay. What's an awl walk? An awl walk is when we start at the front door and we get them to work on their sensory experience of their home as if they weren't them. Okay, I love that.

Yeah, and usually what you do is you start outside of the house and then you come back in and you tell them they can speak into their phone or they can write it down. And I'm making my list as someone who's about to do their home, right? They are looking at their home for the first time, like, what am I seeing? And it's kind of like, think of it this way. When we live in our house all the time, we start missing things. And me who's so detail-oriented about a month and a half ago, I would. was sitting and I laid back and I was kind of thinking and I look up and I'm like, is that a piece of painter's tape up in that corner? And I said, how did I miss that? I was shocked. And I thought,

if I miss it, everybody's missing everything. And I laugh because even I can, you know, walk by something a bunch of times. But that's what we do. We are walking through life. We are not paying attention. We are not aware. We don't care. We don't turn on the music. We don't light the candles. We don't have a fireplace going if we have one. And we don't sit and look in awe of what we've created. Are you hearing this? Because I asked Michael to put the fireplace on in a hundred degrees. Oh my gosh. Here's what I like. I like movement in my house. I want a fan. I want a flickering candle. I want a warm fireplace. There's something that it does to you that's like caveman. What do you do if you're melting in your own home? You turn down the air conditioner. Yeah, open the door. I don't.

What she does, though, is she turns the fireplace on. We live in Texas, right? To be all through on Texas. Yes, yes. She opens the windows and the doors. I want fresh Do you have it on a remote? No, I wish I could. I have to ask him to light it. It's so annoying. I need some kind of control. Can you tell me how to do that? I don't have a remote. Okay, it's a small price you call a fireplace guy. Tomorrow. And then you called and the the plumber hooks it up and it's all you do is go, boom. I would love her. Well, now I'm in trouble because And also another thing he does is in the morning. It's the brightest light brighter than this every morning in the morning.

And I'm like... Well, that's the time you want to get the light in the eyes. I can understand at night a day. I want natural light. Of course. Thank you. I can't have this debating. But if I get up before the sun comes up...

In order to get your circadian rhythm, you've got to have natural light. But if I'm walking around before the sun comes up, I can't be stumbling around in the dark. So that's... So I would say this. Can't wait. You have your lighting guy come. Yes, we do. You have your very own morning setting.

Yes, I love that. And you hit that button. That's all you have to do. And it controls all the lights in the house to give you enough light to walk through, but also that takes the shades up so that you can have your natural light at the same time. I would love him in a kerchief walking around with a candle. Yeah. I'm all for that.

You know, in the morning, I do like to flood my eyes with bright light. Why? And I like to do it outside first. If I can get natural light, that's my favorite way to do it. But there's a difference between a bright light like this. and the natural light. Do you have a door that steps outside of your... So what I'm saying is like in the morning, if there is natural light, the sun's up, I will get it. But if I wake up and it's darker out, then I need to... Just sleep in an extra hour or something

though, because I can't have the light. So what a luxury. Well, there's another trick to you get in the shower, take a hot shower and then you just turn the thermostat to cold. To cold. That's what I do. If you're volunteering to wake up early with the baby before the sun, I might consider that. We do shower in the dark. He will shower in the dark. In the red light. In the night. In the red light. Yeah. So I got him there. I got him there, which I'm really proud of that he's showers in the dark. That's awesome. Yeah. So we're getting there. We're making moves. Yeah, what the hell do I need to see anything for anyways? I'll just walk around. My kids are so funny. He turns on the light. They go, ew, dad, we have blue eyes.

Well, that's the other thing. See, we have light eyes. And so, see, that's, yeah, and it's, it's really difficult for us. Green, green eyes? They're green or hazel? Yeah. They change. It hurts the eyes. My husband says they go to Christmas green if I cry. Oh, don't make you go to Christmas cream. I know. But it does hurt our eyes because they're light. Michael needs to hear that. Which is why it's harder for us if we're taking pictures outside and we're facing the sun. It's very difficult. So we have to close our eyes and count a three and open them. Let's talk about feng shui. What are some things that people can do to manifest happiness, money, success in their house? I know there's certain things that they can move around in the home, right? Yes. There are certain things that. That feng shui, really feng shui, when it comes down to it, is all about common sense, right? Why we shouldn't have a mirror facing our bed because of the shadows and all of those things is because why have two mirrors in Malibu, okay? They're on either side of the fireplace.

Okay. So they're not really facing the bed because the bed is more centered to the room. Okay. But if it's facing your bed, then you can cover it at night. You could just put something over it. If I start covering the mirror, I think you're going to file away. If you're having trouble sleeping, do that. If you're not having trouble sleeping, then don't do it.

Okay. What are other little things like that? Well, but I want you to think about common sense. Like when Feng Shui tells you you shouldn't have your back to a door, right? Sure. That's because you need to see who's coming in and be aware. So the mob guys in the old days, you know, they always had the table that sat so they could see every door and every room and, you know. That's a Michael Bostic one for sure.

I think that's good advice for anyone. Yes. You know, especially these days. It's going to be too careful. Well, you can always tell the person that has the table in that spot that can see all the doors. You know that that person is a control freak. I don't like people standing behind me. This episode is brought to you by the 90.

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My husband and I, he's so good. My husband's a shopper. He's like so fun. He loves fashion, which is awesome. But he is better at getting rid of things than me. He immediately, you know, the second it's time, he moves things out to move things in, which is a great practice. And then he'll usually have someone that can wear his size and they get to benefit from that and that makes them feel good. And me, I have a constant rolling rack of things going out so that I know. And you can either give them away to a shelter or two. a women's, you know, somebody who's leaving in the middle of the night and can't take their clothes and they need clothes for a job, you know, and they would never be able to, you know, have a great outfit for their interview. And so a lot of people are trying to do that, you know, give the clothes in a way that will benefit someone who's been through some tough times. And I think after being a single mom and going through that, my brain always goes to those things.

Let's go do that, you know. A lot of your content I've seen has gone viral or it's been a lot of shares, what is the thing that has resonated the most with your audience? It's funny. You know, you never know. I always think there's going to be like some recipe, but I think it depends on the moment of whoever that person is and what they're feeling. Yeah. They always love the pictures of my fruit and my flowers. They always love that. I freaked out when I saw that. My love of animals is very strong. We, we have dogs. I'm a huge supporter of animals. And, and so that always rings true. but I think it's all about clutter.

They want to talk about clutter, which is so good because clutter really fogs and clogs our brain. And so part of everything, and I want people to understand, is we have got to find a way to let go of things because we're holding on to them for a reason. Like, for me, I had a scarcity problem because I was living on the edge and didn't have much. And so I realized I was holding on to edge,

everything because I thought, well, what if something changes? And I can't buy it or I can't have it. And I thought, well, this is ridiculous. You know, you know things are different. You know who you are. You know you'll be fine regardless of what happens. Let it go. And so now, that's why I'm constantly letting things go. And I have a saying, it's reframe your brain and rethink your heart. I had Chris and Isabel when I wasn't home. I took my son to karate yesterday. And I said, through my whole closet and pull every single thing out that's not a 10. Yes. I said if it's not a 10.

And I feel like when they when they did that yesterday, I didn't even want to look at the stuff. Sorry, Michael. I just wanted fresh. And I feel like it opens portals. Well, I think like having somebody else help you with that with fresh eyes where it's like, hey, it will just pick on clothing for a second. Maybe something looked good on you five, 10 years ago. And now you're like holding onto it because it reminds you of that time. It's like you're never going to ever wear that again.

There's a shirt she pulled out and I go, why did you pull this shirt out? It's this gorgeous yellow, beautiful shirt. Yeah. And I thought she was going to be like, I didn't know what she was going to say. And she goes, the callers really dated. And he's right. I would never have looked at it from that perspective with fresh eyes. I would have just been like, I love the shirt.

I love the material. I love the brand. But she saw it as the collar looks old. Or there's stuff in the house where like you have a fixed cost of what you spent on an item from a long time ago. Yeah. And this is like, I guess just more like a. of like a finance business mind, but you're not now accounting for like the diminishment of the value of that product. And so you're holding, it's like, I spent $300 on it. It's like,

well, today it's worth $3. Okay. Right? So it's like, you know what I mean? Like you hold to the value that is just not there anymore and something that you're also not going to use. All right. So I'm going to answer your question first. Yes. You're holding onto the old part of you. Yeah. That doesn't serve you any longer. And so your memories that you're tying to close are are something that you hold near and dear to yourself for whatever reason. Again, but we got to go much farther back, but we won't do that today unless you want to. Sure.

Oh, shall we? We're going deep? I don't know. You think like the clothes represent I'm holding on to an identity of myself from a long time ago. Or something that either didn't serve you or something that you're still missing. Huh. Huh.

And it could go back to your childhood. It could go back to the color. It could go back to all of those things. That's interesting. I'd have to, I feel like I'd have to do a big deep dive on that. It was not pale pink that I don't like. Okay.

It was yellow. Okay. Yeah, it was a yellow shirt. So it wasn't pale pink, it's yellow. Maybe you got to examine both colors. So it's interesting that you wanted to hold on to the pale shirt, pale yellow shirt. I know. I wonder why.

Okay. So when was the first time you remember ever seeing that color? You know, what's funny is it was on one of my favorite vacations. So I'm holding on to that vacation, I think. And how old were you? Probably like four years ago. It was our vacation, maybe two years ago. When we were in Italy at the lemon restaurant.

I have an attachment to lemons. In Capri? Look at that. Do you see that? We have attachment to lemons too. Lemons remind me of my mom. Huh. That could be why.

That's interesting. Yeah. Weird. So you need lemons in your life. I need, can you send me, can you do me a favor after this episode goes live? I was going to ask you this. Can you do a kitchen installment mollified? Yeah. That's yellow. Lemons. Well, I'll tell you what. Once you move and settle and do whatever it is, you're, can you come mollify. I will come and do that with you. Like lemons. We can do like a little wheel. If you want to do lemons, we'll do lemons. We'll work on it. I think you need nature too. Yeah. I think you need. nature. My friend Mark brought this gorgeous plant into our house over the summer. I don't know what it was called. I need to get the name of it. And it reminded me of you. It's like almost a tree. Yeah. And everyone in New York City has this tree in their house. Do you know what I'm talking about? Interesting. No. It's the one with the big sticks that are pointing out of the big tall base. I'm going to what it's called before you late. A lot of like big orchids.

No, it changed the whole kitchen though. So I know what you're saying about nature. I got to get you the name of this tree. Yeah. He's probably listening to this. I'm like, what these guys talking about? No, it was a gorgeous tree. You know, I was going to try to describe it, but, you know, it was a beautiful. So we need to let go of things because we're holding on to an old identity that's not serving us to let new things in. Right. But it reminds, now that we're talking about, it's reminding you of your mom, I want you to maybe realize that no matter what, your mom is still living or past. Past.

Okay. So maybe that's why I'm attached to the color of the shirt. Yes. And I think what you need to realize is she's still with you always. And the shirt has nothing to do with it. Right. But the color reminded you of her. And somehow letting go of that was difficult for you.

So weird. Yeah. Another one that we got rid of is a leather jacket that you got me. What color was that? Black. But I was attached to Michael. It had to do with Michael. Because Michael, it wasn't my first leather jacket, but it was a leather jacket.

There's one leather jacket that I haven't let go. Okay. Yeah? Why are you letting it go? I don't know. It's just like my lucky leather jacket. Oh, well, okay, wait. Lucky leather jacket is, that's a hard one to let go.

Yeah. It's been like everywhere with me. Like, it's also one of those ones that I've worn so long for so many years. It's like, it's molded to me. Well, that's, but there's nothing wrong with that. Yeah. That one is cool. Does it still fit you with those muscles?

It's, it's getting harder for it to fit in me. But, no, but I feel like, you know, like that one is not because of some, it's just it's a, I just consider it my lucky one. So what you're doing is you're putting your good luck on that jacket. No, but I haven't worn it. in a long time, but it's just like... You do know that it's not the jacket. Yeah, I know. I know.

You know what else I was going to do with that one, though? I was going to give it to one of my sons. Because my dad, when I was a kid, gave me some. He's too big for me. Oh, there it is. That's the attachment. Oh, my gosh. But I was thinking I might give it to one of the...

There's one. But the other stuff, I'm a big fan of kind of like going through. Yeah. But you just... That's amazing. So your father, you want to do the same thing with your son. That makes sense. That's why you're holding onto the jacket.

Even though it's your lucky jacket. That's why you're holding on to it. I thought it's cool to be like, hey, son, and now there's two of them so we're going to have to fight it out. I'm like, this is the lucky leather jacket. I mean, I look at it like a watch or something like that. It's like an heirloom, but who knows if they've been wanted? You'll probably get another leather jacket.

I've gotten a bunch since I. You wrote a book, Change your home, change your life with color. And I think this is such a perfect time for this book because people were having such a beige moment. Yes. And I would love for you to tell me what that was like for you with someone who loves color when everyone wanted to go sterile beige. Which, by the way, I- Michael doesn't like beige for the record. I love color too. Yeah. Well, you're going to laugh because

you'd be very surprised if you came to my houses. Color? So I bring color in differently than most people in my personal homes. You have to, like everyone says, well, what do I have to have like a purple couch? And I have to have this and I have to have that. I said, no. What you do is you have to decide what's important to you. Do you like to change your house every often? I believe, well, my mother-in-law made this great comment to me once. And of course, I bring it up all the time whenever I'm feeling like I want to change something. But it's true. And I believe it. She said, she goes, now, Molly, she was Southern. She said, every seven years, you're going to make a change. And I said, what do you mean? And she said, you got to mix it up. You got to refresh because when you do that, it refreshes the house, it refreshes the energy, and it refreshes the marriage. I do. think that the way you keep your home says a lot about you as a person. A thousand percent. I mean, to me, my number one most important thing is I want to be able to detox in my home. And it's a little bit to your point of like, everything's chaotic outside the home. The home to me should be a stabilizer.

It should recalibrate the family. And so it's just interesting to hear that you also think that the home is the most important environment that you are around. It is. Yeah. Hands down. I mean, that's what you want. You want to have that feeling. If you don't feel well, the first feeling you have is, I just want to go home. I want to crawl into bed. I want to be in my space because that's the way home should feel. You should want to rush home to it.

It's like even when you go on a vacation, there's that feeling. If you don't feel it, you've got to change something. And that's you walk in the door and you want, just take a minute and you say, it was a really great vacation, but I'm so glad to be home. I feel like that every time. Do you? Yeah, I feel like that every time. But there has been times in the past and other environments when you don't feel like that.

And to your point, I think if you're somebody who's trying to constantly escape your home, then it's time to make a switch. If you're constantly leaving because you don't like your environment, it's probably not the right environment. And it's probably not just the home. It could be so many things. But yes, the home, I used to do all these things on the doctor's show, like, is your house making you sick? And all of that, you know, it was always from a medical idea. and it's true. I mean, there are things that can happen. You can get in a house and you can't understand where you're always not feeling well. It could be mold. It could be some sort of toxic, you know, environment that's there from before. A little haunted. Yeah. Yeah. That's anything is possible. I went to a hotel and I was told Michael, I said something's really wrong with this hotel. Like, I'm telling you, and I went to the front desk. I said, what did this hotel used to be? Yeah. And they were like a mental institution. What hotel was that? I'm not calling the hotel up. Yeah. I'm not all telling you off here. You know what? You know, it.

Don't because... We didn't stay there. We were eating there. I'm going to fact check you. Yeah, don't call it out because you know what? I'm going to fact check. There's so many people that will get in their car and go there because they want that experience, which is insane. What?

Which is, so, which leads me to a whole different thought. They belong in the institution. Go see you. No, well, so it's kind of like, you know how true crime is such a big deal? I mean, people are just, you know, it's one thing to watch true crime and to understand what it is and you want to see it. but there are young women today that are so fixated on listening to true crime all day long while they work, all day long. Really? I have not heard this. Yes. And so I started checking into it because, number one, I had somebody who was working in my house with my organizational person who's just amazing.

And she was a young girl. And I said, what are you listening to every day? What music you're listening to is she goes, oh, no, I listen to. crime and I said, take the headphones off. And I looked at her and I said, she's like 22. I said, you're listening to true crime. She said, I love it. I said, tell me why you love it. And she said, it just, I'm on the edge. It electrifies me. It's just so incredible. And I love a good mystery. I said, do you know what manifestation is? And she said, yeah, why are you bringing that up? I said, do you know what we appreciate appreciates? I said, what you're listening to all day long, every day is murder. And you get excited when you hear that.

I know you think it's just like you're watching the TV. I know that you just think that you're listening to it and it's not a big deal. But our mind, our spirit, our energy is leaving you when you are listening to this. Did she listen? First of all, she was shocked. And she said, no, no, I don't take it. I said, listen to me. If you hear nothing more from me, she goes, I'll take it out.

I won't listen to it. I said, no, don't do it for me. Do it for you and your brain and your life. Because the last thing you want to do is end up like one of those people on that podcast. I also think if your content is not thought out like your home, your eyes are looking at that content every single day. Your brain is consuming low viability. vibrational content on social media. I think you have to run it like your home.

I star the things that I want to see. Yes. You have to be very strategic about what you're consuming to your point. There was a period during COVID where we got rid of all cable in our house. Wow. Got rid of it. And like no news. And I remember getting people would write in and say like, how are you going to be educated?

How are you going to get your information? And I said like, I don't know. I read a book. I'm like, I don't know if I want that information educated. me. I don't know if that is the productive. And again, like, I think a lot of people, like, at the time, like, how could you be so disconnected? How do you not want to pay attention? But now years later, I think the people, and I guess I'm kind of passing judgment, but the people that got so sucked into the news cycle during that period of time and since then, I don't think

their lives have been enhanced. I think it's, I think it's been rather harmful to a lot of people. But the worst is the subconsciousness of it. If you're just listening passively, Yes. And the news is just on in the background over and over and over and over and over. What is that training your subconscious? I read this book by Morgan Housel. I think it's called Same as Ever. He's been on the show. And he was basically talking about how in the past the news you would read would be like local newspapers or local. So the chances that something bad happened locally every day were rare. And then it got maybe city, then nationally, then, you know, international. But now he's like, if you turn on the news based on all the information in the world, what are the chances that the news is going to be bad? Pretty much every day. there's going to be something bad. Exactly. So you're feeding your brain with bad stuff constantly. And you know that the odds of seeing good compared to the bad because of the ratings and the way and the things that people pay attention to are very slim. So if I know that I'm going to turn something on, that's going to just feed me scary, bad, harmful information. Like, why do I want to participate? It breeds fear. I mean, think about it. There was a time like when I was a child, long, long time ago. My parents would have the news on for an hour and that would be it. And then they turned it to Lawrence Welk or whatever, Marcus Welby or,

shows you've never heard of. And then it was a whole different situation. Today, the news comes so fast. Yeah. Something can happen and it's real time and we're bombarded and our kids get bombarded and they learned about it at school and it's just so crazy that we've got to shut off the TV every now and then and we need to turn on the music. I had a couple that I was working with and they said, we just, ma, we just keep forgetting to turn on the music at five o'clock every day. We get home. I said, well, then work on that because it's really important. So then when I saw them the next time, I said, how's it going? They said, you know what? We kept forgetting. So we put it on a timer. And I said, that is brilliant. And then their music came on and that was their cue. It was time to shift.

It wasn't about what was happening in the world or on the news. It was about them, the two of them. And what they were going to talk about and what they were going to, you know, communicate about. And what did they have to look forward to? Those are the important things. we can only control our own homes and raise our children with a different awareness. The news and even social media and the internet, all these platforms do a good job of trying to convince you that every problem is your problem. Yes. Right? And like not every problem can be your problem.

And I know sometimes that sounds out of touch or maybe harsh, but every single thing going on in the world may not actually be your problem and you may not actually be able to do anything about everything that's going on in the world. Now, there's some things you can maybe do something about, then go do something about those things. but the other things, I just, I don't like to live in the camp that like every single issue needs to be an issue that you care about. Well, when people are doing nothing but watching that, you know, what's happening to the elderly community and my mom when she was alive, all she watched

was CNN. Right. All she watched all day long, I'm like, mom, this is not good. She said, you don't understand. It's like going to be the end times and this is what's happening. And this was, you know, 10 years ago. And I would tell her, I said, mom, we're going to get something else for you to watch. You know, we're going to, where I'm going to get you something so that you can watch and, and try to change that. But we're just stuck. The news was the way everyone lived. They, they couldn't wait until the 5 o'clock news or the 6 o'clock news or the 10 o'clock news to hear what's going on in the world. But anymore, all you have to do is look at it, read it, and move away from it. Before you go, you have to tell our audience one mall tip. How can they

mollify their home tomorrow. Give us one little takeaway that's really easy. I would say bring that nature into the house. You're into the it's, I thought you were going to say bring a bowl of lemons, bring a bowl of blueberries. You want the green. I want, I want you to go for the green first. Okay. Okay. And, and. I'm doing the apples. I'm getting the watermelons. I'm getting the limes. Because it's just going to add nature and balance to the way your home feels. What's the plant that I buy for the middle of the table? you got to tell me the plant well it depends i mean sunflowers you pull the things out oh yeah sunflowers but i always kind of go with the yellow for a day or so and then i pull the petals so we you could do

sunflowers and lemons and different things like that and then shift to the green but but the tree always works the tree always works so we'll work on it you got to tell you got us text me are you finding trees that can survive indoors are you finding things that anything can survive indoors if they're taken care of okay you know i think that's the important thing and i love love trees in the house. I love windows so I can see the trees outside. I think we should all in a perfect world and not everybody can feel like when they walk in from the outside that they still have that nature surrounding them because it's peaceful. It's great for the air. It's healing. It's alive. You know. So when you see a tree in the house with a bowl of... I'm all four-plains. I like plants in the

house. I think you should have several trees. Yeah. I like plants in the house that can live well in the house. I'm putting it on my to-do list right now. And get a remote, get a gas log set and get a remote for your fireplace. The place we're remodeling and moving to we have, they can click it open. Good. Press the button. What about in your bedroom? Yeah.

You can do it in the bedroom too. Okay. That's what you want. A remote. Yeah. And put your music on a timer and have playlist. I will say one more thing. When you come home to your kids and your animals or whatever, there's people who walk in the door and they drop their briefcase and the kids jump off the floor and they're like,

mom or dad's home. It's not been a good day. I really want parents to start having a playlist that they start from the minute they leave the office to the time they go home to prepare them to understand that the kids are waiting. They're super excited. The animals are super excited. And prepare yourself to shift gears from business to parents. I love that advice. How do you put the playlist on from in the car? I can only do it when I'm at the house. Well, the second you walk in. No, can I put my sonos on in that? Oh, but you're saying, no, you can play the playlist, but you can also play the same when you get home. By the way, are you going to give me an A plus at the playlists?

Well, you have a bit of a issue, actually. Oh, okay. Where she does not know how to control the levels of volume or the rooms that things are playing. It's overwhelming. So it becomes like. Can I make a suggestion? Sure. Unbalanced.

Again, just like the lighting so that you have your own switch and that you have the lights the way you like it when you want it. I mean, you got to have a party ready switch, right, where everything dimmed. down and it's really cozy, which should be every night. Okay, you've got to tell me what that's such as. So you need to talk to your lighting guy. That's the first thing I want people to do is to understand that you can have an entertainment level, you can have a Lauren level, you can have a morning level, you can have it in the house.

Yeah. And then you're going to do the same thing with your music. You can control the volume of your music in every single room in your house. You hear that? By hitting it different buttons. And it can be done. And so if the wiring's being done, you tell them that you want to have controls. So when you do have a party, you know, you want it playing outside, inside.

Make sure you add speakers on your driveway. When people arrive, you want people to hear music before they walk into the house. It's really a wonderful thing. But even when we lived in a condo, like they have these bulbs now that you can control with an app and they can change. Like, you know, you can do this. Like there's all sorts of technology. I can't breathe without music in my house. I want music from the second my eyes open to the second I go to bed and then I want frequencies.

There you go. I like music, but it's just got to be the... Your dad visited us and he came out and he said, Lauren, I love how you play that jazz in the morning. Yeah, that's because when it's blaring loud, he can finally actually hear it. I said, Gary, sorry the news isn't on. He's used to the news all day long.

That's true. Yeah, he's probably in culture shock. No, I just got to give you a tech tutorial, I feel like, Lauren. No, I'm just going to get a remote. Make it, no, make it simple so that when you go to the screen on your wall or on an iPad, It's a button. They have it. So the levels are right for you and the levels are right right for both of you.

And the levels are right for you. You can't do it on the phone now? I can't wait for you. But she does that thing where like it'll, she'll play it and it's perfect in one room and blaring in another. Well, you know, there can be a sense of balance with that depending on because you want to hear it coming from here. But you want to have a conversation in the other room. So I understand that. Yeah.

Where can everyone find you and follow you on Instagram? I would definitely recommend going to your page. It's very calming and amazing. Thank you. And also I want to say I've got a new podcast coming out in the next couple months. Tell us. And it's called the mall house. Cute.

And it's all, yeah, it's about all things, Mallhouse, my belief and how we all need to live. And it's backed in science. It's not just in my head. But you know what? It's really amazing when science backs up all my crazy thoughts I've had all these years. And we're going to go drink vodka, your son's sipping vodka. Yes, my son's sipping vodka. Costa Elione.

It's made in Greece. It's pure. It has kosher status. You got all the things. And it's global. And then where can they find you on Instagram? Oh, mall at mallanderson.com. Thank you, Mal.

Thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me. Thank you for having me. The show here. Anytime.