The Bossticks - Hrush Achemyan - On How To Never Take No For An Answer & Pursue Your Dreams With Passion

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

#264: On this episode we are joined by celebrity make up artist Hrush Achemyan. Hrush has worked with some of the biggest names in entertainment including the Kardashians. Today she joins the show to discuss how to build a business chasing your passion, how to create demand for yourself, and how to never take no for an answer. We also discuss how to overcome childhood adversity and persevere through the challenges thrown in our paths.  To connect with Hrush Achemyan click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis and we also now get our wine at Thrive! They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices.  Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinny to select your preferred memberships package and start saving today! This episode is brought to you by Joovv. Experience the benefits of red light therapy by one of the best in the business; JOOVV! To experience the Joovv and receive a free gift with purchase go to joovv.com/skinny Produced by Dear Media

The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

As long as the world keeps spinning, you are not the best in the world. There's always something to learn, even if you pick up like a tip from another article. or anything like that, just keep changing the way you do makeup. Don't keep it the same because someone else is going to catch up to the same way that you do it. And then guess what? That's all you have. Hello, hello, hello. Happy Friday.

That clip was from our guest of the show today, Harouche. She is a major celebrity makeup artist and beauty influencer. I'm sure you've seen her all over Instagram. And I am Lauren Everett's Bostick, the co-host of the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. And I'm Michael Bostic. Lauren, I should have given you some headphones to this episode. You almost just blew my fucking ear drums out with the coming. You were really close to that, Mike.

I can't hear myself, Michael. I know. I should have given you headphones. Guys, we are, you know, this is, now I'm missing the studio. Now I'm missing the studio. I was like, okay, this is kind of fun. We're all at home. We're all quarantined.

We're going to do like the home studio set up. Now I'm like, I miss the studio because my, I think I have to have ear surgery. I think you're actually going to have to pause the episode for one second and let Pixie go pee. Oh my God. Here, how about this? How about you just entertain our audience for a second while? See, this guys, this is why I miss this.

I got to get up. I got to let the dog out while Lauren. So, you know, just bear with us, everybody. Duty calls. So while Michael lets the dogs out to go to the bathroom, I just want to tell you guys about what I'm drinking because it's kind of fun. So I'm drinking in apparel sprits. I was inspired by What's Gopi cooking latest cookbook.

I showed it on my stories last night, but I got a couple questions about how I was making the apparel sprit because I had fun with it. So you know you add apparel. I like a dry champagne. Shout out to Jewel the Bee who told me about. dry champagne in apparel spritz. It makes all the difference. I do not like a sweet champagne in apparel sprits. And then I did a little soda water on top. And I actually added some Ashland tangerine on top too. And it is like the best mixture. And instead of an orange slice, I garnished it

with a grapefruit slice. So I just thought I would share what I'm drinking right now. How was the filler content while I got up and got it. Was it fun? I don't know. How did it do? Hopefully people got a drink recipe. Right in. Let us know how the filler content made it. You know, guys, And I think, you know, the dog was a false alarm. I think she, you know, we shut the door to block the noise and she didn't really have to go. She just wanted the option. She's like her mother. Thank you.

She wanted the option. She didn't really need to. False alarm. I want it all and I want it delivered. Okay. Who is Harush? Harush is a celebrity makeup artist and a beauty influencer. She has a super interesting story about how she got started.

She truly is the definition of a hustler. She's worked on huge celebrities. And I mean huge. I'm talking J-Lo, Kim Kardashian, Kylie Jenner, Chloe Carter. And you've seen her all over Instagram. If you want to check her out on Instagram, her handle is at styled by Harush, where she has millions of followers. She also has a sunglass line called Seawares.

So check her out. I've worn her sunglasses on my stories before. And her YouTube is popping. Definitely stalk her. And with that, let's welcome Harush to the skinny confidential, him and her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. Okay. So for those who are unfamiliar,

with you. I mean, I'm sure they've seen you on Instagram. Can you take us back to before you did makeup? Take us back into your childhood. Was it something you were always interested in? Taking Harush back into her childhood, she was a very interesting child. My parents would describe me like very filled with energy, would do very random weird things all the time. And I wanted to do 100 things at one time. I think that's like where my push came from in general. like in life as an adult, like how I can like manage so many different careers because I wanted to be in like tennis classes. Even though I was the violin that I wanted to learn how to play, I really sucked at it. So my mom switched me to the flute. So I was in like ballet classes, karate classes, like

always like doing the most. And I think where my like love for makeup came from is I was in dance. from five years old to 20 years old. I got like very good when I was 15 years old and I started competing like nationwide and just like sitting back like because we were in a group with like diverse age groups and just watching like the older prettier girls do their makeup and I'm like so I think that's where it came from and I would steal my mom's makeup in the fourth grade like her little Estee Lauder and Lancom like you know like sample shit that they give you if 40 purchase and more. I would jack that and then go to school and like literally use like the thing, the little cotton swap thing. Me and my friend would like share it, mix it in colors. And I thought like

I looked good, but obviously not. So when did you come to L.A. from somewhere? Yeah. I was born in Armenia. I moved to the United States when I was 16 illegally. Illegally. Walk us through that. Yeah. That's got to be an interesting story. It's a hell of an interesting story. So I was born in at the Soviet Union. And during that time, it was communism. So during the fall of communism, there was no currency in Armenia for about maybe a year. So it was like mass chaos. As you can, like, imagine there's, you can't purchase anything.

There's no, literally imagine if the United States, like, your currency doesn't matter anymore. It just becomes everybody's becomes worthless. Yeah. So the rich doesn't matter. The poor doesn't matter. It was just like chaos. And what happened was my dad was in the Russian military. So he like basically gave all the land he owned, including like my mom's engagement ring, her wedding ring, everything like that for them to fly us to the United States.

So I was brought here on a military plane. Oh my God. Did you guys land in L.A.? And so your life in L.A. began. And my dad came here with six people with $40 in his pocket. Wait, so your dad was able to negotiate himself and his family to get on a military plane that lands. And so what happens when you get here? Do you have any infrastructure? Do you have any people you can call on? Yeah, we had like far relatives. So we all had to like split apart. And like I lived with my cousins for a little bit.

They were like scared if they caught us or something like that. Until I would say like the age 11, my dad like really, really worked hard. He had three jobs. And made sure that my mom went to school. She became like a criminologist for the DCFS service. It's like a government job. So she worked with family and children's services, so meaning like abused, raped, like if someone's parents uses drugs and just like neglects their children. So she would be the one that would like go in and take the kids out, kind of like a social worker. But like it was her position to remove the kid and then place the kid in a group home or find like adoptive parents. I love hearing stories like this because I think a lot of times we take it for granted being born in the United States, you know how much is already set up for us. Right? I think a lot of people, even with all the problems this country can have,

it's still a very fortunate place to be born. When you hear stories like that, it really puts a thing in perspective because it sounds like you and your family really had to struggle there for a long time. Definitely. We lived in the ghetto. So when did you start to really hone in on doing makeup? I was 17 years old. I think that that's like, I've always worked. I remember like even illegally working when I was like 15, 14, just because I just took example for my dad and I was like, I need to make money. I need to support my family. So my first job was at the Disney store. And I lied about my age and they didn't check. I fucking love the Disney store. What the fuck happened to that? They used to have so much cute stuff. Like the nightgowns and everything. I know.

They'd have different sections like for each princess. Yeah, it was actually really fun. Yeah, it sounds fun. Playing with kids all day long. So when you started doing makeup, was there social media or is this you just started doing people's faces? So the way it started was I actually wanted to be a designer like my whole life. I was like, I'm going to be a designer. I'm going to be a designer. And my best friend's father owns a hope coutoir attelier. And he was just like, you can come and like kind of like learn what I'm doing. And I would do his sketches for him. So when I would do the sketches, he'd always be like, you concentrate more on the face like of the sketch, verse. versus what I'm asking you to do on the silhouette of the body.

And I'm like, you're just a fucking hater. You're scared I'm going to take your job one day. You know? And he's like, no, you're actually very talented at makeup. And I'm like, whatever. And I just knew always how to do makeup because of dancing. I needed to know how to do stage makeup. And he's like, no, you're really good at it.

Like I have a feeling that this is like your calling. And I'm like, yeah, I'm good at it. But it's like, how far can you get with makeup at that time? And then so one day a bride that he was fitting for their wedding day came in. It was like, I don't know, she was like a princess of somewhere from like the Middle East. And I don't know what happened to the makeup artist. I think she got into a car accident and something like really crazy happened. She didn't, wasn't able to show up.

And then the bride was hysterical. And my friend's dad was just like, oh, wait a minute, I have a makeup artist for you. and literally sent his assistant to get like a little caboodle set with like the cheapest makeup in life, like in it as fast as he could. And he like literally threw me in the dressing room and he was like, do her makeup. I remember like shaking. And I'm like, oh my God. It's her wedding day. It's not like a trial. It's not her sweet 16. It's not her birthday party out of clubs. It's not Halloween. It's her wedding day. So I did my best and I remember like crying so much after. because I was like, I fucking ruined her life.

Listen, no royal family had you killed, so you must have done okay. You should do a 10-year challenge on your Instagram and show her and like show what you're doing now. I bet it's wild. I'd be so embarrassed. Like, I didn't know what blending was. Oh. It was just stripes all across the face.

So when did you start to get momentum with your career where you were like, oh my God, I'm on to something. This is what I should be doing. This is my calling. Let me take a quick break here. Guys, we've been talking about this company for a long time. I really didn't want a world pandemic to have to highlight how amazing this company is. But here's where we are.

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No online. It was all private bookings and it was all word of mouth. And so when does social media come into play? Social media comes into play six years later for me. So I would already be fully booked where like I was at a point of exhaustion. I was making so much money at that age. None of my friends were making money like that. And there was like a point period where even my father's like, what the fuck are you doing with your life? I was a bio major. and he's like, you need to be a pharmacist. Like, you need to finish school. And, like, just to be spiteful to him, I was like, fuck you, I'm dropping out. That's tough with Armenian immigrant dad that's kind of working his ass, busting his ass, and putting his daughter, he wants her to go through the traditional school path.

I think there's so many people probably listening that have that pressure as well. Yeah. And if you would have done that, you probably wouldn't be nearly as successful as you are now. I wouldn't have. And I think that, like, not only Armenian culture, just Eastern European, Middle Eastern culture, have the same like family pressures. Like you either have to be a lawyer, doctor, or I don't know.

For me, it was always a lawyer or doctor. Which is like the 1% of people that actually become those things. So that pressure is, that's intense for young people to go through. It really is. It's not realistic for everybody. I know.

I thought that I was doing the right thing by going to school, but I hated every moment of it. And once I think like I saved over 100,000 doing just makeup. And mind you I was charging $40 at the time in my bedroom, which is different than what you charge now. Oh, very different. You charge $40 to apply one fake individual eyelash.

It's more than that. I'm joking. No, but I mean, do the math there, $100,000 to $40. I mean, that's a, you're doing a lot of makeup. Yes, I had to work a lot. So once I reached that goal and I was like, if he throws me out, I have enough money to, like, sustain myself. and he was just like, he didn't talk to me for like a year because he's like, you're servicing other people. I didn't work this hard for you to like go be a servant, basically.

Like he like viewed the profession as me cleaning floors, basically. Little did he know you were building a brand. What does that do for your relationship with him? I think now, like fast forward to now everything I say is golden because like. Because you were right, because you proved that. That's the way that if you actually prove your right, I mean, that's the pressure as well, though, because if you don't prove you right, that conversation is a lot different.

And I think, like, what impressed them was, like, the work ethic where I did it, like, without any help, like, if anything, he had, like, pressure, doubt in my mind and, like, throughout the years of, like, what I built. Like, I think it really impressed him because he's, like, wow, like, everyone was against you. And look what you built for yourself, by yourself. I have a question about this. that's really interesting to me. The problem that you probably ran into is that people want you. You can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't,

a hundred people to do what you do, but people still are going to want you. So how did you learn how to scale that? I think I trained about five girls very, very well throughout like a span of years. Not like, sometimes everyone's like, oh, I want to be your makeup assistant. I'm like, but do you have what a takes. Like a lot of people think that they know what they want until they step into the lion's den and they're like, oh, it's not as glamorous as it looks. I'm like, yeah, you have to break your back to like make it in this industry. So I feel like when I like look for makeup assistants, I always look for like bulls, like somebody like me that can push through any obstacle, like versus like people that kind of ask questions too much or how do I do this? How do I do that? I'm like, oh, I have to

let you go. They don't have to figure it out. We got to, my theme of everything when I have a daughter is resourcefulness and figure it out. You got to figure it out. Yeah. We have Google now. Yeah. You know, you got to just figure it out.

And the questions slow the momentum down. It really does. And it just shows me that like I can't be there. So if I'm not there and you can't figure it out, it's not for you. What's the lion's den look like? Like when you say the lion's den, what does that mean? It means sleepless nights traveling back and forth without sleeping and then being able to perform. Like, my job requires me to be happy and putting my personal problems aside no matter.

I basically, like, went through a really, really hard time. I had septic shock a couple years ago. And then I couldn't work for like, I believe, like six months. And it took like such a big hit on me because I was like, oh my God, my finances stop. Like, I have to figure this out. that's when it like really hit me. I need to train these fucking assistants to be able to do certain faces. So then I got smart with and I was like, this assistant I could see is going to be good on this client. So I'm going to teach you solely how to do only this client and I'm going to give

you to this client. Smart. And like I was like I can't ever have that happen to me where like for six months your financials like basically stand still because you're sick. And I think that was like maybe an awakening for me, like where I started the sunglass company, where I started like in the music industry. And I was like, I can't ever just ever have that happen. Yeah. I think people get confused with like solopreneurs, which I would say is like people that are, they're basically their income and their job is solely dependent on them. And entrepreneurs, an entrepreneur's job is really to build a team in an infrastructure that's not solely dependent on them. But people, they don't realize like if you create that structure and then something like what happened to you happens,

that starts your business down completely. It really does because my business was solely. ran on me. And that's when it hit me with a brick that no, no, no, no, I need to get this all together. Also, I don't think people realize this one element of being a makeup artist. You have to have the right energy. When someone's doing my makeup and their energy is off, as someone who's getting their makeup done, you can feel it. And they're so close to your face and in your personal space that that's really important. How do you find people with the right energy? Because that's, You have to have the craft and the talent and all that, but you also have to have the right energy, too. People skills.

I always have them assist me first, like personally assist me and, like, I'll slowly break them into assisting me with clients. And if someone starts irritating me personally assisting me, and I'm a very, very patient person. So if you're getting on my nerves, God knows what you're going to do to, like, a celebrity. Who was your first celebrity? Kim Kardashian. She was your first. Why did you start with someone so unknown? I don't know what just happened to me.

I know. That's pretty. How long ago? Five, six years ago. So she was starting out, not starting out, but she was not like. She was pregnant with Saint at the time. Okay, so she was a pretty big celebrity. Yeah.

And so when you get hooked up with Kim Kardashian, is that pressure to do her makeup? I mean, that seems like out of everyone in the world, that seems like the most pressure. I didn't know. was her until she walked into the room. Oh, someone just booked and said, we have a client for you. Yeah. And I was like, huh?

Were you freaking out? Yeah, I think I forgot how to do makeup that day. But you make her look so beautiful. I mean, she is beautiful. Thank you. The way you do. It's not that hard, I promise. I don't think it's that hard with how beautiful they are.

But all the Kardashians, whenever you do their makeup, it's so beautiful. Thank you. So when you're working with her, I'm sure you're like getting business tips too. Yeah. Because what she's built, to just be, like, surrounded by all these people, too, it's probably helpful to your own business. It's empowering, honestly. Like, just to see such a strong female unit is an amazing example.

And I think I've learned so much from them from business. Their mom, I don't know why, like, she's not at the level of, like, to me, I don't know, Elon Musk or something. because like what she's done to the entertainment industry. There'll be case studies on her eventually. They'll be books written about it for sure. Yeah, because the way she just went in and was like, this is all mine now. Goodbye. She's such a fucking boss.

I know, I'd die for her. She's the best. So after Kim's makeup, were you doing other celebrities or did you just stick with the Kardashians? I stuck with the family, as you can imagine, that many girls to do will definitely keep you busy and I'm a very like loyal person because it opened up so many opportunities with brand deals and so on and so forth. So it's like they're the reason why, you know, that I've been given this opportunity. So why am I going to take somebody else instead of them? So for a time being, I would like decline really big names because I don't believe in like canceling on clients. Like if someone

books me far in advance, I'm not going to cancel you because like someone crazy is trying to book me. But then, by the way, never was with an agency. Wow. Did this all on my own. And just my, so Michael understands that's a big deal because most talk. Near impossible. Yeah, it's near impossible. Most makeup artists are with the wall group, right?

Mm-hmm. Law group, Starworks. There is the only, there's a bunch of agencies. And so typically celebrities, they only go through the agencies to get to women like you. Yes. Okay. She found me on Instagram. Wow.

So she slid in the DM. You know what's funny? No, no, she didn't. It was just an email that I got. I guess, because I had like the contact info on my bio. We are going to take a quick break to talk about something that people are struggling with in quarantine and that is not enough daylight. So we're inside.

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Guys, enjoy. So makeup by Ariel, I like randomly found on Instagram probably like eight years ago. Before we were engaged, so. Like a long time ago. Found him on Instagram and I DMed him. I'm like, can you come do my makeup? When he was living in New York. This is before.

And he comes to do my makeup. And he was the first makeup artist that took like four hours on me. And I was like, he's a kid. He's like 17 years old. Maybe younger, actually. Maybe 16. This kid just took four hours on my makeup. It was like the most amazing.

I was sitting there. I'm like, what's, he's like, what's going on? Because my makeup artist here takes an hour and whatever. And he insisted on staying at the shoot and working with me through the whole shoot to make sure every picture looked good.

And it was ice cold. It was winter. And I look at Michael and I'm like, this kid is 16 years old. Like unknown. I think he had like 2,000 followers on Instagram. Next thing I know, it's like crazy. The Kardashians are using them all the time. But my point is, is it seems like they know how.

how to handpick these people that have the hustle that are like a bull, like you said. Yes. You have to be each artist that they work with, their work ethic isn't the same. That's why it's like hard to match. Like, yes, there are a lot more talented artists, but like they're moody or they're arrogant or they're not willing to put in the work. How you said that he stayed and made sure your makeup looks mine. like that's not something that's like required of the job to do but a real artist would make sure

that you look perfect for the job that was hired like throughout the whole thing he just cared about the work he was putting out there was impressive I mean there's so many he told us like I'm gonna go to L.A. I'm gonna fly. I'm gonna do these types of celebrities. He told us that like 16 like okay and the next thing you know he was like kudos to him. It's like it's rare to see somebody that says they're going to do something and actually does it. Yeah. R.L. is a hard worker. I mean I'm not surprised and I bet he hustles his ass off still. If you had advice to someone that wants to get into the beauty industry? What are three tangible tips that you would give them? Number one, never take no for an answer because at one point an agency laughed at me when I

showed them my book and they were like, oh no, this is like too heavy makeup. It's never going to work. This is not what we're looking for. By the way, I just have to say your face, when she walked in, it looks face tuned because it's so beautiful. It looks exactly the same as it looks on Instagram. But going. Fuck all these hos that are telling you no. Nice. Literally. If you want to do.

Fuck all you hos. I don't think that's the first time I've said fuck all you hose on this show. I'll probably get in trouble for it, but it's fine. It's okay. I'll say it for you. I'm used to getting in trouble. Number one, never take no for an answer. Number two, be open to criticism, constructive criticism.

Some people think that they are the best in the world. And that's as long as the world keeps space. you are not the best in the world. There's always something to learn. Even if you pick up like a tip from another artist or anything like that, just keep changing the way you do makeup. Don't keep it the same because someone else is going to catch up to the same way that you do it. And then guess what? That's all you have. Number three, always be organized and always be kind. Don't be like a gossip. I feel like in this industry, people that like gossip get nowhere. I'm sure with celebrities and the Kardashians, you better, like, shut it because that's probably number one requirement.

But, like, I always say it doesn't matter if you're like my next door neighbor or a huge celebrity, if you, like, trust me enough to say something in front of me, like, I'm a vault. Like, it's not going to come out. It's just like being kind as a human. If someone wants to be vulnerable in front of you, why are you going to be evil and hold that vulnerability against them? I think that's rare in L.A. I mean, we're from San Diego and I see like there's a difference just between the three hour distance. Yeah. It's rare.

I think it's, you know the funny thing about L.A. to me is L.A. is filled with tourists, in my opinion. It's true. I think like the real L.A. vibe is like kind of like hipster, hippie. That's like the real Angelina's, you know. And like where I grew up, I don't know, everyone around me was like that too. You know what I think it is with gossip here. it different though is I think a lot of people in LA use people that they know as validation to themselves. And so it's like if you tell me something confidentially and then I have that piece and I can say, oh,

you know, she told me this thing. It's like it almost it's like I'm trying to validate myself that I'm close to you. I think that's the problem with this city is people use other people in order to validate themselves. Not everybody, but it's more common in this city than I've seen in others. Just validate yourself with your hard work. Michael, put your ear plugs on because I'm going to ask a couple selfish questions. I have little giant headphones on that I can hear everything. The under eyes. Yes.

What are the tips and tricks that we can do at home to cover our under eye bags? Because clearly I'm going to have some in a couple days, weeks, seconds. So have you tried the metal spoons? No. What? What's that? It's like literally hidden secret. Unplug your ears because you could try metal spoons.

Just cold metal spoons? So you put metal spoons in like a little ice bucket and you put it inside the freezer. And then not only like your under eyes, you can do it like on your face. Because for me, like this, my nose gets inflamed sometimes like right here. So you use the back of the metal spoons with like a serum and you just like hold it against it and keep massaging it and the bags go away. Ice is the best, huh? That's such a good tip. It is.

And then what about like coverage specifically? Like give us brands that you're obsessed with. Oh, okay. I actually did a YouTube video talking about like all of this from A to. Z. It's called Hirsch's magical powder technique. I'm watching that. Okay. And then it's about coverage, highlight, and color correction and all that. Tart, shape tape is amazing. It can cover a bruise if you want it to. If you know how to like manipulate the product correctly. And to me it's not always like about products. It's the manipulation of the product, the technique behind using it. Speak on that.

Tell us about that. So I think like a lot of times people use concealer and they start blending away immediately. You're never supposed to. Whoops. He always says, you'll have concealer on your neck. Yeah, you're supposed to like place it very thinly and not with the wand. Do you do it with a brush and let it set for a second, like for it to get tacky, kind of like eyelash glue. You wouldn't put eyelash glue immediately on your eye. Same applies with concealer and foundation. So you just like let it like set for a little bit and then you can blend it out so it won't move around and cause the creasing. That's a great tip. So when I put it on, can I apply it with a wand or no? Apply it with a brush. I don't like using the ones. So apply it with a brush. Let it sit, let it get tacky. Like a synthetic flat brush.

And then use a brush to blend it in. You can use like a stippling brush to blend out the outer corners. Okay. And then use a beauty blender to just push in the product underneath your eye. And what are these lashes that you're wearing? Because they're very sultry. They're very sultry without being heavy. Thank you. I like mary. them. I'm going to do like a video on how to make that's, is that the next product I know? Because hopefully that's like the first thing I noticed when you want to. Everyone always says that. All my clients are like, no one can do a lash like you. They're very sexy. I hate when you get a fake lash and it's like weighing down on your eye. Yeah. Or when it's like stuck together. It makes you like junkie like to like that. Yeah. Exactly. Like Medusa from the rescue rangers.

Like it's like hanging off. But another trick, honestly, this is probably going to sound gross. I like you like the third time you use the lashes. is always the best for me. Oh, so save him. Yeah. Normally I just put him on his pillow. No. Save him. Oh, I'm going to save them.

They start looking more natural. Oh, okay. I'll just keep him on your pillow and you can hold it for me. I got a whole collection of those things. He has lashes. One time I stuck him to his ball sack. I've stuck him to his face. There's probably a bunch in this hair of mine.

He thinks they're spiders. I mean, it's amazing. That's everything. What's the weirdest makeup pack? Oh, Tamaric. You can blend it into your eye cream. cream very lightly and it dies underneath your eyes. So if you have dark spots and I recently learned this trick because I twisted, sprained, rolled and fractured my ankle falling down a flight of

stairs. Oh. Yeah. So one of my friends, she's like, this is an old Persian remedy. So they put eggs and mixed it with a lot of tamaric and made it into a paste and it literally took away the swelling. And I was like, hmm, maybe I should do that on my vagina after I gave birth. Probably. Yeah. Wait, so you just take eggs, egg whites or the whole egg? No, two egg yolks. Two egg yolks. Yeah. With tamaric. With turmeric, mix it up. It takes down swelling, like on another level. How long do you leave that on? For nine hours. You can have sex with me with a turmeric vagina and it can get all over your penis. But it dies the skin. That's where I was like, oh, wait, yellow cancels out. Dark spots. So how long does it, how long until the dye goes away?

And how long do the color? Mine is kind of still there. I mean, I just got off the boot like two, three days ago. So it dyed my nail polish too. Well, you know what works as dye. Yeah. What's a Kardashian makeup secret that they're obsessed with? Like, highlighter tip or like an eyebrow tip or like lashes?

Honestly, I feel like they're so open with all their tips that there is no secret. Like everyone always asks me that question. I'm like, bro, they put it all out on their apps. Like remember the time when they had their apps, they literally would like, those were their secrets. You know what they've done for the makeup in styling industry and hair industry? And I'm sure you would agree with this is they, I feel like before them, everyone was like hush, hush with their glam squad. We were all in the closet. Like no one came out and was like, I get glam.

And now getting glam is like getting your nails done. Like, I mean, sometimes I do it three times a week. It saves time. It does. That's really cool that they, like, it's like revolutionized the beauty industry. Yeah. That's awesome. Like, everyone's like an entrepreneur now.

Yeah. I mean, we've talked to so many people like Scotty Chuna who does their hair. He's like, you know, his own entrepreneur. Like all these different people are like known as entrepreneurs, which is so cool. Yeah. Can you tell us about your sunglass line that you launched? Yes. So the sunglass line happened.

I'm coming out with another line that's actually. was supposed to be seaware. But the product is literally very difficult to make. And I've been working on this project for about four years now to develop. And fingers crossed, FDA approves it. That's what was supposed to be seaware. And then my business partner was just like, all right, let's just build the brand off of something else. Seawr doesn't have to be one thing. Like, think of it like a department store. Like he got this like idea in my hand. He's like, you're a trying to give every, like what my goal would CWR was is like, I have so many young followers that can't afford like the things I'm putting out there. And I'm very big on like, I think after

what happened to me with like septic shock, I almost died. I almost had my leg amputated at 17 surgeries. Like it was really crazy. And after that, I was like, what can I do to serve the audience that's been so loyal to me? And like, that's where I started like, do. And, like, that's where I started like, doing YouTube and just like really, really being honest where like against the advice of like publicist, like no, you don't have to like disclose that. I'm like, who the fuck am I hiding from? I don't give a fuck. Like I'm not ashamed of my truth. So here it is. You don't like me. Fuck you. And if you like me. Hello, I love you. Can we like pull that clip and put it on repeat over and over and over again? I agree with you. Yeah. So I think that's when I felt comfortable to do YouTube.

And at first I was like, oh, these nasty comments. And I'm like, bro, go to church. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're so nasty. And, like, in a way, like, I almost feel bad for people that say nasty things because you know that they're just using you as a mirror. It's like they're almost saying it to themselves because. I mean, think about what kind of mind states you have to be into to waste your own personal time and go say bad things.

YouTube is especially nasty though. It's more nasty than any other platform. It's different than it. Because it's one of the platforms where there's not, you know, you can't like click and be like, oh, who's this? Like, Instagram, you got to be careful unless you have a troll account. People are going to look you up and they're going to call you out. You know what I do? I don't read my comments on YouTube.

But I want to. Everyone keeps selling me that, but I want to because there's so much love in the comments that I want to show my appreciation. Yeah. To the people that are there supporting me. And I want to read what they want to see from me. So like, I want to give them content that they want. Like, I'm not like just pulling ideas out of my asshole. Like, it's just, I'm, it's just, I'm.

If I'm seeing a repetitive, like, want, then I'll give it. But I remember this one girl, like, I just like, I was like, you know what? I'm going to clap back in my own way, like, to just put them to shame. Like, not in a nasty way, but just, bro, you're stupid. Like, someone was like, oh, you have a sponsorship for Sigma brushes. You're such a liar. Why don't you say it? And I was like, have you ever had a sponsorship deal?

Do you know how they work? You know how much trouble I can get into by not saying it's an ad? And I don't know if you know this, but in the contract of any sponsorship, it says if you are promoting our product, you cannot promote a competitor brand in the same video or even like months apart or weeks apart. Yeah, you just hit him with logic. Yeah. They went and deleted the comment. Yeah, they went and deleted the comment. Or like somebody was just like, you're so scary looking.

If I was your husband, I would commit suicide. And I was like, thank God I'm not married. No. Thank God you're not my husband. I know. And it's like you are so sick in the head for suggesting suicide for anyone for appearance purposes. Let's say if I'm ugly to you or if I'm not appealing to you, like are you okay? Are you having thoughts of suicide that you're implementing somebody else commit suicide?

Yeah, deflection. But you know, like I think one thing you said in there, like there is a silver lining is, you know, I think with the media today and with everybody, a lot of people focus on the negativity. but I think one thing smart that you do is you go and find the positive comments in YouTube. It's important to read those. Because I find that it still is a very small demographic of negative hurt people. It's like 10%. Yeah. The other 90 are there and they're spreading positivity.

Yeah. So when you launched your sunglasses, was everyone obsessed because I have your sunglasses. I love the aviators. You love the hungovers. The hangovers. It's hungovers or the hangover. Hangover,

the hangovers. The hangovers. I'm not hungover right now, but I can't wait to tell you. They are amazing, right? They are amazing. So did you like get to sit down and design them with a sunglass designer? How did it come about? So we used the sunglass designer and then it took so long to get it right though. I had no idea like how much molds costs and this cost. So it was supposed to be a different product. And then everyone's like my investor partner is a numbers person and he's like, oh, sunglasses do really well. And it makes sense on you because you get so many. sunglasses deals. Then I got two offers for a collaboration for different sunglasses brands.

And I was like, oh, they're not stupid. So they obviously ran numbers. So I must be lucrative in the sunglass world some way somehow, because I always wear sunglasses because being a makeup artist, I look busted 90% of the time when I'm working. Yeah, right. I wear a baseball cap and sunglasses 24-7. Really? Yeah. So you don't show up looking the way you look right now? No. Okay. Because it's like client after client after client. Like I hate wearing makeup under lights because it basically fucks up your skin because it opens up your pores and then the makeup goes into your pores. But you didn't know that tip, Lauren. What?

You got to say that in my skin interview with you after. I didn't know that. She's going to be doing makeup in the dark now. Yeah. No, it's good if it's for like a little bit. But if let's say you're doing six clients under smoldering light, like it's bad for your skin, it's not good. to like wear that much. I did not know that. What does it take to book you now? You obviously have so many years under your belt. You're so talented. You've got your own line. You're an entrepreneur. You're

busy. Momentum. Can you even book you now or is it impossible? No, yeah. People can still book me, but I think it has to be something I'm inspired by. You know, I think before it was just like I was taking so many bookings and kind of like damaged my body where like I have like a pinch nerve. My shoulder like always pops out of place like my leg my knee like so I was like at one point taking 15 clients a day like standing like that so I think I was stupid in that sense when I overdid it when I was like younger in the peak because I was like this is going to end sometime this is going to end sometime you know like I never thought that it would lead to this because of social media but like I was just trying to take as many people as I can where now it just like I have to be careful

with how many clans I take because now I, because of the septic shock, I have autoimmune. And it's like, I can't kind of like exhaust myself. So when I exhaust myself or sometimes when people are sick, I'll, like, my getting sick is me being sick for like three, four months. How do you get septic shock? I got septic shock from having a breast lift and a reduction and they left, I guess, a stitch that wasn't sanitary in my right boob. Oh, man, that's fucked. Oh my God. And left it in for a 11 days and I swear I knew something was wrong. So it just started to hurt? No, I just felt like dizzy, like I was shaking. And I was like, this is not normal. Like don't you get better as time passes by. I've had a procedure before. So like, I know how it works. And I'm like, you feel better as time

passes, not worse. And then it was just, I don't really remember anything after like 11 days. It was just like a fog. What could you have done to have caught that? Like, how would you have even known? If the doctor paid attention. I'm sure he's not happy. That sounds like it's not good for the doctor. Not good for the doctor at all. No, that doesn't sound like he will be wearing your sunglasses. No.

He won't be wearing. Sounds like he'll be paying for some sunglasses. So when did you start to feel better? Was there something that helped that you did holistically or like in the wellness space? I think when I was in the hospital, I was on so much drugs that like I felt like I was going into another world and coming back. And I was like kind of like delusional. I'm like, am I seeing things? Am I not seeing things? Am I seeing things? No, I'm crazy. Like so then I started having like weird dreams after that. Like it was like so bad. Imagine that the hospital sent a priest into

my room with a choir. Wow. Yeah. You look amazing now. Thank you. I mean, I'm really glad that you're all healed. You look like. I know. You'd never know. I know. It was like really bad. What is a book, a podcast, or a resource that you would leave our audience with? I think that it's never too late to reinvent yourself and to try something new. And I think that one thing, like, for a long time, that experience was like, why me? Why did this happen to me? Like, because it, like, really, like, technically handicapped me for a little bit. And I was like, it happened to me because I needed to slow down and use my brain and, like, figure out different ways to become an honest.

entrepreneur and like how to make money work for me versus me working for money and just be a better person honestly because you never know like what somebody else is going through where can everyone find you where can everyone find your eyeglasses and what's next oh you can find the sunglasses at seeware s iware.com were sold out of most styles are they sold out of the one i like the hang the hungover i made sure to like so the way the brand works is like i kind of wanted to do like the supreme motto where like this is what you get once it's gone it's gone okay the hungover is like there was so like a lot of want for them they're so cute so the amount that I ordered like people were questioning my sanity and I was just like how the fuck are you going to sell all these like are you

crazy like big people with big brands don't order this quantity I'm like trust me this is going to be a staple and I'm not a liar. I said once it's gone, it's gone. So I don't want it to be gone for a very long time because I think the way I made these sunglasses, designed them not to like imprint, not to give you a headache because I get headaches a lot. Like when I wear heavy sunglasses, they're like, okay, whatever. So it worked out. We have a whole new collection coming out in 2020, a collaboration with the brand with a very big influencer. Like she's bringing basically her twist on to the brand. So the brand is never going to stay one way. Like the brand, see where it kind of launched, like, I don't know if you saw the party and stuff. Like, I grew up in the hood. So, like,

I wanted to like make sure people understood, like, I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. But then I put the spoon there later on in my life. You can do the same. You put the spoon. I bought the spoon, honey from Tiffany's. Yeah. It's your own spoon. And I dipped into the fro yo and I fed myself. You can do that too. dipped it into the pro, yeah. I have my own spoon, Michael, so don't fuck with me. I have my metal spoon in my eyes. And then I used it on my eyes.

And I bought another spoon from my eyes. You girls have fucking shovels. Yeah, the next purchase is that actually. And where can they find your personal Instagram? My personal Instagram is styled by Harouche. And it's with an H. Yeah. S-T-Y-L-E-D-B-Y-H-R-U-S-H.

My name is very difficult. And I just have to shout out Anna at Pelicure. That's how I was introduced to you. And if you guys haven't gone to Pelicure and gotten a scrub down, you're dirty. You got to go. They scrub your butthole. They get in there. And it is the chicest, cutest, cutest Korean spa I have ever seen in my life.

I know. Anna, we love you. It's amazing. And like every time I go there, I feel like I just, you know, crawled out of my mom's vagina. Truth. I want to go there after I give birth and then red tumorek and my yolks in my hair. vagina. I got you. FaceTime me while you're doing it.

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