The Bossticks - It's TINX On How To Get Over Heartbreak, TikTok Tips, & How To Differentiate Yourself From The Competition

Episode Date: July 26, 2021

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I think there's a lot of disrespect towards the newer platforms. But to me, I think how you stay relevant, how you stay young, like, even as a human being, is you evolve and you learn. I hate that attitude of, even like as a joke when my friends are like, what is, what is TikTok? What is it? The little, like, that energy, I'm like, I'm sorry you are going to get wrinkles and you are going to be in an old folks home by the time you're 50.

Because that is the attitude of like you don't want to learn. You don't want to say, I'm the opposite. I like hanging out with people younger than me. I'm always like, what's the next thing? And if you are snob about it, then that's some deep insecurity that you have. Hello, good morning, good afternoon. I am coming at you live from France. And today we have an episode that I feel like a lot of you guys have been waiting for. I actually put tinks on my story. And you guys were DMing me. You were so excited that we had interviewed her on the skinny confidential him and her podcast. I'm really excited. She's on the show today. And if you're unfamiliar with who she is, she is incredibly. incredibly famous on TikTok. She has 1.2 million followers, and she's considered a big sister to many of her followers, okay? She's known for her parody starter packs, her guides for rich moms, and I feel like

she just gives really great advice when it comes to heartbreak. She's relatable, authentic, funny, in person, same way. I really enjoyed interviewing her, and I think that she's really evolving the space when it comes to content. You should also know that she's a 30-year-old creator, who was raised in London but moved to the U.S. We talk about this in the podcast, and it's kind of incredible because she came to the U.S., no big deal, to attend Stanford University. I mean, she also has a bowl at Chipotle.

I mean, this is like something we have to shout out. It's a burrito bowl. And at L.A.'s Airwain grocery store, she has a namesake smoothie, okay? So you can go order her smoothie. And then she also has a custom Tinks Hot Girl Sunday at the restaurant, Craig's. If you're in L.A., you have to try Craigs, and you have to get this dessert.

With that, let's welcome Christina Tinks to the skinny confidential, him and her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. We have so many questions for you. We are on. Oh, fabulous. Let's hit it. We just go right in. I don't even know where to start with you.

But I guess the best place to start is what was your life two years ago compared to now? So two years ago, I was living in New York. I was finishing grad school. I was at Parsons for a master's in fashion journalism. My whole life, I thought I wanted to be an editorial. I've been a writer since college. That's what I went to undergrad for. I was finishing grad school. I was a little bit lost. I was not making very much money as a writer. I hated New York. I really didn't like it. And I don't like to say that because, you know, every city is someone's perfect city. But for me, I never settled there. So I was like, I need to move back to California. I have. this weird inkling that I should move to LA. So I spent that summer figuring out how I could make it

work. I was writing. I was consulting. I was doing a little bit of this and that. And then almost two years ago, I packed up two suitcases. And I was like, I'm moving to L.A. But I was very lost. And then I moved into a little tiny studio above a strip club on Los Angeles. And the magazine that I was working for called me. And they were like, did you move to L.A.? And I was like, yeah, I did. And they were like, okay, well, you're fired. You can't work for us anymore. We're in New York Magazine. And I was like, okay, well, okay. And then I was like working for a weed company. I was doing consulting. I was trying to write articles, but any freelance journalist knows it's very inconsistent work. And I was like making it work, making it work, figuring it out. But it was a very different life

to the one I have now. So what is the thing that pops the pus? Like what was the first TikTok you put up And did you know what was about to happen? So no. So then I started to really build up my business in the fall of that year and in the beginning of 2020, I was really doing starting to write great articles and consult for a lot of cool brands that I respected. And then the pandemic hit. And obviously nobody wanted articles like, how to match your zodiac sign to your workout leggings. And I was like, okay, well, my family is 6,000 miles away. Nobody wants articles. Nobody needs help with their company right now. I don't know what to do. I'm talking to the walls. And I was like, I'm really enjoying TikTok.

I love creating stuff. I might as well give it a go. I never thought of myself as an on-camera person. I always thought of myself like, I'm the writer, like I'm the funny girl behind the scenes. And I was like, fuck it. Like I really have nothing to lose. And I also don't care anymore. Like if this, I don't care. I have no attachment to the outcome. I feel a strong desire to create and my normal outlet of journalism is taken from me. So I'm going to give it a go. And also in the back of my mind, I was like, damn, I love TikTok. I'm seeing so many like cool dancing videos. And there was definitely comedy on there, but I was like, there's a whole space of content. There's a whole like white space of content that I would like to see. And I always tell people when they're like, what's your tips for

getting started? Create the content you want to see. And I was like, I love celebrity gossip. I love fire product recommendations. I like takedowns of coastal cities, very specific I know. And I like, funny, like character, rich mom, like, you know, just jokey stuff like that. I was like, screw it. The second I made my first TikTok, I was like, I have found my life's purpose. I'm a creator. I didn't see it. Like, I mean, it was all in a way leading to that, but I, I didn't see it. And then all of a sudden it was like the veil was lifted. And I was like, this is my life's work. Do you feel like, I mean, as a writer, you're a creator, do you feel like people like, I feel like a lot of people, they just don't, they look at these new outlets and they're still like a more traditional

out. Like if you're in television or you're in radio or you're in, you're a journalist. Like, there's almost like a disrespect or a disdain for these platforms. So it's like you can't, those are not serious platforms for serious creators or journalists or whatever. Do you feel like that's true? For sure. I think there's a lot of disrespect towards the newer platforms. But to me, I think how you stay relevant, how you stay young, like even as a human

being, is you evolve and you learn. I hate that attitude of, even like as a joke when my friends are like, what is, what is TikTok? Like, what is it? The little like, that energy, I'm like, I'm sorry. you are going to get wrinkles and you are going to be in an old folks home by the time you're 50. Because that is the attitude of like you don't want to learn. You don't want to say I'm the opposite.

I like hanging out with people younger than me. I'm always like, what's the next thing? And if you are snob about it, then that's some deep insecurity that you have. Those are the same people that were mad that like Elvis was shaking his hips. Right. But they're just in a modern age. It's so condescending and it's such bitter energy. And Robert Green just came on this podcast.

He wrote 48 laws of power. And one of the ways that you can be power. is by making fun of what's new and the next and the generation under you and and being bitter about the generation under you. Yeah. You're so right. You have to evolve. But you know what it is?

I have a friend and he has wanted to go into film and entertainment for the longest time, super, super talented. And he was early enough on like when YouTube was just starting to pop. We were all like, hey, like go on YouTube, put your stuff on YouTube. But he had such a disrespect for that platform because it wasn't like the film industry or it wasn't like the way you do the festivals or whatever. he never did it. And like, what's happened over time is he's just kind of doing the same thing and it has a way pop because he's got such a disrespect for this platform. Meanwhile, you get all the

people that started putting that stuff on YouTube and they're just fucking superstars now and they're in all these movies and writing all this stuff. I just think it's such an outdated way of thinking like having, it's just history repeating. Same with podcasts, right? Like a lot of the radio people are like, what the hell is a podcast? It's the same fucking thing. It's spoken audio. It's just much easier to access. It's evolved. It's the new iteration. And if you don't push yourself and if you don't stay engaged and interested, then you're going to have a very boring, sedentary life, I think. I don't even know where to start on TikTok, and I'll tell you why.

I love it. I think it's amazing. I think what you've done is amazing. But it's so hard because I feel like I have 12 years of blogging and podcasting and all this stuff, and it's like, how do you whittle that down to what, like, how do I even know what to post? Do I post my morning routine? Do I post a vlog? Do I post stuff about skin? Do I post our podcast in here? Like, it's, it's very overwhelming. Yeah. So I would love to know any tips that you have for people that feel

like I feel. So I, so three tips that I give people. The first one I already said, create the content that you want to see. Like you're on TikTok, you're a consumer. What would make you stop and say, oh, this is interesting. Let me do that. Number two, this is, it's hard, but I say set a time limit like three weeks a month and promise yourself you're going to post every day every single day come rain or shine and have enough content in the bank to do it. And even if it's like not the best content every day, you have to try it because you learn so much like you learn what hits. If you post every day for a month, you will learn what hits. You have to be consistent. You have to be consistent.

So basically you're giving me advice that I give to podcasters. but with TikTok is the exact same thing. It's be consistent. Yeah. And I mean, I've followed you for a long time. And I was going to say, actually, it's a very Lauren-esque advice because it's like, it's not the easiest. It's not. And people are like, oh, my God, a month.

And it's like, that's kind of what you have to do. Not only because you'll learn a ton about what hits, like for the people, but also one will take. And it will just get you going. You just have to be consistent. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do your advice. I'm going to post every single day. You guys have to.

hold me to it. Everyone else should do it too. I think that's incredible advice. Yeah. What do you think it is? I'm sure you could ask this all the time, but I can't not ask you this about you that people are very drawn to. I'll say what I think after you say. Your piece. Thank you. Firstly, I think maybe they feel like I'm this girl and I live in L.A. and I have access. And by the way, I'm from London. I grew up in London, England. I went to Stanford. I, lived in San Francisco for four years. I lived in New York for two years. Wait, wait, wait.

You went to Stanford? I went to Stanford undergrad. The college. The college. Stop. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That is so fucking hard to get into.

Thank you. Thank you. So I went for creative writing. Yeah. Michael went to Stanford too. Stanford of the Desert, or the University of Arizona. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. So like, I have all this life experience and now I live in L.A. And I have access and proximity to certain things, but I still feel like a normal friend. Like I'm gonna tell the truth. I'm going to be like, guys, I was at this party and like the food was amazing and no one

was dancing or like whatever. Or that's kind of one thing. I am very honest. I think that that helps as well. I think maybe because I feel, I think that you can tell, I think people, especially through the pandemic, can tell when people are making content like to get famous or they're making content because they love it or they're doing stuff because they genuinely love it. And I genuinely have never felt such purpose in my life. I tell my followers that all the time. Like, I had great jobs. I had great friends. I had a good life before, but I, I've never felt such purpose as when I'm telling, like,

my girls a dating rule or, like, a dating hack. Or, like, when I'm giving an amazing recommendation. Like, I have never felt it. It feels like woo-woo spiritual. Like, this is what I was put on earth to do. And I'm sure that that comes through in a way. No, what it is is, like, you have, like, you know, you could tell these people that jump into, let's call it, like, the influence or criticist.

And you can tell they're doing it because they want to be an influencer as a business, right? They're trying to get famous. They're trying to get clubs. we're trying to make money, right? And it's, it's, people can sense that inauthentic nature, right? They're like, you could see when someone's just doing it just to try to be like what other creators are. So I think with, you asked me earlier, when we were talking about like how we have the stamina to do so many of these things. It doesn't feel like work. Like, I like doing this. I would sit here if the mics weren't on and ask you all these questions and do all. I think if you're

doing it for the reasons, you're scripting it out, and you're like, I'm going to make money and I'm going to become famous. It's not going to work long term. I think that's why they resonate with you. One, you're authentic, two, you tell the truth. And three, there's, there's this people can sense that you're not doing it to monetize off of them. You're doing it, you would do it regardless of the stuff that's happening for your career. You know what's been saving my ass? What, what, what, what? Please tell me. Well, I can tell you what's been saving my ass. What? No days wasted. DHS detox. I use this stuff religiously now. Here's what I do. Okay, no days wasted. Basically, DHM detox is the vitamin for when you drink. I cannot drink without this. This is a herbal supplement

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I mean, my manager is going to kill me for saying this. But I have to say that in my 20s, like I always worked in creative. industries and all my peers from Stanford worked in like incredible jobs and they were making a lot of money like right out of college and I was always like shit like am I this going to work out for me like I don't know and through this process like now for the first year I just got asked this in and asked me anything they were like when did you feel financially stable and I said 2021 is the first year of my life that I felt like wow I'm okay and I actually feel now that money is less important to me like because I'm so obsessed with what I'm doing and like getting a note from a girl or like when someone will come up to me

be like, you gave me the confidence to, like, leave a shitty relationship. That makes me high. Like, that is, I'm like, this is what it's all about. Of course, money is still important to me. I love money. But, like, it's just less, like, a priority for me than I thought it was. And that's a really interesting learning from this past year. I feel the same way. And let me tell you something. I've had a lot of conversations with influencers. And I can tell you 95% of them. The first question is how do I monetize? Yeah. And it's the wrong fucking question. that is not the right question.

It's okay to want to make a living. This is obviously a venture here that we monetize off of and it's a business. But I think if that's the first question and that's the main priority, then you're going to struggle, right? Also, how do these people not, this is another thing that drives me mad is how do people not understand that the audience is so intelligent? They see things that I don't see. Completely. They feel the energy. Completely.

They do. They're so smart. I mean, I think especially through like quarantine and everything, people are are so wise to what they, the content they consume and like the intent and what's going on. And they care less about like the pandemic came in a really interesting time because I think it also came at a time where the last 10 years say the era of influencers and bloggers is like people demanded and expected perfection from them. We saw that on the Instagram feed. We saw that on like photoshopping or not photoshopping, like that whole era. And I think right when the pandemic hit, people were starting to want something different. And then the quarantine just lit the match. And people were like, I actually don't care if you have cellulite. Like, I actually don't care to see the picture of like

this perfect thing. Like now I just, I want, I see through it and I want reality in a new, in a new way. Well, you know, you touch on something earlier saying you don't care. And I think like, tell me if I'm wrong about this. Like, I actually feel the same way. I don't like, Lauren and I are going to do the show we want to do and have the conversations we want to have and ask the questions we want to ask regardless of what's popular in culture or politically correct. You know what I mean? And I think that's also probably a reason you resonate with people is like people know you're going to do you. And you see all these people, especially this last year where like the wind starts to blow one way and like, oh shit, I got to change my whole brand, my whole content.

I got to post this thing that everyone else is posting. And like people can see through that horseshit. It's so inauthentic. It's such bullshit. I think that that is it's such a vulnerable. ability for creators when it's like you're not really being yourself. When you say you don't care, that's actually a superpower because it brings more people to you. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. People want to know. This is a question that was written in. I did not write this about myself. If you were going to make me into a rich mom, what does that look like? I think you are rich San Diego mom. Really? Well, I don't know. You're still getting your feet on the ground and awesome. You want to be rich Austin?

I think I want to be rich Austin. You can't be rich Austin mom learned you been there. I don't know what like what does rich mom mean? I've seen your rich mom stuff, but like what does that mean? So I like another thing about me is I've always been creating content and like doing this for my private Instagram but I just now more people see it. So like I don't know. My brain is really weird and I've just always been obsessed with rich mom culture because they're they're amazing. They get what they want.

They are superhuman. They look amazing doing it. Like they're always know the best stuff. and I would do these little characters on my Instagram. Like I would take a picture of my outfit when I was like working in a corporate job and I'd be like rich mom San Francisco like blah blah blah. And just like create these characters because when I wake up in the morning I free write and usually what comes out is like a little character. When I went into my interesting brain. And then I just I when I had started TikTok for like I was probably six months into it.

I was like everything that I like that I've made for TikTok people have liked too. So maybe people would be interested in my rich mom starter packs. And then I just started doing them. And so what I do is I research a city. And sometimes I know them like because I lived in Tribeca for two years. I could do it without help. The Aspen one was spot on. The Aspen one was one of my favorites.

And then I researched them and then I do like a little starter pack. And it's just a little fun character thing that I do. And rich mom culture is incredible. We can learn a lot from them. Sometimes I do rich mom rating of things. Like this water, for example, has a very high rich mom rating because it's glass bottle. You gave me two options without even asking. That's incredibly rich mom vibes.

So yeah, it's just a weird, like, set of characters that live in my head. Why can't we do rich daddy? I think those other podcast networks offer like Desani or something. Exactly. I don't, I can't drink. I would rather, I would rather drink toilet water than you drink Tasani. I'm sorry. I was just like, I'm not a snob, but that's just one of my things.

It's a sonny. I don't even know how to pronounce it. I just, I can't. I can't do it. It really freaks me out. Okay. So a lot of people want to know about your boyfriend situation. Mm.

I feel like you've been so ex-boyfriend. You've been so open about that process. And to me, if I was struggling with a boyfriend, I feel like you're one of the first people I would watch their Instagram story. It sucked. I'm not going to lie. It was a really brutal thing because I share everything with my followers.

And it feels very natural for me to share with them, honestly, guys. Like, I don't. People are like, oh, do you feel weird? And I'm like, no, I don't. I feel like they're my friends. And I tell them, obviously, I keep a layer of privacy up. I'm not telling certain. certain names and stuff, but I was very vocal about how blissfully happy I was. And I got the rug

totally ripped out from under me, really unexpectedly. And I, to be to be blunt, totally heartbroken. How long are we together? A really short time, but it was like very intense. And it was like, like we said, I love you really quickly. Like I was head over heels, like so happy. And my followers were all so happy for me and it was just like this really fun time. And then like my world shattered to be, to be frank. And I thought to myself like I have taken them on this journey with me. I have to tell them what happened. And then I thought like I give so much advice to younger girls. Like I have so many eyes on me of younger girls. And now I'm put in this position where I have this unique opportunity to practice what I preach. To be strong, to work on myself, to deal with things in a,

a classy and respectful way and to be brave. And this sounds so cheesy, but I was like, if this is the silver lining that I can like show these girls what I've been talking about, because I get so many DMs like I'm heartbroken or this or that happened, then I'm okay with that. So I've been doing the best that I can. So were you just bringing them on the whole entire journey of everything of how you felt after? Did you need time for yourself? I made a TikTok the day that I found out. And I, because, well, I recorded it. And then I was like, I'm not really sure

if I should post this or not. But it was only about my feelings. It was only about how I felt. And it was so raw. And I've cried on TikTok before. It wouldn't be the first time. And I was like, this is like, this can help people. And it's also the blunt truth of how I'm feeling,

which is completely heartbroken. So I'm going to go for it. You're going to find someone, though, so amazing. You're like so multifaceted. I might have someone for you. You are going to find someone who's the right fit. And I think I don't know a lot about dating because obviously I've been in this relationship for fucking 500 years. But I do know one thing.

You're happy about that. I'm happy about that. You do not settle. Do not. And you never want to be with someone. This is my hot tip. That is you want the person to be more in love with you than you are with them. Yeah.

Always. You want them to be the pursuer. And this is my tip. people out there. She's more in love with me than... No. You want to... If you're in a male-female relationship, my belief is that if a guy wants to text you, he has a phone. I'll text you 100%. 100%. And like the thing about life as well as dating is sometimes you do get the rug ripped out from under you. But your character is how you

pick yourself up. Your character is your resilience in the face of adversity. You're Your character is, we used to have this phrase, I don't know if anyone knows it, like, someone moved your cheese. It's just a phrase. And it's like, someone moved your cheese. So what are you going to do now? You're going to lay down and die? No. You have to have a good cry.

Work out a lot. Go to a Justin Bieber concert in Vegas. And take some journey juice. Yeah. And know that, like, you're going to look back and think this all happened for a reason. I believe that in my bones. I really do. And I also tell girls, like, if you're going through something difficult or whatever, imagine yourself in a year.

Imagine you're sitting at lunch telling a new friend about what you're going through. How do you want to say to your friend that you dealt with it? Do you want to be like, yeah, like, then I did this random, you know, egg to his car, like, spent three weeks in bed, blah, blah, blah. No, like, think about how you want to tell your new friend, like how you dealt with the experience and then do it. and then that gives you a little bit of purpose and you get back up and yeah, that's my only tip for going through a really bad breakup. I think that's great advice.

And honestly, I'm going to say, because I can't help it, I feel that there's a heartbreak book in your future. This might not be the manliest thing to say. I've always loved beer. Well, maybe that's manly to say. I've always loved beer,

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Michelada. You will not be sorry. Celebrate responsibly, Coors Brewing Company, Albany, Georgia. Thank you. I feel the strong urge to write a few books. And I just, I love getting advice and I love giving advice. So I really hope that I get to do that. I bet you will. That's the hard thing, though, is like taking the advice you would give to someone else. Totally. Yeah, it's so hard. We all get on our high horse and we're like, hey, this is what you need to do. But when it comes to ourselves, you can't do it.

Yeah. No, yeah. And there was some, like, literally heartbreaking moments where I was, like, sobbing. And my manager was like, what would you tell your girls? And then that obviously made me cry more. But, like, I feel a strong purpose to practice what I preach and to be, to set a good example, even when I'm hurting. You want someone who's obsessed with you. everything you do. You want someone who's so into you that they're rolling the red carpet out for you.

Yes. You do. Yeah, of course. I agree. You have to know your worth. You have to know, you have to know, you have to know exactly what you want. And I do. And that's also like a North Star for me as I know what I want and I know what I deserve. Yeah, you're a 10. You need a 10. I grew up with two younger sisters. And I would like some people, especially if you're going through a breakup or you're in a relationship that's not working out. I always told him like if that guy is really interested and if he's the one like he is going to chase you. 100%. Like it's not, It's not going to be the other way around. And some people, they hate to hear that. It's like, oh, I can change him or he'll be different.

Like, every guy I know, I can say this from the male perspective, and myself included, like when they want something, they aggressively go after it. Completely. And it can't be indifferent. Completely. And action speak louder than words. Like, I really believe that. Michael was like a tick.

I know your guy's story. And then there was just kept growing in blood and blood and blood and then it just popped and I just had to embrace the tick. They're like, all right. They're like described as a tick. It's not a loving way, a very cute tick. Okay, you have so many mantras. So many. Oh, my God.

What's the mantra that you're giving yourself during this breakup? Xanax tequila repeat. No, I think what mantras, I do think that like when one door closes, another one opens, and when the universe takes something away from you, it's because they're going to give you something better. Like something better is coming. Also, thoughts become things. So, like, that's just for always.

but, you know, if you're thinking positively, that spreads positive energy. You know, my number one mantra that I always say to people is comparison is the thief of joy. And what people don't realize is that can all, that doesn't just mean, oh, don't compare yourself to your, you know, the Instagram models or whatever. It can also mean don't compare yourself to a version of yourself that doesn't exist. So let me explain. Don't compare yourself to when you were in the relationship. Like, I was way happier then or whatever. and don't compare yourself to a future tripping that never happened.

Oh, we could have been this. We could have been that. That would have been so great. Stay in the present. What are you doing today? What are you grateful for today? And that really grounds me. I want to know selfishly what your boundaries are with social media.

So like, are you watching 500 Instagram stories a day? Do you have a cutoff? Do you have a point? Like, do you have your boundaries yet? Because I know it took me years to develop the boundaries I have. It's definitely a work in. progress. I'm not there yet. And there are definitely moments where I'm like, this is out of control. Just like the level of engagement that I have with the internet is it's not like, oh, what's your screen time? I'm like,

I don't have screen time. Like I live in the internet. Like I wake up every morning. I wipe the drill off my face and I enter the internet. And it's a lot right now. But I'm also obsessed with my job right now. And I'm a year into what is going to be a lifelong career. So it's okay that I'm going hard right now. The boundaries are, yeah, I don't, I'm still working it out. I have a good morning routine, but I do check my phone the first thing. You strike me as someone that has a lot of self-awareness. Like, that's a very self-aware thing to say that because one of my questions was like, this is new for you, right?

Yeah. And Lauren and I were like, I guess we're like old dogs here now. We've seen different renditions of this with different people, but it's new for you. And you're obviously having a massive moment. Like that's obviously changing your life and adding different dynamics. And we were even just talking about like posting in real time and all the things. But you're very self-aware. Not a lot of people would say like, hey, this,

this is going to be my career. I'm just going to live in it for a while and then eventually make a plan. Like, where do you think that self-awareness comes from? I, I've always been a really self-aware person just because I think I'm a very in my head person and that's just one of the happy side effects. But it's a superpower though, because most people are not self-aware. I really try to be self-aware. But it's also like, I always say this with my content. I always am like, I'm happy to slip on the banana peel and then tell people about it because then it's your laugh. That's something Nora Ephron always used to say. And I think that part of it is like not a defense mechanism, but like if I say it first, then no one else can.

I'm like, yeah, I'm the oldest girl on TikTok or like, yeah, I look like shit today. And then it's like out there and it's done. And it's kind of a defense mechanism. So I think that's also wrapped up in the whole self-aware thing. But I think it is a superpower. I try to stay super self-aware, especially through this past year, which is insane. And I'm so grateful. I'm insane shit is happening to me.

And I'm really trying to like hold onto the ground while it's all. happening because that's very important to me. Is there anything that's happened that you thought you would like, that you're like, I don't like this part of it? Well, the trolls are not great. I'm not going to lie to you. That's going to get worse, though. I'm going to beat your trolls up.

You're so sweet and nice. Thank you. Anyone that's trolling you, come deal with me and my DMs. And it's fine. Just to set the table, that is going to exponentially get worse. Oh my God. It's just like. You'll never get better.

Yeah. That's the only thing where I'm like, geez, Louise. Like take a day off. It's fine usually, but once in a while you're having a bad day anyway and you're just super sensitive. Like obviously for the past three weeks, I've been a bit down in the dumps. And I'm like really putting on a brave face for the followers, like working like all day every day. And then I get me in comment. And I'm just like, like not today, Satan. Like just not today. But you can't respond and you click on their profile and it's like a troll in their mom's basement. You're like, okay. Like I get it. Like I've done the whole thing. Like I have a system. I worked it out. With my therapist, we work really hard at it. It doesn't usually affect me. But like, yeah, that's not great. And that's the only negative thing. Yeah, you have to like kind of just apply empathy to those people.

And like in the beginning of this, let's say the beginning of this show, I used to look at the charts. And I mostly looked to see what people were saying and like see the comments and the reviews and like, do they like, do they like looking for like critical feedback. And then I was like, okay, but I'll disregard the trolls. And over time, like as anyone builds a platform. What did your wife tell you? No, sure. About that. But here's the reason.

What just say what your wife told you. We said not to look at it. But, but here's the. thing. I used to try to look at it because I wanted to be aware. Like if there was somebody giving actually good feedback. Totally. The problem is though as things grow and you build a platform in the public eye and as you're going to, as you are experiencing, they're going to continue experiencing. Like you start to get people that weren't there for the original party. Right. Like they weren't there for the Tinks party. They just somehow somebody sees something. You've

gone viral. They don't really know who you are. They do now, but they're like, they don't know the story. And they want to jump in and they're going to see something that rubs them the wrong way. and they're going to go and they're going to share their friends. And so it like it turns into this whole other thing. And at some point you're like, I can't pay attention. We're going to block it out because it starts to affect who you are authentically as a person. And then you start to like change your behaviors based on what some rando in a basement or in an attic is saying. You just can't do that.

100%. Yeah. You just said so many interesting things. I think firstly your wife is right. You can't look. And that's like a big part of it. And I was actually talking to my followers yesterday about ego and I'm like, I used to do the same thing. I was like, well, I'm looking in the comments in case like they didn't have a question or something.

and I'm like, no, it's my ego. Like, I'm going to get validated, but then I'm also, like, going to kind of weirdly look for that cut, too. And it's like, you can't, you can't, you just can't go there. And then the second thing I was going to say is, oh, yeah, the thing about now, like, if people drop in and they don't know my story, they're like, this, like, influencer in L.A. All she does is sit around and get free stuff. And, like, I'm still working on that. That still is a trigger because, like, I don't know if it's because I'm a Virgo or what, but I'm like, if you, if you don't find me funny, that's fine. Like, you can be the ripest, juiciest peaches.

There's always going to be someone who doesn't like peaches. But if you don't like, if you misunderstand me, like, that's incredibly frustrating and triggering to me. And so I just, you just have to disconnect and be like, they're either going to get it or they're not. And like, I know who I am. I know who I create for. And I have my amazing followers.

And that's all there is to it. But that's good that you have that conviction because so many people they get, they, they, like, they blow wherever the wind goes, right? And like, all of a sudden you see these people are like, that is a confused creator. Like, they don't know what they're doing. They're just trying to appease the mouse or the comment section, right? Yeah. I think the most powerful kind of creator is the ones that make the creation look effortless. Yeah. So you're bound to get more trolls saying you sit around and get free shit when it looks effortless. But the effortlessness it takes to create that.

You're completely right. That's what people don't understand. The more effortless content looks, the harder it is to create. You're completely right. And that's what I think for me, like when you said the word triggered, like, that's when I turn that trigger off for me. It's like, I'm so happy that you think that I sit around and eat bonbons all day. Yeah. Five minutes of my 24-hour day. Wow, that's such a good reset. It's like five minutes you see of my day.

You don't see me at the computer at 2 a.m. or you waking up at 5.30 to do what you have to do. like I'm actually fine with people who think that I sit around and get free shit all day. Wow. I knew I was going to learn stuff today, but I think that is going to be my main takeaway. That is such a good reframe. Let people think that. Let people think that. And then like you're so giving to your community too.

Like you do giveaways for a bunch. You're not keeping all the free shit you get. Like you give it away and you, I mean, that's all you can do. But you have to look at it also in a different way. From the platform that you've built now, the reason these companies would send you something is because these are companies that employ all sorts of people and bring in and build revenue and have a customer base. And like, you are an outlet for them to continue to be successful in business. Yeah. Right. Like there's the reason not everybody gets free shit is because not everybody's

an outlet, right? Totally. And like you have to look at it that way as well. It's a business. That this is the business you've built. Who has read my book? Get the fuck out of the sun. I hope a lot of you. And I'm sure you notice that there was a huge section dedicated to humidifiers. A lot of people don't know this, but humidifiers are insane for plumping your skin. Okay. I'm telling you, your skin will be dewy, plump. A humidifier is the way to go. But the problem is, is they're so fucking ugly.

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Completely. And I sometimes do try and explain, sometimes there's genuine. questions from the followers about like what what does your business look like and i try and remind them that they're not actually sending me free stuff because they think i'm a nice girl and they want to be like my pal they're sending it because if i because it's not like santa's list no it's not like santa's list it's like if i my followers i've never lied to them and i don't push products that i don't believe in so they want me to try their product in the hope that i love it and the hope that i and after a month of using it, say, I would take a bullet for this water. And that's part of the whole economy.

Again, it's not just because they think I'm like, cool, you know? Be careful saying about this water. This fucking company won't pay me a goddamn time. And I've had this water in these studios from here. Let me tell you Mountain Valley. I have you on every table with every, how many shows, 80-something shows you got here? Per price. They don't know.

No discount? Mountain Valley, figured out. Honest, honest, honest, answer. Fine, I still get it. I'm sure you're going to give me an honest answer. friends and family. Yeah. There's got to be some friends that this has been too much for.

Yeah. And the ones that I've found in my life that are really stable are ones that I've had since I was 12 years old. 100%. So how have you dealt with skyrocketing so much with friends and family? Because family can be tough too. Yeah. It's friend breakups are tough. Yeah.

And it's really painful to lose friends at a time when when I feel so purpose driven and so fulfilled and so happy. And like I finally found my passion. To have friends drop off because of that is like really heartbreaking. You have to think about why it is. And it can be a combination of things. It can be their own insecurities feeling like, oh, I'm not where I want to be in my life or like that seems like a fun time. and I wish I was doing it or whatever. Yeah, it's painful.

It is, you kind of have to mourn it. And like, I really, I really take my friendship so seriously because I left England when I was 19 and I, my family literally lived so far away. My friends are like my family. I know a lot of people say that, but I was literally in a foreign country. And so super painful. But yeah, you're completely right. The ones who have been there for me super are longtime friends.

And they all say, this is what you were meant to be doing. I can't believe that it took you this long to do it because this is just your destiny and like I'm so proud of you. And I was just in New York catching up with old Stanford friends. And they were like, you literally were doing this since Stanford. You were been the same. You're just doing it on a bigger scale now. Yeah. It's painful.

Friend breakup suck. It does suck. But it also eliminates the toxicity that was toxic and not right. Completely. And you can't take it personally. Like they'll try and find reasons to make it like not about that. And you're like, I know what this is about. Like, just call a spade a spade.

Like, I know what's happening here. And let's not also just going back to what you said earlier, do the condescending TikTok comments. Because that's not supportive. No, it's not. And yeah, it's just, I mean, people can. And yeah, I've heard people saying nasty things about me around town. Like, oh, she's not the girl. I thought she wasn't.

Yeah, no shit. I was an unemployed writer a year ago. And now I'm a TikTok personality. So, yeah, I've changed a bit. But I'm the same person and I'm the same friend. But you're allowed to change. Yeah. I don't want to hang out with someone that stays.

the fucking stames stagnant every single day. What's that saying people are happy for you until you surpass them or something like that? Something crazy like that. You know, it's interesting. Like people are happy and like you're beneath them or below them and like trying to catch up. And as soon as you like pass somebody that, that sometimes switches. But it goes back to what you said. It's like why even put yourself below or beneath anyone to begin with?

Like I try not, I just try to be doing my own thing over here. Yeah, but not everybody does that, right? And it's just crazy because like I really do live by comparison as the thief of joy. And all throughout my 20s, like, I was so lost. And I was like, all my peers were in these great relationships and, like, having these skyrocketing careers. And I was so happy for them. And that's one thing that I always tell my followers is like, because they're like, oh,

I feel like I'm the only one not married or I'm this and that. I'm like, first things first, you have to learn and teach yourself and be strict with yourself and learn it fast to feel your friends happiness. like it's when they win, it's a feather in your cap. Feel their wins in your bones. When they get married, feel deep joy for them. Feel like it's happening to you. Be so happy for them, like that you feel joyful as well.

And I do. And I think that that's been a huge secret to my general optimism and success and happiness is because I, if something good happens to my friend, I'm like, fuck yeah. Like that's a win for the team. That's amazing. And if you can't do that, then you have shit that you need to work. out internally. I 100% agree with you. Michael says the best thing. You have to say it because you say it more

eloquently than I do about how if you want to trade lives with someone. No, I don't say that. I heard it from somebody and I thought it was really profound. It might have been Naval Ravicon. I know he says a lot of really smart things. But he was basically, and it's not him, apologies, whoever it was. But he basically said like if you envy someone's life or you're comparing yourself and wishing that like that was your life. Like you have to be willing to trade every single thing about your life and their life. Like, you want to be, like say, I want to switch spot. Let's say I want to switch spots with you. I have to be able to trade my kid. I have to be able to trade like all the things. It's not like, it's not like, it's not like I can pick pieces of your life that I like or you can pick piece of

my life that you like. You have to be willing to completely switch spots. And I think like when I heard that, I'm like, okay, I don't compare myself to anyone now because I'm like, I love my life. I love my kid. Like there's parts that I'm like, okay, that I don't like that part. I'm going to improve that or that's tough. But like, I'm not willing to change everything. Completely. And I think that you have to look at it that way because we get in this thing where we think we can cherry pick, right? You can't.

Yeah. I think often people think with like content creators and influences are like, I want free stuff. And I'm like, that is 1% of it. Like that is. And I'm like, honestly, come to my fucking house and take it because that is 0.5% of the job. I'll give you an example. Like when Lauren and I were living in San Diego, because we brought San Diego up and we were starting to your media and we were doing this show. We were both run, have other jobs running other companies.

And I think you can look at something like this. And I'm like, oh, it's so it's all easy. But in the beginning, we were driving at 10 o'clock at night here three times a week from San Diego back and forth in traffic, doing the show, running the companies, doing our other jobs, getting paid nothing. I took no salary from this business for two years, right? Yeah. And I think people look at it now and they're like, oh, but I'm like, would you be willing to like have all those miserable nights and those miserable fights with your wife because you're let you're deprived of energy? and then you're doing the show. Yeah.

And so I just think that people, like, we're so used to in condition to looking at the end probably. I can look at your videos. I'm like, man, that looks easy. But they don't see all the backwork that goes in it and all the struggle and all the conversations with managers and all this and all that. Nothing's easy. Nothing that looks easy is my point. Completely. Yeah, it circles back to what you were saying before.

It's like people see five minutes or they see the end result and they don't see it. Like, I'm 30. Like, I did this for a year. Like you didn't see when I was like living at home when I was in grad school working like 10 jobs. It was far less glamorous. And like, it's not to say like, I, you know, I struggled. That's not the energy at all, but you're right. People do only see right now and they don't see everything in the lead up.

And that's- We used to read these biographies like, like the way you would see someone that was successful. You'd like read a biography or something about their whole journey. So you get the whole picture of like all the struggle. But I think now, especially with social media, you see the end product instantly. Yeah. And it's conditioned people to think like, oh, that's easy. That's viral.

I can do that. And you don't realize all the work and all the thought and all the stuff. Jen Atkins' book, I absolutely, no pun intended, blew me away. It's called Blowing My Way to the Top. And she talks a lot about that. Her book is unbelievable. I've never met her, but she has an incredible work ethic. And her book talks a lot about like the seeming, like, instant success and how people just thought, like, oh, she's like, does the Kardashians hair.

And that's why she's famous. She, she, like, worked like an animal for years in L.A. and just built and built and built. And so it's a phenomenal book for anybody who's thinking about doing any sort of job, actually, because it's really just about work ethic and it's about putting in the time. Let's put it out to the ether. What are you looking for in a mate? It's so, so granular. Like his dick size.

I'm just kidding. Small media and large. Super size? No. No, no. I like a guy who first and foremost doesn't take himself too seriously. Can't have any, can't have any of that. No, no, no. Self-aware, really fun.

You know, I think you learned something from every relationship and this last relationship in, he was really fun. And I actually really like that. Like, I think a lot of times people say to me, oh, you need to be with someone who's more chill because you're so like whatever out there. And I actually really enjoyed being with someone who was so fun. What's your definition of fun, though? Like likes to go out.

likes to have a good time, super social, has a lot of energy. I think so much of finding a partner is like finding someone who wants to spend time the same way that you do, because that's like the only limited resource we have, right? So it's like, how do they want to spend their Sunday? Like if you guys have three hours together, like, do you want to spend it the same way? Do you have the same goals? You have to be super aligned on your vision for your life. And so I'm looking for that. And funny, has to be funny. I'm literally never taking anything seriously. And so I, I, I can't be with someone who's serious. That being said, crazy ambitious.

Like, to the point where when they say their goals, people are like, that's a little bit unhinged, like someone who is ready to just attack this life. Ambitious, like, in the pursuit or like, do they already, like, they have to be successful? Both. Fucking everything. Check every box. Yeah. Just be like, have a lot of plans for yourself.

That's attractive is when someone's like, this is what I want to build. And then someone who can, someone who really respects my relationship. with my followers. It's a new relationship in my life, but it is going to be one of the most important. And someone who honors that and says, like, I know how much you love them and I know how much you care about them and how this is going to be. You want to grow up with them. And my partner has to be not only okay with that, but proud of it. I think after talking to you too, I'm just going to add one thing to the list because I have to, that you need someone who's quietly confident. And what I mean by that is they're okay with you having the limelight. And that's going to be really hard to find.

That's tough to find. Yeah. True confidence is actually in LA, especially, there's a lot of guys who are confident. And I'm like, bro, having a GWagon doesn't mean you're confident. Like true confidence is, it's in here. It's deep in your belly. And you know who you are. Yeah, like they're so they're so comfortable and okay with what you do and they're willing to go back behind the scenes a little bit to let you be. I am going to generalize LA a little bit. I am a little bit worried in this city to find a guy like that, right? Yeah. It's not all the other stuff, the ambitious, all that. I think you find that. I think the harder thing here is finding somebody secure enough to be okay with the level of confidence or the level of success that you reached and how confident you are. Like a lot of guys get threatened by that, especially in cities like this, right? Like, totally.

It's all about like who's who, who's accepted. I'm not, I'm not going to say for everybody, but a lot. Yeah. I can say that I lived here long enough. It's a bubble. I mean, it's a, it's an own ecosystem. And I try to leave L.A. every six weeks, even if it's just for the weekend or whatever, just to remember that it's not real life. I love L.A.

I want to raise my kids here, but it's not real life. You have to come out to Texas sometime. Yeah. Introduces some people. I think I would. Yeah. No, I have a person already that we already been talking about. Okay.

So you're very. much of a resource. People go to you for product recommendations. What are three products that you're obsessed with right now that everyone needs to get? Your ice roller. Oh, thank you. That's nice. Because I actually, we haven't talked about depuffing. And I, like, I think that's how I initially found you is because you were talking about depuffing the face on the internet, like years ago. And I- Why is no one talking about depuffing the face? I woke up like sloth from the guineas today. It's so gnarly. I just, I look at a French fry. And I, I, I have. have fat face the next day. Like I, the puffing is just, I seriously live and die by it. It's just,

I'm very sensitive to sodium. I'm very sensitive to food, but I'm not going to give them up. And I'm, and I love to drink as well. It makes me puffy. And it just drives me nuts when I wake up and I'm just look so not myself. So your ice roller is amazing. I'll tell you three things that I love about it. The roller itself is very smooth and gets very cold, but doesn't burn my skin. It lays heavy in the hand, which is really nice when you're like laying in bed and it just, it's not like a flimsy bit of plastic. And the thumb thing is great because you can just hold it. It's really fantastic. And I've used a lot of ice rollers. I've used every ice pack thing on Amazon. I've tried every trick and it's phenomenal. So everybody needs to get it because it's really

great. I did it this morning. I don't know if you can tell. But I also ate pro yo last night. So I'm, you know, struggling a little bit. Well, that was an ad. Thanks for that ad. No, it's great. It's great. I mean, I have so many products that I talk about. Do you mean like new ones that I've? Could be anything from a brow gel to a butthole cleaner to anything, sunglasses, earrings, anything.

God, I love, I just have so many products. I mean, the simple modern cup is kind of my thing. What's that? It's amazing. It's a cup and it insulates your water. And I have, I, it was one of my, it was one of my first viral videos. Like, it was crazy. Like, I remember I made it like almost as a joke.

And I was like, this cup will change your life. It's really incredible. I stupidly don't have one on me, but, and I'm not paid by them. It's not endorsed. And, and it went, it exploded. And I, and I have a cult of these girls who have the, or people actually who have the cup. And I, like, people will wave to me across the street. I get probably 50 pictures of day of people of this simple mom.

Modern Cup, I will send you guys them. Please don't order it. I'm going to send them to you. Yeah. Like if you search Tinks Cup on Google, it will come up. And again, never been paid a dollar by them. And like, there was all these tweets by all these analysts on like content creation, influence, or whatever. And they were like, this influencer has three million views on this video and she's not being paid.

And I also don't do affiliate links, which is just like a weird thing. And people are like, okay, me, you're not going to pay it. And I'm like, because I love a good product recommendation. and I need people to have this cup. It keeps me incredibly hydrated. I have one of my car. I have one of my house. I have one in my bedroom.

Like, I'm obsessed with them. It's the best cup. Okay, I'm going to ask some details about this cup. I knew you would. What's the difference between that and the hydro flask? This is heavy. It's heavy. And also the weight, kind of like,

I'm kind of obsessed with things that feel a little bit weightier, but not bulky, which is kind of, which is why like your ice roller because it feels expensively heavy, but not heavy, heavy. Like a little. Not a limp dick, but like erect. Like erect. And this cup is...

Wait, what's going on with your mind today? You got too much of that sex conversation. It's the perfect shape. It keeps your water exactly the same temperature for 24 hours. The straw is just... It feels really nice to sip through a straw. I like a straw because I always have lip gloss on. It's easy to clean.

You can get new straws. I really can't explain it. It just makes drinking water extremely fun. And I have an army of hydrated bitches out there now. So that is like tried and true. I love them. I'm not paid. I've never had a scent from them.

I think it's an amazing product that everybody needs. Okay, so you need to do a collab with them, though, and we need to take the black lid off, and I need to do like a pastel lilac. Yeah. Because I love it, but the black is throwing me off a little bit. Yeah, you can get different lids. Oh, you can custom the shit out of them.

Oh, you can get different lids. Oh, yeah, yeah. They have everything. It's the simple, modern, classic, insulated tumbler on Amazon. 28 ounce. With straw and flip lid, stainless. They're so sweet. They send me free cups and stuff, but they, like, I love them. I'm obsessed with them. The market over there's asleep at the switch. And then, um, what else am I loving? I,

I will say I've been using Dr. Laura Devkins, her eyelash serum for about four to five months, and I've seen a mark difference in my eyelashes. It's great. Your skin's super glowy too. What are you using on your skin care? I mean, we have to do a whole other, like this is a different conversation. I love skin care more than anything. We share a really good friend, Sonia Dekar. She's the best. She's amazing. She's like half-therical.

She's like half-therical. She's been on the show. She's a character. She's a character. She's incredible. Her whole brand is incredible. Great, great family. So sweet.

Her blue butterfly. It's unbelievable. Yeah, the blue butterfly. Unbelievable. She's great. I mean, I love Botox. I'm very open about that. I fucking love it.

I don't. I get it as much as possible. see Dr. Laura Devkin in New York City, every time I go to New York, I go to her office. And she's like, you were here a month ago. I'm like, just see. Dr. Laura's good, though, because she's natural. She's not heavy. Yeah. Well, I make her heavy. I'm like, put more in my face. I'm like, if I can move my eyebrows, we're not doing it right. And I'm, I'm okay with that. I, like, I don't want to lie. I don't care. I think that's amazing. I just had Ariel Lori on the show the other day. And she's the same way.

She's so open about all the plastic surgery that she's had done. And she's talked about her brow lift, her lip lift, fat transfer. And it's so refreshing. And I called her out on it because there's so many celebrities that are saying that they use a product to get the result that they have. It's like, splash a little water on the face in the morning. My thing is like, okay, so you don't want to tell everyone that you got something done. So then just say, listen, I've had a lot of work and treatments. But I don't want to talk about it because I don't want to influence people to do something.

Completely. And especially now I'm like, I think one of the beauty. of coming into this a little bit later in my life. Like, I am more comfortable with myself now. I can't say that I would have been as honest or as like, like, I don't care if I was 25 when I still had loads of insecurities. Not to say that I don't have insecurities now. But now I just kind of see things way more clearly where I'm like, I actually think that

my body is like the least interesting thing about me. So I don't really care that much, which is why I'm like, A, I don't care. And B, if I do something, I'll tell people because I'm like, it just doesn't matter to me. And yeah, I'm super open about it. I love Botox. And I did like skincare. I like expensive skincare. I actually just said that on my TikTok Live.

I was like, I think I'm going to stop apologizing for liking expensive skincare because I'm 30 and I can spend my money how I want. And I choose to spend a lot of that money on skincare. I did my entire skincare routine for New York magazines The Cut. And all the comments were like, this is expensive. And I'm like, well, would you have preferred that I lie and say, yeah, it's splashed a little C to fill on there and drink a lot of water?

And set up pills paying you? Yeah. Yeah, like, behind the scenes. I'm like, no, no skincare. None of the, Dr. Lara DeFkin does not pay me. Sonia Dakar doesn't pay me. I think their products are phenomenal. I use them.

And that's how my skin looks this way. I think that the energy for 2021 and moving forward is stop apologizing. Yeah. Like, it's not stop apologizing. It's stop worrying that everybody likes you. I don't want everyone to like me. Like, I've gone through my whole life knowing goddamn well that half of the people I encounter probably don't like me when they first meet me.

Like, it's fine. Like, you can't win everybody over. got like eight good friends that I'm like that I love and would die for. I got my wife. I got my kid. I love the audience we speak to. Like I hope we're giving them value. But I'm not worried about somebody like I'm not going to change everything about my life to appease some stranger that's never going to care about me anyway. Totally. Like I love the Kardashians. I always have. I love them too. I love them and like people have a big problem with that on TikTok. And finally I was like like when I got my first Kardashian like PR box, I got Kim.

Kim's fragrance, the chocolate box where you smash and you get the perfume. And I was so, like, excited. And I made this video and everyone was like so dumb. You're so excited. Like, can't believe you like them all this stuff. And I made a video back saying like, would you make fun of someone if, like, would you make fun of a guy if he got a delivery from Tom Brady and it was like a jersey? Would you, would you make fun of him for that? And secondly, then I was just like, you know, as I started to make more videos of different PR boxes and like products that they would use. They were like, I can't believe you still like them. You'd like all of them. And I'm like, yeah, I like the whole damn team.

And eventually, I just stopped apologizing. Eventually, I was like, yes, I was thrilled to get a chocolate box from Kim Kardashian. And yes, I like Kendall, Kylie and Chris and Chloe. Like, I love them all. I love Courtney too. Like, I, you just, you're right. Differing opinions used to be celebrated. But what's happened now was like people have their own ideologies, their own ideas, and they are offended if yours are counter to theirs. And they can't, Like, and people, some people, not everybody, some people can't wrap their head around how you would have a counter idea to theirs. It's offensive. Like, I don't, that's the whole, that's the whole reason you're a human being is to hear different perspectives.

Totally. Like, what if we all just went through? We all agree. Yeah. It's boring. Completely. And I think I really, also, I'm trying to take a stand on, like, you don't have to agree with everything that a content creator or an influencer that you follow says. Like, I have a great example.

Yesterday and I'm I ask me anything. I do ask me anythings on Mondays and Thursday. every week, very intense ones. Someone was like, is Lulu Lemon Chugi? And I said, yes, because it is. The meltdown that was happening in my DMs. And they were like, what should I do? Should I burn my Lulu's?

I can't believe you said this. I'm on following you. I'm like, guys, as much as it pains me to say this, I'm not God. And you can like my comedy and you can disagree with my Lulu Lemon stance. You can like my product recommendations and not like my vlogs. You can pick and choose and that's the beauty of it. just because I said one thing that you don't agree with, it doesn't mean that we're not cool.

You know what I mean? Like, it's nuts. I would rather slip my throat than have every single one of my friends agree with everything I say. Totally. That sounds like the most boring, goddamn existence of life. Totally. And I think sometimes I just say things to like, sometimes I do have unpopular opinions. And I'm like, oh, like I hate sandwiches and I hate brunch that also like people really up in arms about that.

Because it's my opinion. It doesn't mean that you can't. like my content doesn't mean we can't be friends. I just, I'm not going to eat a fucking sandwich. I try to challenge myself all the time to say like, even if I don't like somebody personally, that doesn't mean that they're always wrong, right? Like, I try to, I try to be objective about like, okay, this person may rub me the complete wrong way. I may not like anything about them, but that doesn't mean everything they say is wrong and they could have a valid point. It doesn't mean just because you don't like someone, they're always wrong. Totally. That's kind of how we're

living now, right? Like, I don't like this side or I don't like that side of me because I don't like them, they're wrong. They might have good ideas. Yeah. You don't have. You don't the like and they still be a fucking prick or an asshole. But their ideas could still be valid. Wow, that is the second really important thing that I'm going to take away. I knew I was going to learn a lesson from both of you today and now I have them. That's so interesting. Well, we learned so many lessons in this podcast.

I'm actually going to have you back on to talk about your skincare because I feel like that is a full podcast. We've got to do a full on everything. 100% and skin and body and like eating and everything and fitness. And then maybe kick him off because like... We can do it. I would love that. That's why. Just take it out of the room.

I don't want to be a leech, you know. No, I want a tick. A tick. A tick. I want to know more about like the beauty stuff and the skin stuff. I guess my last question for you would be a book, a podcast, a resource that you would leave our audience with that you think has brought you a lot of value. And for you, your journey is so unique.

But I think it's very aspirational. So if there's something that helped you along that, that would be amazing. I will actually go back to Jen Atkins' book, blowing my way to the top. I read that at a really pivotal stage in my career. And it was so humble and specific and resourceful. And there were so many good little tips and tricks in there. And she is an incredibly successful person. And she also seems to have a great life and balance.

And I learned a ton from her book. So I would really recommend that to anybody. You are such a great person to be in the position that you're in. And I personally am excited to watch you as a creator. have so much respect for what you've built. Thank you. Thank you for coming on. Everyone probably already follows you, but where can they find you? Pimp yourself out. Tell us what you're working on like anything we can do to support what you're doing. Thank you so much. I am at Tanks, T-I-N-X on TikTok and at It's Me Tinks on Instagram. Please follow along. I'm there 24 hours a day.

You think I'm kidding. You need to do a rich Austin mom post. You have to, you have to be my, I have a consultant. I don't have to be the person to consult. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Yeah, no, no, no, no, I want to come. I've been to Austin once and I loved it. I love Texas. I really... It's cool out there. It's so cool. I've been to Dallas. I love it. I have a lot of good friends from Texas. I think it's a great, a great state and just so cool. And I... The energy's good. It's really good energy. Yeah, it's great. Good time. Hold on. You forgot to pimped one thing out. Her Craig's ice cream Sunday. So that's why I'm going to Vegas today is because Craig's vegan just opened in... It just opened in Vegas and I have the Hot Girl Sunday. It's perfect for sharing with your girlfriends when you're on a girl trip or your party friends. It's just honestly, it's perfect and it makes a really, really cute Instagram.

How great is Craig too? Like, he's like everything you want in a person in that position. Yeah, he is so kind. And I'm so grateful. Like I remember the first time that I went, I was like, I love this restaurant. It has the best vibe. Like everybody seems kind of like family here. He's walking around.

And when I think like I have my own dessert there. That's wild. It's just, I'm so grateful, you guys, for everything. It's unbelievable. No, well, I was just going to ask you which hotel it's in. It's in resorts world. Okay, maybe we'll try to go over there. It's the new hotel, yeah.

If not, though, we're going to go to Christ. You can get it in L.A. Farah snapped it. Did you see my girlfriend? She's the best. Oh, my God. Your Sunday, like everywhere. She's the cutest person.

Yeah, she is cute. I love her. Thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me. That was amazing. Wait, don't go. Do you want to win a bunch of skinny confidential swag? Think of pop socket.

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