The Bossticks - Jennie Garth - How To Be Happy, Fulfilled, & Focused By Choosing Yourself

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

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I became passionate about acting as I was doing it because I felt like I was good at it And I felt like I had that purpose and I was able to move people or touch people or get some reaction out of them. Just feeling that I was doing something well, you know, made me keep wanting to do it. It's an emotionally charged industry. It's an art that's all about emotions. So when people have said, you're so emotional, why are you so emotional? You know, do you ever women get this sometimes? You're so emotional.

Like what? You need to come from a non-emotion place about this. And I always said, you know what, I'm not emotional. I'm emotion full. Like I am full of emotions. And I, and I'm not afraid of them and I'm not ashamed of them. Hello everybody. Once again, welcome back to the Skinny Confidential, him and her show. Today we're sitting down with Jenny Garth. Jenny is a longtime actress best known for her role as Kelly Taylor on the television series, Beverly Hills 90210. Today we discuss a successful course of an actress in her career, the side effects of fame, keeping up with a evolving television industry while being a mom and businesswoman. We also talk about the importance of gratitude and fulfillment, the importance of choosing

yourself and the need to block out the noise and focus on your own wants and happiness, how to balance motherhood and a career, embracing authenticity, invulnerability, and learning new skills to build a new business. With that, Jenny Garth, welcome with the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her show. This is the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her. I am so excited to have you in students. I think if you go back to your DMs, I might have harassed you a couple years ago. I've been trying to go through all different avenues to book you on the show.

I remember watching you when I was a little girl and you were my favorite. You really were out of the whole entire cast and just falling in love with you. And to see you now and off air you to tell me that you're entrepreneurial and you're tapping into that is so cool to see your evolution. So I think to start out with this, I would like to know who you were. before acting. Who was I before? I was an actress. I was just a little girl.

Like I literally had, you know, I lived in Illinois. I grew up on a farm. And my free time was spent playing with animals and riding my bike, you know. And I just come from very, I want to say simple, but just easy people, Midwestern, no pretense. And that's who I am. And I came, you know, I'm from the Midwest. So. What was high school, elementary school?

Like, elementary school was interesting because that's the point where you realize, oh, wait, it's not just fun in games all the time. There's a lot of other energies involved, a lot of other females. And like, I remember that being a very tumultuous time for me because I didn't know my place. My sisters on our farm, I had this huge family and I never needed anything outside of that. And then when I started to go to school and realized I need friends, you know, I have to have to have to figure out how to make friends, how to keep friends. All of that was very new for me. And I think for most young girls, it can be challenging. And so that was great.

In high school, I only went to high school for two years until I realized that I was going to move to L.A. and give acting a try. And at that point, I got my GED. So I left school. How does that even though transpire that you get from, you're on the farm, you're in Illinois, you're in college and you're like, I'm going to get my GED and move to L.A. What's that conversation with your parents? There was a gap. Okay, so when I was on the farm, that was, I was before 12.

After 12, I moved to Arizona where it was like a little bit more city. Right. We're in Arizona. Phoenix, Glendale. Yeah. My dad was very sick. So he needed a drier, warmer client for his heart health. So that's why we moved to Arizona.

And I went to... I lived there for a bit. Did you where do you live? I went to the Harvard of the desert University of Arizona in Tucson, Arizona. Okay, okay. Basically the only place that would have let me step foot on campus. Yeah. That's a fun school.

For my formal education to become a podcaster later. I heard it's a party school. I did learn that. I heard it too. I heard things too. Just lock it out of your mind. When did you decide, though, that you wanted to be an actress? What's the conversation with your parents?

what do they say? How do they respond? Well, it wasn't my idea at all. I was teaching dance classes to little girls in Glendale, Arizona, at a corner, you know, like a shopping mall strip dance shop that it's like on the show, dance moms. And I was just teaching little girls how to tap dance. And then this opportunity came up for a scholarship pageant where I could get a scholarship to modeling or to acting or something like that. So I decided to do it and I did it and I was discovered at that,

that experience in Laughlin, Nevada. And the man who discovered me said, would you, if you ever want to give it a shot, give me a call, basically. And he is still to this day my manager. That's cool. Yeah. So it's quite an amazing story because we've been together since the inception.

of the idea of acting. Is this back in the day, I remember this, didn't they used to just send scouts out and they would find models? They did, they did. That's how they used to do it. Now, there was no Instagram. No, this man, though, he wasn't scouting.

He was doing a favor for a friend by filling in as a guest judge at this rinky dink, a little scholarship pageant. And he had never discovered anyone like that before. He had never gone up to anyone and said, hey, do you want to be an actress? But he was with his wife. So it gave him a certain amount of cred.

And I wasn't too frightened by him coming up to me. I was with my mom, of course. And we spent time getting to know him and his wife. And then they said, you know, if you ever come out to California, let us know. And so we did. One day we just, my mom and I decided, let's try it. But there was never a plan. There was never a burning desire inside of me to become an actress.

But when you look back on how you were as a child now with perspective, Was there like a sparkle or an energy that you see that made you have that it factor? Well, I was the baby of the family. My daughter and I would just, we discussed this occasionally, like the birth order. I was just talking about it with my older daughter, Luca, to the birth order and being the baby of the family, you get a lot more attention probably than the siblings sometimes. I used to do, I used to bake for bribes. Like I would bake my sister's bribes to get out of the chores of the,

farm. And I would do a lot of dancing for everyone to entertain them. So that's the extent of like that, whatever that sparkle was. I don't know. It was just the baby of the family. When you got to L.A., what did that look like? Well, I had left one of my sisters in Illinois, left my other two sisters in Arizona. It was just me and my mom in an apartment in Van Nuys. and we would get auditions and I would take acting school at night and I would drive around the city to auditions with my Thomas guide, my map, and my mom would drop me off and pick me up at the auditions. That's what that was like. But I was lucky because that didn't last very long. I got my first job pretty quickly.

I mean, I really did luck out. Was there any rejection though before that that you experienced before lucking out? you call it lucking out. I'm sure it's more than luck. But was there rejection before that? Other than just personal challenges or personal rejections along, you know, growing up, things that happen. But in the industry, no, I got my first job. I think it was, my first job was on Growing Pains, which was, you remember that show with, Curtis Cameron? Kurt Cameron. Kurt Cameron. And Alan Thick, right? So that was my big, most.

moment to shine and I had one line and it was sticky, sticky, sticky. That's all I got to say. I was like, it was weird. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I think men might have written that line for me. But I thought, wow, this is pretty unfulfilling. Just saying one line, I wanted more. So I kept going and I auditioned for a bunch of other stuff. I did another show with Barbara Eden. Got very lucky on that. That was an NBC primetime show. It was called a brand new life. And I got to play Barbara Eden. daughter. Barbara Eden, of course, is I Dream of Jeannie. And so she has this amazing work ethic, and she's just a pro, and she's been in this business since it began. You know what I mean? She's seen everything, done everything. And I would just sit and watch Barbara work, just like staring at

her, like thinking, wow, she's so amazing. And I learned so much about just on-set etiquette, how to be a pro, how to not be a diva. And I, you know, I think she really is. instilled a lot of, my parents really instilled a lot of intense work ethic in me, which I'm so appreciative of, but I think Barbara did too as far as just the business. And is the next big break 90210, or was there stuff in between there? There were a couple little things. I did a Disney movie. That's when they were making Disney movies. And I did, I think that was it. And then 90210 came long and it was down to two shows that were going at the same time. There was one that was like a musical, was going to be directed and produced by Kenny Ortega that was called Hull High, I think.

And then there was Beverly Hills 902 and O, which was going to be produced by Aaron Spelling. Aaron had just come off of kind of a lull in his creative whirlwind of a career. He had done a million shows, Charlie's Angels, Fantasy Island, Love Bo, all those great, great shows of the 80s. and he wanted to venture into teen drama. And so this was the first teen drama that any network put on the air. When you auditioned, did you know that there was something special happening? Could you feel it? I knew that there was, I could feel that there was something new happening for teens, for young people.

Like I, by just the material that we were reading and the scripts that we were being given. and the other actors and just their ability to bring the scripts to life in such a real and authentic way, I knew something was happening for young people that were going to be seeing it. Yeah. Did the rest of the cast feel like that? Like, was there like, I don't know, was it harmonious with the rest of the cast? Were you all on the same page? For sure.

In the beginning, that first season, we were all just super excited about what was happening. And the show wasn't an instant hit. It took a while for it to catch on. Really? Yeah, I think it was in the third season the show actually took off. How did they, if it took that long, they just, how did they let it run that long in the beginning? That's a good question, because that doesn't happen these days, right? You get two.

Aaron greased the wheels. You get one second. I mean, Aaron spelling certainly had a little bit of pull. A little bit of pull in the industry. And we started on a new network. It was Fox. and they had, you know, the Simpsons and married with children and us. So we didn't have anybody lined up to take our spot yet

because nobody knew what was going to happen with this new network, Fox. The show explored so many taboos that weren't being talked about. And I'm sure there were so young girls, especially watching it and seeing you guys go through domestic abuse, emotional abuse, eating disorders, cat fight. Like, it was just like, you just felt like there was like all these different things that you were seeing. Did you guys get pushback from outside forces for being so sort of taboo? Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I think the show really helped to take sort of stigma off of talking about topics that were off limits for young people to talk about, which they shouldn't have been because they were topics that the young people were dealing with. So we, we never shied away from any kind of. criticism or discouragement about talking about heavy-hitting topics because that's what the teens were dealing with. That's what all teens deal with still to this day. And if they don't have a way to talk about it or see it reflected in front of them or modeled in front of them in some way, then they're going to feel really alone and lost. So this show was, you know, that opportunity to create a connection with that community of young people and sort of give them that platform, that voice that that thing that they could relate to.

It's interesting to think about platform because we talk about so many things now, right? And I think this is not that long ago where some of these things were considered very taboo. Right. And not just like everyday conversations. Now it's this guy, everything. You can talk about whatever you want now. But then nobody was talking about teen pregnancy.

Nobody was talking about date rape. Nobody was talking about drug addiction or all the things that the show talked about. My character in particular really was put through the ringer. She was the drama one and she was, you know, shot, what else, stalked by a lesbian lover. Oh, wow. Got an occult. There's so many. I can't remember anymore right now, but addicted to diet pills, addicted to drugs.

You also had this, this, like, passionate love affair with Luke Perry. I feel like that's what I remember. I remember a season where it was like you and Luke Perry, the whole season. Yeah, that was the second. season where they decided to try the love triangle, you know, that whole. Yeah. So I was in the love triangle. It was Brenda and Kelly and Dylan. And Brenda and Dylan had broken up. I just wanted everybody to remember that. They had broken up. And then Kelly and Dylan got together. But that was on the show. Yes. Okay, I'm going to go in and out of

what's real and what's on the show. These are the characters. And so Kelly got a lot of back, I would say, for being the one that broke up, Brendan, Dylan, all these years. Go to any convention, go to any fan forum out there right now, and there are heated debates about who likes Brenda and who likes Kelly. Is it weird being an actress

when people, like, believe so deeply? Like, they think you are the character? Yes. And then they can't let it go and realize, like, hey, this was just a part. I mean, they see you in real life. Is that strange sometimes? It is very strange,

because the fans of Beverly Hills 9-0-2-1-0, the original show, are so devoted and committed and loyal, and that's why they're amazing. But they are also at the same time, sometimes does feel like stuck in time, like, that's not real. Those were characters, and I was just reading the lines and doing what they told me to do, but it did translate into who liked me and who didn't like me in the real world. So that was, and it still is that way. And that's the craziest part about it. John Stamos in his book, he writes about how he for so long tried so hard to step out of the Uncle Jesse role. And he said that he just did this Broadway play with the guy from Star Wars. He did it with James Earl Jones.

And after someone said like a Darth Vader line to him and it's like, oh, okay, this is just what happens. He's like, they all did this beautiful play. and it was like so much applause and everyone loved both of them on stage and John Stamos thought I'm going to walk out of here and they're finally going to recognize me for this other role and he said he walked out to this crowd

of people waiting for them and someone screamed Dark Vader. Dark. Sorry, guys, I'm I'm 9-0-210. It's not a Star Wars that you can help. It's fine. It's a big thing in our marriage. Yeah, I pronounce things wrong. But it's

Uncle Jesse. They screamed Uncle Jesse too. John Stamos realized at that moment that, like, also this huge accomplished actor was also being called his role. And it was like this like really like a revelation for him. I mean, it's you have to accept it and embrace it. And that's what I've chosen to do instead of fight it. Because I'm so appreciative of that person that remembers me and wants to call me Kelly Taylor that I meant something to that person. that I meant something to that person at some point in their life and had an impact on them.

And I'm never going to be, you know, upset when somebody makes reference to that. And like you said, loyal fans or followers of your work will follow you at wherever you go and watch whatever you do or hear whatever you have to say. But they're always going to remember that first time they fell in love with you or that character that you played that had such a significant, role in their life. I also think it shows that you guys are remembered for these roles that you were so good at playing the character. It shows you were such a good actress or an actor. Like that's what I told John Stamos. I was like, I mean, that's cool that people associate you. They really believed you were Uncle Jesse. When you're on

set and there's all these things going on on television with all the drama and all the different things, is there stuff going on offset because you guys are young teenagers. Like, is there dynamics or are you guys all friends and it's fine? We were, it's brothers and sisters, that kind of relationship. We were really sequestered. I like to say trapped, held captive. But that's not sure. I'm just joking. Stockholm syndrome. In a warehouse in Van Nuys, actually, where we filmed the show. And we were together all the time in a very small, confined space. Like each one had our own little basically cubicle dressing room and a hallway. And we were always together. We ate together. We did our hair and makeup together. It was all of us all the time. And I think that in any certain situation where that happens, you're going to have ups and downs. You're going to have times when people are aligned and people aren't aligned. You know, it's natural. So there were absolutely different levels in those 10 years of friendship and camaraderie and support for one another. There's so many people that I think admire and also glamorize what actors and actresses do.

What do you think personally are some of the biggest challenges that people just may be unaware of? Because from the outside, I think a lot of people look at your profession and that's like the end all be all for many people. What are some of the maybe challenges or things that they wouldn't know about? Are there any challenges or is it just great? Oh, no. There are challenges. I mean, I'll just speak for my own experience. and for where I am right now in my life being someone who, like we were talking about,

is forever remembered as a certain role or forever cemented into people's mind as a certain look or at a certain age. So cut to, for me, 30-some years later, I'm not 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 years old and that's what people have me in their minds as. So for me now at 52, There is a lot of internal, I would say, struggle that happens as you age in the spotlight, as you in Hollywood, as you progress in age, especially for women, pretty much only for women, honestly. But I am at the place where I just have to embrace where I am and continue to move forward and not get stuck in looking back at what was, but look forward at what I want to create, what do I want to to do next? What kind of legacy do I want to leave behind for my three daughters? Because for me,

now that's all that's all it's about. I work for my daughters to give them something when I'm gone. So, you know, that's what's important to me as my girls. After you are done with 90210, is there a weird feeling? And what I mean by that is a lot of people, they get so famous and so known. and it's so much and then that stops. And I feel like either a depression happens or, or maybe it doesn't, but it seems like you went to Mount Everett's and then you got to come down. Ready you go from there. Yeah, it's hard.

I would think that'd be hard. It's like cocaine or something. It really is. You know, I work with a doctor. His name is Dr. Amen. Yeah. He's probably knowing.

Yeah. He's the best. He scanned our brains. Oh, good. What'd you find? What didn't we find? That's another episode. That we talked about it.

We actually have like reverse. We won't go on attention. That's the way I was with my ex-husband. Sorry not to say that it's going to happen to you guys. But he had one front, something happening in the front and I had something happening in the back. No, he was saying I have a female brain and she has a male brain. Oh. I'm more slow.

He's more quick. Interesting. Did you guys have slow and quick? Or was, did he tell you? No, that was a slow and quick, active and less active. Yeah, that's probably a better way to say it. You don't think he calls you slow. I'm okay to be slow.

I'm the tortoise in the hair. I'm okay to be slow processing. There are parts of your brain that are more active than others, right? Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. He's more anxious. I'm more like, go with the flow if you really want to break it down.

How many times you've been hitting the head, buddy? Yeah, right. Go ahead. So you know, so Dr. Aiman. So Dr. Aman talks a lot about the effects of fame, the effects of fame early in a brain development. And he talks a lot about, you know, he has very, very big clients like, Justin Bieber and Miley Cyrus, you don't really get any bigger than those two famous people, right? There's something that happens like you were saying, like, you're at the top, you're at the

top of the peak, and then when you, the next thing doesn't reach that same, you know, altitude, you don't feel like you're as good or something. Like, it messes with your head on it. And it's also like you can get and see and do everything when you're that famous. and then nothing in life is exciting anymore because you've had it all, you know? So any new experiences you have has to like sort of process, you have to figure out a way to be really super grateful for even the tiniest things in your life. It really is experience stretching. Like, and Michael has this great analogy about the sunset.

I know, but it's a good one. I thought about it like 18. She will appreciate it. I'll try to go really quick. It's a good one. It's kind of what she's saying. Say you and I went somewhere and then we were like sitting, you know, looking out of something like, wow, life can't get any better. This is a beautiful sunset.

Then you go the same place next year. But instead of being on the beach, like maybe you're in a great hotel. Same sunset. Like, can't get any better. Then next time you go, you're on a boat maybe. Same sunset can't get any better. But then you go the fourth time and you're just on the beach again the first time. And it's like life can't.

This is the worst thing that's ever having me. So the thing that used to make you the happiest is now something that makes you sad. And we're not good as humans at contextual. stretching the experience to the point where something that should make you happy that would be great for most people is now something that actually like completely derails you because we've stretched you you push the ceiling too high and then it's like how do you come back and I imagine for fame when you've got the top and then even if you get a great gig but it's not the other thing right it's different it feels like I'm failing or I feel human beings are not good at feeling like you're regressing we only feel happy a lot of the time when we feel like we're progressing right we all want to keep growing and moving forward and evolving. I mean, that's the whole point of it, right? But I think that for me, it was about finding the gratitude. And that brought the magic back to everything. Like, I can sit and talk to fans of 9-210 and listen to the same stories. I've heard a million times about how much they love this episode or that character or whatever. And I love it. I love hearing it. And I'm so grateful

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Hi. And we were talking to him about it. And he realized that after all the stuff and all the craziness, the happiest he was was when he was just kind of surfing on a beach with his friends without any of the stuff. And it was like this big revelation. He was like, you just keep stacking all the stuff in the accomplishments and you don't find gratitude and fulfillment. It could become really challenging.

What's the point? Yeah. That's kind of what he said. And he was like take it a lot of times because of who he is, the message gets lost and like easy for you to say. Right. But he was basically trying to say like he's done all the crazy stuff and none of it is as fulfilling is just like the easy stuff that everybody already has.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I think that that's an interesting way to look at it. And I think we're sort of saying the same thing, definitely. And I think it all ties back into sort of what I want to do with my next steps on this planet, what I want to do with my time and doing my brand and having the messaging of I choose me being the backbone of everything that my brand I'm going to, you know, instilling that message in people for me. is what is the why for me and making other people, other women, other men appreciate where they are and having the grace and the gratitude, the space of graciousness to allow themselves to choose themselves

because we spend a lot of time worrying about what other people think and what other people want us to do and what other people want us to look like on all the things that go around in our brains, you know, And so to really come back to the messaging of who am I and what do I want and what is going to make me happy in this moment, what's going to make me feel safe in this moment, and what's going to make me feel like I'm contributing to whatever it is that I want to contribute to in this moment. And it's taking out all the other noise and all the other accomplishments and all the other houses and boats and all the things and just bringing it right back to where to you, to choosing yourself and choosing to listen to your, you know, true self. I feel like you had to go through a lot to get to where you are now with this mindset. It seems like, and tell me if I'm wrong, but if you're a young, beautiful girl and you're on this huge show, you mentioned off air like you'd feel like you don't have a seat at the table because everyone's trying to pull to strings and tell you where to stand and tell you what to do and tell you to look like this and tell you to wear this. It's got to get to a point where you're just like, shut the fuck up. And you just want to do it your way on your terms, how you want to do it.

Was that a process? Yeah. Coming off of a show, I mean, especially Beverly Hills 9-2-0, being at that age, at those formative years of just having everything given to you or laid out for you, like, oh, here's your drink for the day. And at 2 o'clock, you're going to be able to take a bathroom break, and then we're going to come back and you're going to go into makeup. up, like you were literally led around all day long, and then you would go home and you'd go to

sleep, and you'd wake up and do it all over again. So that kind of routine really sort of sets some deep grooves into your brain. So initially just stepping out of that, literally saying, when do I go to the bathroom? Like, how do I find the bathroom? You know, like, when you're so young and you've been just taken care of on that level, because honestly, it's not that they wanted to take care of me. It's that they wanted to know where I was at all times and know how they could get me back on set and know that I was ready and prepared and all the things to going out there and living life on your own and having to figure all of what, who am I? If I don't have all of that, what is it that I want to focus on? What is it that I want to do? I was fortunate enough

to become pregnant very early. I was 24 years old. And I was able to at that point take all of the attention that I was putting on myself and all that pressure I was putting on myself and put all of that attention on another, on the baby. And I'm putting her needs first and taking care of her. So I think that I was so fortunate. And that's one of the reasons why I feel like I am so grounded. And I just, I don't enjoy focusing on myself so much. It really actually makes me a little crazy when I start to get too wrapped up. and me and where and what and how when I put my focus back on my kids back on my husband back on

my dogs everything just sort of falls into place so it was learning that trying to learn how to do that for myself which was I used to call my my grandma and I when I was like you know 19 and I'd be like I feel depressed I feel depressed about ABCD and she used to say to me get outside yourself and it's the best advice it's like stop it's it's it's self It's slightly narcissistic to just be wallowing in yourself. And it does get boring. You have to get outside yourself. You have to get interested in other things, curious.

It makes you feel better. And that makes total sense what you're saying about your daughter. It's like taking care of something else. When you had your first baby at 24, are you married at this point? We were not married yet. Not married. And how quickly did you have another baby? Well, we got married four years later.

That was not my choice. I would have gotten married earlier and just done the whole nine yards right away. But my husband at the time, Peter, he wanted us to have a solid boat. And the ocean that we were sailing in was really rocky. There was a lot going on. So he needed to feel a little bit more certain. And so we got married four years later. And I didn't have my next baby until.

five years later, so a year after we got married. And then what about the third? The third one was four years later after that one, so they're all spread out. Were you in mommy mode for a long time, or were you also acting? Like, what did that look like? Yeah. That's a lot of work. I think about two kids and I was like, okay, I can stay in the diaper face for a few more.

I just had to leave my daughter to come to work today. She doesn't understand. No. No, she doesn't understand. They don't yet. It's so hard. She's like, we can't play today. and I'm trying to explain it when I leave.

I said, I'm going to work. So I'm going to leave the podcast. So I can buy you get help. It's hard. It really is hard. Yeah. I was fortunate enough to be able to bring my kids with me to work. I didn't even ask.

I just did. Yeah. Made it happen, you know, set up a situation where I could bring my kids and they would be safe and quiet enough that they didn't bother anybody. And I brought in my own help to help take care of them while I would have to go in and out, you know. So I got to have my kids with me a lot of the time. time. But it is hard to juggle all those things, especially as a young mom. I was very young.

And, you know, their dad was busy doing, traveling a lot for different roles and movies and stuff. So it was a lot of time was just me and the girls. And our Nina, who's helped me raise my daughter since I, you know, since they were born. And we're all very, very close. But it takes you have to find that team of people that can really help you keep it what you want it to be, because otherwise it will just get out of control. I have a selfish question. When you look back and as you were working and bringing your kids, are you happy that you showed that work ethic to your kids or do you wish you took more time off? I always think about this for myself. I'm wondering. Well, I didn't, I wasn't able to like sort of design my own schedule. I kind of had

to work whenever it came. Right. So they just understood that when it's time to work, mom's going to go to work. And we're probably going to go with her and it's going to be a lot of fun because they have great snacks there, you know, and there's a lot of nice people. So I was lucky in that respect. But it was, you know, that's the one thing. When I'm with my kids, I'm 100% with them. when they were little like I I focused completely on them and making them feel like the top priority because that's what they are that's what they were that's what they always will be even though you're going away and working just instilling in them that they're I'm right there on the phone whenever you need me like I'll stop everything the second you need me and I'll help you

because that's what I'm your mom and I'm always going to do that for you you sound like a really good mom oh thank you so what what is happening before you launch your podcast career-wise, like walk us through what that looked like. I did a show called What I Like About You. Yeah, and that was huge. That was big. For me, that was a big accomplishment because I had come from doing all of this drama on 90210 and always crying every day at work and having, that's really hard, especially as a young person

is still trying to figure out who you are to every day be like, just dive deep into like pain and jealousy, for the role, yeah, for anger, all the things that Kelly Taylor had. Not crying out, but like on the camera. On camera. So as an actress, you put yourself in that mindset in order to convey that message and do that scene justice, right? I just wondered about this. So do you think of like a personal trauma to get those emotions out?

Sometimes, yeah. I mean, certain people, everybody has their own techniques, her own ways, but I put myself so far into that person's frame of mind. and position and situation that it's in me. It's all over me. It's like an essence. It's hard to walk, you know, turn it off. If you wake up on the wrong side of the bed and then the tears would just start falling out of me.

You could think about a lot of things. Sometimes you have to go to really dark places in order to tap into those emotions. And there's sometimes when you're like, oh, it's not working. I'm not getting there. I'm not feeling it. You got to go to like dark, dark places sometimes just to get. yet to do your job. That's kind of depressing.

Heavy. I know. We had a lot of fun, too. It'll get me wrong. There was pool parties and, you know. It's weird to think about, like, okay, today I'm going to work, and I'm going to think about the worst moments in my life and cry, and I'm going to a bunch of people.

And then they're going to say cut, and I'm going to sit there and think, did I do that well enough? Do they like, did they like my performance? I can do it better. Can I try it one more time? And then they're like, no, no, it was good. It was fine. just move on. You're like, okay, well, then switch gears. Let me go take care of my baby in the

trailer and play, you know, stack the blocks with her and have the best time ever. Oh, Jenny, we need you back on set. Okay, let me just get back into that. Like, I'm in the hospital. I've got a stomach wound or whatever it is. You know what I mean? Like, it's a crazy world and it's an emotional, like up and down, up and down, up and down for years and years and years. If your daughters came to you and said they wanted to do it, what would you say? I would say, okay. I would encourage them to do whatever they want to do and whatever they're passionate about because I think that's so important as finding something that you're passionate about. I became passionate about acting as I was doing it because I felt like I was good at it and I felt like I had that purpose and I was able to move people

or touch people or get some reaction out of them in their lives. Like they got to shut down all the things that were bothering them in their lives and turn on that TV for an hour and check out and have an emotional, you know, some sort of different story happening for them for that hour. So I think just feeling that I was doing something well, you know, made me keep wanting to do it. But it was definitely an emotionally challenging. It's an emotionally charged industry. It's a, you know, it's an art that's all about emotions. So I, there have been a lot of times, not a lot, but like several times when people have said,

you're so emotional, why are you so emotional? You know, do you ever, women get this sometimes? You're so emotional. Like what? You need to come from a non-emotion place about this. And I always said, you know what, I'm not emotional. I'm emotionful. Like, I am full of emotions.

And I'm not afraid of them. and I'm not ashamed of them. And if you have a problem with my emotions, then you're probably talking to the wrong person. I also think if someone's triggered by your emotions, that's them projecting something onto you and they should look at why it triggers them. Absolutely.

I mean, because emotions are just feelings based on thoughts. It makes people nervous. Yeah, but if you break it down, there's nothing to be nervous about it when you see someone having an emotion. That shouldn't make you uncomfortable. Next time I bite your head off, I'm going to say these are my emotions

and if you're triggered by them that's a you problem it's interesting one thing about having kids and I'm sure you've experienced this is like young kids have not had learned the ability to hide their emotions yet and I think it's so pure because you'll see them either get scared

or embarrassed or super happy or anything and it's like a pure unbridled emotion without the guard of like all the things that we learn to do as adults and I think that's good for adults to see or it's been good for me to see. Does that make sense? Do you know what I'm saying here? I definitely do. I think you have just such a more human experience with a child because you get to see

like what's happening with them real time and they're not like you said, they're not putting up any guards. They're not hiding anything. They're not trying to mask anything. They haven't learned yet. No. I wish we never had to learn those things. I know. When you guys are saying this, I'm like, I hope my kids never like learned. But it's strange to think about because I think then they do start to learn. But yeah, I don't want to learn. I think you should always wear your emotions on your sleeve. I'm just going to say it. Like, you should, people should know where you stand. They should know how you feel. I should know how you feel. Like, I don't think that we should guard ourselves from our emotions. It's weird doing this for as long as we've done it because there's, there's all these ebs and you've

seen this of like what you can say, what you can't say, what you can respond to, what you can't respond to. But I don't, I don't think that this format is interesting in a guarded format where people, where you're worried about what you show or what you say. And I think the people that do well in this space are the ones that kind of throw caution of the wind and just be themselves. And it's weird because I'm doing this, I'm always trying to, like the advice I give to people is like you just, you have to just go out there and be all that. But there's so much outside pressure, especially now. There really is. I mean, growing up in the business I was taught, you know, media training. I didn't ever have proper media training, but I learned, because I

have been doing interviews my whole life, I learned what I could say and what I couldn't say, how I should say things. If I said something the wrong way, it was going to be misinterpreted. So I really learned how to play it safe and be very PC about things all the time. But yeah, I think I'm learning that with my own podcast now. I'm on the second episode of, of, My podcast is called I Choose Me. And it's all about talking about our feelings and our choices in life. And it's imperative that I am authentic with them and real. And so I have spent a lot of time dancing around being the real me.

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And like, I'm sure all the publicists that book people on the show are going to be like, they're not kind of like me saying this, but I always tell them, like, if you come in with a bunch of edits and this and now, I'm like, it's just not going to land as well as it would is if you just have someone just come and be themselves. And, of course, like, we're not in the business of making people look bad. That's what we're trying to do. But I just think be more open and roll and vulnerable. And you'll be surprised. People already like the people. But I think it's another layer of like, wow, I didn't realize that I actually relate to the person as well. I'm excited for you to do the show. I think this new podcast, I think that it's like a whole.

new frontier for you. It's it's so it's it's all about you just being who you are and not having someone pull any strings. I think it's going to be cool. It's cool. My husband, Dave, has been really supportive and encouraging of me doing that. You know, he's not in the industry. He knows sometimes if he gets the chance and he loves it. But he's always been like, you're, you're so funny. You're so real. Like you need to let everybody see that about you. because the way I know you is how I want everyone else to know you. So now to have that freedom from my partner saying, it's okay, go out there and rock it, go out there and shine, do you.

I'm not going to be embarrassed by anything you say. I'm not going to be mad by anything you say because it's the truth. Like, it's your truth. And so it's just a, it's a good feeling to have that support behind me, encouraging me, you know, to go there and let my real self come out. And you also have, you've done your podcast, you said, your other podcast for five years. which is a really long time. So you're probably incredibly comfortable on a mic. And I mean, that was probably amazing training for this next chapter. Yeah. That was good. When we started on,

I do it with Tori spelling and also with IHeart. And when we started on that, they were like, literally like, here's a mic. Okay, we're rolling. And I had no idea what I was doing. Podcasting is an art form. There's, you know, there's skill involved and you have to know how to structure the conversation, where you want it to go, how you want it to end, all the things. I knew nothing. I was literally like, okay, I'll just talk here, you know. And so it took me a good, probably year of OMG to feel comfortable being on a show. And because that one we have also our co-host, Amy Sugarman, does it with us because she's a super fan of Beverly Hills 9-210. So she joins us and gives us that real, like, fan input that we love. It's much different having a three-hander than it is having your own podcast where you're the sole speaker. And it's all about what you're saying. So I've learned so much and I feel like I'm still going to learn so much more on I Choose Me, the podcast. So I'm just really excited for it.

I'm excited for you. It's also different being interviewed versus being the interviewer. So different. I have a really important question. Have you seen Candy Spellings gift wrapping room? No. You've never seen it. No.

Have you ever gotten a gift that's been wrapped in the gift wrapping room? Maybe. Probably. Because I had Josh Flagg came on here who's really good friends with her. And I had to dissect that room. I find that to be one of the more interesting things I've ever heard. A gift wrapping room is like a, it's intense. Wouldn't you want one if you could have one?

Yes. It might be like four or fifth. Get him out of his office and let's make a gift. No, that's not fourth or fifth. It's down there. Mine's like top three. I would ruin your office for the gift wrapping girl. I feel like you need to go see that gift wrapping room.

Is it still a thing? I don't even know. I was never invited into the gift wrapping room. Imagine you're just going through your house like, oh, what's this room? You know, could really use a gift wrapping room. Put that one there. I think it's genius.

It's so nice. It's like having a Nordstrom's gift wrapping thing in your house. I think it's pretty cool. I had to ask if you've ever seen it. Do you actually know how to wrap a gift? No. Okay. What?

Okay. Come on. No. I have like a gift wrapping section in the back of one of my closet. So anytime you have to wrap a present, you've got to like dig out the things and find the scissors. it's not fun. I'm a fan of those sacks where you just pull the thing around it.

Perfect. Throw it in there. Easy. Yeah. You and Tori spelling are really, it seems like really actually like very good friends. We've known each other a long time. That's cool. That's cool that you guys have like have all this history and now you can do a show and like

you're actually friends. Yeah. It's fun because we get to relive those moments as adults and also just, you know, watching the show back now as a grown one. woman and seeing, A, how, wow, that was awesome. Like, you have a whole new appreciation for it. And for me as a young girl, like, what I used to look like or how I used to, you know, carry myself, like all the things that I get to see by watching it. But also just like, I never watched the show. I only did my parts on the show. So now when I'm sitting down for an hour, which I never did,

I'm watching the show. And I'm like, ooh, what's Steve doing? Woo, Gabrielle. Andrea, you know, Like, I'm seeing all the storylines happening. And it's just such a different perspective. Like, I'm a fan now of the show. If you were watching the show, who was your crush on the show? Mine was a mixture between Brandon and Luke. I mean, yeah, Brandon and Dylan. I still, to this day, would not be able to pick between Brandon and Dylan.

Yeah, it was tough. That was tough for me, too. Because Brandon had the wave, but Dylan had the Johnny Depp look. I think I would have picked Dylan. Yeah. He's too bad boy. bad boy. Everybody wants that bad boy. Yeah, he's bad. The leather jacket. It's good. No, but if he, yeah, go get my leather jacket right now. It's in my office. James Dean.

No, but I mean, imagine yourself standing in front of the two of them being forced to pick, do you pick Brandon or do you pick Dylan? What would you say in that moment? And I think Kelly was pretty, well, the writer, Jessica Klein, was pretty genius to have her say, I choose me. Like, I'm going to go with the safe bet here. I'm going to go with me. That's full circle for you with what you're doing. I mean, the whole I Choose Me movement and the brand and everything that I'm trying to do with this, it all started in 1995 on season five of, no, three. I can't remember, season five of the show.

How many seasons did it go in total? Ten. Wow. But it was all because Kelly said I choose me. And what an impact that had on me as a young adult. And now what an impact that has on me as a grown woman hearing from other women that I encounter that say, I grew up watching you. And when your character said, I choose me in that one moment, it changed everything for me. And I realize that I have a voice and I get to have my opinion in any situation.

And by the way, both the guys will like you more. At the end of the day, if you want a hot tip, they can't take it. That's all you have to do to get the guy, you guys, is you just say, I choose me. I'm going to go do what I want. You guys figure it out. Yeah. The solid advice right there. You have been around all kinds of child actresses. You've seen everyone grow up on your show.

You worked with Amanda Binds. You've seen it all. If someone who's listening wants to get into acting or they want to get their child into acting, what are things that you would caution? What are tips that you would say? There's a fine line between being like a momager and a hands-on mom, you know, if I were to do it, I would never ever let anyone take my child away from me on a set, to go into a room to rehearse, nothing. I would always be with my kid, no matter

what. And it doesn't mean I'm overbearing or I'm putting my opinion in where it isn't wanted or needed. I'm just going to be there. I'm going to be like a fly on the wall and I'm going to be there just to take care of my child. And nothing anybody would ever tell me would make me say, oh, okay, I guess you're right. I'll stay out here. while you guys do that. It really is almost that simple, what you just said. It is. It's having eyes on the situation the whole time.

Yeah, and I think a lot of times the industry, the powers that be, will make a parent feel like, you need to go sit over there with the other parents, over there in the dark on that folding chair, and just read your book while we do our work. And I wouldn't take it that way. Seeing what I've seen, knowing what I know, and it's not always that way.

I think you've done a really beautiful job of evolving and how you are as a mother, and I think you should be really proud of yourself. What does this chapter look like for you? I feel like you're stepping into your entrepreneur era. Tell us about that. Definitely. You know, just having the self-confidence for me and the courage to step out of what people expect from me and want from me into doing something that I want for myself.

and that I want for my future and my kids has been the biggest challenge that I've ever done because I do have a lot of what everybody has, which is those thoughts that I'm not good enough. Why should I be doing that? Oh, look at everybody else out there with their companies and their beautiful things and their podcasts. Like, they're doing it and they're doing it so great. Like, I'll just stay over here. I'm fine, you know.

But I had to work past that because I had to think I deserve, I've lived so. so much life and learned so much. And I have the kind of personality that I want to share that with people. And my parents were both teachers. So I think it's just in my genetic DNA to want to teach and help people to learn and grow to their full capacity because that's how I see every situation at its full capacity and every person that I encounter. Like, what's the full capacity of this person that I'm talking to? So for me to be able to move into now, you know, it's not like I'm not an actress anymore. I love acting. It's just I couldn't control when I was going to get to do that anymore, when I was going to get to pay my bills with that career. So I had to pivoting to something that

actually gives me purpose and it makes me feel good about what I'm doing instead of feeling like a pawn and somebody else's chess game, you know. It's probably very liberating. And you mentioned QVC. Can you tell us about that? Yeah. That's big. It's wild. So in 20, 2020, I think, 20, 2019, we started a company called the BFF collection for QVC. At the time, Tori Spelling, my best friend and me, started this company, Home Decor, and a beautiful Christmas collection. And it's been through my working experience with QVC that I've made a lot of relationships with them and, you know, feel very comfortable. I want to tell you the QVC family is a family you want to be a part of. It is so cool what they're doing and they shoot everything over in pencil.

And it's just a really tight-knit family. And so going there to do my on-air and experiencing that feeling and everybody's so joyous and loves what they're doing and they love their customer. And it's a family of the hosts and the customers. It's all this big world, you know. And so just kind of getting into that initially with BFF made me sort of think, I really like this. Because I feel like I'm talking to my people when I'm talking to the people that are buying the

products or wanting to know more about it, you know, because that's where I come from. And so now being able to be a part of it and now they've asked me to develop my own apparel line. And I've been doing that for the last year, just designing monthly collections that are going to drop starting in July, end of July. It's called me by Jenny Garth. And I've been doing it actually with my daughter, which has been so fun because I didn't, you know, what's the point of doing something alone when you have this amazing creative influence that right here, you know, my daughters are, they inspire me on the daily to do better and be better. So bringing my daughters into all of my jobs whenever I can I do that. But my daughter, Lola, has been helping me with the design and just everything. We're

doing the creative control over the whole thing. So it's been very rewarding. And also, it feels good because I don't feel like I am just selling people, you know, when I talk about the apparel line, I don't feel like I'm just selling them a shirt or a pants or whatever. I'm selling them the confidence to wear that. And I want them to feel like there enough inside that outfit. And I just, that's what's important to me is what's behind it all. And it's about helping people choose themselves and feel good in their own skin and feel confident because that's what we all want. That's what I want.

I can't wait to see it. I need to wear something when it comes out. You guys have to tell me. These are my pants. Look. These are our pants, I should say. Really cute. Yes.

Really cute. You know what? I would wear those too. I feel like if I wore those, I'd wear them with like a white t-shirt. You can, I feel like you can make it casual. And I like how you're wearing blue on blue. I'm all blue today, but they're really comfortable. Where can everyone find the pants you're wearing?

Where can they shop? Where can they find the podcast? Pimp your little bad. Okay. I'm so bad at this. Okay. So the line is on QVC.com, of course. We have me by Jenny Garth social.

Our Instagram is me by Jenny Garth. We have the QVC platform, of course. And then the podcast is I Choose Me, and it's by IHeart. So you can hear it wherever you hear your podcasts. I'm just really enjoying, like, sort of, for me, it feels like I'm leveling up a little bit, like I'm taking that next step in my life. And it feels really exciting and really scary, but I'm doing. Thank you so much for coming on, Jenny.

I love that episode.