The Bossticks - Jesse Solomon On The Truth About Summer House, Surviving Cancer Twice, Dating In The Public Eye, & Life In The Spotlight

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

#970: Join us as we sit down with Jesse Solomon – reality TV personality, singer-songwriter, and breakout star of Summer House. While audiences are drawn to his charm on screen, music has always been the deeper throughline in his story, leading him to launch his debut headlining Happy To Be Here Tour. In this episode, Jesse opens up about navigating life in the spotlight, overcoming testicular cancer twice, emphasizes the importance of gratitude and mental health, shares the reality of dating in the public eye, and what really happens behind the scenes of Summer House.   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TheBossticks.com   To connect with Jesse Solomon click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   This episode is sponsored by Pvolve x Lauryn Bosstick Head to http://pvolve.com/skinny and use code SKINNY for 15% off sitewide, or on class packs at a Pvolve studio near you.   This episode is sponsored by Paleovalley Head to http://paleovalley.com/skinny for 20% off your first purchase.   This episode is sponsored by Wayfair Head to http://Wayfair.com right now to shop all things home.   This episode is sponsored by Fatty15 Fatty15 is on a mission to support Healthy Aging for All, including all ages and stages of life. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to http://fatty15.com/SKINNY and using code SKINNY at checkout.   This episode is sponsored by Starbucks Learn more about Starbucks industry-leading benefits at http://Starbucks.com/partners.   This episode is sponsored by Xyzal Visit http://xyzal.com for more information.   This episode is sponsored by HERS Visit http://forhers.com/skinny to get personalized, affordable care that gets you.   This Episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential  Shop the limited edition Eden Rock x The Skinny Confidential collab at https://boutique.oetkerhotels.com and at http://shopskinnyconfidential.com. While supplies last.  Produced by Dear Media

Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostick. Together, they are the Bostics. I am a super fan of Summerhouse. I've watched every single season. I could dissect it like a cadaver on the table. I was saying like the game operation that you used to play when you were little, I will pull the funny bone out. Like I can, I love watching the human dynamics of it.

I'm obsessed. It's not just the reality TV that I wanted you on the show for. There's so many different facets of you that I find fascinating. And you just played a concert last night until what time? Well, the show went from about 9 to 10, and then I got to meet everybody after for probably almost an hour. And then we packed up all the gear, took the sprinter van back to the hotel and went to Waffle House.

And no alcohol. No booze. And I feel bad because people will buy me shots and stuff, and I'm just like, I just can't take that. So do you look at ever or like you're done no I mean I'm on a show about partying in the Hamptons like So you're just when you're doing that you're you're taking it easy yeah I just figure like it's uh I've got a lot of work to do and I want to give it my best and I'm already having trouble Giving my best performance every night with all the travel

Singing for an hour at a time like I trained a lot to get to a place where I can sing for an hour at a time Well, but it's still like with the flying, the driving, dehydration, like difficult. Yeah. When you go on this show, did you have the strategy of wanting to do music? No. I've sang my entire life. Okay. I went to music school at the University of Miami and I got, we can talk about my career path and how I got here, but I went into the show thinking, oh, maybe I'll launch like a consumer product at some point. I didn't think I would launch a music career. But it just was like the thing making me happy and what I wanted to do. I'm on a 16. We just added a show in Atlantic City 17 city tour. So what number two,

what number on the tour was this show last night? Last night was show number six and, oh damn, you're just getting into it. After this podcast, I'm so blessed to be here with you too. Thanks for having me. I'm driving to Dallas. The band is picking me up and I have a show in Dallas tonight. And are you single on this 17 city tour? My single? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so single, no attachments. None. I have a crush. You have a crush. Yeah. But here's my thing when guys say you have a crush. Let me talk to you about this. When you say that you have a crush, that could insinuate the crushes in New York or San Diego. Maybe you have 10 crushes and the crush that's listening thinks they're the crush. I'm not saying this for her. I'm just talking to you guys. You're saying because you have a

crush. Yeah, I don't think she's listening. But she's not on the show. No. No more crush is on the show. I hope this summer. This crush isn't being as reciprocated as I would like. So we'll see where it goes. The guy always ends up falling in love with the girl that doesn't like him back. Yeah, she's playing the game well. Unfortunately, I don't like to play games. You don't like to play games. No, no, no, no. I'm not like, I'm going to wait. to text back. Like, if I like you, you'll know it. And if you like me back, we'll go on dates and hopefully become something more than friends. How do you manage going on this show that is like the, I feel like you guys are like the rock star of Bravo right now?

So like you're on this show that's like everyone's watching it. And then you also have your real life and you're touring and you say you have a crush. How do you manage balancing all of that? the show is based off of our real lives. So you just kind of show up and try your best to be yourself with giant cameras in your face. So I would say that's like my main objective is don't do anything I wouldn't do in real life because I'm on Summerhouse. Obviously like you're in this microcosm and relationships happen faster. Friendships get deeper, quicker.

You're talking about really vulnerable. stuff. So it all kind of spirals quickly and like that's what creates a good show I think. But our show is based off of genuine real friendships and it's not just like a show friendship. I think you can feel if it was fake. And I think that's why what just happened was like so ground shattering like hurt everyone so bad because we had such a good thing going. And for our friends to just like betray our trust really hurt everyone not to talk about that whole situation but does that mean so like can people go back now and continue to do the show i'm like i'm i'm i'm in but i'm not as in i'm on the outside i'm watching all this now and

i'm hearing about obviously i hear about all this like can can you guys be like all right back to work or i think it's going to take time to repair the the trust that's been lost if possible It's been tough for me because I'm kind of like friends with everybody. Obviously like Sierra and Kyle are the people that deserve the sympathy here, not me. But yeah, it just like hurts deep when you get lied to by people that you're like really close friends with. When you had the epiphany of realizing that two of your best friends were hooking up behind everyone's back, was it like got punched? How did you feel? Yeah, I had been hearing the rumors for a while, so I wasn't, like, surprised, but I was kind of, like, shocked that they would lie to me.

Yeah, it was really upsetting. I mean, I was trying to explain it to my husband. And I'm like, it's like if you and I lived in a house. I love when people try to explain it. It's, like, so difficult. It's hard to explain. But I said if I was, he has a best friend named Weston. if I was having sex with Weston

and then the girl that Weston used to have sex with and date was your best friend was my best friend right did I explain it right yeah I mean it's like you have two couples they both break up two people hook up with each other and you've got these like friends that are left in the crossair crossfire Yeah. And like everybody's getting hurt for a different reason. Yeah.

Like West and Kyle were friends too. People are forgetting that. Like that was one of his buddies. Wait, the guy's name is West? Yeah. No, it's West. Oh, West. Now I'm going to get really fucking confused because I just,

because now I'm thinking about Weston, but it's West. Just don't get involved. How do you feel, and I'm sure you feel happy about how Sierra has been received by the public? Yeah, I mean. I guess that's a silver lining of this whole situation happening to her. Yeah. Sierra is a really good person and she cares a lot about her friends. And she's taught me a lot of, like, good lessons of things that, like, you just wouldn't typically think of as a boy.

So I'm just, like, grateful to her and I'm glad that everybody else sees how amazing she is. What's a lesson that she's taught you? Well, I mean, this summer, this past summer, I thought I was doing the right thing by checking with my buddy to see if he would be upset if I pursued his ex. And I didn't realize that that could make her feel objectified. She obviously means way more to me than just like somebody I would want. to hook up with and so I never meant to make her feel that way and it really hurt me to see how upset she was um i wish i had spoken to her first and obviously i was going to have a more serious conversation with her after i had talked to west about it but uh yeah she taught me a good lesson

that like you can't just be cavalier in the way that you go about dating and does this stuff get real messy just because you guys are in such close proximity and there's maybe nobody else around. Is that what happens? You're like in a fishbowl with all these cameras and you're with each other all day long. And so everybody's kind of like, oh, well, it kind of reminds if you know, when you're in school as a kid, you kind of just like date within the school because you're not out. But this is even more microscopic. Is that what happens? Yeah, I think like proximity is like a really big thing. Like you end up dating the people that you're spending time with. You end up friends with people that are close to you. You fall apart with friends that are in different states over time.

because proximity is a big factor in relationships. So yeah, if we're like going to the Hamptons and only with each other for 48 hours straight, like, you know, what's one date? You spend two hours with someone. Like that first weekend in the house, you've already slept under the same Ruth with all these hours.

Like, it's like if you hang out with somebody for a full weekend, it's like what, 10 dates? Yep. So when you go back to explain to Michael, So Jesse dated one of the girls in the house. You guys sort of. West. No, you.

Lexi. Jesse? Lexi. This is a long time ago. Yeah. You dated one of the girls in the house. Here's my question. Would you do it again in the future or is that off limits for you?

No, going back to my point about like doing what you would do in real life. Like, this is my real life. Yeah. So, yeah, I would definitely date somebody that I was attracted to on the show. I would take it way. slower. Okay. I just like didn't see. That's another lesson Sierra taught me. She's like, slow the fuck down. Yeah. And I didn't see a reason to slow down. I was like, I like this girl. She likes me. We're having a great time. You guys were cute too. Why wait? Sweet. Is the crush

Kristen Cavalieri? I mean, that's this whole separate crush. Yeah, I'm obsessed with her. Oh, okay. So that's a separate crush. But I think we're just friends. Okay. Because you guys would be cute. Totally. I'm just throwing it out there in the ether. Yeah. What do you think, Kristen? Get back to us. When all of this comes out, how is Andy Cohen involved in all of it? Is he texting you guys? Is he waiting for the reunion? What is his energy on everything that's been going on?

I think Andy feels for us. You know, the reunion was really intense. He actually sent me a nice text after the reunion because he saw like how hurt I was. And, you know, he went on and made that video being like, I've done 150 reunions. That was like one of the more intense reunions I've ever done. So, yeah, he's just like the facilitator, you know. He does watch what happens. He does the reunion. And he's not, like, entrenched in the friend group, but he sees it all.

He's like, I'm so sorry for you. This is going to be a fucking ratings juggernaut. Andy Cohen said that that was the most intense. I saw it. I saw that I'm not that under a rock. I did see that part. Reunion. That is crazy that he said it was the most intense reunion out of 150 reunions.

Yeah, I cried like a handful of times. I was crying all day. I was a mess. Carl's a mess. I was a mess. Are you crying because of how this has affected the group's dynamic? Are you crying because you don't have anyone to talk to about this very, this is a very specific niche thing that you guys are going through?

I was crying because I hadn't taken the time to deal with the emotions and the lying. And I thought that West was going to come to the reunion with something that was going to make people feel better. And that we were going to be able to walk out of there. Not turning the page, but at least having apologized and being able to move forward and like maybe West and Sierra could somehow like take another two-year path to being friends again, but it didn't feel that way. Who are the people the most upset with? This guy, West, or the woman involved?

Or both? Both. Both. Who is the audience more upset with? I mean, I think they're just pretty disgusted with both of them right now. Who should I be upset with, learn? I think it's a really hard situation. I think there's a lot of,

layers to it. I'm pissed at both. And I think also there's a lot of things that we probably don't see. So I think I'm not, I don't like to be the judge and juror. That doesn't work well. I, like, I feel like sometimes the public wants to be like judging. And the problem with that is that they don't get to see every single thing. And you could correct me if I'm wrong and be like, no, you've seen everything. But it feels like there's like more. No, I mean, there's 42 and a half minutes and we're in the house for 48 hours. Like, you don't see everything. And then there's our real lives outside of the house. So I didn't see everything with West and Amanda. And I was probably like around it the most. And so when your friends are telling you that there's nothing going on and it's easy to just believe

them. Like, oh, okay. You guys are hanging out. Could you not sense like any energy or anything? No, yeah, I could. Are you can say, looking back to it. You can tell like there was a vibe going on. Yeah. There was like a. series of events where I was like, you guys are totally fucking. And they were like, no, West is my boy. Like, and Wes is like, dude, you'd be the first person I would tell. I was like, okay. Are you afraid to go out in public with them right now? Afraid? Maybe afraid's the wrong word. Um, hesitant. I mean, as a couple. Yeah. Of course. I don't want to. It's just like unnecessary drama in my life.

Like I have this whole tour planned. I'm releasing music and this stuff all happens. And like this becomes the focus. Like Wes is supposed to come to my show in Kansas City with his family. And I'm like, I don't know. Am I supposed to tell him not to come? Like that's a guy that's been there for me. he's been a real friend. But then again, like, I don't have patience

for people who lie and hook up with exes without a conversation prior. Like, that's happened to me in the past. And so I know how it feels if, like, one of your best friends

hooks up with one of your exes. So are people giving you shit thinking that you might have known more than you did? Yeah. He picks up fast. I did not tell him that. That's not on the note card. Yeah,

that's been a whole thing that I guess I haven't really spoken about, but I kind of just ignore it because I know the truth. Yeah. But yeah, definitely like... The reason I pick up on that, I'm assuming if you guys were that close, and you know how guys are, like, guys are, you become boys or someone, so that I would assume that people like, oh, this guy must have known. Yeah.

That's probably... Yeah, there's less of that now, and I think as the reunion airs, it'll be pretty clear what I knew and didn't know. Amanda apologized to me right away after they released the statement saying, I'm sorry that we dragged you into this. Oh, because she knew you weren't as aware as people were specializing. Yeah, I mean, she knew that she lied to me. And, yeah, West didn't pick up on the fact that, like, I've been getting heat for people thinking that I knew.

But it's not a big deal. You know, what I see, can I tell you my dynamic? Hell yeah. There's a bit of a liaison fair. and a blaséiness from West that is not is what I see the cast in you not liking. It feels like instead of him coming and saying, I made a really big mistake and I was out a line and I'm sorry. There's a kind of like this like laissez-faire blazaisness that I think people are like

It's almost like a beta blocker, maybe. Like, it's not an acknowledgement of... He's not apologetic? Yeah, there's not accountability. This is what I see. I haven't seen in the reunion. Yeah. Well, he does apologize, but that's kind of like all he does.

Like, he's, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have lied. I know that now you can't believe anything that I say because I lied, but I'm sorry. But he didn't, I mean, Andy even calls him out for it. like you see your friends are like torn up about this so that's the beta like it's like almost like a detached he's detached well and he's been off social media and you know like kj read that text and he's he's said something similar to me like he didn't realize the gravity of the situation because he hasn't been seeing all the negativity online um so yeah i think i think i think you're spot on but

the problem is is like do you have to see the gravity of the public all throwing tomatoes to come with your tail between your legs and say and actually give a real genuine call you shouldn't it's a good point so i think the reunion it sounds like you're stirring the fucking pot man no no no i hear you i know you i i told you i like human dynamics and i like to watch it all and i think what the cast was wanting at the reunion was some genuine accountability and um no ego. Lauren likes to drop a grenade in the middle of the dinner table and walk away and say, oh, no, no, no, Jesse, I do this thing called prompts.

You'll love it. So when we go on vacation, we go with like the same 14 people. Not every time. You got to mix it up. It's kind of like summer house, but vacation. Sounds like a show. It's kind of a show. It's a show.

It's a fucking show. But the thing is, is I do this thing called dinner prompts. And each prompt is like something to like stir it. No, it'll be like one of our friends will be dating a brand new person or something. And they'll be like, let's go around the table and talk about your craziest sexual experience. And then you just like get to watch everybody kind of like. And the couples are probably like, that wasn't with me. She does the shit.

She does it because she wants to be entertained. No, I like, I just, well, this is why like reality television. It's like an outlet. No, I think that's a great idea. Who wants to just sit through the same dinner with 14 people every night? No, prompts are helpful. You like go through and everybody gets to kind of like do a topic like that. Yeah, we do that at Summer House.

Yeah, I mean, it's fun. So my point is... It's just not filmed for the world to judge and see. My thing with the reunion is I think they wanted some closure, some accountability, some no ego. Yeah, you'll have to watch the reunion. I mean, there's three parts. So hopefully you'll see a lot of it. I heard there's three parts.

I want to talk about the journey that you've showed. separately from Summerhouse, which is a totally different twist. You just showed yourself working with a camp that was so cool. I loved that segment. But you have been through cancer. You opened up about having testicular cancer. Why did you decide to share that with the audience? I had one of my nuts taken out.

And then a year later, it spread to the lymph nodes my stomach. and I had four rounds of chemo and went bald and the whole thing. How old were you? I was 24 the first time. How do you process that mentally when you're that age? It's got to be so terrifying. What's going through your mind to get through that period of time? Yeah, I think I felt lucky to have caught it early and the prognosis was really good for somebody

in my situation. I went for a checkup. I went to the doctor in New York. I heard my Jewish mother in the back of my head like, go get your annual physical. And I went and the doctor said, I don't think this is anything, but you should probably go get another test.

I had like a twinge of pain in my nut, but like sometimes nuts hurt randomly. So it was like I didn't think anything of it. And I was traveling around for work, and I came back. I was like, oh, I should get that test. I get the test and the hospital calls me right away. And they were like, come back. And I was like, I did like a STD panel. I did this test, whatever. And I was like, I must have chlamydia. Like my life is over. And I go back to the doctor's office. I was like, all right, doc, like, I've never had chlamydia. Like, can't believe it. He's like,

you have cancer and we're going to have to probably give you chemo and radiation and remove one of your testicles and once we remove the testicle we'll know like what's next for you and I was like where's Ashton am I getting punked right now like what is going on because I'd lived a very blessed life up until that point and I still am very blessed but nothing like that had ever happened to me I was just like you know shocked um And then you always have this voice in the back of your head that's like, what if you're one of the unlucky ones? But I had great doctors, a great support system. My family and friends were there for me.

And you just kind of look at it as like this shitty period of your life that you're going to hopefully get through. And you're going to be better for it on the other side. And that's kind of like how I feel now. And obviously a lot of people aren't as lucky as I was. But I think that's like really the only mentality you can have going into something like that is to try and be positive and do everything you can to fight it the best you can. What does that do for your perspective on life after going through something like that? Yeah, it's been great.

I would imagine. I would say that like I live every day with such joy, just happy to be alive. And that's like what my tour is called the Happy to Be Here tour. and I did start to struggle a little bit with my mental health recently because I was kind of losing that gratitude and I was like, what the fuck is wrong with me? Like, you are so lucky, you have so much, you're doing so well, you're getting to do what you love to do,

like why are you not as happy as you used to be after you had just beaten cancer? So just kind of like this weird guilt for not being as happy as I once was. But I'm really good right now. And I'm loving being on tour and like doing music. And I feel great. Like it feels like what I'm supposed to be doing. But definitely like there have been some mental battles with like the whole cancer stuff. Yeah.

I think that's probably why they call gratitude of practice. because you have to keep, I mean, and it sounds like you do, but it just feels like that makes sense that you would feel like that because if you don't practice it every day, if you miss a couple days like that, it makes sense that you would struggle with your mental health later on. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't heard that as much. Well, I mean, I think human beings do a really good job of basically forgetting the progress they make and they feel like, you know, like say that, say you try to climb, I'm just going to use

an easy reference, you climb the mountain, you get to the top of the mountain, that's what, that's what you've been working your whole life for, and then you're there. And then you take a couple steps back and like my life sucks, but you don't realize that you're still a million steps ahead of where you originally once were, but that little regression feels like misery. No, totally. You get so normalized to every step forward that you take that you have to remember. That's why people, as it relates to success and even like financial well-being, they think

that one day they're going to reach a certain amount of that and then it's going to make them happy. They don't realize like it just becomes the new norm. Yeah. And then if, and then if you, you know, say you make a million dollars, if all of a sudden in the next year you make a lot less, you feel like a loser. But it's like, don't forget you, you did that. I'm using an extreme example, but people get, you know, like they think that the number is going to solve their happiness. If you can't, if you can't be happy and grateful along the way and throughout the process, it's, it's never going to happen for you. Yeah. And I've always been really focused on making a lot of money. And, And, you know, I'm starting to make money.

But I do think that I'll look back on this period where I'm like, you know, not like super duper wealthy. I don't have like, I haven't had some exit in a business that was crazy that I'll look back on this period and be like, that was the most fun I ever had. The best advice I've ever heard about money is that money solves money problems. That's about it. Yeah. Like it won't solve internal issues. It won't solve things with your family. It won't solve the way you're great.

It'll only take care of financial burdens. And some people say, oh, if I get rid of the financial burdens, I'll be happy. But there's all the other baggage. And personally, in my life, there's been a diminishing return as you make more and more money. Like there's certain levels where if you can take care of your bills and not worry about what it's going to cost to go out to dinner and your groceries, maybe take a nice vacation. Like that has a real cascading effect. But after that, like just adding more on top of the pile.

you do get a diminishing return. It could be depressing, actually. I think the journey is like the best part, but I do think that having a family will be a really fulfilling experience and having money to do that and just like allow your kids to do whatever they want to do. That'll feel good. You're going to be a great dad. I can't wait. Yeah, you're going to be a really, really good dad. I can tell. And it seems like something you're excited about. Yeah. That's what's brought us the most joy of everything, probably becoming parents.

How many? Three. Whoa. I know. So fun. That's a lot of kids. He doesn't leave me alone. You know the best part about having kids and I think you'll like this.

You strike me as someone who'll like this. You get to basically like live the best parts of life all over again, like through their perspective. I just want to say I didn't touch on the sunrise day camp. Yes, please. Such an amazing organization. I mean, the way that the kids are just like so. happy and they just like feel like normal kids and they forget about all their problems it is it's a camp for kids who have cancer and their siblings because oftentimes siblings are like the forgotten

about child in these situations and don't get the same attention um to go to a day camp and on long island completely for free um and even once they're you know have beaten their cancer are allowed to go for until they go to college, whatever they do. And a lot of the counselors were former campers. It's just like a really great family. So I'm just grateful to them for like opening up the camp to us and being able to to show what they do. It was like in a summer filled with so much drama to be able to have that like wholesome

moment where we could like give back and show that was really awesome. You seemed really happy. in that episode. Yeah. I think things like that just put everything into perspective. And just like what we were talking about, like it makes you realize everything that you do have and how much harder it could be. So, you know, I've tried to volunteer whenever I can as much as I can.

Like I've been able to go to a hospital on tour and sing with the kids and talk to the kids. And I'm setting up more of those. So, yeah, I think. I think like it's amazing that I'm in a place where me showing up and like giving my time is like mean something to other people. Like how cool is that? Super cool. Like even though these kids might not watch Summer House like I don't know for some reason like they think I'm cool. No but see that's like the like I think that will bring you more joy and happiness than any other stuff that we've discussed is being able to like build a platform and then have other people be excited.

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I've always been pretty open about having cancer. So it wasn't something I was going to hide from my story on the show. And I thought it was going to be like a beautiful moment of like show up. You know, I'd been through four of them with no issue. So there was no reason I thought that year five I would have an issue. And then I remember two weeks before the doctor's appointment, I like felt something change on my left nut of my remaining testicle. And I was like, oh, fuck, did I just like set myself up to get cancer again on national

television? And I started really freaking out. And then I went to the doctor's appointment. And he was like, yeah, so we did the scan. Like, this is what I see. Like, what are you talking about? And he was like, oh, you have two things going on. And I was like, oh my God, like I'm totally fucked.

And then they were just like two normal things. One was like a calcium buildup. Jesus Christ. One was like a blood vessel. They were like, you're fine. Putting you through the mental. Yeah. Oh my God, man.

I think too, West was there for you the entire time that you did that. So that's like another dynamic that I think is important to the whole situation. Yeah, he's been a great friend to me. Like I know his family. I know that they're all great people, so it's just like a hard thing to grapple with. But let me ask you, I don't want to get eaten alive here on this

because I'm, again, like, give me a... Who does? I'm a novice people. But do these shows, in a way, the environments create these kind of situations and even maybe hope for these situations? So, for example, like, Lauren and I would not be good on these

because, like, we would just, we would, at this point, we would not like do we would we have three kids under six like we just wouldn't bring the craziness that we would have maybe we're in our 20s yeah but i imagine like you know the producers there the show the audience they're they want things maybe not at this extreme but they want things like this to happen is there a pressure to kind of almost perform and to how no no okay i would say that that's a great thing that i didn't know what to expect when i joined a reality tv show i don't watch a lot of reality tv i was like is this all real and you show up and

And Summer House especially, like, they don't say, hey, show up at three o'clock at this restaurant. Like, you're going to film a scene with this person. Like, we're just in this house for 48 hours. So you really let your guard down. Do you forget the cameras are there? At night, for sure. You literally forget. I mean, like, we go out, get drunk, come back, and we're, like, eating snacks with our friends.

You're like. You forget. Yeah, like, you don't, I mean, sometimes you forget, forget, but like. But you don't turn around and there's like the giant, the camera with the guy standing there. At 10 o'clock, they stop. Kyle's like, like, farting on the camera. He must forget.

Yeah. Like Kyle let this huge fart rip on the camera one. You're either too drunk or you're just like, they're just never going to use this. Like, you're just out with your friends. Like you're having a night out. Like you let your guard down. Anyways, all I want to say is that the producers

were just as upset as the public and as our friend group was when this all happened. They, you know, we had a really beautiful. thing you'll see like leaving the house the last weekend we'd never been closer and I think the thing about our show that people love is like we are genuine friends it's not just like housewives bickering the whole time it's based off of real friendships so nobody wants to see the friend group fractured like this so I would say like to this extreme no the network's not like ratings are up like the ratings were 50% higher than they ever had been before this whole thing happened.

So the show was like doing as great as it had ever done. So that's why it was like, I said to Wes, I was like, dude, if you're, if this is happening, please lock it the fuck up. Like, why? You don't need to do this. I don't care what anyone says. If somebody in the quote unquote viz, that network is tickled to death about what's going on.

The ratings are through the fucking roof. Let's say this. The network is different than the pre-unquote. producers kind of, right? It's like a different, different. If I put the quote unquote executive hat on, those guys are sitting there on that table licking their chops. They're like, this is great TV.

People are tuned in. They're on podcasts. I don't know. The health and wellness podcast is diving into the reality. This is, you know. Are we health and wellness? Well, not today. We're not.

Let's get into that. I was just going to ask you about health and wellness because I see your aura ring. Hell yeah. Tell us about your, what's Jesse's health and wellness tips? So I work out every day. Okay, lift? I eat clean. I lift probably four or five days a week.

Okay. I walk a lot. And every morning I make like this big hydration drink of like colostrum and electrolytes and a whole bunch of stuff. And yeah, I try to be healthy. Obviously, I'm like on the road right now on tour. So like I'll get some chicken tenders if that's the only thing around. and like I drink alcohol sparingly, but right now I'm not drinking. And yeah, I do some weird shit on tour.

I have like this nebulizer that like hydrates my vocal cords. I have to be on vocal rest. I'm talking a lot right now because I'm here with you guys. Sorry. What a treat. All right. But typically I'm like. But let's get the whole audience to come see you on tour.

Let's get them out. So what can we expect? And I didn't get an invite last night. That's so fucked up of me. I would have totally been like front row. Well, this is our first time meeting. So you guys are invited to everything I do for the rest of time. Love it.

We're in. I can't wait to be on this 15 person trip that we're going to go on. The 15 per. Oh, you're ready to be on the trip. Wait. Yeah, the trip is really fun. You'd be a good trip, mate. He's a great trip, man.

I can tell right away. I told you. Did I not tell. I said on the call, I said, you let me tell you something you're you are he's very you're very likable these trips are you know you're got to cast a trip well yeah you got to be real thoughtful about like you're gonna go away with someone no i know but the rock star show of bravo he knows how to cast a trip i'm sure but you know like sometimes i see people do trips with their friends and if it's not casted well like it could be

i am aware after this tour i've got so much going on that i'm going to turks and kakos i've never been, I might just go by myself. You know, I will tell you, once you have kids, you are never going to be left alone, ever. Like, they will find you. So I think taking a trip by yourself is like, let it rip. The other day, I had to go to Santa Barbara by myself for this, I was speaking of this thing. And she called me, she was like, oh, my God, are you so sad? Do you miss all?

I'm like, yeah, it's terrible. I was eating oysters and caviar. I was sitting there. I was laying there in my underpants with a fire gun. Sloppy. I was like, this is terrible. I don't know. Like, I was thinking, I was like,

this is probably the first time in six years that I've just been like by myself chilling. It's weird. Sounds nice. It was amazing. You know what, though? Having kids, I'm sure, is like being on reality television. Oh?

Similar. What? How so? Because there's a camera in your face, but it's a kid in your face. Yeah, but the thing is, you know, yeah, you have to be on. Yeah. Setting a good example.

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near you and definitely grab this kit you guys because like I said once it's gone it's gone Lauren Bostick for Peeval so where do we go from here are you going back next summer? I don't confirm things until like very last minute but there there's going to be a show this summer I would imagine and if there's a show I think I'll be on it so we need you on it yeah it's it's been such a great thing for my life. I've learned a lot about myself. I've made such great friends. It's allowed me to do music. I mean, the fact that I can hang out with my friends in the Hamptons over the summer and then get to go on tour and make music the rest of the year is like such a fun thing. Which song should we download first? Guess I'll start having a moment.

Yeah, it's all over TikTok. Everybody's singing it. I mean, at my show last night, Everybody sings the words. Yeah. Like, what a cool thing. It's so cool. And people come up to me in the meet and greet and they're like, you inspired me to leave my job and do what I'm passionate about. And I get so many messages like that, like people connecting with the lyrics. You have a great voice, man.

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. You got it like his voice. Your voice is good. I wish I could sing. I can't sing a fucking note. I could sing.

I could be a backup. Yeah, well, I wish I had you. So I call people up on stage for my, my late. a song overrated you should also check that out it's about falling in love with your best friend sounds like it could have been about you guys and the singer dropped out last minute and so i posted on my instagram i was like can anybody come sing and this amazing girl showed up and she crushed it she was so nervous i felt bad but she did a good job but she did a good job yeah who's the best friend that you filmed it could have been me oh i do a really mean disney like rendition i don't say who

i write my songs about okay but it is about someone Yeah. Yeah. I didn't just make it up. Okay. The internet can get up. I read songs about like my real life experiences. I think that you're fabulous.

I think it's so smart that you're diversifying with your tour and everything that you've got going on. Thank you. And you have to stay on summer house as a same. You have to go back on now because I have this weird thing where I like I am in and out of these shows. No, no, no. Once I meet someone, now I'm like in. So now I'm going to be like, when's it on? And I'm going to tune into every fucking episode, right?

Yeah. Well, there's a good season going on right now. You can start. Because now I feel personally, like, I feel personally vested. Almost like when you have your favorite sports team, now I'm going to be like, you know, I'm in. How can everyone go check out where you're touring? Where can they find you? Where can they say hi?

If they're single, maybe they can drop in a DM. My Instagram's. What do those DMs look like for you? Jesse Sal's. Okay. My tour is jessiesolomonmusic.com. You can buy tickets. and yeah, I'm performing in Dallas tonight.

I mean, the shows are like, a lot of them are sold out. Nice. When is this coming out? We just sold out Bowery Ballroom. It's like 550 people and the show's not for like two and a half months. Life is good. I'm so appreciative of you guys having me. Who's in your DMs?

Is there celebrities? Yeah. I wouldn't say that like celebrities are just sliding into my DMs. A lot of hotties. there's just a lot of people men women everybody's in there all different kinds

yeah flattering it's do you slide into DMs or will you I mean yeah if there's somebody

that I'm interested in I'll reply to a story you reply to story yeah but I try to get like an intro and I'm off the dating apps at this point yeah I think that's like

it's just too much yeah too much optionality. Like, I need to focus on one person. That's, that's the key. He always talks about this on the show. He's like, when you have too many options, it's overwhelming. Well, no, listen, I mean, I only hear, well, actually, I hear about it now from some minute, but most of my guy friends, they're like, they get to the point, like what you're saying, they get burnt out. It's like they can't focus and it becomes overwhelming and it becomes kind of messy and stressful. It's just like. It's like a full-time job. I don't think anyone's good with that

much. I think like it's nice to feel like you have a few options, but I think that much optionality becomes really confusing. Yeah, like I could go to a bar and there's like, you know, 50 girls there or you can go on your phone and it's like unlimited. So it's, I got to cut off the dating apps and yeah, try to like talk to one person at a time. It's like a good place to start. Lala Kent said she drops in the DMs like with this emoji. I thought that was clever. Well, she's a gorgeous woman. Put it out there.

She's single. I'm just saying like being a guy sliding into girls' DMs, if you go in with an emoji. You can't do that. Yeah, I can't do that. Fisting emoji? No, it's like people are going to have to watch YouTube. It's like I don't.

If a guy is sending this emoji. Yeah. That's just like, it's like. But I would do that. If I was single, I feel like I would go like this. Like, like chef's kiss. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Chef's kiss, yeah. Okay. Do you guys have any advice for me? Just like aside from dating and life and maybe like wellness, whatever?

Well, I actually do have advice for you and I was going to give this to you off air, but I felt really called to tell you this. Okay. And I'll say it on air. I was going to tell you off. This is really weird. We had, this is so random. We had a doctor on the show that talked about testis, test, test, Is that how you say it? Yes, testicular. You learned so much today.

Testicular. A lot of testicle. Testicular and prostate cancer. And he was someone who studied it for years and years. Super smart guy. Yeah. I'll send you his Instagram. Still does study it.

And he said that the number one thing that the prostate and test testicular cancer cells don't like is soul. I can't speak sulfurane. How do you say it? I don't know what you're trying to say. Broccoli. Well, they said that could be, well, no. But they also said like, and this is really hard to do. But, and it's, there's a million things.

I mean, as you know, there's a million things that play into this. But stress is a huge driver. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. The broccoli sprouts, though. The broccoli sprouts. I was like, you guys can give me any advice in the entire world. I'll give you this. What is it?

Broccoli sprouts. You should be eating broccoli sprouts every day, he said, especially if you're a man. I've got my dad on him. I mean, I don't know, man. You seem like you have it together, right? You've got a killer tour going on. You're on a show. You're doing well. You're healthy. I'm always get better. You need to eat broccoli sprouts. I had a call with a nutritionist this week and they put together a meal plan for me. But yeah, a lot of whole foods. Not enough sprouts, though. Broccoli sprouts. I'm going to show. He also has, there's a supplement and it has the broccoli sprout supplement. I gave it to my dad. Michael's on it. It's really good for men. I don't know why last night. I was thinking about interviewing you. I'm like, I feel called to tell you to eat. broccoli sprouts. I think like when I think about people in your line of work that do shows publicly, my only piece of advice is to what like you, I think it's really important to keep an intact

reputation that can carry you into whatever your next version of your career is. And I've seen a lot of people like they can in the world of reality, you can burn that down in the wrong way, if you're not careful. You're doing a good job. I don't know what the advice is, but it doesn't need advice there. You seem like very thoughtful. You know what I mean? Don't get canceled.

It's more of like I think people underestimate being well liked and having a strong reputation and having integrity. And like I think it's hard to come back from that stuff. The other stuff you can always recover. Everybody makes mistakes and you can say something wrong. I think you've done a good job being very sturdy throughout this whole thing. And it's very nuanced and very complicated and complex. And no one will understand unless they're in it.

So I think you're doing good. So much. Jesse. And we're coming to a show. We're coming to a show. I will be there. Come to L.A. playing the Trubador.

You got to give me the list. Oh, Trude was an iconic place. Yeah. Justin Bieber just played there. Wormed it up for me. That's really cool, man. Nice. It was nice of him to do that for you.

Yeah. I'm releasing another song called Wildfire towards like the end of May. That's like a big pop anthem. Do you write your songs? I do, yeah. I'm not big enough where people are like coming to me with songs.

I put it out there. Yeah, but listen, if you can write your own songs, as you know, like that's where the real, write your own songs. Yeah, I've got like ideas in my head all day. I just recorded the song on the airplane and a voice memo. How'd you do? You just like, like whispered it? Yeah.

I was like, I hope nobody can hear me. But it's actually like a really good idea I'm excited about. It's cool. It's cool to write your own songs and then be able to perform it and you're on tour. I mean, I see big things. I'm excited. Congratulations. Don't forget about us along the way, man.

How could I forget about you guys? Eat your broccoli sprouts.