The Bossticks - Jodie Sweetin On Addiction, Full House Childhood Fame, Embracing Her Authentic Self

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I did watch Full House a little bit. Lauren was like a suit. I think she was in my clubs and stuff. Guys. But for my knowledge, what ages were. you, like what age were you, when you started to when you finished? I started when I was five and I was 13 when it ended. Did you, it was eight years?
Starting point is 00:00:39 You would beg your parents to get you into acting at five? I actually got into acting at like four. I was doing commercials. So I was like a really bright kid. I read super early like three and a half. I loved performing. I love dancing. Anything I could do singing, whatever.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Like I would just do it in front of my parents, my grandma. whoever would pay attention. I would tell my parents I wanted to be a modeler, which was what I called people on TV. And so my mom was like, oh, you know, we live down in Orange County, no connection to the business. Like my parents are very sort of, you know, blue collar, middle clat. Like just there was no connection to the business.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And so I started doing commercials. Well, I started doing like print stuff, just, you know, like pictures, whatever, Sears ads, something like that. and then started doing commercials and I did my Oscar Meyer hot dog commercial was my first commercial. I also did a sizzler commercial with the All You Can Eat Shrimp, which was a lot. And then went into Full House. Like I got a guest appearance on Valerie, which was the show with Valerie and her kids. Valerie, no, not the Hogan family.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Oh my gosh, I can't think. Anyway, I did an episode of that, same producers as Full House, and I just got cast on the show from doing that. never auditioned. I didn't, they saw what I did on my guest appearance and they were like, that's who we want for seven. And then at five, did you even understand the gravity of being on a show that was so intense and famous? Well, the show was not intense and famous. When I was five. Yeah, we were, we barely got a first season. We had the first 13 and that we had shot. And, you know, after the pilot, we were like, are we going to get a back end? Like, back in the day. day when, you know, a season was 26 episodes on a network. And, you know, it was like,
Starting point is 00:02:35 are we going to get the back 13? Are we going to get the back 13? And we did, but it was still kind of struggling along. And, you know, the critics were like, it's a cheesy family show. We were like, yeah, that's the point. And then around like mid-second season, we really started finding our audience. And from then on, like, we were an audience hit. The critics never always, you know, sort of trashed it, but the audience loved it. I think what you were selling, if I look back on my own childhood, watching it was hope. It's like, there's like a family unit there.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I think a lot of people I can imagine that came from broken homes would be like, eh, like this is something I really want to watch because it made them feel good, right? Yeah, it's true. I can't tell you how many people have come up to me throughout the years and said, you know, I was raised by my aunt or, you know, my parents are gay, or, you know, all of these different family structures, how many times people have come up to me and said, Full House, let me know that it was okay to have a family
Starting point is 00:03:39 that might not be your blood relatives or that might look a little different from everybody else. Like, the show taught people, that's okay. It's about love. It's about family. It's about supporting each other. It doesn't matter what it looks like, you know? And I always thought that was a really great message.
Starting point is 00:03:56 On set, was it the same vibes? Like, it seems like you guys are all very close. I've read a lot of your memoirs and autobiographies, all you guys. And it seems like there's a closeness. Yeah, we're ridiculously close. We have spent a lot of time together over the years. God, it's been like almost 40 years now than I've known these people. It's crazy to think about.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I think it was just the 38th anniversary of the airing of Full House. And so, yeah, it's wild to think about. But, yeah, we were so close. So much of a family just really from the beginning. And a lot of that came from our producers who Jeff Franklin was wonderful with us kids. He did not have kids of his own. So he was very much like moms, whatever you got. You know, like he really respected us as kids and didn't overwork us, didn't push us.
Starting point is 00:04:47 And, you know, then the family of cast that we got, like we got these really amazing adults, John, Bob, Dave, who are family guys. You know, at the end of the day, they all wound up having kids, but they come from bigger families, and they shared that with us. You know, it wasn't ever a separation of like, oh, there's the kids and they're sort of on the side. You know, it was very much we were a cohesive bunch. A lot of the shows, like it feels like they are exploiting the kids, but with Full House, it never felt like that as a viewer. I don't even know how to explain it. No, it's funny, too, because John's been on this show and he described it in the same way, but from like a reverse side, like almost as like a, like, a, like, a. more of like a father, uncle.
Starting point is 00:05:27 He was like, he was protective of the kids. They all were, like, and that was the thing that really made a difference. We were in an environment where the kids' welfare came first. It was, we were important. And our studio teacher, Adrielaider, who was also the social worker on set, like, she was always there for us and just, I mean, she, I still talk to her to this day. You know, it's really amazing how we all sort of joined together. But I was very fortunate that in all of my experience, I've never worked on a set with people that I don't like.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I've never worked in an environment where I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to lose my mind. I hate working with these people. Like, from the beginning, I have had an incredibly positive experience of being in this business. So I count myself as very lucky because I know a lot of the Disney shows, a lot of the Nickelodeon shows. Like it was a lot different because the kids were really more of a commodity. Yeah. And in some cases, it's exploited. Yeah, they were much more, I think, seen as like just things that were making someone money.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And at the end of the day, that's all most actors are, but are, we never felt like that. It never, you know, they would let us go. I went to school in the morning, like regular school in the morning and worked in the afternoon. And they would like schedule around important events so that we could go to them. What was, I guess, if you're looking back now, and maybe it felt normal to you, but for people listening, what felt like, or what was a normal childhood experience versus an abnormal? I mean, it's probably true. I don't know what a normal childhood experience is. I didn't have, from the time I was like four years old, I didn't, I don't know what anonymity is. I don't know what it is to go in the world and not have people recognize you or know you or pay attention to you. So weird. That's such a trip that you don't have like the contrast. Like you don't. don't know what the difference is. Right. People like, what do you know, what's it like growing? I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:26 I don't know. What was it like being normal? Like, you're just like, I don't know. It was just growing up. Like, it's just what I did. And I loved it so much and I had so much fun. As a kid, I was like, this is awesome. Like, I get to travel sometimes. I get to work with all these fun people. Like, it was incredible. And, you know, and of course, as it goes on and you get to be more closer to your teenage years, you're like, oh my God, this is so embarrassing. I can't believe, you know, mortified because kids are cruel. You should have came to my school. Girl, let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It would have been the same. You should have came to my school. I thought, I told you this off air. I was literally the vice president of the Jody Sweden fan club. And this is before, like, this is when computers are. Oh, right, right. It wasn't like how it is. This was the dial up.
Starting point is 00:08:14 This was somebody can't be on the phone. What did you do in the fan club? I snuck on my dad's computer. Fine artist. This is like this is the kind of like the kind of vibes that were up. What's that other clip art? Oh, oh, yes, yes, right. And I typed in your name in it wasn't, it wasn't Safari.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It was some search. I don't even remember. It's probably AOL. Something weird. And I typed in your name and up came your fan club. And I, I, it was like a chat room about how much everyone loved you. And we would just chat in the chat room. Who knows who you were chatting with in there?
Starting point is 00:08:44 This is before the time that you could connect on a platform about it. It was like chat rooms. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone was like, they were like dissecting the show episodes or what you were wearing or what your outfit was. Like, it was really funny. The younger people listening, they like have no idea what a chat room is. They're like, what's that?
Starting point is 00:09:01 Is it on like Discord or Twitter? Yeah, you're like, no. It was on something weird. I don't remember. My dad doesn't know that story. I'm sure he'll be thrilled that I stuck on his computer. Well, I mean, you didn't download any malware that you know of. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:12 This is before dickpicks. So I think we're okay. Yeah, yeah, you're totally fine. As you grew more and more famous and became more and more well known, how did you? your parents deal with that with you? Because you mentioned that they weren't in the industry. I mean, you know, my parents were like, they always encouraged me to do well in school, to have normal friends. Most of the friends that I invited to my birthday parties were like kids I went to public school with. You know, I, my parents really made sure that I lived a quote unquote normal life
Starting point is 00:09:45 when I could go on vacation, just have time to like be a kid. But, you know, I, you know, know, it's weird as you get more well-known. And especially as a kid, you all of a sudden feel incredibly self-conscious. You're like, oh, everyone's looking at me. You know, talking like, I actually ran into somebody who I went to middle school with recently who said, oh, my God, my kid was so afraid to go to middle school. And I told them the story about how hard it was for you the first day. And I was like, wow, 30-some odd years later. But it was, I showed up to school and I couldn't walk to class without everybody following. So then I had to get escorted by the principal and that's really what you want to do in middle school.
Starting point is 00:10:27 You know, so it was like all of these things that the experience that I had was amazing. But it was really, I think there were times that it was hard and hard for my parents because they don't, they don't know how to handle this. You know, handling your kid being famous, but I think for them making sure that there was like very clear boundaries of normal kid time. not work and then go to work and still have fun, but like, have a life outside. When that happened in middle school, did you want to stop the show, or were you still committed to doing it? Oh, no, I was still committed to doing it. I never, I never wanted to not do what I was doing. I just wished that everyone knew that I didn't give a shit about it and neither should they.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But it's like not a big deal, so can we not make it a big deal? Like, that's why I never watched the show. I'm like, I don't, whatever, it's just my job. like it's what I do. I don't consider myself famous. It's weird. Like I'm not that person. No, it makes sense because you're just, from your perspective,
Starting point is 00:11:28 you're just a normal everyday person. It's your profession and you do things. And yeah, I think, I mean, like doing something like this and working with talent is like, most of the people that you meet
Starting point is 00:11:37 and you get, you get kind of jaded to the kinds of people that you talk to. Not that you're not impressed, but you realize people are just people. That's the thing is I never, like, it was never, I was never starstruck or like,
Starting point is 00:11:47 like, because it was just like, oh, whatever, yeah, they do the same thing. You know, it, and I just, people are people regardless of, you know, what they do. And I guess when I was younger, that was really the only thing that I wished is that people would give me a chance to just get to know me and that, you know, I wasn't suck up. I didn't think I was better than everybody. I, you know, I was just one and a half friends too. And like, if we could just all make it not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Did it ever become not a big deal? Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, the first couple months at a new school were always a challenge, particularly as I got older. But I will say I was in the same school for like fourth through sixth grade. So that was easy, public school. By the time like fourth grade was, you know, a couple months of that was over, they were like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And then they just made fun of me, you know, as normal kids do. And then I went to middle school, my first year middle school with a lot of those kids like seventh grade and then eighth grade moved to a different school and that was where that like crowd of people were and it was a whole thing and happened the same thing in seventh grade you know I would change schools and people would they'd either love you or hate you so it was you know one or the other but then by the time I was in high school everyone was like whatever we know her it's not a big deal and I went to a performing arts high school within my regular high school So there were other kids that were in the business or that, you know, did musicals and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:13:19 So it was a little bit more understood amongst some of my peers. But yeah, by that time, I had kind of just become the normal kid. And when the show ends, are you like static or is it an identity crisis? What do you feel like? Oh, it was a total identity crisis. No, I was heartbroken. I didn't want it to end. You didn't want it to end at all.
Starting point is 00:13:39 No. And I loved doing it. It was home. was everything I knew. It was everyone I knew. It was my entire existence up until that point. You know, it was my schedule. How often were you guys filming when you, when it was going? We would film three weeks on, one week off. And we had, by the time we came around to, I think the third season, we had four day work weeks. So it was Tuesday through Friday, three weeks on, one week off. And then you had usually like a hiatus somewhere in the middle. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:07 you were shooting nine and a half months out of the year when you had a network show. Because you had like 24, 1426 episodes? Like, did you want to keep the... Absolutely. I wanted to keep acting. I wanted to keep auditioning. And it was hard because I would walk into a room and, you know, even casting directors would be like, oh my God, I love you on Full House. Okay, you have to say it. Just say how rude. And you'd be like in there for some, you know, audition that requires you to be like really raw or emotional. And then they were like, okay, sorry. Okay, go on. And you're like, well, I, it's, I don't know what to do now, you know. And so it was really hard.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Like it's, and I think still people see you as one thing. And in some ways, they only want you to be that one thing because it's easier for them. But yeah, I love what I do. I love performing. I love acting. I love theater. I love singing. All of it.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Is that one of the downsides of doing like a network TV? Because the same thing with John is you do it so often so long that you get that typecast. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we even see, we saw it really happen with the Friends cast. Now, granted, they were making a million dollars in episode. bless. But it was very hard for some of them because the show was so
Starting point is 00:15:16 successful to be seen as anything other than those characters. Like it does it's a blessing and a curse. It's a great thing while you're in it. But then afterwards, you have to hope that other people are willing to give you a chance to do something different.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You know? Frankie Munez just was in I think Us Weekly and he said the exact same thing. He's like, it's so amazing that I was on this hit show and I loved it so much. But the transition out of it. And he went, I think he went on to be a... He's a race car driver and stuff. I did a show with him in Ireland for like three days. We did a name that tune, which they were shooting over there, random. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And he's a lovely human. He wants to go back into acting now too. And it's like, I think that, in my opinion, the public has become more open to people wanting to be multifaceted. I think when you were growing up, like it's probably hard because it does seem like they want to put you in a box and label it. For sure. For sure. And it's still, I think now, I mean, now that I'm a little bit older and even coming back and doing Fuller and then kind of coming back from that, I think people, yes, it was the sitcom and it was the Tanners and all that continuation. But I think people saw me like a little bit differently than that. And, you know, doing like stand-up comedy and stuff like that too, I think is people are starting to see me as something a little bit more than Stephanie Tanner. The other day I saw you, and this might have been in the same magazine, you declared that it was potato day. Oh.
Starting point is 00:16:43 What? Why? I'm obsessed with this. Can you tell us what a potato day? Potato day. Sometimes you just need a potato day. And I am a person who is going all the time. Like I'm doing 3,000 things at once, but I never give myself credit for doing it. I'm always like, you could be doing more. You should be doing more. You're lazy.
Starting point is 00:17:05 you know, all the stuff. So I would try and, like, cram everything in and just be busy all day. And then what I realized is is that some days, you just need to literally be a potato. Yeah, I do, Michael. Okay. You just need to, I don't. Michael, that means no questions. Yeah, no questions.
Starting point is 00:17:21 For some reason I was going to food route. Yeah, no, well, he woke up this morning and handed me a four-month-old screaming baby with no bottle. That's how he woke me out. I was going to make the bottle. I know, but I've had two kids. So I, I, that is a, an experience. That's not a potato day. Well, we, no, no.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And the potato days become ever more important when you do have kids because, even when they get older, you're like, you know, I'm constantly driving this one here and this one over here and, you know, all of this stuff. Some days I'm like, don't talk to me. Don't do anything. Don't ask me a question. You have that every morning. Don't make me make a decision. Pick what food we're going to, like, just let me watch whatever the hell I want or scroll on my phone all day.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Agreed. Like, I'm not going to take a shower and I just want to be left alone. Do you hear that? Yeah. I've been trying to teach him this for a hundred years. You do a lot of potato days now that it's being described to me. Wow. I don't do a potato.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You don't even lie. The second I potato, he's like, Lauren, like, you will not let me potatoes. See, I don't let myself potato. So, like, that's why I will declare potato days. I call it marinating. Same thing. It's like you marinating. It's like you marinating makes me feel more like I need to take a shower.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah. Because I definitely don't on potato days. And marinating, I feel like I'm, I don't know, marinating my own. I'm not the biggest shower person. I feel you. And I think girls are this way. My husband is this, he's like, what? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Because I'm like a two-shower day kind of person. That's him. So he is that way. But I think it's because it is an ordeal for us to shower. It's an ordeal. You're getting your hair wet, your makeup's coming off. You might have to shave your legs. If it's in everything shower, forget it.
Starting point is 00:19:06 You're in their 25 minutes. But like it's just a, oh, God, now you don't dry my hair and the thing. I don't want to. I don't want to. Guys, in and out, you're done. Yeah, it's quick. Yeah. I could shower quickly.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I'd be like, it's great. It's called a horror shower where you. Oh, yeah, a horse bath. Take the bath. The bathtub and you just do your pits and your bits. Yeah, yeah. And you just get out. Like, I just can't be bothered every single day to do a full shower.
Starting point is 00:19:30 You can also up the horse baths though, too. he's like you could just you could just be a little cleaner yeah no I mean I don't care what you gotta spray yourself here's what I will say that doesn't stop you my husband and now after we've been together
Starting point is 00:19:48 eight years there will be times that after like two days he'll be like God I need to take a shower and I'm like wait you didn't take a shower today he's like no not yesterday either I'm like oh my god you've come to the dark side you've never done that in your entire life I feel like your personality is
Starting point is 00:20:03 My Japanese grandmother would be spinning in her grave if I did that shower. Let me tell you, I love to be clean. But some days, I just don't have the energy. The dopamine to get through showering. Like I have ADHD and some days I've just gassed out. It's not happening. It's hard to do something every single day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Oh, every single. I am a commitment phobe to everything. I can't do anything every single day. If you would have led with this in the chat room, you would have maybe got Jordy's attention back there. I know. I tried. I never even went in those.
Starting point is 00:20:32 I think that's better though I should probably be a good yeah not that there was anything bad it's just better no I once I was older I did make the mistake
Starting point is 00:20:41 of going into chat rooms in like my older teenage years and I was like oh god this was horrible but yeah when I was young I didn't really Was the internet like it is now
Starting point is 00:20:50 back then where people There wasn't an internet When I was a kid But would people like criticize you guys online Or you didn't have to deal with that Because now I mean people would criticize
Starting point is 00:20:58 This luckily again Being a kid You did have a little bit of safety. But, you know, I think I was eight, nine, I think it was about nine years old when Star Magazine made up a whole story and put it in the magazine that the Bob Sagitt was trying to get me fired, that I was a problem on set, that I was running around all over the place and not, didn't know my lines, which was the most hysterical part because, one, I was so close to Bob at the time because
Starting point is 00:21:27 he had two daughters at that time that were very close to my age. I would go spend weekends at his house with his family. He would make us blueberry pancakes and we'd all sit in bed and watch cartoons. Like, Bob was not trying to get me fired. Bob and John will tell you this, I knew everyone's lines. Like mine and if they screwed up, I'd be like, here's your line. Because I just would remember it all. So like this complete bullshit, this whole thing about a nine-year-old kid.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And that hurt me so bad that into my career in my third. I refused to do. And every time they would ask, I'd be like, no. Good for you. That's standing your ground. So it was more like, it was more of those publications that would write these weird. It was, it was inquirer. It was the bullshit, you know, the rags sort of magazine.
Starting point is 00:22:17 But as a kid, you take that in as like, who is it that said this? Who doesn't like me here? I'm not safe in a place that I didn't think had any. that was going to go outside and say anything. You know what I mean? Like it just... You were literally having hit pieces written on you at nine years old. And people that, you know, listen, I've had my fair share myself.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Oh, yeah. Yeah. As an adult, you're like, suck it. But it's one thing when you have strangers commenting on things is like kind of, but it's a different thing when there's an actual publication and business that is, quote, quote, respected writing it, especially at that age. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 It was, like, stuff like that was really weird. It was just weird and hard. And it was always weird because I'm like, why are you who does who's just making up stories about people like i mean even now when people like i just making up entire things i'm like i need to get a hobby or something like it's just it blows my mind the amount of you know that the criticism and you know hate that has always existed for anyone in the entertainment business but to go for a nine-year-old is pretty rough it's usually this is my theory of
Starting point is 00:23:31 deducted. It's usually two things. They either want to be acknowledged by the person, so they say a zinger to get acknowledgement, and then they'll immediately backpedal and apologize, or it's projection. So like, for sure. Like, you know, saying something about the way you look or whatever, and they're projecting their own insecurity onto you. Now I don't care about the comments. I really don't go on social media as much. Like, I'll post and leave. I'm like, I don't want it. It's a mess. But recently, I was, I posted a picture where I thought I looked really cute. And one of the first comments that I saw was, oh my God, what's going on with her eyebrows?
Starting point is 00:24:08 And so then I was like, well, shit, what is going on with my eyebrows? And I looked and I was like, there's just not really there. That's all. I don't have, you have great eyebrows. It's what reminded me. I'm going to give you some brow peptide. But I literally like, I don't need it, but I'm just saying. Oh, no, I do.
Starting point is 00:24:23 This is this is microblading, honey. There is like four hairs doing the job of hair. So, but then do you spiral when someone says that? Or you just, no. But it. Literally, every time I'm doing my eyebrows now in the mirror, I'm like, oh, my God, what's wrong with your eyebrows? Like, it just has a joke almost in my head. It's funny to me now. Now I have a very thick skin, and I'm like, I don't care. I don't know you. Why does your opinion matter? It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. And so, yeah, I just, it doesn't affect me the way it used to.
Starting point is 00:24:53 What if you saw that person and they had no eyebrows? Right? I'd be like, oh. Yeah. Glass house. Stones, my friend. Yeah. Yeah. I take a picture with him and be like, oh my God, look at their eyebrows. You just have to, I think that's good, to just ignore it and to not read it. No, I don't read it.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I ignore it. I mean, you know what? Look, I have been very public about addiction and about, you know, multiple divorces and all kinds of things. You know, at this point, I think having all your. your secrets out there, quote unquote, and like feeling like there's nothing that anyone could hold over you anymore, it's, that's freeing. I'm like, what do you, okay, what are you going to say? I've, I've lived through 43 years of some real serious bullshit at times. Like, okay, let's keep going. It's liberating, I think. Yeah. I also think, like, as a fan of the show, that's one of the things
Starting point is 00:25:52 that I loved about you so much was it was refreshing to have someone tell the truth, because a lot of people go through a lot of stuff in private and they don't air it out. And I love that, you you were so honest in everything you do. I feel like you're honest on your podcast, on social media and your book. It's like what you see is what you get. Yeah, that's very much, very much me. And I will say, you know, funny that you mentioned that because I probably wouldn't have been as public about my addiction, but back to the tabloids, someone who worked there
Starting point is 00:26:21 sold out that I was there and had someone come and like take pictures and all kinds of stuff. So it was really a moment of like, okay. Yeah. Of like, okay, it's out there. It's out there. And, you know, it wasn't doing glamorous drugs. And of course they, I mean, it was doing all the drugs, but of course they focus on like the worst, most salacious thing. And so at that time, I was like, well, I can either hide from this and, like, hang my head and be mortified. Or I can just say, yeah, I fucked up. I had a really hard time. And like, this is what happened and like, oh, well, that's life. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Like, that's what happens. Like, other people go through stuff. We all go through stuff. It's not, doesn't have to be so shameful. I think getting rid of, like, shame and stigma around addiction and mental health. And, you know, so many things in the past few years, even, we've seen, it just becomes so much easier to talk about. And it's not as, like, it doesn't rack you with fear of what are people, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:27:28 what if this happens? You know, your secrets are out. Everyone, everyone, it's when someone comes out that's so strong and brave that you admire and just is honest about it to me, it's like, it's refreshing. It's like, it's like, it's like, oh, I've experiences, you've experienced, like, it's nice. We've talked to a lot of people on the show over the years in the realm of addiction of addiction. And what we say every time is whether you are somebody that's personally touched by, you know somebody in your family or a friend that is. Everybody is affected by it. Everybody. And particularly now,
Starting point is 00:28:00 Everyone has someone in their life, most likely that is struggling with addiction or, you know, whether it's known or not known to them. You know, there's life is hard. Life is, it's confusing. It's messy. You know, again, I've been divorced a bunch of times. Like, I could hide from that and be like, oh, my God, I can't believe it. I put it in my stand-up act. Like, you know what I mean? Like, let's take the air out of it. Like, let's make it funny. laugh at yourself. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online, whether you're just starting out or managing a growing brand. Squarespace makes it easy to create a
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Starting point is 00:34:32 I make fun of myself. I make fun of stuff. I get up on stage and I'm like, okay, let's get three things out of the way. How rude. No, I don't talk to the Olson twins a lot and yes I miss Bob. Okay. Now that, you know, get down to business and now let's get to the funny shit. Those are the three things that you could ask. All the time. That's why I just am like, let's just cover this now. Yeah, yeah. Say how rude.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Right. Like, you know, do you talk to the Olson twins and like, you know, I'm so sorry, like, you must miss Bob a lot. And I'm like, yep, all three of those check. Now I can go on. But like I say in a funny way and people laugh because everyone in the room is thinking it. Like, everyone in the room is like, I wonder she's going to say it. Interact. So I'm like, let me just do it and get it out of the way. For you in the realm of addiction, was this like something that happened slowly over a period of time or one day you got introduced and it was like quick? Well, the first time I ever drank, I was like 14, 13, 14, and it was at Candace's wedding. And I was just a blackout drinker. I went, the last thing I remember doing, I think is somewhere around the M of a YMCA, and then I don't remember anything from the rest of the night. And it was awful and it was ugly, and it was embarrassing, and my mother was horrified. Did people know you were drinking or was just like you're sneaking off with the kid?
Starting point is 00:35:49 Oh, no, no, no. I was at the table and I was drinking. and you know it was like I was across the room from my mom so they would pour a glass of wine and I'd be like and then they'd get around right then they'd get around to pouring more and I was like I'll take a little more please like a idiot 13 14 year old you know it was a lot of red wine and the bathroom was very white oh not a good mix anyway at that moment it I was horrified the next day and I felt awful but I it like clicked something in there where I was like oh that was fun you didn't give a shit about anything. Like you just, you'll remember it. And, you know, it's not like I realized that that was sort of the fix-all. I mean, a lot of it was just dumb teenage stuff. But I definitely knew at an early age, I'd say around 1516, I knew that I drank and partied in a way that my friends did not. And that, you know, they were like, what, bro, settle down. And I would be like, okay, well, now I got to go find somebody that I can do these drugs with. Or, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:51 It was like finding different people that didn't make you feel so bad about what you were doing. I mean, I can imagine if I was on TV at your age, it's like you get dopamine in a way that like the normal person doesn't. Right. It makes to me, like it makes sense that as you get out of that, you would keep chasing it. I understand. For sure. I mean. And I like I didn't realize also, you know, I got diagnosed with ADHD later in life and it's, I'm a nightmare with it.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And when I was on set, that was my hyper focus. So I could remember every line and do everything. And even now when I'm on set, like, I'm paying attention to everything. Where are my keys? Where is my phone? Like, that's my life. And on growing up, you know, I had this sort of hybrid environment. And then when that was lost, at 13, it was like, who am I?
Starting point is 00:37:47 What do I do? My schedule? My busy, my going. my thing that kept my brain busy, that stimulated me, that I loved, that was my hyperfocus. Now I'm just all over the place, you know, and I always say like that was why I think I found stimulants because, and I would be more sober than anyone else in the room. And now I'm like, oh, I was just, I was looking for a way to make my brain work better. When did you find out you had ADHD?
Starting point is 00:38:16 four or five years ago when both of my daughters were struggling with it. And, you know, there's all these forms you got to fill out. And I'm filling it out for them. And I realize, oh, as a child, I would have scored myself higher on these things than I'm scoring them. And even now, I would score higher, you know, oh, this is really bad. And I was like, oh, wait, this is all ADHD. Like, it really explained a lot of things in my life. We just recently had busy Phillips on the show.
Starting point is 00:38:45 when she was talking about ADHD, because I think she struggles with the same thing. She said almost the exact same thing. She was working with her kids. Yeah, same thing. And I will say that is a really common story among women, among moms, because we show ADHD differently. We're not the hyperactive jumping around,
Starting point is 00:39:05 can't sit still like boys are necessarily. We are talkative in class. We're passing notes. We are not staying on task. Our rooms are messy. it's because we like all the clothes. You know, all of these things that, like,
Starting point is 00:39:18 we just aren't good at, but it doesn't look like what people think ADHD is or ADD is. When you say hyper-focused, does ADHD mean that the thing that is, like, most important to you can nail that and stay completely focused on that, but everything else just. So people, and my really good friend who is a therapist, wants to write a book,
Starting point is 00:39:38 is writing a book on ADHD, and particularly later diagnosis in women. But, you know, what she says is, is it's not attention deficit. You have so much attention that you're paying attention to everything. So like,
Starting point is 00:39:53 but you can't make a decision on what to focus on the most. So you're just kind of bouncing around everywhere. You're like, oh, I'm going to look at this. Oh, wait, that reminds me I got to go over here. I mean, I will have seven tasks half done in my house because I'm moving from thing to thing, you know, where you're like, oh, wait, how did I get to go?
Starting point is 00:40:14 cleaning out the linen closet. I started making coffee. Oh my God, and like, start organizing the scrapbook. My husband every day finds my coffee in the microwave from like,
Starting point is 00:40:27 he's like, you go? You have had a scrapbook on our dining table for how long now? What's going on with that? I'm sweating because this is like, no, but here's the thing is the hyperfocus is,
Starting point is 00:40:35 it's the thing that for whatever reason in that moment is giving you the dopamine. So if I'm on set, oh, I'm alive. I love it. Everything is, I'm getting all of the dopamine, so I'm able to do all the things.
Starting point is 00:40:49 So if somebody gave you a script or a bunch of lines to remember, how long would it take you to do that compared to what the other cast members would do? I mean, now that I'm old and perimenopausal, my brain seems to be going, it takes a little longer. But no, what memorizing for me is really easy. You know, I joke, but it's pretty good at remembering lines, and they may not be, you know, exact word for focus on it. Because it's what I let.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So I'm like, words are my thing. I read obsessively even now. I did as a kid that was, I would go to the library and check out, you know, 10 books at a time and spend hours in the bookstore. I was kind of a nerd. But words are my thing. So, and performing is my thing. So like those two things together, oh, it's great.
Starting point is 00:41:33 You know, I love it. But like, ask me to make some appointments and phone calls. And it's going to probably take a good 10 to 14 business days. because it just feels overwhelming and I'm like oh God I've got it what if they're on and what if they ask a question and then you just avoid it and then it just goes away
Starting point is 00:41:53 and then you think about it and you beat yourself up over it and it doesn't get down and it you know that's sort of the cycle of but it sounds like if you manage it the right way it could be like a superpower it is and that's what a lot of people talk about now is that really it's and you know kids that are struggling in school it's because we force this really linear
Starting point is 00:42:11 way of thinking on people who are neurodivergent with ADHD who you'll most of the people you meet in creative you know sectors of the world are have it have some sort of neurodivergency because it does give you like the ability to see things maybe that other people don't see or to look 10 steps ahead or to try something that nobody else would try because you are willing to take risks you know people do get, if I, a lot of the things I've like realized I need to get tested for this. It seems like people around you, they get frustrated because they don't understand how yeah. You can be like a high performer in one area, but then you can feel overwhelmed. Right. You're like, it's the,
Starting point is 00:42:57 it's the executive dysfunction is what it's called. And it basically is like, it's the menial tasks. It's the tasks that you're not getting dopamine, showering, brushing your teeth, making appointments. I do brush my teeth, but that's because I'm on my vibran. right but like stuff like that that you're like I so you know or being on time or you know all of that my husband lives in a house of three women who are all neurodivergent ADHD and he is one of those people that if you say you're leaving at six you're leaving at six oh if I say I'm leaving at six I'm like look it could be anywhere from like 545 to 620 you know I mean there's a it's a window but No. And that's like how it's hard. It's really interesting when I realize how much my how
Starting point is 00:43:49 differently my brain works than some people. So I have a question then for you in a different lane knowing that about yourself. What is the best way to interact with someone with 80? Like say you don't have it and you want to be on top. Are you taking notes? Well, I'm wondering now how you like what would if you did want to be out the door at six but you know you how like how do you make a very specific like agreement. Okay, we're leaving the house at 6 o'clock. I'm going to be ready by 545, which means, and then you've got to really do the work, back it up, and give yourself 20 minutes of cushion time.
Starting point is 00:44:19 20 minutes of, I don't like my outfit, 20 minutes of, I messed up my makeup, you know, whatever. Build that into being. But your husband has to do that? No, I'm pretty good now at being like, oh, okay, I'm going to do that. But my kids are terrible at it. I do think over the years and being in the business and having to be on time, Like, I'm on time. But man, do I push it.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I will know if it takes me 12 and a half minutes to get somewhere, I am not leaving any earlier than that. Like, and my husband is one of those, you know, early as on time people. And I'm like, no, no, no, we're skating in at the time, but I'm here. I think it's because you give yourself 20 minutes, but then you get distracted. You're like, that's exactly what it is. Oh, I need to clean the window. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:45:06 20 minutes. Oh, I didn't sharpen these pensions, whatever it is. It is interesting to sometimes watch her do some of the things that she thinks she can get done in an absolutely unrealistic period of time. I swear to God, I will get in the cold plunge. If I have to be somewhere at 845, I will get in the cold plunge at 830. But here's the thing is that like in the moment that you're like, I can totally do this. In three minutes, I can get out. Right, right, I got it.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I'm in the car at 10 minutes to get there. We'll have to go and pack all the kids and the whole family to go like a week long trip. And I'm like my stuff's done the day before. It's an hour before the flight, and she's not, and it's unbelievable to me. Oh, so packing, I actually, I love organizing. And I think it is because my brain feels so scattered that I really like things to be organized. So when I pack, I have my little packing cubes and all this stuff. But it takes me forever going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I overpack because I can't make a decision. you know, things like this that are like, it's, I get decision fatigue where after a while I'm like, I don't even, I don't know what I want to bring. I just, this is too much. I can't handle it. I don't want to choose anything anymore. But it takes me a while to pack. I do it the day before, because of course, who wants to do things early, wait until that last minute, but it will take me like two and a half hours to pack. He has a bullet pointed list with things that he checks off every vacation. I saw you there day. looking at your phone going like that.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I do that now because I forget stuff. And it keeps me on task. And it keeps me on task and it feels so nice to check things off. Like, I'm in the airport ordering off Amazon because I forgot to get like the baby bottles. This is a packing tip for like
Starting point is 00:46:53 to me there's nothing worse than overpacking. That's a guy thing though. To me to girls, women, most femme people, there's nothing worse than underpacking. Okay, underpacking is not great either. What if something, now we're going somewhere, now I need something a little bit nicer and all I brought his T-shirts.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Lisa's dying right now because she brings like the smallest little bag this big everywhere she goes with like a couple outfits and a pair of shoes and it's like good to go. My husband can travel for a week with a backpack. I'll watch her get to a place and there's so, what happens is the reverse when you get there. There's so much stuff that then you are overwhelmed
Starting point is 00:47:28 on where everything is and it's just a pile. No, see, I, when I travel again with the organization, I move in. If I am somewhere for more than two nights or two nights or more, I am hanging everything up. I am putting all of my product out. Because you like to organize. Because I like to organize and it helps my brain feel settled. So I think like I've found little ways that help my brain feel a little more organized.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Like I journal in the morning now. I have this awesome journaling thing, Silk and Saunder that is like this women-owned company that I love. And it's like bullet journaling. but it's very much like, 10 minutes. 10 minutes in the morning and I write out my day, even though I have it on my phone, I write out my day, and for some reason that sticks it in my brain.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Like it's easier and less overwhelming. On my phone, I'm like, oh my God, there's so many dots. There's so many things. Everything looks crazy. But when I write it down, I'm like, really I have like two things, an appointment and a phone call to make.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And you can cross it off too. Oh, yeah. It's so good to cross it off. It just feels good. Right. You said, anyway, sorry for taking us down. No, no, no, we love it. We love it.
Starting point is 00:48:38 You said dancing with the stars was one of, I think you said it was one of your most cathartic. I mean, I don't want to quote you. But it was one of the physically hardest things I've ever done until I did be on the edge where I lived in the jungles of Panama for two weeks outside. That was then that took the cake and Anne ran like Iron Man competitions every day. It was like these gnarly physical things. Why did you want to do that? For that exact reason that it's absolutely like, when else am I going to go
Starting point is 00:49:10 to the jungle for two weeks and like stress test myself? And I'm also one of those people I like the risk taking, I like pushing myself. My mom said the same exact thing though. She was like, what is wrong? Why would you do that? That sounds like a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Was that worse than you thought? There's really no way to describe it in the, moment it is I mean there was we were sleeping outside on just bamboo like rough bamboos no no pillows nothing pouring down rain snakes you know the monkeys were stealing our food you know just everything and it would pour down rain because we're in the rainforest of you know with like in the rainforest pouring down rain to where you'd hear like trees falling places and You were like, did you want to go home? No.
Starting point is 00:50:06 The thing was is you were the only person who could like ring the bell and we didn't vote people off. It was all for charity. So it was all about how far am I willing to push myself. And when you got to go home, were you so happy? So yes and no. So I made it to the final four. Okay. And it was me, an Army Ranger who was a country star and two NFL players, Colton Underwood and Ray Lewis.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Okay. Ray Lewis is tough. That's pretty cool. Ray Lewis is badass and saved my ass at one point from like drowning basically. But it was, I had started, I have a really bad injury on my left ankle from a stupid thing that I broke it like really, really badly like eight years ago. Plate pins the whole deal. And it was really starting to bother me. And it was starting to get to where I was like, I'm going to break my, I'm, because you're really. running through creeks, over, I mean, climbing up ladders,
Starting point is 00:51:06 doing wild, ridiculous things. And I was like, I don't know if I can do this. And my bigger thought was, it's going to be teams of two. Whoever gets on the team with me is automatically at a disadvantage. Not that I'm not badass and tough, but I'm not a six-foot four-foot pole player or an army Ranger who has trained in the jungles of Panama and lived there for months at a time. Like, I am not that. So overall, I was like, I think I'm ready to go. So I made it to the final four, but instead I tapped out and I switched places with coach my Singletary. And he took my place instead. And I was like, I'm good with that. Because I knew I made it. I was like, I made it to the end. I knew I did
Starting point is 00:51:56 it. But in that moment, I was like, I'm not going to help someone win the most they can. And I don't want to that, I'm okay with going home now. I'd rather have somebody else win. I think with your ankle, that sounds smart. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, I'm not a smart person when it comes to taking good care of myself. Like, I've broken my ankle multiple times. First time I did it, I just shoved it in a tennis shoe and walked around. You're not into self-care or any other. No, self-care is great. But I am not one, And like if I'm sick, I will keep going unless I am dying because I think I, you know, I worked as a kid. And it was like, you don't get sick days. You got a cold.
Starting point is 00:52:37 You got the flu. You got to take some Tylenol and you got to get up and go. So I've learned like there's this ability to push myself. But I also think it's I like a challenge. I like and I like extreme challenges. I like something that's hard. I like to see test my mental strength. I think some of that risk taking probably has been really an asset in some ways.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And it also has definitely put me in situations that were really stupid and dangerous. But at the end of the day, I made it. At what point in your drug use did you start to think like, hey, this is going too far? Or was there a moment or was there like an intervention? I mean, it was always to, like it was, that was the point. You know what I mean? Was to go too far? Like I was, I was not a person who was like, oh, let's just like sip wine with dinner.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I was like, if we ain't doing a bottle, what's the point? You know what I mean? So it was like, I always knew that my goal was like blackout drinking or just getting as wasted as possible. And, you know, like I think I knew for a very long time that I was heading down a road that I was, you know, it was going to be jail, institutions or death, like they talk about in 12-step programs. was like become your three options and I was getting very close there I mean I did not think I would probably see my 30th birthday at the way I was going in my like mid 20s like 24 25 and I didn't plan and I was like I guess is what we're doing and then it you know I like life changed I got married again
Starting point is 00:54:10 and quickly found out that I was pregnant after that and then it was like okay so this is what we're doing now you know everything changed it was up and down it wasn't perfect I haven't you know, had a perfect journey, but that really was the thing. I think that changed everything was like, oh, okay. It's like party time's done. Like you, it's, you take care of somebody else. I gotta take care of somebody else. And, and also like, oh, I, I did make it this far. I'm, I am a mom now. Like, wow, I didn't. Oh, okay. I didn't think I was going to like make it to this. Now, now what do I do? So how did it becoming a mother change you as a person? I think it, you know, it, I realized that it's not all about me anymore. And, you know, and that's hard because, you know, I think
Starting point is 00:55:03 moms are expected to give up everything when we have kids. So it is sort of a tough balance that, like, yes, it's not about me completely anymore, but also, like, if it's not about me at all, I, I am a miserable person. It's so, it's such a line. You know, like, finding that balance. But, It just made me like wake up and just finally get back to like knowing how to handle myself and being responsible and being like, oh, that's right. You don't have to be a complete like, you know, nut job partying every night of the week. You actually can find some joy in normal life. So many times during the day, I just want a drink that feels real, something bubbly and cultured that tastes great and actually heals my gut. That's why I've been drinking so much Synergy Cambucha.
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Starting point is 00:56:54 That diversity comes naturally from the way each batch is slowly fermented. These living cultures work hard to help your gut thrive. And when your gut microbiome is more diverse, the benefits multiply, all working to make your gut feel better. It's a daily reset for your body any time of day that you'll actually feel. And synergy doesn't just improve your wellness. It also tastes great. There are over 20 bold flavors, so you'll definitely find one that you love. I've been into synergy forever, and I usually gravitate towards the tropical flavors, but this fall, I've been
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Starting point is 01:00:42 And you notice a difference in just a week. I started taking fiber after this episode. I mean, I was always like into eating my fiber, but I wanted to take something as well. And I've already noticed a difference. It's been probably like a month and I'm loving it. I'm telling all my friends to get on the fiber train. Proteins all the hype, but you have to pay attention to your fiber intake. You want to clean everything out. You don't want protein just sitting in your stomach. When you bump up your fiber intake, everything improves, hormones, skin, weight, and mood. It's a really, like the best biohack. Next time you're at Target or Walmart, look for the bright pink belly wellie lid or grab it on Amazon or bellywelly.com today. That's bellywelly.com. This episode is brought to you by the skinny confidential. Okay, we just launched a new color way. So now you can tape your mouth shut at night with our navy and our white mouth tape. It is so chic. I actually have the box next to me right now. These tins are so major. I love, love, love, taping your my mouth shut every single night because it encourages nasal breathing, which is so good for you. It like instantly relaxes your nervous system. And I also notice that it supports my tongue posture,
Starting point is 01:01:54 which makes my jawline stronger. I have had the best experience mouth taping. I wouldn't dare go to sleep without my mouth tape. And now I can do it in the chicest way. You definitely also want the navy tin. It's so cute. This is a limited color way. So definitely go shop it now. You can go to shop Skinny Confidential.com to get the best sleep of your life. That's shop skinnyconfidential.com. When you watch yourself back now after all these years, what kind of emotions pop up? Because I imagine it's strange to see yourself as a grown woman that's an adult with kids and a family and then see yourself that young. Not a lot of people can go back and see that kind of footage of themselves. It is, but at the same time, like, I've grown up in front of cameras. I've seen myself so much
Starting point is 01:02:40 on like that it's I'm like yeah but now I have it's fun to go back and look at myself as a kid you know like I said there was that awkward like teenage period where you're just like oh my god I was on like a lame family show and I have a lame catchphrase and like I'm just so lame you know but and my clothes and whatever but now I go back and I'm like this is an amazing time capsule of who I was what I was you like what I was into, what I was wearing. They really, you know, Stephanie was really a lot of me. And so it is, it's fun to go back and like see all of these things. And, you know, my kids have watched it here and there, but they're not really impressed.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Oh my gosh. The one where you and Gia were driving on the car, the truck was coming towards them. Oh, yes, the joyride one. They decided to go around the car and they were on the same side as the truck. Yeah, yeah. And then you guys were smoking cigarettes in the bathroom. Terrible. But it was so like when you're.
Starting point is 01:03:38 a little girl and you're watching that. I remember just being like this, they're so cool. They would never make a show like that again these days, but the kids smoking cigarettes in the backers. Well, I wasn't smoking. Gia was smoking. Gia was smoking.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Oh, yeah. Have you watched Euphoria? Well, yeah. Like a network television show, right? Well, it would be great if there was a sitcom on network television these days. Yeah, we need a good sitcom. Yeah. But yeah, it was, it was fun.
Starting point is 01:04:01 It was fun to get to be, you know, the kind of the one that didn't play by the rules all the time. Steph was a little bit of a, you know, boundary pusher. And I liked that about her. Was the cigarette real? No. We actually had this, we were having this debate the other day because Molly Morgan was on the podcast, and she played Mickey. Mickey.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Mickey. It was the long, dark hair. Oh, I thought I need to see a picture. It was me and Gia and Mickey. Okay, I probably would see if I recognize. And anyway, she was on the show, and I was like, yeah, remember stealing, like, the clove cigarettes and going and smoking them? Because Marla and I talked about doing that. She's like, wait, were they clove?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Were they like the marshmallow ones? I was like, no, no, no, no, they were for sure club because we would sneak into the prop room and go find them in the drawer and like sneak two out. And Marla and I would go like on the lot. We'd be like, we're going to lunch now because, you know, we were 13. My mom would let us go to the commissary, like, around the corner. But we'd like go and secretly smoke cigarettes and go and buy like the Green Day album at the Warner Brothers store on the lot. Meanwhile, I was listening to Forever. Forever. The song that literally will be around forever.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Did he sing that? Is that actually him? I don't think I asked him that. Oh yeah, yeah. No, he definitely, he sang that. It's a Beach Boy song. It was written by Brian Wilson. I didn't know that. He still plays with Brian. He did. He did. He did. And, but yeah, he plays, John still plays with the Beach Boys. But yeah, that was a Brian Wilson song that he wrote, I think, like a while ago. Well, obviously it's been a while now. But even before that. and John wound up taking it for the show. And then there was like a, there's a, like a music video of it. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, like shirt open and like a chain and the thing.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Yeah, it's very 90s. And then... That was like the porn, puck in the day. Right, right. And then there is also somewhere a rap version of it. Oh, no. Prove it.
Starting point is 01:05:57 No, I, so someone, like, I think look it up on YouTube. Okay. because Andrea was telling me about this and I think we saw a clip of it but there's like a little there yeah yeah yeah I said the same thing I was like absolutely not and she was like oh I've seen
Starting point is 01:06:12 my childhood crush was Uncle Jesse right when you're a little girl and you have Uncle Jesse on set is that your childhood crush or is that no so that's no I've seen John like speaking of unshoused like I have seen him looking you know just literally like he hasn't showered in four days come to rehearsal scraggly beard backwards hat and
Starting point is 01:06:32 sweats with stains on me. You're just like, that's the John I know is like my uncle. It's not like your childhood crush. No, God, no. No. My God.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Listen, when he was in here, I still to this day, John, if you hear this, every girl in the office is head turning. Here's what I will. And then he got lost in the parking lot downstairs and I missed. That sounds about right.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I missed like 40 calls from him and he's like, I lost in the parking lot. That sounds about right. Because, yeah, he's probably not paying attention. He's also a really distracted one. Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, it's funny.
Starting point is 01:07:03 I'm really into building Legos. It's one of my little things that I do to find dopamine. And John is also into it. And so we will send pictures back and forth of the Lego sets that we're building and nerd out together. So that's, like, there's a new Star Wars set that just came out that's supposed to be incredible. I know. I heard it's amazing, but I'm not a Star Wars person. So like.
Starting point is 01:07:22 But from like a build perspective. From a build perspective, it looks pretty cool. I like doing Legos too. When I'm stressed out, I'll get some Legos. Just some Legos. But yeah, I don't want to keep them. I just want to build them.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I don't keep them. I don't keep them. I disappear. Go to bricks and mini figs. They will take any sets you have built, unbuilt, extra Legos. They sell it. It's like consignant.
Starting point is 01:07:45 They'll give you money for them. It's not, you know, a ton. But they also do a lot of like work and stuff with like adult day programs and kids with autism and stuff like that. See, that's what you're going to do with these Lego sets? Because I take all this time.
Starting point is 01:07:57 I'm like, well, that's going to give them. what, I don't care about it. I built it. I'm done. I give them. Taylor knows. I had them all. He's been through some stressful periods with me and I had a lot of Lego sets. I want to figure out how to sign them or somehow like have different celebrities build
Starting point is 01:08:15 Lego sets that they sign for, like for charity. And they're auctioned out. You know what I mean? Because I know there's a lot of people that like to do Legos. And there's some things that you could probably get celebs that are like connected to the Harry Potter or the, you know, whatever. Star Wars. Like I'm trying to, I'm, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Don't steal my idea. No, that is a good idea. That's a really good idea. Because, like, I can imagine, like, say I liked a certain, like, I'll just make this up, like one of the Ninja Turtles or something. You have someone build it and then you can sign it for your kids room. Right. You can sign it and, like, do, you know, a few little videos, like those time lapse videos
Starting point is 01:08:48 of you building it so that they see that you actually got to, like, you did it. Go trademark it. Right? Chat, GPT. And trademark. Yeah. No, I just, I'm actually building a full house. Lego set that we have in the Legos Ideas competition right now.
Starting point is 01:09:03 See, if you built that and signed it, it was... Well, we're building it and trying to get it made into an actual Lego set that they sell, which is the Lego Ideas thing. Basically, people submit ideas and then you have to get all these votes. Well, I think it should be the front of the house. It's the bunny. The bunny on the wall. Can you get a bunny?
Starting point is 01:09:21 Oh, no. So it's the front door, the living room, the kitchen. Okay. With a wall that comes down in the kitchen, with the red, the car so you can back the car through the kitchen. Oh, that's cool. It's got the staircase, everything. Yeah, it's, that was the one that we really focused on because that's like the, I mean, the couch, everything is like so iconic. No, we could do. Yeah, Lego tiny URL like Lego ideas.com. Go look it up and people can find the full house Lego set from me and John Sosses.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I'm not kidding. I think we should pull this clip and we should send it to the Lego people. I'm sure somebody here knows. I'm not kidding. We can see if this could be cool. Yeah. Oh no. We've been, we've been big upping it on my like we're we're i think very like 2,500 votes away from making the 10,000 mark and once you make the 10,000 mark then i believe it goes to lego itself to or something like so that like a committee right right what else are you working on right now that lights you up that gets you excited one of the things that i'm doing that i love you know like i said stand-up comedy but i have this really fun and ridiculous show that i do here in l.a it's a live comedy show it's called smoke show with Sweeten a comedy pageant. And we take three comedians and put them through the most
Starting point is 01:10:35 fucked up ridiculous beauty pageant that you've ever seen. And it's, it's hilarious. Like, give me an example of what you mean. Okay. So one of the things that we do, one of our favorite segments, is the mystery talent box. So my producers and I come up with talents that they will have to perform, but they don't know what it is. Got it. So, like, last time we had around we somebody pulled out an auctioneer but then I gave them what they would be auctioning off which was some really strange tentacle dildo and and they had to like auction it off and it was Taylor you should have went but it was hilarious like and then you know you get people you're like okay you've got a you know whatever sing an opera in Italian and they're you know
Starting point is 01:11:23 just fun stuff like that we have a bathing suit competition where people have to blind pick bathing suits out of a box and then assemble them in 30 seconds however they can. We do a lot of really fun, ridiculous stuff. It's here in L.A. We have another show, October 18th. It's here at Bespoke on Fairfax. And then we do like monthly shows. And then you also have your podcast. I have my podcast, Howard Tanneritos. I'm super excited with that. It's been doing really well. We're on like halfway through season five of Full House of the rewatch. So I think we've done, I don't know how they break up podcast. seasons anymore, but we're five and a half seasons into full house of watching. So we've made it
Starting point is 01:12:04 pretty far. You're very accomplished. I'm a forever fan of vice president. Well, you're president in my book, so. Thank you. That is the, that is, you know, you got the, if I ever started up again, though, I'll give you a call. I mean, I was all in. Where can everyone find you to say hi? They can find me on Instagram at Jody Sweeten, or you can check out at Howard Podcast or When you say how rude podcast, can you say it in your voice as the podcast? How rude? There you go. She's like, oh, great.
Starting point is 01:12:36 There you guys. See, I told you the three things. How rude. No, I don't talk to those. Morn's not going to say right now, but I know. Well, it's a childhood. It is. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Being told by you that she's the president of the Jody fan club. You don't even know. And then Uncle Jesse between you and Uncle Jesse, like it's like, your dreams have been accomplished. They have been accomplished. You can quit now. Shut it all down. Yeah, shut it all down.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Shut it all down. So many outfits I copied. When you said you guys are looking at the outfits, I'm like, oh, my God, I copied out the outfits. Oh, yeah. I think Andrea and I were talking about maybe doing a costume contest this year, like for the podcast, having people submit the best costumes. From when they were little or now?
Starting point is 01:13:15 Well, she does a Kimmy Gibbler costume contest every year where people dress like Kimmy, and it's amazing. So we're talking about doing one this year, or she and I were talking about dressing up as each other's characters. You know what full house is? I always don't say this right. What's the perennial? Perennial.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Perennial. It's a perennial seller. Yes. It's something that it doesn't matter how old, how young. It's like you can just, you can watch it now. Right. You can watch it then. It's always iconic.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Yeah. And there's like new generations sort of coming every, you know, every few years. Somebody that's our age is like, oh my God, I just introduced my kids to, you know, full house. or the kids watched Fuller House and then the parents were like, oh, if you like that, go back and watch the original, you know, so it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I need to watch Fuller House. Okay. That's what, so my- I haven't watched those ones either, so don't, yeah. You got to do a re-watch that. Right. But also, is my daughter old enough
Starting point is 01:14:14 to introduce her to Fuller House? She's five. Oh, yeah. Okay. It's a good one. It's made for four kids. Yeah, there's nothing. No, five-year-old.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I mean, I was five, And I got the jokes. So I think it'll be, I think you'll get it. Okay. I'm going to introduce my daughter to that because it's also low sensory. Wonderful. It's super low sensory. It's mellow.
Starting point is 01:14:33 It's something you can do together that you won't hate, you know, like, trust me. I remember watching things with my kids and I was like, if I have to watch this one more time, I'm going to stab my eyeballs out with a fork. And then when you're done, you can go to Fuller House. Exactly. I love it. There you go. You're amazing.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Thank you so much for coming on the show. Oh my gosh. My pleasure. Thank you for. This was so much fun. You're great on a mic. Boy, did we go on a journey.

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