The Bossticks - Julie Piatt - How To Be Spiritual, Parenting Advice, Motherhood, & Relationship Advice

Episode Date: February 8, 2019

#168: On this episode we sit down with A true spiritual wellness warrior, Julie Piatt aka "SriMati" is an author, podcast host, plant based chef, motivational speaker, meditation guide, yoga teacher, and singer. She is also the wife of fellow podcaster and ultra endurance athlete Rich Roll who has appeared on this show. On this episode we discuss spirituality, parenting, motherhood, and relationship advice. To connect with Julie Piatt click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) WOO MORE PLAY is the all natural and organic coconut love oil that is changing the way we have sex. With only 4 all natural ingredients WOO is the perfect personal lubricant to spice up your sex life.  All Him & Her Listeners will receive 20% off your entire order plus free shipping when when visiting www.woomoreplay.com & using promo code HIMANDHER at checkout. This episode is brought to you by THRIVE MARKET. We use Thrive for our online grocery delivery on a weekly basis and we also now get our wine at Thrive! They provide the highest quality products and ingredients delivered straight to our door with unbeatable prices.  Be sure to grab our deal by going to to https://thrivemarket.com/skinnywine to receive 25% off your first order (Max $20) + free shipping and a 30 day trial. This episode is brought to you by ROTHY'S. Rothy's shoes are stylish, sustainable, and comfortable enough for every day wear, anywhere. Rothy's will blow your mind that they're made from recycled plastic water bottles, because they're the softest shoe you'll put on your feet. You can feel good about wearing them.To try ROTHY's go to ROTHYS.COM and enter PROMO code "SKINNY" at checkout.

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A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Evertson. Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. The point of the matter was, is it's like move the energy, you know, and get out of that state. Because worrying is praying for what you don't want to happen. What happens when you see somebody in crisis in a human platform, we criticize.

I'm going to believe in you until you can. I'm going to hold you in that vision. So the compassion is there. But it's like as powerful creators, where can we be effective? Are you done? Mr. L. I'm ready to go.

Yeah, I'm ready to go. You're ready to go? I'm ready to go. Welcome back, everybody. Here we are. Lauren, what are you doing? I need that full attention. Okay, Michael.

You are looking. Doey. You are glowing. You know what? I've been told this whole week that I've been looking glowy. You know what? Only me would have a husband that looks dolier and glowier. I'm glowing. I'm flowing. I'm flowing. I'm in the zone.

Your skincare routine is so gnarly. We're going to do a blog post or YouTube channel on it because you have like a 40-step Korean situation. Well, here, here's the thing. We've talked to, I don't know how many, let me go to fix my mic here. We've talked to so many different skin experts, doctors, gurus on this podcast. Like, you know, we were out to lunch other day. And one of the women were out to lunch with asking me, like, how does she get her husband to? get into skin and how to get it. Listen, there's nothing special about me in skin at all. Nothing. It's just I've had 15 hours of conversation with people that are experts in the space. That's like, you know, anything else. If you talk to anybody about 15 hours about something, you're obviously going to learn a thing or two. I knew nothing before. Like I said,

I've told this joke a million times. It's not really even a joke. I was an old weathered saddle using my upper forehead as a sleep mask on airplanes before this. But listen, for all the men out there, I sit there. But Lauren, it's okay. It's just a notification. I sit out there. I sit there with these women. I was like, listen, you cannot get down on the men in your life because why the fuck would they know about skin? They're not interested. I was not interested. You know what blows my fucking mind, Michael? What? Is that I am like such a practitioner of skin and you're not giving me one ounce of credit. No, no. You can have a lot of credit. Thank you. Are you kidding? You're going to say that the reason that you take. It takes two to tango. All right. You know what, Michael, the reason that you do skincare is because I would put all my skincare on step by step by step and make loud moaning noises. Like orgasmic. You make loud moaning noses. That's for sure. And then you were curious. No, I, it's not, it wasn't not, it's part of it. But the thing is, we talk to people like Dr. Dennis and Kate Somerville and the girls from Boyd Beauty. All these people, you're getting credit. I hope everyone hears this. Listen, you can't, obviously you have the credit or

the foundation. But what I'm trying to point out is, listen, I, I see. see the DMs. You know what I'm going to point out that you have toothpaste all over your sweater. You know what I'm going to point out that it's your toothpaste because you're getting a little sloppy. Where are we here? What are we doing here? I don't know. Oh yeah.

We're lethargic, you guys. We've had literally six interviews in a row. Well, also we have to, we're going to dinner with a bunch of the people we work with our team. And I don't know what these people are doing. Scheduling 830. I'm in bed by 9 o'clock. Michael's really mad, you guys, that you scheduled 830. He's geriatric.

Paige. If you're listening to this, know that when that waiter, gets to the table, I'm ordering because I got to be in bed. Stop, you're being so anal about your routine. Can I get back to the point? Yeah, get back to your skin routine that I invented. What I was saying is there's a lot of women. I see the DMs. I see sliding in asking me how to get your husbands involved. No one's sliding in. It's not as simple because your husbands are probably not as interested. I would start slow and steady winds a race, get one or two things. Stop giving skincare advice.

I'm not giving skincare advice. I'm just saying that of course I have to pick up a thing or two because I have to talk to people for 15 hours about it. Or an 18-step routine. Yeah, but now I'm going to start maybe evolving into new things that I want to start talking about. Okay, since this episode is so heavily themed on spirituality, I thought it would be fun for a couple minutes to just discuss ways that you practice spirituality. So do you want me to start or do you want to start? I want you to start and I don't know if I want to get so into spirituality for me. I think I do some spiritual things like meditation and reading, but I'm not necessarily the most spiritual of beings myself. I am working on my spirituality.

I feel like it's a practice. I am reading a course in miracles, which was one of my mom's favorite books and The Balance Blonde and Melissa Woodhalth actually kind of bumped me towards it even more. So that's something I'm doing. I also am meditating every single day, every single morning, seven days a week. And I feel like that's really helped with my anxiety. And it's a place when I can just spend time with myself in silence. And that to me is very spiritual.

And then I practice stoicism every day. And I think that that sort of has a spiritual spin to it. Yeah, I think any time you're looking inward, there's some spiritualness. Is that there's spirituality, spiritualness to it or whatever? I don't know the word. Yes. But anytime you're looking inward, I believe there's some spirituality to it, an element to it. Are you looking inward at that toothpaste on your sweater?

I'm looking inward trying to understand how I'm going to get through this late dinner. Oh my God. You guys. Come on, guys. Next time. What time would you like dinner? Because I'm going to go ahead and say six. Okay.

Six. Seven. I'm an early bird special. Way to turn my spiritual conversation into what time you're having dinner. Yes. Okay. Speaking of spiritualness. Spirituality.

God damn it. Spirituality. Speaking of spirituality, everybody. Let's talk about Julie Piat, a true spiritual wellness warrior, also known as Shremati, which I had to ask how to pronounce when we were interviewing her. She's also the wife of Rich Roll, who's been on this podcast, fellow podcaster. She is an author, podcast host, So is, Plant Bay Chef, Motiv, Motivational Speaker, and Meditation guide as well as yoga teacher and a singer doing a lot of things there Julie so with that we're going to get into some spiritual stuff here on the podcast

I know this is kind of a kind of a dicey intro Julie welcome to the show I hope you guys enjoy before we get into the interview with Julie I want to talk to you about my new favorite pair of kicks this is probably one of my favorite sponsors yet because these are something that I've been wearing every single day okay so we are working with Rothies and they're basically the most comfortable flat you'll ever own. I wear them all day. Here's the tip though. You have to get them in white. Okay. Mine or I, this is embarrassing, but I have three pairs and they're all white. They're so efficient because you can just slip them on when you're grabbing your postmates or you want to go walk to coffee or you got to run out to your Uber, whatever it is. You just slip these shoes on. They're white.

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Go get yourself a pair today. Rothes.com. promo code Skinny. Get this deal, guys, why it last. It's a good one. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. They met when she was 12 and he was 15. And they weren't dating then, but they were shortly afterwards. And then they kind of took a break in college, but then they ended it back together.

So there are true love relationships like that. I think so. Which is really special. I tell the story a lot. But I thought she was the substitute teacher when I first saw her, because she came in fully developed and I was a little kid and I was like, hey, I like that. I had another girlfriend and I was like, listen, we're over. He was four one. I was 12 years old. You know, women were so cute. Women develop a little quicker. They do. Speaking of relationships, we'll just hop right into it. Okay, let's just go.

When did you enrich me? We met in, I think it was 1999. I had practiced yoga. I had been in, you know, a yoga room, like a community of yoga. So I had been in the same room with him for a year. not knowing that he had a crush on me because he was in the back and I was kind of in the front. And so I think we met in 1999 and because we, we experienced the millennium celebration together and that was kind of the beginning of our relationship. And is this post his whole thing where he decided to get fit or pre? Oh, it's pre before the, before the fit thing. Yeah, but it was he, he met me actually.

I was the first relationship after his, three-month rehab experience. So this is when he was trying to get clean. Yeah, he got clean. He had been at this, you know, institution he calls it. It's like a ranch or something in Oregon. So he had been there for three full months and then had committed to a year of celibacy. And so I was his first relationship out of that experience. And I think that's a good tip if you want to, you know, if you want to make an impression on a man be the first relationship when he's been celibate for a year and that helps no I think you know if we ever break up you need to go solid it that's a long time he came on uh for those to give some context ritual

you're married to rich roll he was on this episode uh this podcast I think it was episode number one 10 a little while back so maybe go listen to that one and then come back to this but he told he told this story as well on that show and it's interesting now to get your perspective we're gonna get the real story now that's sweet so let's just start with your background tell us a little bit about your childhood oh my child Well, I'm the youngest of five, and I was born in Colorado, and we moved to Alaska. I turned nine on the way up. We drove up with five kids and two dogs in an AMC Hornet.

My dad was up there waiting for us, and my mom drove us up there. So I spent my younger years, my very young years in nature in Colorado, really in the forest. I never had toys. I had a lot of stuffed animals. I really liked animals a lot. But mostly it was a lot of imaginary plane in the forest. And then when we moved to Alaska, that continued. I mean, I tell stories of going out hiking for, you know, 20 hours with no adult supervision,

with no iPhone, with no pepper spray, with no water even. And we would just hike and hike and hike out in the wilderness in Alaska. And by some miracle, we didn't die or found our way back. So I had a lot of unsupervised experiences in Alaska. Now, not all nature-driven because it was a drug port to East Asia. And it was much like today, it was sort of the days of the Wild West where pot was legal. So like everyone had a grow closet wherever you went. And it's also sort of a Wild West community where there's no social class separation.

So you have the madame of the prostitution. having dinner with the mayor with the governor, you know. So it was very, it was a very wild upbringing and I think I learned a lot of street smarts much as if I had grown up on the streets of New York. And I also learned a lot of creativity and connection to nature. And by some grace of God, I didn't die, either from drugs or from falling off a sheer cliff or something like that. bear or something. Yeah, bear or something like that.

What was your dad doing up there? Oh, my dad was... Because he was waiting up there for you. Well, my dad was a Indiana Jones type character. So he was born in Texas, a depression child. And he ended up being a Navy pilot and got his master's in engineering. So he worked for a corporation called Martin Marietta Corporation in Colorado. And he left there at age 40, maybe 44, because he really loved.

the outdoors and he wanted to live in Alaska so he drove up my mom waited two years for him to get the business set up and then we followed and he was a bush pilot and a civil engineer for his entire life up there his he passed away maybe two years ago three years ago now and his last job was when he was he died at 92 i think he was 89 and he was the project manager on a 72 million dollar museum for this famous architect named David Chipperfield from London. So he was, he had a quite amazing life that he was making more in his last years than he was early in his career. But that's why we ended up there. That's got to be one of the secrets, right? Like, keeping your mind active that long. I always worry, you know, as my parents get old, like,

you know, there's people that work their whole lives to retire. And then I feel like a lot of times that happens, you kind of start to decline. So I always want to keep my dad, my mom. I want to keep them like active doing things. Someone of the secrets, I think, maybe probably. Yeah, definitely. I think in his case as well, he had this relationship with the native culture up there and he was like their white man that they went to. So he continued to try to resign. He was like, I can't see, I can't hear. And they would say, we'll send the car to pick you up at seven. So they always, they valued his wisdom and they were willing to wait for him to, you know, figure it out. They were willing to slow down to receive the wisdom. And that was a blessing for his life. How did you start to become so spiritual? Was that

natural innate? Yeah, I was born this way. I don't know if you guys, you know, if you guys experienced that in life. But I think I was just born with that thing, you know, the thing where I always was wanting to know what happened when we die, wanting to know what was beyond the body. I was very interested in figures like Jesus and Buddha and Gandhi. And, you know, I just had this knowing that this was not what we were doing. What we're physically doing is not all that we're doing. So it was a calling and really a yearning that has informed every aspect of my life, for sure. So you describe yourself as a spiritual wellness warrior, which I love.

How do you define that? I don't know. Someone just made that up. Yeah. Well, let's see. I would say more than that, I mean, I know that's in my bio. So thanks, thanks for reading that. But I'm an artist and I use whatever medium is presented. But the reason for the expression is some dance or some connection with the spiritual, the unseen. So like with your book, with the cookbook, that's something that you're expressing yourself with spiritually. Yeah, very much.

And really, so if you, like, if you look at any of my dreams, I never wanted to be a chef. This was a response to the culture asked me to do this, and I was good at it. So I was like, oh, I could do that. And people are asking for food. Hmm, I could be helpful in that way. I think more what I bring to my food is a mother energy. I do embody a mother. It's just part of my design.

I do that the second one. I do feel very calm right now. No, you do. It's not, by the way, you're beautiful. You look very, very young, but your energy is a mother energy. I totally feel that. It's calming. If you look in my Vedic charts or in a human design profile, it is in my design.

It's how I was made. And so that's what Sri Mati is my spiritual name, which in one translation means divine mother, Sri Mati. And it's something that I bring. So when I'm creating food or I just created an amazing technology of plant-based cheeses, The reason that I do that is because I infuse my creativity, as we all do, with the frequency that we embody. So if I'm able to gather all of my wisdom or what I've learned, my experiences that I could share with humanity, and if I can infuse it through food, when they create these recipes or eat my cheese, they're going to feel it's a frequency shift.

So it's more than a cookbook. It's more than just food. It's a frequency. It's an opportunity for an activation to expand, to feel something maybe that's beyond, you know, just the physical taste. How do you use that frequency with your relationship and being a mom? Okay. Well, I would say that my teachers, my greatest teachers have been my children. and I've had a string of gurus and teachers and masters in different lineages, which has been an

exploration of mine. That's been amazing and super fun and really interesting. But my children above all is this deep contract that you have when you give birth to a child. And I always talk about being born, it's reciprocal. So I birth a child, but the child births the mother. So I wasn't a mother until my child made me a mother. So in that way, I recognize my children as being divine souls, as I do all of us, every single thing in creation, who has lived thousands of lifetimes. And so I come to motherhood with that reverence and that acknowledgement.

So it is my contract to keep them safe from knives and fire and, you know, a clear. and these things. But it's not my job to mold them. It's my job to listen to who they are and then try to support that. You know who has a very similar mentality? Who? I just read her book, Kathy Seagall. Really? Do you know who that is? Is it Katie Sagall or Kevin? You know what's really funny? Katie. Is it rich friends with her husband? Yes. So I know Katie. Are you serious? Yeah, I do. Oh, I didn't know that. No, but I mean, I'm not super close with Katie. Kurt, her husband. husband and rich are very close friends and so we've been invited to their home many many many times and katie's an awesome woman i mean she's a powerhouse and so multi-talented peggy bundy yeah exactly

and she's a beautiful musician and singer and her kids are extraordinary so i take that's a beautiful compliment so she has the same kind of mentality with children and i was reading that and i thought that's how i want to be when i have children don't tell them who they are let them tell you yeah well they will anyway even if you think that you're going to tell them something, they will. Yeah. So, yeah, I think as parents, sometimes I find this in education, we all have traumas. You know, we all have whatever we were missing. And then we give birth to a child and we make it our mission that that child is not going to experience that.

And what I'm always talking about an offering is that as parents and adults, we need to commit to heal our own traumas and not project that. onto our child because that child has a completely unique life. It may have traits that are similar or genetic or ancestral things, but overall it's not the child's responsibility to resolve the parents' issues. And I think that coming to parenthood and allows this portal of more unconditional love and non-judgment and allowing for the diversity of life when we really understand that each of us is completely unique in the entire multiverse, like not another you ever anywhere, nowhere. So when you can really feel that, you feel how silly it is that sometimes as humans we run around trying to convince people that this is the right way. You know, my way is the right

way. So I always use animal example. So like the eagle wouldn't spend its life, you know, writing books and speaking and marching, trying to convince the frog that the eagle way is the right way. So it becomes very simple and very clear when you look at it like that. There's a lot of young parents that listen to. So how do you kind of get away from that, right? Because it's natural in a lot of ways to project yourself onto somebody else. And as a young parent, you know, you're going through it and you're trying to figure out the tools to parent the right way. how do you be cognitive and stay away from projecting your maybe your insecurities or your faults or the negative aspects of yourself onto the child?

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this awareness of the self is really where the treasure is. So, you know, again, as parents, we're here to guide. We're here to love unconditionally. We're here to do the best that we can. I don't mean that we're not involved and very involved. I'm very involved. I'm very, very vocal with my kids. But I think thinking that we are shaping them to be some kind of life form is where we get into trouble. I would agree. You said that you had a lot of gurus and teachers along your life.

Can you speak on that? Is there any that have really stood out that have really helped you? Yeah. I won't mention any names. And the reason that I won't is because then someone might go try to find that person and think that that was the right guru for that. So because of who I am, because of my lineage, my past lives, whatever it is, whatever it makes up why I have a spiritual name. I mean, Shremanti.

Why do you have a spiritual name? I don't know. No, because I was actually studying with this Indian master. I had, I guess, checked it off on a form and I didn't even realize. I had been a very ambitious spiritual seeker. So I had a big passion for it and I wanted to get it right and I wanted to know and I wanted to study. And so I had a series of lessons. One was that I got my power taken away from me in a very violent way. And I had studied with this occult master.

Occult means hidden, by the way. So an occult master who was working in meditations, experiencing other kinds of life forms. And he was in his 70s and a quite beautiful human being, very Merlin-like long white hair and celibate, completely celibate. This was in the States? This is here, yeah. And I was trying to be his most devoted student, and I ended up getting served a legal notice, like basically accusing me of trying to steal from him. I mean, it was the most crazy thing, and it broke my heart. This is how you had your power taken from you? Yeah. Okay. Broke my heart, and I couldn't even talk to anybody because, like, I didn't nobody, anyone else who had broken up with their guru that I could have this discussion with. And I couldn't really process it with Rich because he's just not wired how I am and he couldn't understand it on the same.

same level. So I went into meditation and that's when I started channeling my music and that's when I became a musician. So that was a very beautiful moment. Sometime after him, I worked with another individual who gave me my spiritual name. I had wanted one very, very badly and then decided that this other teacher was not right for me and had gone away. And then when I wasn't expecting it, he called me and he had given me a spiritual name. And when I went to see him, there were three descriptions of the spiritual name. It is the being of who you are. So if he was going to give you a spiritual name, he would meditate on you and he would find the frequency that is the being of who you are. It's also your path to enlightenment, some stage of enlightenment,

some level, because it goes forever eternally. And it's also a goal of enlightenment if there is a So it's threefold. And there were a few different traditions or like threads that your name can tie you to. And one of it is to study. One of it is to be of service. And one of it is to be blissful. So I was in line waiting to get my spiritual name thinking like, oh, I better study more and I better serve more. And then when I went to him, he said, your name is Ma Ananda Shremati. And he said, this means blissful, beautiful. and fortunate. And he said, be that. And for me at that moment, because I had been in so much turmoil, it was like 10,000 bricks just flew off my back. And I was reunited with the artist that I am. I create beauty. That's what I do in everything that I do. And that's my purpose. I don't have to study or I'm not supposed to study or serve. Yes, I study and serve. But you know what I mean? That's not the main focus. So I was returned back to the natural essence of who I am through that name.

And I shortened it to Sri Mati because people have a hard enough time saying Sri Mati than if I'm like, my name's Ma'anan to Shremati. That's why I had to ask you in the beginning. I was going to butcher that. Sri Mati's like a better like marketing. Like it shows better in a font that way as well. But now it's kind of interesting because I'm at this point now after, you know, so many years of study.

I'm 56 years old. And I've come into this moment of integration of really everything that I've known. And I'm in a moment where I'm very minimal, very simplistic, very connected to nature, very interested in understanding everything is spiritual. You are no less or more spiritual than I am. You are no less or more spiritual than she is. It's just different flavors. And I don't even think consciousness doesn't even care. It doesn't care if you're spiritually aware or if you're interested in, you know, trapeze.

Like it's just what brings you joy. What is your natural essence? And so that's what I'm sharing now on a new website that I'm launching very soon. And I'm using my street name, Julie Piot. So it's just Julie Piot.com. And it's going to be the synthesis of all of these techniques that I've learned, all the wisdom, to really make it universally applicable to really anyone. So we were talking right before Lauren came in the room.

We were talking about the fires because you and Rich, your homes in Malibu, and very close to the fires. And you were saying that you were actually, what did you say, Miami or Florida? I was in Miami. You were in Miami leading a retreat? And I was asking you and said, well, were you freaking out? And you said, you're actually kind of had a spiritual outlet.

Can you talk about why and how? Yeah. So, well, my retreat, I've been teaching a retreat for the last year and a half. It's called Beloved. and the reason that I call it Beloved is that I use the retreat and as a transformational experience to really fall in love with yourself. So there's mirror work, you know, receiving yourself in the mirror, like shifting this whole idea that there's something outside of yourself that has to happen in order for you to be in love with yourself. And the fires hit, I had, I guess, 13 or, no, maybe like 15 people there. and it gave me a very visceral opportunity to be in the work of the techniques and to be

in the present moment to hold the vision to trust in the divine plan and so I had some of my retreat attendees were like you must be so stressed or this must be so hard and it just really wasn't because this is what we've cultivated over all those years is to be if we this is where this is where we have to hold it together, right, in those points. And so I know that I have power of presence in this moment. I know that I can hold a vibration, like the vibration you guys feel right now. I can hold that and that does something that holds a feel for my community, for my loved ones, for my humanity, for the Malibu community. So it was a remarkable wild time. And some people were holding some trauma actually because they knew some loved ones who had lost homes

and then we did like church of Stevie Wonder so they just walked in they were all sad and like ready to be all like that and I was like church Stevie Wonder dance off what's a church of Stevie Wonder just playing best Stevie Wonder songs ever very loud that's good yeah and the point of the matter was it's like move the energy yeah you know and get out of that state because worrying is praying for what you don't want to happen, right? So there was a lot of... It's an interesting way to say that. Yeah.

Right? I haven't heard it that way in a while. So when you're, when you're, okay, this is another thing that's really beautiful. Okay, so if you talk about a Christ perspective, and I'm not talking about a Christian, I'm talking about the being that was Christ, that is Christ. And we talk about what are the qualities that that being imbibes. What happens when you see somebody in crisis in a human, you know, human platform. We criticize and we offer, my mom used to call it, I'm going to give you some

constructive criticism, right? And then it would be this whole, you know, you should be doing that, you should be doing this, you should be, why aren't you doing this? Why aren't you more like her? Why aren't you more like him? But really, if you look at what is a Christ's perspective, if we are powerful creators and we can hold a vision to create things with our thoughts and our visions, then if I love you and I love you and I'm really in a Christ vibration, I'm not going to criticize you. You might be in a drug addiction. You might be spinning out. You might be having some issues. And I'm going to say, I'm going to hold you in this perfection while you're doing that. So I'm going to believe in you until you can. I'm going to hold you in that vision.

So what we did is we held Malibu in that vision rather than go, oh, it's so bad and everything's happening. And again, it's like it's a balance because obviously the city was on fire and it was major. You know, and so the compassion is there. But it's like as powerful creators, where can we be effective? Is that sort of how you deal with anxiety? And if it is or it isn't, can you give us some tips if anyone's listening and they have anxious feelings. I feel like you're the person to ask. Okay. So anxiety, what I would say is, first of all, remember that we are multi-sensory beings.

So we are digesting information, energy, fuel, you know, substance that is beyond water or food. So, of course, it's the music you listen to. It's what you're watching. It's who's around you. Maybe you don't even know them. The content you're consuming? Exactly. The content. you're consuming. So what I would say immediately is you got to never have a TV anywhere in your house. You just got to get rid of it completely. So I said that. What about Netflix? Yeah, Netflix is fine. I mean, on your computer or on it, you know, curated, that's fine. But I'm talking about the one that just runs nonstop. But I'm also going to

say that curated is also a level. I do this. I'm a mother of four, raised five. I have older boys. I want to be in the know. I want to watch the cool films. And lately, I'm starting to understand the implication of watching violence. Now, I can say as an artist, like, well, it was really great art, right? I just have an inkling that, do you guys watch Mad Men? Yeah. Because, you know, like the scene where she's pregnant and she's smoking a cigarette and then drinking the, you know, martini?

There's going to be a moment where they look back on us. We look back on us in other forums and we're going to be like, they didn't understand and they were completely programming themselves with violence. And then this was being reflected in their life. Wow. They didn't know. And I always see that example as a really visceral example because it seems so ridiculous to us now when we look at it. So I would just invite a lot more discernment into what you're exposing yourself to.

I would also just make another unpopular statement right now, but I just have to say it. This craze into marijuana as the panacea for every single thing is just not in right alignment. If you have anxiety, it's probably, it might calm you at the beginning and later it's going to cause way more anxiety. Well, people are constantly, I agree with you there. People are constantly looking for these external fixes. We talk about this a lot. And certain things, drink, marijuana, you know, mushroom, whatever your vice is, can make you feel better. in the short term, but these issues are going to keep arising if you don't figure out

internally what's going on. Yeah. And I would say also that there is an energy that is connected to that substance. It is a living substance. And you are interacting with that. And so it's just not nothing. And it's like, I drive around downtown now and I smell it everywhere. And it's like, you know, sometimes it feels like it has joined me in my car. You're also acknowledging it. You're also saying this actually really exists in me and I need this to combat it as opposed to figure out, okay, this exists and I need to get rid of it. You're saying, okay, this is going to stay here and this is what I need to keep it at bay. And then what I would say, just to give a technique, because I didn't really give like a

visceral one thing. I have a meditation technique where the lion, the large part of it is a humming process. So what I would say is if you're feeling anxiety is you can either download my technique, but if you don't want to, you can just hum. So it's a hum. So it's a hum. humming meditation. So instead of oming, so an ome would be oh, so it's going out. You're going to put your awareness in your heart and you're going to draw the sound up from your navel to your heart and you're going to hum internally. So you're going to take a big breath and they go, like that. You're going to, let's try it. Can you get it? Breathe. I forgot to breathe. Yeah.

I'm going to do this at 5 a.m. next to you. No, I could see how that would change the frequency of your body. Yeah. It changes the probably chemicals, right? So what you're going to do is you're going to breathe, you're going to hum as intensely as you can. It's not about sounding pretty. Do it for five minutes.

Five minutes. It's a long time. Even if you made it three minutes. Just keep breathing, humming, breathing, humming, breathing humming. Srimati,

I am a little concerned that if I do this at five am in the morning when I get up that my that I might have some physical danger. Get up on the roof like rich and fucking pitch a tent. Can we just talk about my husband sleeping in a tent? Wait, I have to talk about that. I would really, we talked about it a little when he came on our show. I would really like to get your perspective on this because I wanted to, I got, we got his perspective. Just if you can give like a one, like a couple, a short summary of your husband. We'll send you the clip. Why my husband sleeps in a tent. Actually, we just took a really good photo. I told him I was going to write an article for medium about why my husband sleeps in a tent.

Well, Mr. Rich Roll, did he tell you that I told you that I found that I told him that he was like sensitive and I thought he was on the spectrum? No, but this is why I would love to get your your side of this. Okay. So Rich Roll is an extremely sensitive human being much more sensitive than he's aware of or anybody else. So he's like Ultraman, right? Endurance man and he's going to go conquer the world. He's a very sensitive, extremely intuitive individual. Like he can read a room in 30 seconds and know what everybody's about just right away. So when I first met Rich, I was all ready for some snuggling. So I tried to snuggle with this guy and he like had a volcanic like panic attack explosion because I touched his body like when he was in bed. Just like he literally freaks out

when he's touched. Doesn't like massages, doesn't like any of that. I know you're wondering like how does this relationship work. So let me just skip to that now. In our sexual interactions, we have this amazing creative dance and we just match together. I've been with him going on 20 years. It's like my boyfriend every time. It's never the same. We never talk about it. It's like a complete, amazing thing. So don't ask me, but God figured it out. But this guy is not a snuggler. So I'm not snuggling with him. This is not happening. He's very, intense the way that he puts his feet on the earth it's like very right like very you know that so and I'm extremely sensitive oh

you're describing a relationship pretty I don't know the tense come I think I feel the tense coming no I'm getting my name would be three tensity anxiety so good so good so the thing is is is I wake up in the when it's still dark out and I'm doing my, I'm humming and I'm, you know, having tea ceremony and meditating. It's where all my information comes. And he's having his own intense experience doesn't sleep very well. He needs the room so freezing. Like 49 degrees would be good for him. I mean, he loves it freezing. And I don't. I would get him a different house. Well, I kind of did. I got him to tent. So yeah. So, what we just figured out he we have this flat roof and so a lot of times with the kids when they were

growing up we would have just sleep over sleepouts on the roof and then he would sleep out there a lot because it was cold and he liked it and so in the recent years we found out that if he can have this kind of cocoon it's he doesn't want a big tent it's got to be kind of small so it creates a kind of a container and then the latest thing is is I was like babe I go you know I think you might be slightly spectrum and he's laughing he's like perfect. Now after all these years, you're going to diagnose me as this. And I was like, yeah, I go, but what does it sound like to you if you had a blanket that had weights in it? I go, how does that sound? He goes, that sounds amazing. So they have these blankets called gravity

blankets. Those are great. Right? Yeah. So he got that and had the best 10 night's sleep that he's ever had. In the tent or in the tent. And then he was teasing me because he said, then my addiction kicked in. He goes, and now I want more. So I was laughing. I was laughing. I was like, babe, you could like stack like five of those on top of each other. Like he keeps wanting more pressure. Like ritual suffocated in his tent under too many gravity blankets. Does he sleep there seven nights a week? Oh, yeah.

And he does it because he likes also, he said the sun to rise or something with him. Is that, or no, no. See, we have to give me us the right. We have to ask him about that. We have a lot of high, we have to have the wives or significant others of these men. Come on and give the other story. Because we heard a similar story, but not all of this. Not all of this.

Yeah. Yeah. And the thing is, is that what, as a married couple, we have dates. You know, we've been together a long time. It's important. We either meet. Take notes, Michael. Yeah.

We meet at a hotel. We, uh, sexy stranger. Yeah. We, you know, we just, we just, I'm just guessing what that is. I don't even know, but I'm just going with you. Like you kind of go. Yeah. And maybe, maybe Rich shows up in like a mustache and a different outfit.

Well, not exactly. Picks you up at the bar. Actually, he did wear a mustache in our, our food video. Did you guys see our food video? No, but you'll have to, it's a very funny way. Maybe I'm just living out a weird fantasy here. That's funny. But yeah, you just keep it spicy and show up and pick, you know, like picking your wife up at the bar like it's a new thing. Like it's a new thing. Yeah, it is definitely. What are some tips for Michael for him to keep it spicy? Get the tent. I get the tent coming. Get the tent. I don't know. Look at her. She's amazing.

Like, keep it spicy. That does help. Maybe you can get me a hotel room this weekend. There you go. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I don't know about the mustache. She's like, no. No mustache. Actually, one time I did have a mustache and she was all fired up about it. She liked it. Yeah, it feels like you're cheating on him.

Well, that's kind of. Then I got concerned. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're like, wait, what are we doing here? What are we cultivating? I think that ceremonies for your relationship are very, very powerful. And that means just having those special times, whether it's an anniversary or whether it's a spiritual holy day of some kind or just a moment that you.

you set intentions for each other, I think committing to hold the space for each other to realize your individuality, your individual expression is really powerful. And I think independence is extremely sexy and keeps things very, very alive. So a lot of space so that when you come together, it's quality and not quantity. So not hours and hours and hours, just, you know, going to, Rich and my nightmare is to go to Home Depot together. You will never see us there together. We'll never go. That's amazing.

You know, one of the things I admire in a lot of the relationships, you know, I have a lot of very close women I'm friends with, like, strong women. And one of the things that I really admire about a lot of the relationships is they really allow for individuality, both for themselves and for their partner. And I think what you just said is spot on. Like when you see that and you're with somebody that allows you to be who you are and they actually embrace that and they don't stifle it. from what I've seen, that to me looks like the most successful relationships.

I've never heard someone say independence is sexy, but that's such a good word for independence. I love that. I'm going to have to, like, quote you on that all the time. That's an amazing quote. Great. So do you guys, you guys kind of work together, not all the time it sounds like, but sometimes. How do you make that work? We really don't work together.

I mean, that really kind of wouldn't be the description. We co-create together, right? So we're very different in our, the first thing that we did is we filmed, we wrote a feature script together called Down Dog. It's a satire on yoga. And Rich filmed, we filmed a short. You know, he adapted the script and we filmed a short. And it was during that shoot that I realized how good we were as a team, because he was directing and I was also dilated to four and about to give birth to Mathis, our third child. So I, and he was just like, babe, if you go into, labor during the shoot like my movie is ruined so so I was uh you know sitting in a chair trying not to go into labor but we saw in that experience we both do different things were very different like he's really cerebral really intelligent he goes for the stats like if he was here he'd be giving you all these statistics I'll never give you a statistic I'm going to feel into your vibration and tell you that so it's been that for us that's really really worked and again the independence and really

having things where we're not together as well. I do love teaching on retreat with him. I teach really deep transformational experiences that are really meaningful and the ones that I teach with him are really, really, really beautiful. I really, really enjoy them a lot. When people come to your retreats, what do you see as a commonality in these individuals? Like, what types of trauma are they working through? I know it's probably, it's broad and it ranges, but is there something that you can see in aid in all of these individuals that's something they share in common? Yeah. I, I I think that they have a desire to expand their awareness of life, and they are seeking for something different. Not all of them are completely plant-based who come on our trips, but I do think that what's interesting with us is there is no common denominator in the type of human.

It could be a couple, a mom and her 19-year-old son. It's just literally a whole gamut of individuals, athletes, or yogis. but what happens is when they come, they're coming for an experience of health. And then as we go through the week and we go through the yoga practice and the breathing and all the meditations and the fire ceremonies, they realize at the end that they've had a spiritual transformation. And so they're very connected to their heart and their soul. Who are the individuals that are usually the most resistant? Does that make sense?

Is that a strange question? Oh, you know, what's so interesting is, is that, that this is why I really know that we are all spiritual beings having a human experience. The most profound experiences that have been experienced on our retreats have been with the individuals that were the least open, the least likely. So, for instance, it'll be the husband of the yoga teacher and he will drop into a multidimensional experience. And it comes like that.

It's so, it's not even far. under the surface. You just have to go, okay, let's try this. Let's get in a safe group. Let's talk about some of these principles. Okay, it's okay. I accept you fully. And then we just enter into the practice and in five minutes. I had this one individual who he was like, can I leave early? I was like, no, you can't leave early. So we started breathing. And in a moment of like seconds he was in a completely other experience. Literally changed his life completely. What do you think of all these ayahuasca ceremonies? Very good question.

Would you compare it to what you're talking about? No. And again, I'm going to say something very, maybe unpopular, but I'm not an advocate of ayahuasca. So my, this is, and I'm sending love to my beautiful friend Luke who is on it, who is on that trip right now. A story? Yeah. Oh, you were on your story? Yeah.

But he actually just insta story that he's actually in ceremony right now on ayahuasca. So anyway, I'm just going to send him. envelop him with all of my love and celebration and he's such a beautiful soul. So what I have to say as in my own experience is that all of the teachers that I've studied with, none of them and nothing in my lineage advocates using altered, you know, things to alter your awareness. The reason for that is that it opens us up into an astral plane, which some people say is collapsing right now, but there's millions of life forms around us that we can't even see, right? And you have a

bunch of stuff that you came in here to resolve in your body. You have a lot. We have a lot, all of us. So if you engage with a plant like that and you enter into this other realm, you have a possibility of coming back with more than you went with, not in fact shedding, but in fact picking up and then having things to deal with. Now, it's hard to say because all life form is unique, right? So there could be a life form where that's their lineage and that's what they're made to do. And to that I say right on, go do it. But I am not going to say that ayahuasca is the way to an enlightened world or is appropriate for each person.

I cannot say that. So if someone wants to become more spiritual and they're new to that world, what would you recommend they start with? Good question. I would recommend that they start with a yoga practice, first of all, and self-inquiry of really getting into a meditation of who they are, what they love. Find what you love to do when you were a child. What was it that you were doing at age six? Whatever that was, spend time doing that. You know what I was doing at age six?

I just remembered this the other day. Scrapbooking and now I'm a blogger, which is so funny. I looked at the other day. I used to scrapbook all the time and make it, put pictures and drawings and like scrapbook. And it's essentially blogging without a computer. But you're in your Dharma. That's exactly beautiful. What's the Dharma?

It's your life purpose, your sacred life purpose, like the reason that you're here, your mission. And so see, if you didn't understand that, then one could be, oh, one could be judgmental about that or say, oh, well, that's not that important. But see, it is. It's exactly important. And look at how expressed you are in it, too. You're quite an expressed blogger as well. So you can see the fruits of what you're doing. For me, I'm a singer, and I was singing at age six and knew that I was.

And then I waited in my life so that I could sing with my son. So I became a musician with my sons in my 40s over an eight-year period. Wow. But now I'm really, really focusing on that going forward because I know it's a part of my Dharma. Let's talk about being plant-based. Yes, let's talk about it. Have you always been plant-based? No, I was raised in Alaska.

I had the hunter father, so I was eating caribou tacos, moose stew. Moose stew? Yeah, salmon, you know, lots of salmon. Oh, my gosh. You know, so I was raised on gay meat. So whenever I was eating meat, I was always looking for those more deep flavors, you know. And I started practicing yoga. and as I started practicing yoga, my desire to eat meat drop me.

I didn't decide anything. I just suddenly couldn't eat it anymore. Same thing with alcohol. Same thing. Well, drugs I was done. I did drugs at a very young age and was done very early, which is really crazy. So yeah, then I was always pretty thin, you know, so I don't have weight issues. We don't have really have food issues in our family.

not an ancestral thing. So I could eat whatever I wanted. Why do you point at me? Because we talked about it. Because you were saying, yeah, because you were saying that, you know, I need some help. I go, well, you look great. It's like, yeah, but on the inside. I need a little help. That's true. Yeah. So I had the same condition. I developed some blood in my colon when I was in my teens. And it's because I was the fifth child. My mom was working. And I don't think I ate a vegetable in Alaska for like, I don't know how long. So luckily it was nothing serious. But then later on in my life, when I, when I became me yogi or reconnected with that frequency. Oh, I got a cyst in my neck, actually.

I got a huge golf ball-sized cyst in front of my, yeah, in front of my neck. And I went to a few surgeons. They wanted to cut it. It wasn't an easy surgery. Like, if they could have just poked it, I would have been up for that, probably. But it was a pretty intense surgery. And so I just decided that I was going to heal myself using Ayurveda, Eastern Indian Science, and predominantly a plant-based diet.

We have our tongue scrapers. Yes, the best thing ever. Isn't it the best? I can't believe I ever lived without that. I actually find myself judging people that don't scrape. Yeah, you're listening and you're not scraping your tongue. You need to get on board. I will run into people and I will start inspecting the tongue. You're like, let's see your tongue.

Yeah. What's going on there? Can you talk a little bit about the Arvadic practices that you do? Yeah. What are the top three? So, well, the top one that I would say is, waking up and drinking a large water flush. So it's warm water, body temperature water, drank all at once. First thing in the morning. Just chug the...

Lemon or just warm water? I don't really need it because I'm very sensitive, but you could add lemon if you need it. I need a lot of water, like a big, maybe even a half a liter. A liter. Not a liter, be too much. Half a liter. So I get a hot pot and then get fresh, clean water and then kind of top it off, so it's body temp, chug that, that kicks in elimination. So the first thing in the morning, you want to eliminate, right? Same thing, you're scraping the toxins off your tongue. Another really beautiful Iyervedic practice is going to bed before you're tired. So this is usually we go, go, go, go, go, and it's like, oh, I'm exhausted.

And then we have like an iPhone on our ear and our computers playing. So in Iroveda, especially when you're looking to get more balance, you want to actually go to bed before you're tired. So it's washing your hands, your feet, your mouth, your face, getting in bed. And maybe before you get in bed drinking something warm, a hot, you know, herbal. You know, in Ierva, they use milk. So it would be a warm milk. But, you know, organic, raw. I don't do that anymore, though.

I just do coconut milk. But something warm. It's the warmness that truly. triggers the like okay it's time to like you know come down so those are three what time do you normally get to bed like is it nine is it 10 pretty early and earlier in winter than in summer so again that's very ierveda like so in the winter i go to my i might be in bed at eight in the summer i might go to bed at 10 or 11 same thing in the winter i'm going to eat warm cooked foods in as it starts to get warmer than in the spring that I may eat more raw. And everybody's different.

Everybody's constitution's different. So I'm very Vata, obviously. So everyone's different. But to understand that we are organisms and life forms that are living in harmony with our environment. So local, seasonal foods, organic, and also what's going on? What's going on in your environment? Are peaches in season? You know, you don't want to be eating pineapple into. December if you don't live on a tropical island, that type of thinking. Make sense. Are peaches in season? Because I love some good peaches in season.

I do too. What is a book, a podcast, a resource that you can recommend to our audience that's really transformed something in your life? Well, actually, there's one that I've just come across pretty recently that I want to mention. And it's beauty counter cosmetics. Okay. I have recently met the founder of that company, and I can't tell you how amazing it is to have beauty products available to us that are toxin-free.

This is a really amazing company, and also it's run by consultants, so it's actually giving women the opportunity to, you know, or men, sorry about that, people, the opportunity to, you know, create a business and be involved in something that's making a difference. So that I really, really love. I'm really into under the skin, I have to say, Russell Brand. His podcast? Yeah, his podcast. I just love him. And, you know, it's this funny universal joke, how the universal is always teasing. It has such a funny sense of humor.

But I have to say in his movie, forgetting Sarah Marshall. It's a great movie. Okay, it's a great movie. But I did not think that that was going to be somebody that was going to be a mentor to me or someone that I would look to for, I love the fact that he is so courageous with his viewpoints. I'm trying to be less hidden with my viewpoints. I've sort of lived my whole life with his other awareness,

and so I've managed in business and in fashion and in all these other areas. And, you know, he's very forthright and very, you know, very clear and very courageous and very real. A very unapologetically himself. Yeah, and very exactly. And I think that's what I'm really interested in. I'm really interested in all of us really being ourselves. And if I don't say it, Rich will probably be really not the ritual podcast, of course. And my podcast. Yes, yes. What's your podcast? Pimp yourself out. Tell us where we can find you. Yeah. You can find everything at Julie Piot.com. But my podcast is Divine Throughline. And I have over 120 episodes of spiritual content. And it's, spiritual musings on how to live a life divine. I'm going to be evolving that into a new name and a

new brand. It's called For the Life of Me, where I'm going to continue to offer this synthesis, this minimalism, and this ability for us to really tap into our own divine design so we can all be who we are and then we'll all bless the world. It sounds like every area you're so creative. You turn it into a creative process. Always. We're going to link everything up. So, yeah, and you guys, Your book? Tell everyone about your book. Okay, so we have the Plant Power Way Italia. It is over 120 recipes from the Italian countryside. All plant-based has my cheese technology in it. It's really super delicious family food. So you can check that out on Amazon. I cannot wait to make this pasta. You guys, it looks amazing. And they have an arugula fig, Gorgonzola pizza. Yeah. Yeah. Gluten free cauliflower crust on that. If I knew how to make these plant-based, foods all the time. Now I know. No, no, no, no excuse. Now I know. Pitch your fucking tent and start

cooking for me. You guys send me a photo, okay? Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for doing this. What's your Instagram handle too? It's at Shreemati, S-R-I-M-A-T-I. Perfect. Thank you so much for coming. Thanks, thank you. Lots of love. As always, if you guys want to win a free TSC meal plan, simply head to my latest Instagram and tell us your favorite part of this episode with Julie. We are always taking notes on what you guys like, don't like, any constructive criticism, we want to know. With that, I hope you guys have a very relaxing weekend and we will see you on Tuesday.