The Bossticks - Kendra Wilkinson On Playboy Secrets, Girls Next Doors, Hugh Hefner, The Price of Fame, & Reinventing Herself

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

#839: Join us as we sit down with Kendra Wilkinson – a television personality, model, & author. Kendra first captured the spotlight on the hit reality show The Girls Next Door, which showcased life inside the Playboy Mansion. She later starred in her own successful series, Kendra and Kendra On Top, chronicling both her personal & professional evolution. In this episode, Kendra opens up about her experience as one of Hugh Hefner's girlfriends, the truth behind life at the Mansion, her journey into marriage & motherhood, & how she's learned to embrace her true, authentic self as the iconic Kendra Wilkinson! To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To connect with Kendra Wilkinson click HERE To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone]. This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn's favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. Visit http://istandwithmypack.org/ to support I Stand With My Pack's (ISWMP) mission by donating or adopting. Every contribution helps! This episode is sponsored by ARMRA Go to tryarmra.com/SKINNY or enter SKINNY to get 15% off your first order. This episode is sponsored by Cymbioktika Go to Cymbiotika.com/TSC to get 20% off plus free shipping.  This episode is sponsored by Fatty15  Fatty15 is on a mission to replenish your C15 levels and restore your long-term health. You can get an additional 15% off their 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to fatty15.com/SKINNY and using code SKINNY at checkout. This episode is sponsored by Caraway Visit Carawayhome.com/THESKINNY10 to take an additional 10% off your next purchase. This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics Use code SKINNY15 to get 15% off at branchbasics.com/SKINNY15.  This episode is sponsored by Ritual Get 25% off your first month for a limited time at ritual.com/SKINNY. Produced by Dear Media  

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

Kendra Wilkinson, a TV personality model, author, mother. you may recognize her from the hit reality show The Girls Next Door. You remember this show. It's showcased life inside the Playboy Mansion with Hugh Hefner. In this episode, Kendra reflects on her 20-year career, her time at the Playboy Mansion, Hugh Hefner, sex with Hugh, mental health struggles, and relationship dynamics. Kendra is very much who she is. Like, you can hear it through this show, what you see is what you get. Kendra Wilkinson, welcome to the Him and Her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her.

Tell us about what you did last night. Oh, my God. First of all, driving all the way over here on the 405 and everything, I was just barfing in a box the whole way here, the whole way. I should stop drinking, but I'm not. I'm probably not. We have to have advice, you know. I like my margaritas.

I like my margaritas, but I had a little too many margaritas last night, for sure. That's kind of a hero move to still, like, show up for the show. Well, she didn't, she thought she would be fine because it's 4 o'clock. But you know when, you know, you know, when you have an all-day hangover and you just, I know, like, I know. If I even smell alcohol at this age, I'm hung over for two weeks. Oh, man, I am done with it. It is, it is just too much. What time did you get home last night?

Oh, I didn't make it home last night. Read between the lines, guys. whatever that means. Okay, what time did you wake up this morning? You're all an hour ago. Yeah, I took naps through the day and I thought I could sleep off the hangover. And then I got in the car, I'm like, okay, I'm ready for the drive to the podcast. And then all of a sudden I'm like, where's that box? I have a box in my car for donations, a box of clothes and I threw my clothes out. And I was like, ah, barfing in the box all the way here, all the way here. I think one thing that people... And now I don't know how, I don't have a place to put the box. Like, where do I put the box?

It's like in my car Taylor will take it He'll sell it on eBay Kendra's throw up You sell it in jars That's a good idea You'll sell it in jars Okay Taylor

Wait so there's a box of barf Just sitting in the car right now There's a box of barf in my car right now Do you want Taylor to go take care of it? Where are you parked? P1 I think it's a good She forgot How can you remember where she's parked?

I don't know I'm like survive I'm in survival mode right now I'm like oh my God Well we're going to make this easy on you Don't worry Oh yeah no I'm so happy to be here today. Thanks.

Yeah, I really, it was survival getting here, but I really am happy to be here. I think what's something that people love about you is that you are so honest and authentic, whereas like, you know what I'm talking about with celebrity. There is a lack of honesty, and I think that's why people are so attracted to you. So I love that you just started the podcast off with that. Yeah. Look, I think people are so caught up and, you know, brand and like their own, like, branding and stuff like that. that they edit themselves a little much.

I've never fucking given a shit. Ever. I'm like, what's your brand? I'm like, I don't fucking know. That's your brand though. I think your brand is being honest. That's your brand. Like, I don't know.

Like, it's whatever it is. You know, I guess I have created a 20 plus year career in the entertainment industry just by being me. I think that's pretty cool. When you were a little girl, I told you I read your book, were you always like that? just honest, real, this is who you are? Yeah, I've always been like this party girl and a girl that just like says it says it like it is and, you know, I hold, you know, I wear my heart on my sleeve as well though. So that comes with a cost. You're also really athletic, right? Your whole life.

Athletic, girl. I, oh my God, not anymore. I used to be. I mean, I could, I could hit a ball again. I can hit a ball and I can Why do I remember you doing sports? What sports did you play? I played soccer and softball and you know and I was a beach kid. Okay, so you can hit a ball like baseball? Yeah, I golf now.

I just like walk the course and I golf and I drink my beer and I smoke my cigar. I'm like an old guy. Michael loves a cigar. I love cigars. You know they up your testosterone. Really? They, it is the best Viagra.

If a guy's listening, right now, smoke a cigar and go, fuck your wife. Oh. I am telling you, there is something different when he smokes a cigar. Like, I think the blood flow to the penis. Wow. Oh, my God. I also think that there's something. We're going there. I also think there's just like something like masculine about smoking a cigar that like boost your confidence. I don't know what it is. It's like a mindset. It relaxes you. And then yeah, there's the nicotine and all that. But I think once in a while, you get a good cigar. It's a good thing. Literally as of right now, I'm considered a cigar. You are?

No, he just started after I said that. Yeah, I'm going to go run out and buy some cigars. I'm telling you it's a, it's like having sex with, uh, how do I say this nice? It's like, it's like an extra umph. Like the, it grows. I can feel it. Wow. It reminds me of a chia pet.

Listen, there are, there have been some studies that, that say. Wow. It's like chit, chichia. I never realized that. Like, what happens to us women? Because I like my cigars, like, every old. I think it's probably good to have a little testosterone. Yeah, it is good.

A little blood blood on there. I like having my cigar. Like, when I close a real estate deal, like, that's when I love my cigar and my whiskey. And I just like, I'm just like a total old dude, like just like. Like Winston Churchill over there. Cheers. It just feels like a successful moment. Like, it's like a little bit of a high.

I don't know. Whenever I am celebrating something, it's the same thing. You go out and have the cigar, relax. It's like something about it, you know? Yeah, and then come home and I say, I'm ready. Don't ask me another day. Doesn't really matter if I have a cigar. Are you super, like, horny during pregnancy or?

I definitely want to have sex. Like, I love having orgasms, and I think it's really good for the baby. I'm just going to throw my brief out. I do. I want to have orgasms all day long. But it's, I'm going to be honest. it's not the sexiest most attractive I've ever felt, certainly not. I'm not one of those women that's like, oh, this is so fun. We look like the road trip scene where I'm like squishing him over here and like bouncing up on him like a ball.

Like I don't feel the most attractive I've ever felt. I hear you. But I think when you look back and you're like, I look so cute because you do. I hope so. I look so cute. And then just wait. I mean, I don't like, you get this flab like this like. I have the flab. It just comes with having. afterwards like you know the baby pops out next year you have this like gross like extra skin and flab and you're that's when you feel like you know shit it's not I think that people need to be more honest about how gnarly it is after you have a baby like it's gnarly on your body on your psyche on your boobs on your vagina on everything yeah yeah yeah takes a beating it's funny because like I have a 15-year-old boy and a 10-year-old girl. And wow, like, you know, I gained so much weight with both of them.

I lost the weight. And then now, all of a sudden, during the holidays, I'm like, I step on the scale. I'm like, what the, but I am the same weight as I was when I was pregnant. I'm like, what am I doing? What is going on? It's the alcohol for sure. I just think it's the else of the ebb and flow. like you for me I don't always stay the same weight it's like you you ebb and flow and there's chapters

and seasons and the best thing that I did to get 60 pounds off post pregnancy I mean what you do is weightlifting oh yeah change my life yeah but change my life yep change the whole game yeah and then I eat a lot of meat and that really helped but with my first pregnancy I didn't even like recognize afterwards it's like you feel like you feel like you're wearing almost like a like a like a fat suit. Yeah. Yeah, no, I hear you. I hear you. I had, I had to get my skin removed because it was just like flat. Did you do tummy tuck? I did a tummy tuck. I did a full tummy tuck. And that's the first time I ever told anyone publicly. And my, in my flat, I mean, I'm telling you, my skin was just hanging. And I had to get it removed. It was so bad. A lot of women do it. And I think that it's

cool that you're open about it because the problem is, is people like, we'll see a celebrity and They're like, how'd she get fit so fast? And a lot of people are doing tummy tucks. Like, that just is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you gotta go to a good doctor. You got to go to a good doctor.

But you got to, you know, it's really, you can't gain weight on it because, like, it's tight. And then you can't like. What does it feel like when you gain weight on it? It, like, tightens and it hurts a little bit. Because it like pulls on, on the, yeah, it stretches the skin. Yeah, yeah. But it's, it's been a life changer for me, like, after having the babies. And I love it.

I love that I did it. I'd like a mommy makeover when I'm done having kids. Yeah. Would you do like vaginal rejuvenation? Stuff like that. Yeah. I want to do that. Okay, there's this guy.

He's a friend of mine. I'm going to put you in touch with him. He is the vagina whisper. Are you serious? He literally, so he like makes over princes and princesses and. Is he over on sunset? No. He's in Houston.

What's that meme where like it shows the guy? And it's like, you're probably wondering how I got here. Dr. Amir is the vagina whisper and he makes the vagina look like it's 18. Wow. Wow. Okay. You should see it like it's wild. I went into, I got a consultation one day and, you know, I was like, what would I rather do? Would I rather do a little mini facelift or would I redo my vagina? I'm like, ooh, because you know, I'm on a budget here. So, that's not like, which one am I going to go for? Or get my boobs removed. And I'm like, I love my boobs too much. So I'm like, what else?

am I going to use this money for? Am I going to get the vet? So which one's more important to you? So I went and got a consultation for the vagina and over the face. And I'm like, he's like, he's like, so what would you like? Would you like an 18 year old vagina or a 21 year old vagina? And I'm like, actually he said 16. Oh. He goes, would you like a 16 year old vagina or would you like a 18 year old vagina and I didn't know if that was appropriate so I it lied about the first time I'm like oh that's so weird let me ask Michael and Taylor the guys I'm not touching this fucking question with a 10 foot pole Taylor Taylor would you rather us get a little a little lower face lift or a little vagina lift well I guess it depends on who's asking what the face looks like no Taylor what's the

answer that you I know what you're going to say you so you're trying to say that she this this hypothetical person specifically, I mean, this hypothetical person has, has a, she's not a looker, but downstairs. No, she's a looker. Okay. Okay. So if that's the case, then yeah, then sure. Sure what?

Yes. Yes, to what? I'm just dodging the question, Lauren. The vagina. There are moments in life as a man. You got a dog, you got dodge and we even move. But everyone in Hollywood is getting, and I was talking about this, like, at a conference the other day, they're getting lower facelifts and no one's saying anything.

Yeah. Like that's the thing now. Everyone's doing in secret. Imagine though if you were a husband and you didn't know your wife did it and all of a sudden you start to have sex and you're like, whoa, babe, what'd you do? But it's like, I've asked people that have done it before and they're like women and women are like, oh my God, it changed my life. Because they like, they really redo it so that you get the ultimate pleasure. And also they like do something to the muscle. Yeah.

So it's like they restore the muscle. I'm so interested in it. It's at NY, Taylor, at NYC, Guyno is the guy. Okay. He's come on the podcast. He's great. He showed us like the, he showed, he brought vaginas. He showed us the before and after of like the silicone badges.

It was interesting. Wow. Just he like cut off the like the pain things? Yeah. He cuts everything off. That's great. You want to go for steak tonight? Yeah.

The roast beef. Almost choked. I'm going to, I've got a statement to make. I was to say, I don't care how loose a girl. girl's vagina is I like her for her. That is, oh. Really cute, Taylor. That's honest.

I might, I could never be so shallow. I'd be like, oh, like, I like birds of vagina's a little too loose for me. Are you single? I am single, single, single. Single single. I've been single for seven years now. Or, like, I've been, like, divorced and, like, single for, like, seven years. I've attempted, I've explored little things here and there.

But, like, I have, I have not, like, been in a relationship for seven years. What does it take to, like, be your boyfriend? Like, what are your. requirements. I'm going to have to real it's it's about me now right so it's more about like I'm so used to being single now you know it's going to have to take a it's going to be a lot it's going to be a lot like I don't I'm not settling for you know whatever Joe Schmo you know I yeah I'm so used to being single now like you actually get used to it so I wasn't used to it the first few years after divorce, but now I am. And now I look at men and I'm like, I don't know. Like I,

I freak out with, I freak out thinking about commitment and, you know, committing to the wrong person or like, you know, it getting boring even. I get really nervous about life getting boring, you know? So like, even though like I loved my marriage with my ex-husband, I loved it so much. It's just that like, what is life telling me now? Like, I have to really be honest with myself. nowadays rather than like go with the flow of society like oh I'm supposed I guess I'm supposed to find a man but like I think I'm really used to it and to the point where I'm so satisfied with my own self now I get around a little bit you know and I have some boy toys out there but that's that's that's all that's all that they are you know it's on your terms it's on my terms when I you know when I don't have

my kids one week or one night or whatever it is. And I just have fun. I'm just trying to enjoy as much as I possibly can. Now, when I, you know, and I do like my space. I like to be messy when I'm, I'm kind of like I'm not an A type type person. I'm not an OCD person. So I don't want someone like nagging me or, you know, the person has to have fun. A person has to be a fun person. Or I get bored. So it's going to, you know, it's going to be a long process to find that right person. It's going to be a long. I also think you were in a relationship so young that was like, had a microscope on it. I know.

And then from there, you went and got married. What age did you move to L.A. and move into the Playboy Major? 18 years old. That is the fact that you were 18. It feels like you were 21. I know. Like when you look back on it. Because we used to watch the show, right?

That was one of the... That didn't. It's such a good show. I also watch Kendra on top though too Oh cool Yeah I watched all of them But yeah you're right You wouldn't think like all those people are only 18

At the time Well I was I know but I'm just saying Not the other two She was the youngest How old are the other ones Like in like 20s In the 20s and stuff

If you were to Knowing everything you know After everything you've been through And you were to tell your 18 year old Self something What would you tell them You know what You're doing the right thing

You're on the right track You're doing the right thing And even my closest, like, friends that are, like, godly or, like, people that go to church or, like, my very, very amazing real estate partner. Like, they know I struggle with some shame and regret a little bit in life. But, you know, I'm like, you know, what else was I supposed to do? I was 18. I was about to get knocked up by this, like, 20-something-year-old, this guy. And it was a choice I had to make.

was I going to, you know, be a stripper in San Diego and get knocked up by this guy, like, or take this one-way ticket to L.A. and move into the Playboy Mansion. And come on. Meaning like at the time in San Diego, your circumstances were that, that you would, you would have made that decision. Those were the only two choices I had in my life at that moment. I didn't have college. I had none of that. I had, so I had to make the right decision. I, And I do, I'm like, you know what, I know myself. I know who I am and I know myself and I know I can survive. Let's take that trip to L.A. and never look back.

And were your parents in your life at that time? Or did you, in what kind of relationship did you have if, if so? Yeah, I don't, I never, I had pretty problematic relationships with my, with my, with my, during my upbringing. Okay. So I never really, you know, I was a runaway. I pretty much, you know, I've been alone.

I've been on my own for a long time, making decisions, you know, and being all crazy and stuff like that. When I turn 18 and I moved out, like I had, you know, I had this option to get pregnant and like strip, which was getting really,

you know, old after a few months. Finally, Hugh Hefner calls one day and was like, hi, this is Hugh Hefner, would you like to move into the Playroom Man? and be one of my girlfriends. I was like, wait, what?

How did he find you? So I, while I was living with this boy in San Diego, I took this, I did this photo shoot and this photographer sent my photo into the Playwood Mansion and to the Playboy, and I had no idea. And next thing you know, I get this call. Hi, would you, you know. And then long, long story short, I found out what. happened like the rumor was that Huff walked by and there was only one photo left out this pile of

photos and was mine and he walked by and he picks it up and he says who's this girl so that that was the story on his end and and I I'm so grateful for that opportunity it was you know for me amazing and it was healthy for me it was happy for me I was safe and you know it's taboo to the world because they don't really know what really, you know, went on there. It was only, in my opinion, there was only, in my perspective, is only one party every, every few months. And the rest was like, okay, we all had sex with Hugh Hefner once a week. And that's the taboo, is that we had sex with a seven, eight year old.

Did it feel like a transaction in order to be in that environment? Yeah, it definitely felt like a transaction, but I was willing to take it. And I'm happy I did. People have to see the other perspective, which is stripping is probably feels like a transaction too. It's almost like death by a thousand cuts with stripping. It sounds like you were kind of like I'd rather go the Hugh Hefner route and not have to do it every single night. Exactly, exactly. I just took that one way.

I was 18. I took that one way ticket, never looked back. And it was the best decision of my life. And living at the mansion for me was a safe environment. It was a healthy environment. I got to, I got room service 24-7. I could eat whatever I wanted and I would eat healthy. I would have chefs making me salads like every, you know, five times of a day, you know,

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Oh, I couldn't have been happier, but I knew it was not going to be a forever thing. So I had to figure out what I was going to do afterwards. So I'm like, I'm not going to this isn't going to last forever. Living at a Playboy Mansion is not lasting. like what am I going to do afterwards? So I started setting myself up. I started booking my own work and I hustled my ass off to, you know, get my new show, to book appearances around the world, you know, shows. I was just hustling my ass off. People don't realize how much the filming is like it's all day, right? Yeah, the filming was a lot. A lot of work.

We did signings. We did, I have, you know, I have bad experience when it comes to the business side of things. Not Huff, though. Huff was a very awesome guy to me. If you were to describe Heph to someone who had never met him, how would you describe him? He was a very, very, he was a generous, nice person, a very nice person. I don't see him in any other way. He was just a very nice person to me. And what about the other girls at the mansion? What was that like? Having all these different personality types. That's the part that was hard. I wasn't, really a girl's girl at that point in life. I was more of a boys, like a guy's girl. I get that. I'm not a sleepover girl. I get it. And so we never really bonded. I was 18 and there were like,

and there there was two and then me. They were like, do do do do. I'm like this, right? I was always the like the third wheel. It was uncomfortable a lot of the times. It felt really weird. Like I felt like I didn't fit in, you know, and then I just decided just to go with that during the show process. I'm like, well, I definitely don't fit in. I'm just going to be me and see how this works. And rather than try to fit in and be like, you know, like I didn't, I felt like I had, I felt like I was a complete odd man out of the whole, the whole situation, even though I was like enjoying the ride. You did, you have friends though that did, like I saw on your show like Jessica Hall was on there with you like you made friends. Yeah, so I did. Jessica is my best friend. Yeah. She's an amazing friend. She

knows everything I've been through. She knows all the things. She knows all the truth. She's seen it all. She's seen it from her perspective, everything. So it's just nice to have her in my corner and be there. I have nothing but good things to say about the other two. I have nothing bad to say about him. There's nothing bad to say. So I'm not a negative person like that. But I have my right to have that experience of feeling left out, you know? And like I didn't feel, I felt the young, like the young one. And like I felt like completely like I didn't have friends other than Jessica that came in every now and then. So how would you like what's a typical day when you're living there?

Like how would you occupy your time when you weren't feeling? Work out, work out, work out, work out. Running Canyon, spin class. Like, you know, all I did was work out. and eat, workout, eat, we would be, I would be like preparing, you know, preparing for the next party or something, like, what I'm going to wear for the next party? That took a little bit, that took a, like, you know, a week out of the time. What else? Like, it just, it was like heaven. Like, it was a heavenly experience for me. Like, there couldn't have been a better experience.

And, you know, there's two things that can be right, you know, like, people are like, how can you say that when you have a daughter or whatever? Like, I've heard people, you know, say how can you like, what would you tell your daughter or whatever? And I'm sitting here like, you know, two things can be right. I had to do what I had to do. I had to survive. I was in a survival mode. I chose what I chose. I made the choice to move into the Playboy Mansion, have sex for money with Hugh Effner, and I actually lived an amazing five years of my life. I have no regret, but to tell my daughter like, oh, you know, like what would I tell her? It's just like, I wouldn't want her to be in that position of having to, you know, having to choose that.

You've created a life circumstances for her where she doesn't need to make that decision between stripping or that. I'm already talking to her about college. She's 10. I'm like, you're going to college. Like, you know, so there's like big changes. there are definitely I'm rewiring certain things that could

that you know that well it just sounds like she has more options than you definitely definitely because of what you've done definitely definitely I had to do what I had to do and I have no regrets about that and I don't have I can I honestly cannot say

anything bad about my experience living there my choices were mine I you know and to be honest with you like the sex was blob so lame and I wish And it was like He wasn't smoking cigars

I felt like I was robbed of like an experience or something Like people are thinking Someone last night This new guy that I met Who I kind of like He's like I would never would have guessed this I never had an orgy there I've never had an orgy there

Wait what? It was just like no Is it like you've never had one or they just weren't happening there It just wasn't happening It was one on one activities Era of being there So like Every now and then

I'm like, you know, there's something lacking in my life. Maybe I need to, you know, experience an or something. Wait, the way I imagine it in my head is not that. There was not orgies. I've never had an orgy at the Playboy Mansion. Damn. Nope. Now it was a train.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What's the difference we were a train in an orgy? A train means the man goes down and fucks one girl after the other, correct? And an orgy is like a big plethora of just women and men. Girls weren't hooking up with each other. It was just a train. No. And I feel robbed of an experience.

Like nowadays, I'm like, geez, like, there's, I feel like I should have been able to experience that at least one time in my life. Yeah. So. But are people like, no, that would, I have to say, like, if I was at the Playboy Mansion having sex, I would, the girls are so beautiful. Like, I'd be like, bye Hugh. I know.

But everybody was like. I don't think you get that option, Lord. I think the room service ends at that point. That in my head is how it goes. I think the chef salads end if you say no. So you don't get to hook up with other girls. You just have to get, like, fucked by half. That's pretty much it.

And that was it. And we each had like one minute to, like, do our thing. And then the clock was right there. And I was like, five, four, three, two. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Time for some French fries. If you guys were getting, if you guys were having sex with a girl and she was looking at the clock like Kendra saying 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, I get to have some French fries. What would that do to your egos? Did a big bullhorn go off when the clock hit zero? Taylor, your clock would only say 20 seconds because let's be honest with yourself. Put a minute up on the clock. How do you know who goes last? Oh, we all knew. It was like a routine. It's like a dance routine. It's like, this person's going to go first. Yeah, yeah. It's youngest to oldest.

It's like, girlfriend one goes now. And then girlfriend two waits for, and then girlfriend three was like third. Wait, how does he, hold on, hold on. I have a question about this. How does he, so he just, he finishes like five times? No, that's what I'm saying. Who goes last? Yeah.

Do you not get what I'm putting down here? No, I don't understand. Like who's the last person is the one that finish. Oh, I got it. So he's not finishing in each girl. I don't my God's not listening. You think this guy's going multiple times in one minute and recovering in a minute and going again? That's what I thought, kind of.

It's like soup. God. So he's trying different flavors. And then he's finishing. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Did he ever just like take one and go, ah, this is, I'm just going to finish with this one and not even the other, leaving the other girls waiting? And then you like, he's a routine every time. It was the same routine.

No girls got. I never got with like, you know, there was maybe one time this Russian girl came in. She was like, I just want to eat you. I'm like, ooh. Hey. Like, you know, I don't. know where you came from but yeah that sounds spicy yeah that sounds better as close as i got but god the way i imagine it in my head sounds so different i could like do like a i did not imagine like a shot

clock i did not imagine that that seems that seems like i thought there was like girls everywhere dancing having fun like it was like an interactive but is this is this routine down to like the day the hour same every week or is it just like yeah he's a pretty yeah we would go out once a week to like a bar or a restaurant and then he'd pop his little Viagra before he left. It was like routine because it had to be because there's a Viagra. Okay. All right. I get, I get it. You know what? It also sounds like talking to you. It seems like he was like your true friend in the mansion. He was a great friend to me. Yeah. We, we loved each other in a different way. Like I was not dating you up. Come on. I had like boys. Like I had boyfriends. I had so many boyfriends. How could you not? You had to have fun.

Yeah, I had to. So that's, looking the way you look. But that's why. That's why I was ready for marriage at that time because I was like, God, like, I've already dated. I went through my real dating process while I was living at the mansion. Never really got out, but I definitely had my fun. How do you meet your first husband when you're at the mansion? Was that simultaneous? He was there.

Yeah, he went to the mansion to play. He played the Playboy golf tournament. And we met then. We met then. Did you like him right away? I loved him right away. Wow. I loved him. I knew he was the father of my kids. I like knew it. Like he was...

And what does he say? Like, he's like, you're dating Hugh Hafter or he didn't care? No. No, no, no. He didn't, like, there's something there and like nothing else mattered. So, yeah. But that's, that's... See, yeah, then later on, like, you know, we had a great marriage. We got divorced seven years ago. And that was, that took me down to my knees. It took me down into the darkest, deepest depression. So, And that was just because, like, you know, there's a lot of, there were problems that came along with the decision I made to move into the Blaber Mansion. Doesn't mean I had a bad time. It meant that there were consequences later on down the line immensely, mentally. Like, you know, and doing the TV shows and stuff like that. I struggle with a lot of PTSD, you know, just being, I had years where pop rotsie were just like, you know, just like, you know, just like, you know, just, just like on me.

I was going to ask what would happen when you guys would go out publicly at that time? Because I don't, for the younger people, like, when you went on a TV show like that in the past, it was tabloids. It was everywhere. Do you remember what it was like when you guys would go out? Yeah, yeah. We would go out and we were, we were at the hot, you know, the hot bunch at the time. And we would go do signings and, you know, people were, people were in love with us, you know,

for a period of time. for a period of time. Are you talking about the playboy? No, no, I'm just talking about like when you guys would go out with half and like with the, oh, with half.

Yeah, yeah. And like what would happen from a, from a paparazzi stuff? Because you said you have PTSD from, paparazzi never popped up at, well, I was,

thank God, because I would have got caught with all the guys I was with. So the, the paparazzi only popped up after I left the Playboy Mansion. Okay. So that's when the paparazzi started following me. and they started like really getting like it was a intense amount of paparazzi on me at the like right when I left and so right when I had I got pregnant right away and got married right away it was a huge you know it was

huge it was huge news like this girl from Playboy is now now married having a kid we got to get the first pictures we got to you know so that was that happened for you. years and later on I'm telling you two years ago I had this horrible psychotic breakdown like I had PTSD I had severe depression darkness and I don't know where it came from it was like like real PTSD I was like I thought I thought I was hearing cameras I was like oh my god oh my God and you know now I'm not filming anymore and I'm not and the paparats are barely on me but every now and then I'm like, oh my God, do I hear them? I hear them. It's like it can, it created some pretty intense mental issues. Well, I think what you've been through is so

unique. It's not like you can like call a friend and like explain it to someone. Nobody relates. You can't explain it to anyone. And nobody has empathy for a celebrity. No, no. And not a lot of people if you, and you can't like talk about it. You can't really talk about it because people are like, oh, she's not. That's what she signed up for. Oh, that's a lot. How can you know what you signed up for at 18? Yeah, yeah. So I understand all that, but, you know, it did, you know, I'm just here to tell my story that I did. I ended up with some mental issues afterwards.

And what, how did you know that you had had mental issues and how did you know how to solve the mental issues? There's only one way and that was to the hospital. I had to go to the hospital and I stayed. I was in the hospital for a few days and I just slept and I just slept and I slept and I slept and it was the best sleep I needed in a long time. And then I had to get some intense therapy and some counseling and some psychiatry. And it was like a lot of work to like rehab my brain. My brain was in such distress. So I did that and I committed myself and I and I did the work.

And so now now I feel a lot better, a lot better. You feel relief. Yeah, definitely. I feel I feel great. I feel great now. Sometimes I think people, and I don't know if this was your experience, but like even having babies, it can show up years later, like the postpartum mixed with everything you've gone through and the post-traumatic stress. It's like a, it's like a perfect storm. Yeah, definitely, definitely. My kids, like, yeah, I did struggle a little bit with some postpartum depression.

I got back on my feet after that. But there was nothing like what I experienced a couple of years ago, like two years ago now. it was it was the most intense most the scariest i went through psychosis and i was just like i didn't know where i was i didn't know what was going on i thought camera i thought everyone was an actor because every because when we were filming you know everyone played a part and stuff like that so there was just like this horrible horrible state of mind i was in wherever i thought everybody was like after me or like it was so scary it the reason i like doing the show is because we get to talk to people and hear their story and their intention in long form content. So you can really

understand a person. It makes sense to me that your nervous system when you're a little girl is in flight or flight. And then you move to the Playboy Mansion and you're in fighter flight in a different way. And then you marry Hank and the paparazzi's following you everywhere and you're pregnant. And I can only imagine that energy. Well, you're still in your adolescence in a lot of these years. To me, it's like I can totally see how you could have a psychotic break from your nervous system being so burnt out. Definitely. It makes sense.

Definitely. And then, but the one thing I'll tell you, and I'm not a religious person, but the one thing that got me up off the ground is the thought of God. And I'm not a religious person. Like, I have my fun. Like, I'm like more, you know, there's the angel and the devil every day in my, you know, in my life. But God, like, you know, the thought of God really.

was a great coping mechanism for me. And I really leaned on that and found a group of Bible study group. And it felt very comforting. It felt very calm. It felt so positive. It was so nice. And it was a group of women. It felt like a bunch of moms that were like nurturing me.

Do you say you're not religious? Because maybe a part of you feels like you're not worthy of being welcomed into that faith? I don't know if I could commit to the rules of, of the Bible and all that stuff. So I'm a fun person and I feel like I sin too much. Because the reason I asked it in that way is it sounds like you have a picture in your head of somebody who would fit the religion or religious profile. And maybe in your mind you feel like you don't fit that profile.

But I think if you're asking for God's help that it's... I'm going through a spiritual war for sure. It's definitely what I'm going through at the moment. like I'm probably yeah because I don't go to Bible study anymore because I felt guilty of certain things that I had to go and do like which is have sex for the guy one night and I'm like oh I don't want to go to Bible Sunday I don't want to face this like it just I don't know I send too much to like but I have these these books you know these God books and with these positive messages and And it really, every morning I wake up, I read this book. And it's just so nice. And it really gets me through the day.

I also think with being religious or spiritual, like, sometimes it doesn't have to be like a group thing. Like sometimes you can just wake up in the morning and just be alone with it. Like, and sometimes that's just comforting like you're saying itself. Yep. Yep. Yep. Exactly. Exactly. And it's really pulled me out of a dark place, the thought of God. and having a relationship with God, it's really pulled me out of a dark place. And it's, you know, and I now know how to cope during certain times now. I think that's like a really healthy way

to think about spirituality or religion. My problem with that area is when people get self-righteous with it. I think, like, that's an unhealthy way to have a relationship with spirituality or religion. And when you think that you're, like, better then because of that, but I think the way you're viewing it, like, I think that's how most, if I could wave a wand, that's how I wish more people would look at spirituality and religion. It's like it's something that's helping you cope with life and get through life in a positive way.

Definitely. Not a perch where you can stand and judge others. Definitely. Like I feel so alone every day of my life. I don't have, you know, at the moment I have no relationship with either parent. Like I'm just, I just have my kids and myself and a few amazing friends and God. and it's just you know god god is very important now in my life it's very important but not that i'm going to be changing into and you know morphing into this like god like none or something like that's

that's the opposite i don't get why you just simultaneously like can't be but like why can't you have fun and pop puss but also and spiritual i don't get why it can't be a little bit more like fluid Because in my opinion, I think that they're basically, I think what they're saying is you follow the rules, you're going to be at the ultimate happiness. Like, you're going to be at the ultimate joy of your life. So I can understand that. Like, okay, I guess I have to find a man at some point and just commit. And, you know, and that guy, I do want the guy to have a faith base.

I want the guy to be faith based, not religious, but someone who, has the same idea, like has a positive idea of God. So that's one thing that has to happen. I think you might meet someone in church. I'm predicting it. I'm going to give you my clairvoyance. I think you're going to meet someone in church and I think it's going to surprise you. Okay. That's what my privacy. Do you have this like vision or something? I think you're going to meet someone in church and it's going to be like it's going to be so opposite than your past experiences that it's going to be like it's going to be like shocking to you and it's going to surprise you i i don't know why i think she's going to have to come through the church doors for for

for someone to get to me i'll tell you like i have sex every now and then but to to to have a relationship with me and my kids i think that person's going to have to come through the church doors it's but i don't like i think it's great to have sex if you're single if i was single you have have sex if you want to have sex if you want to have sex I agree. You know what I mean? Test out different flavors. Yeah, I agree. Trust me, I've gotten some good, you know. Careful, Taylor's getting excited. Yeah, yeah. But I've had my fun. I've had my fun. Going back to when you were married and you were on the show, what was it like to then do your own show with your husband and your kids and put that journey out there after you had already done girls next door? It was a very different, different, different thing.

Good or bad? It was good. It was good. My experience filming my show after the Playboy Mansion was good. It's just I think that I was, you know, because the show is called Kendra on top, Kendra, you know. So I had felt the pressure. I felt there's an enormous amount of pressure on me to be the entertainer. So I had to I had to entertain

I had to bring the show home I had to be the headliner I had to and then you know I think that caused some problems in my relationship in my relationships when the cameras turned off it felt like very lonely

you know felt very like weird and it felt weird to you or to your like friends because you weren't performing like the WB frog it was just back to reality. It was just back to reality. And when we're on the show, like, I did my best to try to, I do my best to try to imitate exactly my real life. Like, I don't, if they, you know, if a show comes to me and they're like, okay, we want you to, we want you to do this today or do that

today. I'm like, no, that's not what I would do. Sorry, that's not, that's not, that's not, that's not, that's not what Kendra would do. So I would like to tell my own story. I had an amazing production team, Prometheus, who does ancient aliens and who did girls next door. And they, you know, they followed me around. And, you know, it was, it was a blessing and a curse to do that. And it was playing, you know, we had, we, we, we had the devil in our home, which, meaning that we allow the world into our home and the media. And so it got really scary for a second. It got really.

But I knew how to be strong. I'm like, you know, like this is, we're taking on the world, babe, you know, let's take on the world. We're getting all the, we're getting all this money. Like, it was all about just for me, like, hustling. and making that money. And like, I worked so hard. And so it was all about hustling and making as much money as possible to live our lavish lives in Calabasas.

I burned out so many times. And I guess I forgot about marriage, real life marriage. And then the marriage ended, you know. And so I'm not saying I'm blaming myself or I'm not blaming him. I'm just blaming like. This is what happened. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It just, it definitely is a blessing and a curse to do TV. I think I may have put a little too

much personal stuff out there. So I think that that was a very dangerous thing to do. What are you referring to? I can't, I watch the show and I can't think of something where I was like, oh, that she overshared. What do you mean? There are moments where, you know, there was a moment where, you know, like there were a couple moments, you know, like a couple moments that happened. Like in your relationship with your. kids with you or like you don't have to tell me specifically if you don't want to what like was it with with someone it was just raw it was too raw and i i i was so exposed and i you know my family was

exposed and we were all very raw and we had raw emotions no one was trying no one was really telling me how to feel and act and what to do and we were all just raw and so when you when you're you're so open to the world. I mean, it can bite you back really hard. And so there's a lot of, there's some regret when it comes to show business. When did you decide like I'm not going to put myself out there anymore and I'm going to do something else? And what did that look like? Like what did the transition look like? So I did a real estate show a couple years ago. And that lasted two seasons and it was a great show and we had a great time. It just, I had severe, PTSD filming that.

And the audience could tell. The audience was like, whoa, like, you know, you look a little sad. And I'm like, yeah, I'm like shaking. I'm like, while I was filming. Because it, from the moment Kendra on top ended until that moment, there was years. There was, there were years. So I healed my brain in a way that wasn't, it wasn't meant for TV anymore. So then when TV came back, I was.

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you know we get to speak to people who have done what you've what you've done in different areas and like housewives yeah and doing yeah they they go through a lot you know doing what we do over the years, those conversations have populated. And I always just say, like, it's a, it's a really, now that you've seen people go through it, earlier generations and people like yourself, I think it's a, it's a really tall order to put your personal life on that kind of stage and give people externally that much control

and in such an intimate thing. Because every relationship and every parent, like you go through struggles. And it's hard enough to be in a private relationship, now let you invite the world into that and I just think like I don't want to say this because it doesn't happen to everyone but the majority are set up for failure I think yeah there were moments there were moments of filming I should have been in therapy and intense therapy after certain things happened and I instead filmed a TV show instead and then instead of going to therapy I I would go on

live TV shows crying oh my God oh my God and the ratings I watched the ratings one day Just me cry. Oh my God. You know, this happened, this happened, this happened. It was raw. I was raw. I had no media talking. I was just go on live shows crying sometimes. I think people like that about you though. Jesus Christ. I mean, not that you're crying. I just think people like that people like and you can even tell when you, what interviewing you, like so many people when they come on, there's like a guard up and they only want to say certain sentences. And you can tell there's like a, it's like a, it's. It's like a rawness and a realness. It doesn't exist a lot in Hollywood. Yeah. So I can understand why the ratings went up. Why did you decide to do your real estate show? Did it have to do with you started a new business and you wanted to like get it out there?

Yep. Yep. So I spent years. Like I'm not rich anymore. Like I used to be like, woo, rich and all. You know, now I'm like, you know, I'm like a role working person now. Like I'm like real estate, you know, it's really hard by the way. I heard.

It's really hard. Oh my God. But I'm somehow surviving it. And it's just been, I actually love it so much. I love my real estate partner. He's what makes me, like, get up every day. And I just want to conquer another day. And I had a psychotic breakdown then, too.

Like, there was one at 4 a.m. in the morning, I was on the MLS. Like, and all of a sudden, like, I quit. And I wrote on Instagram, I quit real estate. Boom. And I'm like, oh, yeah. shit, what did I do? Oh shit. What happened? Everyone thought I, everyone's like, oh.

But then you went back to it. And then, yeah, then I went back to it that same day. I closed a deal like two days after that. And I was like, well, I never quit, but I, what are you doing in real estate? Like, are you selling homes? Are you selling commercial? What exactly do you do? Residential. Residential. Yeah, homes. So. And I have like a weird question. When someone is getting a house shown by you, do they ever? Do they ever? come as a fan like they see you as the real estate agent and they don't have any intention of buying the house you know what that has not happened yet oh let's up here oh great no i'm i gonna put

that out there no no no no it's no for some reason things um that has not i get a lot of prank calls so a lot there are a lot of people that oh i'm looking for a house can i talk to kendra you know it's stupid okay so they'll call so they call and they try to get to me and and they're like oh they act like they're trying to buy a house and they're not. Yeah, it's really annoying, beyond annoying. But yeah, no, like, I started the real estate show. Like, I, I spent years off camera and I didn't know what I was going to do. I had no idea what I was going to do for a living. And here I am, I'm like, oh, my God, I had savings, you know, from my 20 years of whatever shows and stuff. So, but money was, like, tight. money was go you know so I had to um figure out what I was going to do it's either I go to call start going to

college or I be a I a medical assistant or a medical you know salesperson or real estate so I was so depressed one day like I was like like dark dark after and I was like what am I going to do god God God what am I going to do oh my god I don't know what I'm going to do so I just drove I got on my car. It was like early in the morning and I just said, God, just guide me, guide me, guide me, what do I need to do? So I ended up in West Lake Village and I pulled into Keller Williams, the real estate company and I just walk in and I'm like, and the receptionist, she's like, oh, hi, Kendra. Hi, I'm a huge fan. I'm like, oh, cool. Can I can we help you? And they're like, I'm like, I need a job. I need a job. I need, I need, what do I need a job? I need a job.

they go, do you have your real estate license? I'm like, what's that? What's that? Are you serious? I have to get, and you have to take a huge test. I'm like, no. No, no, no, no. So I said, okay. So I got on my car and I'm like, all right, all right, I'll start this journey. And so I just got on. I bought the books and I started studying. I read every page of the books. and I passed that test the first time, which is really hard to do. And next thing you know, next thing you know, I get a call from HGTV. And they're like, we want to follow this journey. We want to follow this journey.

I'm like, okay, cool. You're more than welcome. It's HGTV, you know, why not? You know, so. Look at how you got these calls, though, like when you needed them. That's weird. It was amazing. That is crazy.

like what happened to you when you were 18 and then it happened later god it's god i think that's god so is your full focus daily focus on your kids and your real estate career that's what you're focused on there's no more tv shows in your future i i miss tv like i i do miss it you do i think you're going to say no way i i miss certain aspects of it i'm a raw person and i do deserve like i i like opening my life up to the i like people following me but it's there's a it's like you know it's a blessing and a curse at the same time but I do obviously I like the money I love entertaining I love to entertain so I'm you know that that's what people knew me as people are you know nowadays are like get back to who you once were get back to

like I was a comedian you know it was like I had perfect comedic timing I was like witty I was But nowadays I'm like too tired to be funny. You know, I'm way too tired to be funny. You're working. I'm working. I'm a real estate agent. I'm a single mom. I'm, you know, I'm just trying to figure it out.

I'm just trying to figure it out. Maybe after the show, a reality television producer will call you. You'll get another call out of nowhere. And they'll be like, we want to film your single mom real estate life. I did, you know, I did pitch. I pitched two shows. Okay. pretend someone's listening

well one well actually you know what's you know guess what I did so I had this one day I had this I'm a horny single person so I go God that'd be so cool if I I have the magic powers to have my own

show what would it be about what's in my deepest darkest fan ooh that'd be so cool if I was a female Hugh Hefner right oh my God you could do that so then I was like wait are you going to do the train

depends on you yeah cigar cigar cigar for all three so then I just decided I'm like one day I just got super warning I was like oh I'm going to pitch a show about me being a female you effner and then and so we pitched it it was called I don't know if I should say it but it's like yeah pretty much I hate I was so mad at that title by the way like they chose I was like this sounds like a fucking porno

But this one, like this one was called Kendra's Funhouse. And I pitched it off of my crazy, dark, sexy fantasies. And then I got to call back saying like, this could happen. And I'm like, never mind. No, no, no, no, no, no. I like freaked out. You don't need to have sex with them. You could just date them.

Oh, I freaked out. And I turned my own show down. I feel like that would be funny for you to just date. Oh my God. I would do it now. I wasn't ready then. I wasn't ready then. Well, let's see who the, maybe the phone just start ringing. Wait, hold on. If the if Kendra's fun house happens, can Taylor be one of the guys that you go on a date with? Taylor. Just a date. I'll be first in line. He'd be on the show as one of the suitors. Sure. You're more than welcome. There we go. Literally blushing. I'll be the train conductor. Oh, the train conductor. He's beat red back there.

He's funny. He's funny. He's funny. He's one of the first. funniest people I've ever met. Just smoke a cigar and we'll talk. Oh. Taylor, are you a godly man, Taylor? Give him a Cuban. I am now. Okay.

I am now. What's the other one that you were going to pitch? You said there was two. Yeah, there's another one. So there's one that's in the works right now. I don't think it's going to happen. But there's another one. It's about life transition.

Cool. So inspiring. Yeah, it's an inspiring show. I do actually think, though, you could do your like Hugh Hefner show in an inspiring way to show women like that were empowered and we can have different options. Girl, if you put me in a house with all these men, you think that's going to be inspiring or you think that's, that's going to be like. I just think it could be on your terms. Like my terms, the devil is like, God is completely like. It was on Heff's terms because he was like

the train conductor in, in the mansion and then you flip it. I would have too much fun. Yeah. I would be having too much fun. I would embarrass the shit out of my kids. might be fun. I would embarrass my kid. I'm just saying I'm a horrible influence. I would have to like really buckle up and just be more conservative. And I if I see like group of guys like in a house, it's on. And I would embarrass.

I would regret. You talk about regret? That would be the regret. But you don't have to like actually go all the way. You could just date him on the show. I would want to go all the way. Oh, okay. Taylor, did you hear that?

Taylor, that was that she said you could come on the show and she would want to go all the way. Is there a question? Is there a difference between an orgy and a gang? or are those just interchangeable? Are you asking me? Yeah, I guess anyone. Taylor, you would know more about this than anyone. I know what you're,

I've seen your searches. Are you ever done an orgy? No, no, I've never done. Have you ever done a gang bang? No, neither. I've not. Gang bang is like a train, I think, right? Okay.

That's what I was thinking. Wait, hold on. This is a question. I can't wait to see you lie. Have you ever done the Eiffel Tower with another guy? No comment at all. I know the story. What's Eiffel Tower?

The Eiffel. The Eiffel. I don't, I don't know. Okay, it's when two guys hold me. Girls in the middle, guys on one end of each. Do you get it? Oh, fine. I don't really get how the girls on one end of each, though.

What's the position? Well, the, the girls, the mouth and the. Oh, got it, got it. You know, I, I have never been someone that wants two penises. I'm not a two penis kind of girl. That's too much penis for me. I'm going to make a disclaimer. Hold on a guy.

I want to make a disclaimer. Sometimes I see, sometimes I see people listening to this show shocked about the language and the adult material. If you've made it this far into the episode and you're now upset about this, what are you doing listening this far in? You're peeping, Tom. Get out of here.

So we've learned about all different kinds of things on this episode. It really was a bag of checks mix. Kendra, you can come back anytime you're great on a mic. You really are great on my mind. Thank you for making the trip. That's a Kellyan said.

She had some Spritz society. She had the peach one to make her feel better. Hair of the dog. Hair of the dog. And I think you're fabulous and you're so honest. And it's like so refreshing. to me. Thank you. And like I said, Hero move to drive here home over

because a lot of people would cancel on us. I know, what am I to do with this box in my car? A box of puke. Taylor will take it. Oh, gross. Taylor. I'll have the bell hop come down. He actually would help you. He will help you if you want. He is really sweet

like that. Waste removal. He's done worse, I feel like. Where can everyone find you? What if they want a book with you for real estate? Like, where can I rip yourself out? You know, just go to at Kendra Wilkinson on Instagram and, you know, shoot me a DM if you want to explore buying or selling a house with me.

It would be really fun. We have a lot. I have a lot of fun with my clients. What if there's a hot single guy who's listening? Hey, DM me? No, I get so many DMs. It's like so weird.

And I don't know. And I get, oh, there was one time I got, what's it called? Fished, white, black, what is it? Catfish. I got catfish. Whitefish. I got catfish. Well, from how?

How? Um, and I learned the hard way. It was right after divorce. I'm like, oh, this really hot guys. Like, it's so stupid. So did you meet him in person and it was different? No. No.

How'd you know you were getting catfish? Because, like, I was, I think I was going to meet up with him. And then a friend of mine, like, found that it was fake or something. And I was like, oh, my God. And then there was one time I talked to a fake, I talked to a fake Jason Mamoa for four hours on the phone. How did you know it was fake? It was a fake Jason Moe. Did he look me?

I tried to make himself look like Jason Momo. Because Jason Mamo, the fake Jason Momo was like, oh, send me a picture. I'm like, you first, motherfucker. You're first. I need to see your picture. Show me yourself in the mirror. Are you asking for it to see his Trident or his face? And he couldn't send me a photo.

I was like, oh my God, I've been talking to my face and fake Jason Momo this whole time. I'm surprised he didn't like go on his like profile and send you something. it that was like a mere shot. No. I know. But it was like good, it was a good, it was for a good cause. Like, so. It was for charity.

It was a charity. It was a charity. It was a charity. It was a charity. It's a charity. No, no, no. He had a good story. He was like, oh, my neighbor is a huge fan and he would like you to, you know,

he's huge, he's huge fan of yours and he's dying of cancer. And I'm sitting here like, oh my God. Oh my God. yes. I got news for you. He was the neighbor and he didn't have cancer. Did he say the only thing that'll cheer him up or heal him is a picture of your tits?

Yeah, then he started getting into that. That's why I'm like, show me a picture. I'm like, no, you're showing. Are you taking notes? Taylor and what to do? Taylor, you're cut off. You're cut off. You're cut off back there.

I'm getting too right up. So I don't trust the internet. I don't trust it. Yeah. I wouldn't trust it either. Kendra, thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me.