The Bossticks - Kourtney Kardashian Barker Gets Real About Boundaries, Her Personal Life, Therapy, Parenting, & Building The Lemme Empire With Simon Huck

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

#752: Join us as we sit down for a rare interview with Kourtney Kardashian Barker & Simon Huck, the dynamic duo behind Lemme. Kourtney, a multifaceted entrepreneur, media personality, a devoted wife, mother of four, and stepmother of three, shares her insights to establishing boundaries to fully embrace her best self. Alongside her esteemed business partner and close friend, Simon, she reveals the thoughtful journey of building a thriving wellness empire. In this episode, Kourtney & Simon dive into therapy, thier boundaries, Kourtney's personal life & parenting tips, and what it takes to build the Lemme business empire.  To connect with Kourtney Kardashian Barker click HERE To connect with Simon Huck click HERE Visit lemmelive.com and use code SKINNY for 20% off all Lemme.  Visit snif.co and use code SKINNY for 20% off Snif. To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE To Watch the Show click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential Head to the HIM & HER Show ShopMy page HERE to find all of Michael and Lauryn's favorite products mentioned on their latest episodes. This episode is sponsored by Branch Basics Save 15% on your Starter Kit or their new Hand Soap when you use code SKINNY at www.branchbasics.com. This episode is sponsored by DenTek Head to Dentek.com to find your local retailer and shop all of DenTek's products, sold at Target, Walgreens, Amazon, and Walmart. This episode is sponsored by Nutrafol For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code SKINNYHAIR. This episode is sponsored by Origins Prepare your skin for the future with Youthtopia™ by Origins. Discover the transformative power of apples in skincare today. Available now at origins.com and ULTA. This episode is sponsored by Philadelphia Cream Cheese Visit creamcheese.com. This episode is sponsored by Kion Aminos Visit getkion.com/SKINNY to save 20% on Kion Aminos. Produced by Dear Media

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Well, you can't fake the grit if you're not crazy passionate about it. I think it used to be that. It was kind of like, I think, before we had kids where we would just do, do, do. and not question it or think twice. It was like, oh, there's this, there's this, there's this. Like, you want it to be worth it and make sense. Courtney Kardashian Barker rarely does podcast, but when she does, it's the him and her show. That is right.

Get excited because Courtney and her best friend, Simon, are on the show today. And it's really fun because not only are they business partners, their best friends. I feel like we get to see a different side of Courtney in this episode. Simon, Courtney, Michael, and I sat down in Calabasas and we learned all the things about the multifaceted entrepreneur, media personality, devoted wife, mother of four, stepmother of three. We got to hear about how she establishes boundaries, to fully embracing her best self, to motherhood, to her thriving wellness Empire and Simon, who has been on this podcast two times before, Simon and Courtney get candid about all the things from setting boundaries to living life on their own terms. Think of this episode

is like a little happy hour with all four of us. With that, let's welcome Courtney Kardashian Barker and Simon Huck to The Him and Her show. This is the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her. 40 days? Is that true that you did 40 days after the baby? at home. You didn't leave once. Didn't leave once. What is that look like in your house 40 days? Are you doing like all this wellness health stuff? No, I'm like with the baby all the time. All the time. Besides once a week, I would do a like an Ayurvedic massage that's part of the 40 days at home. Okay. And then Travis would hang out with the baby at that time during my massage.

It was like a two-hour treatment. I would do that once a week. The girl that you go to for the R-U-Vedic treatment, I went to when I was pregnant. Oh, no way, Marta. Yeah, and they have the cookies or the banana bread. Mm-hmm. So good.

I love the diet. She also gave me a full diet. Yes, she gave, I don't think I followed my mind. When I say diet, it's very, that sounds like restrictive. Yeah. It's very nourishing and it's like a lot of food, like warm, good foods and so many different things. So it was not restrictive. Plus, I feel like a lot of people send treats.

I remember eating a lot of oatmeal raisin cookies. What else were you eating when you were pregnant to stay healthy? Like what are some of the, I know you're very, very conscious of what goes in your body. What are some of the foods that you were reaching for? You mentioned warm, a lot of soup. What else? I love the word nourishing because it's like I like whole foods. Like I would eat for some reason a lot of avocado toast, poached eggs with ghee butter and like Celtic salt.

And like a good sourdough, like fresh sourdough bread. Are you partaking in the wellness stuff, Simon? I am. I've always eaten pretty clean, but I now, as a result of my friendship with Courtney and also Lemmy, I'm much more into supplements, even outside of just Lemmy supplements. Yeah, did you take supplements before? No, no, not. You sent me Ashwaganda like years ago for stress and I was like, for anxiety. Yeah, for anxiety. And I was like, witchcraft. Like I didn't think. Oshragana is good for testosterone too, I think. Is it?

I just thought it was all a little bit voodoo because Courtney's always been on the border of voodoo. So I'm like, I didn't necessarily know the science. And then when we embarked on this journey together, I started to see like there were real scientific claims around so many of these botanicals. What's the real story of how you guys came up with this concept? And even like before you guys did any of the branding or anything, are you guys just like sitting around shooting the shit talking and you bring it up? Was there something that happened? Like, how did you guys decide to start Lemmy? So I ask Simon pretty much any business question that I have because I just feel like he knows.

And so I would ask him multiple different deals that I would get brought to me. Some of them were like to white label just to put my name on a product of a supplement. And I was like, I don't think this is what I want to do, but we would just chat about it. And another one was like to fully create my own brand. Another one was someone that I really respected and loved her ideas. But they weren't really my ideas. It was just partnering and being involved. And so over like the years, I kept having these deals come up.

And I knew it was the space that I wanted to get into. but it was just never right. And then so Simon came to me and was like, we have this another deal that also wasn't right. But then we said, or we could do it on our own. What did he tell you to convince you to come on this show? What is the behind the scenes?

What did you say, Simon? Oh, for me? Yeah, I want to know what you said. My version was my friends have this amazing podcast. It's true. It's rooted in wellness. They're the best. It's so easy.

And since you don't really do these type of, podcasts or interviews in general, let alone just for the show or for anything, you just don't normally do them. I was like, we'll do it together. So how fun is that? And then that was it. That's all you needed. Well, my answers usually no to most things because my focus is raising my baby, anything that deters me from that and my kids, all my four kids. And I have three step kids. So that's just my life. And I anything. But then I don't know,

Simon caught me in a moment where I was like, kids are back at school. Yeah. My baby's here. Well, it's not like you haven't done this kind of thing for a while now either. Right? Like you've been doing this kind of public thing for a long time.

So I imagine at this point, you need to be somewhat selective. I also don't just don't want to do it anymore. So I'm like, this is not what I do. So this is like rare that I'm in an outfit. Like I look like I'm a working woman. And I, but I'm not.

But you are. I must stay at home mom. Yeah, you are in your own way, just on your own terms. Exactly. So when you guys decide to launch this brand, part of the alert sounds like is that you're able to be fluid at your house and do what you want to do on your own terms without having to be out and about everywhere. And I didn't know that at the time because when I started the brand, I wasn't pregnant.

I was fully working mom at the time. So it was just another thing. But I think that's, I think the authenticity of the brand. And anything that I'm doing with the brand truly does not feel like work. You just love it so much. I do. And it's also like genuine things that I'm like just almost like we're just talking about as far as like product development or, you know, I'm also a great multitasker. And like I do love it.

So it really doesn't feel like work. And at the time, so there was this offer that was on the table for Courtney to launch a very large brand with a big CPG. I won't name names. In the wellness space? in the wellness space. And that offer had been kind of sitting there for a few years. Courtney was passing on everything. She just wasn't interested unless it felt truly authentic.

And then we had this conversation. We had ordered all these vitamins off of Amazon, the top selling gummy vitamins. All of them were filled with junky ingredients and the taste was mediocre. They didn't use clinically said eating ingredients. They were using gelatin. And we kept saying to each other like,

we could do so much better. and the only way to truly own the business from A to Z is to control your supply chain, hire the team, find your business partners, like put the work in instead of partnering with someone and being the face of it, really owning it. Like Courtney, even though she is a mom first, she knows the SFP, like the ingredients on the back of our products, she knows them better than anyone at our company. Courtney's personal doctors are on our medical board. There are formulators.

That's cool. It's very personal because Courtney lives that authentic lifestyle. Like she's been in supplements for so long. I mean, half the products you take aren't necessarily related to Lemmy, but that just shows her passion towards the category. How do you guys think about when you first decide to do this, the infrastructure of the business? So like, are you guys like, we need this person, we need this person.

Do you run a lean, mean ship? Like, how did you sort of like plan out the foundation of it? Yeah, so the team, it starts small and there's that startup mentality. The business has grown and so is the team. And I think Courtney and I are very values aligned and which comes with 20 years of friendship. So we know the type of business we want to run. And there's this like idea and startups where it's like grow at all costs, which is just not the lemmy way.

And it's also not the way in science and supplements. So we're methodical and we're careful. and most businesses, especially celebrity businesses, they have an idea and 16 months later, they're in market. Courtney and I took four years before we even launched the business. So there was four years of development. We tested gummies for years until we got it right, and we found the right manufacturers and the right partners.

So it has been a process. And I think I was probably the one being like, Courtney, let's hurry up. But I now, in retrospect, am glad that, Courtney's not one who can be rushed. Do not rush the process. It has to come authentically. I'm the same way. I like it. I like to be slow and thoughtful. I like to putz around. I like to think about it. Yeah. I like to think about it after. And I also like it to be perfect. That's how you launch a good brand though. It has longevity. You know what I mean? How did you guys meet? Like what was the first moment that you guys met as friends 20 years ago. I have no idea to you. You don't? I do. I do.

I knew Chloe first. Okay. And then I met you through Chloe or Kim. And at the time, I don't know where it was, but it was way back in the day. I think you were at Smooch. Is that what it's called? Stop. Really? What's Smooch? My kids' clothing store that I had in Calabasas. What smooth? I'd be strange, but I was like, oh, the kid's clothing still on. Super jazzed on it. Michael's peripheral's on. Yeah.

I don't know. No, smooch would be worrisome if you knew that. We would be worried. Holy shit, smooth. I just lost my mom. I was like, this guy's got to get out of the building. And it was definitely pre-Scott. It was just way back in the day.

So, Lowy and Simon were both personal assistance at the time. Yes. And they would like talk shit together about their jobs. Yeah, I was with Jonathan and she was with Nicole Ritchie. Was it a slow build friendship or did you guys become best friends quickly? I think it was a slow build. It was a slow build because then when Courtney started having your kids, like we lost you for the kids year. Like you were very mama mode.

Yes. As you are now. But it was, no, I think it was a slow build. But then it just became so authentic and normal. And we also interplay, like, friendship and business. How do you guys work together before Lemmy? Like, what is the dynamic before Lemmy had launched? We really didn't work together besides, you know, Simon would come on our show sometimes,

but I don't consider it. That's not, like, working. And then I have a marketing company outside of Lemmy that connects brands with celebrities. So Courtney would be the face of daring foods or she would do a campaign. for one of the brands I represent. So we would test each other out in that capacity. So I would know the things that she's never going to agree to. Like a brand would say, well, Courtney's going to do an eight-hour media tour.

I'm like, good luck. Yeah. Like I know the things that are important to her. And with Lemmy, I know the triggers that like this is never going to work. Like we can't, when it comes to ingredients and science, that is just something that is so important to Courtney and that she lives in her. her daily life. You seem really focused, Courtney, on, seems like you only give your energy towards things that you want to give it to. And if you don't want to do it, like, it's just you're not

going to waste your capacity. Well, like as a, it's a big now. Yeah, it's like, what I find intriguing about you among other things, and it's maybe, you might relate to this, Lauren like came out of the womb tap dancing, she's ready to go. And I'm a little bit more resistant, but I will do things if it's required and watching you over the years on the show, it seems like sometimes you're resistant because the thing you want to be at home with your kids, which I relate to. And I wonder how you over the years come to the decision to keep coming back when you have to be on the show. Yeah, because I could tell sometimes, maybe I'm wrong. But it's like maybe the others are like, okay, we're ready to roll. And you're like, oh, you really got to think about it. It's fair to say.

And I think there's times when I feel like I'm ready to roll. And then, you know, I think at the place where I'm at right now, I don't film a lot. When I do, I'm like saying, hey, guys, I'm doing this. Do you want to come where it used to be like Monday through Friday filming? You know, or sometimes on the weekends, depending what was going on. So it was like filming every day, all day, no matter what. And then I started having my boundaries, which everyone, I'm sure, knows about where it was like, I carpool in the morning.

We're done by this time because I'm going to be with my kids and we're going to have family dinner and whatever, you know, the things were. So then there was that phase. And now the phase is I say like, hey, I'm filming this podcast today. Do you guys want to come film? You know? So then it's, I'm truly saying, hey, come film this. So I'm not, I don't feel resentful.

It's kind of on your terms. Exactly. When you were a little girl, did you think you were going to be doing work like this? Did you ever anticipate you were going to be on television and have this kind of platform? What did you think you were going to do? I always wanted to be a fashion designer. And I would play. I was Donna Karen and Kim was my assistant.

And I would make her like we would be in my dad's office like doing phone calls. like, hey, I'm Donna Karen, you know, and Kim would like take the call first and get me. And then like we would go upstairs to my mom's closet and just play with all the clothes. Where does both of you guys's work ethic come from? Obviously, all my sisters have like, and my mom, like we all have a crazy work ethic. And I don't know where it comes from. Yeah. I think it comes from passion. Like you can only do something if you're crazy passionate about it. And with Lemmy, for example, like it's authentic. I think sometimes you see people who start businesses where there isn't that passion where someone told you, oh, this could be a lucrative opportunity. Well,

you can't fake the grit if you're not crazy passionate about it. I think it used to be that. maybe before I did therapy and became self-aware. And actually, it was kind of like, I think, before we had kids where we would just do, do, do, and not question it or think twice. It was like, oh, there's this, there's this, there's this. What do you mean? You just like say yes and be in this. Say yes and do it whether we were passionate or not passionate and just like do the deals.

But don't you think in a way with kids you kind of like forces you to slow. down and think about that. I relate to that. We used to just say yes to everything. And now I'm like if I have to be away from the kids or we have to be away from the kids, like it's got to be a real reason. Like you want it to be worth it and make sense. And I think that's that naturally happens over time. And I think yeah, just like I obviously feel grateful that I can be selective and choose to do the things that really mean something to me. It's almost like you have to say yes in the beginning. Just say yes to everything to like get to the other side where you can then say no.

And for me, it's the same thing. I look through it as a lens. Is this worth being away from my kids? And if it's a no, I don't really want to do it. It's got to be worth it. With you, you said more passion. Well, I don't have kids. So I'm in my work era where,

I do like probably work more than I Phil was on this podcast right now. He would say that I'm a workhorse and I work too much. I don't think I do because I love what I do. I don't think of Lemmy as work. And another thing, which I think is so important to even anyone listening when you're starting a business, like if you're a business partner and you don't, if you don't have good vibe, meaning you don't want to get on the phone and talk about a problem for two and a half hours, good luck with that business. Because vibe is so important. And I think we feel really lucky because everyone that we work with on the Lemmy team and just Courtney and I can hop on a Zoom for three hours and do circles about a problem and find the solution and hang up that call and not feel like we've wasted our time. Like we're happy to spend the time together. So that also is a big contributor to it. How do you guys wake up? You wake up with your phone in your face? Do you wake up to a cup of matcha? What's your morning routine if you have one?

I'm caffeine-free because I'm breastfeeding. I wake up. How do I wake up? I don't know. I feel like there's like birds and like butter. Yeah. Cinderella. Courtney is an incredible sleeper.

It's a superpower I've never seen. That's good. Like what are we talking? Like what, like people on that listen to this show love details. So are you sleeping from like 8 p.m. to like 8 a.m. like what's the sleep schedule? I'm on the craziest hour. right now because of our whole summer of touring.

But I think one thing too is because we sleep with our baby. Can you tell Michael all the benefits of this? Because I want to do this if I have another baby. No, we... No, you're going to try to fight it. Just hear the benefits. I want to hear the benefits. Let's hear the benefits.

Well, my mom was saying this to me last night because she's not... She's not... She's a bit resistant. Right. And she doesn't have to worry about it because it's not her baby and she's done having kids. She did have six of them. She did.

As a mother, I like to do what feels natural and instinctual to me. And that's for me what it is. And of course, I also read all the benefits and hear all the benefits. And I mean, it's something that mammals have been doing for since time existed. Is there a cutoff? No, I mean, I think every person's different and every child is different. My oldest son slept with me till he was seven and just naturally wanted to sleep. I mean, also part of it, like at a certain time, I would put him to bed in his room and then he would come in my room.

That's what my daughter does. She comes in. And then at seven, he just, he stopped. And he was like, I'm done with you. I sleep in my own room. And then my daughter slept with me pretty much till she was 11. Well, this may be too much information

because we just met, but I need to sometimes be able to get to her, if you know what I mean? The kids there. Yeah, well, you're going to have to use other ideas. We figure it out. Yeah, you got to be resourceful. Like, sneaking around the house. I'll meet you in the theater room.

Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, that's fine. Also, you just put locks on the theater door. Yeah. And I will say, you hear noises run away, son. That both parents being aligned on that is really important. I mean, my perspective is if that's what she wants, like, we're doing it. Like, my husband loves it too.

So we get aligned. I go back and forth because I'll lay there with my daughter and then I will think about when I can't do that anymore. And that makes me sad. So, like, I want those moments. It's going to go so fast. My son just started high school. Like it's going to go so fast.

You're going to be like... That's wild to think about it. You know, you just stopped sleeping with your mom. No, my mom is like, it's never happening. There was no chance with her. My mom's half Japanese. She was like, good luck, buddy. I don't think she left for like two.

She's going to kill me for saying. This podcast might get a few listens. She left for a while and she was like, yeah, you were fine. Your aunt took over for a minute. Oh, my gosh. I'm fine. You seem fine. Everything's working for me.

So what are your normal hours if you're home, you're doing your 40 days, 40 nights, what are the hours that you would like to sleep? What are the hours that you try to sleep? I would say I probably sleep generally at home like 11 to 7. And then what are you guys doing when you wake up? What are like the things that you go for? Do you have like a lemon water? So I alternate. Sometimes I do a lemon water. Okay. my husband always brings me whatever that is in bed. So whether it's like sometimes I just do, because he makes a macha. He gets up and he makes a matcha and then he'll bring while he's having his matcha. I'll have either a hot water, a hot water with lemon or a hot water with apple cider vinegar.

But before I do that, I have colostrum is my new thing. Clostrum is the best. Love it. I have colostrum first. and then... Wait, your own colostrum or colostrum powder? Powder. Okay, because I think you can drink your own colostrum, I think.

But I think... It's only in the beginning, sorry. Tiny bit. And your baby really needs that. I know, you should give it to the baby. I was, like, rubbing it out my face. Like, mommy needs her skincare. And then, yeah, have nice, like, snuggly moments in bed.

We do that. No, I need apple cider vinegar with warm water tomorrow. Does he bring you a tray? No. Okay. The glass. I could use a tray.

A cup, a mug. But she does this thing to me where she's, you need to make all these things. And she has 15 beverage. Then she won't drink any of them. And she's like, it's the thought of the thing. I like, what is the point of all this? It just seems a little wasteful, you know? What is your morning routine?

For some reason, I think you reach for your phone. It's definitely not that. I have a quad latte within 17 seconds of getting up. And then I am on my phone five minutes later. Is it quad latte, four shots? It is four shots. That's insane. Yeah.

And then I'm in workland by 7.30 in the morning. Now, I will say I burn bright and fade fast. So Courtney knows, like, I'm not available after 6.30. Like, at nighttime, I am not, I turn my phone off. Courtney will send a message at like 10, 15. She's like, I know you're not going to get this. But let's talk about this in the morning. Time passed, like, realistically, 9 p.m.

Yeah. I know Simon is not available. Not available. What are the wellness things that you both do throughout your day? Like, are you guys cold plunging? Are you saw on it? Like, is there things that you guys love, like a certain concoction? What are things the audience loves this?

Like little wellness hacks. You know who we had recently on our show was Dr. Andy Galpin? And he mentioned he brought up your husband because your husband loves cold plunging, right? Because she loves cold plunging. They were going back and forth, like a certain person gets super well. wire, but he was trying to say like, hey, you need to like regulate the amount you do, the cold plunging. So I'm not a cold plunger.

We have a cold plunge. And I think also you're technically, I've seen mixed things about if you should do it while you're breastfeeding. So I haven't been doing sauna cold plunge or any type of those wellness things. I actually spoke to Andy because I'm building a wellness. section at my home to have those things because you think about it we dedicate these spaces in our homes to different things that maybe aren't as important but I'm I feel like it's really important to have a wellness when I was breastfeeding I stood in front of like red light

and all of a sudden milk started shooting out of my nipples whoa like like just pouring out I have a red light, the red light panel. I just set it up yesterday and I was curious if I could do it. I don't know if that means it's like detoxing it. Right, because you're not supposed to detox while breastfeeding. I don't know what it meant, but all I remember, I just remembered that when you were talking about your wellness stuff. It just started shooting out. We're there. This is Lauren. Nice to meet you. Lauren and I are all about efficiencies and not doing things the hard way. One of the easiest things that can do right now and make a huge difference in your life is switching your household cleaning

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So fixing my sleep was critical for me to be able to function. Because I'm breastfeeding, that's why I was saying. I'm very, I have baby brain. I'm in a baby bubble. So because I'm breastfeeding, I really working out is not a top priority. I walk every single day with outside, get some fresh air with the stroller. Even if it's raining, I love to walk outside in the rain or whatever's going. on, but I walk at least two miles. Sometimes I'll walk four miles, like I'll do it twice.

But my wellness right now is things that make me happy. So it's like making pancakes for my kids in the morning and waking them up and driving them to school. You know, it's like my day is, the simple things make me really happy. Do you guys monitor the content that you consume? Meaning like, are you, like, watching TV a lot? Is there Instagram accounts that you guys follow? Or are you guys, like, shut off from it? I don't watch a lot of TV, but on the tour bus, I'll watch, like, we'll put on the TV at the end of the night and kind of watch some things. And sometimes, I think to myself, is this too dark?

Like, should we not be watching these crazy serial? killer shows or whatever, but then, like, they're so good. Yeah. I have to delete TikTok and Instagram fairly often because I find myself going into these rabbit holes that are not helpful for my mental health. But you are so much better because you used to go spend more time. Now I feel like you rarely use your phone on Instagram. I don't use my phone a lot.

And I try to be present in the moment. I'll leave my phone on purpose. Which is a new thing, I would say. New, like new as in the last couple of years. But I also have a lot of positive content. I was telling Simon on my TikTok, it's a lot of Bible verses and health and wellness things. I think it's what you spend time consuming. I always say, like, if you can tell what frequency you're on by what content's being served to you.

Right. Don't you think? Yes, and that's scary for my content. Those algorithms know what you're, like they get used to what you're looking for. Yes. And what you spend time actually looking at. So mine is health and wellness, kid stuff, Bible versus. You mentioned therapy earlier.

Is therapy something that you like love? Do you feel like it's helped you evolve as a person? Is it something that you can't live without still? I love therapy. I think it's completely. helped me grow. And I think it's really hard when you first get started with it because it can almost, for me at least, it could make me have a negative outlook towards certain things. But I don't feel that way anymore. I think that's part of the growth and part of the journey

is getting past that. Just having a, I think I have a deeper understanding of people and compassion for people and just knowing that we're all doing our best and on our own journey. And it's not something I do need to do as consistently now. It's something I'll do when I feel like it would be helpful, but it's not like I used to do a double session once a week. And I don't do that anymore. It's, it could be like a month that I don't do it. It's, it could be like a month that I don't do it. And then I'm like, oh, it would be good. Do you do therapy?

I did, and then I stopped, but now it's maintenance. I do love meditation. And Melissa Woodhelf got me on to meditation, which I've been really bad at recently. And I can see the ruminations start to come out. So then I go back and I do the maintenance and I do the work. Are you meditating to Melissa Wood? She's such a good meditation voice.

No, she just got me on to calm. So I do it on calm or headspace, common headspace. After or before the quadruple latte? So before, but that was the problem. I couldn't get myself motivated without the quad latte, but you cannot meditate on a quad latte. And would you just fall asleep, fall back to sleep before the latte?

No, I just couldn't focus on like, you know, your mantra. I'm just like, oh God, this isn't working for me. There's a mantra. Yeah, one of them, I had a mantra. The other one, I didn't. just like following the waves. I'm like, I can't follow these waves anymore. Hey, mom. Hey, mom. Hey, mom. Hey, mom. Hi. Hi. Good. It's going great. Thank you. I said I live in sweats pretty much. I haven't unpacked my,

since I've moved in to my husband's house or our house, whatever, moving in together. I haven't moved my clothes over. So it's been 10 months and I just wear his clothes. Just wear his sweats. I wear his clothes every day. You've inspired me because the next time I have a baby, which might have happened last night, would not leave me alone. Has the kid had to move out of the bed? I want to do 40 days, 40 nights.

And I can't believe I'm saying that because I was the one that was like, let's get back to work. Like right after, like two weeks after. like let's go out to dinner like and i think i'm going to try 40 days 40 nights and i think i'm going to let the baby sleep in the bed with me well this is like kind of strange to say but we were somewhat lucky with our first this was actually real strangely we had our daughter january of 2020 and so i went right back to work two weeks but then covid happened and so we're all forced to and i think it was really good because i would have just gone straight back there's some nice elements, wasn't there? So I think staying home, like, doesn't that give you so much peace

to think about and take off so much pressure of having to get, be like, I'm going to bounce back? It's almost something you want to prove to yourself the first time, I think. Totally. And the first time I was a maniac. I look back and I almost feel bad for myself. I was like, oh, like, why did I have feel so much pressure to do that? Yeah. I felt like I needed to like, like, lose the weight right away. I think it's nice. It's soft what you're doing. And I didn't feel that this time at all. Like the pressure, the anything, I just, I still don't feel the pressure. I hardly work out. I walk. I nourish myself with good foods. I'm not hard on myself. I think it's the way to be. What's something that people would not know about touring? It seems like it's a lot of work, a lot of

planning. It is, but I think what I've learned in it is less is more. So the first, like, just go with the flow, bring one suitcase, rewear clothes throughout. Like, I'm, like, mixing and matching, like, between the clothes that I have out there. So, I mean, you're living out of a suitcase where the first time I felt like, oh, I have these outfits and I have. And I have. of like I had multiple suitcases. I think I had three or something the first time I went. And then every city going in, unpacking, undoing the three bags, taking the hanging clothes, hang them up. It just became too much of a thing. And I just became really easy with it. And yeah, I think just going with the flow and being easy.

What is it like for Travis when he's on tour? Is it like, is he all consumed with what he's doing? or does he go play the show and he comes back and it's just like a normal day? I say afterwards, I'm always like because he'll come from that, you know, 70,000 people like you're performing in front of and that crazy adrenaline and energy. And then right off the, like onto the tour bus and we're hanging out with the baby in the back in pajamas, you know, listening to baby beluga. And I'm like, is this is this so, strange, you know, to come off stage to, and like, it's like two polar opposite worlds.

And he's like, it's like, it's the best thing in the world. I like the just a position of it. To be able to come. And I think we also, like we stay in like, try to be like peaceful about the actual places we're staying. And he does a lot of health and wellness, like consumes his day with that, just recovery and cold plunge, sauna, hyperbaric. Does he have like a protocol for like how long he goes in? I think so. I don't know exactly what it is.

But yeah, I think cold plunge is three minutes. I'm not sure exactly what. He likes intense. One of the initial attractions is you guys are both so into that world. I think definitely because we were friends for so long and connected. as friends, you know, about health and wellness. He got me my first macho latte ever. Oh, that's cute.

And I didn't know what macho was. Are we boring you? Chris, kid in the bed or not in the bed? Never a kid in the bed. I might be from your generation. I wouldn't be. I said to my mom last night, I wouldn't be able to sleep if my baby, was in another room by himself in a crib,

that feels to me like, no, I'm not saying you are. I just, I did. And I'm not saying it's bad, because that's what everyone did at the time. And people, you know, probably think, don't understand what I'm talking about, but I personally wouldn't be able to sleep.

I know exactly what you're talking about. And I think as I go on, I'm busy right now. My kids are two and four. She's a hoot. You know, I think this is something we talk. I think parents should not worry about how other people are going to parent. Like I always find it so strange when we say anything or she says. And then people are like up in a lot.

I get really ripped up about giving my kids raw milk. Oh, really? Ripped up. Just people just, they can't, they don't understand. It's like if you do it's anything, you know. Yeah. But I agree. with you and I've noticed

people could also say something thinking that it's being a compliment. Like I was on a flight. The flight attendant was so nice and said, I just have to tell you that you are

such a good mom and like she was I could tell was surprised and was like, you're such a good mom. You've had your baby with you the entire flight. You're you know, breastfeeding him and taking such good care of him. And she was like, I see other moms and they're just not.

They hand their baby to the nanny, you know, the second they got on the plane. And as nice as it was, it literally, like, had, like, tears in my eyes because I was like, it's nice to hear. But then I started thinking afterwards, like, but you don't know what the other person was going through? What if she literally, the mom, didn't sleep all night? Sure. Wasn't feeling well.

There could be a million things. What if the baby just is getting bored for a second with the mom and it's like nice to have a change of scenery or sitting on a plane for all these hours? Like you just don't know. You don't know what anyone else is going through. So I felt like as nice as it was to hear that, it's also like can we just not judge? Yeah. I mean, what I was kind of getting at earlier was we get that kind of response whenever we talk about any topic that maybe is counter to someone's. way of life, right? But in your world, how have you navigated that many voices coming in and

commenting on what you're doing, not doing, how you're doing it? Do you even read it anymore? No, but I also feel really connected to being a mother. And I feel so deep inside that the way, like about what I'm doing, that like I feel so confident about what I'm doing for me and for my kids. And so I don't, it doesn't make me doubt the way that I'm doing things. And I also like, even with my mom last night, like I could sit there and be like, okay, but let me show you all this research and, you know, get defensive about it. I don't feel that way either. I'm just like.

Just doing your thing. Yeah, this is what works for us. When she's touring, are you primarily working? working on Lemmy? I'm primarily working on Lemmy full time, yeah. So it's a full time situation. How are you guys keeping to come up with these innovative products? What's the, like how do you, how does it happen?

So in the beginning it was a lot of research before we had a community and like customer feedback. Now that we have a big community, like we hear from hundreds, thousands of people every day, whether through Courtney's Instagram or social media or through our community, community. So it really, the product pipeline, it designs itself. You just hear from your community who are looking like this product, Lemmy GLP1, we had thousands of people. Over the last two years, since we launched Lemmy, this is the most requested product of people looking for a natural solution to GLP1 medications. So like all we've heard about over the last three years is OZempec, Mujaro. And obviously they're incredibly effective. But there's a lot of

also a litany of side effects. And there's a lot of people out there, like large swaths of the population who don't want to take a medication for long periods of time. Just because A, it's really expensive. And B, it's a synthetic drug that you're injecting into your body. So for us, all of that in terms of like how we come up with our products, this product in particular, comes from just the feedback loop from our community. What's the one that you guys resonate with the most that you're really like loving every single day? out of all of them. I take Lemmy Chill every day just because I'm a strange.

Hello, like I'm wired. I gave Michael like five Lemmy purrs. I'm like, whoops. It's a Lemmy Per one. It's for the vagina. Men can take it. Oh. Well, maybe I'll take the chill.

Yeah, you can take the chill. Which one are you taking it like your favorite? I alternate. Okay. So I take Lemmy Mama every day, which is our prenatal, that we formulate. because when I was pregnant, we couldn't find the perfect prenatal. So my doctor helped us formulate that one.

I like having one after a treat after I eat something, the gummies. So I'll alternate. I love a probiotic. So I'll take lemmy per or lemmy de bloat as like a probiotic to just take throughout the day. I have a little supplement bag that I travel. with and I keep lemmy see in there which is our sea moss and I do take that which is I think my nutritionist said it was great while I'm breastfeeding so I take that one every day what's the benefits of seamos well it is 92 of the what 102 minerals that your body needs for daily function so there's

antioxidant benefits there's immunity benefits ours also has vitamin D That one sounds really interesting. Yeah. And it's a dropper. And it's sweet. So I just drop it in my mouth and it's like one of my sweet. Or you can put it in a smoothie. Did you have that one when you came on the last time?

We did. You did? You did? I haven't tried that one. I got you. I got you. How will you guys continue to sort of innovate the brand? Are you just really like going to the community?

Is it amongst each other? Is it something that you guys are constantly thinking about? because it sounds like you're really disrupting. The lollipop thing was cool. Like that was, I was like, that's smart. That is all. That was one of the first things that I wanted to do because I used to suck lollipops every day. That's the headline.

Yeah. That sounded crazy. So that actually sounds insane. Why? Why? I mean, I mean, we're going to be. go down this, why do you know? Just, I don't know, like when my husband and I were first together, we just would always have like a lollipop. I was thinking this was like when you were a little girl.

No, this is as an adult. Okay. And so I said, let's do a lollipop that has benefits and is infused with, you know, something. And so it did take us a while. Four and a half years to get it right. formulate it and figure it out and get the consistency good and be able to get collagen in the lollipop. But they're amazing. Because a lot of that's like through the saliva is actually a really good delivery system, right? Yeah. And also one of the tricks was we didn't want, Courtney did not want a flat lollipop. So a lot of those flat little ones that don't feel like a lollipop. Courtney really wanted it like a globe. Like a tootsie pop one. Like a tutzy pop. And that is like from a

manufacturing perspective, that was a challenge. So that was a four and a half. Yeah, we were on a journey there. But we're, I mean, we're obsessed with the lollipops. What's the inner workings of the creative? Like, how do you guys come up with it? Is this like, do you guys like have like a slumber party and figure it out? Or is it just conceptualized over time?

Courtney is the queen of the vibes. There's a lot of vibes being shared every day. There's vibes shared. And also, I think the brand to me, when you know, know what the brand is, it's, it like screams lemmy. If I know it's either like, this doesn't feel lemmy or this is so lemmy because the brand is just, it's such its own thing. And I think part of what it is going back to the lollipops and the gummies is like it started as making wellness and taking supplements fun and it being playful and a treat type of thing.

that you could look forward to every day instead of, ugh, I got to take my 20 supplements or whatever. So it's just supposed to be, so I think that's why we started with it, with gummies and then lollipops. And obviously it is science-backed and a serious brand, you know, that we have like supplements and capsules and things to take. But it's...

We have a huge capsule business. So if you don't want a gummy, we have the capsule version of it with de-blood and purr. And people do love capsules, but we know that the younger audience, like they start their wellness journey in gummies. I mean, it is like a treat. Yeah. So what happens if you start taking the new GLP one daily? Like what, like what will your body start to do?

So it's three clinically studied ingredients that support weight management. So burning visceral fat. And then there's appetite control. So curbing sugar and carb cravings. And arguably like, like the most important is it increases GLP1 hormone naturally in your body. So it's a three. Without having to take a synthetic. Without having to take a synthetic drug. So we know that 70% of people who are taking GLP1 medications stop after a year because of side effects, because they don't want to take a drug, because they're also extremely expensive. So people are looking for these natural solutions. And I think one of the challenges in supplements is people are using GLP1 as like marketing jargon everywhere.

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The holidays are coming up, which is wild. I mean, oh my God, so much. One thing I do, though, for every holiday in the fall is I make my mom's pumpkin roll. It's on the blog. You've probably seen it if you've been a reader or a listener for a long time. and one thing that makes the recipe very creamy and delicious is the specific cream cheese that I use. So I use Philadelphia cream cheese in this recipe. If there's anyone that knows creamy, it's Philadelphia cream cheese. This cream cheese is really versatile and it can be used to enhance any meal, snack or anything in between. So what I do is I make a cream cheese frosting.

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Use our link to save 20% off at get keon.com slash skinny. Again, that's 20% off at get keon kionk-I-O-N.com slash skinny. I have to ask you about something that's really random, but I, I want to know how you think about traditions. I'm really wanting to make traditions for my kids. I see on the show how you take Christmas really seriously. I've gotten inspired. I've like screenshoted some things you do for Halloween.

Like it seems like there's a lot of thought around it. I'm assuming you got it from your mother. Like have you always been like that? And how do you like get ready for each holiday? So I think my life was like that growing up. Yeah. And then I think, and then it went away for, I would say, my 20s. Except for like, you know, Kendall and Kylie were younger.

So like we, my mom continued the Halloween parties. Kendall's birthday is November 3rd. So we always would do big things for Christmas. And those traditions kept up. But then I think one of such a beautiful thing about having kids is being able to see, you almost get to experience it through their eyes all over again. Those traditions are important to me like I always do pumpkin carving or, you know, there's the certain things that we always do. And even now in our house with all of our kids, all the seven kids, we'll do

family dinner every Sunday night. And we do the peek and pit of the day at the table, which is what we, my dad, that was one of our dad's traditions. And then we've done that. And so we do it with our kids. So yeah, I think traditions are very important. And when I saw, and Michael's going to be like, what are you talking about? But you're like about to give birth and you have your scrapbooks out. Oh, yes. I'm like, oh my God, I also got a scrapbook. the way you scrapbook is so intense. What is the process? Are you like actually putting the photos in and doing it yourself?

Yes. So I'm not a scrapbooker. I've never done this in my life. But I did it for our one year wedding anniversary. And I thought it was going to be something that was really fast. And then I printed out all. of these photos I went through since we were together all the photos and then printed them all out and then I've always saved like do you guys save hotel keys and things like that if you're

and stuff like that yeah exactly or like something little special things like that so I put all of those in I'm not anywhere near done and now it's so much work it's so much work I'm like I still I'm doing my firstborn's baby book still. Same. I mean, I'm still, I barely did them. Like, Kim is amazing at doing baby books and all of that type of stuff. What's similar generation? Did your mom, like, keep the, like, remember the old books with the pictures?

My mom has a shitload of those. So I have those. Your mom is amazing, though. Chris is amazing in keeping all those memories. She just gave me, like a hard drive. And she said it's all my grandmother's, home video that she would take, but now I have to find the time to go watch it. It's amazing how meticulous. I think that's one of my favorite things about watching your show

is that to see all the little details from the fridge to like the pumpkins that you do on Halloween, like cascading up the, I love, that's my favorite part of it. It's like everything is so thought out, every little detail. It's a sickness. I like it. I like it. Pinterest goes a long way. Okay. If you're not on Pinterest, it's so fun. And it can give you some great ideas and help.

It like helps my brain put it all together of what the vibes are. Does there like an inner family competition start to happen between who can do? Yeah, you don't know about the competition. I don't know. I just assume it would get competitive if people start. you know like this is my to call it. Yeah, this is my, I'm going to have this. Yeah, all the time. Like, do you have to claim a color?

You, yeah, if you do anything similar, like for gift wrap every Christmas, we'll think, like, what gift wrap, everyone does, like, their own and it's like all their gifts are wrapped like that, and it's always heated. I think you've won a lot of them, though. I have. I'm, like, always like, look, I like, I like the gift for. I like to look at the ribbon. I like to look at the holiday stuff.

That's like my favorite part. No, it's an eldest child thing. We're all eldest child. Eldest child's the best child. Are you the oldest? I'm the youngest. Oh, sorry I said that, Simon. Yeah, no, it's fine.

No, no, no, it's totally fine. I'm sorry that happened to you. The oldest does get the most attention, though. I felt like I got the youngest gets the most attention. Yeah, I guess you got the most from my dad. Yeah. So did I. Would you also get the most oversight?

It's almost like, because I have two younger sisters and I feel like I was held to a stricter standard. Does that make sense? It was like the slowly over time the punishments would get. And I think you learn things with the oldest that then you're like, I don't want to do that again. Right. Like my youngest, not my baby, but my youngest has the least phone time. He kind of gets like, he got the video game like major role. you know, like, because I learned.

How do you think about technology with your children? Because that's something that we're talking about a lot. Now we bring our kids with us sometimes at dinner. And I don't want them to sit on, not to throw shade, but I just don't want them sitting there on the iPad. But they do sometimes, John. They just don't think it's good for their brain. I agree.

And I think like we used to, I remember if it was time to go to dinner, it would be like, grab the iPad. Don't forget the iPad. Don't forget the iPad. And now I'm like, No, no phones. Like, let's not bring, let's have a dinner and actually look at each other and talk and, you know.

I want to interview the man that wrote The Anxious Generation. Yes. And I like, I know his rules were saying no technology. What did he say? He said he doesn't, I could be wrong, but I think he said no technology before 16 in terms of like they can't their own phone. Yeah. Because it changes their brain. I haven't gotten, which is why I'm going to read the book and then talk to him.

I said high school, maybe 14, you can have a phone, but then no social media until 16, something like that. Specifically for girls, too. But we, I mean, because we, Lauren and I did not get, we didn't get smartphones like Apple phones or whatever until we got out of college. By the way, you have a Wildcat. Same. You knew. Nice. Did you go to the same school?

Yeah. Oh. Yeah. Fabulous. Gilling over there, went there too. But anyways, and so we went through that whole time. without all that stuff. It was like you had to put the album from Facebook and you load every single picture that came

on the digital camera. Yeah. That was a little dicey. Yeah. But we didn't have all that. I never had Facebook. It came out the year that I got to college and it was like the only way you could sign up was if you had a college email.

Oh, okay. And then everyone would go out and take the digital camera and every shot and they would upload the whole, I mean, now I'll think about people like pick one and edit. This whole thing would just be out there on the loose. Wow. Crazy. From the night. Yeah, I had to scrub.

I had to do a deep. scrap of the Facebook. Oh my gosh. We didn't have all that. And so I think about it a lot now because our kids are growing up with it. And it could be a tool. But when I go speakers and I will say, like, are you a consumer or is it a tool? If you're just a mindless consumer, that could be dangerous.

As much as I'd love to hear about your Facebook days, I need to get down to business with some skincare and beauty. Can you guys each answer these questions? Because these are questions from the audience about beauty. skin that we have to ask, especially on the show. Please. Favorite skincare hack? I love guasha.

Okay. I'm a big guasha girl. I would say less is more on product. And my daughter makes the greatest masks, like the rice, rice, kind of, I don't know what she does, but I do them and she tells me these are tightening and lifting and they're really good. There's a flaxseed. Flaxseed one.

That's next endeavor. That's my hack. Okay. Oh, mine sunscreen, just daily sunscreen. Not fancy, but. Is there a brand? I bought this Japanese brand and I do not know the name of it, but it goes on so smooth. I'll find the name, but daily sunscreen.

Okay, you have to text me. I love Jan Marini. Jan Marini, great brand. Do you guys have AMPM skincare routines, or is it just like not that serious? For me, not that serious. Not that serious. Mine's very, if I do guasha, which I try, I do it in the morning. The only difference in the morning is my sunscreen.

Simple. Keep it simple. When you glam, will you do sunscreen or will you do skincare before you glam or do you just go straight to glam? I do my skin care and then I go to glam. And when you ask, if you're asking for glam, like say you're, you're doing this today. Is there specifics that you like? Like, will you be like, I want like a natural glowy look?

Or are you more like, I want a bunch of eye shadow? Like, do you have a recipe? I do not. And today, the only thing I said is I've been on tour. I haven't put on makeup once this whole summer because, like I said, keep it easy and simple on tour. And I wouldn't do makeup at all. And so I said, I just don't want to feel like I have crazy amounts of makeup on.

So just keep it fresh and light. It's pretty. It's fresh. It's light. Thank you. Soft. I can't ask you about makeup. Please.

Yeah, that's fine. But you have a nighttime skincare routine? No. Like water and like a basic face wash. Nothing exciting. Michael, should we ask you about your makeup routine? Because Michael had to get a Zit covered today for the first time he's ever worn makeup. I'm in full glam right now.

It does look at you have full glam when you came in. Just a little dot right there. She's like, bro, she's like, we're going to have five people on the podcast if you don't. He told me not to tell anyone. Whoops. How'd you do this from a corny one? Okay. One product that you will never leave the house with could be like a lip gloss, a wellness thing, something.

Listerine strips for me. That is a fact. Listerine strips. Yeah, I have three in either pocket right now. I am ready. Okay. Well, after that quad latte. Before you go, it.

It says we're doing a what's in my bag. Is that correct? It is. Okay. Can we do a what's in my bag? Sure. Do we have Courtney's bag? I think it's in the other room.

And I guess also we have a code for you guys. You guys generously gave us a 20% off code for all things, Lemmy. So they can get any product. Any product. Okay. Where are you starting? It depends on your journey, but I would say you could start with sleep. Okay.

Because who doesn't? Even if you don't need it, if you're a good, sleeper if you're traveling, like Lemmy Sleep is so good for Jetleg. I like the opposite of what you're going to say. I like Lemmy Focus. That's my favorite. I love Lemmy Focus, too. I do have to say, I just am a fan of the brand.

You gave me some a long time ago. I think when you guys first launched, and it tastes delicious. This is weird, but like the gummies, like, girthy. I don't know if that's right word. I don't know if that's really good. It has a chew. It's like, it's like, it's not like a little. It's not like a limpedic gummy.

Yeah, it's a meaty. It's a meaty gummy. It's a meaty gummy. It feels like it packs a punch. Yeah, by design. Yeah, and I feel like it is a treat. The bottle's beautiful. I love it.

I'm a fan. Glow is a great one to start with. That's a good one for the audience. I think they'll like glow. Yeah, hair, skin, and nails. Because it's peach. It has a great flavor. And it's hair, skin and nails.

Who doesn't want that? You gave me the focus, and then our producer, Taylor, ate all of them. He ate the whole thing. They are delicious. Yeah. No, but he literally ate the whole thing at once. Like in one sitting. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, right. He's too. You are focused. I hope you were very focused. I was. I trust me. Between his Panda Express,

orange chicken and his flaming hot Cheetos, he ate all the vitamins. Okay, so code skinny for Lemmy. They can go to lemmy.com. Lemmylive.com. Let me live.com. We'll link it. And then can we do,

I didn't even ask you guys this, but can we do like a giveaway of all? all Courtney and Simon's favorites. Sure, Cam. Okay. You guys follow at Lemmy on Instagram and then tell us your favorite part. I'm sure there's a lot of this podcast on my latest post at Lauren Bostic. And do we have what's in her bag?

Oh, that bag. It's her little Belenziaga bag. But we could do that bag too, either one. The tiny little Blenciaga rider bag. Purse. A tiny purse. That makes me want that bag now with my name on it. That's cute.

Really cute. Thank you. Michael, I need matcha in bed, apple cider vinegar. She's going to be like, Courtney said. We sleep with our dog in bed, which I feel like is our version of a baby. Yeah, the dog and the dog moves around. Is right next to me. It's good for your gut. We used to do the dogs in bed. I'm obsessed with the kids and the dogs. It's a lot.

relegated to a sliver on the side. When Phil and I have a baby, I'm sure the dog will get the boot. Is a baby in the future? Two years. Two years. Two years. That's going to be. exciting. You're going to be such a good dad. I hope. Phil's going to be a great dad. And I think I will love bomb the child, but also like not be good with discipline. Should we give a code for a sniff? Sure. Sure. I think the code is skinny too for sniff as well. Okay. And what candle should

start with? I think they should start with half baked harvest since it's Courtney's favorite. Or Christmas. Or the holiday candle, which comes out in like two weeks. Oh. Hey, guys, this isn't. So I could have obviously curated a what's in my bag, but I didn't. We like a real. I'm going to show you for real what's in my bag. And this is just my purse that lives in my car all the time. And so when I go somewhere, there's a phone charger.

There is a lip glass, you beauty, and a skin lip liner. We need to know the colors. I'm sorry. I have to know the colors. And I don't even know what they are. So let's see. This is Skin by Kim, lip liner, nude six. Okay.

This U-Beauty plasma lip compound. I don't think it says a color, but it's a peachy. Okay. Then I have a bracelet that I took off. And actually someone made me this and it has all my kids' birthstones and me and my husband. So all seven kids and me and my husbands and I thought it was so thoughtful. That is so cute. And then my wallet, which has all my credit cards, a little cash, my driver's license.

And Simon must have stuck this in there. Do they have those, like the little samples like that or is that a sample? How did she sell? I did stick it in there because we're on the show to talk about it. Let me purve vaginal probiotic gummies. That's us. What the hell is this? Yeah.

No, but men can take them and you can explain. Well, it's a probiotic, so it will take care of. It might help your premature ejaculation. Yeah, it's going to help everything. You're going to be all. set. You'll be purring. You'll be fine. He's talked about that on the show. And do you want to say with this? Well, this is, yeah, this is the, you know, the lemmy perfor to balance your vaginal microbiome. Why don't you put the size is? Oh, this is a sample pack. Sample pack. Yeah, yeah, for three days.

What's in your pocket? You can pull it out, Simon. Let's do it. Oh, the only thing I already took it at when you guys were chatting. It's my list. Oh, I thought you're going to put all the. Oh, I would have put this in there. Let me GLP one daily. Are you kidding? No, I would have. I would have. I. I did sneak that. I will, I did sneak that into her purse. I'm sure everyone knows where to find both of you, but pimp yourself out. Tell us where everyone can follow the code. You want to try a lemmy per? You gotta try one.

You gotta try one. The flavors are really good. The flavors are. Yes, the dosage is too. Yep. Would you like to try anybody? Oh, here comes my fourth dose of the vaginal pill. Yeah, yeah, take care of your kitty.

High apple. See, I know you ate like. They really are so good. Yeah. Thank you. Nice and thick. They remind me when you're a kid, but like healthy. Because the stuff our parents are giving us those.

Yeah. Gushers. Flintstones. I will still eat a gusher. I love gushers. You actually have gusher's in this office. Yeah, I know. My needs like a gusher.

And maybe a dunker. Do you remember dunker? Yes. That would be so good. Stuff squirting out. Yes, squirting out of the vitamins. Nistalgia. You need that.

Okay. Where can everyone find you both? I'm sure they already follow up. At Simon Huck and Lemmy. I'll be hiding in my house. You can't find me anywhere. Thank you guys for taking the time. Thank you both.

Thank you both. That was so much fun. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you to the crew. Thank you guys.

That was awesome. Simon and Courtney gave you guys a special code for Lemmy and sniff. You can use Code Skinny for 20% off all items. I would personally start with Lemmy Focus. and the sniff candles, you can't go wrong. I mean, they smell so good. I have like a couple in my office. Be sure to use code lemmy ice at shopskinyconfidential.com. Grab the travel roller. It's one of my favorite products we've ever done. It's so good and so cold and seriously tightens your skin. Lemmy ice at shop skinnyconfidential.com. Enjoy.