The Bossticks - Lauryn's Weight Loss Journey & How To Implement Tactics That Work For You

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Back in action with another solo episode. Today we are going to talk about how. how I have lost 50 pounds postpartum. I'm still having a journey with this whole experience. I'm not quite where I want to be yet, but I'm on my way. And I've picked up a lot of tricks of the trade that I want to share in this episode that I think will help a lot of postpartum mothers or just anyone who just wants to take it to the next level with their fitness, their food, their nutrition. And I'm also going to give you some little hacks that I do on a daily basis that make a big difference. I am here with the one and only Katie, my assistant, my executive assistant,
Starting point is 00:01:14 who runs my life. She's back. What's up? She dressed up today for video. We did our makeup today. So yeah, feeling better than the last two times when you sprang it on me. I looked like a troll. The last couple episodes that I've done solo, I just said, hey, you're coming on the podcast. Today you have a curled lash, a gloss lip. Yeah, we're ready to go. Like, YouTube. Good for fucking you.
Starting point is 00:01:40 So basically what we did is we collected a bunch of questions. Katie's going to ask them. And we're just going to talk through it. And I think this is fun to do with Katie specifically because she runs my life. And she is one that really witnesses everything that's gone on. She's seen the whole excursion. It's been, like I said, a journey. And I think she's just a great person to bounce ideas and thoughts off of.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah, I know. Again, with the hard hitting questions, you guys always come through with some good ones about like everything postpartum regarding workouts, protein intake, and this 50 pound weight loss, which is insane. I can't even believe that like you have. that on you. I had it on me. Having a baby some rough shit. It is some rough shit. And I think that the thing that no one talks about is that, yes, you're so grateful to have this beautiful baby. But you simultaneously can also be having other feelings. I think that it's, it's not okay to just say you can only be
Starting point is 00:02:45 grateful. You also can be stressed like me that with Zaza, I gained 60 pounds. With towns, I feel like I gained like 45 or 50. I don't even know the exact. I stopped weighing myself. But of course, when I had both my babies, I was so excited. But also, it's a lot of pressure. There's a lot of pressure to bounce back. There's a lot of pressure to look a certain way. And I also think with Zaza, for me, it was jarring because I didn't read any books about it. I didn't look at any Pinterest board. I didn't really, I didn't really even talk to a lot of mothers about postpartum. I just, wanted to lead with my intuition and see how I felt. And so I remember coming home from the hospital with Zaza and my stomach still looked like I was eight months pregnant. And it's a mind fuck. So in this
Starting point is 00:03:35 episode, we're going to talk about, one, how my recovery with towns was completely different and what I did and just dive into it. So Katie, I'll let you kick it off. Yes. Okay. So let's start with when you came home from the hospital. Everything I'm sure is like shaky. and loose and like, you know. And I guess how often were you able to exercise, if at all, right off the bat? When I came home from the hospital, I this time tried not to even focus on anything but just enjoying the baby because my first postpartum experience was so gnarly and jarring. I had such bad postpartum depression and anxiety that this one I tried to just really put my focus on the baby and not on sort of how I looked.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Right. That being said, I still wanted a plan. I'm a person that likes to have a strategy, but I also, and you know this, like to protect my peace. So it's a balance. Right. And the first thing that I did to even attempt to feel back to my normal self is I did belly binding.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And I had someone come to my house. Her company is called belly binding. B.E. L-L-I and she gave me the most beautiful relaxing massage with chimes and oils and it was lymphatic drainage. And then she wrapped my stomach in a binding. And I think that I really liked that because like you said, everything is loose. Like your stomach feels so loose that there's some kind of security in having everything wrapped. And also just for lymphatic purposes, I think it's a great.
Starting point is 00:05:22 way that's soft sort of to feel like you're doing something but not something too harsh. Right. There's a lot of cultures. You guys can look into it if you Google the skinny confidential belly binding that do this and they swear by it. What I've noticed is it just sort of helps everything move back into place. You do have to sleep in it. I also breast fat in it. I just thought that was a good way that was soft and feminine to sort of start the process. of doing anything. Another thing that I always do after any kind of surgery or anything that is harsh on my body is walk. So I don't even, I'm not attempting any kind of workout at this point. The doctor says you can't work out for six weeks. And also, you don't want to work out for six
Starting point is 00:06:11 weeks because if you do, you can get dialysis something. It's where the stomach splits. That sounds terrible. Right. So you just want to listen to the doctor. And my doctor told me, wait six weeks. So for me, it was just walking and being gentle with myself, eating a lot of warming foods and just taking it really easy and being with the baby. And I suggest for six weeks not putting pressure on yourself. There's really nothing you can do besides be present with the baby if you want a belly bind to go for it and walk. Another great thing that I loved postpartum like six weeks after to just get my lymphatic system to wake up is the chi machine. You put your feet in it and it like shakes your feet. Oh yeah. It's so good. And it automatically relaxes your nervous system.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It's such a beautiful way to stimulate blood flow and circulation without being too harsh. So as you can see all these things like I try not to overwhelm myself. It was just soft stuff. I also went in the red light, walked outside, got morning sunlight, drank a lot of water, and chilled. Then it's six weeks. And you know how I'm, I'm intense. I'm as soft as I took it. Then at six weeks, literally the six weeks mark. Right. It was, and you know this because my calendar, it was right back to the gym. Yes. That was weights. Correct. That was weights. So I lifted weights my whole entire pregnancy with towns. I did not do that with Zaza. With Zaza, I did Pilates. And looking back on both the pregnancies, I did not gain as much weight. And I also had an easier
Starting point is 00:07:54 recovery mentally and physically with towns. Which, and that's definitely correlated. I mean, it's got to be. It has to be. I also up my protein so much with towns. There's things that I did, I didn't have any postpartum depression or anxiety with towns. Now, is that because it's a boy and a girl? I don't know. But I will say the entire pregnancy, and you see my calendar, I was lifting weights with towns. So at six weeks, I went right back to lifting weights, but we didn't go back to like heavy lifting. We went back to like, again, soft lifting. So not going super hard, obviously not doing a lot of ab work, just implementing weights four days a week. And then I tried to take my steps from 5K to 6 to 7 to 8 to 10. Like as much, I try to aim for 10, but like sometimes life gets in the way
Starting point is 00:08:51 and I could just do five. You just try to do your best. Another thing that I started doing at six weeks was getting in cold showers. So cold plunging, cryotherapy, just getting cold. A lot of people would say maybe this is too soon. For me, it worked. I even would jump in the ocean. We were in San Diego and I would go jump in the ocean and do a lot of grounding on the beach. And I thought getting cold after six weeks just really tightened my skin to my body. I did a lot of beach walks. And then I did some Melissa Wood Health online and worked out with Kim Kelly, who has an amazing app. Here's the thing. You don't have to have a trainer. You don't have to do this crazy meal plan. A lot of these things are free. You can go outside every single morning and
Starting point is 00:09:41 walk. You can go on YouTube and find some weight workouts that are free. So I just don't think that there's any excuse not to move your body. And a lot of new mothers will say, well, I want to be with my baby. And I understand that, but I think to show up fully for me for my kids, I have to have an hour a day. There's this study that just came out that says that kids that see their mother exercising, most likely will end up exercising when they're older. So for me, it's about being a good role model for my kids and being mentally stable. Like with Saza, I was feeling not stable. I was having so much anxiety and feeling so depressed. And I don't feel like I was able to show up for her as I wanted to. So I think when you do find that workout that kicks your serotonin and dopamine into gear,
Starting point is 00:10:34 it's really important. And what I've found with lifting weights and why I can't shut the fuck up about it is because I will be having the worst day ever and I will go in and in 30 minutes, I will even out. I can feel it. I can feel my hormones evening out. I can feel the dopamine. I just feel better. And I don't know if it's like, I mean, I'm sure it's something scientific with testosterone, whatever it is. It's definitely hormonal. Yeah, I just, if you can do that by finding a gym, it doesn't have to be fancy, where you can sort of like lift heavier and heavier as you go on and you can build muscle and burn fat, you're going to feel great. 100%. So incorporating exercise, you said you're giving yourself an hour a day. Was that in your experience typically the mornings and the evenings or did it just really depend?
Starting point is 00:11:26 I gave myself more than that. What I did is on my calendar, I have an hour walk in the morning. morning. And what I did is I would put my kids in the stroller and go. Michael comes with me usually, which is really fun because we're able to connect. I put my phone away. And then I have this app called Pacer that counts my steps. I actually just got a whoop. A whoop. And so I'm also tracking my heart rate to make sure that I'm in like certain zones. But I didn't do this at first. Okay. I was just walking 10K steps a day in the morning. I'd walk for an hour. And then I would add another hour of exercise. And I did this every single day starting at the six week
Starting point is 00:12:07 point. And I think for anyone who says they don't have time, like I said, this is therapy. This is being efficient. This is being a good role model. This is life changing for mental and physical. It's important for sure. I mean, I, and it doesn't have to be an hour. Listen, if you only have 30 minutes, that's fine. It's about making time for yourself and being thoughtful about it and showing up for yourself day after day. I look at it like brushing my teeth now. Working out for me is just like, that's what I do. It doesn't seem like a chore anymore. And I think when you habit stack it like that and you integrate it into your calendar and you have someone who hold you accountable, whether that's a trainer or a friend or your partner,
Starting point is 00:12:51 whatever that is, it makes a huge difference in my opinion in your sleep, in your attitude, in your business dealings, in your success. And that's why another reason I just can't stop with weightlifting because it's really changed my life. And I've had such an easier recovery. Right. And I know where you're going to take this next. So I'm going to jump ahead. And obviously everyone knows when you're working out
Starting point is 00:13:15 and you're trying to lose weight or you're trying to build muscle even. You have to support that with a diet of some kind, not even diet in the sense of like restricting anything, but some type of healthy meal, healthy routine with food and water, of course, to backfill all of your hard work. What was your go-to for food? My life is so chaotic and so crazy in the best way that I need someone to tell me where to stand. It's kind of like that really successful CEO that wears the same shirt every day because it's like decision overload. He just wants, it's like decision. He just wants to make a decision. For me, I just want someone to tell me where to stand when it comes to eating. But I would
Starting point is 00:14:01 caveat that with, I want to eat what I want. Of course. Two. So I, so it's this balance. Has to be sustainable. Right. I want to eat food I like, but I want to be told where to stand. So I was in this, like, kind of weird place where it's like, I want to eat what I like, but I also want to be told what to do. But at the same time, I also like routine. And for me, like, I'll eat the same fucking thing every single day. Oh, that's so impressive. If I'm, if I'm not on vacation, it's a different story. We're talking about at home. So I called my friend Eric at the flexible diet coach. He tells you to tell him all the foods you love. So you could be like, I love chips and salsa. I love steak. I love margaritas, whatever you, like I said, I love sourdough. You're non-negotiables. Just things I love. Also, that.
Starting point is 00:14:52 like it could be really healthy too. I love blueberries, whatever it is. I gave him a list of like 20 things I love. And then he put together three plans for me that where he counted my macros. So I know exactly how to measure the food. I have never felt hungry. In fact, I'm not, I'm not telling people to feel hungry when they're losing weight. I don't think that you should feel hungry losing weight. I've lost 50 pounds. I've never been, there's not never been a day. that I have gone to bed feeling hungry. When we moved to Texas, I got so serious about everything in my house. I went on like a rampage.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I wanted everything to be as clean and non-toxic as possible. I just felt like it was a moment to shift our entire energy. And one of the things that I did was I switched my dog food. Okay. So I wanted them to have real, fresh, healthy dog food. And I was looking for a brand that was wet. and I wanted something that had a whole meat and vegetables, and I wanted something that just had a lot of nutritional value. So enter the farmer's dog. Real food. Okay. Feed your dog, the farmer's dog. This is
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Starting point is 00:20:35 Well, I think we all know starvation is not the move. I think that's like, we can probably just say that across the board, that that's not the way to lose weight. Well, it's healthily. And listen, like, there's, like, years ago there's been days where I would fast and like, it would always backfire. I would always eat more than I wanted to eat. Like, I'm always full every single day.
Starting point is 00:20:56 So I think working with Eric has been so amazing what I do, and I'll tell you exactly. what I eat is I eat the same thing every single day when I'm at home. You know what I. I know what it is. Yeah. But when I'm on vacation, I just went on vacation for a week. I ate bread. I ate pasta. I ate croissants. I ate pizza. But now I eat a shitload of protein. So instead of eating carbs all day, I'm waking up eating three poached eggs. And so when I have the croissant, I don't want the whole thing. Right. So that's what's proteins. done for me is it's crowded out so many carbs. Before I would go on vacation and just eat carbs. You can eat a lot of carbs. Oh yeah. Like in one sitting compared to a lot of protein.
Starting point is 00:21:41 But if you eat protein when you're on vacation, you still eat the carbs. You just don't eat as many. Right. So what I've done with Eric is I've fallen in love with protein. And I really have, I was eating fucking deer for breakfast. No way. She'd like cube it up and like just eat it right off the pan. I was eating liver. Like I love meat now. And I never love. loved protein like this until two years ago. And I think it's because with the weightlifting and the more I eat protein, the more I crave it. And also what amino acids and meat has done for my hair and my nails and my skin, I just, you can't like, I'm like, I'm in love with this. So now my body wants meat. It's the weirdest thing ever. Anyways, I think my theory is like the more
Starting point is 00:22:26 you eat protein, the more your body wants it. I don't know. Well, yeah, I think it's especially, you're giving your body what it needs because you're exerting yourself exercising. You need those things to replenish what you've exerted. So, I mean, it all makes sense. Yeah, I think maybe with Pilates, it was like, Pilates is amazing, but I wasn't mixing it with the weightlifting. So I wasn't, I didn't maybe have the same appetite for protein. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:50 You're definitely not burning as many calories. Yeah. I know that for a fact. Yeah. So what I eat all the time is. And this is what we've worked out with him is. I will wake up. I will have all my hydration things like lemon water, supplements, electrolytes, you know, just kind of like all my like wellnessy stuff. And then I will have a coffee
Starting point is 00:23:18 with raw full fat milk. I used to do almond, but I'm on a raw full fat milk kick with ice. and then I will have eggs with it now. Before I used to just have the coffee, but now I'll eat eggs with the coffee because I feel like my blood sugar doesn't drop if I have a protein with it. So I'll have two sunny side up eggs and then two egg whites with microgreens on top and hot sauce. Yum. It's perfect. It gets the job done.
Starting point is 00:23:54 if I'm in a huge rush and I have a lot of stuff going on, which usually I don't because Katie knows my mornings are so important, I'll do like a hard boiled egg. Right. If I'm out, I'll do poached eggs. So it's like I just, I mix it up. I don't like my eggs being cooked in oil and I don't like them being cooked in butter because I want to save my butter for later, which we'll get to. I know what that goes on. So after I do that, I will go work out. I'll train for an hour. And then I'll come home. And when I'm hungry, I will do a big bowl of ground beef, which you said was weird. Why is that weird? No, it's not weird. It was weird when it was on the floor at the office in a temperware.
Starting point is 00:24:44 In the conference room, just like this lonely bowl full of brown meat. I was like, is that your beef on the ground? I will get my beef from... a very specific place. I like it from force of nature if I'm buying it online or I go to the farmer's market every single Sunday and I get delicious beef. And I sex it up. I'll put kimchi on it for my gut. I'll put spicy carrots from the farmer's market. I chop jalapenos on top of it, microgreens. I do like Frank's hot sauce. I even do like sometimes a mustard sauce or salsa verde. Like, I just make it like fun. Interesting to eat.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah. And I swear to God, after every workout, it's all I want is a big bowl of beef. If you told me, like, you can have a big bowl of pasta. My body wants the beef. Like, it knows it gets the beef. Yeah. And then I am full from that. And when I mean full, I am.
Starting point is 00:25:44 It's a lot of beef. I've seen it. It's like at least two cups of beef. It's about five ounces to be specific. Okay. I was going to say. I didn't know if you had exactly what the measurement is, but it's a big ass bowl of beef. It's a big bowl of beef. It is. And then after that, I'm not hungry for a while. And then I will have a chroma matcha. It's good. Two scoops, 10 grams of protein. It is so
Starting point is 00:26:11 satisfying. First of all, I'm getting protein. I'm getting a little kick of caffeine. And if I'm having a long day, like today, I'll do an espresso shot with a cinnamon stick because cinnamon balances your blood sugar. Delicious. If it's a Saturday or Sunday and I'm being lazy, I don't have the espresso shot. But the matcha is more protein. It gives me a kick. It's full of all these antioxidants. I also like peak tea.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You can't go wrong with peak tea macha or chroma. They're both delicious. But the chroma has the protein. Right, which again, extra like cherry on top after the big ass bowl of beef. Yeah. It's like two hours or three hours from the bowl of beef. It's a good like snack later. It's a midday thing to cut a craving if you're getting one.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah. And then I will have, I just like have this all the time. I'll either have tuna fish with chopped. This is so detailed. Chopped cornishins like the little pickles. Yeah, those are good. And spicy mustard. a little bit of avocado mayo, just a little bit, because I want my butter for later, my fat.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And chili macha, maca. No, chili matcha. Maka powder? Nope, chili matcha is what it's called. It's like a chili paste. That tuna fish, one can. Or I will order a burger and take the bun off. Right, which I always copy you whenever we've eaten together.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I get the same thing. good. Nothing's better than a burger. You chop it up with jalapeno. You wrap it and lettuce. You get raw red onion. You do tomato. You do mustard. Everything. It hits the spot. Yes. It's delicious. And then, which is so fun, I have my piece of sourdough. I have to have, I've had a piece of sourdough every single day during this weight loss period. And I'll do a tablespoon of Vital Farms butter. And it's such a treat at the end of the day. Like, I've done my workout. I've walked my 10K steps. I've eaten so much protein that having that piece of toast is just like, it just really is the cherry on top of the day. And Zaza and I call it butter toast. We have it together in bed. Michael Bostick
Starting point is 00:28:37 has a fucking aneurysm. He can't stand toast in bed. Crumbs everywhere. That kind of gives me the heby-jee-jee's thinking about it too. Don't worry. Slim and Boone pick it up. Yes, they will. vacuum cleaners. So Zaza and I crunch so loud in bed at like 730. We eat our toast. And I'll usually have a chroma cranberry hydration electrolyte drink, which is my favorite. I have it every single day. You can use Code Skinny if you want. I would like go by the matcha and the cranberry hydration. It's so good. The best part of it is when I am winding down in bed, I have a magnesium powdered water I have that's really good. And I have two bars of huge. chocolate. And that's on the plant. I'm sorry. I feel like I'm getting. That's a lot. I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:29:23 do you know the number, the gram amount of protein that you try to hit every day? He has it down for me. You guys, I want to say it's like, it's got to be high. Like 140-ish. I don't know. It's high. Yeah. I want to say it's between 120 and 140. Yeah. At the end of the day, I go to bed. I'm full. I'm done. I feel like I got a treat. I also got a like a carb. And you also have to remember, I am in a weight loss phase right now. I'm losing weight. I gained a lot of weight. I'm losing it. And I also have goals for myself that I want to hit. And so I have no problem having routine around my food. And it's also so easy. Like, everyone in the house knows what I'm eating. Like it's just, it's, it's easy. It's, what's the word I'm looking for? It's like robotic. Right. Now, when I go on vacation and I go on
Starting point is 00:30:17 vacation and I go to L.A. and I go to New York for work all the time, I am not adhering to these strict guidelines. So I never feel deprived. Exactly. And you're not going to ball out on, you know, animals to out fries and like a large pizza by or so. Or I'll be so, like, you've seen me so hung over one day and I'll be like I need in and out. Well, of course. And I'm not, like, I don't feel bad about it. Ever. No, because like 90% of your diet is you're getting what you need. That 10% is, it's like out the window. And also what's so great about Eric, too, is you can add greens to anything. So like if I want to have like a salad with my beef, that's fine. If I want to add a bunch of like micro greens and arugula to my eggs, that's fine with my burger. If I want to wrap it in a huge piece of butter lettuce, like that that like kind of doesn't count the greens. So if I want to have greens. And then another thing that I have almost every day is a big cup of bone broth. That's good. That's super satiating. It's so satiating. And I think, listen, this is what works for me.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I'm going to continue to do this. If you're someone who doesn't like routine and doesn't like the same thing every single day, Eric also does three different plans. You have three different plans. I just like to use the same plan over and over. I mean, that's incredible. You can do that. I'm way too psycho with my food to eat the same thing over and over.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Well, you also are someone who loves to cook in the kitchen. Yeah. So I could understand that. And I hate leftovers. You gained 50 pounds tomorrow. Oh, I would be on a strict diet. I'd eat a bowl of beef, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Yeah, so this is where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yes. I'm still, like, I'm still, I'm probably like 12 pounds away from where I want to be. Also, I should say that the sourdough that I eat is made by Katie. She's a sourdough expert. Go to her Instagram at Hangary Hobson. You guys, she makes sourdough from scratch. Now, if you can't get Hangary Hobson's fucking. raisin cinnamon sourdough or fresh rosemary sourdough that has like the imprint of the flower on it.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I would recommend Google the skinny confidential sourdough bread and there's my favorite bread that you can buy online. It's called bread seriously. It is good and it's gluten free. It's gluten free. It just doesn't even taste any different. Truthfully, it's so good. Well, your bread is like insane. In fact, I forgot to ask you to make me some for San Diego. I know. We need to. I'll only. ship me some. Can you ship me some? I can try. Can you actually? We can figure that out. I've never tried that. So we can figure it out. Okay. But yeah. So I'm a creature of habit. My life is so chaotic. It's I need, I need routines. I need systems. I need to be told where to stand. And this is what works for me. And I'm sorry for like literally dissecting every single second of what I'm meeting down to the cornishin.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Those are so good. But this has worked really well for me. And like I said, I haven't had a postpartum depression or anxiety. time. And I think the release of dopamine from the weights mixed with the up levels of protein have made such a big difference. And I haven't felt really stressed. I noticed with lifting weights too, my skin is tighter to my body. Like when I was losing weight with Zaza because I had to lose 60 pounds, it was a different, the skin wasn't as it wasn't as taunt. I think that we all have this image of bulkiness that people think that weights do. And what I've found is it's really hard to build muscle. We talked about this on a podcast earlier with Shannon. It's really hard to build muscle. It's not easy. So I think that people's perception of like this bodybuilder situation
Starting point is 00:34:01 is not actually what is reality. No, you would have to eat like 80 bowls of beef to get to that bodybuilder-esque look. I mean, that's no joke. Yeah. That's a lifestyle. I would say if someone wants to start, I would start lifting three to four times a week. I would wake up and take a walk. I try to take a walk right after I make the bed because getting that sunlight is great for your hormones. I take a walk with my son and his stroller and I just walk and walk and walk. You can return calls. you can return text messages. It's a nice way to like open your morning, in my opinion. I try to look at my day as a play. And like the opening act, it's a drama. The opening act after I scrape my tongue and make the bed and do all those little things is like I want to get outside. I want to get
Starting point is 00:34:56 sunlight on my eyes, my son's eyes. Michael and Zaza sometimes come to like it's just getting outside and getting that hit of daily sunlight. And then you're walking, getting your steps in. Like it doesn't have to be so complex. And then ways to up protein is, I would just say, just start adding protein to every single meal. Just you'll start to notice that instead of eating two cups of rice, you'll only want one. It's weird. Yeah, if you're mindful of it, it's definitely going to pop up more in your day where you're like, oh, I could have more chicken instead of, yeah, like you said, more rice. I was looking for this very specific baby blue slid. lane bag. It has like a long strap with a little gold buckle. I could not find it anywhere. I finally found
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Starting point is 00:37:36 This is perfect for picky eaters. so you can basically fill it with anything. Like you could make pepperoni pizza crescent rolls. You could do like a chicken bacon ranch crescent roll. They have ham and cheese. I like to have fun with it because my stepmom is big on filling things with like berries and she mixes lemon with it. So I tried making like sort of like a lemon crepey situation in the Pillsbury Crescent.
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Starting point is 00:40:23 I mean, how do you get your protein? What do you do? I eat a lot of meat, too. I mean, my husband hunts, so we have deer meat always on hand. Bring some of that over. I know. I know. We have a lot. I'm going to eat some of the deer. And I've always craved red meat. I've never even ever considered. I'll eat it like almost raw, even like a steak. Like I'm obsessed with red meat. Chicken will sometimes love hate. Eggs are love hate, but red meat is always something that I've been obsessed with. And again, like if you look at just a regular like eight ounce steak, I mean, that's a lot of protein and it's not that much steak. No, it's so easy. And also like people are like, ooh, liver, you only have to eat like an ounce of liver once a week to reap the benefits. I ate
Starting point is 00:41:04 an ounce of liver last week. I was bouncing off the wall. It gives you so much energy. That organ meat, Like, sure, it's not fun to like choke it down, but the benefits that it gives you, it is good for your hair, your skin, your nails, your energy, your vitality, your immune system. I just mixed some up and Towns's ground beef and he ate it. Like, I think that if you can sneak it in, great. And listen, if you don't eat meat, go do a vegan plan that works for you. I'm just sharing what has worked for me. There's plenty of protein options for vegans and vegetarians. And if another thing that I do sometimes, if I've had an extra hard day of weights, and I did this yesterday in front of you, I do one fourth cup of oats. I do a heaping scoop of ritual protein, which has 20 grams of protein in it. I do wild blueberries. I cook it into like a paste. And then on top of it, I'll put almond milk and cinnamon.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And that right there, it's not a ton of carbs, but it's that protein too. It feels like dessert even also. It felt like dessert. And I lifted so, so heavy. It was like a heavy day yesterday for me. And that oatmeal gave me like an oomph. And I'll probably do that two days a week. But like I said, when I travel, I bring my supplements. It's like it's a suitcase. I have my own. I have my own like I'll do my tea in the morning. I'll do all the things and I'll have my protein. But I do definitely indulge. in alcohol and in carbs. At home, I really don't drink unless I'm going out to dinner or lunch. Or you have like guests sober or from out of town. But yeah, I really don't drink. Yeah, I really don't drink at home. And that's that's also different because in L.A., like we would open a bottle of wine. I don't do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:56 What I've done with this house is I don't associate this house with alcohol. Does that make sense? It's like, I think a lot of people when they come home, they're associating their home with like red wine. Oh, I'm going to open a bottle of red wine. It's like end of the day. It's been a long day. It's nice to like cuddle up with a, mm-hmm. Not to do that. Yeah. It's like convenient to have something in your hand. It's convenient to have a little buzz too after a hard day. But. And I get it. Like in LA, we would like, like I said, open a bottle or red wine or make margaritas. And with this house, I was like, I don't want to associate this house without. Yeah, it's not out and around and, like, displayed anywhere. It's put away and it's, it's behind a door. Yeah, it's not easy to grab. That door doesn't get opened very often. No. In my old house, we had, like, everything stocked with peroni beers. We had, like, Corona Lights. We had, it was, like, very much, like, a fun place to come over. And now it's like, I don't really let alcohol enter. It's in my house, but it's not in front of me, if that makes sense. Sure. And I'm sure
Starting point is 00:43:56 that's helped, too, with, like, this whole journey that you're on. Like, obviously, we know alcohol slows things down and turns to sugar and all those things. So good to avoid that anyway at a period in your life like this. But I will say when I do drink for some reason, I mean, let it rip. No, no, like I will be like, I will like be like so, I'll get buzzed so quickly. Oh yeah. Your tolerance is like non-existent. Yeah, it didn't used to be like that. So that's interesting. And when I do drink, I also am, and you guys already know this, someone who is thoughtful about what I drink. So if I'm having champagne, I'll do a lopacine and put tons of ice in it so I drink it slower. If I'm having a margarita, I'll do a half from a salt and do like just lemon and lime and a little bit of
Starting point is 00:44:45 quantro and tequila. I'm very, I'm not just like, oh, like let's get like lit cosmopolitans. And like, I'm still, I always try to be purposeful about anything that I'm eating the best I can. Another example is if I go to a restaurant I'll order a half order of pasta and a protein as opposed to the full order. Well, we all know portions are too big anyway, so that's a good move. Yeah. Just like, like there's little tweaks that you can make that make a huge difference. Like, if I get a Caesar salad, I'll say, can you only put half the protons on it? Right. People are like, how do you ask, how do you ask the waiter to do this? And I'm like, you just be gracious and nice and hello, be you're allergic. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, I mean, that helps you.
Starting point is 00:45:29 gracious and nice and just ask politely and say please and thank you and it's never been a problem. So those are good little like tricks, I guess, to kind of aid in like your goal. But what else from a workout standpoint do you feel like is a trick? And this is an example. Like if you have a, you know, full day of calls and you're sitting on your butt like where someone would sit on their butt and work at a desk, like you go on a walk. What are some other things that you do like that you would consider a little trick to get in like steps or movement. I absolutely think if you have calls and you're complaining about being overweight and you're not walking during those calls.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Get up. Get up. Go walk. Go outside. I mean, there's even like on TikTok, they have like these treadmill desks. They're so cool. Like I turned mine into a desk. You've seen the like acrylic.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I got this acrylic thing on Amazon. I put, is it treadmill or treadmill? Everyone gets. Treadmill. Treadmill. I put it on my treadmill and it's a desk. Literally I was I was working and doing zooms on this desk while I walked. And I'm not saying like you have to walk at like 3.4.0 all the time. Sometimes I walk at 2.0 like 1.5. It's better than sitting. Anything is better than sitting. So for me, it's about finding those pockets in the day where you can just incorporate movement. And I also think everyone, knows I'm a huge fan of hot cold therapy, sauna and cold plunge. I understand. I used to be a broke
Starting point is 00:47:04 college student. I understand not having access to that. There's no excuse why you can't take a freezing cold shower. And you know, before I had a sauna cold plunge when I lived in L.A., I would take a three-minute freezing cold shower every single day. And it's so easy. I'm sorry, people are like, oh, it's cold. It's uncomfortable. But for me, it's like, it's one of the hardest things you're going to do all day. It's going to set your mental state up so you feel like you can attack the day. It gives you energy. It tightens your skin. It's good for your pores. I just don't see why you wouldn't do it unless like, man, I don't know, you're allergic to cold. Like, it's just so easy to just do it freezing. I had this hack where I took Ryan Holidays, the Daily
Starting point is 00:47:49 Stoic podcast. It runs for three minutes. And I turn on his three minute podcast. So I feel like my brain is like doing something else while I'm getting the cold shower in. And by the time the podcast is over, it's exactly three minutes. Yeah, that's a good hack. So that's easy to do. As far as sauna, there's so many places that you can go. I know there's one in San Diego called Remedy Place. There's one here called Kuya.
Starting point is 00:48:16 You can go and you can get like a membership in sauna. But you don't have to have access to that to lose weight. It's just a really great thing for doing. detoxing other tools that I've used to lose weight. I've also done aerosculpt. I talked about that. I got my jawline aerosculpted. Snatch. Yeah. But I didn't lose weight from that. No, I was going to say, that's not like a weight loss thing. It's not a weight loss. That was body contouring. I didn't, like, let's be clear. I got on the scale. I weighed the same before and after. It's not a weight loss tool. But I do think that's important to say to people. Well, it's good for like, you know, feeling like you've
Starting point is 00:48:52 tightened up a little bit and that things are. Definitely. tighten things up for sure. And again, you touched on this a little bit, but what would you go back and do differently now that you are where you're at now with towns post-partum with Saza? I would do the whole thing differently. Right. I mean, you would do everything you've been doing. I mean, I was doing just Pilates with Zaza. I would have done Pilates. I love Pilates, but I would have incorporated weights four times a week. I would have eaten more meat. I did eat meat with her, but I didn't realize the importance of protein. I wasn't educated enough. and I would definitely implement cold hot therapy after six weeks.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I did belly bind with her, which was great. But I had a tough time. I mean, I had a tough time postpartum with Zaza. And I have real empathy for people who are going through postpartum and have anxiety and depression. I was having intrusive thoughts of like knives falling out on the ground. Like it was just like very, it was very like. it's I think people don't talk enough. It's very heavy when you've had a baby come out of you and you
Starting point is 00:50:01 have all these hormones and your partner doesn't understand because they're a man. It's it was it's just like a lot and then you're breastfeeding and like it's it's almost like too after your body's gone through so much then you also are breastfeeding. It's like then you're just a lot going on. You're like a machine. Yeah. It's a lot. You feel like you're just being used and abused. Yeah. And I like I said gained so much weight and I didn't even know where to start with her. So I think that I would just change my plan of action, which is why I'm talking about this right now, because if this helps anyone, I feel like if you're postpartum or you're confused at where to start, this is a lot of what I'm telling you is tools and tips that I've picked up from the experts that I've had the opportunity
Starting point is 00:50:45 to interview. This is all stuff, sort of like data that I've collected from all these different people of things that works. I've had, I've been. able to talk to Andrew Huberman and Gabrielle Lyon and Dr. Shannon, who we just had on Paul Saladino, Chervine from symbiotica, having these people on, like when you have them on the podcast and they all tell you things that work and when they all match up, you're like, huh. Makes you think. Yeah, you sort of, you're your own researcher. So I feel like now I finally found for me, what works for me, which is why I'm finally comfortable. to come out and really speak on it. I'm not a doctor. I'm just telling you what's worked. I'm still
Starting point is 00:51:30 on the ride. I'm definitely not done. Well, you look incredible. And I know that, like, I'm not just saying that. That's nice. It's true. I mean, to see, like, I still got some ways to go. Obviously, where you started and where you are now, I know you've, like, worked your ass off. And it is, I can't even imagine, obviously. Well, maybe you can't imagine. No, maybe not. Whatever you do, you can take maternity leave, but do not stop making me sourdough bread. Yeah, okay. Well, yeah. Just don't ever stop making me sourdough bread.
Starting point is 00:51:58 No, I love doing that and it's fun. Those are my tips. Little hacks before I go. I add herbs to everything. Katie, help me with my herb garden. Out of control. I added to my water. I added to foods.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I add spices to everything. Spices are so underrated. 100%. Yeah. If you can add chili powder. No calories also. If you're going to have a piece of mango, add some chili powder and lime.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Like just like little coffee, add cinnamon. So any way that you can just add spices or herbs, I also drink a lot of water, but I also sex up my water. So like I'll do lemon and electrolytes in the morning. And then I'll do amino acids and creatine when I'm working out. Like any way that you can just get it in, but make it quick, even like this is weird, but I add like get off my acids minerals to my coffee. It's an acid kicking mineral.
Starting point is 00:52:50 and so it takes the acidity out of the coffee. Just like you just find little things that you can quickly grab that are accessible and easy to make the process of toning up easier. But walk, walk, walk everywhere you can get cold. Try lifting weights, eat protein and let me know. Did I miss anything else? No, that was everything. And if all else fails, fuck, just wear black.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yes, that's my signature. I highly recommend it. Just wear black, man. It helps. Yeah, no, this is, this is great. I think this will help a lot of women, a lot of even men, like anyone on a weight loss journey of any kind and not even weight loss, just like getting back to where you feel like you were before or getting back to a place where you feel really comfortable with your body and you feel good and you can move and you're not achy. And, you know, I think this is super helpful. And there's a lot of really good takeaways from this. I hope so. And any wellness practices that you can do body work,
Starting point is 00:53:49 emphatic, the Chi machine, fucking facial massage, acupuncture, anything, any of those little things that you can add in where you can, great. But at the end of the day, it is those simple practices, lifting weights, walking, protein that really make a big difference, I think. Katie, where can everyone find you and your sourdough? At Hangree Hobson on Instagram and sometimes on Lawrence Instagram. And also you're on blog talking about how you helped me plant herbs and how you make sourdough. Yep, both of those are there. Good stuff. I hope you guys love this episode. I am going to post a picture of right after I had towns on my Instagram story so people can see a visual of the situation. Maybe I'll even
Starting point is 00:54:39 post one after Zaza. I don't think I've ever posted one. Maybe I will. And you guys can sort of see the progression. I also have to shout out my trainer, Bodies by Brent, who has helped me in Austin and the flexible diet coach on Instagram who has helped me with food and of course Kim Kelly in San Diego Melissa Wood Health just some people that have been amazing during this whole past year and mother nature mother nature grounding energy air sunlight okay all the good things all right bye bye

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