The Bossticks - Lindsey Vonn On What It Takes To Be The Best, The Mindset To Overcome Anything & The Courage To Start Again

Episode Date: October 9, 2026

#1,014: Join us as we sit down with Lindsey Vonn – World champion skier and one of the most decorated American ski racers in history and widely regarded among the greatest of all time. She is an Oly...mpic gold medalist, world champion, 20-time World Cup crystal globe winner, New York Times bestselling author, entrepreneur, investor, and philanthropist. Over nearly 25 years at the highest level of the sport, she became known not only for winning, but for her ability to repeatedly rebuild after some of the most significant injuries an athlete can face. In this episode, Lindsey takes us inside the mindset, discipline, and sacrifices required to reach the highest level of her sport, from growing up with an unwavering goal of becoming an Olympian to learning how to perform under immense pressure. She opens up about navigating retirement, redefining her identity beyond skiing, and making an unexpected return to the mountain after a knee replacement. Lindsey also shares what she has learned through her evolution into business and investing, emphasizing her commitment to health is central to her success, the role of the immune system, which includes antibodies, in her wellness routine, and why confidence comes from embracing who you are rather than chasing perfection. For Detailed Show Notes visit TheBossticks.com To connect with Lindsey Vonn click HERE This episode is sponsored by Invivyd Learn more at http://AntibodiesforAnyBody.com and take the wellness assessment. To connect with Invivyd click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostick. Together, they are the Bostics. Today we're sitting down with an absolute icon. Lindsay Vaughn is one of the most decorated American ski racers in history. And today we're getting into what it actually takes to operate at an elite level for decades and what she has learned about longevity, immune health, resilience, and listening to your body when necessary. With that, Lindsay Vaughn, welcome to the Bostics. So we talked off air and I told you I would really like for you to,
Starting point is 00:00:34 elaborate on all the sacrifices that it's taken for you to be such a high performer. And maybe you can sort of like walk us through someone you were young, some like maybe in high school give us like some of sacrifices that people haven't seen. Yeah, it's like when did you even start getting into athletics like since you were very little? Yeah, I mean, I started skiing when I was two and a half and then I started racing when I was seven. I knew I wanted to be an Olympian when I was nine. I met my childhood idol. And since then I was just like, this is what I want to do.
Starting point is 00:01:02 and my dad and I made a 10-year plan of how I was going to make the next Olympic. So, you know, I've always been a pretty goal-oriented, like determined person or child. But there was a lot of sacrifices. I mean, I think namely my family sacrificed a lot. We moved from Minnesota to Colorado so that I could ski. I'm the oldest of five kids, the youngest three are triplets. And so everyone gave up a lot for me to be able to pursue this crazy dream of going 85 miles an hour. down a mountain. But, you know, I didn't really have, I would say, a normal childhood or really
Starting point is 00:01:38 that much of a childhood in general. I didn't really get to do the sleepovers, you know, when I was younger in high school. I really wasn't in high school. I did online study for a lot of it. I was in a ski academy. So we're juggling, you know, academics and sports. And there's no prom. There's no parties. There's really focused on skiing. athletics, getting the school done as quickly as possible so I can get on the mountain. And it's hours, you know, hours and hours and hours in the gym on the mountain. You know, I've been going to like summer training camps since I was seven, you know, every summer was not spent, you know, at the amusement park or hanging with friends. It was spent on the mountain training. So.
Starting point is 00:02:27 And did that bother you or resonate with you as you were a kid or did you, were you so focused on the goal that it didn't. I never really noticed, you know, I, I knew that other kids, especially when I was in high school, you know, were all partying and, and I just didn't really find the excitement in it because also a lot of my friends were racers and they partied and then didn't ski very well. And like, to me, that just doesn't seem like the ROI on that is it doesn't add up, you know, for me, I, I, I knew that. if I went to bed early and I did what I was supposed to, that meant that I was going to ski faster. And I'd rather do that than, I don't know, feel like shit hungover.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Wait, so you're telling me that if I take my daughter and I make her focus on the Olympics, she won't party, she won't go to sleepovers. She has to want to be in the Olympics for her. Well, you have to throw her down the hill at 85 miles an hour though. Listen, if I'd rather maybe throw her down the hill than some weird sleepover. Yeah, I mean, I don't know about sleepovers. Now that I'm thinking, I think you avoided, it's a good thing to avoid this. When you reflect now on your childhood, is there anything that you would change or do you look at it like it's all happened for me?
Starting point is 00:03:39 You know, I think everything happens for a reason. All the mistakes, you know, when I was younger or older, they all kind of led me down this path and I wouldn't change anything. I think my parents did an amazing job with what they had. You know, I think in the moment I was like some of this stuff felt really hard. but it made me a stronger person and I never felt like I was missing anything as a kid. I always was a happy kid and I enjoyed, obviously I love skiing, but I enjoyed working hard as well. Do you think doing what you did gave you a really great sense of confidence? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But I also felt like because I didn't have a lot of social interaction with people outside of the mountain, I definitely wasn't as confident in real life as I was on. the mountain. You know, on the mountain I was, I knew exactly what I was doing and I walked in with my, you know, head high and my chest out. But in kind of other social situations, I think I struggled or it just took me a little bit longer to kind of find my way than maybe it took others. I would think that the quietness and stillness that you experience when you're on that mountain is so grounding and so almost addicting. Is that how it is? I love it. Yeah, that's- never experienced it. I'm not the best skier, so you might have to tell me about it. Well, you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I mean, it's honestly, and I feel like the world moves so fast these days, and there's so much crap and distraction and noise and, you know, emails and calls. And when you're on the mountain, it's just, it's quiet. You know, it can be sometimes too cold, but it's just quiet and peaceful. And I love being the first one on the mountain, watching the sunrise on a sunny day. There's literally nothing better in the world. I love skiing, but I think we've decided... He's good. Michael's good. Well, I mean, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I'm not going to say I'm good in front of you. I can ski. I'm not really the barometer for good. Well, I think I can, at least I can ski down. On a normal scale. As long as you can make it down and like... Yeah, I can get down pretty much anything. Get to Opry's ski part.
Starting point is 00:05:47 But we... This motherfucker took me on a double black diamond. I don't know how to ski. I was at the Wasson Gras. I was rolling down the thing, throwing my poles at him. Like, he threw me on a double black. I can't even ski a green. But her dad lies to me and tells me that she's like a professional tennis player, a professional
Starting point is 00:06:03 skier, an opera singer. I mean, hyped her up. That's what kind of his job. I can carry a tune. Michael. But we've decided she's a maybe going to be a lodge wife. Like, she's more of like the. The opera is, she's a snow bunny.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah. There's nothing wrong with being a snow bunny. I got some good bond, ski clothes. You look really good. Perfect. You don't need to ski. But by the way, I can. can be a leisurely skier. Why can't I just go down greens for the rest of my life? That's great.
Starting point is 00:06:28 That's all you need. Honestly, like, as long as you can get down, that's all that matters. I do other things. We don't need. You're good. Like, I'm sorry that I don't ski, that I'm not your perfect ski money. Okay. So what are some things that you mentioned big sacrifices, but what are some micro sacrifices? Meaning, what are little things that you do differently on a day-to-day basis than other people? I mean, it's kind of everything, you know, instead of sleeping in an extra hour, I'm up early in the gym. Like even now, I'm not competing, but, you know, I'm making daily choices that I think most people, or at least my friends are like, I don't know how you do that. And it's just kind of ingrained in me this motivation to, you know, always try harder or try my best every day so I can
Starting point is 00:07:14 get better. Even though, you know, again, I'm not competing. I still, I still strive for more. So whether it's making sure I go to the gym when I'm traveling, whether it's eating right, like I pack a lunch on the plane so that I'm not eating plain food. Like I've always got almonds on me or like hard-boiled eggs. Like I'm a weirdo with that stuff. But it's like little choices that I make every day that you might not notice. But when I was competing, it was obviously much bigger sacrifices that were very clear. And I might you know my social life was non-existent you know especially in this last two-year window when I was doing the comeback. You know, I'm just at home literally every morning, every afternoon grinding. There's there's no time for anything else. I didn't I didn't really see very many people for the majority of the summer. Do your friends understand? Yeah, they do. That's why my three friends are two of them I grew up with since I was seven and one of them I've known for 25 years. And,
Starting point is 00:08:18 And I don't really have many friends outside of that. I have good acquaintances, but those three are core. And they know that if I'm not calling them, they're just going to keep harassing me until I one day have time to call them back. And, you know, that's just kind of, I understand my limitations as a friend. I'm not, you know, unfortunately going to be the person that's always there. But if you really need me, I will drop everything. At the height of your career, what did your actual,
Starting point is 00:08:48 training routine look like, just for context for people? Yeah, I mean, I think there was a time, especially in my peak when I, I think, over-trained, but I was doing three sessions a day. I was doing about an hour of cardio before breakfast, breakfast, then like two to three-hour weightlifting session or athletic, like track and field session. Then I would have lunch, take a break, take a nap, do a strength session in the afternoon, therapy, dinner, bed. That's kind of my day. And for, I guess just like out of ignorance, like, what does a typical strength training
Starting point is 00:09:25 session look like for a professional skier? Like, is it, you know, like, when I go to the gym, which is you're just doing like full body stuff because I'm not competing for anything? But for you, is there specific things that you're training more than others? Yeah, I mean, you know, our legs are the most important thing for us. So I'm mainly training lower body. Obviously, we rotate so that you're not hitting the same muscle group, every day. But we do a lot of squats, front squat, back squat, a lot of cleans, deadlift, you know, kind of like the heavy Olympic lifting exercises because for us, we need to be able to handle an extreme amount of G-force. So we have to be able to withstand eccentric force. So
Starting point is 00:10:06 that's why we do super heavy eccentric loading and squats are one of the most important things for us, but you kind of have to also be agile. So for us, we can't just be, you know, linear and only doing lifting. We have to be able to functionally move. And so we have to do agilities. And it's a really interesting sport in that way. Training for us is not like most sports. We have to be kind of good at everything. No, that's why I asked, because just like, again, like as a novice skier, it's a different kind of soreness and a different kind of workout than the typical things. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You've said that you want to separate Lindsay, the person from Lindsay the skier. Mm-hmm. What does that mean? I think it's mostly, and I figured this out when I retired in 2019, is just that I am not what I do. I'm Lindsay. I'm a person. I love skiing, but it's not who I am.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And I think as an athlete, sometimes it's really hard to separate those two things because our, I mean, our lives as an athlete. are focused around the success and kind of your identity is built into that. And if you're successful or not successful, are you, are you a worthwhile person? Like, what is your, what is your value as a person? And my value is not tied to whether I succeed on the mountain or not. And that's something that I, you know, I had to work through like most athletes have to at some point or another. When you become a champion and you're winning all of these things, is there sort of like a crazy astronaut syndrome where you get to the top and you've done it and then
Starting point is 00:11:43 regular life feels weird. I definitely feel like regular life is a little too slow for me. Uh-huh. That makes sense. I totally understand. I'm like not pedestrian. You know, I like to move fast and work hard and go, go, go. And sometimes I think I fill my plate too much because I I just want to keep doing things and it's not giving me enough like excitement or adrenaline. But then I get exhausted and I have to like recalibrate myself. So I'm trying to find the balance of what is exciting and keeping me motivated while also not being completely exhausted. How do you recalibrate? Like what are little things that you do? I mean, it's pretty simple. I have a really easy routine. It's law and order. My dog and Ben and Jerry's like it's it's. What's the
Starting point is 00:12:36 flavor. Sometimes a gin and tonic, you know, throw in the mix, but what's the flavor of the Beninjeri? I love half-baked and there's like an Oreo mint chip that's really good. Okay. I got to try that. That sounds really good. How would you advise our audience to find confidence in themselves if they're feeling maybe insecure or not confident? I mean, it's really hard. I think what I'd tell the kids anyways from my foundation is that you're unique for a reason. You know, the reason why you're special is because you're different. and you need to lean into that. Don't run away from it. I feel like everyone nowadays wants to be the same. Look the same, act the same. We look perfect on Instagram. Everything's perfect, perfect, but no one's perfect.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And it's like accepting those flaws in ourselves is, I think, the best way to build confidence in ourselves. Because I think comparing to other people is how you lose sight of who you are and that confidence for me. ways. And when I look at Instagram, I'm like, well, shit, what have I done in my life? And, like, no, it's seriously. And I'm like, I don't have a yacht in Greece and, you know, like, what am, you know, like, what am I doing? How, like, there's still time. I mean, like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm not perfect and I don't pretend to be. And sometimes I just have to remember that. And nothing on Instagram is, is real. I mean, I once sat behind a woman on an airplane this summer. and she spent the entire two hours photoshopping one picture.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And I was like, this is how you become insecure. Like, just be yourself. Like, I've stretch marks. I'm not perfect. This is who I am. And I think we just need to accept who we are and find confidence in our uniqueness. I love that. How do you deal with pressure?
Starting point is 00:14:31 And I'm asking this in the context of like you've been on the world stage with basically the world watching you. Like, have you always been able to handle high pressure situation? There's something you had to learn. And how do you think about it now? I had to learn how to handle it. I mean, I dealt with it a lot as a kid because my family has sacrificed so much for me. I knew that like I can't, I can't miss these opportunities.
Starting point is 00:14:54 You know, my family's giving up their lives, you know, moving to a different state, unhappy because I'm trying to pursue my dreams. And so, you know, when I was even 12 years old, I raced in this international race. And my dad said, whoever wins this race always goes on to win World Cups. And so I felt this extreme amount of pressure at 12 years old. And I learned just by trial and error how to, like, calm myself down through breathing. Because I was panicking. I was in the start gate.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I was in second place. And I was like, I have to win. I have to win. And then I was like, I'm not going to win if I do that. So I don't know. I just, I figured it out. And since then, I kind of use this breathing technique to calm myself down. But it's, it's a lot of practice.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And I also try to think about pressure as something that it's like, it's something in our minds that we just put on ourselves. If I ski nervous, I'm not going to win. It's just, I'm just not. So I kind of look at it logically. Why would I be nervous then? I might as well ski the best that I can if I make a mistake. I'm probably going to ski better making that mistake than if I was nervous anyway. So why not just go for it?
Starting point is 00:16:12 And that's how I logically kind of get through it. But over time, I really grew to love the pressure. It really got me going. It got my adrenaline pumping. And in the end, like when I was retired, I really missed it. And when I came back, that's the one thing that I was so happy to have back. It's like being in the starting gate with all the pressure and being able to just give it everything I have. It's such an amazing feeling.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It's such an opportunity. Pressure is an opportunity. Have you ever been able to duplicate the feeling of that pressure outside of sports? No. Like not even close. Really? Like there's nothing. Public speaking in front of thousands of people might get me a little nervous, but it's not the feeling of like, because it's not just being.
Starting point is 00:17:01 focused or being mentally present. It's also the use of physicality, that like physical aggressiveness that I just don't find anywhere else, unfortunately. I imagine that's a challenge for a lot of athletes as they retire. Yeah. If you can't duplicate that. There's no way. I mean, a lot of athletes kind of go in the opposite direction. They never want to do their sport again because either they they burnt out from it or they know they can't replicate it. So they try to completely do something different. And I don't think for me I can ever get rid of skiing. I just love skiing so much. It's something that's always brought me joy even long before I was racing. But I think that's the biggest struggle that athletes have. And I think there's a lot of, you know, unfortunate, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:50 addiction problems that come out of it because you're searching for something this high that you'll never find anywhere else. And it just sucks that an athlete's, you know, our career. career span is so short. Yeah, but you seem to have a lot of self-awareness around this topic. Yeah, I mean, I was very young. Like, I mean, a lot of people I don't think come to that. In my, in my world, I'm a grandma, literally, they call me a grandma. Well, I think we're on the same age.
Starting point is 00:18:17 So I'm going to say we're very young. We're very young. But like, you know, I mean, a lot of people like, I just don't think have that kind of awareness. No, for sure. And I think that's what gave me an advantage this last year racing was that, you know, I was number one in the world in downhill. and number two was 21 years old. And so my life perception is much different than a 21-year-old.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And it gives me a lot of confidence, you know, having that perspective. But it took a lot of time. You know, I retired for six years. So I was fully away from ski racing. And I learned a lot about myself, you know, and I've been around a lot of athletes. And I asked a lot of athletes questions, you know, how are you dealing with retirement? And every single person gave me a completely different answer. What did you do when you were retired for six years?
Starting point is 00:19:09 I did a lot of business, a lot of VC stuff. I'm on the board of a few things like the Olympic broadcast services and sale GPUSA. And I advise a sports fund with Avenue Capital. And I did a lot of personal investing. So, you know, like a lot of business stuff. I have my foundation, of course, and I have my ski line. And thankfully, I've been able to partner with amazing people and companies, like in Vivid and, you know, like Red Bull and Rolex and Land Rover. All those companies are still my sponsors.
Starting point is 00:19:43 They never left me even though I retired for six years. What makes you come out of retirement? I got my knee replaced. And that really changed everything for me because I retired in 2019 because I just had too many surgeries. I was skiing with no LCL. and like three tibial plateau fractures on my left knee and a bone brewers on my right knee had like two knee braces and I was like what am I doing here like this is too much I need to stop and so and so I stopped and then I thought you know after ski racing my knee would get better and it didn't
Starting point is 00:20:19 like not being active actually made it worse so I had to continue with my physical training and I just got to the point where I was like I can't even do a 20 minute walk with my friend's seven-year-old kids. So I need to figure it out. And I got, um, I did a lot of research and I got a new replacement. And then I was doing things that I hadn't done in, you know, 10, 15 years. And I felt like a fresh teenager ready to go again. So I just thought I'd do it. Maybe you need to get your back replaced. No, I'm going to have, I'm going to have, I'm going to have robot arms at one point in robot legs. I want to be a whole, just don't get a robot deck. No, who knows. You never, you never know. That's too much EMF for me. You never know. So I want to change your stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:00 project real quick. Well, we can get it. No, I'll change it. I'll do a transition. So, um, when you, when you start to get into the business world, how do you decide, like, where you're going to focus and how do you decide who to say yes to and who to say no to? As I imagine at that time, you probably had all sorts of people throwing themselves at you and all sorts of opportunities. Like, how did you have the clarity of which direction to go? Um, I mean, it's a combination of, you know, what is the business or what is the product, um, and who has, is running the business. And, you know, that's kind of how I've operated in my life or my career before in ski racing when I, when I think about partnerships, sponsorships, like, who are the people?
Starting point is 00:21:42 And the people make the company. And, you know, I've, I've been with these, you know, these companies for like 20 years, like Under Armory, I'm one of the longest standing athletes, is because I believed in Kevin Plank, the CEO. They really didn't have any women's product when I joined, but I believed in him. And so when I look at companies to invest in or partner with, it's the same theory. You know, I want to build not just investing money or partnering, but I want to build like a long-term relationship with these people and this company. So if the person or the people are not good people, I'm not going to do business with them regardless. When you're competing for a living and then you get into the business world, how does the competitive
Starting point is 00:22:27 edge come into business for you? I think it kind of has to do with like performance almost. Like when I go in to try to raise money for different funds, you know, I'm performing. I have to be on. I have to know my shit. I, you know, I can't, I can't make any mistakes because people are relying on me. And that's, that kind of, I look at it as like a similar type of pressure. And I think I kind of hype it up to myself to make it like seem more challenging just so that like I can kind of get a little bit more of a thrill out of it. But being, you know, on like live television, you know, this kind of stuff where you don't have any redos, you know, there's no, there's no second take. I need to have everything done on the first take. I do the best when I have to get it done on the first take. Is your day to day on
Starting point is 00:23:18 Zoom's, is it meetings in person? What's it or is it different every single day? I mean, when I was retired the first time. Yeah, a lot of Zoom, especially during COVID, obviously, you know, I think so much was getting done over Zoom, but now it's more in person. And when we do fundraising, it's more in person and a lot of conferences. I'm doing a lot of public speaking, which has been really rewarding. You know, I was just in Vegas, you know, in front of like 3,000 people. And and it was fun. It's hard to make, you know, people in AI laugh. I always try to make jokes. It was more challenging than most, but I did it. I want to talk to you about antibodies, okay?
Starting point is 00:24:00 First of all, I think just to give the audience a little lay of the land, what is from a kindergarten digestible sentence, an antibody? Well, antibodies are really what your body has to protect against germs and toxins. It's like really what helps you prevent from getting sick or if you are sick get better. your body naturally has them and it's like our natural kind of alarm system like the house has an alarm system like anybody's are what you have inside of you to help protect against intruders like any foreign substance or infection or germs that's what we we need and have to protect ourselves and why is it so important when it comes to being an athlete and why did you get so interested in
Starting point is 00:24:47 the topic well you know my whole career I've really tried to be extremely cautious about getting sick. If you think about it, if you get sick at the Olympics, you're screwed. And what happens in that? You're screwed. You have to find a way to perform sick. And it is really hard when you've been waiting four years, you know, or your entire life at these Olympics and you're sick.
Starting point is 00:25:14 So actually what I did before the 2010 Olympics was when I flew over from Europe, I was wearing like gloves and a mask. Obviously this was 2010, so long before, you know, COVID. But that was how I traveled before big events so that I wasn't exposed to too many germs. I stayed away from buffets, like all of these little choices that I tried to just prevent myself from getting sick. And same goes for this last Olympics. My entire team was sick before the Olympics. I wasn't. I literally removed myself
Starting point is 00:25:50 went to a different hotel. They were all like incubated and like they're all know... Do they freak out? I mean, germ fest over there and I... You're like a real life bubble boy. Yeah, literally. But I mean, that's what it takes. And, you know, I try to obviously make smart choices to not just prevent myself from being around germs, but like, you know, simple things like just sleeping a lot and trying to avoid stress with obviously is really hard when you're you're competing. But in daily life, I think it's hard for people to really understand that antibodies are really what's protecting you, but also the choices
Starting point is 00:26:24 that you can make to help yourself from getting sick. And if you go to For Anybody.com, it's really a baseline. Like there's like a cute little test that you can do. And you can get gold, silver, bronze. Unfortunately, I didn't win. I have a little too much stress to do. I failed one of the questions, but it's just a good baseline for you to really understand the choices that you make every day that are going to help you prevent yourself from getting sick. So for me, I'm like I'm, I always want to share whatever knowledge that I have because you know, ski racing and my career as an athlete I've learned a lot about myself, my body, my health. And it's not just about being strong physically or mentally. It's also what's going on
Starting point is 00:27:13 the inside. And so I think for me, just being able to share information about health and wellness has been something that's given me a lot of joy and something that's positive. And what made you want to partner with in vivid for this campaign? Like I said, I just want to help people. This is just an educational endeavor that I'm happy to be a part of because it's sharing important information that's hopefully helping people. Like I said, my career has been based on my body and my health. And if I'm not sharing the information that I know, I think that's selfish. How do you think people at home can make their antibodies function the best of the best? Is there things they can do? Yeah. There's a lot of things. I mean, being very simple, sleep more, eat well, try to limit stress,
Starting point is 00:28:07 which is obviously really hard to do sometimes. But I think when you, like for me, I was really sick last week. And I know why I was traveling too much. I was on a lot of planes. I wasn't sleeping enough. And so I took the time to just, you know, try to get eight hours of sleep, eat well. I didn't work for five days. And I got better.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And it seems like really obvious and simple. But I think we forget how important sleep is. It's not just a thing that we need to do to function. It's a thing that we need to do to stay healthy as well. What are you like when you lose? Oh, that's a tangent. I'm not a good loser. I assume so.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I mean, I'm a good sportsman. I always congratulate my competition, but I am, I'm hard on myself. Because usually if I lost, it's because I made a mistake. And so I'm like, I'm always like really analyzing myself. what did I do? How did I do it wrong? What could I have done better? Like, how can we as a team work better together so that we don't, like, they can help me not make this mistake again. And I get pretty upset for a couple of hours. And then once I've processed it, then I move on. And I'm like, it's completely out of my mind. Okay. So you can get rid of it pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, I don't hang on. I'm not a hanger on or no. What do you mean a mistake? Explain that to someone. I don't know what that means. Like you moved your stuff. ski wrong, what does that mean? That's really cute. You got a bump in the snow. I had a bump. No, it's like if I skied the wrong line, you know, it's a little maybe too complicated,
Starting point is 00:29:52 but in our sport, we have one inspection where we look at the course and then we have to go 75 miles an hour and ski the exact right line. Okay. And sometimes we misjudge because we're going too fast, because things happened and we just didn't get to the right line.
Starting point is 00:30:11 So oftentimes that's my biggest mistake is I didn't hit the line right. Sometimes I just get a little ahead of myself. I want to go fast and I like just, I'm kind of like a bull in a china shop. I just kind of go and I get too aggressive and I cut the line and I make mistakes that way. And sometimes what just happened unfortunately where I get, a report from a coach or from another athlete that's not right for me. And I've listened to that and I change my game plan and it's wrong. What do you mean? Like they tell you, they give you advice on what they think you should do and you don't like the advice or you? Well, the thing is like
Starting point is 00:30:53 I'm relying a lot on my team, right? My coaches, they're on the course periodically throughout and they tell me how it's running what the other athletes are doing. And in one particular instance, last year, I was told that I needed to have a wider direction so that I could come into this jump with the right direction. And it was wrong. I could have gone much tighter. I went too far. I ended up losing the race by a couple hundredths, and that was easily a couple of tenths. So I lost the race because of one gate. And it's not necessarily the coach's fault, like other athletes were doing it, but it wasn't the right line for me. I can sometimes ski a different line than the other athletes. But yeah, I was a little bit upset with that one. I'm curious how your parents,
Starting point is 00:31:51 when you were young, handled you and you lost. Like, what did they say to you? My dad is, he's a lawyer, and so he's pretty straightforward. Like, you made a mistake. Once at the Olympics, when I got bronze, someone reporter asked him where I could have skied faster and he said from the start to the finish so my dad can be my dad can be a hard ass but I mean I even though he's harsh there's no one harsher than myself so it's not like that ever really bothered me and and I also need straightforward advice to know you know what I'm where I can be better I want to be better I don't want to you know, pretend that I was perfect. I wasn't. Clearly, I didn't win. I made a mistake. But yeah. If a guy has dated you in the past, do you take them skiing? I mean, I have. Is that crushing for
Starting point is 00:32:54 them? I feel like that's almost emasculating. No, I'm actually a very patient instructor. And all my friends, they're like, can you teach our kids and our other friends? Because I'm, I try to break skiing down in the simplest form. And I don't judge. I'm not out there trying to go fast with people. I just want them to enjoy it. So I'm actually really even, that was never the reason why I broke up with people was because I went skiing with them. Just to be fair. A guy's never gone skiing with you and like they're they're getting upset and throwing poles because they can't do it. Like they're not getting frustrated. No, I've never had that happen. Okay. I've had it happen with, you know, it's a very lived experience.
Starting point is 00:33:36 For someone like me who's not a very good skier, what are the basic little tips that you would give someone? Stand up. Stand tall and focus on pizza. Like just pizza. We don't need to go french fries. You could stick with pizza and you'd be fine. Did you hear that? You're trying to get me in French fries. French fries are great, but you know, you don't need it. Like I went skiing with Ashley Graham and she was hilarious. But I was literally just yelling pizza pretty much the whole way down. So you can just go down slow. It doesn't need to be something. We don't need to go fast. You just need to get down. What if someone wants to go fast, though? What's the track? Then you need French fries. I think that a couple, like, I don't think I should try to teach her. I think we should always just have somebody that that's what they do and then they can do that part because it's just not.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Michael thinks skiing though is a fashion show too. He has a whole look. It's such a fashion show. It is a fashion. I want my kids to ski. I mean, what other sport like can you really get that like dressed up? That is true. Yeah, that's true. I guess like tennis is not really. A tennis is cute. You can be cute. for a woman. Not the guys. The guys are just in shorts.
Starting point is 00:34:39 It's like, do I do the, like, the muscle tea? I don't know. What are some beauty tips? This audience is very interested. Sorry, Michael. And beauty, skin, those kinds of things. What are some beauty things that you adhere to? I mean, honestly, like, I'm pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I'm not, I don't really have time. Like, I'm more of an efficiency type person. Like, I got one oil and one cream and, and like sometimes I try to wear like eye masks on the plane but I'm not really like my best friend is an esthetician and I try really hard to do what she tells me to do but I generally just somehow forget or like don't have time so I'm just simple I like don't wash my face with any cleansers I literally just have one oil one lotion well you look great strong antibodies thank literally. I mean, sleep, like being healthy, like all these, like, all these choices that I make,
Starting point is 00:35:43 they do add up. I think trying to have less sugar, not drinking. Like, I have some vices like ice cream. But generally, like a lot of those things make you really inflamed, like alcohol inflames you. So like your face, your eyes, that adds up. And so, yeah. But, you know, but You will have a drink here and there. I do, yeah. You know, gin and tonic now and again. Nice bottle of wine from a romantic date, but not really. I've found over time that just doesn't make me feel good.
Starting point is 00:36:21 If someone is listening and they're struggling with motivation, how would you sort of coach them? I mean, I really think that if you look at, like, what are your goals? You know, what are you trying to achieve? and then make your decisions based on that. If you don't give a shit and you're like, fuck it, I just want to be me. Like, great, go, don't sleep, go drink, do whatever you want to do. But if you want, you know, to look good and feel good,
Starting point is 00:36:50 you have to make the right choices. You know, if you want to be healthy, you have to live a healthy lifestyle. You know, even if I'm like traveling on the road, like I get hard boiled eggs and avocado. You know, I try not, everything has butter. and salt and, you know, it's fried and I try whenever I can to just simplify it, make it as healthy as possible. And of course, you know, again, like, I'm not perfect. So I have some pizza and burgers
Starting point is 00:37:19 every once in a while. But like, just make those small choices every day and it will add up. Are you cold plunge sauna person? Yeah. I mean, if I can, I do. I think the sauna especially, If you have a choice of one or the other, the sauna is the more important one. There's some conflicting research for women in cold plunges. I'm not sure the answer on that, but I generally like it because it makes my knees feel good. But the sauna is like how you detox your body. And when you're doing this much traveling, like you said, you're leaving for Milan tonight. How are you staying healthy?
Starting point is 00:37:57 You mentioned bringing food on the plane, but do you have like a weightlifting routine when you're there? Will you just wait until you come back? Oh, no, there's gyms. Every hotel that I go to has to have a gym. That's like my number one thing. And even if it's just 30 minutes, like even if I just bike for 30 minutes or I'm on elliptical or I, you know, do a quick leg routine, I always have to get in the gym a little bit every day. Not just because of, I need it physically, because I need it mentally. It helps me. It helps me combat jet leg. I always carry a ton of hand sanitizer. like wet wipes. I'm like, you know, trying to like limit the amount of germs that I'm in contact with so that I don't get sick. I mean, again, like the antibodies are a real thing and whenever I can try to protect myself, I do. But traveling is hard. Like it is the number one thing I think for me that gets me sick. So I try to do the best I can with it. I imagine you, as I'm hearing you talking, you might have a, tell me if I'm wrong, a difficult time in relationships with people that don't
Starting point is 00:39:08 have personal discipline in some kind of goal. Yeah, it's like I don't care if you work at McDonald's, but you have to be, you have to have a goal. Like, you know, do you want to be a manager? Do you want to, you know, you have to be, have some sort of ambition in life, you know, it's not the scale of ambition. It's just that it has to exist within you. And I find, generally that people that don't work out very much lack that type of personal motivation, personal discipline, you know, and I think that's really important to have in life. So I take it my life too seriously in that way. Like I want too much from myself to be with someone that doesn't care enough about themselves. I mean, it's just so foreign encounter to how you've
Starting point is 00:39:56 lived your entire life. Yeah, exactly. I can't relate. I honestly have never even consider dating someone that isn't driven, isn't a driven person in some way because I just can't relate. But I imagine just even in like your friendships. It's like people got to have some kind of personal discipline or drive or something. I know my friend since I was seven so I don't know. A bunch of loser. I'm just kidding. They're like very different. There are very driven, but they're very different people. And we all have very different lifestyles. One lives in Minnesota with two kids. One lives in Montana with two kids.
Starting point is 00:40:32 The rest, like, Park City. But they, I mean, they all juggle a lot. They have full-time jobs with kids. I don't know how they do it. They're incredibly impressive. But, yeah, I just also, like, where do I meet friends?
Starting point is 00:40:49 It's also something I struggle with. Like, if I want to have new friends, where does one meet friends? That is a hard debacle. Right? Yeah, I think you have to have a really good set of friends, like, to your point that you've known for a long time. It is, like, hard to, like, go and meet friends, though. Like, I didn't go to college, so I don't have, like, college friends.
Starting point is 00:41:11 I didn't really necessarily go to high schools. I don't really, I have some people that I knew growing up, but we're not close anymore. And, like, I don't have kids, so I'm not in, like, the PTA and, you know, meet other. We have kids and we're not on the PTA either. Really? You guys aren't PTA? That's very intentional. I didn't peg you guys for PTA parents.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah, well, you're not PTA. You're the cool parents. No, we're not PTA. I don't know for the cool parents. We're definitely not the PTA parents. Not that there's anything wrong with the PTA parents. No, there's, PTA parents are great. We all need them.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Do your thing. What is the Lindsay supplement stock? I'm working on something. I can't tell you when it's coming out or what it is, but I'll tell you that I've really, really struggled. Even as an athlete, finding vitamins that I understand that are good for me as a woman. You know, most companies that I have done research on, they say like women's, you know, stack or whatever. And it's literally the same as a man's, but it might be one difference, like one different vitamin.
Starting point is 00:42:24 The rest are exactly the same. and we need much, we need different things than men. That's clear. I definitely take creatine and protein almost every day. Definitely creation every day, protein almost every day depends on what I'm doing. I, because I'm an Olympic athlete, I can't do peptides or any of that stuff, nor what I want to really. Wait, is that cheating? Yeah, you can't do anything. I didn't know that. Yeah. So if someone gets caught taking a peptide in the Olympics that's cheating yeah for sure i did not know that yeah i got a lot to learn about these olympics yeah there's a lot like we can really have nothing it's like and everything that we do take has to be sports sport certified so it's like um third party tested it's i because i had
Starting point is 00:43:13 such a hard time finding vitamins um in this last comeback specifically i would do like blood tests and then get custom vitamins made for me that were then tested again third party so i had like they're all certified because i'm scared you know like if the the machine that makes my vitamins made some other substance like a steroid or something and it mixes then i'm positive what's the content that you consume what content do you let in meaning like podcasts reading like who are you following on instagram what comes into your ether i mean i i i i Honestly, I'm on so many podcasts. I do so many podcasts that I don't really listen to many because maybe I'm talking too much.
Starting point is 00:44:02 But I love, I haven't actually watched your podcast before. No, it was good. Which one was it? Michael, don't put her on the spot like that. Which one? Tell me which episode. The one that he is, no, the solo that I did without him. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Exactly. I'm leaving. I'm out of here. But I mean, generally I'm a crime buff. Okay. You know, so law and order, but also like... But like not like the dark crime, like stuff. Or are you like that stuff too?
Starting point is 00:44:34 I don't really like the, like the real life documentaries. I could avoid those. But like when I was growing up, I watched Unsolved Mysteries. That's like resurrected on Netflix now. But that's like light. That's like it's just... That's more light. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Like, that's definitely lighter. But yeah, like I... like true detective mayor of Easttown like those are kind of my you like memes I mean I don't I don't know if I'm like cool enough to know the memes I'll send you some no no don't I'm not on TikTok I don't really know I'll send you some memes don't worry okay do you meditate and the gym is my meditation I also think skiing too is so meditative like I can't I keep going back to like you being alone up there. It's so calm. It would be so weird for me to not have someone asking me a hundred questions. It's probably just peaceful. It's very peaceful.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Lorneal hates skiing. Don't ever go up there with me. Don't ever go out. No, I might get good at it. But actually as parents, like one thing that I have learned from other parents is they say it's the perfect way to have hard conversations with your kids. You guys sit on that chairlift? Yes. My dad used to do with me. No, I think I really want to, my kids are six four one. I want to take the six and the four-year-old and go and do it because it's not I think it's also it's like similar to like I guess golf or tennis you can carry skiing with you your entire life yeah and I think that that's a great family sport yeah someone told me that you when you have hard conversations with your children you want to be doing something that's facing out like walking so you don't have to sit eye to eye yeah and skiing makes so much
Starting point is 00:46:13 sense because you're on the chairlift looking out and then skiing you're going down so that makes total sense to me. And they ski and they process what you said and then you get back on the chairlift and generally after that period of time they've processed what you said and they're more receptive to what you're saying on the next go around.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I just want to put this out there that I am relying on you to teach our children to ski and I expect them to be skiing. Okay, there's a long list so you're on the list now of people. I want them to be good here. I'm not relying on you to do that for them. That's for damn sure. You need to get on it because they have not skied yet. We're going to go.
Starting point is 00:46:46 this year. Towns will be great to snow skiing. I think for kids where are we going to go skiing? So okay you tell me if this is wrong because you will know
Starting point is 00:46:53 we like going to Colorado but I think for kids Deer Valley is good because it's easy and safe for kids yeah easy that's right I grew up going there but we grew up in San Diego
Starting point is 00:47:04 so we go to like mammoth and big area we would drive but then like luckily sometimes What about Aspen? Ascent is a hard kind of a hard mountain for kids
Starting point is 00:47:10 butter milk butter milk is good for kids yeah I mean honestly Honestly, if you don't live in New York, but I always say like go to the dream, which is like an indoor ski dome. And it's really easy because everything's in the mall. So you got like the boots and skis and all the outfits and the kids just go, you know, there's a little magic carpet. That's what I learned on when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah, it's like San Diego. They put me on the carpet thing. Yeah. And they got hot chocolate. I think bribery is always helpful. Like hot chocolates are. Bribery all day. Great.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Yes. We bribe the hell out of our kids. If someone wants to teach their children to ski, what is the Lindsay tips? Give us three tips. Never go in a snowstorm. It's like country club, you know, country club skiing. Only go when it's a nice summer day or spring day. Like, you know, February and March is a great time to take your kids because it's not too cold. If it's too cold, they're not going to want to do it. Like make sure you don't, they're not out there too long. Like hot chocolates, bribery, have snacks with you. Like sugar, candy, something to like, because sometimes they get really tired also because they're outside and the cold. Try to make it as fun as possible because generally a lot of kids have like, if it's cold and they have a bad experience, they don't want to do it again. You know what you need to invent?
Starting point is 00:48:31 What? Boots that you step into that have the whole outfit, including the goggles, all attached. Like you need to be able to step in those boots and just pull everything on because I'm going to be honest. It's a lot to do. There is a lot of gear going on. There's a lot of gear, but like you can make it cute. I don't think that it's possible to make an all-in-one uniform per se. You can't do those character costumes that they put on.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Put on? Yeah, just, we just step in. Like, in most places, like, Deer Valley, they put your boots on for you. Okay. They carry your skis. You've been there. They carry your skis to the hill. I mean, with children.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I want where they help them get into the woods. Well, that's why you just get an instructor. Like, my brother was a ski instructor for a long time, and he was dealing with like eight children all at the same time, but they carry the kid's stuff around. They, you know, by the time they come back to you in the afternoon,
Starting point is 00:49:23 they're exhausted, it's kind of a great setup. I also think the whole thing of having to carry their own stuff and put on their boots, it gives you a little grit. Of course it does. It makes you a little uncomfortable. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:34 but if you make a three-year-old do it, they're going to burn out. Yeah, but I mean, I could see both sides. Like, it's nice for them to be able to get in there and do it. I mean, life's hard,
Starting point is 00:49:43 get a helmet. Like, my parents always made us, responsible for our own stuff. So, for example, if you left one of your mittens at home, like, suck it up. Too bad. You got to figure it out. Yeah, you're like, that's what you got. If you didn't bring the right jacket, like, you're going to be cold. So you learn quickly as a kid that to be responsible for yourself, which I think a lot of sports, you don't quite have the same, the same independence built in. You know, parents can baby their kids,
Starting point is 00:50:15 longer and more effectively in other sports. skiing is, I think, a little bit, it builds a little bit more grit, which I think is a good thing. How much of your mind do you think you use in the sport? Like, how much mindfulness? Are you tapping into your head a lot? Yeah. I am a very tactical skier. I visualize a lot. I have a very specific game plan for every race. You know, I feel like tennis is is a physical chest match, but so is skiing. You have to know exactly what moves you're going to make, where are you going to make them. And similar to golf, you know, you have to know where you can miss and where you can't. I know exactly where I cannot make mistakes and where I can, like, where I can push the limit and if I, if I doesn't go perfectly, I'll still be okay. But that's all,
Starting point is 00:51:09 you know, my mental game plan. I'm, and I'm very strategic. about it. I'm also very diligent about my equipment. Like, I am, I've got an Excel spreadsheet. I've got, I take notes every single run. I know every ski, every boot, how it felt, what conditions. Like, I am a very detail-oriented person. So you're a master. I'm using my brain. You are a master. I try anyways. Before we go, tell us about the antibodies for anybody campaign. Yeah. I mean, like I said, antibodies are. how your body protects against germs and toxins and go to anybody's for anybody.com and do the wellness assessment test. Again, gold, silver, bronze. I'm interested to see what you guys get.
Starting point is 00:51:56 How does it work? How does the test work? It's basically just a couple of easy questions, and it's kind of like based on your life choices, like your daily routines. So I don't know. I mean, I think everyone gets at least a bronze. So don't worry. You won't get a wooden spoon, which is fourth place if anyone doesn't know that. If you guys want to take the quiz like we did, you can learn more at Antibodiesfor-Nibody's for Anybody.com and take the wellness assessment.
Starting point is 00:52:21 What if people want to go purchase your clothing, see you, your Instagram, all the things? All of it's on my Instagram. So there's like a link, you know, whatever, the Comey link and all my stuff's on there. My book, my ski line. Yeah, everything is on there. When is the next time we will be seeing you skiing?
Starting point is 00:52:43 Well, I have another surgery scheduled for November. I still have to get all the metal out of my leg and I still don't have an ACL. So probably, definitely not this winter, maybe the next winter. I know you'll be back. Everyone better watch out. Thank you. Lindsay, thank you for coming on the show. Thank you, Lindsay.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Thanks for having me.

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