The Bossticks - Listener Questions Answered With Mimi Evarts - Microdosing, Skin Routines, Book Recs, High School Reflections, Advice For Young People & What We Wished We Knew

Episode Date: May 29, 2020

#270: On this episode we are joined by Lauryn's sister Mimi Evarts to answer listener questions. We discuss micordosing, our skin routines, and advice we would have for our younger selves. We also discuss book recommendations and resources for success. We end the episode with reflections about what we were like in high school and what we wish we were taught in school.  To connect with Mimi Evarts click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by Skillshare. Skillshare is an online learning space offering more than 25,000 courses. Join the millions of students already learning on Skillshare today with a special offer just for our listeners: Get two months of Skillshare for free. That's right, Skillshare is offering The Skinny Confidential listeners two months of unlimited access to over 25,000 classes for free. To sign up, go to www.skillshare.com/TSC.  This episode is brought to you by BETABRAND and their Betabrand dress pant yoga pants. To try these pants go to betabrand.com/skinny and receive 20% off your order. Millions of women agree these are the most comfortable pants you'll ever wear to work.  This episode is brought to you by Perfect Keto  Clean ingredients for better health. Perfect Keto are no B.S. products backed by science to help promote better health. All Perfect Keto products and supplements are made from real whole food sources. Visit www.perfectketo.com/skinny to buy 1 and get 1 Perfect Keto 40% off + free shipping Produced by Dear Media

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Get started and joined today by heading to Skillshare.com slash t-Sk. TSC. That's skillshare.com slash TSC. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness.

Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her. All right. Lauren, you're going to blow the mic or what? Let's get in position. And we're back again, everybody. Welcome back. It's been a long week on Friday. you're still about to blow that mic.

I am about to blow the mic. I love to get super close to the mic, and it's like right in my face. I cannot tell you how much I miss our fucking studio. I am sick of this. I'm going to get out of the house. I'm done. It's done.

You look like you're about to blow the mic, though, too. You look like you've aged 10 years. I probably look like I've aged worse than that. Welcome back to the show, everybody. For those who are new to the show, my name is Michael Bostick. I am a serial entrepreneur. I am claustrophobic in this house.

I am ready to leave. I am the CEO of the Dear Media Podcast Network. How annoying? How annoying is he, Mimi? He's so humble. I was doing the intro to the show, Lauren. Michael, you're like the WB frog. Like his personality was a functioning too and now it's like high level 10. I know how to turn it on. I know how to tap dancing. I never tap into it. Okay. All right. Well, here we are. We're here. We have Mimi, my little sister. She also works. She's my right hand man. She works at the skinny confidential with us. She's got a huge dick. Hi. Right hand man. Yep. That's me. What's up with you and Dick's? today. I don't know. Lauren not like doing it for you? Yeah, what's going on? Michael. Are you going to go throw a beat in the shower?

She's doing it for that mic. Okay. Well, Mimi's here and yeah, Mimi compiled all of your questions from my Instagram story and our hotline. Shout out to our hotline, you guys. We have a fucking hotline. What's the number to the hotline? 1833 Skinnies.

Yes, people have been calling in and leaving voicemails. So Mimi got everything transcribed. She has questions that you guys have asked Michael and I. and we're going to answer them on this episode because quarantine is the time to do this. It's a while since we've done a listener question. Yeah, it has been a while. We used to do those call-ins. Remember with Taylor?

Ooh, Taylor. See, when we get the studio back open again, we're going to do that again. That was fun. I like doing that. That's old school when we used to have people actually call in. I'm going to do that. I want to do that again. I want to have the call-ins.

I want to play the voicemails. I want to get back. Taylor and quarantine would be a great reality show. Like there'd be nothing better than watching Taylor in quarantine. I would love to know what Taylor will. Connor is doing. He's listening right now with his big ear. How's it going, Taylor? Taylor's our producer for those of you that are new to the show. And he works with us at Dear Media and for us at Dear Media. And somehow, even when we're all working from home and the only

thing you need to do is click a button to get into a Zoom meeting, he still happens to be late to every meeting. I really, I don't get it. It's, I mean, I don't get it. And if you're unfamiliar with Taylor, he has pissed his pants on the show, talked about his one minute man problem. You don't have to call it a problem. I guess it was one minute man situation. and told every story in the book about every sexual encounter he's ever had. So it's been a real wild ride with Taylor. If you want to have more context, you can go back and listen to any Taylor episodes. Okay, let's get into the show.

Mimi, I'm going to let you start out with the first question. We are going to answer the reader's questions, the listener's questions. Okay. Everyone always asks this question. It's probably like the top five most asked questions on the podcast, Instagram. Wait, stop for one second. Can I ask you, are those, did you just start wearing glasses for a look? or do you actually need glasses?

No, I went to the eye doctor and my left eye. When did you go to the eye doctor? There's no way you went to the eye doctor. Three weeks ago. Yeah, on Beverly. During quarantine? Yes, I wore a mask. He wore a mask.

I feel like you're making it up. I don't believe. Okay, fine. No, I noticed I was working on the computer so much more during quarantine and like not getting a break from the computer that my eyes really started to hurt. And I went to the eye doctor and my left eye needed a prescription for it. That is true. I wear blue light glasses too.

Shout out to movement. I feel it's a fashion statement. I will, I'll dig into this case a little further. You feel it. You can try them on right now. Do you want to see the prescription in them? You look like Renan Stimpy when they just woke up. So I feel like you need to invest in a blue light glass.

What's the last time you had Botox? You looked like. God. By the way, there's, there's nothing better in life than a fake glasses moment. That's why I don't believe the glasses. I love it.

Would you guys like to try them on to see? No, no, no. I don't need to try them. I just, I think that you're the type of psycho that would wear them, even if they,

even if you couldn't see in there a little blur just to get the, what do you think your wife wears all the time? I don't know. I probably have prescription glasses that I don't need. Maybe if you wore glasses, your eyes would open up a bit more. Lauren, you very quick roll around in that chair. It's going to distract me the whole show. Okay, back to the questions.

Okay. Okay. You're a no one. Everyone wants to know your top five books. Ooh, good question. Oh, that's too hard for me. But I can give some good book recommendations. But you go first.

Well, I think I got a thing. I think I'll say when you say one. I'll say when you say one. Top recommendation of books. Are we going juicy or are we going value? Because if we're going juicy, I am going to have to say Anthony Kedis's scar tissue was one of the most beautifully written books that I've ever read. I think that's attributed to the fact that he is a songwriter. So, I mean, each sentence is so beautifully written.

So that's definitely one of my favorites. It's an incredibly dynamic, interesting, deep book, too. It's about his struggle with drug addiction. As far as something with value, I'll guess I'll let you go first, my question. and then I'll come back to me with the value one. I'll rattle like three biographies that I think people should read. Don't overwhelm people though. I'm not. I'm not.

One I think everybody should read Benjamin Franklin's biography by Walter Isaacson. I think it's just Benjamin Franklin is like a really, he was just like a pillar of a person and very wise and I just think it's important to read that biography. Arnold Schwarzenegger's biography. I've said this for a long time. Total recall is one of the better biographies I've ever read and he wrote it. Jerry Weintraub's biography. Jerry Weintrave's biography is so good, you guys.

We agree on that one. And you, we both read that in like, what a day or two. It is such a good biography. That's, that's a good one, Michael. If I was to write a book, he stole the title. He's his title. So I would steal the title from him. But it's called, you'll know I'm dead when I stopped talking.

Right. It's not a good title. Yeah. Explains you perfectly. Yeah. Managing oneself by Peter Drucker, the one thing by Gary Keller. You're going too crazy. What about Shogun?

Shogun by James Clavel. Last night, I tried to start reading Shogun and I immediately fell asleep. Those books are hard to digest. But if anybody like really wants to get a solid grasp on a million different aspects of life in business, love, anything. If you read the Asian saga by James Clavel from Tai Pan to Noble House, it's hard to do, but it's worth it. A lot of people won't do it.

That just probably just went into the wind. I'm going to say tools of the Titans for value because this is based upon the fact that you can open it up to any page in the entire book and the book is 750 pages and find something that brings you a tangible take. takeaway. So I opened it the other day, you know, three times and I got all different kinds of tips that I could implement into my own life. So that's the one that I would pick for value. I've said like 50 times in the last like few weeks. And Ryan Holiday was just on and we both thought all three of us talked about a man search for meaning by Victor Franklin. I haven't read that. I need to

read that. I looked for it when I was naked juving in your man cave today. Anybody that thinks they're really struggling right now like anybody, literally anybody. And they read that book. it's going to give you so much perspective and so much hope in your life. You're talking about somebody who literally survived Auschwitz in the concentration camps and lived to tell about it and write about that entire experience. It's just, it's a book that everyone should read for perspective. I'm going to read that book. That's my next read. I am reading such a good book right now. I cannot put it down. Michael, I'm annoying the fuck out of him. It's called Love Warrior. I feel like I'm late to the party. It's by Glendalyn Doyle and she's going to come on the podcast. Did I mispronounce her name?

You guys are shaking your head. You probably mispronounce it. I feel like that can't be right. I misspronouncing. Let's get over. I apologize to her when she comes on the show. Okay. So I also heard her book untamed is unreal. So that's my next book. I feel like the way she speaks to women is unlike anyone I've ever read. Every sentence again is art. I've taken so many notes and highlighted so many pages and I literally cannot put it down. I just am I'm reading it off my phone every single night. Another book that I really am enjoying right now that was just recommended to me by my friend, Sarah from Pilates is called Nemesis. And it's about Jackie O and Aristotle and their relationship after JFK. So that's a, that's a juicy biography if you guys want something more juicy.

Yeah, there's so many, there's so many good books. There's some posts that we did on the Skinny Confidential. If you look TSC Book Club, you'll see some posts that we did in the past. Also, you'd probably get a pass. on pronunciation because you can't even say the word breakfast. So anybody, nobody's going to get mad at you because if you can't even pronounce breakfast after all this time, that's what I'm not saying you get a pass. Sometimes I just don't like to put my energy into picking up the remote. I like to ask you to do it for me.

Like if you ever fuck up someone's name. Saying breakfast is too much. The way I say it. Say breakfast. Oh, you actually say. Sometimes you say it different. Breakfast. Yeah.

That's how you usually say breakfast. And perfect. Perfect. Yeah. But I'm saying like if you, if you, if anyone ever gets mad, you could just look and be like, you know, So if someone's going to get mad about that, we got to like, we got to take our energy elsewhere. Don't get mad about the way I pronounce things.

You got to go for a walk or something. Sorry, I can't pronounce breakfast. Maybe some breath word. Yeah. Okay. And two more, I have two more books to share. We over did this question. We kicked it to death.

Okay. I have a hundred books around. What about how to murder your life by Cat Marnell? How to murder your life by Cat Mornell. Did you read it? Yeah. It's good. It was so good.

Your sister knows, huh? You know an idea we've been toying with me. We'll just, we'll ask the audience right now if we want to do it. So we're towing with the idea of doing a couple of mini episodes, like maybe like five to 10 minutes, like every couple of weeks, like maybe like two to three a week or a month, a month. Not a week. That's too much, guys. I can't do that. But we're thinking like maybe at the beginning of each month, Lauren and I would come in and each give two book recommendations of the month. It's like a little TSC book club via podcast. It's a great idea. People like that. We'll do it. I love it. So a couple episodes back, Lauren and I did an episode all about just getting started. What better time now when we're all sitting at home have more time than ever on our hands.

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It's amazing. We've been talking about it for years. It's one of the easiest ways to jump in. learn a new skill. The skill that my team specifically uses, we've talked about this, are the Instagram stories. You know how there's video and we use like for our podcast. You can see the audio and the video on the stories. We learned how to do that through Skillshare. So they all went on. They took a class and now some of them are like so good at it. It's ridiculous. Sometimes Taylor sends me assets and I'm like, wow, you have really, really tapped in Skillshare. One of my favorite classes that they just launched is

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That's two free months of unlimited access to thousands of classes at Skillshare.com slash TSC. And be sure to check out. Greg McEwen's course. It's amazing. In the meantime, some other books that I'm reading just really quickly. For research, actually, for the skinny confidential, I'm reading the Park Avenue face, want to interview him. It's all about plastic surgery, which is interesting read. I'm also reading, and this has nothing to do with politics. Absolutely nothing. In fact, I don't really even partake too much in politics. It just has to do with the fact that I watched the first wives club,

and I thought what she said, don't get mad, get even. It was really fabulous. Ivana Trump wrote a book, called Raising Trump and it's about how she raised her kids and it's juicy. So if you want something juicy, that's interesting. She talks a lot of shit about Donald. It's kind of funny. And then another one that I would recommend is by Esther Perel. It's called mating in captivity and it's unblocking erotic intelligence. So those are some of my favorites. But if you want all of our books like Michael said, just Google the Schoony Confidential Book Club. And literally anything by the master of Robert Green. Every single book by all. Literally any book. You could pick up any book and it's worth it. Robert green. Robert, if Robert wanted to date me, I might have to leave you.

If Robert wanted to date me, I would leave you. Yeah. Robert, open invite. Right, right. Okay, I think he's married. What's next, me? All right, let's wrap that one up. Okay, some people wanted to know your nighttime skin care routine.

Well, right now, it's just like crying myself to sleep that I can't get out of the world. Are you rubbing sand on your skin? What's going on? That is a foul. I caught you rubbing Lamere on your fucking kneecaps the other day. No, you always tell that's right. That's not true. It's a true story.

You come into bed and I have a no. that can smell anything and you lay in bed like you haven't done anything. They're not asking my routine. They want to know your routine. No, they are. They are. They are. Yeah, they are. Don't lie. Just be like transparent. Well, no, I am always transparent. You have a good 10 step. You know, I'm going to, I'm not going to lie, everybody. I'm not going to be vulnerable here for a minute. Taylor cue the sad music. He probably didn't cue the, I guarantee he's not going to cue the music. He never cues it up. I guarantee you right now. There's no sad music playing. 100%. It's probably, Taylor, I bet you didn't do it. Nope. This is why also I can't smack him in the

studio because I don't see them. Right now I've been lagging a little bit, but there's one thing that like, even if I lag and I need a go-to, Lauren, you're going to have to tell me what the exact product's called, but it's the white Dr. Dennis clear, the silver top. Which one is that? Some moisturizer. I don't know exactly what it's called. You use it all the time. They use that every night. Let me look what that is. I think that is the best nighttime cream that you can use. But typically, you know, I typically am a morning face washer. I don't wash my face in the night. I think only once a night or once a day, right? Who told you that?

Well, you told me, but then a million doctors that have been on the show also told me. Why? Why do you disagree? Because if you use an active ingredient at night, like I use retinol. So in the morning, I want to wash all the retinol off my skin so then I don't get burned. Yeah, but I only wash in the morning is what I'm saying. No, but he doesn't use retinal in the night. Oh, well, you should listen to Mimi because she knows. But the same thing.

If I use the retinal. You don't want to wash the day off. We live in L.A. It's so smoggy. I live inside this house, Mimi. I don't live anywhere anymore. See, my theory is I don't want. my face in the morning ever because I want to let the products from the night before seep into my skin. So I wake up like an oily, dewy bitch and I want to keep it that way

and let all the essence seep in. But the retinol thing that you're saying makes total sense. You use active ingredients too. You use hydrochronin sometimes or however you say it. Hydroquinone. Yeah. Don't you? Not too much since I got pregnant. I've been like kind of doing a lot of clean beauty lately. I'll give all the men and women out there a tip from my perspective that may not be the exact answer to this because I'm having trouble answering for whatever reason, maybe because I just haven't been in a routine lately. But the main thing that I would say to anyone is that, and maybe because I think we're speaking to a lot of women, if you're trying to get your man into a skin routine, give him one line

of products. Like don't go and say you use this from like a Lamar, Dr. Dennis, Barbara Stern. Like, what you did with me was you said, hey, this is three products you use from Dr. Dennis, you use a one, two, three. Or you said, these are three products used drunk elephant, one, two, three. So what I've done since you've taught me about skincare is I typically stick with only one skincare line for like one or two months and just follow the steps that that doctor or skincare brand has put out there. And that usually works really really well for me. My greatest work of art that I've ever done in my life is getting you on a skincare routine. And I don't feel like you're giving the audience what they need to know. So I'm going to give it to them.

Tell them the product. I'm going to pull it back around because I can't forget a detail. Okay. So the product that he likes that's by his. his bedside that he stuck his big finger in a hundred times it's called dr dennis gross it's in a white container and it's the alpha beta exfoliating moisturizer and the reason that he likes it and he's shaking his head because i know him is because it's a moisturizer but it has tiny little particles in it that feel really nice on your skin because it exfoliates your skin while making it clean and dewy does your wife know you yeah that's it's a really good product for men he also uses and likes because i go through his bathroom and like organize everything he also like

the peel pads by Dr. Dennis. He doesn't use the extra strength and he doesn't use the sensitive skin. He uses the regular ones. Wrong. If I feel like my skin's good, I'll use the light. Oh, here. See, it's coming out, guys. But if my skin looks like garbage like it does right now, I'll use the medium.

But I never go to heavy. We're going to get it. Okay. So he also likes drunk elephant, okay? He uses the drunk elephant teal moisturizer that you pump, pump, pump. And he also uses the vitamin C serum by Dr. Dennis Gross and drunk elephant. And he mixes. See, I'm going to get out.

Now you reminded me. So I use the drunk elephant with the light blue top. Okay. That's at night. No. That's at night. No, I talked to her when she came on the show and we talked and we, she said you could use that at night or.

Taylor pull the tape. He's not going to pull the tape. No. Anyone go back and listen to the tape. He's beating his meat. Go look at the tape. So I use the light blue with the orange, which is the vitamin C in the morning. And then I tap that off with the teal moisturizer.

Okay. So his wife was right. At night, I use if I'm using drunk elephant, which I said, don't switch brands. If I'm using Dr. Dennis. not doing this. But if I use that night, then I use the light blue with the pink top, which is going to overwhelming the audience. And how do you know more about skin hair than 95? They do they want specifics. They do want specifics. I'm going to go down to your bathroom after this and take pictures and post it on the podcast Instagram. You also use that's covered in your pewb hair

from your razor that you use. That's my facial. That's my facial hair. It looks like pub. Can we not talk about his pubs right now? It makes me sick too. I have to be as subjected to it. You also use alimus oils all the time. He loves the superfood oil, the green. one, the little bottle, and my friend Weston, who I manipulated into a skincare routine, uses all Elimus. So Elimus is a great way to start the day as well. Are you sure this question was directed at me? Yeah, it was. People have asked before. So what you need to do, like I've told you for the last 80 hundred years, is film a TikTok skincare routine, please. Let me just add that to my shit list of shit things to do. All right. Maybe we'll just sneak and do it when you're

not looking. If you don't do it, I'm going to set up cameras when you're shaving your pubs into the toilet and I'm going to post it on TikTok. He would never let anyone see that. He has the door like deadbolted. I have so much blackmail if he ever fucks with me. You don't even know the blackmail. I've never even seen his feet. I can't imagine like hidden cameras. No, no, no, men don't walk around with open toe shoes. That's a no, no. Don't do that guys. I don't even do that in my fucking house. And then he uses Woomore play. That's another thing he uses. All right. Next question. Okay. Next question. I'm moving on. Okay. People want to know Lawrence as well. Oh my God. We were just scratching the surface.

Do we have all day? No, I'm just kidding. Right now, I'm just going to give you five of my standout favorites that you can't go wrong that aren't going to collect cobwebs in your drawer. You're going to use them over and over and over and over again. Fittner's daughter, ride or die. Obsessed with the oil, smells delicious. Great.

Michael, don't touch it. It's expensive. It's like gold. It's the one product that I will spend money on. That is my nighttime routine consists of me sneaking in and stealing the stuff that you like. Elemiss oils. They have amazing oils. There's this one.

that's pink and yellow and white. It comes in this little magical bottle and you've put a few drops on your face and it makes you glow. Sonia Dakar's butterfly bomb. I am having such a moment with this. I take it all the way down to my boobs. It's on my shoulders. It's underneath my eyes. They also have like a mini jade energy one that is green and both of those together. You cannot go wrong. Dr. Dennis vitamin C. We talked about on Dr. Dennis's IGTV. If you go to his feed at Dr. Dennis gross all about why vitamin C is so essential in quarantine. So that's one that I keep going back to. I can't say enough good things about it. And then my last product that I can't stop using is this beauty water that Mimi got me. It's from Korea. She brought it back from Korea. I tried it a couple

times. I'm in love with it. It reminds me, and I haven't told you this, of Schmey in Peter Pan. Remember the scene where he's shaving Captain Hook's face? And then afterwards, he does after shave. No, he does after shave and he goes like this. He does it on the seagull's butt, remember? Because he accidentally shaves the seagull's... I love how you get my disson references. I know Peter Pan. That turns me on.

It makes me a lot. I know Peter Pan. I was Peter Pan. I was Peter Pan. I love Peter Pan. I wanted to live in a fucking tree and escape my life. We're discussing Beauty Water. So Beauty Water, you're a crook, Captain Hook.

Okay. Do you know what that's from? Those are my five picks right now. Arrested Development. Oh, yeah. I do remember that. Ooh, I forgot that one. Did you want to be a maritime lawyer when you were a child?

No. Okay. What's next? By the way, the beauty water is by Sawn and Park. Oh, thank you. How many questions are there? Because, I mean, we are, we just got, we've only done two questions. Okay, get over it.

Don't micromanage the situation. Okay, moving on, this is like a question with a story a little bit. What are your thoughts on men playing video games? My man will play a minimum 12 hours a day while in quarantine. Ooh, 12 hours a day. What a lucky guy. You know what? I wish that I could still play video games.

I used to love video games. We're all pretty much in the same situation. We're lounging around. We're in quarantine. We need some comfortable pair of pants to wear. There's nothing worse than wearing an uncomfortable gene in quarantine. I can't think of anything worse. It gets all sweaty.

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Simply go to beta brand.com slash skinny for 25% off. All right, back into the show. 12 hours, that's a lot. My dad told me when I was a kid. Everyone told me, hey, quit playing fucking video games. You're not such a waste of time. Don't know what you're doing. Now there's kids making millions of dollars. If this doesn't work out, I'm going to go become a streamer. I'm done. I'm going to go back. Here's my thing with 12 hours, though. I, you know. Is he streaming? Is he trying to make a living? Yeah, I need more context. I need more like situational information with this. Is he making a living or is this something that it's like a side hustle or is he just doing it to be lazy? He's probably just in his underpants with his friends. If he's just letting his

cock hang out to the side and he's eating cookies on the couch and there's crumbs everywhere and the dog's licking his left toe, like that's maybe something that you might want to think about, especially if you're going to eventually have kids with him because you're going to need him to tuck his cock away, put the cookies away and have the dog stop licking his toe. But if it's side hustle or it's his job, That's a different story. In my opinion, this is my opinion. To me, it sounds like this person is writing in because it is not his job or his side hustle. Okay.

So if it's not his job, I would have a serious, serious talking. I miss video games. You know. With a manipulation that. You need a good puppeteered manipulation. So casual comments that are dropped and then changing the subject saying pass the catch up. Little texts and articles that you're sending in the midday. little comments from the mother-in-law.

I love to use a good mother-in-law comment. How old is the guy there? Those always work. How much? 25 plus. I used to play video games. Remember that? I used to play Rainbow 6.

You didn't play for 12 hours. I played rogues. Yes, I did. Roadspeare. I played Warcraft. I played Starcraft. Honey, you didn't pay for 12 hours. I played everything.

Okay. Well, you didn't play for 12 hours. That's a lot. I would start ticking away with my tactics and manipulations. You know who the people I envy are these guys that have become professional. I'm like, I'm jealous of those people. I'm like,

God damn it, that would have been fun. Okay, well, you can play video games. Go play video games. Okay, here I am on the mic. Play video games, Michael. Talking about skincare routines. No, no one's stopping you. Aw.

Aw, babe. But you know, the other perspective is this guy could be out screwing around and he's not. He's at home. No, I don't buy that. No, I don't buy that. You're not going to say he can be out screwing around. So now instead he's going to play video games for 12 hours. You guys all, every guy in quarantine needs like a talking to.

No, but let me tell you what happens. Do you want me to do it on behalf of all women? because like I'm down. Let me tell you this though. The guy's going to grow up and he's going to get a lot of responsibilities. He has grown up, Michael. He's 25 plus. Come on.

And he's going to have kids or something. You know, he's going to be, I'm talking about myself. And then you're not going to, one day you're going to look back and you're going to have all your great video game systems and you're going to be able to buy whatever video game you want. But you're not able to. Here's my problem with video games personally, like my own problem.

I don't want to be in the kitchen listening to my low frequency, Basanova with a tangerine diffuser and candles. and hear people shooting each other. Like, I just don't want to do that. I bought headphones for the living room, so I can have Bluetooth headphones that plugs. You know it's true, too. I play.

But I have random chores that I like for you to do. For all the guys out there, there's a great game called Star Wars Jedi Fall in Order. I just played that game. I had time to play that. But it was a single player. I couldn't even get multiplayer. I want to play the new Call of Duty.

Can't do that either. The only video game I like in my life is Street Fighter and I was Chung Lee. Mimi can't say anything. She's on that Animal Crossing thing. I have played 180 hours of Animal Crossing since March. I can't do it. I can't do that. I can't waste 180 hours when I could be doing.

I mean, I find it relaxing. I tried to get into this game that the young kids are playing Animal Crossing and there's this beaver in there. What's it? There's a beaver. Tom Nook. Tom, this guy pissed me off so bad. Oh, he's a raccoon.

God, he pissed me off. I basically broke the game because I couldn't do it. Oh, Mario cart. Remember, Mario? All the games. Remember duck hunt? I like Super Mario. I could fuck with Super Mario.

Which one? The one where he like. Super Mario is like a big umbrella. No. Don't talk to about it. He bounces on. on the mushroom and eat it like eat it. Don't talk you about those.

She's going to piss me off because she doesn't know. She tries it. Super Smash Bros. Do you know what she does? No. It was like a vintage Nintendo. Lauren her whole life has done this thing where she tries to jump in and act like she knows about these things.

I do know about Super Mario. I do. I'm sorry. It had the gray remote. Name three characters that are in Mario outside of Mario. Princess Peach. Okay. Who was me.

The weird mushroom guy. What's his name? Everyone knows this. Yeah. Mushroom. Toad. Toad. Okay.

I didn't know that. Okay. Name two more because we just gave you that one. Mario. You said that. We can't use Mario. Wow. See, told you.

I don't remember the names. I just remember I was good at it. Bowser? No, I was good at Sega too. I was good at Sega. Bowser, Yoshi. Oh, I forgot about Yoshi. All right.

Wendy. Remember? No. No. Okay. All right. Lemmy. Jiggly puff.

No, Jigley Puff. That's a Pokemon. That's a Pokemon. That's a Pokemon. You used to call me Jigua. You used to call me Jiggo. When we were 12. He's from Pokemon.

She's from Pokemon. So you don't do it. Okay. That's not going. Okay. All right. Next question. Did she look like a jiggly puff?

No. Jigglypuff was pink. Michael looked like a jiggly puff. He was so small. I still have the keychain. I know. Perfect keto. Specifically perfect keto cookies because they're low carb and we're in quarantine.

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Who is my dream podcast guest? Don't say something like Oprah. Everyone says Oprah. We got it. Oprah's everyone's dream guest. We got it. What else? Yeah, say yours.

Larry David, to be on your guys' show. That would die. Such a good one. That's a good one. Oh, I think that's the best one ever. I don't think you're going to get better than that. Can it be living or dead? Yeah, whatever you want.

James Gandalfini. Oh. Soprano. 100%. I would sit on his knee. I love James Gandalfini. I'm sorry, but there's something about him that is so hot. James Gandalfini.

Like, he's like, so weird. No, I think that would have been amazing. Yeah, he, I would have loved to have sat and picked his brain for two hours. Yeah. Or Elon Musk. That'd be a really fun one. Yeah, but Elon Musk is like two like Oprah category.

We know that's like, no, I want to go like, I want to go somewhere like someone who doesn't do podcasts, you know? Yeah. Okay, who? Hmm. A lot of people probably won't even know who. this answer is, but I think it would have been amazing to interview Don Rickles before he died. Mr. Wonderful. Or no, Mr. Warmth. Mr. Warmth. Mr. Warmth. Mr. Warmth. Right?

No, it was Mr. Wonderful. Didn't they just make a movie about him? I thought it was warmth. Mr. Warmth. Wonderful. I know Don Rickles was fucking hilarious. Him. Don Rickles is a really good one. I would love to have interviewed Josh Hagabor. Of course. There's a lot of good ones. What were you going to say he seems really what? I was going to say you seem pretty invested, not even to know the name of his show. He's your number one, Don Rickles? No, but I just couldn't mean. I don't know. I couldn't remember. I don't remember if he was warmth or wonderful. I liked, he was war man wonderful. How about that? Okay. I liked, I liked him. But he would have been good. I think he would have. I just wanted him to, I want him to

come on here and just make fun of us. That'd be funny. Larry David's pretty up there. Yeah, I killed it with that one. Or even like someone like, no, I know who I would want. I would want to interview someone like gangus Khan, right? And be like, yo man, like, how'd you build the biggest land empire of all time? Like, how'd you do that? Why did you knock down China's wall? Like, why did you climb over that and sack all those cities? Or Napoleon? You know, someone like that. That was such a good one, both those people. Yeah. Like dead people. Imagine sitting at the table with Genghis Khan and Napoleon. Yeah, all these people that are living, you're kind of, yeah. Yeah. All you live people. I would have loved to have interviewed the creator of Barbie. Her name was Ruth. I would have loved

to do that. Is she dead? Yeah. That'd be fascinating. I guess we just want to talk to dead people. That's it. But yeah, I mean, if there's anybody else interesting alive, like come on the show, sure. Come on. Welcome. Okay. The next question is. Are you having trouble finding the questions? You can't see out of those glasses, can you? No, I made the font too small, I think. Yeah, because those glasses aren't prescription. There are prescription glasses. Can't read your phone. Look at how small it is.

Isn't that why you wire the glasses? Okay. No, that's for far-sighted. Told you I was going to catch her. Okay, whatever. This is for someone who's launching a new business. The question is how to develop a community that trusts you and wants you to coach them. It's a saturated market and tough to get noticed.

The words saturated and tough take them out of your vocabulary. I don't use negative words like that. I tell my team this too. I don't start emails out with unfortunately. I don't want to hear the word tough. I don't want to hear the word saturated. I would really change your verbiage to they're dealing with the world. The world is not saturated.

There is room for you. There is room for your unique perspective. I would stop giving energy towards things being tough. I think that's a very big roadblock in people moving forward. And I notice that people tell themselves a narrative of why they can't do things. So that's the first thing that I would eliminate from your vocabulary. as far as building a community instead of focusing on building community, I would focus on what you do have. So if you have one fan or 10 fans that are obsessed with what you're doing, focus on that

one or 10 or 20 or 200 fans that you already have and give them the most amazing insane experience and they will go be your soldiers and tell other people about your idea or brand or community. The mistake I see people making is that they're always wanting more, more, more, more, more, more. instead of just focusing on what's in front of them, what they have, and who does appreciate them. I mean, I think like, I just to, I'm going to reinforce what you just said. I think people in the beginning when they're starting a new business, they focus way too much on quantity and not enough on quality. When I say quantity, they focus on how to build this massive community or this massive audience or this massive customer base and they forget that they have, they already have an

existing small base. So like, say you start a business and you have 10 customers. Typically what people do is they say, okay, great, got those 10, fuck those people moving on to the next, try to get the next people. But if you focus more on servicing those first 10 or providing content for those first 10 or speaking to those first 10, they're going to go until another 10 and another 10. But so many people they don't focus on that and they get, they get in the weeds focused on this huge number of like all these different customers and listeners or viewers or readers or whatever. And they don't cater to the people they already have. And it capsizes their business to begin with. So it's like it's a quality thing over quantity to begin with. And it's being grateful that you have anybody paying attention or anybody

buying your service or anybody, you know, as a customer and focus on catering to them and servicing them first and they will go and grow your business for you, right? Like this show, for example, started with very few listeners compared to what it has today. And those listeners really were the mouthpieces to other, now other listeners that learned about this show. It was, you know, Lauren and I have never spent a dollar on marketing for this thing. You know, we started speaking to a very small select group of people. They told some other people.

They told some other people. But it's always been because we've put those people first. I've learned to the same thing on our blog. I've done it the same way on every kind of consumer-facing business or product-based business. I've had its focus on the customers and the consumers that you already have and grow from there. Don't focus on a macro.

In the beginning, focus on the micro. That's my advice on starting a business. And also make sure you have a good fucking idea and product that's worth. Like if you wouldn't buy it yourself or you wouldn't share it with a family member or a friend and you don't believe in it, then don't expect others to either. Make sure you have a rock-solid product. There's nothing worse than people promoting shit that they wouldn't actually use themselves.

Was that a coaching question? was that like somebody's trying to start a coaching business? No, somebody's trying to start a fitness business. Okay. Oh, I get out of fitness business. Okay. So if you're in shape and you want to share that, I get that. I'll go on a tangent on coaching businesses.

Make sure there's nothing worse than that 22-year-old, 23-old life coach that wants to talk to you about being an entrepreneur. There's, you know, I've waited for a very long time to start talking anything. You'll never see me putting a course out about how to be a podcast master or how to run a podcast business. I don't, like, I'd rather teach people by showing in actions, not by saying, hey, buy my course and learn. Like always question these people that are saying like, hey, buy my course to learn. Like I, and there's a lot of people maybe going to get mad at me saying that. I would make sure that you have the credibility. And if you are going to sell a course and you are going to teach people and

coach people and how to build a business, make sure you actually have done it yourself and have the real credibility. And if you're going to be somebody that's buying those courses, look into that person and make sure they've actually done it themselves. You know, like, I think that's, that just as a tangent I went on, but it's true. Okay. The next question is how is your relationship changed now that you've had of baby. Don't look at me to answer that question. Ladies first. No, no. No, you can go first. You guys are handling it well. Are we? Yeah. Have you seen my skin? Have you seen my face? You've looked better, but relationship wise. Today it was a little testy, testy, testy, well, listen, I would say this. We were talking to our pediatrician. This is not easy on any

married couple or any couple. I'm not going to say married, any couple, anybody that's together, man, woman, you know, man, man, woman, whatever the situation is. Quarantine is not easy when you throw a young kid in the mix. And I was talking to him, he's got two young children that are in school. It's probably even harder for them because all the kids that, you know, shout out to all the parents that are taking care of the kids that can't go and socialize in school and, like, have to actually, like, get them through a school day. And, of course, that's not easy.

So, you know, this quarantine situation has not necessarily been the easiest when you throw kids in the mix. You throw work, you throw a smaller space. You throw 800 balloons for my birthday. and all the flowers that... Yeah. But in light of all that... And just crowd the apartment out.

And so it looks like the movie up. I would say the kid has brought in us much closer together. And like this, there's one thing that like no matter what's going on with Lauren and I, which it's usually good, but that we're both completely aligned and love the kids. So it's like it's this commonality of like there's something you both love so much that it brings you together in a different type of way.

Also, I think Michael and I were talking about this when we could go out to dinner 500 years ago about how Zaza was built on so much history. You know, we've known each other since we were 12 years old. Our families know each other. They're so intertwined. Like, your best friends with Michael's little sister. Like, there's so many different dynamics like that. And we've been together, you know, for the last 10 years. And it wasn't a hasty decision. The way she was made was just with so much love and so much history. And so I think that that gives the whole situation another dynamic. I don't know if it's good or bad or what it is, but it makes it very special. But I will say at the same time, like, there's a million things he does that annoy the fuck out of me. I wrote an eight-page text to you

the other night because he was micromanaging me as a mom. And I wrote a huge text with bullet points included to break down what was going on. And when he asked up, it was a fucking nightmare. He tried to stick his toe to the other side of the bed to feel out how mad I was and I flicked his toe across the room. She's like one of those things. You know, like when the college kids, they put up the meme of the guy with like the, he's getting the text that's like 50 pages long.

He's like, yeah, he's dead. But that was like me. I was like, don't screw with me. I will send you a 3 a.m. rage text. I glanced at it. No, you didn't. You read it.

And if you act up, I say, please refer to bullet four. My response was going to be that it's been so incredible to see my wife become an amazing mother. And I love her so much. No, I mean, but honestly, it is a beautiful thing to watch your significant other take care of a child that you love so much. I don't know how to explain it. Oh, my God, baby, you're cheering up. Am I crying? No, I think I got a thing like that.

But I'll cry. I'll cry if that gives me some points. But no, it is. I mean, I think like it's, in our case, I do believe it's brought in us close. together. Quarantine's not making it easy though. So we'd be even closer, I think, if this wasn't. I'm not ready to bend over and doggie right now. I'm not feeling the hottest I've ever felt. That's being dead honest. I mean, I need to lose 25 pounds. And when I say I need to lose, I say, I want to rephrase, I would like to lose 25 pounds that I gain during pregnancy

for me to feel my best. I'm constantly striving to be the best version of myself. And for me, I feel the best, 25 pounds lighter. So that's been, a hurdle and also to see your body change so much is a mind fuck. And I think that that's not talked about enough, which is very surprising to me. It's a, it's a lot to gain so much weight and have your hormones go completely crazy. And then you're breastfeeding and that's, that's a whole different dynamic. And then your skin's freaking out because you have pregnancy mask and hormones and all these new pimples and you're in quarantine and you have access to nothing. And by the way, I'm not complaining. I love my life and I think that there's so much opportunity with this quarantine, which we can get into and so many pros of this quarantine.

And it's so incredible that my husband gets to be home on paternity leave with me. I'm not on paternity leave. I'm just stuck in the house because I can't go to my office. Whatever you want to call it. I do think, though, that the aftermath of pregnancy is not, is swept under the rug. This is what, yes, I agree with everything you just said. No, but you can't, you can't. Of course I agree with what you said.

agree you have to say you say you agree but you don't really understand no you just should say you know what you should do you should just literally listen yeah yeah because you just don't know you just don't know me next question okay go all right the next question is a bit more fun it's how did taking shrooms help you get over postpartum depression first of all it wasn't postpartum depression it was anxiety I just want to make sure that that's clear I did not have postpartum depression I had postpartum anxiety it was and anger Yeah, and Michael, yeah, I had a little bit of anger. Towards your husband.

Okay. Yeah. Everything he did annoyed me. He would. Maybe he was there. He would roll over in bed and I would be like, do you have to roll like that? She was scary. What a beautiful day.

You look amazing today. Honey, can't believe how great a mother you are. And then like, she'd like go and like scratch my eyes out. That's not true. That's not what I had. I had a crippling anxiety where I would get anxious over things that I normally would not get anxious over. And that's pretty normal.

It's nothing out of the ordinary, but I decided that I was going to microdose. And what I'll say is that I want to bring an expert, Michael Pollan. Shout out to Michael Pollan. He wrote the book, How to Change Your Mind on the show to share the journey that I had with mushrooms and getting rid of my postpartum anxiety. I am not going to sit here and tell people to, you know, do something. I'm just sharing my journey and my experience. and I decided to microdose for my postpartum anxiety.

I did it three times. I did it one time. It was gone 50%. So the anxiety went down 50%. I did another time. It went down 80%. And then I did it a third time and it's gone. There's obviously little tiny things that I also added such as breathwork, cold showers,

you know, more time to myself. But what got rid of my, I'm going to say my, because I'm talking about myself. I'm not saying blanket advice. anxiety was microdosing mushrooms. Well, I would say I won't like talk specifically about my experiences because we don't have enough time. We'll do it again in another episode. Hopefully Michael Pollan comes on.

But what I would say is it strips down your ego completely so that you have the ability to objectively look at the problems or issues or challenges or hurdles that are in your mind and in your life. It's almost like an out. I don't say it's out of body experience because that's going to freak people out. It's basically like an eagle eye perspective with no ego involved and way for you to sit and analyze anything that's going on in your life objectively and figure out the most rational solution

that also is like a self-loving solution, if that makes sense. So to me, like I look at it as a very medicinal thing and it's helped me work through many issues, challenges, problems, like ideas, things I'm stuck on. That's and that's why I enjoy it. But there's also the reverse some people like to party on it, whatever, but I think if you use it in the way

that I just described, you can actually have some pretty tremendous breakthroughs. Yeah, we definitely didn't. use it in a party way. It was very medicinal, like Michael said, and we've done it before and had the most in-depth, amazing conversations, I think, of our relationship on it. And so this time it was a little bit more independent, but also together, but also independent. I have like a whole story around it and I want to tell that story, but I feel like we should wait for another episode to get into it. So yeah, microdosing. Until Michael Pollan comes on the book, though, read his book, How to Change Your Mind.

Yeah, read how to change your mind. It's good. Audible, too, has it. What's next? Last question. Final question, Dedy. This is the last one. Are you into microdosing?

I liked it when I took it. I just laughed like a little kid. It was amazing. And I looked at the stars. You realize that you wanted to wear fake glasses? No. I was really feeling anxiety about the quarantine and I took it and it really helped my anxiety. It made me realize like this is just like a chapter of life like anything else.

And I've been feeling better since then. That is true because your whole outlook on the quarantine has changed since you tried it. Yeah, I hate being trapped in one place and so it was really hard for me like at first to have to cancel trips and whatnot, but I'm feeling completely fine now. Yeah, it's weird. It's crazy what it does. I think if you go into the microdosing experience with an issue that you want to solve, it's like a ball of yarn.

So the ball of yarn is all tangled up and you can really untangle the yarn through the experience is what I've found. That's a good way to put it. Yeah, because it strips down your ego and makes it so it's not all about you and you can look at things objectively. That's what, that's in a nutshell what it does. So for people that need help with that or need help breakthroughs, like have a mind tangle going on, like it's definitely beneficial if you go into it with an intention of wanting to heal. I also think like when you're laughing like that on mushrooms, it has to be so good for you.

I always feel so great the next day. Yeah, you feel really good. You're not hung over at all or anything. Another thing I think is important to say and then we can move on to the next question. I did it in nature, no blue light, no TV for eight hours, no screen. That was so important. And we were outside really reaping the benefits. If you do it and you like watch a movie, it's not going to be the same. You have to be outside. Yeah. All right. Okay. Last question. Here we go. Part one. What were you like in high school? In part two, what is advice that you would give to

yourself. I'm going to answer what Lauren was like in high school. First of all, I don't know how she got away wearing the, I don't know how your dad let you out of the house wearing those scandalous clothes. It was way too much. I mean, way too much. Fun fact, I used to shop in the Victoria's Secret lingerie section and I would wear it as a dress. She, I think she saw legally blonde or something. She started bringing her Chihuahua to school. Paris Hilton Day and age. Platinum blonde hair, right? Platinum blonde hair. Obsessed with me. No, that's a, Michael, tell the truth. What would you do if Zaza dressed the way that Lauren dressed? What do you mean?

I would be like, I would like chain her to a wall. I used to put it in my purse and chained in the bathroom. Like, you weren't going to do anything. Oh, my God. He's freaking out. Yeah, that's stressful. Yeah, I don't know. What was she all?

She was, you know what used to piss me off about Lauren? Because I knew, because, so I met Lauren when we were 12 and then everyone knows that's the story now. But then we broke up. And she used to put on this like dumb bimbo act. Right. He was like a bimbo.

Can you say bimbo? Bimbo, people are going to be pissed. Bimbo. She has a bimbo. Bimbo, idiot. She wasn't. She used to act like that. And it used to drive me nuts because I knew her and I'm like,

why are you acting like you're like stupid everybody? Why are you acting like a bimbo? I like saying bimbo. I'm probably going to control. Why were you so obsessed then? Well, you know, it drove me nuts because I was like, okay, there's a really smart girl. I always, back me up with this.

I always believed in Lauren and I saw her potential like from the very beginning. And it used to drive me nuts because I'm like, why are you doing that? Why are you doing that way? Because I just like to play games in high school. But see, meanwhile, she was getting like A's and B's and was like, you know, cruising through. That doesn't make me smart what grades I was getting.

That's not, that's not what it was. The older girls picked on her a lot. I got, she got bullied so bad. I got my car keyed. I got my car written on with marker, my tires slashed, houses toilet paper, you know, names called the whole works. She made herself a moving target though with those outfits and the blonde hair and the chihuahua.

You know what's funny is I just kept doing whatever the fuck I wanted to do and I just did not give them any energy. and that made them get more mad. Yeah. I would, they would call me names and I just would act like, I would just be like, it's so insignificant.

What are you doing? kicking the floor down there? I told yourself, wheel around in that chair. I'm getting excited talking about high school days. Yeah, are you all right? Do you need to talk to someone? I also just,

I feel like I didn't listen to the rules. I just was on Katie Maloney's podcast of Vanderpump Rules, and she asked me this question. I, one year I just, I don't know if you remember this. I just decided one day that I was going to start bringing my lab and my Chihuahua to school. Yeah.

So I just walked on campus that no one could do anything because there was no rule that you couldn't bring your dog to school. So the teachers didn't know what to do. They were flabbergast. 100% there was a rule that you could not do that. And the teachers did do something. No, they didn't. My lab sat in English with me. I had this teacher in high school because we went to the same high school.

And he saw my last name. He's like, oh, I remember your sister. She used to bring the chihuahua to class. All the time. I would sneak the chihuahua in my bag. We used to sneak around. We could say that now. It's enough times passed.

Yeah, we used to sneak around. We got a kid together and probably our exes is going to listen to this show. I was not into you, like, which made you even more into me. You were, we just talked about this. You were kind of into me. I was a loof. I would say I was aloof in high school. That's a good word.

You dipped your toe into Michael to being interested. That sounds terrible. No, I dip my toe in and I was like, okay, like, you know, this is a little too short. This is lukewarm. No, I was very, like, I was very aloof in high school. I think that's a good word. Lauren, if I go 10 minutes down the road, you're hitting me on speed dial. Mimi back me up.

It's true. That's, Lauren was on the deck for, like, 30 minutes earlier and she facetime called us 10 times. That's because Zaza needed a passie. You are fucking obsessed. Okay. Whatever you, like whatever. Remember when he went out of town and you called him like truly 10 times in one day?

That's because I was pregnant and sober and bored. No, that was like two years ago. No, she's, she's obsessed. I do like to annoy you now. She's a freak. I'm not obsessed. I was aloof, like I said, and I was really unstimulated. And I've talked about this a lot.

I wish in high school that they would teach classes on delegates. and being a boss and working for yourself and money management and all these things. I was bored with algebra and, you know, history class. And I'm being honest and Michael's going to get mad that I'm saying this. Because you want me to like really be into history. But I wish that I could be learning more about entrepreneurship and looking back. That's what I think I was craving. You want to know what a secret?

You want to know about entrepreneurship? Yes. Read history. Read people that have done it before. I knew he was going to say that. I told you. I know so well. No, but it's true.

I mean like people like, oh, I would. What was Michael Bostic like in high school? I was the worst. No, you weren't. No, I mean, like school. I was the worst. You were? Yeah, I was, you know that.

I was constantly getting kicked out. C, D student, sometimes B's, but like definitely like a two point something student was not, not a good student. Did not give a shit about any of the classes at all. That's all true. Didn't care. Just to fight. I was too busy doing my own thing, but I'm, I'm sure that you were bad in school. Terrible.

I was too, I was, I was too busy blowing you off to notice. Love to laugh like Corraladillo. You had spiked hair. Everybody had spiked hair then. You loved protein powder. No, that was later. No, that was later. That was in college.

You loved protein powder. In college later. I feel like you wore those shirts that have like the stripes on them. What's that called a pinstripe? No, that was seventh grade. There was a picture of you. You know the one I'm talking about. It's like at your mom's house in a frame.

No, my style. Back me up. My style hasn't really changed that much since high school. It's like literally been like. Oh, your style was awful in high school. No. You think, no, it's so much better now. You're thinking of elementary school.

No, I'm not. Thinking of high school. No, it was really like black jeans, t-shirts, converse. I wear converspecting a lot. Okay. Ooh. Yeah, that's a nice school picture. She just pulled up a picture.

Yeah, okay, great. Okay. It's not good, you guys. He's wearing a pinstripe shirt, like I said. It's not pinstripe. It's a straight black shirt. You were, you were a part of the popular crowd in our grade, but at the same time, you were very unaffected by it.

So I feel like you were friends with everybody and you, didn't lead with the fact that you were popular. You weren't an asshole. And you were never, ever, ever, and I hope that you will say the same thing about me. Maybe you won't. Maybe you will. You were never, ever, ever a bully.

No, I would punch a bully in the nose. Yeah, neither of us were bullies. No, I think that, you know, that's why I'm so quick to, like, clop back of people if they're being bullies. We're all about, like, justice and fairness. Both of us have always been like that. And I dated older guys.

I was hanging. out with the, Michael's, he's getting jealous. I'm not jealous. Why would I be jealous? I'm a little jealous. I literally have a child with you. Little jealous. He's getting flashbacks. jealous.

A little jealous. Slightly jealous. Listen, if I would have known all the things that I know now, maybe I would have been like, hey, guy, you take care of this. Really? Yeah. I mean, listen, you're a handful. You know what I laugh and I, like, if you and I split up, I'm like, good luck to

the next poor guy that's got to put up with this train because you, you're a lot. At least I'm not boring. No, you're not boring, but you are a lot. I'm not boring. Honestly, I would be like. If any of the guy, I'd be like, yeah, good. You want to go for a week. Let's see how you last, buddy.

Oh, okay. It's a challenge. It's not a challenge. I'm just saying like, good luck, buddy. Okay. Is there any other fun bullets you want to talk about in high school? Is there anything? You know, I have a really difficult time remembering back that far.

What about the advice you were going to give to yourself? The advice that I would give to myself is, this is so annoying, but I would, is have more time, introspective time. Like, have more. time thinking about what makes me happy and what makes me tick. I think I sort of floated through high school without really zoning in on what the void was. And the void was that I was interested in potentially running my own business. So by the time I got to college, I was like forced in this box and like had to be tied in this box of like television broadcaster. And I think the advice would be

is it's don't listen to all the outside noise. Let my intuition dictate where I was going. I mean, my advice is kind of in line with that. I would basically go back. Knowing what I, like, is this the assumption knowing what I know now? Yes. I would say, and this is not a knock on teachers, but maybe the school system in general, I would go back and say literally half of this stuff that they're teaching is not going to be relevant to your career path later on.

And so my problem is that you learn, there's a lot of like, let's say like calculus. I get it. You have to learn basic math skills or like, I mean, at one point I was in some class about like mapping city streets. like what the fuck was that about, you know? Pointless. Yeah, there's just certain things that like electively you have to do and like these, you know, they try to put the best curriculums together.

But I think if I could go back, I would say zone in on the things that you're 100% interested in that drive you, they get you excited and just focus on that and let the other shit go by the wayside. I don't think kids can do that though because then they flunk out of school and they can't progress. And like that's part of the problem is it's built on this system where like you can't get to the next level unless you check a box that the system is put in place, which is not the way life works.

Sometimes it's okay though to question the system and the system. status quo. There's nothing wrong with that. But what I'm saying is where I empathize with young kids now is you have to check a box in order to progress within that system. And like for young kids, for example, in high school, like if you get held back, like you literally cannot progress. So I think that's kind of like a flawed way that the school system set up. I think like you should be able to kind go. And it's not, it's not, listen, I don't have the answer to the system. All I'm saying is that there's a lot of stuff in there that I wish I would have let fall by the wayside and focused on more the things that I later had to learn. Like I had to go tell itself. For example, I didn't know anything about

accounting. They didn't really teach you that. I didn't know anything about investing. They don't teach you that. I didn't know anything about how to set up a business or do taxes. You know, they don't teach you about mortgages. They don't teach you how to like buy a problem. They don't even teach you what a refine. There's so many things that they don't teach you in in school that are applicable to your day to day life. And it's stuff that you later have to go and figure out. So I wish that I would have taken more time instead of like, you know, finger painting class or whatever the fuck. They're doing like city mapping class. One time in finger painting class, my ex-boyfriend painted a giant dick on the bottom of his shoe. And he walked. And he walked.

walked around all over school with this dick, and there was dick paintings all over everywhere. That was funny. That was funny. He learned that. I don't know why you're bringing him up. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Also, I just want to say that I learned, and I said this on Katie's podcast today, I learned more being in the restaurant industry from the ages of 14 to 26 than I learned in school. I learned how to multitask. I learned how to deal with different energies, different personalities. I learned how to do, while doing a million things at once, also being effective, I think I just learned people skills. So that's an interesting fact. Mimi, I would love to know, even though I already know, what you

were like in high school and what you would tell yourself 10 years ago before we go. In high school, I feel like you like one year ago. No, I'm going to be 23 next week. So that's going to be like seven years ago. I would tell myself to learn a new language. Ooh, for sure. Like instead of waste. all my time like doing other stuff. I'd learn a new language. Yeah, I smoked a lot of weed. I don't regret that though. It was fun. Okay. Do you still do that? Yeah, I still smoke weed. Not as much though. And I would tell myself to study abroad in college. Yeah, that was a miss for me too. And probably start investing younger or managing my money better. I think you're okay. You're only 23.

No, but you see now, because I would teaching Mimi how to do it a little bit and I'm telling you, like if somebody would have taught me, like, nobody teach me that. Nobody said, like, hey, you get a little bit extra cash. Like, this is what you do with it. Everyone's just like, hey, put in your stupid savings account and you're going to get like, you know, like 1%. Okay, but it's our job as people to go out and find more information and read books. Sure.

But you can't blame someone for that. But I, well, I'm not blaming someone. I'm blaming the way we've set up our school system. It's not necessarily, like there's some good parts of it. There's a lot of it that's just not applicable to the real world. It's just the fact. You know, I wish that part, I actually think it would be beneficial for kids not to be able to go to college right after high school.

Like maybe they get out of high school and then they have to go work for two years. And then they actually kind of figure out during that process what they actually like to do. Then they go back to college and pick, you know, the course they want. Because the stuff that I studied, I have no clue about it. If I would have gone to, if I would have gone and worked and found my path, I would have studied something completely different. Okay. So tonight for your studies, I want you to read the book called Why I'm utterly obsessed with

my wife and do whatever she says and why I fan her and feed her great. when she wakes up. Okay, great. Yeah, I mean, maybe we can dig up that old regional development degree from the University of Arizona and hanging on the wall since that's serving me so well.

Not that I didn't have fun there. I had a lot. If your parents are paying for college, just go to college because they're paying for it's on their dime. I mean, just go party your face off and have fun and meet people. That's good, especially if you go to like an Ivy League school, that's going to make good connections.

But if you have to take on all the bills yourself right out of high school and you don't know what you want to do, maybe take some time off because student debt is a real thing. Okay. Well, Mimi, where can everyone stock you on Instagram? I'm on Instagram, Mimi Everett's with two S's because Instagram won't give me Mimi Everett's with one S. And I'm also on Twitter.

Mimi Everett's with two S's as well, just to keep it cohesive. She fucking loves Twitter, you guys. Yeah, Twitter is like where it's at. She's popping her fucking puss on Twitter. I blocked her on Twitter. Yeah, I posted a picture of Michael when he was dressed up as a girl when he was 11 and he blocked me. I blocked her.

Are you kidding? Oh, maybe I'm blocker. You should have taken a class on how to take a joke. So immature. They didn't teach me that. They didn't teach you in school. And with that, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode. It was a fun Q&A.

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