The Bossticks - Living On The Edge With Taylor O'Connor AKA The Barenaked Cucumber

Episode Date: June 12, 2020

#274: On this episode we are joined by our long time producer Taylor O'Connor AKA "The Barenaked Cucumber". Taylor has made multiple appearances on the show over the years and has produced it with us since day one. Today we are catching up with him to discuss how he's adjusted to quarantine and the world around him.  For Some Of Our Favorite Taylor Episodes click HERE & HERE Or Search for Taylor on our podcast site HERE To connect with Taylor O'Connor Click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep We are all quarantined and spending a lot more time at home. We are also spending a lot more time lounging around in bed. Make sure you have the right mattress to make enhance your sleep. Helix is offering up to $200 dollars off ALL mattress orders and two free pillows for our listeners at www.helixsleep.com/skinny This episode is brought to you by Versed. Versed is the non-toxic, cruelty-free, and vegan skincare brand that's hyper-focused on bringing you real results at prices your bank account appreciates. Their products are made with proven ingredients at skin-changing levels, without the fussy packaging and conventional markups. You only pay for what matters—the goop inside the bottle Get 10% off for first time users when you shop at versedskin.com with promo code SKINNY Produced by Dear Media  

The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

Welcome back, everybody. Welcome back to the skinny confidential, him and her show. My name is Michael Bostic. I'm a serial entrepreneur and brand builder. most recently the CEO of the Dear Media Podcast Network. I am joined today by my wife, the creator of the skinny confidential Lauren Everts. I'm going to do her intro because I'm moving fast

and I'm on a rhythm. We are joined by our longtime producer, been a long time since we've actually done a dedicated episode with him. Taylor O'Connor, also known on this show as the bare naked cucumber, for those of you are like, what the hell does that mean? Search previous episodes, get the full backstory. There's a lot of back catalog. You know, there's a lot going on in the world.

We needed a little bit of a lighter episode, and we thought what better way than to just talk to our kooky producer, Taylor, because he always makes us laugh. He always gives a laugh to him. Taylor, what the fuck's been going on with you during quarantine? You know, I guess this is kind of the little bit more adult,

but something that's like, you know the memes that go around and there's like, there's all those memes about like porn hub and everything on the stuff? That's something that I've been doing a lot, is like, I guess like I haven't consumed a lot of amount of porn, a lot of porn. That's fun. The reason I like talking to you is because that story has,

there was no relation to anything like nobody knew we were going with that we were literally just asking how quarantine was and you started talking about memes and somehow those memes led you to you've been watching a lot of porn well it's because they're fun all those memes i see of like people like there's always like oh like porn hub servers like overload and it is true it's like sitting there and like okay i'm bored you can't go outside i can't do anything so i just go like oh well like time for some time to go to porn hub dot com let's just kick this off with the bang like we always do how much porn are you actually consuming on a day-to-day basis and how many days a week? Let's be honest here. Let's not lie. And keep in mind, be thoughtful with the answer here. Because you do, you do work for me full

time and I want to actually, I'm going to compare this against the hours that you're clocking. I'm always curious to see that, like, because the thing, my whole thing is I'm trying to gauge what a normal amount of consumption is. And then I'm going to say, like, am I, do I fall on like the high end or the low end? I don't know is like, is looking at it like every other day? Is that too excessive? It's not like an obsessive amount, but it's like, you know, you go on there. It's like I'm bored. It's like, okay, time to beat the meat, flog the dolphin. What does it make the one-eyed man spit or the... I'm trying to think of any other ones like I can't think of.

But all those like really good like innuendos of sexual innuendos. Yeah, that's why I wanted to talk to you. Yeah, good fucking morning here. Yeah, I don't, I think we need to, I think we need to get a little bit more granular and like asks, you know, when you're on these sites every other day, like for how long and, you know, for what amounts of time and for and how frequently within those, like is it, you go on every other day, but when you go on, is it multiple times for that day, or is it just once?

No, you should just once. That's like, how long. Don't why. It depends. So like, it depends how motivated I am in the sense of like, if I'm just kind of browsing,

I'm like, oh, you never really know what I'm looking for. You go to that, like, home page, and that you just literally keep hitting that next page. And there's that,

again, it falls, there's the meme from Star Wars where it shows, fuck, what's the guy, Adam Drivers. And he's like, more, more. Kyle,

when he's hitting, like, the next page. Yeah, Kylo, it's like that. You just keep sitting and you keep hitting the next thing. Can you just give us a one sentence answer? One sentence answer. A lot. I mean, I guess I would say a lot. I just like I browse for about an hour. I like to nest. It's like the dog that tries to find a perfect spot. That means three hours. That means three hours. As you browse and you go like perfect like okay like I'm here. I'm happy with

what I found. It's time. If there's one thing I've learned about you over the years and I've known you what since we're 12 years old, it's that whatever you're telling us here is not the the full truth. There's always more. There's always layers. It always starts as like something that's, you know, sounds reasonable. Actually, it's not so reasonable. But in your world, it's reasonable. But as we continue to go on, we discover more and more and more. So like, I'm just going to assume that anytime you say an hour, that means three or four. I'm going to assume if you say once, that means four or five. I'm going to assume if it's a maybe, it's probably a hell yes. And so like, I want everyone that's listening to go into it with the context of that because I guarantee you like you're going to

stumble here during this interview and I'm going to pull something out of you and you're and I'm going to get the truth. I remember once I had to do I was having issues with my computer and I had to call I think it was like Dell support and the woman had to like take control of the computer to like run some program and so she downloaded some like program that was going to like allow like to see what my hard drives were doing if they were like going under stress and she went into like the downloads folder and there was literally just like all this like porn that she was like scrolling through that I had like downloaded in my downloads folder for her to try to find this one thing. It was like so embarrassing because she's like, where is it?

And it was just so awkward. What year are you living in? Why are you downloading for? This was a long time ago. Number one is because quality and I like to be able to, I mean, I need to be able to stream them in HD. It's like those old, the old videos back from when I was in like high school, they're so pixelated and small.

I probably have a lot, a lot of videos that I've downloaded. And I mean by a lot, like I probably have like two terabytes of porn on hard. Now I realize, you know, like, so as many of you know, Taylor's our producer, been our producer the entire run of this show. And what you may not know is that, you know, I still do a lot of the uploading and go back and forth. And like, Taylor and I are always sending sound files. And for whatever reason, sometimes he's like, yeah, that'll be there in about, you know,

five, 10 minutes. And it takes, sometimes it takes hours for you to get a file uploaded. And now I know the reason why is you're completely destroying your hard drive and your bandwidth by downloading. immense amounts of HD porn. And next time you do that to me, I'm going to call you out. I guarantee you, I don't download and upload it upload at the same time. I have a question.

Yeah, of course. If there's someone listening right now and they're like, my boyfriend doesn't watch porn, my husband doesn't watch porn, my significant other doesn't watch porn, what would you guys say to them? I would say is your significant other blind and like have no hands and cannot use like fingers or ears? Like we've already covered this.

Like they're called, those are people that are called liars, Lauren. Well, that's why I'm always curious about is, is it takes a lot for someone to actually admit, hey, I watch porn or they've consumed porn. I think it's because they think if they find it embarrassing, but it's something that a lot of people do. And even if they don't do it, I think the form of like self-pleasure, as you would call it, like everybody does it into some degree. And I think that there are people who think that it's disgusting, but then they do it behind closed doors. Like they're out really like absolutely not.

Absolutely not. Then they go home and they like go down to their porn dungeon. and then they just stream all night. Listen, there's a lot of pain going on in the world right now, but I think one thing that unifies us as people is that people are fucking perverts and they're freaks and they get their and they get their porn on it. And I think that's something all of us as a society can agree on that that's happening. Nobody's unique in the sense of that.

I mean, you get some of the people that are out there and they're, you know, maybe they're in a relationship and somebody's like, you know, my boyfriend would never do that. And it's like, and then he's sitting there nodding. Yeah, I wouldn't. But, you know, that's the exact guy that's doing that, you know. Don't look in your husband's download folder because I guarantee if you do a little bit of a deep dive, you're going to find something.

That's honestly, if I was dying and if I was in my deathbed, I would literally, if I was like, right now, if I was dying, I would say like, come here, come here. I'd be like, please, like, go and delete the downloads folder on my computer. Unless you're that poor IT girl that had to suffer through that with you. So, Michael, are you like watching porn in your man cave? Like, or are you just going to go in the shower? Listen, I'm going to flip it around, sometimes in the man cave, sometimes on the phone, sometimes in the shower.

I'm moving around. But listen, I also would caveat that. that with, and I think Lauren and I've talked about this, sometimes I watch it with you. And also, in addition to that, I would also say that I'm not, like, it becomes a problem when the porn just becomes your reality and you get lost in it and you become, like, addicted to it. So Taylor, like me, you might be like borderline there. But I think a healthy amount is okay as long as it's not interfering with your real life, I think. You know, we've talked about it. There's episodes on this podcast with sex with Emily. You can, anyone that's listening can look it up if you

haven't already heard it. A healthy amount is subjective, though. Yeah, that's true. I mean, some people would say any amount is not healthy. And maybe you have a crazy girlfriend that's going to stab you in your sleep if you do. Like obviously then it's never healthy because you're going to, you're going to be cut. Did you ever see the movie Don Juan? I think it is with Scarlett Johansson. And again, I can't remember the male actor's name, but he, it's about he is in this relationship, but he watches porn like all day, every day. And she has a very no, like a very strict stance of like no porn. And the relationship fails at the end of the movie. I'm fairly certain that he breaks up with her and he goes, like,

I got to have my porn. What's his name? Don, I'm going to Google it. Don Juan. Joseph Gordon Levitt. Yeah, Joseph Gordon. Yeah, he's a good actor.

And it's an interesting movie. I think it kind of went under the radar for it, but it's Scarlett Johansson and she's great in it. It's just, it's an interesting movie because it literally is about this guy's porn obsession. When you're searching for porn, what, what key words do you put in?

I mean, it's usually like more or less go for like the actresses. Like you find the girls you like. No, no, no, no. You're not going to squirt the, question. I know, I mean, I usually don't like search in like, you know, like, P-O-V is always a good one. I mean, who doesn't want to be right in in the action? POV, I've never heard of that one.

You've never heard of P-O-V? Point of you. Point of view. Explain, so you, you guys are actually virtually reality fucking girls. Well, that's, so that's, the idea is like, POV is like the camera's meant to be like the eye site. So it's like the camera sees what supposedly you would see if you're there. I'm not talking about like virtual reality, which is like I've never, that's a whole another thing that I've never I've never gone down that thing but like no you know like the Google Glass they have those what is it I think there's Google Glass is one of them but there's actually like 3D headsets there's like 3D porn I've never I've I don't know anything about it quick break to talk to you about versed you guys have seen versed all over Instagram all over Instagram stories it's pretty and

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go on a computer or iPod phone. Like you just, and you watch it just like how you watch a television show or whatever. Like, you know, you're doing a little bit more interactive, honestly. You know, we're going to get into this weird place soon where like the new norm is you're going to be wearing like those glasses or headsets that go in your head and like be in the world. And like that, that's when I think, like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to like make, I don't know if I'm going to be able to join the future that. I don't know, like, if my wife or somebody came in and I had that headset and I was just like going to town on myself and I didn't know what was going on in the world or like,

I think that we get to a place is a little farther. Taylor, that's, will be the guinea pig. Taylor will be the guinea pig. Well, that's where I think that, that ethically, I think that what people's argument now saying where they're like, oh, like porn is bad. I could see where that starts to transfer into the bad because then if you're like physically or like if you're mentally transmitting yourself to like some sort of like virtual world where it looks real and it feels real and you're really you're in that situation. Then I could see where people would be like, wait a second, he's going in that virtual world again and all he's doing is it's like the, what was the Black Mirror episode where there's the guy in the playing the fighting game. They got the, they put the thing on it.

It just, they go into fight, but then they just end up fucking the whole time. Have you seen that No, we missed it. This is a yes or no question, and I won't take any other answer, but yes or no. Would you say that you're a porn connoisseur? Yeah, I would say that I would. If someone was like, hey, like, who are some attractive porn stars? I'd be able to dabble in some of their names. I mean, I'm good with actresses, of course. Like, if I can go like, these are the classics. There's like the OGs. Let's get really micro with you since we have you here, and I feel like you're full of stories. You're kind of like Michael's bookcase. You never know which book you're going to pull out. So you had an ex-girlfriend talking, we're talking way back in the day, probably like four years ago. Did she have a problem with you watching this much porn? Like, were you like hold on before dinner? Like I need to beat my meat before we go out to have a bite to eat or like.

I've never done that. That's where I think it becomes like an issue where it's like you have like, okay, you have like, you either like brush your teeth and get your hair down or you like throw a quick beat and people are like, I got to throw the beat. No, I'm always. Whoa, stop. We gotta stop now. What do you, what do you mean? I never thought to myself, I'm going to brush my hair. Like, it's not like one of, like, I actually, like, I don't see the relation to those two tasks at all, actually. Like, it's not an issue because I, you never, I never weighed in like the pros and cons. It's either like, wait, hold on. How did we get from, how did you go from like your girlfriend to like asking that?

Lauren asked you a point of question about your girlfriend to like, oh wait, hold on, actually, it's like between combing your hair for your girlfriend or beating me. What are you talking about here? No, because she was saying, did it ever really, she had like an issue with it. No, because like, I've never, the one thing, I don't I don't think I ever have, I don't think I've ever watched porn with somebody, like in any regard. That's one thing. I've, one experience I've never shared. But so that's like, in that regard, it's like, how do you know? Because your porn is so wild that you want to keep it away from your girlfriends. I mean, it's very possible. I mean, especially like, who knows? Like, but the thing is,

is you never know what someone's, what someone's like their barrier to entry is. They may go like, oh, this is soft shit. Like, this is what I like. So you never know. That's what I mean. I love how you avoid the question. though. So you had this girlfriend, you had her for a long time. She was living with you. She lived in your bed, in your room all the time. How did you hide your porn habit? Like what were the, whenever she was gone out of the, whenever she's like, you know, like, oh, I'm out. It's like, perfect time, like me time. Seriously, there were some times that like, I kid you not, where it's like I was browsing, like trying to find like the video. And then like I looked and she's like,

oh, I'm pulling up. So I'm like, oh, shit. So it's like, you're climaxing as you see, like, the lights like pull up to the house. So you know that like, you've got, I've got to like quickly clean up before like she comes in in the room. What else have you been doing in quarantine? Did you take this? This is like, this is years ago because this is like, this is like, it's like six years ago. But still it's like at that, it's like, you got to, you got to, it's like beat the clock. So what the hell have you been doing in quarantine? How do we get you? How does this always happen to us? How do we always get into these weird places with you? Well, the one thing with quarantine that I find interesting and something like I don't really identify with is me being inside, I could I could realistically be locked inside for the next six months and be completely happy.

You remind me of the mount of Monte Cristo. This guy, I'm telling you, Lauren, because I, you know, I see him every day because we're working and we're doing all like Zoom. And I always give him a shit because he's literally got the same three posters behind him and just different colors. They're like the exact same thing. And if you see, if you move his camera around the rest of the room, there's another thing that has six posters that look the exact same. and he keeps trying to tell the team that they're different, but they're not. But I don't think he's even aware of anything that's going on in the world around him. He's just been in this cave alone with this, like, gaming headset in this dark room with his porn.

You're like Rip Van Winkle. Like he doesn't even know that the world has like literally tried to tear itself apart since we've been in the house. And it's just to him, it's just another normal day. It really is. But I think it's because, to me, like, I don't look at being able to go outside and everything, like that's all great. but I can be very happy with very little. Like I'm not someone that needs all these things to be able to feel like if I don't get, if I don't like check these particular boxes that my like daily life is like failing as far.

Like of course, like I like to be able to go outside and I have gone on walks and stuff, which has been interesting going out and like walking around Sala Beach. It's nice to see the world once in a while. Well, it's nice. I've done all the walks before, but it is nice. It just makes me feel like how grossly out of shape I am just in general. Like walking around and I'm like wheezing. I feel like I'm going to die.

You know my dad's restaurants open. I'll say just opened. Oh, I didn't know that they were open. But I love that restaurant. So I definitely want to go back to that. He barely even knows that there was like a pandemic that happened. He's not going to know about an individual restaurant. This guy, he's been locked in this position.

He's basically grown roots into his chair. Let's, I love details. So what's a day in the life of you in quarantine? And be dead brutally honest because I'm going to call you out if you're not. What time are you waking? up? I wake up. It depends. I usually wake up at 8.30 and I'm aware. I don't believe it. But then, so I wake up and then I look at the computer and I do a couple of things. And then I pop back and forth realistically, like the reason that to me, like my schedule is like I do work stuff all throughout

the day, even at night. Like I just, I just last night, I downloaded a bunch of things that I'm hoping to use, which are, again, some new plugins and stuff that I'm pretty excited about. But you're pouring and interrupted that download. When works being done, there's no porn consumption at all. Let's be crystal clear on that. I would surely fucking hope now because if not I'm going to go back. Talk on the Zoom door from HR. Yeah, definitely not.

Trust me, those are not like the what is the thing? Like, don't shit where you eat. Completely separate. So like that's not an issue at all. But one thing that I would say that I think has been fun that I've been able to do is listen to a lot of music lately with my records and stuff. Like that's something that I haven't been able to do over the last, I would say, six months.

So like music and reading comic books and stuff. I don't, the one thing that I always feel like, Michael and you and Lord both read so much, and you guys always have these authors on that recommend all these great books. I don't read books per se, but I do read a lot of like graphic novels and everything, but I always feel like I'm at such a disadvantage. But still, graphic novels are such a great, like, resource for like reading too. If you don't like reading those books. I've read like almost, I don't want to say every because there's so many,

but I've like gone through almost every like year in serious publication of the Batman comics. I mean, you know that, Taylor. And I think that comics are a good escape to go. Listen, I don't care what you're reading as long as you're reading, something. And I think that's a distinguished, like something to distinguish when talking about reading. Like, you know, you don't have to go read the Britannica Encyclopedia or something crazy, like just read in general. Who out there is not able to sleep these days? There is a lot going on with our politics, pandemics, a lot of stuff going on in the world.

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so popular in like the comic book industry. And like, it's not only like boomed, but they're so many it's looked at as like completely different from when we were younger. But it's just interesting how like the times of comic books have changed at the perspective of them. I would like to know you have a little bit of a problem getting out of bed. Like it's hard for you to wake up. I've seen it with my own two eyes when there's been a couple of nights where we drink too much and you slept on the couch or blow up mattress. And you should have started this like you wake up at 830 with like a million messages from me saying, like, how are you? So, but the way that you wake up is very interesting.

You have an alarm clock that is really cool. And I want you to tell the audience all about this alarm clock that way to us. I think this is good. So this is, this is, I'm going to be specific. Just as Lauren, as you always say, be specific. This is, this is a good app. It's called alarmie. And what it does is there's different settings of mathematic equations to be able to

disable the alarm because like the one thing that I know that people do not just myself is the snooze button it's just a button away it's basically saying like hit the snooze button and basically like maybe accidentally not hit the snooze button and then you're you wake up like five hours later and you're like holy fuck like I hit the snoo so to stop that the alarming in order in order to hit the snooze or stop the alarm you need to solve a math equation and it's the easy's too easy because it's like two plus two I mean that I could do that no matter like if I was blacked out drunk or hungover doesn't matter. But then you go to like the higher ones and you're getting these

like square roots and like massive decimal equations where it's almost and you have I think six seconds to answer the equation or it gives you a new one. So you can't take too long either. It came to the point to where I had like a calculator next to my bed because I'd wake up and I'd have to enter it in really quick

to be able to disable the alarm. The real question is is have you ever woken up and not been able to solve it and so you were just fucked? No, I had multiple times. We're When you set it to the higher one, the equations it gives you. And it's like, you can solve it, but can you solve it in five seconds? It's a whole different scenario.

Because it gives you, like, examples. So, like, perfect. Like, this is easy. Anybody can do this. But then when you wake up and you have like five seconds, you're going like, shit. And then it gives you a new one. And it just keeps blaring. Like, the alarm doesn't stop.

It just keeps going. So then you get annoyed. You get irritated. And then your cortisol level start to rise. So that's why it's like, don't use the high. Definitely don't use the high because it's, I had to do it. disable, I had to literally shut down the phone and go to, like, I had to do like a hard reset on it and go to the settings of the phone and disable it as if it's like, I'm not giving permission for that app to be able to use the speaker. And it was a huge ordeal. So that's a fucking hot tip if I've ever heard one. So if you can't, if you can't wake up with an alarm like 99.9% of the population, just use alarm me. And you'll have to solve a square rooted mathematical equation with a calculator by your bed. It is a productivity tip.

Could you imagine if this was a sponsorship? I mean, Alarmie is, they're stock, buy stock now and alarm me because it's going off the chain. I want to know what you've been, like, I want to know what's been going on with your love life in quarantine. And I know you're going to like it all flustered here and freeze up. But I know damn well that you haven't been sitting there like a goody two shoes, not trying to reach out to women, you know, not going, not trying to date, even in a weird pandemic.

Like I know you've been doing something. And I want, I want you to tell us right now what that is. I want you to tell a few listeners that we have what the hell you've been doing. I mean, you can't really see many people. But as far as like I'm really big, not big on like sending like photos or anything of myself, like the sexting game is that. Is that a new development? That's a new development.

No, so I'm saying the sexting game is always something that I like to stay away from because it's never, I think that you can get in hot waters of that, especially with like the boom of like revenge porn and stuff. Like that's a, that's a huge fear of mine. So it's like I never really want to get involved in that, especially you never want to, you don't want to mix the two bridges. Don't lie. How many times have you sent videos or images to women that you have later regretted?

Dick Pick. Honestly, years ago, years and years, years ago, I remember that the one time, no, no, no, this was literally, this was like back in, like, 2012. Or sometime ago. I remember there was a girl that my cousin brought, it was like a friend of my cousins, and we, we, like, hooked up this one time. And I hadn't spoken to her long time. and I don't remember if I actually did send it or did not send it now that I think about it. But I think, oh, I said this is right. I didn't send a photo, but I remember sending like a text message being like, hey, like blah, blah, blah.

Like, oh, like I'm like, I'm horny right now. How about I send you like a photo or something like this? And the message was like, yo, yeah, like, of course, like send it. And I was like in the process of it. And then a follow up message came and said, actually don't. This is so-and-so's fiance. I was fucking with you. Like, she's now engaged and don't send it.

Here's the real story. So you decided to send a rock card photo of your penis to someone. You probably filtered it before and got a great angle. And you sent it and then the fiancé wrote you back. Tell the real story. No, that's one thing. I didn't actually submit it. And that's why I'm like, that's another reason why I'm like, you never really know,

like who's going to get particular things for that. So it's always like, even if I haven't. I mean, of course I have. I mean, I think everybody's sent something something. I'm going to get the real story out of you before the end of this podcast. So you might as well just tell it now. That one I've never, thank God, I've never sent. Like, that's one thing, like, I think it would give me too much anxiety

is knowing that, like, I was just, like, haphazardly, like, sending, like, sliding into DMs with, like, the dick first pick. But you slid into a lot of DMs and have, but not with, not with, not with the dick picks. Because, like, that's the whole thing is, like, you really never know, like, that's, like, blackmail, like, you're getting into, like, such murky waters with that. And it's, like, trust issues. Like, I think trust issues have to be established. before, there's any, like, any, like, sex teen can be taken to that level.

But, like, if those weren't issues for you, you would 100% be sending these, I know you would. No, I just don't think it's, the reason being is, I think it's too forward. Like, I, I kid you not, like, I've received naked pictures from people that I don't even know who they are. They're like, hey, like, hey, what's up? And I'm like, okay, like, number one, you're probably not real. Hold on, hold on. Time out. I've been a human being on this planet for 33 years now. I've been pretty, you know, tech savvy for a while. I never just get random naked pictures to my phone. I'm like, whoa, who's that? Never heard of you. Never received like ever.

Like, you've never received one image of someone just like randomly like naked, be like, hey. Like, I'm not saying that I know that it's real. No, I can, I can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that, like I don't just get random pictures to my phone. They can be like, who the hell is that? Like, I wonder who. Like this one's saying, I'm going to get the real story out of you. You might as well tell us. This doesn't happen more. If you ever got just random photos out of them or not including Snapchat, just like random. One time I got a dick pick text and I wrote back, okay, Tom, thumb. And I never did again. But I really want to know, I want to know who the guys are that are like legitimately like. This is deflecting the conversation to other people.

I want to say, I want to know who the guys are. Yeah. I think like the lead in, like the strong lead in is the dick pick. Like dick pick then like, hey, like what's up? Like what I want to number one, I want to know what guys do that and think that's okay. And then B, I want to know what girls think that that's like, oh, like, perfect. Like, that's exactly how I like to be hit on. Like something happened here and you're, you're changing the subject.

Yep. I like how you went from one and then to be. So we'll all acknowledge that. But I would say that the guys that do that are like you in 2015. Like that. No, I'm telling you, I've never, I've never, I'm not saying I've never, I've never not sent a dip pick, but I've never led with a dickback is what I'm saying. You just said you never sent a dick back.

So I'm saying, I never led with a dick pick. Oh, you know, oh, you never led with a dick pick. but you've sent a dick pick. Oh, yeah, I have. I've sent a couple in my life. I told you, you can't even keep it straight. It started as once, and now it's at a couple. Everyone collect his dick picks and send them to me so I can see.

I'm going to put it on my Instagram feed. Okay, I've heard enough about Taylor's dick right now. I would like to know you guys is both of your opinions on cheating. On cheating. Okay. In what regard? Like the- I want to hear, in what regard?

What do you mean? There's one regard. What's your opinion on the TV? Well, no, because I was saying, is with like a scenario like involved. I didn't know if there was like like you were going to go more in depth with like like person A like they're not. Hold on. I actually no yeah yeah go through the scenarios please let's let's do in what regard are you discussing too. I just mean like is there like no I didn't know like if it was a question like someone was like someone wanted advice about like a

specific like scenario that happened to them like in general like no I think cheating is bad and of course like the one thing that I know is like cheating I think it's hurtful to like a lot of people and of course, like, in some way, I think ever, there's always someone like trying to justify it from both sides, but I still think like the best way to do is to not do it at all. And of course, like, I do mistakes happen? Yes. Is there, are there people that make mistakes? Like, I don't think there's any scenario where cheating is like, okay, realistically. In what regard? I think there's a lot of scenarios that people could be like, well, what about if like, what if the woman or the man is like,

they're in like a very abusive relationship and they're like lashing out there's like a lot of scenarios that i that's that's an acceptable scenario no i'm just saying that there's a scenario no i'm saying that there are scenarios where like people will have different justifications for like different outcomes for it but overall i i definitely think that it should be something that should be avoided my favorite thing about you is that you asked a quite i asked a question that's like a one sentence quick yes or no answer but you somehow turn it into a squared mathematical equation You'd be a great politician. Great politician.

You just completely didn't answer the question. Well, I think there's, if I just said no, I'd like, I don't agree with it at all. I don't think that gives enough context or doesn't give enough insight to the way that I, because I, the world's not black and white and there's like a lot of color to it. You should be a politician. Michael, what's your opinion? Cheating's bad. Don't do it.

There, next question. Okay. I definitely agree with Michael. Like, don't do it. I think in all scenarios that it's bad. Do you have any cheating stories that you want to share with the committee? Have you ever been cheated on? You yourself?

That's what I was thinking of. So there was the girl, like the very religious girl. And I remember. Because you've told this story on this show, but not as maybe as granular. So you dated a woman who was very religious. Yeah, very religious. And she was, and you are not a very religious person yourself. And she was always pushing you to find God or Jesus or whatever.

Go to church and like do all the stuff. And she was like, very self-righteous about it, right? Yes, absolutely. Okay, and so she cheated on you. Yeah, so, and again, yes, like, there is that, like, I guess, like, I think her justification was it was because, like, we'd never had the, like, the official, like, boyfriend, girlfriend, where I, like, didn't go, like, will you be my girlfriend?

But we were, we were dating, like, we went to prom with each other. We were, like, hanging. Like, if we would go walk around, she'd, like, hold my hand. We'd, like, kiss. She'd be, like, come and, like, sleep over. So, like, very, very, like, I was thinking, like, okay, like, exclusive. Like, even if we didn't have, like, the title for it, I was thinking, okay, she's not seen other people.

But then, lo and behold, she, like, absolutely was. And I think I've told the story where, like, I went over there and there was, like, this, like, sex board game, like, all over the place. And that was, like, one of the scenarios where I was like, holy shit, like, something's, something's not going, going right here. And I never really, like, the other time was, like, she had snuck over to the ex-boyfriend's house. and she had hooked up with him.

And she's like, what do you mean? Like, we're not official boyfriend and girlfriend. So that is the scenario. That's like the closest I've ever, it's ever come to me. Okay, so we're going to play a little game. This is called Ask Taylor. These are questions from the audience. Oh, yeah, I'm excited.

And I'll be as quick as I can with the questions. Okay, so Ask Taylor. The first question is having to do with cheating, which is perfect. Perfect. What would you do if you, caught your boyfriend cheating and you're giving advice as the girl. What would you do if you were the girl? Or as the boy?

What would I do? So if I'm the girl and I caught someone cheating, like I'll just, I'll add so hypothetically like walked in or do you want to go as like hypothetically they like were just aware of something? Because like those are two different. You caught them red handed cheating. Ooh,

I'm trying to think that would be a very difficult thing. Because like if you come home and like there's somebody like in the bed, and they're banging that person or they're like they're in the act of it. This is not give, this is, just give the, give the girl advice. She's caught her boyfriend cheating.

Always go on these rabbit, like, put yourself in like some Tarantino movie. Can you just like be real life for a second? Let's, let's imagine two snores. That's the first one is you just are dating someone and you found out they're cheating. And the second one is you bust,

you walk into your bedroom door at home after a hard day's work and your girls in in the room cheating on you. Or, no, you're the girl. You're the girl in the center. I forgot. You're the girl. So you come home and your husband's cheating on you in your bed.

I mean, honestly, I would probably, in bed, I would probably have a much more difficult time, like forgiving someone for that. I feel like in some scenarios, I could forgive someone because it's like, then I'd want to find out, like, why, like, what did I do or like, what did like this relationship do to drive you to that? But you're going to, no, we want to know in, like, what do you do when you catch them? We don't need to go through the whole, like, you know. Oh, I would, I would easily, I would, I would grab. like all their drawer, I grab the drawers, like just start dumping, dumping the clothes on them and be like,

get out. I would, I wouldn't do that. Oh, I wouldn't do that. I'm, I, I would just, I would do nothing. How's that? I guess that would be good too because then it's like, but then you, honestly, like, actually you're right. Lauren, the reason that would be good is because then that person never is, doesn't know when you're going to strike. They're like, are you going to lash out? Are you going, something happened? I don't know. You'll never, you'll never know what I'm going to do because if I caught my has been cheating, I would just do nothing. Sit with that. Let it sink in. That's what I mean is knowing that or never, never being able to be like relaxed and be like, okay, that's, that's like the fearful thing of that. So I think that that regard though, it's like if it's in that space,

I would say it's much, much less unforgivable than something else. But it's just like the emotional thing, like even like thinking of that scenario, like walking in and seeing like someone that you cared for, like in the act with someone else, that would be like rank high as like a nightmare scenario. I don't know if that was the most tangible takeaway. I realized I didn't learn anything from that. I mean, that's a difficult one. Honestly, I would say that's hard. It's very hard to answer because I don't know how I'd emotionally react to that. Even I feel like anything that I said would still probably not be the way that I acted if it came down to it. Thank you for not giving us any value in that answer. The next question is another listener wants to know

what should she do to get more confidence? How can she gain more confidence? Do you have any confidence tips? Yeah, this one of the ones that I actually feel very passionate about. I had an old friend of mine who passed away. But one thing that I really remember him telling me is there was a time that I was like really down to myself and was kind of him and I were at lunch and I was kind of saying, I can't believe. I went out in public and I was wearing, I think I was wearing like ugg boots and like sweatpants and just like a sweatshirt. And then I ran into people that we were in, that we knew in high school. And they were like all out going out and like they were all like dressed nice. And I remember thinking like, oh my God, I look like shit. I can't believe I saw,

like I was out in public like that. And I was kind of like degrading myself. And he said like, my friend said you need to stop. Don't be negative to yourself ever because that you are like essentially like the last line of defense to like the way you emotionally react to specific situations. and that the confidence level inside of you is you should never put yourself down essentially, regardless of what it is. Even if you do something bad, I think it's okay to say, like, okay, that was stupid of me, but I need to take that lesson and become better. And if you use, instead of like going to those steps, if you are negative on yourself

and going like, you're such an idiot, I can't believe that. I think all that does is lower your confidence in anything. So I think like comparing yourself to others is not a way. to go about it because there's always going to be someone that has something that you don't. There's always going to be somebody that's taller. There's always going to be someone that's better looking in your outward perspective. But I think that you need to realize, like, everybody has their own, like, unique aspects. Like, everybody is beautiful in their own way.

Everybody has, like, unique, like, their own personality. They are, they're all, like, funny. And so maybe not, maybe not everyone's not funny. But I think everybody should, I think people lower themselves, or they don't, sorry, I feel like people don't rank them, they rank themselves. lower than they really should. Okay. Can you create a clip for that so I can wake up to that in the morning?

That was very influential. All right. The next question. You know what I will say, Lauren, about Taylor. This is true. I mean, and I actually really like, I respect a lot of things about him, but I respect this the most. Whenever we're out, you know, me and all the boys go out and Taylor's out, like, of all

the guys, like Taylor is one of the first ones. Like, he will go up and spark a conversation with any woman in any place and any bar in any restaurant. He's very like definitely like definitely amidst a lot of confidence. And I can't say that about a lot of my friends, you know, like so. You just there's no, you have nothing to lose. And I always think like if anything like I know people have low confidence and they think of themselves like in a much lesser light than they should.

If anything, like it would be better to exude confidence and be like you should always think better of yourself and then have like then have the hit to reality. So it's like if think that think of yourself is better looking. It's the same thing. It's nine out of ten times, like, something will fail. Like, the whole thing of, like, shoot your shot, it's true. It's like, if you don't do it because you're scared or something, regardless of it's like, you're trying to get a job or you're trying to, like, meet a girl, or you're trying

to do something. If you don't try, you're not going to, there's zero chance of anything coming from it anyways. So what do you really losing by thinking of yourself is better than you really are? All right. Last question to round this out. Let's hope you have a great answer. What is the, this is from a reader. What is the best piece of advice you've received from Michael Bostic?

I would say, like, one of the more recent one that I really agree with is, like, operating from, like, a standpoint of, like, fear of something. The reason that I think that, I just feel like it's, like, it's, like, relevant to right now, but in general, I feel like that, like, when you're scared to, like, try something or to learn something or do something, you automatically are coming from, like, a weakened standpoint because it's out of fear, not confidence or, like, strength. and you're probably just doing it because you're like, oh, I'm scared of an outcome for it.

And I think a lot of decisions when you are scared of something, I think you get into the realm of making poor decisions off of that. So I agree that making decisions off of like a point of weakness is not really. And I guess this connects to that too, is the fact that we are young and we have, like, if anything, like this is the time to like take risks and to really put it on, put everything on the spectrum. Okay, and can we just leave our audience with a maybe yes or no question, maybe like a two-sentence answer?

Have you gotten better with your one-minute problem? I'm telling you, it's the edging. Edging has helped. It helps the reason being is because when you feel like you're going to climax, you're able to, like, I feel like it's almost like a form of meditation or like, it's not happening. What I always think about about this show, like I honestly like think about it so much. and like it's so funny to me like I like I lay in bed sometimes and I'll like wake up actually like kind of like laughing like I'll like actually like like a psychopath like I just like wake up laughing is like imagine you're a new listener and you're not that familiar with this show and one day you land on it and it's like this health expert and he's like teaching about gut health and the next time you land on it and it's like some author talking about something so profound and then like imagine like that's what you think the show is and then one day you just are like hey like I like that one show that I got that great business and advisor, that like great insight from that beautiful author. And then one day you tune into this. And it's like, edging's the answer. Edging is the answer. And edging is really helped. And I think,

I think about that shit all the time and just laugh because some people probably get so thrown by it and so shook. And it's just like, it's just, I'm sure some of our listeners are laughing along with it. It's like such a just a position of, of what we talk about here. And I was just thinking about that way. Give me anything. Just don't give me boring. This show is like a bag of checks mix. You never know what you're going to grab out of it. Today you grab Taylor talking about porn, edging, telling you all about confident. There's a dynamic to it that I think I've never, with both you and Michael, there's one thing that I think, although you guys do have like, Lauren, you have a very specific brand, but I think that the brand of both you and Michael is the fact that it's not so one way. That's the, I think,

the strength to your brand, Lauren, is the fact that you can really talk about anything. And because you don't identify as like the, I'm the like cook. Well, it's like it's a selfish. It's a selfish reason though. It's like it's not because like it's for no other reason that we're both selfish in the sense that like we can't have the same types of conversations over and over and over. Like I think it's so funny. This morning I was doing an interview with Fast Company and it was like so serious about business and the future and all these things that'll come out soon. And then now tonight I'm talking about edging.

And like to me that like it like deep down in my soul makes me laugh so much. Like you know, you're operating and doing all these great things. You could still talk. Like that's what makes life fun. It gets, I could not imagine just doing the same thing over and over again. One thing that, that I will say is like,

if you think of like a specific type of show, like say someone's a like a, she's like a sower or let's say you're like a gardener or something. And your podcast is folk on like landscaping. Hey, like welcome to episode 200 of my landscaping podcast. Like how much variety. That could be,

that could be good too. And I think there's a lot of individuals that do that shit really well. And like, you know, there's a lot of great channels that have built like very specific. specific niches, but I'm just saying, like, personally, I couldn't do it. I don't think more than I have to be able to pepper in some of these types of conversations. I just think it's funny. Okay, so leave our listeners with what edging is so they don't have to go Google it on

their computer at home and then we're going to wrap this up. Okay, this is what I would say, like, okay, the most important thing is like a sex toy, like a male sex toy is like the fleshlight. Like that thing will like really put you to the test. Okay. Like the reason to is like the fleshlight itself, it's a, what it is, it's like, number one, doesn't look like a flashlight at all. It's massive. But that's where you could, like, you could, the, like, using the flashlight, you can actually feel like what it would be like to be having sex with something. I just asked you what edging means. Can you just answer the question? Oh, I thought you asked a different question. What was the, what was the question again? How did you get, how do you get to where you, how do you get into

these, like, where do you, what you said? I thought you said give like a tip for about, Michael didn't love the fleshlight. He tried it. No, I don't love the flashlight either. What are the mechanisms in your brain that get you there? I did not love the flashlight. I think, and I ended up throwing me away. It's super weird. I've actually bought two of them over a period of time. Okay. Can we just get back to what edging is? Okay. Edging is the process of taking yourself to the edge of climax. That's why it's called edging, but then not actually going over the edge. And you're supposed to do it over like a, like it says like 30 minutes or something and you could there's believe it not there's like weird like stamina training things like you can read online where they're like okay like this is like the pace

of it and the idea is to it lowers your sensitivity to the urge of wanting to climax that's what edging is thank you for this enlightening valuable conversation thank you for your wisdom where can everyone find you on your instagram if they want to get creepy tales you die is on my instagram i don't use i don't really have any other social platforms but instagram tales you die and be sure to scroll way, way down so you can get the whole story. Taylor, it's always a pleasure. Thanks for coming on. I know you need to get back to your drop locks download. And guys, as always, are going to be giving away some cheeky, pink, skinny, confidential stickers. All you have to do is let me know your favorite part of this episode on my latest Instagram. I'm sure there's so many favorite parts

that you don't even know where to start. And with that, we'll see you on Tuesday with a completely different kind of episode.