The Bossticks - No, We Can't Grab A Coffee! With Amy Landino - Organizing Your Time, Being Selective, Time Batching, & Calendar Prioritization
Episode Date: October 1, 2019#218: On this episode we sit down with Amy Landino. Amy is the award-winning host of AmyTV, a YouTube series dedicated to helping women go after the life they want. With millions of views and more th...an 300,000 subscribers, she is a leading authority on getting digital attention. On today's show we are discussing time batching, how to say yes to the right opportunities, calendar prioritization, and how to organize your time in the most effective way. To connect with Amy Landino click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by TRUMANS. The coolest cleaning company on the internet. Probably. To receive 50% off your Truman's Starter Kit visit www.trumans.com and enter promo code SKINNY Kit. Truman's. A Better Cleaning Experience. This episode is brought to you by RITUAL Forget everything you thought you knew about vitamins. Ritual is the brand that's reinventing the experience with 9 essential nutrients women lack the most. If you're ready to invest in your health, do what I did and go to www.ritual.com/skinny Your future self will thank you for taking Ritual: Consider it your 'Lifelong-Health-401k'. Why put anything but clean ingredients (backed by real science) in your body? Produced by Dear Media
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And he's a serial entrepreneur.
A very smart cookie.
And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride.
Get ready for some major realness.
Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
There's an opportunity here.
You can be decisive.
You can say yes to people.
and you can also say no to them,
and they're going to have so much more respect for you because you know what you want.
And you can just say, you know what?
That's not going to work for me right now.
You don't have to be a jerk to say that.
Because the alternative is if you don't show up, if you're always late,
I'm sorry, I'm kind of multitasking right now.
I'm on my phone while we're doing this because I got this other thing.
But I said I'd be here, so I'm like, your flake.
Hey, everybody.
How are we doing?
How we holding up?
Welcome back to the Skinny Confidential him and her show.
That clip was from our guest of the show today, Amy Landido.
On this episode, we are coming.
covering a lot of familiar ground, productivity, entrepreneurship, time batching, hacks, skinny hacks.
Are there skinny hacks, learned? I don't know.
YouTube.
YouTube.
Growing, growth, audience.
A lot of things covered.
For those of these who are new to the show, my name is Michael Bostic.
I am the co-host of this beautiful podcast and the CEO and co-founder of the Dear Media Podcast Network.
And across from me, my pregnant wife, anchor baby, baby, her.
Your hungry, hungry, hungry way.
Hungry, hungry, hungry.
Hungry way.
Why am I always hungry?
I'm hungry all the time.
One of our friends, D. Rock was tweeting the other day and he said, what do you fear?
And I said, a pregnant and hungry wife.
We've learned the hack.
She's eating oatmeal right now on the mic, which typically I'm not a big fan of because, you know, cracks.
You're probably going to get some of those haters.
I mean, I can eat you eat to eat notemeal on the thing.
But, you know, it's the lesser of all evils, everybody.
Because if she gets hungry here or hangary, Taylor and I could be in some trouble.
Yeah, I mean, you know what?
When you're pregnant, you have to eat every two hours or you want to just bite someone's head off.
and Michael doesn't seem to understand that fact.
No, I'm getting it after a couple of close calls.
Yeah, he's just getting it.
He's like, I don't understand why you have to eat.
You just ate two hours ago.
Well, the baby's hungry.
Yeah, the baby's hungry.
Like, blame everything on the baby.
The baby needs the baby's fault.
Maybe needs some nutrients.
Michael's monitoring me like my every move.
If I have to get up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night, he immediately like
whiplashes his head around.
I'm on guard.
I'm on call.
Okay, but you're not.
on that much guard because you're not realizing how much I need to eat.
Well, now I'm, what are you eating there? Blueberries?
I'm eating blueberries and oatmeal, a spirulina smoothie with a little papita. How do you say that?
I have no idea what you're eating, so I don't know. I'm not going to try.
And raw almond butter. And then I'm having a little bit of matcha. I'm allowed to have
200 milligrams of caffeine a day. You don't want to go too crazy. You don't want the kid to
come out all jittery. The kid is Michael, you know what Michael pours me a cup of coffee and tell
them, tell everyone you pour me a coffee. I give a little thimble. It's like a little thimble.
Thumbolina.
Is it Thumbolina or Thumbolina?
Thumbulina.
You give me an espresso shot of coffee.
Yeah, it's smaller.
Well, listen, I drink the caveman coffee, you know, and that stuff is like Rocketville.
You know, guys, if you haven't heard about Caveman coffee, you got to check into it.
I don't have time to go on a huge tangent, but I love the stuff.
It's so good.
You know, Tate Fletcher came on the show a couple, I don't mean, how many episodes back?
Get the nitro for me and drink it over ice and just make the sound when you're drinking it.
And just think of me.
pregnant. We go on these tangents sometimes, but guys, honestly, caveman coffee is the best coffee,
but it's too strong for my pregnant wife. So I only give her a little bit of it. You know, I don't want you to be
all whacked out. You're really strict with it. No, I got to protect the asset. So I'm doing a thimble,
an espresso shot of coffee. And then I'll do like a half a macha every day. And it's so weird because
your body tells you when enough is enough. Like my body tells me, okay, I don't want anymore,
which is so weird because I used to drink two cups of coffee a day, like large iced
inuline cinnamon coffee.
I'm still doing inuline cinnamon, but they're not large.
They're little thimbles.
Thimbelina.
All right.
Well, you're fine.
I mean, you don't want to get too wired up.
But at the same time, you don't want to get too wired down because then you get angry and
hangary.
Yeah, you got to balance my levels.
You know what I mean?
A lot of hormones going on.
A lot of issues here.
Now, Michael's decided that this is the right time.
him to lose weight. Well, no, Michael, you have. I don't want to gain that extra pregnancy. I don't
want the, you know, the male pregnancy weight. I got to be careful. Okay, but it's not fair that,
like, I'm gaining all this weight and you're sitting there losing weight. Well, it's a lot of
stress, a lot of, you know, a little stressed out. I'm realizing that I'm losing my freedom
in about three months. So, um, little, little on edge. Yes, but let's, let's not worry about
me right now. Let's get into the show. Guys, we have Amy Landino on the show today. Amy is the
award-winning host of Amy TV, a YouTube series dedicated to help.
helping women go after the life they want.
With millions of views and more than 300,000 subscribers,
she is a leading authority on getting digital attention.
This episode covers a lot of ground like all of our episodes.
Guys, get ready, buckle in.
Amy Landino, welcome to the show.
We're going to get back to that,
but first we're going to discuss Truman's.
Okay, I am so excited about this partner.
I feel like Michael's excited too.
So, you know how when you're walking down the cleaning aisle
at the grocery store and it feels like there's,
it's just like a complicated chemistry lab like it's too confusing i feel like i'm surrounded by all these
different cleaners for different surfaces it's confusing different colors different sense i don't know what's
natural what's not natural i just feel like cleaning it can be a chore you know what i mean that's why
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cleaning supplies, but there is. You'd think all the typical things that we've used over the years
just got the job done. But nope, all of a sudden Truman comes along and innovation is born. Guys,
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Here's what I would do.
I would get the starter kit to start.
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Amy, give us your credentials, your spiel, where you grew up, the whole thing.
Do you have your driver's license on you?
I do.
Do you want a number?
Yeah, give us a number back on social.
From Columbus, Ohio.
I grew up there.
I never left.
Everybody makes fun of it.
And I don't care because it's the best kept secret in this country.
I love it.
People, no, wait, hold on.
Columbus, Ohio, I'm learning more and more.
more about it. There's so many massive businesses that have come out of there. And do you know
what? They're starting to do more live events there and more activations. Like, people in
Columbus don't want people to know about Columbus. I'm learning that. Kind of, but we're also
like apologetically really excited about ourselves. I mean, a lot of people don't know this.
I think we're the number three city in the country for fashion. And I just learned this.
The reason is because of real estate. I mean, like, it makes sense, Victoria's Secret that
L Brands started there. A lot of these companies are based there. So we're, we're big advocates when
you hear about us. But you don't believe that we're not a cowtown.
until you get there, honestly. I'm telling you, Lauren, I'm hearing more and more about Columbus.
A lot of startups. Okay, well, maybe we'll move there one day, Michael. Let's not jump the gun.
Let's just maybe go visit first. It's like a little gander. You guys, I'll take you to dinner. It'll be great.
Okay, so you grew up in Columbus. Take us through that. You know, I was always hiding from the camera.
So I think that's kind of the interesting thing for where I'm at today. My mom was always like,
I'm sorry, what are you doing with your life now? Because now I'm on YouTube, podcasting, speaking,
a lot of other things. But in the meantime, it all kind of spawned from always struggling with
relationships in my life. And I've really realized that that connects to everything that I do,
really trying to understand how to connect with people and never really having that figured out
growing up. Struggling in what way?
Struggling in the way that, you know, like, how do you really make friends? How do you,
how do you care about somebody? How do you treat somebody right? And it wasn't just teaching myself
how to do it, but how did you know you're in a good relationship or you're not in a good relationship,
friends or otherwise? Do you think that stems from family life or do you think of something
Totally. Absolutely. I mean, like my mom divorced very early on. My biological father is not in my life. And so there's a lot of that that I think follows you around and makes you think, oh, I'm not really worthy of anyone's time. So while that's going on psychologically, it's also like, well, how do you make someone feel like you're making the most of their time? All of this connecting to YouTube, I figured out how to make a video because somebody asked me to be in their wedding. And it was somebody I went to high school with. And I was
was like asked last, like somebody got pregnant and wasn't going to fit into the dress in time,
and they asked me to step in for her. Rude. It was a little, but at the same time, I'm like so
grateful that that happened because I was like, there's like six other girls here. I want to be
the favorite. And I came up with the idea to make a video and you're talking about 2006 or something.
It was very early. And I, you know, used my little digital camera you used to have to take with you
on vacation and made a video for her. And I realized at the rehearsal dinner when we played it,
that, of course, she was like excited, but everyone else in the room loved it too.
And I realized that you could make something for one person and affect a lot more people than that.
And that's what turned me on about video.
I didn't know about YouTube before I knew about video.
That's a really, really smart statement.
You can make something for one person and affect a lot of people.
A lot of people think, think, okay, I've got to create this broad thing that's going to reach all these people.
But if you speak to that one person, it speaks to a lot of people.
It does.
And we, this is when we hear the word niche down and we take it seriously, but we also don't.
because we're like, we don't want to niche down. We want to have millions of fans and we want to affect.
You don't get to that point. If you haven't truly understood somebody at the deepest level,
so much that you can talk to one person and then feel like they made that specifically for me,
but then a lot of people feel that way, whether they're actually the avatar or the person that you designed
or not. So when did you start to see like YouTube was something that you wanted to put more focus on?
Like you make one video, then what happens? The first video was on a DVD. So I was like,
this is interesting. How do I, how do I keep sharing this? I don't want to hand out DVDs.
What's the DVD? There's some young people listening. They're like, what the fuck's a DVD?
When I first met Michael in high school, I met you earlier in high school, when we like, fooling around.
You had a fucking full collection of DVDs.
Yeah, I used to. Remember you used to have to carry the binders of CDs and DVDs. Remember they had the big warehouse binders?
The zipper CD thing for the car.
Dorky.
Oh, my gosh. Do you know how many good movies I've shown you?
because of that. That's true. My CDs had like scratches on them at the bottom. I'm like,
make mixtapes and like burn the CD. That's a whole thing, like the skipping disc men on the way
to the bus stop. Oh, the disc man. If you had the shock absorbed disman that didn't skip,
like you were the jam. Fancy. Okay. So you had a DVD. So that first video was on a DVD.
So I was like, well, this isn't going to, how am I going to share? If I make more, where am I going to
share it? Because at that point, my passion became editing. It was in being able to have a creative outlet for the
first time and send something off to the world for people to enjoy. And so that's how I found YouTube.
I was like, oh, okay, there's, there's a place where people are uploading things. Great.
And then I started looking at what was on YouTube and I was realizing this wasn't just a dumping
zone for people's video files. People were creating things specific to this platform. People
were vlogging trips to Target and making it look like it was a huge life experience. And that
was fascinating to me. And so that's when I really started taking it seriously and saying,
Like, okay, good. I have something to do outside of work. I have something I'm excited about. That's when
I started on YouTube and that was really 2009. What was the original content focus? Like what kind of
videos were you creating? Anything I could get any footage of that I could edit. At first it wasn't even
me. It was like, oh, girls night out, I'll bring my digital camera and just film my friends doing
funny stuff and I'll make like a little summary of what our night out was like and use graphics
and funny things to like point out. That was that was it. And then when I realized my friends got
kind of sick of it and they weren't that interesting all the time. I had to learn how to talk to a
camera. And so I started just vlogging my life and I would vlog walking to the dog park with my dog.
And like, I swear the internet has seen my dog. And all of these videos are still up and exist.
Oh yeah. Schmittastic channel is still very much alive and well. What are the tips for vlogging?
It seems like is what's the formula? It's changed so much. Back in those days, you could record your
life and it was amazing. Now you can't just wake up and say I'm going to vlog my day.
There has to be a continuing theme.
Otherwise, people are not going to care.
And I think that's where people miss the mark on vlogging today.
And even so, to say that it's still relevant today is really difficult because it's so competitive
to have good content on YouTube or anywhere, for that matter.
And Instagram Stories is the new vlog.
So it's like, why would you bother doing it on YouTube other than the monetization factor
if somebody can really watch it in real time on Instagram stories?
So the formula is if you actually want somebody to care about what your day is like,
you need to tell them the one thing that they're going to take from this and make a video out of that.
It may look like a vlog to the rest of the world, but you pull them in by being focused on one thing.
I think you're the one that told me that when I interviewed you from my channel on YouTube and you told me to say the message in one sentence before we got into it.
And I never, like I never thought of that, which is so dumb.
What's the same thing like titling blog posts or even titleing podcasts?
Yeah, of course.
What are they going to get out of it and why is it worth their time?
Exactly. I mean, if let's say it's not a talking head video, can you, you'll notice now when you watch YouTube, can you put the absolute best part of the video at the beginning? Because the worst thing that's going to happen is you gave away something cool. But the best thing that will happen from that is, oh my God, what was that I'm going to watch the whole thing and figure out why this, why that was just here. That's what giving away, like here's what we're going to talk about today and letting someone know that you're not going to waste time on your elevator pitch or where to follow you on Instagram right off the bat. You can put those things on screen. Go to town. Just.
tell them what they just clicked play for and they will stay longer and that is the name of the game
right now. If they clicked, make them stay. That's it. You know what? It's so, it's so true.
Like people come on the show sometimes and we also say like, listen, I know if there's a pitch,
if a brand comes on, it's like, don't come on and start selling right away because you're going to
lose people who are going to tune out. Like, tell the story first and then if there's something
to buy it, like the audience is smart enough to say, okay, I'm going to do a public service announcement
for everyone. If you go on a podcast, do not go on with the intention to sell your shit. Like,
I'm sorry for anyone that is going on to anyone else's platform and their main goal is to sell
their class or their ebook or their book or their website. Like, no. Just sell yourself. Like just be
yourself. Have the audience fall in love with you. And then if they like you, they'll continue to
seek you out. This is where I have a hard time with my podcast because you get so many of these PR emails
that's like, so-and-so has a book coming out. And they would like to be on your show. And I'm like,
that's really cool. But like, I like talking to people I'm excited about. So I'm not.
excited about this person yet. So you're leading with the product already. Great. They have an end
game, but like what's in it for me? One of the things we don't do for Dear Media, like operating this
business, it gets asked all the time. People come and say, hey, can I sign with the network? And
if we get to the portal, like, hey, what's your booking process? We don't have any booking agents at
Dear Media. None. So people are asking, we don't, we don't do any booking. We don't do
PR outreach. We don't book people on the shows. Because I think when you do that exactly happens
what you're talking about, right? You get all these publicists and they reach out and say,
hey, this person has a book coming out. Can we go on seven shows? And it's probably going to be people pissed
stop for me saying this. And I'm like, it sucks. It's the same conversation over and over. Nobody
wants to hear you pitch your shitty book. Exactly. Maybe it's a good book. I don't know. And they go
around. And then the worst part is the publicist shows up and they want to sit in the room and they
micromanage the conversations. When we get those emails, most of the time they go in the trash and
they get ignored. And two, we don't let publicists sit in. But three, I think when you get into
that process, where it's just like booking to go sell something, it's the wrong way to do it.
A better way is to just go on and have a great conversation. And then people are smart enough,
hey, I like that person's message. I'm going to go buy whatever they're selling. But
when you just do hard sell, it's like knocking on someone's door and saying, hey, you want to buy this?
He's like, no, people don't like that.
I think when I launch a book again, when I reach out to whoever's show I want to go on,
I'll also lead with a benefit for them without the book.
So for instance, I'll reach out to, you know, say something like a podcast that I want to go on.
And instead of leading with the book, I'll lead with, hey, I'd love to do a podcast swap.
So then that automatically like gives like something to the other person.
And then like if the book comes up at the end, it comes up at the end.
The other thing is that you guys have been working your butts off.
Like you don't have to pitch anyone.
Lauren just has to text me and be like, hey, how's it going?
Just so you know, like, I know you've been seeing my books coming out, but like, is there
anything I can do to help you?
Yeah.
Come chat with me on my podcast because like we have good energy together.
Yeah.
That's how it happens.
Like, because here's the other thing.
I totally believe in I'm not taking interviews for a period of time and I will take them
during a launch period.
So anyone I really do want to do a podcast with, I'd say, hey, sorry, I'm like super booked
until this fall, but do you want to sit down then?
And that's a good way to batch that campaign period of time.
But in the meantime, you're doing the work, you're making the relationships, you're talking
to people, you're meeting people that will allow you to have plenty of opportunities to go
out and promote your book.
And p.S.
It would look terrible for Dear Media if everybody was promoting the same darn person.
I agree.
There's a couple of podcasts networks that do that are, that are Voldemort.
I don't want to be in that business. I don't want to be in the PR business. I want to be in the content
business, right? I want to be in the content value business. I hope people that listen to any of
the shows, including this one, if they're listening to any dear media shows, I want them
be like, that's really entertaining or that's valuable. I learn something. I don't want to be like,
oh, God, it's a PR pitch network. It's fucking annoying. It doesn't, it doesn't work.
So since you're the expert, I want to talk about what makes good content and what the formula
is, and then I want to go heavy into time and time management. So just before we get into that topic,
can you tell us in 2019.
Is that what year it is?
I always forget what year it is.
Don't feel bad.
I quoted somebody today.
I said, we're in 2020.
My brain's already there too.
I don't know.
I don't know.
What's happening?
2020 sounds cool.
So what is the formula and the strategy
to create good content right now today?
We talk about this all the time at Aftermark,
and it is great.
You want to create the next big thing.
You want to create something that's,
whether it's virality or not,
like I hate that term so much.
I hate when somebody's going in with a viral sense.
But no matter what you're doing,
no matter what algorithms,
trying to work. The most important thing when it comes to content is knowing who you're talking to.
And I just said this, but the reality is that if you know somebody well enough, they will tell you
what they want and you don't have to come up with a content strategy. You just serve. That's your job.
When you're creating good content, it's about serving somebody. So if you never go in with
that intention and it's always just like, what's the flashiest, craziest thing nobody's done yet,
you could go all in on that and give it a try and I hope you have a lot of fun at it. And hopefully
there is some part of you that's excited about that alone. But if you're not really thinking about
who this is going to benefit, it's not a long-term play. It's a one-off project, if anything. I really
truly believe that is the heart of everything. Whenever I'm off creatively, things aren't going as well
on the channel. I have to zero in on why is this not working? And the answer is always, how am I not
listening to what these people actually want? Because if I supposedly know them so well,
I must not be listening very well if it's not working. So it just,
comes down to who are you talking to. I believe it in the core of my being. I couldn't agree more.
Okay. So I want to really talk to people that are listening that want to manage their time better.
I think that you're really good at this and we have access to your brain right now. What can someone do to get
started? Maybe three tips when it comes to time. I think biggest thing ever is start looking at your
tasks as things that take time rather than tasks.
and the thing that is going to change the game on that is actually paying attention to your calendar.
I notice so many people who they pull up their calendar and it's very like, oh, here's an appointment
for a birthday party, here's an appointment for this, I'm going out of town on this day.
But there's nothing really in between.
And probably because they have a lot of things that are pretty predictable in their life,
maybe it's like reporting to work from 9 to 5 that may not take up time on your calendar.
But if you're starting to think, oh, this isn't the only thing I care about.
I want to focus on other passions.
I want to focus on other things.
looking at every other pocket of time as an opportunity to do something and giving yourself
breathing room, but taking a task and turning it into a time slot rather than using a task.
Give us, let's say it's Monday. Is it so micro that you're saying return emails? Like what's,
what's the situation on the calendar? Definitely return emails and my project management software,
which is called Trello. Those two are together all the time because they usually go together with what
my workflow is, but that's probably not going to happen until after lunch for me, because I know
how much in the morning I am on it creatively. I need to get any writing done, writing from the sense
that it could be a caption for Instagram, but it's a lot of times it's a format of a YouTube video,
you know, what am I going to talk about? I don't script my videos, but I do have to bullet point
them out because I want to be able to talk to a camera like it's a person, but I also need to
make sure that whenever I go on a tangent, I got to come back. So what's the point of this video,
what's the flow of this video, what are all that?
assets I need, that's better for me in the morning. So first thing in the morning, I literally have on
my calendar a sunshine for an hour, the little sunshine emoji. And it stands for skincare, lemon water,
meditation on some days. I'm not doing it every single day, morning pages and rewriting my goals.
We've talked about the morning pages together. Oh, my God. I think you're the one that told me to
read about that. It's in Julia Cameron's book, The Artist's Way. Yes. And the reason I like morning pages,
which is basically just anything on your mind for three pages.
And it turns out to be like the biggest venting.
Like when you wake up in the morning and you're like,
Lucy woke me up in the middle of night, Lucy's my dog.
Lucy woke me up in the middle of night.
So I didn't get eight hours straight.
I'm super pissed.
You just write whatever's on your mind.
But then it's gone.
You could have used that this morning.
I was pissed off this morning.
You were a fucking grouch this morning.
I had a bad headache.
We're a little bit jet lag still.
I want to go back for one second.
I think something you said in the beginning was really smart about taking a look at
your task and associating time.
it. Right? Like, people write these big to-do lists or they put things in their calendar. I have
done this in my life and it's helped immensely, right? You have this whole calendar like,
okay, it's 30 minutes for this, 30 minutes. And then if you actually start following that calendar
and doing those tasks, sometimes you realize, oh shit, it actually doesn't take that much time.
I turned an hour and a half of phone calls, which was like, this is a while ago, but they were
scheduling three phone calls and it's like 30 minutes, 30 minutes, 30 minutes. And I found
I'm like, why do I need a 30-minute phone call? If we can't get to the point in 10 minutes,
that's it. I mean, doing these podcasts has helped a lot because I know I can have a 45-minute
conversation and cover a lot of ground. I'm like, wait a minute, a business call, 10 minutes. That's
all, when I schedule calls, it's 10 minutes for most calls. And I found, like, I was taking something
that was taking an hour and a half and I condensed in a 30 minutes and got just as much done. So I think,
can you speak a little bit more about like auditing time on tasks? Well, I think that's the thing is
when you start, I can go back two years ago and I can tell you exactly what I was doing
two o'clock on some random day. And the reason that's important is because you can see where
things start to pick up, you know, YouTube videos. I got asked all the time, how long does it
make a YouTube video. I've been doing it for 10 years. Less time and also more time because it
depends on the production. But I can go back and I can look last week, how long did it take me to do that?
The month before, how long did it take me? Things tend to take less time as you become more
efficient and as you start caring about your time. As you start thinking, I don't have eight hours
in the day. I have whatever's next for this thing that I have to do. It also might help you realize
things take longer than you think. And that's important to note too because the next time you have
to do that writing project that you think, oh, you'll get done in an hour.
because you need to and you don't want to actually do it.
Like, oh, no, actually, that's going to take two hours.
Do we need to break that out over a couple of days?
Do I need to batch a period of time?
I'm getting ready to write my second book.
I've batched three weeks for that.
Nothing else on the calendar, period.
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One of my biggest pet peeves is when people complain. And like someone says,
I don't have time for this. I tune out. Because it's bullshit, right? Like, you can look at the
highest performers in the world. They have just as much time as you. It's, at times,
everybody has the same amount. Even if someone's saying, I don't have time for that because it's,
let's say you're making a suggestion to them, like, you should start a podcast and they say,
I don't have time. Okay, that's fine. That's not the answer. The answer is it's not a priority.
Like that's not, that's not on deck for us. That's it.
No, I agree, though, because it drives me nuts.
People say, I don't have time to work out or I don't have time.
You do have time if you make the time.
If you prioritize anything, if you prioritize anything, you have time to read.
I'm just saying this as a blanket statement to everyone.
Warren Buffett makes so much time to read.
If Warren Buffett can do it, you can do it.
30 minutes in your calendar.
I don't want to hear that you don't have a book or you're at the doctor's office.
I use my iPhone.
If you want to read, you make it a priority.
That's right. Absolutely. So I want to go back for a second. So, okay, you were going over three tips for time management. We got to the calendar one and then we got sidetracked. What are the other tips? The other thing is that you know your devils in your life that are keeping you from being more productive. It's usually the- Such as the computer that you keep in your pocket, the phone. That's a big problem for most people. We think we want notifications because they exist. We don't need them. We think we need the phone in the room, but we don't need the phone in the room. We think like Taylor,
We need porn hub on a Wednesday in the bathroom.
Right.
Keep the taboo.
Lauren, don't be hasty here.
So I think that that's really big.
And what's even worse than the phone, I do think there's something worse than the phone.
What's worse than the phone is the distraction that is a human and always feeling like you have to accommodate the human that needs your attention.
Now, if you are a work at home mom and you also watch your kids, that's a conflict between are you actually working or are you watching your kids?
Because there's two different things going on here and you kind of have to figure that out.
but if somebody walks into your cubicle and needs your attention suddenly, like, how do you manage that?
And I think one of the biggest tips is knowing how to say, I'm working on something else right now, I'm in the zone, I really need that respect.
And we don't even ask for it. Most of the time, we're giving so many reasons to our task management gurus of the world saying, oh, but I have kids or I have a husband that's also next to me.
You know, okay, then have you tried talking to them?
Have you, like, how old are your kids?
Do they speak?
Do they hear you?
Like, can you have a conversation with them about what it means when mom's working or whoever?
And that's even worse than this phone going off.
The phone's just an easy thing to look at.
The people who are distracting you, you can start to get really resentful.
I also think there's a guilt element as women.
Like, I notice that I'll feel like I need to call someone or connect with someone or I haven't
had lunch with a friend in a long time.
There's this thing with women that I notice that the guilt.
guiltiness is also like a demon in the room. Oh yeah. I think that holds you back to.
I think it happens with men and women. What do you feel guilty about? I can't wait to hear
that. Yeah, I've never heard you say that in your life. Listen, here's the thing. I know that if I'm
doing a task or spending time with someone, I have to be 100% all in. You want to go to lunch with me?
I don't want to go to lunch with me. I don't want to go there and be distracted and not being
present and not being focused. So I would rather politely just say, you know what, that doesn't work for me.
Because I don't want to go and then be like, that was disappointing. I'd rather just say from the bat,
like, hey, this is not going to work.
Another thing that's controversial,
speaking of, like, people taking your time,
I also am a firm believer that you don't have to answer
or respond to every email.
Oh, my gosh, yes, preach.
I was talking to a person I work with in the office yesterday,
and I was saying, you know, with all the emails I get,
like, say I get 200 a day or so,
it would not be surprising to me if, on average,
I delete 50 of them.
You're brutal about this in a good way.
Some people may be pissed about that,
but here's another thing.
If I know I don't have the time,
if I know I can't accommodate it,
if it's just a cold ask,
Can you do this for me? Can you get coffee?
Talk about your opinion on getting coffee. Just say it.
Well, this is going to piss people off.
No, please say it. This is great. Oh, yeah.
So there's something that I would never think about the cost for, and I'm sorry, like, coffee doesn't make a dent in my wallet.
It's more of a pain in the ass for me to have you buy me coffee. I can buy myself coffee. I can buy myself lunch?
I buy myself dinner. I don't need somebody to do that for me. I don't want it. It makes me uncomfortable.
He hates when people email him and say, can I buy you coffee or lunch and pick your brain?
Yes, because it's like, listen, why don't you just call it what it really is?
Like, you're not doing me the favor.
I'm doing you the favor.
If that goes to anybody, I wouldn't, it's.
It's, let's just call it, it's lazy.
What happens is the person that's asking to pick your brain, and bless you all, I've gotten
many of emails, but bless you.
Can you lead in with a little more in coffee, too?
Like, you're basically putting the responsibility of your own mentorship onto someone else.
Like the ball's in your court.
So if you tell me no, like, then I guess I'll have to figure something else out.
And like, I'm sorry.
I didn't, why is that my job?
position to be a fucking asshole too.
It's like, what are you supposed to say?
My thing, too, is like...
Naval Ravikant used to own the domain.
I don't do coffee.com.
I'm sorry.
He would respond and would say,
Naval, I don't do coffee.
If I'm going to take my time on a Wednesday for an hour to get coffee with someone,
it's going to be my dad, like, who I haven't seen and who I want to make time for.
Like, I think people need to, this whole episode I really want to base around this is
respect other people's time too.
Can you...
Well, here's the last part.
Oh, he's on a tangent.
I'm not on a tangent. It's true. Let's say that I'm working with someone or spending time with them. Don't you want my full focus and attention? And that's my whole thing. It's like if I'm going to respond to this email or engage in business or go to lunch, like I want to make sure that I'm giving 110% of my energy to that. If I know that's something I can't fulfill or can't accommodate or I don't want to drag somebody to kick him down. It's like kind of like leading somebody on a relationship. You're kind of like you're not really in on it. You're kind of like once in a while.
You have experience in that though leading someone on. Yeah, but it's not doing anyone any favor.
So I want to make sure if I'm engaging with anyone, whether it's email, anything, that I'm fully in.
I wish people would see that, like, this is the opportunity in being able to confidently say no.
Because the alternative is that you over-commit, you say you're going to do something, you cancel it at the last minute, and then you flake.
Like, I mean, the number of appointments I had in L.A. this week that didn't work out, that were on everyone's calendar, confirmed, totally happening.
And then didn't, because they just, like, changed their mind, which is kind of YouTuber.
a little bit. But at the same time, it's like, you could have just said no. I would have taken the no
because I would have spent my time working on other opportunities and not letting an entire day
get shot in the foot because of LA traffic. So I had to accommodate the whole day for you.
It can't be a middle thing. It's either got to be a yes or a no. There's an opportunity here.
You can be decisive. You can say yes to people and you can also say no to them. And they're going
to have so much more respect for you because you know what you want. And you can just say,
you know what, that's not going to work for me right now. I think I just heard Gail King say that the
other day. That's not going to work for me right now. You don't have to be a jerk to say that.
Because the alternative is if you don't show up, if you're always late, I'm sorry, I'm kind of
multitasking right now. I'm on my phone while we're doing this because I got this other thing.
But I said I'd be here. So I'm like, you're flake. You know what it is? People have expectations
of people. I have no expectations of anyone. Nobody, not my family, not my wife. Not people that work with
You do expect me to do certain tasks every week.
That's a lie.
No, no.
Don't fucking lie.
You guys put sex on the calendar?
I think that's people's...
No way, don't put sex on the calendar.
I mean, I would.
That's people's downfall is they have these expectations, right?
And then the expectation's not met and they're let down.
For me, I don't have the expectation.
If something happens, I'm pleasantly surprised.
Like, wow, that was really great.
And if it doesn't, I'm not letting myself die.
It's such a problem in human culture, these expectations we have of other people.
It's so bad.
It's so bad.
Because we already do it with followers and likes that we,
that we are deciding how we feel about ourselves based on what everybody thinks. But for us to say that
they get to make that decision about us too, it's like you cannot care so much that somebody decided
no, somebody decided not to work with you, somebody decided not to hire you. You can't have that
expectation of them in the first place when they never even gave it to you, first of all, probably.
Or if they did, it's okay. Life happens. We have to keep giving people benefit of the doubt.
Life's going to happen and it's not going to work out. I mean, I've gotten way too good at this
in 10 years of business because it's like the thing that you guys always think like, oh,
oh, wow, I'm going to be in that publication.
I'm going to be on that thing.
This is going to change my life.
This is going to change everything.
And then it's like, uh, you know, it wasn't exactly a blip on the radar, but it was still
something you wanted to do.
Now I'm like, I'm just wanted to do it.
If that intention's not there and all of it is in the expectation of what the delivery
is going to be, you're going to be so sad.
And that's where YouTube is today.
We're seeing a lot of things shift in this industry because of how many people have
been creating because they had expectations of the audience and they needed that energy in order
to feel good about themselves.
Oh, that's a good one.
And it's tough.
We're seeing public couples breaking up because it's not enough for them anymore to justify
their relationships.
We're seeing people who are like so thrilled to talk to a camera at one point.
Faking weddings.
Faking.
Yeah, sure.
Absolutely.
Should we not have done that?
Just kidding.
Faking our whole relationship.
No, I'm just thinking.
Awkward.
We've just been good friends for this whole time.
Yeah, you were friends.
So, okay, so we got,
I got to do all the sexual favors.
Thank you, Michael.
We got to the second tip.
Is there a third tip for time management?
Yes, I think something I've realized is, like, the coffee,
the thing that gives me the most hives about the coffee is, like,
I don't even want to go down the elevator and walk to the coffee shop.
Like, I'm thinking about the commute.
So I've gotten to the point now where I'm like,
how can I scale absolutely any point in time to the point where I'm like,
I don't care how big or small my apartment is.
I'm working out at home.
I'm not driving to the spin studio anymore.
I'm not spending an hour there.
I'm not doing niceties with the lady at the front of the room.
I'm not going to get back in my car and then do like a selfie.
I'm not doing any of that.
I'm just going to work out because now that one hour workout is so much more efficient at home.
So things like that we can leave the house for.
I'm like, Postmates a coffee to me.
Like I don't even want to do that.
I completely agree with you.
Well, listen, it's even like where expectations are off is.
I'll even talk about something with niche is like, okay, advertisements on podcasts, right?
Let's talk about it.
People, they're annoyed if there's ads on the podcast.
First of all, I'm not expecting you to have to tune in every week.
I'm also expecting if you want, you can fast forward.
And I'm also really not expecting you to go and buy everything if there's an ad.
But at the same time, in the reverse, you can't expect creators to do things for free,
for your benefit every single week.
And so there's a lot, obviously managing not just this podcast, but 30 others.
You know, some people like ads.
Some people don't.
But at the same time, it's like you're getting free stuff from this.
creator every week, they're taking their time.
If you don't want to listen to an ad, fast forward.
If you don't want to buy something, fast forward.
At the same time, respect that, like, they are taking huge amounts of time to deliver you
this content that hopefully you're finding value.
And if you've got to listen to two or three minutes of ads, like, do it.
Or turn off the fucking podcast.
Who cares?
It drives me nuts when people have these expectations of people.
It's self-entitlement, and it's ludicrous.
We just don't live in a world anymore where you can't monetize what you do.
And that's good news.
So for the person that's sitting there saying,
I can't believe you're wasting my time with these ads.
Okay, great.
How did you better spend this hour?
I want everybody to know.
What were you doing while you were listening to this podcast?
Were you doing something else?
Were you multitasking?
That's fine.
Great.
Maybe it was something you can totally multitask at.
But what did you do with the hour after that or the hour after that?
Did you binge on Netflix?
Tell me how valuable your time is because I've been delivering for 10 years.
How many hours does it take you to do a video?
How many?
God, it's unbelievable.
I mean, I'm shooting right now for a new series and it's going to take multiple days.
Like one video.
say it takes, like just like the ju-that you'll post. The upside is if I'm doing like a traditional
talking head video, sit in front of the camera, bang it out and a 15-minute video, it usually takes me
15 minutes to film because I'm just, I know what I'm saying now. And then editing. And then editing's
going to take a good three, four, five hours depending on how fancy I want it to be and it's usually
more like five or six. So that's reverse engineer. If there's somebody that's a viewer,
it takes them maybe 15 minutes out of their day to watch it. P.S. None of that even matters.
Because the one thing that matters about my YouTube video is the title and the thumbnail.
And all of my creator cohorts have 17 different thumb.
is ready to go so they can make changes to a YouTube video so that it actually performs well.
So now you're talking about Photoshop time. Where are those resources? Where's that expertise?
Now I've got to take a Skillshare class. There's so much. Skillshare's the best.
I love Skillshare. But if there's somebody like this is what I'm saying is we put these expectations on people in the public eye are creators, right?
And they say people are annoyed if they have to listen to an ad or they watch something. But if I went to just an everyday person said, hey, you know, I need to take four hours of your time and you give it to me free.
I need you to come do this thing. And I'm not going to pay you anything. But they're like, what the fuck you?
you talking about? And that's what I'm talking about in self-entitlement. You know, there's a podcast,
there's a fast forward button, hit it three times. You're done with the ad. Move forward. Stop whining.
Or don't listen. There's no expectation. I don't give a shit if people like or dislike the ads.
Either listen to free content or don't. Not just this show, but any show. And it irritates me
that people have this expectation, like they deserve something for free. They're out to lunch.
How much coffee did you drink today? No, it's true. It's entitlement.
It's totally entitlement. Between Taylor had curry today, between Taylor's curry.
in the studio and Michael's coffee zing.
This is like a lot for me.
And then those same people reach out and say,
can I pick your brain for two hours?
I know.
Get the fuck out of here.
Oh my God.
And that is why it's okay to have boundaries.
Because if you have them,
at least then you know like why things have to be the way that they are.
And hopefully like you get less upset about it.
I still get the email or, you know,
recently I did get a little bit of like comments.
that was like, this ad was too long.
And what's funny about it is it went long.
It went over because I was so excited about it.
Not because I was over delivering for the brand.
I was trying to over deliver for the audience and the relevancy of the product.
And I just got excited.
So I went over.
I'm the same way.
When I know someone is going to buy what I'm recommending,
because I love it so much.
And then taking it a step further when I know they're going to go tell 10 to 15 friends about it,
I get passionate about it, especially when I'm using it.
all the time and loving it.
Right.
I could just read the ad copy, but I would much rather tell you why in the world I love it.
Yeah.
And so I'm sorry if I'm treating that exactly the same as I would treat any other content.
To me, it's very difficult because if you're not in the industry, you don't get it.
And that's where most of the comments are coming from.
But your time is very valuable.
But so is mine.
And I promise I've over-delivered that I care about it deeply.
And I'm still going to show up for it in the best way possible.
I didn't even want to get on a whole tangent about like partners and average.
and all that stuff. It's just, it's relevant. What I'm really trying to get at is for people to start
questioning their entitlement, right? In every aspect, like, do you really deserve that job?
Did you work your fucking face off? Do you really deserve it? Do you really deserve a great
relationship? Have you been putting in as much time? Like, do you deserve that payment? Like,
life is not fair, right? Like, you either get something or you don't. And I think if people can just
start questioning their entitlements and being out like auditing those entitlements saying, okay,
let's get rid of the expectations and just go through life that way. I think a lot more people
would be freed up and they'd feel a lot more liberated.
And they feel more empowered.
And also, this is why you manage your time.
Because instead of having entitlement or sitting around for that guy to write you back and offer
you whatever job it was or whatever, banking on something that you don't even have guaranteed
whatsoever, you could be more efficient with your time, making more opportunities happen,
having less expectations of everybody, but making it much more likely that something's actually
going to happen because you're meeting more people, you're helping more people, you're doing
more so more people know you exist.
And at the end of the day, we all know that who you know is what matters.
in addition to how hard you work.
You need both, though.
What makes a good thumbnail picture, I guess, is my question entitled,
because you said that that was really important when it comes to your YouTube.
This is the thing that people make a decision on when they're watching your video.
So there's a balance a little bit, but, I mean, these days, it's really about what's going to pop,
specifically because most of your views are coming from the YouTube homepage, and that could be anybody.
That could be subscribers.
It could be people just watching YouTube.
So making sure it's really clear is super important because my subscribers.
have understood what to expect from my videos, mine typically have my face in them. Faces do perform
better. If you post an Instagram photo and your faces in it, it does better. If there's too many
faces in it, it's a little bit busy and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. So that's just a
continuing theme. But as long as you make it very clear in the title, what is this video about?
We don't care what episode number it is. We don't care what the series name is called unless it's
a part of the actual title. Say it's my, let's just make this up. Say it's my AM face routine.
Great. What are you calling it?
morning face routine. That's it. Or skincare. It gets specific if you want, but like this is what it is.
End of story. Get the point across in the first like five, six words max because it's going to start
running off into an ellipse and you don't want to end up saying the most important thing at the end
of your sentence in this title because it might not be seen in its entirety for some reason.
But then whatever that says, it needs to have a relevant photo above it. And these days there's
other things. They kind of tease the video for you on YouTube now. It starts to play without
audio because it's like kind of becoming a Facebooky type of world in a lot of that in that sense.
But the photo that is there, which will always be there whether the internet's working or not.
That's the first thing people are going to see visually. It needs to be connected to the title
and it needs to draw in your curiosity of wanting to know what the skincare routine is.
So a good example for that thumbnail would be like for you to hold up, what's one of your
favorite hotel things like olive oil or grape seed oil or something?
Okay.
Like you could hold that up and people be like, why is she holding olive oil if this is
her morning skincare routine. Now I'm interested. Now I'm more interested. It's not just a normal
skincare routine anymore. Now I'm going to tap into it. It's smart. Like you're niching down in the
photo, but you're being brought in the title. Yeah. That's just an example. You could put any
products. But the face, the skin and like some really kind of what? That's interesting. Makes you want
to click into the experience. That makes total sense. Talk to me about time batching. Really get into it.
Yeah. There's so many different ways to do this. Like I said, I'm writing a book. So that's like a space of
three weeks. What do you mean? That's a space of.
three weeks. I'm literally not doing anything else for three weeks, but writing a book. So that's an example
of like one big batch. God, you're so good at that. I have to do it because I'm like there's a squirrel,
there's a butterfly. That's the whole point. I tried to do the whole. When I wrote my first book,
the first attempt I made, I was like, oh, here's what I'll do. I'll write for four hours every
morning and then it'll get done when it gets done. You know, that was my strategy. But everything comes up,
things come up, travel comes up, and then you forget what you were even writing about. You're like,
What is the point of this book? So no, then I took three weeks off to write the first book,
and that's why I know it works for me. Because if the goal is three weeks, you take the number of words
you need, you divide that by however many days you have, that's your goal every day. You know when to stop,
you know what you have to do the next day, and you just do it until you get it done. Now,
I work for myself. That's very easy for me to say. Other examples of time batching is if you know
you're most creative in the morning, I know that's my creative time. So after I do sort of a morning routine,
I'm going into whatever creative is going on.
I plan out my entire week on Sunday nights.
So what happens in creative time is, is this writing Instagram?
Is this writing a YouTube video?
Is this the email newsletter or something?
Can you show me your calendar right now?
Like just pull it up?
Sure.
Just so I can just dissect it.
Have you read the book the one thing by Gary Keller?
No, but I've been meaning to.
I think that's like that book's like right up your alley.
Yeah.
Yeah, you have a lot of similarities with that for sure.
I'm not like I won't like go through your calendar.
I just want to just see like how specific it is.
Okay, guys. Color coded. So you can see, I break it down. I have a calendar that's just called me time because it's like my assistant doesn't need to see these appointments and I don't want to bore her with like. Yeah, I got one called Michael Private. Yeah. It's just like. So it's like taking Lucy for a walk. You don't want to look at Michael Private. Michael Private's like masturbate. Like my least favorite appointment on the calendar is when it's a filming day and I have to set aside an hour and I have to do hair and makeup. And that's the like the get ready. I'm going to give you a hack though for this. Okay, go. Get it done. I know. Do not do your own hair and makeup. And please.
If you listen to me on anything, have someone to come in and do it because that's an hour and a half of work.
For sure. I know. And that's what I've been going to like the blowout bar for. I have a membership with them now.
And I'm like, hey, Autumn, I'm good to see you. I'll be doing things while I'm here.
Okay, but she's now so fast that I'm not even done with work by the time she's done.
And makeup done at the same time. I hadn't considered that. I love doing my makeup.
Lauren's like a car going through the car wash. She's got the nail person. She's got the makeup. I look like.
I know. You're so good. I know. No, I'm not. That's one thing I'm good at those hair and makeup.
It's like, you know, like, when you finish, when your car goes soon, you got, like, the buffer and the guy driving out.
I want to know how you get work done while you're getting a facial.
Because, like, I can't even imagine, like, being able to look at my phone while I'm laying down.
I literally get the most work done ever when I'm getting a facial.
I lay there and the girl that does my facial knows I want to work for the whole hour.
And I just hold my phone above my head and work.
It's nerve-wracking because when she's getting a facial, all of a sudden you get machine-gunned on emails.
I mean, I dropped my phone.
Yeah, yeah.
You have to be careful when you're doing the, um...
Dermaplanning.
Dermapalian.
I work the whole time I'm doing Dermalink.
Don't drop your phone during a derma plane.
Shout out to Lindsay at Broughtique for shaving my face.
I just need to have the conversation.
Like, oh my gosh, so excited about what's going on with your family, but I'm going to do work
while you're dermaplaining my face.
Perfect.
Okay, so break down the calendar.
So there's a calendar just called Get Work Done.
And so that's any task.
That's Trello.
That's ordering a product that I need for a video.
Any promo I need to do importing footage, stuff like that, doing any editing whatsoever,
posting on Instagram.
Like, Instagram is an appointment on my calendar because Instagram is a job.
So I have to do that.
Any engagement, YouTube engagement, that's typically after a video launches.
I'll spend time in YouTube engagement.
Same with Instagram after a photo launches.
You've got to spend some time on engagement there.
So there's that.
And then there's like, Amy, you have to leave the house appointments.
Like, you have to leave the office appointments.
And that's how long is the commute?
Where's the coffee or where's the appointment or whatever?
All of that stuff gets mapped out.
Any live online appearances also needs to be color coded because I might just
have a no makeup day and forget that I have like a video interview to do. Everything is color-coded.
And I probably should have more buffer time between appointments, but I would much rather
slam everything out. Feel like I got eight million things done in less than eight hours and then
check out for the day when my husband comes home. Coffee can suck my dick and I'll tell you why.
Can we back on the coffee thing? Chris. No, no, no, you just said coffee. You're harsher than me.
No, I'm over the coffee thing. Like leaving the office and driving to get coffee when you can
postmate it and be so much more efficient. If you want to,
do a call or a Skype. I'm sorry, like everyone's trying to be as efficient as possible. Going to grab
coffee is a two-hour schmood. Yeah, it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing because it's so much harder
to say, like, I'm glad we're having an enjoyable coffee catch up together that has a hard deadline
stop. Yeah, it's awkward. It's just like, I'm not even like, I'm not a fan of breaking up my day either.
Like, let's like work through the day and then go for drinks. You're never going to be able to get me to
an appointment on Monday. There's only one kind of appointment that I allow to break
this rule and it's because I'm involved locally with my community.
I'm just kidding.
That also, but that's too.
But no, there's like the day where I know I'm filming.
And I might take a coffee appointment then because my makeup's already done.
And so I've already made the time for that.
Batching those things, interviews are only going to be on one kind of day because I don't
want to stop in the middle of something and go, okay, now time to promote myself on a show.
Like, it just doesn't make any sense.
I agree.
And also, I think people don't, like for me, Instagram story is such a huge part of my day.
and I want everything to be really valuable for my audience.
Like, I'm not just going to post a picture of weights.
Right.
It's not enough.
There's a difference.
This is what I keep saying to everybody around me.
They're like, you're on your phone getting stuff all the time.
I'm like, I know, but I'm just getting it and I'm going to go deal with it later.
Nobody needs to know where I am right this second.
I'll show them where I am right now in like four to 20 hours from now.
Because at that time, when I'm sitting somewhere in my own scheduled moment of working on content
for Instagram stories, I can show, oh, look, I went and did this getting confidential podcast. Isn't this cool?
I don't have to do that right this second. Right. Who cares? Yeah. Who cares if I do it right now? It's just the fact
that I'm going to share it. I can document it and then share it later. Yes. And I think that that's so
important to be able to document and then share it later because it's like you're living in the moment.
You're documenting it, but you're also not creating in that exact second. Right. We're already good at
this with Instagram posts. Like, don't they say that in the Drake song? Like the girl looks like she's
still in Italy, but she was there like two months ago. That's me right now. She's still sharing the photos.
You know what, though? Italy is a great place for a backdrop. You got to show me. I also like it so people can't track my movements. You never know who's out there. Oh, absolutely. Who's tracking your movement? That's what I'm saying. No one's tracking your movement. I don't need someone popping out of the bushes. I hate to break that to you.
I'd be surprised. Morning routine specifics. Okay. Wake up. Skin care. That's what wakes me up. I don't get excited to wake up in the morning. I get excited after I'm awake. Okay. But I do like to be up around 5.30.
Ooh, 5.30. Yeah. I wake up early.
It makes me feel so good.
It makes me feel so good that I'm actually diving into something that's going to pay off by
6.30.
What time do you go to bed?
On a bad night, it'll be 10.30.
I try to be in bed before 9.30 so I can read and like drift off to sleep.
Okay.
So that looks like, like I said before, it's skincare, lemon water.
I let the dog out so she can go back to sleep and not mess with me for the next hour.
Morning pages.
Meditation sometimes.
I rewrite my goals.
I rewrite all of my goals three times every single day.
And then that's pretty.
much it, and then I roll into whatever creative time is scheduled for that day. So that's usually a two to
three hour block of like whatever I have to focus on, if I have to write something or if I have to storyboard
out of video, something like that. What's a book, a podcast, a resource that you would recommend to our
audience that's provided you with a lot of value? I think a book that people don't talk about enough,
but it's really important to make connections. It's really important to know a lot of people,
but you also have to follow up with them. It's one thing to be like, oh, I met Michael one time,
and I'm going to like call in a favor four years from now.
You need to like have a warm.
Relationship.
So when you do need it, that it actually like would be willing to help you.
A great book that I read about this is Keith Farazzi's Never Eat Alone.
And I don't think that book ever gets enough play.
I always eat alone.
Why does it say to never eat alone?
Well, because this is the other thing I was going to say time batching time with people.
Like do you want a coffee with me?
I'm having a group coffee or I'm going to a happy hour with me.
A happy hour with me.
I'm going to happy hour at 4 o'clock.
So you can have the 4 o'clock.
Susie's going to have the five o'clock, and then I might have a six o'clock if I haven't had too much wine.
But just making the most of those moments where if you got to eat, you can sit down with somebody.
I don't 100% believe with that, but he talks a lot about some really good, just networking tips and networking in the good sense, not networking in the negative sense that everybody thinks it's a bad word.
I should probably clarify a little bit on the coffee thing because people are probably like, oh shit, better never ask that fucking guy for coffee.
It's not even about like going to coffee or getting together or something.
I do that shit all the time.
What it is is the entitlement of saying, like, listen, I need something from you,
so let me get you a coffee and get that from you without providing value.
Like, for me, if I need something from somebody, it's like, let me think of a way that I can
provide a ton of value up front first.
Give them something first.
And then potentially ask.
I'm like, what I have a problem with is people is like, hey, there's a favor I need
from you in this email.
Or, hey, stop what you're doing and get a coffee from me so I can get something from you.
That's what I'm talking about entitlement.
They need to refine their pitch and they need to refine.
their angle and figure out, okay, what's some value I can offer first before I go in for the ask.
Definitely.
Everybody just leads in with the ask.
Can you do me a favor?
Is there something that you can do for me?
It's like, no, no, no.
What can I do for you first?
And then potentially we can build a relationship.
And yes, of course, then I'm going to help you.
But do you get what I'm saying here?
Yeah.
And that's the unlock.
You should never think that there's anybody that's going to be irrelevant.
Like, anytime someone says like, hey, yeah, how's it going?
Like, yeah, I am looking for a job.
Like, they're not necessarily asking, but they're just letting me.
know what's going on with their life, I'm going to find out anybody I know that might be able to help
that person out with that. And if I can't make it happen, then whatever. But the reality is,
if someone's looking for a job and somebody's looking for somebody in that position, I connect them.
I'm their connector. And that's good news. So you should always go in, and this is our marketing
strategy at Aftermark. If we want to work with a client, let's go find them. But start the conversation
with, what are you working on? What can we help you with? Is there anybody we can introduce to you?
Is there something that you like that you want to see more of?
What can we do to connect you to that?
What can we do to be a part of your life in some way and make something cool happen?
So we're top of mind for the right reasons.
The can I just get a coffee thing to me is the equivalent of, you know,
you're sitting on your house on a Saturday enjoying, you know, the ball game, watch TV.
And some random just bangs on your door and's like, hey, you want to buy these candy bars?
Like, what the fuck?
Where'd you come from?
Or like when someone calls you on the phone.
When someone calls me, I'm like, no.
No.
I know. Text me first. I know. I hate when the phone rings more than anything. Remember when those people would show up with the candy bars at your door? Like, where did you come from? Like, how did you get here? How'd you find my address?
Taylor was for sure showing up at doorsteps of candy bars. Taylor, yes or no? Definitely not.
I don't know. I feel like you were. Pimp yourself out. Where can everyone find you? Your YouTube, your Instagram, your book, everything.
Yeah. So, and the podcast also is at Detail Therapy. So Lauren's been on the show. It was a really fun time. So you can check that out. But on YouTube, you can just.
search for Amy Landino in your YouTube app or you can go to YouTube.com slash Amy TV.
Instagram is at Schmatastic.
Awesome.
Follow it just in case.
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Sorry if I got a little fired up on this one.
Yeah, I love it.
Whoa.
It kind of turned me on, actually.
Oh, all right.
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