The Bossticks - Our Family Asks Us Anything: Relationship Advice, Business Lessons & What We've Learned The Hard Way Ft. Mimi Evarts & Drew Nida

Episode Date: October 29, 2026

#1,021: Join us as we sit down with our family Mimi Evarts & Drew Nida! Mimi is Lauryn's sister and Drew is Mimi's fiance and our soon to be brother in law.  In this candid Q&A, Mimi & Drew turn the ...questions on us for the kind of conversation we usually save for the dinner table. We're talking about growing our businesses, keeping up with busy schedules, & figuring things out together along the way. From expensive mistakes to lessons we learned the hard way, we share what's worked, what hasn't, & why things don't necessarily get easier as your business grows. We also get into growing with your audience, merging families, the perspective shifts that come with marriage, & staying your own person while building a life together. Expect honest advice, unfiltered family stories, the lessons about pursuing your ambitions, & the questions that come from knowing us both on & off the mic.   For Detailed Show Notes visit TheBossticks.com   To connect with Mimi Evarts click HERE   To connect with Drew Nida click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   To Shop The Skinny Confidential click HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   This Episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential To Shop The Skinny Confidential x Djerf Avenue collab visit https://theskinnyconfidential.com.   This episode is sponsored by Just Thrive Go to https://get.justthrivehealth.com/pages/skinny and start your gut health journey today.   This episode is sponsored by Paleovalley Head to http://paleovalley.com/skinny for 20% off your first purchase   This episode is sponsored by Tatcha Visit http://Tatcha.com and use code SKINNY for 15% off.   This episode is sponsored by HERS Visit for http://hers.com/skinny to access personalized, affordable care for weightloss, hair, menopause, and more.   This episode is sponsored by Sofi Plus SoFi Plus is the smart way to get more for your money, and you can get started for $10 a month. Head to http://SoFi.com/skinnyplus.   This episode is sponsored by Oh My Mahjong! Visit http://OhMyMahjong.com and use code SKINNY at checkout for 10% off.   This episode is sponsored by Primal Kitchen Find Primal Kitchen Buffalo sauce at your local grocery store or on http://Primalkitchen.com. Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Welcome to the Bostics, starring Lauren Bostic and Michael Bostick. Together, they are the Bostics. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of The Bostics. Take three on the intro. First take, Lauren screwed it up. Second take, Carson had the mics unplugged. But at least there's one professional in the room, yours truly, myself. And today we're doing a unique episode.
Starting point is 00:00:30 We have Mimi, Everts, who many of you guys know, it's Lauren's little sister. You guys like my sister-in-law, is that how you describe it? And first time we're on the show. Drew, no, Drew, wait until I'm done doing the intro. I'm getting a little eager there. Drew, who is soon to be our brother-in-law. Yes. Mimi's fiance, our friend.
Starting point is 00:00:52 And yeah, so that's how you do an intro. Third time, wing it off the cuff. Drew, now you can introduce yourself. Hello, everyone. I'm Drew. Nice to meet you guys. Good job. There you go.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Mimi's here. They're going to get married next October. We're very excited. Lauren's wondering what her part in the wedding is. Well, I think I should be the MJ. MC. MC. Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Do a dance. Yeah, I think I should sing. I can carry a tune. And I also think that I should be the MC at the wedding. Yeah, perfect. And I'm going to be officiating the wedding. Kind of a big ass. To be honest, a little bit of an inconvenience.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Okay, so let's talk about how this came up. Well, let me talk about it for a second. I will talk about it. Oh, you went, oh, how this came out. I was talking about how the wedding thing came up. I officiated a wedding one time. You guys know this. You were there?
Starting point is 00:01:42 You were there? Drew was not there. Mimi was there. Norm was there. I killed it. My friends, Dante and Natalie. I feel like I really did a good job. You did.
Starting point is 00:01:50 And I said, let's end it on a high note. One and done, never do it again. I said, I'm never going to say yes to anyone. And then you guys asked me. And we dragged you back in. Drag me back in. I'm like Al Pacino and the Godfather Part 3. It was cute, though, how you guys asked him.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yeah, when we were in Turks and Caicos for your birthday, that was not necessarily the plan. And I had always said it was going to inconvenience you to ask you. And so I told Lauren, I was like, no, no, I don't want to ask. But she said it was like the perfect night. It was a bonfire. There was s'mores. We were like roasting a skewer. Yeah, it was perfect night. I was really enjoying myself up until that point. Big BJ. I was there. My dad and Julie. And my stepmom and my dad. And my stepmom and my dad. and you guys asked and it was adorable. Okay, so here's how this episode came about. We were all at dinner
Starting point is 00:02:40 and Drew started asking questions about how we've grown our companies and how we have thought about evolving as businesses. And I was like, wait, you should come on the show and ask us these questions. So here we are today. Really what we want out of this podcast is like we've had so many trips with you guys this summer, so many dinners. And we thought it'd be fun for the audience to, you know, sit in and act like we're at one of those dinners. So let's see the cards on YouTube. Show the cards. Oh, you got your own cards. Yeah. Me and Drew. It didn't really come out brown like it. It's like a little magenta. It's okay. I kind of like it's a little, it kind of matches my shirt today. Yeah. It looks good. That's your own brand. Let's not bring it back to you every time. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I always do. I always will. All right. We know. Let's hit it. So one thing that came up is when we were traveling so much this year. Drew had the opportunity to come along with us a few times. And at the end of one of the days when you guys had done three podcasts and ran around, he looked at me and he said, I'm pooped. Just from being there, just from being by you guys. And so we're wondering. Sorry, it was so hard on you that day, though. We're wondering when you have to perform and be at the top level with your health and your business and parenting, what do you let yourself be imperfect on? And just so we're clear, you're asking about our trips when we have a work trip, not a fun trip. Work trip, specific.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah. Fun trips, there's not too much of work. I turn the energy up even higher on the fun trips. We're exhausted for a different reason. Do you go first, Lauren? It's, you know. I look at my life as Ebben Flo. And when I decide to commit to something, whatever, that is when it comes to work, I am all in. I'm going to give it my all. I'm going to complete the task. Not only am I going to kill the tiger, I'm going to kill the tiger, I'm going to skin the tiger, I'm going to filet the tiger. I'm going to cook it, add some butter and a little sea salt, and feed the tiger to everyone. So what Drew might have been experiencing when he said he was tired, I can understand that because I spend so much time making sure that when it's go time,
Starting point is 00:04:57 like an athlete that my output is three times as gnarly as normal. And what I try to do is I try to fit three days into one when I'm working. So when I do take time off, I can fully relax. Well, you know, like when you, in anything life, like when you first start working out, like you say, you've never been in the gym before and you can only do so much. And then like the more you go, the more you can do and then the more confidence you get. So I think what's happened is like we have multiple decades. now of kind of performing it with a high intensity in certain experiences. What I would say is
Starting point is 00:05:34 like we take so much time when we're not in those situations. Like you know, you're just like, we're in the gym. We sleep well. We try to like take care of ourselves. You do these things so that when you get into those situations, you can go. I think like, you know, when we talk on this show about health and wellness and all the things that we prioritize, it's so that in those moments you don't burn out and you can actually go. But I think like what it is is like if you look at like a musician or an athlete, they train all year long. So, that when they do have to go perform, they can do it. And I think we look at it as like, we have to go on a crazy work trip or we have to be out all day or
Starting point is 00:06:03 on night recording or doing meetings or working. And it's exhausting because you've been there. Like you get used to that kind of intensity just by doing it long periods of time. But then when it's time, when you're out of those moments, we take a lot of time to recover. Like this Monday, for example, we were completely burnt out and we were tired. And so we did a sauna and cold session recovery. We eat really well. We go to sleep early.
Starting point is 00:06:23 But then when it's time to perform, we're really intense about it. And I think like the problem is a lot of people, they're either that intense all the time and eventually they burn out and they can't sustain it or they're too relaxed too much of the time. So that when it's time to get intense, they don't know what to do because they're like they're thrown off by it. So for us, we kind of like in a way train ourselves mentally and physically to be able to handle those. But then we spend a lot of time on the recovery side. But to acknowledge, Drew, it is, it is tiring. I'm not going to sit here and be like, anyone can do it. I can do it.
Starting point is 00:06:52 We all can, like it's, you do feel when I get back from a trip like that, I feel. like I need to stare at a wall. Do you think on those trips, because you can't do it all 100%, it's not like you're eating all the right things and doing the workout? So is that where you let yourself kind of have some praise? Where are you guys like being imperfect in your lives per se? Well, I mean, a lot of places like, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:18 there's a lot of times whether you don't have the right diet or whether you're drinking or parting or you're not sleeping well, if you're getting impatient with each other. There's a lot of things where we're imperfect. I think that both of us, though, when it comes to those moments of time, we're just committed to doing the job. Does that make sense? Like, when we go to these places, like, yes, you got to get up early. Yes, you're going to have very little sleep.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yes, you're going to have to work all day. Yes, you're going to have to sacrifice. But then when we're done with that stuff, then we can go and chill out. But to be honest, like, I think there's not like, if you're looking for us, like, when do we slob around and like not? I mean, there's not a lot of, I mean, there's not a lot of, I mean, there's not a lot of that. I slob around. I don't slob around. I don't slob around.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I don't know. I slob around. Here's some ways I slob around. On the day that I get back from a work trip, I will order McDonald's to my house to be there the second that I land. And I want to eat McDonald's on my bed tray in bed and read my magazines. I don't do that. I do. You try to steal one and act like you're really young. You have the McMuffin every now. You're such a liar. No, but I don't like, I'm not a big like, I'm not a big like, I mean, here's the thing. I think that like, What I don't like to do is try to take three steps forward to take three steps back. I think that's hard. I think you just got to maintain it. We slob around with the margaritas once in a while. Are you kidding? We slav around. This weekend in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:08:35 No, but I guess what I'm saying is like if you're asking, I think for the younger listeners or for people that there's like if there's a time where you can just like take your foot off the gas, like there's not really a moment to just like take your foot off the gas. You can date for like a day, maybe on like a Sunday or Saturday. But like it's a pretty consistent pace. It's not super intense and it's not super slow. It's just pretty consistent. But also I will say on those trips to your point, usually we're not working out unless it's like a quick P-volve in the room.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Like I'm not, I don't have a trainer or anything. And the food is not the best food I've ever eaten. Like when I'm in New York City, like it's a lot of pasta. Sure, it's protein, but it's also alcohol. Like, you know, it's, we're going at a lightning speed pace. So it's not perfect. But it's, look at it like this, like, Drina, you work out. Like, if you go to the gym four to five days of.
Starting point is 00:09:24 a week every single week for the majority of the time, then if one week you need to turn it up a little bit and get more intense and go seven days a week, you can handle it, right? If you need to slow down one week and go to like two or three, you can handle it. But it's because you keep a base of like a consistent, like most of the time you have a certain level of intensity. And that's how I think about everything. It's like there's a certain base level that's probably higher than most people on average, but not as high as like someone who's going super intense, but never so low that like I can't get back into it if I need to. It's always like it's like a constant pace. So what part of building the skinny confidential or dear media for you, Michael, has been much harder than you let people see
Starting point is 00:10:05 publicly? Ooh, that's a good question. I think that people do not realize how once it's quote unquote successful that you can't sit back with bonbons and relax. And Mimi, you've seen this with me. Like, I am actually more intense and in my business now than I was when I started it than I was in the middle. It becomes almost bigger, more intense, and harder as you gain success. Because there's a pressure to keep the momentum and the success at the level that you have it. And to do that, you constantly have to be making sure that you have your hands in every area of the business. From the finance to the paid advertising, to the user-generated content, to the affiliate, to the back end of the website, to the flow of the website, to the show, to the show's
Starting point is 00:11:04 guest, to who you're booking, to the research of the guest, to keeping the pace and making sure that you don't take two steps back, but that you're taking two steps forward. And I think for me, that's been the most surprising. I think that I thought when I was younger that you get to this point where you can sit back a little bit more. And I do sit back and I'll tell you how in a second, but you actually have to up the intensity in a different way. How I sit back is I spend a lot of my time thinking. I think people would be surprised at how much time I am in my own head and strategic with myself and meditating and vision boarding and execution boarding and strategizing. There's a lot of that I'm spent in a very introspective state.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And I think that that's also interesting. As you gain success, you actually need to have less access from people and you need to have less distraction. So those two are probably the things for me. I mean, we're in, I agree with a lot of the things she said, but we're in very different circumstances.
Starting point is 00:12:07 And I think what I mean by that is, you know, running a company like Dear Media, I think people see me on this show and they think about the input of the skinny confidential in this show. They don't realize that we have at Dear Media, over 100 employees, however many we have now. We have three offices in three different states.
Starting point is 00:12:24 We have investors on the private equity side. We have over 100 shows at this point. And the majority of my time and you guys see it is managing all of that. What do my team members need? What do the managers need? What kind of agents got? What kind of problem with which kind of show we're representing? What's the issue with the talent this day?
Starting point is 00:12:44 What's going on in the press? How do I have to put out that fire. There's also an intricacy of managing company in three different states with three different state laws. That's difficult. On the private equity side, that's really challenging because you have partners that expect certain things and you have to have certain, you know, you have to keep everybody happy. But the other thing that I think people don't realize that's, that's harder, they see some of the success. Maybe they see us on a vacation or they see some of our lifestyle change. What I don't think people realize is that my job, And my life has gotten harder and harder every single year with more success.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Now, can I afford to go out and buy my groceries? Yeah, do it. Can I go to dinner? Yeah, no problem. Can I take a vacation? Yeah, it's nice. But the challenge that I have to deal with every single day running a company of this size is so much harder than just what it was when we were doing a podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And there's so many different moving parts. And the stress is so much greater because when you're doing something as a solopreneur by yourself, you only have to worry about yourself and your family. Every decision that I make now not only impacts me and our family, but, But it impacts the team members that work with us. It impacts the talent that we represent. It impacts the investors that we have. And it potentially also impacts the thousands of advertisers that we work with across all the different shows.
Starting point is 00:13:58 So it's really, it's a lot harder than people think. And I think that's what people don't see with me is like the majority of my time is spent doing that. Like even you were just at our live event this weekend in Austin. That's like one small thing that we have to do in conjunction with everything else. And so I think people don't realize like running the show is a challenge in itself, but it's running everything else and all the intricacies there that people just don't see behind the scenes on that is really challenging. I think the word is complicated and complex. It gets more complex because there's more dynamic and more moving parts. Yeah. And keep in mind, we have three small children under six, which again, we're not the first people to parent, but you throw that into the mix and then health and wellness, public facing company and public facing show with all of the other things I just described.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I think people only really see it through the lens of like what's on our social. and what's on the show, they don't think about the greater world. One thing that I think that I've realized recently is really challenging, and I think it's something that we've been having a lot of conversations about, is that, Lauren, you started this getting confidential when you were 21. And Michael, you started Dear Media to solve a problem, which was that, you know, the bloggers or the influencers at the time and their agents and their podcasts weren't working together.
Starting point is 00:15:10 It was to solve that problem. And Lauren, you started to solve a problem to build a community. And now you guys have reached a point where the problem is somewhat solved. But you have to figure out something else to do or some other way to grow it and to evolve. So I'm curious with that, is that something that you struggle with to stay motivated and keep wanting to do it after this long? Well, you get paid and like this is just for everybody. I'm not the first person to say this. You get paid in proportion to the size of the problem that you solve.
Starting point is 00:15:39 You solve small problems. You get paid small dollars. you solve big problems, you get paid big dollars, right? Like, that's just, you know, if Elon, and again, people feel a certain way of them, he starts sending rockets to the moon or to Mars and we can live up there, he's going to get paid a lot of money because that's a big problem that he's solving. Jeff Bezos, if he creates Amazon and solves shipping worldwide and, you know, being able to buy any consumer product and just click up a button, like you get paid a lot of
Starting point is 00:16:00 money for doing that, right? So what I would say to people is that, like, the whole point of life in my perspective is to continue to solve bigger and bigger problems, one of the big points in life. And if you ever get comfortable and think that all your problems are solved, like, there's going to be, I promise you, there's going to be another one that hits you in the face. Like, there's always going to be a new or bigger problem. So yeah, we solved a lot of the problems that we were facing then, but then you create something else and there's another problem that's facing.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And you have to solve that problem. And I think you continue to grow as you continue to solve problems. As soon as you stop solving problems, I think you start to stop growing. I think that what has been interesting for me is that when you start so young with a brand, that the consumer that follows the brand or is a fan of the brand grows too as you grow. So you have to make sure that you have your finger on the pulse of listening to the community and the audience and their feedback. We have our TYB community with 45,000. 70.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Are you serious? Yeah, just today. I was on a meeting about it. 70,000 people are in that community. Yeah. It's huge. I think it's one of the biggest ones that they have. I thought it was 45.
Starting point is 00:17:11 It's grown a lot. That is wild. So we have a community with 70,000 people, primarily women. And I want to make sure that I am not speaking to them as a 25-year-old because now they're at a different age. I think it's important with product iteration. I think it's important with your social content. I think you really have to read the room and that's difficult sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:37 To what if somebody, like your audience is experienced? expecting you to be one thing. And now, you know, you've grown up, you have three kids. You're not a blogger anymore. I think, listen, I think following someone on social media can be like a friendship. I think the creator can evolve and maybe the person following them hasn't. And I also think the person following them can evolve and the creator doesn't. Is there something that you think that you've outgrown that your audience might still associate with you, either of you? Listen, like we have been, Lauren's been creating online content since 2010. We've been doing the show since 2016. When she started, we weren't married. When we started the show, we were
Starting point is 00:18:16 just getting married. We've since had three children. We have different businesses. We've grown in our professional careers. We've grown, you know, in the business opportunities that we're in. So, like, a lot's going to change. Also, show me a 20-year-old that still has the same ideas as a 40-year-old. Show me a 30-year-old that still has the same ideas. You change. You shift. So there's probably be certain people that, you know, expect us to still be the same way we were when we were 25. But like you, you evolve, right? Like, you get married. You have children. Your perspective changes. You mature, hopefully. Your ideas shift. And so that, that's going to change. I think, like, the other thing is if you have to, like, whenever, I think what I do is if I'm talking to somebody
Starting point is 00:18:59 that's, you know, Sam on the Dear Media side, if you're creating content just to service an audience that expects a certain thing from you and expects you to be a certain way all the time. You're playing a losing game because what you're doing is you're creating then for something that's not authentic to you that is the expectation of someone else and you're always going to fall short of that. So for us, we just, you know, we just say this is who we are. This is what we're interested in. These are the conversations we're going to continue to have. And hopefully people resonate with it and they grow with us and they appreciate it. But some people are going to fall off.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And I think we're okay with that. I think there's a lot of people and I won't call any content creators out there that is like the slot machine. Like let me do the same thing and hit the same trigger points and the same feel you get feel good stuff all the time. That can work for some people. It works for a lot of people. Actually, if you do that, I think you can actually have a chance to grow much bigger. Like, if we just placated to a certain person all the time or leaned into a certain political affiliation super heavily all the time or just said things to rar, raw people up and make them feel good all the time, I think you'd have a lot more success as a quote-unquote online personality. But it would come at the expense of knowing that, like, maybe it wasn't true to who you are.
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Starting point is 00:23:50 So you've, Lauren, this is a question for you. You've talked about not making a dollar from the blog for the first three years it was running. Do you remember when you personally made your first million dollars? Oh my goodness. No one's ever asked me that. You don't have to answer if I'm comfortable. No, I like this question. I think this is great. Do I remember when I made my first million dollars? Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I was in my 20s. I was in my 20s. Do you remember like that moment? What bank account was it in? Well, Little PayPal waypal. What bank account? Where's our bank accounts now?
Starting point is 00:24:25 No, I know where our bank accounts are. Don't, don't do that. I know where our bank accounts are. Lauren's never been one to like celebrate those kind of milestones. I'm not. I'm going to be really honest. honest with everyone. That is, I love making money and I love having my own money and money I think can give you autonomy and freedom. I think it's amazing. That is not my number one thing. I love having
Starting point is 00:24:49 nice things. That is not what keeps me up at night, right? I mean, be honest. No, the funny thing about Lauren is, is like, she's, and it's funny because you'll see a lot of people provide this advice and it's true. if all you're doing is seeking out money, then I think sometimes you have a harder time finding it, right? Like, it's the people that, like, if you go and put something out of the world that people find valuable, you just focus on that and you're creative or you create a good product.
Starting point is 00:25:16 The money kind of takes care of itself. That's a lesson I wish I learned a lot earlier. Lauren, to her point, likes to live well, likes nice things, likes to be able to do what she wants and have autonomy, but she's not sitting there counting numbers on a board. Right? Like, that's just you've never been that way. I, you know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:25:32 I can remember the first time. I got paid by a brand better than when I made my first million dollars. Interesting. Was it the splits 59? Ah, he does his research. Little research. Little research. Little elbow grease.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I think you can probably also remember the first time when you had to stop struggling with money. Because I remember like this is funny. I don't ever feel like I've struggled with money. That's not the right word. I always knew that I was going to make money. and big things were going to happen. Okay, let me phrase it.
Starting point is 00:26:06 You remember the first time where you had to stop, like were you able to pay your bills without stressing about paying them? Sure. I always figured it out. Don't, I always figured out. I've always figured out a way to be the best at what I'm doing. So when I was a bartender, I knew how to upsell like no other.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You want a guacamole? Oh, did you want the small one, the minuscule one, the micro, or did you want the big fat bowl of guacamole? You better bet every guy like that. Every guy at the bar. Carson wanted the big fat guacamole. No guy's ordering a micro guacamole. You know, if I was in that position and I whispered that into a guy's year, I think I would be punched in the mouth.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I knew how to like, I knew how to like make it work. I feel like a big theme of my life is figure it out. But I remember my first collaboration with splits 59. It was $800. dollars and they told me that they were going to pay me for a blog post and I just remember being on the phone and being like, holy fuck, here we go. Because I had not made a dollar before then. And I had at this point, I had sold so much money, millions of dollars for certain brands. And I hadn't, there was not an affiliate code for me. So I was seeing in the back end all of these clicks
Starting point is 00:27:27 to these brands where I was getting free product instead. So the first, first amount of money that I made for splits 59 from splits 59 was a big deal for me. As far as the first million, that's, I think that as a woman, especially, that was a really amazing moment. But I remember the splits 59 better than the first million. Yeah. I mean, what I would say, Naval Ravikon says, it's like money solves money problems, but it's not going to solve any other problems. So if you have, if you have other issues, like, you know, family issues, if you have happiness issues if you have, health issues, whatever, like money will solve money problems. What I would say is that if your main focus is on money, you're probably going to do things that attract the wrong
Starting point is 00:28:13 kind of money. What I mean by that is I made money early, like I think it was maybe 23, 24 when I made my first million, but I very quickly after lost it because it was in the wrong business and the wrong focus. And the only reason to catch it was because I wanted money. But I had no reason to have the money and no greater purpose. And so funny enough, when I stopped focusing on that. You had to go through a lot self-help with that. What I tell people is I had my midlife crisis at 25. I should have been asking for more presents at that age. No, and I probably would have to give them to you. And now, though I don't have to go through that. But the point is, is like, I think the universe is funny in the way where it rewards people with money that aren't desperately chasing money. That's like anything, though. That's like relationships.
Starting point is 00:28:51 You have to put something valuable out into the world that either helps people, inspires people, enhances people in some way, helps and solve some kind of problem. If you're just seeking out money just to put it in your pocket and there's not really, you know, a good or a use for it for the world, I think it's harder to come by. That's my advice. I mean, that's good. What was the most expensive mistake you've ever made? I'm not going to give everybody the specifics because it's, it's a little sensitive, but I'll give people broad advice. The most expensive mistake I made is setting up the wrong partnership in the beginning of a company that I want to build. I want it to build because a lot of times people go and they say, I'm going to get into business with
Starting point is 00:29:30 this person and we're going to go 50-50 or we're going to, you know, I'm going to take money from this person or I'm going to set up some kind of structure in this way. And it's exciting at the time. You think everybody's going to have well intention. And maybe you give up more than you really need to because you want either the comfort of a partner or you want money that you think will help you or you or you think your friend's going to be right or you like, whatever. However you set something up in the beginning is what it's going to look like in success, good or bad. So one of the most expensive things I've done is set a company up in the wrong way with the wrong person and the wrong structure at the wrong time. And then no matter what, no matter how well you perform,
Starting point is 00:30:06 and no matter how big the thing is, the better it does, the more it ends up costing you. So I would just caution people on thinking about who they get into business with, how they get into business, who they take money from, what kind of partnerships they set up if you're doing that. That's a super expensive mistake. A mistake I haven't made, but what I know is a huge expensive mistake is divorce. If we got a divorce, that would be an extremely expensive mistake at this point. Oh, expensive. It would be the least of your worries. We got no pre-up. So, and I think, I think- We've built everything together. But I'm just saying, here's the thing what people don't think about. It's funny because couples don't think about this. If we split up, you have two separate
Starting point is 00:30:45 incomes now. Everything's taxed in two separate places. You have two separate household expenses. I've already called every divorce lawyer that's the best in Austin, L.A. in New York. So those are out. Typically, like the biggest mistakes that people make financially are those kind of mistakes. It's the wrong partnerships. It's, it's a messy divorce. It's doing something that's avoidable. It's, you know, I've never, I don't, there's not one thing in my life that I've spent money on that I regret. I look at it as like you spent it, you did it, move on. I've never gone on it. I've never, that, that's never cost anything. It's the, it's the other stuff that cost you the most. My expensive mistakes are like little things that add up. So for me, I, I,
Starting point is 00:31:22 am not the best driver. I am Mr. Magoo. I am putzying along like I'm riding a horse and carriage. And there's little dings that happen on the cars. And I've had about 7,000 little dings. So that's one. Another thing is I... You're like in the 40-year-old virgin when that girl is smashing into all the cars. And it's like hands off the wheel. Like your little dings are like full on crashes. She ran two red lights when we were on the way to Pilates yesterday. That was an accident. So bad. That was an accident. You're a very bad driver. I don't think I'm the best driver.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Mark, my friend Mark drove with me the other day and he was like, Lauren, I feel like when God made you, like you just weren't supposed to drive. Like, you should be driven. He's not wrong. So my little dings on my car is expensive. And then also I lose things. I lose things. And so that's been a really expensive mistake over and over and over and over again that I've
Starting point is 00:32:17 had to learn. But business-wise, the most expensive. mistake I've made is doing something because everyone else is doing it and it was inauthentic to me. So like a quick example is like I did a body guide years ago. And I don't want to be the authority on the body. I go to a trainer and it just didn't feel like it was in alignment with me. So that was I shelled out a lot of money for the app for the photos, all the things. And I think that I was in not, I was not in the position to be the authority, if that makes sense. So those are probably my three. I do lose things.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I also think expensive mistakes. Like if you cut corners in business and I've been guilty of this at times, you cut corners and do things a sloppy way, then you end up having to clean them up later or make mistakes or there's a legal issue, like whatever it means. Like it's these things where you're either taking shortcuts or you're setting up bad structures or you're having a bad partnership. Like those things cost the most. The other stuff you can figure out. Okay. Now we're going to pivot. to a different subject. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Family or marriage? Family. Well, let's give a fun fact. Who's one of your best friends, Drew? Your kids? Yep. Zaza, towns, soon-to-be bond. They are obsessed with Uncle Drew.
Starting point is 00:33:39 True. They love Uncle Drew. They do love Uncle Drew. They think Drew's their best friend. My Halloween costume, Grogu, just arrived for when they come over. What are you being again? Brogu. I was going to be salacious crumb.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Yeah, salacious crumb. That's vintage Star Wars. That's like... The only costume I can find is bespoke made, and so it's not going to happen. I don't let the kids down. They're expecting a salacious crumb show up. Can't she just be dressed like a crumb? No, he's not a real crumb.
Starting point is 00:34:04 He's a little pet. He's like a creature. It looks like a gremlin, kind of. Okay. Should I be Leia? No. You wouldn't like if I dressed up as Leia? No, I'm not into that.
Starting point is 00:34:13 What are you going to be? Really? No, I'm not into that. Okay. I would do the two buns. Or dorks. A little. bend over situation.
Starting point is 00:34:21 The Empire strips back. I was never really into Lano. I got a little weirded out about like their brothers and sisters and they were kissing. It was a whole thing. A weird thing. I never got into her. Empire strips back, Taylor. I'd like to know if it's a lot of pressure to be the favorites of the family. You? You. You think I'm the favorite of the family. This was actually originally just for Lauren. And then, but it can also apply to Michael. No, but Michael is more of a favorite than like anybody else.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Well, I'm the favorite now of your family. loves me the most now even above Lauren I think maybe my dad does love my husband it's a lot a lot of pressure to keep to maintain our engagement party drew you tell the story so at our engagement party at the apartment at Jeffries you know Brad's giving a speech he has champagne my my parents are there some of our friends and family are there and you know he congratulates us and turns to Michael and Lauren and says you know what he said Mimi you found such a great guy. He's amazing. He's almost as good a guy as Michael. And then he said, Michael, wow, what you've done. I got like a whole Oscar speech from him. That is like,
Starting point is 00:35:30 what about me? Brad Everett's, that is he, Michael is the favorite of the family. It's endearing. That's a lot to live up to. My dad also thinks that I'm lyrically trained, a Broadway actress, a tennis player, a professional skier, an artist. Well, now I'm calling his judgment into question, if I should even believe that I'm the favorite if he believes all that. Because that's delusional. She's good at some things. Not those things. She can dance.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I can sing. If you don't say that I can sing to the audience, that is not. You've admitted it. Okay. You can't say I can sing. I'm going to sing one time. Was it hard to merge our family with Michael's family when you guys were getting married? No.
Starting point is 00:36:13 But let's give background on that. So Michael's parents, Lisa and Gary, used to go to my mother and father's restaurant, cilantro's, in Delmar. Where we grew up. Where we grew up. And Michael's mom was a badass female polo player, which was a really big deal and is a really big deal. His father was a huge fan of cilantro's margaritas and chips and salsa. And let me tell you something about Michael's dad. He does not play around when it comes to food.
Starting point is 00:36:43 So he loved my parents. restaurant and Michael and I actually like grew up when we were little in the restaurant together, but not knowing each other. If that makes sense. Our parents knew each other though. And then we went to school together and then knew each other and then we dated as kids as everyone knows the story. And then they kind of knew. So like by the time we got back together, everybody kind of knew each other and it was actually pretty easy. It was very easy. And I always had a relationship with Brad. I knew Lauren's mother before she passed and Lauren knew my parents. And so it was like, it was fine. It was fine. And then also like
Starting point is 00:37:11 just like really going into it. Mimi is really good friends with Michael's little. sister Tara and they had this really close relationship in high school. So Mimi was always sleeping over at Michael's parents. And then Michael's other sister, Jordan and I are best friends. So the merge was very natural. It was easy. This is easy. Which we're fortunate because I know like a lot of times it's not easy. How's you guys? How's that going? How's, how's you guys get on? How's, how's, we're doing Thanksgiving together? Oh, first time. First time. Old Wessie Poo is going to join as well. So the whole family is doing Thanksgiving together. All family's doing Thanksgiving. My family's small. It's It's just my mom, my dad, and my sister.
Starting point is 00:37:47 So I'd say, like, the dynamics of my family is a lot different than the Everts-Bossack family. Steve and Jennifer merged great with Julie and Brad. Yeah. True or false. True. Yeah. They're great. And I think that that's really nice for you guys.
Starting point is 00:38:03 When we all got together for your engagement party, everyone was having the best time. And that makes it a lot easier when you don't have to finesse a family dynamic. You know what we do that you taught us? What? Prompts. Oh, tell them about prompts. I mean, you're like the hussar of prompts. You just have to have a list of prompts or a list of questions or a list of table topics so that you don't get into, hey, how's the weather? You know, like that's Jeffersonian style. Yeah, you got to go around and people got to share something about themselves or you got to talk about a subject they have strong thoughts on or they got to tell a story about, you know, you're just don't want to be in a situation where you're sitting at a dinner party being like, hey, what did you think of the weather today? Worst. That's the worst. So, yeah, prompts are good. We have prompts. We ask chat to know each other too. We do prompts every single time we travel. We do prompts at dinner. And me, Mimi, Drew, Michael, we always are out together and we always do prompts. And I think it's been such a great way to get to know each other, even more. Especially when you have new groups because it like, you know, like one of the prompts I think would, what is the one problem? We had this one dinner together when we were out of the summer and it was like, where do you see like, where do you want your career to be in the next 10 years? If you don't know a lot of people, you can like it, you can explain things about yourself that gets them to know about how you thinking about what you want. on in life. Do you know what I did on the first night of our vacation with 12 people? Remember,
Starting point is 00:39:19 I was like, what is your most controversial take? Oh yeah. That really does everyone up. She goes real deep with those takes. I like to go deep, deep, deep. Let's go deep. Sometimes they get a little, you know, explicit. You're not complaining. No, I love it. No. Drew wasn't expecting to go on that trip and the first night hear about how our friends shit in a quilt. So you really learn a lot about each other. Yeah. That's difference in families, I would say, is the dynamics that go on in your guys. Yeah, but Steve and Jennifer are calm. They're cool. Yeah. Come on. I think they fit in beautifully. Yeah. Tacha, you've seen this brand everywhere. They are all about the power of neuro skin science. It all started at
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Starting point is 00:47:05 now at the skinny confidential.com. What is something that you think Mimi assumes is completely normal about this family that I'm about to discover is an Everett's Bostic family thing? Mimi? I don't even know where to start.
Starting point is 00:47:20 That's what I said. I was like, there's so many things. That she assumes is normal. Yes, about your guys' family. Is it I am I? I'm tied in, but I feel like it's more like their family. Listen, I'm you. No, you're in it.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Let me tell you, I'm you in the future, Drew. I'm you in the future, all right? I'm more in it than you because I've just been here longer, but I feel like this is. Maybe you could answer it then. I'm not taking that with a 10-foot pole. I think maybe most young girls drink two buck chuck, Charles Shob. Is it Charles Shob? That's a bank.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Charles, what's it called? Charles Shaw. Charles Shaw from Trader Joe's. I used to drink that all the time, those big disgusting bottles from Long's drugs. Never heard of it. Okay. So Mimi grew up with me hanging out with her who's 10 years older. So Mimi's first glass of wine was a Brinello at the Beverly Hills Polo Lounge.
Starting point is 00:48:16 So Mimi has a little bit of a different gauge sometimes when it comes to curated moments. 100%. I'm a champagne snob now because of you guys. And when I first met Mimi, I actually pronounced Vévue. No, he had never had Champon. He's like, yeah, or champagne. He'd never had champagne. And he was like, oh, yeah, I want to try VEVu. You know what? I love that because I pronounce everything wrong. And I think that's endearing. Well, I didn't know that was the question. I thought it was like, what's something about the family she thinks is normal that you're going to discover is not. Well, what were you going to say? I was going to say there's a lot of chaos that gets prescribed as like, this is like how things
Starting point is 00:48:53 go and I think that like they think it's normal but it's like it doesn't have to be this way. It doesn't have to be this hard. We could just we could just go like straight as opposed to like zigzagging our way there. Sometimes I think that's the fun in that. Yeah. Well, that's boring. And Drew, because like I know you, you're a planner. You like to you'll see.
Starting point is 00:49:12 You'll see. I'm excited. You'll see. It's all good though. It's fun. He's entertained. It's interesting. It's entertaining.
Starting point is 00:49:18 Could be boring. But good luck, Drew. Good luck. So I want to ask this. is there a mindset shift that you have going from an engaged couple to marriage? I want you guys to take yourself back to 2016 before the wedding in Cabo. Is there a mindset shift that you have to have? For me, it was less, meaning I made cuts brutally in areas that I didn't feel I needed to give energy to anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:48 But he's talking about, do you feel like you had to change the way you think about our relationship? Yeah, so I'm going to tell him this. So when I was engaged, it was like a little more lays on fare with a bunch of different friendships or maybe business things. And then when I got married, it was like, okay, now I want to really, really invest my time and energy into my new family. Like, so you have to make cuts brutally sometimes. And I think really commit to your partner.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I think the shift, and it's not just for marriage, but I just think it's in life if you a partner. And I think a lot of, I'll speak for men. Actually, I'll speak for men and women. I think the older you get in life and the more set in your ways you get and the more used to taking just care of yourself you get, the more you used to just only taking care of yourself, right? That's what I'm trying to say. When you get into a relationship, every decision you now make has an impact on another person. And so I think the people that struggle the most in relationships is they want to still maintain such independence and they want every decision to only impact themselves
Starting point is 00:50:51 with the fact of the matter is that every decision impacts your partner, right? Your job you do, if you decide to want to have kids, the way you keep a house, the way you take care of your body, the way you go out at night,
Starting point is 00:51:04 if you're a man or a woman, like, you know, there's implications. We just went to Vegas and had fun, but like the way I have to behave on a guy's trip, I have to be mindful of how that impacts Lauren, especially as someone who has, a public platform. But I think the people that struggle the most in relationships, in marriages, in engagements and long-term relationships, they are still trying to make decisions in their life
Starting point is 00:51:30 as if it only impacts them. When I got into the relationship, I just very much made peace with every single decision I make from how I save, from how I live, to how I take care of myself, to what I do in public, to what I don't. It has an impact on not only what happens to me personally, but then the repercussion effect of what happens to my wife. And then when you have children, what happens to them as well. I think the people that can't like think that way, struggle in relationships. How it affects me is like really important. Yeah, but I think vice versa, right? Like it goes it goes both ways. And again, like I think the people that struggle to have successful long-term relationships, they can't break out of that mindset of only taking care of themselves and they
Starting point is 00:52:08 can't rationalize that every just literally every decision. Like if I, people like this, if I turn to some big bulbous fat ass because I don't take care of myself, I'm eating and sloppy. Too many McMuffins. It doesn't just impact me. It has a, it doesn't just impact me. It has a an effect on her and my children. So I have to think about everything. If I decide to spend irresponsibly and blow our savings, like that affects everybody. If I decide to, you know, literally every single thing you do pretty much has an effect on your partner. And you have to think that way. Final question. What is one thing you think Mimi and I are really good at as a couple and one thing that we need to work on? And you guys can be brutally honest because I think
Starting point is 00:52:50 that it could apply to any couple out there listening. That's a great question. I think the thing that you do best that I admire is that you guys are a unit and you don't talk shit about each other behind each other's back to a bunch of people. I think that's a big mistake in marriage. When I am with a group of girls and I hear a bunch of people talking shit about their husband that's supposed to be their life partner, I personally think that they should take it up with their spouse.
Starting point is 00:53:17 I don't think, I don't want to slop my slop around to everyone. I try to, you know, hold that tight. And I think you both do a really good job of protecting the infrastructure and ecosystem of your relationship. Something that you guys could do better. Why don't you let Michael answer the first one and I'll think? I think what you guys do incredibly well is like obviously like you're in a loving, mature relationship. care of each other, but the biggest thing is like you guys are a lot younger than us. And we've brought you around a lot of much older people that are much further along in their
Starting point is 00:53:57 relationships, in their careers. And you're able to like hold your own and not only hold your own, but then have those people want to spend more time with you, which is a real compliment to both of you individually, but also as a couple. You know, those couples you get around, you're like, oh, can't stand her or can't stand him and you don't want to do it. That happens. And I think you guys are able to integrate with a lot of people that we find to be
Starting point is 00:54:16 impressive and really just kind of hold your own and also like be recognized as a real couple. I think what you guys could do better and what I talk to you both about, but it's not necessarily better. It's just an awareness. When Lauren and I were your age, we weren't around as many older people as we're around now and we weren't exposed to as many things as you're exposed to. You have to make sure that you don't mistake some of those experiences that are maybe from people that are in either more matureders of their career or their lives as the real experience that you're in. For example, if you're with us, you have to recognize like some of the things that we were doing at your age, we were sacrificing in a lot kind of different way.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And so I want you to basically be able to enjoy the experiences of being around a lot more mature people, but also also enjoy being young and struggle as a young person so that you can also have your own success in your life. And you don't want to miss that moment by getting confused by being exposed. Does that make sense? Yeah. And I think it's just important to recognize what you should be inspired by and what you should chase versus what's real and what's not real. Does that make sense? Yeah. Because when you're young, like you've got this moment in time right now. You like you guys don't have children. You don't have as many responsibilities. You don't have financial burdens that are holding you down a certain way. So like now is the time where you can like really push.
Starting point is 00:55:46 you just got to like keep mind of that. But again, you're not doing anything wrong. It's just like an awareness thing. You guys don't do a lot wrong, to be honest. I wouldn't spend as much time with you if you did. Lauren, do you have one? I can't think of anything you do wrong. Like I really can't.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I'm not like, oh my God, Mimi and Drew. Maybe she doesn't want to say it. No, I really am trying to think. I think sometimes you guys could speak up more. Oh, yeah, a little quiet. But again. I think, sure. Yeah, I think you guys have earned your, earned your flowers to speak up more.
Starting point is 00:56:15 What I appreciate about both. of you is you listen really well and you absorb everything. You're both like, you're respectful. Watching and your little sponges and you're like observing everything. But I think sometimes you also got to pick your moment to jump in and assert yourselves a little more, which is hard because when you're either the youngest person or the, or you're not as experienced some other people at table or in the room. Like there's a tendency to kind of like, I think it's actually better to sit back and listen than be the super loud. Not that a lot of people just need to shut the hell up. You guys don't have that problem. But sometimes you do need
Starting point is 00:56:42 to assert yourself just to make yourself known. Well, in this with a little birthday tale. I had a birthday where I invited some of my closest friends to a beautiful dinner in New York City. My friend hosted a gorgeous stunning cocktail appertief appetizer dinner at his house and then we
Starting point is 00:57:00 headed over to a gorgeous stunning restaurant and you two were some of the most well-behaved at the table. Taylor Carson ended up in Times Square, blacked out drunk and then went to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:57:16 He rode a rickshaw to his hotel. Out of control. Listen. Taylor, you know? I don't know still. It wasn't boring. So, you know, somewhere in the middle, you're saying. Somewhere in the middle.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Somewhere in the middle between like two reserved and blackout hospital. Like, we get between there. Perfect. We can do that. Where can people find you if they'd like to say hi? Drew is at Wealth Solutions, right, Drew? Yep, Wealth Solutions with my dad, Steve. We're a financial services firm.
Starting point is 00:57:48 And Mimi. See, Mimi. I'm on Instagram. At Mimi Everett's. Which soon will be changed. Yep. TBD. Mimi and Drew, thank you for putting so much research and thought into this Q&A.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I think this is fun because it's intimate. We'll have to do it again. Thank you for having us, guys. Yeah, that's great. Maybe our next double date dinner on vacation, we'll record it. We'll just bring microphones around. Yeah. Do something light and fun.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Thanks for coming on. Thank you both. Thank you, guys. Love you both.

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