The Bossticks - Real Housewife Tiffany Moon, M.D. On Dallas Housewives, Bullying, Reality TV, Immigration, Beauty Tips, & Putting People To Sleep

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

#473: On today's episode we are joined by Real Housewife of Dallas Tiffany Moon, M.D. Tiffany Moon, M.D. is a mother, wife, entrepreneur, anesthesiologist, and TV personality. She graduated from medical school at the top of her class at the age of 23 and currently is an Associate Professor of Anesthesiology. Today Tiffany joins the show to discuss her journey on housewives, bullying, immigrating from China, and what it's like to put people to sleep.  To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) Check Out Lauryn's NEW BOOK, Get The Fuck Out Of The Sun HERE This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential  The Hot Mess Ice Roller is here to help you contour, tighten, and de-puff your facial skin and It's paired alongside the Ice Queen Facial Oil which is packed with anti-oxidants that penetrates quickly to help hydrate, firm, and reduce the appearance of fine lines and wrinkles, leaving skin soft and supple. To check them out visit www.shopskinnyconfidential.com now.  Produced by Dear Media 

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The way they film it is like you do something. You're at a party. people are nice, people are not nice, whatever. And then you watch that three months later. So then you watch that after someone was just nice, nice to you, they went to a table over here and talk shit about you. And you're watching that three months later. And you're like, damn, I didn't know she said that. You know what I mean?

If you know me, you know I am a huge housewife fan, huge. And I'm a huge fan of this guest today. And that is Tiffany Moon. She is an MD. She is a mother, a wife, an entrepreneur. an anesthesiologist and a TV personality. She was on Real Housewives of Dallas. She is iconic in every way. We are going to talk about how she was born in a small town just outside of Beijing, China. We're going to talk about her childhood. We're going to talk about gerbils up the ass.

Don't ask. You got to listen to this episode. We're going to talk about what it's like to be an anesthesiologist and, of course, housewives, all the juice. We go everywhere in this episode. Taylor, our producer, actually texts me and said, this is a one of his favorite episodes that he's listened to this year because it's a medley. It's like a big bag of checks mix. You don't know what you're going to get in this episode. With that, let's welcome Tiffany Moon, a board certified anesthesiologist who practices in Dallas, Texas. She's a mom and entrepreneur, and she has the brand Oromesthesia, which is a candle company. And my God, do they smell good. On that note, Tiffany, welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her podcast.

This is the skinny confidential, him and her. You were telling me that oxytocin is the hormone. Yes. Of orgasms. When you have an orgasm, your body releases oxytocin. Also, when you breastfeed, it's the feel good hormone. I don't feel like I felt like that breastfeeding. Why am I the only person that doesn't feel like that?

No, no, no. Like, I thought breastfeeding was going to be this magical thing where I bonded with my baby and like, you know, a song came on. And I was like, ow, that hurts. Like, what are you doing? And they wouldn't latch. And then I tried to do two at the same time, like one on each teat. And that was not fun.

And so one would go on and one would pop off. And then I'd sit down and my husband would have to come hand them to me. And then I was crying and they were crying. And then my husband's like, what the fuck do I do? My husband's cry. That's a lot of work to have two sucking on each boob. Like, that's a lot. Yeah.

Is that overwhelming to have two at once? I don't know any different. Like I've never had one. So I don't, do you know what I mean? It's like when people ask you if you like your college and you're like, I don't know, I didn't go to any other colleges. This is the only experience that I've had. I imagine that having one baby would be easier.

I imagine that I wouldn't have stretch marks if I didn't grow, you know, 60 pounds. I'm also blessed because now I'm done. I know. That's, fuck you. Well, you're going to be done too, maybe. That's what we were talking to Dr. Goddier on this podcast who's like a fertility expert. And he's like, if you ever have more,

just like do it with twins and just be done. And that does like kind of sounds like, oh, that sounds kind of nice. Yeah, but also like I had preterm contractions and was on hospital bed rest for six weeks. So like being careful what you wish for. You were, you had to sit still for six weeks. Uh-huh. I was allowed to get up and use the best, the restroom. So it wasn't strict bed rest.

It was called modified bed rest. So your husband had to bring you everything in bed. Like, he didn't do anything. I had a caretaker. He hired someone. Because he still had to go to work. Don't get any fucking idea. He was like here, $30 an hour, give her whatever she wants.

I got to go to work. Wait, so you literally could not get up unless you had to go to the bathroom. Correct. What about, like, bathing? I was allowed one shower a day for like 10 or 15 minutes. Did that make you depressed? No, I shopped online a lot, and my assistant would open packages while I laid in bed. And then I'd be like, oh, yeah, I forgot.

I ordered that. Like baby clothes and skincare. And we watched Breaking Bad. We binged all of Breaking Bad while I was on. on bed rest. And then my husband came home was like, should you be watching such violent, explicit material? And I gave him this look. And he was like, as you were, honey. Exactly. As you were, honey or yes, dear. That's all I want to hear from Michael Bostic, this whole pregnancy. It's so easy. It's like literally a formula. Just keep it, yes, dear.

Yes. Okay. So the reason that I ask about the bed rest thing is because you're an overachieber and we're going to get into it. For you to be sitting in bed for six. weeks seems like it's either I feel like a great break for you or it would be really hard for you because you're so used to doing so much. It was miserable except that I had a paid companion with me and it was our goal to finish Breaking Bad and also we shopped online a lot and I earned an extra board certification in my medical specialty while. That's what I was looking for. Yeah. I knew there was I went to the testing center in a wheelchair. Okay.

Listen, I was trying to get it out of you. I'm like, but what? There was something in there. The lady at the testing center who checks your ID to make sure that it's you before she lets you into the testing room. She was like, honey, you better not go into labor today because I do not want all that drama up in here. And I was like, yes, ma'am.

Okay. So I want to go back to your childhood on Housewives. I'm a huge Housewives fan. I've dissected like every single show. I've watched your whole season. On the season, you owe. open up about your childhood and how I believe you immigrated here. Yeah, at the age of six.

At the age of six. Okay, so let's go back before six. Where were you living? Beijing. Wow. With my grandparents, well, with my parents until I was three, but I don't remember, right? You don't remember zero to three. And then my parents came to America when I was three and left me with my mom's mom

and dad, my grandparents. So all I remember growing up is being in China with my grandparents. And they came out here just. to, they wanted to see, like, okay, let's see if we can go make a life out here and then eventually if we can. Exactly. Michael and I went to Beijing. It's such a culture shock.

Have you been back? We used to go back all the time because my grandparents still lived there, but now they have passed away. So we don't really have a reason to go back. Would you take your twins? When they're a little older, yes, because the jet lag is a bitch. It's like exactly opposite. It is a bitch.

It's terrible. So until it's okay to like give Ambien to your kids. kids, I'm not going to take them to China because I can't even deal with the jet lag. And now I'm asking a seven-year-old to deal with the 13-hour time difference. It's crazy. They need to invent something for that. So when you came here, do you remember being here at six years old in America? Mm-hmm. And where were you? I went from Beijing to JFK. We lived in New York, Queens. I mean, that's a big difference.

It was a big difference. And all I had ever known was hanging out with my grandparents. I was about to start school in China, but I never actually did. And then, they put me on a plane with a flight attendant because my grant we were so poor they couldn't come with me and only i had a visa anyway to come to america so i got put on a plane by myself with a flight attendant who is supervising me and then landed at jfk and like met my parents but i didn't know who they were like i knew they were my parents but i don't know these people because it was it was a three year gap yeah and there was no face time back then this in the 80s i was like yeah these people send a picture from america once in a while like they're my mom and

and dad. But like, I slept in a bed with my grandmother in China, like, in a one-bedroom apartment. They were my only friends. Like, I didn't want to go to America. I was like, forget America. Like, I want to stay here with Grammy, you know. Do you remember being scared? Yeah. That had to be tough. Like, I think the flight attendant literally had to, like, pry me off my grandmother to get on the plane. And that was also my first plane ride ever. And do you remember being on the plane? Like, you actually remember it? I remember because, she offered me Coca-Cola, which in China was like, on my birthday, I got a Coca-Cola.

And on the plane, she just kept giving it to me. And I, it was free. And I must have drank like 14 Coca-Cola's on that. She's like, welcome to America. Processed food and Coca-Cola. Yes, all the snacks in Coca-Cola. Like, I met my parents and I was like, I have to pee. So when you meet your parents, do you actually remember, like, being there, what it was like to come to there?

house. Do you remember that year of your life when you came from China? I do. I remember it. But to be honest, it was kind of terrible. Like, I didn't know who they were. I didn't know English. They put me in first grade. I knew no English. They were working because we were poor. I lived in a one-bedroom apartment. They had the bedroom. And I slept on a full-sized mattress on the floor. Like no bed frame. Like it was just a mattress that someone had like given to them. And that's how it was. And I went to school. And your only child? I was until I was 11. Okay. Yeah. So basically. So when you don't know English and you go to a school, it's terrible. Yeah, I don't think that I really wanted to have you on this podcast because the moment with your mom, like, it's like, that seems like really intense to go to a school and not know the

language. Yeah. And my mom and I, sadly, we never really got close. Like I want to be besties with my daughters. Like when they go to college, I want them to call me every day, tell me how class was, tell me about the boys that they're dating, like all that stuff. My mother and I, we barely know each other. Still to this day? It's so weird. Still to this day. And I love my mother. I would do anything for her, but I barely know her. Do you think it's the way that like our parents grew up, that that happens where you feel like you don't know them? Like, maybe she didn't know her mom. Yeah. I mean, it's like a cultural thing. Yeah. And we sure as hell don't talk about feelings.

Like all that stuff that happened on housewives. And when we had this dumpling party and my mom told me that she was proud of me and I sort of broke down and then she sort of broke down. People were like, wow, you're a really good actress. And I'm like, no, no, honey. Like that was real. They were like, certainly that was not the first time that your mother told you that she loved you and that she was proud of you.

And I'm like, I'm pretty sure it was. Or I wouldn't have cried like that. Yeah, I think it is a culture that we were talking before. like, you know, obviously I didn't immigrate here, but I'm now for the first time learning way more about my grandmother and her side of the family than I ever did when I was a child. And I'm 35 years old now. And I'm like, and I have to pry the information out of relatives and friends and elderly people that kind of knew. And it's like this whole, it's this whole weird expose where I got to like put all these pieces together to kind of like figure out who somebody really was. And I've known

in my whole life. Does that make sense? Yes. It's exactly like that. So I feel like, Just now, I'm starting to get to the point where I'm starting to get to know my own mother, and it's sort of through the lens of my children. Because I say this, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, but my mother is a much better grandmother to my daughters than she was a mother to me. Because when I was young, she wasn't around because she was working her ass off trying to make ends meet. We were trying to get groceries on the table. That's interesting that you say your mother is a better grandmother than she wasn't long. to me, but maybe that's sometimes I feel like how it's supposed to be if you don't have a good relationship with your parents. So you can sort of fall in love with your parents again,

seeing that side of them, if that makes sense. Yeah. Like when I see her interacting with my children, when she comes over and my children are so excited to see her and make signs for her, like, we love you, Grammy, all this stuff. Like it makes me understand and know her better. I'm going to let everyone in on a little secret that I have been doing with the skinny confidential team and it is called issue. If you have a business or a brand, you got to hear this. You're going to take it to the next level. Your online presence is going to be absolutely magical because issue is the all in one platform to create and distribute beautiful digital content. Through this, you can make super interactive flip books, you can make social media posts or you can use it for what we use it for. And that is GIFs.

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Story Worth. And I paid the money. And I asked my mother before I paid the whatever $99 if she would fill these out. And she said yes, she has never filled out a single question. For your birthday, can you ask her to fill it out? I will ask her again, but I feel like it's she, she, there's like some, like maybe she doesn't want to answer it. Maybe she doesn't want to answer it. Maybe she doesn't want to answer it. Yeah. Maybe there's things that she doesn't like what she wants to suppress. I think especially that because again,

common ground like immigrating here like that generation went through a lot of hard stuff. There's a lot of like hard life that they went through to get over here. Right? And so like maybe some of that is hard to go and, you know, recollect. Maybe. Maybe there's something that she just doesn't want to talk about. You all, it's almost like you have as you get older with your parents and I tried to do this with my parents is you have to come from a place of empathy.

Yeah. Or else you'll just go crazy. I know. You'll take it personally. Yeah. I mean, it sounds like clearly your parents' intention was to come here and try to build a better life for your family and for you. Yes, yes.

And don't get me wrong. Like what I say is like, I owe everything to my parents. Because if they had not had the fortitude to come to America when they actually didn't know the language either. And, you know, me dealing with racism, God, what were they dealing with in the 80s? You know, my dad was here on a student visa and washing dishes in the back of a Chinese restaurant for $2 an hour being paid under the table because you're not supposed to work on a student visa.

You know, like, what kind of racism did they deal with? Like, I want to learn from their experiences, but I think they don't want to talk about that. So maybe we shouldn't talk about it because maybe that'll bring up a lot of negative feelings for them. It's good, though. I think that this generation is talking about it. Right. Like, I think that that's going to be so helpful for the next generation to be able to just

normalize talking about things like this. Yeah. How did you experience racism when you were little? Oh my gosh. I started first grade, not knowing any English. We didn't live in the best neighborhood. So, you know, of course, kids would do the slanty eye thing and call me Chinkie Chong. And a kid was, I guess, like, dared by another kid to cut my hair because I always had like long black straight hair like silk. And so this guy came up to me at recess with a of scissors because his friend like dared him and just cut like cut a snip like just enough to where it looked crazy right I wore glasses because I was a huge dork one time they fell on the floor and instead of like picking them up giving them to me somebody actually just like stomped on them like on purpose kids are assholes this makes me emotional because having a daughter I feel I feel like too you have to teach your kids like as a parent yeah if anybody does that's my daughter I'm going to go to the house.

He's crying. I'm just going to go to the parents' house and beat up the dad. I know what? I know. You have a kid better. I'm going to actually say, you know, what's almost just as worse is, is someone doing that to your daughter? Is your daughter doing that to someone?

Yeah. That's almost worse. No, I think, like, yeah, if there's going to be some harsh parenting if any of our kids ever bully anybody. Yeah. I think times have changed. I hope that our children are not like that. But the sadder thing, honestly, is when I came home and told my parents, like, oh, the kids make

fun of me at recess, no one plays with me all that stuff. You know, if it was me, I'd be up in the principal's office, like having a talk with the superintendent. What my parents said to me is, they're just words, honey. People can't hurt you with, just ignore them. Focus on your studies. Like, make straight A's. That'll show them that you're not a loser.

Like, you know, they never really stood up for me or themselves. And at the time I didn't understand, but I think they were probably dealing with it too. They were probably scared and they were probably dealing with it and they probably didn't have the tools. Right. And now we speak up, you know, and we even speak up on behalf of others. But back then, we just kept our head down and tried not to make a fuss. I almost, I do agree with you that it is getting better in person, but it seems like with TikTok especially, it is so gnarly. Like TikTok, people will just say whatever, whatever they want. I mean, I can't even believe some of the things these kids say. I don't know if they're kids or adults.

I don't know, you know, with the age of the person leaving the comment, but I made a cute one that was like, ways to tell you're at an Asian house. And I was like, you have to take off your shoes at the door, you know, all this stuff. And then somebody was like, and they serve that, like, for dinner. Or, you know, like, that was the comment. And I was like, block, delete. You know, I actually now have hired. someone to be my blocker and deleter. So I don't even see a lot of those comments anymore.

That is so smart. So you have someone who goes in that you just don't even have to see the negative. Yes, ma'am. It's like get it out of my ether. I just, you know, I mean, is it unrealistic? Maybe. But it's also stuff that no one would actually say, I hope not to my face. So my assistant, part of her job that was listed in her job description, is to filter social media comments. So I don't get the troll hate. I don't blame you at all. The way I look at it is my social media is like a house. If you're going to come into my house and kick your fucking feet up on my white couch with dirt all over your boots, you're going to get kicked out.

Right. And the same with social media. I don't want your negative vibes in my community, in my space around my friends, around my family. Get the fuck out of here. Like, bye. Exactly. Yeah.

Our opinion on this is like, you know, people like live in a time where they think everybody's opinion is valid and valued, and I just don't agree with that. I think that some people's opinion should be completely discounted and completely unvalued, especially if their intention is in the wrong place. And you have all these people online trying to like tow the line to appease these people. I'm like, listen, if someone's a fucking asshole, they're an asshole, like get them out of your face. Yeah. Right. But there's, I grew up in a time when, unfortunately, there's bullies, but I also had the attitude, like, if there's a bully, like my dad taught me this from a young age. Maybe it's not kosher now,

but he's like, you walk up with that bully, you hit that guy right in the nose as hard as you can. And what it did when I was a kid is like, it maybe caused some other issues to other places. But as soon as that happened, all the other bullies kind of went away. They kind of stopped, right? And that doesn't happen anymore. It's like we let the bullies get away with things we would have never let them get away with in the past. Wow, these bullies are hiding behind a screen name from God knows where, sitting on their ass, eating cereal for lunch. You know, I'm like, show your face.

Show your name. Come say that shit to my face. And don't have live, laugh, love, dance in your fucking bio. Oh my gosh. Or a Bible verse. Those are the worst. Then they make the meanest comments. Michael got a great, great DM the other day.

I'm going to just lay it out there. Michael said, this DM said, show us your genitals. It's what the people want. Hey, oh, that one actually didn't. I actually was flattered by that. And then he went to the bio and it said like, It was a mother of two and the account was like all about her children. I'm like, listen, I don't know if these kids know what mommy's up to online.

Yeah. You're about to have another brother or sister? No, I'm just, that's what mommy's trolling after. You know what? I didn't take that as a troll. That's not bad. That's going to turn you on. But then again, I guess like if the roles are reversed, like if a guy's doing that,

that's to a woman, that's very aggressive. I've got a couple of in any penises. Oh, I get dick pics in my DMs, but now I don't see them anymore. But my assistant, she's like, I'm like, how many dick picks did we get this week? and she's like only four. Tell her to screenshot them and do a swipe right. Oh, we're going to out them soon.

We're just going to story them because I'm tired of people. We'll post it. Her parents are saying, so what did you do at work today, honey? He's like, well, I just got rid about four dickpicks. Her parents know.

The creative dick pick that I got was a guy was fucking a dildo. He had the dildo upright on the bathtub edge and he was fucking it with his asshole and masturbating at the same time. And I thought, you know what? Props to this creativity. This is like a Kanye West of like dick pics.

Thank you for that. If I had a dollar for every household object that someone has accidentally fallen on and come to the emergency room because it was stuck, you know, I wouldn't have to be working on this candle business so hard. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I was going to get to this part because I have some questions before this. But first I have to hear what are what are some things they fell on? Flashlight. Up their ass? Yes.

Always boys. Well, no, there was one girl. D-sized batteries, like the big ones. But they're short. I was like, what are you doing with that? Isn't that dangerous? Doesn't the water affect the battery? I have no clue.

Okay. A Barbie all the way like almost to her knees. So pretty far in. You know? Because he was like, I thought I was going to be able to pull it out. But then her arms got stuck. Like, do you know what I'm saying? Like, that's why babies come out head first.

It's like an arrow. Yeah. So we had to extract it from his anus. That's not a collector's item anymore. No, no. Gerbil? I've heard gerbil. No animals.

No snakes, no gerbils, no eels. I don't know how the... Eels? I don't know. I've heard... This is what I've heard straight from the source. My friend who does surgery told me that gerbils are super popular because when gerbils go up your ass, they seize. And the seas makes the vibration super strong.

And so they go up and down, up and down, almost like, you know, those toys that you wind up on the side. Yeah. And so the gerbil is like the most popular because the seizure is like a particular seizure. Oh my God. I'm calling Pito these people. Yeah. No, I've not taken any animals out of people, but lots of household objects that they inadvertently fell onto. Do you guys say like you didn't fall?

I don't say shit because I'm just an anesthesiologist. I'm just there to give a general anesthetic because they need to be fully paralyzed and relaxed so that the surgeon can retrieve the object. And then it has to be sent to pathology because the rule is that any thing that comes out of a human has to be sent to pathology. So one guy like cuss this out in the recovery room because apparently that dildo was kind of expensive and we wouldn't give it back to him. So I got cussed out in the recovery room.

I feel like he shouldn't use that dildo again if it got stuck up his ass because you don't want it to happen again. I don't know. People don't learn from their mistakes. Right. This would be the last of my concerns if I was in there for that circumstance. If I wouldn't be like, hold on, I need to get that back. I'd be like, I need to get out of here and never come back and move.

I'm moving out of the country after this. I know. You get a Barbie stuck up your ass. I'm going to send you to Tiffany. There's absolutely no way that's happening unless I'm under anesthesia. I mean, they always say that there was the girlfriend that put it up there. And I'm like, well, where is she now? How come she didn't come with you to the hospital?

That's a lie. That's a lie. That's a lie. You put it up there. I mean, you know, gerbil is better than a Barbie. Maybe not because it's life. How do we get here? Okay.

We've devolved. So you're growing up, how much pressure was put on you, and you kind of talked about this on the show, for getting good grades, becoming an anesthesiologist. Like, was that a precedent that you had to hit, or was there no pressure? Oh, it was all pressure. Like, my parents would literally get pissed off if I brought a 98 home. Like, that stereotype, like, came from my father. He'd be like, well, would you miss?

And then I would show him the test, you know, because they would mark it. I mean, you'd have a piece of paper. And then whatever that was, if it was subtraction, long division, whatever, you know, thing, he would then make me do like 10 pages of it. And he's like, well, next time you're not going to miss it because you're going to do 10 pages of it. So that next time that that kind of problem comes around, you'll know the correct answer. So I was punished with anything that I did wrong. I had to read extra books, write book reports.

They told me your English has to be perfect. like you cannot bring home anything less than a ever. So what would your parents do if you came home and you said, I want to be an actress? I have no idea because I would never do that. I never, I didn't try. It wasn't even in the cards for you to say anything like that. It was doctor or lawyer, pick one.

That's it. That's it. And I don't know because I didn't test to, I didn't try to, you know, I never brought home a bee. When you were little, did you ever think, of anything else you wanted to be? Or was it not even in your ether? It wasn't even in my ether. Like, it never even occurred to me. Do you know what I mean? It's like, that's all I knew. Like they, you know, it's like when you grow up in a cult. I mean, not that my parents are a cult,

but do you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't know any different. And then we would go to church and all the Chinese aunties would always praise my mom and dad and be like, oh, Tiffany's so smart and so obedient. Like, you know, and then I would just smile. And that was the only time I was ever really praised. And so then it became reinforcing. Like I'm obedient and smart. I'm obedient and smart. So then I would be obedient and smart because that's all I had. At what point, how old were you when you started to realize, wait, I can do other things? I can be multifaceted and wear pink and beautiful eyelashes and like, I mean, you're gorgeous. Like I can also tap into like my vanity side, but I also can be fun and have tequila and I also can be an anesthesiologist. Probably right around the time that I started filming for

housewives, 35 to be exact. I think in my early 30s, I'm not kidding, is when I kind of figured out, like, wait, I don't just have to be smart and obedient. I went to college early. I graduated from Cornell when I was 19 years old, went to medical school. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, whoa. Whoa. Stop. Like, I did all the things. I remember that from the show now that you just said that. Wait, first of all, how did you graduate early from high school? You just got straight A's and they were like, you should graduate early and go to Cornell? I had no friends. I read all the time.

I took advanced calculus as a freshman. And my high school was like, we don't have any more classes for you to go to college, bitch. Like, we don't. Are your parents proud at this point? My dad couldn't even be bothered to come to my Cornell graduation because he was like, it's just undergrad. I'll come to your medical school one. He didn't come to graduation Hold on

Where is Cornell In Ithaca, New York, upstate So when you're graduating early from high school He's in Dallas He's in Dallas Were you living at the school? Yeah And are you partying?

Are you just working on class? You were young then, huh? I was young. It was 19 when I graduated But, you know, I had a sorority sister And she sort of looked like me And so I, she pretended that she lost her ID and got a replacement and gave me her old one. So I had her address memorized her birthday.

She's an Aries. I'm a Leo. I was her. I embodied her. And I used her ID to get into clubs. Her name was Jessica. So that's my alter ego. When you're this smart, this young, I've actually wondered this before.

Is it natural? Is it practice? Is it a mixture? Is it execution? To be that smart to grow. graduate Cornell at 19. Like, what is the recipe? I think there's some innate ability mixed with, it's a little bit of nature, a lot of nurture,

and the fear of God that if you don't do this, you will be worthless. Because in many ways, that's what I was told. You're smart and obedient. You're smart and obedient. I was never told, you're kind. you have good ideas, you're creative, you're beautiful, nothing like that. And so it was my singular goal in life to make my parents believe that I was worth their hard work and sacrifice by coming to America to achieve and to, you know, check boxes

and to earn diplomas and bring home A's. Like that's all I knew. Looking back on this, do you think it's, so crazy that you graduated Cornell at 19, or is it not even phasio? No, it's so crazy because my stepdaughter, Nicole, is 18. We just had dinner last night. And I look at her, and I'm like, a year from now, she should be graduating college. Wait, no, that's not right. Like, there's no way. Like, who let me out of the house when I was 15? They just let me go live in the dorm. And when I was 15, I had a college boyfriend that I probably shouldn't have been having, but I lived in a dorm and I was

smart. You know, when you're smart, you also know how to get away with things, right? Like, dating this guy that I shouldn't have been dating when I was 15 because he was 18. Let me tell you about what I was doing at 19. When I was 19, I was flashing tits on the bar. I was fucking off. I was drinking. Like, I was out until 2 in the morning. What were you? I mean, I was not getting into me. I was studying. I was studying for midterms and exam. I think there is like a, I mean, that is such an intense experience, but I also think it's inspiring in a lot of ways because it's incredible what you're able to achieve at such a young age. And I think it proves the human potential, like what that kind of focus can do. Not saying that everybody

should do that, right? No, I don't recommend it at all. I don't think, I actually don't recommend it either. But it's really inspiring to hear that like with that type of focus, those kind of results can happen. I mean, that that's an extreme example. But you know, like we hear the other extremes all the time of people kind of fucking off, not doing anything, trying to find their path. And it's like, well, focus, sit down. I mean, you're on the one side. But the other side is like, people like, what do I do? I don't know if I can do it. And here, here's a 15 year old girl that goes to college and then graduates Cornell at 19. And now I want to look at a lot of people like, hey, what's your excuse? You're 35. Let's get to, let's get it together. Well, I was a robot. You know, I had no emotions.

I was like, I will go to school. I will make good grades. Like, I was a fucking robot, you know? And then I, so I graduated 19, went to medical school, graduated at the top of my class with an MD behind my name at the right baby, which is a really good anesthesia program, got married and had two kids by the time I was 30. And I was like, mom and dad, I have now completed the checklist that you gave for me. Now do you love me? Now am I worthy? And they're like, you're right. And then I had a midlife crisis. And I was like, I have done every single thing that anybody in this world has ever asked me to do.

I'm a good girl. Like, I help people. I save lives. I had two children at the same time, God damn it. And I'm like, what about me? And then Bravo knocked on the door. And I was like, you know what? I will embarrass myself on national TV.

Why the hell not? I will build my own candle business from scratch because I like candles. I will start my own wine company because guess what? I like drinking wine. And it was like that early 30s, like 30 to 35, where I was just like, F this, because I've done everything that's ever been expected of me. And I'm still not fulfilled. So now I'm just going to do me. You are Tony Robbins' prime example.

Have you heard of this? No. The art of achievement. No, the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment. Is that a book? No, it's his like whole. whole thing is like you, there's so many people that he talks to that are millionaires, billionaires, so fucking successful. High achievers. High achievers just like you that come to him,

like Steve Jobs style, not Steve Jobs, Steve Wynn, excuse me. Steve Wynn, come to him and say, I'm unhappy, why? And it's because exactly what you just said. They've done the checklist. They've achieved everything that there's possibly to achieve, but they don't feel fulfilled. Yep. And it's exactly what you're saying. That's like really, really crazy that you did the checklist. You did everything your parents wanted you to do and you still felt like there was like an empty void. Well, I think a lot of it is because people, because in a lot of ways you're fulfilling somebody else's checklist. Right. Right. It's not your checklist. It's not the thing that you would have actually wanted to do. But you're doing it for in this case, your parents or what you perceive to be is acceptance, all of these, what you perceive to be is gaining love of all of these things. Exactly. When you look back on your life because you were so young when you went to college, what were the sacrifices that you look back that you think you made? Oh my gosh. Well, I don't know if you call them sacrifices because I just wasn't allowed, but I never had a sleepover. I never got to go to other people's birthday parties because usually if you go to someone's birthday, you're supposed to bring a gift and we were so poor that we couldn't afford to bring a gift for the birthday person. So then I just wasn't allowed to go to the party, even though like we had no plans. I was incredibly lonely. I wish I had had a sibling. I mean, my brother was born when I was 11.

I left for college when I was 15 and he was four. So it's not like we kicked it together. I barely know my parents. I barely know my brother. Like, I don't, it's so weird to say these things out loud because I think these things, you know, but most of the time you don't talk about stuff like that, except with my therapist. I know, but it does, it does make you, in my opinion, one, a great housewife because there's so many, there's so many people that probably feel the same way and relate to. you on so many of these things. Is your brother feel like he has a checklist too, or did he go a different way?

I feel like you either go one way or the other with how you grew up. I tell him that his name is Josh. I'm like, Josh, we have different parents. And he's like, what's you talking about? We have the same mom and dad. And I was like, I know, stupid. Listen to me. Mom and dad, when they had you and you had your childhood, were not the mom and dad that I had

when I was a child. because by the time he was born, we had money. We lived in a house, like where you drive up and there's a house. There was no stairs in an apartment. I didn't have that until I was 10 years old. You know, that's why they had him because then they could like finally afford to have another baby, you know. So he had toys growing up.

I went to Goodwill and garage sales growing up. You know, like we had different. But I love him. He's my brother. He's a doctor because, you know, we. he was given the choice as well, doctor or lawyer. So now,

you know, everyone tells my parents like, oh my gosh, you guys have the best kids. He's a surgeon. I'm an anesthesiologist, you know, blah,

blah. My parents are very popular at Chinese church. When you're that age and you're maybe not getting, you know, the attention that a child typically gets, how are you seeking out comfort?

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You know, make it happen or don't, but like, you can't really count on other people. And maybe that's not so good because then, you know, I had a lot of walls. And when I did start making friends when I was older, I sort of would be like, oh, when's this person going to abandon me? When are they going to betray me? Like, you know, because I just always had like abandonment and trust issues. Michael and I are big readers too. And I would love to know any books that you could recommend to our audience. Like maybe like your top three, it could be something you're reading now, something you read when you were little.

maybe a book that changed your life, anything. Oh my gosh. I love, I have so many books. Grit by Angela Duckworth. She's a UPenn professor. Present Over Perfect by Shana Nyquist. She's amazing. I probably just said her name wrong.

Becoming Michelle Obama, these sorts of memoirs of people who are telling their story. I need to read that. Becoming. Yeah. Okay, I have a book for you. Oh, God. Good Morning Monster. Oh.

It's all about childhood trauma. Oh. And it's five cases of five. different childhood traumas. And it is so fucking good. And as you were talking and telling your story, these are like extreme traumas. But there are little parts of like what you're saying,

like being alone and what these kids did. Like one was locked in a basement. Like it's so good. Yeah. You'll like it. I just, but I don't want to come across as this like whiny. Like, oh, my parents abandoned me.

Like they made a huge leap of faith to come to America for the opportunity to give me. better life. Like, if they hadn't have done that, I'd probably be stuck in Beijing right now. I don't know what the hell I'd be doing. Or maybe I would have made it. Like, who knows, right? Because we don't have a control for this experiment where one of me went to China, I mean, stayed in China and one of me came to America or whatever, right? Like, we have no control for our own lives. And I just, I never want to come across as like ungrateful for my parents or that they caused me so much trauma. But at the same time, like, they caused me a lot of trauma. But I still love them so much. I don't

think you're coming off whining. No, you're not coming off whining at all. And, you know, I don't think this is a common experience, but I also, especially for many immigrants, don't think it's an uncommon experience, right? People that come from another country. And like, you know, their parents come with a perspective of a life that, like I was saying earlier, is much harder. And the opportunities are much more limited. And so they come here and they're like, they're pushing their children so hard. I don't think out of anything, you know, anything, probably out of anything but love, right? Like they want their children to have more opportunities a better life than they had, right? Of course. But it's just, the way they go about it is harsh to many Americans because people that are born here don't realize

how well they have it, right? Yeah. For sure. I think that, and I talk about this a lot, even with pregnancy, like you can simultaneously say it how it is, but also be grateful. So you can simultaneously be grateful for your childhood and grateful for your parents, but also still talk about what really happened and how it affected you. I think we're at this place now where you have to be like, everything has to be like one side or the other side. You can have two emotions at once. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Yeah, but it's mixed emotions, you know? Totally fine. Because I'm like, I'm so grateful. Like, they gave up so much for me. And then I'm like, but I resent them so much in some ways. Like, why couldn't they just be nice to me? Why couldn't they just throw me one? I love you when I was small.

I think that it probably has made you an incredible mother. I'm just going to guess. That's what we see from the show. Well, now I smother my children. I'm like, how are you? How was your day? How do you feel? Let's use our feeling words. Are we excited? Are we anxious? And they're like, mom. You know, like we swing the other way. They're pretty cute. And they look very, very smart. They seem very smart. They're a little too smart sometimes. Like, are they going to Cornell at 15? I will not allow. I want them to have a normal childhood. I also don't want them dating an 18 year old when they're 15. So I expect to keep them under my watchful eye locked down until they're really 18 and go off to college.

We get it. Michael gets it too. So what's the main reason or motivation to go on Housewives after all of this, knowing all of this about you, then you said, okay, I'm going to take a full left turn and I'm going to go on national TV on Bravo. I just thought I want to do something that no one expects of me because my whole life, I've done everything pretty, pretty perfect. And if I tell my friends that I'm going to join Housewives, they'll be like, what? You're joking. And I was like, I'm going to surprise everyone. I'm going to give everyone my middle finger. You know, and I, and also, I was flattered at being given the opportunity because when I was having Zoom interviews with the producers and stuff like that, honestly, I never in a million years thought that

they would pick me. I would have cast you right away. I never. I was like, and just so you guys know, I'm a full-time doctor and I intend to keep working during filming. So you're going to have to make accommodations around my working schedule. And they're like, okay, okay. And I was like, and just so you know, I'm not going to take off my clothes and do tequila

shots and like be drunk and stupid on TV. So, you know, and I was like, you know, during the interview. And I was like, they're not going to pick me. They're not going to pick me. So then whenever they picked me, it was like the popular boy in high school, like asking me out. And I was like, is this a joke? Like, okay, I'll go on a date with you, you know? And then when I told my friends, they were like, no way. You're not going to do that show. They're like, you don't even watch TV. Do you even know what that show's about? I was like, they follow you around. It's a reality TV show. How bad could me. Did they reach out to you? Yeah. They reached out to you. Yeah. I want to go back before we get into Housewives because I have 100 questions. And I wanted you to tell us the first time that you put someone to sleep.

Because your job is, it's a very interesting job. It's eerie. It's eerie. It's me out every time I have to go under anesthesia. It's kind of fun though to go under anesthesia. Let's be honest. Oh yeah. It's like a controlled high. Yeah. It's kind of under the medical supervision of a health. highly trained anesthesiologist. Yeah, Michael, it's kind of fun. Can I be honest? What I freak out about? I'm like, what are they doing to me when I'm out like that?

I don't want to know. I don't know whatever surgery you're supposed to be having. I know. They're like touching my ear or doing something weird. We're not touching your ear. I'm not, you know, giving you a facial or waxing your eyebrows. I had a 16 hour. I think I saw that sign filled back in the day, you know, and they're like out of

messing with you. Yeah. I had a 16 hour surgery for my jaw. No, it wasn't 16. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. No, no, it wasn't 16. You're under anesthesia too long.

It was a long surgery. It was like six hours almost. It was like, oh, I thought it was 16. No, tell me. You'll be able to know. Oh, you're going to take my thunder. I thought it was 16. I mean, you can.

We've done 16 hours. I think it was. I was there. I was in real time. He was waiting for you. So he knows exactly how long because he was in the waiting room. I would have to jet. Is she dead?

Is she going to wake up from no? It was a good run. I thought it was 16, but maybe it was nine. No, it was not. It wasn't nine either. Okay. It wasn't. nine, it was five and a half.

No, it wasn't five and a half. I promise you, it was five. What did they do to you for five and a half hours? They had to break my entire jaw and put it back together. Did you have a Lafort fracture? No, Macio, maxio. Maxil facial? Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Let's like, what, five hour surgery, five and a half? Wait, so, but here's like, not nine, not 16. When you put the person to sleep, like, if you put me to sleep for that surgery, do you leave the room? Are you done? No, you never leave. One time I had a diarrhea so bad and I had to call my friend and was like, girl you got to come to OR4 like right now I'm going to shit my man so I had bad sushi or something you

you cannot you cannot leave don't tell me don't tell me this story because I can't now I'm going I'm going to be thinking like I'm going to ask you know anytime I'm going I'm going to ask anesthesia laws you got to you got a you got a problem no we shit in between cases that's why I'm chronically dehydrated because I don't I swear like you cannot leave either you or if you're working with a resident or a nurse anesthetist somebody anesthesia wise is at the bedside at all times. This profession is so intriguing to me because it's the, like, I'm, I'm so scared of hospitals and needles and all this stuff.

So it's like, I'm like, almost want to like look at the car accident, if that makes sense? No, I, okay, so when I was filming my work, obviously did not let us film. But I'm like, why can't we do a medical show where we just film people going into anesthesia and surgery? I would love it. There's so many plastic surgery shows and they show the plastic surgery. I mean, it's pretty graphic.

You know, there's like a viewer advisory or whatever. But how come they never show people being put to sleep with anesthesia and we put the breathing tube in and we're doing extra IVs and I'm transfusing blood? How come that's not shown? Like, we've got no credit. Like, I want a medical show where like the anesthesiologist is shown too, not just the plastic surgeon. What was the first time that you put someone to sleep? And did you get a high off putting someone to sleep? Okay, so there was the first time that I did it as a resident, like under the supervision of my attending person.

And then there's the first time I did it by myself by myself where I'm like, oh shit. Like I'm now I'm the attending. You know, one day you graduate from residency and like all of a sudden you're, you know, magically smarter. You know what though? After hearing you talk and hearing your story, if anyone's putting me under it too. Thank you. Thank you. I hope you never need my services.

But if you do, I would love to help you. And I put someone to sleep. And this is the thing. It is not hard to put someone to sleep. Michael Jackson's doctor put him to sleep. He just didn't wake his ass up. The hard part is maintaining homeostasis and then waking you up after you've just had this six or nine hour surgery. And you're comfortable.

And we've just taken out a tumor out of your ovary or taken out your entire uterus or fixed your broken femur. And but you're in the recovery room and you feel okay. I mean, you're a little loopy, right? You're in a little bit of pain. But like, that's a cool fucking magic trick. I think. And you're what? You watch all of these surgeries, I assume, because you're there.

Yep. You've seen it all. I've seen it all. Nothing grosses you out. Oh my God. I love the gory or the better. If we were allowed to eat in the OR, I would just have a snack. Shut the fuck up.

No, you would not. I would. Blood, guts does not gross me out. I started crying the other day because I had to get my finger pricked. I would have rolled my eyes so hard if I was with you. I was crying because I had to get my finger. Like a prick of my finger. Oh my God.

I have Vasco. Vazovagel. Vazovagel. So you're like going to hit the floor. For you to say that you would eat in the surgery room, like I'm about to faint on camera. Like I've seen everything. I've seen shredded limbs like amputations where like it wasn't meant to be an amputation, but the car accident and the, you know, door like severed someone's leg and there's like little bits hanging.

I've seen people try to kill themselves, but they didn't kill themselves. And so they come in bleeding. I've seen shooting, stabbings. I saw a man impaled on a fence, like he fell off the roof, but then the fence was pointy, and he, like, impaled himself on like a flirt daily. I was like, oh, that's a pretty flirt. I like that. I might do that for my front yard. And my friend was like, bitch, pay attention.

I was like, oh, yeah. More units of blood. I've transused, like, 120 units of blood to one person before. What's the most common accident that we should all watch out for that's super random, that you see a lot, surprisingly? I mean, it's all car accidents. It's all car accidents. It's a lot of texting and driving. and drinking and driving, sadly.

Drinking and driving. Because anyone who comes in through the trauma bay gets a U-Tox. So we know your blood ethanol level, and we know if you've been smoking, snorting, you know, anything. Or if someone hits you and you're the victim of that. Like if you get hit and it's someone who has been drinking and driving or drinking and driving or doing drugs. Yeah.

With Uber though, it's not getting any better? How is it not getting better? I don't know, but I work at a trauma hospital. So, like, my view is, like, really skewed, right? Because, like, I just see trauma all day long. How do you detach from that when you go home? It's hard. You make TikToks and hang out with your kids and you have to sort of, like, leave it at the door.

Like, when I take off my scrubs, I have to tell myself, like, self, you know, don't worry. Like, and then sometimes I check on my patients from surgery from two days ago because I'm, like, did that lady make it or not? Like, I'm just curious because I took care of her for six hours after her car accident. So two days later, I want to see if she's, you know, okay or not. And sometimes they're not okay. Do you ever get attached to the patient? No, because I don't know them personally. Like I don't talk to them. I don't know. I mean, sometimes because I have domestic violence victims and I know their backstories and stuff like that or cancer patients and I, you know, met their families and gave them hugs and stuff. But I try, I chose anesthesia specifically because I'm bad with feelings. I was going to ask you why you chose like a, like, a, with everything you learned, like why that was the... Yeah, because I wanted so bad to be a dermatologist because I love skincare. I could talk skincare like all day long.

But I just, when I did my dermatology rotation and you're in clinic and you biopsy moles and you're prescribing acutane to pimply teenagers and I was just like, this is so boring. And then I did anesthesia and they brought in like a gunshot wound and I was like, yeah, let's transfuse blood. Let's give pressers. Like, let's put in a central line.

And I was like, oh, this is it. It's like when you meet the love of your life and you're like, this is the person I'm going to marry. When I did my anesthesia rotation, I was like, this is the medical specialty I'm going to marry. Like, I just loved it. When the person is in surgery and you've, okay, so say you've distributed the anesthesia, the person's in surgery, do you get to sit back and relax?

Or are you watching the monitors like a psycho? Or are you, like, involved in the surgery? Like, what are you doing? I'm not involved in the surgery at all, like not scrubbed in. So there's like a shield sort of at the patient's neck. We call that the blood brain barrier. And I watch the surgery sometimes if it's interesting. Sometimes it's not.

I watch the monitor like a hawk. And the longer you do it, like before, I used to watch the monitor. Like every three minutes the blood pressure cycles and I would just stare at it and like freak out. But now that I've been doing anesthesia for like 14 years, like I can like sort of watch the monitor with one eye and like talk about my weekend plans with the surgeon with my other eye, you know. And there's a medical student usually that's with me. And so I'm like teaching them stuff. And I'll open up. We have a Pixis machine, which is like a little robot-looking thing that has like a hundred drugs in it.

So I'll open a drawer and start pimping the medical student. When we ask medical students questions, we call it pimping. Not like, you know, has nothing to do with sex. So I'll open up a drawer of the Pixis and be like, what's this drug? What are the indications for its use? Tell me it's pharmacokinetics. What are its adverse effects? So I'll start asking, you know, because during surgery, sometimes in the middle

a long surgery as the surgeons are working, we're on a little bit of autopilot. I'm not going to lie to you. You know, I mean, but then sometimes we hit some turbulence and that's why I'm there. I always say, like, I'm there for when the times are tough, not when we're on autopilot and everyone's kicking in. There's music going on and we're just, you know, working along. So I almost feel like your childhood of how you had to detach and just focus on your studies has made you an incredible anesthesiologist. Yeah. Because you're able to detach when you go home from it. Yes.

And also it's like you're in charge. And I'm super OCD. Like I like my things the way I like them. I like my drugs labeled and lined up exactly how I like them. And I set up my case the same every single day. Like I could you could blindfold me and I could like reach for drugs because I know exactly where I put them. What makes a really good doctor medical student anesthesiologist? Like when you spot someone, you're like, that's going to be a damn good doctor.

Conscientiousness. What do you mean? Like reading the room, like being able to have good judgment. It's like I can't describe it, but when I see it, like I know it. Because there are some medical students and I'm like, please don't go into anesthesia. Like you'd make a great internist. Please stay in clinic. And I don't mean that in like a derogatory way.

But anesthesia, you have to think quickly on your feet. You basically have to like treat and diagnose a problem simultaneously. Like if you're one of those people that needs to sit down like, marinate over something, like, that's not good for anesthesia. So, like, you're decisive. Yes, but, like, correctly decisive, not wrongly decisive. Yeah, you don't know you just want to be decisive. What is something that would surprise us about anesthesiology and being put under?

Like, is there anything that, like, you think that the consumer, the customer doesn't know? Do I want to know? I don't know if I want to know. Anesthesia is so safe now because of the monitoring technology. and drugs that we have, that you are more likely to die in a car accident on a freeway than you are under general anesthesia. That's good.

That makes you feel better. And when did this technology kick in? Like, it's been, yeah, this is not like yesterday. It's like 10 years. Yeah.

10, 20 years. Yeah. I notice after I get anesthesia. Anesthesia. I can get depressed. And I, this is my theory.

This is the lower never, it's theory. It's going to be based on no medical reasoning. I think that it constipates you. And so all the toxins from it get stuck inside of you and you don't have them exit your body. So I think, and this is Dr. Lauren, that you should have like a stool softener afterwards to make sure that you have the anesthesia exit your body. You are actually not wrong, Dr. Lauren. But I will clarify for your listeners.

because generally when you go under general anesthesia, which means you're completely asleep, that's like the most common type. We give you opioids, which are pain medications, the most common of which is fentanyl, which is now known because people like do it in the streets for fun. Not good.

Don't do that kids. When you take any kind of opioids such as fentanyl, that constipates you. You have opioid receptors in your bowel. So anytime you have general anesthesia, which contain opioids, the bowels are going to be a little slow. You're going to be a little bit backed up.

So you should take a story. tool softener and you should drink extra water. You can never go wrong drinking extra water. Basically, I've decided that the answer to every problem in life is to drink more water. Except when you're pregnant. Maybe I have a magnesium something like. Yeah, magnesium. Yeah, magnesium.

That does work. Yeah. Of course. Oh, that does work. Well, the three and eight will not do it. But if you have glycinate, yeah. Thank you, Dr. Michael. So you are actually onto something.

I think every doctor should prescribe a stool softener. Yes. Is that weird? I really do. No. When you have anesthesia, you have anesthesia. You should take a stool softener. Yeah, that's my public service.

And probably if you had any kind of abdominal, whatever, the last thing you want to be doing is straining on the toilet after you just had any sort of like C-section, hysterectomy, you know, girl surgery or abdominal surgery because you don't want to be straining on your sutures. See? Dr. Lauren, I give you, I hereby declare you an honorary MD. Thank you. Wow.

Thank you. You know what you said. You know what you said on the show that really stuck with me? me, you said that you, when you come home from your work, you go into a different house, like a guest house, and you shower and take all your clothes off and take your shoes off before you even enter your house. If Michael wears shoes into a doctor's appointment with me, I will not, like, he is not allowed to even touch a toe. What's the reasoning? Because I think that there's a lot of germs at hospitals and doctors offices that I don't want in my house.

else. Is it true that you like strip your clothes, like everything gets like... But is that that's the reason you do it? Or you just... Well, it was a COVID thing. It started when COVID happened. And so I, every morning at 6 o'clock in the morning, and the shower is attached to my garage. So we have a 5 car garage and then an

extra garage that was supposed to be the 6th garage that we turned into a shower so that when we have play dates with my kids in the summer and they have swimming parties, the little wet feet stay out. stay outside. Yeah, that's a great idea. Take notes, Michael. It's a whole bathroom. I don't need your wet toenails. Yeah, I was like, we don't need a sixth garage. Just make it into a bathroom shower. So I would do decontamination shower, which was, one, to

wash any COVID particles that may have come home with me. But also, too, it was kind of like this mental, like washing away the day. Like, it was a bad day. We lost a patient or a patient had a mask and we opened them up and do the biopsy. And then we get what's called a frozen section in the middle of surgery, and it comes back from pathology in like 30, 45 minutes, and it's cancer. So we close. Like, it's done. So we're not doing the surgery because it's, it's everywhere.

So we close. You can't spread it. Right. So then, you know, I had a bad day. So the decontamination shower is both for physical and mental reasons. So I can like take off my clothes, take off my day, wash it away, and then put on fresh clothes and come inside and hug on my kids and things like that. But we always take off our shoes.

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And this is my pet peeve and I'm putting it up and I hope we can pull this clip to put on my Instagram story. I don't like shoes in my house. Everyone knows that. When you're going to take your shoes off, though, what is with the people that step in my house to take their shoes off to leave their shoes in my house? Can we just take the shoes off before we enter the house? No, Lord, you got to get like a bench or something.

I have a bench. I have a bench. Outside? Yes, I have a bench. It's a little bit of a chair situation. I think in the foyer area, that can be the shoe removal area. I don't love the foyer area. Can't we just take them off outside?

No, I don't think that's polite. And it's hot outside. And there's like, you know what? Lauren, that's not culture. I don't have a foyer. No, that's not a foyer. Yeah, you got a little foyer. Can I get a, I do not have a foyer.

It's an entry. I would love a foyer and a decanamination show. You can't make people... So you think it's okay for them to step in the house and take the shoes off? That's my preferred method. To come inside, welcome, and then please take off your shoes. I thought you were going to agree with you. Like inside the air conditioning, though. Because sometimes you have boots and there's laces and it's all that stuff.

And it's like kind of like, I feel like it's like almost a little rude to be like, oh, you can't even come inside until you don't have your... So it's like, oh, hi, welcome. How are you? Please take your shoes off. What about a booty? Okay. So you can take your, there's three choices.

Okay. You can take off your shoes and you can keep your socks or bare feet, whatever. If you got some stanky-ass feet, because you know who you are, stanky-ass feet people, there is a booty that you can, it's like a shoe cover, disposable that you can wear. Or I have this machine where you step on it and it's like a saran wrap. I got that. Ours doesn't work. Mine must be shitty.

You must have got the bootleg version. Yeah, I think I got the bootleg version. But the saran wrap thing doesn't work if you're in stilettos. because it kind of like punctures through the saran wrap. Okay, I think I got the, I think I got the bad one. Wait, so do you have like a little basket of shoe covers? Yes, and it's cute. I made it cute.

Okay. And next to it is a cute trash can so that on their way out, when they're putting their shoes back on, where there's a bench. Okay, so you need a foyer. Okay. You need a foyer. You need a cute basket that's labeled shoe covers. We need a check top on this. You need a trash can next to it so that they can dispose of them on their way out.

you need the saran wrap thing where they can step on it and like saran wrap just the bottom of their feet. It sounds like your anesthesiologist kit. I'm going to get my arms around this and transition to the next subject. No, I just have one more thing to say.

No, but it's over. No, I have to call you out. The worst, though, is when he tiptoes across the floor with his tennis shoes on and says, I have to run across real quick. Well, I'm not playing like hot lava, you know?

No, he's playing hot lava. He tries to run across real quick because he has to grab something. No, I had on cute boots that took like five minutes to put on and then realized I forgot something so I just did it on all fours. I was like crawling on the floor to go get

and I made a TikTok of it. I was like when you have your shoes on but you forgot your lipstick. You got two options in this scenario. You got to crawl. You got two options. Option one, I got to run across in the shoes once in a while.

Option two, we're signing the divorce people will be moving on. You got to crawl. I'm not crawling. I'm not crawling. I will move on from the subject after I say this. When you go outside, you are stepping on fecal matter.

I'm not stepping in fecal matter. Piss. It's piss. In the hospitals, who knows what you're stepping on blood. It's like C. You're stepping on Barbie's hair that's come out of Mr.

Jones's asshole. No, you and I are walking in a different place. I'm not running into a fecal matter. If you're in L.A., you're stepping on heroin needle syringe. If you're on New York in the subway, forget it.

I don't live in New York or L.A. I live in beautiful Texas, where the land is. I could almost deal with that on the ground in my house. but here's the thing. My daughter sits on the floor. Oh, my kids eat off the floor.

Yeah. It's like the dog, our dog is a chihuahua. It's this close to the floor. It's gross. Like, can we just make it? If you don't move on from this subject. All right. All right.

Okay. Housewives. Housewives. Okay. So you get on housewives. Yes. What's your immediate reaction to all the women right away? Like, did you like someone more?

Did you like someone less? Was it good energy? I thought that this was going to be the sleepover that I never had. You know? You thought wrong. You should have called me. I would have told you.

I have some strategies. I had no strategy. My strategy was to be myself and try to have a good time. I mean, it worked. Some people were more welcoming than others. What hurt is that the way they film it is like you do something. You're at a party. People are nice.

People are not nice. Whatever. And then you watch that three months later. So then you watch that after someone was just nice, nice to you, they went to a table over here and talk shit about you. And you're watching that three months later. And you're like, damn,

I didn't know she said that. You know what I mean? Like, that's not normal. We don't have that normal human experience to, like, zoom out and see the way someone, right?

Like, it was so weird. And they may not even know that moment's captured and then they have to answer for it. Oh, they know it's captured. We're a miced and there's a cameraman in my face. Like,

you know it's being captured. Anyone that was like, I forgot. I was being filmed. Really, bitch. There's seven cameras here. Are they welcoming?

or is it like Braddy's sorority? Bradi sorority. So it's like kind of like hard to become integrated into the culture. Is that every franchise? I have no idea. She's only, she's only done Dallas. How would she know?

I felt like I was being like hazed a little, like a pledge. You know, like having to prove that I really wanted to join the sorority. You know what though? The audience is so savvy of that show. They are. And they know. They do. They will call it out what has they see it.

That's the thing that I think a lot of these housewives forget is that the, the audience is way smarter than you think. Yeah. And they're sussing and being like, why are these girls being so bitchy to the newcomer? So I feel like the audience knows that. The audience is very savvy. What was a moment in time where you were like, I wish I didn't do this show? Because I feel like you had ups and downs.

It wasn't until like at least halfway through the season, probably two thirds of the way through the season that I actually let loose and like enjoyed myself. My first cast trip was incidentally to Austin. We drove an RV. It was just terrible. Like Dandra and Carrie were screaming at each other, like, at the dinner table. And I just did not know that, like, two people could cuss each other out and scream over a dinner table, like that severely. You know, I was, like, shocked.

I just hit a breaking point. And you have to remember, while we were filming was in the middle of the pandemic. And I was working full time, not missing a single day of work. So I was pulling about 40 to 50 hours at the hospital and filming. And you're seeing real life crisis in the hospital. I was intubating COVID positive patients who were in respiratory distress. And that's why I was being called to intubate them. So, like, I definitely had COVID particles in my face.

You know what I mean? And then I'm filming. And then they're like, oh, and then this Friday to Sunday, you're going to go to Austin. And I was like, but I want to spend time with my family. I've barely seen my kids this week. Like, I literally have barely seen my kids this week. Like, I don't remember the last day night I've had with my husband. like it's not good.

And they're like, nope, you're going to Austin this weekend. And I just, it just, and then the women were mean to me. And I just like, you could just see it. Like, I just had it. And in that moment that we like, oh, well, we're supposed to jump in the leg as a, you know, thing. I was like, I'm done. I'm out of here. They tried to throw you in the pool.

There was something with the pool. What was the pool? Carrie pushed me into a swimming pool with all my clothes on, like on episode two or something. That's dangerous. I can't swim. That's what it was. You can't swim and she pushed you in the pool. I mean, I wasn't going to.

die. I could stand in the pool. So I'm not going to be like dramatic and say that she tried to kill me because I could stand up in the pool. But she knew that I couldn't swim. And her and Cameron had like, you know, devised this funny thing to push Tiffany into the pool with all my clothes on. And it was a new dress. And it was expensive. Yeah. Your hair is like beautifully curled. Like you don't push someone in the pool that looks like that. It was a mean girl thing. You just don't do that. And then the chicken foot episode, which I feel like you have to talk about because that became a whole thing the whole season. And Michael, I don't know if you saw this. No, I know about it. Okay. If I had known that something that I eat for brunch, like on a normal basis with my children, would become like this thing, you know, like it was chicken feet gate. I would not have brought them to dim sum. I wish you brought me chicken foot. I would love to try that.

I'm going to take you. We might have tried it in Beijing, but I would have loved to have tried it. It actually looks really good. It's full of collagen and it's like sweet. It's like barbecue. It tastes like barbecue. It's really good for your skin, too. Yeah, it's collagen.

It's full of collagen. Okay, so there was like a judgmental undertone over a chicken foot. So, of course, the producers. Again, kind of an uncultured moment as an American, right, showing like, hey, you know, a very worldly person, don't really understand cuisines. And in their defense, like, they wanted to make it a moment. They were like, make her eat a chicken foot. Make her eat a chicken foot. You know, and I'm like, she doesn't want to eat a chicken foot.

They're like, but make her, it'll be funny. You know, we are trying to film a TV show, right? Okay. So I'm kind of being very pushy with my chicken foot, you know, offerings. and, you know, she's being a little dramatic with her refusal of the chicken foot, you know, ends up putting it on the floor. And then all was fine, actually. That, to me, was the end of chicken feet. But he didn't care if she didn't eat it.

I didn't give a shit if she ate a chicken foot or not. And that was it. I thought it was done. Okay. But then when the show airs three months later, she posts a picture on social media that says, chicken feet, no thanks. I'd rather eat dog treats. And I was like, okay, now that's offensive. So I actually didn't care about the chicken feet thing that happened on the show.

What pissed me off was when she insinuated that she'd rather eat dog food. I mean, she said she'd rather eat dog food, promoting her dog food line, of course, her own one that she owns over like my brunch that I have on my table regularly on weekends. And so I texted her. And I was like, I just saw your Instagram. I think that's really rude. would you please take that down? And she was like, no. She like doubled down. You know how sometimes like you mess up and you're like, oh my God, I didn't know that people would take it like that. Like, you're right. Thank you for bringing that to my attention or something like that.

But she doubled down. And then that's when it got ugly. So then we just started volleying Twitter insults at each other, left and right. And what was the audience saying? Like, were they defending you? Yes. They're like there are politer ways to refuse the food. I thought you were the queen self-proclaimed queen of etiquette. Do you put food on the table of a restaurant? Do you think that's proper etiquette? And then some people didn't get it because some people were like, I don't like chicken feet either.

Does that make me a racist? And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Like actually, honey, like this isn't even about chicken feet anymore. You were upset that they insulted the cuisine, right? Is that or the culture? Yes. That she. It's like, oh, this is gross.

why would a certain group of people do this? Right. It's almost like there was a judgmental, like, dirty undertone. Yes. That's what I got from it. It was like, which, by the way, if you had chicken feet here, I'm eating them right now. I want some collagen for the baby. Yeah.

And I actually don't care at all about the chicken feet. It's just that she, like, manipulated the situation into being that I was offending my own culture. and then I made a TikTok about my mom throwing a shoe at me. And then she was like, I don't understand how stereotyping isn't racism. And I was like, well, first of all, it was a TikTok that was meant to be funny about an experience that I actually had as a child. Like, my mother would throw shoes at me and my best friend's Mexican. And she was like, hell yeah, girl, Le Chonkla. Like, everybody knows that.

And, you know, she was like, I think that you're racist. And then so this is all bad. But wait, it gets worse. because her husband and his brother chime in on Twitter and call me a racist and then tag my employer. Because their daddy donates millions of dollars to my employer. And there's a chair named after their daddy because that's how donating money to hospitals works. That's how, you know, wings of hospitals get named and chairmanships get named after people is because you don't. donate money. So they basically tried to get me fired from my job, is what I'm trying to tell you.

And then I had to happen with that really quick. Well, we had to get some legal assistance involved. And then that's all I can say. Like, that's up until the part that I can say is that then I had to get my lawyers involved. So you're filming this show. I never understand why the husband's getting involved. This was going down. I'd be like, I'm out. Let's give another tip. Take your shoes off in the foyer. Okay. Also, if you're a husband on housewives. Yeah. Don't get involved. I don't think that like if Lauren came to me and she was in a fight on one of these shows with another housewife and she came to me. It was mad that I didn't defend her.

I'd look at it. I'd be like, what do you fucking nuts? You see what happens to these guys? You know who does a good job? Maricio. Yes. Maricio does a good job. Your husband did a good job too.

Because it's not the house husband. It's not your fight to fight. It's a little women's silly battle. Yeah. Makes them look kind of bitchy. And don't tag my employer. Like what the hell, dude? I actually have a whole ass career that I've worked my entire life for.

And this is a silly little women spat over chicken feet. Like we could have resolved it. Like, you, sir, sit down. At this point, had you guys filmed the reunion yet? Because I know there was drama on the reunion. Oh, my God. I don't, the timeline. This came out right after the reunion, right after the reunion.

So at what point do you know the show is canceled? I shot test scenes with people that I recommended. Because, okay, when all this happened, I was like, F Bravo, F the show. Like, screw you guys, I'm over. I changed my buy-on. Instagram, it caused this whole chain of phone calls. I was like, oh, damn, I didn't know I wasn't supposed to do that. We shot test scenes for a potential season six with friends, my actual real friends that I introduced. But the ratings were really low. COVID started rising again after

it had sort of deforevest over the summer. They called me one day and they were like, we're just going to put it on a hiatus because we don't know if it's safe to film. The ratings were super low last season. New York isn't even having a reunion because something happened with them. I don't know. Like, it was just not good. And I was like, cool. Thanks. Like, I was so relieved because I was sort of in the mindset that if they would cast my actual friends because I introduced them to two friends of mine and DeAndre introduced them to one friend of hers, that it would actually be the sleepover I never had. Like, we could actually have fun. I wanted to do over basically because I'd such a terrible time with this cast. And it wasn't because I was working as a doctor and filming

took a lot of time and I didn't get to see my kids and husband as much. It wasn't even that. It was that I felt like I joined the wrong cast. Like that if the people had been different, we would have had a good time. As an avid professional housewife watcher, I would agree with you. I told you that off air that I think maybe the cast wasn't a fit. Not that it's not a great cast. I think there's some great people on the cast. I just think, Like I think if you had joined Beverly Hills or New York, I could see you in doing New York because you said you're from, you lived in New York. Yeah. Like I feel like there would have been more synergy.

But what I will say is you were only on one season, but you made a huge impact. And sometimes people like there's people that there that have been on New York for one season and I don't even remember their name. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like you did make an impact and the audience really did love you. Now we're going to hear from those people. Great. No.

No. No, I mean, look, I have haters, too. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I don't have haters. Like, for anyone to go on TV and think that 100% of people who watch them are going to love them would be narcissism. By the way, that's life too. Not everyone's going to like you. Right. And I, everyone loves Michael, though.

Like, how could you not love this guy? Of course. And honestly, I'm okay with everything that happened. People who don't like me think that I'm too uppity. I got in trouble for talking about my nine toilets. I'm too stuck up. How many times is she going to mention she's a doctor? You know, I hate her voice.

Why does she talk like that? Like, I don't know. I don't know. This is what my parents told me that good English sounded like. I must have been trying to like imitate, you know, perfect American English. And I decided that it was this valley girl voice. I don't know. I love the voice.

By the way, can we stop insulting people for their voice too? It's the voice. I know. I know. A little close to home there. Well, yeah, people insult me for my voice too. Me too. This is my voice.

Don't listen. I know. Turn it off. I'm like, do you not like my nose too? You don't like my voice? You don't like my nose. Am I gaining too much weight? Let's be constructive with our criticism.

If it's something that maybe I say like too much. Right. Okay. Yeah. I could like adjust that. Right. Like like. Yeah.

But the way I speak. Like, what do you want me to do you want me to do? I know. Do you want me to? I know. I have a nasally. I've been told they're like, are you from the valley? Because you sure sound like it.

It's like insulting a guy for their penis size. They can't do anything about it. I think that does happen though. Yeah, but it is what it is. I don't insult anyone for their penis size. But also, strangers are insulting me for my voice. But like a stranger can't insult you for your penis size because they haven't seen it. Right.

Maybe you guys should just show your penises because we have to show our voice. I mean, what's her mom of so-and-so and so-and-so wants him to show his genitals? Show your genitals right now. Hashtag show your genitals. I think that this is a sexual assault. Do you feel safe right now, Michael? Lauren's making me feel very unsafe. Wink twice if you feel unsafe.

My eyes are, I'm blinking a lot right now. He's seizing right now, you guys. No one cares what his emotions are. Moving right along. Next topic, please. Tell us something really that would surprise us about housewives that's juicy. Like something that we don't know. Like maybe like they film for 16 hours and they only take an hour.

They don't pay for shit. they don't pay for any of your outfits, any of your glam. Only when you're doing those confessionals, like in the chair, they pay for the hair and makeup for when you're doing that. But the parties that you throw, the cute outfits that you have to wear, I mean, you don't have to, but I mean, you're going to go on Bravo, like wearing some basic, no, you're not. Makeup hair, because they say that's your choice to wear a cute outfit and to have your hair

and makeup done. So they don't pay for any of that. And I lost money, my first season of housewives because of the outfits, the hair and makeup, and the lawyer that I had to hire. But you gained money. Look at this transition. You gained money because of your candle company and your wine company, which you need to tell us about. Yes. I am a real big fan of your candles.

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Guys, check it out. Again, use code Skinny at checkout for 20% off your first purchase. Enjoy. What are the candles, like what is each one? Because there's four, right? There are 20. Wow. I bought Overachiever. I should have known. Sorry. Excuse me. Hold on the overachiever. There are 20, but I brought you the four that I thought you would enjoy most because oxytocin, because one, you're pregnant and two, that I know that you're very sex positive. And we all know that oxytocin is the hormone that's released when you have an orgasm, which, you know, everyone should be having, hopefully on a regular basis. So I wanted to give you that one. The other one is on Dancetron, which when I was pregnant, I took all the time because it's for morning sickness. It's Zopran.

On Dantrain, it's Zofran. And then I brought you rosé champagne because right now you can't drink, but I thought at least you could smell a rose champagne candle. And then the last one is botulinum, which is Botox. Perfect. Because who doesn't have a little Botox in their face? And who doesn't miss a little Botox in their face? You can't get it when you're pregnant. You can't do anything when you're pregnant.

pregnant. I know. I'm not saying this, but you can get Botox when you're pregnant, but I'm not saying that. She didn't say that. I didn't say that. And I might have had a little bit of wine last night. I didn't say that either. I okayed it with my doctor. Yeah. So, okay, your wine, tell us about your wine and I want to do a giveaway with your candles if that's okay. Yes. So the wine is called Three Moons Wine and actually we created it in 2009 because my husband and I would take trips to Napa all the time because we were long distance. He lived in Dallas. I was doing anesthesia residency in San Francisco. And so he would come visit like every other weekend or something and we just take like a little weekend trip to Napa. That's where he proposed to me.

And I know. It's like our little love spot. And so we ended up making friends with a winemaker who had excess juice off of his vineyard. So we made our own private label wine, but we don't own like an actual vineyard. We don't have a tasting room, anything like that. And it's small production. So we've been doing it for over 10 years. You have the most beautiful wine room in your house, though. She's like, you know the wine room that's at Rancho Valencia? If you haven't been there in San Diego, it reminds me of your wine room. Okay.

You know what I'm talking about, right? I'll have to go up and check it out. I'll be up there next weekend. It's, um, it's, we have 2,000 bottles of wine in an underground cellar that's temperature and humidity controlled. It also almost looks like the earth on the show at least. Like the earth made this room. It's really cool.

Because we dug into the earth. earth because it's the basement. And so we thought instead of hiding the fact that we're underground right now, let's showcase it. So we put glass and like uplighting to see the earth that like in. So it feels like you're in a cave. So we call it the wine cave. Make a confession. This is my second manipulation of the podcast.

The first one was the shoe covers. If you go back into shoes, I know this is the second one because I want in my next house a wine cellar with the uplit lighting with the clear with the earth made it situation. Just so you know. board for that. Okay. Okay. Oh, good. Yeah, that's easy. That's not even if you had to, easy, give. If you had to leave our audience with a pick of what wine they should drink and what candle they should drink, if they could pick one of each, what would you do? You're going to drink a candle you would light and which wine you would drink. Oh my gosh.

My favorite actually right now is the oxytocin because it's lighty pear and I think that's like a good spring scent. In the fall, I like more like cinnamon, clove, earthy kind of sense. So I switch my sense by season or by my mood. There's one candle that I like to light that like when my husband sees that one lit is like he knows his own. I don't even have to tell him anymore. Is it a BJ candle? It's called Heliparadol. It's the H candle.

We've nicknamed it sexy time candle. Because if that one's lit, like it's about to go down. That one's lit. I should have brought you that one. She went out into her outdoor shower. She's showered off. She has her fucking shoe covers on. She's ready.

Yeah, yeah. And what about the wine? And the wine? Right now I'm loving. the Sauvignon Blanc because it's hot outside and that wine I keep in the fridge like cold, cold, cold and then not to be unclassy or anything, but I pour it in my Yeti tumbler so it stays cold. Love it. Because I don't like it when it's in a regular glass and then like 20 minutes later, it's room temperature. That's Texas classy. I like that. I like the Yeti in the one.

I gave you an ice roller that you need to ice roll your face while you have your candle lit drinking your cold yeti's sobion. I'm going to make a TikTok about living my best life while having a candle lit, rolling my face and drinking. Perfect. Multitasking at its finest. Where can everyone find you? Pimp yourself out. Tell us where to get your candles,

your wine, follow you. You have an incredible TikTok. I am on TikTok and Instagram and Twitter, although not much, at Tiffany Moon MD, the same name across all the platforms. And my candles are on my website, Tiffanymoonmd.com.

And we give a portion of proceeds away to the largest provider of domestic violence services in Texas, which I'm really proud of. And the candles all have taglines. They all have indications for use. Like if anyone has ever told you that you have a resting bitch face. Yeah, they're fun. It was a passion project. I never really thought that it would become a business. And I'm so, so just grateful that my friends and followers have embraced my candle business and get the humor that comes through. They get that I poured premium ingress.

into these candles and that, you know, they're triple-scented essential oils, no paraffin wax. Like, these are some bougie candles is what I'm trying to say. Because people are like, oh my God, $45 for a candle. And I'm like, well, it was a lot to make. Like, just the glass alone is $2. She does it right. And she does it well. Burning the whole show.

And also, yeah, it's a 60-hour burn time. I will say, too, I really sensitive to candles that have a bunch of, like, chemicals in them. And this has been burning for the last hour and a half. And it's like, especially being pregnant. Yes. Like, it's like everything smells. These smells so good. Yes.

I have to tell you because the thing that people don't do is that right before you burn a candle, you're supposed to trim the wick so that it's one fourth of an inch. The overachiever. She has a fucking wick trimmer. We like long dicks, not long wicks. Yes. We like long dicks, not long wicks. Don't, don't get my mother's going to kill me.

Go trademark that. Oh, no. hashtag. So yeah, every time before you light your candle, make sure that the wick is nice and short, because that gives you a nice even burn. I will always make sure that my wick is short, not my dick. Tiffany, thank you so much for coming on. You're so inspiring.

You guys, can we do a giveaway for the exact ones you gifted me? Yes. Okay, let's do a giveaway. She gave me the top four candles. She thought I would love. All you have to do is follow your candle company. Tell us at aromesthesia, A-R-O-M-A-S-T-E-S-E-S-I-A. It's half-Romatherapy and half anesthesia.

Aromesthesia, it's such a cute name. And tell us your favorite part of this episode with Tiffany on my latest Instagram at Lauren Bostic. You can come back on. I'm also just going to put it out there that Tiffany Moon needs to be back on our screens. And you're not saying it, I am. I think it's going to happen. There are some discussions being had.

I love when a housewife says that. There's discussions. That means there's some serious discussions that we're going to get some juice with Bravo. It's not going to be on Bravo. Oh, okay. Shots fired. Okay. Ooh, I love it. You heard it here first. Yep. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. Do you want to win some of Tiffany's incredible candles? All you have to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest Instagram at Lauren Bostic and stock Tiffany on Instagram. Super easy to win. At Dear Media, we have them all over the office, the rosé champagne special edition candle is absolutely major. Go check them out. And with that, we'll see you next time. This episode is brought to you by the skinny confidential. How fun.

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