The Bossticks - Scarlett Johansson From Child Star To Mega Star, Skincare Secrets, & The Truth About Acting

Episode Date: April 3, 2023

#557: Today Scarlett Johansson sits down with us to talk about her experience growing up in stardom, from her family dynamic & what can happen whenever parents take advantage of their famous children in Hollywood, to the casting process, the turning points in her film career, and what her future in the film industry looks like. She also gets into her wellness routines while filming, how preparing for Iron Man changed her outlook on exercise, her experience with Marvel & her own production company. Scarlett also gives insight into her lifelong struggle with acne, what helped & what didn't, and why she began her own skincare company, The Outset.   To connect with The Outset click HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   To subscribe to our YouTube Channel click HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM This episode is brought to you by The Skinny Confidential.   This episode is brought to you Vivrelle Vivrelle is the first of its kind luxury accessories, members-only club providing members access to borrow designer handbags, jewelry, watches and diamonds. Visit Vivrelle.com and use code SKINNY at checkout for 20% off your first month of membership. This episode is brought to you by Sun Bum Sun Bum creates products to protect the world from the sun, specifically formulated to help protect those of us who love and live in the sun. Use code SKINNY at www.sunbum.com for 15% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Nutrafol Nutrafol is the #1 dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement, clinically shown to improve your hair growth, thickness, and visible scalp coverage. Go to nutrafol.com and use code SKINNYHAIR to save $10 off your first month's subscription, plus free shipping on every order. This episode is brought to you by Betterhelp BetterHelp is online therapy that offers video, phone, and even live chat-only therapy sessions. So you don't have to see anyone on camera if you don't want to. It's much more affordable than in-person therapy & you can be matched with a therapist in under 48 hours. Our listeners get 10% off their first month at betterhelp.com/skinny. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace From websites and online stores to marketing tools and analytics, Squarespace is the all-in-one platform to build a beautiful online presence and run your business. Go to squarespace.com/skinny for a free trial & use code SKINNY for 10% off your first purchase of a website domain. This episode is brought to you by AG1 AG1 is way more than greens. It's all of your key multi-vitamins, minerals, pre-and probiotics, and more, working together as one. Go to athleticgreens.com/SKINNY to get a free 1 year supply of vitamin D and 5 free travel packs with your first purchase. Produced by Dear Media  

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A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, him and her. I think acting is something that grows forever. It's like it's limitless. I love my job. I absolutely love.

It's definitely harder to do it in some ways than it was before just because of, you know, when you have kids and whatever, everything is more challenging. My passion for performance is so strong. I don't know that I'll be making movie after movie after movie like acting forever, but I mean, I'm sure that will slow at some point. Nothing comes to mind that would like take me away. I'm not the type of person that could just move to some beautiful locale and just disappear forever. I wouldn't know how to do that. What a day. We have Scarlett Johansson in studio.

She is sitting down to talk with us about growing up in stardom, her new company that she's launching, wellness routines, skincare beauty hacks, all the things. Before we get to the episode with Scarlett, which I'm sure you're on the edge of your seat to hear, I wanted to make a quick announcement here. We wanted to make a quick announcement here. Finally, we are listening to everybody's request for the longest time. Lauren and I have actually recorded all of these podcasts on video for years now. We just hadn't been releasing them on a normal cadence. We have a full YouTube channel if you just search the Skinny Confidential. All of these podcasts are now full-length video format episodes as well. You can view them, watch them, listen to them here in your favorite

place, but also on YouTube, all the full-length videos are there. We're also producing shorts, and we will be going back into some of our older, most popular episodes on an archive channel that will live on that same channel. We also, in conjunction with the YouTube channel, have a brand-new updated podcast website if you just go to tsdeepodcast.com. It's a brand new site. You can search everything. You can find everything. All the deals, all the offers, all the episodes, completely searchable. Brand new, updated, designed, formatted. Looking great. Let's get to the juice. Scarlett Johansson on how she began her acting career, the casting process, being a child star in Hollywood. Even the turning points of her career, we talk about her constant struggle with acne,

putting intention into your skincare routine, how preparing for Iron Man changed her entire look on exercise. Even you guys, I got her go-to cocktail. On that note, let's welcome Scarlett Johansson, the co-founder of the outset, to the skinny confidential him and her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. You use Colostrom? Where do you get that from? It's Epicureen. Yeah. Well, he uses C. Fruick. Listen, here's what I do. Well, get him on your mask. He'll do your mask. I have people like you come on the show and then I get all the product. Wait, Colostrum like from breast milk? They put it in skin stuff now, too. Whose breast milk are they using?

Actually, I do take a lot of colostrum in this new powder form. Where is it coming from, though? I don't know. Wait a minute. You have no issue taking random breast milk? I never have. You've been taking it for a long time? I feel like we can press record and just hop in with the breast milk.

Scarlett's in the studio. She's been following me for a year. She's been trying to get on this show for a long time. She just has been waiting to get in touch with me for. Delirious. And where have you been? He's delirious. He's delirious.

He's been on the runway. I've been, our flight was yesterday at 6 p.m. It took off at 2 a.m. It landed here at 7 a.m. And here we are. So you took a red eye, but you didn't intend to take a red eye. We said goodbye to our children at 5 p.m. thinking we were leaving at 6 and then we landed at 7. Michael, I can't hear your whole life story. So I have to ask what her skincare is on right now. So I got in the elevator and you have like a dewy glow situation. What's happening? What's happening? I have not, I'm so exhausted. I haven't slept in a very long time. This is what I use every day. I use our cleanser. Every day, I use serum in the morning and then the daily moisturizer. That's what I use every morning. Do you mix it with like foundation or CC cream or is this? I don't put any foundation on. I have some concealer on because I desperately needed it this morning. I have a little like blush and like some little shimmer and that's it. keep it simple. Yes. Is that because when you're filming, it's so much glam and makeup and pulling and you go through the car wash? I don't know what I would be, if I would have like more of a full face

of makeup if I didn't work in a job where I wore makeup for the last like, you know, 30 years. But I do wear a lot of makeup for film and stuff. So that's probably part of it. Yeah. Well, the glow is beautiful. Thanks. I honestly, I could be because we just launched a blue clay mask that I used a day ago to, my skin is so tired also from wearing a lot of makeup for work and stuff like that. So it could be that. It did take a lot of the redness out, actually. And can you bring it down to your neck? The mask? Yeah. Yeah. It's totally gentle. It doesn't, I didn't, I can't stand that kind of clay, like, dry, cracky. That gives me acne. Because I have acne-prone skin. So if I use, like, a cracky clay mask, you know, that, like, flakes off and stuff, it's not good for me.

You see you notes. Do you ever use a mask? I'm going to now if you tell me to. Do you put it in your beard? I think you're supposed to, right? Yeah, that's the difficult thing. Sometimes you wear those masks and they just kind of hang loose on the hair. It doesn't. So at least I get it up here.

You have to like brush it in there. Yeah. It's not great, but you know, I'll take what I can get. I want to go way back to when you're young and you decide that you want to be an actress. What's that moment? Is there an epiphany? I don't think I had like an epiphany moment. I definitely was in.

to singing, dancing, jazz, hands, Broadway, like all of that stuff. So I watched a lot. My mom took me to a lot of theater when I was growing up. She would wait on the half-price ticket line in Times Square. And then we would go and see a show, a musical when we could afford it and when there was, you know, whatever time to do it. Or I saw a lot of musical movies growing up, like movies from my mom's childhood, all the Rogers and Hammerstein movies and, like, Judy Garland.

movies, you know, like Vincent Minnelli movies and stuff like that. And so I just, I don't, I think it was kind of baked in there. I was one of those singing, dancing kids all around my apartment. And then my, someone had told, I think my older brother, one of his friends was doing commercials or something like that. And the mom who was friends with my mom at school said, oh, you know, you should bring, you have, I have three siblings, four kids. She was like, you, you should bring your kids to this commercial agent and see if, you know, maybe they want, maybe they'll be interested or whatever. So we all met and went with this commercial agent. They didn't want any of us except my older brother, Adrian. And I was devastated, like really, really devastated.

And how old were you? I was probably seven. And my mom said to me, because she had, you know, we were totally broke. We had to have a means to really do any kind of extracurricular activities that much. And she was like, if you really want to do this, like there's some expenses to it. You have to get headshots. It's like, I have to take time out of my day to take you to auditions and stuff. You have to prepare things. You know, and I was seven. So it's hard. I have a seven or eight and a half year old daughter. And so you never know if kids are like, it's a whim or they're really serious about it. And like, we didn't really have the means to just kind of like do, you know, do it casually. And she was like, if you want to do it, like, you really have to commit. And I was really committed to it.

And so we kind of, you know, my mom was like, okay, she saw that I was really committed to it. I went and did acting classes at Lees-Drasbourg Institute in here in the city and got headshots and started going out to meet people. And that's how I started working. And what's your first break that you remember? The first thing I ever booked was a KitchenAid voiceover commercial. And I never booked another commercial again. And after that, I did a off-Broadway play called Sophistry where I had a.

had one line in it with Ethan Hawk, and then I booked a job, I booked a film role in a Rob Reiner movie called North with Elijah Wood and had this crazy cast. Faith Ford played my mom and John Ritter played my dad and we, like this kind of all-American family. It's actually a really sweet book and film. And then that was it. And then I started, I was kind of, you know, the thing is back, I don't know if it's still like this, but you, you know, in New York used to have, I mean, think more, now it's different, obviously, post-pandemic and everything and with Zoom, and I know a lot of actors are auditioning on, you know, doing tapings and stuff like that, which is unfortunate because it's brutal.

It is brutal. And like being in person is like, it's just, it's, how can you get the nuance of someone like when we're not even actors, but we won't do this unless it's like this because it's, we tried it on Zoom and it's a disaster. It's tough, you know, it's really tough. And I feel for, you know, actors today because it's, it's, it's, you put so much work into these tapings, like, you know, and it's just a constant kind of. of let down. Anyway, it was a thriving kind of casting process here when I was a kid,

fortunately. And so agents would see kids in L.A. and then they would see kids, you know, in New York. And they'd go through, they kind of do like a search on both coasts. And so you would go in and sometimes it was a cattle call and sometimes you'd go in and it was like very specific. And you got to know casting directors as a kid. And if they liked you, even if you didn't book a job, but you got good feedback, you know, they would call you in for other stuff. And so that's how I started. I just... What is it like being a child on set? Is it a different dynamic or is it the same as when you're adult? Like, are you going to school? How is your mom there? Like, what does that look like? You are, yeah, you definitely, there's a lot of rules about that stuff. So, and because, you know,

it was, like, abused for decades, like, for a long time. And so there were certain cases that kind of paved the way for how kids are educated and treated on set now. So there's very, like, specific rule, SAG rules, guild rules about how, and like I'm sure, you know, child labor rules about how kids are how much work they can do when they have breaks, how much schooling you need. You have to have an adult chaperone, you know, parent or, you know, with you and all that stuff. It's hard to also know who to trust within the industry when you're young. I feel like it's hard to know who to trust within the industry in general, but when you're young, like it's really cool that it sounds like your mom sort of helped streamline everything

for you. She did. I was really fortunate. I had, you know, not everybody has a great experience with their stage mom in quotes, but my mom was really, she was great. You know, she was very loving and responsible and, you know, really watched out for me and all of us, you know, but because I was, she was my, you know, she was my adult, my responsible adult. She, she really did a great job of that. And I think that's what kept me from probably a lot of weird situations. You're, you're so lucky. I just, read like, I'm probably pronouncing her name wrong, but Jeanette McCurdy's book about her stage mother and it was like, right, I was the whole time my jaw was on the ground. Yeah, I know. There's a lot of, I mean, you know, in any situation where kids are working, you know, there's going to be whatever it is,

whether it's, you know, dance or music or, you know, film TV or sports or, you know, you're always going to have those unfortunate situations where parents are kind of taking advantage of their kids and living vicariously through their kids. But, you know, I was lucky I didn't have. to deal with that. Yeah, it's like everyone hears the horror stories of McCulley Colkin and like him making all that money and then kind of losing it because the parents took advantage. Was that issue kind of solved when you were working or was that something that was out there still?

I mean, that situation, you know, with Mac, I think was very particular because he also, you know, was his parent, they separated and his dad was his manager.

And so that was a whole thing where there was like a percentage involved and whatever. I mean, I think if I'm wrong, I may be wrong in this, but I think it was. one of the little rascals actually that had a case where it was a similar thing where his parents took all his money or something like that. I don't know all the details I'm like misspeaking

probably. But I believe that that was like that's where you know the kind of line was drawn as far as like you know how you have to have it open a trust and like a certain percentage of your salary goes into that trust and you know X, Y Z. I think you're still paying taxes like an adult though, which is bizarre. They'll get you every time. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I didn't know that.

Yeah, I think you're still taxed the same amount as an adult would be. So the Gerber baby pays taxes? 100%. Wow. A lot of taxes. Yes. Wow. That is crazy.

But the Gerber baby the last time I checked is still not eligible to vote. So that's unfortunate. Do you remember when you started to transition into more adult roles? Was there like a movie that evolved your career into a different, I don't know, a different way? I mean, I had several of those, like, along the way because it was such a, you know, it's like, as if I, like, retired, I just am I feel like I retired. But it's been such a long run. So there's been, like, you know, different kind of ups and downs or whatever that have, like,

different transitional periods of my group, much like, whatever life, I guess, in general, like, how you transition from, like, a child actor to, like, a adolescent and then, like, into your, you know, young adulthood and, you know, how you're seeing, you know, you go from like being an ingenue into, you know, roles that are more, and are established in a different kind of way. I mean, a huge turning point for me was getting cast in a horse whisper. Like that was a big, you know, it was my first big studio film where I had a leading role. I'd done a lot of independent film before that. That's what I said to Michael.

I said, that's the first movie that I remember you in. I was a little girl and I thought, who is this cool girl on screen? But there, I don't, there wasn't Google. So I couldn't search who you were. Like I just could see you on screen. You couldn't go find. Maybe there was Google, but I was too young to use it. Yeah, you needed to get a blockbuster card.

And then you could probably go and look at it. I love that movie The Horse Whisper. So it's iconic. It really is iconic. It's a great book, too. And it was a great, you know, it was a wonderful experience making it. But that was a, I was also 12. So I was also in a transitional period of my, you know, youth, too.

Because you're kind of becoming a young woman. you know, and it was, it was reflected in that movie too, I think. Yeah, and the camera being right in your face, it's like, as you're going through puberty, I mean, that's intense. Yeah, I guess I, you know, I never really, the camera being there, it was some, it, I've always felt like, maybe it's just because I've been doing it for such a long time that the camera, to me, the film, film camera anyway, is, you know, I have such a unique relationship with it in a way that probably, an, you know,

musician does with an instrument, you know. It's kind of like you're, you have this awareness of it, how it works, you know, when they used to use film, like what it sounds like, the presence of it in a room and how it's your audience in a way, like, as if you were performing, you know, an actor on stage, you're aware of the audience there and you, and the energy that that audience has in a theater

and what it brings to your performance. That same, I think, for actors with film cameras, some, whether it makes them nervous or whether they're, to have a sort of, you know, a comfortable relationship in front of it or whether it's both, you know, it's unique, I guess. When you're getting up to film, I think about this all the time and you have to go on to like a 16 hour day. Are you doing things in the morning before you get to the makeup chair? Like I would put my face in a bucket of ice. Like, I mean, you have to be very early.

Then you have all these people touching your face. Then you have to be on camera. Like, is there any practices or rituals that you're doing to prepare? You know, I get up in the morning. Again, I have a very simple skincare routine. I use our products only in my makeup chair. I have our products. You know, I get up, wash my face, put my serum, do my moisturizer. I go to the gym in the morning.

And I've been doing Pilates for a few years that I really enjoy for like an hour. And then that's it. You know, go to work, rinse off again in my trailer, do the same, like, skincare routine. And then sit in a chair and go. you know, let professional people, like, tape my face back together, I guess. When you're a... Whatever they do. I don't know.

When you're a young kid like that, 12, 13, and you have that kind of intention, how do you contextualize that? Like, for me, I'm just thinking, like, I'd be going off the rails if I got any of that kind of attention. I wonder, like, did you have kind of a normal high school, middle school upbringing? Or was it, like, people in your school saying, like, hey, there's Scarlett, and she's on TV? I had a normal high school upbringing.

Yeah. I went to a school called Professional Children's School, which is here in the city. It's not a performing arts school, but it's a school for kids that are professional children. There are, you know, a lot of school of American ballet dancers, Juilliard students, some actors. So there's people doing similar work? Kind of. I don't know. But yeah, there were a few other actors there. There were a lot of dancers and musicians there, but mostly kids that are, you know, they have careers.

So they're like a little, you know, they think there's. There's a certain kind of understanding that we are all, you know, we're all artistic. We're all working on, you know, we all have careers. We're, you know, there was a certain kind of, I guess, respect in that way where you didn't feel like you were like a complete weirdo outsider. It was helpful because I was working a lot. Is there a different level of scrutiny, I guess, or a different level of supervision? Supervision in what way?

Meaning, like, I just think about, you know, when we were young and the things we were getting into and all the mischief that we were we were up to and I wonder like with you or were you able to kind of have that kind of childhood or that kind of adolescence or was it like hey did you have a bodyguard no no I was it was another time I mean you're also like it wasn't when there were no cell phone cameras and stuff back then so I thank God because I would that would suck and I was able to be like go to a party and smoke pot and be a weird you know be a lawn like not have to worry about being, you know, I could be myself. I can't imagine growing up with, I think, we didn't get these kind of phones until we're out

of college. So we had that whole thing without that kind of. No, it would set with social media and all that stuff. I mean, I can't even imagine how that's a lot to, I look at young, you know, kids like people today and it seems like a burden. One thing about you that I admire is you've really played a long game. I think a lot of, a lot of, you know, Lindsay Lohan type of, of, of actors. got caught up in a lot of stuff. And it feels like you just didn't. You've always evolved,

like you've always just really played the long game. Was that a strategy or it's just natural? Did you know to just stay out of like the, out of the Lindsay Lohan-S stuff? Again, I had like a really supportive mom. I think I just, I grew up in New York. My parents were not industry people. You know, my mom was that. there to, again, take care of me and make sure she was very dedicated to making sure I got my schooling and I had my time off and, you know, my parents weren't like taking advantage of my, of me in any way at that time. And so it just, I think it was, that was part, is a huge part of it. Your parents sound amazing with four kids. Yeah. So, I mean, it is, yeah, it is a lot of kids.

How many kids do you have? Two. Feels like four. How old are your kids? Three and eight months. Oh, you have a baby. I have a baby. So fun. Yeah, it's so fun. But it's a lot of work. And four kids sounds, I mean, it's not a joke.

You also have two little kids. Yeah. So maybe, yeah. But I heard it doesn't get any, I heard it just gets harder in different ways. Well, the toddler phases, it's, the toddler phase is intense. Three is really tough. I remember my daughter, my daughter is eight and a half and she, when she was two, I thought, this is great.

I don't know what everybody is talking about. then she turned three and it was like being in an emotionally abusive relationship. They're a boss. They boss you around. It's crazy. It was just so intense. You can't reason with them at that age. No reasoning, no like very intense emotional swings and like so bossy and adamant and like, it's just crazy.

And also these huge mood swings, constant mood swings, which I was like, this is, it's just so, these, those poor little guys, I feel bad for him. It must be a lot to be feeling so. It's hard to regulate. Yeah, you're like up and down constantly. The little things goes wrong. What? So the little girls are tough on the moms too. I like, I can do no wrong.

Like I, every time my daughter sees me, she's like, oh, like, then just brutal on her. Yeah. Yeah. It's tougher for us. And then you have a boy, a little boy. Yeah. Oh, that's nice. The baby, everyone complains about the baby.

I think the baby stage is so much easier than the toddler stage. Yeah. Having a baby is so lovely. They just sit there. Yeah, they're so cute. They sit there and they love you and that's it. And you just get like love from them. Whereas you get a lot of grief from non-alers.

Like everything you do is not right, which is hard. Yeah. I know, Michael. You sit there and you have no idea what we're talking about. Well, I try to be supportive. Our partner, Katie, was over there probably just like, yes, been through it all. Speaking of having a baby, when you decide you want to have a baby and you're filming all this and you've got to so much going on. You've got this huge life. How are you balancing everything? There is no balance.

I know. I mean, I think that's the first any hack. I don't know. If you figure it out, let me know. I'm looking for any kind of balance. But don't you feel in a way like when people ask, I feel like in a way it focuses you a little bit more because you're so intentional with your time because the way I look at it is any time that is away from my kids, like it's really got to be worth it. The job's got to be worth it. sitting on the runway for 18 hours. Yeah, so that's not, yeah. Well, then now this is worth it. But do you get what I point?

Like, I feel like it focuses you. Yeah. Your perspective changes for sure. And like that is, I don't know whether that's a hack, but it's like it helps you, it helps the pieces of your life kind of like fall into place a little bit. I think when you have this other priority. And so, yeah, what you're saying is I think that I feel the same way where you go, wait, I'm going to be, this job is going to take me away from my family for X, XYZ

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So what do you do if you have to go away for a movie? You get to bring... I bring my family with me. Wow. Yeah. But that's also like an adventure, I feel like. It's also fun. No? It's hard, I think. Oh, I'm sure. Because I work, usually, I work like 15-hour days, you know, so I don't, I, if I'm going to be working on something and have to relocate everybody, it's, it's adventurous in some ways, but it's for the kids, but they also need stability too. So now that my daughter is older, I really, you know, I don't work in the same way that I used to work when I was, you know, 25 years old and just like you're, you know, you can, that's all your, your, your whole focus is that, you know, it's like work and, you know, I mean, it was for me anyway.

I was just like I was very career driven and focused at that time and less focused on my own personal growth or whatever. Is that why you decided to launch your brand? I decided to launch my brand because I felt like I was in a place where I had a point of view and I could do something. I had the curiosity to have a startup and understand what the risks of that. were because it is risky right and it's not like we're not a massive company backed by like some huge conglomerate like all of this this the outset is is a personal project you know and it's really comes from my passion for skincare i had acne for like my entire why don't i ever picture you with acne i can i had you know i was always i always had makeup on for events like in my personal life i

struggled with acne for such a long time. The point where my makeup artist was like, it was like, you have acne now and then soon you'll have wrinkles and acne. And I was like, great, this is, there's got to be an end. It was such, it was tough because, you know, we do a job where you're in front of your photographed and closely. And, you know, it was something that was like constantly on my mind. And it wasn't until, and I was using very drying, aggressive. treatments on my face constantly, like, whether it was like exfoliants or chemical expolience or drying creams or trying to do like dietary, like, you know, trying to cut out certain things or trying to understand like what was causing all this acne. And then just making it worse and

worse for like a decade of time. And then it wasn't until I started just, I was like, you know what, I'm going to stop everything. I'm just going to do a gentle exfoliation. And, you know, just moisturize and like put just give myself a break and then my skin started healing itself and that's all and that that that's actually what this line was born out of was that like gentle approach to skin care because it like it completely changed my it changed my life it really did just not having that you know not not not being I mean I don't think about my skin I used to think about it constantly and it's just by switching your products.

It was purely by switching my products and my approach to my method of self-care, which was a lot of, like, I was constantly cleansing and stripping my skin because I just felt like that was, you know, when you have acne, I think you feel like, oh, my skin is oily or it's dirty or I have to clean my pores out or, you know, so you're using all this aggressive stuff all the time. And it just was, it was like decades of just raw, you know, raw. skin like that. And it really, it was, you know, it affects how you feel about yourself, of course. Sure. It's like occupies a lot of time. I think when you talk to anybody who has any kind of

skin, what they, you know, pursue as some sort of issue or concern, like it does definitely take up a lot of brain space. Well, especially if it's being amplified and like you said, you're on camera all the time and everyone's scrutinizing you and you're in all these different publications. Like people are, you know, whether you like it or not, they're judging and they're looking, like that's got to be something different pressure. Sure, that makes it even, you know, maybe feel even more you're even more self-conscious about it. I think anybody who has that, and whether you're being photographed or not, is going to have feelings about it.

Everyone's like a micro celebrity on their social media. Right? So they're like photographing them. Especially now. Yeah, people zooming in and everything. Is there a certain diet that you follow, like paleo, vegan, or do you just eat intuitively? No, I mean, I have in the past explored certain diets if I was like preparing for something. but no, I eat intuitively.

If you're preparing for something, is it like weightlifting? Is it Pilates? You know the Black Widow? Lauren's not a big, she's not a big comic book nerd. I'm a huge comic book nerd. He's a huge comic nerd.

When you go out for a role like that, one, do you know the length of time you're going to be cast as that character? I mean, did you know there's like 18 movies that you're signing up for and that you have to basically learn 18 different forms of martial arts? Or are you just kind of like,

hey, I'm going for one movie and we'll see what happens. I mean, it was, you know, at that time, I signed on for the second Iron Man movie, and so it was not, that genre of filmmaking wasn't established like it is now. Are you one of the longest running? I'm trying to think of like who else has been. Maybe Robert Downey Jr. was. Robert. Yeah. I mean, there's other, I, it's, you know, Don. Because you were in the second Iron Man. So what is that? Is that like the fourth or fifth? For Marvel, it was the, it was actually the second MCU movie. Oh, it was. I didn't even realize it well. Okay, so you were super early in there. Yeah, yeah. the workout? What is the, what is, is it cut carbs? What do you do? It's a lot of pressure. It's changed over time because that was, that was, you know, when I made that film, I was 25 or something, 24. And I had

never been to a gym in my entire life. Stop. I was 24. I mean, I, it changed my life in a lot of ways, but it changed my whole outlook on exercise and like, you know, I mean, it was life-changing for me. Is this a true stat that you are the highest grossing box office star of all time because of all the movies that you've been in that universe? Somebody told me that yesterday for the first. I would not heard that. I thought it was Sam Jackson or Robert. But somebody told me yesterday that I had surpassed

them. But I'm sure it's just until the next Sam Jackson movie comes out. Because I mean, look, there's like 18, I mean, I went recently and had to go back and like catch up on all of them. And now it's so deep. And it took me like, two weeks to get through it. He's someone that can not. How did you have that much time? Yeah. I don't. Because he hides in the, no, no, no. You hide it. I catch you. I get up early in the morning when nobody's awake and that's when I get the time. And then I watch, you're watching Doctor Strange at 5 a.m. I'm going to be dead honest. I've kind of lost track of the shows because there's so many. I watch

your show. I did. What show? The one with the Cold War and the, it was the show. It was on the Disney Plus. I've never done a show for Marvel. You haven't, Black Widow? Maybe you are watching the movies at 5 a.m. I don't know. I just know that you're in a shitload of these things. Right? And I'm like, how do you come? That's the exact number.

I feel like the band boozele you. They're like, hey, you're going to sign up for this character. And next thing you know you're in 18 films. And I'm sure it's great from what career is like, but you're in it forever. Like, how do you like, when you're like, hey, guys, like, this is enough here. I had a very unique, you know, trajectory with Marvel because I bit was there from the, from the beginning. And so, you know, I, yes, you know, when I signed on to do. what to play Natasha Romanov, it was like a lot of films and, you know, but there were movies

that we didn't actually end up making. And so I was able to kind of go back in and say, you know, okay, this is, let's like look at this again. We made this contract before kind of Marvel knew what they were doing. And let's sort of figure out like what the path of this character is going to be. And honestly, like I've had, I love my Marvel family and Kevin Feige who's our boss man over there is so he loves working with actors so much he's such a cinephile

he like lives and breathes this stuff he's an incredible storyteller and an amazing person on many many levels and is an really special collaborator and I think he you know he never wants to make anything that actors don't want you know want the movies are incredible to hold you to be in something Like, if you're not on board and don't want to play, then, like, he doesn't, nobody wants, you know.

And by the way, just so I don't look like a bozo that hasn't researched, Black Widow was released on the Disney Plus thing. That's why I got confused because I thought, because I didn't go and see it in a movie. Don't screw with his comics. No, I knew that, but it wasn't a show. It was the movie Black Widow was released on Disney. If I try to watch anything out of order, he won't let me watch it out of order. He won't let me do anything.

I have to watch it in order. I have to have a notebook to keep track of Wendy. With the timeline who wouldn't have watched, it's a show. It's a lot. Yeah, there's some's on the movie, someone's on the platform. It's confusing. It is. I don't, I understand.

I understand your pain. Well, it's like, what the hell are you talking about? She wants to get back to the skin. I get it. No, I want to get back to how you stay in shape for these movies. Like, what is the workout that we need to be doing? I did weight lifting for a long time. That was my thing.

I liked lifting heavy and low reps. That was like mining. Everybody has their own thing, and I liked that. But I got to an age when I was actually training on Black Widow, you know, I think it's hard to lift heavy weights at a certain point. Your body reacts in a different way than it's the recovery is tough. And so I started doing Pilates to try to give myself a break from some of the heavy weight lifting. And I just fell in love with it.

And now I do that mostly, most regularly. Lauren, I'm going to show you some of these Black Widow moves on. I'm going to pull it up on the iPad and you're going to be like, what the hell is going on here. I'm watching the horse whisper. Yeah, the horse whispers. It's a different vibe. Right. Yeah.

Yeah, that involved less chicken. It shows her rain. She has a lot of rain. No snapping necks and firing machine guns in that one. This is different. Okay, Michael, I have to ask another question about the Pilates. When you go to Pilates, are you doing private Pilates? Are you doing it at home?

Are you going to a class? Like, what's the way you do Pilates? I do Pilates. I do private sessions with a teacher. Yeah. Do you do it like six days a week, five days a week? It depends. When I'm shooting, I train five days a week.

When I'm not probably four, three, four. What are your health and wellness hacks? You obviously have your skincare nail down. You have your Pilates. What are your things in your toolbox that you use a lot? There are no hacks to health and wellness. It's all like this, you know, it's just, I don't know what they are. I honestly, I think for me personally doing physical exercise, you know, as many times a week as I can do keeps me like mentally sane.

and that is, that goes a long way. Because I'm not getting as much sleep as I should be. I try to nap if I can. You know, when the kids are now, my baby's napping where I try to nap when I can. I eat too late. You know, I like love to have a glass of wine at the end of the day. I'm not a person that's going to, like,

I don't have time for, to make, you know, I'm not going to be able to stick to some crazy diet unless somebody's like making food for me. And that drives me crazy too. I love to cook. I'm a very like casual person in that way. And so I think my go-to thing is that I try to do physical exercise as, you know, whenever I can in the week because it helps my whole like mental well-being. What kind of wine are you drinking? Our audience loves details. Is it red? Is it white? Is it rosé? What is it? I like red wine and I like a rosé sometimes and, you know,

I love to hear that you drink wine. I'm more of a wine. Margarita person, really, but I'll go for a glass of wine. I'm a margarita person. I'm a wine. How good is a margarita? Nothing better. I don't think there's a better cocktail. It's a better cocktail. It's a delicious and perfect cocktail. Yeah, I don't think there's a We had our outset party last night and they made like some kind of a margarita that was like it had camomile in it. So it was supposed to be relaxing. By the way, I have a hangover today from it. But I was talking to the bartender about it. I said, is it annoying when people order margaritas because it's so simple. And he said to me, he's like, it is the best cocktail. He agreed.

the bartender who was very knowledgeable and making all these things with like herbal essences or whatever agreed that a simple margarita is the best cocktail. It's so good with a half room of tahin too. What's that? Like the spicy salt. Oh, the reds style.

The reddish one, yeah. That is delicious. It kind of blows you up, but that's okay. Why is it so good? I don't know it's so good. It has that tart kind of, what's that tardy like flavor? Yeah.

It's bitter. I don't know what it is. It's so good. It's just perfect with like a skinny margarita. How involved are you on the business end of... This is a transition. This podcast is like a thing of checks, you never know what you're going to get. We got to get it all in.

No, well, we do. I want to know how involved you are on the business side. Is it something where you just give your opinion? Like, is it something where you're on calls every day with like building the business? Are you involved in the social media? Like, what do you have your hands in with the company? Do you pop in on the Zoom screen and start yelling at the supplier? What's going on?

Yeah. No, that I don't do. That Kate Foster does. is who is here. That's her, that's her territory. You imagine being that supplier and you pop in dresses black widow. Maybe I should start popping in actually. We'll talk about it. Maybe things would be a little more seamless. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely, you know, we have our, you know, we have our board meeting today. At the end of our work day today, we're doing our board meeting. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work that goes into having, you know, a startup,

especially when you have, as my best, my best girlfriend said to me, she was like, having a product you have to make and then store and ship to people that is a physical product is it's so hard. It's such a hard, especially with a lot of the challenges that are happening now and over the past few years we launched during the pandemic. It was, you know, it had its own unique challenges, the supply chain, et cetera. But, you know, we are, it's, you know, we're scrappy. And I, and I, and that's one of the, that's what I like about our, about our company. You know, it really, is a total labor of love and passion from everybody that works at our company. We're small, but we're mighty.

It takes up a lot of brain space, though. I imagine it's also fulfilling in a different way because you've done so much in your other career, which is acting. And like this is maybe in some ways new in a different kind of challenge and a different kind of beast to take your arms around. It's a whole other environment. Like last night we had our one year birthday party. It was a really fun cocktail party.

And we had all these different beauty editors and like influencers. and really interesting people in a world that is brand new to me. And so just getting to meet people that are passionate about skin, passionate about beauty and this whole industry is, it is really fun. It's just completely different than anything that I've done before. Yeah, I could see that. I mean, and I was going to ask you, like, when you think about your adjacent career in acting, like, how much you've done, like, does that, do you still get excited about roles?

you're like, oh, like, it's really, you've got to really be selected now because you've done so much. Like, do you still get the same kind of fire in your belly that you had in the beginning? Or you're just like, ah, it's got to be right at this point. I do. I love my job, you know, more than I ever loved it. I understand it better than I ever have. And I hope to continue to understand it even more. It is a, I think acting is a, you know, it's something that grows forever.

It's like, it's limitless. And you, the more you, experience in life. I think the deeper you understand the work that you do. And I love my job. I absolutely love it. It's definitely harder to do it in some ways than it was before just because of, you know, when you have kids and whatever, everything is more challenging because of the imbalance, balance that you were talking about earlier. But it's not my passion for performance is so strong. And I love working with other actors. I have a production company called These Pictures and we have a whole bunch of stuff we're developing for myself or other people. I love that process of development.

And I think similarly the outset is like my production company, it's that same process of development, creative collaboration, and then feedback that I really enjoy. So you're not someone that's like, hey, you know, one day I'm riding off into the sunset and you'll never see me again. You like the craft and you think it'll continue. I don't know that I'll be making movie after movie after movie like acting forever, but I mean, I'm sure that will slow at some point. But it doesn't mean that I won't transition into other parts of filmmaking. I love, I can't imagine what else I could possibly do that would be, you know, nothing comes to mind that would like take me away in the way that you're describing.

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There is 10 step, 12 step, all these different things. And you've really refined and simplified it, which I think is really smart. If you were to tell our audience to start with one product out of the line, and I'm also going to give the one product that I'm also going to give the one product that I I think I would start with, but you go first. What would it be? Probably the cleanser, because it is so gentle and so it's, you can use it for everything. Like I've, you know, I've, it's, it's for, I mean, I probably should not. I'm like, I had like, I don't even know if I'm supposed to be doing this, but it's such a, like, I had like this, like, the wound that I had on my arm and I was

like using it to wash with it because it actually is so gentle. that you can, like, it's never going to sting. It's never going to react to anything you're using. If you're using active things on your, we always say the outset plays well with others. You can be using all that active stuff and wash your face with our cleanser, and it's never going to have any kind of crazy reaction with anything. And we also have refillables of it, which I think is you get a great value. It's responsible in different ways.

And, you know, I think it's just, for me, like it's the kind of pillar. Were there pillars of this brand when you started it that you wanted to hit? Yes, the cleanser was definitely one of them. I was like really a setafil kind of user, just like gentle cleanser. You're very approachable with your tips. But you know what? It's so funny because when I... See, I want a setafil.

You were using like old spice on your balls and like setafil on your neck. I had to refine everything he was doing, but go on. Oh yeah. That old spice on your balls hack is really out. stated. No, I was using setafil and then when I, what did you say? That's another never going to sponsor me. Or maybe you'll be the face of it. Or the balls of it. Or the balls of setafil. No, I, when I started, when we started pulling apart like, all, we're like, okay, we're going to, you know, commit ourselves to, we started going down this avenue of making, of doing clean products. It's kind of a

nebulous term, but how can we eliminate as many harmful ingredients as possible while still being effective because we want as many people to be able to use it. And myself and my co-founding partner, Kate, both have very sensitive skin. I have acne-prone skin. She's a lot of, like, redness in her skin. And so when we started pulling apart, okay, this is our benchmark. You know, I love set of full face wash or whatever. It's full of so much stuff that you can't even believe what's in there that it was like, oh, we can't this, we can never make this formula clean. Like, it's not, you know, and then you start to kind of say, okay, well, what is the, like, what's the journey going to be to get something that has this performance but actually is not, you know,

is like not, doesn't have these crazy ingredients that are really bad for the environment and for yourself. And so the cleanser was definitely one of them. I was very big on this prep step. And so that's how we came to this serum initially. Like I really wanted to, wanted it to have like a glow concept. And then when we started understanding, okay, well, if it's a glow concept, then it has to have like something, you know, it has to have some kind of, you know, filler in it that's going to basically sit on your skin and not do anything. It was like, well, what gives you glowing skin? Like, it's the moisture. And it really kind of opened up the whole line. You know, once we understood, okay, can we get a, you know, hyerlonic acid? Can we do that in a botanical way? And we started playing around

with this cacha flower and we created this hylorosate complex, which is a botanical alternative to hyalonic acid it's in all of our products. And it's super, super moisturizing. Like, gives you this crazy moisture boost. Yeah. And these are like, these are, that's kind of how we started developing the line. Just was very, like I said, every single step was just very intentional. Initially, we had a lip product that we wanted to launch because that was a really important thing for me. But it wasn't, you know, we got all the way, all the way to the end. And then it was like, oh, wait, it's not shelf stable. These are the things that you realize. You have the best lips in Hollywood. Everyone tells you that. I mean, I have so many girls I feel like have brought your

lips to their doctor and been like, want your natural lips. Oh. I mean, I feel like a lip product is it, I would, I, the lip product, you know what? We finally kind of cracked it like a few weeks ago. I think we finally took a really long time. It's hard to make products clean. It just really is. You'll do, or they'll be, you'll have a product that's imperfect and then you'll go, oh, wait, it has like this trace element of nut in it and we're not. allergen-free and we're gluten-free. It's a product process. People don't realize how long it takes to develop products, especially if you're not white labeling. It takes a long time. A long, long process. And we have a very high standard. But that's why I think we have such a great

like customer repeat rate is that the standard is high across the board and we're like not cutting corners, but it does take a very long time. The product that I think that the audience would really like to, I always say this wrong. Is it serum? Yes. Okay. This is the serum and I'll tell you why. How do you say it? Serum. Listen, we get so many reviews. You said you pronounce everything wrong?

We have a collection of bad reviews just based on how she pronounces things. It's kind of a thing at this point. Where are you from? This really foreign place called San Diego. California and I just can't pronounce things. Huh. But the reason that I would say that is because the way you just said it plays well with others and the way it lays on your skin, I can tell, mixes well with the conceivable.

dealer. There's nothing worse when I put on a serum on my skin and it balls up like a white peeling. Yeah, there's nothing worse. Yeah. And it's great under makeup. That's what I can tell on both you and Kate's skin. It's like very glowy. I wear it under makeup for film too. It doesn't have that pilling thing. That's really like because if you have a makeup artist that serves use a sponge on you and then they're like chasing these little balls of stuff. No, that's, Michael has no fucking idea what we're talking about. But what about all your steps is. Well, I'm doing whatever you guys tell me. I'm going to go back and I'm going to use this cleansing.

Wait a minute. When we talk about this colostrum thing for a minute, it's so weird. You are putting someone else's breast milk on your face and you're ingesting it? Is it a human being? I am not going to say I haven't done that before, but in this case. That was your partner. That was your wife. In this case, it's a product.

By the way, I take colostrum in powder form too. It's really good for you. From where is it coming? What's the company? It starts with an A. We love it. It's an A. I'm going to find it. But anyways, I don't know.

Is it human colostrum? Yeah, it's amazing. What? Listen. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. I have people like you come on the show. The amount of time, first of all, how little colostrum any woman gets, it's like two days.

Is every woman going to come out? I'd be like, this guy's using our colostrum. He's just rubbing it all over his face. There's poor little babies that are like all, they have our immune systems are all messed up because you're taking. You're taking the cholesterol. They're gold. Listen, the babies will understand. I'm coming here. I'm looking like the guy from the goonies off the plane last night. I need whatever

Colossum I can get on my face. And I'm going to switch now to your products because what I do is I wait for experts. He really does have a full routine. Yeah. Come on. Like Patrick Bateman. Like I'm not joking. Well, here's a whole. Here's a thing. I sit here like a dope and I gnaw on my head about these terms that I don't understand. But then I see the results. I'm like, okay, I might as well do it. Right. I think that's smart. Like I would have to be kind of a moron to not to do this stuff. Yeah. Can we do a giveaway for our audience? You're not on social media, huh? You're not on Instagram.

The outset is, I am not, though. Is that a choice that you made, like, strategically? Are you just sick of it after you get off work? Like, what's, what is that? I honestly am too fragile a person to have social media. I can't, my ego is too fragile. Really? Yeah.

I don't see that. You would get, like, a lot of support. I can't deal with it. I haven't, I have so much. Probably smart, though. My brain is too fragile. I'm like a delicate flower. I can only, I can only exist.

I have enough anxiety. You know what my tip is? Don't read the comments. That would give me so much anxiety. I can't. Well, you can't. There's no way you can win either way. Like you're doing...

I had Instagram once for three days. And when I started realizing that I'd spent 20 minutes looking at somebody's Instagram page who I will never, who was like worked for a friend of mine who had a family. I'm like, now know you have a Pipple and two daughters. and you live in like Burbank. I was like, what am? I just wasted 17 minutes of time. I now feel like I should move to California,

get this specific dog, and change my life in all these ways. It felt so bad. Like I was missing out on this random person's life. I can't do this. I'm too fragile. I have so much anxiety about other things. I can't.

So you don't even go on. I go on to the outset to look at our, what we're putting on there. I still think I'm not using it. it properly, so I can't actually get updated information. I don't know. I can't. When I go into the office, they show me what we're doing. And we also make terrible videos. Kate and I make terrible videos. We're both so bad at it. But it's fun. We do reader. We read review, customer reviews. I like to do that. I like to read the customer reviews and perform them for people on TikTok. But I don't have

TikTok. So you just have the account. Yeah, that's the right way to do it, though. Just use it. There's a tool because I think the people that get sucked in and that's a whole other thing. I mean, it's definitely fun. TikToks, every time I see it in our office, I then become like a three-year-old with their mom's phone where I get completely absorbed into it. It's just right. It's just right. It's distracting. It is distracting.

It's a big distraction. What I like about doing this is I just think that it's just us three. Then I forget later that it goes out to everybody. But it's because it's like in this environment where it's not, I'm not getting instant feedback from like a comment. It's just like it's going to go out at some point and then people will hear it. But there's no comment section. Yeah, there's no comment. Well, I guess there's like reviews, but there's no comment section, which is nice.

Yeah, the reviews are going to be like, hey, this guy's stealing all the baby's colostrum and what an asshole. Right. Yeah. They are going to say that. Let's make you the bad guy. I have one other question for you. I would imagine at points it gets irritating. Like a guy like me pops in, you're getting in the elevator and I pop out of nowhere and you

don't know how I'm like, oh shit, right? Right. Like that happened on the way up here. We're not going to lie, guys. Like, what is this? but that probably happens to you on a regular you came in hot in the elevator yeah well you know I was like hold I didn't want to wait to be honest I'm an impatient person so I wanted to get in the elevator so I'm like hey I imagine that at times can be good and at other times it's like well like in

you have so much attention all the time like can does that get irritating at times or you're just like hey it's part of the gig yeah of course it it does it can be irritating yeah I mean and it's part of the gig I guess it's both irritating and part of the gig you have a sick of it? Yeah, I mean, it definitely is, I think mostly not if people are being respectful and fine, but if someone is being rude and obnoxious, then yeah, that would irritate anybody, I guess. If they're chasing you down into an elevator, how to know where at. Right. Yeah, right. I mean, nobody wants to be photographed when they don't think they're being photographed. Nobody wants to be exploited in that kind of way. I don't think any person would want that.

Sure. Yeah, I imagine that's challenging because you have to be polite. and nice and grateful that you have that kind of You don't have to be polite and nice and grateful. Okay, perfect. See, Lauren, I told you. I believe it being polite, but I don't think you have to be nice to people. Well, you know what? I think the line is, like, if you have your kids with you and stuff, I think people should

just know, like, hey. Sometimes people do, and sometimes they don't, and you say, you know, I'm having a private moment with my family and thank you for supporting my work and have a lovely dad. I feel like this episode needs to be called Scarlett's Boundaries, because you do have good boundaries with social media. I mean, it is a lot about boundaries. Life is all about boundaries. Yeah. Isn't it? We are going to do a giveaway, you guys. All you have to do is tell us your favorite takeaway from this episode on my latest post at Lauren Bostic. It's going to be the

Colossum piece. It's going to be the Colossum piece. And then definitely follow at the outset on Instagram and on TikTok. We could watch our comment, our reader reviews. They're very popular. Yeah, go review it. Do a great review. And then I'll read it out. Be honest. You're going to look into the Colostrum, aren't you? I'm totally doing it. I know, I know you're fascinated by this. I know. I just want to know know where it comes from. I mean, don't you? A cow? And I'm so what I'm really curious about is that what's interesting to me is that you don't seem to have any curiosity about where it comes from. Well, because I believe that my wife gave it to me and that she has my best interest. But I mean, I could be wrong. Listen, I believe that what this year is you, you know. Right, but you have,

you may have curiosity about, oh, what are these ingredients? What's in it? It's also not of like a biohazard. I'm going to be honest. I stay in my lane of expertise. If you want to know, I don't know, the right protein powder, I might be able to be like, hey, I think this one's the run with the right it. But what kind of protein powder are you take? I like this one right now that's just three ingredients. It's like stevia, cacao, and then it's grass fed beef. It's only three ingredients. Do you mean the protein powder is milk? No, it's just a powder. But it's literally, and for people that don't eat meat, they're not going to like, but I like, there's only three ingredients. It has a dehydrated.

It's powder. Yeah, but the, the, the protein is, is cow milk, or what is it? No, it's, it's, like, actual, like, dehydrated, like, beef. Oh. I know it sounds gross, right? How do you eat it? You just put it in a shake, shake it up. Flameder, shake it up.

He does that one at 5 a.m. when he's watching. That's a lot of meat. Listen. I'm sorry. He's got a lot going on. There's breast milk on his face and meat. Watch. You're going to look into the protein powder, too, aren't you?

I would tell. I would think so because apparently, sorry, I've, you know, colon cancer is on the rise. And they say it's because we eat too much meat. Yes, poor meat. Bad sources of meat. That's why? Yeah. It's the source of meat is.

It's not just the fact that it's meat. It's the same thing with like bad. Now we're getting a real tangent here. You know, we're going to do this. Like bad sources of plants, right? Like a lot of these plants have like pesticides and heavy metals. So it's like you've got to source everything, right? And I think you can kind of go with the spectrum.

You know. So yeah, I agree with that. The best meat, by the way, I have to say, in my opinion, is force of nature. What's that mean? It's the best meat. It's a company. It's like sustainable and grassbed and raised right. They will send it to.

Get your force of nature and your claustrum. Oh my gosh. Listen, after this. I'm going to be absolutely shredded after this, you guys. I'm going to send you a big bag of dried meat and some colostrum. And some random person's brussel. Yeah, and I'll write a handwritten note from Michael. I would say where can we find you, but you're not on social media so we can follow at the outset.

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That's great. Face polish. Can use it every day. Get it all. Scarlett, you're a real one. Thanks for coming on. You're amazing. This was so much fun.

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