The Bossticks - Spencer Pratt On What Fame, Loss, & Starting Over Taught Him About Power And Truth

Episode Date: February 2, 2026

#935: Join us as we sit down with Spencer Pratt – reality TV's original villain & an icon of millennial fame culture. Best known for The Hills, he continues to evolve as a media personality – appearing on Celebrity Big Brother, The Hills: New Beginnings, and most recently going viral on TikTok for his crystal hauls, hummingbird obsession, absurd burrito stunts, & raw documentation of his family's harrowing experience during the Pacific Palisades wildfire. In this episode, Spencer gets candid about the LA fires, exposes the insurance denials, the brutal rebuilding costs many families now face, opens up about his personal fight for justice, shares his plans to fight corruption & become LA's mayor, & dives into his new book, The Guy You Love To Hate.    To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Spencer Pratt click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   To purchase Spencer's new book visit https://bit.ly/4kdh8A7. To help support Heidi & Spencer visit https://bit.ly/3ZblCgZ.    This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential Your skincare routine, reimagined. Shop The Skinny Confidential Face Towels today at https://shopskinnyconfidential.com/products/face-towels.   This episode is sponsored by FRE Nicotine Try FRE Nicotine Pouches today at http://FREpouch.com.   This episode is sponsored by Squarespace Head to https://www.squarespace.com/skinny to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code skinny   This episode is sponsored by Kion Visit http://getkion.com/skinny for 20% off.    This episode is sponsored by Caraway Visit Carawayhome.com/SKINNYPOD10 or use code SKINNYPOD10 at checkout to take an additional 10% off your next purchase.   This episode is sponsored by Ritual Save 25% on your first month at http://Ritual.com/SKINNY.   This episode is sponsored by HERS It's time you get the support that actually reflects your needs. Start your free intake at http://ForHers.com.   This episode is sponsored by WOO More Play Visit https://woomoreplay.com to learn more about WOO More Play and get 20% off site wide. Produced by Dear Media

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Hello everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her show. Today we have our friend Spencer Pratt on the podcast. is a fan favorite for many reasons. Spencer Pratt is reality TV's original villain and an icon of millennial fame culture, best known for the Hills. He continues to evolve as a media personality

appearing on Celebrity Big Brother, The Hills, new beginnings, and going viral on TikTok for his Crystal Hall's hummingbird obsessions, absurd burrito stunts, and raw documentation of his family's hiring experience during the Pacific Palisades Wildfire. This brings him to the episode today because he has been extremely outspoken about some of the pitfalls that

are going on in L.A., some of his concerns around the leadership in the city, and what really happened to him when his family lost their house in the fires that devastated California. He also is now running for the mayor of L.A., which he talks about, and has a new book coming out called The Guy You Love to Hate. Lauren and I really enjoyed the book. In any case, we always enjoy talking to Spencer. He's one of those guys. You could sit back, put a piece of hay in your tooth, and just really let him go. Never short for words. Always up to something. Always exciting. With that, Spencer Pratt, welcome the Skinny Confidential, him and her show.

This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. Everyone's aware of the fires and the horrific mess of critical here in LA and like, but like from your perspective, walk us through what happened and where you're at. Obviously, like, we know the fire happened, but to you personally, like your house, this, the insurance, like what's what's going, like when you say you can't rebuild your house, like why? So before the fires, all the insurance companies were well aware that the state of California had created such a dangerous condition for the Pacific Palaces by letting 50 years of dead brush

or fuel is what the like firefighters will go surround the palaces all the way up to the backyards of people's houses so they sent an email out you know farmer state farm everyone to almost every one of the palaces just the email it was like due to GPS of extreme fire hazard we're no longer covering you there are senior citizens they were paying insurance for like 40, 50 years that got dropped January 1st. They didn't re-up because it's holidays and they're old people, not moving that fast, that then January 7th lost everything and had zero insurance. Because the insurance companies knew in advance that it was highly risked and that it was a matter

of time before this was a tender box. Anyone with a brain. You know, also they say it's unprecedented. There was a fire in Palestine in 2019, 2021. The Malibu fire just happened. You know, they say that. when it's not unprecedented. It's, it's every, you know. So the other thing is everybody like myself who were like, oh my God, I got to get on some new insurance, what covers us? We all got stuck

with California Fair Plan, which my problem is I assumed it was, you know, the lesson as an adult is also it's all you had. So it is what it is. You take what you do. But I was way too confident because I cut everything I was supposed to to get California Fair Plan around the yard and get on that. So California Fair Plan maxes out at $3 million. So even if your house, it's a $9 million house, just, you know, people will be like these people are rich. My parents probably bought their house for $500,000 and just property values over time, it was probably worth $10 million. Is this the house you grew up in as a kid? Yes.

So I want the audience to know this because you said this on Juicy Scoop. Your parents had all your stuff in your room, your collectible, everything like organized really sweet. I think that's an important part. It's like a time capsule. Everything I've ever owned was just you could walk into my room and it was exactly like when I went off to college. And so everything I had in that life and then my life as an adult, everything burns. So I say it all the time, I don't have anything that wasn't when cloud started. I don't even know what iPhone level that was like maybe iPhone 7.

So my parents didn't get one item out of us. My mom didn't even get her passports. She didn't take a go back because the idea of my parents' house burning at the bottom of the palisades next to the ocean. is impossible to believe. So the California Fair Plan that maxes out at $3 million, on our 2,500 square foot house, we had a million-two policy. Well, here's where it gets interesting.

The city of L.A. now requires for me to build on my exact spot where my house was, I need to put 1.2 to like 1.5 million in casons that were not there. So now they care about how I build, even though in court, they say they have no responsibility if my house burns down. So the same city that's saying, oh, we'll let your house burn down.

That's not our responsibility cares about how my foundation is. So I don't have the money to put a million to in cement down to the bottom before you even start. Before you start the rest. Anything. Before you even lay on top of that. Just that's how much to go down to the bedrock. So that's happening to a lot of people that even had fair plan because we're all on hills and these houses. all were built a long time ago. Also, my house was probably 50 years old. How many earthquakes

did it survive? It survived the big one. So if it's an earthquake thing, and again, you don't care if it, my house gets destroyed. If there was earthquakes, why do you care how I build it? So it's things like that. So that's what I've been really trying to fight, is trying to get executive orders in Washington that I wipe out these rules that now these rebuilds have to be up to these codes that the initial house that burned down didn't have, but they don't want to do that because how much money did they make off that million too? So what do you, what do you think with everything you've learned and uncovered and the things that people have been sending you, which by the way, like I've DM doing, I've sent you a few minutes, like I love what you're doing. What do you,

what do you think the reason for all of this is, why they're behaving this way, why the policy is set this? Like, if you were to fast track 20 years from now, what do you think will happen if they, if these people get their way? I mean, it's not even a conspiracy. Like when at first, happened. Everyone was like, it's Maui. It's a land grab. It's laser beams. I was like, people are nuts. They would never want the palisades to burn down. This is the like, there's so much tax money they get out. And then I find out, oh, wait, no, it's people like my parents who their house is worth $10 million because of property values, but they're paying property taxes from the 1980s. So they actually, the state that's broke, the city that's broke, are going to make so much more money when they

rebuild all these mansions that are, you know, in eight to nine years are going to be worth $12 million with 20, $2032, you know, whatever the math is. So the tax revenue exponentially grows. That, first off, not to mention the amount of like developers that are all part of this system, they come in, you know, I don't want to name names, but I know of developers that are just buying up blocks, buying up already publicly, 40% of the dirt lots, people's houses, are being bought by developers, not families trying to come back in, not other fire victims that are, oh, maybe so that's just money. So let's say they're going to make minimum $30 billion

off of the policies, unlike just a low ball. You know, I bet it's so much more. When that was happening to your house, you said you didn't even think of your parents' house because it was by the ocean where you just focused on figuring out what you were going to do with your own house? So right when the fire starts, Heidi packs up like the kid's diapers and stuff for an overnight to go to my parents' house, she drove down to like that was the safe house, like to be safe. My parents' house was 120 years old and my dad paid for insurance for however may 30 years, whatever he was there for. And then in December, when everyone got dropped, he didn't re-up to California Fair Plan because he said to my mom in December, the whole entire palisades would have to burn for our house to burn. Like it didn't make, which he's not wrong. And nobody, you know, I was too caught up feeding hummingbirds and selling crystals to not see the writing was on on the wall to the point where I was subconsciously, I knew because every day Heidi made me go on a hike with the kids, even though I didn't want to. and I'm hiking these state park trails.

And I was like, I'm like, what is this just dead bushes everywhere? It just dried. And I was always saying like, this is, you know, my head. I just didn't understand that the federal government gives Newsom all this money to actually get rid of all this. And he doesn't. He uses that money. And that's going to be the big investigation that I'm part of with the congressional

investigation to really find where all the money to clear all these. state parks that the feds gave Newsom where it went to because they didn't do it. Here's where I have some understanding. You know, we grew up in San Diego when we're younger. We're not from LA, but we're down there. Remember when there's the fires in Escondio, Escondido and in Del Dios and all that? And the big issue then was the same thing. It's like, why do they never clear the brush? And they also didn't create fire trails or paths for the firefighters to get up into these areas to clean anything out or to fight the fires even if they happen. Right. So we were talking about this because in high school and in college, again, talking about unprecedented. Like this is not just been happening in

it's all of Southern California they've had this issue. And we would see that and we would, I remember we would talk about it and say, why are there not ways for these guys to get up and fight these fires in the first place? It's just a total mess. So that's why everything goes up in flames. I'll tell you why.

Because California has environmentalists, this carb, and the governor actually selects these people. So he can't be like, oh, it's an out, you know. So yes, it's its own entity, but he's involved in who goes and, carb so the idea of carb is they don't want to do prescribed burns on which like florida does two million acres a year you know i think texas does them too so every in the native americans survived in the palisades by doing that like this is the history of california was prescribed

burn but carb doesn't want to do that because they don't want smoke in there do you know what burned in the palisades thousand electric vehicles the person across street from me had a whole entire tesla Do you know what that fire did the environment versus prescribed burns? And they also, which we now in our lawsuit against the state, they care more about the plants than people. They have secret maps that the firefighters aren't even allowed to keep. They're like show them, but you can't. And it's in their own manual. This isn't made up.

This is in their manual. Do not give anyone the secret maps. And the secret maps show all the protected plants in the state park. I never even heard of what milk vetch is. So milk vetch is why 12 people have burned alive in 7,000 structures because they're not allowed to come clean up the milk vetch. So there are all these people fighting for plants. Where are the people fighting for a human beings? Let's go to mountain lions, lizards, snakes, hummingbirds, God knows, you know, freaking everything that burned alive in 25,000 acres, then all the milk vetch is gone.

So all they would have had to do, I've talked to so many experts, okay, like real not though, propaganda experts for $500,000 max. I was also told it could have been $300,000. They could have made a fire break surrounding the palisades. Yes, some milk vets would have been cleared, but it would have given time A for the firefighters to get up there, as they would say dig in and have a chance, and it wouldn't just go right into these houses. and now they're fighting house to house. So that's the biggest thing is this idea,

these state park people. And then we go back to where it actually started. So people think the fires start on January 7th. The Palisades Fire started on January 1st, on New Year's Eve on the site Lockman at Skull Rock. And Newsom and everyone will say it's because of this arsonist. Right now, the arsonist case from that general is falling apart because they now have no evidence.

allegedly that even connects this guy to being up on the trail. They have like 34 witnesses that said they saw fireworks up there on New Year's Eve. So the idea of the arsonist started is even going to crumble. But here's where it gets crazy. That one, that was eight acres. Okay. They go up there, the firefighters, and they put it out. But that night when the firefighters get there, there's a state park representative telling them with the secret maps where they can't put dozers to come, you know, dozers, like a bulldozer with like a special thing on front that clears all this dead brush versus guys with chainsaws picking things up. And so they say you can't have dozers up there. And this is a true thing because LADWP, when they put in a power line, you can Google this,

the state of California, and they cleared some brush, some milk vetch. They find the city $1.9 million for killing those state sued LADWP for like fix. of power. So this is a known thing that they will sue the fire department. They'll sue the city. They'll sue if you come mess with their vets. So here's where it gets crazy. After they put it out, it's obviously still smoldering. These firefighters that have reached out to me that now can't talk because of this new law firm shutting them up in their depositions, but did come to me with these stories told the fire chief, the battalion chief, hey, we can't leave this. It's still smoldering and he said pull the hose, which the hoses they brought up there. The last fire in the

policies, they left the hoses there for 18 months. They pulled the hoses within two days. We have drone footage on January 2nd of the whole hill just smoking. There's 911 calls of people saying, hey, the hill's smoking. The state park in their manual. It's their legal responsibility to close the state park, make sure there's no dangerous condition for people in the park or in the community need next to it. They didn't do that. Their other manual rule says they need a monitor if there was an incident. Did they monitor? We now know the state park lady in her deposition said, oh yeah, I saw it still smoldering. And I took a photo. And they, and then our lawyer said, what did you do? She's like, nothing. I'm not a firefighter. Can you imagine you see like, you're just walking,

you see somebody smoldering. You take a photo and just go about your date. Even if that's not your job, you're still going to let somebody know. You let somebody know. You let somebody know. So they Here's where it gets even crazier There's an extreme wind event coming Tweeting about it The states, the city, everyone's talking about We flew in that day by the way

And we were and we got rerouted and I didn't know It was funny enough we were sitting here interviewing Tony Robbins of all people Looking out the window being like what the fuck's going on over there It was all the winds were nuts that day So they knew three days, four days that this was coming And they're tweeting about it So Karen Bass knows this, the mayor

She flies to Ghana to talk about opening the Ghana consulate in LA, which don't get me started on that. It's almost like a reality show. You can't make this up. Also, like, what's the point of having ambassadors? I always thought ambassadors do, like, you go get the crack fentanyl people off the streets.

You don't go to Ghana, okay? We have Ghana here, okay? You don't need to go there. So she's in Ghana. They know it's coming. She denies that she knew that nobody told her. First off, the fact, that you're saying nobody told you like you better get your own phone then you know we know she

has her own phone because all her messages she deleted so so maybe on those texts she was like oh i'm still going to gone i don't care about the extreme wind so they know there's this extreme wind they know there was a fire in the fire hazard area where all the insurance companies just drop people it's not like hmm like gavin usum's like we bro redeployed all these assets not one fire fighter, fire engine, anything was pre-deployed to the palaces leading up to that wind event knowing January 1st, January 2nd, there was a fire to the point. It's still smoking on the side of the hell. What are these firefighters saying to you privately? Like, what is the general sentiment from these guys? Because I imagine like they just feel so discouraged and upset about a lot of

this because their hands are tied to a lot of cases. You know, it was so hard for me to, you know, so deep in it to not be like they're cowards come out to the truth but then you you go to the human part you're like they have families they risk retaliation they got to see chief crowley said that she told the mayor that there was the wind they boom fired she gets right so they're doing that to the chief so you have they're watching this cover up with this after action report where another chief says take my name off of that after action report because the mayor's office cooked it up and changed all his thing. So they're seeing the higher level what they're up against. So, you know, obviously I've had, you know, at least one tell me it weighs on his soul that he didn't do more

that day. But the way the fire, it's a military command structure. He did his job, even though you could argue like I do in my head, well, you should have just called 911, you know, like, and be like, hello, you know, is my cheat, you know, like, I play all these things in my head. But is anybody is he going to risk his job and who knows what's going to but that's my takeaway if you really are seeing i also do this in my head if these firefighters if that was their family's house to the right of this hill what's it how does this situation go different do they do they walk away to they pull hoses or do they make a stand because it's their family on down the hill i don't know well you know all the things i do in my head but the other thing that i think was challenging for the

Palisades specifically at a national level is it was a weird thing to watch this and watch some of the reactions in the country where there was like very little sympathy for a lot of people that don't live here. They're like, oh, it's a bunch of rich people that just lost everything too bad for them, California, especially with the politically charged environment, like too bad, blue state. Like there was even people like, oh, kind of deserved that this happened. Like I saw a lot of that. And again, like I am no fan of some of the policies in California. Hence, like, people know I live in Texas. But I felt that was unfair because, again, as somebody who's familiar with this place, it's not just rich people. It's not just wealthy people. There's generational families that have been here for a very long time to your point. Elderly people. Children that got uprooted from schools. It's a very traumatic and traumatizing event that happened to people. But the headline was rich, famous people in Palisades. And it's like, oh, whatever. They got another house or they can just pay for it. Did you feel that way? Oh, I fight that every day.

And what people don't get is like there was two mobile home parks on right there on PCH. They're gone. Those people cannot come back because there's a loophole, even if they wanted to, after like a fire or whatever, the owner of that land doesn't even, they're not even, they don't have any rights to rebuild. So the argument of like, oh, whatever, the ritual, people aren't even fighting for the affordable housing that was there. They can't even come back. So, I mean, there was condos. There was apartments. We know someone that had a store there for like 40 years.

It was he's an little old man, 85 years old. He had a little health food store and it burned down and he had to go to a homeless shelter. Like they found him in a shelter. There's so many different stories like that. But even if my thing is even let's just say it was all rich people, I don't, I don't understand the energy of saying, oh, like good. It's good. It was a weird moment. It was like a, it was not a moment.

It's still. I fight this daily. Fair. Like this is. It's just, I think. it's a sad state of where we've reached as a country again like a politically charge like it was like this thing it was like almost like that's what you get type of narrative and I didn't I thought it was like a little bit shameful well I fight it all the time because always people say well that's what

you voted for and I go back to I don't care what your political party is nobody votes for people to burn alive nobody votes to for criminal negligence where you lose your house you know that they didn't vote for that. So that's actually not true. You can say, well, that's, you know, then they go, they go off and that. Well, they go, well, you did vote for DEI. So then that becomes a piece of it, because there are people involved now and all across the board that, and I've talked to the head of the fire union, Freddie Escobar, and he's like, yes, a lot of people got jobs that shouldn't. So that's where, in a sense, if you vote for these people and then they put the wrong people and that's, It's even as a, you know, that's where I'm like, oh, okay, kind of got me on that.

But nobody deserves. Nobody, they thought they were being inclusive when they were voting. Like, oh, China, but the best people, no matter if you're lesbian, trans, black, Mexican, white, the best people need to be running emergency services, running your water and power. So it doesn't matter about just trying to include. We just need, that was what Freddie Esmer, you just need who's the best. Maybe you can also explain to the audience. I've heard you talk about it before what it was like to have your house burned down in your parents' house.

Like from a, from, you had to watch that. That is so traumatizing for your children, for your wife, for your parents. I mean, it's horrible. The positive of thinking my dad was burning alive is that like as I was watching my security cameras and watching my house burn live, I couldn't reach my dad who I know was at his house. surrounding flames and he wasn't picking up. And the last I talked to him, he's like, I'm going to fight this. I'm like, dad, leave. And he's like, no, just jump in the pool.

When the fire comes around, I was like, oh, my God, he's already, you know, he's smoke inhalation. He's like loopy sounded. You know, he had already, I think, had a nervous breakdown leaving my house, seeing what it was going to going down to his. So as everything was happened, it was such a blessing that I was so concerned about him dying that, like, brought everything into, like, who, cares about anything but him.

So I, until I finally talked to him hours later when he got to where his phone was, he could put it in, then I like could process like, oh, we lost everything. So that was at the peak time, it was a good thing because it was like, okay, everyone's alive at least. But no,

it's, and that's why people think, you know, oh, how does, why does Spencer do so day? Because they all got away with this and they're going to keep getting away with it and they keep lying. So I just channel that feeling you're asking about every day to get justice because if somebody doesn't get these people, the least we can do is get them to lose their jobs. And that's why I'm like, I have to be mayor. I can fire all these people. One thing that I've noticed about you, if you really examine like the threat of your life is you've always wanted justice. It just in different areas. Even like with,

when you go back to your reality days, like, I feel like you always were a truth teller. And you're doing almost the same thing that you were doing in an obviously completely different way, but you're still telling truth. Do you feel like that's what you're put to do with this fire is tell the truth of what's actually happening under the hood? The best part about having to spend two weeks doing the audiobook, I actually like had to really, it's one thing like working on a book and writing a book. But when you have to then, when it's done, like, go through and, like, almost like monologue it in your head and sometimes do it over and over. And you really internalize your existence, how you saw it. And then, like, you see everything I went through, like, designed and prepared me for this battle that I have now. And I'm like, oh, they're so fucked.

You know, like, they are. No, because they don't even know. If you're kind of getting Aaron Brockovich. I'm like, you don't even know. You're built for them. And they, and they're naive. to not know because like when they threw out like this is on the mayor's office when I announced she her her campaign person was like this is the same person that faked his divorce for ratings I say

oh you should write read my book because I actually fake my divorce after the show to try to help improve my wife's image not to be connected with me some big details that you need to understand who I actually am so they need to do their homework and they're going to really realize this isn't like a game for me well people I think people that are not so familiar with you. And again, like, we've known about you and your curriculum. I don't think people realize how calculated you are and how thoughtful you are. And in your background, correct me wrong, do you have a, do you have a degree in political science or what is your degree in? In political science. Yeah, from USC. Correct. And Karen Bass bought hers. There's not. So they go,

what's your qualifications? I'm like, well, I didn't buy my degree. It's not fake. You know, it did take me 10 years, but it's still real. You didn't fall off the back of some melon truck and, like, land on a reality show with it. Like, I think the people don't realize that you produce a lot of stuff, you architected a lot of stuff, you thought, like, there's, there's, you're a lot more thoughtful than people, I think, think that don't, that are self-produced. That aren't familiar with you. The book is, that's the best part of the book, because like, Brody's been out there when he's, when he's on my team, which has been the last, like, good amount of years, he'll go out there and be the witness to, like, say the strategy from day

one, everything was planned. And when you read the book and you really see there was not, you know, obviously, it goes off the rocker because one, Once you're going against Jersey Shore and you're trying to just do anything for ratings bonuses, it's like it looks less strategic. And also when the edit also is not on your team, it doesn't look like a plan. But there's a lot of, once you read the book, there's so much that I, you know, they bought me off. And, you know, I did things that, okay, I'll do that for that check. And I'll say I did that for that check. And so the book will give anybody context to the whole existence of Spencer, which is going to be scared.

To get on the hills, didn't you tell Brody, correct me if I'm wrong, like we have to go into the club and date these girls to get on the show. Is that right? Oh, it was way harder than that. You know, but yes, there was a lot more steps to get, he was also dating Nicole Richie at that time. So we had to remove Nicole Richie from the picture to make him a very big. to potentially date LC. Did he know you were doing that? Or did you just?

100% yes. But you had to. And so did Nicole. But you also, you were a producer before that show on another reality show. So your brain goes to like these are the things that need to happen in order to put me in a position to do this. Yeah, you're like 10 steps ahead, but you got to do the steps. And, you know, and they were all done. I checked all the boxes.

How did you decide what moment to run for mayor? Initially, you know, that's why I made the governor shirts. I was thinking more governor because I've been fighting the state so much. Okay. And I was thinking, you know, I'm going to do governor because there's such a bigger thing I can change for the state. And then I started like really looking into that process and how much money it takes to run for governor. And I was like, you know what? I need to change L.A. before I go after the state.

And I actually. There he is with his steps. So, no, I mean, 100% like when I'm done with LA, like, because like I keep saying, this is the launch path. Yeah. Are we, we're going to see as president? Second reality started office is president. All right now is care about is California.

Okay. You know, so here's why, because I don't want to have to move to Texas. And when if I do have to move to Texas, I want to be on my porch until my grandkids, I fought for my city and my state till like nothing more I can do. And I can feel good on my heart that all these people that lost everything, that people have burned alive. I fought to the end for them, but it's the systems too. It's unbreakable. And if I can't do it, then truly, I swear to God, nobody can because everybody else has a house. Everybody else has a closet. I have nothing. I am fighting to get legit changed because I know what

the other side. So people troll me right now and they're like, if you're going to run for mayor, you need to dress. I'm like, I had an incredible closet. Let me tell you, it all burned. Do you know how much it hurts, rebuying clothes, rebuying everything, knowing that tax sales, tax money goes to Karen Bass to launder to fentanyl addicts. You know, like, it's hard. That's why I wear shirts. And they say, Heidi, because I don't have to pay full price. I can get them at cost. So, again, when I'm mayor, you know, I'll go to Macy's or North Swimming and buy some suits at the sales record. I want to know the moment you decided you're running for mayor. Once I saw that Karen Bass was running again, like first she should have resigned on January 7th, January 8th.

And even before the fires, when she clearly can, the city is just a disaster. And as it was getting closer to the anniversary, and I just felt like there's no hope for anybody, we're seeing the level of coverups, just continue these law firms that they're bringing in to just make sure the victims get nothing. I was like, oh, no, I need to fight this any way I can. And I was just like, the only way I can actually do anything is to get rid of these people. And so I was like done. So maybe, I don't know, just December.

Who are you hoping would step up? Because I saw in one of your speeches you said you were waiting for somebody to step up, but they didn't. Anyone. Anyone. You know, there's a lot of people that have a lot more money, a lot more experience and whatever that nobody wants to play in the gutter. You know, because you risk a lot. I have nothing to lose. So I can go full sewer system with these people.

And I don't think most people, and that's what it takes to beat them, you can't do that without risking, you know, people all day long are like, are you scared? I'm not scared. These people are scared of going against that system. You also seem like you have a really good memory for all the little things that have happened. And you have a very, it's. I have a lot of free time, thankfully. So, you know, I live this. What does Heidi think of you running for mayor? She's very, you know, connected to gun. So she's like, you know, obviously if I become mayor, it was clearly God's plan. And if I don't become merit, it's clearly God's plan. So she's totally backs that if it happens, it was clearly destiny. And I was all meant to be. And if it doesn't, there's going to be something, another plan. But right now it feels real clear because the more I look to like trying to have faith and connect to God,

me like, why did you let this happen? I'm like, oh, oh, you wanted a warrior to go against these people. I will do that. Quick break to talk about free nicotine. We get asked all the time about nicotine products. It's obviously been a hot topic on the podcast circuit. A lot of people talking about it. And here's the thing.

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yeah so you know there's if you want to share but I would I would say like that would make me sleep pretty well and I know you're running around with some of those people I was watching You're like, are you concerned your safety? And then I saw him in the back and I go, well, he's probably concerned about maybe not as concerned with that kind of around. So the other thing that I have new to my life is I wanted to get like an elite police protection dog. And so I reached out to this company and I looked into it. I was like, oh my God, I can't afford this, you know. And so I didn't.

And then like the way the world worked after our house renounced, I get a call from, you know, somebody. And they're like, the world champ police dog is too much for the elderly. wealthy owners that took this dog. He beat 500 police dogs in Europe. So I have Kobe Bryant of police dogs. They go, if you want him, you could go pick him up right now. I drove straight there, picked him up. So I have the most elite police dog right now. What do you have to do to manage that dog? He speaks full, I can't say my language. He's like he's like a robot. But do you have to worry about him around the kids or no? Oh, no. He sleeps next to Gunner's bed. So try it. You know, Wait, are these dogs that gnarly?

I don't know about the dog thing. If you don't, if your neck, like, because we had two multi-pooos and two Pomeranians, they went to heaven. When you're done with the little dogs and they go to heaven, talk to me, this will change your life. When I'm in the gas, when I'm at the gas station now, when I'm at the gas station, I just cracked the window as I'm getting gas. And the dog is so smart, I swear to God, it's checking the whole station.

If somebody starts coming near me, I'm just, I'm ready that I'm about going to just open the door. like it'd be your worst nightmare. Wait, I don't know about this kind of dog. I mean, I know about police dogs. They like scan the premises? This dog is smarter than anything you could be. It's scary. Why don't we have one of these dogs?

These dogs are 120,000 dogs go to war. Oh, this is, this dog should be with deltivores or CL Team 6. How does your dog, this is a stupid question, but I just wonder, how does the dog know that when you picked him up that you guys are not threatening and then your kids aren't threatening? Oh, well, these dogs are. Because these are like the elite dogs. They're how they,

in their, the dog's like four and a half years old. It's a fully trained. So like they, in Europe, it was around little kids. They do every, they build it up in stages.

So the dog's better with the kids than with anybody. So, a party trained, ready to go. It goes to the bathroom on command. You say, take a break. Stop.

So, I don't believe this. Have you not, should that? Have you shown this on Instagram? I had to archive a lot of the dog content for a situation that, you know. I came, if I was coming, if I was entering your, it'll probably be public eventually.

Your world and I was like, and the dog was with you, do you have to do a protocol to like introduce the dog to the person to make sure that they, or is it, or he just knows. He knows aura. Like, for instance, I was at the coffee shop, you know, so many people, he's scanning everything when I first got him and my close friend owns the coffee shop and we're talking to, and then he, we're talking about 20 minutes. And then he imitates a story of somebody threatening him and he goes, something like, I'm of you or whatever and the dog

just on him like and he's a whoa whoa you're talking like the dog sense the like change in tone so quick you didn't do anything because I didn't give the command but if you give a command if I came with like Spencer I'm gonna get and you gave the command that dog's gonna take me out game over I would like one of those dogs I didn't know this kind of dog

existed but I but it's I imagine it's also a pretty big responsibility to own one of these dogs you gotta like really like spend time with it yeah no I've been how it's the best thing I ever had in my life why didn't you bring, oh, you left the dog because you want to leave it. I got it. I'm good.

If you could get another dog and bring it with you. You only have one. You only have one. I almost just got a, because this dog had a puppy, you know, like, in the, like, they were like, do you want? And I tried it. And I was like, we're good. You're good.

You're good. It's like having a. So you feel good knowing that that dog's with the kids. You're here. You don't have to, you don't have to think about. What's more gnarly? A bodyguard or this dog? A dog.

Because here's the thing. This is why these, this is what they'll tell you. And I've learned. crazy people, you pull a gun out of a crazy person, they'll go, shoot me. So you have to really be ready to kill somebody in a situation. Now, maybe you didn't need to kill that person, but this person could kill you. And now you're in this weird gray area of self-defense. Somebody starts coming at you with these dogs.

You see my, like, for instance, I'll give you a great story. We had the dog. Heidi was recording a song over in on Butler and Santa Monica Boulevard. Biggest, scariest dude. No shirt starts coming. at us saying, you know, I don't know if what he was on. This is like crazy guy. Crazy guy. Last person I'm trying to wrestle, stab, shoot, you know, I don't want anything to do with his first. He doesn't know that I got the dog in the car. So he's coming through

the middle street, coming right at hiding. I just opened the door, take the dog. He just sees the dog. The dog gets in his thing, you know, bolts the other side of the street. Wait, are dogs this scary? What can you? Can the dog kill? Yeah. I mean. They can. I mean. They can. I It bites your neck. I did not know about this kind of dog. Instinctually, we know as humans, you don't want to fuck with, like, big, scary animals. You know, like, we're not equipped, like, you're not equipped to, like, handle that kind of thing. I don't want to fuck with a dog.

I would rather fuck with a person than a big scary dog. I didn't know. 100%. Okay. A person you kind of know, like, oh, I've wrestled before. I know I could fight a dog. I just think, my whole childhood has been, like, warm, fuzzy dogs. It's a warm, fuzzy dog, but he's a train.

He doesn't think, he thinks it's a game. He's been trained so much. Like, when I take him to his, like, like, when I take him to his, like training, whether we do like the attacks on the like the guy, right? It's his favorite thing to do in the world like we're going to Disneyland, tail wagging. So because he's his, it's like playing football or bad. He's a professional athlete. Get the bad guy.

What's the dog's name? Yoki. Yoki. Do not fuck. Oh no. So that's the other thing. God is with signs and symbols. I'm always like connected to the multiverse.

Like this, I should have never had this dog. I can't afford this dog. you don't there's only one world champion a year this is the 2023 world champion everybody wants that dog from europe and it ended up with my family that's the sign you know oh when you decided to write your second book i've read your first one when you decided to write the second one and you decided to just lay it on the table what was the pushback that you got from behind the scenes i didn't really i don't talk behind the scenes anybody so i don't think i didn't check in with anybody What about like lawyers when you write at the publisher?

There's no pushback. No, no, lawyers. I spent a lot of time every day with lawyers now suing L.A. and the state. So and L.A.DW. So I might as well be, I might as well have a law degree. Whatever Kim K has, I have that too now. So we did our best to anything a lawyer would not want in the book to legally make sure they could be in the book. So you just got, I feel like it's.

It's right there, like, because how I read. Stuff that you legally usually couldn't get away with. I feel like we legally got it in there. Can you give us a juicy nugget from the book or maybe give us some, like, what we're going to learn in this book? Because you're not holding back. I can tell. You know, I think the, not nuggets or like gotcha moments or got.

I think the coolest part about the book is the goal was to like really describe an era of fame and this new modern world of attention fame that I aspire. to be that Parisilton started, I would say. And then I took it. You just talked to her yesterday. Funny enough, we were just talking all about this. So that world, from my perspective, obviously she has her own. She was set up differently. I had to come from a very different route to build what now so many influencers, content creators. So I think the coolest part about the book is like the roadmap to where we are now. And I truly believe that, you know, at USC film school, you could teach this book or a chapter

throughout of it. So less of the, you know, obviously there's so much juice or whatever. Like Us Weekly's already putting these quotes up that I didn't think were anything about people I thought was, you know, tameish. And people are, every sentence. People are like texting me like, well, I get you said this. I felt like that was chill. So they're just pulling all the, I mean, here's the thing that I think our generation understands. For whatever reason, you and Heidi specifically, and maybe people forget this era, you guys were on every fucking tabloid and magazine every week. Like you could not escape Spidey.

Like it was everywhere. And I think that like we were talking again like to perish yesterday, that level of attention and fame doesn't exist anymore. And we talk to people on this show all the time. And I always say like that era is over. Right. And I don't think it's ever going to come back. What's the new? What's the new era to you?

Like what do you think is about to happen with social and the landscape? I mean, God, I hope we get a new era. right now, it's not looking hot. Back to something I think is interesting about the book. And the Nelk boys were so lovely how they tweeted about me. And I found it so ironic because in my book,

I told everyone in summer school, I called me Kuea and Malibu, the goal was to get on the cover of us weekly in life. Because at that time, when I was 16, only person that's on there is Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, just goats, legends. So that was, that's the Stanley Cup or whatever. Achievement. So that is a clear through line in my book. And here the Nelk boys are tweeting, calling me a

washed up reality star. That same day, I got my first full cover by myself with no Heidi, no drama, Spencer Brown on the cover of Us Weekly. So in their modern world of fame as YouTubers, I'm washed up. in my OG what fame is to me and what I, my heritage, I have my peak day of fame. Interesting perspective. The same day they think I'm washed up. I'm like, to me, I just, I think it might. My jersey just went on the wall. It's going to be a New York Times bestseller.

I, you know, I think it will be a bestseller once I save Los Angeles because then they're going to look back and be like, how did he do this? So I think it's going to even, you know, because the publisher is so concerned that right now, what I'm doing is like preempting the book. But I actually think what I'm about to do is going to make the book so much more interesting. And it all connects to this journey. So it's like this hard thing because they want, which I understand, they're my partners. They want book, book, book.

I'm like, the book is my life. This is my life. It all is to where we are now. Yeah. What's interesting is like, and I've sent you a couple of DMs and personal messages, just admiring what you've been doing. But I think what's interesting about what you're up to now is I think it's a culmination of your experiences and lives lived

that have put you in this position uniquely now. And I think we've talked over the years. You've looked at different things, different projects. I feel like you've really found your footing. And as you found it, I've watched the attention and engagement really ramp up around you again. Do you feel that way? I just feel like you're in your lane. Like, I feel like, you're in your flow.

I don't think, like, I don't think not anyone could just step into doing what you're doing now. Like, all of the experiences that you've had and all of the things that have happened to you put you in this lane to do this uniquely. Well, to go back to my preacher wife, she referenced a bunch of people in the Bible. I don't know that God always picks, like, the most opposite people to do, like, his plan. So people will say that like I'm not like I don't have the background for this. Like, well, God will give me what I need to do. And so clearly what they'd understand if they read my book, I do have, I have 20 years of preparing. For now politics, they're trying to do what I did in 2006.

Well, the smear campaigns are going to work on your phone. All the clickbait headlines and the tweets and the stunts. They read your first book. Yeah, they read how to be famous. So, but there's a whole thing that that was PG-13 version. They don't know how to really be famous. But a lot of people can't, especially in politics, like you see these people crumble. They can't handle the heat in the kitchen when it gets ramped up and scrutiny gets put on.

And I feel like what can people really do or say about you that hasn't been done or said throughout your entire career? You know what I mean? Like what kind of smear campaign exists that hasn't been rolled over and investigated 18? There's no, there's no like, let's find the extra dirt on Spanish. Like, you've been out there. So here's the ironic thing about the mayor. saying that, oh, he's using this book as, if I was running for mayor, like, if I was an actual, like, candidate the way they think of it, my book would be the last thing I would launch before my campaign.

This book was like, I'm putting everything in this to have sales before any of this happened. And it wasn't anyone that reads it is going to be like, oh, my God. You know, it doesn't, I'm not, I looked at my book as if I was trying to like take Spencer Pratt down. You know, as somebody, you know, some books, people write about people. Like, you almost think I wrote my book about me. Like, it's not, like, I'm, I don't feel like I'm the good guy in my book. It's not a hero story. It's a tragic, dark tale of fame that you wouldn't write this book to, like, be like,

I'm running for office now. It's not a marketing. I think people, though, in politics right now are looking for authenticity, because that's what's been missing from it. They want to know who we can trust. And you're incredibly refreshing and authentic. And I feel like you're at this moment in time where people are looking for someone like you. I also think people in this country specifically now are tired of like the polish, but but not the real like niceness behind the polish. Like listen, I'm no fan of Newsom that's known. And it's like if you look at a very polished dialed in, but like he looks like

that guy. But then you see a lot of the things that they've done. And even like, you know, my last thing, we don't have to bring up the French laundry thing, but that was like, that was absurd at the time, like, especially with, as you were like changing people's lives and, and how they got to live them doing that. It's like, people are done with the two-face. Like, you look real good. You say the right things, but then you do the opposite. You're like perfect right now. I would rather have a very crass t-shirt, not just, but like someone that's going to do what they say. They're going to do and mean what they say. So that's the other thing. Like I had a friend yesterday called me. This is a close friend I grew up with. And he was, you know, he's always

he backs me. He's like, I talk to another person. We got the best plan for you, how you can be like the Mondami of LA. I'm like, what? I just, you know, I listen to everyone. And, you know, and he goes, you just got to tell everybody that the bus tickets are going to be free. That's what he did. It's not even true. And then they don't have the money. I'm like, that's exactly the opposite of what I'm doing. Everyone just tells everybody to vote. I'm literally going to tell people exactly what I can do as mayor. I'm going to find out and all the things you can do is and here are all the things I can't do. So I'm not going to sit here and be like,

we're going to do this. What I know I can do is go arrest people selling fentanyl to homeless people. I know I can enforce clearing streets. I know I can stop all the NGO money laundering with the homeless industrial complex and stop all these. But here's my biggest strength that they think is a weakness. I don't have 40 years of political favors and relationships and all these things that look at the city.

You don't know anybody anything in this world. Whatever Karen Bass is doing, I don't want her qualifications. I want the opposite in which I have. I have nothing of that. And you don't go to Ghana. I will never, I'm never leaving LA. So especially when I'm mayor, you know, the farthest I'll go is obviously Santa Barbara to go to, you know, Rosa Miramar and I have a skinny margarita if I'm still allowed when this is all over.

That is why I think I will win because people also are like, you know, people are very into like rigged votes. voter idea, all this stuff, I truly believe there's like 3.9 million registered voters in LA. I think only 600,000 of them voted for Karen Bouse to win. If my message about what everybody wants to pace taxes in L.A. that things are unaffordable to then live in a piece of S-H-I-T everywhere, these people will show up and they'll vote. So I don't care if it is rigged and you've got all these cooked ballots. So I think there's going to be a million extra people that want L.A. I have hardcore Hollywood liberal Democrat people I'm not going to name coming in the big time game. Do you need help writing scripts?

Do you need speeches like heavy hitters that they want L.A. back. They want to live here. They know I, they're not, you know, the media tries to put me in a box because I like guns or whatever. You know, certain things that other people don't like. My sister, my older sister is the most hardcore liberal ever. I talk to her all day long. I don't do the, I want the same, a lot of the same stuff as everybody else. I'm in the, I guess somebody called me a populous.

I don't know if that's what I am. Sounds like I am. I'm very popular. So, you know, that's where they're going to try to get me with all these things. And, you know, the biggest thing Karen Bass does is she sits there and yells about ice. And this, I can promise you if Karen Bass is the mayor for three more years, for sure, more ice raids will happen under Karen Bass than maybe any. other state and she'll keep making posts and yelling about it but if you really don't want ice in LA then you'd vote for Spencer because I can go make a deal with the federal government and the

president and say look you stop ice in LA my buddy Shrek and I and SWAT and the sheriff's department with the new sheriff Alex Minow we will give you more felons rapists drug dealers child traffickers murderers than any state any city with using ice I will go lead the task force and it worked with the mayor of san francisco he made a deal with the federal government and they don't have what karen bass has so you can get caught up in the performative yelling about things or you figure out what you got to work with and make a deal and i can do that so that's all she has is to yell about that i will go fix it what is your life look like right now in santa barbara running for mayor and promoting your book are you waking up and going straight to social are you being a dad is it all the

What does it look like? I think I've been on one post to promote the book. That's the problem. You know, like, I'm supposed to take two weeks off of this. Ideally, the publisher would like. And I'm like, how about I just mix them together? And the people want to buy the book. And, you know, the message is the same message.

This is me. If you wanted to vote for me, you should definitely read my book. So it works, you know, as, but my life is no promo, unfortunately. I mean, no shade to your publisher, but like what you're doing right now. now and the attention you're getting in the ways you know like people are going to people what people forget audiences and customers and consumers are smart enough to be like oh you're doing this and that and I'm going to go now because you're doing this I'm going to go for that they're not going to be like oh he's mayor so I can't read the book like they're going to connect the dots I need to read

the fucking book now right you're getting attention regardless you know I what I'm what I'm doing today I'll tell you so I already did you did you wake up have your espresso do you have your I went to Lucky Lama. I got an asai bowl, even though it's too much sugar and I'm trying to, you know, twice in my life, I had depression with emotional eating. And you'll read in my book, after the hills was canceled, I became a pie attic, fudge brownie, chocolate brownie, walnut. So I gained like at least 30 pounds then. And then after the house burned down, I became a skinny margarita, Mexican food attic and gained at least 35 pounds. So I am now trying to manage.

So when you get upset, it's the eating that provides the comfort or the drinking or whatever. Yeah, the food. How did you lose weight? Working out GLP 1. No, no, the treadmill. I got Woodway, give me a good, nice treadmill. Did you stop with the food? No, no, I'm just trying to do more miles.

I'm trying to out eat my miles. You told me the best Mexican food. You told me it's the place in L.A. Well, Don Antonio's is going to be where my campaign kickoff is on February 4th. Hopefully. I'm going to, this was this morning. I went to Malvo. and I did my video about

so I didn't post this because I rushed it because I didn't want to be late I usually try to do maybe two takes and it didn't hit as hard as it should and that video is I was in Malibu when I stopped because Kamala Harris just bought a house in the Palisades, Malibu, burn area

her defenders will say it's not part of the burn area go drive on PCH it is a literal apocalypse trying I do it every day. You drive 23 miles per hour in one lane. So let me tell you, she just got an $8 million house. That house before the fire was 10 million. So we have Kamala Harris coming in. She didn't do anything for fire victims for a whole year, except for go get a great deal on some fire victim property. So that's like, that was my video this morning. my next video when I leave here, I'm going to the Palisades Elementary School because all the

parents have informed me that the state has actually gone back on their word and taken funding from the rebuild and teachers are not going to be able to have their jobs coming back. So that's my, so I'm going to stop at the palace. I'm going to do my video about. It's like, but how much? And then my other video I got to do, I got to go do this video in front of the burnt out Starbucks in Palestine. saves us with my background. I don't think like I'm like again like grew up out here but don't

LA was not home family still in San Diego all that but like I I don't think I listen my job is attention in media right like that's the world I'm in I don't think people are seeing the ground swell that's right and I can imagine the people that are reaching out to you and the things they're asking you to say and the things they're asking you to bring attention to like you've you've literally become like a champion for people of the city and they're using you as the mouthpiece because it's effective and I think that That's what people are going to underestimate with your campaign, is that groundswell of these people wanting this out there.

Because a lot of people, to your point, they don't have the courage to get out there and say, this is the thing, especially in this city. And I'm not bashing some of our fellow entertainers, but people are concerned about jobs. They're concerned about reputation. They're concerned about taking sides. They're concerned about saying what they really want to say. I imagine you're seeing a lot of that come through you. Well, I lost this week a $75,000.

campaign for three TikTok posts because they don't want to be connected to anything political. I also got a phone call for a major production company that I was supposed to host and executive produce a major format from Europe that was a hit for a dating show. They're now concerned about the optics. So the celebrities aren't wrong. I did reach out to some of these celebrities that houses burned down. I say, hey, could you just be part of this without being political and just. help bring attention, ghosts. So there's also, there's a balance. You can also come help victims

in a way with, but again, Heidi defends them and says, you can't be in their shoes. So I don't name all that. Paris Hilton stepped up to the plate. She gave, didn't she give a million dollars? You know, I would have to. One thing I've learned being involved with lots of lawyers and researching everything and seeing what everything goes and vetting things, I wouldn't respond to you. say, oh, yes, that's great. Because unless I spoke with the fire victims that receive those funds, unfortunately for celebrities like Paris, there's a lot of scamming NGO nonprofits that maybe they did help.

The intention was right, but the money didn't go to work. That is what happens with a lot of people. And that's what I'm going to clear up in L.A. Because a lot of people want billions of dollars to solve homelessness. But it's increasing homelessness. So what's going wrong here is these homelessness NGOs, their salaries are. a million five million two bonuses the lower end people 500,000 seven or those do you think they want to solve homelessness if I one of the biggest problems and like there's like listen there's this big debate

in this country about raising the taxes on the rich the problem is is like as we've gone through and increased more and more taxes like I don't think there's that these politicians have been able to prove that this money has been put to good use and again speaking as a former California resident I saw tax revenues increase increase increase the longer I lived here and the state in the cities get worse and worse and worse. Like that's just, that's the story. So for me, it's like any rational person is going to say, well, clearly just raising taxes and collecting more money is not solving the issue.

Right. So there's obviously like an underlying. There's a foundational issue that needs to be cleaned out and rethought because if it was just throwing, California has some of the wealthiest people in the world. If it was a matter of just like putting money into it and fixing it, it would have been fixed. So here's my favorite thing. People will fight like Newsom will be like, the federal government's not giving us emergency aid for the fire victims.

And in his letter, everyone can go look at it. You can read the list because it's broken down. He initially asked for $40 billion from the feds for the fire victims. Now I think it's maybe down to $35. Don't quote me exactly on that. When you read the list of where this money they want to go, it's just like fire aid. It's for this grant. It's for this NGO.

It's for $100 million for mental help, blah, blah, blah. if you want a $35 billion for fire victims, Indies will literally have the names and addresses of the people that were underinsured by how much, if they were insured, what California Fair Plan didn't provide to clean their toxic stuff out of their house, the senior citizens that can't move in, the mobile home park that all these people can't go in, put all them back,

give them money. So they put all this number. They want $40 billion, but it's never going to fire victims. This is how scary it is right now this week. The LA Fire Department just funded with their own unions a ballot measure to add to our sales tax money to go directly to the firefighters. The city of L.A. doesn't have the money to fund the fire department. The L.A. Fire Department right now is running a fire department that should be the fire department for 1964.

The fire department, almost 80% of their calls, all the money that they use, guess what it goes to? overdosing, going Narcon fentanyl addict, hitting them with the Narcon in their nose. So first off, you clean up the street, you get all these drug dealers giving the drugs to the drug addicts. You have way less overdoses. So last year, I think 1,300 people overdose in L.A. Karen Bassel brag about removing 1,500 people from the streets, L.A.

When 13 of them, 100 of them went into the ground in the freaking dirt dead. So. Promotes. Yeah. So, but they don't say that in the numbers. They don't say, of the 1400 we removed, 1,300 of them are dead. So we all have some anxiety around pregnancy prep.

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You know, the dog is a lot of work. Okay. You know, I can't. It's not that easy to just bring her over. You know, because like she moves too fast over at me, you know. You're their handler. So you just got to. Okay.

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Well, thank you for asking. First off, continue to stream and download. Streaming does not help. So if you want to help, Heidi, buy music because that's the other funniest part. Oh, I went and downloaded her songs. I still have to also have to buy it. That's the trick. You think you're downloading because you're in Apple Music and you're just adding it to your library.

I did it on Spotify. You gave her 0-0-0-0-0-1 penny. But thank you. All the pennies out of, I'm being clear. Okay, but I have to go buy it. If you really want to say it. want to support. If you can, you purchase music on iTunes or Amazon music or, you know, I got to go on iTunes. You have to literally buy it because that's the craziest part. When I was like

pumping Heidi's music, I was like, we're going to buy a house. You're number one everywhere. You're on the Billboard. It came out publicly. Billboard posted it. All that was $150,000, which again is a miracle, amazing. But I need a million two for pylings or casons. So back to what Heidi's doing. She has the best album coming out in six weeks. A full album. And Heidi Wood was incredible, that album. But what we learned from Heidi Wood was new relationships.

Almost 70% of this album is from all the top writer producers in Sweden. So it's like a real pop masterpiece, like Norway is going to hit. People are going to be like, oh, my God. And then the other part, almost every record, I think, on it was vocally produced by this guy, Sean, who does all Kid LaRoy. He's one of the most famous vocal. So he really was able to get a whole new level out of Heidi. So that's exciting. She's just really trying to survive being a mother of these two savages. They're savages. I don't know if we give them too much meat and they're just like barbarians, but they are,

the three-year-old is convinced he can beat up the eight-year-old and it's almost real. So you have stop combat. We always joke because Heidi's certain movies, four Christmases, and it's like those two kids and four Christmases that, I don't know, people get the reference, but they're like hunching the people. I don't know. It's a lot. So she's really... Are you guys done with kids? Oh my God, forever and ever and ever. That's how much work two boys is. I was fine with one boy. You know, Heidi really wanted the second. I'm glad we did it, but two is a lot. You know, We're not there yet because our oldest son is three and a half, but our youngest is seven months. So I don't think we've experienced, like, two boys and a girl.

I don't think we've got to the point where the boys are nuts yet. Yeah, when do we get to the point? I think you'll be fine. I see any of them with more than two kids. I'm like, good for you. And some people will be like, it's just added to the bill. I'm like, oh, it's an expensive bill. You got.

But so, yeah, she had a great call with a, like, a parenting therapist. Because she's like, I'm being a bad mother. I can't control. And I was listening to this. And I actually felt like she was in a comment. many, she was saying, just talk in one word sentences. Like, if the one child's grabbing the other child's arm, just say arm. And then I watch Heidi when there's like full moral comments.

She's like, arm. And they're just like, wow. I'm like, yeah, lady, it ain't going to work, honey. But it was so. Does anything work? You know, she said she had the best day ever yesterday. So, you know, days change. Have you seen that meme where it's like, hey, kids, I'm just going to be on a call

for business call for a time. Just be quiet. And then the next, it's like a Steven Seagal. We'll be like snapped their arm and throws them through an armor, like the glass strategy. I'm going to, I'm going to, I just joke to Heidi every time I say, I'm going to somewhere. I'm like, I'll be right back. I'm going to Japan. You know, literally.

Like, I always say, and people always like, oh, my God, you have the best marriage. Thank God I've married Heidi because if I didn't marry Heidi and she was like such a good mom, and so patient and it was too Spencer like precise, these poor children. Are you romantic as a husband? you know, lately it's very challenging, you know, because we're, you know, I now get when older people used to always be like, oh, yeah, enjoy your sex life. Now, you know, you have to fight for, for a sex life now. Like, you know, I used to be on box because, oh, the second kid took it. Nobody wants to hear about him in sex lives. But you just have to, like, figure it's,

it's like a real tactical existence now. No, we got to, we got to LA and the kids aren't with us. I'm like, this is the time. This is the moment. We're in a hotel. Nobody's round. No, you truly, you only can't have a hotel. Like, I almost, like, I have a best Western discount. I'm a best Western member now. No, I'm just kidding. But, yeah, it's a lot.

One other thing I wanted to talk to you about before, and you touched on this a little bit, and I think I just, you know, we talk a lot about health and wellness on this podcast, and our buddy Chervine was on your show. We love Shervin, but there was an article that the Wall Street Journal put out, and I think it kind of like went below the radar. And it was, what I was reading was like all of these illnesses have now come through and they're starting to see things because of the respiratory issues from the people that are fire victims, skin issues, things that complications that people were not associating with the fire that are now like literally being proven. I feel like that article came out and then people kind of swept it under the rug. Well, if you watched our podcast with Cherveen, he then left and threw up for like two days.

Well, he, like, if he gets exposed to like, because of the air? You know, She's a shirvina, he's too sensitive. You know, he's so funny, my camera operator when he heard this or like, whoever was like, wouldn't his immune system be like better? And I'm like, no, he's so pure. That it's like, you know, it's like the devil choking him. But shout out to him.

He did just send me the new creatine that he's very excited about. I had it last night. It's all I got to eat after note. No, I did have no food before. But not that much because I'm on budget. Creatine into skinny margarita. No, I actually. I stopped with margaritas.

It's just tequila. It's just plain tequila. Yeah. It does not work for me. I'll give you a real thing because Shrek told me in combat, they used to drink Delta Forest. And I was like, you guys would drink before and op? He goes, you can't be drunk in a gunfight.

I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, the second the gunfight starts, the adrenaline. He washes the law. He's like, you are sober. I swear to God, I live such gunfight, like energy all day long. I'm like drinking to kill. I'm like, this shit does not work. You know, like, obviously.

eventually. Got to be careful with that. You know, eventually it works. Just have to find that where it works. No, I've cut down on the drinking, unfortunately. But a lot of people are. No, what happened to me, I got staff for my lot. I had, I've never had been on antibiotics.

I'm like anti-antibotics for like, I want to say 20 years. I had to do like four different rounds of crazy antibiotics. I had holes in my skin eating. How did you get it? Because my dubs. dumb ass was digging around in my toxic rubble looking for crystals when everybody else was in those white hazmat suits and I thought, oh, those stupid do they look? Yeah. So wait, so you were digging around. He was in the debris looking for like crystals and the debris gave you staff? Well, obviously

like had like a little scratch and it got into my blood. So I spent God knows how many hours and money spending every day for like two months in a hyperbaric chamber eventually i got rid of but it's like i still now have like this form of eczema that they had to cut out one of these things to like do a biopsy because dr wu jescu and she like did found all this research this happened to fire victims in san francisco like a big problem with this extreme eczema you know we thought it was so bad she thought maybe it was psoriasis so that's why we had to cut out a piece of it you get labs but it wasn't so a 100% and then that movie star forget her name i'm sorry she died of like a lung thing like pneumonia and lungs and you read her quotes i don't want to say a name and somebody's still alive but whoever died

from the palace is a big time movie star if you go back she talks about how she was like coughing so much post-fire and then like a few months later she dies of like a pneumonia lung disease so he has been sending me so much products and i am like you guys like a bootleg version of how healthy you guys are, you know, like the amount of supplements and peptides I'm injecting and I just don't have as much time to work out. So I don't look like it. But I am about to get on a crazy protocol because I'm working with this guy, Chris Duffin, who just did all Heidi's labs and her thing of like, I'm like, I need this. What, he just looks at everything. You look at all your blood work. You know, like I've always looked at my blood work. Like we always work with Chris Talley, who does,

you know, all the superstar athletes. But he doesn't, he's not independent. peptides where I am. So we then went to Chris Duffin, who's like an expert in peptide science, and we got new labs done just for hormones and peptides. And he did Heidi's whole thing. And I saw them out. So I have mine coming up. So whatever you see now, there will be a new look when I'm mayor. I'm going to be in fancy suits that I got half off. Well, shout out boss before they stop responding to my emails. No, I learned this too. Oh, Hugo Boss is different than Boss. But is it the same, like the same lobes?

It's a different brand. No. Okay. So Boss. Okay. You know, they sent me a lot of very nice clothes when I was, and then they stopped because I think I was like, well, I need a new wardrobe. I can't filter these two suits and I think 40 emails later.

I'm blocked. But shout out them for the couple looks. I do have two nice looks that I wore to Washington. What a podcast? That was a lot of range, Spencer. We went from a lot of different subjects. I feel like we always have fun talk. Yeah.

I mean, I wanted to do this for a while. You got a lot going on, man. If you, anyone... I know, I wanted to do it at your hotel in Montecito you love, but I understand it's hard to, you know. Yeah, why can we go to San Cedro? Well, we could. We could definitely. I'm available always.

Wait, so if you win and we go to San Cedro Ranch. I think once I win, I'm literally going to be firing so many people that will have to like do it in City Hall. Where can everyone follow you, support Heidi, all the things by your book? Yeah, the book that we're here for the book, you know, obviously the book. I have 40 of them in my car. So I'm holding invisible ones. They're very beautiful.

Ideally, if you're a wealthier listener, you could download and buy the audiobook, which is very unique because, ready for this, I am the only audiobook to have a famous vocal producer take my voice. I use Heidi's famous, so he did that, and it gets better. In the book, there's this person, Jason Joshua, who, when Heidi did her first album in 2009,

He was a young guy, a mixer, and he worked on Mosahide's superficial album. Cut to now, he has 17 Grammys. He's one of the most famous mixers in the world, the Beyonce's Lemonade. So I was like, I want my audiobook mixed by. And the publisher's like, nobody does this. It's a compressed file. I'm like, he could make a voice memo sound like a Grammy. You're wrong.

And like, we don't have the budget for this. So I hit him up and like, yo, you got to mix my audio book. They're saying they'll have the budget for he. He's like, I got you, bro. So I row back to the publisher. He's got me. They're like, oh, my God. So my audiobook has 17 Grammy mix behind it, which nobody in the history of audiobooks is done.

Can Taylor, our producer, walk. I'm going to say, Taylor Swift. I was going to say, yes, Taylor's loved audiobooks. She just went on the news and said she loves listening to them. So Taylor, I know we've been back and forth on emails where they don't come back. but I need a little promo. Taylor, our producer, can he walk down to the car with you

and get me a book that's signed so I can take pictures of it? I bought the book. I bought it on pre-order the second you got it, but can I get a signed Spencer copy that I can take pictures of? Probably will need $30 cash. That's fine.

$30 cash. Done. I'll venmo you. Done, done, done. No, don't Venmo me. Now there's all these campaign things. Actually, no cash. We're good.

It's crazy. How do I get it? Oh, my gosh. God, money. Who knows? Thank God I have like famous treasurers and campaign lawyer. I'm bulletproof. You know, one of the most interesting thing about running for mayor,

guess how much is a max donation? How much? For mayor of L.A. Millions of people. How much? Yes, I said. $300? $300?

Yeah. Thank God, not $300. No, a max donation. No, hold on. Yes. I'm going to say $100,000. Million. $1,800.

So okay so I'm not that crazy bar like yeah 300 I think God is not I thought but like say there's very rich people that want to get when you gave me the reaction of thrift I'm like oh man it must be in the millions but now that's what I'm saying like anybody would think you can be mayor of LA with getting 300 well I was trying to think about like how many people are allowed to donate and then also like if the whole population like how much money that could be and like you know could you end up with a war chest of you have to give it back you have that's what I'm saying okay so like but what if you have what if you have Like, say you were worth $100 million.

Somebody ran and spent $100 million and lost. And so you, but if you had to use my own money as much as you want. Okay. Here's the craziest thing. As mayor, though, the first thing I'm going to, one of the first. I got a lot of firsts. They're all in the same. Do you know?

You don't because I didn't know. You'd have to run for mayor to know this. For every dollar I raise could be wrong by $1. So for every dollar I raise, the city will give me $6. So Mayor Karen Bass, when she ran last, she got $2 million from the city for her own campaign. So obviously I'm going to use that now running. But once I'm mayor, we're done.

We're not using taxpayer money. That seems really strange. People to run for office. You can do what I. So like when I was a California resident, my tax money went for people to run to potentially become mayor when they weren't mayor. Right.

Regardless of me. She can use it as mayor. So like if Lauren donated to you, but I wanted another candidate to win in that person like potentially, my tax dollars would still go to the candidate that I wasn't looking for. So I'm getting rid of that. Yeah, that's weird. I'm going to use it first.

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