The Bossticks - Stassi Schroeder Is Full Of Surprises - How A Reality Star Became A Best Selling Author, Top Podcaster & Sold Out Theaters
Episode Date: January 14, 2020#241: On today's episode we sit down with Stassi Schroeder. Stassi Schroeder is the star of Vanderpump Rules, A New York Times Best Selling Author, & Podcaster. Today we sit down with Stassi to discus...s how she became a best selling author, sold out theaters, and a top podcaster. We also discuss her upcoming wedding, this season's Vanderpump Rules, & her tips and tricks for life. To connect with Stassi Schroeder click HERE Check out Stassi on TSC blog back in 2012! HERE To connect with Lauryn Evarts click HERE To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM To Call the Him & Her Hotline call: 1-833-SKINNYS (754-6697) This episode is brought to you by ROOTZ NUTRITION Whether your goal is to start seeing better results in the gym, or just look and feel your best, you are going to love the Rootz Protein Superfood.Packed with protein, greens, electrolytes, and tons of superfoods, it's perfect for adding to your morning smoothie, drinking after exercise, or as a quick and easy meal replacement at any time during the day. Use code SKINNY for 20% off your entire order. This episode is brought to you by Sephora Stress can affect your skin. It can cause dryness, signs of aging, and redness. The good news is that Sephora's got your solves. Keep your skin in check with Sephora's skin-saving line up. Have a stress free skin 2020. Just head to any Sephora store or visit www.sephora.com to shop skincare. This episode is brought to you by Ancient Nutrition Did you know that your skin, hair, nails and connective tissues are all made from collagen? And, generally speaking, once you turn thirty, your body naturally slows in its production of collagen. That's WHY collagen supplementation is so popular in the wellness and beauty community AND why Ancient Nutrition created Multi Collagen Protein. Get $10 off your order now by using promo code SKINNY10 at www.ancientnutrition.com Produced by Dear Media
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their skincare. Be sure to get the skin-saving lineup only at Sephora, online, and in stores now. Okay,
let's get into the show. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial
entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you
along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential,
him and her. I do have good timing with things. Like, podcast.
came out the right time. I was like the villain on Van der Pumpump Rules at the right time. I mean,
I wrote a book at the right time about the right thing. Like it's all been like, I feel like timing has
been very important in my life. Hello, happy Tuesday. Welcome back to the skinny confidential
him and her podcast. That clip was from our guest of the show today, Vendor Pump Rules, Stasi Schroeder.
I am excited for this episode, Michael. It's been a long time coming. We talk about it on the show. I mean,
It's been, I don't know, I joke around with her on the podcast and you'll hear like, I don't know how both of us, both Stasi and us have done so many podcasts and this hasn't happened sooner, but here it is.
Well, I did go on her podcast, which was really fun, probably four months ago and I was very pregnant but hiding it.
I was wearing your talentless sweats and hiding the whole entire thing.
And she didn't know, which is wild.
Definitely check out that episode.
I think it's like the third episode down on her podcast.
Her podcast is called Straight Up with Stasi.
If you're new to the show, I'm Lauren Everett's Bostic, and across from me is my husband.
I must be doing something right because you went Everts Bostick instead of just Lauren
Everett, so I got my name thrown in there.
I'm Michael Bostic, guys.
I'm the CEO of the Dear Media Podcast Network and the co-host of the show.
Listen, you got some loving eyes coming to me right now.
Well, you did make me mac and cheese last night at 10 p.m.
Guys, let me tell you what I did here.
I anchor baby this woman, and ever since then, she's been obsessed with me.
Okay, Michael, whatever narrative you want to tell yourself.
Listen, if you're a guy out there and you want to get a girl into, I mean, just anchor baby.
I am 38 weeks, almost 39 weeks, ready to pop.
This baby could pop out anytime, maybe even now.
Yeah.
Honestly, like, I'm waddling around like a duck.
I have so much water in my face.
I need lymphatic drainage.
My ankles are swollen.
My toes are swollen.
Sex has gotten interesting because people, people have asking, like, is it a, you?
But we were just having a conversation.
Yeah, Michael, describe this.
Well, because the problem is, in the beginning, you know, you're like, it's just this primal thing.
You're, your lady's pregnant.
And you're like, I did that.
And you get all into it.
But then now it's like, hey, feel the baby's head and spine.
And it's literally between you and a thin piece of skin.
And it's hard to, it's hard to get in there and get all, you know.
Okay.
But Michael, Dr. Berlin told me, who was on the podcast on Friday, that semen makes the baby come out.
So I'm going to need you to, like, ejaculate in a cup of semen or just like.
I don't think that's how it works. I don't think you ejaculate it. Maybe it does.
I need your semen. Taylor, save that clip. I, listen. Michael. Save that clip.
How it gets how this is what Dr. Rillins said. How it gets in is how it gets out.
So I need you to like. I need to get the baby out. I get it loud and clear.
No. And I need I need you to put prim oil, prim rose oil according to Wesley,
up my vagina and rub it around. Okay. Okay. No, I'm just, I'm being serious. I like, I need you to like,
I need you to really get on board.
You want me to deliver this baby?
You'll be delivered this baby?
I'm ready.
I'm ready to have the baby.
I can do it.
I just don't want to grab the head or the spine while I'm doing it.
Does that make sense?
No,
that doesn't make sense.
I might have to pull the hair or grab something else.
Yeah.
Anyways, we're getting on a tangent here, guys.
Okay, let's get back on track.
Happy Tuesday.
Here's a conversation about semen.
Switching gears.
So, Banner Pump Rules.
It just came out.
I think it's on season eight.
I personally think it's one of the most genius reality shows.
that has ever happened.
And I consider myself a guru
because I'm a huge real housewives watcher.
Love Laguna Beach.
Cesta Key.
I love all of them.
This one has a different feel
because the people actually are friends.
And it doesn't feel like an ensemble cast
was just put together from random people.
Right.
And I notice when I'm watching it,
your peripheral goes to the TV.
Listen, I told Stossi when she's on the show,
like it's one of those things.
If I'm trying to read a book in bed and it's on,
like I'm going to watch Vanderpenterfrault.
Yeah.
It's so entertaining.
I can't take my eyes off it.
It's not,
I don't know if it was something
that I would have originally
just gone into.
I'm not a reality person,
but I'm not going to lie.
It is very entertaining.
And what's so wild
is before Stasi was on Vanderpump,
she was friends with a girl I know named Nikki,
and she was friends on Facebook.
And I saw her and I was like,
that girl, Stasi is going to be a star.
I don't know why I thought that.
I just remember thinking that.
This is like nine years ago.
So I messaged her on Facebook and I said,
I have this blog,
called The Skinny Confidential. I just launched it and I would love for you to be the skinny
ista of the month. And if you guys have been reading my blog for the last nine to 10 years, you know
what Skinny Easter of the month is if you're an OG reader and basically asked her all these questions
about her diet, health, wellness, and beauty secrets. And it's still up on the Skinny Confidential to this day,
which is wild. And then she ended up booking the show and obviously you know how that goes.
Now she's a New York Times bestselling author. She has her live podcast. She has her live podcast.
podcast tour, her podcast crushes it, and she's like one of the stars of Vaynerpnopouls.
So it's really cool to see how that's come full circle.
So with that guys, enjoy this long overdue conversation with Stasi Schroeder.
Stasi, welcome to the Him and Her show.
This is the skinny confidential, him and her.
Yeah, I'm far along enough, I think, to have a glass of wine.
I think I might be one of those women that does have some red wine every now and then when I get
pregnant.
You could do it in the third trimester, no problem.
Yeah, I mean, that's what doctors say. So, like, if doctors say it's okay, why the fuck not?
I think it's a very American thing.
That's a little drink. I thought it was a European thing.
No, I mean, European thing is okay to drink. American thing, yeah, we get scared about everything
over here. I'm going to have my pregnancy in France. You should have it in France. You know,
here's my advice. Take your time. You're going to get married, enjoy every second of being a fiancé. That's such a fun time.
It is. It's fun. It's overwhelming. You're getting married in Europe? Yes.
Where?
Rome.
Amazing.
Yes.
It's actually a giant bitch trying to plan a wedding that's also going to be on television.
So there's that.
So it's like an extra like added layer of hell that I'm in right now.
Like what does that entail?
Explain it to people that just have no fucking idea.
Well, so, okay, Bravo doesn't pay for anything.
Like literally not a dime.
So I'm planning the wedding as if I would, you know, be doing it myself.
But every location, you have to have a release.
They have to sign the Vaynerpump Rules contract.
They need permits to film everywhere.
So I can't plan my wedding without already having those permits to film, which takes a very long time to negotiate because it's in another fucking country.
So like planning that has just been so stressful.
And Bo and I have just been like, oh, my God, we should have just gone to the courthouse.
Like, this is, it's insane.
So, I mean, we went to Rome two months ago to look for our venue and where we would stay and all that.
and we still don't have it locked down. So it's, it's a lot. So is there a part of you that wants
some kind of privacy with the wedding? Will you have something that's just you and Bose?
Probably not. It's too late for that. It's too late. I feel like, you know what? And I'm not
sitting here, I'm not here to complain. Like, I am so lucky to have had Vanderpump rules.
I was young enough when it started to where now I'm used to that being my life. And I feel
like I owe it to viewers. I owe it to everyone to show the biggest moment of my life. I'm used to
it. So I don't know what it would be like to not to be able to have privacy on my wedding. I don't
even know what that would be like. That's a good attitude. You signed up there, you know? It is. And it's
my job. And I enjoy doing it. So let me ask you a serious question. Okay. How many podcasts have you
have you done? I have no fucking idea. But a lot. 300? Once a week for almost six years.
Okay. And how many have we done? So let's say there's like a thousand of these things that have
is accumulatively between both of us.
What the fuck took this, though, so long to happen here?
Just scheduling.
Oh, I know.
I know.
We're removed by like five degrees.
It's insane.
I know.
And I'm like right down the street.
And what's so crazy, we talked about this last time when she did my podcast, is that
like she interviewed me when I was in college.
Oh, on her, oh, you were a skinista of the week?
Yes, I was.
And we looked back on it.
And I was like, oh, my God.
I'm like, my advice is so embarrassing.
I mean, it's still kind of true.
But it's embarrassing.
It's so vintage.
It's so vintage.
It is.
I was thinking about it today. I'm like, okay, you've also been doing this for a very long time.
We've been doing pretty long time. We're removed by like three degrees. You've got Taylor's
Tracker, Jackie Schimwell. Yes. You've been in here, right? Yes, I have. Okay, so it feels like
familiar. So I was like, what the fuck is taking this so long? I know. I think that's something
that you should point out and talk about more is the fact that you are doing so much behind the scenes
that people don't see. Right. I try and Instagram it. I like try to story it. But like I've found that
people also don't like to watch me working, which is weird. Like, you've built y'all's brand
of that. People look and aspire to be you. I look at your Instagram because I'm like, oh my God,
it's so aspirational and awesome. I've found that, like, when I'm posting about me working or
doing things, it's like people don't watch or don't care or don't like it. They, like,
want to just see me, like, getting shit-faced, like, with my friends. But that's, that's so annoying
because you literally have a New York Times bestselling book.
You're an entrepreneur.
You're working on your collab with just fab.
You have all these things going on.
And doing a TV show is fucking work.
I mean,
like let's be honest to put your face on
and give off that energy.
It's a lot of work.
I mean, listen,
sitting in the seat that I sit in,
I see,
you know,
I hear and see some things going on in the inner workings.
I saw that tour,
another one you're doing right now getting out,
and I was like,
holy fuck,
that's a lot of work.
It's a lot of fucking work.
It's the most work I've ever put into something.
Like,
I thought writing a book was hard,
Like this is not only was like creating it because I didn't want it just to be like a podcast where I release the audio.
I'm like, no, like I want to put on a show.
I want a set.
I want these segments.
I want music.
I want lighting.
I want everything.
And so to come up with it was already like overwhelming, but so fun.
But to travel every day and beyond every day.
It's exhausting.
I think the traveling is like the hardest part.
You know, like I feel like I've lost touch with my friends.
my family, I don't have time with anyone anymore.
And then I feel like I'm just a shitty friend and I need to like find time to work people into my life.
It's, but it is, it's, it's insane.
I mean, how cool is it to be able to.
So I can, again, I feel like I'm, I'm a complainer when it comes to everything that's going on.
But like, how lucky are all of we, right?
All of us right now.
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All right.
Let's get back to Stasi.
Kim Kardashian says the same thing you say.
She says the hardest part about where she is is that it's hard to still keep in contact with friends.
I think that the friends that really understand you will.
be okay with that space and the proximity.
You should be happy for you.
Yeah.
And I know, and I feel like they are.
I just can't, I feel like a shitty friend.
They're not, no one's making me feel that way.
It's just, I, you know, I see all of their Instagrams.
I see them doing things.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm never there.
And I'm not a good textor or so I'm not like someone who like communicates very well.
And so I'm just like, no one ever hears from me.
Let's talk about not being a good text.
Welcome to my life.
This is a really good subject.
well I'm not a bad texter.
You're the worst I've ever seen.
I'm a selective texter.
No, you're the worst I've ever seen.
You just won't text people back.
Well, I do the same.
Like if I, most of the time, you know, like you haven't heard from someone a while and then they send in a text.
And I'm like, okay, 90% of the time, it's probably an ask of some sort.
Right.
And I don't, I don't respond to those ones.
I mean, it's not, I'm not trying to be rude.
I just know that I'm not going to be able to give it my all.
So I'm like better to just.
Just like, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, for me, like, I use my phone for work.
Right.
It's work.
So I associate the phone with working.
I 100% get you.
So I don't want to talk on my phone to my friends.
I know that's weird.
I know.
I feel exactly the same way.
It is our phones are our job.
Like responding to emails, responding to questions from whoever you're a manager,
whoever it is you work for all fucking day long.
When I hear my phone ding, it's like, motherfucker.
Like what more?
If someone just sends me like, hey, how it?
What's up?
Do you want to do this?
I'm like, go fuck yourself.
It is, it's my heart drops.
What about this one?
What's new?
No one ever messages me.
You need new friends.
What's new?
Lauren is like she, she needs, I have never.
You need to get with satsiloba little, she needs a plate.
Lauren is like notorious.
Like she'll get into that what's new conversation with someone we haven't seen in nine years.
And I'm saying, how would you handle this?
I'm like, I would never be in this situation.
Yeah.
No one has ever, you need new friends.
No one has ever messaged me what's new.
I'd be like, follow me on Instagram.
I would literally write my Instagram hand.
That's what's new.
I'm trying to be a little more harsh.
Michael's a little more cut through.
No, it's not harsh.
It's just like, what are you doing in those conversations?
I don't see, I don't see what's occurring.
And what are they serving you?
Yeah.
And the one, I'm getting better at the asks, anything that's an ask.
You can kind of see it in the DMs, too, when it's an ask.
Yeah.
And I'm just trying to stay away from it.
My new words, proximity.
Do you like, okay, so if you can kind of see that it's going to be an ask,
do you just quickly delete the conversation without opening?
it. That's what I do. Savage. I haven't had a birthday party.
That's a good one. I haven't had a birthday party in 20 years. You know why? I'm scared. I'm scared if I have a
birthday party and I ask someone to come do something for me. True. Then they're going to,
then I have to reciprocate. You are a smart man. I don't ask for anything. I don't want anything.
I want to be, the only reason I want to be successful in life is like I can be so insulated that I have to ask for nothing.
Yes. And then I can't be asked in return. That is, you have it figured out. Like, I think the only other
person besides you now that has it figured out is Kylie Jenner because she does not have to
to do a damn thing. She can literally live in her compound, do whatever the fuck she wants.
She doesn't even have to go on keeping up with the Kardashians. She just chills.
But let me tell you something. Here's what happens in my life. I got married to this woman here
that for some reason, she's a big yes girl. And so still, even in my seat where I don't have,
when I put myself in that position, I still, I get committed to everything. Birthday parties,
bachelor parties. What is going to a baby shower this weekend? I get, I get sucked in because I'm
married. So I don't even, it's too late for me. I'm done. I'm really right. That like,
Big of a, like, go-out person, though.
I see things pop on my calendar and I immediately start having heart palpitations.
Yeah.
You know, I think, too, when you're, like, constantly working on your phone all week by the weekend, like, I'm just done.
Yeah.
Tim Ferriss says he's so fucking smart and he says he does, like, kind of like live tours like you do.
Yeah.
And he says he has to recharge his battery or he's just functioning on 1%.
Yes.
Yes.
Which means I need to be at home watching 90-day fiancé, like, for five hours.
well, no one bothers me. I need to not put on makeup. I need to wear sweatpants. And I need to not hear my phone
ding. Is that what you do when you want to relax? You just turn your phone off? I have turned my phone off.
Yeah. I honestly, like, I don't go to spas really that often. I'm not like a meditator. I don't know how to do
that. My idea of relaxing is turning my phone away and just like watching mindless television.
And you're like us where you like to be home with your fiance. Yes. We like to be home together.
with our dogs. Yes. It is my favorite thing in the world. And now you have a barefoot dreams
blanket. And yes. I'm telling you, this is what's going to happen. Okay. You're going to get home and you're
going to put the blanket down and your dogs are going to take the blanket. Oh, 100%. They take all of my
cashmere blankets. I'm like, this is a fucking waste. You're going to need another one. And then Bo's
going to take it for sure. You have 10. You're going to end up with like nine or 10 of these
blankets everywhere. I'm fine with it. Okay. So I asked the audience a bunch of questions of what they
want to know about you. And it seems like people want specifics on your, like, beauty, on your makeup,
on your spray tan, like, for real? Super specifics on your brows. Like, they want the details.
Really? Yeah. And right now you're wearing a lash. I'm wearing a lot. Yeah. I just go to get the,
like, Ardell lashes and cut them a little bit, and I put them on myself super easy. I have to wear
foundation every day because I have psoriasis and rosacea. So it's like I'm. I don't see that.
well, I have foundation on right now, but it's, it's disgusting. So I wear Christian Dior Air Flash
foundation, lots of coverage. And the brows, like I just fill them in with the Anastasia,
Anastasia powder. You do your own makeup? Yeah. Always? Yeah. I rarely get my makeup done. I don't
trust a lot of people with my face because they just like, I don't know. I just feel like I know my face
better than anyone else. I feel like on my wedding day, I'm going to do my own makeup. I'm
hardcore think that might be an option. Whoa. Yeah. That's heavy. You're not going to bring
makeup artist. I might. I mean, I'm definitely bringing a hair person, my hair stylist, but
I don't know. I mean, that makeup artist better get that, because I always fix it after someone
does my makeup. I always go and change something about it. So what would be the point when I can just
do, like, did you do your makeup today? No, I didn't do my makeup. Oh, you did? I don't like to do my
makeup. She's got a whole.
No, I like to. Can I get the name of your person? Yes. I liked the reason I don't like to do my
makeup, though, doesn't have to do that. I don't think I can do my makeup. It has to do. There's an
hour of time that's wasted for me. Oh, no, I can quickly do this. Like, I do my own makeup for every show
in under 20 minutes. And I mean like glitter, eye shadow and everything. I see, it takes me
probably if I was like really just sit down and do it. It takes me like 40 minutes. And I just think
that like it is a big waste of time. Yeah, it could be returning like all like everyone's stuff.
so I can have more time off.
She's got to get back to those like what's new answers.
Yeah.
That's when I time back to my love to.
Yeah.
So what are other beauty tips that you're doing to prepare for your wedding?
Is there a spray tan?
Are you doing a workout?
Bo sprays me at this point now because I don't have, like,
I don't have time to schedule a spray tanner anymore.
So I literally buy from Amazon in bulk this like can.
I think it's called like quick tan or something.
It's so cheap.
And I make Bo do it.
Like I spread my butt and everything.
He's just, I bend over.
You did not want me to spread my ass right now.
Yeah, there's a lot going on right now.
I don't know what's going on.
We were just at the hospital and she got up in those stirrups.
I'm like, I'm going to be on the other side.
Go on the other side.
Listen, you're going to have to.
You can't look.
No, no.
You know what?
Let's talk about.
Do you think you're going to look?
Absolutely not.
You know what?
I'm not one of these guys.
I'm not like, I'm not that artistic.
I don't need to know what's going on down there.
I feel like that's, you know, I can see it right when it comes over the sheet to me.
Yeah, from behind. I think that's smart.
I don't understand, like, all these guys, people are beating me up about this.
They're saying, like, it's so beautiful.
You don't want to watch your daughter come on.
It's like, of course I do, but do I need to be like right in there?
I'm a little, you know.
Oh, no, Beau said, he's very passionate about this.
He said he will absolutely be behind my head.
He's like, I cannot see any.
I will faint.
I can't see it.
I'm like, fair.
I wouldn't want to see something coming out of your asshole.
Like, absolutely.
Like, very fair.
I also don't want him to see it.
Yeah.
And listen, I know she doesn't want me to see it.
and I know that I'm not, I'm a little squeamish.
I'm not, and listen, I want to maintain the sexy image of my wife and be like,
you know, I don't need to see like arms and legs popping out.
People are giving you a hard time.
People give me a hard time all the time.
Yeah, maybe I got to keep you around.
Yeah.
When they give me a hard time, you're used to dealing with this.
People give you a hard time, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Listen, that's how I live my life getting a hard time.
What do you do with the trolls?
I really, it takes a lot to affect me.
It really does.
Imagine at this point, it's like, it's like, it's like, bulletproof, you know?
It is.
You know what?
I made a mistake recently, and I haven't actually talked about this on air. When I was at home for
Thanksgiving, I woke up earlier than Bo and I'd already looked at like every website and social
media thing. And I'm like, you know what? I've never gone to Reddit. I'm going to try.
It's a big, big mistake. I'm going to go to Reddit because I want to see what people have to say about
my live show. And I sobbed four hours. I didn't want to do the show anymore. I was like,
holy fuck Reddit is an evil evil place and I just I got so insecure and so upset and I'm like
everyone hates me like ever why am I even doing this why do I have a podcast why am I on
vanner pump rules why the fuck do I have any followers on Instagram everyone hates me and they're
so specific about how they hate me I will never ever do that again that is the one time where
it really got to me because there's like a different like level of meanness I guess the more
anonymous you get the more they come out. It is, it was terrifying. Before we dive into that,
let's talk about matcha. If you've watched my Instagram stories, you have seen that I've been
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All right, let's get back to the episode.
You can never go to Reddit.
I will never again.
Reddit is like for the deep, deep, deep, deep trolls that are actually obsessed with you, I think.
Okay.
They're all obsessed.
That makes me feel a little better.
Way more devastating, though.
If you went there and there was nothing, that's way worse.
You know, the only thing worse than being talked about is being not talked about.
Yeah, it's true.
What's that quote again?
Who said that?
Mark Twain or someone?
I don't know with you in your quotes anymore.
But Oscar Wild, I think.
It was Oscar Wild, I think.
But that would be devastating.
And you go there like, I wonder what people are saying.
It's just nothing.
And then it's nothing.
Oh, you're right.
So what if someone comments on your Instagram something that's so dick?
Do you respond or do you just believe?
Sometimes I'll respond if I can like come up with a joke or like call them out in a way that
I'm not being mean to them, but it then it gets everyone else to like I want to bring attention
to it so that everyone else sees how awful this person is and then comments under and then
that person you know is just like getting alert after alert after alert.
But like I don't really like fight back.
Logic is always fun too.
Like when it's something so emotional and you just respond with dead logic.
Okay.
Like, that always works for me.
Give me an example.
An example is, oh, God.
Just someone saying to me, like, are you having twins or something?
Like, because you're big right now?
I'm just making this up.
Because I don't see what's mean about that.
Yeah, just I'm trying to think.
That's not a good example.
What's a good example?
Like you're about to pop.
You're like, no shit.
I'm trying to think of like a really good one because some I like when you I like when people like so she's talked about like boob jobs and all sorts of stuff on her and I like this is a good one
and people get it come out of her and then she like directs them to the post she's like yeah this one I'm like you're so fake and I'll say here's the post yeah I read all about it I like I'll say at dr. Barrett thanks for the good work yes you know 100% like someone was like making fun of me being like this bitch can't even read blah blah blah blah and then I just sent them a link to my book like or like hashtag New York Times bestseller
or like refer to my bio.
Yes.
You know, like, it's just, here's some logic for you.
Yeah.
I think the trolls need a little logic.
Yes.
You know, if you're that deep to the comedy on someone's Instagram that you don't know
from a fake account, like, ugh.
It really doesn't matter.
It doesn't.
What happens to you here now in L.A.?
You've been here for a while, but like, can you run around and go to normal places
like you used to?
Or is it?
Yeah, totally.
I mean, I go to the same places pretty much.
Ellie's a little bit more accepting, huh?
I think also in L.A., everyone's jaded.
Yeah.
No one gives a shit.
Like, you know what I mean?
mean like you can see like Reese Witherspoon so like who really gives shit about someone from
vannerpump rules yeah but what happens when you go to new york Texas Arizona that's intense
so I definitely like when beau wants to like go do something in the cities that we're in I
I get frustrated with him because I'm like I can't like I can't like I'm going to have to do my
makeup I'm going to do my hair that will take a lot of time I'm like I need to just stay in my hotel
room because if I walk around, you know that someone's going to say something or if one person wants
a photo, then even if someone doesn't know who I am, they see someone taking a photo with me,
then line up and say that they want one. And I'm like, I can't go and do that. So if you can just,
you go by yourself, go roam the city by yourself, I will be here in the hotel room, staying safe.
And what do you do if you go out and you're not made up and people come up to you? I mean,
in the airport that's happened and I just said, I'm sorry, I feel like really ugly right now. Like, I
I don't want to take a photo.
Like, sorry.
People can't argue with that.
Like, you can't.
I'm like, I have no makeup on.
And I literally look like a troll.
I look like Ghalam.
Like, you can't ask to take a photo with me that might then get out there and be retweeted.
Like, no.
I'm going to steal that one.
Not that I'm getting asked in the airport all the time.
But I'm just saying if I look like a fucking butthole, I'm just going to be like, I look like Bollum.
I'm so sorry.
I can't do it right now.
I'm just direct him to Michael because Michael doesn't give a fuck.
I'm like a vocal.
nerd here. I like love Star Wars. I love Lord of the Rings. I love Game of Thrones. I can't get her to look at anything. And so I know you're, I know you're a big Game of Thrones fan. I don't know. I tell her why she needs to just take a little bite into one. Furnalia side. She needs to get into one genre. Fantasy. She won't even watch. Because Beau is literally at the Grove right now watching Star Wars. I'm going tomorrow morning at the
right now.
Bo beat you though.
Bo's here.
He sounds like a man after my own heart.
But I can't get her to do anything.
She won't even watch.
And then she'll do this annoying thing.
Well, she'll, she'll like, if it's Star Wars, she'll like, yeah, I'll go to the movie with you.
I'm like, it's episode nine.
You're going to miss all of them and then just go to nine.
Oh, yeah.
Don't do that.
Well, I mean, is there anything?
What do you watch?
I like to watch Housewives.
But is there anything that is not reality-based that you like to watch?
Curb, Supranos.
Curb your enthusiasm is my absolute favorite show.
Okay.
Nice choice.
Sipranos.
It's over.
It's way over.
I've watched it again.
I love mob movies.
I love crime.
You and Taylor Strecker.
That's her favorite show, too.
I love drugs.
I love all of that in shows.
I like real life scenarios.
I don't like to watch someone that's,
that's a fake thing.
For somebody who's so creative.
I don't get it.
That's an easy way to get someone into fantasy.
I feel like Harry Potter is,
it's easy.
Like, I can binge that like for a full week
and watch one a night as I'm going to bed.
I can't do it. Okay. It might be a lost cause. I think it's a lost cause. I didn't try it for 20 years.
No, the Star Wars thing I can't do. What makes you, and this is a question that I think I could answer, but I want you to answer it. What do you think makes you unique from other reality stars? Like you're like kind of like a Kristen Cavalry that you have this staying power. Because you've been really good at being able to kind of stay at the top of your game while being on a reality show. And that's not always the case.
Meaning like you don't need to, I mean, listen, Bannerfam's a great show, but you don't need to, like, you could go to other properties and carry an audience.
Yes.
I'm special.
No, I have no, I've actually surprisingly never been asked to that question.
And I'm thinking about it really hard right now.
Oh my gosh.
I don't know.
I think, well, I am ambitious.
Like, I always have new ideas for things.
So I feel like that is something.
And I think that people, honestly, people really like authenticity.
And they want to watch something or be around something or follow something where they feel like
there's no facade.
Like they can relate to it.
And I think because I'm just very much who I am, like all of the ugly shit and all, like,
I think that that's what keeps me up there.
People, I think people can trust me.
Yeah, good or bad.
You know who said that to us?
Jillian Michaels.
She's like, love me or hate me, you know, like, because she's had a long career.
Yeah.
Like people know exactly what they're getting with her.
Right?
Yeah.
It's like, even if you're like, oh, my God.
I would never do that, never say that.
I don't like that.
You know it's her.
It's not bullshit.
And so you, like, cool.
Totally.
Jackie Schimel's the same way.
Oh, yes.
Jackie Schimel is another thing.
Yeah, I can see why you guys are such good friends.
Jackie Schimel's the same way.
She's fucking.
She is,
this is what I mean.
She's the last one standing that does not have to censor herself at all.
I am so jealous of this.
You have no fucking idea that I just hope that, like, the more successful she gets,
she sticks to her guns.
You know what I mean?
because even though I'm honest, I still do have to censor myself.
Like, I can't make every joke in the world that I want to make.
I can't.
I would lose my career.
Every time she asked me, I'm like, just keep doing anything you want to do.
That's why Howard Stern's so fucking amazing.
There's so many people that they get involved and then they start like censoring people.
I'm like, that's what makes her so great.
I think I absolutely agree.
Please nurture that.
Never, ever.
Jackie Schimel could literally throw a rock at my head if I walked outside and I'd be like, good job, Jackie.
Yeah.
Whatever you want to do.
Jackie, I would love for you to throw a rock at his head after last night.
She would never.
She loved him too much.
Last night, I just looked in the mirror and I was like, what the fuck is happening to my body?
And Michael's like, it's fine.
I'm like, you can't, you don't have the right hairbrush for your hair.
It's fine.
You're freaking out.
He has no idea.
And then at the same time, he's complaining about his big toe.
I don't know how to react to crying.
I could literally.
I cry once a year.
I'm not good at it.
Oh, well, she doesn't cry that often.
No, but that's why I'm even worse at it is I don't get the practice, right?
If I was with somebody that cried a little more, I'd maybe know what to do.
Oh, yeah.
I cry like every day.
You do?
Oh, yeah.
I wish I could do it on command more.
It would get me more attention from him.
Well, no, it's just, it's how I get my release out.
It's like almost any emotion, any emotion, anger, happiness, like anxiety, sadness, anything.
Like, the way I deal with it is it just, like, comes out my eyes.
Like, I cry at like a Taco Bell commercial.
Like, the family looks cute.
It's like, oh, my God, family, and I can cry.
Wow.
I need to get my crying.
skills better. I can cry over happiness, right? But I just don't know how to do like if someone's
throwing a tantrum. I don't know what to do. I'm probably going to learn a lot with the young daughter's
going to teach me a lot of shit. I am so fucked. You really are. A little mini-mey. I had all these ideas.
I'm like, okay, I'm going to raise this tough young. Because she thought it was a boy for a long time.
I didn't carry the way. I just wanted a healthy baby. I know people say that but doesn't come
real until it's like actually you're going through it. Right. So I was like, okay, whatever.
About a boy, I was raised this tough young man. He's going to, you know, he's going to grow up. He's
respectable and you do it hard work and then she told me as a girl I'm like I am fucked I'm
gonna be the biggest softie in the world yeah do whatever she wants like yeah I'm done god I'm so
excited for y'all this baby is gonna be so fucking good looking and it's gonna be she's gonna be so
witty unless you just like two funny people create a dud it can happen that that is fair
it can happen I hope she's so fucking dramatic and does theatrics and just like pretends to faint when
do something. You know what's funny though is Lauren thinks that's going to be funny for me,
but I've already been dealing with that for 20 years of her. Like that's like everything.
She, that that's her in a nutshell. Like, you know, dramatic about everything. I want you to get
you a taste of your own medicine because she's going to do it to you. I've decided that the baby's
going to, I'm going to teach her to call you papa because that's so glam. I know. So like,
can you imagine she's downstairs?
Oh, holy shit. I got to take the headphones off. I love it. Like so annoying. Love it. So fucking
And also as she like grows older, it's like kind of bougie.
It's kind of boozy.
So no matter what, it's a win-win.
Yeah.
So when you guys get married, are you wanting kids right away or you want to wait or you
don't know?
I want kids right away, yeah.
Right away.
Yeah.
Okay, well just go get drunk off margaritas at El compadre.
That's why we're just, is that how you all, that's how it happened?
El compadre?
Wait, no, no, no, El Coyote.
Yeah, yeah.
Coyote.
Which is Katie's favorite restaurant in the whole world.
This is so rude.
I was just telling her that Katie just like worship
are.
Katie's got to come on here sometime.
Katie's got,
Katie, you got to come on here.
You know, I was, we, we had a plan.
We were going to go, we were going to take a break.
We were going to go to El Coyote.
No, we're going to go to South of France and we're going to be like romantic and we'd
drink wine every day together and then we tried to do baby making, right?
Yeah.
And then I fucked up and I got drunk on El Coyote and had Margarita and it was.
Oh my gosh.
I love it.
Yeah, be careful because you think like.
And she didn't know for seven weeks.
If you want to get pregnant right away, I bet like you guys, like some people get pregnant on
the wedding night.
I doubt it.
Listen, I was true.
Who knows if we're actually going to banging out on the wedding night?
I mean, is that, is that, you think?
It'll be quick.
It'll be quick and it'll be just to say that we did.
It's not the best.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't foresee us having this like night of passion after we were like,
we're going to want to like sit up and talk about everything or pass out.
Yeah.
What is his personality like?
Like, what's his vibe?
He's super laid back, but I have also managed to turn him into like a gossip queen.
You know, so he's around me all the time.
So it's like he's always just balanced me out.
And it's like I am just super OCD and all of that.
And he's just very chill, very understanding and very just like supportive.
But I have turned him a little bit into a monster.
So like when we get a text or see something on Instagram, he's like, oh my God, let's talk about this.
I'm like, yes.
Yes, King.
Yes.
It kind of sounds like you.
You love seeing and all the top stuff.
You like a little gossip.
I like to know what's going on.
I like to be part of it.
Yes.
Okay.
So I want to ask you something that I don't feel like a lot of people ask you.
And I kind of asked you in the beginning.
But more I want to go into the business side of what you do, like the entrepreneurship.
Right.
I feel like, do you have a team of people around you?
Yes.
Okay.
Can you explain that?
Because I feel like I want to like break down the fourth wall.
People think that someone in your position is just sitting around and like the camera turns on.
They don't get it.
And I know how much work it is.
Get into it.
Yeah.
Well, I have a million agents because I'm with you.
UTA. So like a book agent, a podcast agent, two podcasting tour agents, regular agent, social media
agent, like there's a lot of them. So there's like a full team. I have an amazing publicist.
I have an assistant and I have a lawyer. I don't have a manager because I feel like it's kind of a
waste and just takes my money away from me. So with all of them, like they're able to sort things
out. So basically it's dealing with, okay, podcast tour, then also doing the podcast at the same time,
then writing book number two, then this basically Stasi spin off for fucking Bravo, then I'm trying
to sell the rights to my book to make a show. So I have like all of these things that I'm
dealing with every single day all day. And we're in the middle of buying a house and planning a
wedding. So I feel very fucking overwhelmed every day. So for anyone who thinks that I'm just
sitting around on my ass, they can go fuck themselves. Seriously. So what does your morning routine
look like? I mean, I drink a Celsius really fast. Like, I don't really like have a routine.
And also depends on the day because no day is the same. Right. So you wake up at different times
depending on the day. Yeah. It depends on like if I'm on tour or if I'm filming. It doesn't,
every day is different. So I don't have a routine. And when you film and you, this is what I would do
if I was on a reality show. If I knew I had to film on Monday, I would. I would.
would need complete silence on Sunday.
Like, I would need all the time to myself because I need to, like, wrap my head around
the energy that I would need to be giving off.
I think you get used to it over a certain amount of time.
Season one, I was a bit of a brat to production because I just didn't understand how
filming a reality show worked.
But once you get used to it, you don't get that because then you're Sunday, if it's the,
that's your day off to get things in when you're not filming.
So then you don't really get a Sunday to relax anymore.
And are you having help with like assistance and employees or is it more stuff that you're doing hands on? Are you delegating? I delegate a lot. Yes. I only have one assistant. But I mean, I feel like. Shout out to Lowe, right? Yes, shout out to Lowe. But I feel like I'm I'm handling it right now. I like I do cry a lot about this. Like I really do. And Bo is very luckily I have a partner who is all about helping me be successful and is just like,
like loves to do anything to help me, whether it is to come on tour so that I don't pay an
extra guest and that income goes straight to our household or some or the fact that like he spent
seven hours last night just going through the inspections pages so I don't have to fucking do it.
Like anything I need, he'll take care of because he knows that I just have all of these
dreams that I want to accomplish and he's just like, I'll help you get there.
So he is also like an assistant.
It seems like you're marrying your teammate.
And a lot of, it's so interesting because I feel like there's two types of marriages.
There's like a marriage that's, you know, the man and the wife have two separate jobs and
two separate visions.
And then there's, I think, more of a teammate marriage where you're committed to the same vision and the same goal.
Yes.
Which I like you too.
We try to be teammates.
I mean, that's important.
You work together.
You do everything together.
And that is, I mean, that is hard to find the person.
who you can work with, play with, be in love with, run a household with,
and still love each other and be excited to do that?
I mean, that's not many people, not many couples can do that.
I could never have done that with any of my ex-boyfriends.
And I feel like it's such a contrast from your ex-boyfriend that you showed on the show.
Oh, yeah.
The contrast is amazing.
When I was with Patrick, I mean, we barely spent any time together.
He did not want me to do anything.
Patrick rub me the wrong way.
You know, I wish more people would have told me that.
Like, I spent a good four years off and on with him, and it's like kind of a waste.
You can't give people a relationship advice.
My dad told me this long time.
My dad's never giving me a relationship advice ever.
I mean, he says like broad things because he's like, listen, if I say no.
Something too specific also, you might.
Or if he's like, you know, the magic came to me, he's like, listen, don't go with Lauren
bad choice.
And it's a love of my life, then I'm pissed at him.
And if he says, hey, you know, go with this person.
They're great.
And you marry him.
And it's like the worst.
So you're right.
It's a delicate position to be in.
You're right.
You know, you just got to kind of watch.
Right.
Well, you know what?
It made me, the relationship with Patrick made me appreciate just how supported I feel now.
So if I hadn't have had that, you know, then maybe I would just be like, well, of course you have to do these things for me, you know?
So I'm much more appreciative.
I wanted to date all these duds to find me.
Yeah, I dated duds too.
I mean, I dated a lot of duds.
But I think just from watching the show from what I saw as an outsider, it seemed like he was insecure with your success.
I will never know the answer, but he didn't want me to do anything.
Like, he did not want me to do VaynerPump Rules.
Like, he didn't like when I did press.
He didn't, like, it was, it was, yeah.
I bet you've experienced this in your life.
People are, like, people are generally happy for you, not just you, but any of us,
until you surpass them and then they get weird, right?
Like, if they're doing well and it's like, but they're above you, like, let's just say
in a career path, they're above you still.
They're like, oh, good for you, good for you.
But as soon as you, like, start to overtake, which I'm sure you've overtaken a lot of
people in your life. Right. They get a little weird. They get a little funny. They don't like it.
I like how you say overtake. Like I'm a fucking drogan from Game of Thrones. Well, you get the
reference. I get the reference. A drogan? It's the dragon. You know the one. The one that fucking
lit everything on fire. No, baby, I was half paying attention. I'm just going to be honest. I would
like, I'll sleep with one eye open if I'm just being really real. So the cast is coming out with a new
season. Yes. Season eight. Real is this season. Like,
Honestly, how real is it?
Okay, so I'm going to tell you this.
I feel like I'm most excited about this season because it's the realist,
because they don't make anyone go into Sir if they're not actually picking up shifts there.
So you're not going to see Katie at Sir.
You're not going to fucking see Brittany at Sir.
You're certainly not going to see Lala working at Sir.
Like, they're not doing that anymore.
So a lot of our friends, like they bought houses.
They're doing different things.
Their lives are different.
So they follow what's really going on in our life.
lives while also introducing newer people who are actually working at Sir. And I mean, how that's
going to work, I have no fucking idea. Felt like we were filming two separate shows. How's it'll
intertwine it. I'm sure. I'm sure. How are the new cast members? I like a few of them.
The other few are lame. I mean, I don't know. Lame is a harsh word. I just don't have,
there's three of them that I have a lot in common with and the rest of them. I'm like, I
cannot relate to you or what you're about at all.
You're also 23.
So it's like I remember being that age, but it's, it's hard.
It's hard to like form a friendship when you're just like, this is the shit that you're
complaining about right now.
I just, I can't.
I'm not there anymore.
But that's why your show is so genius because it allows the audience to evolve with you guys
while also breathing fresh, youthful energy into the show.
Totally.
I mean, it's a very, very smart show.
Yeah.
I think it's one of the only ones you'll watch with me.
Yeah, I'm selective.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Listen,
I'm tuned in,
you know?
Yeah,
it's one,
it's the one where,
like,
your peripheral,
like,
from your book that you're supposedly reading on your
Kindle to the TV.
I try to be,
like, productive and be reading.
But if the show,
I'm not going to be one of those guys,
like, I never watch.
Like, if it's on,
I get drawn in.
I get sucked into it.
Yeah.
Love the drama, you know?
Yeah.
No, I get,
listen,
that's just like Beau.
Yesterday,
like I said,
when he was going over all of the shit for the house.
He's like, just put Housewives of Dallas on in the background.
And I'm like, okay, fine.
He's like, at least it'll give me something to listen to.
I'm like, that's great.
What's the best real housewives?
The best.
The best city.
New York.
I agree.
By far.
New York is the best.
They have the most, like, culture and characters.
What's happening with the OC?
I haven't, you know what?
I haven't watched the OC in so long that I feel like there's just so many seasons I would have to
catch up on that I've just like, I can't get.
my brain there. I completely agree. Okay, I have more business questions just because I can't help it.
Because I feel like you're running like so many different entrepreneurial things and like it's
it's like not on the forefront and it's interesting to me. Listen, Lauren, I get annoyed with it too,
but I realize I'm mainly associated with Vanner Pump rules and that's what it is. For some reason,
it's frustrating to me because I feel like, I feel like you're one of those girls that it's
really easy to judge a book by its cover. And then you realize when you get to know you that there's
all these other layers and you're running all these businesses and doing all these things. And it's
annoying to me for some reason that people don't take me seriously. They don't see the work.
Because I know how much goes into what you're doing. Like, I mean, I don't know the reality TV show
part. I've never done that. But you know everything else. Yes. And it's a lot. Yeah.
And so I'm just interested in, I guess one thing I'm interested in is that you've been podcasting for
six years. And now all of a sudden, everyone's in the space. You've got every single bachelor and
bachelor at doing a pot. Like, what, like, do you ever step back and be like, I kind of was the
frontier pioneer here? Oh, I knew I was at the, I got in at the right time, like, really
hardcore at the right time, got in. Again, and maybe this is also why I've managed to, like,
kind of stay on top. I do have good timing with things. Like, podcasts came out the right.
time I was like the villain on Vaynerpump Rules at the right time. I mean, I wrote a book at the
right time about the right thing. Like it's all been like, I feel like timing has been very
important in my life. And so yes, can we just talk about the fact that every bachelor does have a
podcast? Yeah, it's true. It's true. It isn't, it is, it is, it does piss me off. You know what I tell
people, it does. I'll tell you what I tell people about podcasts is obviously like some experience
with that now.
People are looking at it now is this like, oh, it's this medium.
So it's just like, oh, Instagram.
I got to jump in.
And I always tell people, like, unless you're willing to do this for a hundred episodes
for free.
For free and you're not doing it to make money, then yes, it's the right medium.
But if you're here to make a quick check, I mean, you know how hard it is.
It took me about eight months to start making money.
The first six months of podcasting, I made $800.
Oh, yeah.
No.
I mean, we were with another network for a year.
And it was like the revenue was not even enough to pay the gas back and forth.
Diego. Like it's, people don't understand that. They don't realize it's like, it's like, it's not a quick
money grab. And it's also something that's not sustainable if you really don't like doing it.
Because you have to be excited to talk to people. Yeah, you have to want to do it every single week.
And you have to be prepared to be committed. Because if you like go off every other week or
yeah, maybe I'll do it or maybe, well, no, you have to fucking commit. Consistence. I mean,
it's, that's the hardest part is like, there's no, I mean, since we've started doing this,
there's, I always talk about there's not been one missed week or one missed episode ever.
Like for any reason. And it's like, if you don't have.
If you're not going to do that, you shouldn't do it.
Yeah.
It just doesn't work.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, imagine if you just do Instagram, like, I'll be, I'll do this once
and then I'll come back a few months.
It's like, it's just, there's no point.
Yeah.
And now they're saying that we have to get on TikTok.
Wait, I know.
Again, so my agents told me that too.
You have to be on TikTok.
You have to get on TikTok.
And I'm like, are you fucking kidding?
That's just one extra thing that I'm going to have to do during the day.
Like, no.
Here's what I would tell you to do.
Go consume the content on TikTok.
Like, just sit there for a week and just watch it.
and you'll start to kind of get it.
What it is is it's nothing about pimping yourself out or your brand out.
It's not like a place to distribute content.
It's a place to entertain people.
It's all about entertainment.
Don't you think it will then eventually turn into pimping yourself out?
Yes, it will, of course.
Like I've seen like Heidi Pratt and Spencer Pratt like with their crystals.
So that's their promotion.
Yeah, I do think it like, I don't know.
I think that that's what I saw on Instagram.
how the youth uses it, like how the 19-year-olds are using it.
But I don't, the youth is not my demographic right now.
That's true, but at the same time, you have to go where attention goes and where attention's
going is it's off Instagram because so many people know that it's bullshit ads.
Well, yes, but also, like, if you don't like that medium and you know you're going to
never do it and you hate it, like, maybe just don't do it.
Yeah, that's true.
Wait, you know what, I might try it out and become addicted.
It's just, I think it's overwhelming to think of like a yet another thing.
we have to add on our list of shit to do in a day.
You got to get like a young 19 year old that understands like what's coming up and just have
them help you.
Yeah.
That's what goes on in this role.
Like only young people because we're aging out, right?
Lauren and I are done.
Yeah.
I found that when I hired a 21 year old and I found that was so good for the business because
she like breathes youth into what I do.
Right.
And it's not about college or I don't give a fuck where they went to college.
Like it's being a practitioner of social media.
They're young.
Right.
And so to have them come in and like breathe youth has been helpful.
But you do have to probably get on TikTok.
I agree with your agent.
Fucking A.
And you can do your new last name.
Are you changing your last name?
I think so.
I think I'm just going to, I'm going to change.
My full name is Nastassia.
So like, I think I'm just going to like make it easy Stacey Strader Clark.
Ooh, that's a good last name too.
Yeah.
Stacey Clark.
Stassie Clark is good as well.
You know, I could just cut it all out.
I like a hyphen though.
You do?
I can't decide.
I mean, it'd be really easy just to write Stossie Clark.
You're lucky it's Clark and not some like, outlandish last name.
That's a good last name.
Yeah.
You know, I like Bostic too.
If I didn't like your last name, I wouldn't fucking change it.
Oh, yeah.
If there was a bad last name, definitely not taking it.
Well, you know, you're legally changed now at this point.
No backing out.
I already got you.
I anchor babyed you.
Got your name changed.
You're locked in.
Yeah.
You know.
You know, you never know.
There's not a lot of escape now left for her.
I was talking to my Pilates teacher today and I was like, you know, things.
You're so boogie.
I was talking to my Pilates teacher.
teachers and I...
Such an overheard L.A.
It really is.
While I had a face mask on, actually.
Oh, my God.
I told her I was like, women, like, back in the 50s would, like, be at home cooking and, like,
waiting for their man to come home.
And now women are bringing home half the bacon.
So what the fuck is the point of you?
Of me?
There's not a lot of point to me.
Yeah.
We're bringing home half the bacon now.
Yes.
I tricked you.
I already told you.
I ain't your baby to do.
Wait till you have to do all of this.
Fuck.
This is a lot.
I know.
But how often do you listen to?
Beyonce's
girls when she's like
what is it
smart enough to
whatever
she has to make a baby
and then
and then get back to business
I literally listen to that
song all the time
God I wish I was a better rapper
I need to listen to that song
you don't listen to that song
no I mean I didn't know the song
Oh smart enough to bear your children
then get back to business
That was so white
That was pretty white
It was also pretty good
That's pretty good
No, but honestly, like, what's the point? Like, you could just get a vibrator.
Lauren, I already told you. I tricked you. There is no point to me. You're locked in now, though. It's too late.
Okay, well, if we break up, I might just pull a Miley Cyrus.
Where are you going? You never know.
That's, you have a lot of options, probably.
Okay, so what is next for you, your live tour? Like, tell us all the details, when the show's out, like, what's happening? You're writing a new book.
Yes, writing my second book. Going on tour again at the end of February. I literally don't know my dates.
I mean, I looked at him and there was like a thousand, so there's no way you should know.
Yeah, if you go to Stasi Shroeder.com slash tour, you can see if I'm coming to your city or town or anywhere near that.
Yeah, I'm just trying to power through right now and like survive.
Well, people got to go see your show because I have a couple of people from the team.
They went this weekend.
We wanted to go, but we were.
Well, I totally understand that.
They said it was great.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
And what about the next book?
Are you currently writing it?
Yes. So I've been writing it and I had to take two months off because of the tour. So now I have to get back into that mindset again, which is like, oh, listen, I used to be addicted to Adderall and I've been sober of it for over a year and the thought of like having to write this book without that. This is literally like, Adderall is like the worst, the worst. No offense if you take it. But I was addicted to it. And so now like it's like a daunting thought of like writing a book without help.
if I don't ask you this question, the audience would be mad.
You brought up Adderall.
How do you stay so slim and, like, tiny?
I try to do intermittent fasting as much as I can.
Like, today I'm only going to have, like, I haven't eaten yet.
I'm going to have one meal today.
Like, it just, but it depends.
That's not healthy for everyone.
So, like, I'm not out here trying to give.
It actually is good, though.
We've had a lot of experts on that are obsessed with it.
Well, whenever I say that, people are like, I can't believe you're promoting this.
I'm like, well, there are a lot of religions that fast.
Like, there are a lot of people who fast.
So, like, I'm also, like, not a fucking health coach.
Like, I'm just telling you what I do.
But when I'm traveling all the time or working, it's really hard to just, like, stick to any one thing in particular.
So I just literally have to try and make the smartest choice wherever I am.
So you drink your Celsius in the morning.
I'm assuming you do coffee.
No, I hate coffee.
No.
How do you have energy, Celsius?
Celsius.
That's not iced tea.
I mean, Adderall.
Yeah.
Well.
No.
Coffee. No, I don't like coffee. It also makes me way shakier than like any like for some reason caffeine
affects me hardcore and like I can't put on my false eyelashes if like I'm shaking. I can't believe you
don't drink coffee. That's gnarly. And then you wait until like five or four to eat. I mean,
it just depends on the day. Like I try to wait as long as I can until I feel like, okay, it's time to have a meal.
But like also when I'm like doing the show, we're drinking during our show. Yeah, how do you, I feel like you always like have wine and you stay so
skinny. I thank you. I don't feel that healthy right now. I don't feel like I'm at my best.
Like, I'm ready to, like, have two months at home to get back on, like, working out and, like,
eating normal and not drinking a lot because, like, touring is, like, just a bunch of shit food and
alcohol. What's your alcoholic beverage of choice? It was an apparel spritz. We're shifting that
for the spring tour to be healthier, tequila on the rocks. Okay, I'm shifting that too when I give birth.
think the wine's over for me. I think there's so much everyone says that like it's so hard to like work
off the weight of wine that too much sugar. Yeah. I mean, I think I'm going to switch to tequila on
the rocks with the I found this lime juice off thrive that's like just lime no concentrate and I'm
just going to pour that in it with the lemon juice. Yeah, that's the way to go. And you'll drink less.
I mean, how easy it is to just like drink fucking two bottles of wine. I mean like you don't even
realize you're doing it. I know. I just love I love the act of like opening a bottle. I do too. The quark hearing the
Oh, the sound is like orgasmic and the big glass.
I know.
The whole, I fully feel you.
And listen, I say that I'm just going to drink tequila starting 2020.
I doubt I'll actually stick to it.
It's so hard.
Yeah.
That's my advice.
Okay.
Book, podcast, or resource that you would recommend to our audience that has brought you value.
It could be anything.
Could be a Netflix show.
Any kind of resource.
LOR.
It's a random one.
It's called lore.
LOR.
LOR.
Yeah.
What is that?
They basically just like tell you stories about, like, it could be ghost things.
It could be mystical things.
It could be something about history.
It's like, it's tales.
And like they just do very, it's like specific research about like specific things that have
happened all over the world.
It's really hard to actually explain what it is because they cover so much.
But like that is a good one because it's like not something that I'm typically thinking about
or watching, you know.
This is your meditation.
I've noticed that I think you and Michael's meditation is to watch fantasy.
I think it's therapeutic.
I mean,
I love fantasy.
Yeah.
Well,
I just disconnect from the world.
You go to Star Wars tomorrow at 8.
I'll be at Pilates with a mask on.
I like going to those movies alone.
I don't want to.
I just looked at Bo's Instagram and he's like going to movies alone are the best.
And I'm like,
that is a snub right there.
Well,
a public snub.
Well,
it's,
you get a go in there.
You get a nerd out,
you know.
Nobody has to watch me by just like,
you don't want to see me in that theater.
I'm not over all sorts of discussing things.
You do, yeah.
Where can everyone find you,
Pimp your Instagram out and your website and everything?
And you're JustFab.
Like, tell us about that really quick before you go.
Where can they find that?
Well, justfab.com slash Stasi.
Honestly, everything is at Stasi Shruder.
Stasi Shruder.com.
Soon to be Clark.
Soon to be Clark.
Oh my God.
That means I have to change my handle and shit.
Yeah, that's going to be.
I think about that every day.
No, you should keep the handle
and then just change the button
because people know you is that way.
Yeah, I think so.
do. All right. Follow her, you guys. Thank you so much for coming on. Come back anytime.
Next time, though, I think we should have a roundtable with Jackie. I would love that.
Or Taylor. I would just want to just sit there in silence and watch you guys all talk.
It's easy to set up. You guys are also talented.
You know, they'd only took a thousand cumulative episodes for this to happen.
So hopefully we don't have to wait another thousand.
And also, guys, I did Stasi's podcast a couple weeks ago, a pregnancy rain.
This was literally a few days before you announced you were pregnant.
And I was like, no.
You know?
Were you like, why, why is she so fluffy?
No.
You were just in sweats.
And I'm like, and I think I was in sweats too.
And so I'm like, it was not anything you just were wearing oversized clothes.
I was fluffy.
It could not fucking tell.
It was so crazy.
When you announced that, I was like, where the fuck did this just come from?
No.
With the most epic photo ever, I'm so jealous of you that you thought of that first.
You can do something like that, though.
I can't.
You can't top that.
You can't top that.
You know what?
I bet you guys could.
of something good. You know what she did? There's a background. She said that one day she was going to take
that photo. She's like, I'll do it when I'm accepting a ward. I'm like, what kind of fucking award are you talking about?
Like I imagine and myself like blogger of the year. That was okay. All right. It was perfect. Thanks for coming on.
Thank you. Wait, don't go. Stasi is giving away three of her books. Okay. They're going to be signed copies.
And all you have to do is tell us your favorite part of this episode on my latest Instagram at the Skinny Confidential for a
to win next level basic. I have it in my office. It's super cute, super Instagrammy, and I know
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