The Bossticks - Suebelle Robbins On Unshakeable Confidence, How To Stand Out, Timeless Style, & Owning Every Room You Enter

Episode Date: June 20, 2025

#858: Join us as we sit down with Suebelle Robbins – a beloved style icon & social media personality, also known as Suebelle from Palm Beach. Celebrated for her timeless fashion, elegant beauty tips, & daily outfit inspiration! As a standout in Palm Beach's vibrant social scene, Suebelle gets real about classic fashion that never goes out of style, the beauty of confidence through personal style, her take on relationships, & what life is really like behind the curated charm of Palm Beach culture.   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Suebelle Robbins click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential For a better choice and peace of mind in your home, shop The Skinny Confidential Non-Toxic Toilet Paper at http://shopskinnyconfidential.com.    This episode is sponsored by Smart Mouth Never have bad breath again! Find SmartMouth at Walgreens, Walmart, and Amazon or visit http://smartmouth.com/skinny to snag a special discount on your next SmartMouth purchase.   This episode is sponsored by Astral Tequila House Marg Summer is here. Time to stock up! Go to http://astraltequila.com to find Astral near you - and don't forget the limes! Please Enjoy Responsibly. Do not forward to anyone under 21. ASTRAL Tequila. 40% Alc/Vol. Diageo, New York, NY.   This episode is sponsored by Bobbie  Bobbie is offering an additional 10% off on your purchase with the code TSC. Visit http://hibobbie.com to find the Bobbie formula that fits your journey.   This episode is sponsored by Taylor Farms To learn more visit http://TaylorFarms.com.   This episode is sponsored by DailyLook For 50% off your order, head to http://DailyLook.com and use code SKINNY.   Produced by Dear Media  

The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.

Where did you get this personality? Because the internet has fallen in love with your personality. When you look way back on your childhood, was it something that you got from your parents? Did you come out this way? From both my parents, my father was in sales, and we moved around a lot because he kept getting better territories. And, you know, salesman of the year, sadly, he was killed by a drunk driver when he was 33. In New Bronsville's, we lived in San Antonio at the time. And then my mother was from Rhode Island, very New England, but hysterical, you know, very sarcastic wit, which I always say I haven't had an

original thought in my head in about 50 years because I retain, if something's funny, I use it. As you should. I collect comedian like tips and tricks and sentences all the time. I have it in my notes app. Did you know that, Michael? I do. I do know that. I came up with this phrase, don't CFC me What does that mean? Copy fucking cat CFC

No no No I'm gonna say that to my husband Because guess what he does No no no Yes he takes my jokes He rebrands them As his own And then presents them like they're his idea

I don't think that's true It's true I think that's very poor Yeah It's not let her fool you You just know it for five minutes No trust me I got her number.

Trust me. Yeah, yeah. Trust me. He completely rebrands him like his their own. But the fucked up part is he thinks it's actually truly his idea. I would say that I refine. Lauren has a difficulty with the delivery because she jumps to the punchline before she tells the story. And I'm like, so I'm quicker and wittier.

So I jump a little quicker. Whatever you got to. Keep up. Sometimes you can say, well, I was thinking about that and you just stole it out of my brain. That's a good. good way to get around. You steal a lot of jokes. Being a CFCer. So have you always had a point of view like you had since you were a little girl? Oh, definitely. What were you like? Very outgoing. Loved moving around. Like I would do something like chewing gum. And the teacher would say,

well, you can't do that. And I said, oh, I didn't know that. Of course I knew you couldn't chew So I was always, you know, playing like the dumb bunny, but I was really very bright. Yeah, well, I had a sister 15 months younger, and she hated moving. And she would always get in trouble because she'd call people from where we had lived before. And not me. I mean, I was a new girl in town and played that to the hilt. And this is a little bit like that. You know, you've got a new audience and strangers come up.

I used to keep a little journal if somebody would give me a big compliment, and I'd write it in the journal. And if I was a little down or depressed, I'd get that little journal out, and I'll say, oh, the nice lady on the bus told me I was pretty. Now, this is like I get swarmed. I mean, I feel like the Beatles in the 60s. So do you still have the journal where you keep all the compliments from social media and in person? I didn't bring it with me, but I do have it.

You know what you should do? You guys should do a Sue Bell compliment journal. And everyone should be able to buy this very Palm Beach-esque journal where they can all write compliments that people give them. I feel like that would sell out. It could have your logo on and everything. Well, we're doing an autobiography. Oh, I'm sorry, it's a memoir. That seems like for people when they've died, this is...

Listen, there's people in their early 30s that write memoirs, and I always find that strange. You've said that. You've said that you don't want to write any kind of biography or anything until you're older. Yeah, don't you think it's strange to write a memoir at 30 years old? Unless you know you're about to kick the bucket. Yeah, right. Three weeks to live. No, I enjoy talking about different parts of what I've done because that's who you are.

You know, all the experiences. You know, I taught first grade in a Catholic school in Boston. And I made $80 a week. So I became a Playboy Bunny at night. So both had great experiences. Wait, wait, wait. You were a first grade teacher and a Playboy Bunny at night? That's amazing.

I don't know if you can get away with that anymore. Well, nobody knew. What if you were like teaching someone's son and then you saw their dad at night? Oh, no. This was in a suburb way far from Boston. And what was it like being at the, were you at the Playboy Club? Yeah. What was it like?

Tell us every detail of that. Well, I was from Texas. Okay. And I'd never seen, I mean, there were black bunnies and Chinese bunnies and like truck driver bunnies that would like take their uniform and pull it up. But there was, it was interesting. I only did it maybe a year and a half, but I had fun. Carson really likes the truck driver bunnies over there.

That was his thing. Wait, so are the bunnies like going on dates with the guys in the club? Oh, no, that was a no-no. And naive me, well, there wasn't anybody I would have gone out with. But I found out a lot of the bunnies were, you know, having affairs with patrons, you know, key holders. And I only worked on the cocktail band part. You could go upstairs and make a lot of money and work in the dining room. But the bunnies had to have about five plates on their arms, you know, steaks to deliver them. And they made a ton of money. But I was scared to have all the

plates on my arm. So I just stayed in the rock and roll part. Did you meet Hugh Hefner? No, in Boston the only way they would let them have a club was to make it a corporation. But he did give us Christmas gifts. He gave me some electric rollers. I thought you were going to say something else electric. No. But at Christmas, I was a door bunny and they gave me a green satin bunny suit with maribou, a fur on it. It was so beautiful. And everybody thought they were giving you tips, but it went into, unless somebody put a $20 bill in your hand, it all went to the house. So people thought they were tipping you and you never saw anything. But it was fun. It was a good experience. And when I was there, I met a politician who was a state rep. And I thought he was like a Kennedy because he talked like a Kennedy. And Kennedy. hair and Brooks Brothers suits. And he brought me to Palm Beach. That's how I was first. And we went to the Colony Hotel after dinner. All the old ladies were beautiful. Nobody was fat. And I said,

I'm going to live here someday. So, okay, you are known as a Palm Beach icon. There's obviously now been a television show about Palm Beach. For the person that's never been to Palm Beach and doesn't get what Palm Beach is. How would you describe Palm Beach? Explain it to a blind kindergartner. Okay. Palm Beach is a beautiful manicured little five streets, beautiful houses, everything's pink and green, golf courses all over, beautiful hotels like the breakers and the Colony Hotel. And there are three bridges, the Northern Bridge, the Southern Bridge, and the Middle Bridge. And they all, like the Southern Bridge is Marlargo, where the Trump estate is. And I live in the Middle Bridge, which is right, I call it Midtown.

And the Northern Bridge is where the best of, we have this shopping center, and it used to just be like, then St. Ambrose came, the restaurant, and Palm Beach Grill was there. and now you can barely get in there. There was an old theater where they used to have off-Broadway shows in the 50s and 60s, and it was just terrible. They couldn't, nobody could do anything with it. So they put all this money, and they're redoing the theater. So you have the beautiful shopping center that's got Gucci, it's got everybody you can imagine.

And the theater's big. done. I have a friend just local people, self-made, and her husband's doing all the windows. I mean, I had four windows put in my condo, and it was 50,000, so you can imagine how well they're going to be doing, doing the windows on the theater. Is everything there just like so expensive because it's Palm Beach? Well, a smoothie at the airport here is $12, and it's only like 10 in Palm Beach. So, oh, so it's, It's not crazy. Austin's having a boom of its own. When you went to Palm Beach for the first time, did you know I'm living here?

Oh, yes. So immediately it was like it was synergistic and you loved it right away and it had the appeal back then. It's beautiful. It was how I felt when I went to Madison Avenue or the Plaza Hotel for the first time. You felt at home. This is where I'm going to be. So when you meet the politician, did you date the politician? Did you date the politician?

Oh, yes. I stopped being a bunny. It was sort of sad because his mother hated me on site. I don't know why, but he was the only boy. He was Jewish, but his sisters all married non-Jewish, so that wasn't an issue. I think she just, for some reason, she didn't like me. I'll give you an example. I stayed friends with his sister.

and when I got married, his sister Jane said, Mommy, Sue Bell got married, and his mother said Sue Bell, who? Oh. I have something to confess. What? I never understood that kind of mother-in-law, but now that I have a son,

I don't know. I might be that kind of mother-in-law. No, you won't. I whisper in his ear every night. He's living with his mom for the rest of his life. Oh, my God. We're going to raise a little baby-in-law. deal, we're not careful. It's really hard when you have a little cute ham of a son and then they

have to like go date someone. I can't even imagine. Maybe she was just obsessed with her son like I am. We're not raising Oedipus over here. No, he's edipus. My son's out. No, but he's getting out of the house. You can't say don't date him. You got to just let him work it out. I know. I got to let him work it out. That'll make him go more. At what point did you meet the love of your life who was your husband? Oh, I've had a couple loves of my life. Okay, I love the... Tell us about all of them. I always say your heart is like a hotel.

And it has a lot of rooms and it has a couple of suites. Oh, my God. And, no, the Boston state politician, he was really special. I got in the travel business. I needed a summer job for the teaching. And I got in the travel business and I took big group. to Switzerland and Puerto Rico and France. And then I got promoted where I lived in the country.

And I was living in Honolulu at the Ila Kai Hotel. I saw this guy on the balcony. He was in the room right next to mine. And I said, hello. And I always said I was Romeo and he was Juliet because he was with the newspaper. It was called a joint venture. His company, USA Today, and the Honolulu paper had a joint venture. So he was in town for that. And his company was based in Rochester, New York, which is very pretty, but a little provincial.

And I became like a little movie star there. I mean, they were used to, you know, Rochester, was Kodak and, you know, small town. And it was fun. I had great beautiful houses, had great friends. I still took a few trips with groups since I'd been in that business. I loved being in Rochester. And he had two little girls, so I became a stepmother. That was fun. So I decided that's enough. I don't need to have any kids in my own. So I've been the stepmother. I've loved it, But then I've also had the stepmother blues, you know, when you're feeling like the nanny. That's not great. The stepmother blues?

Yes. So I've never been a stepmother. It makes you feel like you're a nanny? Like you're a nanny. And the ex-wife is out in Rio de Janeiro having a big time. And you're a... That's specific. You're the nanny.

But anyway, we had a very friendly divorce. Then I moved back to Boston where I had lived. and meant the real love of my life, who was in the financial business. He was an institutional broker. He didn't sell stocks to people. He sold them to institutions. Just had a great time. Boston was wonderful. We got the place in Newport. You know, when he said, I made too much money and I don't have any deductions, got the place in Palm Beach. Another wonderful thing about Palm Beach, besides you had the ocean on one side, and then you have the inlet waterway. And along the waterway is a beautiful bike path, walking path, lake trail, they call it.

And, you know, it's just a wonderful place to be. Sadly, he had a stroke and was paralyzed. So we were married 38 years. Wow. And 34 were fabulous. but the last four years was very sad for him. It was sad because he had a stroke in November, and in December he was supposed to get a knee replacement

because he was a big tennis player. But everybody loved him, and he made me laugh all the time. He danced in the morning, and he sang to me, and I see F.C. his jokes all the time because he was just hilarious. So my trick for marriage is he has to love you just a little bit more than you love him. Agreed. And he has to make you laugh. How are you doing with that, Michael?

I think she laughs pretty good. I do laugh. That's it. I probably love her a little bit more. I'm being honest. Yeah. Since I was 12, I was chasing her. Oh, I love that.

She took a while to say. You loved me a lot more than I loved you, and now it's, it's, I'm a little, I went up a little bit. She is a pain in the ass, so I've got to be honest. She wants what she wants. You want someone that's black and white or color? We do laugh a lot together. That's for sure. We do laugh a lot.

You got to be in on the joke. You know, my hobby is introducing people. I have 11 marriages. And I started in college. You have 11. You've brokered the deals. Okay. That's her hobby.

Isn't that great? I love it. Some died. Some got divorced. Some are miserable. But. I don't think you fit in there. But there's nothing like that great feeling when, you know, you've made two people happy.

Marriage is, and I'm realizing this, like, the older I get, it's, if it's not right for me, it's wrong. You got to, it's got to be, it's got to be right. There's a real finesse to it, you know, like, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're, if You're miserable in the marriage. What's the point? Yeah. And it is supposedly forever. Woo.

I'm going to be honest. I don't think I could do forever if it was. I couldn't do it. I know some people like will stick it through for the kids. I'm not a stick. I've never really got the logic of sticking it through for the kids because the kids are around an environment. If you're miserable in that environment and the parents aren't happy, like what's, I don't

think that's good. Yeah, they can pick up on. I think one of the reasons I decided not. have kids is because I grew up with a rich Protestant father's family and the mother's Catholic side. And they argued about religion all the time. It's sad because he was only 33 and they were starting to work it out when he was killed. But I remember as being very young. How old were you when that happened? 13. Wow. That's very traumatic. Well, it gets worse because the next year my mother married his best friend who I adored. He'd signed my autograph book when I was 11,

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I think maybe one of the things that people find so attractive about you on the internet is that you have had, you know, adversity and you're so resourable. and you're like a spitfire and you have this point of view and it's inspiring for me to like I love watching all your stories. It's you can feel that you've had grit and you can feel that you have depth and different layers that probably comes from when you were little. Thank you. Yeah. That's a lovely compliment. I mean, you can feel you can feel when people follow you there's a real honesty about you and it's attractive.

I get a wonderful comment. compliment that I'm authentic and I think that what you just gave me is a definition of authenticity. I just want to know if you're going to write my compliment in your compliment book. Yes, yes, and you'll sign it. I want to be featured in the compliment book. And you can give me some photos to put in there. I have all different kinds of ones, especially at this stage of pregnancy. Oh, you're beautiful. Ali McGrath. Has anybody ever told you that? No one's ever told me that. Okay, well. And I just read her autobiography. That's a good compliment.

It's a very nice compliment. Thank you. So when you are in Palm Beach after being on social media and being this public figure and you're walking around and you're going to St. Ambrose, do people come up to you all the time? Yes. So you're like, you're literally a celebrity there. I have this neighbor. I just moved in about a year ago. We got it all fixed up. She's from North Carolina.

She's a big decorator. And she went, Seville! Is that Sue Bell? And I get that a lot, not as dramatic as Francie, but yeah. And restaurants and people, and can I have a picture? Because my sister loves you. They never say they love you, but they have a brother or a sister, you know, my aunt. We got that today at the airport.

It's always fun. And about 15 years ago, I slipped at a car wash and I broke my ankle. My, yeah. Wrist. Wrist, not ankle. And that's why I always wear a bracelet. And that night, I was very depressed. And we were at the beach club.

And George Hamilton was in the buffet line. And I've always, I was so crazy about him. I said, oh, I voted. for you on Dancing with the Stars, which is really a jerky thing. I mean, I never did that before, but, and he made a movie about Hank Williams, a country western singer. And so I was, plus he was gorgeous. And I voted for you.

And then he goes, oh, hi, Ashley, how are you? It's George. And ever since, I mean, ever since then, I have always been so sweet to anybody that recognized me because so he was sweeter he was not oh he was dismissal he totally blew me off and went to my friend big mistake george hamilton broken wrist feeling sad oh big mistake and i voted and she voted for you george hamilton that is a big mistake i hope he's listening when he listens to this show which he's a regular listener he'll be not going to like this now i'm friends with his son who goes out with one of my friends yeah and you're the mayor of palm beach so i wouldn't fuck around with you

No. What do you think that the mistake that women my age are making right now when it comes to dating, meaning from 20 to 40? What do you see as a mistake? Well, you know what? The big mistake is coming off needy, you know? I think you might be, I think this is my spirit animal. I literally knew who's going to say that.

Did you? Yeah, talk more about being needy. You know, he didn't call me and do you think I should call him back? And is it okay to text and, you know, just chill. You know, the therapist told me, you are enough. And that's what I think women should keep telling themselves or get a needlepoint pillow with, you are enough. That would sell out if you made that pillow.

It would. You know, I also think, and I feel like you know, this, you're the queen of this probably. Men want to hunt. And if they want to call you and they want to text you, they will pick up the phone and do it. So instead of, what's the point of waiting around? Well, Palm Beach is a little difficult. You know, men die before women, sadly. And so there are some few men around town. And they're, they're creepy. Oh, they are. And they're treated like Brad Pitt because there are very few cool guys around. I tell everybody that I think they should go on social media.

I mean, you can have a cup of coffee with anybody. Don't waste your time on a dinner date, you know, because you know 15 minutes into it if they're a jerk or not. I agree. I agree. The dinner dates too long. Meaning like go to the coffee first because you can tell quickly, you don't have to spend a whole night at dinner.

Absolutely. I've heard some women say that they won't go. And listen, I haven't been single for a long time. But like I have young, I work with a lot of women, I have sisters. I've heard a lot of say like, won't go out with the guy if he won't take them to dinner. Oh, that's interesting. If I was single, I would not want to go to dinner.

That's, it's too long in the tooth. No. I want, I can all know right away, like you said. I think a cocktail is appropriate, but I, I love a hard out. That's my favorite thing, a hard out. What's that? A hard out is like, I can meet you at six, but I have a hard out at 6. I have to leave at 645.

Oh, absolutely. That's great. Because then I have optionality. If I like you, I'll stay on the date. But if I don't, I have a hard out. And ooh, I can't go a minute over 645 because that hard out is just so hard. It sounded a little satchual what you were saying. Maybe.

It always always. What mistake do you think men are making right now? Thinking they're too cool. Yeah. You know, just not being. honest. Like being cheaty? Yeah.

Yeah. That's not cool. That's not cool. There's a lot of cheating going on, huh? I guess there is, but I always say until you've walked in somebody's shoes, you shouldn't judge. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying have dates with married guys. It's cool.

But, you know, there are situations where divorce is expensive. Yeah. You know, and you don't know what's going on. I don't know. I don't think it's easy. I think you two are blessed. I was blessed. You know, it really is if you find the right person and treasure them. I think it's probably very expensive in Palm Beach to get divorced. Probably. Yeah. So maybe there are situationships that work. Yeah. I have a friend she died, she was so funny, she'd say, don't say somebody's wealthy. Say they're rich. She'd tell me all this sort of gossipy stuff, but she'd say, just don't tell them that I told you.

She had an affair with this man. This was in South Hampton. They would go to cocktail parties together. Everybody knew about it. And then her husband dated, you know, it was in the 60s. So I don't know. Everyone's different. That until you've walked in somebody's shoes.

I love that. It's empathy. Speaking of parties, I hear about these parties in Palm Beach. What's the wildest party you've ever been to in Palm Beach? What are the parties in Palm Beach? Tell us about that. Well, I do know this girl. It's like a jillionaire.

And every year she has a big party at the Everglades Club. And she must have like 200 people. It's just over the top. This club is gorgeous flowers, the food. One year it was, we all wore turbans. I don't know, she had everybody wear these beautiful silk turbans. I've held on to my turban in case I ever needed. But they're, I don't know, when I lived in Rochester in the 80s and early 90s, it was sort of a dinner party kind of thing.

And I don't know if it's COVID or what, but one thing they do, there's a place called the Colony Club. I did do a meet and greet there that was really fun. And on Sunday night they have bingo and Monday night they have trivia. Michael loves trivia. Yeah. That to me is a great place to go. Oh, and on Thursday night they have gay night. So, you know, it's really fun.

And it's a hotel that's been there since 1926, I think. They used to have a framed picture, a framed check that the Duke of Windsor wrote for a $150. He had stayed there for a week. Is there a lot of celebrities and royalty that come through Palm Beach? Well, we have Stelester Stallone. And I sort of, what do you call it, when you track somebody. Stalk them? Yeah, I sort of stalked this girl.

She was in the fruits, and I stalked her over to the baloney area. And I said, I just have to tell you, you are so beautiful. because people will say that to me and it's a nice thing to do. And it was Stavester Stallone's wife. And she said, oh, thank you. And then I saw her again and she said, oh, yes, we've met before. So that was sort of sweet. But yeah, because of the horseback thing, the Wellington is a big horse area.

It's about 30 minutes outside of Palm Beach. And it's the horse capital of the world, which I didn't really. know about. So we get like Mayor Bloomberg's daughter and Bruce Springsteen's kid. It's kind of like becoming a place too, I feel like for younger people too. Oh, well, because of COVID, people left New York. They rented in Palm Beach. They fell in love with it. And then they bought. I think that's cool though. It's the juxtaposition of both of both. Well, Mara Lago is down there now, too. So it's becoming like the second capital of the country because of everything that's going on with the administration.

A lot of people are down there. And a lot of people are buying homes. You know, the real estate market has, well, you know, my little penthouse story. A lot of people are wanting to live. It's the quality of life. The bad thing that's happened is it's so hard to find a good school because, you know, everybody has kids. and there aren't that many schools. Aren't they working on bringing more schools down there now, though?

I thought I read an article. A couple, like Bill Coke has a school. And let me see. Well, they have the day school, which is a darling little school. Everybody that grew up in Palm Beach went to the day school. But they only have so many places for the kids. There's a big public school. But that's become an issue.

Of course, I don't have kids, thank God. But, you know, people have said, we have a friend that has a facial place. And she wants her daughter to go to this particular school, Catholic school, just couldn't get in. You know, it was too crowded. What do you think is the best tips for when it comes to presenting yourself as a woman? You talked about the loafer. What are your, like, beauty secrets and tips? look your very best at all times.

Oh my gosh, you and Michael should hang out. That's Michael's tip too. Wear makeup. Okay? I love these tips. Lose the black. If you're going to the gym, which is great, you should stay thin or as thin as you can, go home and take a shower and put on a pretty outfit.

Oh, I have to take a shower after the gym. Yeah, sorry. It's a lot of work, Sue Bell. I'm going to record this and play it. I'm going to leave it for her. A lot of work. Come on. You want me to take a shower after I go to the gym?

You would not believe how awful some of these women look in the grocery store. Our grocery store is like a cocktail party. You see everybody you know. And I see women looking just like dogs. Really. And they have great jewelry and great clothes, but they only wear them to these stupid luncheons. The luncheons are...

will kill you. You have to be there like at 1130. Everybody's overdressed. They really just want money. There's always, you know, walking around, get more money, more money. And they go on until about three in the afternoon. The day is just shot. And you're drinking probably. So you're like exhausted by three. Yeah. And all you want to do is take a nap. But it's so boring, I eat a whole bread basket by myself because it's like so but that's why do you why do you go because they ask me sometimes you have and i have some wonderful people are so sweet it's like they're happy to see you but what you're saying is that the supermarket is an opportunity to dress up to like maybe do a little schmoozy schmooze yeah there's a cute oh he's

getting older, but who isn't a plastic surgeon. And every time I see him, he said, you look so beautiful. And it's like, oh, you know, guys would say that. They wouldn't say that if you go in with your sneakers and your black lulus on. So you're, you don't like the color black. Lou Llemon. Or you don't like the color black to wear. No. I noticed you're in Navy. Yeah, I love Navy. I love chocolate, chocolate and pale blue. But if you're working out, black is cool, but don't spend the day in black. Is it because you feel like it looks like you're like working at like, like, why don't you like the color black? I've heard this from a lot of people. It's sort of drab. It's not flattering on everybody. I mean, when I'm in, lived in New York, I lived on, oh, I didn't tell you

happiest time in my life. We, we bought a penthouse, not a penthouse. apartment at 891 Park Avenue between 78 and 79. I like that area. Oh, I loved it. And Richard would stay in Palm Beach to play tennis. And I would go back to New York and take acting lessons. But I could never remember my lines. That's why this pod stuff is okay.

I can just talk. But, yeah, in New York, you wear a lot of black. So you're just fatigued of black. Yeah, it's tiring. And I always tell people, okay, if you want to wear white with black, don't wear a white shirt and black pants because they'll think you're a caterer. Is that what you're wearing? No, chocolate. Oh, he's wearing chocolate.

That's my boy. That's your answer boy. You're wearing chocolate. You're in black red. She's pregnant. I can't wear white right now. No. No, I can't wear white guys.

I'll look like the marshmallow. They stop at your face. face. Really. Okay, just let's stop right here. Yeah. Gorgeous. Okay.

Teeth. Thank you. You did well, Michael. Yeah. Well, I will say, I'm happy. You tracked her, right? I tracked her for a long time. I was like, God, it was a long time, she bel.

Long time. Well, that's what it's all about. Yeah, that is what it's all about. That is. How did you keep it spicy in a marriage that was, you said 38 years? Oh, gosh. Well, we had a rule for a while. We had our 10 second kiss.

What's that? Because I just like buzz them. I thought you were going to say 10 seconds, something else. 10 second. What? I thought he was going to say something else. A 10 second lay. A kiss.

Gone but not forgotten, right? A 10 second kiss. What does that mean? Well, that means you have to keep kissing for 10 seconds. Because you would just go quick and then. Yeah. and and I would say, hand me that. He'd say, please is a very nice word.

And I'd say, well, I was going to say thank you. But, you know, like having, treating them like you would treat somebody you were trying to impress. Oh, that's a lot of work. Yeah, I know it is. But it's a lot of work. But so is being happy. I know. You know what?

I'm going to insist we do a 10 second kiss. I'm going to insist that you use basic manners then. Okay. That's the deal. That's marriage. It's the deal. Right? I'm going to insist that you take off your blouse.

Well, that's more of a demand. So what else do to keep it spicy? What are the things you guys did together? Oh, in the morning and Fridays, we would go to Newport for the weekend, and he would start dancing, and he called it the Newpee dance, because Newport. But we always took two cars, and people would say, you take two cars to Newport

it's only 86 miles away but we didn't get along in the car you know wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait this is amazing what would happen in the car you guys are just you had to do two cars this is interesting because we get spent fights

sometimes in the cars too go ahead well our first Christmas and I got angry because he spent too much money he got from F.O. Schwartz one of those little kiddies staring wheels, you know? Yeah.

And that was supposed to be funny, but I didn't think it was funny. Oh, he put it in the passenger seat for you. No, he gave it to me as a Christmas gift. You know, they give him to children. Why is he? Because of the way I drove. I still have. Oh, when we would get in the car, this was funny.

He would go, crash position. Why? Because he thought you were a bad driver? Yeah. Wait, but I have a solve for this. What? I don't drive. He drives.

I don't pump gas. And I'll tell you why. Why am I married if I don't have him to drive me around and pump the gas? That needs to be a caveat of the marriage, I think. Don't you like to drive your own style? What if he drives too slow? No, I'm not the three little bears. I'm not too slow.

Not too fast. You are just right. Oh, then that's. I don't want to drive. Did you want to drive? She goes too slow. She puts. Oh, my gosh.

Someone that likes to be chauffeur around. No, I like to drive. You like to drive. And I don't want to slow down at a yellow light. I want to go through it. And I would say, hurry up, hurry up. So you guys would fight over how to drive. Yeah.

So we had separate cars. And that kept the marriage nice and alive. You want to know what a precious guy he was? What? Well, there was a black, Lexus in our back driveway at this condo we lived in. And every time I would go out, I'd say, oh, I love that car. It was just so good looking.

And a few years later, it was my birthday, and we were going out the front door where we had a parking space. And somebody was in my space. And I said, oh, God damn it, I'm going to go talk to the manager. This is ridiculous. And he said, wait, I think there's a car. on the steering wheel. And he had bought me a black Lexus.

I know. Thoughtful. Yeah. Very, very thoughtful. Yes. What were his hobbies? Did he like to read? You mentioned tennis.

What are the things you like to? Golf and tennis and friends. Golf and tennis and friends. And that's what you need. Friends are where it's at. Did you guys, were you guys out in Palm Beach together all the time? Yeah, we had, I don't cook. It's never been my thing

So we go out to dinner like six or seven nights a week And I would cook I said once I said This isn't very good is it And he said no it's not You know what? It could get worse I poisoned my husband She cooked me turkey one time

I didn't cook the turkey And literally poisoned me Because you know you have to cook It can be perfect in every area It can't be pink Well I can't be perfect in every single area We just go out to dinner instead. I don't have the capacity.

You know what's cool is a crock pot. Crocpot is cool. Yeah, croc pot. Sour cream becomes strogan off wine and became beef bourguine. A chef's also cool. So it would help you cook's cool too. Yeah. So did he get to see your success as this social media sensation?

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Well, I was walking down the street with a friend. We were going to a trunk show. And this girl popped out and said, what are you wearing? And it was like, oh. And we got 16,000 hits like overnight. light. And then she asked me to do it alone. And I did, and that did very well. It's called the class of Palm Beach, and this girl's been very successful, and she'll just pop up and talk to people and say, what are you wearing? And she likes to ask about your fragrance. It's very interesting.

But I just fell into a vat of butter because I've had a couple. people say, I think you should do this. And I think you've got a quality that people want. Did Palm Royale interview you about that show? Because the show seems like it was pretty on the nose. Well, I know that the creator follows me. I've never really had any contact with them. They should put you on that show. That would be so amazing. That would be cool. Are they going to do another season? I love that show. I think they're doing it a second time. Did you watch the whole thing? I watched the whole thing. I loved it.

And it really, I think, it captured an essence, and they should put you on that show. Okay. Can you make a call? Let's get it. I'm looking into the camera. We'll get it out onto the airwaves.

Yeah, put it out in the ether. I'm mad for Carol Burnett. We were in Boston at a Broadway show. You know, they come out in Boston before they go to New York. And she was in the ladies' room, and I told her, I was a big fan and she was so lovely.

And I loved her on that show. The show is so good. I did a, Palm Royal was Palm Beach, 1969. They asked me to do a Palm Beach, 2020, we did a tour of Worth Avenue, which is our shopping, our Madison Avenue. And then we went to the Brazilian court, really fancy restaurant. and then we went to the Four Arts,

which is a library. They have ballet and opera. It's just wonderful. The Society of the Four Arts. I'd like to go to a ballet or an opera, if you're wondering, Michael. I'd like to go to a ballet and get, like...

For Christmas, give her tickets. It's good over there, like around November, December, January, yeah? That's like... Yeah, when should we come to... Oh, the season starts. Thanksgiving. Yeah.

but really Christmas. What's the best time to come have a martini lunch with you? Oh, anytime. Oh, okay. We're in. I haven't traveled for four years. I didn't leave, but I used to always go Memorial Day. I would come leave Palm Beach and go to New York.

And then at Christmas, well, it's fun to go at Thanksgiving. Okay. Because they have a walk down Worth Avenue and they light this beautiful Christmas tree right in the middle of the street. And it's called the Worth Avenue stroll. And then, you know, everybody's back in town at Christmas. It's really, it's fun. I have some rapid fire questions for you. Hit me.

Do you get hit on by younger men? Oh, yes. Yes. I can see that. Do they court you? It's the confidence. Among other things. Not really, but a girl knows, you know.

Remember, Frank Sinatra said it shouldn't be a staring contest. I love that line. You should got, you should, you have to say something back. I'm aware. What nail polish color should girls be wearing? I saw you had a point of view on this on your Instagram story. Very clear. You rent my nails apart.

Come on, Sebel. They're very, no. They're a little too vampy, huh? No, they're very girly. Very Joan Crawford. Normally my nails are like yours. So what's the color we should be wearing? I think this is ballet slipper, but it might even be lighter than that.

Ballet slipper. What about perfume? What's the fragrance? Oh, I love Frederick Moll. He has carnal flour. Have you ever heard of Frederick Moll? Yes, I have. Okay.

I love all of this fragrance. Okay. I'm going to look into the one you recommend. Yeah, he'll go crazy. What's the brand that you think is a great brand for women? Oh, I love, well, Ralph, ever since I was 21. Can never go wrong with Ralph. Ralph is classic.

Jay Crew, I love. McLaughlin? McGoughlin? Okay. Let me see. I always say I'm very town and country with a few buttons on button. That's a great, that's the most amazing description. You like that, huh?

I model for Talbets. They, you know, they're not really fashion forward, but their quality is wonderful. And, yeah. What do you think that the older generation is getting wrong? They're not, they're not staying cute. They're just letting it go. Yeah. Okay.

And what about the younger generation? You mentioned a couple things, but give us a couple more. Too short, too low. I get girls in their 30s are seem to really like what I say and do you know they're they're a little tired of really really short and really really low and sloppy or

so you don't like like slutty outfits is what you're saying no I think white jeans in a white Brooks brother shirt with a good looking belt classics yeah I agree I think the slutty look is not it's not it. It's not flowers. But also leave a little to the imagination, right? Yeah.

But you can unbutton it. But unbutton it like town and country. What's one thing everyone needs to stop doing immediately? Chewing gum. Oh. What's your go-to cocktail? Let me see. I really, really, I stopped drinking years ago.

Okay. Well, then that's not a good question. Okay. Sparkling Pellegrino. I did a video, I think it got like 2 million hits. I was opening my kitchen door and I said, Yarlsburg cheese and Pellegrino orange. Pellegrino sent me four cases of Pellegrino orange.

You know what, Pellegrino? I think she should be on the next billboard and you should do a whole campaign with her. No, those Pellegrino fruit ones are really good. Oh, they're wonderful with Club Soda. What's with the Yarlsberg cheese? Do we need to get that? Oh, we just love it. You have like the chunk of cheese, you chop it up?

I love Costco. Okay. Do you have Costco around here? We love Costco. My dad, I think, is the mayor of Costco. He might be the only person that doesn't get carded at Costco. Well, I do Instacart Costco, so they bring it to your house. Oh, I would do that.

And you get a wedge as big as that square for like $12. And if you go to stop and shop, that much is like $40. So I'm a big Costco fan. Okay, Garlsburg cheese. I didn't know they did Instacart Costco. Do you have to have the card still? Of course.

Interesting. What's the most extra thing in your daily routine, meaning the most extravagant thing you do? Oh, I like to put perfume on before I go to bed. Oh. Alone. I went for my stepfather's funeral and my sister and I had to share a room. and I put on perfume. She said, you really are a princess.

So I've always remembered she said that, but it's just part of my, you know, nightly routine. You've got to put some perfume on. Last question. If someone wants to date you. Yes. What are your requirements? And you can get as detailed as you want. I like tall.

I like hair. I like pretty eyes. I like shiny shoes. Not patent leather, but, you know, nice shoes. I do not like long pants. I call them deputy dog pants. Like, you mean baggy pants? Like that's not hammed?

Not, not, they've not been tailored. Not tailored. Okay. I just did a video. We were in New York, and they don't wear black shoes anymore in New York. Everybody wears brown shoes. So I had Allie every time we saw brown shoes. I'd say, take a picture.

You want brown shoes, though, right? I like brown shoes. You like the brown shoes. Okay, what else? Taylored classic Brooks Brothers, you know, not Euro, you know. What about personality? Oh, God, yes. You have to make me laugh. Okay. You have to text me a lot. Okay. Richard used to leave messages in different accents, you know. I'd like a different accent. I'd like a different accent. Mix it up. I'm going to get a voice changing up. So mix it up. Keep it spicy. Absolutely. I do actually have one more question just to round this out before you go. This is from my friend Mark. Great example of age is just a number. Advice to people who feel like they missed their calling and fear it's too late. Oh, you are enough. It's like life is chapters.

Let's make this one your best. Agreed. Okay. And you're doing a fabulous. job. Thank you. You are an icon. I will say the entire office was so excited that you are coming in. You've got a special sparkle to you. You should be so proud of everything you've created. I will be coming to Palm Beach. Look a trip, Michael.

We're coming. I've got a guest room. It's twin beds, but that's okay. Just push them together maybe, but... Well, yeah. I don't know if I could be that separated. Be creative. We could do a little Lucy and Ricky situation. I like that. That gives me some air, some space. I think in a relationship

you got to have a little air you got to have a little space you got to have a little quiet time yeah I dated a guy and he said oh we always have to be

in the same room and I said no I don't care for that I don't care for that what did you say to me that day I was upstairs doing my own thing and you're like oh you've been

a little detached from the family I said well get used to it because I didn't say that he was on his video game and I'm 6,000 years pregnant and I need a

I need someone to be constantly taking care of my children with me. And so I like to throw in a little jab, which is like, get your ass downstairs and help me. It's a subtle. She just to learn to miss me a little bit. I have to go away for a while. We can take a little separation. Separate but equal. But you better be helping with the kids.

We're going to try the separate car thing because now that you've talked about it. No, I don't like to drive. Have you ever seen that joke on the internet that's like it's the guy talking to his wife in the car? and she says, stop. And he goes, oh, thank God, you're in the car. I was planning on smashing into the back of that person if you weren't here. Well, you guys, you guys are annoying at driving. But I still don't like to drive.

She'll scream, stop. And the car is like a football field away. That's how I love New York City. I love the subways. Yeah. They're so fast. Yep. That's still the best way to get around over there.

And it's fun people watching. It's one of my favorite things to do. And I love watching you two. You're adorable and you're interactive and fun. Thank you. Thank God, I wore chocolate pants today, instead of black ones. Yeah, thank God.

No, it's an honor to be invited. Come back anytime. Thank you. Where can everyone shop your shoe collaboration? Where can they find you? Pimp yourself out, Sue Bell. Oh, Stubes and Wooten. It's fabulous.

They're Sue Bell, men and women. They're only 325. I have about 50 pairs. I've been buying them for 20 years. The man that started them is Cuban. He's almost royalty, and he was a designer for another company. Just went out of my brain. But they're like Stubbs and Wooten is like Burgdorf in New York.

It's on Worth Avenue, and they're wonderful. They make a black velvet with a palm tree on it. That's my favorite to wear in New York. So it's like, yes, I'm from Palm Beach. Now you have your own pair. You guys can go shop, and where can everyone follow you and buy your memoir? Oh, I'm not sure. I'll let you know. Just follow me on Instagram. That'd be great. And what's your Instagram? Sue Bell.

Sue Bell. Just Sue Bell. And on TikTok, right? Yeah. Sue Bell.com. We'll link it all out. We'll put it in the notes. Thank you for coming on the show. Well, this has been fun.