The Bossticks - The Gut Health Truth No One Talks About Ft. Hannah Kleinfeld Of Omni-Biotic

Episode Date: January 23, 2026

#931: Join us as we sit down with Hannah Kleinfeld – COO & founding member of Omni-Biotic US. Yale & Harvard educated, Hannah shares how healing from Lyme disease led her into the world of gut healt...h, functional medicine & clinically backed probiotics. In This episode, Hannah breaks down the importance of gut microbiome development in a baby's first 1,000 days, the major effects of antibiotics, how GLP-1 medications can impact gut health, & how the gut microbiome influences far more than you think!   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Omni-Biotic click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at +1 (512) 537-7194.    To learn more about Omni-Biotic visit http://omnibioticlife.com and use code SKINNY26 for 20% off your order.    Visit http://istandwithmypack.org to support I Stand With My Pack's (ISWMP) mission by donating or adopting. To follow along visit https://www.instagram.com/istandwithmypack. Every contribution helps!   This episode is sponsored by Superpower If you're tired of being tired, this is your chance to finally get answers and get your energy back. Go to http://Superpower.com and use code SKINNY for $20 off your membership this year. Produced by Dear Media

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a dear media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
Starting point is 00:00:23 What happens to our gut when we're hung over? So our gut doesn't like alcohol. Alcohol is, are you surprised? It's inflammatory, and especially if we drink frequently, it can deplete our good gut bacteria. And with that, because our good gut bacteria are so important for all these different functions in the body, including liver function and detoxification, it can just take a toll on the gut overall. Okay, so I need to drink up after last night. I had a little too much fun. Okay, this is your second time on the show. When, I don't even, I get so confused in the studio, the timeline. When's the last time we saw you? It was June or July of 2024. Okay. So about a year and a bit ago.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Okay. I want to go back to something that we got a lot of questions about, which is babies. I now have a baby that I want to make sure has the best gut health. And I want to start there because it's a good foundation to start with. The first thousand days determine the foundation of a child's immune system and long-term health. What does that mean? Yeah. That makes me sweat.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yeah. So, you know, when babies are born, they have essentially an undeveloped gut microbiome. So the first 1,000 days is what research has shown, really helps their gut microbiome develop and shape, not just how their gut and their digestion is doing, but because the gut is so closely related to our immune system, to our metabolism, to our gut brain connection, it also trains the immune system, determines our metabolism, and can even impact that gut brain axis and how it develops over time. So that's why people say those first 1,000 days in a child's development is really when the gut microbiome forms and when it makes some of these initial kind of pathways that later can
Starting point is 00:02:09 determine things like how the child's immune system develops, how their metabolism develops, and even how that gut brain connection develops. What are some things that you see are mistakes in the first thousand days? I wouldn't necessarily call them mistakes because, you know, as parents, there's just so many things that are outside of our control. But what research has shown is certain factors determine how that gut microbiome is shaped. So number one is how the baby is born. So whether it's born vaginally or via a C-section, it has been shown over and over again that babies born with a C-section versus vaginally have very different gut microbiome signatures,
Starting point is 00:02:47 so to speak. That changes and evolves over time. That's essentially kind of how they first come into the world. Another factor that shapes it is whether they're breastfed versus. is formula fed. And then, you know, other external factors that often are outside of our control, which is antibiotics, stress in early life, and even how their diet evolves once they start solids. What can we do in those first thousand days to support the gut? So if you were just to focus on the positives, and let's pretend that the person has to have a C-section. So start there. So one of the most seamless
Starting point is 00:03:23 ways to support the gut, of course, is probiotics. You know, there are probiotics for babies. That is just such an easy way to incorporate from the beginning. Of course, you need to make sure that it is a probiotic actually for babies with the strains that are good for babies in the right dosing. But that's such a seamless way to support the gut microbiome as it develops. Other factors are, you know, if you're able to breastfeed, that's a really powerful way to kind of help balance out the microbiome development. And then also when they start solids, making sure that what you're feeding them is actually supporting their gut enough fibers, good fatty acids, just an overall balanced diet versus, you know, the overly processed high in sugar, high in fillers, foods that,
Starting point is 00:04:05 you know, many kids can just find at the grocery store. What food specifically support the gut? You mentioned fiber, but what's specific? So when I think about a fiber is huge. So fiber can be found in whole grains, in your veggies, in your fruits, and avocado, those are great ways to give the kids fiber. anything that's good and healthy fats. So olive oil, avocado again, fish if they eat it, that's incredible. It's anti-inflammatory as well. And, you know, yeah, basically, and then avoiding things that are inflammatory, which is sugar, you know, fillers, chemicals, food diets, all the things that you typically find in foods aimed for children. What's a good amount of time to breastfeed for? Like, what's ideal? I don't actually know the science on this, but to be honest, the benefits,
Starting point is 00:04:50 even if it's just a short period of time, those benefits, they're getting so many good, you know, they're getting so many good antibodies from the mother's milk. They're getting some of these microbes. They're getting so many messenger signals that are important. So any amount of time is better than none. But that being said, even if you choose not to breastfeed or you can't breastfeed, there are still ways, as we just talked about, that you can't support your baby's gut microbiome. I heard like a drop of breast milk has thousands and thousands of nutrients in it. Yes. And immune cells and you know, immune information from the mother's immune system that is so beneficial for the baby. Taylor, don't get any ideas. I want to switch gears for a second here
Starting point is 00:05:28 because we've never talked, we talk a lot about gut health on this podcast. We've talked about it with you. I highly recommend people go back and check out Hannah's other first episode back in 2024. But since then, GLP1 medication has become very popular in the, not just in the world, but in this country in particular. And we have not had a discussion around what the effects are on the gut with GLP ones. I don't know. know if you have a perspective on that. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually really interesting. So first, I guess two things. First, we have to realize that our body makes a GLP1 hormone by itself. And that is produced with the help of our good gut bacteria. So we can do things naturally to help
Starting point is 00:06:08 boost our own GLP1 production. That being said, when we take GLP1s, the thing that they do just by how they work is they slow our gastric motility. So it basically means, they slow down how quickly food moves through our digestive tract, and that keeps us full longer, which is essentially the main mechanism behind it. However, what that also means is our waste product sits in our intestines a lot longer. And that essentially can lead to things like nausea, extra gas production, bloating, constipation, all these side effects that come along with gLP ones. The other thing that happens is because you now have these things fermenting in your intestines instead of being moved out efficiently, is it can lead to
Starting point is 00:06:49 dysbiosis. So that essentially means an overgrowth of unwanted or potentially harmful bacteria and, you know, inflammation in your intestines. And that in itself is also an issue because especially once you wean off of GLP ones, if that dysbiosis is still there, you're essentially left in worse gut health than when you started. And we know that dysbiosis is also often the precursor to low-grade inflammation through the body, which is, you know, implicated in things like insulin resistance, metabolic syndrome. and other kind of chronic conditions that we're facing today. So the gLP ones leading to this potential dysbiosis,
Starting point is 00:07:29 and with that one causing us these severe GI side effects in some cases, that mean that people often either are really struggling while on gLP ones or stopping before they're ready to. And then when you're weaning off of them, that idea that potentially if you still have dysbiosis, you're actually leaving your gut and therefore your whole body in a worse spot than before. So based on what you know, if someone is going to move forward, taking, you know, using GLP1 medication, what would your advice be to them in order to combat some of those effects that aren't great?
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah, so definitely supporting with a good probiotic. Actually, OmniBiotic heat talks, one of our probiotics, it was tested in a clinical study where patients were given GLP1s. And the researchers found that, one, taking heat talks dramatically reduced the GI side effects and that risk for dysbiosis, which in itself is huge. But secondly, they actually found that if you pair a lower dose of GLP1 with omnibiotic heatox, you're getting similar results to taking a high dose of GLP1 without the omnibiotic heatox.
Starting point is 00:08:34 What's a low and high dose? That depended on that drug, but essentially, typically, you know, if you're taking the regular dose, they could take a much lower dose of that specific drug. So essentially it means the high doses usually come with higher side effects. You know, people are struggling more, whereas on the lower dose, you're having fewer side effects. And then if you're adding omnibody heat ducts, you're having even fewer side effects. And you're seeing the same results as on the high dose. What's the biggest misconception about the gut?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Something that you see on social media that drives you bad shit crazy. I still think people think about the gut as just digestion. And, you know, that is so far from the gut. the truth. When you look at the science and more and more science is coming out about this, the gut is connected to so many important processes in the body. One of my favorite topics to talk about recently is low-grade inflammation because the low-grade inflammation, we hear about it so much, it's connected to so many of our modern day illnesses, including cardiovascular disease, insulin resistance, diabetes, cognitive decline, and a lot of that low-grade inflammation can actually
Starting point is 00:09:42 start in the gut. Let's say there's someone. who's listening that eats a lot of Panda Express Chinese chicken, orange chicken. Let's say they also eat a lot of Cheetos, the flaming hot ones. Let's say they drink a lot of cumquot mojitos and they're not taking care of their gut. Where would you tell them to start? What are some tangible tips they could do today? Yeah. So number one, just taking kind of a bigger picture, zoom out stock of your life. You know, what are the habits? Try not to make eye contact with them. What are the habits, you know, on a daily basis that are supporting your overall health
Starting point is 00:10:28 and with that also your gut? And what are the things that maybe the things you're putting into your body or the habits that you're doing that are creating inflammation and things that just don't love you back? And so tactically, you know, once you have that, I would then really look at one, how can you further support your gut? a probiotic is such an easy, seamless, literally one-minute ritual to do on a daily basis to support that overall. And you're not just supporting your gut. You're supporting your overall well-being. Number two, adding things into your diet that are high in fiber, anti-inflammatory, just to
Starting point is 00:11:00 really support your overall gut health. And then three, stress management, so important because the gut brain connection, we know that stress dramatically impacts our gut microbiome and increases inflammation. And then I would say, you know, if you really feel like something is persistently wrong, get tested, get a good stool test, work with a practitioner who knows about gut health and really make sure you get to the root cause. There's a statistic I want to read you. And there's, you know, on this show, actually of recent, but I think not just this show, a lot of shows and just people in general are talking about ADHD, right? It's like you see all these viral clips. We've had a few ourselves. And it makes sense when you read this status.
Starting point is 00:11:41 has ADHD diagnosis hit 11.4% of U.S. kids studies showed dysbiosis is linked to attention, mood, and neurodevelopment. I wonder your perspective. Yeah. I mean, even if there was another study that showed that in the last nine years, ADHD diagnosis and kids has gone up by 15% from 6 to 7 million, which is really staggering if you think that that's basically in one decade. And we also know that so many teens, I think in a recent study, almost 21% percent, of teens reported anxiety and 17% of teens reported symptoms of depression. The gut is so closely connected in all of this because of that gut brain connection. Kids these days, they're exposed to so many environmental stressors, stress at school, performance stress, you know, nervous system dysregulation from all the devices that they have, toxins in their food toxins in their
Starting point is 00:12:36 environment. So it's no surprise that the gut is suffering and because of that connection, we're seeing that increase in ADHD. As with many conditions, it's all multifactorial. But many healthcare practitioners, especially in the functional field, will tell you they always also look at the gut in children and teens with these mood or attention deficit disorders because the gut plays such a huge role. I will tell you when I take my children to a birthday party and they have that cake that all the kids have that's from like Ralph's that's died with the fake balloons on it and they eat that and then they have the pizza the Domino's pizza whatever it is I let them enjoy and we come home it is a totally different child it's almost unbelievable to see how they act after eating certain preservatives
Starting point is 00:13:32 or coloring or whatever I don't know if it's too much gluten whatever it is it's it's like a different child. So you are right, the things in the food have such an effect. And then you mix that with screen time. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's almost like the ADHD. How could it not go up? Absolutely. But what, but I think what this stat is telling me, and especially like a lot of adults know, you know, prominent adults are diagnosing themselves with ADHD. But, you know, if this statistics, right, that means like one out of every 10 kids will have this diagnosis. and if dysbiosis is a big contributor and if the food then I wonder like what you would prescribe to these people in order to combat this effect. Yeah, I mean many functional medicine doctors and practitioners in that space, they will also look at, you know, what are people eating?
Starting point is 00:14:26 How can you reduce inflammation in the body? Because we know that that increased state of inflammation in the body can also drive neuroinflammation, which is linked to a lot of these. conditions. I know you also wanted to talk about how our gut health evolves over time. Like you mentioned, you know, you have your first child, your gut health changes. What do adults need to know and be aware of in order to manage that in those changes? Yeah, I mean, the more I learn about the gut microbiome, the more I really see that it is such an ally. I call the gut a control center for health for us. And that really can be applied to any stage of life. And especially when I I became a mom, for me, the question no longer was just how can I support my health and feel my best,
Starting point is 00:15:12 but what can I do for my whole family? My daughter, my husband, my dog, my parents, my parents-in-law as they're aging. The gut just has so much to do with it. So, you know, if you think about it, we talked about it as, you know, babies those first thousand days, the gut microbiome becomes, you know, it gets shaped and it really trains our immune system and has an impact on how our metabolism develops. Then kids, you know, the stress, the environmental factors, those are all extremely depleting for our gut microbiome. They decrease our good bacteria. They increase inflammation in the gut. And with that, we often increase inflammation in the body. It starts this vicious cycle. That only gets worse. When we're adults, we're continuing some bad lifestyle habits.
Starting point is 00:15:55 We're chronically stressed. Stress in the U.S. has gone up by a significant amount. More and more adults in younger age brackets are starting to show metabolic issues, insulin resistance, and so on. And then, you know, as you get into old age, really like seniors, the gut becomes even more important because microbiome diversity goes down as we age. With that, it directly impacts our immune system. It impacts how we're absorbing our nutrients. It impacts how strong we feel in old age. And also just actually a recent study in the journal of aging or research, of aging came out that was looking at the effect of the gut microbiome on the development of Alzheimer's disease. And the researchers concluded that this was the first kind of study that
Starting point is 00:16:43 really showed that there's a strong connection between the gut microbiome and how it influences the start and the progression of Alzheimer's. So it really is this ally of yours at every stage of life. And it can be so powerful when you support your gut to support your entire well-being through that. Not all probiotics are created equal. What are the ones that are just bullshit? Yeah. So probiotics, when you have to realize different strains do different things in the body. So it's really hard to say this is a probiotic with one strain or with two strains and it's just going to do everything. Like support your immune system, support your gut health, help you if you have like constipation or diarrhea, like it's just really hard to do that with one strain. So really you want
Starting point is 00:17:33 formulations that have multi, multi-strain and multi-species, so multiple different strains, multiple different species, and that are formulated with specific health outcomes in mind, because that allows you to be targeted in what you're actually working on. And then you need to make sure that those probiotics also get into your intestines alive and metabolically active. Because even if you have the best probiotic combination, if it reaches your gut dead, that's really it's not going to do anything. So that's why, you know, our powder delivery mechanism, it, it is designed in a way to help reach the gut alive and active. We tested this in a GI simulator. 83% of omnibiotics bacteria get into the gut alive and active versus an average of 7% across
Starting point is 00:18:15 leading U.S. brands. My facialist, Stacey Christie was telling me the other day, she's like, you have to be careful of the capsules on a lot of these supplements because they actually give you acne. Interesting. I was getting hormonal acne and she's like, you got to stop the capsules. And I was like, whoa, this is so interesting. She's like they can cause breakouts. So that's interesting that it's powder form. Yeah, I mean, the capsules from a probiotic perspective, most probiotics are freeze-dried. So probiotic bacteria are live little beings. So they get freeze-dried, which means all the liquid is being taken out of them to kind of put them in this dormant state. When something is freeze-dried, the first thing, the first liquid it gets in touch with, it will just soak up like a sponge. In many capsules, that happens in the stomach. The stomach is extremely acidic. The role of that acid is to kill bacteria that we take in through our environment, through our food.
Starting point is 00:19:12 So if our good probiotics are in the stomach and that capsule opens, they will soak up that acidic juices of the stomach and basically either die or just get kind of damaged in a way that they just won't do the same work as a, resilient, viable probiotic. Why do so many women in particular have gut issues compared to men? And I'm basing that off of nothing other than I talk to a lot of women on this podcast that talk about gut issues. And I talk to very few men that lead with that.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I mean, maybe the men are having it. I feel like you're getting this from that one podcast where it was like the IBS. No, but a lot of women do, and tell me if I'm wrong, I don't know if you, you probably have the stats, but a lot of women do complain about gut health issues. and in my personal experience, and again, I could be wrong, it's not meant to be sexist, I don't hear that complaint as often from men, whether they're having the issue or not maybe men just aren't as vocal about it.
Starting point is 00:20:05 But in my personal life, I don't hear it as often from men as I do from women. And on this particular podcast, there's been many women that come on and say, hey, I had gut issues and it led to X, Y, and Z. So I wonder why. Yeah, first of all, there are stats that support that women are two to three times as impacted by gut issues. It's two times as many women than men have IBS, two times as many women suffer from constipation
Starting point is 00:20:29 than men. And I think generally speaking, that is true. Okay. So for every hundred men that have an issue, it could be two to three hundred women that have it. Okay. So I'm not that wrong, right? No. And why? I think that really is kind of where there's a couple of different theories. One is women's entire metabolism is just different because of our monthly hormonal changes. And the gut is very connected to this hormone balance. So there's just that that's at play. The other thing is, you know, I think maybe there's also something around the mental load and how women carry stress versus men. And we know that stress is so detrimental to our gut that I could also imagine that there is just a connection there. Meaning like the women carrying that stress, they carry more
Starting point is 00:21:17 stress than men? I don't know. I just think sometimes women maybe like deal with stress differently. Like men bitch about it and women just like internalize it. Yeah, maybe. Just tough through it. I don't know, but just I could see how there's a connection between just how we're processing stress. And because stress impacts the gut so much that there's also that connection between, you know, we're just feeling stressed and maybe internalizing that more or dealing with it differently. And it comes out as gut issues.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And do those poor gut issues, I wonder if you have any information on this, manifest in basically different kind of challenges for men versus women, meaning like, I've never had a guy because I'm like, well, my gut was off. And then it led to this acne. And I had like, like, meaning, you know what I mean? Yeah, interesting. I wonder if, like, if a woman and a man both have the same gut issue, if they both will then deal with the same negative repercussion of that gut issue. I don't know if there's any information. I'm not sure about that. Yeah, that's an interesting question, though. And the reason, I'm only basing this and asking this because we have so many of these conversations. And again, women will come and tell a story and they say, well, I had, I fixed my
Starting point is 00:22:22 gut and that led to whatever issue I had to resolve. But I've never had a man come and be like, I had this gut issue and then it was dealing these other things. So I wonder if like men just kind of if we if if the end result of poor gut health is a different manifestation in terms of the challenges that we have to deal with as genders. Yeah, I wonder that's a good question. I mean, it could one thing could just be awareness too, you know, how aware are we of kind of how we're feeling and how our whole body is doing. And then also again, you know, the physiology of a man is just different than the physiology of a woman. So there's, I mean, again, the gut is so connected to our metabolism, our hormones, how we metabolize hormones, our hormone balance, that it makes sense that it kind of comes out maybe in different ways or it shows up in different ways.
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Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah, my Lyme journey was interesting. I mean, obviously the first was to just get rid of the lime. And that we did through a lot of rounds of antibiotics. Right. Actually, in the last few years, there's been a lot of really interesting herbal protocols that came out that very successfully helped with tick-borne illnesses. So maybe if I went through it now, I might have been able to avoid the real antibiotics, but who knows?
Starting point is 00:26:37 And then the second part for me was just my whole, so many systems in my body were depleted and out of balance because of that whole journey with my antibiotics and even from the Lyme itself. So then it really became about repairing and restoring balance in those systems. A big part of that was also my gut. That's actually how I found omnibiotic. You know, the products weren't in the U.S. at that point. I was at a point where I had gotten rid of the lime, but I still felt, I still felt like I was at a point where I was, like, surviving or like barely getting by versus actually thriving.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I still had so much brain fog, nutrient depletions, my adrenals were out of balance, my thyroid, like pretty much every system. that you can think of was somehow struggling. I was working with an amazing team of doctors here in the U.S., and, of course, they had also already told me we have to work on your gut and we have to reduce inflammation in the gut. Then actually, when I went to Germany, my family is originally from there, I was talking to a doctor friend in Germany and talking to her about my whole journey, and she said, Hannah, you have to try omnibiotic.
Starting point is 00:27:39 They're taking the market here by storm. They have this entirely new approach to probiotics, and I tried them. And that's really when my gut health, and with that also my brain fog, energy and my whole recovery made a huge step change. When I go on antibiotics, I always do aloevara, silver, and omnibiotic, all three, not mixed together, but separate. And I do it for like 20 days. And I think that that makes a big difference than if I did nothing, then I try to eat Greek yogurt. Yeah. Because I feel like those four things help support the fact that I'm on antibiotic. Absolutely. I mean, science has shown that even a short course of antibiotics can
Starting point is 00:28:24 dramatically change the composition of our gut microbiome and not just during the time that you're taking the antibiotic, but for months to come. So anything you can do to restore that balance kind of before it gets out of hand is really helpful. And then, you know, our omnibiotic AB10 was specifically developed with that in mind. And we have clinical studies showing that when you take omnibetic AB10 with an antibiotic, you're reducing your antibiotics. associated diarrhea and GI side effects, and you're actually also reducing the risk that potentially harmful pathogens take up some of the space that is kind of being, you know, being made when you take antibiotics that are killing off your good bacteria.
Starting point is 00:29:04 So if somebody has no choice and they have to get on an antibiotic, they're having, you know, they're doing a surgery, they got sick. Is there a protocol that you guys typically prescribe if you, if someone knows they're for sure going to do an antibiotic round? Yes, omnibiotic AB10. AB10. Not this one. You can.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I mean, look, heat talks is a really powerful product, so that will certainly also support your gut. But the strains in omnibiotic AB10, it's 10 strains that were specifically chosen to, because they have the power to, one, help reduce that antibiotic associated diarrhea and side effects from antibiotics.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And two, because they can actually actively kind of fight or keep out potential pathogens that could take up chop in your gut, if those good microbes are depleted during antibiotics. Did you give me AB-10? I think I only have heat talks. I don't think I have it in there. I'll send you a box. You don't have to. I'm happy to buy it. I just wanted to know if I had tried that one. I don't think I have. I'm not sure. And actually, that's also one of the two that we now have in a kid's dose because so many kids are on antibiotics. And you know, for kids, sometimes it's even harder if they
Starting point is 00:30:09 then have these GI side effects. And of course, as we just talked about, because how the kids gut microbiome is so essential to how they develop, we were really excited to bring that kid's version to the US. Here's the scary thing about the kids with the antibiotics. And you're a parent. You'll get this. A kid gets sick. Doctor comes in and says, we know we can nuke the sickness for lack of better words with the antibiotic and it'll take it out. But with everything that we learn and that we talk about regularly, you know the antibiotic comes with the cost, especially with a small child. And so the calculus as a parent is like, well, should I not? do the antibiotic, let my kid kind of struggle a little bit, but then heal without that,
Starting point is 00:30:52 or do you go the other route and do the antibiotic? And the reason, we have firsthand experience with this where one of our kids was sick and the doctor prescribed antibiotic and we were nervous and we ended up going more of a holistic route. And again, this is not to tell parents one way or the other. It's just just this particular case. So we were able to avoid the antibiotics, but we were like inches away from a decision of doing that. If some, if a parent does, do that and has to put their kid, would you go that AB 10 or would you go the kids route or how would you think about it? So first of all, I think it's so hard as parents because sometimes we just don't like with daycare and you know parents who are working especially, sometimes we just can't
Starting point is 00:31:31 keep our kid home from daycare for five, six, ten days, right? So sometimes that really is the only option. If a child has to be on antibiotics, I would absolutely support with probiotics. It depends on the age of the child. If they're very small, less than a year old, I would stick to our infant and baby formula, which is omnibetic panda. Anything above that, you can go the AB10 kids route. It tastes good, right? The, it's, I mean, it tastes, they all taste very similar. The kids one? The AB10 kids taste very similar to the adult version. The stress release kids is the one in the peach flavor. Okay, so I think I'm going to have to do peach flavor with my kids. They're not, But you know, for kids, you can mix it into things like yogurt, milk,
Starting point is 00:32:14 apple juice, just nothing too acidic. Okay. So that's, I mean, that's how my daughter takes it. Lemonide, that's too acidic? That's too acidic. But like, I mix, or even an oatmeal if it's not too hot or like, you know, with my daughter, I put it in like her yogurt. You could.
Starting point is 00:32:28 You know what I did the other day? I snuck omega that smells like fish in maple syrup. And I got away with it. Wow. She was like eating the waffles. She's like, these are so good. It kind of has a lemon flavor, mom. I'm like, eat up.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Oh, man. You got to get that fish oil. Yeah. So I'm constantly trying to find sneaky ways to get things in. So that's good that you can mix it. We have like raw chocolate milk that we drink from the farmer's market. That works. And we can just put it in there.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yeah. It's fine. They won't taste it. Okay. Yeah, but you know, like I just, I think this is such important information because one, I think a lot of adults are very liberal with the antibiotics on themselves. Like, you know, these people get sick and they have a sniffle. Like, I need a Z pack.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Like that, you know, just deal with the sniffle, buddy. And then you have other people like, they don't know, they don't know about the, the negative effects of an antibiotic. And so anytime it's recommended, it's like, oh, that, you know what I mean? And so I think, you know, if you rewind this conversation 15, 20 years when we were all growing up, nobody thought about an antibiotic disrupting the gut microbiome. Or if they did, it wasn't talked about mainstream. So we were just, we were super liberal, at least as millennials, with antibiotics.
Starting point is 00:33:29 If you don't take a probiotic and you're on antibiotics, you most likely will get a yeast infection. You know, that's actually so interesting that you bring that up. The amount of people who take antibiotics and then a few weeks later get a UTI, a yeast infection, a thrush, candida, some sort of secondary issue in the gut, bloating that won't go away. And it is because all these microbiomes are so connected. Our gut microbiome, our skin microbiome, our vaginal microbiome, our urinary tract microbiome, they're all connected. So if we have an imbalance or if we're eliminating a lot of the good bacteria in the gut,
Starting point is 00:34:07 that can show up in various ways as infections afterwards. That's so interesting because after I took antibiotics the last time I got periola dermatitis. So that's very normal. Well, it's the gut skin connection at play. So essentially if antibiotics, they wipe out the bad bacteria, but they also wipe out many of our good gut bacteria. And because of the gut's connection to the immune system and also the guts connection to our skin, when we don't have all these good bacteria, we're not absorbing our nutrients the same way, our immune system function changes, and we also can have just inflammation in the gut. And often
Starting point is 00:34:45 when we have inflammation in the gut, that can show up for different people in different ways. The gut skin connection, because of that connection, oftentimes inflammation in the gut for people shows up as inflammation on the skin. If you think about it, the skin, the gut, the skin is essentially, it just continues in our mouth as mucus membranes and then travels all the way down to the mucus membranes in our intestines. Why this is confusing, though, is it feels like if you got on an antibiotic, it would clear out the dermatitis. So that's why, to me, it's like, it's confusing when I take an antibiotic and then
Starting point is 00:35:17 you get dermatitis. But a lot of times people are prescribed antibiotics for dermatitis. But this is what I am saying about the tradeoff. To your point, it kills the good and the bad. You want to obviously get rid of the bad, but if some of that good is basically helping you with another issue, that's going to be wiped out. and now that other issue presents. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Exactly. You know what I mean? Like what I always, like it's like a business analogy, but what I always tell people is like every opportunity comes with the cost, every cost comes. It's just there's always tradeoffs. It's not like like there's always a reaction down the line. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Talk to us about the gut bacteria that affects egg quality. Yeah. So that, so women's hormone balance and even fertility. is such a fascinating, almost like emerging field of research. There was a study in the journal of endocrinology that was looking at dysbiosis, so an imbalance in your gut and inflammation in the gut, and how that actually negatively impacted egg quality and even embryo development. So if you take a high quality probiotic every day, does that support that? Yeah. So of course, fertility is so multifactorial. But,
Starting point is 00:36:33 Research is pointing more and more to this connection between our gut, how it can lead to low-grade inflammation in the body and how that low-grade inflammation can have a negative impact on fertility outcomes and also hormone balance. So by taking a high-quality probiotic, you're restoring that balance in the gut. You're reducing the inflammation in the gut. And with that, you're making a really positive impact on keeping inflammation low throughout your body. And with that also support, it's just a cascading effect. With that, you're supporting your hormone balance. your immune function and also these types of outcomes. We have a couple rapid fire questions for you.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Papaya for digestion. True or false? Yes, papaya is so rich in digestive enzymes. It's incredible. You can, of course, just eat papaya. But if you want to take it a step further, we actually recently introduced two papaya-based digestive products in the U.S. One is just called caricol.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It's just papaya, but it's prepared in these ancient, traditional are you Vedic and traditional Chinese medicine principles that makes the papaya enzymes and the healing benefits of papaya four times as potent as just eating the papaya. And that product is amazing for people with constipation. It's safe for kids. So many stories, especially in Europe of kids who are having constipation who love this papaya product. And it's also really good for pregnant women because in pregnancy, so many women struggle
Starting point is 00:37:58 with digestive issues, especially constipation and bloating. and this is such a safe natural way to support our digestion. Taylor, what a great episode for you to sit in on. Especially after the night you had last night. The other thing, speaking of this, so the other product is the Caricol Gastro, and that one is the same papaya, but also with oats. And the oats are also prepared in these traditional ancient ways, and it actually allows to coat the stomach.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So this caracol gastro has shown in a study that it coats the stomach, And with that, it helps reduce acid reflux, heartburn. And it's so good, especially people who are eating heavy meals and who drink alcohol with that. And because of that, they have heartburn or acid reflux. This is a really fantastic, again, natural solution for that. What's a quote unquote healthy food or food that people think is healthy that actually is wrecking people's gut? I think for people who have, who cannot tolerate lactose very well, anything that's dairy, you know, like caffeine. and these things that for people who can do lactose, great. Like it has good bacteria. It's fermented,
Starting point is 00:39:06 so it's wonderful. But for people who don't tolerate lactose well, it's probably going to add more inflammation than good. You know what's the food that I eat all the time for gut health and I want to get my husband on it? Sourcrow. Do you like that for the gut? It's fermented. And so anything that's fermented, you know, that basically means it has some good probiotic bacteria in it. So it's certainly helpful for overall digestion. However, where I would say just to be aware is any of these fermented foods, whether it's yogurt, sourcrow, you name it, kombucha. It's not the same as taking a targeted probiotic. So it can be complementary and it's great for your overall diet, but you're just not as targeted as taking a probiotic. We often get the question, oh, I just eat, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:53 sauerkraut, drink kombucha. I don't need a probiotic. And in most cases, we say, well, it's not really an either or it's an and because of how our modern day lifestyle and our environment constantly depletes our gut. A refrigerated probiotic is not the highest quality probiotic all the time. True or false? It depends. The challenge with refrigeration is that you just don't know how the cooling chain works. And there's just a much higher risk that somewhere in this transportation and cooling chain, the product didn't get cooled. And because of that, more of the probiotics died before you take them. And also, frankly, having been in my own Lyme journey, I was on products that needed refrigeration.
Starting point is 00:40:37 It's just a pain to travel with. Also, I prefer my little packet in the morning. Yeah. I do electrolytes after, right? Yeah, or before. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Just not in the same glass.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Not in the same glass. And it's just easy to just shoot it down. And it's hydration. I mean, starting your day with hydration. is so important. You're, you know, you haven't had water all night. You're rehydrating your entire system and that's just part of it. Do you like lemon water first thing in the morning with the acidity with gut health or no? A lot of people personally, I go back and forth. Sometimes I love the lemon water. Sometimes I just do warm water or even just water with some, you know, chlorophyll or
Starting point is 00:41:17 whatever in it. But yeah, just honestly hydration is really key. Not cold ice water, right? No, that's not so good. Lemon. Do you hear that? Wait, there's a hill I'm going to die on. Die on the hill. My grandmother told me you don't drink ice water. We love ice water. It's not good for your gut, right? Well, from a traditional Chinese medicine perspective, actually, they would say that too cold
Starting point is 00:41:40 it just isn't great for the body in general. But, you know, there's also personal preferences. Taylor, has a big gulp out there. Extra ice. Lemon, when it goes into your system, though, turns alkaline. That's true. Yeah. Did you know that?
Starting point is 00:41:54 Did you know that? Because I go back and forth, like some mornings I wake up and I want the lemon water. Sometimes I woke up and I just want like room temperature water. So I go back and forth like you. Yeah, same. I think that's fine. I think the hydration is more important than what exactly is in it. And you know, some people love to add electrolytes.
Starting point is 00:42:11 That's great to electrolytes are one of my favorite supplements as well, just for overall well-being. So what electrolytes do you like? I love the element and I know you guys love that too. Yes, we've talked about element on the show. Thank God you said element because they're our partner. And if you said something else, I was going to cut it out. No, I love it. You guys gave us 20% off your order with code skinny 26 at omnibioticlife.com.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I personally, you guys, if you're going to get one, the one that I love is the heat talks. But you're telling me I need to try the AB10. If you're doing antibiotics. Would you not do the AB10 if you're not doing antibiotics? It depends. Some people love it and swear by it. And that's the only product they take. we also have the gut health reset program, which is three different products. It starts with the AB10
Starting point is 00:42:57 to restore. Then it goes to stress release for the inflammation and the gut barrier and that gut brain connection. Then it goes to imbalance for immune support. But yeah, I think it really, I mean, that's the beauty of targeted probiotics. You can really choose the one that meets you where you're at and your health goals that you're currently facing. I also, if you have kids, would get the peach one. Yes. And I think the baby one is genius, the infant one. Yeah. So that's the omnibiotic panda and then the peach flavored one is the omnibotic stress release kids. And that's cool because it's just a peach powder. You can just take it on the tongue, no water, nothing, and kids love it because it tastes good. With the infant one, do you just put it on their tongue? It depends. So you can
Starting point is 00:43:37 either mix in a small amount of water and put it on their tongue, give it on a spoon or if you're bottle feeding in some way, whether it's breast milk or formula, you can just mix it right in. Amazing. That's so nice that you guys gave us a code. Code Skinny 26, 20% off your order. omnibioticlife.com. Where can everyone find you to say hello? Well, you can find us at Omnibetic Life on Instagram at, you know, OmnibeticLife.com, our website. And then I personally, you can find me at Hannah X. Kleinfeld on Instagram. Thank you, Hannah.
Starting point is 00:44:09 It's good seeing you again. Thank you so much for having me on. It was such a pleasure. So yeah, every time I have these conversations, now it's a reminder to like get back on the protocol. We take stuff so regularly, but this is like, oh, I got to get on a protocol. also from a consistency perspective, if someone like me is getting back on it regularly and someone's just starting out, what do you recommend?
Starting point is 00:44:31 I mean, consistency is key. You know, it's one of those things where your gut, I think of it like a garden and you have to tend to it. There's weeds that come up. You have to pull them out. You just have to tend to it. It's not an overnight fix. So really, if you're thinking about where should I start, I would say, well, what are you,
Starting point is 00:44:48 what's currently going on in your life? What are you looking to optimize? Are you looking for, you know, that post-antibiotic support or more stress support, got liver support with heat talks, start there. And then just remember that ideally it becomes a consistent habit. Okay. All right. Yeah, I think holidays, New Year just want to fortify as much as possible and, like, clear out any of the holiday carnage. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And you know, that's actually the other thing. Like, wow. Not the nicest way of saying, though. People know what I'm saying. It's like, let's get a little reset going. Well, you know, the other thing to think about is like many people after the holidays, we hit the new year with all these resolutions and intentions. But at the same time, we're feeling super low energy. We're feeling so inflamed.
Starting point is 00:45:32 We're feeling unmotivated. And then people wonder why they can't reach their New Year's resolution. So I would say before you even start pursuing these resolutions, really make sure that you have your physiological baseline figured out your nutrition, your gut support, your hydration, you know, those basics. so that you can then be your best self and pursue those resolutions. You said it much better than me. Exactly. Much better. Thank you, Hannah. Thank you, Hannah.

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