The Bossticks - The "Iceman" Wim Hof On Health, Immunity, Anxiety Control, & Removing Depression Using Breath Work & The Cold

Episode Date: May 19, 2020

#268: On this episode we are joined by "The Iceman", Wim Hof! For those unfamiliar with Wim Hoff, he is a Dutch extreme athlete noted for his ability to withstand freezing temperatures. He has set Gui...nness world records for swimming under ice and prolonged full-body contact with ice, and still holds the record for a barefoot half-marathon on ice and snow. On today's episode Wim discusses how to use the cold and breath work to boost our immune system, limit anxiety, and remove depression.  This episode is brought to you by GOMACRO Enter promo code SKINNY for 30% of your order at check out. We love these all natural, plant based, and organic bars. We keep them in our bags on the go and love that they are a completely natural and farm produced bar.  This episode is brought to you by Versed. Versed is the non-toxic, cruelty-free, and vegan skincare brand that's hyper-focused on bringing you real results at prices your bank account appreciates. Their products are made with proven ingredients at skin-changing levels, without the fussy packaging and conventional markups. You only pay for what matters—the goop inside the bottle Get 10% off for first time users when you shop at versedskin.com with promo code SKINNY Produced by Dear Media 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following podcast is a Dear Media production. She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire. Fantastic. And he's a serial entrepreneur. A very smart cookie. And now Lauren Everts and Michael Bostic are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness. Welcome to the skinny confidential, him and her.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Aha! And cold water brings you back to who you are, what you are. There is no binding there. There is being. You've got to be strong. You've got to be connected. You're able to withstand aggressive impact of ice water upon your body for a length of time and feel great about it. That is connection.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And that connection brings confidence. Here we go again. Everybody, that clip is from our guest of the show today. The Iceman, Wim Hof. You may have heard of him. He is the crazy guy that climbed Mount Everest. and Mount Kilimanjaro in nothing but shorts and sandals. So pretty wild guy.
Starting point is 00:01:07 You haven't even done anything in shorts and sandals. No, I do not wear shorts and I do not wear sandals. I'm not even, I can't even compete. But guys, this is a great episode with a guy that is incredible, has so many incredible feats. Just like for those of you that don't know who Wim Hof is, he is a Dutch extreme athlete noted for his ability to withstand freezing temperatures. He has set Guinness World Records for Swimming Under Ice in prolonged full body contact
Starting point is 00:01:31 with ice and still holds the record for a barefoot half marathon on ice and snow. That's a lot to take in. I am not a big fan of the cold, but after this episode, I fully understand the benefits and I'm starting to become hopefully a bigger fan. And I also want to just shout out how he has changed my quarantine experience. I was meditating for a long time. I would do 10 minutes every morning. And I have found that his breathwork, it's a free app, his 10 to 20 minutes of breathwork a day,
Starting point is 00:01:59 makes such a difference in my entire day more than meditation. And he gets into it on this podcast, why it's actually better for you than meditation. It's wild. And then recently I've been implementing his cold shower trick, which will also get into. And that has just given me a burst of energy. I'm bouncing off the walls. Michael wants to stab me in quarantine, but we don't care because we feel great. Speaking of quarantine, I am about done with the quarantine. I'm about done with all the distancing. I'm starting to boil over. And, you know, doing these podcasts for so long, the best thing about doing these podcasts is sitting across the table from somebody in person. Unfortunately, we can't do that right now. So again, this one is over Zoom. Excuse the sound quality.
Starting point is 00:02:42 It's not necessarily what I'd like out of a studio, but it is the next best thing since we can't actually be in person. And, you know, it is what it is. We're all stuck. We're here. This is what we're doing. Yeah. I mean, we are just having to adjust to what's going on. The second, we can get back in studio. We'll give you guys crisp, clear sound. But in the meantime, we just wanted to give you some valuable tips and tricks that you can apply to your own life while you're indoors. This one really irritated me, though, because if there is one person I want to be in studio with, like we've had a lot of guests, I wanted to be in the studio with Wim. So Wim, you've got to come back on the show. Michael should also mention that he was on the Goop Show on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:03:17 He's major. Yeah, so check that out. But before you do, check this out. If you're looking, you know, to learn about how to manage anxiety, if you're learning how to boost your immune system, how to kick depression. This episode is for you. We get into all of it. It's a wide-spanning conversation. With that, the Iceman, Wim Hof. Welcome to the Skinny Confidential, Him and Her show. This is the Skinny Confidential, him and her. All right, Wim, before we begin, I just have to ask you, how the hell did you climb so high on Mount Everest and the top of Kilimanjaro with wearing nothing but shorts and shoes and ice cold temperature? I just, please explain how this is even possible.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Life is crazy. I'm even crazier about life. So I come up with the craziest of stunts. It used actually through television. Television makes you know, you are Wim Hof. They call you Wim Hof the Iceman, and we are doing a superhuman series with the Discovery Channel or BBC it was. Do you have a new challenge? While I was on the phone with them, I said, let me climb Mount Everest in shorts.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And directly they said, yes, yes, yes, yes. What? Is that possible? That has never been done. Yeah, that's why I want to do it. I'm that spontaneous. Why? Because I have confidence inside myself.
Starting point is 00:04:47 And I've learned how to do that. And there is a confidence, a connection inside mind and body that is being trained and grounded through 40, 45 years of training, regularly going into cold water. And cold water brings you back to who you are, what you are. There is no minding there. There is being. You've got to be strong. You've got to be connected.
Starting point is 00:05:18 You're able to withstand aggressive impact of ice water upon your body for a length of time and feel great about it, that is connection. And that connection brings confidence. And that after 25 years of training by myself, I came and got a contact with the TV. They began to see what I was doing. And it was amazing for them. There was some big drama.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Man is going underneath ice and swimming underneath the ice for 100 meters. He's doing that. And it's claustrophobic. You cannot get out and he is only in his pants, in his shorts, and he is doing it all, breath-holt, and he is walking outside for hours in the snow, barefoot. What is this? We want to go to check him out.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And when they began to check me out, they began to challenge me. And I said, I'm here. I got that connection. I'm confident of what I can do. I know exactly what the mind and body is able to do and will not push it. too far, but I want to get everything out of life. So how did I come up with the Everest and with the Kilimanjada? Because they had a clue or an idea for a great new series on superhuman.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And I said, you want to see what the human really is capable of? I will show it by doing something that has been done. And that is climbing Mount Everest, not in clothes, without oxygen, because that's the way it began, with clothes and oxygen. Then somebody came up only with clothes. And I say, I want to do it without clothes and without oxygen. And I did. I came to the death zone, and that's about 7,500 meters.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And, I mean, it's freezing and is less than half the oxygen over there. And I actually felt very good, very confident, very, I was under, the roof of the world, looking at the top, the summit, and the roof altogether, Emma Shores, in freezing temperatures, with less than half the oxygen. And it was great. Let's talk about that for a little bit. So, for those that are unfamiliar with the Wimhoff method, which I think has made a lot of these feats that you've accomplished possible.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Let's talk about what the Wimhoff method is, and then we'll get a little bit more granular in detail. So the Wimhoff method is based. through science that non-speculatively we are able to tap into areas of the physiology thought of impossible by humans. And now everybody is able to tap in, say, the autonomic nervous system, the hormonal system, which is the endocrine system, and very important for now, the immune system. And this was all thought of impossible.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And it is based on three components. Breathing exercises, deep breathing exercises, gradual colder exposure, and mind set. The setting of your own mind. Let's not be very abstract about it. And with the mind, I mean neurology. The setting of your own neurology is a power, it's a powerful tool. And this was thought of, like in medical descriptions, it was called the placebo effect.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Basically, the professor's told, in the new book of Scott Carney, Wimpa has found the secret of placebo. That means, the neurology of our brain is able now to be accessed consciously, and at will to be controlled. So, once again, three components. The deep breathing exercises, the gradual cold exposure, and the mind setting, the control over the neurology of the mind.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Those three together enable the person to tap into the autonomic nervous system, thought of inaccessible, but no longer. We have shown this in science. related directly to the immune system. So the immune system was thought of inaccessible, not influential, but now we are able to boost our immune system to very much more higher levels than ever thought before.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It also starts. People got ejected with the bacteria and 16,000 people could not, Then suddenly 12 people I trade, they had 100% score in fending of the bacteria's reaction, influence on the immune system, making you fever, full of fever, headaches, uncontrollable, shivering, nausea, vomiting. This is a controlled experiment all over the world. It's called the endotoxemia experiment, and people normally get sick. The scientists want to know if we are able as humans to get and tap into the immune system, and which we have shown with 12 people suddenly after thousands who could not.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Twelve people, I had trained. In a couple of days, they were able to activate the immune system deeply, control it, and bring down the fever, bring down the inflammation, bring down the headaches, down at all at will. So, that is the deep breathing exercises, gradual cold exposure, and the mindset. We got a free app for people to be served. With all the basics, with all the signs behind,
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Starting point is 00:13:11 You will not be sorry. All right, back to win. How long does it take you to set up your day with this method? Like, is it an hour? Is it three hours? How much of the day does it take up? And do you do it every single day? Half a day every day. No, 25 minutes.
Starting point is 00:13:29 25 minutes every day. I always say a cold shower a day, keeps the doctor away. Keep it simple, but straight. Really, it takes guts. and it takes mind-setting to go into a cold shower in the morning. This is simultaneous when you go into the cold shower for two, three minutes, then you have a vascular workout. We always take care of the muscles outside,
Starting point is 00:13:58 but there are millions of little muscles in our vascular system. Our vascular system is 100,000 and more kilometers, like 70, 80,000 of miles of vascular channels with millions of little muscles. And you only train them when you go into the cold. So a cold shower trains the inner workings, the inner transportation system that provides the blood flow to be helped through the system to reach out to all the cells, including the immune cells. what happens when you take a cold shower every day
Starting point is 00:14:42 is that you stimulate, you train those little, millions of little muscles in the vascular system, then the heart rate goes down with 20, 25, 30 beats a minute, 24 hours a day. That means stress out of there. You go into the stressful situation of two, three minutes of cold shower, which in the end becomes. addictive because you've got to feel so great and you're going to feel the strength and the healing
Starting point is 00:15:14 power. You will learn about that. It's all natural. It's all there. So you take those two, three minutes. You get this vascular workout. The heart rate goes down, stress goes out, and the transportation system is being activated and helped by these millions of little muscles.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Thus, it reaches with nutrients. oxygen and vitamins, the cells, and you get a lot more energy. So the stress goes down, energy goes up. That's a cold shower. You better do it. It's only two, three minutes. You've got to go into the cold shower anyway. When you take the shower and you do it freezing cold for three minutes,
Starting point is 00:15:56 can you turn it on hot after that or do you just recommend getting out of the shower after three minutes? I think after you do the cold, it is so nice and you are so nice. and you are so adapted that you have a different physiology activated within yourself that doesn't want to take the hot shower afterwards. Before you think, oh, it's going to be cold.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I sometimes do that. I love it. I love hot showers, big hot showers, but I love the cold as well. One of my follow-up questions was going to ask you if you actually had hot water pipes in your home before you just only had the cold
Starting point is 00:16:35 because you love the cold so much. Yes, it's like I don't like it warm, I like it hot. The cold right now is the new hot, too. So let's go back a little bit. What was your childhood like? Where did you grow up in? How did you discover this obsession with the cold? I think it was a trauma of my birth.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I'm sure, I'm sure. I've been talking with my mother about it. I was born traumatically. in a trauma, almost suffocated. I was born in the cold of a hall. As a little nothing coming out of the whim of my mother, I did not know anything of that. It's just deep trauma inflicted.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And it's there. It's like a tattoo on your soul. And you carry something, you don't know nothing. But why am I different than my identical twin brother? Because I had a twin brother. Why am I different? Because I was born completely different. I made a deep imprint.
Starting point is 00:17:43 That made me different. That made me a soul, surgeon. At the age of 12, I was into psychology, into Buddhism, into a lot of esoteric disciplines. Twelve years I was, I mean. And 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, I was. after a lot of debating and philosophying and trying to find this deeper sense within myself, this trauma, to find connection, I found it that day when I went into the cold ice water. You never know why when you are a soul searching, you don't know what you do it, but you do it anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:25 So that gut feeling following, I went into the ice water and I felt great. I felt connection. Connection with that cold hole when I was born. And with that, this is what you do when you go into the cold, you survive. You're there. That was being born. And I remember losing the way once, 25 years or no, 30 years later, swimming under the ice and losing the side of the whole.
Starting point is 00:19:00 hole, say 60 yards out of there was a hole and I couldn't see it anymore because my coroner froze and I lost the way I lost away man and I passed there past the hole and I tried to find it all the time all breadth hold in shorts under eyes meter thick like a yacht thick you can't do anything you're just there and be part of it and don't get pyroids. All that is survival. I was torn out, brought out by a dive who went in at the 60-yard hole and brought me back to the 60-yard hole. And then the first thing I did was back in life.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Those moments, you remember what happened at the trauma. and that made me able to understand if you are able if you are in control of your breath then death then there will be no agony and death you will be able to slip away like sleeping because that's what I found
Starting point is 00:20:17 from us anything in life if you really look for answers follow your breath. And you will find the answer. It's all there. You guys have been doing breathing just before this. We are the breath.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Without breath, we are nothing. The breath accompanies the soul itself. First thing we did when we came into life was the breath. The last thing will be, and the soul keeps on going. I say following the breath, you will find your soul. Let's talk about the breath a little bit because Lauren has been following your stuff for a while now, and she turned down to the breath, we've been doing it every morning. And honestly, during this time, you know, when we're all in lockdown and we're all a little bit more stress
Starting point is 00:21:08 and the world's in pain, it's been extremely helpful even for me to sit back and just take that extra time to reset and to quell that anxiety. So maybe we can talk about that a little bit. Yes. What you do with these breathing exercises, you activate. Through the holes, you activate the adrenal axis. It spikes. You know how much it spikes?
Starting point is 00:21:36 I will tell you, they compared blood-proof results from doing this breathing in the hospital, the blood-proof, the blood samples, with the people, adrenaline levels, together with a study which they did with people who went for the first time into a bungee jump. And lying on the ground, doing this breathing technique, spikes the adrenal levels more than somebody who's going into this first bungee jump. Is that why you kind of feel high? I mean, I feel kind of high and my toes tingle and like,
Starting point is 00:22:19 is that normal to feel that high? Is that what you're referring to? Sure, sure. That is not even, I'm not. referred indirectly yes but directly the body is in such a stress but you don't feel it the thing is you feel high but actually your body is an enormous stress this stress is more than you experience than you would experience when going into your first bunga jump okay you see but you felt high
Starting point is 00:22:55 and in a bunker jump you feel so the adrenal axis is being activated so high it spikes that it resets the body to its utmost of functionality that is what this exercise does it brings the adrenaline
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Starting point is 00:25:40 All right, let's get back to win. So what are the most common things that the body's cleansed up? I mean, you just touched on hormones. I think a lot of people that are listening would find this very interesting because, you know, we carry so much stress in so many different ways. So this exercise, as you said, it releases hormones. What else is it helping to release? Inflammation.
Starting point is 00:25:59 And the cause and effect of disease is inflammation. So sometimes we carry inflammation and we don't know. And it is there and it obstructs our functionality, but we cannot really sense it. This exercise is able to cleanse it all. and then you are in your best of your functionality. Does it replace meditation? They also compared this brain scans with brain scans of people who are doing four hours a day, mindfulness for years.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And it appears to be that these breathing exercises tap into deeper realms of the brain than those who do four hours a day for years. And what's the reason for that? The reason is because we bring the body, the body's neural activity and the blood flow into the deepest of the brain. So past all the rest, we bring it to the deepest of the brain.
Starting point is 00:27:12 That is the brainstem. And in the brainstem, the reptilian brain, the reactionary brain. There we have the opioids and the euphoric aneurys. And it was considered in signs that they were not accessible at will by humans. But recently we have shown how to get there and robustly activate. This is where mindfulness is not able to get. But we get there because we
Starting point is 00:27:46 controlled in a controlling, like being high, we stress up the body so much that we go to the survival part of the brain, which is the deepest part of the brain, and activated robustly and bring the body to its utmost of functionality. That means depression is not there, inflammation is not there,
Starting point is 00:28:13 the wrong hormones are not there, a deregulated immune system is not there, because it is all not part of being functional. It is very simple. It is very simple and very effective. If you do this and there is a growing problem, Michael, in the world about depression, it's growing, growing, growing. If you do this and you do it well, you get rid of that what causes depression, which is a deregulated hormonal system and inflammation,
Starting point is 00:28:48 which is affecting the immune system, goes through the brain blood barrier and creates imbalance in the dopamine, serotonin uptake. Whatever the names they got, they got no solution. And this will bring solution, as simple as it is. You talked about anxiety and depression. I had really bad postpartum anxiety. anxiety and I noticed that the breath work was helping me. I had a doctor tell me that the reason
Starting point is 00:29:18 I was having so much anxiety was my diaphragm was being blocked from breath. I have breast implants. And so he said it was like blocking my breath. Do you think that a lot of people's anxiety in quarantine right now is stemmed from not being able to get that deep breath in? Yes, yes, of course. It is. And it is also because they are. are now inhibited, where normally they go out, they do this, they follow their thoughts, and now suddenly they are not able to follow their thoughts. They have to stick around in one place and they have no control over their thoughts. They want to go out and they relate to physical movement and needs to have purpose, to go
Starting point is 00:30:05 to the shop, to go do this, go do that, and meet everybody there, etc. It's all social hormones and the blood flow, and they have no control. And that control, we can get back and with that a deeper control than before the whole COVID-19. Take it as an opportunity to get in and to get in connection with your body and with your mind the way nature meant it to be. that is fully being in charge and in control of your own mind and body. The rest doesn't make sense. Do you think so? You see what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:51 So speaking of COVID, because obviously we're living in unique times here, you brushed earlier briefly on the immune system and how in the cold, it helps boost the immune system. Can you go in depth a little bit about that and explain the benefits of the cold and boosting our immune system? Because more than ever, obviously, it's more important than ever right now. Everybody should take this up. The immunity on this, you know, a vaccine, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:31:21 not only far away, but it's no solution. It's not a solution because we still are having the same weak conditioning that is not able to cope with, say, a new virus, cabinet. It's waiting for a new virus. It's going to happen. It's bound to happen. The answer is what everybody should do and can do. And already scientifically has been proven is to boost up our immune system to a level
Starting point is 00:31:52 where bacteria and virus are being coped with in the beginning. When the virus begins, not too much is happening. At that moment you have to be able to intervene consciously through. these breathing techniques, they help the immune system to become alert. When it becomes alert, that it copes with the intruders, the virus or the bacteria. And it knows how to do it, because we have a immune system that is able to do that, only because we lived in too much comfort zone behavior, we have weakened the connection of our mind without our, immune system and now it is needed and it doesn't work and the doctors have no answer
Starting point is 00:32:46 and a pharmaceutical industry have no answer I tell you nature had the answer all the time and this is what I've been proving in scientific research only they don't want to take it up so swift because it doesn't make the famous money wow that must be pretty fresheny though, because you literally have such a gem that you want to share with the whole world, but people, it's almost like people, it's too simple for people. Yes, yes. So, podcasts like this, I take the window, you offer me, I show it. It is for free, it's there, you are born with it, with the ability to take away, your anxiety,
Starting point is 00:33:33 your fear, you're not having confidence within yourself, bring back connection, take over the mind. I mean, I did all these things in university studies, and then I showed it with groups of people. So it is scientifically there that we are able to do so much more. It is best that people notice that when they feel the beginnings of bacterial influence on the immune system, like fever, nausea, not nice, those are symptoms.
Starting point is 00:34:07 That's the time when you should be able to be alerted, hey, I have to act, not go to a doctor because they kill the messenger. They kill the symptoms. They don't kill the cause. And the cause is that you are disconnected and you are not able to extinguish a little fire which will become a big fire if you don't stop it. If you don't make use of your own inner power, your own inner physiology, the way nature equipped us with. And that's the problem now. And so we found this through the science. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:48 One of my biggest problems with the response to COVID, and it's a worldwide problem, is that there's been so much focus on the vaccine and the cure, and there's been very little conversation about how to boost your immune system and how to prepare yourself to fend these things off to begin with. It's always about after the problem occurs, well, then we'll come up with a medicine or a vaccine. But there's very little conversation about, hey, if you boost your immune system to begin. Yeah, you got it. And, you know, there's scientific studies right now that are coming out, which worries me also, that say,
Starting point is 00:35:20 if you have, people with boosted vitamin D levels, sufficient vitamin D levels are not as susceptible to this disease and they're not in virus and they're finding it off. And, you know, right now we're all being told to stay indoors. and that's concerning because of vitamin D obviously helps to fend this off and we're all indoors, getting deficient vitamin D levels, that's obviously not going to help fend off the virus. They are really groping in the dark and have us grope in the dark, in the artificial light of our houses. It doesn't give, it doesn't activate our vitamin D. We should go out, we should be in the forest. in the cold water is a real medicine.
Starting point is 00:36:04 It activates the adrenal access. Like in the beginning we talked, anything that should not be in the body is being evoked through going into cold water because your adrenal axis is being activated to survive. Not only survive, to take everything out what should not be there. And one thing that is COVID-19. In your perfect world right now,
Starting point is 00:36:28 Let's say, you know, and it was up to you to tell the world, like, hey, this is how we're going to deal with this. What would you tell people? We'd say, get outdoors, get in the cold, like, breathe, like, or would you say isolate like you're like, what would your solution be? I love the question. I love challenges always, and I am into it. I'm, guys, I've already shown in science how to fend off bacteria effectively, whereas thousands of people could not do it. I did it 100% school. And then I taught people to do it in a couple of days also 100% school.
Starting point is 00:37:06 So why not you? Everybody has this capability, thought of impossible. The whole industry is because we don't know that it is possible. But now it has been proven through science, only not implemented because it is powerful. The industry is powerful. They want to make money over us. and not really heal us because then they have no money. That's the logic.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And I think it's logical. It's like biological. People do this. But I tell you, right now, we have come up with new insights, through science, that everybody is able with easy-to-go techniques to boost their own immune system and have it within the control of their mind at will, everybody, just by simple techniques. And this is the magic key to reset the body. In resetting the body, you become master over taking out that what should not be in the body.
Starting point is 00:38:16 That is inflammation, oxidative stress, the wrong hormones, the wrong biological processes in the body. you become the alchemist through just breathing. Can it be so simple? Understand that it is simple. Simply there it is. Within everybody of us, we have the tools equipped by Mother Nature to fend off. Stress in any way. That means mental stress, emotional stress, bacterial stress, viral stress, emotional stress, emotional stress, any stress.
Starting point is 00:38:52 because that in the end is cell biological stress and we have the tools with our mind so in an ideal world I say be happy be strong be healthy as a guarantee are we able to get tap into that and guarantee that for ourselves and our sons and our daughters
Starting point is 00:39:13 yes we are we have come to that point it's beyond speculation it is there and I wish you to take it on because I want to spread the love composed by happiness, strength, and health, guaranteed. Doesn't the breath work too? And I could be wrong in saying this, but doesn't it work out your lungs, which is what we need right now? Like, doesn't it, isn't it so good for your lungs, which I feel like everyone wants to improve their lungs, right? Yes. And not only good for our lungs,
Starting point is 00:39:48 It exercises. I'm doing a study right now with people who are paralyzed, you know, spinal cord injuries. And they have deteriorating conditions with the lungs because they are lying all the day in their bed. So these breathing exercises do not only train the lungs, but the whole vascular system. It trains the people doing these breathing exercises the right way. It trains the vascular system just lying on the ground more than somebody who is running. You got that? Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:28 That's one. Then, number two, through doing these breathing exercises, you ignite or activate the adrenal axis. And adrenaline resets once again. Also, the lungs through the blood and the fluid. any error to evoke it from inflammation. So inflammation should not be there. When the adrenaline comes, it just gets it out of the system. And that is inflammation.
Starting point is 00:41:02 What is COVID-19? It's inflammation. Inflammation. And we have seen this in the university study. COVID-19. The damaging factors of COVID-19 is the interlequin number one. number six, number eight, and number 11. Those are interleukines, flammatory markers.
Starting point is 00:41:23 And we have shown in our study in 2013 how to get it down all these markers through breathing techniques. Now, but does it work like a pill, like instantly? No, no, no, no. That's not the way. Once the damage is done, once the damage is on, people are on intensive care, then they have weakened their condition to breathe at all.
Starting point is 00:41:52 So I say you have to implement this, give this to the people all over the world to whenever, and that is a natural thing, whenever some, when you feel something is wrong, then you start to do something. You don't. Oh, I feel myself wrong. Let me wait until tomorrow. Yeah, see if it is worse or not, and the other day it's worse and yeah, a little bit more, a little bit more. No, in nature, you need to function. What do you do when you feel wrong is make it right, right over there, but people don't know. So these breathing techniques, they are able to stabilize what is beginning to destabilize within the immune cells, within the blood, through a bacteria, through a virus,
Starting point is 00:42:45 which is messing with the cellular capacity to fend it off. It wants to encapsulate and to copy and all those things. And we, through the adrenal axis activation, are able to stabilize that. The effectivity on cell level to take out cell biological stress in any way, Could be emotional, could be mental, could be stress, could be the congestion, could be bacterial, viral, thermal, any. And it is all the same thing, cell biological stress. And we have the capability to stabilize that again. There's a lot of millennials that listen to this podcast.
Starting point is 00:43:31 How bad is it to wake up, open your eyes, and check your phone as the first thing you do in the morning? Yes, radiance. It is radiance. So the cell works like battery. We are composed by chemistry, and we are like potentials, like resonance. And if we come up with the radiance of a telephone, we begin to mess with the original right resonance of our cells. And it's beginning to destabilize the chemistry. And logically, we will be negative.
Starting point is 00:44:08 affected, that will end up in destabilizing the immune system. Then we become sick. And if this keeps on, we could get Parkinson, we could get Alzheimer's. We've become neurotic. We get a heart attack, deregulate the genome expressions in the lungs, and we get all these lung conditions they are talking about. But in the end it is, we have no knowledge of how to stabilize that what is being destabilized through all our things of nowadays technology, the way we live and the way what we eat. We don't know, we don't have this connection.
Starting point is 00:44:59 We don't feel within how to act upon that and what should not be in us. and stabilize it. We've talked about a lot, obviously, the cold and breath work, but one thing we haven't touched on that I know is extremely important with your practice and your method is mental toughness.
Starting point is 00:45:17 You know, you're not able to go into cold for hours on end or dive into ice cold water or take ice cold showers or discipline yourself to breathe without having some mental muscles and mental strength. For those that are listening, if you had a couple of tips, and I know this is something you have to work at
Starting point is 00:45:32 consistently in your life like a muscle, but for people that are like, oh, I don't know if I can get into cold or I don't know if I could take a cold shower and they're not mentally tough yet, which I think a lot more of us need us included. What would you tell those people? What are some tips to just train your mind to be strong?
Starting point is 00:45:47 I say a mind that is within control is your best friend. Your mind, which is not in control, is your worst enemy. That is to start with. Now, are we able to have control over our mind, not the way we are schooled. We have learned about history, mathematics, and language, and career moves and position yourself and all that. But we never learned how to be happy, strong, and healthy through mental control.
Starting point is 00:46:20 We never learned that. I always say if you are able to go to the deepest of your brain at will, at will, that is consciously, then what other place you cannot go to. You learn to access first into the deepest, and with that, you have to go to all the other places to get there. So, then it is in time that you will become the master over all your brain. And we have shown that already in brain scans, that these breathing techniques, they change the neural activity in the brain from 60% at will to 100%. Believe that? 100%. That makes much more sense than through evolution, having learned,
Starting point is 00:47:13 to have only 60% control over our brain, there is a possible 100%. And that is nothing more than natural logic. We are not here with a hump of meat that is not within our control. we only have never been schooled there is, but it is there. And the breath goes past our whole way of dealing with our body. This deep breathing and holding brings activation in the depth of the brain, and then the journey only begins. Because that new neurological pathways will be set into the stress mechanisms of the brain in control, because you are doing these breathing techniques.
Starting point is 00:48:01 You are doing this breathing, and you bring stress upon yourself while being I. You feel great, but you exercise the brain at that moment to the deepest, and you make a conscious neurological pathways toward it. You learn to control stress at that moment. You learn to control to activate opioid. Because what happens when you go without breathing, for two, three minutes.
Starting point is 00:48:29 That is deep, deep, deep, deep stress. That is painful normally. But we do it so that it is not painful, but you feel high. But for the brainstem, reactionary part of the brain, it says, Oh, you're dying. I'm not breathing. It's not a drama for the brainstem because it has no emotion. It's reactionary.
Starting point is 00:48:53 But then it shoots out the adrenaline to survive. And with that. We take away all the shit that should not be in our body. You mentioned earlier, you said that it takes 25 minutes of your day to set your day right. The audience really likes details. So can you truly walk us through the whole entire 25 minutes of what you do? So you wake up. Besides of your beloved, you give him a kiss or you give her a kiss.
Starting point is 00:49:26 and it's all great, you know, and you do the breathing together because it's nice. Synchronicity together. Nice, and it's even very good for the sex, too. I have to say, this is a different episode altogether. What's another one? That is just learn by experience.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Okay, okay. But the serious thing about this is about another shitty day, or a great day. What do you want? Begin and do this breathing. Determinantly,
Starting point is 00:50:03 just do it. Follow your breath, not your mind. Follow your breath. Your mind follows the breath. Then the breath goes everywhere. And your mind follows the breath. It gets everywhere.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And then you do the halt because we blow off the carbon dioxide, the CO2, the breathing trigger. We are making the body alpha, We breathe because we become acidic. Then we go and breathe again to become alkali. That's the functioning of breathing.
Starting point is 00:50:37 But now we alkalize the body so much that for long period of time we don't need to breathe. There's no need. Chemistry is okay and you have no need for breathing. But the brainstem doesn't know. The brainstem is about survival. They are about the opioids. about the cannabinoids, about the adrenal axis. So it says,
Starting point is 00:51:00 adrenaline, boom, reset. And that happens within seven minutes, they saw that we, in brain scans, compared to people doing mindfulness for four hours a day, for years, could not get and tap into the depth of the brain as we do in seven minutes. That means it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:27 It's amazing. It's simple. It's effective. You better do it because you alkalize your blood. You bring the right pH level. You take out the garbage. You are ready for the day anytime. That's the way you feel.
Starting point is 00:51:42 You can take on stress because there's the residual stress hormones. It's in our blood after working out, in our dream stays. It's cleaning up time. working out in the subconscious. That creates chemistry. It's all being cleansed. So you are ready because you are blank. You can take on a lot of shape because you've got space inside.
Starting point is 00:52:08 So it's all there and you got this axis without inhibition into your physiology. That means flow. Flow. You got simply flow. I know that it is there. 20 minutes of breathing. like three, four rounds. Oh, I've only been doing
Starting point is 00:52:29 10 minutes from your YouTube. Should we do the full 20 minutes? 10 minutes, 12 minutes, 20 minutes. I say something. It is very limited what you need to get into the depth of yourself. And when you feel good, you will not stop.
Starting point is 00:52:45 And then after you do the 20 minutes of breathwork, you then get in the cold shower. Yes. You get into, no, and set your, mind, the power of intention is so underestimated. People don't know. What is the power of intention?
Starting point is 00:53:01 What is this? Oh, no, that. Neurolinguistic programming. Oh, I need Tony Robbins. I need this. I need that. Man, I'm talking physiology. Physiology of the brain.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Your mind is a neurological muscle. It's a real muscle. It's neural activity. It's strong as a cable that feeds your television. that feeds right now the microphone. That's why I can see you. That is neural activity, electricity. We got that too.
Starting point is 00:53:34 That is the power of our thought. Begin to use it. Don't let you be used. Use it from this way to what you need. We are built to fulfill, to be able to realize whatever is inside of us. Well, that is the magic. I want to ask you if you can walk our audience through like two minutes of breathwork right now.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Can you do like could you give us like if they're in their car? Easy doesn't. Not a don't do it in a car. Because you will blow your mind, man. You will hit a tree or a car or whatever, you know, or some COVID patient there walking on the street. Who knows? Just having fun. for anybody who feels is getting into this disease,
Starting point is 00:54:25 it's like not at ease, but dis-ease, then you do this breathing. You do this breathing and you bring down that's what makes you dis-ease. Yeah? So how do you do it? Relax. We have a body.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Are you relaxed? Yeah. Oh, you become conscious. Oh, yeah. I'm in my body. I'm here. Nowhere else. Automatically you take one deep breath.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Just be here. Not in your mind, in the breath. That's why we are. Now we have a valley, we have a chest. We have a diaphragm and we have the chest. And we go deep with this. We go like this. Let it go.
Starting point is 00:55:15 We use our diaphragm, we use our chest. Fulian, let it go. Fulian, let it go. Fulian, let it go. Fulian, let it go. Keep on going. Fulian, letting go. Good, fully in, keep on going.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You become light-headed, looming the body, tingling. It's all okay. Because we are blowing off carbon dioxide. We are alkalizing the blood. The pH of the blood is going up right now. So that's what you do. You are becoming the alchemist, changing the chemistry. Keep on goal.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Your mind is in one place that is in the breath, not in the mortgage, not with your wife, not with your boyfriend, your man, your dog, or this or that. It's out of there. You're here with the breath. How simple. Changing your chemistry, that's what we do. We do 10 more, 10 deep breaths more, changing deeply, feeding all the cells.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Right now, this relaxed breathing is opening up the veins. It's relaxing. And a relaxed body is able to store up oxygen. And then the body becomes alkaline. And it opens up. to the lymphatic system, takes out the wrong chemistry, cleanses it, and it's all being blown off. So peace comes in, stress gets out. Because our mind is a neurological muscle, able to send out what should not be inside.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And you can feel what should not be inside, get it out. And you get the peace in, in the sense. stress you get out and that's the way it works five more fully in letting go fully in letting go three more fully in fully in letting go three more fully in letting go this is already pacifying parasympathetic nervous system activity last one Let it go. And stop. Close your mouth.
Starting point is 00:58:12 No smuggling. Just beam. Witness. Witness the rush you feel. That's your veins, your blood flow in your head, the neurology. You can feel it. It's a rush. You are alkaline.
Starting point is 00:58:29 That means positive pH. There's no need for breathing. Yet your body right now is. not breathing after exhalation, that is, inducing a stress to the brain stand, which is direct, and it's already being activated now. You're still without force, not breathing after exhalation. You're witnessing, no need for breathing. Yet your brain is highly alerted into survival.
Starting point is 00:59:02 It wants to reset the body to its utmost functionality. inflammation is going down right now. Okay, say five, four, three, two, one. Take them fully in. Hold, push it to your head. It's bringing cerebrospinal fluid to the midbrae. Extra blood. Three, two, one, let it go.
Starting point is 00:59:36 There we are. This is round number one. If we would do three rounds like this, you would increase the length of time, not breathing after exhalation. That is inducing deep, deep stress while feeling high, while feeling peaceful. That is the control of the mind,
Starting point is 01:00:01 to go into the deepest of the mind and to take a halt of all your body, And it's being done so simple. And this is what the world should know and do every morning. Mr. Wimhoff, we're going to definitely share all of this stuff. It's incredible. Thank you so much. Tell us where they can find your book.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Yeah, the book, October 20th, the Wimhoff method. Tell us all about it. I got the book actually received it yesterday. Show us. Yeah, it is downstairs. We'll link it. Yes. It is the whim-hoff method.
Starting point is 01:00:40 That's it. All of this stuff can be found in the book. All the stuff is inside. It's the whole life story, the science, the way we fundamentally change the science. The crazy stories I found myself, I mean, I was picnicking in the death zone on Mount Everest in my shorts, in freezing temperatures. How about that? Hey, man. How crazy can it go?
Starting point is 01:01:06 I love life. I'm crazy about life. And that's what I show that everybody should embrace the amazingness of himself in life. Because that is where we are. You guys download his app. I did it the other day with my baby on my chest. And my baby fell asleep on my chest because I was so relaxed. And also follow you on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Pimp out your Instagram. It's at Iceman, I'm underscore. Hoff? Yes, yes, it is. Wow, you got a baby? How old is he? She's three months. Oh, lovely. You're incredible. Thank you so much for coming on. That was so valuable. Next time you come on the podcast, it's going to be in person and we got to talk about sex. Anytime. I love sex. Sex makes the world go wrong, guys. It's no other way. Okay. I mean, I think we get a greater audience when I talk about how to increase your sex life in any way and the intimacy that goes with it. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:02:20 You are incredible. Thank you so much. We'll see you in studio next time. I'm going to hold you to it sex. Thank you. Yes. How well? Yes.
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