The Bossticks - The Key To Eliminating Inflammation, Supplement Quality, & How To Perform As Your Best Self Ft. Angelo Keely CEO of Kion

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

#902: Join us as we sit down with Angelo Keely – Co-Founder & CEO of Kion, a supplement company helping people look good, feel young, & be strong. From building lean muscle & losing weight to optimizing your diet, Angelo has guided us through it all—and now he's back to reveal the one supplement most of us are missing. In this episode, Angelo exposes the truth about inflammation, explains why supplement quality matters more than ever, & shares exactly what you should be taking to look, feel, & perform your best.   To Watch the Show click HERE   For Detailed Show Notes visit TSCPODCAST.COM   To connect with Kion click HERE   To connect with Angelo Keely click HERE   To connect with Lauryn Bosstick click HERE   To connect with Michael Bosstick click HERE   Read More on The Skinny Confidential HERE   Head to our ShopMy page HERE and LTK page HERE to find all of the products mentioned in each episode.   Get your burning questions featured on the show! Leave the Him & Her Show a voicemail at [phone].   To save 20%, go to http://getkion.com/skinny.   This episode is sponsored by The Skinny Confidential For a limited time shop 20% off our non-toxic clean candle at http://bit.ly/4nuyHLZ.    This episode is sponsored by SYNERGY Ready to get started on your very own gut health journey? Visit http://SYNERGYDRINKS.com to find your SYNERGY flavor today.   This episode is sponsored by Weight Watchers Join today at http://WeightWatchers.com.   This episode is sponsored by BLVD Visit join http://BLVD.com to learn more about Boulevard and book a demo to see if it's right for your business. And for a limited time, Boulevard is offering new customers 20% off your first year subscription   This episode is sponsored by Jones Road Beauty  Use code SKINNY at http://jonesroadbeauty.com to get a Free Cool Gloss with your first purchase!   This episode is sponsored by Mizzen+Main Go to http://Mizzenandmain.com and use promo code SKINNY20 to get 20% off your first purchase.   Produced by Dear Media

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Hello everybody. Welcome back to the skinny confidential, him and her show. Today we have our friend Angela Keely on the Skinny Confidential for the Four time, and as always, we're so excited to have him back on. In past episodes, we've covered everything from aminos and building lean muscle to weight loss, strength training, and the importance of diet. Of course, we'll link those episodes, or you can just search Angela Keely, Skinny Competential. But today, we're going to dive even deeper, going back to the basics and breaking down why all of it matters, getting down to the foundational supplements and routines that can change

your life and focusing on what really makes a difference in the long run that you can do consistently. With that, Angela Keely, welcome back to the Skinny Competential, him and her show. This is the skinny confidential, him and her. So you just got back from France. I never knew you lived there. Like in all the years we've known you and been on the show, you've never dropped that gem. I know you spoke French either.

Why as your performance say? Yeah, I guess I have to like just, I have to drip out the exciting stuff with you guys because again, I feel like I, each time I share something that's neat. You're holding back on us? I'm going to hold back. No, I'm not holding back. Man, I guess there's a lot of stuff to talk about.

Every time you come. on the show, the audience has so many takeaways. Like, they just love you on the show. There's so many tangible tips that you give them that they can apply to their own life. I'm always taking notes when you come on. And this one, we have all fresh, good questions for you. So get excited. And we're going to do a different format here. I'm testing it live with you for the first time. Uh-oh. After 900 episodes, it's the first time. So hopefully don't. Okay, so we're doing the intro now because this show is video format a lot of time now and people are like, what's going on? Who are they talking to? This is your fourth time, but let me do the intro as I've written it down.

Okay. I can't wait to hear. What? Let's try to be like take a breath, like recenter. Here we go. Okay. Angela, welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her show. This is your fourth time joining us. And as always, we're so excited to have you back. In the past, we've covered everything from aminos and building lean muscle to weight loss, strength training and the importance of your diet. We'll link those episodes in the show notes. I definitely suggest you guys check those out because again, fourth time on the podcast. But today we're going to dive deeper. Get back to The Basics. This whole episode's all about the basics. With that, Angelo,

Keely, welcome back to the skinny confidential, him and her show. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Lauren. Let's go. Let's do this. Is that like trying to show me how it's done? So the other day, she was trying to try to do it with Jenny McCarthy and she was like stumbling and scratch. So yeah, that's how it's done. No, I called her Jenny McCartney, like Paul McCartney. Oh my God. Because I can't pronounce anything. You know what? But like I do that. If I stumbled on that, I would have just kept, I would have like stumbled and kept going. People like it. This is, you know, we're pretty unedited on this thing.

All right. Which I like. I appreciate. I think, I think like the stumbling through things is actually real and fun and more entertaining than the perfectly said thing. So I like Jenny McCartney. Yeah. I mean, it's maybe offensive. A lot of guys do.

Oh, you like how I say it. Yeah, like how you say. It's just maybe offensive if you say it and you mispronounce the person's name when they're right there. I know. I was talking to my best friend, chat GPT. Uh-huh. Literally chat GPT knows me better than my husband. Like me and chat GPT are tight.

And so I was telling chat GPT all of the supplements I take. I literally went through every single last butthole hair of what supplements I take and how I take it. I was explaining when I take it. And it's so interesting because I said I want to make sure that I'm continuing my hair growth journey and my nail journey. And it said the only supplement. that you're missing is Omega because I wasn't on the Omega train yet.

And I started really learning about Omega's. This is a while ago, maybe like two months ago. And it said that omegas are so good for scalp health. I learned all this stuff. Like it's good for inflammation, your gut, et cetera, et cetera. And so I thought who better to have on the podcast to give us all the list of omegas? Why does everyone need omegas? And, and I thought, and I thought, you better. And in their diet. Wow. That's a big question. And I think the quick, like, simplest answer is there is nothing nutritive that you could add to your diet that would lower inflammation in your body than omega-3s. It's so weird because my whole, like, brand is about being puffy. And I wasn't prioritizing the omega's like I should. And that is like the main thing, the inflammation, huh?

Well, it does a lot of things. Like, I think originally it got studied for what it did to heart health, to brain health. So like 30% of the fatty acids in your brain. And this is why it's endorsed so much for like pregnant women to take it, to take a lot of it if you're if you have young children, if you're breastfeeding, to give it to your kids, is made of DHA, which is one of these omega-3s. It's like it's a huge portion of your brain. But that's why it's great for brain. For heart, they've known that it basically, actually here's the simplest way of describing it. Omega-3s, there's two really important ones, EPA and DHA. So whenever we're talking about omega-3, just know like those are the two I'm talking about.

Okay. They basically make up your red blood cells, a portion of them. So like fatty acids, these different types of fats, there's saturated fat, which is like the fat you typically associate with like animal fats, there's mono-unsaturated fat. If you think about like olive oil, there's omega-6s, there's omega-3s. And there's certain type of omega-3s, which comes from fish or from certain types of algae, can make up a portion of your cell, of these red blood cells.

the more that it makes up of that red blood cell, the easier it is for that red blood cell to basically be flexible and move around. So it really significantly improves heart health. It keeps your red blood cells from being as stiff. So it has a huge impact in cardiovascular health. But the other really bigger thing that's really, I think, been more uncovered in the last 20 years is that the more omega-3s that you have in your blood, overall, the less inflammation that you have. And basically, these omega-3s, they have these metabolites that are not just like an anti-inflammatory. Like if you think about taking like a drug, like an ibuprofen or something, it basically stops inflammation.

If you can imagine, I don't know, like inflammation as a crew fixing a pothole in the middle of the street. Basically, ibuprofen would come and be like, stop, everyone go home, but you still got like a hole in the middle of the street that didn't get fixed. And what omega-3s do, they have these pro-resolving mediators and reactants. They go in and they don't just say stop. They literally speed up the healing process and they get it to complete more quickly. So rather than just getting the inflammation to stop, they actually heal. And they create the situation which the inflammation basically resolves entirely. Like nothing else really does.

And sorry to get back to beauty, Michael, but you like this too. What's with the scalp thing in the hair? Well, the scalp thing in the hair, I think again, mostly comes back again down to like the inflammation piece. When you have major issues around inflammation, it basically is. inflammation is, I mean, I think functional medicine doctors kind of get like hit on like, ah, they talk about inflammation too much, but legit. Like if you look at cardiovascular disease, cancer, type two diabetes, dementia, but then also things like more vanity-based things like your skin, your hair, et cetera, chronic inflammation negatively impacts all of them and leads to

all of them. And so if you can just reduce the overall chronic inflammation in your body, you're going to get improvement in all of these areas. This may be like a really dumb way to, or I guess to dumb it down. But I just think of inflammation as your body needing to take way too many resources to heal areas or to focus on areas or to life. So it takes the focus off areas that it could be focused on to heal. Meaning like if I'm inflamed all the time, my body's constantly fighting that inflammation, which is going to distract it from taking care of the other things.

It needs to really take care of. By the way, you're never inflamed. Like I've never seen him. You are never inflamed. And well, I think I mean, personally, I work, funny enough, I don't even know, I work on that a lot from like a dietary and supplemental perspective. Like, and tell me if I'm wrong, there's a correlation between like the ratios of omega-6 and omega-3s, right? Like, where you don't want to have the ratio being too far off because, you know how to say it means you're more inflamed or likely to be more inflamed. Is that correct? That's kind of correct. We used to think that the big issue was that you wanted this ratio of omega-6. is an omega-3s to be better. Like more even.

Yeah, more even. And this is even kind of at the heart of some of like the seed oil debate and why seed oil might be so bad for you. But what's much more clear in the last 10 years is that what's really important is just the amount of omega-3s in your blood. So when you talk about that ratio, what you're really talking about is if we were to measure the red blood cell and see what the wall of it is made of. What percent of it is literally made of omega-3s and what percent of it is made of omega-6s.

What you see is that it's less important what the ratio is and what's more. More important is that you don't want to be like the typical American where only 4% of your red blood cell is made of omega-3s. You want to be double that. You want to be 8% all the way up to like 12% is really like an ideal ratio. And you need to either eat way more fatty fish. So this is not like tilapia. This is like salmon, sardines, anchovies, things like that, like a lot of servings per week. Or you need to be looking at supplementing.

And when you do, then you get these way higher levels of the omega-3 that make up your red blood cells. and then that leads to the slower inflammation. Tell me what I was trying to say when I say, like, basically inflammation makes it harder for the body to heal. Yeah, okay. So maybe just the big question is what is inflammation? So I think most people can understand if you are running and you trip and you're spraying your ankle and it swells up. There is inflammation going on there. And basically what happened is that there's a part of the body that got injured.

There's the tissue got stretched, torn, hurt. And inflammation is the healthy immune response to the body. to say, send lots of blood there. These things called cytokines start being activated. It's basically all of this attention to try to resolve and to help the area that got injured. That is a good thing. And actually, that's kind of part of the reason why you might want to not take just an anti-inflammatory. Like, if you're really in pain, you need the pain to go away, you could take something like an ibuprofen.

But when you do that, you're stopping that inflammatory response, which is actually a good thing. It's trying to heal the sprained ankle. The issue, though, is that in the contemporary, world that we live in and with the modern diet, when you start to stress your body in these really continuous ways, if every day you eat too many calories, if every day you eat a lot of sugar, if every day you eat a bunch of added fat, if every day you introduce chemicals into your body via foods, via clothing, via all the other ways that we get these things into our body, you're suddenly starting to create the situation where your body is getting really

reactive to all those things. And it's in this fight or flight. mode and it's basically activating this kind of lower grade inflammation inside of your body throughout. And that core idea, which we can actually measure this. So it's not like this made up woo thing. Like you actually can look at this thing called C-reactive protein levels in your blood, enderleukin levels. Like you can actually, there are these key indicators that that show you exactly how much inflammation is occurring. And when those levels are higher, you get higher rates of cardiovascular disease, dementia, cancer, type 2 diabetes, all these terrible things. So the idea is inflammation on its own is not a bad thing. Inflammation at the sight of an

injured, you know, ankle is a good thing. It's the body's natural response. It's when you introduce kind of consistently lots of bad behavioral lifestyle things that you raise the amount of inflammation in your body in general, and that's what causes all these bad diseases. Or it's so strongly correlated to all these bad diseases that it seems pretty causal. How'd you learn all this? I read a lot of stuff and I care. So you just research on your own. Like that is like you will read, you will just study it. Because you're using all these words. I'm just like, how does he know all this? It's like a wealth of knowledge. I mean, I really like, I don't know what to say other than like, I really. You just love it. I don't, I at the heart of like whatever is driving me is I really want to live a good life.

and I don't want to live a good life that's just like some nerd, I don't know, needing to know every physical metric of everything that happens that's going to impact my life. But like in generally, like I want to be at peace every day. Like I want to wake up. I want to smile. I want to have enough money and take care of my family. I want to like spend time with my kids. I want to be physically vibrant enough to like play sports that I like.

I want to like be in a good mood. I want to be bummed out all the time. And so with that, I've like chosen a line of business that provides opportunity to create a those things and where I get to study and learn about stuff and work with really cool scientists and make myself more knowledgeable about these things so I can make better decisions for myself, but then also make products that do that. So it's kind of like the whole, like I think I'm just trying to get like the life that I want. It's like you're merging work and kids and fun and family

and peace. Well, one of the things we wanted to talk to you about and, you know, this is your fourth time being on the show. And again, I highly suggest you guys check out those episodes. If you just search Angelo's name, you can find them, is that thinking about your company and you specifically, one thing that we were talking about when we're planning for this episode is we've done so many of these shows. And I imagine many of our listeners and viewers, their pantries are stacked with all sorts of supplements and all sorts of different products that we've used and that we take. But one of the questions that we get now after so many years is like, well, what are the basics? What are the things you're consistent? Like, if I could only recommend a few things,

And when I was thinking about you, I was like, you've really built a company for a long time now that focuses a lot on the basics. And so my question is, was that by intention? And how do you think about developing products? Because at this point, you could probably develop anything you want in the supplement space. But like, why this particular slate? I mean, it really is for the reason that you said. It's like, what are the most important supplements that are actually worth taking consistently on a daily basis that I want to take in my own life? and I want to give to my family and to my kids, etc. And so if I'm able to make that product that I really love and I care about and is great,

like there's a passion play in that. That's awesome. But also from a business perspective, it's not, you know, it's not as cool and sexy as maybe like making the newest, cutting edge, breakthrough, blah,

blah, whatever supplement, which has unique business opportunities to it. Because like you can leverage these really hot topic stories to sell any kind of product you're trying to make. But from like the basis of, of like, I just want to build like a good business. Like I want my business to be like real. Like someone gives their hard earned money for this product because it actually makes their

life better and it's worth taking every day. Then it's a very good business model too. You know, it's like it's something that's actually worth someone buying and taking every single day for a long time. Well, then that's like a really valuable customer. It's actually a really good business. And it's also like I have integrity with I'm not making some kind of bullshit that like someone doesn't actually need. No, I mean, let me. and I, we take the mango aminos ever since we've met you every day. We don't take any other aminos. I call it candy water to my kids. And everybody that knows that's in our life knows, like, they'll joke with us. Like, yeah, I got the mango aminos. But it's got to be mango. But it's

because one, we've met you. I think you did the capsule some too. You guys. We do the capsule. No, I do the capsules at night. Uh-huh. I'm, I'm, I'm gnarly with my aminos. I want to, I might be your, like, like a grasshopper. I take like probably seven aminos at night and two scoops of the mango with a scoop of creatine every time I work out. That's a lot of aminos. That's awesome. That's a great daily habit. I believe that's why your hair looks so good. But the reason is, we've know you, we've met you, we know the qualities there, but I think about for all your products. And so when I was looking like, I know what you sell obviously, but as we prep for every show, I went and looked back and I was like, oh, I wonder if there's like a thought

process to how you come out with this. Is it like, hey, I need the staples and I don't trust anyone else to give me the staples. So you've kind of created that. And it's basically that. And that, yeah, I think even sometimes is the question why someone's like, why do you have a coffee? You know, and it's like, well, I drink coffee every single day and a lot of coffee out there is not good to drink every single day, you know, whether it has pesticides or traces of mold or other types of contaminants in it. And so why that might not seem as clearly related, like you think about like aminos and omega. Like they really make sense. Like omega literally is this core. And, Omega-3s, Kono-O-Mega and Omega-3s are this, is this key fatty acid that if you take it

every single day, it is highly likely you're going to have way better health outcomes. Like, you look at the observational data, and it's like literally add five years to your life. The people with higher Omega-3 index, meaning in their blood, it's measured. And then they've administered these kinds of high-quality omega's two people and seen the index go up. So it's like, it's clearly it's this good thing. And there's a bunch of crap omega on the market. Like if you go to or the pharmacy, and you're looking for like a cheap product, it's literally like half the potency

of what something like this is. Even good brands are like 75% the potency, or they have really weird stabilizers in them or weird, not as ideal antioxidants that help preserve it. And so similarly, like with aminos, it's like there's a bunch of just junk out there that's not really good.

And on a same level, it's like with aminos, if I really, if I personally want to age and I want my whole family to age all the people I care about, and to have way more healthier lean muscle. And also the vanity stuff, like hair and skin and nails and all the stuff. And I know that the core of the science is that as we age, protein does not work as well as it used to work. It's like there is a reason to supplement because it literally will make it, like, it works

better than any amount of protein you're going to try to eat as you get older. Like those three things all make sense and they're worth it. And like creatine, same thing. It's like you add creatine to your diet every single day. And you're going to think better. You're going to be fitter. You're going to be stronger. It's going to be easier to exercise.

So it's like rather than being some like perfect formula, like I'm going to, I did not come at it from a perspective of like this, some super strategic marketing, like domination of the market. It was more just what are awesome products that are worth taking every day. What are the potential downsides if you take a bad omega? I know, I think Huberman at one point was talking about like if you're, if you take a bad Omega and it's like rancid or if the oil, like what, what are some of the risks if you end up with a with a bad quality omega? I mean, I think the biggest risk is that it is already rancid and oxidized

before you even put it in your body. And you're burping fish. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty grow. I mean, first of all, it's disgusting if you take a cheap omega and you have like the fish burps, you taste fish burps. Literally with Keone Omega, I can chew it. I can put it in my mouth and crack it open and it tastes totally clean. And I do that every day to like, that's like my own little like verification of I want to make sure the product's always like the best. Like if you do that with most omegas, it will, it will taste gross. You'll have this gross fischiness flavor. But then the oxidation thing is like it creates actually has the risk of creating more inflammation. You consume these rancid oils. It's like it's a similar reason to again, maybe the fears around consuming like a seed

oil that's been refried and reused multiple times in some type of like industrial situation. It's a similar type of concern. Where do you think people go wrong when they think about building their supplement cabinet or like their supplement stack? Like someone who's been in the space, like what do you think the most common mistakes are? I think. Good question. Yeah, that's a, that's a great. Yeah, I mean, I think from like a behavioral standpoint, it's like just surfing Instagram and getting sold whatever you get sold. And you're just buying these things and stacking these things. You don't even remember why you were buying them or what you were buying. I mean, I think that's the main thing versus actually like taking a more thoughtful approach. And I would bring this back to nutrition too and to exercise and be like, what are my goals?

What am I trying to do? What will help me, you know, feel better and exercise better and live longer? I think the tricky thing is it takes a lot of time. Like, it just takes a lot of time and you got to read a lot or you got to have a really good doctor or trainer, like really trusted people. So I think outside of that, like if you can, I mean, devote your time to like, you only got one life, you know, and you get older and it deteriorates over time, and the more you can invest in your health, I think every, if you ask any old person, right, who's like over 70 years old, they almost all say, I wish I, like, health is wasted on the young. I wish I'd spent more time on that. So I think spending a bit more time to actually try to understand it and not just

buy every product. What are like the standout details of what they're doing wrong, meaning like, you're like, oh, I see this. Like the supplements? Yeah, be like, call, like, call, you don't have to call it the brands, but be like, you don't need, you know, whatever. Well, I mean, I think just starting back with what I think are worth your time. I really do believe that some type, if you want to, some type of really high quality protein powder is worth it. It can be worth it. An essential, a leucine enriched essential amino acid, which is very important, like what that formula is, it can be worth it even more than the protein powder. And then you got creatine, it's worth it. Omega three fish oil is worth it. Again, all these are like kind of a premium level. When you start to get out

of that realm, I think it depends. You know, it's like a multivitamin could be worth it. It kind depends on what your diet is like, how many vegetables and fruits you eat. If you don't really eat vegetables and fruits, I would probably look at taking a multivitamin. But you start getting into things like collagen. Collagen is this highly marketed, super, you know, huge product category. And at the most fundamental level, there's not that much research other than very much like industry-sponsored research that shows that consuming this is actually going to help you develop that much more collagen or have these really good end results. So I think I'm skeptical of that as like a big one, you know. I look at it like this. Like if somebody comes to me and they just

started like maybe making a living or saving a little bit of money and they're like, all right, I'm ready to start like investing into high risk startup environments. I'm like, well, like before you layer that in, let's like look at the savings account, the emergency fund. Let's look at the say for, like, look at the basics. And I think sometimes in the supplement space, people jump to the stuff that's not so basic. It's more acute. Right? They're like, I need to get into this one specific thing. And it's like, well, if you, if you cover the foundations, which is why I like your product line, like, if you take the right amino profiles and if you get the good amount of protein and if you have create, like, you can maybe, like, you maybe don't need to jump to the

sleep stack if you're doing the right amount of creatine and working out and take, you know what I mean? I think that's a great thought. And so that makes me think, I think I have a better answer for you. So I think my my core answer would be rather than someone selling you, like when you get sold something, it's like this new breakthrough and they've got this new study behind it, just note that it's like they've got one study behind it. Most of my life, when I try to make decisions about like what I'm actually going to like do, it's not from like one insight that I had like one day. It can be. But typically it's like, well, what have I seen over and over and over again in my life? Like what has made me happy over and over and over again?

What has made me sad over and over again? What is what behavioral things like in my relationships have like caused problems? And I try to make decisions based off that. And I think whenever you get like sold this new sexy idea of this like perfect new supplement that's going to target this very specific thing, I would be skeptical. I'm very skeptical of like any new like you, I think very targeted solution with like very new recent research. Instead, I look more towards like what's been studied for a long time and clearly has like a lot of benefit.

And that would be a good place to start. And that doesn't mean that like the new thing with the very niche targeted like benefit isn't going to work at all. But yeah, it doesn't make sense to start there when there's other insights that are like, dude, like eating more protein is like it's definitely worth it. Like it's very, very clear. Is this like NAD supplement like going to also be important? It could be, but I think it's clear that your daily protein and essential amino acid intake or your daily omega-3 intake is more important. And that's why it's been studied so much more.

We have so much more research around it and results around it. And that doesn't mean that all that stuff could change someday. But it's like, yeah, rather than just like, I think chasing these really niche new startup things. And they think there's like a magic, but I was talking to a close friend of mine and he was, you know, he's working. on getting his health in line and like really starting to take it seriously. And he was like, tell me about the NAD. And I love NAD personally. Yeah.

But I was kind of telling him like, hey, there's like a lot of other things I would do prior to jumping into just the NAD, right? Like a lot of things we're talking about. There's a lot of supplements I would recommend that are more cost effective before doing that. I feel like sometimes people think like they're going to jump to the end with these kind of like one off and I just keep using the word like acute solutions and it'll like solve everything. I know the foundational boring, consistent stuff is what I think moves the needle the most.

Similar to behaviors. Like, I think what you said, like, if you're not, if you don't really sleep that well, you're going to have all kinds of issues during your day. But how am I going to start sleeping? Well, the first thing you do is you'd make sure you exercise. You make sure you try to eat a good, healthy diet. You make sure you, like, don't have screens right before bed. Like, there's kind of basic stuff that you would do, right?

And so I think supplements kind of fall into that same spectrum. Like, what are the basics to try to take care of first versus the really new on? And again, that doesn't mean don't do an AD. And again, I wasn't trying to challenge it as like, I think it's actually one of the more legit, legit new, you know, kind of sciences. I really don't want to feel like I'm going to shit my pants with an IV in my arm. I don't know. There's something about any... You've never done it. You know, that's what it feels like. I've heard from multiple people that you feel this weird tightening in your stomach with,

I'm not an IV person unless I'm dying sick. It doesn't appeal to me. But I would get maybe, I would take like a, what is it called? syringe of it. I would try a syringe. No, but it doesn't feel... I don't want to feel like... You don't mind IVs, but syringe is like you're like you're like you'd prefer like self administering a syringe. I hate needles more than anything in the whole world. If I had

to choose between an IV and a syringe, I'm choosing a syringe but it cannot be in the arm. It has to be in the butt. Michael have to squeeze it. She doesn't like the idea of like they're being like a pathway out of her body. That's like artificial. How does no one talk about this? I talk to chat GPT about it every day. I, I've actually had a whole. I've actually had a whole whole like therapy with it about why I don't like needles.

I better check in on chat. I want to ask you something that I've been dying to ask someone. I feel like you're the perfect person to ask this. What about the stuff that's around the capsule? Meaning to me, I have a lot of supplements. If I'm taking that every single day, is there stuff we need to be worried about with microplastics or lead or all these different things? I really think about the around.

the capsule all the time. That's a great question. So what I would say is the more premium of a brand you're going to go with that's like a very like clean label brand is likely going to be focused on having some kind of non-GMO hyper mellows type thing. So these types of things are plant derivatives and they are, I think they're clean. They're clean and you don't have to be worried about like lead levels, et cetera. And they end up being part of the testing as well that gets done. But what do you have to look for as a consumer from other brands. Well, so one of the thing I was going to say, too, is like, and with a capsule like this, it could be like a, like a gelatin, like a bovine gelatin. And again, it's going to go through all these types of testing. I think the, you're just going to

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But I would recommend someone take a high quality expensive supplement over, like if you're going to take a supplement. And if you're going to go the cheap route, I would just say you're maybe better off not spending the money at all. I would agree with that, especially if it's a daily supplement you're going to take for a long time. Like I'd save your money because maybe it's not the right formula. Maybe it's not as healthy. And listen, there's all these scams on Amazon now if you're buying stuff that's even from the company, you have to really like make sure you're going to like the company store and not just like getting a random label. People take advantage. I guess what I'm saying is cheap companies take advantage

of consumers in the supplement space and provide them in many cases products that aren't doing what they're saying they're going to do or they have such low potency that like maybe you're better off saving your money. Yeah. And I think on that same point, brands that are not really trying to even be a brand. Like they're not they're not going on podcast and trying to educate people about, you know, like a whole, you know, domain of nutrition, et cetera, or they're not really in the long game. There's a lot of bad actors on Amazon and other spaces where literally they're just trying to make a quick buck. Do you die when you see it? Oh, man, it's tough. It's tough because it's like, I've literally, so one thing, like, for a long time, it's like, man, it'd be really cool if we can make amino's gummies.

And it's like, I want to do it. And I spent a lot of time and money on it personally, like, R&Ding it and trying to get samples, et cetera. And the tough thing is like, it's just a lot of raw material. And it tastes strong. Like aminos, it's hard to flavor. It's hard to get the mango flavor to taste so good, truly. And so trying to do the gummies, it was like, it was turning into so many gummies and it was just hard to flavor. And it's like, man, we're going to have to use sugar to get it to taste good. And so at some point, I was like, this is just like, this is not worth it for mass market for maybe like bodybuilders would do it or something, but it's not, like, I wouldn't do it even, you know? And then I went online, I started looking and there's like all these amino's gummies.

About a year later. And I went and I just bought them all. And literally, none of them even tasted like amino acids. And the amounts that they were saying in it was more than what it even weighed on the scale. So it would be impossible for it to have the quantity of the amino acids that it's saying it has because it doesn't even weigh that much on the scale. So like literally, and they have like a thousand reviews. So everybody's lying? I'm not saying everyone's lying, but I would just say like I would definitely look for

trusted brands. Like trusted brands matter. And to clarify, I don't want people to be like. like, oh, easy for you. Like you have money, you can buy supplements. What I'm saying is, if take the money aside, you don't want to end up spending any money on a bad supplement that is poor quality that is not going to work. You're better off savings. So when I look at supplements, I look for trust in quality. And if it's a little bit more expensive, I understand maybe because it costs more to produce. And it's like, I'm looking for that if I'm going to go into a supplement

as opposed to like, oh, there's the cheap one or the Amazon or whatever version. Because I feel like it's just like kind of pissing money down the drain. It's pissing money down the drain or it could potentially even be harmful. I think one point I would just make, and I agree, like, I think fundamentally what I would encourage people to do is move your body every day, hang out with people you love, find people that you really love and like and try to spend time with them and then eat real foods, like eat fruits and vegetables and I would advise animal proteins, but if you want to do something different, it's like, and smile a lot and be in the sun. Like that is fundamental. Then you start looking at supplements. And what I would say is it is hard sometimes to, if you really want to live

like the longest life and you want to be as healthy as possible, to get the amount of, let's just go back to the omega thing, the amount of like omega three in your blood, the level you'd want it to be in order to be at these higher levels, you'd be eating like at least eight servings of fish, fatty fish per week. That's a lot of fish. That's a lot of fish. That's a lot. Also like here's the problem with the fish thing. I started eating tuna all the time. I started eating tuna fish. Yeah, but tuna's not really what a little chopped cornish in it, a little chopped apple. Sounds delicious. Sea salt, a little black pepper, little mustard. Guess what? Can't eat too much tuna because of mercury. Yeah, but tuna's not really the right profile we're looking for it. We've got to be salmon, sardines. You like sardines. You like sardines.

I love sardines, but like anchovy. I'm a big anchovy person. There are issues and concerns around, though, like mercury toxicity, even from all these other. Less from like the small fish, like less from anchovy sardines, but even from like salmon and other types of freshwater larger fatty fish. But yeah, there's these other risks from that as well, which you avoid when you get the supplementation. But even from a pure like cost, like the cost of taking a quality omega supplement and taking two capsules a day, which is the equivalent of eating like this eight servings,

even more than eight servings of fish per week, like it's a lot cheaper. Like fish is expensive. Yep. You know? So I think it's also just about understanding all these costs, you know, and rather than, it's funny the things we'll spend money on sometimes. It's like, I'll spend money on these certain clothes or car or alcohol or whatever versus

like what's actually going to create the best life for you. And maybe it is. Maybe you like love, I don't know, cars or going out to concerts or whatever the thing is that makes you happy, like do that. But I would just say like on the supplement front, again, it's one of those things like if you're going to put it in your body every single day, like, don't go cheap on it. Either just like, don't do it or like do it well. I just looked at my credit card statement and guess what I spend the most money on.

I actually don't know. What is it? What is it? Yes. I don't know. Yes. You know. Well, I'll say what our family is.

Yeah, go. It's shocking. It's food. Food. We spend. That's good, though. Yeah. Because food, you won't have good quality food.

Yeah. But it's like so much. I mean, yeah. What is it? I'm like, how do we spend? That's what mine is. or something? Just, yes, you're in the right.

You're getting hot. I don't know. Cranial sacral. Really? I told you. That doesn't make you feel great though? I'm having a moment. It's not just for me.

It's for my kids. It's for the baby. It's amazing. So there you go. It's worth it then. Have you tried it? I have not done it in probably like 20 years. You got to try it.

Yeah, I mean, when I, like, growing up in Austin and being part of having super hippie parents and actually like my girlfriend in high school, her mom had a massage school. And so I was like, I grew up being exposed to all of it. So I had criniosacral like in my early 20s, but I haven't had it in like 20 years. This is your sign to go get. I'll give you, I like who I go to. I think, you know, spending money on health and wellness and yourself is always going to pay dividends. Nobody's going to pay that clip. This is why I wanted to bring it up. I'm going to play that clip when he sees the cry card fell. I don't think to your point earlier, nobody at the end of their life is going to get to the end, especially if they end up being sick and unhealthy and saying,

man, I wish I would have like, I'm glad to have more money, but I'm glad I didn't spend money on the wellness. Everyone would spend money on taking care of themselves. Quick question. With people that have dementia and Alzheimer's in their family, should they really consider taking omegas more than most people? Absolutely. What I would say is that, and again, it's kind of hard to go through. Again, Omega 3 is so fundamental of a supplement, like one that I would so highly advise for so many cases, but specifically the correlation with lower incidence of dementia is significant with the more omega-3 that you have specifically in your red blood cells. So it's like, yes. But I would say regardless of that, because here's the other point I make.

So maybe there's a genetic predisposition in someone's family. But what I would say is overall, all of us are exposed to so much more of this kind of chronic systemic inflammation in our bodies that we're all at higher risk of all of these types of diseases. And as we get to live longer, because we have other good forms of Western medicine that prevent us from, you know, dying in other ways, we're going to, many of us will get to be 70, right? We'll get to be 80. And if you want to avoid the risk of that occurring, then I'd say to everyone as like kind of a preventative measure, it makes a lot of sense to start omega-3s early in the life. This is not just the kind of thing where it's like, oh, I don't want this to happen to my mom who's 60, so I'm going to get her on it now.

It's like, no, when you're 30 started, when you're 20 started. So regardless, everyone should do it, but if you have somebody that's affected in your family, like, it should be an indication to, like, really jump on it right away. I think in general, like, if it seems like there's a genetic predisposition for anything in your family, like, take it more seriously. Why is it so important to take fish oil supplements that are cold water fish? So the big idea is that there's all different places where you could get the fish from and the types of fish. And basically, when you get these small cold water fish like anchovies, sardines, you get a much, you get a much smaller fish that has less exposure to pollutants from human beings and they've had less time to

absorb those pollutants so when you take the oils out of them you don't get any of the pollutants see i'm michael this is why i order extra anchovies on my salad at jeffreys she does she orders doubles them up do you want to remove or some of the size she's like no double them and you're getting your omega-3s and your like natural electrolytes all the salts i'm having i have four of your omega's when I take it. Is that okay? Yeah, it's great. That's actually ideal. Yeah, that's ideal. What happened to us as a species that we need to supplement with omega's now? Like, do we just not get them in our normal day-to-day diet anymore? Or is it's a great question. So what I would say is some societies still do. So when you look at Americans, the mean average, meaning if you average everyone

together, it's about 125 milligrams of omega-3s that we get in our diet. But when you look at the median average. So you don't like just blend the people who use a ton that people don't use much. You're just like, what's the most common frequency? It's less than one. It's like basically zero. People don't consume any. If you compare that to the Japanese, the Japanese on average are 950 milligrams, almost a gram. Wow. That is a big, from like zero. Not a lot of inflammation going on over there. And on average, they live five years longer. And guess what else? They have higher hypertension because they are just kind of more stressed out. They smoke more than we do significantly. And they still live five years longer. So it's not that all societies have less, but societies that typically are further away.

Basically, the only place you get these omega-3s, EPA and DHA, is from like marine animals and plants. It's from fish, from fatty fish, and you can get it from allergy. But historically, we didn't get it from algae because it's a lot of processing to get that. So societies that eat more fish have more of them. So I think it's less that like we were getting a bunch before and now we're not getting them. I mean, if you probably looked 100 years ago, people living in Kansas, they weren't getting. enough, but they weren't living to be 65, 70, etc. They had much harder lives. They were dying from even other causes. So I think it's more of this thing that we can, that we've uncovered over time,

that if you want to live a long time and you want to avoid these types of very common chronic illnesses, you can't avoid it by increasing the amount of EPA and DHA that you have in your blood, increasing these omega-3s. It's not that like we used to have a bunch and now we don't, some societies have like the Eskimos have, the Japanese have, and they have amazing health outcomes from it. So it's less that like something dramatically changed and it's more that we never were getting them. On the flip side of that, what I would say though is a hundred years ago, you also didn't have people over consuming the amount of calories every day that they do now because you didn't have the amount of processed foods with all these added sugars and added fats that made

people become addicted and eat so much more. And when you eat that much more food, your body is that much more inflamed in general. And you have maybe an even greater need to try to overcome it with these anti-inflammatory, these natural anti-inflammatories that are omega-3s. Yeah. I mean, like it's, I mean, it's such an issue in the world. I mean, I watched this video today on Instagram or it was in the news. And it was a guy. And I feel terrible for the guy. It's like, it's horrible you could get to this point. But he was literally. being craned out of his house because he was sick and so obese that they couldn't move. They had to bring a crane to move this guy.

I'm like, how do you get to that point in your life where you can, you know, your diet has enabled you to get into that position? And I think it's like, that's a very extreme example. But I think for humans in general, it's like we have so much access and there's so much abundance of so many terrible products and terrible foods that like it's just you slowly move in this direction where you're like, all of a sudden one day you wake up and you're like, holy shit, I'm so inflamed, I'm so unhealthy. I don't know what to do. It's like, that's why I think talking about the foundational stuff is so important because it, it's, listen, not everyone's going to

be craned out of a window, but we're moving in a direction where that is becoming more common than, than, than it, that ever used to be. Like, if you would have looked at that 200 years ago, that would have been like, it didn't exist. It didn't exist. It didn't exist. But there weren't the same inputs. There weren't the same inputs. There weren't the same inputs, like, food availability, the processed foods. Like, someone couldn't have gotten in that situation where now there's like just this overabundance of this hyper-processed food. Yeah, have you ever seen that like video it was like that record set? It was like the most, the heaviest guy in the world is like that old photo. I don't know. Oh, it's like comparing to the past. Well, no. It was like he like set the record.

And now it's like, unfortunately it's like it's that that would be like a very common photo of what's happened to our population. And it just speaks to like the food supply and the in the way that we eat now compared to how we used to. What I would just say there too, it's like, and this is not just for someone who I don't know who's like morbidly obese. This is like for. normal people who every day are just consuming even like a little bit more food than you're what you're supposed to be eating before. And again, like, I mean, I suffer from this like in my own family where it's like if I go to work at our office at the camp office, it's like, make sure it's like the food's like super clean. So it's like I'm kind of only eating vegetables, eggs, you know,

meats, things like that. And I get home and I have kids that are like eight and ten. And it's like we have fudge bars in the freezer, you know, and like they're going to have the fudge bar after dinner. I was like, I want a fudge bar after dinner. You know, it's like, it's hard. to not want to eat that fudge bar. And what I would just say is the fudge bar is not bad. Like it's not bad on its own, right? But that concentrated sugar totally removed from the plant that it originally came from, right? And the concentrated amount of like dairy fat that's combined with it.

And it being this perfect super really easy thing for me to eat, it didn't exist before, right? and it is it is again it's not like the thing that's going to make me more inflamed like that one that one little thing but it's a little spark and if one night I'm like I want two of these fudge bars oh and my wife wanted to have wine that night and so I had a glass of wine and like if I go to like suddenly I had two glasses of wine and two fudge bars like that is actually pretty that's not good for me I'm not saying it's bad it's not I'm not saying like I'm you know I'm not living healthy anymore etc but I'm introducing an amount of inflammation into my body that I wouldn't have done probably like 50, 100 years ago.

You know, I mean, maybe if I was like smoking tobacco, but there wasn't industrialized cigarettes at that point either, right? So it's like, rather than just like these cases. That's a whole other rabbit hole. If I go down like tobacco is actually maybe not so bad if you don't have industrialized cigarettes. Omega threes and cigarette smoking is ridiculous science too. So when they did these studies, they've done these like...

Together, you mean? Yeah. So basically, I want to make sure I get this right. They do these studies where large population studies where people are consuming, they look at people's omega three levels and then they're aware of whether or not they smoked or not. And across the board, if you have these lower omega three levels, you have a 15% higher rate of dying between the ages of like 65 and 75. And on average, it made people live about five years shorter.

That's people like below 4%. If you're up towards like the 8% and you have these higher levels of, of Omega, you would live on average about five years longer, right? That's kind of the core set of data. But then you look at, well, who was smoking and not taking Omega's versus who was smoking and taking Omega's versus people who were not taking omegas. And in general, like, obviously, the people smoking cigarettes and having lower amount of omega-3s in their blood had the worst case. There are 50% of them died. So no omegas and cigarettes. And cigarettes, 50% of them died between 65. When I got back together with Michael, he was smoking.

smoking cigarettes with no omegas. Well, keep going, keep going. And since he got with you, he stopped smoking cigarettes and he takes omegas. I literally saved his life. Well, no, I'm wondering if the start now with the omega's is going to get me back on the cigarette trade. Well, check this stat, though. Yeah. So it's basically about the same percentage of people, people who smoked and took omegas as people

who did not take omegas. So if you smoked, but you also have this higher level of omega-3 and, you know, index in your blood, you are about as healthy and have the same risk profile of dying from all cause mortality as someone who just didn't take the omega-3s. So it's interesting. The omega-3s literally kind of helped overcome some of that. Can I cancel out. I'm not trying to endorse it. Now, obviously, the people who didn't smoke. And it took omega's at the best outcomes. And they lived five years longer than, you know, everyone. So, I mean, the best solution is don't smoke, but it just shows you like, all the smokers are out there. Like, great. Give me that pack of marbles. I'm

just kidding. But no, but it's interesting to show how increasing the omega profile negate some of the effects that you wouldn't have without. Because it's so anti-inflammatory. It's so anti-inflammatory. It basically just throughout the whole body, it doesn't just like stop the inflammation. It like resolves it more quickly, wherever it's occurring. And it makes your red blood vessels that much more flexible. Again, the more omega-3s, here's actually a really simple way of getting it.

When you think about saturated fat, that's like butter, large, large. they're the things that are like solid at room temperature. They're thick. When you consume that and put that in your body, it's thick in your body. That's like the basic underlying idea of like why you maybe don't want as much saturated fat. I'm not, I think there's, this is, I'm not anti-saturated fat, but I'm just naming like you get the basic idea. Something like olive oil, it's a monosaturated fat, it is, it's very, at room temperature, it's fluid, right? But if you put it in the fridge, it starts to get cloudy and get kind of hard. Omega-3 is like you can refrigerate them

and they stay super fluid. It's at some crazy low temperature where they finally like condense and become hard. So when you think about your cell walls or these red blood vessels, if they're made of more saturated fats, they're stiffer and they're harder. And the more that they're made of these more fluid molecules,

these omega-3s, the more fluid they are. So by increasing the proportion, like the little building blocks that literally make up every single one of your red blood vessels, right? If it has more omega-3s, it's more flexible. It's like, I don't know, you're making a shirt and you're adding in like spandex or rayon. I mean, that's a bad example because those are synthetic, but like it makes it more flexible and stretchy. It's like a stretchy material that you add into your red blood vessels. And that's why, it seems to be, why you also have way

lower incidence of stroke, way lower incidence of heart attack, way lower incidence of all these things, because your red blood vessels are much more fluid. Damn, Angela. This is like, it's like talking to chat GPT, man. Does it help with blood pressure? That's an interesting question in terms of its exact. I would assume it's very, it's strongly correlated to blood pressure. Yeah, because it's, again, it's the flexibility of it.

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their waters. I froth it up and I've rebranded it as candy water. We also have cookie water, which is electrolyte water. We also have watermelon water, which is your other ammium. That one's just watermelon. So like mango gets candy and Watermelon actually has its own name. Guess which one they go for every time. Candy water. But they have it every day. They love it. He asked me, my son asked me to put it in his water bottle at school. What are the things that we can be doing for our kids with supplementation? Because my kids right now cannot swallow a pill. And they can't swallow these omegas. So what can I do to support them? So I think the aminos is a great solution. It's like immediately up being their like the equivalent of their daily protein intake. I throw some creatine in there too. people might come for me, but that's... Creatine's great.

I'm throwing it in there. Creatine's great for them. I think it's like... Creatine's maybe more optional. Like, I would say in this way, like, on a fundamental level, increasing the amount of amino acids they get every day and increasing the amount of omega-3s they get every day are a more fundamental thing for their age. How do we get the omega-3s?

Well, that's actually one thing I'd say. It's like, I would try breaking a capsule and mix it in something. It doesn't taste gross. I think you're going to be shocked. That's a good idea. Like you get you right now, I'll chew one right now and I'll show you. It's like it's not. You have to chew one on air.

Chew one. I'll do it. Okay, you guys, go watch the YouTube. He's chewing. You could put it on top of their food easily or their yogurt or whatever. Mix it in it. Yeah, watch. Okay, he's going to eat it.

I'll do it. And you're going to be surprised. It's like you're going to think, oh, it's got to be some gross fish thing. It's not. Okay. It's super purified and clean. I've already had five today. I have to ask you this question.

I'm going to mess up how to say this. What is the difference between ethylester? Uh-huh. Is that how you say it? Ethelester. Okay. And triglyceride form. Triglyceride form. Form fish oils. And does it matter which one we take? It matters greatly.

Okay. Ethel ester is an older school, more chemical process. It's 70% less bioavailable than if you get the triglyceride form. Triclyceride form is literally the format that fish oil. Oils occur in fish. Okay. So you want to definitely get it in a triglyceride format. It's cheaper to get in the ethylester. And honestly, when they originally did a lot of studies on Omega, and they actually, like, created these, there's drug forms of Omega-3s. They're so, Omega-3s are so potent, so powerful that pharmaceutical companies created a drug, like two drug forms of them. And when they did it, they did it in

this ethylester form. And then a lot of, like, copycat supplement companies followed that, but it's a very deficient form. You do not want ethelester. to do with this fish oil. You can't fuck around. You have to get the right fish oil. You really do have to get the right fish oil. I mean, geez, it's like a list of things that you can and can't do. You have to make sure this is why it's so important to do your own research and talk to chat. We have some true and false questions, but first, I have my own selfish question for you. Okay. I want to tell you what times and how I take your products. And I want you to rip it to shreds if it's wrong. Okay.

Okay. So this is how I use your products. I just want to start by saying, first of all, I think I've said this to you before, but like adherence and consistency is the most important thing. Okay. So before I, No, I'll give you tips on how to make it better. But I just want to say like for any, like, if you do it every day,

you're doing it better than 99% of most people, right? And the fact you're doing it every day is awesome. But let's go. The only reason I do it every day is because I attach it to another habit. So I don't go to the gym until I make my two scoops of mango aminos with a scoop of creatine

with ice frothed with water. So like I've associated that as like a dog whistle that I get that drink and I go to the gym. I don't know if you really want to be drinking ice, better room temperature,

but see, see, oh, he's going to rip me sure. It tastes way better if it's ice cold. I take the omegas first on an empty stomach with my electrolyte water.

And then I make my aminos like I told you with the creatine and take it to the gym. And then later in the day, I have the amino pills and I have seven. And then I also drink your coffee because I don't like mold in my coffee. And you're very specific about that. For omegas and creatine, all that matters is you take it every day.

Okay. And if you take the aminos before and with exercise, the blood flow from the exercise actually makes the aminos work even better. Okay. So long as you're just taking them every day. I think the only concern I sometimes have for people who like only associate it with exercise is like, oh, I'm not exercising today. so I'm not taking it.

Like, take it for sure, take aminos on the days that you're not exercising because you are literally stimulating protein synthesis. You're telling your muscles to rebuild even when you're not working out. Funny enough, I take actually more when I'm not working out. Like, I just have to travel. It makes sense. What's your favorite flavor? I like the mango.

Ah. But I do like the water, though. Like, the other day I traveled with the water. So I had to go to New York and back. And I brought three of the packs with me. And I was drinking that throughout the day because I was like, I'm not getting any exercise. I'm sitting on a plane all day long. You know, like, so I actually.

like did more when I traveled. What are the other flavors? That's how I think about it too. There's berry. There's berry and there's lime. And what I would say it's like, I know you guys love mango always. I think it's kind of like a spectrum of what you're into. I think watermelon is like the most sweet.

Mango is kind of this kind of like sweet spot, like not quite as sweet. And I really like the flavor. Berries like a little bit less. And lime is like the least sweet and kind of the most tart. I don't think I've tried the line. Really? It's the yellow and green one. You haven't tried it.

No. I think I'm so lot. it. I think that some people are like, ah, it's like not, people that like sweeter things don't like it as much. But I think it's great. It's the only one my wife drinks. My wife is obsessed with the line. The watermelon has a little bit of like a spicy aftertaste to it. I know. Isn't that weird? It's got a little spicy after taste. People like it. You know what I don't do. We don't do the berry. I do the, but the berries not. I'm going to get the berry. Don't mess with my mango. Ready, true or false. All fish oils are the same. I know this answer. False. False. They're very

different. Even people who eat a lot of fish should be using an omega. formula? I think it depends on like what a lot of fish is. Again, like going back to it, I think I would be advising people to be trying to get at least a gram per day and their diet. You look at like what the Japanese are doing and you look at like how to get this higher omega-3 index. It's about a gram a day. That would be the equivalent of eating over eight servings of fish per week. Like fatty fish, like eight servings of salmon per week. So I mean, if you're eating 10 servings of, you're like a fisherman or something, I don't know. And you're like, Sushi cars?

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe you're living in the Mediterranean or you're living in Cabo or something. You just eat tons of fatty fish. Like, yeah, maybe not. But otherwise, I would advise it. Fish oil helps hair growth. Yes. You can get enough omega-3s from plants such as flax and chia. Definitely not. This is an important. I make this an important point. So there's this third omega-3 we didn't talk about. It's called A-L-A. Okay. And it is what you find more in plants. It's like in chia and flaxseed, etc. And this actually goes back to the old debate around. the question of whether you need like omega-6 versus omega-3, like how much? Because basically, if you have more omega-6s in your diet, which is what comes from like seed oils. But it also comes

from like arachidonic acid comes from meats, et cetera. But like if you eat that and you have more of that in your system, it competes for the A-L-A to convert into the good omega-3s we really want, the EPA and the D-HA, the things we've been talking about all show. So the concern was, gosh, if you eat too much of these omega-6s, like, you can't get enough EPA-D-H-A. But the thing is, like, ALA, only 2% of it gets converted into this EPA and DHA. I feel like maybe we got a little heading on this one, but the big idea is like the ALA is not the secret sauce that we're looking for. The much higher levels of ALA don't really, they do not have these outcomes that we're talking about. It's the EPA and the DHA, and it doesn't convert to EPA and DHA. And a lot of

plant-based people will say, like, well, I get plenty of the ALA that I need from eating chia and et cetera, and that's going to convert into EPA and DHA. It's not. Like, 2% of it's going to convert. So it's just, it's not even close to important. Like, you've got to either eat fish, eat some kind of, you know, fish oil supplement or some kind of very highly concentrated marine algae supplement. Last question. All fish oils cause you to burp. Absolutely not. That's the cheap, rancid, gross fish oil. I would say too, like some of these fish oils, too, they have to have like lemon flavoring or like other weird things. It's because they're like not quality.

Imagine going on a date with a guy and he just had like a bad fish oil and he's burping. Or a girl. I think that's a red oil. I don't really want to imagine myself on a date with a guy with fish burps. But yeah, I get the sentiment. Yeah, it's pretty gross. That would be my Tinder bio. Yeah.

So another quick tip on like why that may be happening is if you look at on the back of a later, the concentration of the amount of the omega-3s relative to the total fat. Like omega-3s are fat. They're literally like fat, right? And if you look at that on our label, it's going to be approximately 80 percent, right? About 80 percent of the total fat is actually this, are these omega-3s. That's a very high concentration. If you actually looked at like our COAs, like what we actually get when we test it independently, it's closer like 85 percent. We just, we underrepresent what it is so we're always positive, it's more of that. I promise, it's even more than what's listed on there. A lot of brands, if you were to do the division, you were do the omega three content divided by the total fat,

even like legit brands. Brands that like in the past, I was like, oh, that's a good brand. It's like 70%. If you look at like a cheap CVS brand, it could be 50%. So literally you're taking this thing that you think is omega-3s and it's a bunch of half of it is not even omega-3s. It's other oil from the fish. It's like omega-6s even. Yeah. Yeah. So, and that's what tastes gross is what I'm trying to say.

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