The Boyscast with Ryan Long - #42 Danny Mullen on Wild Comedy, Winning & Dude Shit. (THE BOYSCAST)

Episode Date: November 27, 2020

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with the man, the legend, Danny Mullen. Danny motherfucking Mullen. You know what you have a hat on right now you look very british that's the first thing that i thought when before i heard you talk i was like oh it's like a british guy oh do i might i was just what is that australian i don't know i was just watching a video that i'm editing and i'm handcuffed to a railing in a restaurant it's a long story this stunt we pulled and there's an english restaurant manager who's in my face talking shit to me.

So I'm familiar with British people right now. They're fresh in my psyche. See, I think the Danny Mullen story is cool because I fucking, when I, like in the last six months, I had like five or six people. There was a few names that kept popping up that people kept being like, you got to check this guy out. And they're always like, oh, this guy's wild. And, you know, you're always like, yeah, I bet he's fucking so wild.

And then I went and I was like, yeah, this guy's pretty fucking wild. Yeah. But and then I talked to you and you were like, oh, yeah, you kind of had the same thing where, you know, people reached out. So you've been also kind of killing it in COVID, right? Absolutely, man. I take pride in the fact that the day the entirety of los angeles locked down our crew was on a mission in los angeles to film we took no heat of it from hour one

and um i'm glad i did a lot of youtubers stopped uploading and they started putting out shitty in quarantine content and i just didn't stop and there were no consequences. I don't think I got COVID and we prospered from it, the channel. You know, it's such an interesting time for that because it really is like separating the, you know, the, it's kind of like when you're, if you're doing standup and it's easy for everyone to kill when there's a good set, but then now they sort of took everything away and it's separating like who's a pussy and who's not. Absolutely, man. And now they sort of took everything away and it's separating like who's a pussy and who's not. Absolutely, man. Yeah, I do see it, I guess, as a pussy, not pussy thing.

I think the whole thing's fucking stupid. Honestly, I haven't checked the stats, but I'm pretty sure more people have died from smoking camel lights this year than from the coronavirus. But we're choosing to shut down the entire economy in some states. And I'm pretty much will. I'm in the mindset that I'm ready to die on any video shoot I go out on anyway. So the coronavirus didn't change it much for me. It's kind of like, you know how with like chicks, when people are like, oh, yeah, yeah, chicks rule, right? You're like, you have to not care to be good at girls. It's sort of like with someone like you.

That's why it's like I can tell that you're actually fucking kind of a wild man like even with yeah the corona stuff where it's like they're you know they're like oh they're gonna make it 10 people in the house maybe they'll make it eight you're like i mean make it one i don't give a shit because i'm not obeying any of it like you can make it zero people in my house allowed it's gonna be irrelevant to me yeah no i think that's a good mindset with covid or without to not really give a shit because so many people on youtube since things have become i mean basically since trump has been in office there's been a lot of pc social justice warrior backlash toward a lot of people and a lot of big youtubers have been apologizing deleting tweets completely cleaning

up their content and i think that is such a short-term fear move that isn't going to lead anywhere good. And people like us who continue doing what we think is funny are going to stand out in stark relief and it's going to benefit us in the end. Dude, it's such a fear thing. And it's like the fear, basically like fear in addition to a million other things, it just makes everyone have the same points. It makes everyone have the same content. You go, I think that's what it is true where there's a little bit of, it's not even fear as much as like they don't have the consequence, the confidence to deal with the consequences.

Yeah. Because, you know what I mean? I know you're like a rational, you're like, okay, this stuff could happen. But you're like, yeah, okay, well then it'll happen. Like people get mad at you okay then people could get mad because a lot of people are sort of they they're not like confident who they are or they're like belief system but some people also are just kind of you know they're like wired to have low risk tolerance or whatever yeah absolutely some people are just in it for the money which being just in it for the money is uh ironically a bad way to make money people like me and you who are in it for the money which being just in it for the money is uh ironically a bad way to make money

people like me and you who are in it because we have strong convictions about the world and what's funny and not funny well uh we'll stick to our guns and it'll pay off i guess yeah really is like there's so many people that i feel like that's another thing when it comes to you see the people that their fans kind of like run them. Like there's so many people that they, you know, with like a band, there's the certain like bands and musicians that they kind of like create a style and they create like a way to dress and their fans all start dressing them. And then there's the other bands. There's almost like they're looking at their fans being like, hey, what are we dressing like? It's all it all boils down to that thing where you're like, oh, you didn any opinions to begin with yeah this is all just out of the gate you all just looked around and you go what do people do okay i'll do that and then you just end up having the same opinions the same

everything is everybody else yeah someone like you yeah you you thrive in the darkness people i love it dude i don't even read my comments or my messages because i don't want any input even from dedicated fans because then i start thinking in my head out on a shoot oh uh skater punk 66 told me in the comment section that i need to do more of this thing and then i start thinking when i'm on shoots about what that guy said and i'm trying to do more of that what it should be like you mentioned like a uh like a trend-setting fucking band like that that should be our attitude like nirvana fucking their vision was to turn punk a little poppy and make it a little more palatable then six million other asshole bands rolled in and tried the same

thing and nobody ever heard about any of those guys again or they their career lasted one album you got to be the the originator to do, you've got to generate ideas from within. What do you think your brand is? What do you consider it? That's a good question. I'm having a hard time even figuring that out, dude. I just, I write some funny ideas down for videos and I try to come up with some sort of overarching story. Yeah. Go out and do it. I think my brand is um doing what i think is funny with a little bit of mind paid to what's going to piss people off and um raising a middle finger to all the drones

i went to college with who are now working at morgan stanley and uh raising a middle finger to all the youtubers out there who are doing ad friendly content and ads for product. Well, I, I'll tell you, you are kind of a bit of like a trendsetter. I mean, it's, this happens to me too. It's almost like, you remember when, uh, that thing where no one could run like a 10 second hundred meters. And then as soon as one person did it, you know, like 10 other people did it that year. Cause you kind of realize it's possible. And same with like, that happens in like business and everything else. But but i think with i see that with me where i'll like do something no

one else is doing it then immediately 10 other people can do it i remember with you yeah i saw a few of those where i kind of felt like i was like oh you can do that like i remember the one that sticks out to me is when you you're what's your co-host name leo so leo got yeah leo got like a me too he got me too yeah after he was on the bachelorette the popular show that's watched by like six billion people he was sort of an asshole on that show he fucked around with the other guys like talk shit to him and then a disgruntled girl who probably was 30 pounds overweight and had no romantic prospects she tweeted out something he had messaged her when he was in college it was i guess a comment underneath one of her facebook photos and she was posing in a swimsuit and he wrote you need my big dick

which is maybe the douchiest thing you could ever do but it's kind of big stick by the way um it's slightly above average he might say it's firmly above average. He might say firmly above average. I'm going to say slightly. He's like a 6.5, but in his mind, he's like packing massive heat. Absolutely. In his mind,

he's 6.7 at least. Because you're right. If you're a tiny bit above average, that means tons of girls have told you you had a nice piece. I fucking wish that are true. I think I might be a couple millimeters above average,

but I've heard my dick is small way more than I've heard. It's big girls say your dick is small. No, you know, I had a nasty habit, Ryan, of when I was in college, just walking around naked through my fraternity house down the street, Westwood, totally soft. And I've got one of my nuts looks like it has elephant titus. It just swelled up the day I hit puberty. Dude, I just talked about this. I had the same thing. Mine never came back to earth though. It's still big. And so from a perspective point of view,

it's awful. It makes my lip talk like- So the nuts is the issue. It's bad. Yeah, if I were neutered, I would be sort of sad, but part of me would be psyched. Like if I'd been an opera singer in the 1700s where they did that, it would be all good for my penis's career.

So you go, okay, so this guy gets the me, the me too allegation. How big of a deal was it? It was pretty big because that was, I think in early 2018. So we're talking six months after Harvey Weinstein and Louis CK fell. Also, he was that fame you get from The Bachelorette is really fleeting, but it's really powerful when it's there, because, again, I think they get real numbers like 32 million viewers. It's one of the most viewed programs in the world. And who's the audience? 99 percent women who tend to be the ones that get all riled up about me too obviously women so i he had to take off all the comments on his instagram he had to disable those were people just killing him oh death threats constantly tons of people making videos people would say things to

him in public it was bad wow and all because so in high school he wrote a thing saying my dicks yo you gotta check out this dick he was a senior in college but still it was a while ago he's my friend my friend the other day was literally like he was he's like i've been i sent too many dick pics like back in the day and he started going through his instagram like he went like 200 you know fucking pages deep trying to find every man he was trying to unsend all the messages no dude it's shit that he sent at 3 a.m like eight years ago dude it's absolutely a valid fear i did the same thing the number one fear yeah and uh i sent a lot of dick pictures unfortunately i just talked about limp penis is is my great weakness i used to send dick pictures not only with my cock limp, but with my face in them when I was 20 or 21.

And I know there are probably 10 to 15 of those floating around that I assume they're going to surface someday. Oh, I have the same thing, but I have all these tattoos and stuff, too. But I was a little I'm 35. So you 30, right? 31. Just turned 31. So you're a tiny bit younger than me. But there was I when I went to university,

there wasn't really the dick pic culture because the phones were shittier. You had to mail a Polaroid of your dick, old-fashioned style. And it's good for me, actually, because me too, not me too, but me too, I was sending dick pictures when it was flip phone. And so I'm almost positive

nobody still possesses the flip phone that has that's the best yeah it's not yeah we did most of our scum dogging before mobile apps even existed so i i think we got kind of lucky whereas kids who were coming of age right before 2017 might be fucked because every inappropriate thing they ever sent is in the cloud or in the Instagram DMs. That's not good. Dude, I've been watching like, well, I pay attention to like alternative press and the band sites and stuff like that. And they don't even report news anymore. They literally just report like, well, another one down. Another rock star. You're like, oh,

this band. You're like, oh, they have a new album coming out. You're like, no, their guitar tech showed his nuts in 2001. It's just non-stop one of my favorite bands brand new you probably know about jesse lacy got me too a new york guy yeah yeah i think he had a couple yeah he was one of the best lyricists of that movement i mean i guess the music was pretty good too but i loved them they were my favorite band in high school really came out that yeah i loved him in high school and it came out their new album science fiction's fucking kick-ass too that came out in 2017 but it also came out unfortunately that jesse lacey was stroking himself on like an early form of skype with a 15 year old when he was oh i remember yeah remember. Yeah, I remember that. And it was a legend.

He sort of came out evidence. Didn't he come out? Didn't he come out and apologize? And he was like, I have a wife now. And I, you know, whatever. I was an alcoholic. They always say that sort of stuff. Yeah, it was a very general apology for a lot of philandering over many years.

But he didn't deny it. So maybe it's true. They had the. So I used to like be part owner of this website called the hard times. And we did like a festival in California that they headlined. And, uh, yeah,

I know a lot of people, I'm a little older. Like they were, I was more into like punk. So they were a little, uh, kind of, uh,

younger for me, I think. But when I was, uh, when we did this festival, they played, okay. So they went on the stage and they,

this light show, they played in the background where there were shadows you couldn't see them and they just stood there so you like they might as well not even have been there yeah they had this insane light show four of them were standing there all you saw was a shadow for 40 minutes and i was like this is the worst thing i've ever seen like it sounded good but it was crazy i go who's like who let them do this no one's like yeah this sucks dude their last tour there was a wall separating them from the crowd like it was a fucking roger waters pink floyd production there was a literal glass wall that dropped down and

separated them from the audience but that was their thing they were an enigma they didn't do any interviews they didn't promote any albums in their last he just did skype interviews yeah without any kind of dialogue too well these guys physical yeah dude these guys took uh his allegation and they went on the streets and they were like hey this is the me too allegation trying to pick up girls with the me too allegation it was a little bit like that i mean even with me i was like yeah i don't know if i would have had the balls to do that but then now you go like maybe i know me and leo me and leo so now when i see that i'm like if anything now i would like go further so it always it kind of reminds me of in toronto like me and my four comedian friends that were kind of like inventing this little style of comedy

it was always that it was always someone would do something and then it wasn't even that oh and now i could do that it was like oh, oh, now I go farther. You have to one-up them. So I think it's, I mean, do you consider yourself part of a movement with like the Nelk Boys and that, what's that other guy? His name is Danny too. He's like your buddy, isn't he? Danny Duncan.

Yeah. That guy's wild too. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like they are more lifestyle YouTubers. Yeah, you're comedy, but they're doing crazy as shit oh definitely yeah and they're wildly successful and they're really good guys and both of them have helped me out a lot both squads but yeah i guess i am more rooted in comedy and a little

there's a little less concern for editing or for churning out the hottest merchandise every month in massive quantities which i mean i wish i was at that stuff, but you got to pick your thing, and there's only so much time in the day. I know, dude. They're fucking... Those guys are, like, legitimately merch companies. I was just talking about this, but it's kind of funny to watch.

But those guys, the Nelk Boys are funny. Like, they... Because they're from Canada, so I remember when they were doing straight up... Like, I mean, they still do pranks, but I get what you mean. It's more of a lifestyle thing, but then... Yeah.

I remember what was funny to them for me originally was when they were going to the hockey arenas and pretending they were scouts oh yeah i was like okay these guys are fucking funny they're you they're really funny they're tremendously funny in person yeah and you do the same thing where you do like the 40 minutes every week which is fucking nuts yeah why do you do like whenever there is a part of me that I mean, people always say that to me. They're like, why do you know you do so much content or whatever? And I kind of watched you and I was like, like, why don't you just do 20 minutes a week? What's the benefit of doing 40? It seems so crazy. My business model is I have a Patreon to where I release unused content.

So there's a big incentive to shoot more than we need. So we have a good product to put out on Patreon. And then also, I don't know, I read in a book once, I think it was a Tony Robbins book, that the way to get rich is just to give, give, give. And I work six days a week. I take one day off. And six days is a lot of days to get shit done. So I have a lot of time to write and prepare. And I have the money now where i can fly out my team we can buy a lot of props book airbnbs tours for like museums or like yeah on a fucking roller coaster do whatever i need to get the content so i just feel that now it's my responsibility to put out as good of a product as i can and that's that means for me a lot of good stuff in a week not just a quick 10 minute video i know what's what's like the were you a big into

fucking tom green and like ali g and all that stuff with ali g absolutely i'm i'm sure just like you um he's now dead to us after seeing the the new amazon the new amazon was garbage yeah i'm friends with that kurt metzger he wrote on Who Is America. Yeah, I like Kurt Metzger. He's a badass. Yeah, he's super funny. But he, yeah, I mean, I guess I won't say what he like said about him behind the scenes. But like, it sounds like. I would love to hear what Kurt Metzger said about Scott Schumacher.

Can you at least give me a hint? He said he's a genius. No, but there's with. No, I'm not going to let you get past this. It seems like. He knows him. with uh no i'm not gonna let you get past this it seems like he knows them i think the gist is that like with all these people it's the it's they don't even like see the whole thing you know what i mean like with someone like sasha baron cohen if you said that okay for example you know the fact that you are like at four censorship and stuff like that like nothing you did like

coming up would be able to be on any of these platforms under the rules that you're out there like championing. Right. Yeah. And they have like, they don't even have a problem with that hypocrisy. Like they're almost a little bit innocent and maybe part of that's, they came up at a different time and now they're like, so in this system that like,

didn't really this like system of censorship and, you know, taking people off air the way that it does now almost didn't exist in their era so it's almost like a level of naivety more than it is a level of like sinisterness we were talking about at the top of the show youtubers who after trump got an office and after me to disavow all their old content and said hey i'm a new person now i apologize sasha baron cohen is maybe the greatest example of that because the ollie g show the original one is my comedy bible i've seen every

episode countless times bruno was great the original borat was great some of the other stuff he did the dictator kind of stunk but it didn't upset me it wasn't vile dude this last borat sequel was just a propaganda piece there was no there was no sense of levity there was no passion behind it they shoehorned in bits about facebook ad hate speech that just came out of nowhere had nothing to do with the plot i was thoroughly disgusted and i was watching a hero die slowly as i completed the film well he actually did one worse than uh where you're like and i i've talked about this before but he in my opinion he did one worse than disavow his oath content he rewrote history where he's like no my content was actually fighting the power you know he goes he said that i was making poor at to fight

homophobia and you know to fight anti-semit. And I always said like, OK, well, why were you fucking with feminists at the rally? What were you fighting there? It's like, no, you thought it was funny. Yeah, I'm trying to think of a big counterexample to that. But I don't I don't think that he necessarily was doing that or not doing that. He was just doing what you and I do. He was, of course, he was doing true comedy where the point was to get a laugh. And then maybe the secondary effect was for you to think a little bit about society and what made those jokes funny.

Yeah. But now it's just I had a professor once in a screenwriting class who said it's all about story. If you have something to say, that thing should announce itself in the process of crafting a good story. You can't lead with the thing you want to say. Otherwise it's going to turn everybody off. Sasha Baron Cohen unashamedly led with what he wanted to say and bore at too. And it was uninteresting and it was offensive. Well,

when you make, when you make content like that, you're actually not trying to change people's opinions. You're trying to like reassure the people that like you, but more so you're trying to like gain their approval by like doing something mean to the people that they disagree with yeah so it's it's not like trying to convince anyone of anything you're like look i'll give a shot to them too we're kicking them while they're down like okay good i'll get it right look i did my kick like a good like you know yeah yeah and that's another thing is i politically i

would say i'm conservative but not aggressively so I would say I'm conservative, but not aggressively. So I would say I'm like a moderate conservative or like a libertarian. What does that even mean? OK, so what does that mean? Because you grew up where? Like the Midwest or whatever? No, no. I grew up in California, northern California. Oh, OK. But like a good example of my upbringing is my dad is conservative. He didn't like Obama at all, but he also refused to vote for Trump. He wrote in like John McCain during the Trump Hillary election. But, uh, but I, the reason I tend to lean conservative now is because it's the unpopular thing to do. I said early in a little bit,

I do mostly what I think is funny, but a little bit of a little bit of it is to piss people off. Like we just went and tailgated voting for Trump for video. And that was just purely to piss people off. Like, so it seems so uncool to me to do what Jimmy Kimmel or Seth Meyers does and just like suck the anti-Trumper left wing social justice warriors dicks like Sacha Baron Cohen did. There's no bravery in that. Everyone's already saying it, too. So even like artistically, there's nothing there, because even if you think you agree with that point, it's been made 10,000 times, you know,

by platforms. Yeah. Even if you do agree with it, I like, yeah, I thought the tailgating stuff was funny. It was like, you're just like,

and people are like, you're not supposed to do that. And you're like, okay, well we did like, what are you going to do about it? I was doing interviews and so many people were like, Oh,

like recently a lot of people will be like, so how do you do that stuff? Like, aren't you afraid or whatever? And I'm kind of like, for one, this is like right now is the least crazy version of myself. Like when I was younger, I was like an actually insane person. Now I'm, you know, saying controversial things like pales in comparison to the kind of shit. That's why with Sashmir and Cohen and the same with, I mean, you're only a little bit younger than me, but those other guys, probably some of those YouTubers are like 25. And I feel like I'm kind of in the middle or whatever.

But there is this thing of you can never be really like as crazy or energetic as the young guys. Like when you watch when I watch myself, 25, I'm like, I can never be that crazy again. But then when you watch someone that's like older than you, a lot of times you're like, well, yeah, they don't they're better. Right. Like I watch these young people and I'm like, yeah, but I'm way better at this than them. Yeah. And so you want to be, you want to keep getting better and you're going to lose some of that edge and some of that fearlessness as you go. I don't know, man. It's, it depends. There are people like Jeff Bezos from Amazon who's working harder than he ever did. And he's worth $69 trillion. But he's not as fearless. He wouldn't do any moves that would potentially turn that company into zero. Right. Like it's's about taking those, like, crazy shots. Like, I feel like even Danny Mullen might do something that, like, might get you arrested for two years, whereas, like, I might be a little more apprehensive than I would when I was 25 to do something, uh, I have a tremendous respect for the police and I'll always

tell them that when they come and I never fuck around with the police or be a dickhead. We've been stopped by officers maybe like 10 times and they've always just been like, Oh, that's pretty funny what you're doing. All right. You guys are good to go. So I don't think I, I think you're on your peak craziness right now. Yeah, I guess. But like, I've worried about that that once i have enough money to retire that i'll just retreat to doing podcasts but i don't think it's i don't think it's that that that uh i mean maybe you're taking it like more negatively than what i'm saying because i'm seeing it sort of as a positive it's like you like the trick is to just improve at your craft and your like humanity and everything you're doing in your life, whether that be business.

And even if that's 30%, and then if you get 10% less crazy with whatever that be, like your relationship, your business. And some of that craziness that you had when you're younger is irrational. So it does make sense to sort of... Here would be a perfect example of something that when I see it, think of like stunts or whatever, like the kind of stuff we do. Right. When I was like 20, I was just doing these insane stunts. And when I look back, really all of it was, okay, let's try to get kicked out of places. Like I didn't really know.

I had one trick in my thing. I needed like an event, you know, when I talk about like a taxable event, it was kind of like, just keep doing this bit. Like, I guess until security comes and that's like, that'll become the gag getting kicked out absolutely and same here and i did even as recently as six months ago getting kicked out of places was my only gag and also i had to be i had to be shit-faced all the time in my videos we had the same couple of tropes we'd ask guys to pull their cock out yeah with ugly chicks and now that no you're totally right it had the focus has absolutely become less on i'm gonna get blacked out and upset a bunch of people and has become more of how can i improve as

a performer and stay sober that i so that i can write better material for the shoot so what i lose your craziness as you said i do make up for in depth of the material yeah i'm watching your stuff it's like clearly that you like really know how to do this you know what i mean and it's like you kind of thanks man you probably have like 20 to 100 tricks that you know anyone that's why a lot of people when i'm doing interviews people go like oh how long does it take you to get the right guy and you're like i don't get the right guy i just ask anyone that i have 100 questions i could ask yeah i kind of like i understand the like craft of doing that and then there's the other thing like you can watch even your videos like i feel like i see some like howard stern

stuff where you have your you have your crew which is kind of like you're like developing your like whack pack and you understand like how to so there's yeah there's just like so much more to like that world that comes more than just like hey i'm like the craziest guy that's like can go to the bar and like get beat up and whatever yeah it becomes um to me doing that over and over is like a comedian who releases an hbo special or a netflix special and then you see him live the next year and he's doing the same shit yeah for me it's like not because we put out content so often it's like not only can we not do the same jokes again but i don't even like to repeat the same skeletal structure of comedy if i'm using if i'm using the same comedic device and uh whether that be i don't know getting kicked out of something we're doing

something obnoxious in public until we get kicked out that has to develop and have a new like something which here's an example instead of just getting kicked out or causing a public disturbance, we just did a video based on Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island. And there's a character in that novel named Pew who's a blind beggar. He's a pirate, though, and he raids Jim Hawkins in looking for a treasure map. The British cavalry comes in. All the pirates scatter and Pew gets trampled because he's too blind to find his way away.

So we just turned that into dining and ditching while blindfolded. I came in dressed as a pirate with a blindfold. My buddy, Leo got me to dumped out all of his food on the ground after the server brought it out, called the server, a cocksucker, then handcuffed me to a post in the restaurant and fled.

So not only were we kicked out, but I couldn't leave physically because I was handcuffed me to a post in the restaurant and fled so not only were we kicked out but i couldn't leave physically because i was handcuffed and like that's a new comedic skeleton versus just going in and causing a ruckus and getting asked to leave yeah physically and you kind of knew like you don't necessarily need the taxable event for that to be funny like using the taxable event yeah i don't know what that means i was saying that you know it was making me laugh yesterday that uh so i was i have this joke where i say that uh like men have the gay guys have the most sex lesbians have the least or the straight people have the second most than lesbian that have the least sex at zero because you need a penis for

sex and i was saying that like that uh wouldn't do lesbians have sex there's no taxable event so taxable event is like the government can't take money from you unless there's an event like if you have stocks like you have to sell it to if you just own the stocks the government can't get their money but once you sell it there's like a taxable event now they can take your money that's good to know i just got in the stocks like everybody else did when the market crashed so i haven't sold any yet but i'm glad i had yeah i was saying like you need a dick, to have a taxable event for sex. I don't know.

It's true. What they're doing, it's just creating friction. There's no fucking going on there. Do you know what the other thing is? There's something about, like, you guys, and I feel like hopefully I have this too with certain people, because a lot of times I'll see people that you watch for the first time and you're like, whoa, what the hell is this?

And then you kind of see, like, oh, it took them forever to get there or, like, develop that thing, which just seems so weird at the time. Maybe I'm explaining this bad, but there's something about, even when you're talking about being, like, conservative the way that you are now because, you know, the way society moved and the way you're in opposition to it, it feels like there's also, like, just, like, an like a aggressive masculinity to like what you guys are doing where you just fucking it's like there's so much like raw like testosterone where you're

just like going and like fucking around and just like so unapologetic do you like find that yeah it's part of the whole pissing off society right now because you have to treat women like they are on people holy shrine yeah that's the people thing it's really pissing me off but uh yeah it just it's part of the whole rebelling against what you what you're supposed to do right now according to universities and according to big tech we call chicks gash we uh i guess that's about the extent of it basically we just call it gash that's not even some it's not even about women it's just like this energy of like you're there's this i think it's that like we're just gonna act the way that like a group of guys hang out you know who dac shepherd is so he's this huge podcaster right he's like the biggest probably

like the you know after like joe rogan like second or third biggest podcast and i listened to him on an interview and he i kind of you know i get why he's like a talented broadcaster but everything with him is very it's always like you know how did he come to terms with his you know demons and he used to be a drug addict and now he's you know looking inside himself and what does make me happy and it's it's like a lot of that kind of talk right okay you know what is what is that what does make me happy? And it's, it's like a lot of that kind of talk, right? You know, what does, what is that? What does Dax need?

Like, what is, what should I, and he's, you know, talk whenever he talks to people and I'm always like, Oh, who gives a shit? And then I heard him talking. He's like, he was discussing his ad ads and stuff like that. And he was like, well, I know a lot of people come on here cause we sell a lot of books because our audience is 90% female. And I was like, Oh fucking, of course it is. That makes sense.

And I was like, cause in my mind I was like, why is this guy so big? Like who would want to listen to this? And it was like, oh, fucking of course it is. That makes sense. And I was like, because in my mind, I was like, why is this guy so big? Like, who would want to listen to this? And it was like, girls, that's fucking new. You know, it's all about them. And I feel like, you know what I mean? So there's, and it's all, like, even guys, it's like, all the energy is just fucking for chicks right now. So I think that's... Yeah. And it's actually surprising. My

statistics on YouTube say that 1% of my audience is female, but there are a lot of chicks a lot of fucking chicks and some of them are even like hot ass chicks are into the channel they're drawn to that masculine energy of course like they were with bands like my my girlfriend it's not pandering to them it's the same with every band sorry to interrupt you but it's like every band it was like if the girl if it's like girls like the bands that the guys like, and then if the girls like them first, the guys don't want anything to do with it.

It's like, it's not content for girls. Girls just fucking, you know, they like the energy, but yeah, sorry about your girlfriend. Yeah. I mean, my girlfriend and her friends, um, I mean, they are, I mean, it's actually maybe people will find this repulsive, but my girlfriend's 21. She's in college still. repulsive but my girlfriend's 21 she's in college still and they yeah i'm a classy guy but they have these mandatory programs they have to watch now on like white privilege and socioeconomic disadvantage that they all must watch before they register for classes and her and all of her

friends are just they hate this they watch it on mute and just collectively talk shit about having to do this so that audience like enlightened not shitty not pussified people exist in both genders but yeah i think that what we do just the being guys talking shit and talking about getting pussy and getting fucked up i yeah i guess that's part of it and that comes from like the the stern vibe from the early nineties too, that you mentioned earlier. Yeah. You've got some fucking crazy characters.

Who's so you have like, was the one thing you had a fucking, that kind of like reminded me, I was like stirring it for some reason. It's yeah. That dude, ASAP fatty. Is that that guy's name?

Yeah. He was coming on your show. Airsoft fatty. Okay. So this guy was coming on Danny's show and I, before he was on, I was, this is when I was listening to your podcast. You're like, this guy's a fat fuck.'s show and like before he was on i was this when i was listening to your podcast you're like this guy's a fat fuck he's gonna die he's go and then

apparently he called it and he was like i don't want to come in anymore because you've been making fun of me for 20 minutes yeah i said at some point that if you cross the threshold of 400 pounds you should have to drive by yourself in a car to Montana with a puff adder on the dashboard that should be the way in which a fat person has to commit suicide once they get to 400 and I think that scared him a little bit I don't think he was eager to come into that sort of environment he came around the next week and he's 69 we had him to sit on our producer's face which was a lot of fun and he loved it he had a great time it's no it seems like a funny dude yeah yeah that guy he he uh that's one thing i don't really like to do is he got popular because this dude i dubs

who's a giant youtuber who got huge through a content cop series where he would basically talk shit about all the top youtubers content i dubs did a documentary on this big fat guy and the big fat guy blew up oh he basically said he sucks and then like people were like no he doesn't no no he actually went out to his house and he shot a really high budget documentary it was sweet it was awesome and this guy is just like a fat redneck who lives in michigan but i take pride in not being one of these collaboration dudes like oh this hot social media person's in la we got to shoot a video together. Like we found this dude at a comedy show named, I gave him the name Rat Dick Ralph. And he was a mushroom and LSD addict

who got fired from work, from various workplaces every single week. And we made him, Ryan, shave his head and get a tattoo up there. And he eventually lost his mind and beat the shit out of his girlfriend. But what I'm saying is it's important to cultivate your own character saying this guy rules what you're saying this guy fucking rules we pours light fucking stone cold style yeah black eye for the girlfriend

boys yeah but like i it's it becomes this thing in la where it's like high school and it's like oh are you collaborating with them oh there's a little drama between these two clicks it's like high school and it's like, oh, are you collaborating with them? Oh, there's a little drama between these two cliques. It's like, fuck that. I just want to find psychos and put them on camera. Yeah, all of that stuff's a little bit of a replacement for actually like making good things, you know? Yeah, yeah. And it comes back to that lemming philosophy that we were talking about.

Everybody's going one way politically. Everybody's going one way content wise. These people don't want to think for themselves. They they just if somebody else did a video with this guy he must be cool right no not necessarily yeah i know we used to i used to love like i when i was uh younger like in the band days i had this like crazy click that there's this guy gary and he was like 50 years old and he used to just come to shows and then eventually we're like yo want to come on tour with us and so he's like i'll be your bus driver and he showed up and he's like 50 years old. And he used to just come to shows. And then eventually we're like, yo, want to come on tour with us? And so he's like, I'll be your bus driver.

And he showed up and he's like, oh, yeah, by the way, I don't have my license. We're like, all right, I guess you can sell T-shirts. But he had this son. And I remember like the funniest thing that sticks out about how crazy this guy was. I remember he was there with his son who he brought on tour with us once, too. And his son was like 16. And he was like, dad, can I have money for food? And he was like, you don't have any money.

And he was like, dad, you just bought a two-four of beer. And goes you know beer doesn't count like this is the kind of guy and he's just always perfect yeah just an insane person we did the same thing like got him to get tattoos and like now thinking back like he was having sex with 20 year old girls were like yeah that was kind of a lot but it was like yeah you create your own fucking like world and you don't really need other people in it you know or at least you kind of once in a while you see someone that you like like i've saw you there's a few other people there's this kid aiden that i put in a bunch of my videos he does one minute talk show that like i just watched his things and i was like okay this guy's good and there's some comedians in new york but it's like it's not about collaborating once it's more like oh i actually kind of fucking like what this guy's doing you know and you sort of actually build like some real relationships but where in new york are you guys i'm in the

east village so you're right in the city yeah how is it right now i know generally it's probably pretty desolate and there's a lot of shit boarded up do you see it turning around do you like it are you planning on fleeing yourself well i've only been here i was here for five months because i only moved here from canada a year ago okay i've only been here for five months and then all this stuff happens so i don't really know i don't really have like the plan like if the thing is new york is still going to be the best place in the world for stand-up like a lot of people i've been in austin a few times like and everyone's like there is like this is the new spot but it's like it won't be for stand-up like yeah new york's the only place that has like you know 15 showcase clubs where you could like do three or four spots a night and i still want like four or five years of that it's so it's grittier

than la too i feel like better this pussified corporate vibe where people are just trying to get gigs as writers on sitcoms yeah and to get into that you need to be uh basically a big democrat and that makes its way into their material and their attitude no it 100 is you gotta be it is cool like when people are just like because all of the people like you said that are trying to you know toe that line and do talk about the things that most of those people it doesn't work out for especially if you're just like if you don't have a hook if you're just like some fucking like white dude that's doing comedy and you're like yeah oh and again if you're if you're not that person then like yeah that sucks like i guess maybe don't be a comedian right now if you don't feel like uh you know uh it's like to break it to make an omelet you need to break a few eggs

sort of situation you know yeah and i was watching dom irera's full frontal comedy recently which was a late 90s, I believe, comedy showcase that featured a bunch of comedians that are big now. But more than that, it featured a bunch of comedians that were never heard from again and didn't go anywhere. And you see these people performing and you realize, oh, this material they're spouting out could be told by absolutely anybody.

There's no point of view. There's no balls. And a lot of people say that was the turning point in Louis C.K.''s career is when he stepped away from that style of generic observational comedy into, I hate my kids. Marriage is miserable. I'm a fat, disgusting tub of lard. That became his material.

And that's when he took off because it's fucking dangerous. Your family could do to you when you start saying shit like that. And it's the same with the kind of comedy we do. We could get kicked off YouTube. Everybody that we went to school with could fucking ostracize us and everybody on our social media. But I think you and I realized that there's really no other way, but to do what we would like to do.

And the kind of material we want, if you don't follow what, yeah, you think is funny. You know what I mean? That's why it's like, I even have with the industry, like I do all these sketches and those are probably like the biggest thing and i get so

many anytime i'm talking to people in the industry or whatever it's always like so why are you doing all these like street interviews like this kind of like lowbrow shit yeah when you have this thing it's like it seems a lot and like a lot of people say that to me and i'm like because i think it's really funny and the people who like me think it's funny and you don't get that that's what i've been saying this with the, with the like, cause you know, most places are left wing,

but then there'll be the other places that are kind of reaching out to me that are like right wing. And they're like, Oh, we're free speech. And it's like, well, you're not,

you're partisan on the other side. It's like, you need a network that, that goes the way that like hip hop used to be or whatever, like where they go. I don't know what this guy is doing, but the kids seem to like it. Like that's what you,

that's what a fucking executive should be doing. Like sensing the energy of like, there's this guy's got a thing going on. I watched it and it was like special, not, you know, we'll decide our things, you know, bipartisan politics. So I think, I don't know. What do you think that the industry needs to change? Or do you think that the industry is like kind of screwed and there's people like you that are, you're like, why would I ever get involved with any of that?

And are you talking about the mainstream industry? Yeah, like, getting legitimate writing gigs for networks and shit? I mean, I think you're above writing gigs. I mean, in my opinion, like, you know, you're doing millions and millions of views. You've got this huge fan base. Like, I don't see why you'd ever want to leave that to go be a fucking writer on something. Totally.

You know, like, why wouldn't you have a television show or a net, you know, whatever that may be. Like, does that, what, do you think that world, you're just like why i'm what i'm doing is better or do you think that they could get their act together and maybe you'd be interested for a strict from a strictly economic standpoint i would never want to go do a netflix show or go work for some cable network because i've seen how much fucking money nelk and danny duncan make yeah yeah i think danny duncan makes i think Duncan makes a million dollars a month, no exaggeration, off

his merchandise. A million dollars a month with total autonomy over what he's putting out. So I don't see any reason to stray from YouTube after that. I sensed a little bit earlier in your question that this is what you were getting at. I actually think the state of the industry is not as bad as people make it out to be.

I think YouTube is an incredibly fair platform. I read a very fair other than the fact that they can just disintegrate you, but like they can, like the Alex Jones thing was, was fucking terrible. I absolutely hated that, but that seemed to be like, who fucking knows who was pulling the strings on that?

That was like fucking one of the Vanderbilts or fucking one of the Rockefellers that is faceless and like 98 years old and trying to establish a one world That was like fucking one of the Vanderbilts or fucking one of the Rockefellers that. Yeah. Faceless and like 98 years old and trying to establish a one world government doesn't want Jones blowing the whistle. But other than that, I mean, they let Steven Crowder fucking stay on. I've had one video. He's actually not saying anything that crazy. They just kind of pretend like he's really saying they're just saying like the conservative, you know, kind of talk. What about Nick DiPaolo? Nick DiPaolo is pretty good. Likeolo is pretty good like nick well they got rid of him he got kicked off

of youtube yeah you're right dipolo did yeah i think he got he got back on but yeah he got like three hate speech strikes and he got kicked like yeah nick you're right nick dipolo is constantly dealing with this dude nick dipolo is gnarly and he's one of my favorite comedians but i gotta check this out he's like your quintessential like new york like trump guy oh he's fucking great but i know i've only had one video removed and it was for bodily fluids and in retrospect i don't know what i was thinking being able to put it up on youtube or i don't know why i thought it wouldn't get taken down but i mean it was one of our buddies licking up vomit there was blood everywhere it was just a complete fluid orgy

that's all i've gotten taken down and like we said earlier i've done some gnarly stuff picking up girls with me too accusations nick dipolo show blocked on youtube for two weeks yeah two weeks is probably his second strike right yeah so i don't know the exact my point is it's like you know that stuff gets in you the same way that you're talking about like trying to listen to the industry gets in your head or listening to like the people that don't like or do like your stuff gets in your head it if it kind of can get in your head that stuff too so yeah i mean i hate saying stuff like this like it does fuck me up and i'm like oh god they're going after the polo and then i start reviewing my catalog in my head like oh where have

i gone too far? Do I need to start changing up my stuff? Because obviously if you and I got kicked off YouTube, that'd be fucking devastating. We don't want that. Yeah, we're not that ballsy. I mean, I don't know. Like I kind of, and when I do it,

I started like my, I was, and a lot of me is like, I'm surprised that you haven't, but I haven't got hate speech strikes and stuff like that on my podcast. So yeah, I think it should be pretty clear that we're not like fucking anti-semites or giant white supremacists or something like i've never i am uh nice but both things wow uh no i was saying this the other day like a lot of people will be like oh these white dudes are sexist homophobic and racist and i'm like no i'm just sexist well i'm homophobic so yeah all four

corners covered now yeah man it's i uh i don't think that there's any risk of us getting kicked off youtube and like the nicotine i love well the one thing is that's what that's the one thing about like you you know again like you said you got some cash now so you can get lawyers and deal with it so like you are there is a point where you're like a little better positioned but hey yeah can i i i gotta i do like questions and i do uh everyone can you uh want to answer this question with me let's do it let's do boys question i thought this is a pretty good one i feel like danny would have a good uh synopsis okay so this guy he's 18 years old the chick's 18 and he says bro i need help i'm dating a girl who i'm not into anymore and i want

to end it with i want to end it without her fucking killing herself or whatever something like that what's the best way to do it do you have any advice oh first of all she's 18 years old she's gonna be fine it's one thing to string along a girl for seven years couldn't agree more 30s and then cut her off when her eggs are starting to go bad. That's a scary thought, huh? That chicks need to choose wisely. Once they started getting to baby bearing age, an 18 year old dude,

it's completely fine in your own little universe of your mind. I know it seems like life or death, you breaking up with this girl, but, uh, be mature, tell her her pussy stinks and get the fuck out of town. Okay.

So let's say i couldn't agree more that that's the move it's like obviously just break up with this chick who cares but then when you're in logistics you're like i've literally been in scenarios where i was dating girl and because maybe i'm a pussy but twice in my life i've moved to a new city as a to break up with a chick dude i've moved to la and moved to new york but two times i've moved instead of breaking up like held it out till there and you're like i'm moving just because it's so hard so i was yeah Dude, I've moved to LA and I've moved to New York, but two times I've moved instead of breaking up, like held it out till there. And you're like, I'm moving just because it's so hard.

So I was- Yeah, and I have the same thing totally with work too. I was always afraid to put in my two weeks notice, which is the correct thing to do. I would just not show up and block all the- Right, it's very hard. It's tough to look somebody in the eye and tell them you're through.

I've never dumped a girl. I've only been dumped horribly, heartbreakingly twice. What for? What would you get dumped for? Like cheating or shit like that? Or just because you stink? I, when you fall hard for the first time, and especially when the girl might be

a little bit out of your league, which my first girlfriend was, she was a gorgeous Jewish girl, like incredible shape, tan skin, freshman at UCLA when I was at UCLA. And I couldn't think about anything else other than her. I would send her a text message and then wait. Really? You wouldn't strike me as that guy.

I was absolutely that guy. I don't know if I trust a guy who's never been, A, had a shit beat out of him, and B, been dumped horribly. I was absolutely that guy. I don't know if I trust a guy who's never been a, she had to shit beat out of him and be been dumped horribly. Right. I, uh, yeah, man.

And then that's just suffocating. Attention is repellent to everybody. And it was eventually to her and she broke up with me and she was all I could think of for four or five, six months, I think like a year after she dumped me. And then, uh,

the other girl told me she fucked the dude with a giant cock in her and i had a big 6.5 inch penis dude she told me she was like yeah i met this this black dude in france and he made me dinner and we had sex and it was a couple months before her and i started dating and i've got a very unimpressive or average penis and I couldn't get over that I just had this down why would you mention the cock self-esteem spiral I we were both coked out and I you had the cardinal sin of prying yeah I've committed two cardinal sins leaving my face in a dick picture and asking about the dick size of a girl's ex-lover don't do it don't do it 18 year old kid who asked this question but yeah i guess we're

you and i are both not the guys to ask this how do i let a girl down like no but i think so i i think i do have like somewhat of an answer because this is what i like the actual logistics of it you want to get it to the point where the hard part is to just mention it the first time right so you want to essentially whatever you normally fight about like if you're drinking or whatever get in that big fight like when you're drinking and then mention that like maybe we shouldn't be together whatever so get that into the air i think you need to get the idea that you potentially might be breaking up into the air a couple times and then you transfer these over to text messages especially if you're 18 because you probably talk on text message mostly so once you get the

attitude of we might be breaking up then now that you're on text you'd be like then you can craft your things of being like listen i honestly i'm thinking about it and then never make it about them make it about you so you go i just don't think that like i'm ready for this and like honestly you're perfect and maybe in like five years but i really like can't do this i need to figure some shit out act like you're tormented like i'm just like such a mess right now and i can't bring that on you you know never make it about her so i think i like how you leaned into your cowardice you're like well basically you need to create a fake fight and then you need to dovetail off that and what i was gonna do is like oh you need to be noble and you need to tell her to over a cup of tea at noon you need right now i think maybe we could find the people to listen to boys guys

are cool guys but we're all cowards yeah oh absolutely and i love how you were honest about it and i think too there might be opportunity right now depending on if these are college lovers if they're from different cities holidays are coming up which could mean prolonged absence from each other and i can't think of an easier way to do it than after having not seen right weeks because you and i both know like once you see the girl again and you fuck and then you go out and get lunch together uh you're not gonna have the balls to tell her it's done like no no no but if you do that's the other thing it's like did you want because this girl's only 18 you might want to leave it open for a couple more smashes in the future so you want to end on like you want to end on somewhat somewhat

good terms yeah i break up with her and then dm me on instagram her phone number because yes i didn't have danny take care of her like danny yeah but i uh i do think hopefully they're college students and then he can use that absence for winter break. That's great. To slow down the pace of communication to like once every other day, then once every now we're talking. Yeah. And then it's going to be a lot easier just to cut the cord.

Or you go with, I'm gay. Like, oh, these are legitimate options. These are all brave, mature ways to end a relationship. There was like, do you think, uh, these are all legitimate options. These are all brave, mature ways to end a relationship. There was like, do you think it also there's another part where it's funny because he's

like, you know, this girl is going to kill herself. And I've been that guy, too. And I'm just like, you know, this girl can handle breaking up with me. And it's like, it's just we're such fucking like egomaniacs sometimes. Like, I can't break up with this girl. So end it, dude. And no one can get broken up by me. Like their life would be over without me.

And you're like, she's fucking 18. It'll be nothing. It'll be a glip in her like thing, you know? Totally, man. I so feel for this guy. Like my girl and I got into a fight in July because for a video, I thought it was a comedy bit. I made out with a girl who one of our fans who had like spina bifida and had a cane and shit

he made out with a chick at a party who was super hot and I thought it'd be funny if we both made out with you have so many videos that you making out with chicks yeah you practice this on how to cheat for sure and now youtube video Danny fucks nine college girls like on different nights no cameras I did fuck a hooker in one of my videos, but she was repulsive, so it wasn't as big of a deal. Were you with your chick at the time? No, I wasn't. But she still knows about that video and wasn't repelled.

But her and I did have a talk about making out with chicks, and it's okay, my girlfriend said, if the girl is a six or down. Well, this girl was supposedly not a six or down. So we were fighting, and there was some distance between us because I was filming not a six or down so we were fighting and there was some distance between us because i was filming in a remote location and what you said ryan is totally true that once there's already conflict it becomes so much easier to terminate the relationship right so i guess what we're saying is create a false conflict create a false conflict but it can't

talk to her very often and uh geographical. If you have an aunt who lives in the Vale, Colorado, go visit her for winter. Yeah. See, this is why, like, even with this is why you're good at videos, right? It's like precision. I'm not here to give you the girl version, the Dax, you know, shepherd where it's like, honestly, you need to look inside yourself. And if you're not right for each other, it's like, we need a plan. We need execution to get out of this relationship. Yeah. I thought my girlfriend and I were going to break up during that fight. And so, yeah, your theory spot on.

I think my theory has some substance to it, too. I think we combine those. Yeah, you know what? Fight and distance. Fight and distance. You know what? Actually, I had one more point about the deck, even though I just brought it up again.

I'm going to look this fuck up. Yeah. The other thing that I was kind of thinking about this and i wanted you to weigh in on it is with a lot of those uh kind of guys especially ones that like seem more feminine or girls that give girls advice a lot of the advice is like how to get in touch with yourself or how to um you know heal like things that are wrong with you or become a better person but i feel like with men it's like no no figure out how to get what the heal like things that are wrong with you or become a better person but i feel like with men it's like no no figure out how to get what the fuck you want and then figure out that

stuff after isn't you know what i mean it's like that's more of a 40 thing it's like you know and the truth is like you actually might sometimes become a worse person or you might actually it's the covet thing right it's like the players that are the best are the players that can play with like an injury not the players that spend you know all their time fixing the injury sometimes right so i think that a lot of times it's like you're better off forgetting all that fucking mushy bullshit and figuring out how who you are as a you know obviously that comes natural but i think it's better to focus on like how to get the life you want like how to get you know put yourself set up financially and then totally give the whole rest of your life to you know figure out how to get, you know, put yourself set up financially and then totally give the whole rest of your life to, you know, figure out how to have a good relationship and how

to, you know. Totally, man. Self-esteem partially comes from within. And I've had to learn a lot of that this year. I've had to read a lot of books and figure out how to run my head to deal with the amounts amount of pressure I'm under. But then again, you can do all the soul searching and introspection you want. But if you still work as a fry cook at Denny's and you drive a 1992 Honda Civic, there's

a physical exterior reason why you have low self-esteem. And for me, Dr. Drew said this once. We'll come back to the example that's popped up a couple of times here. Penis size. Dr. Drew said that oftentimes men who are in their 20s and haven't accomplished anything real, their penis becomes an antenna for their insecurities and all of their insecurities that are really about their shitty relationship. The fact that they live with their parents, that they have a job where they're getting paid $8.32 an hour. All of those insecurities manifest

in penis fear. Whereas if once they start solving these problems that have to do with their life, all the insecurity, penis related and otherwise, starts to clear up. And for me, that's totally been the case. which was my day job before I started being a YouTuber, my sense of self-worth and my ability to go out in public and hang out with my friends and family and hold my head up high is completely changed. Yeah. And then you, then you can nurture all that other like bullshit afterwards, which you probably are. I bet you become a better person as a result of that. Totally, man. And, um, it's like as a YouTuber, I've had to learn how to be a ceo i didn't learn how to fucking do that when you're mad efficient i mean i mean even yesterday like you said you worked six days a week so we were gonna do this yesterday and then you were like listen like i gotta take the day off because yeah it's got like way too crazy is that is that your system sort of like work yourself to

the bone and then take like a day off like where you completely clear everything as opposed to yeah i think i mean to me that is like a way to do it but at the end of the day all that stuff looks messy but you get your video up on time every fucking week right sometimes this week it might come up on saturday actually sorry to disappoint everybody but but yeah man it's if you put in who was it was one of the great fucking generals like Eisenhower, MacArthur said, if a man does his best, what else is there? I think of a man does his best. What else is there? If a man is a good person, what else is there? I do my best every week, and that includes a day of rest. I used to try to do the seven days a week nonstop thing.

And that is actually not doing your best because you can't be your most productive self when you're not giving yourself any time to recover. I do that. I try to be a good guy. And if the video comes up late or if I'm overwhelmed or if I need to take a random Tuesday off, so be it. I'm doing my best and I'm trying to be a good person. So what's your like, Dan, on what's your like efficiency? What's your, do you have any like number one efficiency tips for people like that, like that you live by by because it sounds like you read books and all that stuff yeah do you have anything that becomes like a mantra where you're like this is one of the few i'll give you an example of one for me yeah yeah uh that i was just talking about this um when you're

organizing your days like it's one thing if you're like okay i have a day where i'm gonna do like 10 things and they're just odds and ends but most days have like one sole task you're gonna get done or at the very most two if you're splitting your day in half because mostly if you say you're gonna get six things done you're gonna get zero things done so if it's hey i'm editing this or today i'm doing a bunch of press or today i'm writing i'm writing this script you know yeah whatever it is if you have more than two things that you're going to get done, you probably just end up getting a bunch of things done crappily. Yeah.

That's another thing too, man. I need to learn how to delegate better. Because right now there are definitely more than two things I'm doing. But I would say there are two primary things. It usually comes down to comedy preparation, which is studying comedy and writing comedy, and then editing. And then there are other things. It usually comes down to comedy preparation, which is studying comedy and writing comedy and then editing. And then there are other things like there'll be a podcast here or there'll be sorting out some Instagram clips to post or to do some merchandise stuff. Talk to an artist,

talk to my supplier guy. I think that's good advice. I will just add on top of some of the more cliched ones like wake up early make your bed which i think absolutely do work jb great drug addict jordan peterson people get so mad dude i've said that a couple times in the podcast and then people fucking go crazy when you talk shit about jordan peterson here's 12 rules for life right here i like jordan peterson but i always think it's funny but it's just funny that like you know he whatever i know everyone's correcting me already but because he had the addiction to the painkillers or whatever the thing i don't know what the story is and then he went to these doctors and he has this thing and it was just like it was just funny to me that like you know everyone's hero is like to say he's a

drug addict always make me laugh yeah i mean who knows though he might have taken like a half a bottle of prescribed volume and freaked out and thought he was an addict and went in and turned himself in preemptively i just don't have any tolerance for that stuff in my normal life like if i have a friend that's like going through like you know he's had to take a year off because you know he's really going through this addiction to pain i go or whatever yeah i tend to be the same way you are man i tend to not really tolerate excuses in myself or in others i totally run himself dry the guy ran himself to the bone you know what i mean he just that in my opinion that's what happened with jordan peterson he fucking for three years straight he ran himself to the fucking ground yeah and a lot of people hated

him too man it's not easy being a controversial top uh person like you or i it's just not easy it's not easy being on top or being successful has a lot of great things about it but it's got a lot of negatives associated with it it's very stressful oh it's absolutely and uh i'll say a way that i've cured that stress that's been huge for me is being grateful. I've read enough now that you tend to see lessons repeated over and over in history, whether they be from Stoics or in the Bible or more modern guys like Jordan Peterson or Tony Robbins. There seems to be this reoccurring theme of gratitude.

And so I do in the morning after I make my coffee, think of five things I'm grateful for. And if I'm stressed out and I'm having a hard time getting to bed, I write down physically five things I'm grateful for before I go to bed, because there are a lot of massive conveniences in your life right now. Or if you just take the time to look around and appreciate them, your heart rate will go down. It changes your body chemistry. Yeah, totally, man. And it's, I mean, you and I are driven guys. We're always thinking about what the next investment is going to be. The next chunk of money that's going to hit our bank account and what we're

going to do with it. But right now, if you realize, if you look around, like I've got fucking shelter, I've got running water. I've got a refrigerator full of food. I'm fucking fine,

dude. I have family and friends who love me. Six inch piece. I got a six inch cock and it's it's not that thin very thin it's like a blade of grass pretty thin but it's not that it could be worse yeah that's great dude i i like uh i do know what you mean it's like even just a way of changing things in your brain like when you think of things like i said this in a different podcast but it's like oh you have to do this and you'll be like no i get to do this you know it's like okay i have this this all all these things

you go look at three years ago all of those there's a bunch of stuff that i wouldn't that i would have wanted and those are in place now so that's you know some of these absolutely and you go and i said it does get corny when you get on these topics but i was like someone was like well you know what if you don't see him, you're in the shepherd territory. Yeah. And you go, but you, but it's,

it's the difference. Cause you're talking about actual things as opposed to yourself. But yeah, it's like, you can still be bad, but be better than you were a month ago. Yeah. So it's like looking at like the improvement versus the,

like, uh, the actual, what do you call it? Yeah. The improvement versus the absolute. Yeah, yeah. Or comparing yourself to other people like Nelk or Danny Duncan who make a million a month.

It's easy to compare yourself to them or people. There's always someone bigger. Absolutely. Or there's always somebody who you think in the moment is funnier than you. You can fucking have a podcast guest on guest on who kills you're like oh god damn it this guy's making me look kind of bad or you can go to a comedy show when a guy's material is just stellar and then you're like oh fuck i'm nothing compared to this guy and uh you can't do that dude like i mean i was watching fucking football monday night tom brady looked like

fucking garbage but he's still tom brady yeah i'm gonna come out next week and have a killer game he's still the greatest of all time everybody has bad days it just you got to um be grateful for what you have i think and and detach yourself with it like that even when you're talking about someone like tom brady it's like you get sometimes you get so much fucking like people like hating or yelling at you or whatever and then you kind of you take it so personally but if you look at you know the you know like football players it's the same thing and you go whatever like you wouldn't think of them like oh that must be hard but he they all deal with that but i think the reason why it's a little different now is because when i get hate i actually am not thinking like oh i'm mad that

these people hate me or whatever i'm thinking like oh fuck are they gonna can am i getting canceled i'm like i'm more like this is fuck, am I getting canceled? I'm more like, this is like a legitimate threat that needs to be neutralized. Yeah. I don't think we're big enough to be canceled. I don't.

Dude, I know some, in the comedy community, I know 10 open mic comedians that are like ostracized from Toronto because of like nothing. So you know, I don't think people get fired

from their job at fucking kinkos because of you know you and i as long as we don't get kicked off youtube which again i don't think is gonna happen like you always have this forum to make a living you're right that's why you're doing it right well patreon is even worse than youtube as far as censorship so that's not necessarily always something we can count on i have thought like if i got kicked off patreon i would just have to focus on merch a lot more but yeah even if you got kicked out of the local comedy scene like fuck them what are they they're performing to a room of 30 people but you if you're a stand-up like you can't do stand-up anymore yeah dude i think it's like being a scientist and they're like you're

banned from every lab in new york i mean why do you want to do stand-up do you want to do it just for the artistic pursuit do you want to do it forup? Do you want to do it just for the artistic pursuit? Do you want to do it for financial reasons? Because I'm more and more starting to see stand-up as obsolete as a career path. Yeah. I mean, stand-up, I don't think is the career path. That's not how I look at it. Stand-up is the business card. So to me, stand-up is the whole thing.

So all of this, if you think of my orbit or whatever, like my life is a little solar system or whatever you want to think of it, stand up to the centerpiece, right? That's you, like raw. That's like your opinions. And not everyone's like that. I mean, there was a time in my life where that centerpiece was music and then I was like doing shows around that.

But it depends on like where. But for me, that's like the purest one. That's kind of like the only one that doesn't involve any other components and it's just like here's my hour of and it's the only objective art form too right so me and you could look at our videos and we could say oh maybe this one's better you maybe can look at views you can maybe take opinions stand-ups like with the only art form that's like sports where it's actually there's an objective component where two people go back to back so someone could be like oh this guy's bigger he's better it's like oh well let's see

let's see let's go in crowd 20 minutes and do it back to back let's see so to me that's the like the 100 meter dash even if you're an nfl player chris d'alia has put up multiple netflix specials that are unwatchable and he was still the biggest comedian in the world until you know again though and that's listen i'm not like some chris dElia apologist. And I mean, for his comedy, not for the other stuff. But like, if you talk about him specifically, that is perfect. It's like so much people will go, Chris D'Elia is the worst. They hate it or whatever. Okay.

Right. He's a great podcaster. He is a great podcaster. Let's just stick with a standup and people go, okay, this guy's not going to stand up, but he is though. You might not like it it but like he objectively is and even though things people say they go oh he doesn't even tell jokes and you go okay will you go kill for an hour without telling jokes as you say that's even makes it even harder again i don't

really like it it's just like there isn't objectivity to this it's like a basketball player that like scored 20 baskets and you're like i or however many is him a lot of baskets and you're like this guy sucks and you're like he doesn't though so chrystalia again i don't like this isn't my it's for chicks it's for whatever but if you put him in a room he murders i went out to new york we did a comedy show in new york last year and we sold it out as i can put on me people went fucking nuts people were so psyched to see me and i went up there and i did my fucking material i was hammered drunk it went okay and a lot of people would say objectively i'm a good stand-up comedian if the only metric is putting butts in seats and getting laughs but i know i'm

a terrible stand-up comedian well i mean just because you haven't done it that much like you obviously are a funny dude like every person that i know that's hilarious uh eventually was good at stand-up there's lots of you know there's lots of in between but the it's like it really was when i started stand-up the three guys that i know they were like the three funniest people in the scene like by a long shot lo and behold 10 years later those are the three best stand-ups yeah you know what i mean yeah as stand-up for me i wanted i was like you and i'm not saying like oh i've grown beyond here this feeble mindset but i know i i get it stand-ups fucking stupid it's a stupid life it's a crappy art but like you know it just is what it is yeah i used what i'm doing feeling that that was the thing that i needed to focus on and everything

else was just a way to arrive at the end of touring and going and selling out theaters. But then I started to realize that like, there are a lot of people who have done comedy very, very well over the past 50 years. And a lot of times I listened to like a Greg Giraldo or to a Nick DiPaolo. And I'm like, that guy just said like half the shit I think about and wish I could write good material about it's been done whereas youtube is a new frontier there are shows that have been similar to mine on network television or on cable but they had a bunch of corporate advertisers behind them they had a star who was probably a stand-up comedian himself and didn't really want to be there and wasn't too

invested youtube is this place where i can be solely focused on this and put in six days a week to make a unique creative comedy forms. So I've started to see it to me as a more valuable path for me personally. It's a 100%. And even on more important than that, your formative years were spent there, right? So it's like, there is this other element of like a lot of people, if your formative years are spent at standup, like that is kind of how you like interface with comedy in the world like even how i do my videos like it all kind of stems from like how i like interface with energy and find out what you can say on stage where that's not how you developed how to do that so i think for you it is true it's like for for you to switch now and be like oh i'll be like a stand-up it's like you'll be at like a disadvantage

even because you just didn't like you didn't uh you're obviously like a fully formed human with like a perspective and you know an infrastructure and so i think that you know you'd have to break that down and build it up again to start stand up at like where you're at in your career so i think it just depends on like who the person is and what their life's like yeah stand up you gotta do a lot of nasty introspection too. I feel like in some way I'd be less happy if I started letting in all the dark thoughts. Like I read a lot of fucking literature,

like William Faulkner, Urs Hemingway. Those guys were just miserable, sad sacks of shit. And you sort of had to be that way. I hate the sad artists. It's bad, dude. New York's the ultimate sad boy town too. Totally, totally, man. It's lame.

And then for stand-up, I feel like I'd have to get into that a little bit more. I'd have to start going out more and having more human interactions. Where now I can just do everything from behind my desk, just happy as shit. And so maybe it's that psychological out, too, that I don't have to be like a sad, introspective guy to do this. I agree, dude. No, I think you're fucking killing it. So I wouldn't uh if i was if it was all like if i was doing it again and i was starting now i don't think i would but that's

just you know it's not gonna like rewrite what the situation is and for me totally also i take my primary influence is stand-up i was listening to was listening to this morning uh doug stanhope like a doug stanhope album from 2009 like that during the day like that's what's always going through my head or what i'm pumping into my brain is just stand-up so i totally respect the art form i think the best comedians are in stand-up i just for me personally don't want to get some of them like i don't think any you know like you want to take fred armisen or mike myers like it's it doesn't matter right it's like they're just whatever you choose there's lots of fucking talented people doing all. Yeah, so there's no right or wrong answer.

And you already like are fucking running a little empire. So like how would you step away from that and spend 30 hours a week on fucking, it just doesn't make sense at all. It's so much hard work. I mean, you know as well as anybody that to become competent at stand-up, it's not the same. Like an example is Adam Carolla, who I think is one of the most gifted angelic comedians that exists. His ability to just talk into a microphone and make it as hilarious as any standups act is incredible to me. But when he does real standup, there's something off. It doesn't work because he doesn't have the hours logged. And that's a great example of how singular your pursuit of standup must be to be great.

Yeah. Even, even, and it's, I think, I think Patton Oswalt said this, but it's like everyone who becomes great at standup kind of needed like at least seven years where that's the only thing they thought about.

And it's true, but it's really hard to, even now it's like, I kind of, it's, it's, I wouldn't be able to like, now I'm at this place where I'm like fully formed as a comedian and a video maker and all that stuff. It's like, I mean, you it's, it's, I wouldn't be able to like, now I'm at this place where I'm

like fully formed as a comedian and a video maker and all that stuff. It's like, I mean, you say you read a lot and stuff, but when you're learning how to do something new, do you have time to like really step aside from what you're doing and, you know, spend three months or a year, like really, it's like you're, you're 30 now. It's like the twenties was the time to develop your like skills. It's like, once you're 30, you're kind now. It's like the twenties was the time to develop your like skills. It's like, once you're 30, you're kind of to some degree, like, all right, these are the skills now get to work and you use what you have. And then maybe 40, you step back. If you've got money, maybe you take two years, whatever it is. But I think in terms of like how to design your life,

I think once you get 30, it's like, you can't afford like four, four new years of like, oh, let's start. It's like kind of like, no, this is the time to use what you like built in yourself and your skill set and your life. Like try to do something great with it now. Right. Totally, man. You should have hopefully identified something in your youth that you were really good at or that you had some sort of proclivity for. And you should have developed that hopefully in your 20s and once you're at 30 it becomes hard to do what you and i did in our 20s to be on tour to be broke to be uh working in a kitchen when you have a family and impossible when it's no longer cute so yeah it's no longer romantic. Absolutely not.

30s to cut off where it's legitimately like that. 3-0 is when everyone's like, all right, dude, it's not cool anymore. Yeah, yeah. In 40s when it gets sad. Yeah, but if you're listening to this, I don't think you should necessarily fucking shoot yourself in the head with a pistol if you're 32 and you haven't made it yet and

whatever what does made it mean i just mean like yeah i don't mean made it i mean like have your shit together don't be fucking a mess don't have like all your relationships in that mess don't like have your fucking not like depression like in any way out of control don't be like hugely overweight like just have your fucking life together you know i'm not saying that have like there's anything wrong with having any job like you know what i mean yeah absolutely like if you want to be a stand-up or if you want to try stand-up and you're 39 you better have a desk job during the day and you better be working after hours yeah and you better have an apartment that you rent and some money saved or have made a bunch of money and then you can that was the biggest

advice that if i say i look back when i was 20 that I've messed up was I really kind of bought into the idea that like worry about the art and like don't worry about the money. Whereas like I really should have been like, no, it's the opposite. It's like figure out how to make money and then you can actually do your fucking art and get great. You know, like the people that fucking ran some company when they were like 20 kind of made like 400K and then like worked for the next. You know, you can really do great things with like money is like so necessary. And I think it's like in America, in North America, we talk maybe in Canada more. But you sort of like there's that like dirty connotation. But you're like, no, it's just a fucking tool like anything else.

And you need it. So figure out how to make it in your rest of your life easier. Yeah. It's like your moral responsibility, really. Ooh, I like that. Yeah, it is because if you ask me who the, I mean, the biggest shitbags in the world to me are people who are on welfare, who are having a bunch of kids that they can't pay for.

They're probably leading a lifestyle that's going to fuck up their kids, whether it's the stepdad coming in and molesting the daughter or the son growing up to be a gangbanger. The poor, I know the fucking AOC and fucking Joe Biden jerk them off as if they're these fucking angels, but the best people on earth are like T-Boone Pickens and John D. Rockefeller, who donated millions and millions of dollars to charity. They actually did something to help people or somewhere in between those two extremes is a person who's able to take care of his family and his parents in old age

and his girlfriend and his wife and his kids and you need money to do that yeah you can put yourself in a position where you can actually help people as opposed to like you're like what's what's what's more important like what's better to the world like a guy who fucking seemed selfish but actually helped a lot of people or a person that like that seemed like they were nice but didn't actually do anything and i think that's like the fucking it's people hated jp morgan because he cheated on his wife all the time and he fucked up the economy sometimes for being sick yeah and he smoked a lot of cigars i that was the reason i like him with all the philandering but he also anonymously donated tens of millions of dollars, probably hundreds of millions in today's money,

to hospitals that took care of poor women. He did all kinds of shit for people, donated massive amounts of money to art museums and universities. But everybody thinks J.P. Morgan, oh, he's rich, he must be evil. No. Yeah, I watched that series, The Men Who Built America. He must be evil. No. Yeah. I watched that series. Uh, the men who built America,

it was pretty crazy. They fucking went through their story. That's a recommended. If you want to get the scoop on what I was talking about, if you want to know who JP was fucking watch men who built America. Yeah. But I think that's a good place to let you go. But dude,

that was a fucking awesome conversation. You're the man. That was great, man. I love it, dude. What's your, uh, what's your socials? Let everyone know, uh, where to find you go. But dude, that was a fucking awesome conversation. You're the man. That was great, man. I loved it, dude. What's your socials? Let everyone know where to find you.

Sure, man. Yeah, just Danny Mullen on YouTube is the main thing. And then Danny Mullen on Instagram and Twitter if you care more than the people

who just look at the YouTube channel. Yeah, and if you like my stuff, especially like the street stuff, I'm 90% sure you're going to fucking love Danny. All right,

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