The Boyscast with Ryan Long - #65 PUNKS, BI'S and THE DEPRESSED

Episode Date: May 7, 2021

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And you can tell our friends, and they can have my things when we're dead. We're gonna live forever. We're gonna live forever. And you can tell our friends. It's BoyzCast time! Friday, Friday, Friday! Friday! Hey, I liked your Elon Musk joke. It's the hard money joke. Elon Musk prepares to host snl by saying my wife and bore out verse to grime several times a day probably not super that's the pinnacle of humor

yeah well it's i mean it's still funny you you have to stop yourself from for me it's my wife and was up that was my comedic was solid you know what was your comedic influences mainly the was up commercial um okay so before we get into a trillion things um i always thought it was uh because there's a lot of talk about cancel culture it's a hot topic these days but no one really talks about the the real cancel culture which is i've been banned from lyft once again so i I've been, this is the fourth time I was banned and I keep having to get people to do my, call me Lyfts.

But so, and what about Uber? Well, Uber, I got banned a while ago. You're banned for life? I don't know. I've been trying to get it back. It's been difficult.

I'm in, I'm in talks with the people at Uber to get my account back. Didn't we take one yesterday? No, I got banned after that. Oh, you got banned later. So basically...

Were you doing eating, drinking, or in the house? So basically they say that... So I've been banned four times and I don't not wear a mask in the thing. You just lazy wearing? Well, one time I got banned

because the guy said I opened the door on the wrong side of the street. Okay. It was the issue. And then the other three times, yeah, I was like eating or had a coffee in the Uber

so I took my mask down for two fucking seconds. Yeah. And then they snitched on me, yeah, it was like eating or had a coffee in the Uber. So I took my mask down for two fucking seconds. Yeah. And then they've snitched on me. Tyrants. I see. I never really give bad ratings, but I just don't get,

why would you finish the ride? I'm out of your car. And then you go, let me ban this guy. Just, well, because you tell me if you're a hand. Well,

I guess they're, they're supposed to rate you. Like you're supposed to write them. Why? Why bother? I get out of their car and they go make sure this guy can never take another lift again yeah they're protecting they think they're protecting the citizens yeah because i had a sip of coffee without my hazard hazmat suit on

ryan's a yellow cab anyways i'm gonna have to do yellow cabs but the yeah the lift system in new york they've been they if you so much as look at them the wrong way, they're Lyft Nazis. Anyways, I saw this tweet, and I thought it was kind of going viral. And basically the girl, which is sort of something that I've been saying for a while, but they said, I've been watching boondocks, you know boondocks.

Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. I've been watching boondocks for the first time, and I have feelings. I understand the viewer is supposed to laugh at some of these characters but I must say it feels gross as an exceedingly melanin deficient person to laugh at black characters

I mean that was always my issue with the Cosby show I got tagged a lot of the woke racist memes I saw that that's what you said when you were watching Cosby these poor black doctors how am I supposed to laugh at them? But this is what I've been saying for fucking ever. That these people...

It's a fucking prisoner's dilemma. Or maybe it's not a prisoner's dilemma. But basically, they go, Hey, we need comedy to be all marginalized people. Which is 90% of the population now. So that's comedy has to be marginalized people. But also, you can't laugh at marginalized people. So the only thing that she can laugh at

is black comedy about how sick they are. Yeah, exactly. The moment they have any sort of self-deprecating humor. And the point is, and even on top of that, you go, okay, the type of person that's online complaining about this, being like, I can't watch Boondocks because I can't laugh at black people or whatever.

You think she likes Def Jam where they're talking about how sick they are like do you think she likes bernie mack she's not a def jam well that's what you should say you should go listen i know that you can't laugh at black people that's you know obviously i understand your infrastructure but here's six minutes of bernie mack talking about how big dig it big as dick is he goes i'm blessed and she goes this is do you like what do you think she likes that so it's like what can you laugh at she likes lena donna no she uh that yeah that on that track because the only thing she can really watch is black people making fun of her yes yeah like if she's in the audience and be like no they give her they hand her a whip and they're like whip yourself because they go yes sir see white people're like, whip yourself. She goes, yes, sir. See, white people drive like this.

She goes, ah. She goes, black people drive. I've heard enough. Yeah. White people drive. Now I'm listening again. What does she call herself? Melanin deficient.

Yeah. Also melanin deficient. It's amazing. That's so funny. Because she's trying to make it like a negative. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You're like, it's literally all white people are like, it's a negative. But yeah, we're all, we're all missing something that she's missing something they're not you know yeah we're all melanin deficient but there's nothing but the original thing didn't have anything that was uh bad like you go you're white you're black you're like it's as if you go they're not missing something you're missing something we go well no one said they're missing something we go well we it's like basically calling black people like pigmentally challenged that's like no they're pigmentally well no it's like it's you can call itally challenged. No, they're pigmentally. Well, no, it's like you could call it either,

but like you're saying that, oh, you're pigmentally. And they're like, no, we're just. Yeah, yeah. So anyways, this is what I've been saying forever is you get in a situation where they get themselves into a corner where they go put the, you know, you have to put. This is the problem that I was having when I was making TV shows because it was very diversity central. And I go, yeah, I'm down,

you know, that life hack, just black guys. Yep, yep. Black dudes and brown dudes. Black dudes and brown dudes. Can't go wrong. Yeah, exactly. Where they're like,

well, we actually want you to put a guy in a wheelchair. You're like, wow, that's going to be tough for me. I can put one of my black friends in a wheelchair, but he's not in a wheelchair. I think, oh,

you definitely can't do that. Yeah, I'll put Drake in the sketch. Yeah, but he's not in a wheelchair. they go oh you definitely can't do that yeah but he's not in a wheelchair but then so but then they have to be the hero and you go anyways I've been talking about this forever and it's uh I thought it was just funny I haven't never watched the Boondocks

I've heard lots of people talk about it's a great show who's it written by I don't know it's black people so it's like she's watching a show about black people by black people and she's like i can't laugh at this for black people is the part that you're missing daniel but i know white people have like i know she's i'm saying she's wrong but that's essentially her point is i should this isn't for me my favorite part about people like that who are so wrong is when they publicly are wrong and then like there's

50 000 people who are like you're wrong and then she's like no no it's you who is wrong it is you who is wrong for watching that show and enjoying it yeah exactly she's like she can't all the feedback in the world could not change her mind about that well it's almost like she because in her i think because she's like what else am i wrong about that i'm like core principles of course there's no there's no backtracking. But when you're in that world where you're living in a world where you think that the worst of everyone in the world, she thinks that someone like you, a Nazi, Jewish Nazi, would be watching Boondog Stans being like, ha ha, look at these fucking idiots.

Oh, for sure. Oh, what an idiot. This just confirms everything i've ever thought about the blacks look at this god you have a job that's how they that's how they think that you're watching the boondocks isn't one of them a samurai or something no i don't yeah i think there's well there's always japanese imagery and all black stuff like the wu-tang clan too they all they love fucking kung fu they love karate now now comedian male comedians love karate because of Joe Rogan but before we even get into the

the bulk of things I thought it was important for us to bring up uh the recent development so some people that have been following the cast for a while may have heard some inkling of this story um a certain Roberto Alomar so story. A certain Roberto Alomar. So give the stats on Roberto Alomar. That seems like something you would know. Two-time World Series champion. I think he's like a six-time All-Star, five-time All-Star in the Hall of Fame.

Not the Jays Hall of Fame. Played for the Blue Jays, right? Played for the Blue Jays and then the Orioles. And then he was famously spit in the face of the umpire. Yeah, and didn't he say he had AIDS? There was a rumor he had AIDS. So he spit in the umpire's face and there was a rumor he had AIDS. No, but the rumor about the AIDS wasn't at the time.

That's gross. Well, so I have a not rumor. So basically, recently, he was going to be in the MLB. No, no, no. The Hall of Fame. No, he's in the Hall of Fame. He was going to be in something like a Hall of Fame. No, no, no.

Okay, so he's in the MLB Hall of Fame. And it's hard. That's the hard Hall of Fame to get into. Okay. in it so it's a great accomplishment he's a great player um he worked this guy always yeah uh not actually i don't i'm you love him i don't know continue i like carlos you're in love with them i like carlos dogadova but anyways he um he worked for the jays as like a scout or something and then there was this like investigation into something he did like five years ago sexual the MLB investigated it so I take away from him I'm saying so he's like basically can't work with Major League Baseball any longer and he does all

this stuff in Toronto they have like the circle of excellence which is like your names up there which is a big deal there's only like you know eight players they removed him down okay so they're taking all this they're They're canceling. And he's being canceled from baseball. And basically what it is, is some alleged sexual assaults from like 20 years ago. No, from 2014.

The one thing I'll say is this isn't like he's getting vilified in the court of public opinion. Like it's not that at all. It's the opposite. They did a straight up like private independent investigation. Like he had, you know, the opportunity to defend, you know, they didn't straight up like private independent investigation like he had you know the opportunity to defend you know they didn't like be like we're gonna let the court of public opinion decide and then mlb's like yeah this is too much for us so i'm not if this is my point has nothing to do with roberto his case the girl i mean it might have something to do with this this is all that

all that i'm saying was in my group of friends, one of the all time mysteries is we, one of my buddies, sister's friends, and this is, this has got to be late nineties, early two thousands goes to Roberto Alomar's hotel room. He has a hotel room.

So he famously famously had a hotel. So he can pick the girls out while he's batting, he could send his scouts out to pick up the girls. And they'd send them up to his hotel. Mr. Baseball was the nickname at the time. Mr. Baseball, Roberto Alomar. She goes up to the room. My buddy, sister's friend. Up to the room. He's in there.

Mr. Baseball. Big deal for her. She's sitting in the hotel room. You know, anticipation. She's probably, what, like 19 or something? Probably, yep. Probably 19, 20. You know, she's in the room feeling good about this.

She's with Mr. Baseball. Mr. Baseball goes to the bathroom. He says, he's going to freshen up a little bit. Yeah, of course. Got to freshen up. Mr. Baseball emerges from the bathroom with a towel on, exclusively just a towel, no clothes, drops the towel, and then says the words that have been forever famous, get to the cock.

That's where the story ends. That's where it ends. Nobody knows if she got to the cock. It's one of life's greatest mysteries whether she got to the cock. That's all the information that I have to provide to you. Mr. Baseball said get to the cock. It's one of life's greatest mysteries whether she got to the cock. That's all the information that I have to provide to you. Mr. Baseball said get to the cock. Did she get to it? Did she not get to it?

This is a question that people in my friend group have been pondering for ages. And a piece of information here that potentially, and they're doing their own investigation, but I'm doing a parallel investigation to find out whether the girl got to the cock. MLB's also been investigating it apparently. Well, MLB, they're already convinced she got to the cock. And she didn't want to get to it. Well, that's what they said.

That's what MLB's saying. She got to it, but she didn't want to get to it. We never heard. So this is a move of his. So this wasn't a one-time pop for him. Do you think she's the first girl? So some of the theories that have been floating around in various group chats is that maybe this is a possibility. Is that there was a girl that was told to get to the cock.

And then when all this came out, she thought it was her special line. So she's not happy. Possibly a jilted cock getter. Yeah, she goes, what? You said that? I thought that was our thing. Yeah. Option two is what Danny's saying,

is that she got to it against her will. Yeah, that's possible. Or she just got to it and then felt bad about it later. Option three. So there's a lot of options. Just the regret. But after big investigations

it is leading to the fact that uh friend's sister friend sister's friend got to it got to it for sure yeah he wasn't she got to oh i mean if i had to say even before even before this came out if i had to guess she got to it we didn't want to jump because this if she didn't want to jump to hasty conclusions. If I had to guess, she got to it. We didn't want to jump to hasty conclusions. Because if she didn't get to it, then there's the whole story of she's like, yeah, and I fucking stormed out of there. And I would have loved to find that out, but we didn't have that information. And every time we bothered his sister to ask her more stuff, she told us no. She told us no, she wouldn't ask. Because we'd be like, we need to know.

We were fucking 16 at this time. Right. And then his sister's like 21. She'd be watching TV. And then seven 16-year-olds would come in being like, we need you to ask if she got to the cock. And she'd be like, get the fuck away from me. We're like, this is very important.

Can you give us her name? We'll ask her. She goes, I'm not giving you my friend's name so she can ask if she got to the cock. And we go, well, someone's going to ask her. We'd offer her money. We go, what's it going to take for us to ask her? And she'd be like, leave me alone. Do you think after 20 years, maybe we could find out?

Well, that would be a good thing right now. I was talking to the guy whose sister it is, and we have been floating the idea of opening her investigation. Yeah, open it up. Let's reopen this cold case. Let's get this cold case open. Anyways, that's all I have to say on that. I'm not here to draw conclusions.

The investigation is still pending. We might put a tail on the sister's friend if we can get that contact. See if she's getting any other cocks. See if she's getting to those two. See if she goes to a hotel with Mr. Basketball. There's a lot of things. She's probably like 40 now. Well, that's the thing.

We ask her. Me and 10 of my friends show up at her door. Yeah, she's got two kids. She's like playing with her husband and her dog. Hey, did you get to Robbie's cock? We're all wearing detective uniforms. Seven guys. We all have pads. It's a bunch of gum shoes.

We're like, so, did you get to the cock? We all have pens with pads. Who are you guys? We're so-and-so's sister's friends. Do you remember? She goes, who? You were friends with her in high school. It's in light of the Robbie Alomar development.

We have some questions for you. Are you police? He goes, my wife's not home. He's in light of the Robbie Alomar development. We have some questions for you. Are you police? He goes, my wife's not home. He goes, okay, well, when she comes home. Can you just ask her? A quick question for her. Did she get to? No, you go.

We don't even say that. We go, listen. You just ask her, did she or did she not get to it? She'll know what we're talking about. You probably won't need to say more than that. She'll know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, exactly. And then imagine she comes to the door.

We just knock on the door. She opens it. Fuck, you found me. I got to it. What took you so long? What took you so long? What took you so long? Smoking.

Between me and you. I got to it. Oh, I got to it. Oh, I got to it. Okay, so. That's funny. Anyways, that's it. Yeah, I mean, in the 90s,

I don't think you had really a choice to not get to it. You think you're off Europe up in the hotel with Mr. Baseball? If you go up to the hotel with Roberto Alomar, I mean, again, like a lot of women will be like, you know, women are naive and they don't realize that's what it is. And then guys are like, what do you think you're going to do? You're saying that if you go up in the room with Mr. Baseball and you don't get to it, you become Mr. Thrown in your clothes in 1990s

like Toronto, where it's like the Jays were actually like huge two World Series. What I should do is the South Park dress up like a woman and meet Mr. Baseball meet Robbie Alomar. Do a big stay down a girl's outfit and then wait for him to say the line. I guess

I don't know what I'd be solving other than the fact that he said the line, which we already know. So I'm back to square one. Yeah, we know he said the line. I guess the real question we'd be solving is would Ryan get to the cockpit? Yeah, yeah. Would he get to it?

So based on my experience extrapolating, I think she got to it. Did you suck Robbie Alomar's dick? No, no. No, but she probably did. No, she probably did. I'm not gay. I'm saying I felt compelled to, though,

so my guess was I obviously resisted the urge to suck Mr. Baseball's dick. So there was, moving on, there was, you know the band The Misfits, right? Yeah. So there's a big uproar, because I obviously follow the punk community still. Yeah, they're like,

the one guy's a bit conservative guy, right? Well, there's lots of people. Jerry only? No, I'm talking about Glenn Danzig. So the story is, and there are. He's the guy who replaced Danzig. Okay, so there's a lot of people. There's like a guy from the Ramones and the Sex Pistols

that's always getting in trouble because they have the wrong opinions or whatever. But it was an interesting fucking shitstorm. so basically glenn danzig basically said that his band wouldn't have been able to exist and punk wouldn't have been able to exist because of woke bullshit that's the quote yeah so as expected the you know community woke mob well yeah the mob of woke people as expected they lit their fucking pitch for so yeah and their coaches and but there was a lot of people being like this fucking idiot and then there's a lot of people that saying you know he's old and he doesn't get it and i was kind of looking the whole thing and it is sort of a i feel like i think that he's wrong and not wrong but i kind of so to dissect it so he is right that that band couldn't

happen in this culture i mean the songs that he's talking about are literally about raping babies and stuff yeah like they're like all monsters they're all halloween songs right but the other part that i thought so every culture couldn't happen other than its time. Of course. Right? So you go every subculture existed as a rebellion against to something, you know, some specific thing, right? Yeah. But what I think it goes, and this kind of goes back to what I was talking about last week that I've been thinking a lot about, again, over the course of this week, is, you know, I was sort of saying the idea that with liberals, people like they cling on to these words. Right.

And to me, it's kind of seeing that with Danzig. And, you know, he's always talking about what's punk and what's not punk. But they are right that like he doesn't own punk anymore. And that's what it is now. And if he came out now being like a rebellious whatever guy that goes against a trend, he wouldn't have been. The correct answer is if he came out now, he wouldn't have been punk. Yeah, he wouldn't have been punk correct answer is if he came out now he wouldn't have been punk yeah he wouldn't have been punk like you would have been something else right now yeah do you know what i mean he would have been kid rock he would have been doing some other

version of that like most of the people that are fucking stirring shit up and being rebellious aren't in that subculture because it is a very self-policed like subculture like any other one yeah so and it's a pretty woke like like punk's super woke right now, right? Right. And this is kind of what was making me think about all this stuff, is the idea that, oh, my ride's here. The police, the siren, that's the oldest hack joke in the book. But if you go...

Pretty sure that was a fire truck. It really is, and people talk a lot about the identity politics and all that stuff. But really, if you control people's identities, you get to control what they do. Because the cost to people is so high for them to change their identity. Oh, it's huge. Exactly, right? So it's probably the strongest, like, it really probably is the strongest way to control people ever. I mean, anyone that's

punk you know that considers himself that that's my identity i've got the jacket on they go well we think this now or you're not punk yeah exactly or you which is probably how punk used to be too it's like they just had a set of ideals i guess i don't know yeah but i think that yeah and there's always different ones like there was him and there's other versions of it. So I'm going to read a little bit of the article, but it really boils down to why you want to fucking, you got to be able to keep your identity fluid or else people fucking control you. Yeah. Oh, for sure. So they said the song Last Caress, whose notorious lyrics feature boastful lyrics, references to rape and killing babies as an example of something that would perhaps not fly nowadays we would and he said we would just do things to piss people off

which is like you know so much of stuff and they go for danzig to imply otherwise does nothing more than single how out of touch he is but even if you want to overlook the countless bands toiling away in basements and house shows it's super spreader events at tompkins square park these days these events these days to focus solely on the past punk has always been a scene that self-polices and i go i think that's probably the the boiling point of what you know people are against that are against this stuff is like yeah they're against the idea of just everyone constantly uh you know controlling people through you know self-policing it's like the guy you know you could talk about in a relationship like a guy that just constantly policing is you know where it's funny didn't punk kind of start off as like there's

like no rules at all like isn't that kind of original yeah i mean they all sort of have the rules like look at right now and if you took it like let's say that the fucking you know woke shit got out of control right and then you have um the other way where it's like there's this other thing and you go ah this stuff's crazy and then you also see the internet starting to make rules about like if you're against woke stuff like you have to think this well why don't you like even the the original thing fucking self-polices and then the thing that's railing against that like self-polices and then there'll be a new thing like every fucking thing ultimately self-polices but some of them do it to the point where most creative

thinkers leave and i think that's where that you can see it in countries you can see it in companies yeah i mean the amount of people who fucking like with you know what you're saying with the woke stuff where they're like you have to be like this and then they're like i don't want to be like that and then they just ended up with a maga hat on you're like so you weren't that either though you're like you weren't that and you're like they just couldn't like understand that there could be somewhere like not one of these two because then you're constantly fighting some battle right and you don't have and they do yeah exactly they were like i need to be fighting always and so i guess i gotta pick a side yeah and you were like three months ago ago, you were like a Bernie bro.

Yeah, you're a Bernie bro. Now you're wearing a MAGA hat. And you're like, how'd that happen? They're like, well, I'm just, I don't like the woke left. And you're like, okay, well, this wasn't the only alternative is putting this hat on. Yeah, you don't have. Yeah. So I think that.

But that happened a lot. And then once you get the hat on, they say, well, if you like Trump, then you have to do this. Yeah, exactly. But everything. It's like, it's so, it's so, I mean, you do your, yeah, you do your chicky. Well, if you want to be my boyfriend, or if you want to be my girlfriend, if you want

to be my girlfriend, Ryan's girlfriends do this. So if you'd like to be like that, to be your identity. Yeah, exactly. If you're a girlfriend of Ryan's. I mean, if you don't want that title, that's fine. But if you're looking for the title of Ryan's girlfriend, there's like a list of things that traditionally they do. I mean, if you don't want to be that, you don't have to call yourself that. That's up to you.

But if you do want to call yourself that, it's a pretty tight schedule. You get up at 5.45 every day and get to work. And then leave. Get to your chores. It's a pretty tight schedule. You get up at 5.45 every morning and leave. Back to your house. Don't disturb me.

It's pretty tough being Maya, I think. You get up really early, you call yourself a cab, go home. But they all evolve. And it goes back to the thing with the companies too, and countries where the people left in it, the people left in movements were a lot of times not the people that created it. You know what I mean?

And there were some like okay so to go through once the you know what there was a rebellious spirit or whatever but honestly i've always said that that subculture was a little more of a movement that was unified whereas rock and roll was more about free thinking and not about free thinking but more in the way that like there was a little more even if you take a guy like Marilyn Manson or something I feel like he was fairly um intellectual in a way that wasn't you know part of a movement and there obviously is like pits of rock and roll and punk and all this stuff but this is what Alice Cooper said and I thought it was interesting he said when musicians are telling people who to vote for I think that's an abuse of power you're telling your fans not to think for themselves and just to think like you and rock and roll should be about

freedom and that's not freedom yeah i agree so these people are all sort of arguing about what these words mean and so he's like he's right that what he did couldn't have been called punk but it would just be something else it would be something he would hate those people like all those things are like you know you can't have rock and roll without elvis you can't have elvis without whatever blues you know it's like everybody is like a chain in the link and if they didn't exist like the i don't know it would just it would be different or someone would have taken that spot someone else would have taken that spot i mean if you look at metal there's a ton of bands that are fucking you know saying the most heinous shit still i mean look at fucking hip-hop it started as they're like a doobie doobie doobie doobie like you know it started as like the

lamest shit it's like and we are friends and we play around and now it's like you know fuck fuck your bitch you know and then it's like fucking rob a house and then it's like rob a house and uh fuck someone's girlfriend cheat on my girlfriend doing some coke yeah it's like and it's like takashi and stuff. Yeah, so they said, what it should be about is providing a welcoming space for members of marginalized communities. And there's entire sub-genres like Queer Corps, which you said you're like that.

I'm big into Queer Corps. He's a big into Queer Corps. And Riot Grrrl, whose entire ethos would probably be described as woke by guys like Danzig. So they're saying that fucking Danzig would probably think that even queer core is woke but yeah it's like don't even get me started on queer core don't get dancing started on the those queer core you got all you got a minute so but you go yeah i mean it became something else and you guys sort of operate in that space and i've you know i've

been involved in that world my whole life and there's but that's why i said i go you forget how many people like especially touring in music more so music than comedy or anything else i've experienced do you know how many fucking singers think their fans are fucking losers like so many bands i've toured with that like they do the signings and everything and they're like oh right yeah they're like we don't have yeah and a lot of times they are you know what I mean because like

they created some movement and then they hate what it became right if that makes sense yeah for sure you're like I didn't get into this

like especially when they start taking on causes and you're like you don't care about any of that stuff yeah imagine and then you're being forced by your fans being like

why would you take a position on this matter exactly and you're like I don't care I never did and you go we care now and we're your fans yeah and you go like, I don't care. I never did. And you go, we care now.

And we're your fans. Yeah. Okay. Well, I think I'm out. You know, imagine insane clown posse. If you didn't like,

if you weren't just about making money and you went to the juggalo March, you go, what are we, what did we do? What the fuck did we create? Yeah, exactly. Like they have to really be into,

do you think that? Yeah, I don't think they do, but like someone like that, you think like they're like the, I would be so funny if like backstage they just pull up their paint they're drinking pepsi yeah these fucking like they don't even drink fango backstage yeah so they said dead kennedy's released the song nazi punks fuck off but i mean they were

talking about nazi real nazis not danny you know and and yes the sex pistols were in the sex pistols were probably getting away with wearing swastikas for shock value but they caught heat from their peers from it back then well you know

not the heat that they would have caught now that's for fucking damn sure it's like a little write up in like a like magazine or something yeah I mean

so I go with these people I go why wouldn't it's like no one wants to like Danzig should just be like yeah that punk you're right that became a different thing but I wouldn't have been that but these guys it's like why won't they give up like

we're actually still the same punks as before yeah it's like no they've turned into something different fine whatever what's wrong with that yeah just admit that be like yeah we we don't agree with old punks as much like dan we're this new thing and we owe we own the patent on the world word and you go fine at least it's a more honest argument. Music is a young man's game, anyway, so it's like, you know, whoever's the young people kind of in that movement, they get to determine it, just like you got to.

So the idea that Misfits would have been cancelled if they released Last Caress today also falsely assumed that music fans are incapable of reading a song's intent. Danzig's lyrics have also been goofy and over the top, and he admits that Last Caress was just an attempt at shock i mean yeah let's let's like a literally like a shock horror band yeah but i go uh yeah let's let's uh throw a new band's rape lyrics out there to like a bunch of pc punks and then go see if they no but it's intense

you go come you go come on look me in the, and you think those people would like a song about rape, and I'll show you why they wouldn't. But it's the same thing. I go, even when they're thinking, I go, what's a big punk band? Remember when there was some big punk bands that were really huge? Name me one.

What's the biggest punk band right now that's not 20 years old? No idea. Okay, exactly. Because it became a little subset of a culture the same way jazz is. There's huge jazz people. Not now.

Maybe there's some big one if you follow that. Same as anything. I mean, everything has its, you know, it has its moment. Yeah. And once the moment's over, all of the innovators leave, just like an industry, just like anything. Yeah, for sure. And then it's left with the hall monitors. Yeah.

Yeah. Totally. Yeah. It's just like the real diehards who have become this kind of monolithic. I think so. Yeah. So Danzig's comments just hammer home that he's completely disengaged with the punk scene. Yeah, he is definitely completely disengaged with it.

And he would have just been something else. So this is just a quick article I'm going to show. But this is the same people. And this is an article that came out a month ago. And I actually noticed it. And I just thought it related to this. They said, here's why people are mad at this viral pop punk band, the Tramp Stamps. So first of all, this band sucks balls.

It's some girl band. But this is just to relate to that comment where they go, I think the fans would understand that he's just... So this is what they said. This is the Tramp Stamps about Glenn Denzer? But this is why everyone's... The Tramp Stamps got canceled. They were like growing up, and they got canceled, and they wrote an article about canceling them or whatever and then but i'm just like saying a chick a group of chick

group of chicks got canceled this nashville trio was accused of everything from being industry plants racism co-opting feminism for pr and working with dr. Luke. Remember when we had the Tinder profiles, Dr. Luke, Bill Cosby, and Django Meshie? There you go. The internet backlash for the past few weeks to their latest single, I Would Rather Die, is so severe. And these guys are pretty in the doghouse right now, too. And these are trash. They just, everything they post gets, like, quote, you know, ratioed on Twitter from everyone

yelling at them. I'd Rather Die is so severe, it eclipses whatever positive momentum the group had previously had. The controversy has everything. Allegations of the Tramp Stamps being industry plants. Allegations of problematic lyrics. They promote rape culture. Rumors the band is affiliated with controversial producer,

Dr. Luke. So rumors that he might- Just a rumor of affiliation. Let me just tell you what their song's called. Their main song that they got popular, it goes, I'd Rather Die than hook up with another straight white guy i was gonna say because you're like i relate to that though because i'd rather

die i mean also a straight white guy but just in any guy um that was because you were saying earlier like oh you could never like do a song about rape and like i'm like you could if it was a chick raping a guy no well my Well, my friend, my friend, my friend. Do I have the next sentence for you? There we go. But before that, they're kind of saying that, you know, the first thing they said, their industry planned. And you go, yeah, you're right. Like this movement, everyone can see that the only thing that people in this movement like is, you know, say the straight white guys suck or whatever.

So then they do it and they go, but do they really mean that? Do they really hate straight white guys? Wait, your boss is the straight white guys suck or whatever so then they do it and they go but do they really mean that do they really hate straight white guys wait your boss is a straight white guy what's going on here they have suspicions that they don't hate i love the industry plant industry so funny because you're like pop punk and history well also you're like wait are you just realizing that like music's a business sometimes they do that stuff yeah that's funny too but also it's that everyone always accuses everyone of being an industry plant anytime any like edgy guy on the internet it's not like the the slightest bit not based they're like he's working with massad right of course um but they go i don't know how you think we're gonna fuck this is a lyric when you can't get it up there's a song written for you i'm sick of hearing it's the alcohol, which is soon followed up by,

I'm just saying it's not fair to leave me hanging like this. And, uh, the quote that the thing that went viral against them, it's not a hot girl boss move or a punk move to sing about pressuring people to have sex with you when they don't want to, or they were unable to consent because they're on alcohol on alcohol. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So basically if a girl says, you know, fucking that shit, you get it up. You go, are you fucking chill? Cosby?

Yeah. Chill Cosby. So basically I can't right now, but I go, that's the thing I go. So she's saying all this fucking, and then they go and you know, it's the same kind of people that will say,

no, the people can tell the difference. And you go, they, okay. What am I? I mean, the only thing I would say is at least they're consistent because they would have been blamed as being inconsistent and like picking and choosing at one point. Well, their whole life is picking their opinions. That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying, but at least they're applying it equally.

It's just, it's so ludicrous to apply it equally this way right but the like at least like you know because a lot of times the conservatives are like oh well they could say this we can't say this and then blah blah at least they're they're applying it consistently it just like makes them look even dumber when they do that is yeah is one even better it's not it's not it's like it's just yeah they look at it and they go okay what's what's the thing we think here yeah what's the right what's the, yeah, they look at it and they go, okay, what's the thing we think here? Yeah. What's the right, what's the proper take? And then they put it out there and someone gets in trouble and they go, okay, we don't do that one. Right, right, right.

Okay, so when a guy's drunk, we don't have sex. So no drunk people should have sex now. No. No drunk sex. No drunk sex. So no sex, basically. Basically no sex. Correct.

But Alex Byron sent me this and it was an article specifically geared towards you. So this is men's health. Do you ever follow men's health? I don't. Okay. but Alex Byron sent me this and it was an article specifically geared towards you. Um, so this is men's health. Do you ever follow men's health? I don't. Okay. So this is just a, if just what men's health is up to.

Yeah. I thought it was very, they're doing some really important work. So men's health, it says, so you're feeling a little bi curious. We're here to help. And it's a guide to how to get like to,

you know, um, gay. Yeah. we're here to help and it's a guide to how to get like to you know gay yeah a guide to how to transition into gay from just thinking about it like you do just being bi curious that's pretty but they just that's so funny because it's like just the fact that it's men's health like you literally it's like okay here's a 10 trice workouts. Here's how to be gay. It's so funny because, like, you know, it's kind of, there are these monthly magazines, and they're like, there's just not enough stuff to put in. So someone's like, well, what about an article about it? Do you think it's that simple, or do you think that they're, you know,

someone that the thing is like, hey, we got to, you know, get on this track. We got to make these people gay. Maybe. No, I don't think they can. I mean, a lot of the meatheads who, I see this thing, I don't know who reads Men's Health anymore, because, like, real meatheads at the gym, they don't train. We got to make these people gay. Uh, maybe. No, I don't think they can. I mean, a lot of the meatheads who I see, that's the thing. I don't know who reads men's health anymore. Cause like real meatheads at the gym,

they don't read. What do they read? They're all on forums. My dad used to read men's health. Yeah. Like a while ago, but now they're just all on like forums and stuff and online. It's like,

they would never read that. So this is a last ditch effort from these magazines. This is the death rattle. This is the death. You're witnessing the death rattle of it's a, I mean, it's a magazine. It really is. How many magazines do you ever buy? I'm sure they have online as well and all that stuff, but you'reattle. This is the death rattle. You're witnessing the death rattle of, it's a, I mean, it's a magazine. It really is.

How many magazines do you ever buy? Well, I'm sure they have online as well and all that stuff, but you're right. It is. It is the last ditch effort of a magazine being like, uh, okay.

With the tricep thing bomb. Yeah. The supplement article bombed. It's like, okay, I've got a fucking radical idea here. Well, providing workout advice is,

is like before it actually used to be valuable. Now they, they do a little thing. There's like a million things online like a million things online or the guy that wrote this article was playing hooky at work and then his boss got mad because he wasn't there for a week walked in on him sucking a dick and he had to assure him i'm doing research this is for the article and he had to write the article because otherwise he was gonna get in trouble so after years of wondering if i could be an intimate with another man i decided to hook up with a dude my freshman year of college sick i had a i had a buddy that was actually in a band and one time uh when we were on tour he he he

everyone was like drinking and he was like yeah obviously you know it's one thing it's like hooking up with a guy in college like you does that. And all of us were like, excuse me? And none of us ever let him hear the end of it. It's such a thing people talk about. This guy's the straightest guy. He had a kid and stuff. And then he was like... I guess he obviously knew this wasn't going to go over,

but he wanted to slip it in like that. If he just said, hey, I came out of the closet and whatever but he was like you know i'm just fucking dude shit hooking up with a dude in college and everyone's like i'm big excuse me so after the experience i could not tell you if i was gay or bi want to solve that riddle for him i don't know yeah nobody said after he hooked up with the dude, did you like it? You know, he wasn't sure.

How much did you like it? How much cum was on your face? That's a good idea. He said, the thing is I went about hooking up with the guy all wrong. I had expectations of what I should feel. Still struggled with internalized homophobia. Well,

you do it. You said you got rid of it, but like you do like, like quitting smoking. I just won't. No, no, I just fucking, you just fucking pulled back. It was like you do like like quitting smoking i just won't no no i just fuck you just fucking pulled back it was like it was like when your parents make you smoke the whole cart and i was the cart man danny just fucked a full bath and got it out of his system

that that did him in for another month you ever think that's ever happened where a parent catches a kid being gay and then they're like oh you're gay huh you want to be gay huh well i'll show you gay and take him to a bathhouse and like that's the old rouse joke he goes my dad caught me smoking so he brought us uh jason rouse he brought us backstage and uh made us suck his cock backyard he goes so it's funny because his his i'm not gonna do too much of this article but basically that he says he gives a list of what you have to do but it's it's so just like it's one start with porn so you go start with gay porn two move to the apps and chat rooms like there's and then three have a maybe try a bisexual male male female threesome first so they say the whole art it's just like tips on how to easier way to be gay anyone could have you know yeah it's like obviously pretty logical like yeah it's like it's like tips on swimming put your foot in touch the water put your foot in splash them on your

face but he goes have a bisexual male male female threesome well going back to straight again because there's nothing's fucking gay about that it's if anything you're more straight now yeah it's a two fucking bros gone too far two bros chilling giving each other props although um uh i i i knew this chick and she said she just said with two guys and they were all drama kids all of them were like in a play together and they were in this play and they lived in a hotel together in a play okay and the two guys were bisexual and it was and i was like that was the first time i ever was like that is a scenario where like, because usually it's like two dudes double teaming a chick.

Yeah. But that is a scenario where I was like, oh, yeah, I don't know who the dominant was in this scenario. Yeah. It's like it might have been the girl. It was like, it was like band camp shit. Right. Yeah.

It had a different, it had a different vibe to it. That's for sure. Um, those drama kids. And she goes now with the help of two sexuality experts, I'm going to impart what I wish I had knew before I'd done. Oh, that's for sure um those drama kids and she goes now with the help of two sexuality experts i'm going to impart what i wish i knew before i'd done oh that's why i said it but yeah so he goes and then he goes because we live in a culture that has negative perspectives on bisexuality and same-sex attraction it's important to gain exposure to alternative perspectives danny gave exposure in the fucking but it's it it's not that people have a fucking problem with anyone that's bisexual.

It's just when you're a guy that's bisexual, everyone suspects that you're actually gay. And when you're a girl that's bisexual, everyone suspects you're actually straight. Yes. And a lot of the times that's correct. Yes. So it's like, it's not that people are like, ew, a bi. It's more the case that it's correct, for sure. Yeah.

So it's not that people go, oh, disgusting, you're a bisexual. I mean, some people probably do, but I'm saying, you know, whatever. Your average person probably doesn't give a shit. No, they don't. They definitely don't give a shit more than being gay or anything. They just suspect that you're not. Yeah, they go, exactly. They're like, you're trying to ease everybody into this.

And that's happened a thousand times. We don't care anymore. So I thought, oh, but but yeah so men's health is that would be actually the worst if you had like a kid and he came out as bi and you're like okay yeah you would be like you're gay you'd be like nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with it but just yeah it's just let me sure that's happened a million times then they come out yeah but a girl like if you're yeah your daughter came out as bi and then oh that's the one all right i'll talk to you when you come ask me to pay for your wedding to a man yeah like it's especially if that's like uh this you're kind of on the pulse of things like this

year last year like a 20 year old daughter comes out as bi and you go by pride so funny that's what i put in that sketch it's like do you want to be one of those people celebrating by pride you got to go full gay if you want the benefits i think what the problem with the when people say that there's like biphobia a lot of it is that they're not getting well yeah but yes for sure that's what we're saying but the reason why it bothers them is because they're not getting their full benefit package of being under under like like they're people kind of go oh whatever you go you know you don't get it it's hard for me i had to come out of the closet and everyone's like it wasn't hard for you and they go i'm a victim yeah exactly so they're not getting their

full benefit margin package of being marginalized that i agree with 100 uh so uh just uh like and i i saw another tweet uh a couple tweets that went viral that related to this that to prove my point i saw this was so funny so there's a article and there's this thing called pink news, right? Oh yeah. I'm a well aware of pink. Yeah. And they had these tweets and it's lesbians who love Dick.

And the person said, hi, I'm a lesbian and I love Dick. And there's nothing wrong with that. Centering lesbian around pussy is so fucking othering to trans and non binary lesbians. Jesus fucking Christ. They're always really revved up.

And there's always 10 comments. Say it again for the people in the back. Right. all the clap the clap like that one word clap one word clap like they all sort of appropriated like black church lady like you said it you said it's this preach yeah it's preach they told the versions of preaching they got the snake out and then yeah and then the second one goes agreed i love I love dick, and I'm a lesbian. I just don't like when that dick is attached to a cis man. But girl dick and non-binary dick is totally fine. I love non-binary dick.

Have you seen all the Caitlyn Jenner stuff? Yeah, let's talk about that. That dick is totally fine, and I don't think that makes me less of a lesbian. Yeah, I personally love the Caitlyn Jenner stuff because it just fucking puts everyone in such a tizzy. Oh, it puts them in the fucking spin cycle. Puts them in the spin cycle. Oh, yeah.

You've probably seen a thousand of the back-to-back tweets the same way that they do with everything that they change their opinion on opinion on you know the immigration or the kids in cages or whatever but it's literally like caitlin jenner is the bravest smartest the most brilliant mind of our generation and then the next one's like she's a fucking bitch yeah she's a fucking bitch stupid bitch she really is a fucking straight white woman huh like that's how they have to approach it. Yeah. But I've, I just like those because they're just, yeah, like the intersectional. Yeah, exactly. Like the sports one was great because she comes out and she says, yeah, biological men should not be able to compete with women. And this is coming from one of the greatest biological male athletes of all time, who is now a woman.

Yeah. biological male athletes of all time who's now a woman yeah it must like so it's like if anybody has a fucking point to make about this like you'd think he's the only uh trans athlete that maybe could have made it work she's the only trans athlete that maybe could have made it work what are you talking about if if caitlin jenner was 20 was bruce when he was 25 i'm a woman now i'm going to go compete be like currently hold world records in every single one of those things

yeah I was doing it the other way around yeah yeah yeah it's like of course yeah that's my hot tip he'd probably be able to compete in the women's category

he'd probably be okay he'd do alright decathlon winner he'd do alright yeah but there's but it's like he's like a Trump loving conservative I'm for no gendered

categories period i think that's the only solution i think that's what everyone should move towards and never hear about this conversation again gender categories are gone end of story moving on and then they have to play defense where we're like we want our own league we're like we tried this it was yeah we tried this it was super transphobic yeah we're done with all that stuff so yeah that's the thing too you want it's all it's been said but watching people who are like have to kind of navigate the whole like yeah you know they belong in sports you're like but yeah but the logical conclusion is this is gonna hurt women like sports overall so there are some good things about it yeah yeah i mean there's that's one of

those things where it's it's it's almost like obvious and you go, OK, go argue about it or whatever. I guess you can say that if you're like someone that has a daughter or whatever. Yeah, it's people who have a daughter. Like imagine you have a daughter who plays like softball or like track and that's her whole life. And your whole life is fucking schlepping around for these meets and everything and costing you like 50 grand a year. And then all of a sudden, just like some kid who used to be a guy shows up and just destroys your daughter. She can't get a scholarship. She just lost her scholarship now because

that one spot went to that part. And you're like, of course you're upset about it. This is one where I don't know a single fucking like dude that honestly would argue that yeah, this is a good idea. I mean, my position on it is i'm like

i didn't care about women's sports before you're not gonna get me to start caring now yeah yeah you can fucking do whatever but that's what i mean i go you leave the male sports alone and i'm fine with it but that that's what i mean so many people could have yeah so many people could have intellectual debates about this and you know and go well actually they and you could have you know all day long you could have hour-long debates on news stations and whatever. You could have an hour-long debate on the Daily Wire. None of that does probably as much for fucking stopping this as this Caitlyn Jenner business.

Of course. Well, if there was one player, one marginal player on the PGA Tour right now who decided that they were going to go trans and become a female golfer, they would be Tiger Woods tomorrow. Someone needs to do that. Tomorrow. Pull a Zuby and do it.

But not even, I'm not even saying as a guy. Why don't they? Why hasn't anyone done it yet? I'm not saying, well because I don't think there is that many trans people.

Also people would be really mad at you. No, no, no. I'm not talking about If they found out you're a ho. Oh, if you find out like if it's a ladybug scenario. Yeah, that wouldn't work.

That's such a crazy movie I remember like seeing that on TV like three years ago when I was in Toronto I was like holy shit yeah so they basically make

the people go girl so it's Rodney Dangerfield is the coach of a girls soccer team and then he's trying to like

bang some chick and gets his grandson to be to dress up as a girl to play on the team and like win. But all the like, I think fuck some chick. Yeah. That's the whole premise.

You're like, it's a kid's movie. It's a total kid's movie with Ronnie Dangerfield, like notorious pussy hound. And then like all these people were like, I think recently too came out and they said like working on it was like crazy. He would just have like chicks going in his trailer all the time. Come on.

Oh yeah. He's a crazy pussy hound. He's a looking guy yeah to fuck oh yeah but he was he was getting it in there when he was like 70 wow oh yeah yeah he got he got it late in life so he went full oh he went full the guys i find that the the people that get popular late in life they become the most pussy hounds where they're just on tour. Like every night they're trying to, because they didn't make it, making it,

making up, making up for lost time. Well, he says other things when you're going through your becoming gay journey, Danny, he says, realize that you might not have a aha moment. Cause he,

he was more like a moment because he said he was making out with his guy or whatever, and he thought it was going to be like... But he didn't experience that. But I like the idea. Realize you might not have an aha moment. Like, you know, when you know you're gay. Like, for example, doing makeup tutorials might be an aha moment. When you laugh at girls' stories.

Imagine you're like just a normal meat and potatoes gay guy and then you're making out with this dude who's like, can't figure it out. And he goes, I'm gay. And you go, yeah, okay. I'm gay.

And you go, I'm pretty sure. I was hoping you are. Yeah, I figured when you... Figured you were. When you took your clothes off. It's a pretty gay thing we're doing right now. Yeah, we're doing all gay things.

He goes, I know I'm gay. I'm gay. I'm gay. I don't care all the games i know i'm gay i'm gay i'm gay i don't care who knows it i'm gay i'm gay i'm gay i don't care who knows it um yeah and it's in new york city and then someone's like shut the fuck up yeah yeah watching rupaul's drag race that would be a good aha moment yeah dick in your butt perhaps yeah oh yeah you're lying on the bed you're still not sure if you're gay and then it goes oh he says talk to a therapist that's another thing he recommends so he goes go to the gay bars talk to a therapist yeah i don't think yeah that might do it i feel like i want to blow guys i mean therapists are so fucking useless dude i really So he goes, go to the gay bars, talk to a therapist. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, that might be what we do.

I feel like I want to blow guys. I mean, therapists are so fucking useless, dude. I really honestly don't recommend talking to a therapist. Literally, my girlfriend's a therapist. Well, that's just because you're Jewish and you didn't want to spend the money. So you figured the ultimate life hack. No, I don't know. No.

No, I'm saying for her clients. I don't get high on my. Dude, her clients, she literally. She don't get high on your own supply? No. But she's like, yeah, they pay me to talk to them I think it's better for girls but that's my fear she has male clients too

I've I think well you maybe you tell me you're wrong and this is obviously touching a nerve because it's personal I think for dudes

no I think it's that should be an option down the line I think that for fucking dudes reading listening to Tim Ferriss for a year will probably do more

for fucking getting your life together than therapy ever for a year will probably do more for fucking getting your life together yeah but people a lot of people have different things like some people like straight up you know they like we are we know a comic because i got raped as you were a kid it's like tim ferris probably not helping you out yeah but that's not what most people go to no no most people are like i'm sad i'm sad i'm not good and my relationships keep failing yeah most people are like i got drunk again last night. Well, you know, party till 5am and I quit my job again. And yeah,

they just, they just need like a mom. They need like another pair. They just didn't. So, okay. I'm not saying never go, but I'm saying it's more,

it's better for girls. Cause they pay their ear off. And most people that need therapy just need to get their fucking life together. Yeah, for sure. I mean, they just need to Jordan. I have an idea for a sketch that, um, like normal shit that like you know most guys fucking probably

listen to rogan but like the idea of a girl coming back to the house and then being like yeah it's just crazy i was uh i'm so glad to meet a normal guy i mean last week uh how guys lie to get girls you know i went to one of this guy and he was saying he listens to joe rogan and it's like and the guy's like what like the fear factor guy yeah i know and i'm like what does he have like a podcast now or something and then he's pushing the alpha brain off yeah yeah yeah and he is like fucking you know since he likes this jordan peterson guy she's like is that a crossbow he goes oh what that yeah he unmakes he unmakes his bed

yeah he's unmakes his bed he takes down like a barstool flag while the girl's watching undo all this stuff yeah yeah and it just gets like progressively more like

she's saying more more ridiculous he like opens the fridge it's all white claws he's like white wine yeah so fucking

I thought that would be kind of a funny thing but and he says you can try it and not like it and you're not straight well we always had that song with the johnstones uh it was a secret song you're not gay till you slept with 10 guys now we're at eight still got that freebie do you see the all-gay navy crew no so they basically had a all-gay navy crew and like in the literal Navy.

Yeah. But they had the 10 of them with a pitcher, and they're all wearing rainbow stuff or whatever. Isn't that the whole thing? Go back to the George Bush era where people were saying they don't want gays in the Army. It's going to be something. And then show them the photo of 10 guys.

Be like, blow their gas. Well, the crazy thing is, originally it was like the don't ask, don't tell. First, they were like, we need to know if you're gay and then they're like we just don't want to know and now they're like we're gay i think it'd be funny though i guess it's how much if you were part of isis and you were getting raided by these guys and they were killing you how much would you hate it if they were like flamboyantly gay but that's the thing if anything if anything for america that's a bit of a flex you go watch out fucking is, fucking ISIS. You guys still fuck around.

Not only are we going to come kill your ass, but we're going to get the gayest fucking group to kill your ass. The gayest group is going to fucking infiltrate. Yeah, we're going to fucking put you down. A couple more things. But before that, I do want to remind you that it is Sheath Underwear Week at Ryan Long Comedy. And if you guys don't know, we did the two videos this week with them but

it was the pouch for the balls and the underwear yeah and the guy who does sheath and i don't think i ended up putting this in videos but for anyone who doesn't know he he actually was in the army and then he came back and he started a gay brothel then that didn't work out yeah and then he basically started this underwear company but he said sorry is the gay brothel thing for real no no okay i was like the way you said it i was like you didn't really crack it i was like i don't know him he but he he's like there was only a few like i mean if you watch podcasts you probably see a you know sponsors pop up or whatever but there's very there's a few i've talked to a lot of people and about doing stuff and then they'll go okay could you not touch this topic you not do not do this? And you go,

and you, most of the time you kind of just think it's not a good relationship because you go, well, moving forward, I'm not going to be doing this. And especially if you're doing weekly things,

it's impossible to get approval. It's just not going to work. Like maybe I have a video that is nothing or whatever or not, or not offensive. And then you go, okay,

what about this? You know what I mean? Exactly. You just don't want, but you don't want to be in that deep where you don't want to be working with anyone who's like iffy about you anyway, you go, okay, what about this? You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. You just don't want too many cuts. But you don't want to be in that, you don't want to be working with anyone who's like iffy about you anyway. You want someone like this guy,

you know, this guy or some other people that I work with, but he basically says, he sponsors like all the bad people and he says he gets all these complaints about people. He tells them to fuck off basically. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, so my point is, Do you have any samples yet?

Yeah, I got samples. And the other thing that I like about these kind of products is that for a lot of things, it's very specific and people don't need it. Whereas for underwear, certain things you go, you're going to buy it anyway. And it's a pain in the ass sometimes to go get. Right, so if you're going to buy it anyway, why not just buy use my fucking promo code i have a question for you how many pairs of underwear do you have that have been like relegated into like the orphan section of your underwear drawer that you just like like you actually section of the underwear that i took off an orphan you know like do you have underwear

where you're like i have it i don't wear it so yesterday i had a pair of underwear i was wearing and i walked into the fucking room. My chick was there and she goes, are you fucking kidding me? And there was a hole the size of a fucking softball at the bottom of the underwear. She goes, your fucking ass is hanging out. Yeah. I go, your ass is hanging out. You're trying to do something sexy.

It's actually fucking lingerie. These were $85. Yeah, I tried to do something sexy for you. She's like, what were you doing today? Nothing. Nothing. But yeah, no, I wreck a lot of underwear. Socks is more, because I have...

But I'm saying, I have so many socks where I'm just like, I have them, but they don't get any play. No, you got to throw those out eventually. I've moved enough times in the last two years that a lot of that stuff kicked the bucket. Yeah. I mean, when I moved to America, I threw out literally three quarters of all my possessions. Yeah, that's because you got too fat for them. Sheathunderwear.com.

Promo code Ryan Long. Support the sponsors. So just a couple quick more things. Moving on is... So the Trump doing weddings thing. I saw this video and I've seen uh i mean you've probably seen them too or whatever right but and a lot of people think it's sick and i've we've talked about this before the idea that if you are at mar-a-lago and trump shows up it's you know

probably the coolest thing yeah that's what you're hoping that's what you're hoping for but i i saw a video of one and it will it really doesn't look like that it looks fucking like led zeppelin playing a bar mitzvah energy oh like i felt it feels like he shouldn't be doing this i know that because they're filming and they put it online and to everyone else and i i kind of you're saying it looks lame when you watch it looks It looks so lame. Oh, of course. Dude, it's literally the president just kicked off all of social media in a fucking basement being like,

and in Nebraska they might have some extra votes coming. It's on like an Instagram live. Someone's like Instagram story. He was saying that, he goes, and they're still looking for votes as we speak

and there might be some votes in Nebraska and blah, blah. And like someone's got to be like, hey, this isn't a good look. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? I mean, he's coming back.

I know, but it's legitimately the guy that was like the star of the NHL playing in the minor leagues being like, next year is the year. Yeah, he's at like a House League tour. He's at like a House League Awards banquet. It had that look. I just thought it was really funny that he was actually talking about that he might sign some votes. And maybe it was even out of context. Maybe he's joking. But he should stop doing those. It makes it look I just thought it was really funny That he was actually talking about And maybe it was even out of context Maybe he's joking

But he should stop doing those It makes it look so lame Maybe it's a financial thing I told you yesterday Someone from this Rogers Fortune Was in all this shit She gave two million dollars to Ryerson

And all these people were like I'm embarrassed that I go to Ryerson and that I'm an alum because this woman was seen with a photo with Trump, and everybody's like, she's a racist. That's the thing. If you take a photo with Donald Trump, there is a large amount of people who are like,

you are a racist. These people are out of their fucking dreams. Crazy. Well, they'll go online to openly blast you for being a racist, for just being in a photo with him. Yeah're out of their fucking crazy hands well that's uh that's the that's that's the world we're living in folks with the fucking live dirt but um the one thing that uh to relate to our you know therapy conversation yeah and this is one last

thing we'll talk about. In 2020, Pew research study reveals that over half of white liberal women have been diagnosed with a mental health condition at some point. Does this mean there's a correlation between progressive ideas and mental health? So they, uh, wasn't that Milo's thing?

Liberalism is a mental disease. I know this is feminism, but they, so they did, uh, they did this big study and they found, and there's been a view of these, but basically

that 40% of liberal women are like clinically depressed. Okay. What about 40% of just women? So women are more depressed than men. Yeah. But, or at least according to this study,

but the black women aren't as depressed. Interesting. Well, a lot of it boils down to... I mean, there's probably so many factors, right? They have it so good so it's easier to get depressed kind of thing.

Like they have less of a reference point of anything bad. Well, I think there's probably so many factors that you can't boil it down. So that's what I wanted to discuss. But I would say that, for one, people that are busier and have more shit to do are less depressed you know that idea where black people always say like depressions like white people shit like we have stuff to do

or whatever you know we have to work yeah so if you're if you're let's say a chick living in new york that's white and you work 20 hours and your parents pay for your things you have more time to like be depressed absolutely and then on top of that so the activism that they're doing like if you're essentially like a super progressive activist yelling at someone all of their activism is unachievable right you know so their their goal is so broad that it's unachievable so they're never achieving anything that they're trying to achieve so they're constantly like on a wheel and they're in this negative headspace where everything is negative including them but like nothing that's going on.

Like there's no positives in the world. Only negatives. There's only negatives. So that's got to be a negative thing. The more you make yourself a victim, that's like a proven way to. Like they're literally like you live in the greatest country in the world. In their mind, they're like, I live in the worst country in the world. I live in the fucking.

Literally, literally the worst country in the world. Yeah. If you ask these people and they're like. It's yeah, they'll go. And if you ask these people and they're like, it's yeah, they'll go. And if you're dedicated to bringing other people down, that's a thing that if you're, if your life is dedicated to like,

uh, getting other people in trouble, that's a thing that probably makes you depressed. Oh yeah. Yeah. And, uh, and that's why all cops are depressed.

And most things, and most people that, uh, and most people that, uh, most things that make their life, their life better, like even having fun, joking around, you know, certain events, certain TV shows, they hate them all. Yeah. So things that enrich your life, they probably have a problem with that. Well, you have to watch it with this, like, you have to watch everything with such a cynical, probably eye.

So yeah, I don't think it's a surprise by any means. But you know what you don't have to watch with a cynical eye chad the ultimate chad's not offending anybody my police except for i'm gonna do it people who like comedy is uh the racist grammar police yeah but it's like all the police are normal except for this one guy that's like it's a hard er and they go this guy yeah we talked about yeah yeah okay but the um they said it's a hard ER. And they go, this guy. Yeah, we talked about it on the last podcast. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But they said it's a common tactic that politically charged on either side and normally perceived as cheap and normally perceived as a cheap one at that to take a particular adherence of an ideology that equates to diehard worship to mental illness. Okay.

So that's the Milo thing you just said. That was a complicated sentence that I barely could read. I need the grammar. Well, this is all the conservatives are like, liberalism is to mental illness. Okay, so that's the Milo thing you just said. That was a complicated sentence that I barely could read. I need the grammar. Well, all the conservatives are like, liberalism is a mental disease. And then scientists actually are like, hey, so it turns out. Well, yeah.

And then they said, women are 40% more likely to develop depression than men due to lower levels of serotonin, but they don't act on it, right? They don't have the guts to finish the job on themselves. Due to lower levels of serotonin. Not like men do. We're also more likely to have anxiety and depression

because of the deficiency. So there's also two parts to this, right? Okay, so we know people in the Toronto scene or in the New York scene who's, or whatever, in your normal, they're everywhere. Yeah. People are everywhere. People are everywhere.

That are super into this stuff and they're super depressed. And there's got to be a bit of a chicken and egg thing too that probably this isn't taking into account. Where you go, is there that many people that are super depressed that go the other way? Like if you are fucking like ultimate depressed, like hate yourself, like everything, you probably end up you know uh

doing the social justice yeah it's because it's the you're constantly aggrieved it's like you're aggrieved with life because you're depressed right so it's a good place that is a good place for you so you go are are fucking progressive people depressed or depressed people you know end up fucking super yeah that's a tough one i think there's a bit of both i think people are progressive and i think the progressivism maybe makes them depressed i think it's a bit of and it's a tough one i think there's a bit of both i think people are progressive and i think the progressivism maybe makes them depressed i think it's a bit of and it's a cycle and there's probably lots in here yeah so there's probably and then on top of that they're already girls so they're already depressed because they don't even have a fucking dick yeah i'd be depressed

too yeah i mean listen if i woke up tomorrow and have a dick i'd be like i'd be depressed too i get it yeah there'd be a fucking cloud, dark cloud hanging over you. If you don't have a dick, it's hard to be, it's hard to really get going. Hard to get going in the morning. We don't even have a fucking cock on you. Conditions like depression and anxiety thrive in silence, but there also seem to be a lack of confidence in women when it comes to knowing our own bodies. And instead our mental problems are written off by being too emotionally uh to be too overly emotional yeah this article is sort of this article is sort of down the middle of just describing what it is

but it is funny even saying like well sometimes they just call women too emotional it's like okay well then we say their serotonin is too low and acting up it's like whatever the linguistics are it's true yes of course of course. And you go, well, they're born like that. And you go, okay. It's like, we've been saying that forever.

Yeah. I've been saying women are born that way forever. Right. And then, and then you told us like five years ago that that was wrong. They weren't. They were, they weren't born that way.

Isn't that so? Yeah, exactly. Right. You go, which is it? You go, well,

we're actually more emotional. Yeah. And you go, yeah. And that's why we didn't want you. We've known that since we're talking shit to each other. Yeah. We've known that since time immemorial and then they tried to fucking

change the and then they go well we're actually exactly the same and you go okay well then you're being too emotional well that's because of our body that's what we're saying agree to agree the study which examined white liberals moderates and conservatives both male and female found that conservatives were less likely to be diagnosed with mental health issues. Maybe because the girls and conservatives, too, it's like they know not to fucking speak up. Yeah, they like their role. When we were in Virginia, we were just in Virginia Beach, and I was doing something about girls. And I was like, what did they say?

And then the girl in the audience goes, the old saying, the man's the head of the household. And I was like, Virginia Beach rules. Yeah, totally. And she had something. I can't remember the saying. She's like, man's the head of the household and i was like virginia totally and she had something i can't remember the saying she's like man's the head of the household and the woman's there uh prop him up or something like that and i was just like this doesn't sound like a saying as much as your boyfriend right yeah he's like everyone in the audience i'm like you guys ever heard this and she was like no this is this is derrick saying this is derrick so yeah i was like a, yeah, Virginia thing. That was funny. I was like,

yeah, I got to move to Virginia. Uh, what's more white women suffer the worst of these for their fucking victims, dude. White women between ages 18 to 29 who, uh, identified with liberal are given mental health diagnosis for medical

prognosions at a rate of 56.3% as opposed to 28%. So essentially the least victimized race of all white women yeah like because especially too like at that age if you have any sort of like like you know you know if you're good looking or whatever it's like you're basically like treated like a moderate celebrity yeah just like you know that's how the world treats you if you're a hot 25 year old if you're a hot 25 your life is like the same as someone who's like a b-list and if you have an instagram account you become like a moderate celebrity pretty that's true but i'm saying just just the way the world treat like you know you guys are constantly coming granted it's guys who are coming up to you but it's like you know you get free stuff like

it's you have this like lifestyle and then you're still like i'm so depressed well the technical term for it was a cute as trump brain is fry It is acute as Trump is acute as Trump brain is fry. It is by Trump. It's almost done. They said when when those raised to think reality is a subjective bump against their objective reality, there can be mental health consequences. So, I mean, that's kind of stuff we probably been saying forever, but pretty good point. I mean, that's another one that we just didn't we didn't mention there but if you are someone who is living that world where you go nothing's real everything's fake or whatever

and then you're yeah if then you encounter objective real truths yeah like for example yeah men are less emotional or whatever and then you have to go not true it's like yeah the world's wrong i'm right the world's wrong yeah which there's mental consequences because you're constantly your brain's under attack by its own ideologies uh interacting with reality yeah it's like your software is bad like your software doesn't work with the hardware essentially danny has software i've got hardware progressivism demands equality for all and keep score to an exhausting unattainable degree agreed we should

be having the difficult conversation that requires but if you take a quick look at the state of our political discourse we might not be ready for it so I think it's very true if you see that even in yourself where you go anytime you're doing a goal that's too vague I think the most times i've been unhappy is when i was what i wanted was way too vague yeah

like you have to break it down into smaller parts and they have to be attainable you can't go two months that's like that's like life coaching like life coaching like zig ziglar and even peterson all those people tony robbins are all like you can't what a name zig ziglar that's the best one but it's like you can't hit a target that you don't have. And I agree with that. For me specifically, the most times that I was fucking lost to any degree...

Oh, for sure. You have no set goal. I didn't know where I was going. Yeah. And the problem people get in when they don't know where they're going is they just don't go anywhere. So it's like you have to move in some direction. Decision paralysis. You have to move in some direction, you've got to do like little bursts where you go let's try this for two weeks then re-evaluate and that's like that's the way but it's hard to teach that that's why i really liked you know we we kind of even

just go back to the subculture conversation i really liked that fucking i mean you kind of probably were the one that maybe even introduced me to the tim ferris and those guys yeah i was i think that was you that showed me yeah i was i was the og tim ferris guy you were the og yeah you were the og tim ferris guy you're like i remember hearing about it in like 2000 i want to say like 11 yeah you knew in the four hour work brian cal brian no it was brian callan on rogan but this was like i think too because i remember i was driving up to north bay yeah when i was dating that one girl or whatever interesting but the i remember seeing i remember seeing a lot of stuff for that because i read robert green and stuff and i remember seeing all the advertisements for the four-hour work weekends kind of seeing it pop up but you know and i don't really pay

that much attention to them anymore because i think i've moved on to my own sort of ideology which he gets the odd good gas people i've listened to the odd good guests but what those guys i think if there's anything to take the best people, and I think maybe Peterson's is for people, but the best thing to think of is to train a way to think. And that's when university's at its best. It's training you how to fucking problem solve. There's a lot of things.

It's a different way of thinking. You go, you don't, but let me just finish that one thought, is the thing that, if I was to put my finger on it, it gave you permission to not feel guilty about things that society tells you you're not supposed to do. Here would be a perfect example. If you have a busy life and you have a girlfriend and you have, uh, like kids or you have a job and you have goals, whatever those things are, you need to say, how much time am I going

to spend with my girlfriend? You know, i'll spend okay what if i spend put slot her in from this time to this you know what i'll decide to hang out with my friends once a week and then people the comment the like world is telling you that's an insane way to look at the world like you're trying to be a robot like you're treating your friends like commodities and scheduling but unfortunately if you want to accomplish anything great, you have to. And he's like, no, you're actually, you have to think of it like that. And I feel like that way of like, oh, yeah, you're right. Everyone's always going to be telling you the wrong thing.

Yeah, for sure. And everybody always has their ideas of how things should be. And are like when your ideas don't mesh with theirs, they're going to be like, you're wrong. Yeah, and should be isn't like when your ideas don't mesh with theirs they're gonna be like you're wrong yeah and should be isn't always what works well it's it's not always what works and there's also no such thing as that there is no such thing as how you should exactly live your life i mean i guess religion is the closest like written down framework and a lot of people would be like that's fucking but even then even in the framework of religion it's like that's a list of you know

ways to still kind of enable you to probably live the best life that you're still you still have to make all those decisions i mean that's religion is the og of them people like i need some sort of direction of how to live my life and they go here you go yeah i probably give some people like a lot of things probably give people structure when they're really up but i still have to put that in the category that i used to say some of my you know some of the tony robbins early tony robbins i didn't like because it was how to just get your life together as opposed to how to be great. For sure. And religion

is more on how to get your life together. So it doesn't have as much of a template on how to be amazing. Maybe it does. No. Well, no, they're different. Well, their version of being amazing is like, you know. So we got, we're going, another episode on the Patreon and the people have spoken that they like

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