The Boyscast with Ryan Long - ARE THE BOYS ADEQUATELY RED PILLED w/ Sneako

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

Sneako's open relationship, getting sued, internet fights and philosophies (hypocrisies) Sneako is a YouTuber, comedian and streamer. SUPPORT THE BOYSCAST: https://www.patreon.com/theboyscast http:...//ryanlongcomedy.com MERCH - ryanlongstore.com Ryan @ryanlongcomedy Danny @dannyjokes Sneako @thesneako LEAVE US A FIVE STAR REVIEW! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:28 The dogs, the birds, the bros, amigos. Woo! And this weekend I'm in St. Louis. But I was, before we get into this interview, I was, so there's all this stuff. And I actually kind of, when I was going through Sneeko's stuff. Yeah. He does all this stuff and i actually kind of uh when i was going through sneaker's stuff yeah he does all this stuff with jitty on and i he's like a big youtuber these guys are like you know big youtube dudes right yeah and i watched his uh he did they all there's like 10 people that have done this documentary on the most racist town in america harrison arkansas right okay
Starting point is 00:01:01 but then i watched a bunch of them and there's this guy that was like at bbc and he actually like kind of pranked him and it was kind of funny but yeah i saw that yeah yeah but the crazy part is everyone at the town's like no we're not racist one guy is in the kkk right the most misunderstood town in america that's what that's what they all say right and the whole thing is some like blog wrote that they're the most racist town in america but they have a guy that's in the kkk but to me i was thinking like that'd be the equivalent of imagine you were the boys and they go sluttiest town in america and you go over there and you go well uh why is it so slutty and you go one really slutty girl and if she leaves it's now the least slutty town in america because everyone's very like I promise you we're not real.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Everyone's very you know they're all that whole deal is like no no no no no no. It sounds like the whole issue too just from a quick look is that people keep selling this guy billboards. Oh so he keeps buying billboards. People keep selling him billboards. So like he has one that says diversity is a code word
Starting point is 00:02:01 for white genocide. I guess if you have a lot of those things in your town it will appear racist if someone comes over but it's mainly you guys got billboards about this shit that's that is wild that yeah they they have a billboard that says that i will give you that but everyone else in all these documentaries is like no that guy is racist it's one guy but anyway there's some like funny ones i guess and i'm looking at too there's an issue because yeah there's no legal mechanism to remove billboards because they're on private land i guess if you own land you can just put up whatever billboards you want wild well anyways sneeko when i first moved here i remember he was doing really good at youtube and
Starting point is 00:02:39 he wanted to start comedy and we talked about this a little bit but he gave me he was kind of telling me you know he's like you're doing your thumbnails wrong and change this change that yeah and he gave me like some pointers that were like super helpful so i always i mean he was working with mr beast he talks about it but yeah and he's doing these like wild streams right now that he like seems like he's having fun with but anyways so uh with yeah we're not gonna this episode we're just gonna go into it and we we kind of like debated with him on like a bunch of stuff
Starting point is 00:03:08 in like a super fun way but it was cool to hang out and he came down from lives at fucking 178th street so he came down all the way down to do the podcast
Starting point is 00:03:15 so very cool without further ado this is our boy Sneeko here with Sneeko what up what up boys cast
Starting point is 00:03:24 this is a big get finally finally invited on this show i didn't know you were waiting for what you mean yeah no we don't do a ton of guests but i yeah i didn't know you were waiting by the phone like that or you just could have said yo i'm fucking i was waiting until i was cool enough to be invited on this podcast you were called sneeko well i always i said from the first moment i met here because you were coming i met you early and you were starting to do stand-up and I watched like a bunch of your videos and I was like, I just thought you were super talented. Like all of the, even just your editing and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I was just like, oh, this guy's really good. So I've said to you, I was like, dude, if you start standup, you're just one of those guys where I could tell you'd be good. Cause it sounds like you're probably good at whatever you do. It's still, I still haven't been back on stage since COVID and I haven't seen you perform, but I've seen all your skits. I've been watching the skits for for years now you do stand up too right you must okay yeah dude it's but it's impossible you're in a kind of a weird spot
Starting point is 00:04:12 because like everyone needs like two or three years where you're like eat sleep and breathe stand up and you're so busy it's almost like how would you do that right yeah it's just i don't know is it just me or just stand up kind of suck right now every time i go and watch it i'm trying to get back everyone is everyone's saying that no you know what the mainstream stand-up really does no but not all across the board obviously but like we were talking before but like you know stuff on comedy central yeah it's not not their best work even the stuff i'm seeing in the clubs like the stuff in the clubs i'm seeing it's very millennial it's very like hey what's the deal with grubhub and like it's like a trendy word like you can get a lot it's always crappy everything in the 80s but i'm tired of hearing like bumble
Starting point is 00:04:54 anyone on the bumble these new apps are so great like these existence is 2014 you know this is not like a new family yeah so have those jokes though. That person's jokes also existed. They're just still doing. No, it's, this is the joke. It's a, I'm on all the apps, Bumble,
Starting point is 00:05:09 uh, Tinder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Craigslist. No, but that's the,
Starting point is 00:05:15 the, like every, everything has good people and bad people. Yeah. So that's, no, you're just like young and too cool for it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:23 You see it. No, no. I don't, I don't. I'm just saying that now because I'm making more money from YouTube and stuff like that, So that's No you're just like Young and too cool for it You know what I mean You see it still As like all these Like millennials I don't I'm just saying that now Because I'm making more money
Starting point is 00:05:28 From YouTube and stuff like that But it's for first You're saying it to yourself You're like I don't need this I think stand up is cooler Comedy is cooler I remember like sitting down In the stand for the first time
Starting point is 00:05:36 Like at the comics table With like Shane Gillis and them And like they were looking at me Yeah you did the Shane thing And they're like Oh he has a lot of followers And they were like looking at it And they were like
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's just because he's good looking Or something like that And I was like And then Shane Gillis Watched my videos And he's like Oh that's funny The little cards You're were like looking at it and they're like it's just because he's good looking or something like that and i was like and then shane gillis watched my videos and he's like oh it's funny the little cards you're stacking the stuff and it was kind of like i felt this energy like all right this is some goofy little youtube shit it doesn't have any validity in the comedy club and then i'm like fuck i gotta step my game up and so back then i was making like these inspirational videos and stuff like that really good pointing a camera at my face
Starting point is 00:06:02 and stuff like that so it's kind of like you know the young guy with the camera on with the camera on him saying, hey, I didn't have to be funny at that time. I could just talk about some deep stuff that I knew would resonate when people in the comments would be like, whoa, you really motivated me. And I'm just tired of making that same content over and over again. I mean, everyone goes through eras. Yeah. No, a lot of people stick to and do the same thing for the whole life. Most people don't have eras Yeah I guess
Starting point is 00:06:27 Ben Shapiro's not gonna have an era No He's making the same exact stuff I think a lot of people That make a lot of good stuff Over their whole life Go through eras Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:37 I think so Yeah the good ones do For sure So you're sick of the motivational stuff You're like I ain't no fucking role model bitch Yeah I wanna like Completely be anti
Starting point is 00:06:44 I wanna stop caring about stuff I wanna be like the don't give a fuck i hate everything patrice o'neill type of you love patrice i want to develop that like i hate everything so i could be funny again because when i was doing stand-up i care too much i got too nervous beforehand i had too much anxiety going on stage i'd be like smoking or like taking a shot before it was too much preparation and then also for not making any money like i would take flights and go places i did stand up in berlin that's tough when you're making money like for sure and you're giving up on stuff you're like i'm passing over things that are actually like yeah you're sacrificing time you could be streaming or stuff like that when i'm making absolutely no money for like yeah there's also i think it could suck too because
Starting point is 00:07:21 you are like kind of famous that if people see you doing standup, but like when you're just starting, you're like, yeah, I'm still trying to get good at this. Yeah. And the people are like, yeah, they have high expectations. They don't know like what the process is
Starting point is 00:07:32 and they come out and they're just like, you're not fucking Chris Rock and they're like, but you're like as famous as Chris Rock to them. Well, to them. To them, to Gen Z, yeah. Well, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:40 And then they're just like, yeah. And comedy agents are calling me a lot like saying, hey, let's book a show. Let's like sell these tickets. And I'm like, I'm not ready. Like I don't just like yeah and comedy agents are calling me a lot like saying hey let's book a show let's like sell these tickets and I'm like I'm not ready like I don't have any
Starting point is 00:07:47 fucking comedy agents are doing that a lot and that's why there's a lot of bad comedy just anybody with a following who could sell tickets gets to go on stage and like be next to somebody who's actually good
Starting point is 00:07:56 and I don't want to like I don't want to get that condescending look from real comics like this fucking YouTuber I'm tired well I remember when I first met him
Starting point is 00:08:04 it was interesting because he was i've always come up in comedy where there was a little of that like oh youtubers but then everyone kind of it's it's more meshed where it's like all of the biggest stand-ups are kind of youtubers i say right like if you think about it right but then uh you were he was like oh i'm sneaker or whatever i'm an influencer you introduced that You introduced me. Oh, well, I didn't think of it necessarily as negative. I was kind of like, oh, interesting. Like, he's proud of that. Damn.
Starting point is 00:08:34 No, but I was thinking, I always, there's sometimes me and you talk where I was more like, oh, fuck, I'm old. Well, that was just one of the phases. Yeah, that was an era. That was my influencer era was that an era it was there was like a good like five six months where i'm like yes i'm clouded and like i'd walk around and i'm like this shit is fucking corny bro this shit is okay you were proud of being an influencer i was proud of like having realized that yeah well i i got
Starting point is 00:08:59 some self-esteem from having followers and being like slightly famous and then people be like oh and i'd be like yeah and i just i felt like the shit and i was like okay well why is nothing else happening like i feel cool but i'm not making money dude if nothing's going on it feels like you're having like an epiphany every six months yeah yeah not really he comes he mentioned me four months ago or whatever four days ago and he was just like streaming's the new thing he's like youtube's done no not youtube this is gen x. I think podcasts are done. This is Gen X take. He goes, podcasts are done.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Well, I thankfully have a podcast that's also a live stream. Oh, you live stream your podcast? I do like a call-in show. Yeah, isn't that way better? It's more interactive. It's more exciting. It's more interactive. It's a different thing.
Starting point is 00:09:39 It's a totally different thing. There's too many. You know what I will say? Guests, I find, are worse on that format. Why? That format's better by yourself. I don't know. Well, because people are calling in, and I feel like it just gets too, there's too much
Starting point is 00:09:50 going on when there's like- And they need to feel special the whole time. All the attention needs to be on that. Well, you're like, you know, it's hard to get that kind of the give and take, whereas we give each other time to talk and stuff. I don't know. It doesn't flow as well. Well, you're kind of, your guest is sort of the caller.
Starting point is 00:10:03 Exactly. It's like an interactive call. So they have to essentially be a guest they're a co-host so then and then you have someone like a comedian
Starting point is 00:10:08 and they're all trying to get jokes in and it's just it's too much and this guy's like no I need advice my wife is dying as we speak
Starting point is 00:10:14 this dude's fucking plowing my wife right now yeah yeah yeah what should I do he's calling for very urgent advice I love the idea
Starting point is 00:10:22 if you have someone calling on your show being like I've got the knife to his head but you with the with the like streaming thing you've obviously been like streaming four hours a day right
Starting point is 00:10:32 now but you're you put your life out there for everyone very controversial these days yeah and it's been good because it gives me a lot to talk about and also like it gives me be able to feed bait to the trolls and like people who are going to be hating on it. And I know what they're going to take.
Starting point is 00:10:47 And then I can just show, oh, these people are corny. What are your biggest controversies recently? People are calling me a cuck. They're calling me cucko. Why? Oh, no. Cucko in the chat. I'm getting a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:10:58 So a couple months ago, I was on a podcast. And I talked about it. So I have an open relationship with my girl. I got an open relationship with this girl, too. to. I got an open relationship with this girl too. Ah, I see what I'm saying. Yeah. And I told the story how we went to a play party, we went to a sex party and I thought like because I want an open relationship, like she's seen me with other women, I thought
Starting point is 00:11:16 that it'd be like fair if I saw her with another dude. And so we like swapped with a couple. I ain't like it. And then we stopped. But you watched. For three pumps. I saw three pumps and I was with his girl on top and i was like and it just like i'm like not and i walked out the room and then she walked out the room too which is like okay okay um and
Starting point is 00:11:34 that was the end of the open relationship no it's the end of just doing just the end of him being a cuck yeah it was the end of my cuck experience it lasted three pumps he didn't he didn't like that three times like like it. Three pump chump. How did the guy watching you get a smash in his chick? I couldn't get it up for his chick, bro. I couldn't get it up for his bitch, bro. That must be super common. No, because there was a couple of things going on.
Starting point is 00:11:57 It's a lot going on. I wanted to talk about this open relationship from a humbling perspective. Do you want to press to her to talk about this right now? No, bro. No. I wanted to just talk about it once like mad long and now since i started streaming i get all these haters and like he's a cook he's a cook and like these people are like watching my videos and why do they hate watching you like are they kind of like i have a lot of hate watching cheek trolls no no they're like we like them but we've kind of taken the piss or i made like gay jokes like so there's these self-improvement youtubers and they were like stretching and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:12:26 and they were in short shorts. I was just calling them gay because they're stretching in the camera. It's just funny. Like, hey, yo, just simple stuff. And they get mad like, his character, he's lost his purpose. He's not even going to the gym and he's a cuck.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Like people will try to ruin your life because you made a joke. And then I'm like, guys, like, do you really think, it's like, why do you think that they said that? They're trying to ruin my character. I saw like a little bit of that, just like even the last couple of days when I was looking at your stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But like my synopsis was more just like, dude, it's like what I said, where it's like, you're fucking young and you're trying to figure out like what exactly you want to do. And you're like the same way that you're just going through any like phases, but you're doing it in front of everyone. Yeah. And it's a lot of mental stress it's fucking heavy maybe you will be doing all this like getting pussy content for like four months and you're just like yeah you know what that was or maybe you have more of
Starting point is 00:13:13 that i don't know i don't even i'm not even thinking i'm doing getting pussy content that's what you think it is damn right it's getting pussy content for the bull do you get a lot of uh like those no i don't think no but you have a You're going through Your kind of like Young guy smashing phase Isn't I mean Aren't you out there
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yeah Yeah In pretty public About like Yo look at me With this hot bitch I'm not trying to You have a bit of
Starting point is 00:13:36 Rapper energy I'm not even Trashing you But I'm not trying To like brag about it I'm trying to just show That there's a way To get an open relationship
Starting point is 00:13:43 With your girl And I'm trying to help You want that to work I want it to work for everyone well do you want me to know this one of the big secrets is probably don't talk about it so much online would probably be the best way to do it well that's because everyone's afraid of getting that reaction but at least i'm showing what happens no it probably makes it more complicated like if you have a chick and she's like my chick my chick knows what's up and she she's not even like she's not phased by any of it and she's even getting like people in her DMs, stuff like that, trying to talk about me. It's really not affected my relationship at all.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And you don't care? I don't care about what? Like, you have pretty thick skin about all this stuff. It's helped me. Seeing the three pumps develops thick skin. You know what I'm saying? That's the most insecure thing for men, is seeing your girl get three pumps. And I saw it.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You know what I'm saying? So it's like, now the fear of that happening isn't as strong so you don't think there's something to that like yeah all right now if she gets mad and like all right well what if i leave what if i all right i saw it already i see where we're shit the threat of it you know okay if you want to if you want to do that then i'm just gonna leave you you know i'm saying yeah did you did you stock up on viagra for what for for the next one for the one or were you raw were you going uh in with no peds no i went in i went in you know what i think i did pop a honey for that party you have to i think i did nothing bro just like the the fucking it was
Starting point is 00:14:57 i think it was our first it was the first we've we've been back we've we've we go back now but that was the first one that experience that i talked about and i was just like whoa like performing in front of fucking people my bitch is on a bed with someone else i'm here with this guy's fat girlfriend like it was just it was just a good trade for him you're saying yeah i'm like that was part of he's like i'm downgrading like why does he get to upgrade and i get a downgrade that's not fair that's not fair the swinger lifestyle the swinger swinger people look like they're at the dV They're not really like extremely We used to do comedy at this place Outside of Toronto Called Oasis Swingers Club
Starting point is 00:15:29 Library people Walmart people We're the youngest people there My girlfriend's hot All these people looking at my girl You all look hungry Staring at my girl This is not a fair trade-off yeah
Starting point is 00:15:46 yeah they should be paying you guys that's so funny that you fuck this guy's fat girlfriend and he got your and he's like yeah you're like why you look so excited right now yeah the guy's like i love swinging you're like i bet you do yeah he goes like a hot instagram chick and he's like you're fucking fucking barbs. I'm moving up her fat roll so I can get inside, bro. This is not a fair exchange. This guy's trying to give you props. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:16:15 That's funny shit. You learn. You live and learn. That was the first one. So basically, I'm obsessed with her. How was she? There were walls in the way Why didn't you say
Starting point is 00:16:27 Hold on When your chick was like How about we start with these two Because she doesn't care No no no She's not thinking about The attractive level She's just like excited
Starting point is 00:16:34 Was the guy gross too He was He had purple hair He was like bisexual That was one of those If you listen to the podcast Like he was like open Those guys are known
Starting point is 00:16:42 To have gross girlfriends too Yes And those guys They like swinger parties because they don't get grossed out by other balls. Because they're gay. Because they're a little gay. I don't like being in the vicinity of other open, hairy balls. I'd be like, she'd be on top of me.
Starting point is 00:16:55 She'd be on top of a turnoff. I'd be with my girl, and then guys are just walking up, dick out, trying to angle in to get a hole. I'm like, bro, a little bit of space. Your eyes would be closed, you'd open up, and you'd just see dicks. You know what I'm like, bro, like a little bit of space. A little bit. Like your eyes would be closed. You open up and you just see dicks. Like, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like the type of guys that are comfortable with that are like a little.
Starting point is 00:17:11 You know, I'm there because I want to. A little light in the low for us. Huh? A little light in the low for us. Yeah. Like I'm there because I want to exercise the open relationship. These guys are there because that's their zone. That's where they thrive.
Starting point is 00:17:22 You're there because you're on a quest. On a quest. I'm just trying to get an open relationship. Is that the rules of the open relationship where you guys have to be together like that? You can't just go
Starting point is 00:17:28 do your own thing? No, it's kind of like every cop has to take the taser when they first do the job. I got a tase. No, because I want to do my own thing
Starting point is 00:17:38 and I don't think girls are capable of doing their own thing. I don't think that they could fuck other people without separating their... You know what I'm saying? If a girl's in love with thing. I don't think that they could fuck other people without separating their... You know what I'm saying? If a girl's in love with you,
Starting point is 00:17:47 she can't just go out and cheat. Why don't you just get a deal where it's just you? You seem like you're capable of getting that deal. That's what we do now. Yeah, you're like, that sounds way better. Yeah, that's what we do now. I mean, doesn't that sound like something you would be able to negotiate?
Starting point is 00:17:59 I don't know. But I wanted it to be fair. You're famous, you got a lot of that going on. But see, I believed in the gender equality thing before. Before that party, I'm like- This is what red-pilled him. It did. It did, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I thought that- Three pumps and you go, red pill, please. Yes. See three pumps and you will be red-pilled. Girls cannot cheat like guys can cheat. Bisexual fucking Brooklyn guy just banging your chick and you're sitting there hello darkness my old friend dude that's so funny just getting mid that and then you're just like yo i think i'm fucking joining men's rights activists forum yeah and then yeah so yeah i
Starting point is 00:18:39 guess i would say there's a difference between like yeah you like to watch a girl fucking swinging not that uh like i i mean i've uh been in scenarios where uh switching with dudes but like none of them were like our chicks you know what i mean there was random hoes hoes i brought my the love of my life you're not supposed to do that i didn't know that i know that and does she want to the worst would be if she's like the next day she goes i want to want to go back. I don't want to go back. That was a one-time thing. That's so funny. It's a rare thing. She's like, I want to go back tonight.
Starting point is 00:19:08 No, we've been back like five times, but we didn't swap or anything like that anymore. Then why go? It's because it's a really truthful environment. When you talk to other couples in that open sex environment, we just enjoy dancing. He goes for the convos. Not dead ass, bro. The conversations there are way more real than you'll have in the club.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Like the couples there will just talk to the club. All the small talk, like the small talk you have at a club is like, what do you do? What's your job? What's your, but they're, they're just like,
Starting point is 00:19:37 we're just talking as two couples who are not afraid of any pretense because we're, we're here already. Like sex is open here. Let's just talk. Or like there's dance floors and shit like that. like you know we you know yeah well you're gonna say fucking drugs no well i don't i don't want to come i want to try to promote that bad life i don't want to like come off like i'm bragging about shit like there's other girls too like i
Starting point is 00:19:59 like i like having openness with other girls i don't like dudes involved but it's not fun to talk about that call him crazy it's not it's not fun to talk about that because guys in the comments would be like oh you think you're an alpha male you think you're so but like that's genuinely what i want i don't like fucking dick i like seeing other girls there's a lot of people who are disagreeing with you who are like why do you think that you have no because then you sound like you get like oh you get so many girls right like you know'm saying? I don't want to like. Sneako argues with people in the comments all day like this. All day. All day.
Starting point is 00:20:29 All day long. You must be just like meditation practice. You must get so wound up. You guys are the sex club. Yeah, I do, bro. This shit has been winding me up. This shit must be winding me up. I need to take a week off of streaming, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Like arguing with the trolls in the trenches and Discord and YouTube comments. Do they leave YouTube? Like are you getting them on Instagram and stuff? All over. IG, Discord. They're just coming at you everywhere. I'll get on my Discord server after a stream and it's like 10 guys talking at once
Starting point is 00:20:50 and there's guys like, let me fuck your girl, let me fuck your girl. And then you just troll back and forth with them. But I think it makes you funnier. Like, what I wasn't, I felt very unfunny when I was in the, I'm an influencer. Like, that was very like self-esteem boost.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Like, I'm just living in the ego of it. But when I'm in the Discord trenches with the trolls, with like you're a cook like those people then i'm like ah fuck you where's your fucking avi where's your camera turn your camera on ugly and they don't turn it on do it i'm like that's why you got an anime profile picture and then they get quiet it's very fun to just argue back and forth with just the bottom that's i can't like i have there's nothing in my life where i like enjoy it because i hate it like it seems like you know what i'm saying like they're like your skits is based off but i'm saying but they're like they're to like beef with you they're all like in your discord to just like
Starting point is 00:21:33 no they're not they liked getting a reaction out of you and so that you could just but they do like you they like instead of just like yo i love your videos they're just trying to say some stupid shit like hey you're gay oh you're a cuck you know i'm saying like bro let's talk about something yeah yeah but then when he gets real and it's like you're like let's talk and they're just trying to say some stupid shit like hey you're gay oh you're a cuck you know i'm saying like bro let's talk about something yeah yeah but then when he gets real and it's like you're like let's talk and they're like oh this isn't fun no they like they were in it for like i think a lot of people follow you for your like philosophies and stuff like that i'm just saying with the people who are beefing like they're like no no no the people who are beefing are other youtubers other established youtubers with fans and stuff like that who are making exposed videos
Starting point is 00:22:02 like detailing my life and like gathering information from years of watching my shit and like making like this is why he's a bad person i'm like bro you're in you've just watched yesterday damn yeah yeah that is uh you're living the chaotic life right now who else are you getting in fights with i i like the youtube beef bro i like it well that's part of the if you're gonna be in that like sort of streaming daily content game you need something People like a little bit of you know what I mean? Do you get doxxed yet? No. I don't want that to happen. That would suck.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah, that's positive. So didn't you have... This one recently was... I guess it wasn't really streamer beef, but it was pretty fucking sick. There's some girls suing you, right? Yeah. Around here at this bar, not too far yeah snego does street stuff and you did an interview with this girl right is this am i getting this right and
Starting point is 00:22:51 then basically she like messaged you and was like take this down kind of thing so it was tell me that story i'll tell you the story i've been talking about a bunch of the lawyer stuff but i was kind of confused let me explain how it happened because it's funny that – It's kind of funny, yeah. I was making amends with the first feminist, and while doing that, I got sued by another feminist. So I'm interviewing about catcalling on the street, and then some girl has her moment like, you can just catcall people at 10 p.m. at night, and I'm like, okay, fine. And then she starts yelling at me, spitting and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Like, this is mad stupid, just trying to have her her big feminist like look at me i'm saving the women and i'm like just at just staying cool calm and then break down like all right she just wanted to have a moment she likes attention a month later we do a follow-up video and i want to do it in a bar right next to where that should happen so we walk into the bar and i'm filming and uh the bartender sees me filming and like makes about herself. She's in the corner, and I'm like, is the girl in here? I was going to do an interview in here.
Starting point is 00:23:48 She's like, you can't just come in here filming. I'm like, fine, I'll leave. Just go outside. It's not about you. I don't care about this. And then we go back in with the girl. I'm like, oh, now can we film?
Starting point is 00:23:55 And she's like, you're being disrespectful, so no. I'm like, okay, fine. We go and film outside. She's not in it. She comes outside on the public, on the sidewalk, and she's filmed because we're filming a video, and her face is in it. And even though she's outside in it she comes outside on the public on the sidewalk and she's filmed because we're filming a video and her face is in it and even though she's outside of new york you're
Starting point is 00:24:10 allowed to film strangers on the street in new york she still sued me or she and then she threatened the she called the bouncers i got a privacy complaint the video got deleted and it had nothing to do with her she was in it for 0.2 seconds and it was just funny that she had like a fucking main character i'm an actor moment she's in sag after she like in all the messages like i'm in the student like i'm in the actors guild this like bro that doesn't make you like have any self-esteem you're not important because you signed up for an actor make you a loser you're you're a bartender you know i'm saying you're not a successful actor you're a thespian i'm a talented thespian but relax you're a bartender but just because she was on the street for one
Starting point is 00:24:51 second youtube doesn't listen to that i've had to take down the video and it's just like but how funny like i'm trying to like make resolve the first feminist and i catch another one on the way can't catch a break you can't win man so what happened with this on biker hassan reacts to my one-minute podcast i do these street interviews and he just like he's he's very liberal like he streams all day every day just complaining about oh god these right-wing incels these ends he just called me an incel like reacted to my stuff and it's like funny calling you an incel do you know what incel means yeah this word has no meat i very publicly show my girlfriend you're pretty good with chicks.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Riz is part of my shit. He's 30. You know what that word means, right? You watch his shit? I've seen it. No, I don't watch his shit. But you're aware of him. To see what's going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:36 I go, you do this eight hours? I've never watched his streams, but I mostly see him when he's fighting with someone. So then did you make a reaction i made a reaction video to that but then and i asked him like you want to come on stream you want to debate and that like these guys they'll complain all day and then they don't want to have conversation h3h3 these like left-leaning fucking podcasters it's so ironic that podcast supposed to be about freedom of speech and open dialogue open conversation and they're afraid of conversation they don't get on
Starting point is 00:26:02 the phone they will roast you call you an incel in front of 40,000 people, but they can't pick up the phone. Yeah. And OK, I'll never, you know, I'm not trying to ever be like the fucking on the side of no on the side of like whatever getting mad or whatever. But there is like you also kind of know what you're doing because I see the clips you put on TikTok sometimes. We'll be like the like the clip that if i was you and someone clipped that of me and put it on i'd be like what are you doing bro like like you know what i mean like sneak off put a clip on tiktok of him being like they're not humans women and i'm like yo is this like someone fucking with you and it's like several you clipped it because you know
Starting point is 00:26:42 like well you know how to fucking get the most views. Yeah, whatever. Which again, that creates comedy. When you get all the people mad reacting to that, then you just make so much content. Just like, bro, you're dumb, you're dumb, you're dumb, you're dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, there's one thing if they're saying we don't like it and whatever,
Starting point is 00:26:57 which sometimes those guys do. But a lot of times it's like, hey, get their fans rallied up to try to cancel. They try to get this guy's strike. And also they don't even go at the argument. they just get mad at what you said because you said it like not caring and they're like well what if you're just gay and it's just like you all say the same argument they just say toxic insecure and gay if you say something that goes against their ideology who hurt you you're just a toxic this they don't everyone's a little insecure you're a little toxic i know like so what i exactly like why do they say that for life yeah tea boys look at us a bunch of tea boys
Starting point is 00:27:30 no you're not a toxic boy like me and sneaker family man dan just a few tea boys chopping it up okay fine there's okay enough of these controversy people okay well the one thing that i actually one more thing about the streaming that so he's trying to tell me that you do streaming i was saying one of the reasons why i think for me and again he's younger and still like fucking tons of years to figure out like you know where you're gonna spend all your time but there's like an old stoicism thing and like ryan holiday says this a lot where it's like a it's like what do you want your days to look like so there is a billet like it sounds like you like streaming where it's like what do i want to do and then there's another part of me that's like okay i spend like all this time
Starting point is 00:28:14 being maybe the best in the world and making videos or doing stand-up and it's like those are things i care about it's like why am i gonna go do this like other thing now that i like like less and you're like i know you could say well that's what people care about and it's kind of the future and it's like well then i take a bit of a career hit to like do what i want to do and make what i want to make maybe i mean i'd say the interactive part of it is fun i do like the whole yeah it's cool we were talking about super interactive part is cool i do enjoy it gives you so much energy like when you're talking live and you see all these people they can text you and talk to you immediately so it's just like having fast conversation with so many people.
Starting point is 00:28:45 No, you are right. Cause we do our Patreon once a month live right now. And we're talking about doing the other one. Cause it is cool. You know, sometimes it's just, it's someone that's not there,
Starting point is 00:28:54 but sometimes they make a good point and you're like, Oh, we'll talk about that for sure. And I mean, it just, yeah, it's like, it's just the interactive thing.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Like you could say something and then just someone can, you know, it's a podcast where the user, like the viewer gets to kind of be on it a bit what's the isn't it kind of like podcast and stand-up mashed together live streaming i think it's a combination of comedy and stand-up unless there's an audience but that is an audience it's a live audience and it's not even that they can also react immediately hmm that's a good question like you know when something's funny what's not when they're spamming lmao and they're putting laugh emojis, you know it's funny.
Starting point is 00:29:25 But stand-up is like playing an instrument that the audience, an audience's audio is part of that instrument, right? Yeah, there's too much of a lag. Yeah, so it's like the stand-up is like their energy laughing, but you can't actually see it. So I understand it probably uses some of the same things or something. I don't see the difference. So you hear their sound.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Honestly, the time for them to start like just typing in the emojis is like in terms of timing a joke is well imagine you're making your friends laugh in person right like that's not the same as sending them a voice note and then then sending back ha ha ha like it's just but it's not just a voice note when you're live streaming it's a camera on you you can't hear that no there's no like when you listen to a stand-up special the reason the audience like why is the audience laugh still there it's not necessary like if what you're saying is true like why would you need the audience laughs in a stand-up special and the reason is is because that's part of the instrument well i could upload the live streams without the chat but i do because that's part of it yeah for
Starting point is 00:30:19 sure but the audio is not even good on zoom like even on zoom where you actually can maybe see them and hear them you're like it still kind of sucks yeah yeah i don't know there's something about i mean similar principles but like you you know you would like even pace it differently like you're pacing your streams like you're ranting you're not pacing your streams like leaving room for their laughs because they're not there because yeah they're sitting at home right but i mean whatever it's all like this a lot of the same muscles but they're just different like can you argue that a lot of stand-up sets are not just like extended rants or like spaced out some people are yeah but they the thing is you'd rant faster or slower or you know uh explain more or less or go harder or less hard based on how much of their crowd's
Starting point is 00:30:59 laughing so it's like it's all just it's very like the same reason that you would if you're on a date with a girl and you're making her laugh, if you said a bunch of jokes and she didn't laugh at any of them, you'd be like, you know what? Let me take out this next part. I was about to say, I'm going to pull it back. So it's all just, but it's all related. But again, that doesn't really matter anyway. What's the red pill life?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Oh, what, what is the, uh, cause I heard you talk about that a lot on streams lately. So did that change for you in the last couple years? The red pill shit? Yeah, like where you got onto that I think I've been on that I used to read that shit back in high school Like I'd be 17 I went to boarding school just in my dorm room
Starting point is 00:31:35 Like reading the red pill Like doing push-ups in my room Like yeah, come on bro You know, you're trying to get strong and shit But then That really helped me see the reality You got popular young, dude You were like What was your how old were you when that first video popped off like fucking 14 i made that uh no actually i was pretty old in that i think i was like 17 in that video
Starting point is 00:31:52 i just looked young yeah asian puberty went through late um yeah but that video that video popped off like three years after but i had always had an audience like from pretty young age i've always been i've been doing youtube for like nine years now, you kind of grew up in front of everyone, right? Yeah. So now I'm not afraid to hide anything. I've been showing everything since I was fucking 14. I might as well just fully dive in, get called a cuck. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Fuck it, bro. I'll get called a cuck. Okay, so what's your favorite takeaways from Patricio O'Neal? Because I know you're into him lately. No, I've been a huge Patricio O'Neal fan for years. I've listened to, I think almost every single Audio recording every single ONA clip Everything I could find
Starting point is 00:32:28 I've kind of taken a step back because I feel like I've learned Everything I could from him but he really like Provided me like a sort of philosophy to follow Because I'm not religious and I don't have a job like I'm independent I just do so he was like the closest Thing to like a sense of Like this is what you should do.
Starting point is 00:32:45 You know what I'm saying? Like a mentor that's, I've never met him. He died a long time ago. I like the idea of you accepting a speech once when your actual parents are there. And you know, I just want to thank my mom and my dad, Patrice O'Neill. Your dad's there. Like what the? I might even, I might even thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Like he really gave me a lot of guidance. But what are some of them? I think to follow, to believe believe in like he had this one radio clip he was defending don emas or someone uh he made a joke calling a girl a nappy headed hoe and don emas got his radio show canceled and then he went on the news and patrice was like he was defending it even though a lot of people were saying nappy headed hoe was racist he was like yeah it sounds bad but like i defend the effort to be funny like i believe in funny his intention was to make you laugh and so he got his radio show canceled,
Starting point is 00:33:26 but at the core, he was just trying to make you smile. And that's some funny shit. Nappy headed hoe. That's a good punchline, objectively. So hearing that like made me realize that so many people get mad, but they don't look at the intention.
Starting point is 00:33:37 You shouldn't look at just what was said. You should look at the intention of why someone said that. And not even in just like comedy and in real life. Yeah, I mean, mean if someone you know cancels plans with you or like anything you go what what actually happened here like is this real or it's not the thing it's the fucking what they were up to seems like this is about me my famous
Starting point is 00:33:56 if someone cancels plans to you to a dj event uh no last minute yeah my favorite patrice on the other one that i like probably brought up to a lot of girls because i think it's the most true thing where it's like i'm paraphrasing exactly what he said but i've said a version of it but like that men want girls around we just don't want you like here you know what i mean it's like it is so true sometimes just like dude i would actually like you kind of being around or whatever. In the vent. Yeah. Like a plant. But it's like you can't just be bugging me all the time. Bitches be bugging.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Like we want to, what do you say? Like we don't want to be alone, but we want to be by ourself. Yeah. Something like that is a really good way to put it too. But it's honest to God. That is so true with me. Whereas there's like so many times they'll be like,
Starting point is 00:34:44 you can't, like, can't you just like entertain yourself? I mean, if you're like doing that, you're doing that. But it's like, you know, it's hard to like, and then my thoughts getting interrupted. It's like, just be there. It's comforting. They're not very good at entertaining themselves
Starting point is 00:35:00 when you're around them, right? They kind of need your attention a lot. Yeah, I guess. They kind of need to feed. Like you can just like sit there, fortnight for six hours right or you play whatever the fuck you can sit down and play a video game for six hours she will need to like well come watch a movie with me come bake a cookie like they can't if they're with you they need to be doing something with watch me fuck mike watch shut the fuck up that's it that's the last one i promise you said i didn't bring it up no but the you're right That's it. That's the last one, I promise. You said it. I didn't bring it up. No, but you're right. That's it.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I'm out. No, but you are right. And I think part of it is the, like, it's not just the, like, can't be occupied. It's also that they're way more always multitasking. You know what I mean? As opposed to, like, I'm just like, focus on what you are doing. you know what i mean as opposed to like i'm just like focus on what you are doing yeah you know i mean whereas a lot of times i'm like in my head i'm focused on something whether it's in life or just even figuring shit out yeah you're kind of figuring things out and
Starting point is 00:35:54 i'm almost like tossing ideas around in my head or whatever like you i almost you almost have conversations with yourself more you look like you're just holding your balls but you're really thinking about five things like your business what you got to do here the next upload what's going to go on your family you're just figuring shit out and then her coming in just interrupts that thought flow and then you get mad and she doesn't realize why you're mad but it's like i was figuring shit out it's so hard to explain why you asking me one question the amount of times i've had that argument where it's like hey would you mind if we i was thinking about uh doing this for like uh dinner tomorrow or something and you're just like i don't want to talk about that right now it's like
Starting point is 00:36:28 what just one second i was like yes but i'm like kind of mentally like juggling five things in my head that i'm thinking about and every time you say something like that to me i start like the whole thing falls over and you start again you gotta get that matt lauer button that's what you need did you not know the matt lauer button what's the matter about matt lauer he he got me too but he essentially had a button to lock because you had a giant office right so he had a button that just locks his door from like across the room the women out just nobody bugs him it was basically yeah so his assistant couldn't come in and tell him something and then they would go he did it to trap women in his fucking car. Yeah, so it came out that he had a,
Starting point is 00:37:07 it kind of was the whole thing, like he had this button to like lock girls in. Yeah, everybody was like, this fucking, this animal. And then he's like, I just hate being bothered. Every reasonable guy saw that and go, fuck, I gotta get me a Matt Lauer button. You guys seem anti-Red Pill. What do you think, what do you disagree with the Red Pill?
Starting point is 00:37:22 No, I think I'm, to be honest, I think I'm any like all-encompassing philosophy to some degree because every philosophy that has all the answers is like i feel like a lot of philosophies are solving a problem that needs to be solved and i think one of the things that i've more as i got older come to terms with like i bet you even with you like some of the things that you're, and again, like have good opinions on and are grappling with or whatever is like, you know, what is the perfect way to have a girlfriend? Can I do this polyamorous thing? Can I do this? Like, right. And I think that I've come to some degree that they're like, really isn't a perfect answer. It's all just trade-offs. So it's like, if I was to be like,
Starting point is 00:38:00 oh, I'm this, you know, kind of, uh,, kind of this mentality and that's my philosophy on life. It's also, there's going to be trade-offs to that. So everything's like trade-offs to some degree. So every, it's almost like I like to pick the things I like from a menu. You know, I'm like, oh, that's smart. You're an agnostic red pill. Yeah. Well, I think that with most things,
Starting point is 00:38:23 I generally come out of having a good gripe to point out you know what i mean so i mean i've always kind of been like yeah most people are wrong about everything there's that old stock market thing like whenever you're on the side of everyone you're kind of on the wrong side yeah and my thing has always been like i felt like i've always felt like that like since i was very young where i'm like i had my little crew and i we all felt like everyone was an idiot including my parents yeah i really always felt like that. Like since I was very young where I'm like, I had my little crew and I, we all felt like everyone was an idiot. Including my parents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I really do feel like that. I mean, in terms of the red pill stuff, like, yeah, I don't know the fact that you felt different than everyone. Oh, I didn't necessarily feel different.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I felt like me and my little, some people, I wouldn't feel like different from everyone, but I'm like, yeah, I definitely, I definitely for sure felt that. Do you think that everyone thinks that or just,
Starting point is 00:39:00 that's a comic way of thinking? No, I don't think that everyone, I don't think so. No, I don't think that. Maybe a comedian, maybe a whatever. I think you need to have that to be a comedian. I was also different. Like, you know, in a comic way of thinking? No, I don't think that. I don't think so. No, I don't think that. Maybe a comedian, maybe a whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I think you need to have that to be a comedian. I was also different. Like, you know, in a lot of ways, I was like, you know, fucking like just, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:12 kicked out of every, like I was sort of on the outscores. Or at least I was like my little squad of people. But the same reason why it's, right now,
Starting point is 00:39:21 it's like there's lots of people that have like brutal opinions, but there's lots, there are people like, you know, I think you're one of them, that has like, you know, he kind of gets it. Like you're saying, you're like woken up to the thing. But I think when things, philosophies start to fall apart for me is when they start kind of being like telling you what you should do to live. Like this is how you should live.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Do you think I do that? No, I don't think you do, but I think that every kind of philosophy inherently does. Yeah, they're generally dogmatic. I mean mean that's kind of the point of them aren't you saying that like you were part of this like red pill community i don't think i'm part of the red now they're mad at you because like whatever some other shit no i don't think they're that wasn't even red pill people those are like self-improvement that's the they don't like i don't know there's an overlap there the self-improvement there is but they've also made videos against it and they were called me a fake alpha male fake red pill they were like anti that whole idea but i don't i mean it becomes its own little
Starting point is 00:40:07 thing but like yeah there's i really do like to listen to fucking stoics like entrepreneur guys yeah i don't know andrew tate that well we only found out about him like a couple years ago uh no before that probably probably found out about him well Tom Seger found out about him. Well, I guess I saw something. And so I guess the reason why everybody's been seeing so much of him is because he has this course. And part of the course is you get a referral. So when you see all his videos, they're all different accounts that are just like part of his thing is go repost my videos on TikTok. So there's like a million people that he figured out this incentive structure where part of the Part of the thing is like to make money is you keep reposting my shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And he knows he will. He says triggering things that gets posted on TikTok. No, it is kind of like a pyramid scheme. He's got a Patreon that exploded. All his Patreon clips go viral. Yeah. And they all help him out. They all direct him to his Patreon.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Yeah, exactly. Which is 50 a month. Hustlers University. Yeah, the Hustlers University. That's what it is. The Hustlers University thing. And part of it is you're like yeah so if you
Starting point is 00:41:07 fucking like it is really mid-level or multi-level marketing yeah it's a pyramid scheme yeah it's a pyramid scheme it's just like you just keep putting out my shit and then anybody you sign up
Starting point is 00:41:15 like you get a piece of that or whatever and literally just that's what it is but it's genius because it's really which is funny because he's pimping men
Starting point is 00:41:21 he's just pimping men and he also pimps women he has a cam girl business and they all wasn't that how he got popular yeah he has a cam girl business and now he just applied exactly the pimping logic to girls to guys and they're all there i like um i like listening to him i'm not part of the hustlers university uh but i do like listening to him i find that the problem i think remember how you just said you're just like you know i kind of like studied pedreza on the ld7 degree or whatever and then you kind of were like it's not that you
Starting point is 00:41:48 have it all figured out but you kind of like you internalized a lot from them or whatever yeah i find that with a lot of guys that i you know you kind of were like oh that guy that was so helpful that book like changed the way that i look at things and then like five years later you're like that was what's wrong yeah but that's because like you grew built off of it and it wasn't because that was wrong it's because you're like yeah I already think that so I'm reading a book of things I think now you're just like duh and you're like well yeah he was the one who told you first now you're it's it's you it's the guy that told you about you know some band and then you go back five years ago and later and you're like yo do you hear about this band he's like I told you about that you're like you don't know shit about this man so what's his what do you think his best uh like what's his best
Starting point is 00:42:30 piece of advice i guess he just represents like what men really want i think he gets and same with patrice i think patrice is really honest about the male about male nature and i think that's why he relates to so many guys about stuff like that like what you said is because he i think he really figured out like what men want to their core and i think i don't think people are as unique as we think we are i think we're all the same i think you could all boil boil it down to like animal nature we're very simple we all want the same things deep down um and then people like tate or patrice kind of simplify it and then make it uh applicable to everybody and so i like listening to them because they have more stuff than me figured out.
Starting point is 00:43:06 They're older, they have more experience, they've had more money. So it's like, I can listen to them. They've thought about it for longer. Yeah, for sure. They bailed on someone else that you bailed on or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, well, but there, I mean, there is,
Starting point is 00:43:17 that is like the craziest part of all the, you know, the way things got wild in the last five years is the like denial that the men and women are different. That's just the base level. It's so fucking annoying. We were talking about this, but I was saying to you, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:43:33 you could probably get a scenario where you could smash a bit and it's like whatever. And it's like, well, why would it work one way and not the other way? It's like, because if you actually look at how people work and not every single guy, not every single girl, yes, girls are not like they weren't put on this earth to like spread seed every day.
Starting point is 00:43:51 It's like they actually just don't biologically have those same like imperatives. Yeah, for sure. I mean, it's just a different requirement. Like women are fucking forced to deal with a kid if they get knocked up. Exactly. Guys can just go. What do you think that your philosophy on like you said that you think i've figured it out with like the the way people really are no no i i think that i didn't i think that i said that uh you were like trying to figure out if there's like
Starting point is 00:44:15 a perfect way to live your life like it seems well i just think you're a curious guy so it seems like you're like there's it's almost like you're just like i can beat the system like you know what i mean well yeah i want that's how you get i mean? Well, yeah, that's how you get, I can beat the house. Yeah. That's how you get, you have beat the house in some other way. So there's like this, I feel like I could beat the house in this.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Well, why can't I beat the house in the relationships? Why can't, and you kind of can, I just don't want to conform to anything, but I'm right. And I'll just say this one last thing. And the last part of that,
Starting point is 00:44:41 that I was saying was I, one thing that I feel like with personal relationships is as much as you hack them, there is no perfect one. Like there's no – at least I feel there isn't really like a perfect one. They all have pluses and minuses. What do you think – I see a lot of like the same message from your skits that I try to say in my videos and stuff like that and like kind of call out the bullshit. But you guys have a more like lighthearted take on it. But every skit you see, what'd you mean?
Starting point is 00:45:10 That's a Canadian to you. Um, what do you, what do you think the truth is? Like the red pill, people say red pill is like the truth and they accept the reality of the world. It goes bigger than women, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I don't know if I believe that, but they're, they're saying like guys like on fresh and fit will say that you need to accept the reality of like how money works, how people work and how women work. So that's how you what do you think that is? Well, the problem not I would say that it's a moving target. And that's why it's like think about even if you're talking about my videos, a lot of times we're pointing out, you know, where things have gone too crazy.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Right. So let's say, for example, you are pointing out like, you know, women are out of control right now. Right. And then that becomes like doctrine of like, hey, this movement, we're only pointing at this. And then it maybe changes. And then in five years, it was actually you have it wasn't that out of control and people get set in their way. So I think that it's always a moving target. So I think that it's always a moving target and with stand up,
Starting point is 00:46:03 you know, or, or doing podcasts or doing streams or anything, you kind of feel like, Hey, this thing that I was saying a year ago that I felt like I was getting pushback. Now everyone thinks I shouldn't be like, I'm everyone already agrees with me now.
Starting point is 00:46:16 You know what? I need to like move on. Yeah. Well, they're not truisms. They're just in the moment. It's a shit goes so far where you're pointing out these things, but you know,
Starting point is 00:46:24 if you say in five years or you take that you know idea you have them go five years that's how you get to be the comedian that's pointing out how crazy the Catholic Church is
Starting point is 00:46:32 you know what I mean and you're like yeah this is like almost hack everyone's saying it not that you can't make a good joke about it but it's like
Starting point is 00:46:38 it's like a moving target to point out the prophecy oh yeah I mean for sure if that makes sense you don't have any specific ideology about the world you kind of just try to point out the bullshit well no i do okay so i see what you're saying okay what's yours so i can kind of like know what you're talking about
Starting point is 00:46:52 and then maybe tell you mine um my my core philosophy on the world yeah uh it's hard to describe but i think the defining i could define it by like a lot of people add a bunch of stuff to their personality because they need to feel special. And people used to have to earn their respect, and now you could just kind of declare your respect. Like, I'm this. And now people are like, you're brave, but you didn't do anything. But do they actually get the respect, or do they just get to pretend they do? There's different systems, right?
Starting point is 00:47:24 So the game they're playing, they do. They get respect from other BLMm people who have put blm in their bio it's like a signal to other people so they get respect from those like oh you're smart you're woke you have the right opinion and so they get a sense of self-esteem from being on the right side of history yeah and that is bullshit and then that just like if but i mean yeah just like if you're a punk like who's the guy who has the biggest mohawk? Every movement has its signs of devotion. At least you grew the mohawk. That took time. BLM took sheet A.
Starting point is 00:47:52 It didn't do anything. You got to style it. You got to gel it. It looks cool. Yeah, there's some effort put into this. You know what I'm saying? Something. Well, you got to have this one.
Starting point is 00:47:59 You got to go on Twitter. You got to find someone. You got to quote tweet them. Write some windows in your regular life. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, I regular life. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:48:06 That's my core philosophy about the nature of the world right now. Do you think that that's close to what you guys are doing with your- I think your core philosophy was that the nature of the world is based on people trying to achieve status through fake ways. It's all power games. Excepting that everybody wants power. Everybody wants power and there's different ways to achieve it. Nowadays, it's easier than ever to get power just by putting blm in your body temporarily and it's hard it's more harder to go against that stream by saying like i'm not doing
Starting point is 00:48:34 that and then you're just like because because then instantly you go someone's like you know i'm someone who goes and declares i'm not racist and then if you don't say i'm not racist and they're like so what you're racist then yeah why are you not saying you're not racist you go well i'm not well now declare like say it yeah exactly well it's just it's a little yeah it's a power game it's a game but then there's i think my core like philosophies are generally somewhat you know individualist like even when i when i'm like kind of talking to people and I don't know if we're like necessarily like giving advice all the time but I do you know I was big I'm big into a lot of you know kind of advice podcasts and lifestyle design and how to like you know kind of how to live your life or
Starting point is 00:49:15 whatever some degree right and I do think that uh a lot of times I'm like do what benefits you you know how do you how do you get what you want and obviously that in a lot of ways does help other people i guess that's you know sort of like objectivist kind of stuff or whatever but in terms of how to live your life a lot of times i'm like it's not a lot of people right now that notice a lot of what's crazy the next thing is like and now now you need to fight it you know what i mean go stand up for what you believe in at your job go do this go do that you know you need to fight this like evil of the world and there are times where yeah you do and there is
Starting point is 00:49:56 like a place for virtue but there's also you know this is going there's this always going to be going on forever and there will always be a version of this. So don't become a soldier in someone else's fight. So I think to some degree. Yeah, I mean, I was. I feel like, you know, like right now, to some degree, yeah, you could like, I could develop what would be soldiers and be like, I'm the head of this army. You could start a cult right now if you want to.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Right, but I don't want to, and my message is don't join cults. And we've seen so many like people get stuck in these feedback loops where they like say one thing that a group of people thinks and then those people are like yeah you're our guy and then they're like if you just keep saying the thing that we want you to say we'll support you we'll support you and you can keep being our guy and then they're like that was just like an idea i had like i want i'm not this is my not my identity but then they make it their identity because there's this whole group of people who are like we'll support you get invalidated and you're getting money from it yes but that's a trend and it ends and then those people will whatever you're fucking say like you know whatever
Starting point is 00:50:54 you're proselytizing goes away it ends and then those people you either like what you're saying like if you're like the uh the occupy wall street guy yeah whatever and then yeah like what's the occupy wall street guy doing he's on to something else and and if he stuck to it then everybody left him they like abandoned him so uh yeah i don't know you gotta just really have a good idea of like ready for something funny the guy who called me a cook is uh his he's literally a cult leader literally what's the cult um it's this it's a self-improvement cult like his bio on instagram is that is word for word cult leader and then the discord is is a cult like you need to join the cult you need to put your height your weight so a lot of dudes like need like a father figure
Starting point is 00:51:34 kind of thing and they find one with an internet dad i mean that was kind of patrice it was kind of like my like joe rogan for a while like back in college i used to listen to him every day i guess they gave me a sort of guidance but it wasn't like blindly worshiping them at least they were open to be wrong and they were open to have like critical thinking when you listen. Guys like this are like, I'm right. Listen to me.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I follow me. And they're like, yes, yes. Here's the Bible. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it is. It's literally religion. It's religion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Well, because religion is going away. People need some sort of something now. And it's just like, which became the woke stuff. And then other people are trying to, you know, there's other versions of like oh you don't need that bible i'll show you a better bible yeah but i mean the stuff a lot like the gender like that is religious zealotry like to a t it's just in a different i always do feel like and i guess my my uh like philosophy underneath is kind of arrogant too but i was like to degree, I don't think like no one needs religion.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I'm like, I think people actually do. I'm just like, I don't. Like, I think that about a lot of social norms. I'm like, the world probably would be better without social norms. I, however, do not need them. But at the end of the day, you know. I kind of agree with that.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah. You don't believe in God or nothing, right? Not really. You're an atheist too? I don't know if atheist is the right word. Honestly i'm i just it's not something i concern myself with do if you had gun to my head do i believe in god probably not so you're both honestly yeah you're both atheists but you don't like that word because it sounds no it's not even no i guess atheist means it's more agnostic i really don't care like if there's a god great if there's not
Starting point is 00:53:02 don't i just don't care it's not. Some people spend so much time thinking about it. They're like really like occupied with like what's after this and what's everything mean. And I guess there's a negative connotation with atheists. You sound like a cringy Redditor who's just like, but, but again, no, but there is also atheism was cool 10 years ago or 20 years ago or whatever. And then like, just like everything's so cyclical where people are like atheists. They're like, oh man, that's so fucking fringe like the catholic church is like a big deal blah blah and then it just it goes to just goes through these cycles where now you're just
Starting point is 00:53:31 like i thought it just means not believing in god atheism means you definitively know there's not a god yeah but nobody you can't that doesn't even make sense because you definitively don't know well that to me that's what the word means though you're like no i don't believe there is so atheism is your religion no agnostics like i don't know like how the fuck should i know how the fuck do you know like i don't exactly i don't but i mean that's what that means okay do you and you what do you what do you believe the same thing is the same thing as y'all but i'm saying you think the rest of the world needs that sort of guidance of religion because they're too fucking something they need either that or the state to know, it's either going to be that or, you know, the state to sort of like be their guidance. I mean, not to get too Jordan Peterson, but like there are some things in there that are like a decent roadmap for living your life.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah, it's a little simple rules, but your arrogance comes from the fact you're like, oh, the shit in the Bible like that gives people guidance is really simple stuff. And I don't need that. But most people need that or else they're gonna go insane but i'm smart enough to not need that i don't know yeah um maybe not smart enough you can get that from non-religious sources i know but he's saying that most people do need that yeah and the arrogance is he's like he doesn't yeah i'm like so i'm like a deity that i'm my own god dude i am jesus yeah that it like i'm so singularly focused on, like, what I'm trying to do. And it's like, you know, have you ever heard the people talk about, like, I think it was the coach of Kevin, Steve Nash, the wrestler or the basketball player.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Steve Nash? Steve Nash. But he said, he was like, when you, like, the people who are worrying about whether to do or not to do, like they've already lost. You know what I mean? Like, oh, should I practice today? I've already lost, you know? And the truth is like, Danny is a little bit on the money where it's like a lot of these questions. And I, you know, I think about philosophically as like exercises.
Starting point is 00:55:21 And also I do care about like kind of getting to the bottom of things because i that like interests me to get to the bottom of things like i like having those conversations but as far as like do i need that for what i'm trying to like do in life like it's irrelevant i think is what he said yeah it's just not something i think of yeah it's irrelevant but i i don't feel like this longing for you know either you know this structure like i did know that i i know when i'm not happy like if i have a real uh boundaries on my life that's when i really know i'm not happy like for example you know somewhere that i really have to be at this time and this time as soon as everything gets too structured i know that i need to find a balance that's more open as well have you gained
Starting point is 00:56:06 a sense of superiority from doing stand-up like making people laugh on a regular basis no i've gained a humbling like when i was uh young i was probably more cocky than you are like i was just like very uh cocky young child and never got cooked though no i did not get cocked but i've watched women have sex who maybe I had sex with first. How about that? Sick. How did you feel? Did you get any like deep dread inside?
Starting point is 00:56:31 No, and every time I was doing shit like that, it was like funny shit with the boys. It was always like, yeah, just like some fucking hoes back at the house. But how do you think your mindset has changed since doing standup? Or how this is? you can see how my mindset is like performing for people and then also he wants to know if it's gonna be good for him no no no well not not really i genuinely like wondering how it changed your outlook on other people because you kind of know
Starting point is 00:56:57 how to manipulate the human brain now you know how to like set up like and they start clapping about something and then you make fun of it and then they i mean that's more of a comedic thing i don't know about like across the board like manipulating i don't know if i put it that way i don't know like my i don't think my outlook has really changed that much other than like i thought stand-up would probably be easier than it was when i started like i was like oh this is gonna be a fucking piece of cake you know and then i was like oh shit this is fucking hard i find that it helps the way that you understand the way that people see you better. And I think for people like your personality, and I think that I have that personality,
Starting point is 00:57:30 where you almost, it's irrelevant how people see you because you're such like a, I'm sure that you've always been successful at everything you've done. So the intricacies of how some idiots see you to you is like it's not affects you zero you know what i mean yeah but then at some point like it maybe starts to and there is uh i think stand-up is like humbling because it's like almost self awareness that's probably one of the first things you'll do that you like were hard
Starting point is 00:57:59 like you know what i mean and you get the instant failure feedback the same way than kids that play like contact sports growing up, there's huge benefits to that. They always say that if you have rich kids, the number one thing to do to not make them assholes is put them in sports because no matter how much money you have, you're all equal when you're on a fucking lacrosse field. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:22 Maybe lacrosse is not the best. I'll tell you what. I don't know what to say. Just enroll them inke lacrosse just so they know what's what the reason i picked lacrosse is because it's fucking the most painful like that's the most like you're gonna get hurt that's why i said it that's the most injuries you got mad fucking armor and shit on all this headgear and stuff armor you get fucking slashed full they break like one in three people break their hand a season that was the most canadian answer you could have gave there was this yeah i mean i'm sure the nfl is pretty rough oh you're happy when you're on that fucking footy field
Starting point is 00:58:55 well i don't know what do you think the main thing that guys the biggest thing i think young guys like the biggest thing that people struggle with forever is how do i fucking get girls and then once you figure that out you're like how do i get money yeah yeah is that kind of yeah that's true or yeah the smart ones you go well if you get the money first you can skip that get and get a girl's part but then they get money and they take advantage of there's lots of guys with money and the girls will own you if you never did the fundamentals i think you should go girls and then money because then you're going to get money and then a girl is going to see. Better order for sure. I think you'll be less driven by.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Well, what do you think the guys screw up the most? Girl, I think girls is harder than than getting money because you need more self-awareness and confidence and you need more charm. Like money, you can kind of just go online and like repost YouTube videos. Like there's so many ways. Oh, he's like some guy working on a rig but you see i think that you think that like what you do is so easy because it was easy no well i'm telling you there were so many people who just made so much money off the amber heard johnny depp trial by making a new channel and then reposting it putting tears on the thumbnail faces
Starting point is 01:00:01 and then just fucking eating off that getting 500 000 600 000 views a day we know on rakita media he's crushing it so it's so but he actually does he's not saying that rakita media actually does like uh analysis no no no he's a lawyer i'm saying people who just like they just lift clips they don't even need to record anything how do they make money off you can get you can have it you could do text to speech and then have like a an audio recorder do the commentary for you they take clips from the moment like the moment johnny depp realized amber heard is a bitch like that's a good title and then you take a clip from the six-hour stream repost it maybe add some wikipedia fucking but there is they're all doing something
Starting point is 01:00:38 there though even though you say that's so easy you're like that but you don't even need to have a voice i know but that's easy to you but there's still a lot of elements. I think that's easy. I don't think you guys stay around. People are so, like, it's very hard for people to do anything. People are lazy. Well, yeah. But, like, that is a perfect example of kind of what I'm talking about
Starting point is 01:00:55 is you're acting like your level of not being lazy, there isn't something about that you were born with. Like, you know what I mean? Like that isn't just that we all the same and you have this like just will that's like, that's part of the fact that you're not lazy is part of your like personality you're born with.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I had terrible grades in school. They said I had ADHD. I was medicated from young age and shit like that. Failed a lot of classes. I was really lazy in school, but I think everybody- Were you lazy or you just didn't feel like that mattered? Both.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Both. I would fall asleep in class and hate school and just everything. It wasn't for me. But I think talking and doing this shit gives me energy
Starting point is 01:01:35 that I'm passionate about so I can do it. People are just lazy and don't even want to find their passions. I mean, I would say there's a lot of people
Starting point is 01:01:41 that don't have passions. Really? Dude, the most people- Yeah, that's girl talk. Find your passions. Dude, the find don't have passions really dude the most people yeah that's girl talk no that's the fun your passion no no this is what most people's female shit dude this is what most people yeah take fuck just eating the blue pills but uh just fucking bowl of blue if he ate the blue pills he would have been able to get it off that was the issue wow comes back around no this shit with passions dude man you know how many fucking people I know
Starting point is 01:02:05 where you're just like their passion is their kids or watching TV or movies it's just the shit normal people there's normal it's like you know
Starting point is 01:02:12 you have a family and then that is your that's their thing you know that's your focus people have nothing yeah but it's not everyone's special but not everyone
Starting point is 01:02:17 wants to be special yeah they do everybody wants to be special no everybody wants power how do you get power by being special no
Starting point is 01:02:24 that's i don't believe that you don't you don't think there's anyone that just you know is mid has a normal man honestly if you don't have a desire for not mid mid the shit is the shit that's a curse that you don't want yeah that's a curse that you don't want that and you are plagued a curse that you don't want that. And you are plagued by it. It is a fucking plague, man. I know, but what about the ego hitting you? I mean, it's the ignorance is bliss thing. It's like, there's a reason.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Yes. I know, but that's not going to eat away that I'm mid your whole life. It'll eat away at you. Average. You, it eats away at us. In a gated community where everyone's the same, mowing the lawn. Oh my, honey. Do you understand those people look at us
Starting point is 01:03:05 and they go, how the fuck do you do that? Like that life of just like, you have nothing structured and like, you know, you're- Fuck structure. You think that, dude. Regular people, this is a fucking nightmare life to them.
Starting point is 01:03:18 How do they like structure? Like, how do you start liking that? I don't understand that. They just, they are, they're mids. I don't know. I know, but that's something, like being mid isn't enough to not be mid. Like that idea. They don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:30 They're not. They know. Hi, honey. How are you? A lot of those people are like, yeah, I like thought it was going to be my professional athlete when I was 16. I realized it wasn't when I was 17. And you just give up.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah. But honestly, it's like, it's not a bad thing. Sneak. I'll tell you old managers they're not like they live bad lives they're just like
Starting point is 01:03:47 they're very happy they're if anything they're more happy than any of the people who are like trying to you know do this shit one of my old managers said something
Starting point is 01:03:55 that like changed a lot of how I was thinking about things after I was reading these kind of books and he was like stop thinking that everyone looks at the world
Starting point is 01:04:02 as same as you and stop thinking that everyone wants the same things as you. I genuinely think that. I think everyone's exactly like me. Yeah. But I think that's why a lot of girls, that's what one of the biggest problems with like all the, the, the, you know, one of the feminist things was girls that were different from
Starting point is 01:04:19 the other girls saying, girls are the same as guys. I want this just as much as a guy. And you go, and those girls are fucking loud. Cause they because they're like guys yeah and they start speaking for these other ones lesbians ruin feminism and the other women are like i guess like they're they're kind of like i actually didn't necessarily need that i kind of like being in the kitchen just or yeah some of them did like being the kitchen i like being a mother or maybe i like like fucking having the door hold or whatever it was maybe i just i don't want and they're like we have the same wants and or maybe i didn't want to you know fuck a ton of guys because i'm told to you know what i mean i want but like these it's these girls it's these like exceptions to the rule
Starting point is 01:04:53 telling everyone that leading the movement yeah yeah and i think that to be honest like there's these tim ferrissey guys that are very you know here's if you're in the top five percent here's how to be in the top one percent whereas a j Jordan Peterson, his kind of advice is more like, hey, your life's a mess. You're in the bottom 20%. Here's how to get to a mid. And I think that's a little more, and there's kind of, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:12 be honest about where you are and just try to be higher than that. I mean, I will say there are, you know, I've never, I've spoken to so many people who are like, you know, oh, you do comedy. Like, I wish I did that. Like, I wish I tried that.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And, you know, and that is something that there'll be 50 being like, fuck, I wish I tried that. Yeah, I feel like there's a lot that is something that there'll be 50 being like fuck I wish I tried that yeah I feel like there's a lot of those mid people who you were saying are happy who are living with no no no those people also
Starting point is 01:05:30 who live with what if but those people also exist the what if they're not in the I think that's every mid person not in the meaty middle no because not every you feel sorry
Starting point is 01:05:39 you walk down the street and you see someone working at like a hot dog stand you're like fucking I don't feel sorry but you know they wanted to play brother they had some dreams of like playing fucking i guess the problem is is that we have dreams that are achievable where like i guess your average dream will be like i want to be a rock star what instrument do you play nothing
Starting point is 01:05:56 okay it's like i want to be a basketball player you're like you're five but everybody has a dream everybody had a dream i don't think yeah but i think a lot of people had like really nobody has a lot of people's dreams is like yo like a hot wife yeah no but they're like i want to play in the nba you know and they have that dream when they're 14 and then at 17 they're like yeah some people's dream is like yo i want my dream is to have a man cave yeah yeah yeah i do i go back to some of my friends from like that i grew up with and it's like very arguable who's happier like them or a bunch of fucking city atheists not arguable honestly not arguable to me yeah yeah yeah no i don't think they're really happier i think they're more stable but i think we have like this life is more high highs and low lows yeah it's more exciting but
Starting point is 01:06:42 they're just like baseline you know give high risk tolerance yeah high risk they're sitting on the reclining couch playing the game it's just like it's just it's an easy you know put on the game drink a beer but if it's a dream here's the thing i can't do that i can't do it either but i don't like hate the idea of being able they're not don't say oh but you're saying that they're happier you really think that yes man they have person by person. It's not person by person. But that is not an exciting life. When you perform
Starting point is 01:07:09 in front of a crowd. I don't want an exciting life. Yes, everyone wants exciting life. You do. You think everyone's you. No, no, no. I don't think everyone's like me. But those same people
Starting point is 01:07:16 when they go skydiving, they'll tell their friends. They don't. They do. People have exciting lives like they want to go on a cruise. That's exciting. That's not exciting.
Starting point is 01:07:24 That's what they put in the family album. They don't put them sitting watching the game. They put the cruise trip. That's the most exciting. Everybody wants excitement. Yeah, but that's not actually exciting to go on a cruise. To them, it is. To them, that's what they put in the family album, the cruise picture.
Starting point is 01:07:37 But even though they're mid, the cruise mid excitement is the highlight of their life. So I'm saying everybody wants to do skydiving shit. Everybody wants to perform. No, they don't want to do skydiving. They don't. You know, what was that line? It was like, everybody wants to go to something, but they don't want to do the work to get there.
Starting point is 01:07:54 It's from a movie that I can't think of. Yeah, I think that's what it is. My problem is that. That's what it is. But that is, okay, for example, everyone wants to get rich in the stock market. Obviously, that's the ideal scenario however most people don't can't handle the losses like and their tolerance is that so it's like
Starting point is 01:08:12 it's not that they if you actually did the math they were like yeah that would be cool to be like a rich rock star but also like the potential bottom side is so bad and they're like i'd rather just like gam not take that gamble so i'm not saying that so don't in my opinion they're not happier they're just settling they're just accepting an easier life where it's just like okay they might think you're settling for all these like highs and lows and drama and all this shit i'm settling but i dropped out of college to do youtube bro that's no no no i mean settling for the downside in the sense that you're having all this drama and this chaos.
Starting point is 01:08:49 YouTuber is the number one dream job for kids in America now. They did a study. Is YouTuber one? Astronaut two. How many people would love to be in the NBA, like he said,
Starting point is 01:08:57 and you're just like, hey, one day of training camp. They'd be like, yeah, man. You know what sucks about the YouTube thing in terms of that is an always achievable. I didn't mean settling in that way, by the way. Yeah, yeah terms of that is an always achievable.
Starting point is 01:09:06 I didn't mean settling in that way, by the way. Yeah, yeah. But that's an always achievable thing. So there's going to be people chasing that for their whole life. And there's going to be a lot. You can age out of NBA. You can just physically never be in the NBA. But anybody can physically make YouTube.
Starting point is 01:09:19 But there's going to be so many people. You're 18. You're like, I'm never going to play a professional basketball. Zero chance. It becomes a zero. You don't have to give up. They're just like, this is not happening for you. And that's it.
Starting point is 01:09:29 The decision gets made for you. Whereas YouTube is like, how many comedians do we know who are fucking in their 40s, 50s? And wasted their whole life potentially. So every day that you... I think that's a biblical thing. They can't cut their losses. But it's like, Hey, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:45 this, one of the disciples died or something. Hold on. Let me tell this drunk Christian story. One of the disciples died or whatever. And then he came back and he gets a present or something like that. And then, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:56 he's like, well, what about me? I was here the whole time. Why is he getting rewarded? And it was like, yes, you got,
Starting point is 01:10:02 that was your present. You got to be with God that whole time or whatever. for some of these people it's like the best storytelling right but for some people it's like yeah well you wasted 20 years chasing some stupid dream that's 20 years that they've been fucking chilling with their friends fucking drinking beers with the boys you know working 30 hours a week some of these people going on trips like going to the cottage they're like people in my family love the cottage they love going jet skiing like they love it they're not faking that they do love yeah you know many people are like are like retiring when people their same age are like well i guess i gotta figure out what i'm gonna do with my life yeah because i tried to be a youtuber for the last 40 years retiring is boring no one likes retiring
Starting point is 01:10:44 well we're going in circles now but i can apply it yeah you're right you're right hiking is good i love hiking and paddling in the fucking canadian woods okay we have a fucking hold on that was funny dude um before i had one i had one funny thing but i also one of the things that i did think was cool was because when you got in this youtube game which maybe even relates to what I'm saying, it's like you pretty early on were fucking, you went, we worked with Mr. Beast and Keemstar and all these guys, right?
Starting point is 01:11:14 Was there, I know it may be a lame question, but like Mr. Beast, the biggest YouTuber, and like when he goes on Rogan and stuff, it's so kind of interesting. But was he like that? Just like that? Literally, it's great.'s yeah because he worked with them it's great to see him get on podcasts now because he gave me all that info when i was
Starting point is 01:11:30 working with him and he's like all the stuff he said on rogan were you in one of his little group things that he was talking yeah yeah i used to we we i've been doing youtube for a long time so like when i first started doing call of duty videos and stuff like that like he'd be in my comment section stuff like we knew each other from like age but you guys do like the skype things were like were you part of he talked about rogan where he's like we would skype every day like a bunch no no he had but i i went he was like this young intern i i worked i was in his videos and stuff like making jokes like helping edit like helping set up the stuff how'd you meet him from youtube because i was doing call of duty videos for years beforehand so we we had known
Starting point is 01:11:58 each other from comment sections when i was 14 15 like long long time you were on it yeah yeah long time ago um the quite oh so does he sound the same the stuff he says down the same but also like exactly Everything he says on Rogan was just non-stop what he would he's not capable of thinking about anything but YouTube, right? He's literally the algorithm like there's some of these there's these new type of people who are so fast man half algorithm Who are literally just algorithmic thinkers like their brains are like bro how neurodivergent how they don't even like pussy they don't get high they don't party they just work real estate they're online they're like i'm gonna go to the gym and be optimized and they're just like this is the algorithm this is the thumbnail the algorithm from youtube and social media i think has developed and kind of transformed these brains to where these people are just
Starting point is 01:12:42 fucking on it mr beast will never get canceled he'll never get exposed for anything he'll never say anything wrong he won't even say like anything there's never gonna come up like the most wholesome guy probably the most not even i don't even think he's gone on joe rogan my my my i don't think it's even wholesome not to say he's a bad but i think it's just i think he's smarter than that like yes he's a good person everything but i think he's so calculated like that's why he's wholesome because. Like, yes, he's a good person and everything, but I think he's so calculated. Like, that's why he's wholesome. It's because that's the best route to be successful on YouTube. It's not even that he has an itch.
Starting point is 01:13:11 It's just like, he's just like, I'm going to be the biggest YouTuber. How do I do it? I be wholesome. I donate money. I give away this. This is how I'm going to be the best YouTuber.
Starting point is 01:13:18 In my opinion, it's not like a natural, like, hey, I'm a philanthropist. It's like, this is longevity. It's the game. And he's topped into the main vein of how to just like like you know when you're looking for oil he's like tapped into how to just hit the spot where all the oil comes from yeah he's the best uh fracker he really figured it out yeah no but everything he said on rogan is exactly what he would say to me non-stop and he's not capable what you hear on those podcasts is what you'll
Starting point is 01:13:44 hear from him in real life he's not capable of talking about anything else he just talks about youtube a little an obsessed mind like have you seen that leonardo dicaprio movie aviator where like these guys are just they're almost um ocd about their work that's him yeah that's him and then so what what were the things that you like took from him that you need to be obsessed to make it on YouTube nowadays. It can't just be a side hustle, a side hobby. It can't just be a med. Yeah, you can't be med.
Starting point is 01:14:09 You can't be, no. You need to be overly obsessed with it. You need to sleep, dream, eat, bro. You need to fucking grind. Because that's the competition. Probably most things are like that if you want to be the top. If you're going to be on Wall Street, that's what they're doing, right? Yeah, but they also got to do coke in the breakfast and lunch breaks and stuff.
Starting point is 01:14:24 So do you but no Mr. Beast doesn't Mr. Beast but you can yeah but that's why I'm not as successful he's number one of all time I don't know if it's a good idea to be comparing yourself to the guy with a hundred million subs it is because we started at the same point
Starting point is 01:14:39 it's very comparable he was my fan I was making Call of Duty commentaries and he was like first in the comment section and then then i started interning for like i had started working for him like four years you're like the other guy that started facebook i'm the winklevoss twins yeah both of them yeah sean parker i'm winklevoss bro um yeah so no that is very comparable to see that we started from the same points making stupid Call of Duty videos. Sounds like he took the blue pill. No, you know what?
Starting point is 01:15:09 I think he took both pills. 100 million subs? Call him girls' host. Which will it be? But at least I get to speak my mind. I don't think he's ever... You're too mischievous to have that life. Dude, you, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But it's also a decision. It's also a decision. I remember working for him and deciding... But it's a decision based on your fucking, how you know who you are. For me, it is anyway. When I was 18, like, interning for him,
Starting point is 01:15:36 like, I had a decision. Like, he was a really wholesome, doing, like, teenager content, building Lego cars. It's like, okay, do I, like, call bitches hoes? Or do I, like, build Lego cars and be happy? Hey, guys. Imagine you just switch. Now you're guys, hey, guys, it's like, okay, do I like call bitches hoes or do I like build Lego cars and be happy?
Starting point is 01:15:45 Hey guys, imagine you just switch. Now you're guys. Hey guys, it's me, Sneeko. We're going to see how much of these balloons it'll take
Starting point is 01:15:50 to fill up this tunnel. Hey guys, how many Orbeez can I fit in my backyard? Okay, let's get it. Like I could do that now. I literally saw one.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I was going to go, I'm going to get me some fucking Orbeez. Cool as shit. No, but I never really like got into those types of videos. I just can't do it. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:08 You have a million subscribers on YouTube, okay? Yeah. Would you be willing to take, if you're gonna have 10 million subscribers tomorrow, but you can't say any of this shit? No. No, you know what? I wouldn't take that trade off.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Yeah. That'd stink. That would fucking suck. Ah, shit. But yeah, the best, like, I guess there's the obsessive with anything. And that's why I do say whether whatever you're doing, one thing that's a caveat on the obsessiveness is I don't think you need to be obsessive forever. But in most things, you need to at least have obsessed over it over and what it would say is like that probably goes back to like the 10,000 hours and and
Starting point is 01:16:50 obviously there is you know the combined things where it's like if you're doing something similar there's you know it's not the second things obviously going to take some of those hours from the other one but I don't think it needs to be forever like you'll see people that I mean the truth is like I spent my entire, you know, life making videos. Like the amount of times I've edited, spent editing is not 10,000 hours. It's a gazillion hours. You know what I mean? But right now I don't need to spend any more time on, like I still do it, but to remain at the level I'm at, I actually don't need to get better.
Starting point is 01:17:20 You can outsource the editing? No, but I can also like be on autopilot and work on other things. Like I'm not, you know, trying to actively get better at editing at this moment i'm just like it's like at some point i'm your build you're like uh getting better at things and at some point you're cashing in like yeah yeah but obviously you need to be tapped in if you're going to be social commentary you can't half-ass it or whatever but the actual skill building just you do at some point you need to spend like that time and then you can kind of yeah i've spent a lot of time on the main channel getting to a million like like editing so much
Starting point is 01:17:50 grinding out like popping addies and that's what i was impressed with your edits like i was like obviously the content too but it was just the way you did it it was i don't know they were like it was just one of those things where you're like oh who's this guy that's cool yeah i spent a lot of time like weeks straight editing like tons of all-nighters and now i'm just like all right i want to take a step back streaming has just been like raw no it's completely the opposite of what i've been doing so long on my main channel it's refreshing fucking you had a girlfriend and now you're out there smashing some new bitches for a little bit grass is always greener and then you yeah but i mean i think that yeah that's why everyone like a balance thing we're after then maybe after that for a whole while, you're just like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:18:26 Maybe I just want to fucking fuck all that noise and make like something good. Not that you're not making good things also at the same time, but like you only focus on that. You know what I mean? Yeah. I was waiting for the cuck joke after that. That girlfriend thing. I was waiting.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I'm out. No, I gave you my word. We have a body. So one of our close friends is like legitimately you actually know hooks jj leap from what do you what are they like how do you he's a gay he's also a little bit gay though so it's what you said yes being a cook is gay yeah he that's it you enjoy looking at dick like that's even past that part no he literally wants like a fucking dude to like comment his girl then he's and then
Starting point is 01:19:05 eat her out afterwards what he's disgusting he's a disgusting all right well you're new to the game and that's where yeah yeah eventually that's where it leads sneaker 2023 eating coma okay i had a i had a funny thing that i thought we could uh uh go through because this was that we go through these articles and this one was like the funniest one I've seen in a while. But so it's a trans man article and it says, nice encouraging men to pee sitting down to be more inclusive of trans men. So not every man is able to pee standing up.
Starting point is 01:19:37 It is time for men to take a seat on the throne. That's not real. I swear. That's something you wrote. That's your skit. That's a skit. That was my initial instinct as well. And I'm very worried about getting cucked, so to speak, by like.
Starting point is 01:19:51 By a fake troll. A satire article. So I did a pretty deep dive on the site and everything else there, it wasn't. The only way it's fake is if someone convinced the site. Yeah, full fake site. No, or like someone's trolling the site. Yeah. But it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:20:07 It was this. Well, we literally. No, but more importantly in Toronto, the Bunz Trading Zone. Yeah, yeah. Okay, you tell us. Yeah, yeah. So there was this, in Toronto, there was this like Facebook group for people to just trade shit or whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Oh, I forgot. It was like a barter group. I forgot about this. Yeah. Yeah. And so there was a, but people would just vent in there. Like for whatever reason, oh, they had like buns. And we would make fun of them.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And we would make fun of them. And there was this one lady who was like a great. I think I got kicked out of the group. I think you did too, but she was crazy. And she straight up was like venting because her son wouldn't sit when he peed. She's like, he wanted, she wanted him to sit when he peed because she didn't want him to get too confused about sexuality even though it's like the opposite obviously but she was like and she was a very real person this was not a troll this was pre people even really
Starting point is 01:20:55 trolling like that and she was straight up just like upset because her son wanted to stand when he peed and she's like no she's like you pee sitting down my mom used to want me to do that so I wouldn't make a mess that's one of the benefits if it's fucking 4 in the morning and I gotta go take a piss cause I don't like turning on the lights and stuff I always pee sitting down
Starting point is 01:21:15 I feel like that's more cuck than watching your girlfriend get fucked way more cuck I wake up the next morning and I'm just like oh I pissed everywhere that's what JJ he'd be like, you guys are fucking cucks. Like, you're actually a cuck. Or he'll call us gay and shit. He'll call us gay and be like, you're the only one here that's actually sucked a dick.
Starting point is 01:21:34 He sucked a dick and he's calling you gay? Yeah. He calls everyone gay. A dick. Many? Fuck yeah. Have you been comedy cucked? Have you made a skit about an article that was just a troll?
Starting point is 01:21:45 Not a skit about an article that was just a troll? Not a skit, but I think we have done it once where we talked about something. But I can't remember. Yeah, I'm sure it's the same. I've had, but a lot of people think it's fake. I've had people say this is fake and then go back and look. And I was like, find the art author. And it was like, some of these things are so fucking crazy that everyone's like, oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:22:09 I get tagged and stuff all the time where it's like, oh, is this a Ryan Long sketch? Like, you know what I mean? That one, word for word, sounds like a Ryan Long sketch. Show them the website. Who wrote the, who was it? It's IQFY.com. And this is by Jamie Bronstein, which is weird because if you click his- That was the only thing I was worried about. I couldn't find Jerry Bronstein's fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Anyways, breaking news. We think it's fake. It's fake! I called it. Everyone sort of called it, but I sort of did my research. It was a lot of people posted that and a lot of people sent to me, so I guess my name is mud, right boys?
Starting point is 01:22:42 So Sneak goes wrong. Women rule. I'll tell you what, that was a guy the weird thing about the jamie the person though is you're like what are they getting out of this they just it's just for fun you don't you're not those are the trolls you're supposed to do where you never admit that you did it well you never admit that you did it but it's not even like hey go to my troll twitter account to grow that that's a real troll just someone's fucking with people yeah they go it ends there i want no i just for the fun of the game that's what me and my friends did i we have a we've like we literally for the we've had things where we'll put like fake plays
Starting point is 01:23:14 on people's videos and then just uh like you know and then there's gas them up yeah the only payoff is them posting about it maybe once being like, Woo, I made it. Yeah, shit like that. Oh, man. Fake, yeah, or you have fake, back in the day, a lot of fake Facebook accounts to mess with people. Like, you get your buddy hyped up hitting on this girl and shit like that. And then before you know it, you just get him to send your dick
Starting point is 01:23:42 and then you can see your buddy's dick. Woo, woo, woo, woo. Yeah, he did. What were you doing in Canada? I'm kidding. I'm not doing that. Although, yeah, it is funny to have a fake girl. I won't say her name because if I do say the fake account's name,
Starting point is 01:23:59 I will be now liable for a lot of bad things. But there was like 10 of us us and we all had a password you never did that internet pranks i feel like you're in the internet prank era i did i got suspended for that at school i used to we just had a group chat and we would like photoshop like dicks on teachers and stuff like that and then this one nerd and the group chat like printed out all the pictures and gave it to the principal and then come on i got suspended and why he just felt like being a rat i think a rat i think it was the one kid that wasn't in it and he didn't feel included and then he and then he hacked my
Starting point is 01:24:29 face because we had a meme page together we used to run a meme page in seventh grade and then he knew my password hacked it and then print it out and we go in the principal's office and there's just a stack of papers full of like dicks and group chat screenshots it was just like oh everything crumbling how are you suspended from school for that that seems like you're like i was doing this shit outside of school uh i guess because it was about the teachers and it was like it was really fucked up stuff like you really don't give a fuck about anything back in seventh eighth grade that's like when you're really at your funniest it was just like some of the you it is sometimes when you're at your funny yeah i think it was the most fucked up shit like
Starting point is 01:25:01 when you saw it in the context of it being printed out in an office you're like yeah wow this is bad but it was funny when you're doing it i'm now that i was thinking about it i was just thinking about another time that i got suspended and it was also a teacher overhearing me shit talk about him most most of my fucking trouble comes from me fucking what danny said talk it too loud shut the fuck up ryan yeah what did you say do you remember yeah I had a teacher called Mr. Levine and then I walked up and I literally was talking shit and I go because I got I got like detention or something and then we were talking about it I'm like oh he's not gonna do shit Mr. Levine's a fucking retard and then he just looked behind and he goes thanks right now but no he goes yeah yeah he didn't but like he yeah it was some
Starting point is 01:25:46 shit like that and then immediately he was like oh let's go like back to the office and he was like oh did you feel bad like when the teacher repeats it not at that one i felt bad when i got in trouble i remember like one time not for the teacher we were shit talking a teacher uh and he was walking his dog like behind a bush and i guess he heard a shit talking him coming down like the path and then hid and stayed in the bush with his dog and we a bush and I guess he heard a shit talking and coming down like the path and then hid and stayed in the bush with his dog and we're like
Starting point is 01:26:07 fuck this teacher fuck Ted I hate Ted and we're like throwing rocks and stuff like that like I'm gonna fucking kill Ted
Starting point is 01:26:12 and then he comes in with his dog whoever said that about me we're gonna have a conversation and then we all we all run inside we feel bad we feel bad
Starting point is 01:26:20 but like the intention wasn't bad we're just like hate school hate our life and we're just getting it out and this fucking I don't know I'm gonna say word this guy's hiding in a bush with a dog to get us in trouble yeah that's kind of what were you gonna say words i wasn't gonna say the
Starting point is 01:26:33 the word i was gonna call him an f word but you know oh yeah yeah do you use the use use that word often never really never oh you had a joke about that when you first started but right but you can obviously right i say the f word no n word oh oh yeah and i was gonna call he was a white guy i wasn't calling the n word no i i guess i can i sometimes i could just say nah like what am i but you don't really say it no i'll dabble but like you're as black as drake uh drake's a he's a little blacker he's your dad black or he's half black what are you um i'm my mom's your dad black? He's half black. What are you? My mom's Filipino. My dad's half black, part Jewish, part white.
Starting point is 01:27:08 So your dad's like Drake? Yes, my dad's Blake Griffin. So can Addison say that word is the question. Can who? His son Addison, isn't it? Adonis? Adonis. You can say half.
Starting point is 01:27:18 I don't know. Yeah, I'll say it when it's comfortable. You're right. Is that a question? 25%. Can you say it? It depends on the context. See, I'll say it when it's comfortable. You're right. Is that a question? 25%. Can you say it? It depends on the context. See, I get the pass.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Like if I say it in a passionate way where it doesn't seem racy at all, I can get away with it. Just let it slip. You go hard R. Act like I didn't even say it. You know what I'm saying? Then it sounds good. Hard.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And no one will flinch. But if I say it weird, like, it's just like. Does your dad say it? To me. He says, he says the hard R more than the A. He comes at you. Yeah. I'll say, I'll say the hard R before the A. Ah, shit.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Well, this is fun, dude. Okay. And so you want to follow Sneeko on all platforms. Or Sneeko if you want to see the streams, yeah. I've been daily streaming. I'm taking a little couple days off. I'm going to be in Europe. Like seven days?
Starting point is 01:28:02 Like seven days a week? Yeah. No, I've been doing it for almost three weeks straight since I started but you know what's funny I'm gonna do it every day Sneako you know what's funny
Starting point is 01:28:10 there's a couple times where you texted like even when we were talking about this or when you were messaging me like a week ago and then I would like log on to YouTube
Starting point is 01:28:18 and I'd see that you're live and I was like wait so you're just texting me while you're live no I texted you literally like an hour before I went live I was getting all these ideas and I was like I gotta go live oh you me while you're live no I texted you literally like an hour before I went live I was getting all these ideas and I was like
Starting point is 01:28:25 I gotta go live oh you just okay you went live yeah yeah yeah but anyways yeah yeah do you schedule them or do you just go
Starting point is 01:28:32 no I'm just going I'm really good thanks man so basically just people are just on YouTube and then just people who are on who are just on at that moment
Starting point is 01:28:38 but so many people are on the same thing yeah but they always they kind of push people's live streams they do because it's good for retention the average person who clicks a live is watching for like over 10 minutes of push people As live streams They do Because it's good for retention The average person
Starting point is 01:28:45 Who clicks a live Is watching for like Over 10 minutes So YouTube really likes Live streams It's an untapped market really It's the future Well I mean that's Twitch right
Starting point is 01:28:53 Yeah but Twitch sucks There's no good Recommendation system There's no good algorithm On Twitch You have to already Be established You should be in a hot tub
Starting point is 01:28:58 Slucking about You gotta You know what I'm saying You can't really just be Yelling about bitches and hoes On Twitch You need YouTube for that Yeah you do
Starting point is 01:29:06 Fuck yeah dude Anything else Nah man Yeah Sneeko Schneeko All that Alright Yeah
Starting point is 01:29:11 Hopefully one day I'm gonna be doing stand up Like y'all too So I can get the respect Dude any The respect Anytime you fucking want dude I'll hook up anything
Starting point is 01:29:18 Alright Peace y'all Peace Boys cast The boys The fellas The lads The bros
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