The Boyscast with Ryan Long - BALD JOKES & TREVOR WALLACE

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

We cover the Will Smith slap situation and interview Trevor Wallace, a comedian and YouTuber. SUPPORT THE BOYSCAST: https://www.patreon.com/theboyscast Ryan @ryanlongcomedy Danny @dannyjokes Trevor ...@trevorwallace SUPPORT THE SPONSORS AT: Breathefum.com/boyscast - Promocode BOYSCAST For 10% Off Getsunday.com/boyscast20 - 20% Off Your Custom Plan Athleticgreens.com/boyscast - Free 1 Year Of Vitamin D & 5 Free Travel Packs LEAVE US A FIVE STAR REVIEW! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And you can tell our friends, and they can have my things when we're dead. But we don't end forever. But we don't end forever. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a special BoyzCast broadcast coming at ya. I'm trying to do like a special report trying to do like a special report bulletin yeah special report Danny's still gay
Starting point is 00:00:28 yeah wanna know a little thing that I learned what a tidbit so I got I always get patted down at the airport or whatever
Starting point is 00:00:36 right yeah but this time it was cause I left my belt on right yeah so if you leave your belt on
Starting point is 00:00:42 it goes around here and they give you like a real proper pat down and grab your dick or everything right so if you So if you leave your belt on, it goes around here and they give you like a real proper pat down and grab your dick or everything, right? So if you see, if there's like a hot chick working there.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Which I've never seen. So if you're at the airport and then you come and you see a fit honey working there, if you leave your belt on, that's how you get a little... What if you put
Starting point is 00:01:01 like a roll of quarters kind of just in your pants and then pull? Oh, you go this? You should still check though. Yeah. But you are right are right 90 of the time it's like a fat lunch lady or yeah it's you're always if you're into the lunch lady well i got a pat down from a dude so my technique yeah it's always i mean that's the rule is dudes do dudes and women do women oh really yeah they don't yeah you don't get it from the chicks because i went on my flight yesterday
Starting point is 00:01:23 and they always like keep the belt on or whatever, take the belt off, and then I was just like... You have to take your belt off from around your neck. Yeah, and then I was like, you know what? I'm just leaving it on. Okay, well, we were going to... And I got through. There you go.
Starting point is 00:01:37 This week, we have Trevor Wallace on the podcast, the great Trevor Wallace. And people know we did the Street Smarts video and stuff like that but we already recorded that but then the emergency happened whereas I think that it would be
Starting point is 00:01:54 not in good taste for us to not even comment well I imagine it was just not even a reference it would not be in good taste for us to not at the very least address the elephant in the room. Ryan's mom. And I just want to do a tiny moment of silence for the fallen follicles from Jada's head.
Starting point is 00:02:17 So I think that all of us, you know, listening to the cast, just want to take a bit of a moment here for each and every follicle that's fallen out of her hair. I stand with Jada. I stand with Jada. Some of the follicles have fallen out, you know, due to stress. Some of them were pulled out by Jaden's friends during a bedroom situation,
Starting point is 00:02:36 which I will not comment on. And I recently reposted my video. In bad taste, might I add. I reposted my video that jada's entanglements will smith and then it went uh did a million views on facebook in a day and a half and then facebook took it down because of bullying and harassment and i have never let me stress this yeah in all of the things i've done and i mentioned this last time i did that video i have never experienced more angry people at me
Starting point is 00:03:06 than the Will Smith videos. Yeah. Because I don't look at any comments on Facebook, but I have my messenger set up, so sometimes it'll pop up on my phone. There was a point where every four minutes, it was like, fuck you. You basically feel like Ari with Kobe kind of thing,
Starting point is 00:03:21 where you go, oh, I can't go to Harlem. Yeah, Will'ss i swear to god these people want me to die and they go you know all of them is like you think you're a fucking big man making fun of will smith wait till i fucking catch you in the streets so i'm getting every second so i think just a million people reported it because they're and every single one of them i should have taken my own advice where i go bald wife jokes are not okay not okay because these comments okay were you know you know i all of them everyone who says this kind of stuff likes to preface with the fact that like i like i like comedy right of course yeah yeah look i usually i you know and i like a good joke as much as the
Starting point is 00:04:00 next person right they're always sort of pushing the narrative yeah every comment was anybody going after you for punching down to these giant celebrities kind of that's kind of the best you go this is the biggest movie star in the world and the wife of one of the and well one of their biggest things is you're like they like to say you're like racist because you made fun of a black guy right yeah right obviously it's like and that's a big uh a big part of all the takes is the race component it's like would you make fun of kid, a big part of all the takes is the race component. It's like, would you make fun of Kid Rock if he slapped David Spade
Starting point is 00:04:28 in the face? Yeah. Yeah, I would. Well, that's the thing. Obviously, I'm taking the comedy side, right? And the video got taken down, but then I appealed it
Starting point is 00:04:37 and I wrote a pretty good appeal letter and I think I won it back in litigation. So the video's back up. Which is a win for the good guy for my litigation. To whom it may concern.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah, I called up my guy, David Rosenbaum. Well, the hate mail that I'm getting is hilarious, but this one was pretty funny. Just to read one. This is in bad taste. Why do you think this is acceptable?
Starting point is 00:04:57 This is abuse. So basically they're accusing me of abusing Will Smith. Yeah. If it comes across, okay, if he came across this, it would really play with his mental well-being. What are you going to say when he sees this and it pushes him over the edge and he kills himself
Starting point is 00:05:13 or harms himself in some way? You should reply, go, I looked at my Facebook fans. He's not one of them. Yeah, Will doesn't follow me, right? Yeah, Will doesn't follow me. Although someone was telling me the industry that he pays attention to all the stuff people say about him. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So my combined Will Smith videos, that do have 3 million views. So everything just bubbled up at the Oscars then. He had been watching everything about the Entanglements. He probably saw your video in that case. He probably saw the video. Probably watched it a few times. Well, they said if you can't make a career as a comedian without mocking or verbally abusing someone, then guess what? You're a shit comedian.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. So it's a bit of a newsflash wake-up call for me. Yeah, yeah. Who do you think you are? Trevor Noah? Well, so there was... Okay, so the first part, because everyone sort of, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:58 has all these sort of bizarre takes, right? And at first, I would agree that I was also like, this is fake. Yeah. No chance chance i'm like this i actually didn't think it was fake i i was in the non-fake camp from the girl in our group yeah in our group chat well you're sort of more of a you you believe the narrative slop no matter what right so i'm well i know what i saw i'm not of the person i saw so many contrarians who are just naturally contrarian and they go that's fake i understand because of the oscars ratings thing where you would lead to believe that like like if this was a live i saw i
Starting point is 00:06:31 didn't really watch either dude i was watching drake open basketball cards and then our buddy and then our buddy fucking graham texted me he goes yo did you see graham sent it to me yeah he goes you see this i'm like what graham's just sending it everywhere yeah he's just getting it out there and then i was like he's like you see this i'm like what the fuck yeah so that was the kind of what happened to me and then i've originally i said you know it's obviously a big strice and effect when people more talking about it but all of the takes of like this is probably what actually happened this is his bubbling up point there's some race stuff involved all this sort of thing right to me it's i've been saying this for like six, seven months.
Starting point is 00:07:05 It all boils down to there's something going on with this guy. Yeah. Yeah, and it's not this. It's like there's something else going on that we don't know about. Yeah. The same reason with the book stuff. We know when they were doing the books and every day there was a new piece of information. What books?
Starting point is 00:07:22 He was released his biography. Oh, yeah, yeah. Tales of a Sociopath, Will Smith. Yeah. And basically, the kind of bottom line of all of it was there kept being these weird things getting released and how he's having sex with, you know, all the girls are having sex, or his wife's having sex with all these guys, blah, blah. And it kept being like, are they releasing this to sell more books? Like, it felt like someone's weird.
Starting point is 00:07:45 So some of the weird takes people, it's Illuminati that he's getting in the Illuminati, so basically they have to make you do humiliations. You gotta go slap Chris Rock? Does Chris Rock get in? No, no, no, it's all about humiliation. Some people were saying that Pfizer owns the patent on jalapeno.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I saw that, I saw that one. I got tagged in that because Pfizer was sponsoring the fucking thing. And then someone's like, here's this thing from 2015. So this is kind of what they're saying. But I honestly don't think, like Will Smith doesn't behave like a human being behaves, right? He's a Scientologist, right? Scientologist.
Starting point is 00:08:17 He does all this stuff where he talks about himself in the third person. I remember this old, it was like this old interview. He was like, you know, Will Smith isn't really a person. Will Smith is an idea. And the way he talks, he talks about himself like he's like the Hulkster. Yeah. He's an essence. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:29 He talks about himself like he's a wrestler. He goes, Will Smith's just an idea. And then he's crying and you go, you don't believe the tears. You know, none of it's believable. I don't believe that he was mad when he was, you know, when he's sitting there yelling, he goes, you leave my wife. It was reeked of a guy pretending to be a tough guy that wasn't actually like i don't believe any of it i well i think he was mad like what what is his thought
Starting point is 00:08:50 maybe he's pretending to be mad it feels like a sociopath that must be he must have legitimate some sort of anger issues i don't know how do you not how do you not be like yo i'm gonna fucking like chris rock at you know 50 20 minutes later in the back or whatever, you go up to him, you're like, yo, what the fuck was that, dude? And you like handle it like normal people do. If you're that mad about it. If you're that mad about it. But I, see, my thing is I don't believe that he's that,
Starting point is 00:09:14 I don't believe these celebrities. Maybe I'm just too cynical, but I'm watching this and I go, this is a big- So what do you think then? I think that he- Do you think it was a work? Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:23 That's what all the wrestling people were saying. It was a work. It's a work. It's a fake. It's a work okay that's what all the wrestling people were saying it was work it's a oh it's a work it's a fake it's a work it's a fake you're getting worked it's a work you're getting worked yeah okay do you remember um you ever been sort of like really drunk you're probably not as like destructive as me but sometimes when you're you're just like really drunk and like causing trouble or whatever once you would get drunk and eat a whole pizza but maybe you're yelling, like you're in a fight with a girl or something and you kind of think it's a good idea at the time.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I think that to some degree for him, in his mind, he's kind of like, oh, I think this will be a good chance to stand up for myself. So I think you kind of hype yourself up and you get in it and then you're like, I'm mad about this. But I don't, I think it's more like,
Starting point is 00:10:05 you know, you, it's not that he flipped and lost control. In my opinion, it's that he sort of sees this as like, I've been looking for a chance to show that I'm not. If you're saying that he follows the stuff that he's been seeing everybody trashing him.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah. Like nonstop and making fun of him and calling him a cock and all this stuff. And so he goes, this puts an end to it and you go, yeah, this is going to make it worse. Yeah, I'm the toughest tough guy.
Starting point is 00:10:27 This is a miscalculation, pal. Yeah, well, the best joke of the whole thing, I will award to probably all the people that were memeing the thing saying that to make him feel better, they gave him a statue of his wife. Yeah. That's my favorite joke. That's so funny. That one was doing it for me.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I would say the worst two takes was was this i uh sophie hagan's tweet i think that will smith wait looks at hands hang on i'm white so maybe i don't need to have an opinion on what a black man did to another black man because of what he said about his black wife maybe i should just shut up and listen she should shut up and listen and then if he comes to fucking hate you just remember you fucking stupid white bitch that he's black. Yeah. Yeah. He gets to hit you in the face.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Well, this take is, you know, and there's a lot of articles about this too, right? Cause there's nothing in America can happen without it. You know? I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:15 this is the biggest story. I'm like, this is like, but I'm saying nothing can happen without it, you know, immediately becoming about race, even if no matter what, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Yeah, of course. You know, but, but basically her take is it's family business. Family business. You see the, she's like what you know what i mean yeah of course you know but but basically her take is it's family business family business you see the uh she's like you know like if a black man beats his black wife like oh maybe i shouldn't comment because that's family business you know what i mean but and literally no yeah like nobody's i mean i guess a lot of people the marjorie taylor green one was okay so you said that's the worst take what is republica
Starting point is 00:11:44 representative marjorie taylor green the crazy q and on chick uh she goes i never watched the oscars but i've seen the will smith chris rock clip a million times this morning i have to say i appreciate the alpha male response of a husband defending his wife it was settled and then no more drama chris chris rock handled it like a man with no whining it was much better she thought it was two men working it out. Yeah, exactly. And you go, yeah, Chris Rock was absolutely stunned. He was stunned.
Starting point is 00:12:09 What, like, again, people are like, oh, why, that's the fake camp, because they go like, oh, Chris Rock, like, didn't defend himself. Why on earth... Didn't defend yourself. Would you, like, you know, put his hands up or anything? Why on earth would that be on the table
Starting point is 00:12:22 when you're about to get smacked? It would have been huge if after the smack happened, Will Smith went down, he made hands up or anything. Why on earth would that be on the table when you're about to get smacked? It would have been huge if after the smack happened, Will Smith went down, he made a joke or something. You know, you could say, I know everyone's like, oh, what if he did a joke about August banging his wife?
Starting point is 00:12:33 I think that would be too aggressive. Yeah. Even if Chris Rock said like, you know, something PG, like, you know, that's how much money I cost that the Oscars couldn't afford security. For sure.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Even if he said something lighthearted, I think it just would have been a nice pop. But he was definitely stunned. He was for sure. But sometimes your comedic instincts kick in. Well, they did not kick in there. Or he just was like, let's just get through this. I'm not about to tell him like, oh, I would have,
Starting point is 00:12:57 I'd like to, everyone would like to think like, I would have been frigging the wittiest clip you've ever heard, pal. No, the best, I was thinking what the best scenario would have been actually was if he was kind of like a joe rogan like he was a martial arts guy but not but like you're not a public guy he's just like trained martial arts and then it's because it's really like all muscle memory with the martial arts stuff right yeah and he just goes to hit him and then he just like ducks it and knocks him out cold or something you know like takes him down and then you're like or just like a steven seagal-y sort of situation too you know what i mean akito to him yeah and then you're just like oh shit i don't even know
Starting point is 00:13:29 i just dude can you imagine how embarrassing that would be for will if he came up went for a shot and he's lying on the floor and then he takes off his shirt and they're just like he's like all right we're doing this and then it just cuts the commercial that'd be nice for everybody they tried to censor it the other funny part okay let me, just to say the race thing, just one way that I'll already say that you know that take doesn't make sense. Because first of all, obviously, the real answer is you're just siding
Starting point is 00:13:53 on the side of the comedian, which obviously I would. No, I'm siding on the side of the guy who got assaulted. Okay, yeah. But for a joke. Yeah, but one guy got assaulted and one guy did the assaulting. It's like, yeah, I don't know if but one guy got assaulted and one guy did the assaulting
Starting point is 00:14:05 it's like yeah I don't know if you want to side with the guy who did the assaulting okay but let me just back it up if he went on the Oscars
Starting point is 00:14:10 and he stood up and he goes yo I just want to say that Will Smith's a bitch and like and Will Smith got up and punched him like to me
Starting point is 00:14:17 that's different it's not like Chris Rock was trying to make a joke if he got up there and he goes yo and I just want to say that Will Smith's
Starting point is 00:14:23 like the worst actor ever I don't even know who invited this guy he got us a bitch everyone's smashing his wife like if he get up there and he goes yo and i just want to say that will smith's like the worst actor ever i don't even know who invited this guy he got a bitch everyone's smashing his wife like if he said like i don't think that you should never have okay but i'm saying that i'm i'm not always on the side of the there is a case where you can punch people i'll tell you obviously if you go all you know you do the fucking bruce willis where you go in harlem with the sandwich board yeah you're gonna get hit for not assaulting somebody, sure. But I'm just saying, this was not that.
Starting point is 00:14:47 This ain't it, Chief. This was not that. Yeah, this wasn't it, Chief. So it's like the precedent is every Comedy Central roast is like, yeah, someone's getting knocked the fuck out. Every joke, it's who's getting knocked out. And the thing with the roast is they go after just people in the audience. They go, yeah, Andy Dick's here.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Andy Dick's in the audience andy dick goes all right andy dick's skinny all the skinny community we need to stand up and he gets up and just fucking goes and smacks chevy every person yeah it was ridiculous right but the um the race thing they always say that it's uh you know oh this is racist to sort of you know know, get involved or whatever. But I go, you know why it's just so disingenuine, whether or not they believe it or not? You go, okay, imagine if it was Kanye West, Candace Owens, or, you know, when that Republican guy was running for California governor,
Starting point is 00:15:37 whatever, someone that doesn't get in line with what they're supposed to think, right? Anytime it's that, they have no problem with all five like white men uh late night hosts teeing up on them one after another after another right of course if they're conservatives well but yeah or even you know kanye it's not even always conservative it's just he doesn't he wore a fucking make america great again yeah he was he's put himself in that camp i guess so but most of the things it just basically someone when nikki minaj was against the vaccine stuff for a second it's like they had no problem with yeah you know fallon kimmel uh colbert you know it's anybody's like heterodox yeah all the five white men late night hosts would could all like back to back to back to back to back t up on that black woman and no one would have a problem with of
Starting point is 00:16:21 course so i just don't believe they think that also it's crazy to think that you just can't have an opinion on something that's the biggest news topic in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true, too. It's the number one topic in the world. Yeah, yeah. The number one topic in the world. It's like it took, it's like leaped above the war.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Yeah. And you're supposed to just, yeah, ignore it completely. Yeah, ignore it. That's not my business. Ball jokes are a big topic, right? The alopecia community. So a couple of funny things things i'd say the last um it was funny seeing the videos of will smith come out of making the ball joke about someone 10 years ago dude it's almost simulation style where
Starting point is 00:16:56 no one can get away with anything every time anyone gets in trouble they've been 10 minutes they go here's you doing it yeah they go will smith they've within an hour they found a video filmed as much as will smith he's probably said everything about everything he's just do you think someone goes on film for a million hours when that happens though does someone just like go to the archives and they go let's just i guarantee you it's someone remembers it's always just someone goes oh you know what i remember will smith making a bald joke maybe like and then they go and they find it i guess it had to be i always wondered that with like the daily show remember the daily show and they would do like with john store probably do it now
Starting point is 00:17:31 but i haven't watched it but then they would just pull up like some like you know some politician would say something and then they'd like pull up from like a municipal town hall like 33 years ago him contradicting the thing you're like did you how did you watch every, how did you find this? Well, that's what this was. It was verbatim Will Smith being like, look at this guy, he's losing his hair. And they go, he has alopecia. And he goes, it's just jokes.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And you go, you couldn't have written him saying this more perfectly. I didn't watch that clip. I saw it though, like people, but it was the guy had alopecia. Yeah, yeah. And the Will Smith. Like people, but it was the guy had alopecia. Yeah. Yeah. And the Will Smith.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And then Will Smith, people would say, well, look, he was a different man then. He's learned now. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:13 because he's learned from his mistakes, he is now afforded the right to smack Chris Rock in the face. Yeah. And also Judd Apatow had a pretty banger. And he is. No. So Judd Apatow tweeted a pretty banger and he is no so judd apatow tweeted he goes that could have killed him he goes he goes that's purge out of control rage and violence so whatever his take was essentially that will smith was in the wrong which i think was fair but he
Starting point is 00:18:38 goes he basically said like will smith that chris rockett had died from the bus slap and i go i don't think it slaps ever yeah slap no there was i mean there's still debate people are still saying like oh it was a closed fist i'm like it was definitely a slap i mean if it was a closed fist yeah maybe i mean there's people maybe from closed fist but i mean that's the thing chris rock like you see him around i don't think he could have died yeah i don't think he could have died against the guy who played muhammad ali he's a big boy yeah well do you see okay i mean no you die because you get knocked unconscious and then your head hits the ground.
Starting point is 00:19:06 That's the cause of death in that scenario. Yeah, that's true. You get knocked unconscious and then your head hits the ground and you die. And that happens. I thought the take was a little extreme, personally. You agree. Imagine fucking watching the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:19:15 He just hits him. Chris Rock goes down. He's just like twitching and then just dies. That'd be nuts. That was pretty wild. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they'd probably go on with it, too. Apparently, they tried to kick him
Starting point is 00:19:25 out and then he was like i'm not leaving and they go all right yeah we tried we tried it's so wild we tried yeah it's i i mean jim carrey was sort of talking about this uh on a thing and he has sort of an interesting thing he goes you know i was sitting there when this was happening and it kind of reminded him he was like kind of he basically said it was just a a good like indication where he goes i really felt that when i was looking around at these like hollywood people i was like oh we're not the cool kids anymore no like this is not like you know we are not the no this is like the fucking mary antoinette like let them eat cake where you're just living in your fucking own world you're the emperor yeah you're just living in your fucking own world. You're the emperor.
Starting point is 00:20:07 You're just in your own thing. And people are not looking to you in a positive manner. Totally. Like these are fucking. Yeah. Yeah. And then, so most Americans,
Starting point is 00:20:16 they did a study of a bunch of Americans and it was equally Democrat and Republican and more than 50% Americans believe Chris Rock was to blame. So they said he was wrong. It is interesting. I've over 50% of people. That's where society is at right now. We're more than half of the people are just like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:36 no, Chris Rock. Yeah. This is one of those things too, where like it is how, how close is it to 50, 50 pretty close. And it is one of those things where it's like,
Starting point is 00:20:44 you know, a lot of things really split up pretty cleanly politically. This was not one of them. This was not, no. It was like, I saw conservatives who were like, that was wrong. But I'll tell you how it did split up. Older people, less so, and younger people did think it was warranted.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So younger people, which I guess that makes sense because younger people are more sensitive, you know? Yeah. You know the classic meme of the same. But younger people were not okay with the slap no chris rock side they were they were okay oh like because they're i thought older people would be like yeah when i was younger if you said that yeah you would get your fucking clean clock cleaned okay well i could see why you could see that but what actually happened was they it's the you know i don't know if you know this but they've been given participation i have i i watched the fucking jeff foxworthy so a generation of
Starting point is 00:21:29 participation trophies and i i think that's a very millennial thing that you're a you know jokes or violence right yeah so i think that people who are 55 are less likely to think that jokes are violence whereas i think your average like a 25 to 35 year old, it's more normal for them to say, you know, you make a joke about the alopecia community. Actually, if anything, you're lucky that it wasn't worse, pal. What a fucking disaster for the Oscars this was.
Starting point is 00:21:55 No, disaster. It was the first time anyone watched it, probably. Nobody watched it, though. Nah, the viewers were up. Yeah, at the point after this. Nobody watched the clip. Nobody was watching. You don't think they went watched they watched the clip nobody was watching you don't think they went back and watched the reruns fuck no dude people there's there's one good part
Starting point is 00:22:09 of the oscars and it was eight seconds long i think this is probably the most press are you gonna turn no doubt most press i don't think this is a disaster for the oscars i think it's good for the oscars i don't i disagree because who's gonna like you what you're gonna tune in next year you're like oh who's gonna fucking yes who's gonna get smacked i actually would be more like you're what you're going to tune in next year you're like oh who's going to fucking yes who's going to get smacked i actually would be more like you're not going to watch shit next year one they're probably going to be like okay well we can't have comedians involved anymore to be honest back to the james franco bullshit like ann hathaway garbage you're right i think that's where we're at where you just go you go listen you hollywood hates like any any sort of touchy thing every job is the most
Starting point is 00:22:47 corporate gig ever you should treat it like the only person should be doing these gigs should be the same person that's doing essentially like a gig
Starting point is 00:22:55 for a bunch of kids in a cancer ward it's a corporate it's a maximum maximum corporate yeah you're doing a corporate for Disney
Starting point is 00:23:02 like something yeah but anyways you don't want comedians. It's going to be way worse next year. I don't know why comedians would. I do know why. You know what? They'll get to host, like, I don't know, fucking LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:23:13 That is what should be happening. Get those people. Have them sing and dance. Don't have them do jokes. You don't. 60% of people thinks that you make a bald joke, you should be punched. Yeah, it's going to be terrible. It's going to be even worse right
Starting point is 00:23:27 but that is what people want and then it's gonna be even worse because then it's gonna be fucking just other actors like at least the comedians are a bit of the checks and balance on like the whole bullshit of the thing
Starting point is 00:23:37 because they'll call out like the real be like come on like what you know Ricky Gervais now that's gone no more checks and balance or whatever
Starting point is 00:23:44 you just have like everybody being, aren't we the best? Meryl Streep being like, aren't we amazing? We are so amazing and no one could ever check them. Round of applause for us. Everybody gets up and they just do a standing ovation and the fucking people at home are just watching this fucking slop.
Starting point is 00:23:59 These actors are no longer allowed to be made fun of for any sort of way. You know what I mean? Anything that's wrong about them, you can't make fun of them. So that's at a point where they will just be smelling their own farts to an unheard of a level. There's one fucking scenario where I'll watch the Oscars next year. And it's Donald J. Trump. Dudes go nude. Donald J. Trump is the host.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. It'll be a huge turn of events. He just calls all the women pigs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. It'd be a huge turn of events. He just calls all the women pigs. Rosie O'Donnell is going to come,
Starting point is 00:24:28 but we couldn't get the slop trough installed quick enough. Yeah, that's it. That's the only scenario. So this is one of the New York Times had a hot take. They said, Jada Pinkett Smith shouldn't have to take a joke, and neither should you. Yeah, nobody should. Nobody should ever have to take a joke and neither should you yeah nobody should nobody should ever have to take a joke it really is splitting up
Starting point is 00:24:49 it really is they should just have the same reason why they should have two Netflixes they should just have two different worlds it's like hey you get to choose sort of like when you're in a cab you get to choose if they want them to talk or not that should be like the real option you should have that at like university like you go to university you go hey do you want the ones where like jokes are around
Starting point is 00:25:06 or do you want the ones where it's like sort of like a simulation where everyone's nice to you i mean it's literally safe space yeah what we're describing is the whole safe space safe space comedy like there's comedy there's comedy shows in their participation dude there's comedy shows that are unironically called safe space comedy yeah like that's the name of the show no that's what this girl is giving me my fucking ass on a platter saying if i can't do comedy without making fun of someone and then you were like oh what are you triggered to me i go yeah i don't want to punch down on big famous celebrities by the way that video i was going to release a different video and i went to sleep the night before because i had to wake up to go to Philly uh hang out with like uh the Philly boys like Dadme and like uh uh Six and those guys and they
Starting point is 00:25:50 did their show nice and um I was leaving at 9 a.m and I was in my bed at 3 and I just finished the video I was gonna do and I was thinking about it and I was like I feel like I gotta make a video about this so I went I came to the studio at 3 30 oh really you did that at 3 30 3 30 i walked over here and i was kind of thought about what i was gonna do i kind of knew like what i want to do but i didn't know exactly and i kind of wrote it while i was walking over here maybe sat here for 20 minutes and kind of like flushed it out filmed the thing by you know 4 4 30 ish got home at 5 edited it 5 to 5.45 and then went to sleep and then got up
Starting point is 00:26:25 at like 8.30 to go to Philly crazy you just edited it on the train because I well I might not have internet
Starting point is 00:26:31 and stuff like that so I didn't want to take that chance but yeah it was kind of a weird little move that I was making but that's my dedication
Starting point is 00:26:39 to making videos to making fun of the fucking bald female community I've been on this Will Smith stuff for so much and it really does make me laugh. Man, I got tagged like a million times.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Well, because it was our cardinal thing that we were talking about forever. I know. We've had three episodes that have been mostly just talking about Will Smith. Well, I'm in some ways obsessed with it, I guess, in an unhealthy way. And then it's kind of like your little pet thing that you're sort of into becomes the biggest thing in the world. And I'm going to just not make a video about it. And I go, this was an option. Does this change for you whether he might be gay or not?
Starting point is 00:27:10 No, it didn't really change it. But I think that it's probably the same amount. Maybe. Yes. Yeah. But I think that a lot of these people that are worse, we're all saying they're gay. They just have like gay tendencies in the sense that I think he probably is straight and likes girls.
Starting point is 00:27:24 But maybe there's like he likes to, you know, on the down low a little bit here and there. Yeah. What would you do? I don't think it's gay to the point where like girls are icky for him, but I do think that, you know, he might have a little something. Imagine Chris Rock. He slapped me and goes, Oh, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Will Smith slapped like a sissy. Yeah. If he said something like that. I was thinking of lots of different things. As he had like right before he was back in his seat, like, with his back to him, he goes, ah, I know we'll slap like a sissy, and he turns around and charges the stage. Yeah, well, I would say that temper like that,
Starting point is 00:27:52 that's what happened to Jada's hair. He smacked it off. She's never full of heavy, bro. That's crazy, too. I didn't even know he was nominated. That's how little I knew about the Oscars. No, I don't know anything about the Oscars. I don't even know what movie it was.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Our friend, it was for the Serena, theiams sisters or whatever and then our buddy graham watching that graham he goes yeah he just won the oscar he's like this is insane and they let him and i go we won it for what and then he's like best oscar or best actor i was like what the fuck nuts right crazy yeah well this one says this this is a defense of thin skin is a defense of boundaries of human beings and enforcing limits is a repudiation of the incessant valorizing of taking a joke having a sense of humor this is like you know this high level that the society puts on quote unquote having a sense of humor. Is it a rejection of the exception that we laugh off everything people want us to? Or whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:28:50 So, preach. You tell these people that they're making jokes. It's also like this wasn't some work ceremony started roasting randoms. You know what I mean? It's pretty standard for the Oscars. The comedians usually make some jokes. And even sometimes the non-comedians make some jokes. ceremony started roasting randoms you know what i mean it's pretty standard for the oscars uh the comedians usually make some jokes and even sometimes the non-comedians yeah 100 and the one thing they said who is served by all this thick skin those who want us to behave those who
Starting point is 00:29:15 want to behave with impunity if the targets of this derision uh only had thicker skin the regressors could say or do as they please so so her theory is this idea of people being like, oh, come on, take a joke. It's almost like a conspiracy so everyone can, you know. Just make fun of it. We can just tee off on everyone. So everyone can punch down. Right, but what she's missing is you go, well, who is served? She goes, who is served by them being able to joke?
Starting point is 00:29:40 And you go, the audience. You know, the people watching at home. Who's served by, you know, having watching at home who's served by you know having celebrities make fun of i mean it releases tension everyone else who's not involved it's like for them they only see the person that's you know you make a joke about someone you go who who benefited from that you go everyone who found it funny that's yeah also do you know how much the oscars sucks to watch with if you just like that's's maybe one of the last things that's good. Watching celebrities jack themselves off is disgusting. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And you're like, yeah, they do it because it's still a show. Yeah, they want people to watch. The only thing that makes it not just totally disgusting, right? Yeah. It's just like they need to break it up, the fucking glad-handing bullshit. Yeah, so there was a lot of these where they go, and then she goes, we've also witnessed an example last week when a woman was forced to wear incredibly thick skin as she was uh during judge kenty brown jackson's inauguration whatever yeah and again you go well were you saying
Starting point is 00:30:36 the same thing when it was were you saying the same thing when fucking kavanaugh was well i will say i actually looked it up and she did write a similar piece about Amy Coney Barrett about how she took all this abuse. Okay. No, she didn't. Oh, okay. She did not do that. I actually don't know really who Amy Coney Barrett is.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Amy Coney Barrett was the last one. She was the chick. She was the woman. And she was a Republican. She's the super Christian Republican woman. She didn't seem to care about it. She was fine with that. She was fine with her taking a good old-fashioned Senate grilling.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Ta-ta-ta. Pepperoni, pepperoni, pepperoni. You know, he had a fucking show last night in Boston. Yeah, I saw the clip. And people paid like $1,200 to go. And he goes, yeah, I'm not talking about this. I have a whole act to do. I know.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Chris Rock's the man. I mean, I've seen him at the Cellar a decent amount lately. I've seen, one of the things that I remember thinking that was cool about him
Starting point is 00:31:32 is, do you remember, you know, like old Opie and Anthony clips and stuff like that where Patrice O'Neill would just kind of like bring everyone on
Starting point is 00:31:39 and he was pretty, roast everyone and there was like a few people that would kind of stand up to him. I remember Chris Rock came on and he, Patrice O and the old was trying to like hit chris rock on this and that and then chris rock was kind of like hey uh let me tell you how it works when we're playing theater it's like listen i know when you're collecting your check at the chuckle hut or some shit like that and it was kind of like one of the first times you ever saw someone
Starting point is 00:32:00 like big dog and it was kind of like one of those things where you forget how funny some of those like really high level guys are because once you get that famous sometimes you just like shut up about things yeah you don't really get in the muck that much yeah and he might purposely be like yeah he'll take a little bit of extra abuse and then he goes seinfeld's like that every now and then or louis you know be one of these guys where they don't really like they don't really get in the muck but every once in a while they'll just like dummy someone and you go fuck I forget there's a reason why that guy is such a popular comedian he's like really you know sharp
Starting point is 00:32:32 yeah you think fucking Chris Rock's ex-wife is pumped that's a fucking payday for her why is it a payday? because his ticket sales went up 25 times well she doesn't get half his new money they already have their deals set no? I thought it's like in perpetuity, no? You get a moving deal?
Starting point is 00:32:48 I don't know. It's a fucking... Remember the last time we saw him? And he goes, half of these tickets are going to my wife, ex-wife. Right, but I think that's the deal that you already make. I don't think you make a deal
Starting point is 00:32:57 with the girl that changes. That's just his earnings, no? No, I think you set the deal based on the time. If you make more money afterwards, she doesn't get that. Well, then sucks to be her. Yeah, no, you don't get a part of the earning forever you get whatever deal you made at the time i think she called this called her fucking uh divorce lawyer she goes you think i'm gonna see any of this can i get a little taste any of this slap money you think i get a
Starting point is 00:33:16 taste of this stuff just a little come on give me a little taste give me a little taste right uh cnn's hot take was uh will smith's wrong doesn't make chris rock right these places are such losers dude but the funny part is in their thing they're trying this is them trying to be like measured almost and they go neither will smith now we're you know now we're saying we neither will smith or chris rock needs to be canceled so they're they're like sort of extending an olive branch saying we don't think Chris Rock necessarily Needs to be cancelled No they're saying Chris Rock or Will Smith
Starting point is 00:33:47 Both, neither of them They're both wrong Equally amount, probably as much Now listen, I don't think Chris Rock needs to lose his job For his alopecia joke that he didn't write That's what I want to know What are you talking about? I want to know who wrote that joke
Starting point is 00:34:02 Do they feel bad? If I was the guy who wrote that Do you think you'd want to get out front and sort of take your credit? Yeah, I don to know who wrote that. Do they feel bad? Do you think if I was the guy who wrote that, do you think you'd want to get out front and sort of take your credit? Yeah. I don't know. Maybe, or maybe fucking Chris Rock's like, you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:10 oh shit. I ain't ever writing for Chris Rock again. That's the end of that one. Or the opposite. You know, you get the, the, like,
Starting point is 00:34:20 I mean, to be honest, it's like you wrote one of the most talked about jokes in the history of the world. Oh yeah. That's true. You go, who can say that? it's like you wrote one of the most talked about jokes in the history of the world. Oh, yeah, that's true. You go, who can say that? That was like a pretty basic joke, too. Pretty basic joke and out of time.
Starting point is 00:34:31 G.I. Jane, like I wouldn't make a G.I. Jane reference in my set. That feels very outdated. Yeah, it wasn't like a crazy, crazy smash hit. Did you ever make a reference that some people don't get and you realize, fuck, I'm old? Yeah, the one that was the most gl realize, fuck, I'm old? Yeah. The one that was the most glaring, it was a while ago, actually. It was when I started comedy, or maybe a few years in. It was in Canada, and I made a Ben Johnson reference.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Yeah. And nobody knew what I was doing. The guy who took the steroids and lost his medal. In the 89 Olympics, he won the gold medal, and he got busted for cheating. And then people were like, who's Ben Johnson? I don't know who Ben Johnson is. He had commercials where he goes, do you cheetah?
Starting point is 00:35:08 I cheetah. And he did the cheetah energy drink. So that was CNN's take. BuzzFeed News did an article. Here's what five people with alopecia think about the Chris Rock show. Did they ask Jeff Ross's opinion? Does he have alopecia?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yeah. Jeff Ross came out and he goes, yeah, I have alopecia. It's not that big of a deal like you can make jokes yeah yeah probably not the best guy well it's just so funny they call the alopecia community it's not a community the alopecia community anything's a community yeah yeah yeah shout out to uh former Toronto Raptor Charlie Villanueva what is he part of the alopecia community he has to wear a headband because his eyebrows don't catch the sweat.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Really? I was born without eyebrows. I'm a victim. Yeah, there you go. Right? Did you see the... Oh, actually, let me just ask you. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:35:55 Do you think the alopecia community that they asked was liked it or didn't like it? I bet they're split, but they're not split. They like the attention. No, but you think BuzzFeed had a split panel of alopecia people? Oh, I thought you meant the overall worldwide. No, BuzzFeed has five alopecia people. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That was a five for five. I'm going to give you a spoiler alert. BuzzFeed's panel of five people with alopecia weren't happy with the joke. No, I'm happy with it. I'm sure someone was, and they go, yeah, well, you're not going to be in the article. So it's not that common. You're not going to be on our alopecia panel of people that didn't like the alopecia joke. So that was the gist of that.
Starting point is 00:36:28 The alopecia community didn't like it. And then one more was the Stanford advocate did a thing where they said when Rock compared Pinkett Smith to G.I. Jane, it also struck a nerve in the alopecia community which 50 year old Pinkett Smith has publicly been a part of for four years so I am but she's had short hair forever yeah I know so she's only recently had alopecia but she decided to just have like a buzz cut for the last
Starting point is 00:36:56 30 years anyway exactly and on top of that I know the difference between someone that they're losing their hair and someone that has hair and they've shaved it yeah alopecia is like you don't have eyebrows she has eyebrows she has eyebrows and hair and they've shaved it. Yeah, alopecia is like, you don't have eyebrows. She has eyebrows. She has eyebrows and hair. It's just shaved. Like, you go, I know what it looks like when someone's bald. Like, maybe she's about to start having
Starting point is 00:37:11 alopecia. Like, maybe it's starting. But like, yeah, like again, Charlie Villanueva is like totally smooth. Yeah, but imagine someone that we know. Doesn't have a hair on his head. Like, shaves their head and like gives themselves a buzzer brush cut. And they go, yeah hair fell out and you go i can see that there's hair there yeah yeah i know the difference between a bick bald head and a buzz cut yeah you have like
Starting point is 00:37:35 no you have an army haircut yeah i mean again she goes it's going missing i go well i can see all the follicles so if it's going Maybe she's preparing herself for the future. Sure. But if she grew that hair out. But also, it's been her hair. If she grew that hair out, she would have a pretty nice piece of hair. I mean, first off, her whole life, her hair was like, go to the barber. Give me a two.
Starting point is 00:37:57 And now it's a one. You're right. She has a two. So anyways, my overall synopsis was that Will Smith is the weirdest guy in the universe. Yeah. He just keeps being weird. Keeps surprising me with those weird stuff. Never fails to.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I'm not impressed. Something going on in his brain, but you know, he's a tortured artist. He is a tortured artist. Yeah, he's so tortured. Well, anyways, we just felt like we had to talk about that. I felt like it would be crazy for us to not address know address it anyway uh he's our guy um we have a full another episode uh with lots of cool articles on the patreon.com slash the the boys cast and also uh next starting next week we're going to be doing a live stream on the patreon so we're just announcing that and every wednesday uh we're
Starting point is 00:38:43 going to be doing this every sorry the first wednesday of every month in addition to an episode every week on the patreon we're going to be adding we're going to be doing a live stream um for the people where you can do q and a's and talk about big hang exactly we're going to be doing a monthly hang in addition to everything on the patreon so if you join the patreon and come see us this week and also show in Tampa Bay, but this is our interview with Trevor Walls. He's a homie. Trevor's one of the funniest guys
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Starting point is 00:41:18 you don't know how a lot of things work he focused so hard on YouTube. He focused so hard on YouTube and he just like unlearned shit. Yeah. No, I just never knew stuff. What time zone do you think I'm coming from? From Switzerland?
Starting point is 00:41:37 I was just in Hollywood and in my mind for some reason it was the other way. Not LA, Hollywood. Jobs is special. He's in hollywood pretty big deal out there too hell yeah how was hollywood that's all right i was hanging out with some of your boys out there you know what's funny is that uh which i sort of respect and i feel like you don't do this but also by the way a lot of white claws going around too we were sort of getting kicker because we were flipping if you're interested we were doing um i see it it's very
Starting point is 00:42:04 on brand. I got you. I perform the Poland Spring Water. That was already open when I got here, but I'll go with that. It's 3 a.m. for him right now. It's 3 a.m. It's Tuesday for me. 6 a.m. on Monday.
Starting point is 00:42:15 No, there was, which I sort of respect. There's a lot of YouTube dudes that have clearly, they have money, but they still live in a house with five dudes and live like a college kid oh yeah oh i know that's my boy that's my boy yeah ryan all those guys yeah dude which is hilarious it's like a content house i guess i don't think they know how to like money works in their head like i don't i don't know like what they do with their money really like one of my best friends i make videos with him all the time, and he just has a Kia Soul.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And I'm like, what are you doing? He's just doing that Warren Buffett shit. It's Kia Optima. But he complains about it. He's like, oh, this whole piece of shit? And he's like, buy another one. I don't know. I don't know what the right answer is.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Nobody does. You go too nice and people are like, all right, relax. Then you go too shitty. They're like, is everything okay on the channel yeah and they're not comics either it's people that sort of move there to be you know make videos and stuff like that like i get comics where you go not you get into that lifestyle but i guess youtube not many people make it on youtube and they're like i'm trying to see what this 2020 ultima is looking like it's like it's either you go like you stay with your current car because it's like a good
Starting point is 00:43:23 luck charm or you're like fucking Lambo yours. Who's the dude who got the Tesla the other day and he jumped it? I don't know who that was. He was like a YouTuber. He bought a Husky? I think he was a YouTuber and he bought that Tesla. And then I guess David Dobrik did. He did it a while ago.
Starting point is 00:43:37 He did it a while ago. The new guy was a YouTuber? I think he was. Shocking, actually. I don't know why I wouldn't assume that wasn't a YouTuber. So what did he do with the Tesla? Did he go see the video? So there's this. Jumped it. I saw that. And Shocking, actually. I don't know why I wouldn't assume that wasn't YouTube. So what did he do with the Tesla? Did he go see the video? So there's this jump.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Did I saw that? And he totaled it. And he hit other cars on the way. Yeah, he was like ping pong. Imagine living on that street every night. You just hear, what's up, YouTube? You're like, honey, hide!
Starting point is 00:43:57 Hide! They're doing it again! Oh, dude, that would be fucking brilliant. That is sort of like a... Well, I saw that video and a lot of people were saying like, yeah, this is a standard. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Oh, I've done it on that spot. Apparently that spot is that where for years everyone's gone to that spot and they know you can jump in. Yeah, you can jump in. Well, their car got fucking murked. Yeah, no, he totaled it. He rode off a brand new Tesla.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Did he get like jail time? Like they for sure knew who it was. Oh, I don't know about jail time. He was yelling like, share, and subscribe in the air. And they're like, hey, who is that? You said like share and subscribe in the air it happened so recently that i don't know if they're at that point but uh i'm sure he got i mean it's street racing like i'm sure he got the everything that's so wild if you want to live over there like your landlord's like the one requirement they're like okay we just need to see some proof of income google ad sense all right. All right. You don't happen to...
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's like a tech channel, right? Do you work for Google? Dude, I actually was trying to get a mortgage in America with... And this is before I did taxes. Are you like a legal... Yeah. Yeah, but I didn't have any American income. And I was trying to explain to a banker the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Without sounding too douchey? It's the same. I'm fucking... You ever watch YouTube.com? You like trying to explain to a banker the whole thing. Without sounding too douchey? It was insane. You ever watch YouTube.com? You like trying to make it sound more sophisticated? Yeah, yeah, yeah. www.youtube.com? HTTP? Well, they were saying, they go, you have to have proof where it comes from.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And you're like, well, some of it's from here. And then I also do this. And the guy's like, yeah, this sounds real made up right now. You ever feel like a douchebag when you're doing a house or a car type thing? And they're like, I need to see some income. And you're like, oh, yeah, here's a douchebag when like when you're like doing like a house or car type thing they're like i need to see some income and you're like oh yeah here's a check from youtube and the guy's like whoa you want to see the past three yeah last month we'll cover all those this is straight up from google there's a few of my friends from here i think we had skank fest people were fucking saying that shit where it's funny because yeah you'll be dating someone
Starting point is 00:45:42 and everyone's like oh your little comedy thing is like some comedians will be like yeah i made a teacher's salary last night oh my god i have a memory like that that haunts me to this day and i want to work it in somehow i've done it on stage a few times but a girl i went to high school with i saw like three years ago at a target and she was in line behind me and just bumped in she goes oh hey trevor you you're still doing your little comedy oh yeah she came it was little it was little you don't want to disrespect somebody's career in front of it you need to be like oh you're a lawyer you're still doing your little comedy. Oh, yeah. She came at you. But it was Lil. It was Lil. It was Lil. You don't want to disrespect somebody's career by putting Lil in front of it. You need to be like,
Starting point is 00:46:07 oh, you're a lawyer? You're a little lawyer? You're a little bandit? You're a bandit gavel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I like that moment. Oh, you spread your virus. Like, rappers have people that are like teachers.
Starting point is 00:46:15 They're like, you ain't shit. But like, that's my moment. This girl that I grew up with who was a year older than me said, your little comedy career. You need to do all diss tracks about her. Like, yeah, take that, Stacey. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:46:26 You know how some people have, like, the good luck charm they put on their doorframe on the way out? Just a picture of her. And I'm just like, flip her off every time I leave the house. Just a photo of her doing this. Fuck you, dude. Yeah. Lil, Lil. Dude, Lil.
Starting point is 00:46:37 But it is so funny. I mean, it's like, you almost, you don't like when that gets brought up. But when it does get brought up, you're like, you're ready for it. My parents do that now, too. Right. Because this job doesn't make sense to anybody no it makes sense to zero people it's one above tiktok now the tiktoks are there you just have to explain you go i work in advertising i used to tell people i was not as fun yeah you're not as fun not as fun now i would always say director like because i was because i and kanda had tv shows
Starting point is 00:47:02 yeah so i felt like people could like wrap their head around that. For sure. And then they're like, what have you directed? You're like, uh, when Bay breaks up with Girlfriend 7. Like that's like that. Like I had actor in my bio at one point. My IMDB is stuff that I did like seven years ago on MTV. The Quint trilogy.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Yeah, exactly. She really said that. Emotional. You know what the worst one is? Is when people are trying to give you a compliment, but they underplay it. And then you have to correct their compliment. What do you mean? Someone will be like, oh, you're actually doing pretty good.
Starting point is 00:47:35 It seems like it's going okay. And you're like, I know you're trying to be nice. It's actually going way better than okay. Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, I was watching some of your videos. It seems like people actually like what you're doing like you're doing well you're like oh yeah i'm more than that the most conversations you would think with a following like me that i go to a bar and it's just chicks being like ah titties it's mainly just drunk dudes being like
Starting point is 00:47:55 so so what do you really do for your income what is your real now all jokes aside you can tell me what do you really one guy in palm springs i was there for a bachelor party because i don't know why the fuck my friends would pick that but we're in there and this guy was like all jokes aside you can tell me what are you really one guy in palm springs i was there for a bachelor party because i don't know why the fuck my friends would pick that but we're in there and this guy was like all jokes aside you can tell me like like what do you what do you make doing that stuff these days what do you make like you make a clip like a year probably yeah he's like how much money you're pulling in it's like there's insane thing to ask yeah it's the same thing to ask so i'm not going to try and walk through some logical thing like well this guy did this so I just lie and I go
Starting point is 00:48:25 yeah man it's just a hobby just to give it to him give it to him yeah I'm not I'm not doing good at all well it's the worst if you get suckered in
Starting point is 00:48:32 you say one thing you go I do pretty good on this they go how much and then before you know what you go yeah but it adds
Starting point is 00:48:36 yeah but like my manager and the agent fees you're like yeah it's a whole thing next thing you know you're defending but it is one of the only
Starting point is 00:48:44 careers where people are like what are you pulling in? Let me see them dollars. Let me see the accounts. And also, too, it's like if you want to, do the math on it. I remember I was trying to say, it's not like I'm not in fucking the league of money that you're making or anything like that. But there is one of those things where you do a thousand person in a city or whatever, right? Comics, no.
Starting point is 00:49:03 Yeah, but normal people, they'll be like, how much is here or whatever? And you go, well, I don't know. Do the math. Yeah, but like, you know how much the tickets are. You know how much the thing is. You know how much you think it is. I saw Tim Dillon at the Beacon.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And I go, dude, he probably pulled in blank. Then I talked to him. He goes, oh, maybe a fourth of that. So you think you know, but there's so much background stuff. Kind of, but most club deals are pretty standard. Club deals you can get. Well, from what I understand, theater is basically doing one is less money, but obviously you're doing less shows.
Starting point is 00:49:36 But if you get into two, and that's all because of the union stuff. Yeah, yeah. Those union people get paid. I got bodies that do union stuff. Dude, you walk around the theater, and there's like 50 employees. And you're like, everyone has to come to work for me tonight. This is too much pressure. I got bodies that do union stuff. Dude, you walk around the theater and there's like 50 employees. And you're like, everyone has to come to work for me tonight. This is too much pressure. I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:49:49 You can go home. Go visit your family. Hang out with them. Go home. I'm making $700 a night and I don't do anything. Yeah, because I went from clubs to doing this theater run right now. And you see the expense sheet. And you're like, I had to pay for towels?
Starting point is 00:50:03 Towels. So I can shower at the venue 25 for towels yeah i will air dry i know this dude who works at it for uh he was like he listens to our podcast and he just messaged me sometimes and he was saying he works on like nate bar got a bunch of different venues in california and he literally just dms me he goes yeah this is so this is how much this person got paid tonight he's just sending you the he just sends them i go why are you sending you should be doing this he's not like sending me like official he just goes yeah so just so you know like this is how much uh who's that lewis black made tonight and i go
Starting point is 00:50:32 okay nice dude i go sick he's probably listening right now but yeah i guess that's the same as everyone sending you their crypto winning but i honestly actually he sent me he sent me your body he honestly sent me one and i go oh, oh. I would have thought more than that, like what you said. It was low? Yeah. It was air. Honestly, if you got the guts. Well, you do the math.
Starting point is 00:50:50 You're like, okay, tickets are $35. There's 1,000 seats. Then you add that. But there's so much behind it with tax and the fees and everything, manager, agent, everything. Everybody's got to get a taste. Yeah, you rent the space, and it's like literally everything. And it's you having this conversation with a guy at a bar where he's had basically yeah the bar's closing i'm like listen man i'm doing all right all right all i ever wanted to was support myself enough to pay rent okay so that's all that matters to me
Starting point is 00:51:14 you guys just like so say the white claw line i'm all fucking i feel like when i was younger and i would probably be more i would be be more wealthy than I was when I was. But like, it's always a constant battle between not, you know, because you want to be, people think you're doing good, but also you don't have to pay for everything. Right. Right. Like people are like, I'll get this round trip. You get, I'll buy stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:51:41 But you know, you have a girl that's like, yo, well, why are we not going on like fancy trips and stuff? And you have to be like, it's fucking tight, you have a girl that's like, yo, well, why are we not going on like fancy trips and stuff? And you have to be like, it's fucking tight, dude. December's a bad month. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. I just sold out the wheel turn twice.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And you're like, dude, can't wait to go buy new vans after this. Yeah, yeah. I lost a lot of money on crypto that I've been talking about, or on stocks that I've been talking about for four years. You did? Yeah. I'll just be like, hey, why don't we do this and this and this? I lost money on this thing.
Starting point is 00:52:04 That's how you undersell. That was two years ago. That's how you undersell. People be like, hey, why don't we do this and this and this? I lost money on this thing. That's how you undersell. That was two years ago. That's how you undersell. People are like, Ryan, you're doing really well. You're like, yeah, but I lost a lot on crypto. That's how you humble brag.
Starting point is 00:52:12 You go, they go, you're probably doing pretty good. Pretty good? I lost 600 grand last week. No, you go, I have a really bad gambling problem. You just bring up crypto
Starting point is 00:52:19 and drinking and gambling and then they're like, oh, is there a GoFundMe I can donate to? All right. Trevor Wallace, rich YouTuber. Yeah, yeah, is there a GoFundMe I can donate to? All right. So Trevor Wallace, rich YouTuber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Loaded.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Am I the richest guest you've ever had? I mean, you literally work for Google. I work for Google. Well, you know what? On this topic, you probably actually could tell me this, because when we were talking about David Dobrik or whatever, every YouTuber, it seems like, eventually gets into the giving people money era, right? Well, that's insane.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I'll never. You're a full Mr. Beast, and you're like, yeah're like yeah i don't need anything well it seems like every there's a certain level that a youtuber gets to where they just go you know what i'll just start giving people money for video but it's fucked up because it comes from an era like like a thought process where you're like this will get views right like the first person that gave away ten thousand dollars it wasn't like i'll do it out of the kindness of my heart and then his camera guy's like what if i filmed it it? It's always like, this will get views. Yeah, for sure. Okay. And hopefully this will get more views than the $10,000. I'm not confused about that part. Like, I'm not just like, what's with these guys? I know what's going on, but I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:53:17 how is that business model work? Because you make that money back in the video. How? If you do a brand deal or if it brings... Mr. Beast was talking about it on Rogan. The Mr. Beast episode on Rogan was wild. I wanted to reinvent everything. But a lot of them aren't brand deals. They're just like a YouTube video where a guy gives away 200 grand.
Starting point is 00:53:37 You go, you couldn't have made 200 grand on this video. A lot of the Dobrik ones were brand deals up front. It would be like SeatGeek provides him the tech deck. Yeah. Tech deck? What the fuck am I talking about? That's more my videos videos i give away one tech deck what's up guys why how did i get tech deck out of today we're giving away 15 i'm three hours ahead of everybody i'm tired i just got living in the future yeah um yeah i don't know i think it's all now it's just a it's a category on youtube it started as like this would be a crazy idea it's a genre it's basically a game show it's just a it's a category on youtube it started as like this would be a crazy idea it's a genre
Starting point is 00:54:05 it's basically a game show it's essentially a game show and then they turned it into these short youtube videos yeah yeah but mr b said he goes like a lot of these don't make their money but some of them do super well and make you know cover that and then also his do you do the overdubbing in different languages i mean that was the one thing he said where he goes that's fucking genius where he's, that's fucking genius. Where he's like, yeah, most people- I'm going to pull my car over and be like, who do I got to- What do I got to do?
Starting point is 00:54:28 He's like, most people don't speak English. He said 10% of the world speaks English. Yeah. And so that's genius. And then he's like, and I'm getting the guy who plays Spider-Man to voice- One of the best Rogan episodes. It was crazy. I was just like, he's 23 and he's got it dialed in.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Every time he said he was 23, it was bugging me. Yeah. You're like, just lie. I'm 32. 23 is tough for that fucking monolith that he's created. Yeah. I mean, I would just like to clear the air. I'm not that rich.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah. I don't want people listening to be like, oh, this fucking guy. Hey, this was a free sweater sent to me oh nothing like a free sweater that's the thing no matter how much money you ever get it's just there's nothing beats free shit you don't have to wash it you just throw it on that's the shirt like a week why do you think i'm doing this pod i'm trying to get that new fellas merch dude watch you clip that part and you put that on the story trevor walls approves fellas merch demands it yeah oh yeah dude bobby lee gave me a shout out on his podcast and i almost clipped Clip that part and you put that on the story. Trevor Walls approves. Sell his merch. Demands it.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Oh, yeah, dude. Bobby Lee gave me a shout out on his podcast and I almost clipped it and put tour dates at the end. I was like, is that fucked up? Funny, though. I don't know. He would appreciate it. Oh, yeah. I just want to start putting tour dates on anything and everything.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Yeah, you have to. Just wherever. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. It's like if you have like eight at once, but they're promoting the one show at a time. I know. It's just so hard to promote Huntington, New York. It's like If you have like Eight at once But promoting the one show At a time Is sort of a pain in the ass I know it's just so hard
Starting point is 00:55:47 To promote Huntington New York That's coming up Some hellhole You go I can't make My entire social media About Cincinnati right now Oh yeah where you going
Starting point is 00:55:54 This is not coming out Until May 13th Is it No Next Friday Well the show's gonna be empty So Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:56:02 Well if you were there yesterday You caught one hell of a show Yeah Came for that fellas bum Oh hell yeah There's more in the future Always more Hopefully Well, the show's going to be empty. Yeah, yeah. Well, if you were there yesterday, you caught one hell of a show. Came for that fella's bum. Hell yeah. There's more in the future. Always more, hopefully. Okay, okay, okay. Things are looking up for you.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Hell yeah, man. Do you think that, because people like you, and probably a bunch, like Schultz is like this, and all these people that fucking run pretty clean operations or whatever. I always kind of think the era of the tortured artist is just over. In what sense? Okay. Like just like. Well, before there was.
Starting point is 00:56:32 One guy with multiple instruments and shit. No, I mean the person that's just like. The guy who plays in Times Square. Oh, yeah. The drums and the guitar. Drums, guitar. Harmonica. He's got a kazoo.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Yeah. And a fucking flutophone from third grade yeah that's what i mean by tortured people see that and they're like i'm all right then but then they'll tip the barista seven dollars tip the guy playing the beatles all at once no you i meant that you're thinking a struggling artist so yeah i wasn't saying like you know you and shawls people like that that are killing it like struggle there's no more struggling artists right like you got all the struggling artists are killing no what i mean is is that the there was this kind of like you know fucking just do coke and show up and do your sets and like all that you know the
Starting point is 00:57:13 rock and roll kind of thing and you're just like how would you potentially pretend you're that you go okay well i know that if you're running like a business you're doing this you're having meetings with your people you're doing this on time you're releasing this every week like there's no way to just be like I'm just this fucking drunken mess oh I see what you're saying like you
Starting point is 00:57:29 what was it get into the grief like that movie type of feel where you're like I just show up and I give them the art and then I go home
Starting point is 00:57:34 back to my crazy life I think on the highest level yeah there might be a little bit of that but comedy doesn't you'd have to be almost be an actor but before like
Starting point is 00:57:41 Sam Kinison and all these people I feel like nobody even tolerates that shit anymore though well that's what I mean of course you move on because every agent has like even in music it wouldn't work either even in music unless you're like maybe some hip-hop stuff
Starting point is 00:57:52 but for the most part they're just like dude how many of these people did one big album or one big special or something like that and they were just kind of famous forever whereas like you would do that and then in three months everyone's like okay well where's your daily clips and you'd be like i'm doing fucking go get a bathroom. And you're like, okay, in four months we won't know who you are. Yeah. Well, it's a lot of that. It's a lot of like you'll just get dropped.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Because you hear people that are like they used to be massive on SNL and kind of the legacy shit that you were talking about years and years ago. Doing the Fonny Bone now. Well, that, but like they're getting super drunk in between shows and sets. It's like if you're aging, it's a couple calls like that. They're like, we got to drop you. I think it's a little different because now there is so much talent out there that can be discovered you fuck up multiple times your age then they're just kind of like all right well you know what i felt like um in the there was like if you're talking about the
Starting point is 00:58:36 old comedy and the new comedy that la does still have when i was just there it's still for me and maybe not because you live there but it feels like like it does have this dark vibe that I can still feel. Every time I'm in Hollywood, I never noticed that first. And then by day three, I feel like the darkness starts to creep in. That's why there's so many people that you need to go to the beach and do all their yoga and stuff like that. Yeah. Even with the comedy story, I just feel this evil energy.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And I'm not that type of person that I feel like wins. I think I could be from the comics or of person that i feel like from the the comics or the people that are just going to the shows or you know there's like the city of angels or whatever just like walking down the strip at night it's hard to have goals and ambition when the biggest billboard in town is promoting like a snapchat show of like a 12 year old and you're like well what am i doing a podcast for when this is what it is? So there's the broken dreams element. Yeah. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:28 I don't know. Well, I forget who said it, but like the problem, I think Rogan said it because like, just like everyone there is trying to make it. And so it's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Even though there's too many people there trying to be famous, but I'll, I'll like, okay, here's an example. If I, if let's say we get drunk at like a show or something, the call me seller. And I just like, I rip home and i'm like walking at home by myself listen to music
Starting point is 00:59:49 sometimes i'm like pretty sick like you know i'll be like maybe stop by get a slice of pizza by myself something like that if i did that in la i would feel like oh what what is this i'm just like bopping around at 7-eleven it feels like you're trying to make it something that it's not please tell me you buy pizza at 7-Eleven in New York City you're saying oh are you trying to say that I'm uh it's like the people that live in downtown Los Angeles they live there because they're like I don't need a car
Starting point is 01:00:16 it's like okay well yeah how are you getting to Venice and Santa Monica I just Uber that's $95 yeah that's like an hour but like the people that live in downtown tend to do it because it feels more like a city everything's walkable in that area but it's like it's $95. Yeah, that's a fuck, that's like an hour. But like the people that live in downtown tend to do it because it feels more like a city. Everything's walkable in that area, but it's like, it's just not,
Starting point is 01:00:29 it just feels like you're not doing this. I don't know. It doesn't have the vibe. It doesn't have the same feel to it. I guess so. There was people at this, like the club I was at
Starting point is 01:00:37 and a bunch of them were kind of hanging out and everyone was like chilling and these people were just like, there was a guy, like a guy from Netflix there and people were like, oh, I need to like network with that guy. Like, hold on. I was like, do you know what? And were just like, there was a guy, like a guy from Netflix there and people were like, oh,
Starting point is 01:00:46 I need to like network with that guy. Like, hold on. I was like, do you know what? And he's like, I need to, and they kept,
Starting point is 01:00:50 it was like a table of like six people and everyone was talking about people like, oh, give me a second. I need to go network with that guy. And everyone was saying that. Yeah. But like,
Starting point is 01:00:59 to me, that would be like embarrassing to say. It's, it's, yeah. If you have to say it out loud, it's not going to go well. Excuse me, I have to go do some networking.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Right, doesn't that seem crazy? That's like about to be like, I'm about to dirty talk, and your girlfriend's like, what? Just call me a bitch already. It just feels too preemptive to do that. Yeah, it's really disgusting. Yeah, it's disgusting. So what would be the example out here?
Starting point is 01:01:22 Somebody's just like, they're just going to do it, or they're just not, they're going to see him as a human. No, here would be the opposite. They better fucking talk to me. East coast, west coast. I clipped you 3K last night. I think that's kind of what it is where people would be like,
Starting point is 01:01:37 that's a Netflix guy and everyone would kind of, you know, be in competition like about how they're too cool to even say hi to him. Yeah. Like I hope he doesn't fucking come over here or anything. I'll give him a piece of my mind tell him what's wrong with
Starting point is 01:01:47 their programming okay that's new york do you feel like there's still that hesitation to post stand-up clips from the new york scene no they're just not everyone's they're seeing a lot everyone's come around to every single thing everyone eventually really pushed people towards video which i saw i was like people who are the most anti-videos are now just like in their kitchen be like what's up guys we're making strombone and like i hope this moves tickets but i i'm all for it everyone does a cooking show eventually at some point they're like i'm gonna go on ig live tonight and we'll make a big thing is when real started paying people money and then all of a sudden you're like holy shit there's just a flood of just
Starting point is 01:02:28 i think well what it is everybody has one clip that hits and then you're hooked and you're like hold on this many people saw my stand-up my sketch my art you get it you go you're in yeah but more importantly for comics when they go oh, I just got some money from my reels. You actually got money. I got paid more than one video than 12 spots. Yeah. Oh, big time. I've heard bookers say, yeah, sometimes it's hard to get comics.
Starting point is 01:02:56 It makes more sense to just stay in and make reels. How do clubs pay out here? Is it decent? Yeah, you can make a living being a club comic. Okay. Will you also get up like five times a night? Well well that's one of the yeah you can i mean and that's one of the fucking kind of interesting things about this city is there's there's so i don't know it's the only job where there's a bunch of people there and for one person this is 0.01 of their income and for the other person that went up next it's like they
Starting point is 01:03:21 needed this fucking fifty dollars or a hundred dollars or whatever it is it's just such an interesting thing i always i kind of think that where it's like you know it's legitimately like fucking comic who needs this for rent and then you know chris rock back to back and they both are getting the same eighty dollars for the spot yeah do you think chris kind of an interesting dollars now i mean i i don't know i think you kind of just do it's like a tip i guess it just kind of is what it is but maybe maybe he doesn't but i don't know a lot of people there's a lot of famous people that still do yeah you know it's funny i did this do you know haha cafe and in north hollywood yeah yeah i did a show there and he like three or four months ago a friend was running it and he was like uh you can you come by do a spot i was like hell yeah and i walk in He goes, here's 20 bucks for Spine. I was like, ah, man, keep it. He's a younger kid in comedy.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah, keep it. And I ate dicks. And I wish I kept that 20. I mean, it was just like the crowd. There's a lady in the front on Facebook Live just with her friends, like talking through the whole entire set. It's just like nobody was paying attention. You try to set up a premise.
Starting point is 01:04:22 And she's literally yelling, at the comedy show. And I was like, I could have taken that 20 dollars yeah yeah you're going because this was a job at this point it was also just like if i'm gonna be sit through that and it's like i was trying to make it work but they just weren't even in the element so there's like eight people in there la comedy scams are like no others that one guy i think it's called Marty's. Oh, it's not there anymore, yeah. This guy would do 10 shows. This is when I first, like very first started comedy. I went to LA for like three months and did comedy.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And he basically does, I think, 10 to 15 shows a day. So every hour, starting from noon till midnight or whatever it is, they do a show every hour and everyone pays five bucks. So this guy just rents out this little space and makes a hundred bucks. You know, he makes 1,200 bucks. That was a big staple in the LA game. A lot of people came up with that.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Well, some people would go and they go, yeah, I just did like eight shows in a row and you pay five bucks for every one. And it's all just comics, obviously. Of course. And the same comics. The same comics. I'm going to change one tag.
Starting point is 01:05:24 We guys forgot that for five minutes earlier. Does he give you some sort of discount? You go, look, can I get six spots for the price of five? Yeah, well...
Starting point is 01:05:30 Like, are people negotiating? I think so. I think some people are in the mix with that. Do you guys have the pay-for-play mics out here? I don't know. I moved here
Starting point is 01:05:36 kind of like at a different... You moved here when you were popping. I moved here not doing open mics. No, no, no. Yeah, they do, of course. But they have...
Starting point is 01:05:44 Our boy JJ just moved here. Andy Dick's son was always there. That was the interesting part about that one. I remember just being like, fucking LA is so wild. Like, I don't know, it was just this weird pay-for-play thing and Andy Dick's son was sort of rolling through
Starting point is 01:05:56 and then some other famous people would roll through. I think like Joe Rogan back in the day when he wasn't like Joe Rogan, Joe Rogan. Joey Diaz would do this place called Fourth Wall and it was like, it was maybe the size of the studio not to hate on the studio it's a gorgeous place here yeah but he would like do it and talk about on his podcast and be like this is the fuck is where you work it out yes yeah you do it i like the working out in those little places but yeah no there is it is kind of weird that like there is
Starting point is 01:06:22 those mad tv people or something you know like chris katan and you kind of like fuck what's that guy up to and you go he's doing you know like a weekend and cincinnati or whatever and like and you all you know people like me go there and they'll be like yeah he's not like you sold way more tickets and you're just like what the fuck world it's crazy too because those snl guys if they just i think they they're in their minds are above youtube of course i think they're like but if they actually kind of i guess well he's a movie star but think about russell brand russell brand was he goes well he knows he goes i'm not above this and he you know makes it to the times yeah exactly but i think someone like you know tim like you see
Starting point is 01:07:01 like tim meadows or like tim meadows when i was 15 years old, it was like one of the biggest stars in the world. He's still in lots of stuff though. He's in real shows now. I guess, but he's still just doing club weekends. Yeah, you're right. Why isn't he like a big star? Yeah. And you know, I guess that just, that's the natural cycle.
Starting point is 01:07:17 And then all these morons were making YouTube videos with their podcasts or selling out like these huge places and it's so and that's so bothered that must bug them so much and i think they were like i'm better than this so i won't do this well i also think that they're like how are they gonna top what they did in the snl days for me i feel like it's like you know those machines you hit at the fair and it spikes up all the top yeah i think they're still riding that like that massive hit they're like people are gonna see me i'm that guy i'm the guy who did blank yeah i don't know i just feel like they're like why would i need to do anything else when my career got we checked off the box we did the yeah you did you did the yeah for sure right so i think they're just kind of
Starting point is 01:07:53 like letting it sail just smooth right now a lot of these i don't think you're right though i can't imagine that chris katan's like coming home from his weekend taking the flight home that didn't sell that good and he's like baby we're letting it sail he's probably not pumped about it he's probably thinking like fuck do I need a podcast like that's exactly what he's thinking dude night at the Roxbury was huge
Starting point is 01:08:15 they're still getting residuals I think they have more money than money is he has money right so it's hard to have nothing can truly make the fame well that's when it's darker when they... Well, it's not even the fame. It's the popularity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Well, it's not even, in my opinion, everyone's different, but to me, it's like you want to be moving forward. You know, whether whatever job you're in. Right. I think you just want to be moving forward. It's kind of like, you know, for girls, it's like that in the relationship even.'s always like what are we doing we're moving
Starting point is 01:08:47 forward beat that like the sml i mean again like yeah will those two people uh did night at the roxbury will ferrell and chris katan will ferrell move forward i guess but that's to compare yourself to him i think you pivot and do something a little different like you're a maybe you be a director and it's like sort of judged on a different scale. I think he did one of the Dancing with the Stars things or something. He did – Chris Kattan did one of those shows. The weird thing is when you get back on social media and you try to post anything that's like, oh, maybe this is a funny sketch. Everyone's like, that's the guy from that.
Starting point is 01:09:17 They can't picture you as anything else. I know. It is true. It's like a guy from the Sand Live. I forget his name. He has red hair. Yeah, yeah. Michael Richards. But the second he got on social media, everyone's like a guy from the Sand Live. Forget his name. He has red hair. Yeah, yeah. Michael Richards.
Starting point is 01:09:27 But the second he got on social media, everyone was like, it's that guy. He can't post anything without them being like, duh. And he tried to not be that for a minute and then was like, yeah, I'm that guy. And every video, you're killing me, Smalls. But that's a weird part. They put you in this closet of like, this is who you are. And the internet decides. But if you keep making shit eventually you will just
Starting point is 01:09:46 break through and be like I'm this person now but well that's the thing or get sucked into doing comic cons and just make just the easiest money
Starting point is 01:09:53 you're the red power ranger the green power ranger just sign up they have money but I think that is the difference between people that like make stuff and people that were in stuff
Starting point is 01:10:01 dude my first video that hit like I it was a character thing and I was like alright this is working video after video after video on that same character and then there's a moment where i was like dude i don't want to be just this guy let me start making other videos and then those videos ate shit and then i'd be like oh fuck do i go back to go back to yeah and every once in a while i put out like five that didn't hit and then i beg
Starting point is 01:10:19 okay let me go back to the the one that hit and get a little juice yeah but just to mentally be like it's like if you're bombing on stage, you're like, let me throw one of the closes. Yeah, exactly. So it's that type of thing, but I just so badly did not want to be like the one. That's the guy who does the blank thing. No, because that also is over eventually.
Starting point is 01:10:38 You know what I mean? Because people get tired of the blank thing. But think about like the 80s and the 90s. Those guys would ride that off forever. Dude, Dynamite? Right. Dynamite? Dynamite's still moving tickets.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Oh, he still sells. I see him from time to time. He's selling insurance. Oh, is he? Yeah, but he's selling something. Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Walker. I don't know. You have a point where you're like,
Starting point is 01:11:01 and you probably teetered with this for your whole career, but do I lean into the thing or do I? Well, okay. So do you know the book Tipping Point, I believe it's called? No, I don't read. I don't read a lot anymore. I'm more of a podcast audio thing. I think that reading is-
Starting point is 01:11:15 Big brain shit. Yeah. I honestly do believe reading is over. Reading. Is an audio book just a scripted podcast? No, they just read their own book. So you can- Well, I can listen faster than I can read right yeah i mean that's true true yeah yeah they told me i read a ninth grade level when i was in college nice that's not great you're like is that a good thing
Starting point is 01:11:36 well like a good ninth grader what are we talking yeah yeah potential road scholar yeah well the tippin point, it goes through, it's a Malcolm Gladwell, and he kind of talks a lot about this stuff, and there is a big debate when you're creating a brand or whatever, and the idea is, do you fuel that thing and allow that fireball to get really big really quickly and then burn out, or do you kind of fan your own flames for longevity, right? And it describes Airwalk as an example that, do you remember of fan your own flames for longevity right and it describes airwalk as
Starting point is 01:12:05 an example that you remember airwalk shoes yes okay so airwalk they use as an example of a brain that a brand that came out so hard and it was just everywhere yeah and then it was so saturated and whatever they were making they're like just you know pedal on the metal of that one thing yeah and then eventually it kind of fizzled out and you almost never hear about it i was like lrg that was like that was like the biggest brand in the fucking world i mean no more some other brands like chucks or whatever diamond co like there's so many that just popped in that same era yeah so what do they say about the brand it's just like because they went so hard on it it's about it is kind of what you want but i see a lot of people
Starting point is 01:12:43 doing that right now where yeah you you have something that works exactly what you're saying and they just crank it so much and you it might work but like it's very a it's hard to do something else it's a very like short-term play and it kind of depends on like what you want and how you feel i think sometimes it's like i don't know the more that you get because as soon as if you have that instinct like you do where you're just like fuck i don't know, the more that you get, because as soon as if you have that instinct like you do, where you're just like, fuck, I don't want to just be doing this one thing because it won't be fun for me and I won't find it funny. And then you lose everything kind of, right? It's a risk.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yeah. And it's also like a creative risk where you go, how do you, how do you sit down and like work 80 hours or however hard you work on. 82. Yeah. On something that you don't want to do so if you start making if you don't like at all listen to like what you like well then it's hell well it's listening to your instinct dude it's i mean it's really that it's really that's why i feel like uh everything's
Starting point is 01:13:37 like that a little well like think about musical art especially rappers that have a massive hit and now everyone's like like i was always big like grow your catalog like just post sketches post sketches because then when your shit finally pops you got 50 videos in the bank you already know who you are as a sketch artist you know what you like and then when it hits people have a catalog to look at and be like oh this is what this guy's about oh he does so many different angles but if you post in your first video go pops off like crazy now you're like where do i go from here because everyone thinks you just do that i know especially for music music gotta be crazy because if like if you're jack harlow right now what are you like do i stay with my sound do i try something new do do i get
Starting point is 01:14:14 do a leap on the track do we get different link different languages like it's so much pressure or do i yeah do i just try to be like the hollywood guy that's like really in the mix or do i i don't know but it's like with comedy you can be like oh it's subjective this video wasn't funny but then you can just put out another sketch in a week but like with music there's so much like marketing and label shit that goes into it like your next it's a year later yeah your next song they're like what's the next song from this guy and then everyone's like yeah it was that's fine that was the thing it wasn't as good as the last one. And that would fuck with me the most.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I hated that. In fact, if I have a sketch that tanks, I go, okay, cool, next week. I know. But you're not beholden to anybody. So that's just you. Myself, though. Yeah, yourself. But there's industry versions of that.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I mean, you know, whatever. If you're like a famous, Howard Stern, if you're a famous radio guy or whatever, a podcast, or if you were just a sketch guy, period, or a million things, right? But yeah, you're a famous radio guy or whatever a podcast or if you were a just a sketch guy period or a million things right but yeah you're right that idea that like waiting a year between things like to me that is not for me I don't like it I like this no no no because also it's like you're just feeling the fire you're just throwing more shit in the fire something pops right now fire is higher let me throw more shit in it but also I like my life better like that too because I like kind of like making things and people seeing them and i guess
Starting point is 01:15:28 that's why i like to stand up the most anyway stand up the ultimate of that where you go i'll see how this works in zero seconds yeah but then you can prove to them immediately why you are funny this tanks and you're like okay funny but like if a video bombs you video bombs, their next scroll isn't a video of yours crushing. You can't be like, hold on. Before you talk shit to me in the comments, watch this one. That's one of the reasons, I mean, I have this problem more than you probably
Starting point is 01:15:54 just because of the type of, I make whatever, more aggressive kind of stuff, right? I actually do a set where I'll kind of make fun of these type of people. Then I'll make like, let's say I was going hard on women. Then I kind of go back and go hard on men.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And there's this kind of tug and pull. Right. But if that's YouTube, it's like, I almost like one week is making fun of women's sketch. And then the next, so you only see the one point. So you're always,
Starting point is 01:16:21 yeah, it really is. You can't, it's very hard to like do a balanced thing in a youtube video that's just your one watch 10 seconds of the video and then like comment yeah i mean you'll post your tour dates and people will be you'll be like in their kansas city second day and people are like so no kansas and you're like how much did you watch nobody does anything so like any word you say like in a sketch somebody's's like, that's enough for me. Right.
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Starting point is 01:21:18 Again, that's athletic greens.com slash boys cast to take ownership over your health and pick up the ultimate daily nutritional insurance. Get me out of here. So on the topic of like Hollywood guys that it didn't work out as good for, Nicolas Cage, like this kind of just, I mean, there's always been these. Wait, are we at the point where we're saying that things aren't going well for him? Well, so he
Starting point is 01:21:45 sort of came out and he said are we rewriting history nicholas cage nicholas cage is i mean he seems like he spent his money poorly well that's for sure yeah so what do you think i'm about to say and what do you say oh i thought oh i just thought that's what you're saying well nicholas cage said that he made all of those movies. So I was saying to everyone that there's kind of all these crappy Nicolas Cage movies and he's become the biggest cheese ball of the time. And then he did some interviews recently and told everyone that he had a massive IRS debt.
Starting point is 01:22:15 And everyone knows about his castles and stuff, but he apparently owed like, you know, $8 million. In taxes? Yeah. So imagine if you have a castle, you're probably not great with your money for sure you're definitely wesley snipes and he had to just crank out all these brutal movies and he had all these like debts to pay him off like they're like oh so you did fucking national
Starting point is 01:22:34 treasures because you're all that money goes no no i i thought that was gonna be no that one he didn't for that kind of reminds me of i remember uh like i used to take pretty big loans out to make stuff like when i was you know i like pretty risky moves or whatever when i was like young and It kind of reminds me of, I remember, like I used to take pretty big loans out to make stuff like when I was, you know, I like pretty risky moves or whatever when I was like young and I remember dating a girl that was like, oh, I'm broke. Can you buy this? And I'm like, no, you have $0. I have negative $70,000 right now.
Starting point is 01:22:57 I'm broke. You have $0. It's actually a pretty good amount of money to have. Looks like the bill's on you. Yeah. But I remember that like legitimately being the case, but I was like, it's funny.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Cause Nicholas Cage would be like, oh, this movie star. It's like, no, he has a $7 million less than you. I remember Mike, Mike Epps had something like that a couple of years ago too.
Starting point is 01:23:16 He was in debt like a lot. Like he didn't pay tax for like eight years. But making like Mike Epps money. How do you not pay taxes? You don't have a business manager. Steve Harvey had a thing. Actually, I saw a thing recently with Steve Harvey where he said that it's he had a business manager
Starting point is 01:23:28 i mean and his business manager he's like he would he's like i would write the checks to the irs and then someone like went to his house and there were seven years of returns with the checks that were never cash the guy just like never sent them in and then no no he took the money like the guy like embezzled the money or whatever and then but at the end of the day steve harvey's on the hook for it like he's like you can't be like oh this guy fucked me over the irs is like what happens is like you get this famous but you also have a friend who's like taxes like i think everybody knows the guy who's like i don't pay that shit it's like you ever hear just like people being like parking tickets you don't really have to pay him it's like the street smart shit we did right yeah yeah so i think like my dad just has a boy who's like nah you don't
Starting point is 01:24:07 need to do that you're good all right what are they gonna do yeah bro they'll be a fan anyways 400 million people in this country how are they gonna find out yeah dude they saw the movie friday this shit was funny right so i don't know i mean but you ever been like looking at your taxes but do they really do they really account for all this yeah yeah yeah like well the, yeah. Well, the W-9s for sure. I mean, we're more careful probably because I don't want to get fucking sent out of the country, I guess. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, you get people around you that help you with all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I know. Well, I have an accountant, but I still do mine. Yeah, but don't you wish you got a text back from the fucking IRS that's like, approved. We got it. Thank you. Scene. Horror. You're away for seven years.
Starting point is 01:24:44 It's the old emoji no you're right no you just send it off they get on it you eight years later right but like i just want like each year to like get like have them like call me like you're good just something i don't like i send money and then i'm like you go i hope i never hear i hope i did that right i don't yeah it's so weird and like well dude i'm doing my taxes yeah and i'm just like uh you know adding up like whatever 40 000 numbers or whatever this and that expenses from this and that meals and all this different things and i'm just like i screwed up the one flight that i booked yesterday so i yeah oh yeah the auto rs gonna be knocking on your door you said austin and nashville were the
Starting point is 01:25:23 same place you're like i fucking swear yeah you showed up and you go yeah you wrote off these uh these egg rolls at pf chang's are you sure that was a business expense well i yesterday i had to do i tried doing this actually right now and i had to do an interview with the people to verify my identity at the irs website and then i was cruising around the irs website for half an hour i couldn't find the W9s there and I was getting fired up at 2am. I work for Google. Somebody help me. What people do you have to interview with? I had to interview with the IRS people. There's people there? Yeah, you never get that
Starting point is 01:25:56 where people text you and they say, hey, listen, you need to call this number and give us all your socials and stuff. Oh, yeah. I always ignore them. I'll start answering them. What do you need? They just call you. Here's my address they go hey hang out hey yeah it's like hey i'm just one of the guys at the irs just being a bros if you want to just call do a group chat just give me all your hey i'm ron at the irs just sounds a little too legit yeah yeah so the guy named ron would never scam me ron's are fucking good for the board, man. Rons are great. It's like i-rasset.com. Nicolas Cage said he's got huge creditors in IRS spending $20,000 a month keeping his
Starting point is 01:26:32 mother out of a mental institution. So he had no choice but to do all this sort of stuff. And that was the same thing. There's this guy, Frank D'Angelo, that we like. There's this Canadian guy. He ran this huge food company. And he's like, he's kind kind of i don't know how do you even describe him he's famous but he's only famous because he had so much money that he would
Starting point is 01:26:49 buy commercials and like he had his own talk show oh yeah that's crazy you can buy yourself on the airwaves no he was like the c that uh t-mobile yeah you ever seen the ceo he's just yeah he's like posting all of them yeah he's like in the ads he puts it the t-mobile guy but so dude this guy papa john's prime example this guy would buy an hour time slot so he was a singer he was uh he wrote and directed movies and stuff and in the movies he would get like james conn and james conn would fly up and because james conn was in the same boat where he owed all this money he had like four ex-wives was totally broke and he would pay literally you come up for one day to toronto he gives you like 20 grand cash don't have to learn the lines the movies are brutal like where are they streamed
Starting point is 01:27:36 they're all streamed um on uh i don't really know where they ended up vod i had to hunt it's all video on demand in canada but it was on amazon prime very bad amazon brother just fucking give you a handy or something no amazon pro amazon prime in uh you the goal bad movies dude they're terrible like crazy continuity we know people who worked on them and like they would shoot a full feature like maybe in three days with six cameras cross shooting i love it crazy continuity well it's a money grab on everybody's angle. Even the DP is like, yeah, no, this is. Well, it's a money grab for everybody but him because he was taking these crazy baths. But is he doing it because he wants to be famous?
Starting point is 01:28:16 Yeah. So his talk show, it was like a shitty Letterman style show, but in Canada and nobody's ever heard of him on them. And then it would cut to commercial but the commercials instead of commercials they're all his shit i love it i love it too i think it's hilarious it is the best that's just money for you right i ruled dude it's not money he's losing so much but you ever taken like a private gig or some sort of a stand-up gig where you're like yeah how bad can it be yeah i did one it was like a 17 year old birthday party at a mastro's in costa mesa and the dad was like i don't want in costa mesa
Starting point is 01:28:50 mastro's steakhouse okay but they like run it out the top how long ago was this this was like three years ago this is really when i was like i okay this is all right you're figuring out like do i do these kind of things yeah yeah because am i the guy that does the private party show yeah i was like dude i'm gonna cook tonight mastro's let's go and i knew the other comics on it but uh the guy paid so much to have everybody there he goes i'm gonna do stand-up now and he had a wireless mic and it's like one table is all the 17 year old and her friends and then the other table is just all the dad and his friends and he's talking about shaving his dick and he's just and and crushing probably so no not like the daughter was like
Starting point is 01:29:26 head down in her fucking bolognese pasta was just like you're ruining my birthday but he had the money he rented the thing he had a fucking he had a hawaiian shirt all the time he was a big guy but like he was just like classic guy like we walked up and he goes you guys are the comedians you don't look very funny i'm fucking with with you. I'm fucking with you. But like money does shit to your brain where you're like, I'm the guy. So when I hear the story about him running his own commercials, he's in his own world. No, you did stuff that was kind of cool. Like, I don't know if you got, you were into these guys, but like, you've been doing stuff
Starting point is 01:30:01 with like, like dirt nasty and that whole squad. Dude, I think those guys are the best they're awesome that whole era of fucking yeah dirt nasty and like the beardo and uh mickey avalon era i was always into that stuff it's like um i feel like and and also i guess you did stuff with like a bunch of like porn stars and stuff like it's weird how that's one thing that la has better is there's all these kind of different, like... You collab with the most random people. Which is cool, though. It's great.
Starting point is 01:30:30 I mean, yeah, it is really. Because what's interesting is, like, we had, like, a porn star on our podcast just because she was a fan of the show. Kendra Sutherland. We had Kendra and we also had Mia Malkova, who was awesome. They're both great. But then our DMs afterwards were just, like, filled with, were because like their numbers went up but also like if you're promoting an only fans like shit's gonna move up so you're just popping that you're giving them money yeah but i mean like they're doing our show we're like yeah promote whatever the fuck you want you know um but like
Starting point is 01:30:58 our dms are just like so many porn stars were hitting us up and we're like oh no that's not the podcast we like we just it's not it's just like guys being they're like cockroaches that saw an opportunity you don't know jumper what they do uh yeah the plug talk have you seen that one i know i did know you did it i didn't know oh dude i see that on my twitter and i just like i like i'll be like driving i'll start thinking about that show yeah like dude i adam's been he's nice to me so i've never He's the best He's just got such a funny life That he's cut out for himself Dude they have like the mini mics on Like fucking shit that
Starting point is 01:31:32 Tim Cook would wear And like mini mics And they're like talking about And then they're just gonna go fuck And I'm like dude this is like A 13 year old who took an Adderall And he's like this is what business is And I'm just like He's just Dude, this is like a 13-year-old who took an Adderall, and he's like, this is what business is. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:45 And I'm just like, I'm like. He's just, dude, he's making money, and he's like smashing other girls while he has a girlfriend. He's like, he's figured it out. Dude, it's like, I think about that in the podcasting space, and I go, there is no way anything me and Michael Blossom will ever do will top that. Can you imagine after your podcast, you go, okay, time for the scene. They call it a scene, right? He goes, time to do the scene. I mean, it's great because you build the chemistry
Starting point is 01:32:10 with that person beforehand. Then you're having an orgy. You're like, it was my wife. You know, you're doing all that. But just like... Well, when I told him, I was like, you have a lot of like an alternative lifestyle. And he's like, what do you mean by that?
Starting point is 01:32:19 And I was like, all right. I guess not. He just does porn and then interviews like an upcoming rapper from baltimore it's he's like dozing off because he just busted like four nuts like an hour ago that is tough to do a whole podcast i would be hard to do a i mean i guess you do it enough but to me that would be hard to do a podcast for the whole time you're just like all right like i gotta be getting hard after this pretty soon it's always in the day you come at like noon you're like i can't do any work after this
Starting point is 01:32:47 it's fucking amazing but dude i like i was literally i watched like because we talked real quick because we're trying to figure something out while i do a sketch with like that type of stuff he's sick he does stuff with danny yeah yeah but i was just like trying to figure out i was like i i don't even know like what to like he's like yeah just give me like some scripts and i was like i don't know where do like what like he's like yeah just give me like some scripts and i was like i don't know where do you start with this well you do a lot of stuff about you know like porn stars and strippers i bet you you can pick like a oh that's i feel like you could crack that easily i think so i bet you he'd be good actor too he's smart yeah yeah i just
Starting point is 01:33:20 thought the the premise of that like that was just like an idea. I think he just woke up in the middle and I was like, yo, this is going to fucking hit. It's a great... Yeah. I just want to like... You ever know those people on TikTok who are like, hey, what are you listening to? I just want somebody to be like,
Starting point is 01:33:33 oh, Plug Talk. And then they walk away. Dude, so funny. Plug Talk, yeah. I wonder, do people just listen to Plug Talk? Or they go, I just get the audio.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Right. That would be so funny. I just get the audio. Is would be so at the gym like just now that's one that spotify needs the video for that's what i'm saying i think the video is on the only yeah it's on the only fans right just the audio listening the audio yeah yeah i don't i don't think it i think it's only on their because there is i think we talked about on the podcast i don't know don't think it I think it's only on their That would be amazing Because there is I think we talked about it
Starting point is 01:34:06 On the podcast I don't know if we ever got to it But there was this podcast Of these This couple Yeah, they were Fuck They were doing a podcast
Starting point is 01:34:13 Where they have sex And people are doing All sorts of zany podcasts These days It's like a Insane one It's purely audio Audio podcast
Starting point is 01:34:19 I'm pretty sure there's one Where the guy would like Go on one night stands And then interview the girl The next morning She's like Can I just leave? She's like I'm not I don't want to be on podcasts Can guy would go on one night stands and then interview the girl the next morning. She's like, can I just leave? She's like, I don't want to be on podcasts.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Can we just go get bagels or something normal? That's really funny. Are you really doing a Manscaped ad in front of me right now? There's no city in the world that that would be acceptable other than Los Angeles. I think LA would fake it and be like, this girl I banged. And then it's clearly a gas that he invited. We just had sex. Yeah, I would be like this.
Starting point is 01:34:44 I don't know but but they're now podcasting is so inflated that it's like what is the next thing like what's the next what's the next plug talk yeah what what are you guys doing huh let's dim the lights i think 90 of girls do only fans now so i think that's reached this threshold that you know i don't have to dial back there's gonna be a podcast exclusive to only fans and if they and if they want to buy stiff socks the podcast i will sell it in a heartbeat just do a nude version well the only fans was trying to get into podcasting they hit me up to be like hey we want a place for you to post your sketches and i'm like i hear where you're coming from but like but like if you're gonna get a bill on your parents
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Starting point is 01:36:17 Yeah. But it's so interesting because you have to be like, you have to pretend like you don't know how that game works. Like, oh, you do OnlyFans. You should be like, follow each other on there? Or how does it work? What's your alias, you know? And then you're just in the bathroom at 3 a.m. Like, what is Anal Blast 44?
Starting point is 01:36:32 To me, there's always something cool about the OnlyFans chicks where it's, like, any normal relationship, you start dating someone, then it's kind of like, all right, where's this going, all this stuff. When you start dating someone, the girl that's, like, about that life, it's all, like, it's sort of, like, set in stone where you go obviously we're not gonna be like boyfriend girlfriend like this you know what i mean so to me there's a that's one thing about if you're not looking to get into a relationship those girls can be perfect you don't think you can date if
Starting point is 01:36:59 once somebody does only fans no i think that you can, but I think that it's kind of most of the times you don't have to. Okay, you've never been in a relationship where you started dating a girl and then the girl's like, okay, what are we? You know, that kind of thing. Relationships, they take their logical steps. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:15 And whereas you can't really keep someone, most of the time people don't stay in the like, we're just kind of very loosely dating. You can't keep that for too long. Oh, okay, I see what you're saying. But when girls are kind of in those wild lives, you can be like very loosely dating you can't keep that for too long oh oh okay i see but when girls are kind of in those like wild lives you can be like listen you're living a wild life i'm kind of wild we can kind of just say you know okay it is what it is i think there's couples on only fans that they don't show the face ever the only fans couples do exist but that's it
Starting point is 01:37:38 that guy's he's a that's like a money-making but do you think the guy was like i'm jealous or like honestly what if we did like they're just into that and then they're like oh we can make money from this too well I think that's what happens they don't show their face
Starting point is 01:37:50 so they can still do whatever the fuck they want but they're getting piping each other out I knew a guy that was I mean I've been asked to do those
Starting point is 01:37:58 but I've never done anything like that but the so you have yeah no fuck no dude I have too many tattoos it'd be too crazy that is true it's like Ryan Long Comedy on your forums I do have a lot of ryan long comedy tattoos yeah but there is
Starting point is 01:38:08 a a guy that we know in toronto comic that he was me he like got in the circuit of those chicks and he would he really got into making videos and then one would be like yo can you fly out here you'd fly him out and then he would like make all these videos were there for four you know weeks not put his face in and then sort of fly back and he was just living this position and this was just a guy that like worked construction up to this point but he also did stand up yeah so you're like where you going it's like ottawa you're like oh who books out you're like what and he would get well she would pay him like 200 bucks a thing or whatever. How people pay the rent. There's people out there that you walk past somebody at Starbucks that day who just sold
Starting point is 01:38:48 his left testicle for like a Range Rover truck. And you have like how people, especially in a city like New York, it's crazy that how people make their money, like doing anything. Yeah. Well, there is this one girl. This is like a New York Post article, but just came out. And this girl had brain surgery and she's like an OnlyFans chick.
Starting point is 01:39:05 And then, so she basically was in the, she just got her brain surgery and she was like sneaking out into the like hospital and she was taking all these like videos and things for her OnlyFans while she was in the hospital for her brain surgery. It's a girl boss. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Real girl boss. And the doctors were just like, yo, you have to chill. Cause you know what I mean? And then she was sort of posting this were just like yo you have to chill because you know what you mean and then she was sort of posting this thing being like you know when you love what you do and i'll do anything for my fans so she's like in the hospital bed with a big scar dude if i was in the hospital i'm gonna swipe ups and shit hey what's up guys gotta move these tour dates in
Starting point is 01:39:38 buffalo new york you know guys are so fucked though because guys are like yeah yeah like that with your big scar on the back yeah i love the comments i follow some of my friends do only fans and i followed them on twitter and it's like you're just scrolling the middle of the day and you're like oh you're getting anal right now i love looking at the comments because it's just guys sending photos of the cocks like me next question mark but it's like like so much hope yeah it's like a filter on it it's. They've never been next. Well, they're like, well, you think you could handle this bad boy? And then somebody responds to that and is like, that ain't shit.
Starting point is 01:40:13 What about this even better boy? It's just a Twitter dick off. The guys argue about their dicks to each other? I've seen everything. Go to any porn star's Twitter. Twitter doesn't give a fuck. Twitter guidelines are like, as long as you don't say Trump, we good right yeah go through any of them and there's like guys like with their cock out and be like oh what's a lucky guy gonna do to come to fucking milwaukee huh it's wild that's it's wild just on with their faces in it not a lot of fate sometimes you get a okay it's
Starting point is 01:40:41 a lot of just straight down straight dick with like a fake avatar you know what I mean oh yeah yeah yeah but then you go to the big dong 454
Starting point is 01:40:50 they're just throwing them out I mean it's yeah if you go to see that guy their replies yeah that's his third post that day
Starting point is 01:40:56 it's 7am on a Wednesday he probably has like 10 OnlyFans girls he follows yeah dude it's it's nuts dude
Starting point is 01:41:02 I mean it's I see stuff like that and I'm like the world's hilarious I love this place it's great like nuts i mean it's that i see i see stuff like that and like the world's hilarious i love this place it's great like the fact that we have social media where you can just see something and be like here's my cock dude but that's a compliment to the girl because she's like oh wow these guys must be going in oh yeah you know it's like well like if you post a video and somebody posts a photo of like them laughing that'd be a weird thing to do. Don't do that. But like in that regards where you're like, oh, I'm that hot where guys are just sending
Starting point is 01:41:30 their cock to me. Yeah, you take it as a compliment. The craziest thing though is that... You're saying that yeah, this is, they should, if any girl that gets an unsolicited dick pic should take it as a compliment. Trevor Wallace, okay, moving on. It's crazy how like saturated OnlyFans is though, where there are girls on Twitter who are just like posting all their shit and just like crickets that's so much that is
Starting point is 01:41:49 rough the girl that took the jump and you go the problem with this life about that a lot too it's like all of a sudden a girl you like kind of met at coachella like four years ago is like i have that just like posting a photo of a dog and it's like swipe up for that link and you're like whoa but i mean it's like with anything when you were like i'm gonna start doing comedy everyone from your hometown like the fucking the girl we talked about earlier that was like your little comedy career it's like that for rapping it's like that for comedy it's like that for only you're saying your little only fans career and she's like actually i'm in the top one percent yeah which is actually three guys sent me their cock in my dms this morning so yeah I've actually rated 12 dicks just today.
Starting point is 01:42:25 Dick rating is the best thing ever. Dude, paying for a dick rating. Dick rating is hilarious. What do you do with that? What do you do with it? But also, I guess the guys that are getting the dick ratings, you're going multiple dick ratings. Oh, you're not going to get based off one.
Starting point is 01:42:41 They're like figure skaters waiting for their fucking score. You know, they're like... But I'll see that in bios. A girl will be like, free dick ratings, which is... You just wanted to see your dick, I guess, is the thing, right? Oh, I see where your head's at. Okay. I think the idea with the people that are getting the dick ratings is to them, they're
Starting point is 01:42:57 like, she saw it. Oh, see, I thought it was more of a humiliation thing where you're hoping no matter what it is, you go, that's the worst dick I've ever seen what's wrong with it but does that like get somebody off they probably are generous i think guys yeah they're just like i don't know the dick rating is fucking like you think pay 40 for some only fans girl to rate your dick you think the girls i feel like most of the only fans girls would probably be pretty generous but they'd be like pretty nice to peace yeah yeah because you also want like you don't want them to leave can you get can you like is it the kind of thing where you rate it you go i didn't like that can i send it in again can i get a review to some guys
Starting point is 01:43:32 probably do they flop up a little harder and send again i don't think you recognize the same dick like whoa i said one entry per week what is this you sent that on tuesday yeah same guy with a different handle but that is an interesting move when you get in but now i think you can kind of get in differently you know like if you're a hot chick you can post your photos um you know people's advertising music on twitter they're like hey this viral video of that car jumping over here's my music i think you can kind of like throw your nudes up on reddit you don't have to go to the people that like follow you on Instagram that you went to high school with you're like hey You can try it out. Yeah, you can try
Starting point is 01:44:09 Yeah, you can like get it up and like reddit or Twitter totally but for the people to go right off the gate you go I'm doing my thousand people on Instagram you go this can't be the move Even worse on you ever play like a gambling game in your head Were you like you like click an account and you're like, hold on. And then in their bio, it's not OnlyFans, but it's like Linktree and you're like, I know what's up in those branches. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:35 But I like it because it's like, it never says like OnlyFans. It's always like the sneaky little link that you were looking for. Yeah, I was fucking looking for it. There was a few comics that do that. And then, well, there's some that do it normally, but there's a couple people that out of the blue was like a random, all the people from my buddies from home and stuff were like, do you see who's freaking on?
Starting point is 01:44:55 And then someone will get a subscription to look at them. And then they go, no nudes. Yeah. Bikini. But she got paid. But that's like, did you have a girl from your hometown that did porn? We had one girl that did porn and then her sister did porn. But when one girl did it, I forget what her...
Starting point is 01:45:10 She did it for like seven videos, got in and got out. And it was big. This was before social media. This was word of mouth. Yeah. You ever go viral word of mouth? But dude, it was like, everybody was like, oh, word, that's crazy. Immediately Google her. Of course. But then the sister did it. It was big, dude. They both did it, huh? word of mouth but dude it was like everybody was like oh word that's crazy immediately google her
Starting point is 01:45:25 of course but then the sister did it it was big dude so they both did it huh but i guess if you're doing porn it's well it's different with porn because you like booked a role you know you're like yeah do audition yeah yeah well you're like oh she's on brazzers she's doing something right with only fans so and so you know it's anyone's art yeah it's anyone's art you know it's like anybody can upload on there so there is a form of like you made it if you're on fucking the front page of like it's big for them we did uh well there was like one girl who did a thing where she goes i'm raising money for charity by uh showing my boobs or whatever and it was like 40 bucks and then we had a group chat where everyone everyone venmoed five bucks to the one guy yeah there's something it was so funny dude it was one of those things that every single person
Starting point is 01:46:10 in our group chat was like sitting by themselves like chuckling like this is so funny and then you finally the boobs come in and it's like we got boys we got the merchandise and then it finally sent it to the group chat and everyone's like all, all right, nice. Good work, boys. Back to go on. Yeah. All right. I'm about to catch this flight anyways. All right. I don't know what that is. Back to work, fellas.
Starting point is 01:46:31 It's that curiosity where you're like, I had one class with this girl my sophomore year of college, and now she does OnlyFans. I need to know. Yeah, yeah. What was the cause for that? Kids in cages? I don't know. I wasn't trying to get too
Starting point is 01:46:45 specific on it um but the uh i can't remember okay there is there is a few a few kind of more things i was gonna say the um oh actually you know it was a funny one uh carrot top he was like i saw him doing uh basic crawl and he was sort of saying that he's never had a girlfriend, and he's like, you know, because of the lifestyle and comics, I have a girlfriend. I was just like, Carrot Top is crushing fucking snids in Vegas right now. Oh. Did you guys see when he posted a photo of his dick on Instagram on accident?
Starting point is 01:47:18 What? No. Yeah, he... Come on, it's never by accident. How does it look? No, this one, it's usually on purpose. No, Jamal Murray did that. That's the rappers are always like, oops,, it's never by action. How does it look? No, this one... It's usually on purpose. No, Jamal Murray did that. That's the rappers are always like,
Starting point is 01:47:27 oops, and it's like perfectly flat. Jamal Murray on the gun lighting. You know the game? He wears gray sweatpants and the outline goes down his kneecaps and he's like, Saturday morning stroll and you're like,
Starting point is 01:47:36 you know what's going on. And he's doing the, like it's hard but pretending it's soft move. Like we were born yesterday. But Carrot Top was in his garden and I think he did on x because he deleted it and it cropped out and then re-uploaded the same photo like people were gonna be like where's your cock on this one but um somebody a comic i forget who did posted it was like lol
Starting point is 01:47:54 but like he was in the garden with like like jean shorts super low and he's like he's like doing gardening and you could see literally the tip of his coccola oh it was poking out poking out uh and he is what how was it uh it is carrot top back in the top of the carrot was out it was just it was literally like without sounding hacky as all hell like it was literally a carrot top like it was just kind of just hanging out it was just like a little poke right there he's just fucking dusting vegas right now well you all those vegas guys an accident i think so because he same with the magician jamal murray i don't know if you know on the denver nuggets right at the beginning of covid randomly just on his instagram story he just posted like two video two full stories of his girlfriend just like
Starting point is 01:48:39 sucking his dick do you guys know uh like it was ridiculous like people like oops what could you pause but you're like a star of the nba like what are you doing do you know bunk gang yeah yeah bunk bunk gang so when he he i don't know this is maybe like two or three years ago but i think he was off zans or something fucked up but he literally uploaded just a whole self-tape of him just plowing a chick out on his instagram stories. Just literally recording himself just smashing. And it was on Twitter. It was just trending. It was like, boonk.
Starting point is 01:49:10 And I was like, what the fuck's going on? Immediately, Instagram's like, you're done. You're gone. So fast. So fast. And he's kind of like, oh, I'm going to have to do it. Dude, he was one of the comics on the Larry Charles. Remember Larry Charles did that Netflix special
Starting point is 01:49:24 about comedians, iconoclastic comedians or whatever? And Boonk was one of them. the larry charles remember larry charles did that like netflix uh special about like kind of like uh comedians like iconoclastic comedians or whatever and like he was one of them and he kind of followed him around when he's like you know goes into a mcdonald's and destroys the whole place and like yeah we just like yells name the run out yeah yeah but just full-on clapping chicks i mean it like everyone's like what the fuck i was like You gotta respect it To see the video of yourself Clapping and hit story And then just be like Right
Starting point is 01:49:48 So how Yeah cause a few of those guys Have done that And they said it was an accident But you go How would that possibly be an accident I mean he clearly looked zanned out Yeah
Starting point is 01:49:56 I Like you saw it You were just like The world needs to see what I'm I've had a few that I've made Where I go People should see this well now's the time ladies and gentlemen right along yeah you leak that out there but that's
Starting point is 01:50:11 what they all do i think so many people have that idea where they're just like sex tape would probably be good for my publicity or you know what i mean i i think you just fucked up yeah but it is funny as a guy you have to be yeah well that's the thing as a guy if you if you want to be like if you have a big thing and you go you know what i want to try to monetize this you got us all these celebrities out there doing stand-up comedy whereas a girl you're just like what do you ever see what about one of these you go everyone's like yo anywhere like this you ever see when rappers go to strip club on their instagram stories yeah uh who does a lot like plies will do a black youngster will do it but it's just literally like flash on the camera
Starting point is 01:50:48 and then like you like pause any frames like a girl's asshole is just out instagram and it's just like i went to 11 in miami oh i've heard and honestly i was surprised everybody's like just filming and they're totally fine with it it seemed really is 11 a strip club yeah 11 is like the really famous 24 hour no it's a 24 hour strip club much needed in miami and it's they it's like a club but it is like a nightclub but they have strippers but it's definitely a strip club and they just people are all on their phones fucking doing all this shit and it's just like whatever they don't care what you think would be like a huge no-no it is like instagram stories is just everything from like here's my lunch here's tour dates and now somebody's asshole it's just it's whatever you want it to be yeah it's all over the place no a lot that a million people have been fucking kicked
Starting point is 01:51:38 off for way less but a lot of these people but they are still on the same sort of hustle where girls that are posting all that stuff are always getting deleted and they have their backup accounts they're living like the life of essentially the most alt-right guy oh yeah it's like richard spencer yeah he's still on he well he's on twitter that only fans girl who i hung out with in miami her constantly on instagram she's they're on the land she's like i'm about to get deleted like she's constantly posting me like hey follow this but they're just trying to get that bag before it's all done. Dude, if you lost your audience,
Starting point is 01:52:10 you just got to start from scratch. They just find a new girl, yeah. If you already have a following of 100k, I would for sure be like, who knows what might happen? Go follow this one. She uses Instagram to just get the only fans. Yeah, that's what they all do. Alright, there's one last thing.
Starting point is 01:52:29 There's this article that Vice came out with, and they said, why do some people cry after sex? And it was doing a pretty aggressive synopsis of why. It's actually pretty reasonable to cry during sex. I mean, I'm just so happy. Yeah, so you cry because you're happy during sex. That's true. I just got the demons out. Yeahy's crying he goes no you're so happy like oh my god it's happening it's happening it's going she goes are you gonna keep saying it's
Starting point is 01:52:52 happening this whole time i go it's happening you're not even in the room yet i know but the thought i know but i know it's gonna happen what's the theorem on this well the theorem so they say uh zoram a 20 year writer, had sex with her husband and he started crying on their wedding night. Wedding night, a lot of emotions going into that. Probably on Molly as well. Oh, yeah. This is free.
Starting point is 01:53:15 I can't believe this is free. According to a study by Queensland University of Technology in Australia, nearly 41% of men reported experiencing pcd i love it they give it an acronym post-coital distress i think that's what it is is it distress four percent of men said that they've cried after sex on a regular basis so regular basis is nuts where are they getting these people you never had you never had a fucking good cry after sex? No Never 4% of men No The only thing wet is my ass cheeks
Starting point is 01:53:48 From just rolling around on the carpet And whatever the hell 4% on a regular basis is fucking crazy I love how Vice thinks we believe this fucking slob Oh this is a Vice article? Yeah This many people This many dudes are crying
Starting point is 01:54:03 The moral of the story is It's actually, you're the weird for not crying kind of thing. I'll give it a shot. Yeah, yeah. What if that's like the Lord's fucking cigarette, you know? Instead of smoking one up, you just let it rip through your eyes. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:54:17 I just, dude, every time I come, I just want to lay under a fan and just stay there. I can't imagine being like, time to let the other liquids out yeah yeah i don't know if i'm gonna cry i don't want to necessarily get the uber seats wet that's how quick i'll be out there the um okay they said sex on a regular basis according studies suggest nearly half of all women experience crying after sex so um so 50 percent versus four percent 50 percent of women have cried after sex have you ever seen that though no yes i have really i think so yeah i've had i i can't i've had various reasons i think more like let's say some girl you're drinking with or whatever and you were
Starting point is 01:55:02 like broke up and maybe you're gonna get get back together, and you broke up. The emotions. Yeah, and then it was kind of like, what is this? You know, maybe that kind of stuff. But I'm saying out of pure gratitude. Just pure bliss. Oh, yeah. I've put in some performances where it's like they just watched like an Oscar movie, kind of like an Oscar movie.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Like one of these wipes. Like it was art. Yeah, it's like they saw some art, and they go, wow. I'm like, I'm one finger wipe. I'm moved. They cried like in a patriotic, proud way. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:55:29 Like you just fucking, like watching a movie where you, yes, you did it. Or you finally got it up for the first time and after you've been, you know,
Starting point is 01:55:35 been dating for six months and every time you've been flopping around and after you finally got it rock hard, they're just like, fuck you. Yes, Danny. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:55:41 I can see as you get older, you know, your dick stops working but the first time You take some blue chew Or something She's like It's happening
Starting point is 01:55:48 Yeah she's in And then the patriotic song She goes Are you playing trumpet You go I always bring it Just in case Yeah he's playing it now
Starting point is 01:55:56 I've dreamt about this day Yeah so Yeah thanks for coming on Okay Trevor Wallace On the podcast Yeah I'm on tour If you want to check out these tour dates, but I am going to be in Huntington, Long Island,
Starting point is 01:56:07 and those tickets aren't moving. Everywhere else is selling out, but Huntington. We'll get you some tickets sold for Huntington. Hell yeah. Baltimore, you know, come on out. All these lovely cities. I think that, honestly, you and fucking Chad have created like an era of YouTube,
Starting point is 01:56:24 that one little fucking guy. Yeah, I feel that. Hopefully, you know, in the future, we'll be like, oh, dude, that's like, I think it created like an era of YouTube. That one little. Yeah, I feel that. Hopefully, you know, in the future, we'll be like, oh, dude, that's like I think it's like an era type thing. You did the same way. You know, you look like Dirt Nasty and those guys and Simon Raps. Yeah, they have a little moment. The Hollywood rap era. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:34 So, you know, I'll probably start rapping soon, you know, figure it out. Yeah. No, I don't know. I think we just kind of it's just fun. Like, no, you never thought about a moment, dude. Yeah. Fucking that's all I can ask is like create a moment once and then maybe create like three more
Starting point is 01:56:46 if you could create like four moments that's where that's where the sweet spot is I'm trying man I'm trying alright you're the best dude thank you alright thanks man

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