The Boyscast with Ryan Long - Buzzfeeds Top Problematic Songs & We Solve Censorship

Episode Date: April 23, 2021

Cheauvin Aftermath, Buzzfeeds most problematic Songs, and The Tech Censorship Question patreon.com/theboyscast @ryanlongcomedy @dannyjokes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/ad...choices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And you can tell our friends, and they can have my things when we're dead. But we don't end forever. But we don't end forever. And you can tell our friends. And the boys cast. Ryan here, Danny Polshok. Hello. I had many jokes.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I wanted to- What's up? One thing that before I even got into all the stuff because lots of stuff going down but the first thing I wanted to say uh because I've been trying to introduce a segment that's boy of the week and it's a tie Vin Diesel and The Rock and have found out that their contract says that they can't lose fights yeah like they're just like straight up we can't like denigrate also Danny's gonna try to say like less he's off to a bad start we should get a jar I know that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:00:46 and to be held accountable and to be held accountable we appreciate being held accountable yeah there was it's not a good start so basically in their contract
Starting point is 00:00:54 for Fast and Furious they're not allowed to lose fights and so when they make the thing if the writers write that they lose fights they have to essentially renegotiate
Starting point is 00:01:02 and this is in the WWE no this is in a movie. Oh. Too Fast to... Yeah, Fast to Fear is 9. What about a race? Well, they might be able to lose a race,
Starting point is 00:01:13 but they can't lose fights. This is the original... So Steven Seagal, I always said, had the original contract like that because he could never... If you've seen... Okay, did you remember Machete? So in Machete, Steven Seagal,
Starting point is 00:01:25 it was the only time he ever died because he died in one other movie but then he came back to life but in Machete, he died at the end and because he's the bad guy
Starting point is 00:01:33 so he has to die so the only way that happens, they're about to, he's fighting the Machete guy and he goes, actually, you know what, you are right,
Starting point is 00:01:41 I am wrong or whatever, some version of that and then he stabs himself like Japanese style. He goes, and he falls over. over has to die honorably and he got to kill the killer as well so the only way that steven seagal could die in a movie was at his own hand also danny wasn't happy today with uh mr biden he said biden's america took him for a rinse to me so basically what he's raising the capital gains tax the thing, is he wants to raise it on like ultra wealthy.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Like it didn't even like, it doesn't even affect me or most people, but the way the stock market works is there's, there's literal killing the stock. There's algorithms. No, there's just algorithms that are just like these news based things where people like they just information goes in and they make these decisions
Starting point is 00:02:20 based on the information and like, you know, based on news wires and stuff. And they just decided we're selling everything so just everything just and everything was like going nice and smoothly and then it just took well i can't get a credit card my spectrum is down in biden's america danny's stock portfolio took a hit oh the only thing that was good is i was short dogecoin and it was kind of moving against me and then because of that the dogecoin just took a dump
Starting point is 00:02:44 too dogecoin did take a sort of dump. I mean, the Dogecoin is the dumbest thing. I was like, I wouldn't short any other cryptocurrency. I support the Doge. I support the Dogeheads and the Doge. Oh, I have no problem with it. I'm pro-Doge. I'm like, you like Doge?
Starting point is 00:02:55 I'm fine with it. So he said basically, I saw a big thing that he posted too, and it's all very like we're going to put money into the climate. Basically, if you have more than 100 grand, you're going to have to just give 20 grand personally and they basically just throw it at the earth and they think that makes it better. They just sprinkle all of your dollar bills
Starting point is 00:03:11 along the plains of America. And that's another thing too. He didn't pass anything. He's just like proposing it. It's not going to go through. Just so you know, we're going to be doing it. But I saw a funny thing. Man, I wish Trump was on Twitter today.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Holy fuck. That's what we were saying, yeah. Oh, man. Dude, if Trump came back to Twitter just every now and then, just comment on things. But especially when the stock market gets killed because of something Biden does. What if Twitter- He goes, he's like, you guys miss me. Twitter should give him a deal where he gets like one tweet a week.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Well, he still has his system where he can release the press- It's not the same. The press releases- So they had the National Glacier, the Flacier National Park. Basically, they had signs that said the glaciers are going to be gone by 2020. So they go, okay, you know, enjoy it because it'll be gone.
Starting point is 00:03:56 When was this? Forever. For the last 10 years, they had the signs everywhere. And then recently, they just had to take the signs down. They can't just add a three? Well, they sort of updated them but basically it said um they said they put up new signs it said when we when they will disappear it depends completely
Starting point is 00:04:13 on how we act and when we act so it's just so funny it says because this is what they said in the article it said in several decades they will most likely be gone they will grow so small they will disappear and then certainly they will be gone before the end of the century the studies lead scientists said so now they've updated the doomsday thing yeah we've hired a new scientist um remember the Mayan calendar thing a couple that's exactly what it is yeah they go ah I guess we didn't carry a one but we'll see you in a thousand years that's what these people it's like the amount of people and you've seen it with so many politicians over the era that and uh you know and i always say this about peter schiff that's my main critique of him but the amount of these people that are
Starting point is 00:04:49 just always like okay this is gonna be done by 10 the economy is gonna crash by this day this day we're basically gonna be underwater if we don't spend all our money yeah on this thing and then it never happens and nothing ever changes they all just update their predictions yeah i mean the thing with peter schiff is he has right before, but if you are constantly calling for a correction in the stock market, yeah, you're going to be right sometimes, but he's still wrong 90% of the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But are you still doing the protesting for Chauvin for him getting out and writing him? I'm taking a knee, yeah. You're taking a knee for Chauvin. I'm like, remember how Kaepernick was like he didn't actually say he was like kneeling he just like in a pre-season game they were like it's weird he's kneeling during the anthem i'm just gonna be in union square just the one guy kneeling and i'm gonna wait for like i'm not gonna say anything about it and then i'm gonna wait for
Starting point is 00:05:37 someone to be like are you kneeling and you're what for and i go injustice in america yeah yeah i was actually thinking that'd be funny if like you know the rappers because it's always like another man incarcerated if someone someone made that song about chauvin like the system putting another man away an innocent man oh dude you know that girl cassandra fairbanks she's like this like kind of reporter like right-wing reporter chick she had like basically something where it's like uh derek chauvin is like a political prisoner you can't prove otherwise and i was like sorry oh yeah people are people are stressed out about that do you think he's getting do you think he's getting fan mail not yet i don't think he has an address yet but do you think that in jail chauvin's getting
Starting point is 00:06:20 like chicks messaging him like i know do you think he's getting chicks messaging him he will i'm i did you watch the richard ramirez documentary he kind of had a rock star vibe even though everybody said he smelled like a fucking farm but uh and he had this like like totally fucked up but like he was like getting all these like he he was he was being charged with like straight up molesting raping children like breaking into their houses killing all these people and with this known and like not like really um people weren't like saying it was false or whatever like women were sending him like all these nudes and stuff in prison yeah i think so basically outside my house after this happened the because i actually watched the watch the
Starting point is 00:07:03 them announce the verdict and within you know two hours or whatever all the people were still protesting outside of my house there was four different protests that went by so it's kind of that thing patrick's i said this was like the activists are like chicks they're just never satisfied yeah it really does that so i was watching it and essentially they go guilty guilty guilty they cut to cnn and all the people and not a single one of them said oh good every single one of them goes you know this is not even close to enough and it was the most that they could have so it really i will say we have three more chances for riots because i think there'll be a riot if any one of those police officers doesn't get gets
Starting point is 00:07:44 off or like doesn't get like the book thrown well that's what i was sort of thinking because i was looking at you know i kind of every now and then look at people like sean king's profiles or whatever like that right and it's funny because all he all his whole you know gig is posting that another guy got shot or whatever but it's it's so interesting in a country with 300 you know whatever 330 million people and there's 350 days a year or whatever it is 380 days a year somewhere in between there somewhere about that it's actually right in between somewhere it's dead however many days there are in a year so all you need the amount of things that happen 400 times a
Starting point is 00:08:23 year i mean if you whatever you want to do i mean think about all the people you know the amount of things that happen 400 times a year i mean if you whatever you want to do i mean think about all the people you know the like a kumi or someone who's he posts the other things like here's another you know here's where they shot a white guy yeah and you go all you need is 400 a year and every single day you could go a fucking nether one there's more than 400 unarmed people killed by the police every year that's my point so you can do two a day now three a day and in a country with 330 million people all it has to you know every day one in 400 people or 400 million people are murdered and you can it's so easy to just create whatever fucking narrative you want absolutely and and it really is like if i wanted to say oh women are actually the real criminals and then every day i
Starting point is 00:09:05 post another another one here we go again another woman domestic violence 100 yeah it's like it's i mean the cnn it's just completely i mean they're all this they're all the same not to single out cnn but it is particularly bad but it's like yeah danny doesn't want to single out cnn well it's like i'm not gonna be like oh fox news is fucking telling the truth and cnn's not like they're all doing their same thing but they pick their you know their points and they just they decide their narrative and then they find the things that support them and it's like it's pretty again but it is funny to see how i mean everyone talks about whatever the bunch of little echo chambers or whatever but it is funny when you see someone and their whole thing is one thing they could you
Starting point is 00:09:41 know you could post dog attacks you know i have a girl that that i went to high school with that's really like anti-abortion that's every day and whatever it is you go dog attacks you can make anything seem i mean vaccine like the vaccine stuff with like the how they shut down the j and j vaccine because it was like seven women out of seven million got sick and one died of a blood clot and you're like so it's one in a one in seven million people died of a blood clot i've like died of one i guess seven people got him but then they're like one out of i didn't even know this one out of a thousand women who takes birth control gets a blood clot so it's one i was saying one in a thousand for birth control one in a million for this vaccine and people are like yeah my whole identity is that this vaccine it's like oh they're like this
Starting point is 00:10:21 vaccine is going to kill you and you're like well but more importantly even if whatever you think about that it just shows like the how much they go against their own thing because forever you know what i mean it's kind of like so if they're saying one death of covid's too much i guess if anything it actually is kind of more maybe i say i kind of retract my point it's like the opposite where they go if one death from covid's too many and then they go one death from the vaccine's too many and they go one death from this too many it's cost it's like a cost benefit yeah but they don't know cost benefit obviously if you think about it the whole they couldn't do cost benefit in the first place a hundred percent yeah no question about that the whole covid thing
Starting point is 00:11:01 was you know you could go well they're dying here too and they go one death is too many but only for this they're just adding things to their they're finally admitting that there's another thing that one death is too many for so one death is too many for everything imagine that they get rid of like there's the covet's defeated and they go you know what we're just good we got to eliminate death i think that's where they that's legitimately what they were saying when you say one death is too many basically well I had a solution for the cops thing I think that that if you made all bloggers cops yeah so if you had that everyone who works at HuffPo BuzzFeed anything like that they become the cops you sort of send them out to Harlem to deal with all the all the yeah they'd be like hey hey fellas how you how you doing today? Just wanted to come and rap. Yo, did you see? Well, did you see? I thought it was hilarious, the knife thing.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So basically. That's crazy. The girl with the knife. And you go, everyone's so cooked. Basically, this woman, they were in a fight. And they had a knife. And they were like. She was just about to stab her. Just about to stab her.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And the police shot her. And then celebrities are so fucking cooked. And these people, they're so cooked down their hall. And the legitimate politicians and Kathy Griffin was posting, oh, my God, we don't need police to come in and stop knife fights. And the kids have been having knife fights since the beginning of time. The whole thing to the calculus of that is you're like one of those girls was going to die. Yeah. You just like you're just mad which one died.
Starting point is 00:12:23 The one who was about to murder someone was about to end up dying versus the one who was about to die yeah you just like you're just mad which one died the one who was about to murder someone was about yeah ended up dying versus the one who was about to get murdered and then people were like well like they were bullying her so she was defending herself but you're like yeah but like one person was about like no police intervention you have one death police intervention you have one death they're just so and now you have to weigh you like you have to be like okay well who has the more valuable life of the two i guess i never really got the whole thing where okay so there's this idea that that you know everyone wants to defund the police but in my opinion it's just like a fucking you know college girl activist this shit right um it's like i mean you don't think nobody thinks it through past like just
Starting point is 00:13:01 saying it and tweeting it correct but if you think of even the premise behind it it just doesn't make sense to me this idea that where they go okay if you're saying like if i thought of a bunch of florida crackheads right when they make when they make it the race thing if i look at a bunch of crackheads in florida and then you go look how many crackheads got shot and they were you know going into stores and threatening people and they had interactions with the police and then they were and then we kind of said they and then they were like yeah too many white people are getting shot from this the answer is we're gonna get rid of cops so the crackheads can run wild because we're not gonna kill any more of your people yeah you know we've got your back we're gonna get rid of the cops for all those and you go what i don't want
Starting point is 00:13:41 that most people don't want but that's I mean who like what woman living in Harlem that and you go oh there's all these there's all this crime happening and we're getting and she goes you guys
Starting point is 00:13:51 you got my I'm glad you have my back you go it's kind of I think that it all depends on who your enemy is and it's like these people have made their enemy
Starting point is 00:13:58 like as a comedian you're probably mostly your enemy is you know probably blogger class the fucking you know whatever people tryingger class, the fucking, you know, whatever people trying to shut down speech and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:07 The what? The wokies. The wokies. I mean, really the people who, and if you were a drug dealer, your enemy would probably be the cops. You know what I mean? But if you're a fucking 90% of people that are fucking normal, your enemy is not the cops, but these people have, they basically, and again, there is bad cops. They want that.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah, there is bad cops it's about whatever but like that's just the position they want to take because 95 percent of rational people not even rational people 95 percent of people maybe 90 watch that video of the girl getting shot and they go they're like yeah it's unfortunate she got shot but they're like what else are you gonna do me like and the crazy thing is always like oh like why don't they shoot them less that that's always like it comes up they go like why do they have to shoot them four times why not shoot them one time and you're like well cuz they shoot until the person goes down and it's like if one and it's
Starting point is 00:14:53 like you know it's a split second like you like you go shoot and you go like what do you wait three seconds it's like she could stab her then and now you just like two people are hurt well I watch a lot of criminal minds and I always wondered why whenever they the person has the knife to the neck, and then they go, they're ready to shoot the person, and sometimes they slit the throat. And you go, I guess they just take that chance because they go, we can talk them down,
Starting point is 00:15:17 and they all have the guns there, and the idea, I guess, is, well, if she makes a move to slit the neck. But even when two people have triggers pointed at each other, i never got why one of them just didn't shoot it's like you don't have what you can see them move their finger moving and then you shoot i guess it's the i guess it's the idea that someone that they you know well also it's like if you don't basically put a bullet in someone's like directly in their brain that kills them instantly right they still have time but like like unless you have like these shot of shots like you're probably gonna be able to you know shoot you a few times yeah i don't really know what the probably the best scenario is just stay out of those i think well i know it is but although yeah exactly stay out of those situations
Starting point is 00:16:01 stay out of those situations but the whole this is one of the most complicated things or whatever, but you go, it's just the fucking literally children running the school. You go, everyone's on the same page. You go, yeah, this thing's bad.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Like that guy killed a bunch of people. This happened again. You know, definitely they should be able to fire cops. There's a lot of bad cops. And then you go, okay. I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:21 listen, obviously, like you said, most rational people are going, yeah, you're probably not going to get rid of cops in crime areas I mean it's not most people don't want that well obviously crime would just go up yeah for sure I mean
Starting point is 00:16:32 in Minneapolis they were like the whole defund the police thing and then just like crime went up and then people were like yeah Minneapolis got if I was a criminal I'd like that yeah for sure I had a idea for a sketch because my favorite sketches are where they're not like no one really can figure out exactly why they're mad the people that are on
Starting point is 00:16:52 the mad brigade that's why i like the jewish one because if you boil it down people are like i don't like this and you go what do you not agree that vaccines don't make you gay exactly and then well but you said he's a gay lord and i was like no i'm saying he's not a gay lord i was saying that didn't happen and also he's saying that well you see yeah you shouldn't say gay lord i go i agree maybe you shouldn't have said that poor choice of words for that guy which that i was parodying or whatever right and then you're just yeah you're just kind of making fun of but i thought a funny thing that was really making me laugh was the idea of the grammar police having a racism problem.
Starting point is 00:17:26 And then sort of saying, you know, 95% of grammar police are actually good. But it's this, we can't get rid of this guy. And the guy's like, it's a hard ER. He's on the grammar police and he goes, learn English. What country are you from? Go back to where you came from. It's pronounced ask they're like in the grammar police they have a racism problem and then the other guys are you
Starting point is 00:17:53 know we're just here it's like it's actually the it's e-i-r they're not e-r-e and he you know 95 percent of you know 97 percent of the grammar police are just good guys but you know we this guy we have a union do you find the grammar police are just good guys but you know we this guy we have a union do you find the grammar police yeah and they want yeah they keep talking about getting rid of all the grammar police just because this one guy but that's not how you spell spic he's great yeah he's uh so he that's that's one of the things i was thinking of but anyways i thought it was a weird one to watch. It's almost, there was so much energy around this thing that it almost, you know, they made it so, you know, people, like you said, people die every day.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And you can make jokes about the worst things in the world, you know, cancer, whatever it is, you know what I mean? Pedophilia, you know, whatever it is. But this one guy dying, I bet you most people are you know you can't joke about that i mean even in comedy clubs people would feel it's weird how it's just whatever they choose is the thing is the you know that's yeah but that's what i guess sometimes what makes it fun you think people were like bummed that they're like i do two times but i'm saying for two times now in the last six months they've had to board up their shit and nothing happened i was like businesses were just like fuck again like they have to do it again well i was thinking that i saw a lot of people
Starting point is 00:19:08 that kind of didn't know how to react like they were kind of fired up and it sort of took the wind out of people's sails and i'm because they wanted to fight yeah they wanted a riot there was a lot of people that were just you know let's say not even rioters let's say your average person on facebook that's or whatever instagram that's just been posting you know in new york kind of fired up about this you know i saw them sort of i saw a lot of people kind of going through weird phases where someone will be you know good and then two months later they kind of go you know uh you know this is probably good but there it's not perfect and then you know then after a day they kind of got to well well, this is just a start. You know what? It was going through. It's like,
Starting point is 00:19:47 how do I, how do I be the guy I was yesterday with this happening kind of thing? I feel like some people you'd be like, what do you want? A public execution? Like, is that going to make you happy? I was honestly thinking that a public execution would,
Starting point is 00:19:57 to some degree it was, but like, there are people who I'm like legit. I'm like, what do you want? Like you legitimately want to just like, we'll take him to fucking Washington square park and just cut his head off. Like,
Starting point is 00:20:06 yes, I think people do want that. Like, don't you think? I was thinking if I was him, you know, let's say you were that guy. It's almost better that they did have a,
Starting point is 00:20:15 you know, realistically, if this guy's going to jail for 60 years or whatever, I mean, it really is back to the old times, you know, the same way that bloggers want to have like, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:23 and all those people that are my nemesis, they want to have public executions they want to be their own judge and jury system right but if you think about with the showman thing or whatever so this guy's going to jail for 80 years why like wouldn't it be wouldn't for if you were him let's say the whole world's like you're you were sing you're the worst person in the world you're like you're the face of the enemy to you know a big portion of the country or whatever wouldn't you rather just be like you know what yeah bring me out there uh get it over with then this whole thing's done i'm not coming back from this i mean that's some people some people get into jail and then they make that decision at that point it's hard to kill yourself
Starting point is 00:20:56 probably i mean ed steen obviously did one of my favorite one of my favorite sketches i've ever seen is on kids in the hall and it's like this guy comes to this warehouse. It's like, I think it's Scott Thompson, Dave Foley. The guy comes to the warehouse and he's like hiring a hitman. And he goes, I want you to kill somebody. And he's like, all right, give me the money. He gives him the envelope. And he goes, just wait till I'm gone to do the deal. And he goes, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And then he opens the envelope and it's him. He has to kill himself or whatever. And then he's like, he's trying to like kill himself. And then he's like, he can't do it. Like he doesn't know how to do it. And then he finally just like throws himself out of a window but yeah yeah i remember that the uh i was i was also thinking that because i watched that movie the jinx that you told me to watch which was fucking wild crazy huh yeah and one interesting thing was that all the jurors are in the documentary
Starting point is 00:21:40 and they're you know so a lot of these chauvin jurors they'll get like book deals and stuff like that you know what i mean for sure so there's i mean and they'll be like and the thing is they'll have to kind of be like like were you considering and and like they'll have to be like you know i wasn't like totally sold like like it's almost better if they're not like oh it was a slam dunk like they have to kind of maybe like pretend they're like they gotta get their story together for their book if you if i was a juror in that trial, I would be pretty worried. You know what I mean? That's the worst gig you can get.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I mean, if it's, yeah, you know what I mean? If you get, you get to be the juror in that trial. And if it doesn't, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:15 if you basically have no choice, you're like, I don't know. Do you see Greg Gutfeld? I didn't see that. People weren't happy with it. They were fucking, he was like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 I don't care. He's like, even if he wasn't guilty, it's just as good that they found him guilty. And then everybody on Fox News is like, what are you talking about? Yeah. And he's like, he's just good for, I get what he was saying. But then it's like, again, you're like. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Also, don't say that. Also, it's just like, it goes against so many American fundamental ideals. And you're on Fox News saying that. So it's like, obviously you're like, they're probably're probably just like yeah sponsors don't like when you say that like well you could even phrase it you could have even phrased it differently that i hope given the evidence he actually does turn out to be guilty exactly versus i just hope they they're like it'll just be good for foot lockers across the country if he's found guilty and you're like what yeah well i was one thing i was thinking
Starting point is 00:23:07 about watching the jinx which basically it's this you know big uh big famous um you know billionaire in new york or whatever kills a bunch of people well he's the crazy like black sheep of the family right crazy black sheep of the family kills a bunch of people kind of thing right and even in this there's a sentiment of which just kind of made me you know because everything has to be a race thing in america and even with this there is this idea that rich people you know rich and you kind of see it all the time it's like rich white people can kind of get away with anything or whatever right and they kind of spin it that way and you go but every country has that if you go to iran the fucking rich people there that aren't white i've said this
Starting point is 00:23:45 and i'm not the only person who said this but it's like everybody want to make race things when you're like it's more of a class thing like all this stuff is always like it's like you never see you've never seen a rich person get killed by the police unarmed rich person pulled out of their fucking lambo and get killed by well it has Well, unless they end up being a serial killer maybe. But I'm saying that has never happened. It's always someone getting pulled out of like a 96 Plymouth or something. Like, yes, it's like the races, whatever. But it's like, it's never fucking like a rich person getting pulled out of their Land Rover, getting killed by the cops.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It happens never. Okay. Like it's more all this like, you know, division stuff. It's more of like class, but they want to make it race because it's easier to like take off the you know they want to goat you into using statistics well yeah they want to go you using statistics but again it's like you want to use statistics it's like it's only poor people who this stuff happens to generally yeah i saw um pink news there's a there's a character in australia it's a dog show and it said basically it's called bluey and there's like a bunch of articles coming out and they go an opinion piece by the abc everyday website
Starting point is 00:24:51 journalist beverly wang shared her love for the cartoon but also questioned why there isn't more representation and she said that it's a blue dog it's a blue dog and they're mad that it's not enough uh disabled queer or gender gender-diverse dogs. And Wang acknowledged that the creators of the show, Bluey, may not view the show through a particular political lens. But she argued it's important for children's programming to be more representation. Pink News is like the most ridiculous thing ever. You're like, this might as well have—if someone goes, yeah, this actually is owned by the same company that was the onion yeah and i'm sure a lot of people have been made fun of this but the thing that was so funny to me is that well maybe in australia but the the that in her
Starting point is 00:25:34 thing they it's kind of a lot of these people they've stopped like hiding it because what they think is so normal to them that they don't feel the need to. But she goes, you know, I know that this cartoon may be not viewing this through a political lens, but they have to. And you go like, you're admitting it. It's like,
Starting point is 00:25:56 you have to pretend that this is good for other reasons. They don't even pretend. They go, this cartoon needs to be politicized. You're like, the point of cartoons is propaganda and nothing else. There's no point of like, cartoons are not entertainment for children. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's like they have to be, you have to be learned. I mean, I guess there's cartoons, like cartoons are fall in the, you know, entertainment educational category. And you could maybe say like educational cartoons do, but just to say like all cartoons have to have like a message. And her message specifically. And her message. So every cartoon needs to be, you know, advancing
Starting point is 00:26:25 queer rights. But the funny part... Start your own fucking cartoon. Or... And then she would basically say like, oh, it's ableist because I'm not good at doing cartoons. I think also what would be better for these people. And again, it's almost like to some degree you have to just give them what they
Starting point is 00:26:42 want too much. It's kind of like when your girlfriend says, hey, can you keep your voice down? And then she comes and she goes, hey, what's up? And you go, you didn't want me to talk. You said you didn't want me to talk, so I'm not talking. You just do a new cartoon. It's only like the queerest, most disabled dogs. That's where I'm going.
Starting point is 00:27:02 She's like, I didn't mean like only. I just sucked another dick and then you know the other dogs are just like i'm going to school doing my work it's like i'm gonna fucking dog bathhouse fucking the dog comes back covered and come i'm a fucking dog is this the message you'd like to be sending to little children just, just like a bulldog with a wig. Why do no dogs want to hump me? These dogs are transphobic. These dogs are bigots. The biggest, like basically the Tasmanian devil,
Starting point is 00:27:39 but he's got a girl's wig on. And then the show would get canceled and she'd just be like, good. Yeah, and you go, are you happy? You got what you want. Just a butch lesbian dog let's play baseball i'm a woman yeah i think you have to just in some case and then you go what you asked for this i just went no honestly you said you wanted gay people so i went down to the local gay club and observed their behavior which is why this dog has nipple tassels on i go did you want it to be accurate i went down to the local gay club and observed their behavior, which is why this dog has nipple tassels on. I go, did you want it to be accurate?
Starting point is 00:28:09 I went down to Zippers and I observed what the men there were doing. And that's why. Yeah. So like, it's like, unfortunately, I'm not gay. So I still have the show to write. I watch this show. And so I've have this show to write. I watch this show. And so I've said this. No, it's not really one of my pet peeves, but sometimes it's a little too aggressive.
Starting point is 00:28:30 But every show has like tons of gay people now and they're all trying to do this. Right. So I started watching the show, The One, which I won't be. I will not be finishing because I was tricked into watching. And they said, oh, it's not a girl show. So the premise of the show is that it's a dating app, a new dating app where they take your DNA and they get you the perfect one.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Sounds like an episode of Black Mirror. It's one, you nailed it. That's what it is. But for girls, 100%. That was the one that your girl recommended that I got roped into watching with mine is that whatever beyond her or something. It sounds like a piece of garbage.
Starting point is 00:29:03 But in this, they give people matches and sometimes they match them up with a girl whatever beyond her or something. And it sounds like a piece of garbage, but so there's so, so, but in this, they give people matches and sometimes they match them up with a girl. And she goes, I'm not a lesbian, but maybe I guess if that's the one. And then, so they don't,
Starting point is 00:29:14 sometimes they match guys with guys. They just, they're willy nilly with the gender matches and you go cut, stop it. It's not about sex. They're like, it's not about sexuality. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:22 So everyone's a lesbian. So they match these people up and the girl cop, she's not a lesbian. And then she just starts being a lesbian. She Yeah, so everyone's a lesbian. So they match these people up. And the girl cops. She's not a lesbian. And then she just starts being a lesbian. I mean, we all know a lot of girls who that happened to. It's like, you know, it's not that crazy. Can you imagine you sign up for a dating app and you have to pay a high dollar ticket to you pay a hundred bucks. And here's your fucking match.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Hey, you're gay. We match you with your perfect match, Doug um can i pay more money to not get the gay one yeah well also so they have all these lesbians they have a they have a disabled character so they're so they've started slipping in disabled character the main guy his mom just has one arm and they never really mention it is degrassi was so ahead of its time they had disabled people yeah they were gay people like in the eighties. Yeah, but it's very,
Starting point is 00:30:06 but this, and this, it's so obvious because it's just so, you know, it's obviously a chick show, but I've said this before, but you know how they talk about the Weschel test where they go, okay,
Starting point is 00:30:16 uh, women, you know, we do all these movies to make sure that because every move, every movie and TV show, a girl's is always through the lens of a man. That's kind of the, you know, the test I'm talking about? No.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Okay, so. I think I've heard of it. It was this big thing that was taken off. So essentially, you know, they never just have girl characters that just exist among themselves. They're always kind of, you know, in the relationship to a guy or something like that, right? And then you watch a girl show and every single one's about boys. It's like, make a fucking show that isn't about dating. I can straight up, like, watch a show and I can one's about boys it's like 100 make a fucking show that isn't about dating i can straight up like watch a show and i'm like i could tell you who wrote it like every
Starting point is 00:30:49 single time i can guess the gender of who it's for the very least which is fine which is honestly like i'm not like make your fucking girl like that's the thing i'm not the thing is i don't get mad about that where i'm like what the fuck i'm just like i kind of got mad about it because i got well yeah well you get conned into watching it. But a few minutes in, you're like, yeah, this isn't for me. The audacity. That's fine. She goes, you know, it's honestly a unisex show. So the Expendables is unisex too, then, as far as I'm concerned,
Starting point is 00:31:13 for going down this path. It's also the whole – I mean, it's essentially porn for women to fucking imagine a world where there's a perfect one out there waiting for you. You just have to find them. And they have the thing. And luckily, they always find you the one in your own city it's like the whole thing is just such a fucking joke and then they go is it it's not like i guess it's like sci-fi i know it's supposed to be in real world it's not sci-fi this is supposed to be in the
Starting point is 00:31:37 future or currently no it's they nailed this is tomorrow they fucking you know this is 23 and me's next thing 23 and me's next thing here's 150 bucks you're fucking gay bud and then on top of that the idea of the one you go they always meet the one and then everyone's leaving their wives and husbands or whatever but if you go if you met someone they go this is your perfect one or whatever
Starting point is 00:32:00 first of all you meet up she's gross I'm out I'm not attracted to this person at all they don't match the one arm girl up with the one or you. First of all, you meet up, she's gross, I'm out. I'm not attracted to this person at all. They don't match the one-armed girl up with the one or you know, you get the fucking guy who started 8chan
Starting point is 00:32:10 two feet tall in a wheelchair and she's a supermodel and you go, you know, we did the DNA test. You know what book I'm reading right now
Starting point is 00:32:18 is Brave New World. Playbook girl? Playbook girl. That's riveting. But Brave New World, all this Huxley or whatever. It was on Jordan Peterson's. It was like his number one book you should read. I was like, whatever, I'll read it.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And it's pretty good, but it's from like 1930. But it's about this essentially like, you know, futuristic society where like people are not like it's kind of like a bit like this where it's like people aren't in relationship. Four legs. Jesus. Jesus. not like in it's kind of like a bit like this where it's like people aren't in relationship jesus you put in the money in the jar and then when you get to 100 you have to blow a dude i don't that'll keep them i have to pay them with my money to blow them but uh okay it's i'm not finished reading it but it's basically this futuristic society where people are bred by like the government essentially like breeds you in a lab and everybody's bred and they're all like these different like caste systems but kind of like has
Starting point is 00:33:08 that vibe to it a bit like what you're talking about like they kind of feel like maybe rip this off a bit where they're like oh they probably ripped this off of a million things but essentially they're ripping it off of the idea oops that the girls there is this perfect person that's out there for you and whatever and you go okay if you met up with this perfect person, and by the way, this is the conversation that I'm having and she's getting mad at me because she's like, shut up. And I go, okay, so what if they match you with your perfect, because she's asking me questions. She goes, well, if you match with the perfect one, would you want to go talk to Michael?
Starting point is 00:33:37 This was on the Cosby show. Listen, I go, listen, if you get the perfect one and then if you meet up and you go, and then she's fucking, her life's a mess. She fucking hangs out with all her old boyfriends. She's one of those girls that thinks everyone's amazing. I go, you know what I mean? I'm already out. I don't care if you, Oh, but, but your DNA, I go, I'll fucking give her a little bit of
Starting point is 00:33:56 DNA and then I'll, and then I'll leave. Just enough. Yeah. That is a pretty dumb premise. It's ridiculous. That is, that's like a college student got high for the first time and came up and came up with that it's not look what if your dna perfectly linked you to only one person in the world it's and also that's the other thing how many like
Starting point is 00:34:16 fucking malaysian people were in this show none zero so everyone everyone's hot so that at least i don't mind that we're kind of going back to that. Remember like TV just all of a sudden? That's fine, yeah. Like how TV used to be only hot people. Well, they can't show that. Imagine you show up to your match, he's 800 pounds,
Starting point is 00:34:31 and you go, I'm your match. And then on top of that, you go, okay, so if you said this person's your perfect match, he's 99.999% match. Okay, what was the next guy under that? 99.99888?
Starting point is 00:34:46 Okay. Well, show me the 5,000 other people that were basically the same, and maybe I'll pick from one of those. Yeah. The whole thing is just a fucking... Are they 100% matches? I don't... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:57 It's a ding, ding, ding. Ding, ding, ding. This person you got to spend the rest of your life with. That is... And it's a dude. Where is this? Netflix? Amazon, I think.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Amazon. And sometimes you're with. That is idiotic. And it's a dude. Where's this, Netflix? Amazon, I think. Amazon. And sometimes you're gay. Sometimes you're gay. And is the other person being like, so we're gay, huh? Like, are they both showing up to find out they're gay? They only show that with girls
Starting point is 00:35:14 and mostly because, but they have a lot of gay guys in the show. No, there was, the guy one, they had the opposite. They had a guy. But it's like two Rick Rowley's show up and be like,
Starting point is 00:35:23 oh, I guess, that's our buddy from Canada, but he goes, oh, so I guess we're on a fucking date i know they did it the other way with guys so they had a guy that was gay you know he had a little twink living with him and he was fucking the shit out of this guy and then and then they go your match is a girl and he goes i haven't stopped thinking about you maybe i'm not gay you know oh so being a choice yeah so they they basically said being gay is a choice yeah being gay is a choice is what you're saying. Yeah, so they basically said being gays of choice. Based show. Yeah, based.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Being gays of choice. So anyways, this girl, back to this girl. She says, as a parent of color, I'm always conscious of the presence or absence of diverse representation in kids' pop culture. So she can't watch a single thing. Guardian's Australian political reporter said the amount of hate being directed towards Wang, Wang, or Austin powers uh was the reason why this country can never have a serious conversation and i just thought there's there anything funnier than someone going they need more trans fucking dogs and cartoons and then you go
Starting point is 00:36:17 no one no one wants to have a serious conversation about this we're yeah we're the problem that don't don't want to have a serious conversation that was remember after George Floyd Paw Patrol was like people were like we gotta cancel Paw Patrol because it was like a yeah we put it in the Marcus sketch
Starting point is 00:36:31 right yeah dogless police dogs aren't disabled enough dogs gotta have fucking no legs I mean there is something really cute about it when you see those dogs
Starting point is 00:36:39 with like yeah the back legs don't work you can have that one person called for this show to give a main character a trans friend or a gay aunt.
Starting point is 00:36:46 That's a good stereotype. Auntie Maureen is here. Let's make jewelry. I love, what's that guy's name? I like Beto O'Rourke. I'm a Beto O'Rourke head. Lesbians love that guy. People exist.
Starting point is 00:37:04 These dogs are stand-ins for people. Anyway, so I was, you know, and those are the things where you go, yeah, these people are off your tree, blah, blah, blah. You want fucking kids to have knife fights, all this stuff. But the one thing that I thought was funny
Starting point is 00:37:16 is so BuzzFeed released their top problematic songs of all time. And this is a 2021 article, right i'm i have a few of them here but the thing that they do that always fucking before even go i'll go through some of them but the funny part my take is that what these people all do and they say you're going to want to update your classic rock playlist after leading this by the way this is the equivalent because like you know how we hate for comedians when they break down lyrics. And then they're basically just like BuzzFeed.
Starting point is 00:37:49 That's what BuzzFeed is doing, breaking down lyrics. Yeah, we always say the comedian, the worst comedian thing. I mean, there's so many comedians. Once you probably hear this, it's one thing that will annoy you too. There's different forms of this. But they go, Bruno Mars, I'll catch a grenade for you or something. And they go, really Bruno Mars?
Starting point is 00:38:09 You're going to catch a grenade. Really Bruno Mars? That is a joke that someone we know does. I'm just fucking partying for six days straight. Six days. You're in the club. When are you going to bed? So they close the club.
Starting point is 00:38:22 They open it back up. But actually that, but again, I, sometimes I feel bad for the first person who broke down lyrics and was like, they're like, I've never heard this before. This is incredible stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I never thought. And then everybody was like, wait, we could just do that. I'm a fuck you till eight in the morning. Don't you go to work? Yeah. What do you do for a living?
Starting point is 00:38:42 I, but I still, despite the fact that i hate it like anything else the right lyric brought down always got me there's nothing that's it still gets me to this day the bruno the uh will smith his song first in it last one out the club and it's not that me saying well it is but, the classic is like, you're the first one there, whatever. But to me, the part that's so funny is Will Smith wrote this to sound cool.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it's like Will Smith has never been to a club because, you know, I'm the first one in the club, last one there. But again,
Starting point is 00:39:16 when you, I'm doing it. When you break it down, you go, so the club hasn't started and you're in line. You're like the ultimate keener. And then the janitor's sweeping the floors. Will, we're closed.
Starting point is 00:39:29 You know what it was? That always made me happy, even though it's a breaking down lyric. Probably when he was doing it, too, people were like, his producer was like, hey, yeah. Will likes to party, dude. It should be like, maybe the last one there and first one out makes more sense. Because you're Will Smith. Because you're so sick. But then people, probably all yes men around him,
Starting point is 00:39:45 and they go like, yeah, Will, first one in. Yeah, of course. But yeah, so it's not always, you know, it is what it is. Every rule has an exception. First one in and last one out of the club is my exception to the rule. But the thing that these people always do is they break down, they say, look at all these problematic things, and one of them is a microaggression.
Starting point is 00:40:05 One of them is, you know, offensive language and the other one's like raping a chick. You know what I mean? And they go, oh, these things need to stop
Starting point is 00:40:13 and you go, this is not the same and it's this, it's this trick to, to make you think that the, because everyone agrees that, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:40:22 rape's bad. Oh yeah. And then so, they, it is. I'll tell you, definitely agrees. Fucking jail, Everyone agrees that, you know, like rape's bad. Oh, yeah. And then so they. It is. I'll tell you, definitely agrees. Fucking jail. Guys in jail.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That was another thing that I was thinking is that. Do you think that jail should be a hub for LGBT positivity? Like if they are going to say. Do you watch a lot of jail TikTok? No. You don't watch it at all? You got to stop playing on your phone. Sorry, I had to get an NBA Top Shot pack. It was time sensitive.
Starting point is 00:40:48 I know it's rude and I wouldn't ever do that during a podcast, but it's actually like I couldn't do it any other time. It's like they give you your five minutes to get it. Danny's a grown man that spends 90% of his days. It's for the other podcast. It's my only chance of beating Matt. It's the only chance I have of beating Matt. He's like, he's up.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I'm literally down 20 grand. So if people don't know, I have this other podcast for hard money called The Million Dollar Podcast. And I have this NFT podcast against Matt's stock podcast. And I'm getting fucking creamed right now. He's up like 20 grand or something. And I'm like down five. And the only chance I have is to get one of these stupid packs and pull a fucking $25,000 car. When we were writing the movie in Miami,
Starting point is 00:41:26 Danny wanted to pull into a Walmart at fucking midnight to see if maybe they had this pack of cards on sale when it was a 0% chance. That never happened. Yeah, it did. When? When we were in Miami. You were driving me home and you go, No, I was talking about it, but I went to the Target. Now he remembers.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I was like, Walmart is a Target. Okay, I'm so sorry. I target. Okay, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. So, but they go, okay, so the first is blurred lines. That's big for them. I hate these blurred lines. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:54 By the way, a lot of these they've covered too, where they go, remember all those, how we wrote an article about all these are bad? Why don't we just do a combo article about all the bad songs? But there's one or two of these I agreed with. That's why I thought it was funny. There's one or two of these i agreed with that's why i thought it was funny you know one or two they put in i go yeah you don't know i would actually love to see sorry to cut you off but like if this went super viral remember when steve jobs died and then they were like remember back then we had like and now we have like no hope no job
Starting point is 00:42:18 like bob hope steve jobs and what was the other one remember and they're like now we have no hope no jobs like it was like that joke what was the third one i don't know anyways and then like it was a huge and girls have no bushes whatever it was it was like there was like no hope no jobs and it was about like steve jobs bob hope and somebody else and then that night i saw a comedian in toronto do that and i was like the fucking nerve of you a hugely viral meme and you're doing it on stage like it was at the josh elijah's show or whatever i was like are you kidding me that you just did this it's like the biggest meme today and you just are on stage doing this joke like nobody saw that meme today and then but it was
Starting point is 00:42:58 just funny if like some comic just did like these all these songs as one yeah yeah like this is someone's they just read the article i hate these blurred lines you know you want it you know you want it blah blah so that was that one that they've been through this a million times and you know and any normal person's been in a scenario where they go yeah like you've been with someone where like she probably is down but uh she doesn't want to seem like a slut is kind of the you know that was before the internet like if you watch tv that was the whole thing. Women were like, you can't be too eager.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Don't have sex on the first date. But you're like, you can't be too eager. You gotta be, like, modest. And then, like,
Starting point is 00:43:30 there was this shift where, but like, but, women were always, you know, told, like,
Starting point is 00:43:38 you have to be modest. Well, they are true. Pay hard to get, all that stuff. That was, like, a normal thing.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And then, so it's, guys have to. It's harder for them to play hard to get now, especially with Tinder and everyone putting it out and all that stuff that was like a normal thing and then so it's it's harder for them to play hard to get now with especially that with tinder and everyone putting it out and all that stuff because if a girl is like a six and she goes on a date with you you know unless you're like way lower than her and she goes you know i don't uh you know i don't sleep together on the fourth date you go oh good luck for whoever that is yeah i mean they're getting killed by the it's like
Starting point is 00:44:01 supply and demand supply and demand they've just basically been plugged into the market yeah like if anything they should be mad at the girl for you know they should say to the girl you know this is 2021 if you want to have sex with them you shouldn't be you know holding back if anything this was the problem with the girl but it is a kind of like amazing thing how it's forcing like all like it almost like forces this like perfect, uh, like equilibrium of people having to match up with people. Like it does. It's like, or be alone or be like,
Starting point is 00:44:31 it's just so unaware of, of where you actually stand. Yeah. They think there's so much better than they are. Yeah. They think they're a 10 and you're like, I'm telling you nothing in the world. If a girl's hot,
Starting point is 00:44:39 let's say you're on the market and you're out there smashing, you know, just fucking college boy out there, smashing, smashing. And then, you know, every guy, you know, just fucking college boy out there, small ocean, small ocean. And then, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:47 every guy, you know, every dude like that's probably been in a scenario where you go, you're talking to some smoking chick. Right. And she goes, you know, I don't do stuff on the first date. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:44:55 yeah, okay. I'm like talking to three other girls. So I'll keep smashing them and then maybe play the long game on this one. Yeah. You know what I mean? And then she has to be like, Oh fuck.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Like I actually do want to, but like, I don't want to come off as a slut. And you go, yeah, well too bad. Cause I'm dating all these chicks who do want to come off as a slut and you go yeah well too bad because i'm dating all these chicks who do want to come off as sluts and don't care about that so i guess if you want to figure this out no but if you are hot and you want to fucking lock it down as like a boyfriend and you are
Starting point is 00:45:16 trying to do that it's like there is something to be said about that move and that might you know i might be more likely to fucking date someone or whatever if they did that i might think oh okay it's like the milk and the cow thing. Why buy the cow if you get the milk for free? But at the same time, you imagine it. Literally, that's the oldest saying too. And you're like, don't be a slut. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Don't be a slut. Why fuck the cow? Why fuck a cow? We should update this. You go on a date with a six and she goes, listen, I don't really fuck on the first date. And you go, you know, why fuck the cow? And I got milk at home. I got plenty of milk at home.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Okay. And then, so they go that one and then they go, the Beatles. Let this be a, let this be a sermon. I mean, everything I said,
Starting point is 00:45:56 baby, I'm determined and I'd rather see you dead. You better run for your life. If you can little girl, hide your head in the sand. So he's saying that I'd kill you. That's a bit much. But then the one thing I would say is I don't remember what song that is.
Starting point is 00:46:08 But what if they're like, oh, this is someone else. Like the song is like it's not us singing it. You know? Yeah. Like it's a character almost. Well, I mean, that's the same thing. They have Eminem on this list. And you go, trying to kill your wife?
Starting point is 00:46:22 He's literally talking about murdering his wife. It's like, okay, well, every show and everything, you know, whatever. They like to focus on lyrics and thing or whatever. But then my problem is everyone reads these and goes, okay, whatever. He's saying, I'd rather be, you know, I want you so bad if you're with someone else.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I'd rather you be dead. And you go, okay, everyone knows. It's a trope almost or whatever, right? And then the next one, well, I don't care if you're just 13. You look good to be dead and you go okay everyone knows it's a trope almost whatever right and then the next one well i don't care if you're just 13 you look good to be dead new gen does that new gen dead new gen the gun the gun guy i just know that you're probably clean there's one thing i got to do to you jail bait you look so good to me jail bait you want to set me free holy fuck that's wild that did not age well and then you go you know what buzzfeed i'll give you this one yeah that is crazy but i have the fact check like did you fact like that seems so crazy but also so crazy is when he came out with
Starting point is 00:47:20 that song which will look probably like the 70s. Yeah. Totally normal. I guess. Nobody was like, I mean, it's called Jailbait, so it wasn't that normal. But I'm saying like, but I'm saying like, nobody was like, was saying, yeah, he got away with this.
Starting point is 00:47:33 But yeah, I just think it's so funny that they go, you know, this song and guys like, you, if, if you can't be with me,
Starting point is 00:47:38 I love you so much that you'll never be with anyone. You know, songs like that. And this song, two months old and she's out of my dick
Starting point is 00:47:46 I wonder if he fought to get that on the album too like the producer's like you know what we got a great album we don't need the jailbait no they changed it it was originally
Starting point is 00:47:54 11 well I don't care if you're just 13 months can we get rid of the months he's writing he's in the studio writing the song
Starting point is 00:48:01 he goes hey what's the minimum age of consent in America and they go 13 he goes alright 13 he's there jailbait you look so good to the and he's like giving the thumbs up to the producers for good stuff right they go i mean i guess they try to combine these things you know a song about you know uh like kim like you know if i'm gonna fucking slit your throat it's obviously playing like a character thing. And then the other one of like, I had sex with a nursery.
Starting point is 00:48:31 It's just so funny. I wonder if he plays that now. He probably can't. I wonder because Ted Nugent's like the ultimate conservative guy. Super conservative. Yeah, there's no way people are at a show. I'm going to come out for an encore. Put the lighters up. Jailbait.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Jailbait. Jailbait. All right.ers up. Jailbait, jailbait, jailbait. All right, all right. Jailbait. She's 13 years old. Rhyping, ryp, ryp.
Starting point is 00:48:51 People are like, high five. So fresh and so ryp. I like them young. All right, everybody chant it with me. 13, so fresh and so glee.
Starting point is 00:48:59 I wonder if he has like a 25 year old wife and you're like, ooh. Right now, he's got 25. Right now, you're like oh right now he's got right now but yeah he became the gun guy and i guess maybe that's why a lot of the songs are about the really young people are about her dad says it's not fun but dad don't know shit you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:49:18 there's the law what do you know about consent this is probably a huge hit in fucking Saudi Arabia. Imagine Ted's Well, they don't have such a thing. At ISIS? Jailbait's not a concept there. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:31 No, you're right. Yeah, I don't know. They're like, why don't you just marry her? Why don't you just forcibly marry her when she's 11?
Starting point is 00:49:40 If you ask dad for marriage, problem be solved. I'm Russian now. You have one accent. You literally have one accent. I can do Russian now. It's a catch-all.
Starting point is 00:49:48 My Russian's my catch-all. I was doing it the other hour. I was trying to do, because this is a British show, and I was trying to do the British accent, and it was really abysmal, really, really bad. Jimmy, yeah. That's better than your Russian, honestly. My Russian is not that bad.
Starting point is 00:50:01 My Russian is not that bad. And then they go, never judge a book by its cover. They do not like this one. Who are, who will, that's a good message. Who are you going to love by your lover?
Starting point is 00:50:12 Love put me wise to her love and disguise. She had the body of Venus. Dude looks like a lady. They do not like dude looks like a lady. Yeah. I'd say mildly transphobic songs.
Starting point is 00:50:24 That's mildly so trans fucking phobic but the best part and when their description they go this song plays into the idea that trans women are just in disguise or trying to trick or trap people it was the song made for mrs doubtfire and the premise of that movie was a man in disguise to trick people no No, it would be... And you go, yeah, yeah, no, that is what was happening. You know what we should do as a sketch, like a cock rock
Starting point is 00:50:48 where they're like, she's definitely a woman. From Miss Doubtfire? No, but it's like a trans person and you're like, she was born a woman even though she's a man.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Woman! Da-da! Da-da! Woman is a woman! Da-da! Da-da! Trans women are women all the talk
Starting point is 00:51:07 woke talking boys have cock rock that's a woman's penis hit me with your and then I started sucking on her penis the penis of a woman the touch of a woman's penis nothing gay about that of a woman. The touch of a woman's penis.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Nothing gay about that. Ain't nothing gay about that. A country song about sucking on my partner's cock. Ain't nothing gay about that. She was born a woman, still a woman. Got a big dick in my mouth. Brushing on the back of my throat.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Ooh, the soft touch of a woman. The soft touch of a woman on the back of my throat with the cock. So they do not, like, dude looks like a lady. No. That's a big problem for them. But, yeah, it's playing into the thing they're just trying to disguise this trick of women that is legitimately
Starting point is 00:52:09 what the purpose of that the Miss Doubtfire soundtrack I mean they don't like Miss Doubtfire either but is Miss Doubtfire considered pretty problematic yeah of course in the jinx the guy dresses up like a woman to disguise to
Starting point is 00:52:25 trick people but they everything's sexual with these people some people it is a good disguise to dress up like a woman absolutely the guy's very funny and they go why'd you dress up like a woman he goes well if i dress up like a man people would recognize me i mean maybe i could grow a beard but what else could i do i dress up like a he's very everything's nonchalant with him yeah you know they don't like barbie girl and you know all that sort of stuff but uh uh what's the other one here john mayer they don't like on behalf of every man out for every girl you are the god you are the weight of her world so fathers be good to your daughters daughters is problematic daughters will love you girls become lovers and turn into
Starting point is 00:53:01 mothers so mothers be good to your daughters and they say daughters is disturbing to be honest really they want them to go i think i've heard like a lot of chills feminist c chicks who are into that song no this one gave them the fucking chills dude fathers be good to your daughters girls become lovers gives off just creepy vibes that's it no he says he sees women as objects and now the only thing they're good for is loving men and making babies this song uh i used to play this song at my work all the time, and it fucking disgusts me, she says. Why didn't it disgust her then? Because she's woke. She's learned now.
Starting point is 00:53:34 She's better. But she didn't understand what words meant then? Well, yeah, it's just so funny, too. You know what I'm saying? Did you not know what the words were? She's probably singing along to it, and then she's like... She didn't realize the undertone that women were objects. You know what the funny part, too, is you go,
Starting point is 00:53:49 with something like this, when would you ever have, if anything, the takeaway here should be, hey, maybe girls should... Would you ever hear a song from girls being, you know, women be good to your sons, sons become bloggers, and bloggers become... You know, whatever. But no, it's like, no, you should be mean to your sons sons become bloggers and you know whatever but no no it's like you know no you should be mean to your sons and uh yeah you don't need a song to say women so mothers be mean to your sons women be mean to your sons sons become murderers sons become murderers and whatever turn into rapists
Starting point is 00:54:28 sons become rapists and rapists so mothers be mean to your sons that's what they want but you go you go yeah he's saying being nice to women whatever it's like you know they're they're off the rather reservation and then they go that's the equivalent of the you people basically it's like oh what's and you go you like it's like yeah we need mothers daughters what are you fucking saying it's like remember danny bartonello said that he was like at a show at the comedy bar and he go and he said uh he's like what are all you females and they go females it was like all like there was like a crimson wave and they were all like females yeah and he's just like what are you not a female maybe i am maybe i'm and they were all like females. Yeah. And he's just like, what? Are you not a female?
Starting point is 00:55:06 Maybe I am. Maybe I'm not. They were like so angry that he referred to them as females. Oh my God. Like indignant. Then they don't like this Jamie Foxx song. Just one more round and you're going down. I know it.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Fill another cup up. Feeling on your butt. What? You don't care? I was unaware of how fine you were before my buzz set in. Men encouraging women to drink until they regret what they do made me think about
Starting point is 00:55:27 all the songs I listened to back in high school and how they were also problematic so she's basically she had to delete her entire Spotify playlist do you think these people had fun high schools
Starting point is 00:55:36 well yeah because she wasn't like this before she could listen she could jam out to a Jamie Foxx song but also he'd go if you listen to it
Starting point is 00:55:43 he'd go he's also saying himself you know he's he said I didn't realize you were so fine he's saying that I'm you know I'm Jamie Fox and I'm fucking grinding up against some what's this song called beer goggles basically that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:55:58 it's like a song about beer goggles well that's what he says he goes never realized how fine till my buzz said it if anything you should they could be like well what does it matter if she's fine well what if she is
Starting point is 00:56:10 every girl every girl's fine yeah but I just think it's funny because they go yeah yeah I mean definitely on top of that
Starting point is 00:56:17 you go if you're on a date you go yeah let's get a couple pops down the hatch Jamie Foxx isn't saying like you know I never realized how fine
Starting point is 00:56:24 till she's unconscious on the floor. He's saying, yeah, let's have some fucking pops. And also I probably got a wife. Yeah. I got a wife. So I got a wife and also you're gross and I'm Jamie Foxx.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So you're right. I'm going to take an extra few shots to make this go down. I got to say, Bill Cosby's lucky he never got into music like he could have done like the shatner thing so easily and he probably would have been dead to rights on so much i like the idea of saying that how can you separate the man from the artist and you're just like uh you're really into like uh george bush's art i was actually thinking the other day how crazy the whole Bill Cosby thing is. To step back from it and just think he was one of the most famous comedians, actors, everything.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And now he's just going to die in jail at 70 or 85 or whatever old he was. I mean, in his mind, he had a good run. If you look at it through the lens of him you go he's probably to some degree thinking you know uh what took you so long right but he had so his like he was all about his legacy you know he had this this crazy legacy the father well you know that depends on how whimsical you are i kind of think once you're dead you're dead so you know that that that narcissism that comes from he's like after i'm crazy as narcissists oh, everybody says he's the craziest narcissist. Oh, of course. I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:57:46 For him specifically. For him specifically. Well, maybe you should get over that. But that idea of, you know, what about when I'm gone? It's like, you're gone. Who cares? It's like the people that, you know, you fucking leave jobs and you want the other workplace to keep remembering you.
Starting point is 00:58:01 You left them in the dust. Who cares what they do? Now we got no hope, no jobs. workplace to keep remembering you oh you left them in the dust who cares now we got no hope no jobs anyway so do you remember usher when usher uh got herpes allegedly from this 500 pound girl and she's into that do you see the usher box is this what we're talking about no but basically i just thought it was always funny that the usher the reason why usher fucked her is because he was on stage and he pointed to a hot girl that he wanted them to bring backstage because she's so big that yeah she's just so fat everyone goes all right we'll bring her back and he's like not her and we got listen that where you pointed to her did you see the usher bucks thing so what happened
Starting point is 00:58:34 oh my god this is i can't believe you don't know this all right so usher got called out he goes to strip clubs he's a big strip club guy. Okay. And he has his own money. So they're like, they're $100 bills. They look like US $100 bills, but they have his face on them. And he makes them rain usher bucks. Oh my God. So all these strippers are like, he's the cheapest piece of shit on earth. He's not even giving us dollars.
Starting point is 00:58:59 So you can't trade them in? No, they're just, they're joke. Like they're gag money that looks like US dollars. See, I would have assumed the idea was that you can now trade them in? No, they're just joke. It's gag money that looks like U.S. dollars. See, I would have assumed the idea was that you can now trade those bucks in. We're at the bank of Usher? No. No, it's just like, he's like, I'm Usher. No.
Starting point is 00:59:16 He's just like, I'm Usher. He goes, stop it. Dude, people were- Would you have the guts to do Danny Bucks? I'd rather- Do you take any bucks remember when we went to the strip club and then because i had never been to one like this i don't know if it's an american thing where the girls dance and they just come up to you and ask you for money like yeah that was strange and then they just walk around and you have to tip because that guy we hang out with your body he's super into strip
Starting point is 00:59:40 clubs and he would just have a thing and it was it was kind of like a street performance where afterwards it was just customary. But instead of passing the bucket, you're the bucket and you walk around everybody and you guilt them into like, you know, give me five bucks or something. Yeah. But I thought the whole system was they dance. You throw money at them. Like, that's how they get paid. Maybe this is a pandemic provision. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I think that's how it works. That was insane. But that was weird because in any strip club in Canada I've ever been to, definitely not like that where they just walk around and they'll go, give us money. No, that was nuts. Yeah. But anyways, Usher Bucks.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Okay. Usher Bucks. Well, they didn't like one of the Usher songs. And then Baby, It's Cold Inside. Katy Perry, You're So Gay. And then they have R. Kelly, Age is Just just a number which again was about a 30 period you're so gay yeah and it's it's it's whatever stupid but okay we're uh getting past an hour here but the um so what i did want to talk about one kind of a bigger thing to that's more intricate or whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:45 But before that I want to announce. So as of officially, as of now we have this new studio that we're going to be moving into soon. But as of now, me and Danny will be doing two episodes a week. So, you know, a lot of new people join the Patreon every,
Starting point is 01:01:01 every week, there's going to be an extra episode on the Patreon weekly. And I used to be doing bi-weekly. So it switched to weekly five dollars if you want to join come join the movement taking this podcast to the top support the kids and the studio ain't cheap so no i and well this is the thing i'm taking all of the money as of now from this podcast and essentially investing it all back in and if anything probably still probably losing money because i'm spending so much um then we'll you know we'll figure all that out as we go money to make money yeah so you know join the patreon all that money is going directly back
Starting point is 01:01:34 into things like literally not taking any of it almost so so yeah support that and one a week new episode but before that there was uh something that I did want to talk about because so we talk a lot about, you know, and kind of what I was saying before. It's like censorship and all that stuff is probably the enemy. Right. And I kind of say a lot that which is sort of more the libertarian argument that, you know, I don't think the government's going to be do a good job if they get involved. And a lot of people kind of comment on that and i know there's very divided sort of ideas on what people should do about it right you know and so this guy i thought this was a pretty fair comment and i wanted us to comment on what we think about in
Starting point is 01:02:17 terms of censorship and what do you think is the best you know with all the social media companies and the 230 and everything so this person says i love Ryan, but one of his points that always annoys me, he says every time he talks about communications companies censoring people that we shouldn't get the government involved. What he doesn't understand about these companies like Facebook and Twitter is that they would be legally held responsible
Starting point is 01:02:37 for anything anyone says on their platform if they weren't operating under Constitutional Safe Harbor Act, which is two 30, I guess. But as a result, they are legally allowed to censor and prioritize certain people as it is a breaking the federal guidelines that is safe harbors that access that the safe
Starting point is 01:02:57 Harbor act set up. These companies should be held responsible for their censorship by the government. So they're sort of saying that, and I don't think it's like a bad faith comment, but they're sort of saying that and i don't think it's like a bad faith comment but they're sort of saying that and so i'll hear where your take is on this too of what because i've talked about this a lot but to me it sort of boils down to that i understand that and that is the conundrum so you kind of so what's the goal here is to have as least censorship as possible?
Starting point is 01:03:30 And to me, there's three options that companies have right now. And one is that Facebook, because all these companies, when they go and argue at parliament or whatever, they have the left wing people grill them and then the right wing people grill them. So they're grilled by both sides. And you have both sides, you know, the social pressure. So the government is reacting to social pressure, both sides. The right wing government's reacting to the fact that conservatives are being sensitive at a higher level and comedians sort of fall under, you know, we just sort of get killed by that. Because, you know, you're questioning the mainstream narrative or whatever. And then the liberals, there's huge social pressure people always want to take away their freedoms you know they'll always vote against their freedoms
Starting point is 01:04:08 and they're pressuring their congress people to get in their face and get their clips of telling zuckerberg you need to you know why is this on your platform and so some people think that the government should essentially get involved and the kind of and i get what the issue is because they say to libertarians are kind of like public private companies should be able to do whatever they want but the issue is well these private companies
Starting point is 01:04:30 are so in bed with all the government organizations and they essentially have a monopoly on speech exactly again it's like every utility
Starting point is 01:04:37 started as a private company and then the government was essentially saying you're too important and you can't just like you know you provide all the electricity for new york city can't do whatever the correct you want which which to some degree that's probably the part that i agree with and even so if that was the case there's an argument
Starting point is 01:04:57 to be made that that is not let's get the government involved in speech that's that's a straight up you know a law thing where it's like no there already is in free market capitalism you know monopoly issues you know if you're running a monopoly which they essentially have a monopoly on what would be like you said it's no one can say oh this guy's racist let's cut off his water you're not allowed to do that or we don't agree with this guy's political you can cut off their bank account but you can't cut off their telephone service yeah and but you could make it so difficult for them to get a land like a telephone with this guy's political... But you can cut off their bank account. But you can't cut off their telephone service. Yeah. And... But you could make it
Starting point is 01:05:27 so difficult for them to get a land... Like a telephone. You really can, actually. I see what you're saying. You know, with the credit card... You know, you shut down all their credit cards
Starting point is 01:05:34 and everything and... Legit, like... Yeah. You can kind of cut... I don't know how much you can cut the... How many people are actually getting cut off
Starting point is 01:05:40 from, like, straight up losing their bank account versus payment processors, which is a different thing because you're...'s, you know, you're a business at that point. Yeah, I think with personal people, it's a little more difficult than we're talking about. But I guess the question is, and this is kind of where I see it. I go, I see a ton of pressure from both sides. And the problem to begin with, and maybe you can say, OK, that's where we are are is that the government's so fucking wound up in all this stuff and okay so when you have the companies like let's say zuckerberg and all these people there's probably three different types of owners one what zuckerberg
Starting point is 01:06:14 is in my opinion now that they know they're just straight up going to use all this for regulatory capture you know and when you go the 230 thing there isn't a scenario where these companies can operate on without 230 so if you said these companies are liable 230 thing there isn't a scenario where these companies can operate on without 230 so if you said these companies are liable so all this is is a threat essentially to say hey all you can say is which already is in place but they're not enforcing it so you're saying hey the government should do this well exactly they haven't for five six years so you have a scenario where you go okay if you away Section 230, which means every social media company could now get sued for everything that's on their platform.
Starting point is 01:06:48 It essentially means that no one could be a social media company. There's no way that... Yeah, you can't exist. Well, you're a publisher at that point, right? You're a publisher at that point. No one could handle lawsuits. So at the very least, it would mean that only those companies could.
Starting point is 01:06:59 And that's why all these big social media companies are so behind all this stuff. And they agree, you know, they want the... Like Mark Zuckerberg went in front of Congress and he goes, we have 20,000 people going through and deleting stuff. And we we actually think you should make it higher. So you should make laws higher. And you go, well, yeah, it's like obvious regulatory capture where you go. Yeah, no shit. You want the government to make a bunch of laws so no one could ever be a social media company again.
Starting point is 01:07:23 And you got it. Oh, I don't, there's not going to be, I think that ship has sailed. I mean, they're literally, this happened in the last four years Parler was getting big. There's tons.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I don't know if Parler was ever giving Facebook any sort of run. I don't know. It was becoming pretty big. I mean, you're saying. I don't think, I don't think not to, not to that degree.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Parler was, Parler's coming back, by the way. Okay, I know. I think it already is back, which is on phones or whatever. But my point is, and that is very... Parler sucked. Okay, but whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:52 But my point is, there's smaller ones, and all of the government stuff just helps these huge companies to have more of the monopoly. And I think there's... I guess what I sort of see is, I go, and maybe this is what I'm missing. Tell me one scenario where the government took on the problem and it ended with more freedoms. Do you know what I mean? Where you go, hey, here's your like constitution and that's what it is or whatever. Let's get the government involved more. And, and then you ended at the other side of that with more freedoms. and then you ended at the other side of that with more freedoms.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I've only seen the government, and because the government is accountable to citizens, and citizens want their freedoms taken away always. So to me, the idea of getting the government involved in this, well, I see what people think. They go, well, if conservatives could just get their act together, and they can control the government, we could sort of... They just did.
Starting point is 01:08:44 What do you mean, with Trump? Yeah. And it didn't happen? No, because it's... act together and they can control the government you know we can sort of they just did what do you mean with trump yeah and what where it didn't happen no because it's like it's first off you're not going to please there's no scenario where they go okay here's the perfect solution everybody's happy right yeah like it's never going to happen you're always going to have well i mean the best thing that i think i think this david sacks guy says that but and some people are saying this which probably the closest solution that i agree with is that because that what i said they're the first one is the ones that have regulatory capture you know this that love this you know the second one is the twitters which i think actually legitimately have some type of political agenda
Starting point is 01:09:18 and then the third one and i don't i can't this may be to some degree zuckerberg when he's not or whatever some of these people don't want to be involved, this may be to some degree Zuckerberg when he's not, or whatever. Some of these people don't want to be involved in this game. They go, yeah, listen, we don't want to hire fucking 30,000 people to be censoring.
Starting point is 01:09:32 It's like this is, you know, we don't want to be involved in censoring speech, but it's, you know, you're, this is the situation we're in.
Starting point is 01:09:38 I mean, you'll turn into literally 4chan overnight if you don't. Okay, so, right. So if these people people if they said that that these you know once a place is big enough that it's become a utility it should be regulated
Starting point is 01:09:55 under the under the first amendment and to me that's so they have to regulate according to that which is you know and again these so then that's where the fights take place which is well what is that and what are those things and that becomes a law case which is the gist of everything you know you fight that those become court cases before between and that's where you have legal precedent right and so i don't know how to get that pushed through but i think that's the thing that makes sense once these things are utilities they should be in accordance with the first Amendment. If they're not utilities, and I think that you would say, for example, if you ran a site that goes, you know, we have a website. And the purpose of that website is for people to come and talk about their dogs. And then some guy comes and everyone's talking about their dogs and it's for moms or whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:38 And everyone comes on and, you know, starts saying, you know, let's say they just start swearing too much, you know, and you't want swearing on the site and you like i i do think that these companies should be able to kick someone off but it's yeah for sure the problem with facebook this discussion is the scale right right but it's a crazy network effect yeah facebook had a million users nobody cares what they're doing like nobody cares what smaller it's when everybody all of a sudden is like hey we're all using this it's impossible for someone to start a new one just based on that network effect where the more people, it's like the more valuable
Starting point is 01:11:10 the whole overall thing is. It's just like nobody's going to... TikTok is maybe like... Yeah, what do you mean? That was a new one that came out. TikTok, nobody's posting. There's no text on TikTok. Well, maybe it'll change though.
Starting point is 01:11:21 They all evolve. Yeah. They all evolve into something new. I mean, when Facebook... TikTok has its own problems. When Facebook first started, it wasn't a political propaganda site evolve yeah you know they all like evolve into something new i mean you know when tiktok has its own problems when facebook first started it wasn't a political propaganda you know by the way i was listening on some podcast where it's like tiktok is uh i can't remember what the company is bite dance bite dance is like this crazy technology company and tiktok is just like one of their things they're they're like i can't remember if they're like an advertising or like uh exactly what are. But like TikTok is actually like a small part of their business.
Starting point is 01:11:46 And it was just a demonstration of like how good their algorithm stuff are or whatever. And it just like blew up. But they're like, they're this huge company outside of TikTok. I didn't realize. I knew ByteDance bought TikTok, but I didn't know the scope of that. So I think that, you know, there's this when you look at you know right now it's the one side being censored more than the other because that's who controls you know whatever the establishment and it seems to have the ear more than politicians and the conservative
Starting point is 01:12:15 politicians they play the you know the ted cruz of the world play the dog and pony show of pretending we're fighting for you know this but it's like at the end of the day they just know that's popular to get their clips, but they don't actually give a shit. And they don't, no one's incentivized to, like, really get these problems through. And it's the same thing, okay, you know, the conservatives, were they for, you know, freedom and people not looking at your phones after 9-11? You know, they were very pro the government taking away
Starting point is 01:12:45 your freedom right so it flips and flops back and forth yeah but the idea of well we can solve this problem through the government i mean i see maybe if you could come to a consensus of what the government's role and set it the way that you set a constitution government was saying they're gonna you know treat facebook like a utility i think it would just be a mess maybe but if they could say utilities operate on the first amendment you can't threaten people whatever the fuck else is in there you know you can't go on twitter and now say oh i'm there's a a fire at my house and everybody's whatever it is like an isp, you can get kicked off of an ISP for doing, like an internet service provider, as far as I understand, for doing certain things.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Like if you're running like a, you know, I don't know, some scam or something, the ISP's like, we don't want to do business with you. Right. Granted, there's other ISPs, but I don't know. Yeah, you can't have some scenario where we're going to kick nobody off ever for anything well i mean everyone even that you know everybody can agree that there's
Starting point is 01:13:51 one person who deserves to be kicked off for something well and especially when you want run a board i mean you know there's some that are like you said 4chan or 8chan or whatever but it's like anyone i think how many comedians friends do we know that are super against censorship and then they you know block and kick people out of their own fucking, you know, groups or patrons or whatever it is. So the issue is to me that a it's lopsided and B it's incentivized to just keep getting worse. And I think it's like it's like a giant, you know, just like it's like a giant ship. You know, it's very hard to steer at this point it's so big that yeah but i saw things like parlor and whether you liked it or not as positive
Starting point is 01:14:31 and you know it is good to have this social pressure and you know people are kind of competition's great yeah but also people you know not happy about this censorship it's like again fucking again there is the's jack dorsey who probably has a political agenda but there's a lot of people that run you know you know we know people that are fucking you know super rich dudes that run things these people a lot of them uh pale to the woke mob or whatever and they don't want to no it's just they're just fucking pathological yeah and maybe it becomes the path that maybe some of them are realizing that it's not the word. But but to me, a lot of the problem is that the government was fucking involved in the first place.
Starting point is 01:15:09 The fact that, you know, Jack Dorsey can lobby these fucking politicians. And well, he started, you know, he started this thing. And then all of a sudden he had this control, this power. It's almost like that. The documentary thing we watch, the people who built America or whatever, you know, it rockefeller all of a sudden was like this guy who's this nobody then all of a sudden he had this like he was one percent of the entire country's gdp and he was so influential on an entire country that they were like we have to do something about this you can't we can't have one person have this much influence even if it was got the influence based on merit yeah they at some point
Starting point is 01:15:44 have to say, this is kind of getting... Well, what do you think, if the government was to solve this, I guess that would be the idea, was that the conservative politicians would be able to rally together and do this. What would that look like? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:15:57 The only thing I can think they could do is just keep pressuring them and hope that the social networks can figure this out themselves i know facebook did some sort of panel like if you get kicked off they have some diverse panel of all like political leanings and professions or whatever that they're putting 30 million which actually sounded sort of positive but again it's like who who picks these and there'll always be someone like you know there'll be some that was my biggest problem is that there's no one to go to i said you know if you're 15 years old and you go to jail
Starting point is 01:16:28 you'd serve your time and you live your life if you're 15 years old and you get kicked off one of these platforms you're off for the rest of your life you essentially get a life sentence and there's no one to appeal it to i mean to me that's a problem and so there needs to be you know again i don't like it seems like a court i mean really you just get a new phone number and you're back on well not not if you're uh, not if you're a public figure. Not if you're a public figure. If you're any sort of public figure, they'll just go. I mean, if you get any traction.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Yeah, like Stefan Molyneux can't just be like, make a new Twitter. No, they go, he's back, and they'll take him off. I mean, we know people that have been kicked off and they got to make fake names. But again, they have 10,000, 15,000. But if that got to 100,000, they'd just kick him off again. Immersion. Or whatever. You know, like Anthony Cumia is that deal. So, I don't know. thousand but if that got to a hundred thousand they'd just kick him off again immersion or whatever fucking you know like anthony coombe is that deal so i don't know that it's kind of one
Starting point is 01:17:11 of those things where but you also can't it is like a it's not i think a lot of people think that there's like this just simple elegant solution to this but there's not there's not like you can't have i think have public will is i mean the truth is honestly the reason why all this censorship is taking place is because there's a huge public will for it and the fact that there's people against that it does help you can't have no rules like you have to probably at least start at that point well but my point is you have rules it's called the Amendment. Those rules kind of exist. Well, but doesn't the First Amendment
Starting point is 01:17:47 essentially say on something like a Twitter that there are then no rules? Well, that depends if it's, if speech is a public utility and if they have a monopoly on it. And if they do, and if they're essentially the town square, which is, you know, kind of the argument.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Twitter's definitely not the town square. Facebook closer to it, I'd say. Well, all of them combine, you know, whatever. It's a, you know, a joint monopoly or whatever, if you want to. What's that called when there's oligopoly? Well, there's three or four. But I mean, if you take Facebook, I guess Facebook and Instagram are one company. So between Facebook, Twitter, and Google.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Yeah, Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp is one company. Yeah, so it's an oligarchy. YouTube, Google. Like, YouTube, Google is like crazy. And they all move in lockstep. Because they kind of like, I feel, get less scrutiny. But like YouTube, Google, they have more, in my opinion, more power than any of the other ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:32 And when they talk about- Search and video? The idea is to, the idea, it seems like the idea, ideally, with the 230 thing, when they go repeal the 230. Really, the goal was, let's,'s you know and this is what trump was trying to do is scare these companies into obeying exactly and that's the only option so what happens you you repeal it and then you go on youtube and you make or someone goes on you who's a vlogger and talks shit about somebody especially in america the most and then you sue litigious country on earth and then you're so what just all the day one every i mean i think
Starting point is 01:19:07 50 million lawsuits yeah it might be hard to sue google but it might yeah i don't know you know they have the lawyer no because it would be all it would be all these lawyers who say yeah so you don't pay us any money it seems like that's just fucking not happening never these places are way too powerful the idea that you're just going to essentially make it impossible to run a site it's just not they could be forced to be broken up i could see that yeah it seems like that's where they are will say you know you're like for facebook you have but how does that solve the see and again it depends on what your goal is and if you're a fucking you know communist or whatever and you think that these you know google's bad for reasons that they're you know other reasons but if your issue is the speech thing breaking them up doesn't help that at all
Starting point is 01:19:50 if anything it probably hurts well maybe it might hurt it because if anything it's you know they're being so watched it's like well we better you know uh collaborate with these politicians that wanted us to not say the wrong thing yeah but also it's like say you spin off you go you go we're gonna spin off Facebook and Instagram. They're already their own companies, really. Like they operate in their own companies. It just happens to be Facebook's the owner of them. But you sell them to a new owner,
Starting point is 01:20:16 say whoever buys them or Instagram lists as its own public company and they're separate or whatever. Still the same employees. Yeah. Still the same people running it. Like you're not getting rid of everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:27 So if you were, if you were to say the perfect solution in your mind to the fact that, you know, uh, people can be kicked off and there's censoring and there's, you know, for example, if you say the wrong medical information, all that, whatever, all this stuff, if you would say in a perfect world, what would be your best solution? I don't know. I mean, there's not one that that's what i think i know it's not do you think it's a public will issue like it's really this needs to i think 90 more popular of an issue legit like 98 percent of people couldn't give a fuck about this this question i think it's less i think it's uh more people than two percent give a fuck about it but i agree about the actual like censorship on social media think it's less i think it's uh more people than two percent give a
Starting point is 01:21:05 fuck about it but i agree about the actual like censorship on social media well it's been very politicized so i think it's been clumped into other issues where if you're on one side it kind of becomes your cause right so i think a lot of people that um you know let's say you think fauci's a fucking clown i think you know that's a whole demographic of people. Yeah, but people are nonstop online saying he's a clown. And all the people they've been watching saying that if they've watched them get censored and taken down. Let's say the big group of people that thought the election, you're part of the Stop the Steal thing, right?
Starting point is 01:21:37 And that's a whole big cohort of people that's against censorship now. So I think that enough people have been censored that there's a lot of people that have sort of been against the joint the left-wing bias thing is a hundred percent like no question if it was the other way around and biden lost and he was saying stop the steal whatever like we got screwed and blah blah blah facebook would 100 allow that they wouldn't support it they supported they put it on their main page they wouldn't put up any notification so like the political the political leanings of these companies are definitely an issue but also forever like you know there was this whole thing where you don't ask people what their political leanings are you know who did you vote for it's like it's none of your business yeah so how do
Starting point is 01:22:20 you shift like a dude obviously what a dude yeah but how do you shift like a giant- A dude, obviously. What? A dude. Yeah, but how do you shift like a giant company's political culture? You know, what you hire for, you say, oh, we're all like, you know how companies are like, we're only hiring women or like we're only hiring Republicans. No, you can't. You can't. But I think the answer is there has to be, you know, I mean, that's why things like constitutions are good is because it's sort of set and you don't- Constitutions are the's why things like constitutions are good is because it's sort of set and you don't constitutions are the shit you know constitutions are sick i love constitutions
Starting point is 01:22:50 well i'd like to see some sort of appeal thing but i mean no an appeal again that would be the most fair thing and an appeal thing a secondary appeal thing like but again if it's run by the government i'm out it's like i'd want a court but it's like you want government, I'm out. It's like, I'd want a court, but it's like, you want a lawyer. You know what? And I would say, I'd like to be able to have a lawyer that goes to, you know, fight if I got kicked off of places, but he's not going to that company.
Starting point is 01:23:12 He's going to a, I would agree with impartial board. I would agree with you on that one, where if you're someone like Stefan Molyneux, you hire a lawyer, you go to they, Facebook brings their lawyer. You can prove it.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Yeah. You go, look, I'm not a racist. This is what I say. Let's say that you said your data that they say is wrong you go this is my data that supports my thing you go you're saying that this is misinformation but i have the proof to say this actually happened here's 10 medical professionals that would actually be fairly uh fairly reasonable i think i don't know if like what legal precedent would allow that where like a court would hear this case.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Maybe you set up there. Well, maybe that's maybe there's a new, you know how there's traffic court. Yeah. Maybe there's cancel court or something. I don't know. Judges in session.
Starting point is 01:23:56 We just catch it. It's a court. Judges in session. So maybe this goes and maybe, you know, that's actually, you know, I think a lot.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah. I think a lot of people think that they have the answer for this. I would say if Stefan Molyneux, just as using his example, if he got to go get a lawyer, give his case in front of an actual jury. Yeah. And then the jury was still said, yeah, you should be kicked off. I think you'd be like, OK, I think he would accept that. I think he would say, OK, I'm my bad. If 12 people. I don i think you'd be like okay i think he would accept that i think he would say okay i i'm my bad if 12 people i don't think he'd say that but but i'm saying
Starting point is 01:24:29 like he's this philosopher guy you know all this stuff if he said okay 12 random people i gave my whole case they still thought that at least at least i lost at least i lost you know but it's not about deserving or not it's did I break the laws as they're written on the Google sheet? And so that, that's the question. It's, it's not about, it's these things.
Starting point is 01:24:49 They go, you're not allowed to do this. The question is, did you, no, no, no. But even in the private business,
Starting point is 01:24:56 someone can't say to you, Hey, this pizza's a 50 bucks. And then you get a bill for $500. The same reason someone can't say, Hey, you're going to be kicked off this platform if you say this. And then you didn't say that and they kick you off anyway.
Starting point is 01:25:09 Just interpreted you as saying that. Exactly. So that it's like the interpretation. I think a lot of people would argue that there would be some sort of, there could be, you know, for example, they could afford to have some sort of adjudication process.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Well, I don't want it to be from them because the, you know, that's a fucking clown, a kangaroo court. It's a, you know, maybe there's a kangaroo court there's like an independent body that's funded by all the social funded by all the social media companies they have to pay and they have to pay into it because they make so much money they pay into it but it's completely arms
Starting point is 01:25:41 autonomous arms length and it's autonomous from the government it's like arm's length. It's autonomous. Arm's length. And it's autonomous from the government, too. It's like, you know how police, they have the investigative, that investigates the police. Yeah. So they're police, but their only job is to investigate stuff the police do. They're arm's length from the police department. Something like that. I guess we're back to the government dealing with it. But that would be the government dealing with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Because nobody would trust. Well, maybe I'm switching that maybe that would be better than nothing. It's probably like a mix of something. Maybe it's a mix of something. I don't know if it's, there isn't just these. I'll tell you what isn't happening. They're just going to repeal 230 and no one can be a social media platform anymore. No.
Starting point is 01:26:20 I mean, it's just a pipe dream. It's not going to happen. No chance it's happening. Not in America. There's too much money on the line yeah but anyways okay well
Starting point is 01:26:28 I feel like a couple people comment on that and it's a complicated one so I wanted to fucking anyways maybe you still think we're idiots or I'm an idiot or whatever but that's what I think about it
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