The Boyscast with Ryan Long - College Is For Girls w/ Chris Williamson

Episode Date: February 18, 2022

In today's Boyscast we sit down with our friend Chris Williamson and go over Jordan Peterson's tour, the Jimmy Carr controversy, whether or not college is for girls and dating in 2022. Chris Williamson is a Podcaster & Youtuber with 25 million+ downloads. Ryan @ryanlongcomedy Danny @dannyjokes Chris @chriswillx https://www.patreon.com/theboyscast SUPPORT THE SPONSORS AT: Athleticgreens.com/boyscast - Free 1 Year Of VItamin D & 5 Free Travel Packs Butcherbox.com/boyscast - 7 Pounds Free Meat On First Order LEAVE US A FIVE STAR REVIEW! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Low-value. low value no what I was thinking is that every dude has a million skills that they learned when they were younger you know walking on your hands

whatever it is juggling yo-yo is a shit that that is not valuable right now that's which sucks like if you go to a party and you go

hey if a girl if a girl goes hey is there any dudes here who can beatbox nine guys it's like well there's an actual real correlation to your age

and how pathetic these things become to actually continue. Pulling the guy, pulling out a yo-yo. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you're the yo-yo guy when you're 45 at like a dinner party.

You're like, yeah, it's probably the last time we're inviting this guy in. Well, that's the problem, though, because you spend all this time with all these skills that were age-specific. You know, all the girls

were fucking yo-yo guys when you were younger. but then you'll never use that in real life there's no scenario where you need to use skill where it's like oh my god this guy he's dying can anyone here do a kickflip that's why with dudes you see them get a skateboard in front of them they all everyone tries to get in the thing but i'm officially declared and by the way we're doing a bit of a different episode today so me and dan you're gonna talk for a bit and then we have chris williamson coming in so he's a super cool guy and he's like uh he's out there doing dates with jordan peterson and stuff like that and it's uh normally a lot of times we brought our our boys on who are like comedians to kind of fuck around with us yeah but we're trying this episode we're

gonna have uh a separate thing where we're actually gonna you know talk to him and ask him about his shit yeah and then i mean he's a sharp dude and he's got a lot of uh cool ideas yeah and it's a kind of you know thinks a lot about the stuff we talk about a little bit and then on after that we're gonna do the patreon episode uh and go through articles just me and danny kind of what we also can i just say one thing uh for people who are watching? Just if you're in New York, March 10th, I'm doing a stand-up recording March 10th at Brooklyn Comedy Club. Link in my bio on Twitter or whatever to get tickets.

Three shows, 7, 9, and 11. That'd be cool if you come out. So come to Danny's thing. I'll be there hanging. And also we're doing, I'll be releasing my special in a couple of weeks. And what I just wanted to say, so I'm officially declaring war

on what I would consider the worst company in the world. I would say it goes, this is worse than Monsanto. Yeah. This is worse. All of big tech combined, I put one lower than Blink Fitness. Nice.

So these are the lowest. Blink Fitness. I have a war on Christmas. So we have our own wars. They're the lowest fitness i have a war on christmas so i have a war of our own wars they're they're the lowest of the low they are notorious this has been a three year debacle so during the pandemic these i i was going there right then i decide would they go we're freezing everyone's memberships right then they unfroze the memberships but they said if you want to work out you need to wear a mask and all that stuff. I know, I was going there.

No, not even you have to wear a mask. Correct. You have to make an appointment. I was doing this. You have to make an appointment to come in. The appointments were one hour max. You had to make an appointment for one hour, and then you make the appointment, show up there, freezing cold, February, March, and they make you wait outside for an hour.

That's what it was. And so I'm like, why do I have to make the appointment if you're making me wait outside it's ridiculous cold and then they're like yeah the whole like the showers aren't scumbinos no terrible they're the same owners as equinox too this is their fucking discount bullshit but you don't you know equinox is not treating people like that well so yes exactly and i'm like okay i'm not doing that so just cancel my thing and they go well you can't cancel so i go on the i'm you know i'm talking to three different people they keep charging my card and they're like the only thing you can do is um now they've charged me for three months which i didn't notice so basically i owe them 150 bucks right so yeah

what do you well i didn't know for three months that i was getting charged until i had this conversation i go hey if you guys because i gotta it didn't go through because my credit card dump and i got a call from them basically being like, you haven't been paying and I'm like, hey, I'm unfrozen. And then they're like, well, we unfrozen the whole thing, right?

Then I go find out that if I'm going to work out there, it's all this bullshit. And I go, yeah, first of all, I didn't know you unfroze and I don't want to do this. And the thing is you have to send a physical letter, right?

Yeah, so I owe them or go in. So I owe them 150 bucks or whatever. Right. And I'm like, I don't want to pay this money because you, I've not been offered the service I have to, but whatever. Yes. So eventually I have to go into Blink Fitness, which isn't even that close. Remember I went for you.

Yeah. And it didn't work. Cause I go, my friend and they go, yeah, he's, he has to come in and then even coming in cause I had my own problem. They won't let you cancel on the phone. So I go into this hell hole. They go fine. We'll let you cancel or the phone so i go into this hellhole they go fine we'll let you cancel or whatever i have to pay off the money then they go you can go debate the

money whatever else but there's no real way to do it so i just take the hit pay the thing cancel it this was a year and a half ago three months ago i start getting blink fitness charges again gyms i mean gyms in general and then and then the same thing happened and they go oh yeah we froze your membership and then we took it off frozen i go what and then i talk to people i go hey i already went through this i sent them all the emails being like hey here's me sending 40 emails cancel my membership and they go yeah i don't know what to tell you it didn't get canceled we froze it so instead the girl goes yeah we're canceling and she just pressed froze and she says they're doing it again so this thing which i was at the end of my wits with is happening a second time and i declare all

out war if you if you if you work out at blink fitness if you if you work out in general if you're working out in general this is you are part of the problem if you've lifted a dumbbell or a barbell yes by the way not not to they are tainted these is this is a organization of career criminals yeah these people should be selling crack on a street corner they are scum dirt the lowest of the low say though my shares in their company have been going up but what you really need to do though right is you need to call the credit card company and dispute the charges. That's what I'm... The problem is I'm spending fucking... Now I'm 24 hours deep into saving $100.

Yeah, no, no, no. Dude, it's such a simple process. I've had PayPal... Or not PayPal, StubHub. I had something with StubHub where they just randomly charged me $300. And StubHub, they have one of those things where they go like, call us to figure it out.

But then you can't get a hold. It's by design that it drives you so crazy like the airlines where you can never get a hold of them. All you do, you call your credit card company. You say, I didn't authorize this payment. I think I'm going to have to. No, dude. It's the easy – especially if it's like you just call them and say, I don't authorize these payments. Then they have to go – basically, they refund all the money within a window.

You're not going to get the year and a half, but you'll get whatever. All right. Well, I guess that's the move. Then they go to Blink Fitness and they say, hey, someone disputed this charge. Prove that like they and then they'll say we don't have any proof and that'll be the end of it. And the other thing. So I'm. This company is dead to me.

I'd rather I'd want them to rot in their graves. Dude, if you go, like the thing is, go look Blink Fitness reviews online. There are 10, this is their business model. And I got got. What you are saying right now is their literal business model. Scamming.

Of scamming people. They're like half Jim, half Ponzi. They're one step, I would say, below, in my opinion, the people that go try to scam old people out of their social security checks. Yeah, because they're scamming young people. Real fucking nerd bags. Want to know another interesting thing?

So now everyone says the crime's up in America or in New York or whatever. I mean, my girlfriend is literally, she's like, because she loves- Been stealing? What? No, she loves the fear porn, murder porn stuff. And there was that girl, the Asian girl, who just got killed the other day in Chinatown or whatever.

And there's – yeah, it's pretty crazy. This guy is straight up – like my girlfriend is like obsessed with it. But followed this girl at 4.30 in the morning, got out – it's really actually sad and like really unlucky. Got out of her taxi at 4.30 in the morning in her walk up in chinatown as she walks in this guy literally so he must have been within 50 feet just kind of skulking around looking to murder somebody or rape somebody and then as and he was classic because new york has this like he was on bail out on bail for some bunch of other shit already and then as she goes in he just like sneaks in follows her up to like her apartment and like kills her it's pretty fucked up so she's

been worried about that well she's she's like new york's on she goes danny he just like sneaks in, follows her up to like her apartment and like kills her. It's pretty fucked up. So she's been worried about that. Well, she's, she's like New York. She goes, Danny. And I tried to tell her, I'm like, look like the odds of this. It's not like a regular. She calls Danny. She goes, I'm scared that someone's going to break into my house and kill me. So I need you to come over here and call some, a real man.

I'm not even exaggerating. If you wouldn't mind. Danny, do you know any men who would be able to protect me? She made me a piece of shit last night because she's like, you know, a bit like, you know, she just gets caught up in this stuff in the news and she reads all the YouTube. And last night she goes like, well, I had just finished my show. It was 1.45 in the morning. I'm talking to her and she's like, would you maybe come over here?

I'm like, no, I'm not coming over there. Nah, just paying too much. Nah, dog. Nah, dog. Nah, I ain't coming over there. I'm like, if you're going to make me, I i guess but please don't make me come over there right now it's cold out i'm tired i'm like about to go to bed well they have a i'm like again she was in a doorman building like nobody's coming to murder you like yeah but if they are you're not gonna

stop but like the sad thing is with this girl is like it was if she just walked in and closed that door behind her, alive. Whoa. And she just like kind of like swung it open and then he just snuck in. Let that be a lesson. Yeah. I mean, New York City, I tell people and you know, because people are like, crime's bad. Our buddy JJ moved here and he was asking me about crime. I go, look, you got to be aware in any large city of your surroundings.

Like you're not in fucking Omaha or some shit or whatever. Like be aware in any large city of your surroundings like you're not in fucking omaha or some shit or whatever like be aware he's sitting here with seth rogan i mean no it's seth rogan oh yeah i guess that was his thing right with the car i mean well anyway listen what they have they have a fucking when you open something at the pharmacy so there's you know like a chocolate bar or whatever no they you have to open up to get the thing? Yeah. If you open up the thing, it goes, it starts beeping and the thing starts speaking and it says, to keep prices low, we've increased security. So please do not steal. And it basically apologizes that you can't steal.

This is at the Union Square, the CVS or pharmacy or whatever it's called. You know what's crazy actually called so they basically have a computer that apologizes to people because they can't steal they go uh just so you know that uh you are not allowed to take this we have cameras on you but this is only so we can keep our prices they apologize that they can't steal from you that's uh that's pretty wild i actually went in there last night before my show to grab a drink and every you know they have those digital fridges that are fucking annoying yeah where everything's on so you don't have to open them or whatever and every single one of them was like the whole store was like empty like the the literally the union square one and i honestly thought

but i'm like are they going to business or something or or i was like did they sell everything they just sold out everything today. I couldn't really get a grip of what was going on. It seems like maybe somewhere in between. But they had zero drinks in the whole. Yeah, it's wild. Not one drink. Well, I'm also dating a psychopath that didn't know the name.

Thought Macaulay Culkin was pronounced Macaulay Culkin. Shut up. That sounds like one of your, because you know how you like to fuck with her with stuff? Yeah. You know, where you have your little things and you describe, oh, it's this person. Well, I always tell you. That sounds like one of your, because you know how you like to fuck with her with stuff? Yeah. You know, where you have your little things to go and you describe, oh, it's this person.

Well, I always tell her the wrong thing. So then she'll say it to other people. Maybe she's, maybe she's. Like, I'll be like, oh no, it's pronounced Joe Rogan. Yeah.

Exactly. So they'll say it to someone else. You think she's trying to get one on you? I think so. But the thing that was making me laugh is there's these, there's this guy on YouTube that legitimately has a gazillion views and he does these videos that is just the whole YouTube video

is just how to pronounce a word. Look, I'm going to play one of them. And I'm not kidding. This guy has 10 trillion views on these videos. I mean, the guy's a millionaire because of this. American pronunciations are similar here. B-C. And now you know who like and subscribe. That was the video. I mean, the guy's a millionaire because of this. American pronunciations are similar here. Busy. And now you know

who like and subscribe. That was the video. How to pronounce the word busy. Yeah. 10 trillion views. More importantly, this guy lives in a mansion because of this.

Okay, here's another one. Raya and the Last Dragon. You're looking at how to pronounce this name as well as how to say more interesting names that many get confused by. So make sure to stay tuned

to the channel if you're enjoying learning. How do you say it correctly? Raya. Raya. And the last dragon. Raya. That's it. I mean, genius.

He's a little genius. Yeah, there's a whole channel. And he does every, you went through every word in the dictionary. He has 10 trillion videos. You would split 100 a day. Yeah, he's a genius. He goes, today we are doing the word

telling you how to pronounce the word the the anyways thanks for don't forget to like and subscribe think about

the algorithm right he has 100% of all of his videos get watched because they're 10 seconds long so it's so crazy

well dude not everybody speaks English I know but it's so funny I guess because that's the thing. We did the same thing as us, where you type in, you go, how do you fucking pronounce that? Yeah, he's a little... I remember my ex...

That's a hustle. My ex, we were talking about this. I know, he made all the money from doing the crappy tutorials. Right when YouTube started. How to make an egg. How to make an egg. How to hard boil an egg. How to screw a screw.

And this guy literally makes millions of dollars a year because he's the one that comes up. I know. And a lot of people all over the world. we are working on the word uh carpet carpet thanks for signing in uh like and subscribe dude it's insane anyways okay guys thank you for tuning in the boys cast we're gonna bring chris williamson on and we we talked about you know a lot of the stuff we were sort of talking about which was you know dude's not going to college all that shit yeah uh the best way to live your life like some fucking life hack guy yeah so yeah and he and he kind of had like an interesting life so without further ado this is our boy chris williams sim and oh also uh well not so fast

not so fast i thought us. Not so fast. You thought you had us there, didn't you? Yeah, you thought you were about to listen to us talking with Chris Williamson. Yeah, message us. Now we don't know if he's coming on. Maybe he's not here. He's behind the door right now and just being like, what the fuck is this? What am I listening to? All right.

Well, message us, especially on the Patreon, and tell us what you think of these type of episodes. All right. Peace. You know, message us, especially on the Patreon, and tell us what you think of these type of episodes. All right, peace. You were on tour with Jordan Peterson, and then he gets in a fight with the guy, like a fist fight? No, none of this is correct, Brian. Don't do your thing. He's been getting pretty ornery lately.

I could see, like, some artist, page six, Jordan Peterson. I mean, everyone in Canada is unhappy at the moment, aren't they? Oh, he's, and he's not even, like, he's all out and about. We have friends who are legit stuck there. Yeah, no, it was just, we were there, and this lady came over and wasn't happy with the fact that, the issue was not sufficiently quickly putting our masks on after sipping. Yeah, yeah.

That was the issue. And then, obviously, you end up with a conversation that goes, well, what do you mean by sip exactly? that goes well what do you mean by sip exactly sure and what do you mean by mask is it jordan peterson sam yeah and she's probably like works on broadway so she probably knows who jordan peterson is she fucking like i don't know man i don't i don't know what she what she thought she was doing but if she didn't know who she was getting into an argument with you just think about don't yeah don't choose him oh no it's it's like it's like deciding to start a fistfight with someone and then realizing that they're an mma profession yeah and he's calling her like a tyrant and she's like i

it ended up it was you know and then you just hear boom johnson jordan peterson dude that's so funny so he's in real life he's not taking no shit either no i mean he's especially lately like his twitter is like he's really getting like he's the whole government of canada is pissing him off he's not happy camper right now oh well i suppose is he happy camper in real life oh he's fucking dope yeah he's great but then if you if you mention trudeau he's unhappy yeah but then who's who is you know know what? I'll tell you this. So this is like a kind of interesting thing. But I was on Twitter last night.

And so, you know, there's this whole trucker convoy thing that's going on in Ottawa, that whole thing. And so we have like, you know, because I have a lot of comedian friends and a lot of people who are in comedy are like pretty far on the left. And so I was like kind of going into like that world of Twitter of the people who like agree with him and like kind of love him for it and it's really like bizarre stuff because they're all calling the truckers fascists like that's the whole because they're the anti-fascist so then therefore they're like the truckers are fascist but then like Trudeau is like literally enacting these like emergency wartime measures yeah even though there has yet to be like a single act of violence or whatever and like it's just so but like there are two people living in two

different country for a while for security concerns right yeah well he i think he went to to fee he went out west he had like a cabin malice malice mentioned this to me he said well the problem is if you have a convoy of nazi truck as a black man, you're going to be very concerned. Oh, quite. So the question on everyone's mind is one, is there groupies on the Peterson tour? No,

there's no groupies. There's no, you and Peterson running a train on some chick. No, no. Well, that's the thing. If,

cause if they seen him naked, Nope. No, but that's the thing is like, if they are real groupies of his they would be very polite and like they're married could you imagine what they were doing though they're reading the bible on an evening that's like his groupies are like yeah i'm married i would never consider straying like yeah his groupies are just proper fans well behaved well behaved people it is wild

to see people turn up to a show so well dressed bacheloretteachelorette party? Yeah, precisely. It's like a wedding. What's going on here? Yeah, well, because he started rocking. I remember we were living in Toronto, and he started having his whole ascendance, and he started wearing that three-piece suit. He was wearing the regular suit, and then he started wearing the three.

And then you'd see it as things, like people wearing the three-piece suit. Yeah, serious. Yeah. I love the idea of the bachelorette party showing up to the Jordan Peterson party. With sashes. Sashes on.

Woo! Take them off! Yeah, they just thought they were going to a show. The hen party. Yeah, the hen party at the Peterson. Hey, one thing that I feel like you could weigh in on, in Britain, Jimmy Carr is going through it right now, right? Serious, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's like a huge star there, right? I don't know what the equivalent would be in the US, but he does all of the biggest shows as the host in the middle, quiz shows. There's this big thing called 8 Out of 10 Cats. They do an end-of-year version where the biggest comedians from everything go on, and he's the host of that.

He's pretty much adored, but he's also... I like Jimmy Carr. Is he bigger than Lee Evans? Who's bigger between the two of them? I would say Jimmy Carr's more current and probably bigger as well now. He's a big star. Yeah, I remember Lee Evans. I used to watch when I was a kid a lot on Just for Laughs.

And then I hadn't, like, you know, he kind of, in terms of, like, international, I hadn't heard of him. I go, I wonder what he's up to. And I Google him. He's, like, selling out the O2 arena. Crush hat. Like, you're, like, huge, like, as big as he gets like straight up crushing it yeah jimmy car so i mean for the people that don't know the jimmy car joke that he told was that he was saying the holocaust it was

in a section actually called career enders so there's a section of his special called career enders so he's already realized that this is well he does comedy very british in that it's you know he does the joke and then a lot he does the minute and a half of now the thing about that joke and then he goes yeah yeah he does he does a lot of one-liners then he spends like three minutes on explaining kind of why yeah yeah i think he's probably i would be interested to hear what you think he's probably one of the best one-line joke comedians absolutely yeah there yeah that's like a British style too. Like even our friends, like think about like Adam Jamal

and those guys that were in Toronto that lived there for a while. They all had that style of zany one-liners. So he said during the Holocaust, the Nazi war machine killed 5 million Jews, but nobody ever talks about the fact that they killed 500,000 gypsies because nobody ever wants to talk about the positives yeah and the crowd

it's the intake of breath and then laughter and that special's been up for a while yeah special's been up for that's the funny part four months and then it's just whatever twitter gets a hold of same thing with rogan that video of rogan has been floating i've seen it i know i've been jacking off to it it's been spank prime spank bank material and that's been around for it but you get it at the right time when the person's in the right whatever and this is yeah you figure out the way to just like so and what i was loving the idea of uh you know what happens to apologies after you apologize to the mob and then like a factory and it's the whole factory and it's like just a big paper shredding like we take the videos here

and then we grind them up and we turn it into mulch and we actually turn that shit into farm mulch like they've there's they're completely useless there's nothing they do with them right but with jimmy carr too that's his that's his whole thing he did sort of say he goes i don't know he just one of those things where he goes oh yeah sorry i don't know well he says that but it's not like an out of context thing where this was a joke like Jad Apatow said. And people are like, whoa, that doesn't really like his. No, that's his whole deal.

His whole thing. I'm like, I am the darkest comedian on Earth. No one's seen that. I'm gone. Jimmy Carr said that. Exactly. No one's surprised. It's not.

It's everybody who was there was like, oh, Jimmy. Here we go again. Yeah. He's survived. That's what they're there for. Yeah, he'll survive. Oh, he'll survive. It feels like Netflix does have sort of uh you

know like i was they almost need like a girl netflix and a guy netflix and they do it's the algorithm does that have you ever logged into a girl's netflix i guess because you're right they're not watching the jimmy car clip on netflix they're watching the jimmy car clip on twitter some okay sometimes i log in my girlfriend will be at her house and so her netflix she has her profile it's complete there is almost nothing that's the same as mine yeah hers doesn't have any gay porn on no no gay porn whatsoever uh but yeah like literally completely opposite of mine other than you know the 10 things that are trending and then everything else is just chick shows yeah that's fucking wild it's i don't know man the the netflix seems to be pretty pro comedy though generally dave chappelle put that up that

was uh the jimmy car thing that's gonna they basically built their a big part of their brand on comedy and then that was kind of before you know comedy is the easiest thing to point to we won't talk about this stuff to produce too yeah in terms of bang for your buck it's easiest thing to point to. We won't talk about this forever. He's the cheapest stuff to produce, too. Yeah. In terms of bang for your buck, it's... But they got into this weird problem where, you know, people forever would say, and this

is what the British guys do that I think people in America don't do as much. The British guys in Ricky Gervais and all that stuff, they always say, well, it's just jokes. My audience knows I'm kidding. I actually don't mean that, right? They say that on everything, which is not really always true. Sometimes they're saying things they think are true, but they're,

you know what I mean? But the real, if you actually care about like speech or whatever, the truth is like, it shouldn't matter if like, it shouldn't be, well, you can say whatever you want as long as it's a joke.

Yes. It's almost in a way I get it. Cause you're kind of like, well, no one's allowed to say anything except for comedians sort of can. And we were sort of like willing to take that deal for a long time who made that rule who made the rule that you couldn't say it in something else that's also a cultural commentary yeah that's interesting yeah so comedians were all kind of like well we're just kidding and

everyone's like okay they can say it and then it's you know then people started being like well uh comedians can't say it anything anyway And then comedians are still being like, well, we're just joking. But the real answer is like, you should be able to fucking discuss things regardless. Yeah. Whether or not, as soon as, if you have a punchline, all of a sudden that topic's allowed to be discussed. But if it was a speech with no jokes, this is completely off limits. And I will say in something kind of a knock-on effect of the jimmy car thing is i you know the gypsy people have forever been you know we've been ignored blah blah and we did and you know maybe this does kind

of like people see this stuff they go oh i didn't know this highlight the plot i didn't know that half a million gypsies were killed until jimmy that's what i'm saying and honestly like joseph's argument like the like the romas or whatever they kind of are constantly saying you know we're the most for they're kind of like in canada the equivalent of like the like the Romas or whatever they kind of are constantly saying you know we're the most they're kind of like in Canada the equivalent of like the indigenous people

where they're like nobody gives a shit about us forgotten about us we're treated like shit and you know at least this brings some awareness there was an argument

for a while of whether you could say jip or not right that was that was popping up for a while where you go

I was probably 16 years old before I knew that that was actual like people related to gypsy gypsy I I was probably 16 years old before I knew that that was actual people. Related to gypsies. Gypsy, I had no idea. Yeah, you never really met one.

I wouldn't have done that either. Well, there's none in Canada. They're mostly European. They're frozen to death if there are any caravan in Canada. Exactly. Well, the main thing I wanted to say was like, so we've actually talked a bunch on this podcast about dudes not doing it going to college and all that stuff and because it sounds like that was a big topic that you've kind of gotten to the bottom

of yeah very much so is it is the answer that college is for girls now first of all well you're gonna have two women for every one man in a four-year u.s college by 2030 yeah so that's the stats it would have been um reverse I'm going back to school. There's a thing called the sex ratio hypothesis, which is whichever the scarcer sex is gets to determine the dating environment, right? Oh, for sure. So if there are fewer men, then you

have more hookups, you have less lead time between meeting somebody and having sex, you have more sex outside of relationships, blah, blah, blah. And then the reverse happens. if there's more women in some place if you would go to some cookery college or something like that you would have far more smash oh the opposite yeah yeah you would be you would be made to wait a lot longer women would have more satisfaction with relationships there would be longer time between that's high rate guys so there's more smashing when there's more guys well sorry there's less time between So there's more smashing when there's more guys?

Well, sorry, there's less time between first date and having sex when there's fewer guys because the guys get to determine. That's just supply and demand. But why would the guys be determining we should wait more dates? No, they won't. But when it flips and the girls are the ones that are in scarcity, the men know that if they don't play the game that the girls want, there's a hundred guys stood behind them. So yeah's interesting with the with the thing to do with college so so right now if you go to college and you're a dude it's not as so easy yeah you're gonna be

it's not it was even like that but we went to the same college all you yeah the main thing that you need to know in college is don't pass out with your shoes off And don't have sex when she's too gone. Do you know who that is? No. So Asher Roth was this big college singer. There was a genre of college rap, and they go, and I love college. That party last night.

But I digress. Everything that would have been on American Pie, like the American Pie soundtrack. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So roll it forward. There's some interesting stuff that's going to happen because fundamentally women want to get with a guy when they're a little bit older

that is more educated than them, with more resources than them, and more status than them. But over the last 30 to 40 years, women have gradually become better employed, better educated, and more status. So on average, women between the age of 21 and 29 earn 1,111 pounds more than a man.

You're going to have two women for every one man at a four-year U.S. college. So right now, on average, girls make more money than guys? 21 to 29, yeah, yeah. Anyone can go and find this online. Yeah, because we're always sort of talking about that, that they always will be like, oh, girls make more money. And you go, yeah, it depends on which age you're talking about.

Very much so. So the cohort makes a huge difference. But think about the time when those girls are trying to find a man they're attracted to so they are out earning men in the period where they're making the decision about which man they want to settle down with so then this is fucking tough for women as well who's going to say to women you know those rights that you didn't have for a while and you kind of recently got maybe that's making it harder for you to find a man that you're fundamentally attracted to no one wants to say that he's running on that dialing it back but it's also difficult to raise men up like how do you get

men to want to go back to college when they've been told for a long time there's much better alternatives to this to go and start your own business or begin an apprenticeship trade stuff like that's the thing if you're a dude should you go to college like it's a pretty objectively you know not that great a deal for your average person it depends what you're doing yeah well yeah but i'm saying for the judge the apps for the total aimless like general person who's just going to kill four years for sure probably it depends on what you want because i went to uni for five years and what everything that i value was the experiences being around friends living in halls of residence like that was fucking i couldn't do that any other way and regardless true though like for me when i grew up you know so i would i would say that there was

college was one thing then i played in a band and that was a whole community and scene and then i was in comedy and that was the whole thing and to be honest those experiences were very similar to the college experience in terms of you know who was around and the vibe of it do you think that other people can find a community of people as easily as you did? So that's the, yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking about. It goes, and that goes back to when people are like, oh, but you get this experience. Yes, if you're a type of person that wouldn't normally get that,

you're right, there's some people that instead of going to college, their alternative might be playing video games in their parents' basement. Normal job, blah, blah. They're not going to be touring on the road with a band, meeting other bands every night and, know fucking groupies yeah i had one friend like jordan i had one friend who uh went he didn't go to college but he went and just lived at the same time with all of our friends who went that's the real life so he was he was a mechanic he just moved to ottawa and he was a mechanic at the time and he was just working his regular job

but he was living in a student house with all of our friends from high school who are now in college so he kind of rich as fuck yeah he was kind of getting the best of both worlds yeah that's a good idea yeah well what do you think the do so yeah that's kind of the situation where you go guys aren't going to college and then girls like dudes that are you know is the, is the actual thing that happens in, on averages that girls start, uh, being down with having a guy that makes less money than them. Cause that's sort of like a biological, right? Unfortunately, no. So, uh, guys that are in relationships with girls where the man isn't the primary breadwinner, 50% more likely to need to use a rectal dysfunction medication. Relationships are pretty much twice as likely to need to use erectile dysfunction medication.

Relationships are pretty much twice as likely to end in divorce if the woman earns more than the man. We just had an article that said they're more likely to have to fake orgasms. That one happened as well, yeah. Because, and that was to do with, I was not too sure. It was all a study on Danny's chick.

Oh, yeah. It was, the claim there was to do with emasculating the man and like, what was it? Fragile masculinity. I'm not really too sure that that's the case because you're also having a selection effect here. It's like, who's getting into this relationship?

It's not about the dynamic within it. But it's really, really hard for women to not want to be attracted to the guy that has good prospects. And think about the memes that you see online, like don't settle for less, clap back, be a boss bitch, you deserve more. Like all of this appears. And you're like, there's 10 of those. Clap back. Be a boss bitch. You deserve more. All of this appears.

And you're like, there's 10 of those guys. Yes. Yeah, precisely. So it's. And they have their act and they're choosing from 12,000 of you. Precisely. Yes. I mean, I will say, though, I guess for women, because they have the biological element of, you know, whatever the clock's ticking.

They can kind of be. Don't be gross. They can be that selective for a time. And then eventually you see it a lot. They'll be be like you know what i'm gonna keep my options open i'm gonna really aim high and then you see it all the time where they're like all right it's time to stop aiming high and yeah chuck's fine yeah let's just yeah let's just uh settle down here well yeah that's that's hitting the wall and that's scary because the problem is imagine this right you're a girl who is told by culture that if you get a good job and become

employed, you can have it all. And then you can settle down and get a family later on. And maybe that's true, but you go through all of your twenties, getting a PhD or a master's or something, and you start a company and you're earning loads of money. And then you find out at 29 years old, when you think, okay, I've done a good bit of stuff. Maybe it's time to find a partner and settle down that all of the guys that you want to date you're getting out competed by some 21 year old barista that's hot as fuck yeah but eight years younger than you and you go oh one of the primary things i brought to the table was youth not my credentials so it's got it's it's tough for both sides man like there's this huge asymmetry um in terms of how much better it is for guys you get a 90 increase in right swipes on tinder if you have a master's versus

a bachelor's degree so like if you consider guys if you're listening lie about having a master's there you go no one's checking yeah no one's checking yeah but so the point is that it's it's kind of it's one of those things you're going to get these asymmetries right and whatever it is the bottom 20 of men sorry the bottom 80 of men compete for the bottom 20 of of men, sorry, the bottom 80% of men compete for the bottom 20% of women on Tinder. The top 80% of women compete for the top 20%. Is that the, that's the dating imbalance thing that you've been talking about?

Yes, yes, yes. That's the Pareto distribution. Yeah, but it happens to be shown out perfectly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, the 80-20 rule is like, it applies to everything. Yeah, everywhere. But you have these turbo chats,

you know, if you, top 20% of guys have access to pretty much the entire dating market. They can choose whatever they want. They're not going to settle down. down they're not settling down at all and the final part of this puzzle which is really weird um girls will sleep with guys that are outside of their normal dating window and think that that skews their future preferences for what they want so they're going to have sex with a guy that was never going to wife them up or make them give them a relationship but they go higher not lower yeah So they're going to have sex with a guy that was never going to wife them up or make them, give them a relationship.

But they go higher, not lower. Yeah, so they're going to presume, oh, well, I'm no longer going to settle for this type of guy because I fucked this type of guy. Yeah. It's never going to come back down.

It's like anchoring. Precisely, yeah. It really is, because, you know, every dude will be, you know, like some fucking whoever. Yeah. You'll smash kind of anything yeah and she

might be like oh this is something that's my new what whatever waterline for what i'm supposed to go with and you realize whether that person was never ever going to put in get into a relationship with you yeah yeah but the reverse doesn't happen with guys you know it's very rare that some super hot chick just finds you at the right time and you could be that drunken mistake yeah and then you're like i'm never going below that yeah you're showing up to the boys like this is me now bros get used to it live in the high life yeah well because there is there's almost two for the i guess for girls that's their own ball of problems that you know have fun with that uh for dudes it kind of is there's the on average what to do but then there is this specific individual thing because i'm always like you could no matter what as a dude you could beat the you

the trick to being a dude is like hey how do i get closer to that 20 percent yeah a little bit right yeah or find a girl settle down and take her away from the muck yeah well i mean get out of the muck that's that's the fucking That's the fucking thing. It's not... Find your new burrito distribution somewhere where you are the 20%. You may not be in the top 20%. You're just saying go to a small pond. Well, just a different pond.

You may not be the top 20% guy that's banging all the chicks at... You know, if you're on Wall Street. In New York City, but if you go to Yonkers... But if you move to somewhere where... You know, just having is you know you know a little bit right so i think i always said ryan's ted talk go wherever they don't have teeth no but even when you're talking about the the being uh the girls like guys with more money and all that stuff, right? They do, but at the same time,

there's dudes that have hacked that by making themselves the more important entity. Like, for example, let's say that you, the girl made more money, but you all went to like a church and the guy was like a big shot at the church. His status is worth more than the money. So you can-

I mean, comedy is literally that. Comedy is 1,000% that. We know so many guys who are punching that yeah i mean i probably am that too but like punching well above their weight you know and then it's and they're not even successful they're just was a lot of different ways but you were for that age group and for that thing for example when i was 19 being in this popular band like that is pretty hot if you're 30 with that same amount of success and money like it's a different thing so date younger is the first one right well it's easy to impress yeah that seemed that seemed yeah although if well if you find yourself in the wrong too young wrong 80 or 20 then it's almost like you have to go the other way you kind of have to start what do you like like if you're a guy who can't you know you find yourself in the uh 80 of men the bottom 80

or whatever then you may go older and that'll kind of oh yeah well i suppose you could shoot that way but here's the thing right you don't need to actually be an eight out of ten to get yourself into the top 20 because most men are doing absolutely fuck all to try and improve themselves most men don't have a training plan most men aren't balanced emotionally most men aren't working on their communication skills and trying to be funny and interesting and have a good social circle like just basic shit yeah like really really basic shit if you go to the gym and do a structured program three days a week you're probably in the top five percent of all men on the planet in terms of health and fitness if not even higher than that.

Right. How does that not blow your mind? Yeah. Right? Top 5% by spending three hours a week doing a thing. Yeah. Like that, and okay, so it's not about,

oh, well, eight out of 10 is some unreachable goal. It's like, think about how shit the bottom 80% is, especially sort of the bottom 50. Bottom 50% of men are probably people who are paying absolutely zero attention to what it is that they're doing with themselves they're not bothered about the way they look they're not bothered about what they're doing with their job they're not bothered about their health and fitness or their communication skills or having a good social circle or meeting women or going and going to places where girls are going to be or getting

into experiences where they're actually good communicators none of that yeah and getting that is a big one that you just mentioned like being part of a circle that that's that circle has some status like yeah just being around people that are like that obviously that's the oldest thing to have people that are higher and people that are below or whatever well you want to actually go on a night out here's an interesting one so if you're a guy and you have a friend who looks a little bit like you but uglier that's a real hack have that guy around go out with him all the time go out with him on the pole because the people are going to like if you're the hotter brother so they're going to anchor off the uglier guy and go oh my god so here's another thing danny you

and john benica go clubbing always have the before be the after but have a friend who's the before always but yeah you can go on and especially if you're a shorter guy but guys get really hung up about the hikes it's not really much that you can do about it if you if you're a shorter guy find a shorter guy yeah out with that guy or have friends who are children get the fake ideas rip out to the bar you go this guy's really 30 yeah yeah he's like yeah i'm 30 yeah I mean, especially in the new days, I've seen tons of dudes that are pretty average dudes like tearing through.

Fucking crushing it. Yeah, man. I mean, comedians and guys that are funny. I did this dating show thing in the UK. But I don't think it's so much. You are right. It's the guys that are funny. But there's plenty of people that aren't comedians

that are just as personable and all that stuff. Dude, that's exactly what I'm thinking about in comedy i think it's more about that scene does matter so to anyone that's around your stat it's the status more than the actual think about think about any weird hobby that anybody's got right badminton you know the best badminton male badminton player all of the female badminton players are going to be like oh my god it's yeah i know what cares about what badminton players do the same thing goes for comedy but you're right maybe the biggest like public intellectual in the world you're on tour smashing through groupies for example maybe you're canadian maybe you know maybe you're not um yeah

it's it's a weird one man but i think that communication i did this uh tv show uh love island thing right in the UK. Oh, yeah. I remember when we first talked that you did that. Yeah, so this was like six years ago or something. One of the guys that was on there, there was everybody on there was in good condition. How'd you do?

It was all right. I was on there for a month. It was all right. The girls were, they got the casting better in future series. I'll be diplomatic about it. Yours was all the 80s? It was just, it was a dress rehearsal.

You were the guy in the show being like, next. Well, no, I guess it went the other way around because I've been talking about this bit on stage, but on Love Island, they basically, like I was saying, it's like a show that girls watch. Yeah, right? Like a reality show for girls, right? But basically they started doing body positive things

where every every season they'd put like one not hot chick in the show gets competed out immediately but that's the thing it's like who's this for it basically so and not even that bad for a normal person but on the show it's like supermodel supermodel supermodel walmart customers supermodel right and then the dudes have to be like yeah all pretty hot had a bit better connection with the five supermodels well they had a problem with this in one of the episodes one of the series because they want to have representation they want to have racial representation they want to have able-bodied representation they want to have different uh sexual um identity representation

you're like fucking how many people do you need to get on it's going to be one of each you need at least two of each so that you can and they had a problem because all of the black people kept on dating all of the black people. And it just seemed weird. If you look, on average, people are attracted to their own ethnicity more. Or even there's like a cultural thing where, you know what I mean?

The people that you grew up with, they're kind of no more. You sort of know how to pick up the girls better too, right? Because you know what they're into. It's just more comfortable. You don't have to explain all this stuff about your culture to someone who has no idea about it. You know the buttons to push.

Okay, if you're some dude that has a few moves that works with girls or whatever, you have a way you pick up girls and you meet someone that's from a different, like completely different world that you're from, your moves don't work anymore. She's like, what? Yeah.

Fuck do you say? But there's a guy on the show who wasn't one of the best looking lads at all, but he was by far the funniest, like the most extroverted guy in there. And he- That works on TV for sure. Crushed it.

Got this playboy, ex-playboy model that just won the show. Ended up winning the show because he was just a funny guy that was personable. Did you bang any of the girls from the show? No.

No, man. It wasn't like that? It kind of was. One of the lads wanked no man there was it was it wasn't like that uh it kind of was one of the lads wanked on tv which was strange it's like dude you're on a dating show what's going on yeah but no it was it was fun it was fun to do but the first season was like a dress rehearsal basically and then the next season they really got it right they're using shit like snapchat on the first season to promote it was very strange oh yeah weird one oh weird that is interesting though but yeah then they would have these girls that weren't that hot and then the the a couple like and to promote it. It was very strange. Yeah, weird one. Oh, weird. That is interesting though.

But yeah, then they would have these girls that weren't that hot and then a bunch of them kill themselves because people on the internet are, you know, you're not hot. Fucking assholes. The vibe of the, yeah, definitely.

But like also I placed like a lot of the blame on the Hollywood machine part of it where they kind of now go to you and they were like, what? You don't think this girl's hot you and they were like what you don't think this girl's hot and everyone's like you know that that's the reason she's here you put them on and you're like yeah inclusive and you go yeah inclusive of not hot girls that's the whole

thing you did it's like i think it's like putting a 12 year old in the nba and then you know losing every game and all the fans are like fuck this kid and then you tell the fans they're the ass how could you how could you say this to this child yeah yeah i mean it's like the producer every game and all the fans are like fuck this kid and then you tell the fans they're the assholes how could you say this to this child yeah yeah i mean it's like the producers are trying to not get in trouble by doing that essentially yeah and then but it's you end up getting competed out because on the show it's desire right you can't really fake it very much yeah so there okay so there's the the one we had like a question and i thought i'd lead it into the my next part of it which you sort of touched on.

But this guy said, hey, I've got a serious advice question. So I'm 22, been dating this girl for four years. She's smart, logical, pretty sick, not naggy, blah, blah. He goes, only downside is I can tell she comes from a pretty rich family. So she likes expensive things. That's not his point. But any advice on dudes that are dating chicks that want the fancy things? Become rich.

You can't switch that, you think. No, it's hard. I think materialism is like a set point. I mean, if you grow up accustomed a certain way and you're just expected to just totally change your life, it's hard, yeah. Think about it this way, that a lot of the patterns that we look for in our partners

are what we were shown by our opposite sex parent. So the way that our parents show each other love, if they were arguing a lot, that's what we presume. Because what we've seen is this was a successful family because it made me. My dad used to give her hockey pucks. I don't know what that is. It's a hockey family, I'm saying.

Oh, okay. I thought that was like punch her in the eye and give her a black eye or something. A cricket bat. Cricket bat. So yeah. A girl's soccer ball. What you grow up with is what you then look for in later life a lot of the time, I think.

Yeah, I think that's probably true. But then there is people where you go, okay, it's easy to say like, don't get into the thing. But if you're dating someone and they're sort of like that and you're in there and you're in it, you go, there's got to, you still have to figure out how to negate those bad things especially if it's one part of it there's only two things that you can change that i'm going to either try and change what her preferences are i'm going to change my ability to provide that to her but again would you not say we could go back to the original thing where you go the preferences you go let's move this chick out to a poor area and all of a sudden me taking her to the movies with my car yeah yeah but the question is how do you get her out to said area

hey we're going for a drive and the car breaks down you know we just live here it's nice nice town yeah there isn't a perfect answer i feel the only real perfect answer is a sort of you you slowly have to change their taste which i always say like i actually i'm not i don't care about the money as much i actually don't like doing fancy things or whatever and men can influence women like any dudes dated a girl and then you know within four months like all her favorite bands happen to be the ones you like they've started going to the gym with you or they've started doing whatever it is that you're into right so you love football They've never loved football.

Imagine you were like a hippie guy, right? And your whole thing was on this kind of like tour with Grateful Dead. Vegan hippie guy. Materialism is bad or whatever, right? And you could kind of get her on board with some shit like that. Do you know what it is?

You're probably right. But the only way that you're going to be able to do that is if you're really, really high status and you're able to convince her of it. Like you're going to have to work pretty hard. I mean, if you're a materialism is bad guy, I can't imagine you're going to be doing great with a girl who's into

material stuff. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I've dated probably mostly girls that are like that. And I usually get them off their bullshit pretty quick. But you're not like, that's not your identity is against materialism.

You're just, it is what I'm talking about. Yeah. You're just, you haven't seen me'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just- You haven't seen me in those arguments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't still like stuff, man.

Ryan looks at the menu at a restaurant. He goes, you know what the problem with capitalism is? I actually do, though. I get out there. The amount of time that I've had- Okay, here's a perfect example. Like, you know, people like Jerry Seinfeld was big into the idea of minimalism or whatever right yeah and i am somewhat i liked the idea of kind of having just an apartment with like no stuff like i really do kind of like that and i feel like it was better

for my creativity or whatever but i don't give that much of a shit enough to really become the guy that that i do enough stuff to actually get rid of all the clutter constantly or whatever. But when I have a girl that's dating, I lean pretty hard into this because I'm sort of, I'm not lying that I love the having no stuff around thing, but I go harder on it when there's another benefit that is going to get her off my case. What's the other benefit? Well, then I get her on board with this minimalism business for us. Oh, so you set her expectations very low.

with this minimalism business for us. Oh, so you set her expectations very low. But I also get her, I'm selling to her the idea that, that's okay if you don't need your life to go good, but for me, it's important to have a clear headspace and a clear brain. Every time they're like, let's watch Netflix,

and she's like, Marie Kondo again, Ryan? I don't... You love this chick, huh? He goes, I know, she just throws everything out. I love it. She doesn't buy anything

yeah you watch hoarders and you go can you believe someone would have three purses and you kind of look two pairs of shoes it's ridiculous

but yeah yeah but that's not but whatever that's not the big part of it but the big part I wanted to ask you about he goes I know your shtick

is that dudes should have fun and live life before settling down so I don't know if that's my shtick. I think that's an overreaction. And every now and then there's a chick at a bar who starts to make moves. And I wish I could switch things up here and there.

But he has this chick who's sick and he's in his 20s or whatever. And he's like, basically he's just stupid to throw away something that seems perfect for the short you know for the long to wreck away his long-term thing for something that seems fun in the short term etc etc so what's your take just first of all like in general on you know uh whether it's better to be in single or relationship at what age and what your think the move is for a dude in retro some 33 right in retrospect i think that being single for most of your the move is for a dude. In retrospect, some 33, right? In retrospect, I think that being single for most of your twenties is probably a pretty good idea for most guys because it's going to allow you to have more experiences.

And this isn't just that with girls, like it's cool to do that, but the amount of times that you need to compromise something that you want to do because your girlfriend won't let you just at the drop of a hat, go away to a lad's weekend in Vegas or whatever it might be, right? Or move for a job or something. Or do anything. Just do whatever it is that you want to do.

So that's the first thing. The second thing is that you're probably going to be more competitive as a guy to find a girl when you get toward the end of your 20s, early 30s. There's a concept called sexual market value, and it's a graph which you might be able to throw over the top. Well, he says this girl's pretty hot, like out of his league a little bit almost, so he did okay on that one. But he's early 20s.

It doesn't have to be just about him, but he's 22. So to finish off the overall one, that toward the end of your 20s, I reckon between sort of 28 and 35-ish, is when as a guy you're going to be able to capture like the highest value girl that you can. That's the age? I think so, yeah.

I think that you're good because you can still get whatever, from probably 22, 23 to whatever, all of the 20s at that time. But you're going to have more status. You're going to have more money. You're going to have... Because remember, we were talking about

how do you become a guy that's a higher earner if you're not earning so much? Well, if you wait until later in life, one of the biggest predictors for wealth is age so if you just wait until you're a little bit older then you're competing with a 22 year old but you've had six more years in the job market you can outspend them or you look i think that's pretty true for most people i know too that they were sort of around 29 30 and then also you're a little less like plagued by your youthful craziness oh yeah, yeah. Here's the literal hormones and all that shit. Well, yeah.

And then for this guy particularly, I don't know, man. People need to be careful about going, I'm going to drop this relationship so I can just go and spray it around in the rest of the world. Unless he's got a real, real burning desire to go and do something and you've got a girl who's out of your league, you think am i going to beat this yeah i don't know how much it depends on how much you value i value novelty a lot i love adventures and new shit so for me dropping something that's a certainty for a lot of things that are potentials that makes a lot of sense but if you're a more conservative guy maybe or you you actually like the idea of just settling down and everything being chill then go for that yeah what are your goals right yeah precisely i will say too someone who's 22 because we we get these questions sometimes and i find it's now more than ever the odds of a 22 someone who's currently 22

be forever with this person like you meet me and you're like the odds of this just regardless of how you feel about anything are low yeah just the amount of people i've known who are like my any friends i have like whether who who they were with when they were 22 are they still with regardless of how you feel about anything, are low. Just the amount of people I've known who are like, any friends I have, who they were with when they were 22, are they still with them? Well, we're godless city boys, though, too. No, I'm talking about my friends from high school and stuff. I know two people who are with the same person they were with when they were 22.

It ends up being a cost-benefit analysis, right? Like, what have you got now? What would you get if you got rid of this now? What's the opportunity cost of being in this relationship? And if the opportunity cost is, I'm a semi-professional hockey player who wants to go and make this really make a go of it but my girlfriend won't move with me so i need to make a choice between my fucking passion in life and my relationship because well dude this is obvious 22 your relationship's probably not going to last but if the alternative isn't something that really compels you go well what else would you recommend getting a couple prostes and i don't even i'm not even saying that i'm honestly not

sex workers right yeah it's workers you just subscribe to some only fans like no but do you actually recommend like if dudes are feeling like that like yo just fucking what i mean do you think that the girlfriend's gonna be okay with that i don't know he doesn't want to answer this i don't think he's trying saying tell the girlfriend he goes hey i got with that? He doesn't want to answer this one. I don't think he's trying to say, tell the girlfriend. He goes, hey, I got a couple of prostitutes. I have at least another two years with you. Sort of meeting in the middle is what my point is.

Oh, okay. And you think that the prostitutes are somehow less bad than just going on a night out. That is less bad. Is it? Yeah, 100%. Talk me through that. I think any girl that I've ever dated was like,

oh, you know, you're like been banging some like real girl versus like you and the fucking boys went to like a prostitute. Like, no way that's as bad. I don't think I could sell that as. I don't think I could ever be like, honey, she was just a whore. I paid her. Yeah, I paid her for money. It was a transaction. It's like going to something at Walmart.

Well, you could, you could sell that. You like fucking touch titties at a strip club. You probably couldn't say that you were doing that at a bar. That's, uh, you're always on your way with touching titties. Probably.

No, maybe the bouncer wouldn't like it. It didn't stop him. Well, okay. So my point is more just, I remember when I was, when like,

and I guess you've, you know, you said you were like a club promoter and this reality TV star or whatever, right? So you were probably like out there. And then for some people that, like I remember being, me and Waldo and stuff were talking to some guys who were like 40 and they were just like married and stuff. And they're like, yeah, that like thing of trying to, you know, wanting to smash other girls or whatever, just like never went away.

And they're just like, yeah, yeah just like so there's always that i mean it's the oldest thing in the book saying there's always the grass is greener or whatever right yeah but yeah there's you know uh in dexter they have the dark passenger no i haven't seen it so dexter's this show and basically he's he's a serial killer that always kills people and it's kind of like his dark passenger like he needs to kill okay i don't because it's prostitutes yours uh what a prostitute's yours is prostitutes your dark passenger no no i'm not i've never been a prostitute guy okay no i've been a prostitute briefly when he first moved to new york it was kind of a midnight cowboy no i wasn't never that guy but the if you think about it like for girls the sort of biological thing deep down if you actually are super in touch with what am i on this planet for is to find you know find the

best one yes you know and maybe that changes over you know longer periods of time like you know maybe that guy's gone and then you were to do it again right but for guys it really is the biological thing is spread it as much as you can yeah so if the it's almost like sometimes i feel like you get away from that but it's like the more in touch with myself i am the more i feel like i'm uh get feeling that again you know what i mean well i mean you have that animal brain like that whole biological essentialism part of you that you know is that like is just to yeah reproduce and there's an argument your purpose and there's never really been like i've never really got a good answer for that and no one ever does they just sort of it's just the answer is like yeah but you can't and

whatever you know there's a tension right there is a tension here between something that's going to be good for you and something that you want like you might want to eat ice cream every day but it's not going to be good for you in the long run and morally there's an equivalent here as well that you might want to have sex with every single girl that you see and never ever settle down and that might be gratifying in one type of way but also there are other things that you know that would be better for you in the long run again going to the gym i choose to go to the gym as opposed to stay on the couch i want to stay on the couch yeah but i know that long term i'll get it's a difference between happiness and meaning right so you can be happy with something that's fleeting and more like hedonistic but you can also have fine meaning

in something and there's a tension between these two and that is the thing okay what do I want do I want to have a relationship long term and again this is why it's easier I think to be single throughout your 20s and maybe into your 30s as well because you can kind of at least tick off some of those boxes yeah exactly, exactly. I got this buddy who was in pickup artistry. What kind of hat did he wear? Those guys are so funny. It's fucking hilarious.

There was a guy, I have another podcast that I started. Does he do magic? There's a guy who called in last night and he said his big thing for instead of the hat

for his picking up chicks. He's a pickup artist? No, he's not a pickup artist but he was telling me how he met his, he called into the show and he was telling me how he met his girlfriend and that into the show and he was telling me how he met his girlfriend and that, you know those,

I don't know who makes them, but the glass boot that like you drink beer out of? Yeah, yeah, yeah. From Beer Fest. From Beer Fest, exactly, from Beer Fest. So he said his thing was he would bring one to the bar with him and then he would be drinking out of this boot all night

and he's just like, everybody keeps coming up to me all night. What's up with the boot then what's up with the boot and he's like you're right it's it's a peacocking it's his peacocking thing it's his weird thing and everybody's like what's up with the boot where'd you get this boot and he's it was kind of instead of the hat but it was way better because people see the hat they go oh this guy's fucking i always do donald i donald duck it at the bar no pants just a shirt on and then my girl's like what are you doing you go well hello so my friends in a bit big into pick apart this dream I'm like dude you're fucking committed to this like you're really really spending a lot of time corny ass thing to fucking be committed to well and I'm like he says yeah yeah my future wife really better

thank me for going through this I'm like okay you're gonna have to explain to me how fucking all of these women is going to be to the benefit of your future wife. So as well, when I'm 45 and walking down the street with my two dogs and two and a half kids and my wife, I don't want to see a Brazilian chick and think, I wonder what it's like to fuck a Brazilian chick. I want to have ticked off every single one of my sexual quirks.

And I do think that there's something to be said with that. Like a midlife crisis is basically unrequited life experiences. Yeah yeah but could you not say that okay so I guess it depends on how you consider it because if you go uh if you looked at that like for example a drug or something you aren't actually better off to fucking tried heroin necessarily you know what I mean so some things you know smoking or whatever it's not like oh good thing I went through my thing and smoked so if you were like oh if you're getting into this like pickup artist thing where a big part of what you're fueled by is like the the main thing that is your like attention yeah that's the main thing that like fuels you like that does change your like body chemistry and i don't think it that i

don't you know it's not necessarily better i think I've met a lot of people that you go even when they got obsessed with girls or girls that get obsessed with boys, you go, that person was better when they were 17 before they were in this world, before they were that. Well, that guy's also presupposing that that will be his life and that this current way he's living. He's going to just continue forever. Yeah, he's banking that one day he's going to say, oh, that's the last box. I got it all out of my system.

Let me go find my wife and do it. Do you think that, well, would you not say that there's a case for someone that wants to go traveling, right? That wants to go and see a bunch of countries, settles down young with a family, and then later in life feels regret about the fact that he never got to go and see what Thailand's like or what

Bali's like or any of that stuff. Thailand, for sure, he regrets. Those ping pong shows. And I think that there's an equivalent here as well. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, if you have such a strict plan where you say, yeah, this is I'm going to hit here and then start on the… Threesomes and foursomes and Japanese fart porn.

Yeah, it doesn't. Now I'm going to be like in wife mode, family mode. I think it is hard for most people like it's quite autistic which probably yeah yeah you have to be a little yeah it's hard for a lot of people to manage the toxic version but i think you are right with even with meeting a family or whatever just having i honestly felt like i replaced a lot of my and not just girls just destruction period like having to fucking you know going to bars getting in fights you know getting kicked out of places just always trouble trouble trouble you

know i mean all that stuff and he was when we were at the university he was banned from every bar why what he's saying right now dude i was i'm not kidding i was banned there was i think 20 bars and i was two of them there was three bars that were owned by one person three bars but yeah so maybe like nine establishments total I was banned from every single bar and fuck and then I was banned

I was allowed at the campus bar for a while and then I got kicked out of there rest apps just a lot of different things I remember the one they let me back in to Trappers

and this was after a guy I knew because I was you know whatever from the band and stuff a guy knew the guy and he said he would let me back in and then the night that I got back in,

we got in a big fight and went through their glass window, like the big front window. And the guy just came out like, see, and he goes, really? Like, are you fucking, are you serious? Like it was fucking, but to some degree, I feel like I've funneled so much of that stuff into comedy or whatever. And you are, I mean, all of it at the end of the day is chasing,

uh, whatever you call it. What's not, it's not adrenaline chasing, uh, you know, dragon, I guess,

but what's the dragon? Like the, what's the chemicals when you feel something like dolphins, endorphins or something. Yeah. Like chasing those or whatever. But I think you can get that same endorphins and the same, if you have the need to like,

just, I don't know, fucking for chaos or some sort of version, like you can find a positive version of that. Merchant of chaos. Ryan Long, merchant of chaos. Well,

you're making, yeah, it's, it's corny when you say that, but it does, it is. I do have that where it's, that goes back to the liberal conservative personality that,

um, the guy that you're on tour with has been banging on the groupies. No, but do you know the thing where certain people are better at, like the liberal personality, you want to build stuff up and the other people are better at maintaining?

You know, a lot of ways, I've always felt like that with everything. It's very fun to build and then once something's going, you're kind of like, all right. What's new? What's next? Yeah. Well, that's like that with everything it's like very fun to like build and then once something's going you're kind of like all right like what's new what's next yeah yeah well that's like that pioneer mindset that all guys have i think yeah guys want to know what's new and that's precisely the the how do you say the magic of going on a night out and getting with a chick it's not necessarily about who she is it's about the conquest it's about feeling like oh this was

new and different and i don't know if it's challenging yes i don't know if it's about feeling like oh this was new and different and i don't know if it's yes i don't know if it's gonna happen and maybe a win right like i feel like it's like once you if you become a gym guy you know what i mean where that like you know that thing where it's like okay if i didn't do anything else i went to the gym today like and you and you that does keep you on track yeah i feel like some guys replace everything with girls where it becomes okay fucking all this stuff's falling apart but i did like take down a girl tonight last night yeah so that part is kind of in order everyone's got their comfort blanket yeah that's a comfort it becomes a comfort blanket and there's more there's better ones than probably like the toxic ones i guess right yeah yeah like i mean it's

probably sex is better than drugs but yeah there's i mean there's some people who are pathologically like you know just like workers and stuff you know yeah you see this with people right the people that used to have one type of addiction then they'll become an ultra runner or whatever and you go this is still an addiction you just managed to repurpose the addictive part of you into something that society thinks and probably everybody thinks is less bad than taking drugs yeah yeah 100 yeah there and there is probably there's i feel like i'm always like uh get more obsessed with the structural components because that's why those are the ones that are easier to fix so it's like that idea of if you are in a relationship and you know everyone else

is doing this thing and you're like am i missing out on that you know that could easily be solved by you know having a social circle that's a little older than you maybe for example right maybe you hang out with like your work friends instead of you know your college party friends who are on that circuit because being around it's kind of like when i stopped being in a band like i wanted to be the guy that was like okay i'm gonna that's in the past i move forward i didn't want to go to shows and be around that thing anymore do you find that with you know because you kind of had a pretty big like life change of what you do i would say yeah yeah so i was a club promoter for a long time and dude it's just it's good that's a murky world it's fucking dark man but it's fun especially in the uk because

it's so easy each city is only about a million people between one and two million people so it's pretty easy to like conquer a city and be the best known guy that's there are you the guy uh yeah there was maybe there's usually only about sort of three uh companies per city and i was like the owner of one of the big three which is which is pretty cool it's a good situation to be in while you're at university you don't pay for anything you get to go on nights out all the girls girls know who you are so it's fun. It's a good way to spend your time but you get toward the end of your 20s

and you're like, fucking hell, is this really all that I've got to offer the world? It's like just cheap Jager bombs and hip hop music. Those 6 a.m. nights get tough too, right? They fucking ruin you, yeah. So it's horses for courses

but this is why I think that I always thought when I was younger that I should try and be more mature because I was looking up to guys that were older than me and I was like, oh, well, what they do now is what I should try and be more mature because I was looking up to guys that were older than me. And I was like, oh, well, what they do now is what I should do now. Well, no, what they did when they were your age wasn't what they're doing now. Exactly.

They grew up on an arc. Yeah, exactly. And that's what I think sometimes we can try and make ourselves too. I'm not trying to advocate like more immaturity, but we can try and think the admirable thing to do is like to be more mature and more chill and more chill and more relaxed and not do the adventures and not do the crazy shit like well no when you look back you're going to look back you can got the rest of your life to not do fun stuff yeah exactly you

only have a short window of time to be able to go out and actually do some interesting shit yeah yeah you don't want to look back and be like i'm glad i was so conservative when i was 18 with everything and that's why that's why you get a midlife crisis. That's where I'm pretty sure a midlife crisis comes from. I have friends, and I do think about it. I have some friends who probably married the second girl they ever slept with. And maybe they don't, but I always think, man, I find it hard to believe that. Do you think that you'd be able to predict

the ones that are maybe going to have a midlife breakdown? I have one who i honestly i they seem fine with it maybe that's just i'm projecting like my thoughts on them but i often think if i was in that boat that would be something that i would be thinking about constantly that's the brazilian chick walking down the street thing right that's he wants to tick off the boxes so there is an element of truth to it but yeah i think it's like not dedicating yourself to just pulling chicks and wearing a big hat or taking a boot on a night out with you but also taking off everything but also settling down with the girl if she's out of your league like this this is why it's interesting this is why it's interesting because it's difficult

and there isn't a one-size-fits-all answer so that's the i think that uh that it like kind of is the best way to look at it. It's not even that there's no bad answer. There's just no good answer. They all have their own sets of problems. Fuck, dude. Yeah, there's trade-offs for everything. I was out for dinner with Douglas Murray. He's a big fucking dope guy, man.

This guy's been on the scene since you've been here, man. I know. I've been here one week and I've made all the friends. Douglas Murray is in New York? Yeah. He lives here? Oh, he lives here? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, okay. Did they kick him out of the UK or something? He's a bit of a heretic there, huh? Because he's gay, right? He's a bit of a heretic everywhere. But he's like, and so he, because they really wanted him

to fit in this specific mold but he's a conservative gay guy and he just was saying all this shit that you're just like, really don't want to. He's a great guy. Yeah, yeah.

And he told me this story from Christopher Hitchens, one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, atheist guy, and he said, Douglas, you must choose your regrets. And it's like like that's a fucking cool way to look at it it's not it's it's not about minimizing regrets or escaping regrets at all it's how can you choose

the regret that you want to have because staying with the girl means you don't get to have sex with all the girls throughout your 20s having sex with the girls means that you get to let the one that you thought might be the one go which regret do you want yeah that's a good way to look at it absolutely yeah and i mean yeah like and those friends are have you know they do have families and i'm sure they're very happy and with that and you know again it's just the straight off you make where they have this but they don't have that and you know you can't have everything so yeah'm going to take a quick second here to tell you about Athletic Greens. Get it in you. I'm on it.

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who are into NoFap and trad wives and all that sort of stuff? Do you think that jerking off is bad and shit like that? I've never seen... So the only people that I've seen that have ever benefited from NoFap are pathological fappers.

If you're jacking in... I guess Muhammad Ali Ali that was his thing leading up to fights semen retention semen retention someone called in about that one too semen retention

what do you think about semen retention and then you just go like this they were asking he asked me what do you think about I'm trying to do semen retention I'm like

yeah I tried that once I got four days maybe I think my max is four days I don't know man so that for me, people talk about the fucking levitation and girls are going to be able to smell your pheromones

and all this stuff. If you go deep down- Oh, they say that girls like you more if they can smell it. Irresistible. It's coming out of your pores. Dude, if you want some cool shit to react to, just go deep into the NoFap archives on Reddit

and you will find wild stories. But that being said, if you're fapping it more than twice a day every day like three or four times a day plus time to find whatever video it is that you which takes longer than the fat and then the time it's like a part-time job precisely yeah it's like i it doesn't surprise me that people i'm so productive it's like yeah fucking no surprise you've just freed up two hours of your day. Who's shocked by this? Yeah, yeah. That's the other thing about the girl thing, too, is it can kill all your time, yeah.

Yeah, precisely. So, yeah, the nofap thing, I'm not really too sure. What was the other one? Like porn and OnlyFans, stuff like that. I mean, we talked about that a little bit. Yeah, I don't know. Porn, for some people, you can definitely get a behavioral addiction to porn. And I've had guys message me, and I'm sure there's guys that follow you guys too that you know have problems with porn yeah people comment that sometimes serious like problems with it i don't really know how you fix that but i

i almost feel like it's cold turkey you think i i mean if you can obviously saying to quit an addiction via cold turkey it's like the hardest when you're not the hardest way to do it exactly but it's one of those things where, I remember I had a friend who smoked and then he was, and his idea for quitting smoking was, I'm just going to smoke less. And I'm like, no, you're like, you're a smoker or you're not a smoker.

Like, I don't think you're just going to do this by like, not. You're a fapper or you're not a fapper? Well, I do think people are capable of being like, I'll only smoke when I drink and then following that. Yeah. I've seen that a lot of times. I've'll only smoke when I drink and then following that. Yeah. I've seen that a lot of times. I've seen a million people at the same time who quit smoking.

I guess I'm drinking more. Yeah, exactly. They're either drinking more or they are like, oh, you know, I'll just buy a pack of smokes when I'm out drinking. And then the next day they're like, it's noon and they're smoking. They go, I guess I smoke again. That's true. Because when you're hungover, your defenses are low. Defenses are low. And same because when you're hung over your uh your defenses defenses are insane

with when you're drinking it's why it's impossible to eat healthy after you like went hard the night before yes but it's easier if you wake up and then you run or something like that then you get some of your defenses back a little bit yeah running away from your dark thoughts and fucking dominoes yeah so i don't know man the porn thing is an interesting one but i'm glad like of all of the different vices that i you know everybody could struggle with i wouldn't really wish porn addiction on anybody because it's so easy it's so accessible yeah and it's the sort of thing that you're just going to slip back in whenever you're bored or whenever you're on your own yeah you know what it should it is like for some people it's like okay i fucking gotta crank one out because you know what i mean because it's like almost bugging you or whatever yes but it shouldn't be something that you like look forward to probably that's the

stage that that's the stage that girls are like you want to get i think a lot of people with covid too got really screwed over because of uh right remember there was you know you probably know mitchell and webb yes right so mitchell and webb they had they're like peep the guys from peep show but they had their mitchell and webb show and there was i remember seeing this one sketch and it was these two guys who worked at home and they're like the guys from Peep Show but they had their Mitchell and Webb show and there was I remember seeing this one sketch and it was these two guys who worked at home and they're like

so how do you like deal with all the all the wanking like and it's because and the whole conversation is how they're like they both work at home now and all they do is just

jack off pathologically fapping well they just they're like yeah I'm sitting in front of a computer by myself now all day didn't that guy

from the New York Times he just did it while he was on a Zoom call no Toobin Jeffrey Toobin on CNN. Danny said he used to jerk off at the library at university. I don't recall that.

Yeah, he did. I used to jerk off at the library at university. Yeah, you said you whacked off at Guelph University Library. You said Acura. It wasn't even something you were- Maybe I have in the past. Maybe you were bragging.

I wasn't like a thing I was doing. Maybe it wasn't true. You were doing it to brag. Someone like I jerked off there. He goes, I've fucking jerked. I mean, dude, I'm fucking Johnny Cash. I've been everywhere, man. What's the weirdest place you've ever jerked off, Ryan?

I would say the funniest is jerking off while you're with a girl and she's in the bathroom. Like cranking one out. Seeing if you can get it done in between. Yeah, yeah. And almost I remember being, you know, almost weaponizing sex a little bit where you know i mean she was kind of uh this and that but you knew you'd want to have sex so you're like you crank one out so you can hold your ground oh that's fucking smart oh yeah well why why wait until she gets there no no no you were already fighting or whatever you don't know what i mean you're getting something and then she goes to the

bathroom and you're like i'm losing my steamy and then because because you know you're gonna have a fury one i'm not gonna be able to hold strong because you'll be like won't have sex and then you're gonna have and so then you yeah you crank one out quickly while she goes the bathroom and then she sort of comes back and then you're like and another thing you've just got this iron steel will as she comes back she doesn't realize it's because you've just cranked one out steel will and the opposite of steel yeah well there was, I don't know if you saw, but the guy Charlie Kirk, the Super Bowl happened, and there was kind of a big thing on the internet with him being like,

oh, this is too sexual. And you see this with a lot of, you know. You know him, the Turning Point USA guy? Yes. Saying that this shouldn't even be on TV. It's kind of like the Elvis conversation. What bit was sexual? I guess 50 Cent.

Just the halftime show was, I don't know the exact quote, but essentially he said, he's like, this is like sexual depravity of the halftime show, which is funny because that was one of the least sexy. Old school conservative shit, yeah. Well, that's the thing.

But you're right, it wasn't very sexy. It was one of the least sexy things. No nipples, slip, no. No, there was some background dancers dancers but they're pretty cautious nowadays yeah the nfl has such an image problem yeah that they're very very cautious about that stuff so uh but yeah but he's he kind of was exposing the the old school conservative guys who got cool for a bit being like free speech they're better when they're pulling libs exactly pony lives free speech all this stuff and then he kind of regressed back to his old school like this

sexuality is disgusting everybody's like well everybody was like what are you talking about it feels like most there's so many people that are pretty good at diagnosing what's going on wrong somewhere but most people don't have an alternative that's good well that's what you get with all of everybody on the right right it's reactionary like there's the and this is the way it works the left puts forward an idea the right says that's rubbish we don't want to do it the left puts forward an idea the right says that's rubbish we don't want to do it that's the that's the dynamic but what you end up with is the right never puts any ideas forward well they would put

some ideas forward well that would be like christianity and stuff like that like religion would be the right side but that's the original that's the original idea like that was the original serve of the tennis match that was the first serve was religion and now they're just kind of yeah well they don't have yeah they don't have new ideas because they still think that their old ones are good yeah that being said man like one of the problems you have if you're a right leaning person that wants it to be good you you think, well, you need to fucking propose something. Think about, you know. Well, and that's what they're doing, I think.

A lot of them, you'll kind of, I think they, a lot of those people have that conversation where they're like, well, what should we propose? And they're saying, well, you know, no porn. Christian values. Yeah, they're essentially saying like, yeah, we already did this. Here's the list. Let's get back to the 1800s.

Here's the book. Yeah, we have the book, and this is a better way to live your life no dr dray yeah and you know what for some people they're it's true for some people they might be better off with a you know a super set of values but for some people they won't right so there's i thought that that halftime show was that's what i've seen i don't always tune that shit out like the halftime show comes on and i'll go do anything else and And then I saw, I had no idea what the lineup was. And then I saw it started with Dr. Dre

and I was like, okay, I'm gonna watch this. And I was, yeah, that was. Well, think about last year because last year was the weekend, right? And then he was walking through the maze and everyone memed the shit out of it. Yeah, and that was an okay one. But you know what?

There was really so much for the Super Bowl this year. I don't know how it became so concerted because it was with the halftime show and like the advertising but all this like early 2000s nostalgia like there was a commercial with Meadow a soprano and AJ in it with the soprano's theme song

and there was just all these people who were relevant 15 years ago like or not relevant because I'm not saying the musicians aren't but they kind of just all brought them back for like commercials and everything Culture can't do new shit man No It can't do new shit But also't, but they kind of just all brought them back for like commercials and everything. Culture can't do new shit, man.

No. It can't do new shit. But also this was the best kind of one was the- Did you see that someone put this fucking tweet out that went like super duper viral? And it said, I realized Eminem and Dr. Dre and Mary J. Blige and whatever came out on stage. And I thought, oh, awesome. Really glad they've done something for us young people,

not like those oldies that they used to do them for. And 10 minutes later, I realized these people are 20 years old in culture. That's my favorite thing is the rap guys getting old and becoming the kids these days guys. Back in my day, they rapped about guns and drugs. Not like these new kids rapping about fucking mumble rapping. Do you see the mayor of,

um, so there's this thing called funky town. No, the mayor of New York. Yeah. There's this thing called drill rap or, yeah. And no,

what is it? So it's basically, it seems like gangster rap. They just rap about, they have, they're all, it's like to cost kind of, no,

they all have guns and they're, they're like the videos are, you know, shot in the Bronx and stuff and whatever, New York. And they, they talk about killing people and doing all this stuff. And the mayor of New York straight up came out, like the videos are you know shot in the bronx and stuff and whatever new york and they they talk about killing people and doing all this stuff and the mayor of new york straight up came out the new mayor and he said he's like we need to ban this like he's trying to get on this rap he's

trying to ban rap music in new york city which is essentially where it invented yeah good luck and and you're like but what are you even proposing YouTube bans rap videos like that's essentially what he was saying because the scene is well because people are getting there is like gang related violence

that kind of they trace it back to this they're part of these whatever you're like yeah it's rap music yeah yeah there's no shortage of rappers

going to jail yeah I'm like I don't know what he's even thinking what do you think about Eminem with a beard I don't like the beard the beard's stupid I'm like, I don't know what he's even thinking. What do you think about Eminem with the beard? I don't like the beard. The beard's stupid. The beard's weird.

I don't feel like... Yeah, it looks weird, but maybe he's... Yeah, I don't know. I imagine he would look identical. He doesn't seem to have aged very much. So I feel like he would kind of look... Yeah, those guys are definitely...

50 Cent was the coolest one out of all of them because 50 cent was actually funny and he sort of kept up and he was still funny like if you follow him on instagram right now he still is but he had some uh interesting funny controversies like remember when he was filming people at the airport and then he was like look at this idiot or whatever it turned out to be like a retarded guy oh yeah that was insane yeah do you remember when he made a bet with he made a bet with floyd mayweather that he couldn't read the first page yeah he's funny yeah he's like he's a funny troll he's a funny and then he went bankrupt and then he was saying he didn't he sell vitamin that was his yeah yeah yeah well he like he he was kind of maybe bankrupt or something on like paper but

he had they knew he was hiding money. Yeah, they like knew he was hiding all this money and stuff. And then apparently someone had given him or like he bought Bitcoin when it was like really low. Yeah. And then he somehow came out that he had all this Bitcoin and then he was saying he was broke, but then he was taking photos of him with, you know,

like rappers do with like stacks and stacks of cash. But that's weird, right? Because as a rapper, you can be bankrupt. But also part of your image is being the guy that's around stacks of cash. So it's like I'm bankrupt except for the posing money. Absolutely. I have a minimum level of $3 million kept in $1 bills. That we brought in.

That's my zero. Yeah. Anything on top of that. Yeah. But I think as a true like wealthy person, what was actually happening is he wasn't bankrupt he was just hiding his money yes and stuff he's like oh i'm bankrupt i can't pay my who reckons the richest guy on the super bowl line it's got to be dre surely with dre beats by dre it's 100 percent true no question that made him yeah well we were gonna talk that's the one more cultural thing before i was just a final thing after that but the um if we could talk

about the kanye thing i wanted to hear about that because to me the it's been pretty sick watching uh it's probably one of my favorite things lately has been kanye west on instagram and legitimately i was tuning in where i would go check his instagram every hour whatever what can you i was loving it can you take me through the descent well basically they broke up and then he's posting online every day she's with p davidson uh or whatever dating p davidson and he's posting pretty funny stuff like just a photo of him being like look at this dickhead yeah and then he calls him skeet right and then and then he was you know so everyone goes oh he's going crazy and to some

of it it's very smart because he's you know got some album coming out and this is sort of what he does uh he knows how to drum up controversy right and then there's the part of it kind of like anything where i believe that yeah he's like yeah i do want to whatever get my family back but also that happens to coincide with what makes me more popular. Yeah, remember the last- The release of Donda 2, yeah. Right, yeah. Whenever the album before Donda, remember he was saying he was bankrupt and this was his whole thing

and everybody was talking about the fact that Kanye goes, yeah, I'm bankrupt. He's always got some new thing. And he just knows exactly how to- But he's got- He reminds me of Charlie Sheen energy where he was fighting back against the media and you could go, yeah, this is too wild, but I just like that anyone's fighting back yeah and he was basically

because every you know immediately does this everyone writes a million articles but be about how he's bad or whatever and he does do a good job of sort of painting these like David versus Goliath stories for himself where he might being one of the best known men on the planet right yeah but he isn't the whole media went in on him and then he was talking about Pete Davidson who has a Hillary Clinton tattoo or whatever and he's like, look at this dumb ass shit or whatever. And then Judd Apatow posted making fun of him or whatever

and he goes, look, this is what Hollywood does when you don't get the Hillary tattoo. And he's kind of saying- I didn't see that. Yeah, he was just saying, you know, it went back and forth between like, whoa, and like, pretty funny. And, he was just saying, you know, it went back and forth between like, whoa, and like pretty funny. And then he would delete his entire Instagram.

And he posts. 13 posts or some shit. And then he just deleted them all. And then he puts new ones up. And he deletes them all and puts new ones up. But he posts actual like communications with his wife or ex-wife Kim Kardashian. And she's like, hey, can you please stop posting?

Like he's posting the text of her. Like, can you please stop posting this stuff, he's posting the text of her. Like, can you please stop posting this stuff? Like, you're going to put Pete in danger and you're putting people in danger by this. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, I don't disagree. I'm sure if you're Pete Davidson, like, not to be sympathetic or whatever,

but, you know, there's a lot of people who I'm sure follow Kanye who for some clout be like, yeah, I'm going to be the guy who goes and knocks Pete Davidson. Well, it's the same thing with Ari. Lots of hits and yeezys going after Pete Davidson. Yeah, I'm going to be that guy who goes to knock lots of kids in Yeezy yeah who goes I'm gonna be that guy who goes and knocks

Pete Davidson well when Ari had that with Kobe like a lot of people did want to feel like I'm gonna fuck this guy up yeah I'm gonna be that guy

like I'm gonna be that guy who everybody remembers for like doing that fuck man but he is kind of it's just you know whatever these like kind of

manic fits but I always like like wild people like that he does seem pretty manic he's got that Ryan Long 19 year old energy hasn't he i don't think i'm as manic i think i was i think i'm destructive but i don't think i get manic okay yeah yeah i don't know you've known me for a while you're not you're not manic like no he seems actually like legit manic where he maybe doesn't sleep for two days at a time. You just get on, you just get on an idea. And I know lots of people like that.

You just get an idea and just, you know, you can't let it session. Yeah. I mean, that's probably what makes him a good music producer. And again, Sean King called him problematic.

Oh yeah. Who's Sean King. He's like this, uh, big, big black, uh, big,

like black power guy. But like everyone says that he's white and his skin looks white. And it's like, he, his mom said that he's white and his skin looks white and it's like his mom said that he's white. No, they have actual, like, his mother's white. Basically, he made himself this big figure in the kind of, like, Black Lives Matter stuff. But all black people have turned on him now.

They went from... They now basically shit on him. Even though he kind of was for a bit like a kind of figurehead. But there is this thing where people people like he they have photos of him when he was and they straight up say he's like he's like rachel dolezal like he's a white guy who's just pretending to be black and take the test and he well he doesn't want there's been people who have offered huge sums of money in exchange for him taking a 23 and me and he's just like i'm not doing it i don't know

i don't know you and then his excuses he's not excused because both his parents were white but what he says is that his mother cheated i believe it's something like his mother cheated on his father with a black man so he goes i am black was rachel dolezal the one that turned out to be 132 they really do have different people in britain I would have thought the American culture seeped in there more. No, you know it was Rachel Dolezal. No, she was a NAACP chapter leader somewhere in America. And then it just came out that she looked kind of black and she had a tan. And then her parents were like, yeah, she's white.

Just tans well. She's not black. Zero percent black. Who was the politician that claimed that she was Native American and then did some tests? Elizabeth Warren. Turned out to be like 164th. Yeah, 0.

It's the trace amount. Shit. So if we were going to say, I don't know if you were, it sounds like you're to some degree into that life hack world and stuff like that, right? Yeah. What do you think,

what's some of your top two or three or whatever if you have any you know stuff like that okay so speed your trackpad up on your laptop put it at the maximum speed that you can get it's a great one it's so fucking you're just moving around the speed i actually just got a new lap this laptop right here and i had to i was using it for a minute i go what's going on here dragging it because my old one is is sped up or whatever, and I sped it up. And yeah, I can't like... Such a game changer, right?

So that YouTube premium is a fucking... Oh, really? You think so? So worth it. I've always refused. Me too. I promise you, because you can do a 30-day free try.

I fucking should get commission here. And you just don't see ads anymore. Never. Yeah, you're right. Think about how many times... How much is it? $9. Yeah, this're right. Think about how many times. How much is it? $9 a month. Yeah, this does seem like a branded content we're doing.

And can you play it offline? Yep. Download offline. That's a huge one. And you can play it when it's locked. So if you're listening to something, you can just lock it and it'll keep playing. You're right. So everything's like a podcast.

It's pretty good. Oh, that is pretty good. Have you ever heard someone who doesn't have Spotify Premium? I have that. They're listening to tracks and then an advert comes on you go what are you being you being serious you don't pay for spotify yeah and they can't pick individual songs that's now what you know non-youtube premium is like you know lebron james is so famously cheap that he has spotify shut up he's like legit he's like i don't he's and he's like doesn't go over his data and stuff

no he seriously is like legit he's like a frugal guy so yeah YouTube premium speedy trackpad up sleep with your phone

outside of your bedroom that's fucking that's tough unreal just buy a radio alarm clock put your charger outside of your room leave your phone

I like to wake up and write things down though just get a pad and pen or something like just get a just walk over pen or something like that like a chisel like it's 1940 you're right i don't sleep with my i mean i've heard that one before and i keep well you so what you have to do is get a normal alarm clock right yes well here's another one i have my phone and i keep my phone my bedroom's near my kitchen and i just plug my phone in my kitchen and it's loud enough to wake me up although

for my other show yesterday i had to change my because it's a call and show so i had to change my like ringer because it would ring during the show and then i forgot to change it back and then i overslept half an hour this morning because i couldn't hear it because i forgot that i changed it so it's complex yeah yeah but you can get here's another one so they do sunrise alarm clocks so especially if you're somewhere that doesn't have a ton of sun, maybe in the wintertime, it starts a bright light that gets lighter and lighter and lighter over time. Do you do that? Yeah.

Yeah, it's dope. Especially in the UK. It's dark from 4 p.m. until 8 a.m. in the middle of winter. So it's so good. It just means that you wake up to light usually rather than sound, and then it'll do sound after a little bit of time. Yeah, I used to have one of those too. It didn't seem to work for me.

I just need just scary noises. Yeah, aggression. I need like a drill sergeant noise. Like my girlfriend hates it. Drill rap. Yeah, drill rap. There you go. You could wake up to some nice drill rap.

Yeah. Gunshots. Right. I would love to get my phone in the other room, but I've tried that two or three times, and I always quit. This is like the NoFap thing again. Yeah.

Yeah, so that would be one. There's an application for Mac called Alfred, which is fucking unbelievable, and it gives you an unlimited amount of clipboard history. So, you know, typically you can copy the last thing that you had. With Alfred, you can copy the last, like, 100 things, and it just keeps a little clipboard of it. Oh, that's cool.

It's fucking unbelievable. And then you can have things called snippets. So you can have a couple of letters that expand out into either some text. I do that. Yeah, so you'll have a text replacement. Mine will be like, hey, thanks for the message, but I'm not interested in doing that show. You know what, I remember. You just type in type in he and then he goes hey man really appreciate it yeah yeah I actually remember when that first came out our buddy Kevin we snagged his phone and we changed

like lol to like I'm gay or something so then he's's like tweeting, he would send something, I think it was LOL, and he's just like, I'm gay. And he had no idea how to turn it off. I still have a couple that I'll type the right combo every now and then, and I'll type, well, here's one. I'll tell you one I did. If I type in the first two of my,

the first half of my email, it does the rest of the email. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so easy. So that, your address, postal address, phone number, stuff like that. I does the rest of the yeah yeah yeah that's so easy so that um your address postal address phone number stuff like that i should do that with the postal yeah yeah it's super easy or you know if you've got a responses like you had there uh yes thanks for the booking or no i can't do it or whatever like all that stuff's fucking dope so yeah the clipboard

manager is unbelievable as well it just means that you're moving around the screen a lot less so those are those are some good ones. I would say getting a good notes application, so like Apple Notes. We use Evernote. Yeah, Evernote. Notion is unbelievable as well. And just putting everything onto that, that's going to make your life a lot easier. Evernote's been pissing me off lately with their

key for probably a year. They say, hey, we have this deal 40% off, but if you click now, like if you say no now, you'll never get it again. And they show it to me every day. Dude, I don't know. It's old school now.

Yeah, but I'm like, stop saying I'm never going to get it again. You show it to me every day. They do do annoying things sometimes. Have you ever had a Squatty Potty? Do you know what one of those is? Yeah, yeah. They have one at Gas Digital. Squatty Potty is legit, man.

I think, yeah. Unkink that rectal shaft, yeah. I used one for a bit. It was weird. Danny was showing up to parties holding this fucking... When I went to... You know what's funny?

When I went to Thailand when I was probably like 15 years ago and they have the squat, like, you know, the squat toilet. It's a hole in the ground. Hole in the ground. Literally a hole in the ground. But it's whatever, porcelain.

And I remember it was so foreign to me that I had decided when I arrived, I'm like, this is too much for me. No dumps for the entire trip no i'm just like i'm finding a toilet all the time and then we went he found apparently you can pay someone 10 bucks to be your toilet and then we went on some like jungle thing and i remember i literally was so like i was like so stupid but i took a bunch of i don't know if it's like emodium whatever just to back you up essentially right so that because i was like i'm gonna take so much i'll do it at the end of this two days and then because i knew that that was my only option are you serious you

constipated yourself so you didn't have to shit so i didn't want to shit crazy okay i would love to fucking see you go uh shit in a hole in the ground, Ryan. I don't want to actually watch it, but I want to see you afterwards. I was saying, that's why you call girls birds, because then when they shit on you, it's good luck. And then I remember I finally did. And then now in hindsight, I'm like, you know what? Actually, that's not so bad.

Good position. And yet your knees are also good. If you walk into the bathroom when Danny's taking a shit, he's got his legs up in the air. Like in Asia, literally, if you're in Asia,ia like you see 80 year old men and women squatting and they're neat like their range of motion range of motion is like uh childs and it's because they fucking shit like that and they sit like that as well that's what you need man and that's what you do uh yeah yeah it's good it's good here's something i found in America, you have really high toilets. Really?

Yeah. Compared to the UK. Are people taller here? Maybe. Yeah, there are a lot of fucking tall people in America. A lot of fat people here. So I think, I will say, you probably would see less of when you see a toilet and it's like kind of crunched in.

You know what I mean? Like, I think I remember that about UK, like smaller stalls. Yeah. Where people are beasts over here. Right? You've got to be able to get the mobility scooter in and out yeah the what they're called rascals rascals rascals and those are popular here very it is a way better thing i one thing that i was i've been trying to do uh lately is when

things uh whenever things get like too much is going on try to make just okay you're only allowed to pick three things and those are the only things you're allowed to focus on like this week or this month or whatever be like okay fucking whatever you're thinking about that all that this week only think it's like stand up this this and that's try to cut out all of it and then even yeah that's generally a good strategy well most i don't you just collect so much clutter in your day-to-day life as you get fucking older most of what a to-do list is is the things that you're not doing rather than the things that you are doing right like it's a prioritization list as opposed to a to-do list because you've got tons of shit to do yeah okay what am i going to do first so from this that you are right that's exactly what it is you're

you're making a list that like gives you the permission to not do the other precisely precisely yeah it's saying no to everything else and saying yes to this one thing as opposed to the reverse uh the best thing that i found for productivity is like what is the single most important thing to do that gets done first like let's say that you've got one big thing to do each day and three little things that you need to do if you do that big thing it's going to have more impact than all of the rest of your to-do list combined right but that's the one that always gets put off because it's usually the most difficult or the most challenging or whatever just do that first do that first and the rest of the day is going to be a super really easy to you yeah

that's a huge one i know but sometimes that's why it's it's i think sometimes it's easier when you're not in creative fields because it's like there is this up and down to probably any entrepreneurial thing or whatever. There is this also a graph or whatever of some sort where sometimes the more that you try to hone everything in and itemize it and make your life very regimented, the more you try to regiment your life the more you just get away from doing anything that constrains the fucking creativity right

this is this is why you need to find the like balance who was that dude who was that writer that had the insane daily routine and rogan spoke about it a couple of years ago and it was like awake at 3 p.m line of cocaine oh charles wachowski no or no i'm not because um who wrote the fear and loathing in las vegas uh who wrote fear and loathing in las vegas who referred to laptops uh what's the fuck his name why can't i remember this uh hunter s thompson yes him but that's how you get creatives that have these bizarre routines those are good short term they're not that like sprint sprint sprint thing sustainable it's not very sustainable yeah especially you know again he lived in a time or you know was making a lot of this stuff in a time when maybe you make

something a year or you make two he wasn't living in a time where like all the best people are you know just have these like crazy regiments of how much stuff they put out here's a way to do it right that you would be able to get around that and gives you a nice blend between the creative stuff that you need to do in a little bit of regimenting stuff just have a morning routine so my advice would be you need to walk as soon as you wake up just go for a walk i run for as soon as i get up first thing it's just uh optic flow it's called so you're moving through a landscape and it's going past you it It's just going to run out of the bathhouse. Oh, I fell asleep here again. And yeah, go for a walk, get back, maybe do a little bit of reading and think about what you can do for the day.

Like that's a 25 minute morning routine. And every single day that you know that you're doing something, maybe you've spent a bit of time reading or meditating or doing breath work or whatever. You've got a little bit of time to do something. It's like the rest of the day can go to absolute shit. And it's like you said about the gym earlier on,

you know, everything's gone to pot, but at least you got to go to the gym or have sex with this girl or whatever like at least you got your breath working first thing in the morning you've done a walk and then plan what you're going to do do the first thing first alfred apple notes or ever notes phones outside of the bedroom fucking you've won a life jordan peterson's pretty big on the regimented sleep schedule but that you need a regimented life to be able to always regiment the sleep schedule. Yeah, very much so. Especially if you're traveling internationally. Tough one.

Is he going overseas? Everywhere, man. That tour is huge. It's serious. I'm sure it's doing numbers. One thing that I was going to say is that, so when I was, whenever I was, uh, getting into, uh, trying to stuff,

whatever lifestyle designer things that make your life better. And I was growing up. I felt like the biggest thing was always everyone saying, you know, all the top people read or whatever. Right. But I feel as I've gotten older, I'm like,

Hey, I feel like is readings for chicks. Readings for chicks readings for the girls dude readings for the gals but more importantly i feel like with you know podcasting and all that stuff there's like i don't know there's more about audiobooks does that still fall well sort of you know what i find is the less when i like and this applies to comedy a bit but the less i physically read versus audiobooks the worse i find my vocabulary gets in terms of it's better if you read physically just seeing the word like actually seeing the words versus um hearing them

when i listen in an audiobook or whatever just in terms of when i go to like when i'm searching for a word i feel when i'm reading i'm more likely to get i retain more from from reading versus listening but i think you're right i think that the problem was that whatever all of the best billionaires on the planet read books and stuff would have been before podcasts and before Audible and before YouTube and before... I think so, right? Well, I think...

It's about the information. It's like you can say, oh, there's some therapeutical benefit of the actual thing and I go, that sounds like fucking hogwash. I find for me though, because I do listen to audio books,

but if I'm listening to... You're big enough? You're strong enough? If I'm listening to an audio book, I'm listening to it more than once. Really? Yeah. To retain it?

Yeah, to actually retain it if it's something that has kind of practical information. There's a Pray Away the Gay book. Pray Away the Gay. Every morning. Just stare in the mirror and I just listen to that thing. I'm going to need to take that for a second spin.

I don't need to listen. This is my life hack too is I listen to it on half speed. Really slow. You're not gay. I don't even listen. This is my life hack too is I listen to it on half speed. Really slow. You're not gay. Do you read? Yeah, a little bit.

I can. Yeah, I feel, I don't know. The only time I would do it is if I went on like a vacation and you go, you know, you're sitting at the beach or whatever and you've got to do something. So you, you know, I pretend that you like reading or something.

Yeah, yeah. It's weird though. You have the cutout with your phone inside of it. I swear to God, I feel like I'm doing an impersonation of a human being. When I sit on the beach and read, like everyone else, I know imposter syndrome.

I don't get that in normal life. I get imposter syndrome when I'm doing normal things that normal people do. Like grocery shopping, I get imposter syndrome. I go, I'm not a woman. I swear, doing normal. Like grocery shopping, I get imposter syndrome. I go, I'm not a woman. I swear, doing normal things like grocery shopping, I feel weird doing them. I would pay money to watch

you trying to figure out what the right produce is. What's your solution? You have to eat things. What do you do? Oh, don't get into it. I don't do the shopping. Who does the shopping? I don't know. Anytime I'm dating someone, I feel like they do it. No, I don't do the shopping. Who does the shopping? I don't know. Anytime I'm dating someone, I feel like they do it.

Or I would just order all the stuff. If I'm doing it myself, I usually get, you know, like... Tell them about the cheese dreams. Cereal. No, sandwiches. Yeah, I don't get anything crazy. I get a lot of microwave dishes. I love the idea of you having imposter syndrome of being a human.

Just doing normal shit. Folding clothes. Folding clothes going, look at me. This isn't how somebody would do it. No one knows that I'm not a real human. I actually do though. It's those specific things. At a beach, any beach activities where we're supposed to... Like frisbee?

Frisbee would be an example of one. Like if I was playing catch with a Frisbee on the beach, I'd go, oh yeah, look, we're doing it. I do feel like a guy that's pretending to fit in. He looks like a robot that was just programmed to play the Frisbee. It's like looking at its hands. Becoming self-aware.

Jet skiing. Become sentient in that moment. Yeah, that would be an example of one. Jet skiing. Jet skiing. Shopping's the big one. Like I feel, yeah, being at a grocery store. I would love to watch you try and find like avocados.

Just that process of just. I don't even get bananas at the grocery store. Keep it simple. That's his big hack. Keep it simple. Keep it simple, stupid. But that was kind of like the most of this stuff that I wanted to kind of go through on the podcast or whatever. And I think, no, it's interesting that like, I guess you sort of filled this one of this new spaces where you're kind of I don't know what are you a public intellectual

like what are you yeah what is it you know what I mean just podcasted yeah oh podcast you're just a podcaster and you're right but it's like a curious guy that's where podcasting kind of goes is you sort of enter all those areas of you're gonna obviously get pushed into the the muck of what you shouldn't say politically and all that stuff yeah well if you're being honest in any sort of way right it's hard to not end up getting falling into the culture wars because you know that it's going to get you clout you know that those are the people you know look at like a whatever a ben shapiro or something just tens of billions of plays per month because he's always on top of whatever the next and you also get forced into it right because you know, just you saying what you already think, there's some part of that where

if someone says, oh, well, oh, you're on that. I'll disagree with your opinion. And then you're sort of thrust into it. And you must be part of that tribe or that tribe. And you go, well, I said my own thing, but I guess I am. And then that's how people get tribal. Yeah. Yeah.

So no, it's just doing podcasting, man. I'm out here in New York for another week and a bit. I'm going to come see you do one of your shows next week, I think, which I'm excited to do. This weekend?

No, it's going to have to be next week. Okay, yeah, yeah. So I'm going to come see you do some of your shows and then back off to Austin for a month and a bit. And then you're, oh, what are you going to do in Austin?

Just do more of the show, record over there. I really enjoyed it. I spent November and December there. I think it's really, really cool. It's a nice place i know austin's very cool i'm actually gonna be there i think in two weeks i think too so i'll be there might be the same time yeah yeah i think i'm gonna do you know a tour and the same thing kind of do like podcasts and stuff like that around because i'm releasing like a special it's a fucking good version of this simulation whichever

one we're living in where you can go and just have conversations with people all over the world yeah it is pretty cool i was i i try to remember that too that you know because there is a lot of people that are you know pining for the good old days or whatever and it's it's good to remember that you're just like dude you can just you can go anywhere you want you could like do your job online essentially if you want to if you want to work hard enough you can figure out a way to probably make enough money pretty easily to live yeah yeah so i think that a lot of people yeah when you start but that's probably why i'm big one of my pet peeves is the pining for the good old days uh and then you're just like there's so much shit where i go yeah you would go to your friend's house and then he would just like not be there and you go I guess that's the day you know I mean that's that's the end of that yeah you know having a having a show I remember right now if I have a show I could find out who's on the show

find their Instagram text them and be on my way showing up late have it sorted out you know what I mean not only that before you'd be three hours in the car just like fucking oh fuck like am i gonna make you just like living in constant stress the fact that you have an interactive map of the world in your pocket i can't imagine like i'm not a great directions guy you're not really either just getting around everywhere like we moved to new york city imagine if we moved to new york city 20 years ago it'd be insane you're like trying to go somewhere on the subway and you're looking at that fucking map. You're like, I go here. I got lost with the thing.

That's what I'm saying. My first, when I first moved to New York, I got on the subway and went the wrong direction. I'm not kidding. More times than I didn't. And it was very frequent. I would be going to like Brooklyn and I would be like, are we in Brooklyn?

They go, you're in Harlem. Yeah, yeah, oh, me too. My first week was rough. Okay, and want to tell everyone where I can find you and all that stuff? Yeah, sure. So Chris Williamson on YouTube, Modern Wisdom Podcast, wherever you tune in, Apple Podcasts, Spotify.

And if you want a list of books, there's a reading list, 100 books that you should read before you die if you're a girl if you're a chick yeah exactly chriswillex.com slash books what's the top one? what's your top one?

Essentialism by Greg McKeown it's basically the whole book says stop worrying about all of the other shit and just focus on a couple of little things and that's it Essentialism by Greg McKeown it's fucking dope that's the thesis of it?

yep just stop worrying about all of the trivial little things and just work out what you want in life and then ruthlessly call everything else so it's basically what we spoke about earlier on i'm gonna buy that yeah for my girlfriend as a prank we don't read this she goes right that does seem more like a dude philosophy yeah very much is yeah but yeah i think that and then because there is that you you know, I know we're going into it again, but like there's the idea of, you know, you're kind of playing the game or whatever,

but what, and you are the most happy when you're in the game, when you're moving forward at something. Oh, yeah. You have your things that you like and you're moving forward. That's why when everything's stable and nothing's moving forward,

that's the times that I get the most fucking. It's like when you're, it's like a boat or a plane, you know, when you're not moving. You get agitated if stuff's too calm. That's the times that I get the most fucking... It's like a boat or a plane, you know, when you're not moving. You get agitated if stuff's too calm. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know that saying that there's three people on a ladder,

what's the best one to be? Like, there's a... Never heard that before. So there's one's the bottom, one's the middle, one's the top. And the best one to be, it's the one that's still climbing. I thought that was cool.

Yeah. Well, because... I don't feel like that was one of the three options you presented. I just thought they were there. They were fixed on the ladder. Well, I didn't tell you the third thing, that they're still climbing,

but the idea is, anyone can think of someone that's, you know, more successful than you, doing better than you, all that stuff, but they're on their way down, and it's better to be moving up than it is to be moving down.

Yep, I'm down for that like you'd rather be you'd rather be passing the guy on Everest who's on his way down and be like I'll let you know what it's like at the top he goes I was just at the top you're better off being in the relationship that like you're liking each other more than the relationship that you're slowly hating just slowly deteriorating

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We had a banger last night. It was a fun one. Fuck yeah. All right. Thanks for coming on buddy. Sweet. Thanks. Peace.