The Boyscast with Ryan Long - Daejon Love is the Funniest Scammer of All Time

Episode Date: September 4, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are about to take you on a journey into the fraudulent world of the most misunderstood man on the internet. San Francisco 49ers star player Dijon Love. The boys. The boys cast. The dance. The dudes. Prepare your sons for boys' cast. The bro.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Just the boys' cast. The holy. Just the voice cast. The dude. This is the boys cast. NFL's starting NFL is starting up or I'm trying to think of it hasn't started but it's it aligns well with what we're about to chat about we're in the saddle yeah we're in the saddle tinder swindler off the hook dejan love was arrested for allegedly posing a San Francisco 49ers wide receiver now we know we know from experience that women scam with sex yeah men scam with love and status now people are mad at Dijon love which is a great name by the the way, that he has misrepresented himself. Oh, slightly, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:13 I've also been in a similar situation where I had an ex-girlfriend and misrepresented her herself, where I find out she didn't have a job. I find out she had some debt. I find out she didn't have emotional regulation. All of which, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, all of which was brought to me on my first date that she had all in order. Right. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:34 So everybody's swindling. Everybody's scamming. Ladies and gentlemen, this woman right here posed as a sane woman. She sent me multiple videos leading me to believe that this was a woman with her sanity intact. A woman who had a good relationship with those around her. That she did not have big blowout relationships with their friend. That she had zero ex-boyfriends that she owed money to. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Yeah. You go, if he's guilty, then she's guilty. And she's guilty And you're guilty The judge is a woman And you're guilty She goes what the fuck You had your romance scam
Starting point is 00:02:13 You've also You've also had a romance scam yourself We've all been romance scammed I'm currently involved in one What was yours? Being married No but what was the joke I can't remember the exact joke
Starting point is 00:02:24 Oh the wrong It's just the fake news thing The victim of a romance scam It was just in a marriage Yeah It's been married for 10 years I too am the victim of a romance scam Watch here's how you guys can
Starting point is 00:02:36 find all the telltale signs. Oh, that's what it was. You were like, and then it started this, and then now she starts, now before I know what I'm going on vacation. Yeah, just all the stuff. And you go, I think I'm in a romance scam. So, we have, right now, we're about to present a case. We have videos. By the way, like,
Starting point is 00:02:52 I had sympathy, a little more sympathy for the Tinder swindler victims than this. This shit is. At least at least the Tinder swindler, you couldn't just, in two seconds go Google and verify, like what he was talking about. This is, in insane. Like, you're saying you play in the NFL, like, that is the most easily verifiable thing.
Starting point is 00:03:12 And there are women, to their credit, who were like, this guy's obviously, probably tons, yeah. Tons who were like, you know, when it's come out where like, this guy's obviously scamming me. Like, this one girl's like, yeah, I know people who play football. Like, you don't have one highlight reel or anything. Like, you don't have one video of you on YouTube playing football? What are you talking about? He has a video of him running on the beach with his shirt off and his helmet on. Everybody knows. Every NFL player. I mean, the funny thing is. They practice with their helmets.
Starting point is 00:03:37 They all do now. Like all these NFL players are like loving this and they're all like the beach with their fucking helmet. Because I all think it's hilarious. Going for a run on the track with your helmet on? Yeah. Like it's obscene. It's absurd. Well, here's the question.
Starting point is 00:03:51 So out of the gate. Also NFL players don't need money. No. Danny, that's not the scam. And you have to give him some credit where credit is to. His scam was not. Let the record state that I know. need your money. The scam was like, I am here to get your life in order and you're going to have
Starting point is 00:04:13 to listen to me because I need multiple stereotypes I play too. He's a rich black athlete and then he goes my investment guy is an 18 year old Asian kid. Oh yeah. 18 years old. He goes this is the money wizard and everybody's like he's Asian. He must be good. Good choice with the Asian. Yeah. Yeah. He must be like really smart. He's Asian obviously. Exactly. I feel like I can give my money to him. Now it started I want to ask my question So when men get scammed, right? Like a lot of times
Starting point is 00:04:44 Let's say you see I'm sure you've had this situation where you see Super Hot Chick on Facebook Back in the day Four followers and three of them are like Comedians we know. Oh yeah You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:56 It was more than three It would be like 50 of you follow this fucking Russian bot What is wrong with you? And maybe me and you have been a little more tapped into internet stuff. I guess. So I've never, I don't think I've ever had anything that wasn't like completely obvious. So I've never been close to anything like this, right? However, the question is, when you see like, you know, some of these guys we know, and you go, he's taking a shot with it, is, you'd like to think that he's like a part of him is kind of like, here goes nothing. I'm
Starting point is 00:05:26 probably getting scammed, but five percent chance I bone and I have to take that five percent chance. Yeah. Now, are the women going, do you, I do not think so? I think that, I think that a lot I don't think the guys who are like 95% chance. This is a scam. I think they just see a hot chick. They go, oh, the hot chick's interested in me.
Starting point is 00:05:44 It's not 95%. Not maybe not 90%, but I think that at least some of them's like, yeah, yeah, this might go's nothing. Like put my guard up. Now,
Starting point is 00:05:53 are the women saying like, ah, this might be a scam, but this guy's just too good to, you know, not take that chance? Or are they saying like, I'd,
Starting point is 00:06:02 fuck yeah. The ones that go through with it, Are they saying like, ha ha, everyone said that I couldn't have an NFL player? Yeah, I think this guy's playing like a numbers game where you're just, which a lot of Connors do. Like, you know, when they talk about all these like, you know, these crazy Indian call center like IRS scams. Like the whole point is that it's just a volume game, right? Where obviously there's people who are like, this is an obvious scam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You want that just the top 1% of people who are just easily scammed play just a huge volume game. And then like he was obviously swiping right on every single one. that much of a volume game because he was sending them all videos and stuff like that. This is, you are right. That's true. The wire fraud game is, and that's what he's getting charged with wire fraud. And you are correct that it's a volume game. But his big problem that he made, and probably, which is different from all the volume game
Starting point is 00:06:51 people, is he's in America. I mean, he's playing, he's playing a Nigerian game from America. Yeah. So if you are there in your call center, you got a bunch of guys scamming old peels pensions, you got some romance scams going, you're sending out a lot of, thousand emails a minute. Sure, but you're in a different country and you're not able to get...
Starting point is 00:07:09 This guy's doing this from fucking America. I mean, he must be like an ab... I would guess, first off, he's in jail right now and he must be getting clown because everybody has phones there, so they're all seeing this played out. Now, do you think that once he gets into jail, he's going to keep this shit going? Yes. I think he's so pathological.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It seems like that that he's like, no, I'm telling you I played in the NFL. Like, yeah, it's just a big... This is like a huge misunderstanding. I just need some race me right now. Like he's like racing dudes in jail just to prove it. No, I'm saying he gets a hold of a phone and he's scamming more girls. Like, if you put some money on my commissary, I have an investor in jail.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Like, you know what I mean? I mean, dude, if he could get on cameo right now. That's true. Be printing on cameo. You're right, though. Like, at the end of the day, this might work out for him a little bit. And that's the world we're living in. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:07:58 It's the world we're living in folks. The thing is, yeah, we want him on the podcast. I don't know if he could. Open invite. Probably, yeah, he's going to jail for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's getting, I would say not like a crazy, but you think like we'll get five years or something. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Something. It seems like he's a lot of victims, a lot of, and that's the thing. Every victim is its own wire fraud charge, right? So they're stacking them up. He must have a lot of charges. Sure. I saw a woman on TMZ, and they didn't interview with her one of the women. But it's funny because they do, like, as if she's like a mobster that,
Starting point is 00:08:33 you know when they have someone that's like a, you know, whatever, a mobster that rats or whatever, and they show their face and change their voice, she's doing that. So some of the women that have come... Oh, they're embarrassed. They're so embarrassed. But some of the women that come forward are doing the interviews, and they have them in the shadows, and he'd be like, he told me, he's a... He told me that he loved me.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah, yeah. And there's something so funny about that, right? Yeah, it's pretty funny. He said that I'm the only woman for him. And it's a big blob. Very big shadow Oh yeah I would guess he had to plug his nose
Starting point is 00:09:09 For a few of these Did he bang any of the chicks I think He must have He got his hooks into a couple of I mean he's saying like all these He's telling him He loves them
Starting point is 00:09:18 And well here's if you want to hang out with them Because he's always telling them Like yeah I'm gonna be like here And like let's hang out Let's meet up He's using the lover boy method Yeah the lover boy method Do you think this guy is a big
Starting point is 00:09:29 Like Andrew Tate guy He probably got some tips Yeah he's probably read all the stuff he's read seduction he read yeah i'm curious for guys like this because he seems so pathological like if it's innate to him that he just is born with just like the the playbook on how to do this like he just naturally knows how to manipulate in this way no i think they start with other scams and then they work their way into these or they you know he he's probably been doing running small little hustles on every woman he's ever been with like the ones where
Starting point is 00:09:58 you convince them to let oh i just my life's got uh i'm just waiting for some money can i stay with you for two months and then you move in and you I saw another I just need a little babe I just need a little bit money I'll get you back I'm rich yeah the NFL is like we're on strike I think he's been trying out all these he did a basketball one there was uh saying he's been trying out little things for
Starting point is 00:10:16 these guys these kids were like he showed up to our gym and then was saying that he played overseas but it wasn't there was a scam he just was just lying being like yeah I play overseas trying out the identity yeah like I'm overseas basketball player and then like we started playing and they were all like cooking this guy Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:34 But we like, they're all like, we liked them. They were really likable guy, but we were just like, I think on an argument I was making someone sitting the other day about the WNBA stuff where you, if you look at it and you were like, okay, if, if when you're talking about, like tennis or sports that have categories, like yeah, maybe you could find a scenario that, you know, you kind of find an even match up where you're like, okay, this is a man, but he's like 80 pounds last maybe or whatever but you go when I was like 16 for example and I played hockey if you put me in like this and I was like I played like uh I guess you would say in my town for my
Starting point is 00:11:13 age you're like I don't know you're like the 12th best in the town or something right okay if you put me in my if you put me against 16 year old women it was like how many goals do you go however many I wanted it if I wanted to score 12 goals I score 12 goals I mean the goalies for one like every goalie now in the NHL is like 6-4. Right, so the point I'm kind of making to you is you go, if you played like overseas and you go play against like teenagers and you are like a professional basketball player in your 20s or whatever and you come play against 15-year-olds, you go, how many points do you score?
Starting point is 00:11:44 You go, as many as I want. Yeah. Like if I want it to be 80-0, it's 80-0. Yeah, you're like, you played a minimum like college basketball in the U.S. Right. Right. So you could just dummy them. Kill them, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:54 That's why these kids were like, yeah, yeah. It's a bad skin. Why would he put himself vulnerable like that? That's where you have to think he's stupid because if he goes, You know, I'm this like, pro basketball player, and then he goes in... Well, there was no scam at that point. He was just straight lying. But he's trying out.
Starting point is 00:12:05 He's trying getting into it. Maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, again, that's the one thing you don't want to do is go play football or basketball. Well, a lot of people, you know, the scam stuff is always interesting to me. Like when the Tinder Swindler was like, you know, very, very, we went into deep into that. But we've talked about this before, but when they mentioned, they catch me if you can guy, a lot of people have kind of come out and being like, yeah, no, like, he clunkily sort of did a couple. those. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, they made him this mastermind and a lot of people after the
Starting point is 00:12:34 fact are like, like, nah, it's not really like that. Like, he wasn't driving planes and yeah, yeah, yeah, he kind of scammed his way into a few things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like they kind of jinned it up a little bit. But it's crazy just because you're guaranteed to get caught. That's the really insane thing with the stuff is that it's just a guarantee you get caught. Right, because once you steal the woman's money and lose it, like, doesn't even lose it. He's like, give it to me to invest. And then he just ghosts that. them. Like that was his whole thing. Right. So then how do you, yeah, at that point, like, I guess the ideas you're like, well, she's so embarrassed. But there's a numbers game. If you go, yeah, 90% of women won't come forward because they lost $2,000 because they're so embarrassed. You're like, okay, but if you do it 100 times, one will. Yeah. And again, they don't have to come forward to the news. They just go, like, file a police report. Like, I don't know. I don't think the embarrassment is so crazy for some people where you're like, I won't go file a police report. Because it's not really public. Well, it does go public. Well, it does go public. And obviously some women, you know, you know, know, but still, it's just like, yeah, you go file a police.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Well, one of the woman, there was an old tweet that they found of her. So you want to talk about embarrassment. She said, went from dating these little Bay Area boys to want to date with an NFL player. Ladies, this is your sign to never settle. And then someone else posted, God damn, I wonder which player it is. And he said, and then she, then Juliana Carrow says, he is one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. That's all you need to know, Papa. And then she put it.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Best wide receivers. Does he have a highlight? Does he have any film? soever. Can I see a catch of his? Does he have a football card? Anything? Well, you don't know any of that stuff. I don't, okay, I know
Starting point is 00:14:09 maybe multiple women that didn't know wrestling was fake. Yeah, yeah. I just want to put that out there. It's like, I'll give them a little bit of credit on not knowing some of the intricacies of these things because I swear to you, the amount of women that I know that didn't know wrestling was fake.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And they're like, well, I don't know. I knew it was like theatrical. didn't really get the, they just don't get it. They don't even know what wrestling is. I mean, if I was dating a girl and she's like, I'm like a top ballerina in the world, for example, something I know nothing about. Yes. I would find out very quickly if this is true or not. In today's day and age, yes. Yeah, like in five minutes. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. I don't know. Well, here's the first thing you would say is you go, okay, so top NFL player, you would be like, any man in my life would know this. Correct. So then you, at,
Starting point is 00:15:00 like your brother or you ask your friend and then they've never heard of them and I mean any one of your male friends would be like not a chance you go you just type in 49ers roster that's it and you just say well he had answers for all these questions right yeah but they weren't great he said he had a thumb injury yeah I mean that'll keep you out of games if you're if you're a hands team guy that'll hurt yeah well did you know when you're scamming women I've kind of I've been thinking about this in the when I was to thinking about kind of the Lindsay Clancy stuff and in the nature of that. It's the women that like join Colts, it's like, it's all about them telling themselves a story
Starting point is 00:15:40 that works for them. Of course. And they don't want to, like, it is a common thing with a scam, like, uh, where scammers make something so too good to be true where you don't want to like lose the opportunity, right? So you could go along with it. You're like, I don't want to mess this up. So then they kind of just go along. I think that's more the guy one.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So the guy one is you do it by four. or the chance of like getting rich. Like the same reason men gamble. Like there's this chance of getting rich. I think that's more of like the masculine how you get scammed. Uh, yeah. And the feminine how I was getting scammed. And you can disagree with me.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm just, I'll say my theory was more this. That the feminine version's more like, you've told them like a story about themselves that they want to buy into. Right. And yeah, yeah, I agree. And they're like, I can attach myself and be part of this story.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, I'm the girlfriend of an NFL. player, like thinking of, oh my God, what's this life look like? It's way different than my current line. Yeah, I've manifested this. Yeah, like, I'm going to the Super Bowl, like all this stuff. So, yeah, you can see the whole thing. So it's, yeah, whereas men, you're sort of dangling like a specific carrot almost. Do you think there's any, and that carrot's pussy sometimes? Do you think there's
Starting point is 00:16:47 any correlation between the looks of the women and the percentage that they got scammed? 100%. That has to be. Yeah. Like, it's all just like, rough looking women who all got scammed, mostly. The hot ones didn't zero tens got scum. The Tuesday. Oh, this is a weird voice changer. Oh, they didn't use it here.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Fellas, do not forget to buy tickets for my tour because they have been going fast. I'm going to be in Tacoma, September 17th, the 19th. Then I'm going to Los Angeles, Irvine. Those will sell out, and I'm not adding more shows.
Starting point is 00:17:21 So do it. Phoenix, Edmonton, Calgary, D.C. Providence all up right now at punchup. Live slash Ryan Long. It's like, why they make her like in the shadows? Just tough to look at, to be honest. She's just rough on the eyes.
Starting point is 00:17:37 She didn't ask. She didn't ask. We're just doing this as a service for the viewers. Baby, I'll take you to any all you can eat buffet. You know, you know I got you, man. So the funniest parts, to me, that was very funny. We have some videos, but I'll just say, before we play a couple of videos.
Starting point is 00:18:01 The funniest part to me was that he did all of his excuses for why he wasn't on the roster, which was he has his thumb injury. Running on the beach with the helmet's probably my favorite. The fact that his accomplished was 18 years old, and then he had like, he was always having to explain to people. You think he knew he was 18? Yeah, like, did he say he was 18?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Well, he just look, suit Matt Young. And that's the thing. It's when the scam started, I think he's 18 now. So when the scam started, the scam was like 16. And then he started with his original, like you said he cycled through scams. But when he was talking to women, he started with this scam, which we have one video, that he was basically a, he was one of the richest families. He comes from one of the richest families in Switzerland. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And tons of black people in Switzerland. Well, yeah, it's like such. Why wouldn't he go with like a black country? I have no idea. Like why wouldn't you say that? Yeah. He said they owned... One of the richest people in Africa.
Starting point is 00:19:01 He's like, we're shareholders in Gucci stores or whatever. He's like, we own three Gucci stores. And then he called the street. Like, he's like, we own one in New York. It's on Sacks Fifth Avenue. Like, he thought the street was called Sacks Fifth Avenue. Like, at this point, all this time, I go, I have no sympathy for these ladies. Yeah, if a guy says he owns the store on Sacks Fifth Avenue, he goes, I own
Starting point is 00:19:30 three Gucci stores. One of them's on Sacks Fifth Avenue. I go, I don't know what to tell you. If this guy wasn't scamming you, someone else was going to. I actually own the Nike store. It's on Target 1st Avenue. And then also,
Starting point is 00:19:47 there was one woman that basically he'd been working her. And then she sort of went cold on him. And then three years later, this is going on for a while, every now and then he hits up his old leads. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:02 He probably just sets up. He has his list. Probably has like a full CRM software. Right. So he hits up his old leagues, his old leads. And one of the women that he was explaining that he was off the roster, he just, she's had a message of him. It was like a three year gap.
Starting point is 00:20:15 And then he just sent her a voice message three years later being like, good news. I'm in the league now. Like good news. I am on the roster. I am on the roster. See if that got her. Yeah. And I think he said he was like, I saw one video where he's like, he was trying out
Starting point is 00:20:27 for all these teams. And he's like, yeah, you know the bill. the bills and the Rams. I think I'm signing with the Rams, so I'm going to way to L.A. right now. It's just pathological. He was pretending to be at a game because the woman wanted, like, proof.
Starting point is 00:20:39 So he pretended that he was, like, at the stadium. And he was sending videos of, like, the stadium, but he just found videos online and screen recorded that. Yeah, I think he found, like, a locker room, like someone in a locker room, like, during a game, like, doing that. And then he just took their... So one of the women found out the metadata. They looked up the metadata.
Starting point is 00:20:59 And just found this is like a video online that he's screened recorded. Okay, so this is the first video. And this is his original thing when he was explained to everyone that he's like a Swiss, that he's a Swiss air. Okay. Too much to send on social media. It's just too much. So I'd rather just send videos. So to take it from the top, I was born in Switzerland.
Starting point is 00:21:27 I moved to America when I was 10 years old. I went to grade school in Los Angeles, private school. I went to a private high school, and then I moved to New York to a private college. My family is one of the richest families in Switzerland. My life is a lot different than most people's. For instance, I have three bodyguards. I have a private chef who will be here two. And he's also a private chef for an NFL wide receiver who plays for the second of a buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I own this is the fourth home I just bought this home last week and I paid $3.8 million for this home. I also own a $12 million beach house in Malibu, California. I own a $10 million beach house in South Beach, Miami, Florida. And I own a $10 million pin house downtown Manhattan, New York. So that's, First off, crazy red flags. Like, what, you're just, like, trying to chat up with this guy, and he's just listing off all his assets with values. You're like, what is going on? Well, this is after she was... Also, just, first off, you're, like, the, with accents, like the accent you have, I think, where they say when you're eight or something.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Oh, yeah, he moved here at 10. Yeah, he's like, talks like some dude from Houston. This guy's sloppy. Or whatever, L.A. and you're, yeah, you're like, you came here when you're 10, do you speak French? No. no lost it no
Starting point is 00:22:59 yeah you lost it you can't speak it anymore yeah you lost it I forgot French but your parents even though I grew up right obviously you grew up in Switzerland
Starting point is 00:23:08 for 10 years you don't speak any French huh yeah yeah it's odd I moved into this mansion yesterday yeah 12.7 million
Starting point is 00:23:17 and you know I just bought a car 412,000 and yeah anyways can you send me some money send me money I mean, it's like literally the number one thing.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Someone's bragging about how rich they are. I guess he's never saying he needs money. He's like, hey, I'm helping you with investments. See, can you not see a scenario where it's the other way around where a woman is like saying all this lies? And the guy's like, I know she's lying, but I still actually might be able to hit it. I'm sending her money. I know this is all baloney. But the scam is I'm trying to have sex with her.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So if she gets money and has sex with me, I'm like, fair. Yes. But the guys are different. A woman's like, okay, there's lots of rent. I'm a dick I can get on Tinder. That's what I'm saying. That's why it's a little different. The romance scams hit differently.
Starting point is 00:24:06 So you have a couple of videos. What was the funniest one you said? This was my favorite one. He's asking this woman for money. And the reason he needs the money is, well, I'll just play it. Well, we'll put it on. You don't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:24:21 No, no, I'm saying you don't have to do with your mic. We're going to put it on the screen. Oh, we'll put on the screen. But whenever I don't use all of that money, I don't put that money back. to my investment account myself, he does it for me because if I try and do it, it'll disrupt my algorithm. And you want to have an average income a month or a year. For me, it's a year. So I don't want to disrupt that, so I'll let him do it. So basically, what does he mean by algorithm?
Starting point is 00:24:48 No clue. I have no fucking idea. I guess he's hoping that he's just like a smart person buzzword. And the woman's like, essentially what he's saying is he need the reason he needs money from this woman. is because he's like, I get three deposits in my account, like my spending account every month. He's like, I get 400K and then 700K and then like another 700K. So basically close to $2 million a month, just to spend, right? But he's like, that's spending money. And he's like, if I don't use it, if I don't end up using it all, then it goes into my investment account. But the guy who runs my investment account, like doesn't like me, like he wants all that money to go in the investment account.
Starting point is 00:25:28 so then if I take money from there from the investment account, then it screws up my algorithm. So that's why I need money from you because it's going to mess up my algorithm. So basically he got his $2 million, and then he only, you know, he spent like $500,000. The guy took $1.5 and he's like, oh, wait a second, I need more.
Starting point is 00:25:44 He's like, sorry. Sorry, yeah, yeah. It's not how the algorithm works. Yeah, you know how the algorithm works. It's all about the algroarer, right? So it's all the money's back in his investments. And then he's just like, oh, it's going to screw up my investment algorithm. My investment algorithm, essentially.
Starting point is 00:25:56 have you ever heard the term investment algorithm no like the only again algorithm makes no sense in this context maybe he's saying like oh well he's buying these things and then you would have to sell them again and then there'd be like a capital gain but again that would be minimal uh also you know none of it makes sense it doesn't make any sense no algorithm in this context makes you ever have your chick's like hey like i'm really hoping to go to dinner and you go no so you don't understand my investment algorithm is not allowing us to go to this Michelin restaurant I actually would love to and I have the money the problem is my algorithm my algorithm's kind of showing this is more of a chick-fil-a thing
Starting point is 00:26:40 if it wasn't for my algorithm I definitely you want me to mess up my algorithm so we can go to this dinner we can do that but like just so you know when we west up my algorithm this is going to be like really bad for really bad and you can't undo it that's another big part of it is you You can't undo what you're going to be digging yourself out of this hole for the next six years. You need to go to a fucking restaurant. Because you want to mess up algorithm, which with money I do have, by the way, I can easily do that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we easily do it. And then here's another one. This was a good one. What's this one? This one is, it's a, so it's like a four and a half minute, four or 15 video. He's just talking to this girl basically saying, so like the start of it is, I guess he's, you know, they've been talking a bunch. And he's just like, yeah, I really like you.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And, you know, I just want to let you know, like, I, you know, like, uh, you know, like, uh, Things are going bad for me right now. And, you know, like, it's kind of, like, bad right now. But, like, you know, the sun kind of always comes out. And, um, you know. By this point, does he completely drop that my parents are Swiss billionaire? I guess. Or maybe this, not everybody got the Swiss billionaire thing.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Okay. Maybe, there could be a thing where, like you said, he was trying all these things out. So someone got the Swiss billionaire thing. And he goes, oh, you know what? That has so many holes in it. That doesn't make sense. It's like a set. It's like a comedy set.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Like, he's literally just iterating. And he goes, that makes it. makes no sense. The private chef when he was having trouble with two, because one of the things, it's not like an insane flex to have a private chef once a week. The once a week per, it's so funny. It's like, I don't know, you probably get that for $400. Yeah, a lot of girls weren't, the private chef stuff wasn't making sense. And also, if you, if you were an athlete, I get the idea of being like, well, I have this chef because he's like my nutritionist, essentially. But he only, but it's only Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah, he pretty bad. on the weekends. Wednesday to Monday, it's bad news. Yeah, it's basically Tuesday and leftovers on Wednesday. Leftovers on Wednesday. And then basically I'm just eating
Starting point is 00:28:34 McDonald's, but I'm hoping to get the private chef, but the last girl screwed up my algorithm, so I can't afford it. So if you keep screwing on my algorithm, I don't even be held my chef on Tuesdays. I've never gotten the private chef, by the way. I guess if you have like a house that's an estate, but like you have to have such an enormous
Starting point is 00:28:53 house. Like, that to me would be, would you ever want someone to come to your house and cook you food? I would hate that. Maybe. Like, okay, let's say you're not, like, you live in a two-bedroom condo. Yeah. But what if you lived in, like, a... Well, the thing is a private chef, they're not, they don't, like, live there.
Starting point is 00:29:11 They just, they come, they cook, and then what do you do? You, like, sit in the other room while they're making food in your kitchen? Yeah, they just come, they cook and they leave. And they just, they basically just, well, they just bring the food. Why don't I have to cook in here? Well, that's, uh, factor.com, slash the boycast. That's what I'm saying. If you're like, oh, he makes these amazing meals, it's like, okay, just make it and then bring it over.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Right. You go put it on a tray and then bring it over 50 minutes. Why do I need you in my kitchen preparing it for two and a half hours? Well, your average person. And then he's doing dishes in your kitchen? Yeah, your average person who has a private chef is loaded. They might have more than one kitchen in their house. Like they have like a giant house.
Starting point is 00:29:45 That's what I'm saying. Your house just has to be so big where you're like this. Apartment private chef is crazy. Apartment private chef is a crazy, crazy thing. I don't even have room in my fridge Even if the chef was like Here's all the stuff I go I don't have anywhere to put this Does anyone have a beach house
Starting point is 00:30:00 That's five times the price of their normal house Not five times but 2.5 Like does anyone have Hey yeah my house is $4 million In a major city by the way Which stuff's more expensive And then I have
Starting point is 00:30:13 You know outside the city on the lake I have these Or on the ocean I have these 10.5 million dollar properties Probably not I mean, I can't imagine. You see some people like Muscoca or the Hamptons who have these insane places. You've been to a few New York places that they're crazy rich.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You go, I've been to some places like in downtown because this guy's living in San Francisco. I've been to the equivalent of those places where you'll go to like a rich crypto guy's house or whatever. And it will be the equivalent of like the house that I grew up in that costed $300,000. Right. You know what I mean? $20 million. Yeah, like the house that I grew up in that probably cost like $2.80 at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Which is, and you go, and honestly, maybe even smaller than that. And you go, this was like $18 million minimum. Yeah. And honestly, I think I just low-balled there as it. I think it might have been more like 35 or something like that. Yeah. And you go this place where, like, in Ajax, Ontario, this place was, and in Canadian. This place was, you know, 250 Canadian.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe sometimes. I doubt anybody has, like, that disparity where their main home is a quarter of the value their beach house or whatever, I don't think so. Exactly, right? In the city. In the city. The closest thing would be someone's like, no, I live on my beach house most of the year
Starting point is 00:31:30 and I have a, like, a Pietatera kind of in the city that I come to. Okay, yeah. But he doesn't because he lives in San Francisco because he's playing for the 49ers. Correct. Well, or, yeah, in this instance he has. But anyways, yeah, this is the video. You always do with something. But sometimes the dark do last a while,
Starting point is 00:31:47 but the sun will come out regardless. So I just wanted to say, thank you. That's what the whole purpose for this video. was, was just to say, thank you. I appreciate you. I love you. I wouldn't be able to be in the position I'm in right now without your ass. And, you know, I definitely appreciate you.
Starting point is 00:32:05 The last thing is that 3K. So I've got to come up with that shit, a sap. And it got to be cash or Apple Pay or cash, whatever. It can't be credit card. So it's like this long, like sappy video. It sounded like he was thanking her for sending her. spending money. No, no, he's thanking her for just being her. Okay. Basically, just like, you know, you're really like, you know, it's a tough time and, uh, you know, it's just like you're, you're,
Starting point is 00:32:31 you're really like a good person and we really have a good connection. And he was saying, like, I don't really have a lot of friends. Uh, he's like, you know, I have like people who I'm like friendly with, but like real friends, but like, you know, you're, you're like, I feel like, you know, they've never met at this point. Or they have? I don't know. That, that's the one thing I can never get, like, figure out is, like, how many times have these people met or were these purely digital? I can't imagine women would be ponying up a bunch of money if they haven't met in person. I think they did, like, some of them met. Okay, let's find that out. Boys, let's talk quince for a second. You know those pieces in your closet you find yourself wearing on repeat,
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Starting point is 00:37:20 Yes, he actually met the women in person. This wasn't purely online Roman scam. So he did meet some of the women. Yeah. I just want to say that oh, so he I keep starting my act out, but then getting more
Starting point is 00:37:34 information. He allegedly called himself John Prince and said, he was the Swiss real estate developer. So a lot of the women that he went on dates with, he actually was pitching the whole thing. So for sure, he banged some of these girls. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:46 He was getting it in. But yeah, it is funny saying, yeah, I just need you more than anything. I appreciate you. We are going to need that 3K coming at me pretty quick. Yeah. Which? My helmet.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Do you think the 49ers helmets are cheap? Uh, you get him for $500 in a memorabilia store. I can't imagine them much more than that. The thing is, they were probably... Imagine if she sent him a link for a cheaper helmet. That wouldn't work. would think they're probably like not the game issue ones either they're they're like the collectible one no he's lying to them obviously yeah yeah but i'm saying he didn't buy the actual element
Starting point is 00:38:16 yeah i do i would think they're the ones you get autographed that it's like yeah you can't use this in a game that's funny he has an autograph on that's jerry rice autograph helmet yeah but the thing is it's like if you just want to just get chicks like he i don't think this is a crime it's what it's what it's what the crime is not a crime i mean if lyme was a crime I'm like guys. Like if you're trying to get chicked, you can pretend all this stuff. Just don't ask them for, just don't scam them out of money. Well, you know, me and my friends, that used to be like one of the, our favorite things to do is have fake identities at bars.
Starting point is 00:38:49 But it was always girls we were like, I don't think we ever like anyone. And your identities were probably worse than your actual identities. They were worse. That was the joke. Yeah. And to be honest. I'm homeless. But I don't think anyone really ever went through with it because it was like, we would all, it was always like to be funny.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Like, we would go so ridiculous. I remember. Be to entertain yourselves. One of, Yes, yes, that's correct. One of the big ones we would do is we'd pick like, and this is when we were in a band, we'd pick like a, we'd pick like a crappy celebrity to be, like his like manager or something. I remember this isn't that crappy, but we used to always say we were the backup bass player
Starting point is 00:39:24 from Hot Hot Hot Heat. Like a small little Canadian band. We were the backup bass player. And then we used, with stuff like this, we'd be like the guy was the tour, he was the road manager for Stained. Yeah. Like it would all be all these like band of Jason thing. Then we'd always like big it up.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Like and then the other two guys would act like, you know, whatever he wants. He's the celebrity. And they'd be like, it's not a celebrity. He's a backup base player. We'd always, my favorite one,
Starting point is 00:39:50 firefighters. We'd always say firefighters. You know that one. Well, no. Because we yeah, I guess so, but we'd always say we're firefighters.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And then we would always say we work from none of it. We would say we're firefighters and none of it. And then we'd go, I've said this year because it always makes me laugh. but we would go to the group. We'd say we were firefighters in a Cala wheat. And how we would describe it, it always go, yeah, we're firefighters.
Starting point is 00:40:12 We don't work here. We're like 10 months of the year. We work in, you know Calgary? And they go, yeah, we go, three days from there, none of it. And then we go, you go, you live in Nunavon of him. We go, I go, Chris, where am I from? She goes, you know Calgary? Everyone always said you.
Starting point is 00:40:26 There's no reason. It's not even adjacent with it. And then ask him. And then you'd be like, if you don't believe me, ask the third guy. And you'd be like, okay, where is he from? and he goes, you familiar with Calgary? Three days from there.
Starting point is 00:40:38 It was one of the best bits we had going. Oh, that's funny. But there was a lot, it was all that. It was always like picking a really crappy thing. Or then we had two friends that we would always say we were them as like a troll to them. And it was funny because the scam wouldn't even work because like if we ever like did something and they like looked us up and they were like, looked the person up, they would just be like, yeah, no, that was Ryan. Like if I said to a chick, like, I'm Danny Poloshaw. and you're like in a relationship
Starting point is 00:41:06 and then I was like and they end up sleeping with her she looks you up Danny Polshok and message you like hey just so you know someone's saying your name this is what he looks like
Starting point is 00:41:13 and you go and you go you would first question like does you have long hair yeah that's Ryan Long here's his profile like so there's no way we can even get away with it
Starting point is 00:41:20 because anyone we would use could like would rat us out in two seconds so it's like it's literally just to have fun that night yeah just have fun yeah that's fine nothing wrong with that I mean that's at one point
Starting point is 00:41:30 we used to carry brief I mean that's probably somewhere in the in mystery syllabus Buddy, do you remember that one? We used to get briefcases. I never saw you with the briefcases, but I've heard. Was it like mustard in them or something?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Banana. Banana and saltines. So we have this thing where it would be, this would be once a year we would do this, and it was all the boys that we went to high school with. And there'd be like eight of us. And we wear track pants, suit jacket, and a briefcase. And everyone have a briefcase. We'd go to Salvation Army and all by briefcases, right?
Starting point is 00:42:00 And they'd be like really beat up. So you'd have track pants and suit jacket in the briefcase. And then any time a girl, and we'd always say, I can't remember we'd have like different things. One time we said we were like the head office at Wendy's. Like shit like that, right? We all work at head office at Wendy's. And then eventually, if the girls opened up the briefcase,
Starting point is 00:42:16 it was just a banana and saltines and shit. And everyone, he was like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah, but again. Super fun. Fun. And I also think that is an effective strategy to get girls at bars. It was because eventually you drop it and be like,
Starting point is 00:42:30 we're just fucking around. Yeah. Yeah. And then you're like talking to it and they go, Oh, this guy's quirky. No, I'm not a firefighter. Do you want to suck me off? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Like, people are probably, you're right. It's so stupid, but you're like, no, this is actually very effective. Yes, it wasn't for that. It wasn't for that, but you are right.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I'm sure sometimes there was like smashes that happened. And at some point on the way home, you'd be like, yes, obviously I'm not. Like, a mystery watches this podcast. He's just like, oh, that's good. Banana saltines. Belfcase. No, you're so right.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Yeah. You know, a lot of the things that, like, we were doing jokingly, I've kind of, like, when you'll see clips of pickup artists, you're kind of like, yeah, I guess we kind of were already, like, doing that a little bit. But you were, but we're, I mean, to be honest, like, chicks are attracted to dudes that are, like, having fun. Exactly. I think is like, yeah, and they're just like, oh, that seems funny. This person seems funny.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah, this is a group of guys that kind of seems funny. Yeah. And, like, every guys, you know, most guys are like, oh, I can, how do I talk to women? And you go, well, you do these stupid things and they just talk to you. Yeah, it wasn't about, you're right. You're so, I've got to even said that about, like, guys are like, you can get, you can figure out all these. techniques of like being good with girls or just like have a group of friends that are as cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Like you know whenever they show that like they always have this big thing at like the university frats where they have like they say the guys are like gargoy women are gargoyling or whatever. Yeah. Because they have all these like pretty hot chicks that are with like guys that they're saying are gross. And you're like, yeah, because those are the cool guys. Yeah, those are the cool guys. It's like you doesn't matter with the guy. You're like those are the cool guys.
Starting point is 00:43:55 So if you're like and if you're one of those guys, you're like just the women chicks are around and eventually people start pairing up. and it was like, I don't know, do you want to smash? Like, I guess so. I guess, yeah. It works. Are you having problems with the ladies, fellas? Take notes.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah, but so the moral of the story is, um... Do not do this by yourself, by the way. Do not... If you're the, if you're doing the briefcase bit solo? I mean, it's in wedding crash... It's the same as in wedding crashes when he's crashing the funeral solo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, do not show up to a bar and a tracksuit in a briefcase
Starting point is 00:44:27 with a banana and saltines in it and think this is going to be affected. You're right. And first of all, don't be over 30. Like, you know, and don't be over 25, to be honest. We were 19 probably. Yeah, yeah. Like, we were, like, in college. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:40 If you're just, like, getting out of a divorce. 35 solo. Don't do this. Dude, so much stuff gets so much sadder as you get older. Oh, absolutely. I've got to say that about, like, getting pussy in general, get sadder. And one of the reasons it gets sadder is because you either have to keep changing friend
Starting point is 00:44:59 groups because generally, like, most people aren't going to be on that tip. So you have to keep finding new friend groups or you're on solo pussy missions and solo pussy missions the older you are the sadder they are. Correct. Yeah, yeah. Because there's no one even to tell the story too, really.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Yeah. And you might be able to tell it once, but the fifth time your co-workers like, fucking drove four hours into Connecticut for some pig. Everyone's like, Jesus, dude. I remember when I saw this dude in a McDavid jersey chatting up some prostitute in the cosmopolitan.
Starting point is 00:45:30 It's like 55-year-old man and a McDavid jersey because the Oilers were in town, chatting up a prostitute in the cosmopolitan bar. I was like, this is sad. Sucks. Sad. Yeah, just like kind of negotiating with her. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Well, this is what happens. You end up being an actual scammer, I think. It's because you start getting in the game because it's fun. And then as people drop off, it becomes a little more like, you're like, well, I guess I'm not like doing this for fun because I'm solo. So I guess I'm trying to smash. And then you're like, maybe I could stay at her house for a while. I think I'm like a scam guy now.
Starting point is 00:46:04 And that's the thing. This guy, like Dejan Love or whatever, he, you know, part of his scam was that he had this expensive lifestyle. So he almost, he's stuck on this hamster. We're on the hamster wheel. We're like needing the scam to maintain the lifestyle that is needed to do the scams. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:46:19 And now before you know your enemies are after you, the enemies are the IRS. Yeah, they probably will love this guy in jail, though. Yeah, I think he's going to have a good time in jail. You think people like in terms of, everybody's gonna be like that's so funny he's not like a fucking sex offender or anything he's just funny scammer and they all have phones so they're all seeing all this shit
Starting point is 00:46:39 everyone wants a picture with him yeah he's gonna be like a real celebrity right now yeah you might be right I don't really know I would think so I could go I think you're probably not some pariah in jail for sure but maybe there's a 20% chance that depends on what jail
Starting point is 00:46:55 maybe goes to the wrong jail where they're just like yeah you're our bitch now I don't know I mean normally that's for sex offenders Okay. Yeah, I don't think so. Okay, I'm going to read some text messages. This is the kind of text message he's saying. The woman says, good morning.
Starting point is 00:47:08 He says, good morning, babe. How'd you sleep, love? He says, slept okay. What about you? Why only okay? I just needed more sleep, that's all. Sorry to hear that. And by the way, there's something gross about like adults flirting in this manner.
Starting point is 00:47:21 You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. We need to meet. And then he says, we need to meet. I'm going to talk to my financial advisor about your situation to see how we're going to make it better, especially if we have intentions on having children, which I'm very serious about. She goes, yes, sir, I get back for my business trip on the 12th. I work every day before then. You really don't have to do that. That's too kind of you. I'm down to have this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And then he says, I will for sure. I do want you to think further in what I told you earlier about the investing. It doesn't have to be now or soon, but you got to understand this is life-changing stuff. Not a little life-changing stuff. It is major life-changing stuff. And would never suggest... A thousand bucks, by the way. A thousand bucks, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:04 This is... We're talking, I'm going to turn your thousand bucks into a million. Yeah. And I would never suggest or tell you as my future wife and child's mother to do something that wouldn't work. That's setting myself up for failure. You've got to trust me and follow my lead because I absolutely want the best for you.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Because then that puts our kids in a good situation. and you. Well, aren't you rich in the NFL and Swiss air? Why is it so important that I turned my 1,000 into four? Yeah, exactly. Why is it so important for our
Starting point is 00:48:36 future security for me to give you this thousand that you could spin up? I don't. Yeah, aren't you rich in the NFL? Don't you have, you just told me you have three $10 million properties and you go, but also like the fate of our future rests on turning my thousand into five.
Starting point is 00:48:53 So this is pretty, you know, Wild, right? Pretty blatant stuff, yeah. And then on top, so she goes, I hear you, babe. I just need to get to know you better and be certain I'm not being scammed before I never move my money around. I've been scammed over far too many times to be comfortable doing that right now.
Starting point is 00:49:11 I have to trust you, and that takes time. He goes, scammed over 1K when I'm rich. I can literally FaceTime a three-way call with you and my advisor right now. And this is... Who's it? 16. So he sets up these... 16 year old Asian boy.
Starting point is 00:49:26 You guys a bib on. Like that's selling it. Imagine you're like on the fence and then you're three-way Zoom with his child. But the whole thing is so funny because it's exactly what you just said where he goes, why would I scam you when I'm rich?
Starting point is 00:49:42 And it's like, okay, then why do you need that? Why are you pressing me for this thousand dollars so badly? Like our whole future hinges upon me giving you this G. Right. Well again, and I'm sure to many women's credits, they probably were like, this guy, something's off.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And then, but some women just probably looked past all this stuff. You need one in a hundred. Yeah, he got some. Yeah. This was also, it was harder back in the internet. You know, I told you my, back in the day, these guys had to,
Starting point is 00:50:12 you know what? I take it, hmm, okay, here's a good question because I can. Is it harder an hour before? Yeah, what do you think? I mean, the ease of committing the crimes is probably easier now with everything like digitized. the day you had to get someone to like go to a bank get a you know like a cashier's check got to be easier
Starting point is 00:50:30 there was there was so much more friction involved i mean you've seen stuff now where someone goes to like some senior goes to a bank and is like hey i need you to empty my account put in a cashier's check and the teller is like this is weird and then they start asking questions and they're like oh you're getting scammed kind of thing now you can kind of just do it digitally uh i think it was harder to scam back in the day, but easier to get away with. Yeah, that's probably true. Because before, you'd scam some woman, say you were on the 49ers, and then you would move to the next town.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Right, and it was exactly. And, you know, pretty... Never to be seen again. Nobody's ever going to find you. And yeah, yeah. So it would have definitely been easier to get away with it, for sure in the past. Yeah, so it's a toss-up. I was kind of thinking in general, like...
Starting point is 00:51:18 That's the thing is, like, scams like this have a... zero percent chance you're going to get away with this. Yeah. Like it will eventually 100% of the time you were going to jail for a scam like this. Like guaranteed. Yeah, this isn't a Ponzi. Well, no, I'll back it up. If you did this five times.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yes. If you're doing this all the time for two years, yeah, you're getting busted. But again, nobody ever does that. They go, oh, this shit works. Why don't I keep it? Of course not. But yeah, yeah, you can definitely do this a few times. No problem.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And it would be fine. But then what, if you do it a few times, you're like, what? I like risk going to jail for three grand. For five, exactly. But yeah, it's a guarantee you go to jail for this. And again, it's not a Ponzi scheme. It's not like you're like, oh, you're paying them out so they think they're making money and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:00 It's straight. Take their money, never talk to them again. Yeah, you just take their money and ghost them. And you still have the same profile. Insane. I was kind of thinking like just in the concept of like how hard it would be to, like the scams back in the day if you wanted to do this. You do have to go out in public, find the girl.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Like you said, take her to the bank. And I was kind of thinking it's the same as, you know how we cover a lot of stories where there'll be a woman who's older that'll post this thing being like, I just got divorced and after 15 years of marriage. And now I'm having sex with 18 year old men and here's my story. And then I'm writing articles about like the guys that fucked me. Yeah. Like when we were growing up, like you didn't have to worry that your grandmother was going to have like a blog about getting dick, right? And if you think about like the procedure a woman would have to go through before if she wanted to do that, She'd have to, the woman gets divorced.
Starting point is 00:52:52 She's out at the bars taking the dick. Yeah, she's a classic cougar. And then she would have to write a manuscript and then walk into like, you know, random house. Random house and be like, hey, try to, you'd have to try to get it. First you'd have to get the meeting at random house. So you'd try to like find a guy who can get you a meeting being like, I have this idea for a book about me taking dick.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And then you would have to like 70 years old, walk in, sit down with the meeting. And then there's like three guys there, be men. and you know madmen style and she was like okay so what's your idea for your book you're like well it's about me taking dick and then all three guys are like ugh good lord no that that was something to my office self-public it was like probably back in the day this was self-published it came on just photocopies like it was just like a photocopied copy stapled photocopies and you sold them in like a classified out in the back of some weird magazine yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and only and there's five women doing it yeah at most so you know what scammer
Starting point is 00:53:48 we've never talked about because there's there is a lot of these guys but one thing we've never Jerome Powell yeah Jason our day we never really went to a story I saw a lot of people being like why won't you guys cover this?
Starting point is 00:54:05 I think what happened was I think it was the week that we had the pastor yeah we were off because we were off yeah yeah I think so yeah this whole thing is was pretty the aftermath of this where they're like this was a digital lynching was insane. And so what happened was for people who don't know. And I think we, I remember we talked
Starting point is 00:54:26 about this guy in the past, but we never really went too into deep in it. But since we're in this, we're doing an episode about scams or half an episode about scams, this felt relevant to talk about again. Because some of his lies were so crazy. He was like a classic case where tons of plagiarizing other. Tons of plagiarizing black college guy in the UK, getting every, kind of like Elizabeth Holmes where he's getting every article written about how great he is. is he's publishing lie after lie after lie. He has all these fake hate crime stories and no one's questioning anyone. If anyone questions anything, they get, uh, you know, they get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah. They get in super trouble. I have friends that I've, we all know people where they go, um, where you're like, it's not one of these guys. There's a hundred of these guys. Correct. In journalism. We know 50 in comedy.
Starting point is 00:55:10 There's 50 in entertainment. And I've always said what happens when you put someone in it, when you big someone up to a position that they don't deserve what happens? Well, they cheat because that's the only way to keep it. Of course. If you put me in the, fucking, you know, NFL. You go, what the, and you go...
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah, the only way to keep it is... I mean, I wouldn't even help to take steroids, but first step would it be IBM on... You cheat, because the only thing you can do. Yeah, exactly. You give someone a job at S&L and they're not actually that funny. It's like, what do they do? They start stealing sketches. Like, you know, happens. Yeah, they just start going on Twitter and stealing shit.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Right, because that's the only... Because they're not... Yeah. Well, you go, this person's not there. They go, this is like a super high level to be able to, like, come up with comedy at that level at that pace. And you go, I'm not even... close to there, so I cheat.
Starting point is 00:55:52 That's the only way are you going to do. Correct. And that's university professors. You go, these people are smarter than me. I shouldn't be here. It's like, well, I'm stealing then. Yeah, and everybody's patting you on the back the whole time. The whole time.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Weird reinforcement loop where I was like, oh my God, you're amazing. I should cheat more. Yes, and yes, you have this weird reinforcement loop where you'll be calling a genius and, you know. Yeah, you've got to keep it going. But then there was like a whistleblower at the school that basically came out and was like, gay, this is some bullshit. Uh-huh. Got fired, probably.
Starting point is 00:56:20 for whistleblowing. That guy's in trouble. I think it was a guy that was already fired that was the original whistleblower, but yeah, he had a bone to pick. Yeah, yeah. But there were people that were like
Starting point is 00:56:29 in trouble in different cases. And it's funny because some people have been bringing this up where they go, well, when you're in university, they have protections as a professor, right? And the original reason
Starting point is 00:56:41 for the protections was some guy that was like trying to talk about like, you know, why immigration's bad and stuff that was getting called white supremacy. So the original purpose of, Yeah, but the original, but a lot of times the original purpose was something else, but they're like, that's not what it's there for. And you go, in this case, you go, that actually is exactly why it's there from the start. But some of the lies is he said, and this is one I remember covering on the podcast, they go, a severed pig's head. He said someone put a severed pig's head. Don Corleone got to him.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Right. And if you remember, when it happened at the time, they basically, the cops went to the, there's only like three places to sell pigs heads in like the 300 mile radius. And they go in the last. week they'd only sold one pig's head and if they sold the if it had been longer than that the pigs head wouldn't have whatever blah blah unless this guy had like you know the but they're like they're like only like one or two places and they knew the person there was no pigs head purchased right and then they're like where's the pig's head he's like I disposed of it right like all this sort of stuff and then the next one um he said he was attacked twice inside Cambridge by a masked man so he's at Cambridge University and then a guy with a mask comes and attacks him and then he didn't tell anyone and just went back to work twice.
Starting point is 00:57:52 This is Brexit country. And it... This guy's Somolette to the Max. Yeah. Pathological wire. He said he ran... He was talking about how he ran marathons. And he said he ran 600 miles in six days.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He did six marathons in six days. It's way more than six marathons. That's 30 marathons or something. He said he raised $5 million for charity, 30 marathons and 35 days. And then he also said he didn't speak till he was 11 or write until he was 18. He said he couldn't write until he was 18. And basically, I don't write until he was 18.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And basically, every goodwill hunting scenario. But it just, you know, there's these scenarios where we all know of these people where you go that guy's all a liar and you, dude, there's so many people that were in like the left wing journalism world where every person knows this person
Starting point is 00:58:32 is just like a pathological liar, but. Yeah, insane. They're in the worlds where they keep getting propped. And then basically the guy gets busted and kills himself. Yeah. And then they're saying which makes it sad. Sad, I suppose. But then everybody's saying you know, all this negativity around him
Starting point is 00:58:47 getting busted was what caused him to kill himself and people should reflect on how they treat people like this, I guess. Well, there's, it's kind of true that, you know, online lynchings are fucking terrible. I mean, look, if you do these things, you're like, like, if Dayshundle
Starting point is 00:59:03 goes and kills himself, it's not an online lynching because he's getting cloud nonstop. Right. No, I agree with you. And what I'm saying is you would put the blame on the people that put this person in this situation. You know, if you put someone in the people that are like prop this up to get to this far, because
Starting point is 00:59:19 he wouldn't have killed himself if he wrote his first checks and balances whatsoever in your institution nobody ever read any of his work or looked into any of this stuff at all ever right so when you when you set up a scenario that like rewards people to build themselves into this like insane web of lies that like once it unravels their entire life falls apart i mean you know i think the you should take some accountability on that i don't think they were bad i don't think there would be much accountability fellas, things in your life can get hectic, but one thing that does not need to get hectic is getting back to eating real food and factor makes that easier than ever, especially when you're on the go with stuff you got to do in your real life.
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Starting point is 01:02:18 today, or maybe yesterday or something, this woman, like one of the sleuths, got arrested for intimidating the jurors. Another sleuth got intimidated. A sleuth. So that's not the first sleuth to be arrested, by the way. No, no, no, so one of the sleuths, I did not see this. One of the online sleuths got arrested for intimidating jurors because she was filming the jurors in like a restricted area as they were coming out. And she's facing like 20 years in jail for, for, like, mafia shit. It's a intimidation. It's really serious. So, uh, and she came out of the courthouse after her raiment. I think this morning, all laughing and people are, and the, this was the craziest tell to me is someone who is like,
Starting point is 01:02:58 how does it feel to be famous? Like she had this big like press scrum around her and someone goes, how does it feel to be famous? And she was like grinning like ear to ear like she loved it. Like she would like she inserted herself in this thing and now she was famous, which was telling that like she wanted to just like she's loving the fame. You're like, You're facing, you're like an old lady. Like she's probably 60s. You're like, you're facing the rest of your life in jail over this, over just like this stupid thing. And she's like sweet.
Starting point is 01:03:25 She's love, yeah, she's like loving it. She got wrapped up in a tizzy is what happened. Kind of, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's the female version of going to January 6th and getting carried away. That is, this is the female J-sex, kind of. So, but they're deadlocked right now. Yeah. Which means if they can't figure it a verdict, but everyone's making jokes where it's like,
Starting point is 01:03:45 the two guys on the trial, it's basically the two guys on the trial trying to explain to the woman. Someone said a funny joke that they go, the guy on the jury just needs to explain the, to the women why killing your kids is bad? No, it needs to explain to the woman, just start talking about how Lindsay Clancy is so much hotter than them. Oh. So they can, so they can look at her with the rational eyes now. Yeah. Yeah, but they're deadlocked between obviously not guilty or innocent. It's just guilty.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yeah, or insanity. They're just trying to decide how insane she is. Which is not so, I guess it's not so crazy, you know. No, no, it's not that crazy. Yeah, it's not that crazy. It's not that's not that crazy. I know what you mean. Like, it's not, there's a case to be made that this certainly a case to be nuts. That you have to be nuts to kill all your kids.
Starting point is 01:04:28 I'm sure there's, there's been either precedent of cases where they're similar. What happened to the chick who, Susan something, Susan Smith? Uh, from the 90s who, who put her kids in the car. I think her name was Susan Smith. And she, uh, she put her two kids in a car and then she just let took the put it in neutral and it just backed into a pond remember her yeah i do that's like the classic what did what i'm trying to see what about her though well i'm trying to see what happened with her if uh if what her sentence was
Starting point is 01:05:02 oh no she she got the they gave death penalty and then the sentence was to two concurrent life terms of prison for the murders so she didn't get she tried to get uh all sorts of of craziness, crazy excuse and didn't work. They have to go in there looking real crazy. Like, you have to go in there, like, you have to go in there, like, yeah. But the thing is, I think you can't really fake it. Like, uh, I think it's really hard to fake.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Yeah. Like, they know. They know. You would have to be, like, uh, usual suspects almost to really fake it. You'd have to know that so well. Well, if you look at the, like, if you just are like waiting, you know, watching the trial. you shit in your hand and eat it. They're not like, oh, right, you must be nuts. Case adjourned.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Like, it's not so simple. Then you ate the shit for nothing. Well, it was worth a try. Yeah, I think you got to really play it up. Yeah. But again, I don't think they're just, you're just like, yeah, oh, fucking nut job over here. You have to go on this day and take a glass of water, flash it on your face. Excuse me, could I have a Coca-Cola and then you just pour it on your head? Or get shoes on your hands. Shoes on your hands. Just really.
Starting point is 01:06:21 All clothes are on improperly inside out. You know, your fucking head's coming through like the armhole. Why? That's you showing up to trial. I'm loco, essay. I plead loco. Pretty loco. Do you think any Mexican guys have ever pleaded loco?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Probably. But if you have like a, if you have like a cartel lawyer, you know what I mean? He comes in, he goes, Your Honor, my client is fucking loo.
Starting point is 01:06:57 You go to the jury, do not think she's local? I think you have to get a cartel lawyer. I think so. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, do not think she's fucking local? Yeah, like a Hispanic better call Saul kind of deal. Oh, she's fucking loco.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Cuckoo! Yeah, so What was the other person who got arrested? Who was the other one that got arrested? What do you mean? In the Lindsay Clancy, you said someone else for jury tampering or something? Some other sleuth? Did you say some other?
Starting point is 01:07:23 No, no, no, no, no, no. That was in the trial that we covered a while ago. Oh, okay. That was Idaho murderers. Right, right, right. And then that was the sleuth that got banned from using astrology. Right. But I was kind of thinking, if you look at a lot of this stuff
Starting point is 01:07:39 with the women online that have sort of gone go loco imagine the judge comes in a final journey and he goes actually I've decided that I'm she's not crazy but I am putting a judgment on all the supporters that they're crazy and they get jail time I mean I thought the woman who got shot
Starting point is 01:07:59 like two blocks from here on Monday you know the woman with the knives the big torta yeah see her the torta yeah I was saying she looks like the woman for my video that the one where I'm talking to the woman on this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How to break a man?
Starting point is 01:08:12 How to break a man. Hey, man, it'll be maybe Mom Dany 2.0. Maybe it is her. If that's how to break it, man. Oh, my God. If that's how to break a man, that's crazy. But she was wearing pink and I go, is this a Lindsay Clancy supporter? Is this a Lindsay, because she was wearing a pink shirt?
Starting point is 01:08:23 I was this fucking Clancy. What was that? I was right here, man. It was crazy. Like I was... Because I've seen her picture everywhere. What happened? So I was walking to the studio, I was walking to the studio right when it was happening two blocks
Starting point is 01:08:32 away. And so she was in Times Square. and she stabbed two people she had like these two knives she just but she's like this fat old lady like short but anyway she just randomly stabbed two people oh she stabbed two people she stabbed two people killed one of them this woman and uh
Starting point is 01:08:50 this old man who and were they random people just two random people she just stabbed two people and the cops all show up and uh cops all show up they're surrounding her just telling her and she's holding two knives like this she looks like Britney Spears yeah yeah yeah she's just like holding two knives and then they're like dropped the knives she wouldn't do it they tased her
Starting point is 01:09:08 but because she was so fat the taser doesn't work like literally because I was like why didn't the taser work and that's the explanation is if you are like so fat they just get lodged in the fat the prongs so they start tasering her someone's like taser start tasering her
Starting point is 01:09:23 and nothing's happening because she's so fat and then she starts walking towards his cop and he just kills her just shoots her twice and kills her but dude the commotion here like there was so many cops just like ripping up the street I saw cops in a golf cart, like NYPD golf cart, which I'd never seen before.
Starting point is 01:09:39 The guy's ripping, he's on the road, a dude in a suit, it must have been like a detective or something, and another cop in the passenger seat in this like souped up golf, NYPD golf cart, ripping up the street, and then he like crossed over into the bike lane, almost like rolled the thing. It was up on three wheels at one point. And they were just like speeding over there. There's so many, like nonstop cops coming by. Wild. Yeah, it was crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:03 so she could play the low she didn't die she could play the local she probably i mean a lot of people like her i think her mother was just like her husband were like i've never seen her do you have to be Spanish to plead the loco yes yeah yeah or maybe not maybe it's even more loco if you're not Spanish
Starting point is 01:10:19 right i'm so local i'm Spanish local yeah i'm Spanish logo yeah i'm not even Spanish logo I've never even been in Mexico I love do not think I'm local the the jury coming on on that yeah the um but there's
Starting point is 01:10:32 there's sort of epidemic that started on TikTok and everything. Because there used to be a time when like, if you think of your average college kid opinion, which was sort of, you know, what's the craziest solutions to everything. And then, which would always be the case,
Starting point is 01:10:51 they would always exist, but we would sort of write them off, right? It was sort of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're young and that's not unreasonable for you to think that. Yeah, you go to, and you're supposed to, you go to school, you try to tackle the hardest, problems in the world and after four months you're like oh I solved them right and everyone's like oh good for you yeah you're learning but then then it's sort of switched where we started listening to them and combined with all the therapy language it's essentially created a scenario where in the
Starting point is 01:11:15 world there's sort of you all you always have empathy for the other person so you're basically always empathizing with the inconvenience or not the inconvenienced do you know what I mean yeah so it's like in every scenario so for I'll give you a bunch of examples so one example would be if you called someone. I mean, it's literally headphone dodging as people, it's the, that's the first one. The headphone dodging article and people are like, maybe they're just trying to turn us onto some hip music. You're empathizing with the inconvenience or not the inconvenience.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Another one that in the headphone dodging territory would be like 600 pound woman sits beside you on the plane. Right. You're empathizing with, because you'll say things like, you know, people will be like, that sucks. You go, well, imagine how much it sucks for her. Like she has to do this. And you go, well, okay.
Starting point is 01:12:00 But first of all, I'm not her. and she's the one that's inconveniencing me. Yes. If you call another one would be like you call customer service and you get someone that doesn't speak English, right? And you were complaining, you'd be like, and you'll have people being like, well, you know, oh, you want him to speak English.
Starting point is 01:12:16 You know, think about what his life is. He had to move here and had to learn a new language and you go, okay, but there is a status quo and then someone is inconveniencing that. Yeah, it's not unreasonable to be like, yeah, in an English-speaking country, I'd like to speak to someone who speaks English. Right, so they've sort of created a scenario
Starting point is 01:12:31 where the default is to take the position of the inconvenience or not the convenience. Yeah, it's just like empathy. Just constant empathy with no guardrails almost. I like the word inconvenience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Empathy for the inconvenience or.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Empathy for the inconvenience. But the reality is it's even crazier because if you think about it, in your normal life, everyone, including those people, would know that taking empathy for the inconvenience or not that they're inconvenienced is an asshole move. So in your normal life, imagine your chick came home and she was like, oh, it's fucking annoying. I had to take the long road home because they're doing
Starting point is 01:13:12 construction and they fucking wouldn't let me buy. And you go, well, imagine their scenario. They're trying to fix this road. Yeah, they're trying to fix these potholes. And you keep trying to you're bothering them and trying to go through the thing. Imagine what they're going through. Like, any person would be like, are you yeah, are you psychotic? Are you psychotic?
Starting point is 01:13:28 Yeah, what are you talking about? Right, so in any other normal scenario, if you remove their special topics. It's like individual versus like a more like macro. It's just like when it's on the individual almost, they don't. They're yeah, yeah, yeah. They understand the principles in their own life. Right. But as soon as it's outside of their own life, so they're naturalness. Yeah, as long as it's a group, you go, let the group inconvenience you. Yes. But in their normal
Starting point is 01:13:50 life, anytime someone was inconvenienced, if they go, oh, my boss made me work late and you said, well, I mean, your boss has a lot on its plate and sometimes you're going to need, like, in any normal scenario, if you took the side of the inconvenience or to you, oh, the guy at my workplace won't stop chatting and you go, well, you know, sometimes you try. Yeah, like sometimes I'll do it to be a shithead with my own. But you know, you're being a shithead.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Correct. And they think you're being the shithead. Yeah, well, and I am. But I'm saying, and they think you're being a shithead when you're doing it. And then if the roles are reversed in the scenario where they're talking about like, well, what about this person? They can't speak English. What do you think they're, they think you're still being the shit head. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:29 can't win. Can't win. Well, I just don't want to look at a fucking reggae tone on the goddamn subway. So in both scenarios, if I do it, yeah, you're a shithead. If you don't do it, your shithead. Damn it if you do. But they're wrong both times. Yeah, their entire framework for the world is... Well, no, the wrong one time because the one time you're being a shited, you actually are.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah. They're not consistent. So therapy language is just justified how they being an asshole. Like, if you think about someone saying, I mean, you know therapy stuff where there is therapist that, like your wife's not like that, where she's a fucking, called bullshit. Like, you know what I mean? It's like, let's actually solve problems.
Starting point is 01:15:05 But the online therapy of like, I'm setting boundaries. You know what that means? I'm not helping. Yes, correct. Like, that means someone called you for like, help. Like, hey, I need this thing and you go,
Starting point is 01:15:16 can't, no, click. Correct. You're like, hey, I'm setting boundaries. It's like, you made a huge mess in the kitchen. I want to make something. If you clean up and it's like, I'm setting boundaries right now.
Starting point is 01:15:25 And no. You're just being an asshole. Yeah. So everyone knows. Setting boundaries is a way for them to justify me saying no. Yes, I don't say no enough. Which I almost respect on some of these micro levels,
Starting point is 01:15:39 I almost respect like a creative corporate way to tell people to be mean. Right. Yeah. But it's leaked out to the point where at some point someone has to be like, okay, but that is what you're doing here. Uh-huh. Yeah. And it's not beneficial.
Starting point is 01:15:54 It's not you, it's me. You know what I mean? Yeah. I figured out a creative way to be like. And this is making everything worse. like everybody is actually being made worse by this. Everything's being made worse by it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:05 And by the way, on the race stuff, I always kind of think about this. Because one of the things that bothers me is I consider myself a very reasonable person when it comes to everything. So if someone's accusing me of, for example, being like a racist, I'm like, I'm not, though. You know, so if I go to like Mississauga and you go, every single person speaks Punjabi now. Yes. And then you're like complaining about that. And you're like, there's like a. Not even complaining.
Starting point is 01:16:31 You just go, hey, you're crazy, right? Everybody speaks. And there's sort of an attitude of like that's being racist. And you go, no, because if it was every, if I went back to my hometown and everyone spoke Russian now, I'd also think this is annoying. Yeah, yeah, you just be like, yeah, that's weird. I went every single place I went and did someone smoke Russian. So it's actually not. Yes.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Yeah, these are the rules. But wouldn't like that either. Trust me. You wouldn't want to live around all these Russians. Already? I don't want, you're like, who the fuck wants to live in a place for knowing? speaks, you can't speak to anyone. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Like, how do I, how does that even need to be justified? They're just like, soon you'll learn the language. Soon enough. Try, uh, try hard enough. You'll learn. So that's how it gets to the, you send me this. And there was a LA councilwoman, shoots down sex huts for the homeless. Now, this is the, this is shoot them now.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I think she proposed them. I think it got shot down. I think she's, the councilwoman said no. Oh, okay. So you sent me this. And one of the reasons why I was hesitant to cover it is because, is because, sometimes people will something will kind of go viral
Starting point is 01:17:34 and then you look into it and you go well this is like a lady that came into the council she is involved with you know active with her ideas and activism and stuff like that but this isn't like a council yeah this isn't like a city this is just some person
Starting point is 01:17:49 so I want to treat it as such it's like but how you get there is being so empathetic for the inconvenienced that you end up a situation where you're saying like, well, the homeless people are coming on the subway and jacking off. And it was like, well, we need to set up, make it easier for them to jack off. Like that's the fucking twist that it gets to you.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Yeah, yeah, because they need to jack off. We've, we all agree on that, correct? They need to do it. They're just, they're doing it in the wrong place. So we just got to get the right place. You're just building retard bricks on retard bricks until you get to the point where you're building a fucking booth for, by the way, the booth would, you're like, how we built this, you know, four by four booth in Times Square. You go, how much it would cost? Eight million dollars. They actually have in, I think, like, Harold Square area. I walked by one the other day,
Starting point is 01:18:39 and they have one of those, those like European-style portable toilets, you know what I'm talking about, where they're, first off, they're free, which is crazy. It's a porta-potty. It's not a port-a-potty. Dude, this thing must, I bet you this thing, the final bill for this thing, millions. It's this giant steel metal thing. Every, time you use it, once you close the door, you press a button and it cleans itself every single time. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:19:07 It has all these, like, washers inside, like these, like, it's actually kind of sick. Yeah, yeah, they have them in Europe. I guess, you know, they're, like, because it is notoriously New York City, people are like, fuck, I get to piss and it's hard. But if there's, like, shit everywhere, it just kind of like swishes this shit around. Like, how does it actually clean it? It just pressure washes it,
Starting point is 01:19:23 and there's probably like a gray and so, it's clean every time, but you're like, okay, so that's awesome. But also, it's awesome, but also just like, every time you open there's a homeless guy sleeping in there because it's free so it's just a home. I need to turn the brush or wash your home. Let me fix that.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Clean mode. I just go, oh, you know, I don't like them up. Yeah, I don't like them up. But, you know, one of those things, you go, this is, yeah, it's a cool idea. Going to get abused. That's insane about it.
Starting point is 01:19:49 It's a cool idea, but now it's just a home for someone. Yeah, not just a home for someone. But I always wonder with these people who are. When you open it up, if you open it up, is the homeless guy, like, sitting on it with a newspaper? I wouldn't even, have the balls to open it up just because I know something is going to be in there that will shock
Starting point is 01:20:04 me doing drugs something yeah I doing drugs or whatever like you guys fucking yeah like that's why they had to join Europe in a weird way has we're looking for a third has figured out the public toilet thing because they're not free they're not expensive even a quarter it's yeah like a quarter it's like the shopping cards yeah yeah about the money it's not about the money it's just some a reminder some friction like I think it was in Rome I went to go use a public toilet and it was He's 25 cents. A toilet tour. 25 cents and there's just a person collecting
Starting point is 01:20:33 20 to just go. Would you consider doing that doing like a urine and you're a toilet influencer where you just go like. I got like a fucking sick mowing sponsorship. You just go like town to town like chesting up the public toilets. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:46 I mean I think someone made an app for New York about like a public. And then you got arrested because you're always filming in the bathroom. There is like I think New York City someone made an app like a public toilet finder. That's the from the sidewalk. I mean it's literally just Starbucks. Oh, it's all Starbucks No, it's not all Starbucks But I'm saying
Starting point is 01:21:02 If you live in New York City And you use a toilet You should go to Starbucks Well, you had your scam Where you pretend you're going to the hotel Hotel's great Yeah, yeah Hotel if you're not
Starting point is 01:21:10 Like if you don't look disgusting That's another one actually You're just going to my room at the hotel I actually do that move All the time Where this is Danny While you're in the fucking toilet Just fucking letting a rip
Starting point is 01:21:19 Hotel Motel Holiday And You have the music That is actually If you don't look decrep it that is a huge life hack if you're ever somewhere and you need a hotel uh need a toilet just walk in a hotel yeah so and you can shit in luxury so we think this is a bad idea
Starting point is 01:21:40 uh yeah not a great not a great idea no california does like to spend money money what do they spend 10 trillion dollars on their fucking rail train that's going it's like just laid a mile of track or something they they've been they've got so many of these projects that you're just like if a normal if any company did this project you'd be like the CEO would be fired everyone to be cleaning house. Dude, remember, what was it the, uh, the,
Starting point is 01:22:01 on St. Clair, I think it was St. Clair or, oh, no, the Egglington light rail. Like, they, they,
Starting point is 01:22:07 they were building that before I moved to Toronto. So, like, I moved there in 2009 or something. They had just broken the ground before, I think before I moved there, and they, like, finished it, like,
Starting point is 01:22:18 three months ago. Well, you know what? I was going to talk about something else. Let's, let's move ahead for a second. Because, you know, while you're on the topic of Canada, let's hear your thoughts on,
Starting point is 01:22:27 uh, like America I'm not not falling for this trip thank you if I can give any advice to quote libs of TikTok oh my god this is so fucking epic
Starting point is 01:22:41 oh my fuck so fucking epic that's not the top comment lives of TikTok there fucking oh fucking it's so fucking epic just to get lives of TikTok Doug Forge changed like Ontario like Palestine
Starting point is 01:22:53 you feel about that fucking lives of TikTok like Gaza I'm saying Lake Brampton. Lake Brampton, Ontario, Lake Oshawa. No, but it was funny. Literally, every Canadian, you could not like just ignore this. I saw people saying it was a fucking, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:23:11 I could both sides, everyone. Yeah, but then there's the meme with the Lips of TikTok when she's like, oh my God, this is so fucking epic. And then it was her and it was eating a boil of Goy Slop. Mm, more Goy Slot, please. Oh, it's so good. It is sort of boomer Goy. slop a little bit. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Look, look, this thing is so stupid. I saw all these Canadian people get so mad because all the like GoTrain and like Hydro 1 they have some mapping feature because they're just like in their thing and then it's Google Maps and they're
Starting point is 01:23:44 like, it shows like America in Canada. I'm outraged. Care to explain Hydro 1? And they're like, yeah, there's no Canadian mapping sites. And they're like, well, let's change that. How much it'll cost? One trillion You know, like America doesn't sound so bad. No, they're saying like, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Well, MapQuest. MapQuest was the one defiant one. Like, anybody even uses that anymore? MapQuest is like, we'll never change it to like America. Like, let me tell you what's going to happen. Do you remember printing out fucking maps from MapQuest? Oh, of course. Driving in the fucking snow with nine sheets.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Oh, yeah. Lost in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, you're like, where the fuck am I? Or the AAA maps? You ever had one of those? Oh, yeah. Literally like a hazard, by the way, to try and use one. Huge hazard.
Starting point is 01:24:29 You're just like, you're just like, I can't see the road anymore because you're going to navigate. You're like, why is this thing so big? But yeah, the like America thing, stupid. I don't care. It's literally the first day of the next Democratic president. Every single one of these will just be undone. But the more important part is, and you even said this on Twitter, you go,
Starting point is 01:24:53 I don't think Americans realize how much Canadian love changing names. Love changing names. Because there is, I do like this the little taste of their own medicine for Canada. Where I grew up, they've changed the name of three out of the four elementary schools to the point where you
Starting point is 01:25:07 don't know where anything is. People go, I'm on this street and you go what? And you go, you don't know any of the streets anymore because they've changed them all because the guy knew a guy that knew a guy that knew a slave. Yeah, who said the N-word one. Right. Like, fucking legitimately. 1840.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Every single thing they've changed. Like the amount of money they spent changing fucking everything because yeah the guy said the end word 19 fucking 8 I do actually like this and I don't think Trump knows about this stuff so I don't think this is this factored in but I do like Canada is getting a little taste of their own medicine with the name change
Starting point is 01:25:37 business yeah I do like that but again do not fall for this trap it's stupid it's still Lake Ontario you know it's a troll uh... that's what Carney said he goes we're gonna we're be ready to
Starting point is 01:25:50 yeah well we'll get back to the negotiating table once the meme stop and I'm like sir you just just increased the memes by 500% You just ordered. Are you trying to get memes? Because this is how you get memes. Did someone order some memes? He's like, well, well, put you in jail for memes. I mean, can't put you in jail if you don't live there, pal.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Well, maybe Cardi's in his mind, he goes, well, the memes will never stop. So I'm going to say that we won't negotiate until the memes stop. And that's where you were never negotiated. Brilliant. Yeah, brilliant. Give me another 10-year majority. Thank you. You know what's an interesting thing about Canada that's different from any other place,
Starting point is 01:26:24 not at any other place, but I was looking into this. So generally, almost throughout all of history, all countries look, generally it looks like the 18-year-olds are the most liberal, and then it just, the different age brackets
Starting point is 01:26:39 go more conservative as it goes up. And that's kind of always been the thing. They go, you know, and there's that old thing where they go, oh, show me an 18-year-old who's, you know, super right-wing. I'll show you a person without a heart and show me a 60-year-old who's not kind of conservative. it'll show you someone without a brain.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Right, yeah. I butcher that, but you get the quote. And that's always been somewhat the case. And part of it is that they've never, you never, when you're young, you don't understand, you, you kind of, a lot of the solutions that you've watched, you've watched over the last 30 years,
Starting point is 01:27:13 them like kind of not work. And then you go, okay, well, maybe I do need a more pragmatic approach. And I think you're probably naturally a little more inclined to be empathetic when you're younger. You understand how money works a little more, yeah. Yeah. Well, no, there's, There's also a
Starting point is 01:27:23 tax is also a thing with solving problems, period. Like, you know what? You ever been like in a group, let's say on even a movie or something and everyone, you've been trying to solve this problem forever.
Starting point is 01:27:34 And then like a new person comes in and their first thing is like, why don't you just do this? And everyone's like, trust me, we've tried every version of that. And you're like, well,
Starting point is 01:27:42 let me, you almost don't believe them. There's a bit like certain problems. There is like a young thing of like, why don't you try this and you're like, yes, we've tried that one. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:27:51 yeah, but I need to try it myself to like, And then you can kind of... I need to fail at this idea to personally... So there's a bit of that as well. But Canada right now is one of the only places where the like 30 to 50, 30 to 45
Starting point is 01:28:04 is far more conservative than 45 to 60. Yeah. So the older people are more conservative than the younger people. And part of it that... The younger people are more conservative? The younger people are more conservative than the older people. There was a bit of that where with, I think with Harris, where I bet you for women, like,
Starting point is 01:28:23 60-year-old women liked her better than like 30-year-old women. Probably. Like she was doing good in the sort of like no-kings boomer territory. Yeah. But the men still didn't that. So it's an interesting thing where one, it's probably one of the only times in history where men and women. I feel like that's similar, well, not similar, but I feel like the young, like in terms of, you know, 18 to 25-year-olds, I don't know if they'd be more, maybe not more conservative. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:49 You think, you think in America. Then they were. than they were for sure. Not than 35-year-olds. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of those things are being tested and screwed up that were forever kind of this way. For like 50 years ago, this was how the trend looks.
Starting point is 01:29:02 If you look at it, ages. This is just how it is. Yeah, just, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, this is just how it goes. And now they're kind of looking at it being like, no, this, it's like just switched. And a part of it is that like the Albers up boomers are fucking detached. A lot of it's the housing stuff. Because they had these people got these houses at like super low interest rates.
Starting point is 01:29:20 They made a lot of money on these houses. and young people can't buy houses, and that's one part of it. Yeah. And they're like, you know, this kind of like liberal just like bring more people and inflate the house. There's also 10 years of basically economic stagnation in the country. Whatever was doing not work. And they're sort of like, if you're retired, you don't know what the job market looks like. So you're sort of not tied into that.
Starting point is 01:29:39 On top of that, there's another part where this is a small part of it. But if you, if you were in Canada, for example, and you saw 15 years of like Justin Trudeau, you think that's a liberal party. maybe if you're old enough, you might be like, well, that's the aberration. Yeah, yeah, that was like the super liberal party. Yeah, and then on top of that, I might have said this before to you, but I thought it was very interesting that in USA, the population is 4% of the world's population and 50% of the new millionaires. So did I bring, did I tell you that?
Starting point is 01:30:07 I think he said it last week. Yeah, okay. So that one, these are my stats that I've been interested in. Yeah, it's the greatest economy in the world. It's the greatest economy in the world's ever known. Yeah, no. Now, I mean, a million dollars anywhere what a million dollars used to be. Well, that's true, but.
Starting point is 01:30:19 I will say that. The notion that we have been fixed. I'm 42 years old and my entire life. Someone's just like, oh, it was a millionaire. And you go, that's not the same as when I was a kid. I know. It's way different. Like, I saw someone say, like, no, it's like, it's $4 million now.
Starting point is 01:30:34 It's just the millionaire has such a nice ring to it. Sucks. Yeah, like, such a nice ring to it, but having a million dollars is not, obviously, having a million dollars. That's a hard pill to swallow. That having a million dollars is just not a million dollars. Yeah. You know? Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Things might get. a lot worse before they get better. One funny thing I was also thinking about it with like Canada, Britain, all these sort of countries is when people say that, like, people will call white people colonizers. And I have a joke basically where I was saying that, like, well, if I was like Irish moved to Canada, you're like literally colonized people, you know what I mean? Yeah. So, but making like colonized people apologize as a colonizer is like so fun.
Starting point is 01:31:18 It's, you know, it'd be like the equivalent of like, well, it's only the white colonized. Your buddy that doesn't get any pussy, and he's a virgin, making him apologize to everyone for hogging all the snows. I was like, that's kind of funny. Yeah. And then my second quick little funny thing was jelly roll took over for Jimmy Kimmel. I saw that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:34 And I don't even know how that fucking happened. That was so bizarre. It was just a huge celebrity now. I guess I didn't even know that seems like not even friends or whatever, but I didn't, he came on and he was sort of like trash and Trump. And I think a lot of people. Yeah, I didn't watch that. So I just know that there was controversy.
Starting point is 01:31:47 I just know that was the word thing where he was calling him. Trump fat. Okay, so he basically... And then he cried. Well, that was... Is there something about being... This is what I'm bringing up, yeah. Is there something?
Starting point is 01:31:56 Is there like, do they have, like, some sort of discombobulator type machine at these studios that just makes you cry? Is, like, it would be amazing if we just found out, like, why does everybody cry? And then Guillermo's just been, like, chopping onions? Just, he's just like, when he's waiting off stage, he constantly just, and he goes, no, it's just, Guillermo won't stop chopping onions. Was that part of the contract with Jimmy Kimmel? that like you're allowed to take over my show for a month,
Starting point is 01:32:20 but like we have a stipulation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what's gonna be chopping onions. Like, is that part of the audition? Like, you auditioned to take over for a month? Was there just something about the gravity of hosting late night with Jimmy Kimmel on ABC? That makes you just... Jelly Roll, a friend of the show? Yeah, no, I love Jelly Roll.
Starting point is 01:32:36 But it's just like, is there something that just makes you cry? I don't know. It's super funny. Yeah, just every cry. Something about going on Jimmy Kimmel as a host, you have to cry. Or it makes you cry. It's like one of these awesome. I'm not like a fan of, I'm not like a jelly,
Starting point is 01:32:51 I don't like that kind of music, but yeah, I like jelly roll. Well, I don't know. We met him on the podcast once and it was a fun episode, but I don't know, I thought it was a fun time. That type of music's not really my thing. No.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Not a big country guy. Country sort of rap mix. I don't know. Yeah, not for me. I'm not a country guy or a country rap thing. I mean, yeah. Probably the only country rap that I've ever liked is Nelly. But that's what you're right.
Starting point is 01:33:18 It's not really country. country it's southern yeah uh yeah i like some southern influence stuff nelly had some bangers man if you want to go come and take a ride with me ryan's idea of country if you want to do my little bit moving in the back oh wants to feel this way hey it must be the money that's my big real country not me my brother she's always my mom one time her in her ipod playlist it was a It's getting hot in here. So take off on her. And we're killing her that forever.
Starting point is 01:33:54 She's getting hot. She's going to take her clothes up. So, okay. Now, there was just a quick update on this end of WMBA stuff. I thought a funny thing was, this was from a while ago, but I didn't realize that they did this where they said, new broadcasting guidelines to prevent sexualization of women's athletes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:19 And... This is after, I think, the Olympics. Yeah, and they had to make all these... They had to make all these, like... Basically just stopped showing all the volleyball players. But they couldn't say that, so they had to do all this corporate lingo to stop showing asses. Yeah, it's just like all these chicks with fat asses who are basically wearing, like, thongs. No prolonged close-up shots of specific body parts.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Low-angle views taken beneath the athletes. Slow-motion replays that don't contribute. It's kind of difficult if you're doing like beach volleyball because you're kind of just set up right behind them. It is so funny. It's just like all netting up. They're like, if you are like a cameraman for the WNBA or any of these things, they keep coming at you with like, no, you perv. Hey, a nice perv show. No, that's what they should do is they should force them to do it for the WNBA.
Starting point is 01:35:06 And then people are like, can you fucking lift these cameras up a little bit? Well, I thought of a good answer to, um, I've been thinking about this for years now. but one of my biggest things that bothers me is when we talk about like this stuff, for example, and they go, okay, so if a dude was going to play in the MVP, why do you care, right? And I probably talked about this bunch, but I was thinking, how do you explain it to a woman?
Starting point is 01:35:34 Is they go, well, why do you care? You go, I don't care about the thing. I care about the principle. Right, it would be the equivalent of like a woman comes up to you and you're like, well, you don't, you say you don't care about Bitcoin. And you say you don't care about Bitcoin, but then if I go to the Bitcoin conference
Starting point is 01:35:47 and get 15 prostitutes, all of a sudden it's Bitcoin, this, Bitcoin that. Why do you care what happens at Bitcoin? Yeah. Why do you care if there's prostitutes at Bitcoin? Why do you care about Bitcoin conference so much? Of course there's prostitutes at Bitcoin. Why are you so obsessed with Bitcoin Conference?
Starting point is 01:36:00 It's like all you've been talking about for fucking week straight. I mean, it's just like kind of making you feel crazy. That's always been my issue with a lot of them. Then there's the gas lighting. But to me, the gas lighting is the one thing. They do combine a bit, but the other thing is that like, why do you care about women's basketball and you go, well, I don't. You care about the, like, what's true.
Starting point is 01:36:18 I mean, I think, the WMBA, I just needs to get away from the distractions and just get back to focusing on the bad play. That's just like, they're bread and butter, and they just need to focus on just really... Boys, we need us to get back to some bad basketball. I'm telling you. You need to get back to just focusing on just the bad play, you know, just the X's and O's. I was thinking that in the UFC context, you almost wouldn't want to fight a trans person. or let's say remove the UFC conference
Starting point is 01:36:48 like if someone was like fighting you in a bar like if someone pushed you and it was like a trans chick that's the last person you want to a man's strength and a woman's lack of accountability yeah I mean I think a UFC fight would probably put this entire thing to bed
Starting point is 01:37:06 well they had not UFC no I'm saying a UFC just watching a woman get absolutely pummeled by a man and like and like you almost get like a referee who's kind of like a wrestling referee who's just like looking the wrong way for no reason like gets distracted by the audience and the guy sort of taunting her he's just like he's doing like three stooges moves to her like holding her head with a finger like yeah yeah that
Starting point is 01:37:29 like that kind of thing where it's just so like you know they show her face afterwards just holding her like one leg like dangling her taunted her like i von drogo and a wig and just like oh god also you know that like sometimes you'll meet a straight guy that he sounds gay that's a stragg It's not bad I coined that Straggett's a straight guy that has a gay voice Yeah I just use the traditional term Oh you yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:37:57 I just don't You're right because the traditional term sort of covers that Yeah exactly Just lets them know what's going on Just let them know how we're all kind of perceiving them And you know Take some speech therapy classes Okay
Starting point is 01:38:11 So I don't have to keep telling you that And then also I was a point that I had was because I always talk about like if I see like when they have like women action heroes it's never like a big sell for me right and I and I and I and you'd say well why is that sexist
Starting point is 01:38:25 because you take it from a guy and I go well here here's a point that I had is that women's superheroes I have no problem with yeah because you've explained it to me you they have super yeah you you design the yeah so I've never had a problem with like a superhero woman like when you
Starting point is 01:38:41 when you watch like when I've watched shows where it's like well she has some special power I go okay and I don't I don't have to think about it ever again. That's fine. Would you watch a superwoman movie, but instead of Kryptonite, it's a count of a movie? I don't like when they just take to Kryptonite.
Starting point is 01:38:58 It doesn't make sense to say that's her kryptonite because kryptonite is a Superman's kryptonite, but. No, I don't like it when they take anything and just make a girl version of it. Obviously, yeah. But if you had like a female superhero and you give her a powers, that never thinks to me.
Starting point is 01:39:09 And I think, and if I thought about it, if you were at a bar and there was like an old guy there, right? and he was like 70 years old and you and your three friends were there and like you got in a fight with a seven year old guy. There is a chance that he kicks the shit out of all of you. Like there is a chance. Yeah, he just has that old man strength. Right. And so when you're talking about Liam Neeson beating up a bunch of people, you go, it's probably not.
Starting point is 01:39:33 But the percentage chance isn't zero. Yeah. And there's also, again, if there's a 70 year old woman, the percentage chance is zero. Right. And obviously there's an element of suspending disbelief. But once you've created this world. where you go, no, in this world, this is how it is. She has secret powers.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Yeah, she has secret powers in this world. And you go, sure. Because I don't need the superhero to be like, it's likely. You just like, it's not impossible. Right. But when you see it's a woman and she beats up like a bunch of guys, you go, well, that's actually impossible. Right. Yeah, yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 01:40:01 But if in the context of the movie and you go, well, this guy has lasers coming out of his eyes. I'm fine. That's all. Okay, I get what's going on here. Okay. Patreon.com slash the boys cast. Appreciate all the new ones. new real ones over there
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