The Boyscast with Ryan Long - GETTING YELLED AT BY BOTH SIDES w/ Destiny

Episode Date: June 28, 2022

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It's a little short. I might go longer. I actually might go longer on that one. That's a little short. I might go longer. I actually might go longer on that one. That's our King Solomon thing where you go with the baby or whatever. I do not. Sounds funny, though. It's a very famous Bible thing. I think it's King Solomon where there's a baby,

and then two mothers are like, it's my baby, and then they come to him to decide, and he goes, look, you know what we'll do? We'll just cut the baby in half. You'll each get, it's my baby. And then they come to him to decide. And he goes, look, you know what we'll do? We'll cut the baby in half. You'll each get a half of the baby. And then the one that objects gets to keep it. Because they go, that's the true mother. This is our king.

Well, one wouldn't object. What was the mother that said? I guess the one, well, because the true mother goes, no, no, no. I want my child to be alive. Even if I don't get to have the baby but wouldn't both mothers like who would that feel like I feel like

actually King Solomon would be like well cut the babies and both mothers would be like yeah okay not that and then he'd be like is that really the only

solution you have man is just cut the baby in half King Solomon probably was like really thought that was going to work I figured out a way

to solve this neither of us want to do that he goes hmm okay I guess like really thought that was gonna work i thought this is i figured out a way yeah you go we neither of us want to do that he goes hmm okay i guess we're gonna have to that was really the only plan i had with this i was really expecting one of you to say yes and one of you to say no here yeah i really thought that would solve this whole puppy but yeah so uh anyways come back next week i'll have a new game and a new game. So how about this? I'm going to cut fingers off the babies. What does that do? What would nothing?

He goes, honestly, I was expecting one of you to at least ask whether it was going to be lengthwise or across the cut. Are we going to be cutting it right down the middle or at the waist? No, that's King Solomon going to one of the mothers. She was like, what is it? I said, I hope it's actually King Solomon. Whoever it is. But he goes, you know, we'll cut the babies in half. And he like, I hope it's King Solomon. What is it? I said, I hope it's actually King Solomon. Yeah, whoever it is. But he goes,

you know, we'll cut the babies in half. And he goes, no, you were into it. She goes, I wasn't. No, no, you flinched a bit. I saw you smirk a little bit.

No, you kind of like this idea. No baby for you. I didn't like this idea. Wow. Big week in the row. Are you more of a row guy or more of a weighed guy? I'm row. I think we'll probably, I think we'll go through some articles and stuff on the Friday episode of the reaction to this.

But for right now, this is the main thing that I, I think that right now, my main take on abortion is if you want to get rid of abortion, you want to get rid of jewels, you get one. I just think you can't do that to girls. It's a lot to do to women at once. It's a lot to do to women at once. You go, you're getting rid of jewels. And by the way, you're telling me some of these people, Hunter Biden's never ripped a fat ass vape cloud. While getting an abortion? While getting an abortion. While one a fat ass vape cloud while getting an abortion? While one of his prostitutes have to get an abortion? And this is the

thing, you know, you can't only put people through so much. You're going to take the right to jewel away? Yeah, that's fucked up. I think if you said, listen, how about this? Do you think that's why they introduced the jewel thing? Is there like we're getting rid of jewels and vaping and then they get rid of abortion. They go, fine, we'll give you back jeweling and then sort of like a little something something

they snuck that one through there they just go while everybody's worried about their abortions we're gonna just yeah get rid of the jewels you think that biden hasn't you know ripping a fat vape cloud amazing banging a slut you walk into the office're like, I can't even see what is going on. And Joe's just like. Blowing clouds. That's what happens. After a long bike ride. He blows the rings through the rings. He does all those tricks. Come on, man.

Check out my tricks. How good is that? The idea of Biden. He's just at the White House. He's just fucking. Just fucking. Tune it up, vape clouds. of Biden. He's just at the White House just fucking just fucking chewing up vape clouds. He's doing penises.

He's doing everything. He's the fucking leader of the free world. I think so. That's what he would have been doing if this legislation is going to hurt him too. Hunter Biden right now, his son, I don't know if you know this, but you have a son named Hunter. I don't know if you know this, but you have a son named Hunter.

Yeah. I don't know if you're familiar with that. I don't remember. If you took one day off taking bike rides, if you could take 15 seconds off riding a bike. Or not riding a bike.

This triathlete that we have in charge, you know? So if you take 15 seconds, you know he has a son, Hunter, that was blowing two titties out of vape clouds and then he blows a dick that did he blowing two titties out of vape clouds and then

draw and then he blows a dick the titty fucks the dick just cuts right that's his heart you know that's hunter biden's heart jill biden comes in he's just ripping fat ass clouds into her asshole i assume that's what's going on with the roe v wade stuff how long do you think is a good amount of time because i think this is this affects our listeners as well as us what's going on. With the Roe v. Wade stuff, how long do you think is a good amount of time? Because I think this affects our listeners as well as us. What's a good amount of time where you can kind of finally tell all the women who live in blue states in Canada that they actually didn't lose any rights? I think that...

You don't want to do it today, I feel. I really had that tweet fired up, too. I have this tweet in my drafts, and I was just like, I lost so many followers with my last one that I go, maybe i'm gonna wait you know what like hoes be mad yeah that was aggressive more like hoes be mad that i uh i lost quite a few followers on that one so yeah i can't stash this one i was like again i'm like i'm pro i'm totally pro abortion i just yeah i'm also pro jokes i fucking love abortion like a good joke fucking love abortions. I like a good joke. I like a good abortion.

You like a good abortion. And he likes a good vape cloud. But I've seen so many. It's getting to the point where all these women in New York and California are being like, I can't believe I woke up with less rights. And you're like, you didn't, though. You have the same amount of rights because you live in Canada, especially. People in Canada are being like, it's a dark day for Canada.

And you go, what? Trudeau always responds to this stuff. I know, but you're like, you don't even live in America and then lots of people in America

didn't even lose any rights. You fucking tell them, Danny. You spit that fire. Yeah, maybe delete that. That's why this is the boys cast. The boys cast. It's not the girls cast.

But, so today, we are doing this thing tonight, this festival called Mines. So if people don't know, Mines.com. Yes. Is it com? Mines.com, yeah. Mines.com.

Yeah. So we're doing this festival, and the whole idea of the festival is, well, I think it's like a lot of interesting people there, that Magid guy. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Magid Nawaz. Tulsi Gabbard. like all these sort of people uh so it's a pretty cool thing but their whole thing is they have people from like the left and the right and it's kind of like hey let's have all these people

you know together whatever and then uh so destiny who's this like you know big streamer dude who's friends with friends of ours and i've like i always find him interesting i always have a soft spot for anyone who's like a troublemaker too yeah he is a real troublemaker so he he's gonna do a live stream at the at the minds thing which probably already came out and then he's coming to our studio right now and we're gonna do uh like an hour interview with him before we go to this minds thing and in the spirit of so yeah I mean he's like uh I feel like he's somewhat like hard hard guy to like pin down because he's like always if you go to his twitter account he's always arguing with both people at the same time. Yeah, he's just a troublemaker.

Troublemaker. We talked about all the different things. So, yeah, if anyone's triggered by different opinions... Not for you, pal. Probably the opposite of our last week's guest, I think, right? Tim Kennedy. Oh, yeah. Probably the complete opposite.

A bit different. But, you know, it's good. We like diversity of opinion. That's what you said complete opposite but you know it's good we like diversity that's what you said yes you said it's a diversity of opinion thing anyways okay so this one's sort of a

we're gonna have like a smooth convo you know this is the kind of convo that you know they can't take your vape cloud you just wanna sit back with a vape

you know what I mean it's just gonna be a couple guys chilling some you know some chill vibes maybe put some jazz on in the background and just listen to smooth style is it too aggressive for our little like i mean it's just gonna be a couple guys chilling some you know should we get a chill vibes i was just maybe put some jazz on in the background and just listen to smooth style is it too aggressive for our little like our tchotchkes to get in like an aborted fetus floating in a jar

is that too much i was thinking for the tchotchkes that you do the old school like tucker mags thing where you basically like we like do uh you know if you did like a abortion fund but like it's like a like to a guy like so we do you know how like do you know what i, if you did like a abortion fund, but like, it's like a, like to a guy, like, so we do, you know how like, do you know what I mean? Like,

you know how they always do the abortion funds? Like we do like the boys gets abortion fund, but it's like a dude and he has to like, he has to send us pictures being like of the girl being busted and stuff where it's like, dude, I can't have a kid with this chick. And it's like, he has to show like,

look, this is my real chick. I was cheating. Like shit like that. I'm in a real pickle here, boys. Yeah. Yeah. We're, we're getting a dude out of a pickle. So we fly them to like, look, this is my real chick. I was cheating. I'm in a real pickle here, boys. We're getting a dude out of a pickle so we fly him to like... Canada.

But it's like no girls are allowed to apply. Isn't that funny? Guys can apply. The smooth stylings of our interview for this week. Of Destiny. Of Destiny. We are here on the boys cast.

I'm going to go full radio announcer. With Destiny. And we're going to this minds thing. And they're trying to put comedy on it. So I'm going to go bomb in front of, after Tulsi Gabbard talking about the war. The war machine. Yeah. It sucks that everything is like ultra political today.

Everything. Oh yeah. It's like super ultra political. If you're a comedy act, it's political. Like people expect you to have positions on everything. at every walk of life you need to be informed of every single big social and international yeah that actually is one of the more refreshing things in comedy when you see someone straight up just doing like an act from the 80s where it was like informed by nothing and they're just like just like ah it's actually kind of nice yeah but

those things got politicized where i gotta be like the difference between men and women everyone's like what did you say? What kind of men? What kind of women? Yeah. The one thing was you were kind of one of the first guys to get kicked off Twitch, right? Yeah. It's a world. It's a whole world.

I've actually gotten away from the hardcore debater archetype as much. I try to just do more conversational stuff now. Yeah. Because I find I have more luck with people if I try to meet them where they're at, acknowledge some shared reality, and then talk from there. Isn't that why some... I guess that's the thing we're doing today. The whole deal is they're like, hey, people from different sides

meeting or whatever. But with you, I feel like, is that somewhat why people were getting mad at you too? Because that is a political position to be like, you know, I'll just talk to anyone and kind of understand their perspective. Yeah I mean the problem is that like everybody treats everybody as like this ontologically evil being and it compromises

like the comics are always like oh you want me to compromise with a Nazi that wants to kill my entire fucking family and it's like well. He doesn't see it like that. I don't think that everybody's like that I don't think everybody's that extreme yeah or on the Republican side like I'm not going to compromise somebody who wants to trans all the kids in school it's like I don't know if they want to do that too.

There's a lot of hyperbole. The temperature is super high on every single conversation. I know every political commentator is talking about how all of the institutions have failed. We all need to buy guns and be ready for the fucking Civil War. And it's like, wait, can I cuss here? Is that okay? Oh yeah. We need to be ready for the Civil War and get guns. And it's like, Jesus. It's a little extreme.

What was the cuss word there? Jesus or extreme fuck well okay so basically i saw your twitter is like mostly arguing with people all day long right yeah my twitter me and me me are these are two different people okay i don't is it we're never in the same place at the same time but we're two different people i promise you okay but i it felt to me like the most of the issues that i felt like you kind of were getting yelled at for of the issues that i felt like you kind of were getting yelled at for were the ones where i'm like how is this even a left or right issue like the biggest one it seemed like tell me if i'm wrong was when everyone's saying like an 18 year old with like a 16 year old is like grooming oh there's a lot man there are so many

crazy issues but i think i have like pretty non-controversial positions but maybe i state them sometimes in kind of an edgy manner. Yeah. But yeah, the there's like every word is like, you know, like with the political stuff, everything's turned up. Well,

also every word is like been turned up too. So like if you, if you support the police at all, you're a fascist Nazi. If there's like a one year difference in age, you're like a pedophile. And yeah, there's like all this like crazy stuff.

I remember there were a few kids that I say kids, like 15 to 20 year old people that were like trying to release documents they were trying to like me too this guy because he was like he was like an 18 year old or 17 year old i think in a high school talking to a girl who's like 15 and they were like there was no sexting no nudes or anything but they're like we think this is like predator behavior it's like you guys are like fucking kids you're all in high school yeah like that's i thought that was kind of like talking about? You're all in high school? Yeah. Like that's, I thought that was kind of like the assumption. If you're all in high school, like it's fine.

Yeah. Yeah, it's just, it's really weird. As long as none of you are the teacher. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, like. That's a perfect example of one where it was kind of like, the like left was saying everyone's like a groomer pedophile and then the right saying everyone is a groomer pedophile.

And you're just like, all right, so I guess everyone. Everybody's just a groomer pedophile. Yeah. Yeah, that was a hard one too and i got a lot of trouble because people on the left are understandably really upset that now like every single teacher that might be gay people are like you're a groomer it's like well i don't think that's true people on the left are understandably upset about that but then people on the left will say like every single person that's dating somebody that's like younger than they envision in their mind they

should be is also like a pedophile i was like that's not true either right like there was a thing recently like some 24 25 year old guy this is a funny thing too they'll always say like going on 25 okay so he's 24 i don't know why the fuck you would phrase it that way right always use these like phrases well because they want you to be on the other side of it so you're like because then you're like oh he's basically 30 yeah but it'll be like you'll have like a guy who's like 15 in january and his birthday's in february and then you have another dude who's like 20 and his birthday is in like fucking december and it'll be like you know the 20 the 25 year old going on 26 versus like okay what the fuck are the 20 yeah like yeah it's dumb people do yeah but um yeah but then they're

calling like everybody pedophiles and it's like i mean like once you're 18 you're probably like you probably have to draw a line somewhere you know it gets yeah there's definitely weird stuff but like pedophiles the 25 year old that did it's an 18 year old pedophile? There's a 25-year-old that did this in 1899. A pedophile? No. I mean, literally, like, again, you could debate the law. You could say the law is improper or whatever. At that point. It's different in different places. Yeah, it's different in different places. So it's like if you pedophile.

But I think it's pretty safe that you're not a pedophile after 18, regardless. Any country in the world. Yeah. I think that's your cutoff, where you go, you're like, it might be a little on the risque side but wasn't there like twitch people they were getting you know kind of uh you know they canceled or whatever for that yeah there's there's been a lot of weird yeah cancellation attempts the whole i mean like the twitch world is just a microcosm of like the larger world too so we saw i would argue some really positive stuff um came out of the me too initially, but now it's kind of ballooned into this thing where it's like any guy that's ever wronged me is about to get his comeuppance on Twitter.

And people forget that Me Too was important because you have these people that can't be held responsible or reliable via legal means, and every other option has been exhausted. And it's kind of like a black community thing, too. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. So you go to social media, it's like, this this is my last resort but now it's become people's like first resort like i had a bad date let me tell you why jonathan raped me it's like i mean aziz ansari was literally like that was i wanted a date that was stupid yeah you're like this wasn't my

favorite date ever we saw a few guys get turned on that where they're like the most you know down the middle guy and then like a a girl accused him of shit. We know one where it's like they were together and the girl, like after they broke up was like, I didn't, I felt like some of the times that we had sex while we were in that relationship, like looking back, like he like kind of coerced me into it. And it was like with words. Yeah.

And you're like, what would you want to like happen to him? You're like, I don't know, maybe 10, 15 years in jail seems reasonable. Yeah. Not even actually that, that would, that would be a more reasonable. yeah and you're like what would you want like happen to him you're like I don't know maybe 10-15 years in jail seems reasonable yeah not even actually that would be a more reasonable situation usually people are like I just want their entire life

and name destroyed forever yeah working at a Walmart yeah exactly that's it and only as the greeter not even like a manager

no no no not a prestigious Walmart position no no no you need to be the worst one yeah 100% that's what people are like now they're always like

well what happened to him it's like so what he's still working and you're just like well yeah i'm like not for anyone like he's out of the industry but i feel like that's what is way better about like i don't know being on not in the industry as you don't have to like you know play by the rules to some degree which is why you can just get in fights with everyone all day long yeah well depending i mean i just got banned from twitch, so I'm not completely... So, what happened? People always hear... Just real quick, because there's people listening,

it's like, I want to be my own boss. You're never your own boss. There's always some motherfucker at the end of the day that can pull the trigger on your shit. There's some guy for you guys, it's probably whoever does booking at whatever theaters you try to do.

There's places. There's always a dude, Susan at YouTube, so there's always somebody that can axe your shit, unless you literally live in the forest and grow mushrooms or some shit. You're right.

Even Donald Trump, billionaire, it's like, you know, he's yelling on true social. Yeah, true. Yeah, exactly. Along into his Gab account. Yeah, geez. Yeah, he really is. He made his own platform. It's the worst and nobody's really on there. Well, when you make it, the problem is that in all of these like alternative media platforms have this problem.

Is that when you make an alternative media platform, the catch you have to do is always, is always well we're free speech guys we'll take all of the banned people from everywhere and that's going to be the worst community yeah it's just like the thing is you need everybody plus all the banned people not just the band because like there are there are going to be people that get caught in bands i would say me included um that like probably shouldn't have been banned they're okay people but there are a lot for every one person there are like 100 people like yeah you definitely should have been yeah and then they were also banning like on true social apparently people were critical of the january 6th committee and then they were banning those people oh yeah also that stuff's not even fun it feels like that stuff

is not like even if you are like hey let's like you know troll with like the worst stuff it's only fun when you have a body of normal people too yeah when it's like trolls trolling trolls pulling trolls then it's like you're in like some esoteric like fifth dimension troll land where you don't even know like well it's not even trolls they all say something as a troll and then everybody agrees with them honestly and they go oh yeah that's not like what are we doing right now do you ever see like a juicy like just a juicy argument you could jump in on twitter and you just stop yourself. You go like this all day. No, but I'm saying like real.

I can't stop. I see it. But I'm like other ones where you go like, do you see that Ottawa professor, that guy who like shamed the one we're talking about, who shamed the woman on flight for not wearing a mask or whatever? Oh, my God. I read that guy is just like fighting. I don't think I don't know if that's a real person.

He is. Is he? Because I click through his thing. We're from Canada. I clicked through his thing and I started reading his profile and it was indistinguishable from a conservative

trying to parody an insane left-leaning person. No, he is. He's a professor at the university. That guy rules. He's a professor. Yeah, he's Otetan or something. Oh my God.

He's a professor at the University of Ottawa. And he's like very... Like, fuck America. I moved from... I'm Canadian 11 years ago. You guys are bringing your horrible shit. It's like the most soy fucking shit I from there. I'm Canadian. 11 years ago. You guys are bringing your horrible shit.

It's like the most soy fucking shit I've ever seen in my life. Like, bro, it's Canada. You're a fucking America light. Like, of all the places you could have ran away to, like, you literally go to America's backyard. Like, what are you doing? No, but he is just like, really? That guy's blood pressure.

I would love to see that guy's like a heart rate monitor on him while he's on Twitter. Constantly. Yeah. He's the meme of like the laughing where you pull it up and he's mad or whatever yeah exactly or mentally ill but yeah but probably that one the uh i i've felt that like i've watched a lot of some of my friends that were like really really hyped up on everything they're kind of a lot of them are like yeah i got a little carried away in the fucking trump years i don't know if you think that people are more hyped up or less hyped up right now um right now they're

right now they're hyped up because of the roe v wade thing but i mean like everybody gets hyped up on everything like people won't admit it but have you ever heard of like uh like tds trump derangement syndrome there was also yeah i have we're saying that professor has long tds yeah well there's also people won't admit it there is tdss which is trump derangement syndrome syndrome where every single criticism of trump a person gonna make like you have tds you have td i don't really know how i feel about trump like using the military to try to like do border policy seems kind of weird oh it sounds like you have tds i don't know how i feel about the grab them by the pussy thing well maybe you have

tds like i don't know i don't know man you said yeah everybody's just fucking just a catch-all yeah everything is wild no i like it when you're i've seen you i think even with the abortion stuff it was like this where you're arguing you're like in currently in fights with like on both the sides on you yeah but the issue is that like because i'll argue things but i like if i gotta argue with anybody if i could argue my mom my mom is very conservative i have to immediately disavow like 50 other things that people on my side say before i can even begin to have the yeah yeah yeah um like i'll like i'll be fighting like people be like you know uh oh you just want to murder nine month old abort like fetuses like man dude nobody's asking for a nine month abortion that's

insane and then people like no we should be able to abort about those shut the fuck up i'm trying to have a conversation over here that's honestly i feel what the biggest problem with the whole abortion debate is is that there's this tiny subsect of people of like people who go like yeah it's like it's my body my choice no questions asked and if and if i want to kill a nine month old then i will yeah and then people are like okay you lost me i'm like for abortion which is so stupid because it's like i think it's like 92.7 percent of abortions are in the first trimester yeah for sure which is the vast majority that's what i'm saying but it's these people are so hard-headed about that fact where you're like,

look, it's my body, my choice. Like, if I want to kill a baby that's about, like, breaching, that's my right. Yeah, exactly. And people are like, okay, you're losing regular people here who agree with you.

Yeah, and you have, like, the argument. Yeah, you have the argument. It's like, there's probably, there are decent arguments for minors, for people between the ages of 14 and 18

to be able to engage with, like, trans healthcare in some way. And it's like, I think you can make arguments, but I think you can even get conservatives to be somewhat on board with this but then some motherfucker will come out here and he'll say like well what about my four-year-old trans child it's like bro you need to shut the fuck up and go back in the closet you're ruining for everybody right now like you need to get the fuck out of here there was a dad on tiktok and he's like i'm trans and my child's trans and you're like, what are the odds of that?

What are the odds that you're trans? The.7% of the population in both of you. Yeah, exactly. Or like these whole friend groups or whatever that are all like. Of course, but then you're like, but it's one thing friend groups, you go like, okay, I have friends take after each other. I could see that, but you're like, okay, you're a graduating class of 200 and your friend group is 50 people wide and you're all trans.

That's a little bit strange. Yeah, exactly. You just check the water supply or something maybe alex jones is on to something there you know for sure but then but then people always see the worst aspect where they see like this transparent with the they go my four-year-old's trans and you're like okay well something's probably four-year-old's probably not trans you're probably just projecting onto them like your values which parents do all the time. And then social media today will amplify all of those messages and then it's like

you're we have a really hard problem this is a shot in the dark have you ever heard of the Chinese bank robber fallacy? No. Basically it's like it's like a numbers game

like you could show a hundred Chinese people committing violent acts of robbery every single day for an entire year but it wouldn't actually be a big deal because there are so many

Chinese people statistically it's going to be that way we've kind of talked about that yeah with police officers i could show you like once a week there could be a police officer murdering and an unarmed man and i mean like like nobody knows how many police officers are in the nation that's sean king yeah yeah exactly yeah it's like there could be whatever like if i tell you there are like 10 000 police officers and i show you one violent killing a year is that pretty bad and you're like oh yeah that be, what if I tell you there are like 10,000 police officers and I show you one violent killing a year. Is that pretty bad? And you're like, oh yeah, that's bad. What if I told you there are a hundred thousand?

Cause now the problem just technically got one 10th as bad. What if I told you there are a million? Now it's a one, 100, but you don't think about that in your mind, you know? Yeah. With the whole trend, like the trans debate forever too, is a lot of them,

they would be like, you know, we're getting like, we're getting murdered or whatever. And I always thought, I'm like, you can't expect that your murder rate would just be zero because nobody's murder rate is zero. Nobody can say their group's murder rate is zero. So why would that be your big point?

You go, we're getting murdered. You're like, everybody's getting murdered. So it's going to be more than zero. When you've got 24-7 news, it's easy to pick and choose whatever stories. And then you can sell whatever. With, what, 340 million people in this country. You can find anybody committing any crime for anything. Absolutely. Yeah, it's really rough.

No, you can literally connect any narrative where you're like, there's an epidemic of redheads getting murdered. And you're just like, look at here. Every day, here's six redheads that got murdered. Oh, man. There's a guy, Scott Alexander. He writes a really good blog, Slate Star Code codex but he has a thing where he goes on and for like two paragraphs he tells you about like an epidemic of cardiologists that are murdering people and it's like he's got like 50 different stories of like different states but he does this yeah it is the idea it's like yeah i

mean you can dig through any profession there are x number of cardiologists of course is going to be people but yeah but i do feel like i've been i always have that because especially being in like new york and doing comedy there's like obviously most people don't ever have to be around anyone that's different so they'll be you know they're be like these fucking you know new york snowflake liberals and you're like they're not really like everyone's not like a psychopath like fucking whatever right yeah they're not like the craziest brooklyn hipster you can think of yeah everywhere and then they're like they're, these fucking Trump this and that. You go, really?

It's just someone's mom. Like, you know, it's just actually a mom. That's my mom. Yeah. You're talking about my mom right now. Yeah. Yeah. It's a million people.

And just like, what about this for idea if they're going to ban abortion in Texas? Like a clinic like right outside of Texas and it's can't believe it's not a Texas abortion. So, you know. Yeah, you can do it. You go, it's like, it's all, it's so close

to a Texas abortion. But. The funny meme I saw was people talking about setting him up on Indian reservations because they're not part of the state.

Oh. So you now might be a new business revenue. And you get a bag of smokes with the abortion. Illegal fireworks maybe. And play a little it might be new business revenue. And you get a bag of smokes with the abortion. Illegal fireworks, maybe. And play a little blackjack while you're waiting.

Yeah. And little slot machines in the abortion waiting room. You know what? Okay, tell me if you think this, though. I feel like some of the abortion stuff where it's like,

it's hard to even, I feel like hard to argue with everyone because I'm like, okay, if you argue with left-wing people, they don't even listen to like the right-wing debate. So they're arguing against what they don't, everyone's arguing against what the other person doesn't think.

I guess in the debate community with straw man, I guess, right? The issue is really like, when do you consider a fetus to be? Yeah, that's nothing else, Matt. Cause pro-choice, pro-choice to what? Kill a human? Like, would you say, would you argue pro-choice for a one-year-old child? Like probably not. And then pro-life on the conservative side is stupid because it's like

well if they thought it was like a human life they're probably not gonna be okay killing it but nobody wants to connect on that part of the conversation that's a really i think they would argue like we're not but we have that this is like the best we can get or something it is odd to me with this one debate though where it's like conservatives this is the only thing where they're actually seem or at least pretending to be the more empathetic ones because normally they're like the side no it's always about the children but they're always the but conservatives are always the size of like less empathy it seems on most issues and this is the one well if you want to play the less empathy card it would be saying that like you know women get raped and stuff i know i know that but they're

i'm saying this is how it's they're framing it where they're like we're the more empathetic ones in this scenario i think most people say all of their things are the empathetic side. I think people try to. I think from the liberal side, it's easy to say they're not empathetic. But from the conservative side, it's always like, well, we don't want to give welfare because we want people to be able to work for themselves and do their own stuff. Yeah, exactly. Everybody sees themselves as – Like liberty, the argument would be that you are – this is better for people.

Exactly, yeah. you are uh this is better for people yeah but what is like the actual amount of people who are pro like not sides but like you know pro-choice is something like what 70 80 percent in america it's a pretty big number i don't know it's over 60 i think it's over who are not like a get who are like for abortion in some instances yeah it's like yeah it's the majority like i do wonder like the political repercussions for because you know a lot of people in red states, I'm sure, like, yeah, I don't want this. But there's a lot of people that are, you know, I was, like, again, from Canada, like, I don't think I've met someone that, you know, even has, like, really an opinion. It was just such a settled thing in Canada, right? Oh, it's super fringe.

Even in the United States, it kind of was. Yeah. Well, but I guess to them, it was one of those things where you know it's the same thing with like trump and everyone's mad and you're kind of like oh everyone was this mad about obama were they like you're like yeah no it was settled but like they were they were you know no that's true i guess because there are states that are constantly pushing the boundaries of like if you come in for an abortion like i think in texas if you go in for an abortion there has to be two different meetings the first one they have to show you like a video of your fetus and then

you come in 24 hours later yeah in someone called them they have to show you like a video of your fetus and then you come in 24 hours later to try to get people to... Someone called them... They have to make you hold another baby? In Israel, you have to get an abortion. You actually have to go

to like a tribunal and just put your case for why you want an abortion. Oh. Where is that? In Israel. They pretty much always grant them.

But the idea is the fact that you have to like... I was joking because it would be funny if there's like a thing called like abort court and you got to go in there be like funny if there's like a thing called like abort court and you got to go in there, you know,

it's like, there's like a judge Wapner kind of guy and you go, all right, say your case, but you have to really, and there's like the best abortion lawyer that I've never fucking lost. Like everyone, don't worry.

That thing will be out of you. No problem. And, uh, but then you have to actually go in and give like your case of why you want an abortion and doing that. And doing that makes people not want to do that but if you really want it then you and you need it you will and whatever and then they'll

give it to you it's like the cheat sheet that uh high school teachers will sometimes trick you into saying like you can make one cheat sheet for the test yeah yeah and then every kid's got like a jeweler's loop well i was gonna say usually what happened was in the process of making the cheat sheet you'd realize when you go to take the test oh fuck like me actually learning the material to write down actually i don't need to write down actually yeah I just do the test right yeah yeah they do it was like you have to punch a baby and it's like why do you punch a baby like well you're killing one wife it's punching one this is bring out the baby it shouldn't be a problem for you should it the dramatic

like fucking real the reality TV music yeah facing facing down the kid. goes all black and white. I've spotted it. You would end up getting some people that are way too enthusiastic about it though. Like somebody's like winding up. Yeah,

he's like wrapping the hands. One woman, she's in excruciating mental agony. She finally decides to do it and then she's face to face.

They bring out the baby and there's two of them and she's like, what? And they're like, you're pregnant with twins. You've got to face. They bring out the baby and there's two of them and she's like, what? And they're like, you're pregnant with twins. You've got to punch. You have to roundhouse kick

and get both of the babies in one shot. Chuck Norris style. Oh man. You have to be the one pulling the trigger to fucking make it happen. Jesus.

It's like, or the enthusiastic girl, it's like when they used to do Maury Povich and their dad's doing backflips. The girl, you won your abortion case. Woo! She's doing the worm on the pregnant belly.

I think the retributive side could be funny for very liberal states. If they started doing abort court, they should have some sort of like... If you're pregnant, well, for three months, we're going to put like a screaming, crying set of like fucking Sony speakers throughout your house so that you can understand when you have the kid what it's going to be like and then there's a

three-month process of them like every four hours being woken up and it's like just make it you don't want to commit an abortion do you because you can the options here whatever and then that would be the liberal state's way of getting back they rig up your yeah they rig up your mattress like just some guy will come in and randomly shit in like the bed or something just to like fuck with you like oh your baby's diaper leaked, I guess. Better clean it up. You're having sex with your chick. Did she just come in and kick you?

Some dude crawls into bed with you. I was saying all that stuff on stage last night. Start sneaking in mass gainers into your food. Like, wow, you're 50 pounds heavier. Husband's not looking at you too hot anymore. Are you ready to fight for child support and have postpartum at the same time? I don't know. I was saying on stage yesterday, I was going hard on the abortion stuff,

and I was like, big win for us today, right? In, like, the Comedy Cellar in New York. And everyone's like, what? And I was like, whoa, sorry, you guys aren't on the side of. Oh, Jesus. And then I was saying, you guys, no matter what you think, you probably agree that there was one, like, abortion doctor who got in the game because he really hates babies. Like like he was on a plane and a baby wouldn't stop crying and he was going to

be a normal doctor and then he lands and he goes i'm changing my major at least one it was that and then one trans doctor that cuts off the the dicks that like just as a feminist that hates men so they're like there's this new new job that got opened up where you just cut their dicks off all day long Jesus wear them on your neck like a warlord hey but from a okay so from a marketing perspective I've when I argue with anyone about this and it's like even people I agree with it's like hard to like it's one I almost like we're not talking to girls about this, and it's like even people I agree with, it's like hard to, like it's one, I almost, like we're not talking to girls. And the idea that it's like, okay, so if you live in New York, they'll be like, well, this doesn't affect you.

And I'm like, yeah, it also doesn't affect you. So, like, we're both talking about hypotheticals. I did find it odd that most of the protests were, like that you saw yesterday, were in states that weren't affected. Yeah, well, I mean, it makes sense, right? Because this is probably the most overwhelmingly anti-abortion state. So the state legislature is already going to have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was just like, I thought, you know, maybe,

like I went to look on Twitter, like what's going on in, say, like Louisiana. Like we were just in St. Louis. Well, a lot of the people there agree. Well, I know that. And you go and look and it's a pretty small, like they're like. Sure, I mean, that's kind of, I mean, like, I mean, the states that were probably the most against slavery were the northern states that didn't have slaves right that's a good point yeah yeah but i mean uh yeah i mean i guess people think it's a federal issue

there's going to be a lot of people that do disagree that you probably i'm going to take a guess here you probably don't want to be the girl going out in louisiana or alabama protesting for pro-choice probably not a good look well i was like it was in new orleans which i think new orleans is probably a fairly like liberal city that, I was like, it was in New Orleans, which I think New Orleans is probably a fairly liberal city. That's true, yeah. Right? And I was like, that's what I was looking at. Yeah, exactly.

So you expect New Orleans is going to have a pretty good turnout for a pro-choice rally. And I looked, and it was pretty small. Wouldn't you, just from a marketing perspective, if they said, because even when you've heard girls be like- What, do you have a business you're trying to start? I honestly even argue with people for a day straight. And it was like the idea that you go,

okay, this has nothing to do with men or whatever. If this was a man's issue, abortion would be legal everywhere. And we go, well, then make it a man's issue. It's like then start saying that this is a man's issue. And then it's just bad marketing to say that it's a woman's issue. It doesn't affect you. It's like, okay, well, then I guess it doesn't affect you it's like okay well then I guess it doesn't affect me

yeah that's a good point see how many people got pregnant on Roe v. Wade day who are going to have different opinions when they find out

their girlfriend is pregnant and can't get an abortion that's what I mean but do you think it's a men's issue at all I think it's I think it's I think it's a really silly framing

I think every issue of the United States is every person's issue right yeah like technically like you know silly framing yeah yeah think every issue of the United States is every person's issue, right? Yeah. Like technically like, you know. Silly framing, yeah.

Yeah, like discrimination isn't like, like as a white guy, like very few things are like my issue that are like highly contentious in the United States. Very few things

that people living in New York, any of their issues, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I mean, we're all kind of like bought into this project of democracy

so we all have to participate even in things that don't directly affect us is kind of the buy-in for us. Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah, that's a good way. Also, women hate being told what they can't do. Okay, if you got a girl pregnant, she would have to get the abortion.

But if you were in a state that didn't have one, for example, and you wanted to get one, right? That's obviously a problem. You would be the one paying for it, by the way. Playing for the flights? Yeah, so it's like for them, the only difference is they'd have to be on a travel yeah for you it'd be like you'd pay for more of course i mean i would be very invested if i didn't want a child into making this happen yeah god i just i have the biggest i wish i was

like a hot girl that just fucks celebrities and then blackmail them for abortions there's got to be somebody that does this hell yeah i mean the famous is paul george he used to place for the clippers he knocked up a stripper and he straight up offered her a million dollars cash to have an abortion. And she's just like, no, because child support for eight years. Last contract was a quarter of a billion dollars. So pass on that million. So what actually happens now? Because you probably know more about this stuff.

It's like basically they kicked it to the States. Kicked it to the States. So what actually happens now? Because you probably know more about this stuff than us. Basically, they... Basically, they kicked it to the states. Kicked it to the states. So now all the states get to decide what they want to do. Do you think that should be a federal thing? So there's two sides to this. There's a moral argument, and then there's the legal argument. The legal argument is a bit more complicated.

Morally, I think at least first, second trimester abortion should probably, at least first trimester abortion should probably be available. Seems to be pretty standard across the world. Pretty hard to defend, like, I think the clump of cells in trimester one. I don't know if you saw the guy that went on to debate Charlie Kirk. He brought the big poster with the embryo. It was a poster, yeah, and he was like, do you really think this is a human? And Charlie Kirk was like, with every fiber of my being and it wasn't it was a fucking dolphin they like trolled

yeah and then yeah and you see the awkwardness like okay well fuck um legally i think that legally the the argument is roe v wade and and casey absolutely should have stood um but the the legal arguments basically have to do with this this concept of like what is the supreme court's job and it's probably not the job of the supreme court to be digging back and undoing rulings like The legal arguments basically have to do with this concept of like what is the Supreme Court's job? And it's probably not the job of the Supreme Court to be digging back and undoing rulings like 40, 50 years ago over and over again. Well, this is what they were like, hey, the Republicans have been trying to do this forever. Now we can, right? Yeah, but like the issue is that probably I think once the Supreme Court has made especially like watershed decisions that have been reaffirmed and other cases are like built off of, decisions that have been reaffirmed and other cases are like built off of,

you just get into this real weird world where it's like, is the Supreme court going to be undoing everything it's done over and over and over again. Every time the composition of the court changes, which is kind of strange, probably don't want that. Well, I guess, and I don't know like the actual legal terms,

but as the idea that they sort of put like, got this in there in a way that wasn't legitimate in the first place. Is that kind of like the argument? Yeah. So the, yeah. in there in a way that wasn't legitimate in the first place is that kind of like the argument yeah so the art yeah so the the actual support for roe v wade and and for the kcb point parenthood is legally it's very complicated there's a concept called substantive due process where you basically you kind of get rights from that aren't explicitly stated from other parts of the

constitution it's very complicated the ninth amendment before there's like a lot of weird things but i think that past that, there's this concept in law called stare decisis, which is basically like, this was the decision, it was made. You might disagree with it.

It might even maybe be a bad ruling, but so much has been built on it that at this point, the court as an institution just has to move forward. Because you get into a weird area where, so Clarence Thomas, one of the judges

that wrote a concurrent opinion with alito for why roe v wade should have been overturned was basically saying like i think we should also revisit a couple um agrafel i can't pronounce the name there are a couple other big same-sex marriage and the same-sex wasn't one of them interracial marriage and he's no not interracial it was same-sex marriage contraception yeah and sodomy laws yeah um so he better not take away my sodomy yeah which sodomy for those who don't know you're gonna see a fucking angry canadian people think sodomy is just anal sex but sodomy is technically any non i did think yeah sodomy

includes blowjobs so well i always think of it like the devil sodomizing sure but uh yeah that's probably just not that's there's a bunch of legal it's a lot of legal arguments probably not good to have the supreme court in the business but you could make the same argument to the way that gay marriage got in there it's the same way that this got in there um what do you mean make the same roe v wade like so because the people are saying they're going to come for you know gay marriage next or whatever but is that because they're they're in the they're in the constitution or whatever the exact same way kind of yeah basically well the idea, the idea is just that if you're willing to get rid of Roe v. Wade, then you're willing to revisit any decision that's been made. And then if you happen to disagree with those decisions,

are those on the chopping block now? What percentage of people don't support gay marriage? I want to say gay marriage is one of those foregone ones where I think most of the U.S. at this point is like, whatever. At this point, it's like, yeah. But I would have maybe thought that about this to some degree too i think abortion is really contentious and that was part of alito's opinion as he wrote that was that even 50 years later there are still states that are actively like 22 states that are trying to like yeah so i think that i don't i don't see

this gay people are kind of like the new white people of the lgbt people we're like yeah white gay white privilege yeah you've got like gay conservatives you've got like the dave rubin milo's a little out there but you've got like they're like okay gay people you made it you're in you're under the umbrella now um but the uh yeah i don't know the abortion thing is still highly highly contentious i don't hear and maybe i didn't miss it but i don't hear conservatives like rallying against gay marriage that much i do hear it against abortion that's like a single issue it's i mean yeah it's and it's never gone away do you think that it like sort of cashed in because i guess you know i think liberals lost a lot of cultural power in the last four years do you think they sort of cashed that in for this one big win does it feel like the

question is going to because we have very short-term memories when it comes to being mad about things so i'm curious if people will remember roe v wade going into these midterms but who knows in two in two weeks maybe there'll be another variant another war it is a probably a positive thing for i guess democrats in that sense because like one of the biggest problems with them always is they have like girl messaging where it's like 10 things at once at you and it's like it's it's way more powerful to be like this is my thing yeah you know what i mean from i mean we'll see if they were like we're the bring an abortion but like they at least have a thing yeah as opposed to being like hey it's this and trans people and this like 90 things i once

thrown at you there's a reason biden won the election and it was because people really hated trump yeah you got that kind of guy in a rally around yeah that's such it's it is an empowering thing for the democrats but it will they capitalize on it? I mean, will people still care in a few months? Hopefully, but who knows? Well, they were already posting a lot of like, you know what? We need to vote this back. Well, all you need to do is if you're in a red state, just vote the guy out and vote someone blue if you're in a red state.

And it's such a big issue. Like, that should be what happens, right? Yeah, we'll see. Do you think that'll happen? Maybe in one state i don't know but it's probably not gonna be a few states where it's popular yeah most people agree with the anti-abortion thing and like you know i'm sure in louisiana or something like most people are anti-abortion so then they're not going to vote the guy out all right well then so the

next one was like to me i guess that's the main issue but the one that really kind of flipped people where they were like sick of all the stuff was the trans sports one, right? Wasn't that one of the main ones that you argued with? Yeah, again, just like a super loser issue. It is a loser issue. Most trans people don't care about the trans sports thing. Most trans people just want to live life.

I mean, nobody cares about women's sports. Yeah, but it does seem like a weird thing to be like, I'm like as a guy, and then you're like, I want to be a girl. And then you're like, but I still want to be a weightlifter. Like, it just seems like probably very uncommon. Yeah, it's definitely a niche issue. I think there are good arguments for trans people to participate in sports at like the grade school, high school level.

It's a boutique issue. Yeah, grade school for sure. Yeah, because like this is, it's not about like being ultra competitive. It's like you do a social activity, get exercise, like bond with friends. It's probably good. NCAA stuff gets a little weirder, though, right? You're talking about a select number of spots that scholarships are given for. Scholarships, yeah, of course.

These competitions. And there's also a lot of recreational leagues outside of NCAA stuff. They can do what they want. But the valiant or the vicious fighting over the NCAA women's sports and trans stuff was just like, it's such an, it's like, have you ever heard of a TERF? Yeah. Oh,

okay. Yeah. It's like their boogeyman for so many years has been trans people are displacing women. And it's like, I don't think they want to displace women. But with the trans sports issue, you're really handing them that argument on a silver platter where I'm getting

into arguments. A lot of people are like, we should just abolish women's sports. It's like, damn dude, that's a pretty bad line to, to, to toe because you're legitimizing every single complaint they've ever had.

And even most trans people aren't going to look at you saying, like, a lot of trans women know that, like, yeah, of course, there are a lot of things that I carry from puberty. It's part of the reason why I hate myself so much. And people aren't passionate about women's sports enough to really, like, you're not going to get some huge. They'll be like, fine, get rid of them then. I don't know. Yeah, it's not just a bad. Fine, get rid of them. And then the only thing. Yeah, it's not just a bad. Fine, get rid of them. And then the only people who lose out are women who want to do sports.

No, but that was such the linchpin where you're just like, even people that sort of weren't paying attention. It was like, okay, well, I'm not like saying that. And they're like, well, if you don't say that, you're out. You're going, I guess I'm out. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Which sucks.

Yeah. Yeah, it sucks. Do you think the economy is like, I don't know. We've been going back and forth on this. The economy's fucked, okay? I know it's fucked, but do you think, like, four years fucked? I just went to go buy iced coffee at a place down the street, and I go, can I get a little less ice?

And they go, that's going to cost more money. So if you want to know the state of the fucking economy right now, it's bad. That is pretty wild. That's crazy. I go, can I get a little, and I didn't even go no ice. And you were just saying, I'm not letting you do your scam that you do. I just don't like, it's bad that is pretty wild that's crazy i go can i get a lit and i didn't even go no ice and you were just saying i'm not letting you do your scam that you do i just don't like it just too much ice i'll go i just like a little less ice and she goes okay just so you know that costs more and i go that's insane considering it was a five dollar coffee to begin with how

much more do they want 50 cents that's fucking nuts that's just it's we're in we're in bad did you lose a lot of money yeah every day yeah you gotta be no fuck no no i'm smarter than that i don't know i just feel like internet streamer dudes are all yeah they all are yeah but they're also losing money i have so many people trying to probably sell projects where they go hey like here's my coin oh yeah of course he'll give you like four billion of them if you just pump it can we you have to do a lot of just on the topic of scams you're gonna do a lot of research more than i've done for any debate you do a lot of research on getting into fucking manhattan without getting fucking scammed by taxi people really i feel

like every time i've gotten no the time you do a lift or uber i should but i always hear such good things about like no no no they don't scam you at all here the only times you're gonna get scammed in new york city is when you go to like if you're at the airport and you're like leaving the airport and then they're in the terminal like trying to be like hey i grabbed you go hey do you want to ride those are scammed and there's signs everywhere that says don't but you just go yeah i just walk outside and there's a line for taxis first time i came here guy did that to me he's like oh do you need a ride and it's like oh yeah sure whatever and i walked through and then i realized when i'm in this vehicle i'm like unmarked vehicle no meter no meter i think i'm man i start googling in the

back seat i'm like new york taxi scam center it's like oh these people it's like okay well you know what fuck me a ride from i think jfk to manhattan is supposed to be like 50 bucks 50 dollars okay um so i'm fuck it the guy's probably gonna i'm i got money out whatever i pay him we get to the hotel and this motherfucker pulls out a list and he's like, oh, $264. Yeah, be like, hey, how about I give you $20 or you can call the police.

That's the thing. If you know what you're doing, go, you know what? Actually, I feel like giving you $20 and if you have an issue, let's call the cops. I think I gave him $80

and then I was like, this is all I have. I'm sorry. Here's the thing though. It's like New York, but it's not unique to New York. It's unique to any city that has tourists

because I've been scammed so many times. Dude, I was in Hanoi in Vietnam, and they have actual metered taxis there that are scams with meters. And so you're in the back. Yeah, they got the fucking... Dude, you're in the back. And I remember, because I realized that... Because they say...

This was like in 2007, and I remember reading. They're like, don't get into like and we got in one not realizing it and then you're looking at the meter and it's going like this and it just goes like

like so fast like you're looking at it and it just like jumps like so fast like it goes from like five dollars to like twenty like that like instantly

you're like what the fuck was that but in Vietnam I was like I'm not not fucking we got scammed by like when we were leaving the airport from a taxi driver.

In Columbus. Yeah. We were just like, okay, we'll catch a taxi, but like Uber's 80 bucks, so if you want to do it around there or whatever. The guy was like, no, no, it's 160 right now. And I'm like, yeah, it's on my phone. Here it is. Like, just they're going to be 10 minutes, so if you want to take us now,

you can be five bucks more. And the guy was like, no, that's crazy. It's not that And I was just like Are you mental? Yeah I'm looking at it Well because I know

That if they wait long enough They'll get $160 Well and yeah And people just don't I think he did I think I did So here's one that I couldn't figure out And I paid the guy

And I tipped him So I'm trying to figure out If I got scammed last night You tip? Am I not supposed to tip? Tipping on a To getting Tipping on a scam

While you're getting scammed Well because I didn't know If I was getting scammed or not So I wasn't sure So I was like Well I'll be the polite thing Tip? Am I not supposed to tip? Tipping on a scam? While you're getting scammed? Well, because I didn't know if I was getting scammed or not, so I wasn't sure. So I was like, well, I'll be the polite thing, okay? So I got in. So from JFK to Manhattan, he said, we do flat rate, okay? And I'm like, oh, fuck. Maybe they flat rate because there's no traffic and he doesn't want to get fucked. So he flat rated me for $80.

No, it's $50. That's fine. No, flat rate from JFK. No, it's literally. JFK can be like an hour drive. It was about a 40. It was like a 40 minute drive. If you look on actual taxis. Dude, that's's $50. That's fine. No, flowery from JFK. No, it's literally... JFK can be like an hour dry. It was about a 40... It was like a 40-minute drive. If you look on actual taxis,

they have a card. Well, I've spent $120. Yeah, you get scammed nonstop. What are you talking about? Yeah, obviously. Okay, everyone is constantly... It's a fucking table of rubes. Dude, there's a table of rubes right here.

Yes, you get scammed all the time, right? Dude, the story you just told about getting scammed in Columbus, the guy goesammed all the time, right? Dude, the story you just told about getting scammed in Columbus, the guy goes 160 and then you're like, fine. Yeah, I'm telling the story

like I didn't pay. Yeah, you're like, you didn't pay. I still took the scam. Okay, well, fuck me. Whatever. I got scammed worse than probably anybody ever

when I was in China. I went and... What did a girl got a guy? Yeah, hey. No, me and my girl at the time we were walking around in the um forbidden city or whatever and this couple comes up to us and they're like hey can we like practice our uh

english they're a chinese couple they go like we're trying to practice our english there's a cool we walk around with you and we're like yeah sure they're like you know our age and and we're in our 20s at this point and we're like walking around and then they go hey have you ever uh been a you know what a chinese ceremonial tea ceremony is? Like a traditional Chinese tea ceremony? I'm like, no, we never had it. She's like, oh, you should come do it. It's the best, right? So then we go up to this room and there's this woman.

I have a photo of it. And they're pouring us these shots of tea. And there's little nuts or whatever. And we're with this couple and we're doing it. And then they're like, do you want more tea? And then at this point I go, oh, we probably have to pay for this right like i didn't even think yeah right and i go oh this is like they're not doing this out of the kindness of their heart they're bringing us around we this is so we go we'll just take the bill and the bill comes and it was like twelve hundred

dollars us and we had like i think a hundred and i don't know i had a hundred and then the guy looks at me and he's like who's the guy's scamming me right now and he goes he looks me goes uh he goes he hands me i go i don't have this much money he goes you want to split it i'm like right he tries to split it and then we basically were like and they brought out the thing and they itemized each nut we ate like it was like they were stop it dude it was crazy and then i remember i think we ended up giving like 150 dollars it was all we had and the craziest part is so we're leaving and i'm just like they totally scammed us. But they're not admitting they scammed us.

They're just like, we just did this thing. And the guy was acting like he covered my portion. So then we all leave together. And then we leave. And the guy's like, you want to go grab lunch? I was like, get the fuck out of here. Beat it. I go, I don't have any money left to buy you lunch buddy beat it ginaman they actually was

like you want to go by go get lunch i was like you just scammed me and the best was we were in a mcdonald's at like three in the morning like a week later and there's these guys behind us and they're from like utah because we heard them speaking like english like american english whatever and then we started shooting the shit and then the guy like i don't know what we were talking about but the guy goes hey I got a question for you. He's like, did you? And I go, Chinese tea scam. He goes, yes.

He goes, yes, exactly. And he's like, they got me for thousands. Thousands? Yeah, because they were like older dudes. And they had money. And they were just like, because what do you do? You're like, you think the police are going to come? And it's China.

And it's Beijing. You don't know. Jesus. But do you think the next four years are going to come and it's China and it's Beijing. You don't know. Jesus. But do you think that the next four years are going to be brutal? I know all them guys were kind of saying that. Do you think next four years is going to be like real bad economy stuff or do you think it's overblown? I've given up trying to make any predictions more than a year out on certain things. There are ways that – I mean like economists are still debating like what even is the cause of inflation or how much is contributing to what um there are ways that we could probably come out

okay there are ways that it could be like a really bad recession I mean just increase oil supply that's like almost not I don't want to be like flippant and say problem solved but in the 70s I was like reading this thing but in the 70s they had really bad inflation and then they obviously like raised interest rates a ton but a big thing that they did was they just made it easier to just bring more supply of oil online and that's like the biggest factor yeah i think that oh god there's going to be economists that are going to destroy me if i can try to understand this so i think the issue that you're running into is oil companies ran into this very weird problem where there was this kind of like increase there's a big increase in supply and kind of a little bit of slumping demand where they were starting to lose a ton of money yeah the oil that

they were producing yeah they stopped drilling new wells and stuff and now the scary part is is that if we give them money or if we say hey you can go drill there they're gonna be like oh my god like thanks but they're not going to drill because they're just basically reinvesting the money they have they're floating on the supply they have because the price are really high right now so they're doing okay and they're like they're not going to drill more why the fuck do they want to like like they're fine well they don't have to be forced to yeah the problem is too is that like okay say they do it they start going because we have actually when it comes to shale oil i think the united states is the i think the largest proven

reserves in the world but then if opec starts to like it massively increase their production i mean now it's unprofitable and like yeah that's the thing with with uh like aramco or whatever the biggest company in the world but like their oil is right under the ground. It's so cheap for them to get out of their own process, whereas here it's way, way under the ground. And yeah, they're a literal cartel. They could just flood the market with oil. But if you're trying to keep prices elevated or you're trying to lower prices, then you're like, sure, let them flood the market if they want to do that. That still solves this problem.

Yeah. And then there's also like complicated things that we've shifted a lot of our spending around. So we saved a lot of money and we made a lot of money during the pandemic. Fake money. Well, it's money, money. The numbers and counts grew. There was a lot of stimulus. We had two decent sized checks.

There was a ton of expanded unemployment insurance. There were a lot of people saving historic amounts of money because they weren't going out. They weren't spending money on services. And then you had a lot of money that buoyed a lot of employees with the Payment Protection Program, the PPP. The United States gave more stimulus than I think almost any other country in the world. Oh, by far. There was a ton. People will say that we didn't do anything, but we did a ton.

People say they didn't do anything in America? Yeah. There's people right now typing in the comments like, Desti doesn't know anything about the working class family. Unemployment insurance was wild. There were a lot of people making more money on unemployment than they did on working. Dude, I know multiple people that are like, yo, I got my rent paid for, I'm getting money, and I'm still doing my job.

So you have this weird world where... You know the amount of people who are doing two jobs right now? Have you heard of this? Oh, the double work from home stuff? Yeah, because people work from home. So they go, I work for Google and I work for Facebook. And neither of you allowed... I mean, if you can do two jobs right now. Have you heard of this? Oh, the double work from home stuff? Yeah, because people work from home. So they go, I work for Google and I work for Facebook. And neither be allowed.

Like, I mean, if you can do two jobs. You can do two jobs. Well, you could only do that remotely before, though. But if you're capable of it, like, you know, like if you hire someone to do something and they do it in less time, like, what the fuck do you care?

Well, the problem is, I think sometimes you might be working at a competitor. Hey, fuck it. Hey, listen. These people all work for like two years. They get their investment and they fucking leave anyway. But the issue too is that like we saved all this money and then now we're spending money kind of in different ways before.

We spend a lot less on services now because a lot of people are doing work from home. They're not driving into cities. They're not getting lunch and shit. So we're buying more like goods versus services. So that's putting a bigger strain on like shipping and everything. Like we can't like ship in as much because we saved all this money. We're spending a ton of saved money. we're spending all this money on like goods that we normally didn't buy that much of and like everything is just like ramping up everything and

it was impossible to predict like you know when amazon took off and then amazon's like look we have to buy more warehouses hire all these new people and then they're like oh that was only temporary actually so now we have to lay off all these people because that was because we couldn't not hire them there are layoffs but our target is like a big one people will complain about like employment but employment if you're an employee in the united states you're probably in one of like the best times to be ever yeah because like employment is less than four percent yeah it should be at around five because you want people like moving between jobs yeah employment is really low um you've got like tons of wages are man i don't know if you guys, I drive around in Nebraska

is where I'm from and I'll see Burger King hiring for like 14 an hour and shit. I'm like, 14 an hour? Oh, everywhere is insane. But wouldn't a big part of that be that a lot of people aren't in the workforce?

A lot of people are like, yo, I'm not even looking for a job. No, no, no. People will say this. This is not true. There's two different numbers. It's called the U3 unemployment and the U6. The U3 unemployment doesn't include discouraged

workers. The U6 does. Now, whenever people want to make a political point, they'll say, well, look at the U6. It's way behind the U3. But these numbers have always tracked. Like, there are some people that aren't looking, but for the most part, they always follow each other. There were a lot of people who took... I'm just saying, personally, I feel like I know that, like, people that are just like, yeah, I mean, obviously... But they're not discouraged

because they can't find work. If you want to find a job today you yeah absolutely yeah but they don't but but that's not but that doesn't that's not because the economy is bad they just don't want to work it used to be discouraged was like i apply 200 places i get 200 no yeah now it's like yeah you apply 200 places and a hundred of them are wanting to hire you you're not discouraged yeah work people and also tons of people took early retirement. So, and then, you know, a million people died. I don't know how many of those were working,

but there's some open jobs. Some of those have got to work at Burger King. Yeah. So it's weird. So this is all this pressure is pushing wages up.

People are spending money in ways they haven't before. Cost of energy is like a bunch of really bad shit is all. Well, it's just unprecedented. This group of things happening at once. Like nobody tired of hearing that. Okay. I'm well, it's, it's just unprecedented. This, this group of things happening at once,

like nobody tired of hearing that. Okay. I'm 33. I don't know how you guys, I feel like I've lived through like three or four unprecedented things. Well, I don't know. I've never,

I've never, I've never, I've never lived. 9-11 was pretty unprecedented. The 2007 historic stock market crash was like unprecedented. The 2007, 2008 shit. Well,

the 2008, the great financial crisis was, was not, I don't know if it was unprecedented it was wild i just ended the job market they found the excuse yeah yeah there are no more pensions yeah you know what a pension is yeah of course okay i know about it because my mom and grandpa talked about i don't i've never seen a pension in my fucking life after like i was like i know the job market of 2007 like that was definitely crazy because the world was on kind of

the brink but this is more so just like every one of these factors at once yeah like i i've never lived through inflation like i probably none of us have the last time there was been great even since 2007 the markets have been like 10 50 20 year over year over year yeah but i i remember like i remember thinking like when they were talking about and you're like there just hasn't been any inflation in my life like there hasn't or just your standard amount uh yeah or, or it would be certain things, like maybe real estate, there'd be inflation. But there's never been price inflation, which is, I guess, what the Fed is their point,

is that they keep inflation and employment at certain levels. They try to, yeah. That's their mandate. Driving by gas stations, seeing like $7 per gas. I don't drive anymore. That's wild. That's pretty scary. I don't care now because I'm rich.

But if I was still working, back in my carbon cleaner days, yeah, $7. And I'm sure even in Nebraska, it's probably like $6. You know what's funny though? When we lived, we were both from Toronto

and like when we lived in Toronto before I moved here three years ago, gas was, what was it? A dollar, five Canadian a gallon, which is probably $4 a gallon, which is like,

you know, people like, it was not, I mean, obviously $7 a gallon is insane, but like gas prices have always been so high in canada like right now i think it's ten dollars or more a gallon in vancouver canadian like and but they've always been super high america's had super cheap america has the rest of the world yeah we always do yeah um one thing that we wanted to switch is to um because you well obviously uh streaming 10 hours a day is probably better than doing a carpet cleaning job but for sure yeah with like uh do you consider yourself like an actual debater or is this just like you just

became that on the internet like were you into like debate tactics and like the theory of it and all that argumentative little shit like my whole life like i like in high school i like argue with people it was just it's always like a fun thing for me yeah but my point was more like do you read the books and you're are you are you able to be like yo these are the common things that people fuck up with like that to look for when you're arguing with people if you're like average you're like oh big if you're like an average you know person arguing with his chick like what are the biggest things that people you know what I mean? I mean I know them now through experience because I have read them now but like getting

into it initially it wasn't like I'm going to study like the logos pathos ethos rhetoric I've got it all like under my like initially it was just me screaming at people on the internet and then we did that for a while I feel like a lot of the when I was watching like debates I feel like a lot of the times when I'm like i don't like someone that's a debater it's they do almost what comics

do where it's like you take you know you'll take someone's logic and then bring it to like a funny conclusion but somewhere in there you got them to agree to something that they didn't agree to you know what i mean and it's kind of like there was 10 things in there and the person unless they're really good at debating they're're just like, no, you premise something that I don't agree with in there. I feel like that's the most like dishonest trick that people do all the time, which is like funny and comedy. But, you know. Yeah, I mean, it would depend on how it's used, I think. I don't think that it's necessarily bad to extract like somebody's like general logic or something.

No, you add one in that they agree. Yeah, you can be dishonest with it for sure the ones i usually give advice people to stay away from is if you're trying to have like a like a good conversation like avoid philosophy and debate like terms don't ever like name the fallacy in front of somebody like if somebody's like oh like you know people do that a lot yeah like that was a non-sequitur fallacy or you just did an ad hominem attack or fallacious appeal to like don't ever like just like speak in normal words like hey I don't know if just citing Dr. Phil is who you want to go for when

we're arguing about brain surgery you know like yeah probably not the guy to go to right you can say that and be a human or people get into like very esoteric philosophical terms like I think your meta ethical position is void and it's like nobody like nobody's following you know you're just trying to like jerk off I guess you can do that but you're losing everybody

in the conversation yeah what's a meta-ethical position? In ethics, meta-ethics is the highest branch of studying what is good. So it's the most abstract form of ethics. So you might have a theological meta-ethical position where goodness is what God says, or you might be like, yeah there's yeah whatever however you define that but is yeah i was kind of arguing with someone like a little bit the other day like is ethics and morals the same thing kind of like there's like lame like in philosophy you would talk about so you've got like meta-ethics normative

ethics applied ethics you might say like an ethical or moral statement but to like a layman like ethics and morals are the same thing yeah yeah well then to me i was arguing that they were so yeah they're more or less a layman so yeah you it's like one of those things where you might draw like a distinction somewhere but you need to tell the person you are otherwise you're just going to be like shouting past each other i feel like the biggest one that that would like always debate is like you know people take ethical positions that are, like, what's more ethical? I guess, like, taking a position where it'd be like, you know, I don't

care whatever anyone does as long as, you know, I keep my family safe or like, you know, I have these, but if you mess with my friend, like that, or, you know, I'm doing this for the greater good of society and I don't care if it hurts my family. Like, which one of those two is more ethical? Is that like a philosophical debate? Yeah, it could. I mean, yeah, it'd my family. Like which one of those two is more ethical? Is that like a philosophical debate?

Yeah, it could. I mean, yeah, it'd be an ethics debate, right? Yeah. But you don't know which philosophers did which positions? What do you mean by that? Like what's, has that been like a big debate in philosophy? Because I feel like in my personal life, that's a huge debate always. Maybe, yeah.

So like there's a, so the middle part of ethics is called normative ethics. And I think that's largely branched into three different things so in one you've got deontology so like kant is known for this where you basically are talking about like certain actions are actions are in and of themselves good actions you know almost irrespective of the circumstance like don't lie don't cheat those things like this um then you've got like uh consequentialism which is where we only evaluate based on the outcome, whether or not an action was good or bad. So like,

if you ever heard somebody like utilitarianism, it's under consequences. I think I agree with that one a bit more. Maybe. Then you've got one called virtue ethics, which is like, you should just try to live or aspire to certain virtues. But the,

the, the problem that I find when it comes to normative, normative ethics, depending on the questions you ask, a lot of these things will start to like, kind of blend together in certain ways. What's an example? Yeah, so like for instance,

a classic challenge to like a Kantian person or whatever would be like a Nazi shows up at your door and he asks you, do you have any Jews hiding in your basement?

And it's like, well, deontologically, lying would be immoral, but like do you really tell him the truth and then the people downstairs get killed? Yeah, no.

Yeah, but so then, so people will- I mean in my case, yes, that's my attitude. People people try to write like very complicated i'm the guard in the scenario yeah exactly people try to write very complicated like escapes from that but then it almost sounds like you're evaluating by consequence and not action right so it's like well is it really so and then on the other end you might look at like motive you might like a motive more than you know to some degree people do yeah maybe yeah on the other end you look at like consequentialism and somebody was like oh like um is it okay to kill one person to save four people and you know a strict consequentialist might say like well yeah of course it is like four lives

for one is always going to be what if it's your son maybe or even more than that that was actually the one of the ones i was arguing about oh sure yeah sure isn't that the whole thing with the self-driving cars is that they have to make oh making those decisions well they have to make that decision where like self-driving cars are driving you along and then they see a fucking four kids or drive you off a bridge and then they drive you off a bridge yeah and people are like well i don't want to buy a car that drives me off a bridge maybe yeah i'm like i because if i was in control i would kill those four kids and save my life or at least i have the choice well yeah i don't want to kill myself

because of the self-driving cars. It is kind of messed up. It is. But like, again, how do you program the car? Just plow through a crowd? If you universalize... I guess you could stop. Yeah.

One option. If you take that concept, like saving one life versus four, though, you could wind up in a world weird world where say nobody ever wants to go to a hospital because if i go to a hospital and there's like four people show up and they all need organs and i'm in the hospital for like a routine surgery are they going to kill me to take my order well yeah that does take place i mean that's what be like a where liberty argument i guess comes in maybe yeah but then liberty that's not a

consequentialist thing that's like a virtue or something else right so that's right so i think that all of the they all get like really hazy like anybody that's like not a consequentialist thing. That's like a virtue or something else, right? So I think that all of the, they all get like really hazy. Like anybody that's like a strict consequentialist, you could push them on something. Or it's like, would you really do this? Would you be willing this good? Or anybody that's strictly like, well, actions are good or bad, just don't think about it.

It's like, there's no such thing as a white lie or whatever. So it all gets like really hazy. Right, because you're like, you shouldn't infringe on someone's stuff. But it's like, okay, maybe what if you don't have to kill them? What if you just had to cut off their finger and it would save people? And it was like, well, so why are you allowed to do that? And if you're like, okay, maybe what if you don't have to kill them? What if you just had to cut off their finger and it would save people? And it was like, well, so why are you allowed to do that? And if you're like, oh, no, I wouldn't even cut off the tip of someone's finger to save a hundred people. It's like, really?

Yeah. Or a million people or, you know. Yeah, yeah. Or what if it's everyone? Yeah. You brought up the, like, I just want to live my life and have freedom for my family. And conservatives would largely kind of argue with that. But now when they look at how society changes.

I wasn't saying that. But now when they look at how society changes. I wasn't saying that. I'm more saying like if you're saying that, oh, I'm going to kill, you know, your like friend or your girlfriend. Like, yeah, that obviously is different to me than five people I don't know. Oh, yeah. No, no. I was just saying the idea that like it seems like traditionally conservatives will say like we are all for freedom or whatever. Just don't mess with me, basically.

Right. Like as long as everybody can do it, be free to do what they want, but just don't infringe on my rights. But now like if all of the culture is changing around you and you're getting worried that that's going to like bleed in somehow so like with lgbt stuff right well if they're starting to teach that at schools like nobody's technically infringing on you personally but if the culture is all changing when you can start to feel that way and then the arguments change maybe it's not enough to just say everybody can do their own thing like maybe we do need to have some control over other people it's like what a concern yeah of course yeah you're like every if everyone's going to be in this school and have to

learn all the same thing i feel like the the curriculum argument is a little wrong because you know when people like the truth is like obviously there is a curriculum and you're going to argue over what it is if we're going to teach kids that like that is especially in demography that was the virginia thing where but no i mean we're like this is one where it's not up to you what we teach your kids and they're like yes yeah so i kind of do uh agree i mean as long as there you know there's i would say that you know there is certain like sexual things where maybe there's yeah it's probably aggressive but there is also when you have a curriculum in different states like yeah you're going to there's always going to be like a rigorous debate. So it's like even when they take like a book out or whatever, like I'm obviously not like a cancel guy.

But when you're like, hey, we want this book removed or whatever, it's like I mean, there's always going to be debate about what kids are taught to some degree. Right. Yeah. To some extent. Yeah. It's just hopefully like the debate. It's just weird not to make it sounds dumb to not make it political because technically everything is political. Everything is. Yeah. But it gets weird when it's like, should we teach a certain author because he was gay? Maybe we shouldn't teach that author. And it's like, I don't know.

That seems kind of weird. Versus like, I can understand not wanting like second graders to learn about like surgeries for trans people. Like, that's probably fine. I feel like every time everyone says, let's not make it political, what they really mean is that like the premise includes what they are their political side yeah political is just code word for like thing i don't like to talk about or something basically yeah just do the just yeah submit what i agree with yeah do what i agree with don't make it political dude yeah exactly you're like just do what i want yeah how do you know what's okay so what's and like give me what's one more uh like big uh like uh one of the main things that people do wrong in debating?

So will the big thing... Basically, if you were to take these debating principles and use them for arguing with your girlfriend. Well, okay, sure. Yes, because girlfriends are always rational and easily debated with. I mean, there's a big carryover depending on what you do. I feel like he has good tips. Empathy is probably the most important thing lacking,

I think, in our current political discourse. If you were to stick a conservative or a liberal in a chair and then put a gun to their head and say, why is he thinking this thing? A lot of people would just die. They can't do it. They absolutely can't do it. So today you'll see a lot of conservatives saying like liberals just want to be able to like murder

babies and they just hate children or whatever like when it's like i don't think that's the case or liberals will say like conservatives want to just control women's lives like i don't think that's just the fun ones yeah um that that lack of empathy like understanding why people think the things they do nobody can do that anymore yeah that's the hugest thing that's going on right now i agree and i was like that's why you know a lot of people are saying that oh you know i mean i've always thought when it's like the left and the right you know a lot of people say like oh you know everyone needs to be able to talk to people that have different perspectives and then but it's like they don't

actually think that like they just think that at the moment like even okay say the abortion stuff it's like or when trump was in like none of those people wanted to talk to Trump people. And the same reason right now, like, I don't know, I was watching like what Matt Walsh was posting or whatever when the abortion stuff, right? And he was kind of saying like, you know, don't be shy to rub it in their faces. These are animals, like whatever.

It's like pre, stuff like that. And it was just like, but I feel like someone like that would be like, you know, oh, we can't have a conversation with people we don't disagree with. And it was like, well, yeah, obviously if like, that's like well yeah obviously if like yeah that's your starting point yeah but if you like if yeah exactly what kind of what destiny said where it's like if you think that that's why they think that yeah but yeah yeah i'm always like yeah but they don't think that that's not how

they see the world so i don't know if yeah the abortion one could ever really get settled other than i guess that i guess that that's where it is, where people were like, well, yeah, you had it your way, and then they were like, well, now we get to choose. I mean, more of the thing, too, at the end of the day, too, I really think if you pulled somehow every person on Earth, it is one of those things that would get pretty close to 50-50.

It's just one of those things. I think it depends on where you're asking. I think most people, I would say 60 plus would probably be okay with first trimester yeah i think so too yeah yeah second and third especially third is going to be highly contentious third is probably almost going to pull less than 50 even in like oh for sure yeah for sure for sure i mean again like i've talked to so many people about this and you know and it's again a lot of people go yeah like it's fine and then you go like

just when you start pushing then they go okay actually yeah at that point and generally it is third or even second late second depending on yeah yeah you're in florida right there's it's 50 because florida's odd because it's a red state but i guess it's a swing state right so it goes but there are what 15 weeks i think if i ever got anybody pregnant in florida we're taking a vacation so i don't know what the local laws are there. We're either taking a vacation to the state or a short trip down the stairs. Okay. Something is going to be not existing anymore.

You got to go to my clinic. All right. Who's your least favorite politician? My least favorite politician. Who's the most annoying? Well, most annoying, the least favorite might be two different people. annoying? Well, most annoying and least favorite might be two different people. Okay, yeah.

That's true. God, I hate Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz is annoying to you? He's pretty smug. And then he got the mullet, too. He's sort of like an elf factory, too, where it's like even all the stuff where Trump was like dummying him

and then he had to like suck up to him. It was kind of like... That seems like a... I don't know if I could do that. Some guy is ragging on my wife the way she looks like bro you imported some eastern european supermodel because you're a billionaire you're making fun of how my wife looks yeah and then he like he's such a as a half cuban person myself i think he's cuban his name is do you know what his first name is no it's not ted

rafael oh really he changed it why raf a sick name. No, it's an ethnic name. He's trying to get elected in Texas. Yeah, you want to be Ted. Yeah, I'm Ted. It's monosyllabic, very white. Did you ever see... What is it, Italian? I'm thinking Ninja Turtles, but is it...

What? Raphael? I thought he was Cuban, isn't he? Am I making that up? I'm not sure about his background. I thought his family was Cuban. I think he had... Wasn't he born in Canada or something? something probably maybe okay who's the most annoying liberal

politician um i will give her credit aoc's gotten a lot better she was annoying she was the easily the most activist annoying apolitical like had no idea but she's she's contradictory kind of or just like didn't understand any of the political processes like and anytime i'm very critical of people especially on the left that are screeching from like plus 45 blue districts who are never losing an election in the world trying to criticize like mansion and cinema who are like the only democrats that could hold these seats right yeah so yeah that's it really is that's what i've been watching you know in our industry it's like anyone that's like a you know comedian commentator person that lives in fucking New York and LA that has a lot to opinion. That's great for you.

It's the political equivalent of someone saying, like a millionaire being like, just fly to a different state to get an abortion. Mansion can't have the same positions that you have in your super safe seat. Yeah, the same reason why if you were like a conservative running and like liberal or in like New York, you got to have some pretty, you got to be way more middle of the road. You're not going to even mention your position on abortion.

That's just going to be like, what's your position on abortion? You go, honestly, I haven't thought of it. I don't like to talk about it. Talk about the economy. Okay. And is Biden going to win or lose?

Again, or'm making predictions. Or option three, still be alive. Still be alive. I don't know if two or three years out is so hard to predict. I kind of feel like if I could put, I need to figure, I don't think predictor is taking bets yet. If I could bet right now, I think Trump is going to be the next president again. Really?

I think DeSantis is slightly ahead of him. So this is my rationale. Slightly ahead of him on the predict mark. This is my rationale, okay? If things are continuing as they are, I don't think Biden is slightly ahead of him. So here, this is my rationale. Slightly ahead of him on the predict mark. This is my rationale. Okay. If things are continuing as they are, I don't think Biden's going to win again. I think it's going to be a Republican.

And then if it came down to DeSantis and Trump, here's the thing. DeSantis cares about the Republican party and his political future. Trump is an egomaniac who doesn't give a fuck. So if DeSantis is like, listen, dog, I'm going to run.

Trump would be like, that's cool for you. I'm going to run too. too i'm gonna do it independently and the republicans are fucked they're not they can't split that vote so like i think that trump given the chance to run he'll do it he's not gonna stand aside for somebody else and the republicans aren't gonna run somebody against trump because they're split they're absolutely 100 and honestly it'd be almost maybe bad for desantis where it's like he's obviously gonna get if anyone who runs republican right now and stuff like that's gonna get like torn up by you know the mainstream media or whatever but also he has to get torn up by Trump now you know what I mean which you might find that killer

nickname that sticks and it's like oh no he now we get the whole thing so well though DeSantis more like DeCant hit yeah Jesus and then it's all over yeah but um okay yeah that's what i yeah who knows but who knows anything can change like the world is insane where everything is so rapidly crazily changing and evolving constantly who knows maybe we'll have another covid variant by them that's targeting young people or something yeah all monkeypox yeah was that your so those are your the main things that i saw your argument was the the groom, the groomer stuff, the trans stuff probably. And then, um, there was, uh,

oh yeah. And then the N word, you kind of became like the N word guy. I did. Yeah. So, and that was why you were arguing with like a son biker and stuff. Like you have a whole lot of history with him,

right? It was a podcast with like three black guys on it. And he's like, I'm going to jump in. And I didn't even know that was going to be a topic. So they all came up out of nowhere for that one. But you were essentially on the side of like people should be able to like make jokes. Or was this something different?

This is like my where we've kind of moved at. Okay. I agree that some things can be problematic. But problematic doesn't mean bad. Right. Like there's a lot of really funny like racial or sexist or whatever humor that could be problematic. I mean, Louis has the biggest, best, you know, inward joke, yeah.

Absolutely, sure, yeah. Dave Chappelle is problematic. George Carlin was problematic, right? But, like, just because something is problematic doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. It just means you have to, like, engage with it in a responsible manner, right? Like, I'm probably not going to show, like,

a five-year-old, you know, like, a Dave Chappelle skit on, like, eating pussy or something, right? I'm probably not going to, right? There's going to be, like, appropriate ways to engage with it. And basically what I was saying is that, like, I think that whole thing started from somebody accused me of like would you

ever say the n-word in private it's like if i know a funny joke yeah sure like i don't personally but if i did yeah i would um but like the idea is just that like there's going to be types of humor that i think are appropriate to share on stream and then there's gonna be types of humor that i don't think are appropriate that would be more appropriate in a private setting because i know the people i have like more control over it yeah um and that's an audience when you like developed a rapport with them yeah exactly and like i know a lot of really funny sexist and racist jokes but like if i say these on stream all the time i'm going to turn my audience like racist i don't want to do that you know and there's people just popping and i'm sure a lot of people will be like i don't like this and

yeah yeah exactly it's not that thing yeah for Scream's not the venue for that. But his whole thing was, you know, saying that Cracker, he was saying that only slurs should be, that's not a slur, and you were like, it's obviously not as bad, but it is a slur, it's just not as bad. Yeah, it obviously is a slur. You're targeting someone's skin color. Yeah, you're like, does it hurt my feelings?

No, but yeah. Yeah, I didn't know this until I started fighting with leftists, but like, so like, Hasan will defend his whole chat calling me gusano, which is a slur for cuban people i didn't even know this was a real slur until and then but these people defend that saying well it's not racist it's because it has to do with the fact that some cubans were slave owners and it's like i don't

think my family had any fucking and you're saying this because of my background how is this not a slur yeah it is one of those things you're like, yeah, I'm just saying that's what the logic leads you. I'm not saying that necessarily I give a shit. Yeah. We simplify it. It's so weird because I remember like the 90s and the 2000s, it felt like we were expanding certain things a lot. And now we've like razor narrowed some of those same things. So like language, I think for a long time we were kind of advocating for like a little bit more of a nuanced understanding of like how language works. Like some things are probably bad and shouldn't maybe be said or only in certain contexts but then like maybe there could

be room for other things but now we've gone backwards and it's like everything that's problematic needs to go immediately did you follow because it got you know used it became a political tool right every yeah well everything is yeah did you watch the washington post thing with uh felicia sumnez i think yeah the whole, yeah. With Dave Weigel. He loved that. The guy retweeted it. Now, I will say on a verified WAPO account, retweeting that joke was pretty dumb.

He shouldn't have done that. Yeah, I mean, well, it's his personal account. You know what we were saying? It was his verified account. Oh, it was his verified account. But what happened, remember all the journalists always had retweets or not endorsements? Yeah, but that's like when you put a video on YouTube and you're like, no copyright infringement intended. That doesn't mean anything. Obviously, whatever you retweet is retweeted.

Yeah, let's check in the book. But again, I don't know what he was thinking considering their newsroom is mostly women and it's the Washington Post. And it was dumb. And honestly, I think he should have been reprimanded just for being stupid and retweeting an account. But that lady when she retweeted him,

nothing is mild today. You know that, right? That lady, when she retweeted him, she went for blood, dude. She retweeted him, had a statement of like, I don't feel comfortable working here as a woman. And I'm like, damn, dude, this is your fucking co-worker. And he defended her. He did a few years earlier.

A few years earlier when she got in a bunch of stuff. And depending on how hard you want to dig on her she was also involved in some bullshit rape accusation against another journalist like for I think in 2018 there was a guy whose entire life was destroyed because of two hookups hers being one of them where she came out and basically had a whole story

where they both got wasted and had sex and she's like dude her story is so funny it was like oh fuck I hope I'm not mixing hers up with the other story but i think they both got wasted they both hooked up and um i want to say that she left the apartment that night and then when she got back i'm starting to remember the other story but i think it was the other one another woman filed a rape accusation against him where he was on the bed and she was like i didn't want to do this and she got out of bed

and and he was like oh well are you sure and she was like i felt so pressured when he asked me that that i feel like i had to go back into bed and have sex with a guy i got in all this shit in canada for this but with the guy we know or we don't know about this guy his uh he got in the height of the me too stuff he had a girlfriend who straight up did this whole like medium post about how her boyfriend raped her because he won't, he was like, want to have sex. And she's like,

I'm not feeling really pretty. And he was kind of like pouting. And so he was pouting. Wait, who was this guy? Oh, you wouldn't know him. He's,

he's, he's a comedian from Montreal. Okay. Cause what you're describing is the exact same thing. But I'm saying, yeah, that's what I'm saying. He just like kind of got a pouty or whatever.

He goes, oh, he's like, you don't find me attractive. And she goes, and then, so I, I kind of like didn't want to have sex that night, but it's her boyfriend. Right. And I, cause I remember reading this and I was like, you don't find me attractive. And she goes, and then so I kind of like didn't want to have sex that night.

But it's her boyfriend. Right? Because I remember reading this and I was like, it was so shocking that she would call him out. And you're like, you know, you Google this guy's name. I made a video being like, he didn't rape you. That was his first cancellation. Yeah, that was my first cancellation. I go like, that's not a rape.

Because my whole thing was like, well, then I've been raped. Because I've definitely been on the receiving end of a girlfriend being like you know oh like what you don't everybody in everybody has that was my that is my point right and i go this is like so disgusting that she was like using this for some kind of weird clout and then it got to the point where she actually took his like because of me she removed his name from the article because and i was just like it's just like disgusting like and you know there's women who and And I had all these female comics messaging me privately being like,

yeah, thank you for doing this, but I can't support you. Of course, yeah. All this stuff. Which is almost more frustrating sometimes. I didn't care. Yeah, whatever.

I didn't care. The game's the game. I got in big trouble for a tweet because I think something akin to that, and I was basically saying if you want, you can be treated

like a retarded child, but that's essentially what you're asking men to do. You have no agency. Is that like, yeah, I'm i'm gonna walk you here i need to check with you do i need to call your parents to make sure everything is okay do you need a friend here to sign off on shit like it's ridiculous and not to mention like this is with guys who like no offense to men but a lot of men especially when they get horny are not thinking 100 straight they're trying to like land it you know they're trying to get what they can they're trying to figure shit out and now now

they have to be the ultimate arbiters of their own decision making which can be highly compromised at times yeah especially when we talk about alcohol horniness but now they have to be in charge of the other person too and she wants to be able to vote yeah like you gotta you gotta pick something you're like are you an adult that could carry yourself through life and figure out how you want to do or are you getting raped because a guy on a bed is making a pouty face at you and you feel bad walking away 100 i mean that debate women have for like for you know past several years been like go from like you know we should we have agency to we have no agency like they'll go depending on the argument they'll be like in this instance we have none in this instance we

have full agent like which one is it and i want i will say because akin to what you said i do think just personally based on the people i've talked to it does feel like the majority of women feel like these particular women are insane a hundred percent but they can't you can't put yourself in front of the train like that and be the woman that comes out because now you're like not in the height of that thing yeah not in the height of the me too stuff you're not going to be like yeah and even now because now you're basically what a rape apologist you just want to have guys like all that's what i am yeah and it's like it's horrible yeah and i feel i feel bad for the and i feel bad too for the women too that have like legitimately like horrible stories of which and we don't even talk about it anymore there are a lot of women with

really horrible stories about guys that especially in industry guys not in your well probably in your industry yes in our industry for sure yeah our industry's ground zero yeah okay i don't know yeah but yeah in mine as well like in all these industries and now and it's it's got to be so mind-fucking that you're a woman sitting here listening to another woman like crying on her medium post about like how her boyfriend even though she was tired really asked her for a blow job before sleep and it's like are you serious she's like i'm traumatized i don't trust any men and it's like you bitch like but it's also one of those things too were in the article she goes and I didn't realize that at the time. But I now realize that I was raped like two years later.

You're like, fuck off. I've invented a term. I hope psychologists pick it up. I call it retroactive trauma. Yeah, yeah. Where you're talking with friends and you get like hyped up and they're like, babe, you were raped. And you're like, are you sure? Yeah, 100%.

I was like, oh, my God. Was I? Yeah, you were absolutely raped. I was like, oh, my God. i need to write about this right now like and then i realized like two years later it was actually the most traumatizing event of my life what the fuck are you talking there was a comedian in toronto i don't know i don't know if you were there but it's just like an open mic comedian and she was on stage and she was like she was kind of a bit cooked i don't know something's going on there she was weird she was like very comedy

adjacent you'd see her like once like you know you see her once a year or something for like a week she would pop back into comedy do a set and she was on stage and she was talking about something like some something and someone she got off stage someone goes like you know that story you told like you were raped there and she was like what like and she didn't even she was just talking about like some guy was weird this is before the whole me too stuff and then she i remember like i can't remember the exact context of it but like she got off stage and everybody was like yeah that story you told it was like you were sexually assaulted and she's like oh i she and she didn't even care she was like oh i don't know to be clear i think that there can be cases

where it's valid if somebody starts saying things like yeah you know like it was you guys remember like how your uncles would fuck you when you were like absolutely yeah maybe you need to think about something there you know 100% but she she didn't even people told her and she goes oh I don't know when people tried there was do you ever did you guys ever hear about satanic sex cults there's

I know the like famous ones yeah there well well not no there was a whole thing I want to say in the 60s or the 90s I don't remember some way it was a whole thing, I want to say in the 60s or the 90s. I don't remember. It was a while ago. But basically, a bunch of therapist psychologists had gotten this idea that we think that all of these children and these babysitters are in this weird satanic sex cult stuff. And there was this huge craze where everybody was going to therapists. Their kid was in one.

And the research that came out afterwards is basically showing that you can fabricate memories if you believe strongly enough that something happened. Yeah, and if the parents are seedinging it and all of it was fake not there were no like for the kids and the baby like these big satanic cycle it was all just fostered memories from the um from the parents crazy so yeah that that retroactive like i think you were raped babe it's like i think my boyfriend was just kind of grumpy i don't know if i was right it's like no yeah i mean my main issue with it was that was i would have to then in that scenario accept that i've been raped multiple times and i'm just like no i'm not well people i'm not gonna be a rape apologist and survivor in the same thing like you can convince yourself of a lot though

yeah but yeah but how many girls are just you know people probably more of a girl thing be just like the ex-boyfriend there was like to convince themselves that like he was like the worst guy ever blah blah and you're like no that yeah that was a crappy relationship you both suck yeah but like yeah you need to think this to like and you're just like i've even been with girls where they're just like you know and my ex was this and this is like okay well i know you i'm pretty sure that you're i'm kind on his side of it on some of this yeah i'm currently dating you so i'm you're lucky that I'm not doing that. Anyway, okay, fuck yeah, dude. The sad thing about this is it's the same thing as the trans stuff we talked about,

the abortion stuff, to where I'm worried that we're about to swing back. The pendulum is going to swing back, but it's going to swing back too far. You're going to be in the same area where you're going to have women with legitimate complaints, legitimate grievances, legitimately horrible stories, who people are going to look at you like, oh, it's another one of those. Of course. Because so many people fuck it up for everybody. Will it swing back that far in like liberal places though? I think it's more, if anything, it seems like it's-

Schisming the country. Kind of. It's just breaking us apart more. Yeah, I felt like it was schisming the country and most of the people, because I feel like doing comedy is just like, you know, I always reference that, but it's like, it's such a good litmus test of,

if you're good at it, I feel like you say something and you can tell if everyone already thinks this or not. Right. And there was a time where you'd be like, people are out of control and everyone's like, well, they should be out of control, you know? And then there was a time where you'd be kind of saying things like, you know, this fucking like, you know, everyone's pretty wild right now. And everyone's like, oh, fuck you. Like, like everyone's so agree.

It's not worth saying it. My mom started sending me like a year ago, like oh fuck you like like everyone's so agree it's not worth saying it my mom started sending me like a year whatever like jordan peterson podcast being like you know who this guy is i go all right we're reaching reaching the end of this cycle when my mom's twitter guy yeah when my mom's starting sending me that stuff i go we're reaching the end of the cycle we're onto a new one yeah like in music it's like you always have you know metal is next after that is something soft, and hardcore rap is always like a Drake-y guy. It always goes back and forth.

But this one felt a little different where it felt like everyone was just, okay, we're done with metal and this, but maybe some of these issues are, and maybe that's just the election cycle too, and I'm wrong. Yeah, who knows? What do you think? Do you think that you feel like people are yelling at you more or less right now than three years ago? I wish I could remember it. I just read an article. But it's always hard because there's always a recentism to where you always feel like everybody through our whole history has been saying, like, this is the worst time politically.

Not in the 90s people weren't saying that, were they? Yes. Dude, people have been saying that all the doom and gloomers are always like, there's never been a worse time to be alive when it's objectively the best time to be alive. 90s was rap was starting to pick up men were starting to wear jewelry maybe more early 2000s the metrosexual stuff in the 2000s.

People didn't like that. I mean even Bowie was doing like the androgynous stuff this stuff's been going on forever. And 60s the Vietnam protests these kids are ruining America

the radical college kids. What was 2000? 2000s was I think I just thought of something. Hold on. 2000s was like the metrosexual stuff. People were really into that.

Gay stuff started to become more popular. And Will and Grace was getting on the scene. Okay, hold on. Actually, I have an important question. I just thought of this. I don't know why. I feel like in so many eras of American music, there's stuff that like, oh, yeah, like, you know,

60s, 70s, 80s, all the Rock Eyes, Journey, Eagles, 90s, the Nirvana, 2000s, like all the um rock guys journey eagles 90s the nirvana 2000s the like all the 2000s nickelback new battle yeah nickelback yeah the back obviously why why does nobody nobody remembers or plays any of the songs from the boy bands do they like girls do i've never met a modern day girl that plays like an end sync or a backstreet boy song these girls do do. Do they really? They like Nick Carter, yeah. Yeah, like when they go back on the reunion, like the bands,

and it's all of them. And like Ricky Martin. New Kids on the Block. Nowadays, it's all the Blue Bloods fans that go to the... Oh, shit. Okay, I just don't know any of those people. I mean, they'll go sell out

like, you know, Madison Square Garden. Damn. They did a back-to-back, yeah. Just the nostalgia stuff. People just love nostalgia So Sure

No it's Girls They have that Spice Girls Like Spice Girls Will probably play Citi Field Britney Spears

Okay interesting Britney Spears Like not only Does she have that They also have A new identity As like Lord of the Gays Like you know what I mean

Gotcha Like if you go If Britney Spears Does Vegas It's like every gay guy In 10,000 mile radius and every girl that hangs out with gay guys is all there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They haven't gone anywhere. Although about the Nickelback thing, I was in McCarran Park, which is in Williamsburg, which is like the height of hipsters, and there were these hipsters literally blaring Nickelback.

That's where it's at? It's come the full circle. And it wasn't like, Fuck you. Dude, honestly, I was like, is this, I stopped,

I was on my bike the back is back and i stopped and i was surveying the whole group of people the plug on being like i'm like is this ironic but it is weird how other groups of people will co-op do you listen you ever listen to conservative talk radio yeah all of the intro music is like fucking rock bands and shit who are like the most degenerate fucking lefty liberal fucking people in the world that's really weird yeah why like as soon as i hear rock music i know i'm listening to conservative talk radio yeah but like the height of hipsterism for a while was like rolling your eyes at nickelback's the worst and they've become they've come full circle where they're like we're now listening to nickelback isn't it and i honestly was like are they doing this ironically and i was

sizing them up to see how big of hipsters they was it like never made it as yes it was they straight that's what it was it was oh my god and i was like and i was singing along you're singing along but they're like in mccarran park like blaring this it was like only hipsters hang out there and like dominican families no that is a full fucking that's like the closing of the loop yeah yeah we've come full circle on this interesting all right well we'll get over to this minds thing um i don't know if they're putting it online or whatever but i don't know should be i'm streaming an hour intro on the roof talking to some people and then i think we're doing this after that but like i think the i mean they yeah they can watch them and you stream what do you do 12 hours a day try shoot for 10 but that's crazy that's wild it's not wild it's the easiest lowest

effort stuff you guys should hate streamers yeah well for comedy you probably work on one sketch is right like oh yeah yeah you yeah you were a lot of work dude it's like yeah i'm am often like yo this is a the world's rigged like yeah because you'll put so much work into a two or three minute sketch or maybe like a five or ten minutes yeah i still do like two or three things a week so i have like an operation but not the yeah it's not the way that you just do 10 hours yeah just turn on the button and collect tons of money for hour after hour of like oh today we're talking about whatever dude so yeah just yeah it's a different skill set it's difficult to do but you're massively

financially compensated for it. And to an unfair amount compared to people that do prepared content, I would say it's insane. Yeah. But I mean, well, sure. There's a, I mean, you know,

the big, let's say, performers or whatever are massively compensated for doing one night selling out a huge place. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, people like Hasan

are making seven figures a month. Yeah. And that's 000 people i don't know how much to sell the stadium like that's what that's insane yeah but i mean yeah like i mean if you sell out madison square gardens you probably make i don't make a decent amount i don't know 600 grand the night probably sometimes more yeah depending on how your tickets or whatever but yeah i mean obviously it is the biggest best gig like yeah they're printing money and it does does piss me off a little bit especially when you then cut i mean i mean sometimes i will be like browsing the internet for two hours and then i'm like i could just be streaming this no but oh sorry yeah but one thing i was absolutely the thing i was saying was that there was a million people doing

it that are making zero that's true that's true of every single art, comedy, fucking film. Or worse, like, you know, like, if I was streaming for 10 hours a day and I was making, like, 30 grand a year. Like, I don't know. To me, that's now the worst job. Like, yes, it's the best job when you're fucking one of the, like, probably most things are a sick job once you're the top 100. Of course, yeah. Somewhere out there, the best, like, fucking welder is working on yeah bill weld airship that is oh yeah for sure i sometimes i sometimes get weld content in my tiktok and i go that's a i don't even weld i go that's a nice weld

that's a nice fucking wow i legitimately i always wonder sometimes when i look because i'll see things like a carpenter doing a thing i'm like wow that guy really knows i bet somewhere out there there's like actual carpenters watching like this guy's fucking oh the worst amateur there was a while on reddit where it was like i don't know if people see this but there was a wow, that guy really knows. I bet somewhere out there, there's like actual Carpenters watchers like, this guy's fucking up so many in a way. Oh, the worst. This guy's amateur. There was a while on Reddit where it was like, I don't know if people see this, but there was a Reddit where it was like home improvements and you'd always click through the pictures like,

damn, that guy built an awesome fucking deck. And then as soon as you open the thread, the top comment is like, your studs are so far apart. It's ridiculous. This is going to collapse in the first. I was like, oh, well, fuck me. Good luck enjoying that deck in five years, bud.

Yeah, exactly exactly you used the wrong sealant like ants are gonna be fucking breeding inside your fucking tie and I was like oh that is the ultimate man like you're sitting there fucking with your chicks you like come to dinner I was like I would if I didn't have to tell this guy that's two by fours or I wasn't arguing with this guy on reddit

you call that a stud that's fucking funny listen you're not an actual you're not an internet debate load if you haven't been holding your wonderful girlfriend at night with your phone on the other end and you're like, I've done this.

I've absolutely done this. What, you're still arguing? Yeah, and you're on a thing and she's like, what are you doing? It's like, just give me one second. This guy does some real dumb shit on Twitter, okay? I got a really good ringer for him.

I got a quote too. Yeah. I did one time in my life tried to take a text when I was having sex and the girl got a quote to you. Yeah. I did one time in my life tried to take a text when I was having sex and the girl exploded on me. No. Wrong position.

You only do that. She flipped. Only do that from behind. You can't let her see when you're doing it. That's fucking crazy. She goes, are you fucking serious?

She catches you, I'm just taking a picture. You're so hot, babe. The best is when they have a full augmented reality but it's going to be the contact lens. Not even where you have to put your Apple glasses on. She goes,

where are you fucking with the glasses on? It's going to be the lens. She goes, what are you doing? You're literally watching the game. All this shit. You're browsing the internet. Arguing with everyone. What are you doing? She's giving someone

hell right now and fucking... Fucking Stephen Hawking trying to do that fucking hot thing while you're trying to fucking... So I'm giving her shit right now. Oh, fuck.

All right, go check out Destiny's streams at youtube.com slash destiny. Twist slash destiny. No, not anymore. You can go to that one. It'll say the page. Did you miss that part?

Well, where do you stream now? YouTube. Mostly on YouTube, yeah. Do you like YouTube over Twitch? no not anymore you can go to that one it'll say the page you missed that part well where do you stream now YouTube mostly on YouTube yeah do you like YouTube over Twitch yes I do it's been really good

and I was already streaming there a little bit but it's been fun yeah it's been fun Twitch kicked off all the fun people right maybe but did you have like

someone at Twitch and you go what like this is bullshit oh yeah he wanted to know this I was curious like do you have like you're one of the main guys I got friends

but the thing is is that like it's so segregated now. Back in the day, I knew the CEO, the CFO, the CEO, but I don't know anybody anymore. You couldn't pull

It's like a massive. Yeah. But you don't have an account manager when you're one of the top people there? I was de-partnered a long time ago for stuff

related to Kyle Rittenhouse, so I didn't have an account manager anymore either. Ah, so you lost that. Oh, that was another one that you got in trouble for.

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