The Boyscast with Ryan Long - Jelly Roll Is For The Boys
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The boys cast.
The boys cast sort of like larger than life right you know what i mean it's like oh my whereas especially podcasters you like listen to them at the most it's like oh what's up bro like your friend almost well because what i love about long form is we get to feel like we know each other yeah yeah so like
after being a fan for so many years of so many podcasts that you listen to so much you're like
i fucking know these guys yeah you know what i mean like i feel like when i finally got to meet
burt i felt like i knew burt totally i've listened to so many burt has done so much in it you know burt's just a content fucking shitter yeah machine content
and i watch it all because we're on the bus high on board you know what i mean yeah and when you
when i finally met him i just felt like i knew everything about him yeah i mean you kind of do
like you meet people sometimes like at these things and you'll be talking to them and then
i'll like you'll say something like oh yeah i know that you know what else i thought about
you know what else i thought about just now know that i was like you know what else i thought about just now is that
i think one of the big differences too is comedy begins we we begin in small rock clubs but it's
not as intimate as a comedy club not like even if i play a 500 cap rock club it feels nothing like
when i stand on stage at zany's for sure well the stage is so
much higher right the stage is higher you're just kind of built to be the music's over you yeah
where it's like the comedy club like you know how they pack them motherfuckers in i mean that first
dude and your knee could touch each other by accident you know what i mean like you're right
oh it's a yeah so it's like you go see a bunch of you know you feel more like oh i'm really close
you know i see this dude in a really intimate setting yeah and there's almost like even like a sexiness to it too like you know you'll hear
girls be like the guy the bit even like the you know just some guy on stage but it's like
in some nobody band and it's kind of like oh it's like a big deal and then they like oh it's just a
guy after whereas comedian like the whole time it's like oh this is some guy telling me his problem
there grows another white man
complaining for an hour.
Yeah, dude.
Did you go hard last night?
No, dude.
We took it.
You know what?
I've had like the most docile.
Of course, the crew's just been
just railing cocaine
and drinking as usual.
Have you guys been rocking out?
Oh, rocking out.
I can't believe he's here.
That's how crazy this is to me.
This is a big deal. We have another mic. He hasn't been up this early. Yeah, yeah. Dude, he hasn't believe he's here that's how crazy this is to me this is a big
deal we have another mic he hasn't been up this early yeah yeah dude he hasn't can you have that
seat he hasn't been awake this early since i don't i haven't seen him up this early the whole tour
really so i knew i knew i fucked up when i woke up at 145 to a text from casey that started with
not trying to blow you up man and i'm like oh i up
i didn't set that alarm i got a thing to do in like seven minutes dude i always know with anytime
you're doing anything with a rapper you go this is a flexible time frame you gotta leave a buffer
period for sure i've got the sleeping schedule of a crystal meth addict yeah i sleep when i can and
it's normally after 8 a.m. Yeah. Dude, I remember
but I have been partying
on the tour.
I just haven't been going
like nuts.
I think I'll probably
go a little crazy tonight
because you know
we're in Salt Lake City
tomorrow.
I think if there was a night
you could be shaking
a hangover off
in Salt Lake City.
You know what I'm saying?
Did you ever do the thing
where you go to sleep
for like three hours
you wake up
you eat breakfast
then you sleep like
where you do that three nights in a row where you're like I slept three hours in three hours. Yeah. That can't be good for like three hours, you wake up, you eat breakfast, then you sleep like, where you do that three nights in a row
where you're like,
I slept three hours in three hours.
Yeah, yeah.
That can't be good for you, right?
No, no, dude.
It'll kill you.
The reason I took it soft on this tour
was we used to do weekend only,
kind of like comedians.
We'd go out Friday, Saturday,
come home Sunday,
maybe play Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
come home Sunday, you know?
So I treat it like going out of business sale.
You know what I'm saying? I'm'm like how much blow can we do how much liquor can we drink in the next three days and then we'd all show up at home to our wives shriveled and hurt and then we'd sleep
for four days and feel great and come back out and do it all over again like the fifth day of
this tour when we were doing like seven shows in a row, I was like, I'll die. I was like, I'm too obese to live this lifestyle
every single night.
He was saying, you guys did what, like 30 shows?
30 and 37.
Yeah, we did like 30 and 37.
Yeah, that is like day four.
You're like rocking out, and then you realize,
you're like, how many more days?
You're like, another month.
And you go, I'll probably take it easy a little bit.
I realized that this morning,
that we're still like three weeks away from going home. you gotta settle into a groove yeah yeah it starts to feel you know when
you really probably end up you go this is not good it's like you started like just buying new clothes
on tour instead of doing laundry we already do that yeah i can't believe y'all don't do that so
it's like we'll get you know we'll put it on the rider can we get boxers socks and t-shirts and then just
leave them boxer socks and t-shirts right good fucking you know do the heavy laundry the jacket
yeah the fucking jeans last time last time i did this festival so like yeah because you know so
many comic people you know dude you're well hang out i'm sure you know so many people here no this
is day two this is day two yeah like everyone y'all to die. How many days are y'all here for? Three? Too much.
Everybody looks horrible.
You look like absolute shit.
You look horrible.
Everybody I've walked by today just looked like they were dying.
There are fans in there.
There's a dude killing it downstairs, getting the no joke, and he's crushing just because
they're hurting.
They showed up out of sheer love.
That poor guy's bombing with
the best set ever just because he's got fucking fucking 200 hungover fucks down there watching
them people are emptying the clip day one two we got here and like calm tyrell and those guys like
he goes we yeah we just went to sleep at seven i showed up at nine i actually was on tour and i
kind of came to this being like dude i'm so fucking dead and then i got off the uber and i
walked in three of my boys are
there all their buttons are undone they got a beer they're like i'm like let's go i got hyped right
back into it because in my mind i was kind of like i don't even know if i have this in me right now
to do this fucking festival we're going on tour from here too i just hope the camera's showing
how bad y'all actually it's gonna be so yesterday too so important. Yesterday, too, everybody here is just like,
hey, you want mushrooms?
Every person, you can't walk 10 feet.
Someone's like, you want mushrooms?
You want mushrooms?
I'm like, I can't.
Isn't it cool that people just want to give you drugs on the road?
Mushrooms, that's the drug right now.
That is it.
That's the one that everybody wants to give away.
What's that?
We got some killer acid, like old school acid,
like the shit you used to drop when you was a high schooler.
Yeah.
Like real LSD, buddy.
We got some shit that'll do it to you if you want to go there.
We should all trip acid tonight and go to the Meow Wolf.
Ain't it right downstairs?
What's the Meow Wolf?
Oh, you don't know.
It's literally one floor down.
I saw the sign.
And it's the trippiest shit on earth.
What is it?
We got to trip and go.
That's why people are having new mushrooms here.
Mushroom Haven is right below you. The honest truth is i honestly think a lot of people are doing mushrooms
here on the like on like some you know what i'm going to take it easy tonight for sure that's them
like let me take it easy just do a ton of mushrooms all day i'm not doing heroin tonight so
i think i'll yeah god no i'm taking a day off from last year this festival uh it was in houston and every person
got like sick everyone got covid i i've lost my voice to the point where for two weeks i couldn't
get it back like no your voice problems uh sometimes that's why it's you at your level
especially you go if i like get sick and lose my voice that's gonna cost me millions of dollars
yeah no like it's like my biggest fear in life.
I get a little scratch in my throat or something,
and I'm nervous for the rest of the day.
My wife catches me.
I'm walking around going,
just trying to find that vocal fry, you know?
I do.
Yeah, I do this.
I used to run,
and I remember I would do that in the city,
run and do those vocal exercises,
and then I ran by friends once, and were like yo are you insane it's just a crazy person running
around the streets of Toronto like me me me me just running like fuck is wrong with this guy
you look like a real crazy person I went to the casino because I literally went in.
I put 200 down on red, lost,
put 200 down on red, won,
and then I walked away.
Are y'all, so are y'all,
is this coming out later or are we live?
No, we're going to come out on Friday.
Okay, good.
So where are y'all staying at?
Golden Nugget.
Dope.
I'm at the Marsh.
Everyone's there.
Oh, dope.
I knew there,
I figured there was a spot everybody was
and that's where I'll go gamble tonight.
Yeah, Golden Nugget is where everybody stays. is it by where i'm at where am i playing
at you're playing on fremont street gold nuggets right there yeah that's what i thought is it on
the side of fremont i'm on yeah exactly yeah the fact that vegas every place has a casino like even
the airport has a casino that's the most the guy yeah right dude the gender is when you get
when you land and then there's slot machines when you like in the like arrivals
and people are just like getting you're like jesus christ no no that's real that's like
got australia playing like probably nobody's never been to vegas for it's a gamble yeah so
you can't wait to get to the like the casino real fucking casino go to the mgm if this blows your
mind you're fucked you're leaving broke dude i had this dude on my flight from uh new york
and he kind of looked like he looked like he was like a farmer or something the way and like you
could tell he had never been to vegas and he landed and he went and he took there's like the
welcome to las vegas gift shop yeah and he was like literally taking all these photos of the
gift shop sign oh that's awesome if you like the gift shop you are gonna love what you're about to
see yeah you're gonna we're fixing to fucking get mine
fucked dude this guy's gonna rape you wait till you see the girl passing out the card for a hooker
apparently old vegas is where all the fights happen that's what i'm saying right yeah so
you know vega i don't know vegas so my wife went to las vegas high so we're like we're like i lived
out here for a while.
She was born and raised here.
So I know a lot about the city.
And this is, so this was before they used to have this.
Like this is like the original Las Vegas.
This is the Fremont.
This is where I met my wife.
I met my wife at a place called,
it used to be the Las Vegas Country Saloon.
It's a bar.
If you walk out of here and turn left,
there's a bar on the corner of the right right there.
But like the strip came after,
like when Vegas first started, this was here, right?
Exactly. And then they built the strip. and they built it out yeah that's crazy
the one thing about these festivals that i feel like music has also better than comedy is like
because when you're comedy most the time you're with like one boy two you know what i mean whereas
like when you're in a band you're with the squad like always which is it is like i think even
adults like that's one of the most things
that people like miss in their life as a dude where you're like it's very rare where you're
like yo the whole squad's together for two weeks or something like that moving frat party
we live in a little submarine together and do drugs and drink all the time and rock shows
five nights a week it It's really wild.
I got on the bus
and Casey's like,
you want some Pedialyte?
I was like, yes, I do.
He just gave me
the liquid ID.
I'm glad Casey's seen
what I've seen.
He walks through
and he's like,
you need a Pedialyte.
Possibly a bump.
27.
Yeah, so you're still
in your 20s,
so you guys are kind of like.
Oh, yeah,
we're on different sides
of the mountain.
So I'm a little older than him,
so I'm married with two kids
Three fucking dogs and a cat
I got a whole other
He's got two kids now but when I met him he didn't
He actually met his wife on tour with us
That's a good story
Actually my first kid's a bunk baby
We like
We found out like when
We made the kid and it was in our bunk
So imagine that I have trouble F the kid, and it was in our bunk.
So imagine that.
I have trouble fitting in there, and he was fucking.
Yeah.
Honestly, that's exactly.
I go, how do you do people?
Every night I crawl in there, I just wedge myself in.
It can't move.
Yeah.
And this guy right there was full-blown fucking in it.
Yeah, your wife's in here.
Where's your wife?
She goes, I'm under her.
And she's just dying to help.
So you know what I think is cool about Vegas?
I thought about y'all being here today.
And I always forget this about Vegas.
NASCAR is here.
Yeah.
So one of my NASCARs buddies.
John's got a NASCAR, too.
NASCAR is tomorrow.
Are you going?
NASCAR is now.
We got to show them Salt Lake City. Oh, right.
You got to go to Salt Lake City.
Because we just played Flagstaff last night
and San Diego Thursday.
So we're doing a four run.
And then we'll take a day off for more you know how that shit goes but fucking my dude hits me up um ufc guy one of my ufc guys hit me they're having like one of those fights at the
apex today yeah we're fighting early we're coming to fremont to get drunk motherfucker i was like
that's just what i need a bunch of guys that just got in a paid fight just the adrenaline
and it's like my comedy homies are here.
Yeah, dude.
And then Wiz Khalifa's manager hits me.
He's like, we're just playing Dre's tonight.
Come through.
See, that's good and bad.
That's the cool thing about Vegas.
It's cool for like a week, but after a while,
like if you're trying to get anything done,
everyone every night being like, tonight's the night.
You're like, it's always the night.
It's always the night.
It's getting like that in Nashville, though.
When's the last time you came to Nashville?
Nashville is turning public right now, yeah. It's hard, dude. I'm domesticated in nashville now and i'm like man this is our
like you know it's never been i mean the red door is wall to wall on a wednesday
yeah you can't move around like post-pandemic everyone moved there well a lot of it started
happening right before and then they really flourished and through the pandemic they came
in because these california motherfuckers would they would buy houses without seeing them yeah they'd be like hold on let me get this right i can get a 5 000 square foot house
for a million dollars 5 000 square feet yeah they were like fucking sight unseen yeah right in the
offer you know you guys ever see any of the daily wire people around nashville no no no i don't
there's dude i'm asking 80 000 people that work no i know i'm saying
i don't i mean i'm sure i have but i don't know if i would have seen you know i can't imagine
you gotta be you gotta kind of get if you see me listen i'm like the joker
in nashville you know i'm like the i'm like the villain everybody loves when you see me it gets
dark you know what i mean like when i walk in people tend to know oh fuck you're not
having an avocado toast yeah i didn't come in to make sure everybody was having a good night i came
in to ruin the night yeah you know what i'm saying next thing you know we're leading the cocaine
parade to the bathroom we're fucking ordering hundreds of shots and people are dying puking
he told us about your your little uh was it the the bet you made in your one show oh yeah Lincoln Nebraska
yeah true story
yeah it was like
well yeah
I just wanted to see
who could drink the most
and offer like
I'm going to offer
20 grand next time
you know what I learned
I gave 5 grand away
to who could drink the most
who was it
listen first of all
they ended up splitting it
two or three ways
because what I learned
about my band
that I appreciate
they are best friends
but as soon as
5,000 dollars
was on the table
they'd have killed each other they would have stabbed each was on the table it was like i would have grouped up and been like this is a grand apiece y'all this is a grand
apiece not one of them they was interested like i was like y'all can split it if you want and
not one of them said split it like fuck these bitches that's my five thousand fucking dollars
and right then i knew i fucked up i was like oh they're gonna die they did it was bad dude two-day hangover yeah it was a dude i took we had a tour manager quit
we had a video here our lighting guy quit they quit they didn't really quit but they quit they
were so drunk in the moment they were like yeah you know they're having trouble loading out or
something because we got them drunk They still had shit to do.
There was people who had a full-blown job to do that were just feeding cups of tequila and margaritas to.
And they were just getting trashed.
They were not margaritas.
They were tequila margaritas.
He went out and bought a blender for this specific reason to get everybody fucking trashed.
He bought like 10 bottles of tequila, like two bottles of margarita mix yeah and like one bag of ice and
he would pour an entire fucking bottle of tequila into the blender and then like a handful of ice
and a splash of margarita mix and fill a red solo car to the fucking brim
dude it killed us all it killed us all they won't drink tequila with me now no
i hate tequila yeah i mean that's
all you hear a lot of people like they have you know i don't drink that i had one night
i'm afraid that i'm gonna have a class action lawsuit against me in my later years of my career
and it's gonna be all of my band right that's so funny to understand and then he made me drink
another he spelled my name out of cocaine and said if I didn't finish it that night, I was fired.
It's like he fired.
I thought about that.
I was like, what a lawsuit this is going to be.
Just a bunch of dudes with like tour shirts on.
They still got their lanyards with their lighters.
Or it's like one of those commercials, you know.
It's like, did you work for a jelly roll between the years of...
If you were backstage at a jelly roll show between 2019 and 2024,
you're entitled to compensate.
Heard a jelly roll show called Wilmetteau.
So y'all are doing these tomorrow too?
We're here for three days, then we go to Charlotte.
Yeah, tonight I'm doing, like yesterday I did like five shows.
I did like a show with ari
then i did dave smith part of the problem so it's like oh and it's kind of like a podcast crowd so
it's like in some ways people are kind of more pumped for the podcast than right they're more
pumped to sit there and actually hear the conversation wild that that like shook down
like that in the industry yeah i mean i'm a huge you know i don't i don't listen to new music
because i don't want to be influenced by it yeah i want to be aware so like when something new comes out i'll digest it totally one time like to
you know where is the state of music at in my mind yeah but shelf it so i don't listen to nothing but
podcasts nothing but comedy clips you know what i mean like you guys have so much like a boss
yeah for sure and it's like I just don't want to
ever be in the studio
and I say something like
we should write a song like
oh
yeah
you know what I mean
like I fear that
like as a comedian
in y'all's world
it has to be like
a comedian has to think
you know
we should have a bit like
you know
oh yeah
I will see
like the odd time
I see a thing
where it's almost like you'll I get inspired like the odd time I see a thing where it's almost like you
I get inspired like you'll see someone do something where they like tricked the
audience four times in a row kind of thing and you're just like man like fuck
I want to try like a like it's almost like the the skill level you're seeing
you know what I mean where he might the technical skill yeah it's almost like
the technical skill where you're like I wonder if I could pull off that or like
you know even something as small as like you'll
see someone tell like a a five minute story that had a minute straight with no laughs and then it
was worth it at the end you're like yeah do i have the guts to like pull off a bit like that
so i feel like i have some of that kind of stuff yeah but never yeah you never like oh i want to
do like a story about mushrooms because someone else did like i mean yeah i got a good mushroom story too if that worked yeah yeah oh we're doing yeah it's like oh mushroom
stories are in mushroom stories go yeah yeah that's how the industry kind of works though
right yeah for sure and i just exactly how music works for sure it's like oh y'all heard that new
hit and i just seen so much of that in writers rooms that i was like i don't want to ever be a
part of that yeah you know what i mean like i don't so i listen to podcasts comedies and music from like the 70s
and 80s yeah you know what i'm saying i might get into the 90s a little bit because i think it's
going to come back around and you're almost digesting like energy sometimes more than you
are the the you know structure the actual like you know what i mean you're like why was this like so
sick in that moment and then you kind of like have that in you you know what i mean did you find that like you know because you
got you guys have your like nashville squad of people that all got huge on the internet and you
know what i mean so you don't have to really listen to any of those people right no no no we'll see
all the nashville dudes are we're all kind of in the um submarine together anyways it's almost like
a comedy club for us.
Like if everybody was working out of this room,
that's music row for country music.
So like we know all the writers.
You hear songs now,
I'll hear country radio songs,
and as soon as it starts to play,
I'll be like,
man, that sounds like Ashley Gurley wrote that.
Yeah.
And you'll Google it.
And you'll Google it
because it just feels like
it has his little thumbprint on it.
And you'll Google it and be like,
oh yeah, that's an Ashley Gurley.
Yeah, I'll see sometimes like a female comedy TV show and it's really funny.
And I'll be like, yeah, I know a guy wrote that.
Then you look, sure enough, Kurt Metzger's in the credits.
Now, how do y'all feel about collaborative process in comedy?
There is like nowadays fact just the fact that
everything is that now to me is cool because i think a lot of these things you know you have a
band but at the end of the day it's like kind of a solo pursue right you know like yeah for sure
of course like so that's almost like lonely yeah and i think as you get older like that gets like
less fun so the fact that there's this whole part of it
that now it's kind of, you know,
a podcast is kind of like a band.
Like, you know what I mean?
Or yeah, you're all, you know,
like when I see another guy
that makes YouTube sketches that I like,
it's like, yo, let's do something.
Which is, before, I don't think it really,
you know, it's almost like kind of new in a lot of ways.
Hip hop always had that i
thought it was a game changer whenever i started seeing like podcast touring yeah i thought that
was the coolest like when i was watching podcasts sell out comedy clubs and doing two
shows in a night yeah we have a friend in montreal who sold out the bell center which is like where
the montreal canadians play for a podcast 20 000 people god
yeah insane but he's like the biggest quack also that must be like the worst thing to watch ever
like like obviously that's that is the one thing that has like this table on the stage
that's just like the tiniest stage and they're just like and then just surrounded three six
years it's incredible in an arena unless they have the pyro it's very like kevin hardy it's kind of like oh this is sick
but like it's way worse yeah whereas watching like a artist in a big place like it can be
actually awesome yeah for sure no well you could what i like about artists you get big production
so it's like you said like unless they bring a big production like the bigger the like we scale
production dancers yeah it's like we scale,
like the Bridgestone show this year,
when I play the Bridgestone Arena,
I'm finna have the sickest production.
Oh, that's sick.
When I played the Ryman last year,
I built a trailer park on stage in a car.
Literally.
That was a car on stage.
I built a car.
We had to.
It stood on the hood.
Yeah, it's fucking nuts.
Yeah, it's fucking crazy, dude.
We full blown had to like fucking
built a car in a trailer park on stage.
Like, I take the production side of that side of it so seriously.
And what are you doing?
Sorry for the other one, the Bridgestone?
It's December 9th, Bridgestone.
I think we just opened up 1,500 obstructed view tickets.
Whoa.
So if anybody wants them, help me out.
Oh, I'm sure they'll go.
You guys got lots of pyro, too.
Oh, yeah.
No, we're going to catch it on fire tonight.
I couldn't believe they let us do it in Vegas.
I know, man.
Well, because that's covered.
I could not believe you.
You got all six heads across the front, dude.
Yeah, but still, I wasn't expecting, you know what I mean, Vegas to be, you know.
Yeah, fuck it.
I mean, we put six full.
It's going to be like real fire.
Do you have anyone that you have to run anything by, or are you just straight up like, do you call a guy you're like you'll figure this out i'm on some fire yeah no yeah
you know we got a big team that we got a huge team so i'm jealous of y'all podcasting motherfuckers
boy y'all's team be like in this room right now yeah we have like a backpack and like it's crazy
louis zk could travel to arena and he could come with a backpack.
It's so funny. It's fucking...
It's so frustrating.
I went to go see Steve Byrne and Joe Gatto the other day
at Balboa,
because Byrne went on before we played at Soma in San Diego.
Okay.
So I was like, fuck it, I'm going to go see Byrne,
because I think Byrne's the funniest dude ever anyway.
So funny.
And I'm watching, and I'm like so jealous from the beginning,
because I go downstairs, There's three green rooms.
It's three comedians, one in each green room.
Like, there's fucking four buses of us out there right now and fucking like three tractor
trucks.
I'm like, these motherfuckers.
And I'm like, and they could have sold as many tickets as me.
They played a smaller venue with higher ticket sale, like an old, you know, like.
Yeah.
And I'm just so fucking mad.
I'm just like, fucking, I got to drag this fucking gotta drag this fucking drunk drug addict guitar player when you see someone
setting up drums and tuning drums and that dude got paid for it a lot of money yeah like quite
like a fucking substantial amount of fucking i'm like i could fucking figure this out yeah
no and he does it twice a day he'll set them them up, ping them, take them the fuck down.
I'm like, dude, there's no way.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, fucking, how much does that guy cost again?
You know what I'm saying?
What a better business model.
Yeah, yeah.
Y'all see this.
You just show up and set up a little podcast, three little cameras,
and there's fucking one lady back there,
and a dude that's just standing there as a formality.
I don't even know what the fuck he's here for.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, fucking, yeah.
Liquid IV dealers.
Yeah.
He's here just to help y'all's hangover.
We do have a weed guy.
I will say.
Oh, yeah.
You got.
Well, I mean, you don't have that many buses.
Have some luxuries.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Do you have a hairdresser that travels with you?
No, no.
We'll fly him out.
We'll fly him out.
Okay.
So, like, every two weeks, we'll fly him in. Like, he'll meet us the night before Red Rocks. And then you have a guyresser that travels with you? No, no. We'll fly him out. We'll fly him out. Okay, he flies out. So every two weeks, we'll fly him in.
He'll meet us the night before Red Rose.
And then you have a guy that just does weed.
He's just doing weed.
Rolls like a little super.
What did he do?
He rolls for you?
Yeah, he rolls.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
He's like our little in-house drug Yoda.
You know what I mean?
Does he have to look busy so he makes himself useful?
He's always like...
No, no, no.
He knows what's up.
He always crushing up weed.
I don't care if he don't do nothing but sleep all day. As long as we know where to weed. But he's always like... No, no, no. He knows what's up. He's always crushing up weed. I don't care if he don't do nothing but sleep all day
as long as we know where to weed,
but he's always with us anyway.
But I feel like the job of the weed guy
would be done for his day
where he's like, well, here it is.
He also doubles as the drug guy
and sometimes that turns into a late night shift.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So you never just really know which way to go.
Is he like the make it happen guy?
He's the like, you know,
we're like, he's the dude that I trust him.
Like he's been doing touring with me a long time.
We've been friends for like 15 years and he knows like a lot of shamans.
So like I know the mushrooms are good.
When he shows up with acid.
Yeah.
When he shows up with acid, I know it's family acid.
It's like Grateful Dead family.
Real deal.
GFP.
It's the top fucking 50 year old acidold ass and 40-year-old ass
and like dead ass.
So he's also the guy
that has the test strip.
Yeah.
So if the boys want to get really crazy,
you know, he's the homie that...
Okay, no, we're cool.
You know what I mean?
Like, you feel me?
Does he wear like a lab coat?
He's that guy.
He might as well.
He's like our little boy.
But let me tell you something.
When you come up,
I hope you...
Please come see the show.
Oh, we're coming.
Y'all got time?
Yeah.
So whenever you're naughty,
it won't take you two seconds
to find him.
You'll meet the whole crew
and be like,
that's him.
Because he doesn't,
you know what I mean?
The only thing about it is
if I was trying to be obscure
from the police
with my drug guy,
I fucked up.
Because if I was the police,
I would pass my whole 30 person crew
and just beeline to this guy.
You know what I'm saying, sir?
Can we see your big backpack,
please, sir? Does he look like he's like a fish lot, dude? He just looks like a hippie. to this guy. You know what I'm saying, sir? Can we see your big backpack, please, sir?
Does he look like he's like a fish lot, dude?
He just looks like a hippie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like the way he wears his hat.
Hat, pins, fucking big socks with weed leaves on them and shit.
He's that guy.
You've seen him?
Yeah.
He's got a blown glass medallion.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I go to like fish concerts, like dead concerts.
Like, they're everywhere.
You've seen him 20 times before.
Yeah, he might.
Exactly.
You've seen him.
He gets you like nitrous tanks and stuff. Yes. Yeah, there's those everywhere. You've seen him 20 times before. Yeah, he might, exactly. You've seen him a lot. You guys see like nitrous tanks and stuff?
Yes.
Yeah, we'll whip it.
Yeah.
We don't say no much.
Yeah.
We don't say no much.
Dude, whip it's kick ass.
Yeah.
They don't come around that much.
Danny used to be able to get them
until we had a,
the last time you got him,
our buddy like almost died.
He didn't almost die.
Almost died.
So I had a friend of mine
who would like,
his friend would literally
get them
I get them from the
maternity ward in Toronto
at a hospital
and they were like
actual like
whatever nitrous
and then we were
four of us were like
sitting around like this
and we were just like
doing them in our office
we had an old office
and our boy was wearing glasses
and there was like
a chair just like this
and it was like broken
like this one piece
screw was missing
and he was just this
and he fucking
we hear just like
thud and he's, we hear just like thud.
And he's on his face on the ground.
Cause he leaned back,
the chair just like gave out.
And then like his glasses smashed.
And it just like,
no,
and he's all like,
well,
we just happened while he was fucking,
we all,
so it's like,
you know,
you're literally in like a different dimension for sure,
but it's only 45 seconds.
And then you come back and he's just like, his face is bleeding. And we're like, well, dimension. For sure. But it's only 45 seconds, and then you come back,
and his face is bleeding, and we're like, well, this isn't fun.
Yeah.
And we got to all go to the fucking hospital now and get him stitched up.
Did y'all take him to the hospital and get him stitched up?
Yeah, we just walked over there.
We were at the hospital.
We just walked over to the hospital and got his face stitched up.
And the funniest thing, too, is this dude.
And this happened in Canada?
This is in Toronto, yeah.
But this is our boy
And when we met
He's a comedian
This guy Kevin
He was like
He was always straight edge
Like when we met him forever
He's straight edge
And I always was like
Dude
You gotta try psychedelics
Like just one time
Right?
Just
And he's like
Dude
I'm never ever doing them
He's like
Come on man
Just one time
Get him to do mushrooms
And then we go to this festival
We're watching Neil Young
And
That's dope
It was amazing
Well yeah
It was sick He did a three hour set To close out this festival It was watching Neil Young and that's dope it was amazing well yeah it was sick
he did a three hour set
to close out this
this festival
it was incredible
and he would like
every
all the Monsanto albums
no the funny thing is
so he played two sets
first
first
no no legit
first set
every hit
you could imagine
it was insane
and like
he does them
like perfect
you know like
exactly
and then the second set
he had this new album
like about how
he hates monsanto oh wow and it was everybody was like what he just does the whole he does the whole
thing because he really hates monsanto respect and his backup band is uh willie nelson's kids
like it was great oh that's awesome yeah the promise of the real i think yeah yeah whatever
and uh but anyway so we get my boy so my boy does ass and he's like life changed literally went from
working at a bank and he owned a house and then like i don't know six months
later he was like living in a van like but he was like but he went full shaman and he's like
everybody's like yo you fucked him up so bad but if you talk to him he's like dude it's the best
thing that ever happened to me yeah yeah but then now he's back now he's back to like you ruined my
life oh no yeah he's gonna be like yeah you kind of ruined my life. Is he back straight edge? No, no. Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Yeah, okay.
I was like, what a fucking plot twist.
You must have some dudes that took it too far that it didn't end up good in the music industry.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, no.
We have a lot of dudes that-
It also works a little better on the up.
Yeah.
When it starts to be like you're drinking too much and partying too much and the career's
on the down a little bit, that's when it starts to you know for some people not handle it properly you know the crazy
part is is that i think the worst the scariest thing is that when it goes from party drugs to
pills yeah okay and i feel like that's always the turning point that you see happen to artists
yeah right even elvis when you watch the documentary right like young energetic they
didn't say he they said he didn't do drugs we all know
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What do you do?
If you go, is there an amount of days where you go, you know what? Can you go like 30 days or will you have like, okay, five days and then I got to detox for
two days to kick it back into gear?
Dude, I'm not going to lie.
At my age, I'm embarrassed to say it, but probably three, four days.
The way I go, probably two, three days.
Yeah.
That's like pretty reasonable.
That's like your average person that goes real hard on a weekend.
Yeah, for sure.
It was like when I was his age.
So Casey's been with me eight, nine, seven.
Eight.
Six.
I think eight.
Twelve.
Eight.
Eight years.
We never met.
Long time.
Coming on a decade. Wow, dude, you got to be young. He's coming on a decade. Eight. Six. I think eight. Twelve. Eight. Eight years. We never know. Long time. Coming on a decade.
Wow, dude, you got to be young.
He's coming on a decade.
19.
Your whole life has been this touring.
Yep.
So when he first came out, I went.
I didn't never not go.
I just went.
Yeah.
This is who I was seven days a week, 365 days a year.
I was just gone.
I just went.
And now I'm old and married and fat
and i'm like i don't know man how much i now i'm oh i'm this old you ready to hold down
how much water did i drink i'll think of that right before i take my first shot how much water
have i drank today i didn't know water was drinkable in my mid-20s you know i thought it
was for bath purposes only every i thought water was
designed solely for baths and uh get a little extra clear the nose every now and then hit you
a little boop boop boop you know what i'm saying okay we're back fuck yeah well you just know
because you're tomorrow you was like yo dude yeah now i'm a grown man i'm like i'm not drinking my
first shot until i've drank a gallon do you think your boys what does uh vodka pediolites yeah yeah
that's been a thing on this tour he's living in the future right what a fucking genius you wake
up feeling good you can drink it in the morning you know i feel like as a you always kind of look
back and you're like man i can handle so much more like i like it wouldn't make me feel bad when I was young kind of thing.
But then you're like, no, what happened is you did feel bad, but you didn't care.
And then I think there's a point where you're like, yo, I can't like feel terrible all the time.
You go just trudge through it.
And eventually you're just like, why am I trudging through this every day?
Who's this for?
I couldn't feel normal.
This isn't fun anymore.
It's starting to hurt hurt it's like the end
of an acid trip i just wish it would stop just slow down a little bit yeah you're like i can go
in the studio or whatever you know what i'm like i can force it but you're like at some point you're
like who are we who am i you know what there isn't cameras on what am i doing this for what are we
celebrating i have a body this guy cory shaver uh producer producer dude in Toronto he always says he goes you know what
like his motto
is he goes
I don't party
I celebrate
so it's like
there's gotta be
I mean you can always
find something to celebrate
there's always something
we had that problem
earlier this year
it's the door guy's
fucking anniversary
right there
well at first
I wasn't used to
selling a lot of tickets
so I was like
I'm just gonna
I'm just gonna party every time we sell out a venue.
And then we sold out like fucking 40 straight shows.
And I'm in there just like, fuck it, we're celebrating.
I was committed to it, you know.
But this tour has been totally different.
We've been out for like 40 days today, I guess, 47 days or something.
This is like, hadn't even been home.
Like, just been doing it.
You get discombobulated though, eh?
Yeah, you just kind of the fun the
the only part about it i hate is that it becomes a whirlwind to the point that you're trying to
piece it back together yeah you know what i mean like to the point even even soberish you know
what i mean it's like you still look back and go what happened in albuquerque yeah you know what
i mean like you're trying to like everything like oh yeah yeah yeah No, dude. He's right there. You're filming all that?
Yeah, that's right.
You'll be on the Daily Roll tomorrow.
Hell yeah.
We drop a minute clip every day on YouTube of what we did the day before.
Oh, very cool.
Every single day.
Yeah.
Would you ever do a podcast with all the time you guys have?
You ever thought about that?
Dude, I thought about it.
You know, my wife does a podcast.
She does the Dumb Blonde podcast.
It does really well for her.
I just don't know if I... I love podcasts because i love the art of it and i love the comedy
of it i love the conversation of it i love everything we've said in here today is in satire
and it's not serious yeah i'm afraid that if i did my own podcast i would feel the need to be serious
my music serious right you know what i mean and my um my approach to music is very serious
but it's kind of like the Willie Nelson effect.
I'm a really jovial guy, though.
I'm a happy hippie that drinks and wants to party.
Yeah.
That was hippie, but Willie Nelson,
you know, fucking bandana, long braid,
fucking colorful shit, guitar, stoner.
Yeah.
And then he'd go up there and sing
fucking Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain.
You know what I mean?
So it's like podcasts give me a chance to just talk.
There's also a little bit of mystique to like a rock star kind of guy.
You know what I mean?
I was thinking that too.
You don't want to know too much of it.
You almost want to.
Yeah, you're going to give away your last bit of like,
do I really got to weigh in on every cultural event now?
Exactly.
That's the thing.
I don't want to have an opinion on shit.
It's like I get to come in here and know that this isn't satire.
Yeah.
If anybody out there has a problem with anything I've said today, you can suck my whole dick.
Right?
You can suck my, I want to apologize for not apologizing.
Fuck your mama.
Since you hate me, your granny sucks dick, bitch.
You know what I mean?
It's like, let me just go on with it.
Jelly Roll will not apologize for saying Kanye was right.
That is a quote.
Let that be the,
I hope that's the fucking right there.
Let that be it.
But yeah,
so it's like,
I'm afraid if I do my own.
Jelly Roll on Kanye.
Finally,
someone said it.
Or it's worse he's like
another rapper
that's copying things
that I've been saying
for fucking ever
so it's like
I get to come on your shit
and just kind of be loose
and fun
and it's not taken serious
I could talk about serious stuff
yeah
so it's no pressure man
I always want to just
save it for the homies
I want to come out
and do it with you
anytime y'all let me do it
I want to go see
you know the boys
Burt, Shoals
anytime any of the boys
will let me come through
it's so fun like
that everyone does that
but also there is
like to me because of
you know the way
the industry changed
and all the people
that are popular
aren't part of that
in a lot of ways
you know at least
a ton of them
it also made like weird genres like the one that are popular aren't part of that in a lot of ways, at least a ton of them. It also made weird genres
like the one that you exist in.
These kind of comedy rap genres.
That doesn't exist when you have...
Country, just the whole thing.
But when you have kind of like...
The way that it's situated
is there's the industry.
Here's like, this radio station is this
and this radio station is this
and this label is this.
So it's like,
you need to be able to place people.
But when you're just a little island on the internet, can kind of true you know what i mean you get to
be a thing that never existed before that i feel like and all of the reasons why it couldn't exist
don't apply to you yeah no and it's weird because now that i'm on radio i'm dealing with what you're
talking about for the first time ever of being i don't know how to say the word i'm being
genreized i guess pigeonholed yeah they go what? Yeah, they go, what are you, are you robbery country?
They're like,
I'm having to like,
Well,
they probably have to put you,
like when they play,
they have to put you in something.
in a category for the like,
Yeah,
and it's the first time
it's been a big deal in my career
where it's like,
where do I land?
And it's funny
because it's obviously,
I have a big song on country radio
and people are like,
well,
did you ever think
you'd end up being a country artist?
I was like,
I'm from fucking Nashville.
They told me I was country
the first time I went to New York.
Yeah.
I never,
I didn't think I sounded country until I went to California, New York. And my fucker was like i'm from fucking nashville they told me i was country the first time i went to new york yeah i never get i didn't think i sounded country until i went to california new
york and my fuck was like dog did you just jump off a hay bale bubble you know what i'm saying
they're talking crazy to me they're like yeehaw and i was like what are you talking about i'm from
a fucking trailer park yeah i'm like you know what i mean like i'm a fucking gangster i'll slap the
fuck out of you you know what i mean they were just like oh a grill. They're like, oh, look at me. I'm from the country. You're like, I have a grill. It's like, I hope another southern dude with some gold teeth.
Yeah, it's just so I guess now it's happening to me in a way.
But as long as when you live on that island internet shit, I don't know, dude.
I also just make the music I make and fuck with who I fuck with.
See, that's another thing about these podcasts for me.
I want to be remembered for this.
Like when I quit one day, I want my fucking guy like he wouldn't do a podcast unless it was a comic one
yeah yeah like he dead ass would turn down real he turned down fox news 30 times yeah you know
what i'm saying but just immediately went on anything barstool yeah i'm saying he just didn't
get called twice busting with the boys y'all the boys yeah yeah yeah you know my boys are busting
with the boys shout out to the boys why would you want to have like some guy in a suit being like and what's the
message yeah yeah what's the meaning behind the music and i'm like you didn't fucking listen to
it did you i have the most clear mind you don't have to guess what the fuck my music is about
it's fucking really right fucking there dude and then the music video is acting it out
i show it i even paid a lot of money to have somebody show you exactly what i'm talking
about like fucking shit no dude i feel like there is so much of like the the fact that like
everyone's kind of because back in the day if you think about like even philosophers used to kind of
this is maybe like arrogant comments or whatever but like
i this used to bug me a lot like four years ago i remember thinking with this a lot where they go
back in the day if you were the artists you know were architects or you know all these different
things it was like if they go someone like you go this guy's got like a great mind and the way
he like kind of sees the world and interprets or whatever oh i bet you he'd be good at doing that
here and then the more everything got kind of corporatized everyone's like no you're this but it's like you would be good at doing these
other things so and you're kind of running this little media company it's like almost back to
the you know people that are uh you know yeah it's true though like i guess this is like a
kanya thing but it's like if you're like this great musician that thinks about things differently
like why wouldn't you be good at making shoes like or whatever right right the same way that like old
like uh philosophers would build cities like to some degree that somebody would see it and
see it in a way i will say i think kanye is more creative than me i don't think he's had as many
drugs as i've had i think that my life i couldn't fucking find my shoes this morning i'm in flip
flops now i look like a bum i was walking Fremont Street with y'all in sandals and a stained t-shirt.
Just woke up.
Yeah, that's why.
You're right.
That's why I give it any compliment to like fucking even comedians or like rock and roll
dudes.
It's like, yeah, and the brilliance.
And you're like, hey, you're just shit my biz.
No, I will say I appreciate. I think I take the songwriting really serious.
Yeah.
It's the one part of my job that I like.
It's no jokes.
I play no games in a writer's room.
I'm fun to write with, but I'm not a hoot.
You know what I mean?
I'm not in here.
You know what I mean?
We'll get drunk and have fun, but ultimately. Do you when do you drink when you're making music oh yeah oh my god
you crazy every four i mean dude imagine you go no no no where's my shot that's a big part of my
song i mean i feel like every like okay if i'm let's say i was right we were like like a tv show
yeah like we had like a room like this and we're riffing and stuff i could definitely have some
drinks and we're like writing if i sit down i'm like i'm gonna get drunk and write stand up
i wake up in the morning i'm like all right well that's nothing hold on in the defense the
difference is it's collaborative like a script like a script that's right so it's like it's me
and a couple band guys and is this cool what about you like this melody yeah but i liked it when you
said this better it's like this super kind of cool yeah and that's what i was wondering too about i
don't i don't know i guess if i was a comedian i've seen him do it a little
bit i would i figured there'd be more collaboration on helping people finalize specials you know what
i mean like if i was going in my hour a little still yeah right right right like i guess it's
like a ghost writing kind of you know it's one thing your song rappers hate yeah for sure boys
will always be like what do you what about this like for a tag but like not like super sensitive but where i think it would be cool
if like you finished your hour and then you got in with three of your closest comedy homies and
was like how do i punch this the fuck well i was just like everybody's mind together like
he goes to the floor like how do we make this the fucking you know what the difference is that
you're doing that every night.
Like, if you're going to the Comedy Cellar doing three spots,
if you're doing five spots a night in the city,
it's like your friends have seen these bits like 12,000 times
and told you what they think of them already.
So, yeah, there is some of that.
But also, like, you as a human being,
because the comedy is more like,
even just like you know how you appeared.
Like, you're a big dude.
Like, you probably know how, like maybe you speak a little softer to certain people because the way that you like, even just like you know how you appeared. Like you're a big dude. Like you probably know how,
like maybe you speak a little softer to certain people
because the way that you kind of come across,
you know how you come across to people.
100%.
And you're so like tapped into that with yourself.
And it's hard for someone else to know that.
They can give you jokes,
but they'll say like,
oh, you should say this.
You're like, no, I can't really say that
because there's all these like tiny little things
that you only know about yourself
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know some some some dude being like yo just to tell the girls like mean shit and they like that
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Did you know that was one when you made it?
Did you know that that was going to explode?
I had so much faith and saved me. Never would have expected it did you like know that that was going to explode like i had so much like that but i had so much faith and saved me never would have expected it to explode like that but i had so much
faith and saved me that i wrote it on a saturday a sunday recorded it on a monday while shooting
the video to it like recorded it while like let's just film us you know put that video up that
tuesday morning didn't even have it to dsps yet my distributor
that distributes my music called me and goes what the fuck is on youtube right now and i was like
oh dude i cut this crazy song yesterday i was like i felt like i had to put it right out i was
like it feels so good and he was like it's trending he was like send me the i didn't even
send my distributor the song he's like send me the fucking mastered song i was like, send me the, I didn't even send my distributor the song. He was like, send me the fucking mastered song. I was like, I haven't mastered it.
He was like, do what?
I was like, no.
He was like, fucking send it to me right now.
Is that why it says unreleased?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, it's like I'm clearing people.
Like, don't turn this up too loud or too low.
I don't know where it's sitting.
It's not Mr. Mastered.
I just cut it.
Too bad it wasn't the old YouTube where you could replace just the audio.
Yeah, right.
Yep, when you could sneak the under audio.
And I think we might have been able to pull it off,
but we just left the original audio
and just had it linked on the backside of SoundScan.
Wild.
Yeah, it didn't make it to Spotify
until the following Monday.
Well, I remember for me, like, even that one,
there's something about all things
that you could tell where it's more just,
like, seeing that song, you're like,
who the fuck is this guy?
Like, I think it made you go go like, who is this guy?
Yeah, for sure.
And I think that's like the best first thing that is,
you know what I mean, that really pops.
100%.
You make everyone say that.
No, who the fuck is this guy?
And then you hear it and it was, you know, it's a real song.
Yeah.
Like even if you're like, I don't feel that song,
I feel that song.
You know what I mean?
Like even if it's like, I don't necessarily feel it, but I know it that song yeah you know what i mean like even if i don't necessarily feel it but i know it's feel you know it's like and then the only time i brag on myself
i sang these shit out of it i mean the moment you hear somebody say you're interested like this big
bitch can sing that's what some bitch can fucking blow you know and the catch is that doesn't happen
every night so manage expectations gentlemen oh yeah yeah no i just
you know i'm still new to singing so some nights i'm just on fucking fire and i sound like luther
van drossen my band is like you sounded in fucking credible and some nights they were like you were
off key the second half of the whole set it was like just fucking you just lost it mid set never
got it back you ever had any uh like hell gigs where someone tried like old school where
people got in fights at the show oh man well we did that last night yeah like the blues brothers
with them playing in front of the fence you know and they're just every now you know you you pack
thousands and thousands of people into a place you let them drink for three or four hours before somebody goes on stage,
and they're fighting at Luke Combs concerts
and Morgan Wallen concerts.
They must know when they see the guy coming in with $15,000
and they see the tattoos on the face,
they go, let's call a few extra security.
For sure, yeah.
And they joke, they joke.
They say that it's fucked up, but it's real.
They say rock and roll and country artists
bring the bigger fans like size
wise so they have this joke when they're like yeah that club holds 3 000 people but if it's a
jelly roller luke combs crowd it's more like 2300 2400 they're serious they'll cap us based on
like if we were like a warp tour rock band they'd expect a bunch of 17-year-old girls. Sure.
Definitely could do 3,000.
Yeah.
They look at like Jason Aldean coming or fucking Jelly Roll,
and they're like,
maybe 2,600, 25?
What do you think?
You know what I'm saying?
Like we should leave the room
a little room to breathe in.
It's gonna get hot in there.
It's some big old burly motherfuckers, dog.
You know what I'm saying?
It's some big old me's in there.
It's some big old broad-shouldered,
corn-fed motherfuckers
coming to Jelly Roll.
That's funny. They'd be some big old boys, in there Some big old broad-shouldered Corn-fed motherfuckers Coming together all the time That's funny
They'd be some big old boys man
The country fans
So yeah I guess
What's your
What is your demographic
Is it mostly like
What are you like
25 to 35
Kind of mostly
Yeah I say I sit right
Between 25 and 35
We've been getting a lot of
20s
That's a good
That's the spot too
Because they're not poor
Yeah we've been getting
A lot of younger kids too
Sometimes
But 25 to 35
We'll have some older people too Yeah you'll see some old you know white-haired
ladies singing every word it's a weird thing i'd say like three-year-olds singing every word
it turns into a family thing it's like it's weird if you had to core it i'd say 25 to 35
yeah who's some who's some wild uh collaborations that you want to do who's like because i got one
i got one with Coe Wetzel
from Texas.
Texas country artist
named Coe Wetzel
that's a fucking raving
lunatic in real life.
Really?
Best dude on earth.
One of my best fucking friends.
And he's like,
it ain't just him.
He's like our crew.
His whole crew is just degenerates.
I don't know how they get
across the country.
I'm not sure who's in charge
of that shit.
It's scary.
Every time I pull up,
I'm like,
who the fuck is really
responsible here? I'm like, who the fuck is really responsible here?
I'm like,
at least we have one dude
that's a straight edge guy
that has never done a drug in his life.
One dude.
We have one dude
out of a 20-something person crew.
We have one dude
that's never drank a drop in his life.
And we've had to wake him up drunk
at four in the morning
because we were all too drunk to deal with it.
Tour manager's too drunk to deal with it.
Dude, that is the worst guy to be.
The only guy that can drive.
Well, no, it's even worse.
You're the only guy that can wake up
and deal with the fact that
our bus driver got in a fight with a homeless man
and the homeless man busted the windshield
of our bus out in Brooklyn
under the fucking bridge,
under the Williamsburg Bridge
and now we got a fucking bus.
It's four o'clock in the morning.
I'm smack drunk.
No way.
We're fucked up.
And I walk to the bus.
Bus driver comes on,
pulls the curtain down windows
broke we got all this on footage i'll shit it out but uh the window's fucking broken and i sit there
and i'm too drunk to deal with it and at that moment i went and woke up my tour manager and
he was too drunk to deal with it and at that i looked around and i was like we don't have one
motherfucker that knows and the bus driver's confused too he's like i don't know what to do
i'm like fuck i went i was, somebody go wake up Bobby Straightedge.
Bobby Straightedge wakes up.
He goes, he walks up to me and goes, before I get involved in this, are y'all fucking with me?
And I was like, oh, no.
We're not fucking with you at all.
That windshield is out, bubba.
Not only do you need to get up, you should get dressed to pack a bag, pimp.
We're not leaving.
I was like, we're fucked.
We're going to have to fly to the next shower.
So you got to wake up and solve a real problem god damn at four in the morning it's not like you go get a new windshield
that like no for sure we ended up having to rent a car and drive the next day from brooklyn to
boston i think that sounds right because your bus made it right y'all ended up 30 20. i think we
got like our brake lines snipped or something. Yeah. We didn't have power.
That's what it was.
Our generators, wires got snipped. Listen, whoever this homeless dude is that my driver got in a fight with apparently was
a mechanic.
Yeah.
And somehow fucked up like two or three buses.
He's like Jason Bourne.
He fucked up three or four buses.
So we were down buses.
We were having a really bad time.
What?
It took fucking like a week to recalibrate.
I don't know.
It was just fucking wild.
I have no clue.
But I tell you what,
that homeless man could have been Elon Musk.
If he found the fucking brake line
or the fucking generator line and snipped it.
Would you ever take your own bus
and put these guys in the small one behind?
Yeah.
Oh, no.
We'd figure it out together.
We'd figure it out.
Don't you know the bands that do that?
Oh, yeah.
There's some famous bands you'll hear about.
It's like the singer rides in his own solo bus bus and puts everyone else and then puts everybody up i've seen crews and vans i live like i've seen a bus band a bus truck
i mean a bus truck a bus my fault a tour a crew bus an artist bus and then a sprinter of crew
and sometimes i've seen them do that and they'd have two crew sprinters
and they'd stagger them.
So one crew would always be
the next city up ready
to catch the truck
as soon as it came in.
Who travels with the most people
out of any musician right now?
The weekend stadium tour
he just did.
I have some information about it.
It was a 75 truck tour
that's like more than like
75 fucking 18 wheelers
that's like a
that's like a NASCAR race
yes
dog 75
I mean it's fucking
more trucks than the WWE
yeah yeah
they can set up
Summer Slam
with less trucks
you know what I mean
but it did look like
Summer Slam
yeah
like I saw
it was one of the most incredible fucking, yeah, most incredible production ever.
Speaking of production, I was inspired by his production, and I hired a company out of Montreal.
Oh, cool.
That's building my set for next year.
Oh, what are they going to build?
I don't want to say it.
I'll talk to y'all about it later.
I'm going to open talk about everything.
It's basically, Mike, telling me hot or cold.
It's kind of like old Guar set.
Yeah, exactly.
I got the balls.
Yeah.
We're going to have a Democratic and a Republican president fight each other to the death.
You want to hear my Guar story?
You got a Guar story?
I got a Guar story.
So we opened up for Guar at the Gathering of the Juggalos.
Do you like ICP?
Fuck yes. And I love the Gathering of the Juggalos. Do you like ICP? Fuck yes.
And I love the Gathering of the Juggalos.
I'm wearing a Twisted shirt, fool.
You guys have to go to the Gathering.
But the Gathering is the best.
You should set the podcast up at the Gathering.
Dude, I like legit ICP.
The points cast at the Gathering, guys.
People can go fucking around.
It's like when Fuck the World came out
when I was like grade six or whatever,
I was like, this is the shit.
Yeah, no, fuck.
And bitches with ODB.
That was when I first knew about them.
I did probably
45 cities with them.
45, 50 cities with Twisted.
Sick.
I did a bunch of shit
with them.
When we played The Gatherer,
we were opening up for GWAR.
And I just,
the only left original member
is Big Balls.
Right?
He's the fat dude
that has the big balls
that hang off of him.
And I knew that he was
the last original member one of the last two so when i get done i walk over and he's sitting
on his production like waiting on us to finish so they can you know he's just sitting there trying
to stay the fuck out of you could tell he didn't want anybody to bother him and i walked over i'll
this is the only time it's happened my whole career and i walk over i go hey big balls man
y'all shit is fucking hilarious i was like like, yo, can I grab a pick?
It would be legendary.
Big Ball looked up straight at me, never moved.
He looked at me.
This was his answer.
You ready?
He went, huh.
And then looked straight back down.
And that was it.
No picture.
He did not acknowledge me again.
I stood there.
I said another sentence or two.
He never looked back up at me.
His fucking old anal bitch was just like, I would have loved if he looked at me and
been like, dog, no.
I've been doing this for fucking 40 years and I'm tired.
I don't give a fuck who you are.
I'm just not getting up to take a picture.
Hey, man, maybe after the show, lie to me.
Punt me.
You know what I'm saying?
Give me the old, I got you.
I'm getting in the pre-show head space.
I'd have been like, oh, respect. Dick oh yeah big ball went it looked straight back down would you give him
the awkward yo anyways yeah yeah i kind of stood there i was like well shit have a good set dog
and he just never looked back up and i went on well i do think that the more makeup and costume
you have for your performance the more it starts to suck when you're over it oh man like i can't imagine the guy on tour put getting in a fight with his wife and she's like you don't
even fucking talk to me anymore and blah blah and he's like i gotta take the kids here and you're
like shut up i gotta put my dick costume on i gotta go into two hours of makeup yeah like i
used to think like icp a little bit of that but there's i don't know i think like i could kiss
kiss but those are probably the most ones but yeah like if you're kind of just like how much
i got to spit in chad's face their lead singer yeah because he puts blood
in somebody's mouth and spits it so he gets that splatter effect every night that like blood that's
on his face that's how he does it yeah and he was like will you spit in my face and i was like are
you asking me to spit in your face he was like yeah and i got
like a sister that's a huge mud vein fan i was like oh that's the coolest shit ever yeah this
for my sister i was like fuck yeah my sister just fucking flipped she's like no fucking way
that is so much of a funny thing though too or eventually someone's gonna be like there's
gonna be like a better way to apply it. Scrape all over. He goes, it's got to be
like a paintbrush.
He's a purist.
And what's crazy is he
let us do it twice, me
and Zach Myers.
Zach Myers from
Shinedown.
We both did it.
And then his wife hit
me.
She's a, she does
Sirius XM for the
Octane.
She's a host on the
show, Chad's wife.
And she was like, I do
it every night.
I'm glad y'all were
there.
And I was, I thought
to myself, and I was
like, how the fuck
would he do it if
nobody was there?
The dude in the crew that just always catches that stride.
It's like a security guy goes, hey, you can come spend my face.
Someone that works at the venue.
I'd let my wife spit in my face, too.
You know what I mean?
I think she has, actually.
It's so fucking funny.
They still paint up real big.
Are you glad that you never, in the juggle era, started to put a costume on that you have to wear forever?
Yeah, for sure, man.
I was always just into the culture of it.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
It's like, I just love the culture, the gathering, the music, the people, the way they come together
and get fucked up.
We trip ass at every time we do the gathering.
I played nine gatherings.
Nine?
Oh, yeah.
Dude, I got to go.
I do want to go.
I was there. Tom Green did it one year. Tequila got thrown shit at. That was when Tom want to go yeah i was there tom green got thrown
shit i was there it was awesome it was so good as cool as you think it was when you read it
even cooler there's no way because this is back in magazine articles you had to read about it yeah
when you read it and you thought to yourself haha no it was he i was there i mean it wasn't funny because i think the girl was scared at some point
but it was really really funny before that point because she was acting like she was out there like
taunting them what exactly happened what was the story well she walked out and started singing
and juggalos will boo you they don't like you that just they just that's just how they are and
they don't even mean it maliciously they're just like she kind of didn't know the whole thing she
was like i'm doing the show for your little it's like the apollo it's just like they are. And they don't even mean it maliciously. They're just like, you know. She kind of didn't know the whole thing. She was like, I'm doing the show for your little clown thing.
It's like the Apollo.
It's just like, this is just part of the thing.
And I did talk to the clowns.
They actually didn't think.
So they told me.
Don't know why I believe it.
But they really didn't think that he would have a problem.
They thought that it would be kind of like a novelty act.
Yeah, kind of goofy.
And the girl went out there and some people started booing.
And then it turned into, you know about the boo birds, right?
What's the boo birds?
Oh, dude, lucky fucks.
I need one second.
I'll be right back.
You got pissed?
Yeah, no, he's probably got his shit.
He's probably got his shit, his brains out.
You're just going to piss right there in the corner?
Dude, I was going to piss my brains out.
I'll be 20 seconds.
No, good for you.
Dude, he's been drinking so much water,
because he's so stressed about losing his voice,
so he's just been like shugging water. No's the trick tons of water and sleep yeah because he used to be in a band he
used to have all these like he's had like the vocal surgeries and all the shit he's like a
drummer and it's basically half deaf do you guys i knew that he had a music background when he
looked at me and said so how scared for your voice are you and as soon as he used the term
scared for your voice i was like oh yeah no he's saying before i'm like fucking petrified even this desert i'm not trying to
be outside in it all day yeah what was that even like that like where it's really dry stuff will
dry your voice out what a fucking nightmare and i have to deal with that and i guess there's nothing
you can do other than you know the hardest part is is the easiest way the three things that you're
i should wait and tell him all this but the three things
that are the most important for the recovery of your voice is hydration yeah sleep and and
relaxing it just like even talking trying not to talk if you do talk try not to get dude that's
actually the ultimate thing like if you have like with your girl or whatever it's just like
yeah be the ultimate playwright just like dude this morning I was like I know I've had
I've had to do days of vocal rest I've had to do days where it's like if I'm
gonna be able to sing for the next week straight yeah and I just sang for a week
straight I need to not talk today yeah you know the hard part of it is though
is that she's come off stage You're in such a fucking good energy
Everybody wants to talk
You want to talk
Cause you're fucking on the high
Yeah
And you can't
Or you know
You know what I mean
Like it's just
So people think I'm a dickhead now
Cause the older I get
I go straight to the bus
After the show
Yeah
And I spend like 30-45 minutes in there
Before I'll even talk to anybody
Yeah
And I just let the vocal rest
Oh you're like
Really that's what you're doing
Yeah I'm just not screaming.
I'm just drinking water.
I'm decompressing.
I'm trying to get the head switched out.
Dude, I was just telling him.
Fucking piss man over here.
And I'll give it to you right quick on the podcast.
You're trying to cut everyone in line, dude.
Yeah, I'll tell you this.
I'll give it to you this way.
Three things.
My dude taught me this.
Brent Smith, the lead singer for Shinedown.
Best singer I've ever seen live.
Consistently, every night.
I've seen maybe better on one-offs.
Because when it's a one-off, it's like, oh, I'm fixing to squeeze my ass cheeks together and leave it here.
Fuck if I have a voice.
First night of tour, I said, Brent, what do you do for your voice?
He said, hydration, sleep.
Number one, yeah.
Number one, he's like, you have to sleep.
He said, that is like every other muscle in your body.
It will only truly recover when you are asleep.
And hydration and relaxing it.
So if you ever get really nervous about it
and you can just take a day
where you don't talk to a bunch of people,
just try not to talk.
Well, it is one of those things, though,
where you're just like, sleep more.
And you're like, yeah, duh, I can't.
Like, I'm leaving tomorrow at six.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's almost like, yeah, you go, what's better for your voice? It's like, oh, just speak low. Like, I'm leaving tomorrow at six. You know what I mean? It's like, it's almost like,
yeah, you go,
what's better for your voice?
It's like,
oh, just speak low
and don't party.
And then I say it a lot.
You go, oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll do that starting now.
I was just telling him
my problem is.
Okay, but not that.
What else?
Yeah, yeah.
It's like,
what else can we do?
Well, hydration's a good one.
Well, I tell him
my issue I have
is when I come off stage.
Like, everybody wants to talk.
I want to talk.
I'm excited.
Everybody wants to go party.
You know what I mean?
And it's like,
dude, I just spent 90 minutes
like pushing this motherfucker.
Yeah.
Like, well,
you'll see the show tonight.
Like, I push that motherfucker, dude.
I'm not up there
having a casual conversation
like this.
Like, I'm fucking,
I'm squeezing my ass cheeks together
and I'm going for it a lot.
You know what I mean?
But I try to listen.
Do you know what I will actually say
is one that kind of does help?
It's like I don't like,
just if your ab muscles are in shape,
you know what I mean?
And that doesn't mean like having abs,
that means like, I'm sure when you're singing every night,
your ab muscles are more in shape, you know what I mean?
So you'll just lose it a little less.
You stop like even like you talk a little less like this, you start to talk properly because you're singing every night, your ab muscles are more in shape. You know what I mean? So you'll just lose it a little less. You stop, like, even, like, you talk a little less like this.
You start to talk properly because you're just normal.
I've been losing weight.
I got a nutritionist on the road with me that works with a bunch of UFC fighters.
I'm not a down player, but that is funny.
If someone's like, I'm a nutritionist, you go, who do you do?
You go, jelly roll.
You go, I'll probably get someone else.
Yeah, right.
And he's actually Conor McGregor's guy. right i got connor mcgregor's guy and i'm like i hope that when your
legacy's done you're not judged on what you did for me talk to us in 12 months or something yeah
right right here i really am i really am losing the weight and he uh that's all gonna be on the
resume yeah but we'll go we'll go out in a box oh yeah and he'll be like how do you like you breathing better than everybody out here and i was like oh no that's
from the stage yeah i know how to control my breath like i'm not i know how not to push myself
to the point of losing my breath because that's a very important part of my job yeah it's huge
like i gotta push myself but not to the point of being up there
fucking like I was
when y'all made me walk
seven flights of steps
in this fucking podcast.
My fucking body temperature
just cooled down.
I had to walk the whole
Fremont in flip-flops
and then got here
and had to walk up
a fucking,
pretty much to a fucking roof.
And I'm fucking
immediately walk in
and they're like,
the microphone's in there
and I'm standing
outside the door
sounding like a French bulldog.
You're just gonna stare,
I'm fucking,
you know what I'm saying?
I'm standing outside the door like, I hope we're i'm standing outside the door like i hope we're not live
can you hear that was it the icp thing oh no oh yeah yeah let's do that and we do have to
wrap up because they're doing better oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah the story
what's the the icp story with the the juggalos with the or whatever oh yeah yeah
the ICP story with the juggalos
with the shit
or whatever
oh yeah Tia
yeah yeah
before you get
to the fucking
pants
sorry
I forgot
this is a good
story
this is the
story
so she comes
out
she comes
out
and they're
the boo birds
here's how
boo birds
work
a group
of people
think you're
boo-able
10 of
5, 6, 3
don't take a lot
and they go
boo
and they take a breath and And they go, boo.
And then they take a breath.
And if they have the balls to come back, there will be 30.
There will be 30 of them.
It will grow.
You'll see they'll go, the next time they'll go, boo.
And you'll just hear 20, 30, 50, 70 people that have nothing to do with it.
I can't believe you've never seen this.
I've seen it a thousand times.
Then they, boo.
That's a big group, right?
And then you take the next breath.
If you can do it that third time,
I promise you a quarter to half of whatever the arena is,
just based on common bond theory alone,
we'll start booing with you.
And then the other group starts booing off time,
and then that's when it gets just shitty.
It's over.
At that point, it's over.
The boo birds are here.
They have flocked together, and you are fucked fucked and i watched that happen to this young lady i watched probably six seven dudes boo boo and by like the third boo they were pooing and
then all it took i've seen this in slow motion i've seen a fago bottle flying. And I was like, the Faygo. Somebody gets three liters too.
Yeah, dude.
This is ICP.
Everybody's got Faygo.
Faygo flies.
Lands right beside her and busts.
As soon as it busted,
she made the mistake
of taking off her bra
and showing her titties.
Like,
juggalos
were going to be like,
oh,
she's got tits.
We should be nice. Yeah. juggalos don't care about
that yeah dude they started throwing everything at this bitch i started seeing rocks i started
seeing fucking i mean shit you chairs it was some shit diapers and then this is the one i'll always
remember i seen shit flying for sure shit and i was like this is bad. They're hitting her with shit.
And then I seen a 16 ounce water
bottle with the darkest yellow
piss I've ever seen.
It hit that bitch in the forehead and
exploded like a movie.
Splat and that was when people started
to grab her. Right? And when
she goes off stage she turns around and throws up
a bird. The
Juggalos attack. As they put her in up a bird. The Juggalos attack.
As they put her and her trailer in the back,
Juggalos are scaling the fence.
It's literally, it looks like zombies.
They're just coming over, 10, 20 at a time.
They're rocking the trailer.
She's in this trailer.
Out back, they're rocking the trailer.
They're doing fuck tea and tequila chants.
They're rocking the fucking trailer. I'm watching.
Do, do, do, do do you know what to do it
was lawless yeah it was law it took icp coming over to be like no bro like like they were out
there like they're like we don't want to be the voice of reason right now yeah i still don't think
it helped him in the lawsuit no but yeah oh yeah god dude they were so mad that was like
national news yeah they googled it for old time's sake one day.
Yeah, well.
And just know I was there.
Yeah, fuck, dude.
I will revisit that
because I remember all this stuff.
I will say for what it's worth,
I did not participate in the booing or throwing.
No.
Because I never want to be booed.
Yeah.
I did enjoy the fuck out of it.
Yeah.
I truly was entertained.
You know what it is?
The boo birds is kind of like,
you know that old Chinese experiment where they go, if someone
just stands up and then everyone just eventually copies them and starts doing it and eventually
everyone in the room, no one even knows why they're doing it.
That's the booing.
It's like clapping.
Eventually, none of the original booers were even there.
It's like clapping.
We started clapping at a dinner table one night.
Everyone just starts clapping.
And then the whole restaurant starts clapping, thinking they're celebrating with us.
It's awesome.
I do that to like comics sometimes there's like certain comics they're like they're they're kind of like bad but like
i like them it's like almost like hacky bad you know what i mean like an old dad kind of thing
and then all always like start applause breaks for them on not bad jokes like if they finish
a joke and a couple guys like you said just start clapping everyone they all right
seems like this guy's just
smashing no no listen that's that energy though right we do that in our business like we're doing
a festival and i'm like all right let's be honest if we can get a few thousand jelly roll fans and
in in the middle of these 20 000 not jelly roll fans they'll feel like they're all of a sudden
now they're jelly roll they'll instantly be like yo this dude's cool enough that there's a group of people up front to fuck with him let's yeah
and then they become because it's kind of yeah that's how hot girls work too they go i don't
know these other girls seem to yeah this guy's hot i don't know no no for sure davidson too i
don't know no for sure that's exactly how that works yeah yeah but dude fuck yeah thanks for
having us brother sorry i was a few minutes late No And we are gonna
We're gonna try to make it to the show
And then
And you're gonna hang around here for a bit
I'm telling you man
Oh Jay's special's done
Probably done
It's 4-16
I think Shane's thing just started
Okay
I've never met Shane
But I'm like
Huge Shane Gillis fan
Oh yeah
I think he had
One of the top three specials
Of the year
Yeah he's the guy
I really do
I think that his live from
Austin I think that That and Schultz's special are like probably,
to me right now, the two front runners.
It's so sick because neither of them are on any sort of like, there's no company behind
them.
It's just like.
You might recognize Andrew Schultz from the hit song, Open Her Up.
Yeah, Open Her Up.
We were actually responsible for the end of the pandemic.
Yeah, I think so.
We never got proper credit for it, Schultz. They fucked us out of that, Schultz. Yeah, I think so. We never got proper credit for it, souls.
They fucked us out of that, souls.
Yeah, we did that.
We appreciate y'all, boys, man.
We're the Canadian truckers.
Goats.
Let us know.
We'll do it again.
Absolutely.
Love you guys.
Peace.
Peace, bitches.
The boys.
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The lads.
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The dudes.
We purr, boys, sons.
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