The Boyscast with Ryan Long - Johnny Mitchell on The Craziest Part of Jail, The Secrets of Mobsters & How Border Smuggling Happens

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

Comedian and Youtuber Johnny Mitchell joins the boys to discuss prison stories, interactions with cartels, and why British dudes are such lunatics. SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Helix Sleep - Helix’s Black ...Friday Sale is running now for a limited time – Visit https://helixsleep.com/BOYSCAST to get 25% off your mattress (plus two FREE pillows) and receive a Free Bedding Bundle with your Luxe or Elite order.  SUPPORT THE BOYS PATREON.COM/THEBOYSCAST  RYAN ON TOUR: Las Vegas: Dec 13/14, Minneapolis: Jan 17-19, Phoenix: Feb 14-16, Portland: Feb 25/26, Edmonton: Jan 24-26, Tacoma: Feb 27-March 1, LA: March 30, Irvine: March 21, San Jose: March 22/23, Tampa: March 28/29, Salt Lake City: April 11/12, Denver: April 13, Atlanta: April 25/26 ryanlongcomedy.com DANNY ON TOUR:  Albany Dec 4 and Hartford Dec 5 dannycomedy.com SUPPORT THE BOYSCAST:  https://www.patreon.com/theboyscast http://ryanlongcomedy.com Ryan @ryanlongcomedy

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Johnny Mitchell We have in the studio here Our studio that we built here Yeah We actually were talking Last night We were talking Shot Bitcoin in the hallway
Starting point is 00:00:35 Just some boys That's right And We had a pretty good point Where it was like Saying that It is funny that Like so many of the
Starting point is 00:00:42 Bitcoin billionaires Were like A child porn guy. Really? Is that true? I didn't understand that. But you have to assume because that's how they were criminals were trading money back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Well, I mean, like Ross Albrecht, whatever Bitcoin he had was probably worth $500 billion or something. Dude, people offered me Bitcoin for when I was a drug dealer. This is 2010. People offered me this thing called Bitcoin. I was like, get the fuck out of here with that. I had a friend in 2010 who was like, dude, this thing, Bitcoin. He was mining them in his basement and all this shit. And he's like, dude, you got it.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of in my life. And now we're on the road. Is that guy rich as fuck? I don't. You know what? He's sold some. I think he probably is sitting on but he's like a real like libertarian like so he just has them in his like cold wallet but he
Starting point is 00:01:31 has like a normal job so they just like sit in his cold wallet like he doesn't i don't think he does much with them for a period he was trading them in for gift cards because that was the only way you could get your money out like this is probably like this would be 10 years ago now and so he would just like you could there were websites where you could trade like Bitcoin for like an Apple gift card and he'd just go buy like a laptop or something. No, but you got to think like the amount of people that what? Which one is it? Oh, Jens?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah. No, you have to think the amount of people that have Bitcoin from crime and some of the worst crimes and you go, those people were rewarded by becoming billionaires. You go, that's like a anti-karma point. You what i mean oh yeah you think karma exists yeah i mean dude there's people who legitimately like probably had it on a hard drive couldn't figure out how to get it off and because they couldn't figure out how to get it off they couldn't sell it and then figured out how to get it off and it was just like worth 100x or something you know me sorry zin it up yeah but anyways i so dude i've seen a ton of your
Starting point is 00:02:25 shit but um there was a point in my life where uh probably for four years the only thing i watched was like jail docs and shit like that it's funny that you've had tons of these people on yeah but actually your story obviously quickly is you went to jail right what's the short version so i'm sure you've told a bunch of times yeah it's okay though i'm here for it it's new audience let's bring them in i'm into fan acquisition yeah okay let's sell i'm selling abc baby always this man dude why is jail shit so interesting it's the best like jail shows is my favorite show the i watched every lockup i watched the locks up around the world it's what it's what it's it is to guys what true crime is to chicks and i figure out why because girls are always like oh i would have taken a left when
Starting point is 00:03:10 i was getting chased with that knife by the home intruder you know what i mean like i would have kicked him in the balls yeah guys watch 60 days in because they're like no if i was about to get my ass busted like my cheeks just straight up gang raped i'd be like no i'd stab that dude like that i think also i think also in america like you're always just one kind of just unfortunate twist from finding yourself in prison that's true it's so relatable too because everybody goes like dude like being the last like on my calling shows like that could be me the last three weeks in a row someone called in and they were just like some story about someone who like, it was just like a vehicular manslaughter. Like, you know, it happens or like, you know, just shit happens.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Like sometimes that's the big one. Dude, like you get in a fucking bar fight. You some guy wants to kick your ass. You punch him, knocks his head on the concrete, dies. You go to jail. You got to go. And now you're fucking. And everybody's like this in other countries where people like think about it
Starting point is 00:04:05 because you know like the scandinavian countries their their prisons are like kind of all like low security honor system i would go there just to like get away from my family right yeah yeah for sure like it's not like here but here you're like there's kind of everybody just thinks you're like you know one fucking misstep yeah i kind of I don't know what the solution is, but it might be the best system. I mean, amongst like the countries. Swear to God. Amongst the countries that have real problems. Canada, not yet.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And Europe, they don't really have real problems. Although now they're starting to get it right from what we know. Yeah. But I just been to Mexico to film this show. And bro, like law is what keeps freedom i figured that out when i was a kid i was like fuck laws i want to be free that's what keeps you free you go to mexico nobody's free we've been in culiacan the headquarters of the sinaloa cartel and we just wanted to go check out this like cartel graveyard and so we snuck away from like
Starting point is 00:05:03 the hotel where the americans stay just me and the cameraman and we're going around this like huge graveyard with mausoleums that look like west hollywood 10 million dollar mansions these are all for dead drug lords right and we got back and they were and nobody knew we left and they were like we were watching you the whole time yeah like it's like the kgb so there's not so you're saying that you're getting big brother one way or the other for sure state's big brother for sure it's filled exactly and i think the state that's the happy medium right but the state usually administers violence better than criminal organizations for sure it's a lot more fair i guess yeah so i don't know but i mean like some might argue well there was the argument the
Starting point is 00:05:45 other way around is people will be like at least uh when you're dealing with the mafia you kind of like uh know the rules whereas here they kind of but you know there was like sometimes it starts to be a find me the man i'll find you the crime situation for sure for sure well cops will kill you way faster in mexico but they're all being paid off you see so it's like it all comes from like criminal money yeah yeah i had this dude yo yo on grillo you know him heard of him he's like this crime reporter in mexico and he was on my show and the british guy uh yeah yeah yeah he's badass he's like in he's not even he's but he lives in mexico and can we talk about these brits for a sec yeah why are they always doing extreme shit they're with gray white sharks they're with like there's no sunshine yeah it's just too good yeah yeah it's like god these fucking white boys bro
Starting point is 00:06:32 i'm such a hack at least i've lived it you know what i'm saying let me tell you about the cartel i'm like word please he was like there's all these dudes in the similar cartel who are like on the run but then they have these like super active instagrams where they're just like posting themselves like on the run but they're so like don't give a shit no and they're they have like tigers and stuff like they're real fucking gangsters yeah that's what i was kind of thinking like they love animals it just in general has to be almost a thousand times harder to do crime or does the internet made it easier hmm depends what crime we're talking i mean they literally made it legal to shoplift many things that but many things have become way easier for for these guys these albanians these armenians
Starting point is 00:07:15 that know how to fucking crack crack into shit you know you hack bro identity theft it's actually easier than ever according to these guys i mean mean, dude, the AI shit right now, just when I was waiting for us to start, I was on Twitter and some guy was like, yeah, my dad just got the worst phone call a dad has ever had to receive. He's like, his son was in jail and just got a DUI and he needed 30 grand for bail.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And he's like, it was an AI call. And there's like, this is like, there's gonna be this new thing where like, you can call someone, like I can call you, you you pick up your phone and then i'm just recording your voice clone your voice and then call your dad with your voice wow and that's like easy that's not like this isn't high level shit but you just said dad found out his son's gay no oh my god no he just got to death in prison i'll be straight again wow so they clone that and they say send me 30 grand yeah you're dad i'm like i'm in trouble and if you're the and i've heard other stories this happening already but
Starting point is 00:08:11 like if you're the dad and you're not super careful and you don't be like you know what we're pre-saying like what is it sorry dude oh i fucked up the flow so i don't have a bottle of water sorry oh yeah yeah uh just destroy no no it's all good but he's like what precinct are you at or whatever like like there was one guy who's like you know yes or whatever he found out then he called them and he's like where's my son they're like your son's not here and then he figured out he was getting scammed and he this guy was an attorney too he was like a big shot attorney he's like i'm not like i get how the system works that was here in america this was in yeah like california new york or something but this guy wrote this whole
Starting point is 00:08:42 thing being like i know how the system works, and I was this fucking close to getting scammed. Yeah, if you're over 60, you're on a platter right now. You're a sitting duck. But also, give your son a call real quick. Sure.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Shoot him a text. One text. Yeah, one text. Just a confirming. When he says he's in jail, like, yeah, you're right, confirm it.
Starting point is 00:09:02 That's, I guess that, but then they'll be on to the next one you know oh yeah it's a numbers game completely and the first thing you do when you find out your child's incarcerated you're like if you got the bread you're like yeah i don't know it's a panic yeah for sure you're just like go get him out bail him out but like soon like i imagine now this ai scam is someone's talking into a voice cloner that's automatically cloning the voice but there is someone talking soon it's just going to be like software that just like because all call centers are going to be ai
Starting point is 00:09:30 soon where you're not talking to people it's going to be ai so they're going to be able to call a million people a day so you're like if you just get 10 of them yeah at 30 grand a pop you're like you're making fucking good money i wonder if those ais are still going to have the indian accent like the thinly veiled indian accent you know where are you from it's like uh hello where hello this is hank this is hank so okay so the just the quick version of the story was sure oh uh yeah no whatever i mean i was a dope boy you know like back when weed was a drug i mean i would sell other shit right like if coke if the weed got dry and some coke came through, we would get that off, right? Because weed used
Starting point is 00:10:09 to dry up. I feel like I'm talking to like 23 year olds now. There was a time when the demand outpaced the supply, if you can believe it. So we used to get just, you know, 50 pounds a week was probably like the height of what we were doing. And was a lot of weed back then and uh and you would get it in october when it cropped and by august it was all sold out yeah so then you would start doing other shit but uh but yeah we just we blew the business up by the grace of god i mean i had no idea like i started out selling just dime bags in high school public school you know what i mean like early 2000 shit yeah and um and i had no idea how i was so fascinated by the black market because you would hear about being from portland the weed rush the illegal weed rush was like crack was to the black ghetto back in the
Starting point is 00:11:01 80s everybody knew somebody that was getting into it and most people didn't have success but then you would hear about like you know your friend's older brother and they're like yeah he blew up yeah i remember in high school there was this kid uh from uh my friends they went to a different high school and there's this kid this crazy kid they're like he made 50 grand selling weed and like and we were like 16 you're like what blew your mind that was like a trillion dollars so when i found out i'm like this guy doesn't have a job he like pays his rent which was six hundred dollars a month to get a house back then yeah and i'm like oh that's all that's all i want like that is the dream and so i just kind of kept like pursuing it i'm like okay so how do these buyers you can't advertise your product like
Starting point is 00:11:40 people now on snapchat are like look at all this weed and that's actually how drugs get moved that's how you promote your your shit now right now on snapchat yes on snapchat and all this shit um but back then i'm like how do buyers find sellers like it was just fascinating like i always loved economy and how did you have what was the main thing you just have to be like a man of the people that knows everyone i mean you just start from the bottom yeah like the cartel shit is the same way these guys like even you know mayo's kids mayo zambada who just got popped he was like the last of the the senores right the original fucking uh bosses his kids would work up through the organization and they would find they would find their own distribution channels and shit like that so um and weed would be like a lot of like farmers like you just have some dude who like has a greenhouse or like some hippie yeah yeah so maybe he has a greenhouse and
Starting point is 00:12:29 like humble or something so back then it was two main groups and i had i tried to keep like three or four of these guys because i could play off you know different prices you know kind of play play off of each other off of them uh yeah one was the hippies like these laid off electricians from southern oregon like ashland medford that's where uh that's where like the the growing starts right uh and they they would have just big gardens and so we would go get it from them but then if you wanted the really good price that's when you got to go deeper into california because that's where the cartels were that's where the mexicans were. That's where the Mexicans were. And they would go into the shit. Good. It was good. Yeah, it was it was outdoor weed, but it looked it looked cool. You could almost pass it off as like indoor. Yeah, I mean, they were going
Starting point is 00:13:13 greenhouses and shit like that. So it was like a hybrid, I would say. But it's high quality commercial. But so I never was like a connoisseur. I was never an artiste. I think pot culture is dumb and gay yeah i thought it back then still think it i like it it's the worst identity right now oh my god i don't think there's a worse identity after weeds become legal than like weed your whole identity when it's legal now because you're not even like yeah but you're not even like hey like i'm like fighting the fucking system like fighting the good fight you know you're like literally like it's legal you can buy it on any corner and you're still your identity that and women with dogs looking for a a dog daddy yeah on social
Starting point is 00:13:50 media on on dating apps that's the worst identity but yeah weed is is stupid but um so i never looked i never looked at it as like i'm helping people i never looked at it you didn't think it was you're delivering medicine yeah it was not delivering a lot of hippies who were like they were like this is my medicine and i rolled my eyes yeah so so when we really linked up with these fucking boys from sinaloa and i think they were from sinaloa right you don't know because these aren't it would be like the one kid who spoke a little english with the fucking gold rope and the la dodgers tattooed on his neck yeah and then everybody else's farmers bro these guys didn't even know what state they were in they were like we might be in oregon we might be in california
Starting point is 00:14:28 but they would in in the base silicon valley of drug dealing is culiacan sinaloa they every grow season they a guy will sponsor put the boss will put money behind you know mulling 12 obradores laborers north sneak these guys over and then the one guy who kind of speaks english is the guy who facilitates selling to distributors like me and they all go set up like irrigation and like yes and they go up into the federal land i saw there was some documentary i can't remember what it's up it was like someone some guy got it was grown and humble and he got i think they got killed or something and like i probably happened but there was like yeah they're like all these dudes like they go live in the fucking mountains they set up like irrigation lines it's and they're and it's it's mexican labor and what extent to like they're willing to go way further and go
Starting point is 00:15:16 and and you know that's why they succeed and an average crop they get a couple thousand pounds a crop which is good you know yeah and they give it to me for 2 000 a pound and then i can move it in washington heights new york for 35 yeah and you do that times 50 a week it turns into a million dollar spot yeah pretty quickly you know what i mean before you know you're dealing with the cartel yeah yeah and you're just before i know it but it took six years i was like open mic i was open micing dealing, but I didn't really see profit for my first three or four years. It was like having a startup. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:51 So, you know, I really put in my time. Yeah. That's wild, dude. Is it, is it true that, uh, right now, like the, you know, if you think of like the border and what's happened and people, you know, it's all the, they're bringing in criminals yeah it hasn't really like 10x in the last four years where in your i know you're not like tapped in but you still talk to you know you talk about oh no all the time is it has it like went crazy is that yeah yeah that's a great fucking question because i am more tapped in now because i'm actually we filmed at the border we've talked to a human smuggler
Starting point is 00:16:23 walked the border fence we We went into Juarez. We were down in Tijuana last week talking. We were on the building of this trap spot. And no joke, we are like 200 yards from the border fence. And so these guys are all showing us. They're telling us how they sneak people over and shit. Look, I don't know the numbers. And I'm sure some criminals are coming in,
Starting point is 00:16:46 and I'm sure some South Americans are coming in, Venezuelans, that's obviously true, you know, Chinese people. Oh, for sure. But the wall is there. It's fucking hard to get across. Do you know what these guys, Mexicans, pay to get across the border?
Starting point is 00:17:02 30? 10 Gs. 10? Because what these guys will do is they have holes cut in the border fence that they can put back like open it up oh crazy go through and they put it back so it looks like it hasn't been touched right they'll then take drones fly them they're standing on a building and the border wall is right there america's on the other side one guy's on a cell phone. The other guy standing next to him is on with the drone.
Starting point is 00:17:27 They fly the drone over the border so they can see where the border guards are at and then they'll tell the migrants, take a left. Yeah, yeah, stop. Okay, run, run, run, run, run, run. So they need to be like shooting down drones. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I mean, they're just so overmatched. It's such a long wall. Exactly, but my point is, yeah, they probably are making it like there was a time 21 to like maybe the beginning middle of last year when america was like you got to stop this when people were lining up and they were just giving them asylum that is true but like the whole you know trump let's build a wall that's bullshit the wall is there yeah it's fucking hard to get over bro yeah but the asylum thing's different like you're talking
Starting point is 00:18:04 about like coyotes i'm talking about bringing people in not like on the books like the people who come in as asylum seekers are like they're documented right like but but that's that's what we probably shouldn't allow yeah and we were right to be like that's where the right wingers were correct about asylum system right exactly but when it comes to just like sneaking people in it's not a porous border no like no and they've been doing it forever yeah it's like you can't stop it so it's like and my opinion and this is kind of a bit but like if you can make it through all that shit you probably deserve to be here yeah you want it dog you know what i mean and what is this amount can you take what did you say on the statue of liberty fucking give us your fucking basically
Starting point is 00:18:43 poor tired hungry and brown all the worst of whatever just we'll take them yeah do they does the cartel still make money with weed or do they do other yeah they do so now seems like that would not be a good so in California dude but this is got to check out unless it's so cheap or you're asking great questions guys you've seen the show
Starting point is 00:19:00 yeah commend what you guys are doing at the boys cast I'm like so I'm so like legitimately probably the most random thing that i like watch and know nothing about is jail and i mean i love jail tiktoks like the ones from jail fascinating bro i got so many guys in jail watching my show it's it's why it's why i can't sell any tickets on the road they're all doing triple life yeah but it's like because i know you're not allowed to have cell phones and then sometimes they cover their faces but sometimes they don't and they'll just be like videos of of life yeah but it's like because i know you're not allowed to have cell phones and then sometimes they cover their faces but sometimes they don't and they'll just be like videos of them like
Starting point is 00:19:29 singing and dancing bro they're on rikers everybody's smoking k2 and fentanyl and they're just fucking dancing and they're very good at dancing yeah oh there are they are very good sober bro so what happens if you do that if you're if you're in the jail dancing on is it not like the next day they come in and just like okay we saw your tiktok now you're in i don't yeah they're on it like that like next day but well well they'll they'll make a video and then they'll pass it down like you never keep the cell phone in your your cell for too long so like when i was locked up that's when cell phones really started to become pretty ubiquitous when i was in prison i was in a max for like eight months in like a maximum security prison and i had a
Starting point is 00:20:05 shot caller settled up with me for like half of that time and he was the one like a shot caller uh he ran what is a shot caller such a canadian question you're so cute let me out let me answer the shot let me answer my great aunt that question like is this like a like a cartel guy a mexican guy or do you mean like he just kind of a badass in jail? No, no. The shot caller is whoever runs the yard for the specific race. So mine was the white guys, right? So he was like the Hell's Angel guy.
Starting point is 00:20:33 You were in California? I was in Oregon. Oregon. Is it the same race politics as California? It is, but it's a lot more. So you get sort of like a chill. It's not like constant status. One of my favorite planes, ryan was uh you're west
Starting point is 00:20:47 watson yeah and then he was like and i don't i'm curious what you think about them because like some people say his whole thing is like bullshit you blew me good nice nice but uh he was watson he's like that fucking motivational speaker dude he's like super roided out motivational so he does stuff with like fresh and fit or whatever okay and he's like motivation but his whole thing is like drives like he's like i got all these fucking lamborghinis and all the stuff but he was in uh he was a cali cali prison or whatever but his whole thing is he's like because he's like you know the way if you're white you go with the whites and he's like we're doing fucking burpees and as you're doing fucking 14 burpees and then 88 burpees because it's all
Starting point is 00:21:18 like hail hitler shit he's like but we're not racist like it's just how it is and like i love the whole thing like yeah we're not racist everything's about hitler but it's not a racist thing this is how unacceptable racism is now even a guy with a swastika on his neck in prison will be like no i'm not racist yeah yeah they go you they go like i just have race it's race politics i sold heroin to a black guy yeah and you're like oh okay it's your world baby whatever you want i always kind of saw that the it seemed like the they go the white supremacist dudes they were small but they seem to like run the jails outsized for how big they are well the arian brotherhood arian brother is a very small organization and they uh they started in california prisons uh we actually had one of the guys on the podcast
Starting point is 00:22:03 and he was saying it's like their philosophy was like we have to be vicious because when we started in the 70s 80 of the yard was black right you know what i mean and the rest was latinos so they're out numbers so they're like we got to be ruthless or else we're gonna get our shit taken like it's we're gonna be brutalized right and and what does that mean like is that kind of the hey we'll find your family outside of prison like that kind of shit what what they would how that looks what's more ruthless like like oh just just killing killing guards brutally stabbing people to death like really like uh over the top violence you know what i mean um and so now they have a reputation
Starting point is 00:22:41 right uh but let me talk about this weed shit, because I think they're going to appreciate it now, because I was like, oh, there's no trap left, right? And for sure, a lot of their pockets got after the cartels, after we became legal in the US, you see a lot of cartels now, not in Mexico, not even fucking with drugs. They're gang, they're criminal armies. They steal gas from Pemex, the oil lines. They make billions doing that. Human smuggling, huge, huge.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Probably like meth. Shit like that. Different drugs. But now in California, the cartels have these huge grows, like thousands of plants, and they're basically out in the open with it. And they'll get raided, and nobody will get arrested. They'll just take all their shit, right? They grow that weed, and they're basically out in the open with it because and they'll get raided and nobody will get arrested they'll just take all their shit right they grow that weed and they
Starting point is 00:23:27 ship it to mexico they in tijuana there's traps everywhere with u.s grown weed how crazy is that what it's it's supposed to be drugs north yeah now it's coming south it's probably really easy to get it south and and mexico has a huge internal demand for drugs like i i didn't think mexicans had money to spend on drugs but like they have a middle class it's kind of growing and they have a lot of meth is really big there uh yes well meth is the biggest but but amongst because it's like a working class drug but you have a lot of expats who live in tijuana now who live in mexico so that's a that's a market and yeah just it's i don't know they find the money but that's like a big market now is u.s grown weed and they said it to tourist
Starting point is 00:24:10 areas is it legal in mexico or no no it's illegal and that's why there's there's money you know what i mean so crazy because it is crazy to see like we're in living in toronto when they legalize weed yeah and then uh like to go back there and already see dispensaries closing because there's too many of them and then like it just become like you just you just sell like but you just sell like a commodity now like you might as well sell fucking potatoes or something and you're like yeah you're just like in a highly competitive market with super tight margins and it's hard to do business right exactly and everybody thought you're like oh this is a license to print money and you're like nope nope no but the cartels still get it though you know they there's certain states like i think when it goes
Starting point is 00:24:48 federally legal there's still going to be states where they're like they're going to give the permission over to the states and they can be like no not in arkansas right you know and that's a that's a market so the cartels will grow it and they'll send it there but yeah their margins are reduced yeah you know just the way it is so if you take if you okay so the mexels will grow it and they'll send it there but yeah their margins are reduced yeah you know just the way it is so if you take if you okay so the mexicans sort of uh in america is that the biggest drug smuggling where does the the hierarchy of like okay you have mexicans then you have the bikers you have the uh what are the other ones and what's like the hierarchy what do you mean who runs what like is there a certain you go okay cartels all this drug and then the bikers stay away from that like do they have their own i guess coke is politics with
Starting point is 00:25:29 probably all the cartels i yeah yeah of course of course coke every drug that comes from you know south of the border crossing into it is uh is cartel controlled but uh once it crosses the border now it's not most of these guys from, from what I know, right, from what I've seen and asked this question a million times, most of the people getting the drugs on this side, it's cash on delivery, and then it's like, boom, we're out of it. Back in the day, the
Starting point is 00:25:56 cartels had cells all over the US, and their people were getting it. They knew where it was coming from, and it was more controlled like that. it was more like mafia style height but now it's like everything's decentralized so it's they would rather just sell the drugs to american gangs biker gangs like wholesale chicano gangs they just wholesale it and then they run back you guys fight it out amongst yourself on the street exactly
Starting point is 00:26:19 exactly so more of the crimes happen at the small level then for sure and all the fentanyl that gets cut up into the fentanyl that gets cut up into the coke and shit that's all americans bro yeah the car the the fucking they don't want that shit no i mean obviously they're smuggling they're the ones that are bringing it in they're bringing it in but they started from china though they started they started pressing uh pills fentanyl into colorful pills now is a way to reduce the fatalities like the the the dilution of cocaine with fentanyl i had a friend she lives in vancouver she's a doctor because like when the fentanyl show was starting to pop off because vancouver has like a real fentanyl problem like a lot of deaths
Starting point is 00:26:55 yeah and she was oh i thought she was basically um saying like because everybody's like oh fentanyl so bad she's like no there's so many people who like they just take fentanyl every day like it's only bad if you have no tolerance. No, it took a couple of years, but now they got tolerance to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's like, because they would used to like, a lot of them do pills, but they would get these slow release patches that they would give you like for, you know, if you had like a surgery or something, but then they get the patches and they scrape the fentanyl off
Starting point is 00:27:21 of them. Yeah. And then I'll like consume it that way to like basically. Basically what we're saying is fentanyl is no big deal, you guys. No, fentanyl is. If you do go to the doctor now, I think Corinne just had this. She went to the doctor and they're like, oh, what are they giving me for this thing?
Starting point is 00:27:34 And it was like, well, fentanyl, blah, blah. It is still just part of the regimen. It's probably like insanely like low dose, slow release. I think the problem is when you don't get in slow release, it just turns your lungs off. Yeah, yeah, fentanyl is. We thought we were getting this episode monetized. You can keep dreaming, dude.
Starting point is 00:27:51 You're going to have some editing to do there, producer. Hey, when you're talking to all the criminals, why are they able to say their crimes openly without anyone? I'm always like, how can this guy say all this? So most, 85% of them have ratted they've cooperated so when you cooperate especially if it's a high level federal deal you got to proffer meaning like look we will we'll give you a cut a deal to where you don't have to spend life in prison but you need to tell us everything it's a shield everything yes so now there's nothing uh basically
Starting point is 00:28:24 everything you admit to you can't be like if you admit to everything you've ever done i understand that part of it so that's why they can talk about when they tell because they've done the crimes i'm saying like why wouldn't mafia be like let's take these guys out and send a message that you can't do a podcast who are talking about our crimes because they're all fucking ratting bro yeah there's like no mafia really anymore how does montreal like we Yes because they don't have RICO laws Montreal is like really the last place It is
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Starting point is 00:32:04 plus two free pillows and receive free bedding bundle with your Lux or Elite order. So yeah, we had a mob guy on, fucking banana like captain, like really like a made, made dude. He had bodies on him. He was a great earner fucking you know making millions of dollars of construction he had sports sports books and shit this was like the mid-2000s and uh dom dominic saccali shout out he came on episode did fucking killer and he got a fucking hit put out on
Starting point is 00:32:38 him from that episode really saying names and shit like that yeah and there's no code anymore yes yes and so i'm like how did you figure that out so quick like how did oh it was thwarted i think like immediately and he's like dude because the people setting up the hit like it was i think it was a somebody from that family the bananas one of them was cooperating right so we could be setting up a hit but i'm also talking to the feds they go tell the feds the feds tell you there's a new charge that they have against them yes and they just have leverage everybody's leveraging up just in case they go down for like a big crime but you have to think that if right now there was you know i mean there's lots of guys that are out there kind
Starting point is 00:33:19 of being like i was a gangster you know i mean if one of those guys got shot you'd think that i'll there'd be probably half those guys and be like maybe i'll fucking you know yeah i hope that lay low on spilling crimes for a second right exactly i hope that doesn't happen but i will make if i was from there i will make a video out of it yeah yeah i guess i will exploit it over like where they just you know well you know mexico there's not even a fucking a stigma around it like all of those kingpins are all telling in each other choppo told on mayo uh mayo told on choppo his kids just because they kidnapped him that's what america does we go and literally kidnap people and then charge them with crimes he's in an mdc brooklyn with fucking duty isn't he uh
Starting point is 00:34:01 mayo yeah he is um and mayo is choppo's son no no no mile was chapo's business partner and they were part of the sinaloa cartel wasn't he like what was his deal he was like hiding out in the states or something or like he came to the states no mile yeah no no no so he got he got uh they thought didn't he sneak into the states or something when recently when yeah no no no no it seemed like they made it seem like that at first but no he was he one of uh chapo's kids so after chapo went down the sena law cartel went two factions one the chapitos right the little chapos chapo's sons and then the mayitos the ones that were still loyal to mayo was it like the old heads in the exactly so they um there there's two factions right and they all
Starting point is 00:34:46 the chapos never forgot that mayos gave the permission to his son to turn in daddy chapo they never forgot even though this was eight nine years ago now and so a couple months ago with the help of the cia and by the way these guys operate like spies it's fascinating these fucking you know these jabbering little fucking mexicans from the mountains are like sophisticated spies oh yeah i mean the money they have they probably have like all the equipment and they just have deals like so so with the help of the either the dea or the cia they kidnapped mayo and they put them on they tied them up and they put them on a private plane and they flew them to the u.s crazy so how the fuck is that honestly the only person you can't snitch or won't snitch is fucking el chapo's wife yeah remember she was just like i don't know i'm never
Starting point is 00:35:32 trying to get her on fucking she's modeling now in milan or something she's like i've never seen him do anything trying to get him on trying to get him incredible trying to get her on the pod dude so yeah i mean i i interviewed a guy he's a jamaican guy you know harlem born in jamaica was a harlem kingpin like he didn't wear shoes he didn't know what shoes were until he got on a plane to the u.s when he was eight years old and by the time he's 29 i was like what part of harlem i thought it was like one of those things har's doing bad he was so rich that his feet never touched the ground he's kind of like
Starting point is 00:36:06 a Saudi prince he just wears sandals yeah yeah he just gets and white robes as he's going through Harlem so he but by the time
Starting point is 00:36:13 he's 29 years old he's making three million dollars a week bro and this motherfucker got popped they gave him life
Starting point is 00:36:20 and he just kept his mouth shut he didn't even tell on the cops that he was paying off and that was and that's go check out his channel Unique Unique Mecca Audio They gave him life, and he just kept his mouth shut. He didn't even tell on the cops that he was paying off. Really? And go check out his channel, Unique Mecca Audio. He did his 20 years, and now he's out.
Starting point is 00:36:30 He got life, and then guess what? Donald Trump gets an office, and he passes that law. It's called the First Step Act, meaning if you got convicted of a drug crime during these years, the Clinton years and the years where they were just giving out these completely unjust sentences. sentences if you've reformed yourself in prison and you can prove it you can you you can go before your old judge and they can look at it and be like yeah stamp you're out and a lot of guys got out is that what rick ross
Starting point is 00:36:58 got uh he actually got out on a loophole he beat the case that's fire bro that was fucking yeah yeah so um so yeah those old school black guys would go down with the ship which is kind of it makes you tingle because you're like god these are men of like principle i would have thought some of it would be you know especially mob stuff or biker they go i'm going down with the ship because otherwise they'll you know kill my fucking wife or yeah yeah yeah i don't know yeah they don't it doesn't really happen it's like more like old school shit and i think there's become this whole like game theory prisoners dilemma thing where you're just like well fuck like if i don't rat like the other person's gonna run so it's just like everybody starts thinking like well i'd be stupid not to rat because i'm gonna the floodgates are open sort
Starting point is 00:37:42 of yeah you know yeah i didn't rap but i wasn't also wasn't facing this yeah enormous amount of time so it's like i don't like do they try to make you rat yeah of course but how does that work but well so every three days i'm in basically portland's equivalent of mdc fucking 23 hours 23 and a half hours a day alone in this like iron fucking cell with just a little window and you're at your most vulnerable i'm fucking completely in shock you know what i mean i'm like i can't even my head is you can't even describe it it's like the worst feeling when you bomb on stage it's like an out-of-body experience right you know yeah yeah and so every it's like mitchell
Starting point is 00:38:20 you got a visit and i'm like oh i wonder if it's the lawyer and nope it's the dea just three guys and they're just like are you ready and i'm like oh come back and see me next week maybe you know what i mean and they three days later mitchell come on dude are you ready because they saw me and they were like oh this month this is easy lunch but they want you to run on like you know cartels yeah but the thing is they didn't have a lot of evidence. So my lawyer was like, look. You might get off anyway. Yeah, I don't think, I think if you just hang in there, we could just forfeit all your money, bring them to the other money you have hidden.
Starting point is 00:38:55 It was over a million bucks. And they confiscated about 700 grand the day I got arrested. And then I forfeited another three and a half, like 350, um and he was like if we just forfeit this they'll probably just hit you with like a uh like a money laundering and you'll have you know you'll do like three three to five didn't have didn't really have any record you know um because if you go to work for them if you say hey uh yeah i'll take you to my guys i'll take you down to the fucking humble there's no like
Starting point is 00:39:31 okay you just give us him and you go free like it doesn't end for the rest of your work you work until they say you're done yeah so we've talked to people right it's big pussy big pussy out so we we talked to a guy he was a huge weed guy. He used to work with the Montreal mob. He was their point man for smuggling Bud down from Canada into the US. He was like an upstate New York hillbilly. Okay. He worked for the feds for 10 years before they said bye-bye. And they could still probably call you back at any point.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Exactly. So yeah, I was like, I just hung in there. And then they just said, oh, fuck it. OK, we'll just take it. We'll take your money. So I literally bought my way out of the feds. They dropped the charges. And the state picked it up.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And so I knew I was doing at least. It's probably better. I knew I was doing a couple of years. So that's the reason, right? If I was facing 30, I probably would have broke down. I don't know. It's a lot easier to. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah. So that's. Did you do two did two i did two i did 21 months because i got a drug program i got sentenced to three years but i i got a drug program so i got six months knocked off my sentence also probably when you're in two years you're you're kind of like i'm not gonna be in here with the real heavy hitters or were you in prison or jail prison or jail? I can't believe, what? Jail or prison? No, I was in jail.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yeah. No bail. Worst time you can do. Then I went to, but I kept getting in fights. Why is that the worst time you can do? Because you're locked up.
Starting point is 00:40:57 There's no organization, right? The reason the gangs and the races split up into groups, it's because it's the best way to try to keep the peace and keep the
Starting point is 00:41:05 drugs flowing and make sure violence is there's more stuff kept to a minimum right but in jail i'm bunked up next to a guy who's facing the death penalty and then i just got a junkie over here who's withdrawing from heroin who's in the here for shoplifting right it's chaos yeah so i kept getting tested i kept getting tested. I kept getting in fights and I would just get a ticket to get written up. So after like six, seven fights, go into the hole,
Starting point is 00:41:32 all this shit. By the time I go to my, uh, I get sentenced. The, the prison system is like, Oh, this motherfucker is like a high risk.
Starting point is 00:41:39 He's a problem. So that's why they sent me to a maximum security prison. I'm like, you got me all wrong. Yeah. You know, I can't go there. I got a future gotta go i gotta go to la yeah i'm gonna do comedy so yeah so that was a melon story too yeah exactly so i mean that's that's the how i ended up in that you know i think you went to a medium after that i went to a minimum after that a
Starting point is 00:42:03 minimum yeah i went maximum all the way down to a prison that barely even had a fence. It was like right on the Oregon coast. So you've done a bunch of them. It was lovely. Yeah. What's that? You've done a bunch of the prisons. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Did you have the, were you ever the ones where they have the glass door where you're never, like everyone can see you at all times? That's the hole. Oz, yeah. That's the glass? No, I think you're talking about Oz. Yeah, they have basically like- Like the pods in Oz? Yeah, it's a pod. Yeah, but there's not, they don. Yeah, they have basically like... Like the pods in Oz.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Yeah, it's a pod. Yeah, but there's not... They don't see you the whole time. It's just a little window. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so... Yeah, they don't have like the all glass. They would break them probably.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Or shatter. Yeah. You can break them. It's a plexiglass sort of situation. No, I never got the plexiglass. But yeah, I was in... You know, I've been to the hole a bunch. Would you go to the hole for a fighting?
Starting point is 00:42:43 So you kept having to fight. Kept having to fight. What was that example? What would they come up, like, steal your food? The first guy did, yeah, but that was my first day in there. Day one steals the food. Day one takes the fucking cinnamon bun off the tray, and they're like, that means you got to go fight.
Starting point is 00:42:59 That was basically like, hey, we got to squabble really quick. Did you have that conversation with yourself where you're like, okay, I'm going to have to go fight this guy and you hype yourself up yeah yeah i thought about trying to talk him out of it you know what i mean i'm like dude we can fucking we can haggle right yeah right um so so i went and basically like and and then you have these sandals on you don't have shoes when you're first going to prison because they're gonna you're gonna hang yourself i guess with your with your laces in county jail so i'm fighting this big bald head stocky dude uh with sandals on in the bathroom you know what i mean i got the fucking toilet toilet paper wrapped around my knuckles and shit um but after a minute of just bam bam bam
Starting point is 00:43:36 bam bam oh we're so gassed and the ceo just comes in the guard and he's like okay yeah break it up go back go back to your cell you're good because he knew that was the that was the ones that you have to get yeah or else you're just gonna get that guy just like every new guy he just goes to take the cinnamon bun yeah that's just like they're going to crappy job for that guy cinnamon buns the guy wants more cinnamon buns he's not getting enough cinnamon buns so every time he comes in he goes that's him and then if you get it and they don't fight you then you go every day i get it yes exactly so um and then the you'll be ostracized if you don't go fight right so or you'll probably have to like you'll get beat up and then you have to go to pc and hang out with the fucking pedophiles pedophiles right yeah yeah so so yeah that's uh you didn't have like the you
Starting point is 00:44:19 have to show your paperwork yep yeah all that shit yep but i got a lot of just to find out you're not a i got a lot of respect for my crime because i was in state prison with a very high level drug crime so that's pretty unusual in state prison and so that when i got to the actual prison that's when it got easier you know what i mean and uh and they respect intelligence so they're like okay and i was a hooper you know what i mean like i, I was not affiliated, so it was relatively... Do some people just go and, like, literally just don't talk to anybody and just kind of...
Starting point is 00:44:51 Just do their time? Yeah, there's those guys, yep. Yeah, they just kind of, like... Keep to themselves, usually the lifers. Yeah. You know, because they turn inward, or they just become absolute animals. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:45:02 You know. Does it happen with the jail guards that the ones that are, you know, you know how you always see the jail guards, them going to jail afterwards? Yeah. Do a lot of those guys have no choice? Because you kind of feel like you always see it in the movies, but in the shows too, where the jail guards, it's like the gang basically is like, hey, this is happening.
Starting point is 00:45:21 You know what I mean? Gangs will approach the jail guards being like, you're bringing in these drugs, whether you like it or not, or this happens, or is it slower than that? There was this fucking, there was this fat white female CEO.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And, uh, you know, it is a stereotype, but she was fucking a black inmate. You know what I mean? And I'm like, there you go.
Starting point is 00:45:39 That's the jungle fever. Old school. The girls is easier on that front. Yeah. Someone, someone, uh, someone rises her up
Starting point is 00:45:45 so he was he was risen her up real good and uh and she was bringing shit in for him this is how they do it this he was like a big black shot caller you know doing all day but he knew how to fucking manipulate and that's how you do it you start a relationship with one of these broads and now she's bringing in the tobacco balloons a weed probably some other shit and then she says i don't want to do this anymore so he just goes to the warden and boom they fucking led this bitch out of the prison in handcuffs crazy yeah yeah because they're not like well paid so they have crazy incentives of course and they put these fucking prisons in bumfuck tertiary you know de-industrialized areas and uh like at OSP, Oregon State Prison, that's old school. That's like, Gar, come here.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Like, I got a thousand bucks cash. Can you bring me in a drum of tobacco? And it's like, boom. Yeah, that costs 20 bucks or something. Exactly. And you turn that tobacco package around for like five Gs from a grand investment. And if you're a CEO and you get caught with that it's not
Starting point is 00:46:45 like bringing in narcotics yeah exactly you know you might just get fired right so it's a huge tobacco trade in prison that was the biggest money maker now because they banned cigarettes yeah i seem like i feel like you did a bunch of videos about how rikers is specifically the worst one is that in america why why is it so much worse than closing like i seen a bunch of guys talking about how yeah what what is it that what happens there that's so much different than other prisons yeah and cook county too in chicago that's like a mini penitentiary too um it's those are the worst ones yeah yeah so um that's where i mean it's just like it's like a prison but it's jail people who don't know what's happening to them gangs
Starting point is 00:47:25 everywhere beefing i don't know man they just and these guys just overcrowded probably overcrowded and people are getting just sliced they get their fucking faces opened up i don't know people have people have no value on their own lives because how the fuck could you go do that it's still there is some weird thing where they're like if we could all i often think about that because i watch so much of this like jail shit and they're like there is a weird thing where if everybody could just decide where they're like we're gonna all be unionized yeah and and cooperate that's you showing up the jail like guys i've actually solved this guys we can all just have a good time danny i literally you're doing me right now around a table of big swastika white guys.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I'm like, guys, why do we have to behave this way? You know what I mean? Let's keep civilization. And one of them was like, buddy, I know, but you're in an adult prison. Because you can't get everybody to fall in line. You're saying what's the upside? Theoretically, I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:48:21 if you could just get everybody to be like, yo, let's just cooperate and be pleasant, it could be a pretty nice time for everybody and that's the that's the canadian whatever but then you're just you know i agree but then there's one guy who goes fuck that i'm gonna go rob people and beat them up and you go okay back to the old way yeah it just takes one guy to be like i'm not doing that exactly well i mean that's the equivalent of being like you know if we just if every guy just stopped dating gold diggers they'd have to stop gold dig like yeah we should form a union yes exactly but it's always one dude there's a scam like and they try to fucking they've done that before like when the prison will take something away
Starting point is 00:48:54 like whatever a privilege people will like do a hunger strike or they'll you know won't come out of their cells they'll put newspaper over their cell doors yeah exactly um but one guy just taps out you know what i mean or or it's like you know there's always scabs right uh so i don't know that's just uh that's the way things are i don't know i don't know if uh i don't know it seems like i always there are obviously violent people in there so they're like well you're putting me in here i'm a violent person you're expecting me to show up to prison and now not be violent yeah like yeah i'm gonna continue being this way yeah just forces people like you to have to i know i know i know but i'm like man i don't know it's uh it's so crazy it's like people's just mindset i hate to make this philosophical hour but it's like people don't you know you have a choice you have a choice
Starting point is 00:49:41 unless you're really psychotic you have a choice to say this isn't prison's not making me do this yeah i'm doing it i have a choice to react to what comes at me yeah well you know why we had one of your options to react though like if someone like if a ceo is like you know like they would call it like like just brutalize some like just verbally like fuck you get the fuck on the wall you know what i mean i'm gonna search you bitch you know like you have a lot of that right abuse of power respectful then you could just be like okay yeah you're a jerk whereas they almost want you to react so then they can of course i stick you of course of course and some and you know some guards get the shit beat out of them but like they get poop thrown on them yeah they do they get those cocktails yeah
Starting point is 00:50:22 the cocktails yeah it's cocktail hey it's 5 p.m somewhere it's like literally fermented piss and shit that they like yeah that's the ultimate disrespect yeah well that's like the ultimate well you can't really be yeah that's got to be a pretty high crime to beat up a guard yeah yeah it just depends where you are because if you're in rikers and you just fuck it you give a guard a two-piece real quick, there's so much shit going on that you might just go to the hole. So it depends where.
Starting point is 00:50:49 It depends how much crime is going on because if there's a guy getting his throat slit down the hall. It's just priority. Yeah, it's just priority. They don't want the paperwork. They don't want the paperwork. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Have you seen what's going on in El Salvador where they kind of have all the pictures of just the... MS-13? Yeah, they have them all kind of have all the pictures of the just the ms-13 yeah they have them all like kind of torture i guess but they have them basically like sitting cross legged they don't give them any fucking clothes yeah they give them like you could walk around you do your time in boxers yeah it is crazy though they said the crime rates fucking yep absolutely tanked there i guess obviously well but they were saying forever they're like there's
Starting point is 00:51:22 nothing we can do and then bukele came in and he's like yeah watch like i'm gonna be a fucking borderline dictator yeah i think he is kind of a dictator now uh yeah for sure i don't know you know maybe places like el salvador celebrate it but it's just not gonna happen in america you know no no no yeah you're not gonna get like philippine style fucking like you could tell tucker carlson could say all day like yeah we want this this can happen but it's like you don't want that we'd rather have a guy doing a smash and grab but we have all these freedoms yeah you know what i mean like those are the two opposite ends of the spectrum you know i mean you're just like yeah you can i think that if you're talking about uh there's no question that just incentives you're
Starting point is 00:52:00 like the if you treat criminals really bad people are probably less likely to be criminals you know what i mean yeah however you know yeah probably like yeah but these are still human beings yeah and they're like do we want to like execute someone for having like a gram of weed right and some countries are like yeah that's fine yeah yeah if you want to live you want to live like that you want to be thailand yeah exactly or malaysia or be my fucking guess yeah yeah thailand's a weird one because they legalize weed and now they're unlegalizing it. I'm interviewing a guy. I'm going to the UK next month. I'm interviewing a guy that was,
Starting point is 00:52:31 he's this really smart, well-spoken, erudite kind of Londoner, but he was just one of these crazy, again, these Brits. And he was trying to smuggle hash out of Thailand. He got caught and they gave him the death penalty and he fucking escaped from Thai prison. What? I don't know. I'm about to find out. Tune in. He got caught and they gave him the death penalty and he fucking escaped from Thai prison. What?
Starting point is 00:52:46 I don't know. I'm about to find out. Tune in. He escaped? He escaped Thai prison, yeah. Wow, that's fucking crazy. I remember when I was in Thailand, all the,
Starting point is 00:52:53 they sell you all, like everybody's selling books and stuff and they're all just about Australians who wound up in fucking Thai prison for smuggling heroin.
Starting point is 00:53:01 You ever read Shantaram? Nah, I don't know. That's a great book i read that in prison and that's about the australian guy who was in a maximum security australian prison escaped and then he moved to like mumbai and then he started working for the fucking uh indian mob oh no no no the indians got crazy where the indian mob where they mainly oh in india they're in mumbai mumbai yeah mumbai and uh yeah it's fucking nuts they are like they're dominate that place yeah yeah so indian gangsters in fucking india you wouldn't want to
Starting point is 00:53:32 fuck with yeah exactly and how do you think they're watching that money 7-eleven 7-eleven that's it yeah yeah that's funny yeah i'll sort of one's the craziest one, but I feel like, yeah, definitely like the, I guess you said the Scandinavian countries when you watch those. And then they're obviously like, you know, people are playing tennis and shit like that. And then you watch a lot of the Asian ones. It feels like it's not so much where, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:01 everyone's fighting nonstop, kind of like how it is in North America. No, they're not like that. But it's always like 19 guys in a room situation literally you read one of these fucking books about the thai jail you're like i don't want to like jaywalk in thailand no like this one guy's book he was australian guy who tries to smuggle heroin i guess he smuggled heroin uh to australia out of thailand i guess that makes more sense and then he's like in a jail it's like literally you're in a room like everybody's just like shitting on the floor
Starting point is 00:54:25 you have like a little like thin mat he's like at one point some guy woke up in the middle of the night he's like screaming and he had like some fucking lump
Starting point is 00:54:32 on his thing and it was just like it was killing him and they like cut it open and like all these spiders came out and like it's just like nightmare scenario
Starting point is 00:54:39 and you know and you get these insane punishments like it's not they're like oh you I mean they I was saying like they if you deface a picture of the king there they send you get these insane punishments like it's not they're like oh you i mean they i was saying like they if you deface a picture of the king there they send you to jail yeah that's like dude white people rule yeah you know the west the west kicks ass you do it better the west
Starting point is 00:54:56 kicks ass yeah but the west is like you know they're still the like the scandinavian countries where they're super but the african prisons like? It depends where you are. It's called Africa. It's the whole continent. Danny got him. Clip it. Clip it. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Yeah. I don't know what they're like. They're probably bad. Anywhere where they're like economically not doing well, they're not good. Yeah, that's why. Because they're not diverting. Like you have to like, you know, like prisons are so low on the fucking totem pole of where you want your country wants
Starting point is 00:55:28 to spend its money probably where it's like you have to have a super affluent country to like but felt trickle down if you're a high level criminal the upside to getting caught in africa in mexico buy your way out buy your way out dude you can buy your way out in spain yeah we talked to this guy he's a brit jesus fuck these limeys that's all they do yeah he uh he got caught smuggling steroids uh through in spain got arrested and he he was in a hard-ass spanish prison for like five years and there and some guy was like wait i got a lawyer just give him six g's he'll go to the judge you'll be out six g's that's it what that's what six grand i've been here for five years that's a patreon month yeah you know what
Starting point is 00:56:11 i mean yeah i remember when i was in thailand that was like the big thing where at the parties people like don't buy weed because you'll buy weed for someone and they are like their friend is a cop yeah so it's all the whole thing's a setup so he's like you go buy weed then their friend arrests you and then they're basically like three grand take us to the atm basically like three grand and you don't have to go to thai jail yeah and everybody's like all right let me call my parents korea is always the wildest stories where the guy you know the there's that one that famous guy recently and he was what he yeah drew something on the hotel and he's currently doing a 30-year sentence and there's just nothing you can do about it.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Almost you deserve it if you're that stupid. If you go to North Korea, you're like best behavior if you, for whatever reason, find yourself there. Yeah. You have a couple too many drinks one night. There's no drinks in North Korea. If you're brewing your own beer with vegetables that the population desperately needs. no shit yeah if you're diverting precious food for fucking moonshine but uh did you ever have it did you have a yeah when you were in jail yeah i drank this shit bro they would brew these huge bags and uh dude the guy was like be careful with that you know what i mean because
Starting point is 00:57:20 you go blind drinking this shit they're making moonshine yeah oh yeah fermented fucking oranges so many packs of sugar but there was like a guy on each cell block he was like the the brewmaster you know for each gang he like he's got the hand they call yeah he has a hand that's making batches yeah yeah so you get twisted bro it was a little bit friday night everybody's just like there's like drugs are pretty easily available yeah yeah and like people like if like a balloon of like meth made it in, the prison, like you just feel the energy, like everybody calm down. Meth calms everybody down? For sure.
Starting point is 00:57:52 For sure. For sure. You seem like, tweakers like, you know, you know how it is when you do, some people do coke. Yeah. Like when I used to do coke, it would make me like really like, like I'd be moving my mouth and tweaking, but I wouldn't be bouncing off the walls you know it's when people are withdrawing that they act now they start fucking around yeah yeah yep yeah
Starting point is 00:58:11 so there's certain nights in jail where it's just like hanging with the boys kind of oh dude hanging with the boys yeah busting with the boys and and and there were moments of fun yeah i mean we know martin screlly and he was just like he's like i had so much fun dude you guys gotta put me in touch with yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah that's uh he was in an easy one he was in an easy federal jersey yeah and those nice fed prisons bro everybody's got money so it's just it's like it's a fucking frat house in there what do you think's gonna happen with the diddy trial damn i mean my prediction is there will not be a trial you think they're gonna kill him yeah who's he hiding though like he's not epstein level bro he's not epstein level what he's protecting jay-z well probably there had to have been politicians in the mix politicians
Starting point is 00:58:57 like want to hang out with celebrities because they're like celebrities of politics and freak off so you think maxine waters this is all black politicians maxine waters shit motherfucker give me that every clarence thomas yeah politicians are at war right now it honestly feels like whenever you kind of you know like a moment in like a movie about a country where it's just like like eric adams is going down right now it was just like uh like i've never seen so many politicians be fucking like you know what i mean they had a relative period where it was rare that any of them would go down yeah oh yeah yeah yeah they i mean unless you were like crazy corruption or doing something crazy it seemed like you know mary and barry it's like a turning point moment yeah he's now he gave his life up to god and everyone was like they accepted him back yeah they let him be mayor again yeah
Starting point is 00:59:43 i think crazy yeah i think he won again yeah we're from toronto where we had doug ford or rob ford rob ford yeah bro yeah rob ford was the man no he was the og do you guys are you happier in america you think you're gonna stay here yeah yeah yeah yeah there's no comedy industry in canada yeah but what do you think about like the system overall do you think the american system depends on who you are right it's uh it's a different mentality but you can america's the most place in the world if you want to do something and do the most and the best of it yeah you know use your full potential yes you know take whatever you're trying to do to its maximum america is the kind of the most country like
Starting point is 01:00:25 there's no question and if you are you know if your goal is you know i don't want to work that hard i kind of want to chill like i want a good life people have yeah i want a life i don't really want you know some people find i'm sure that there's just in your normal life i'm sure a lot of people have you know people are chilling and then you're one like one friend that's always like more it's always trying to yeah and you and some people are like he's too much to be around you know or like a family that one guy is always so a lot of people are just like we don't you know we don't want uh all this hustle and bustle yeah so it depends on your your temperament as a human and that should be and that's why that's a good thing we have different nations with different
Starting point is 01:01:03 cultures because you can choose to stay in Canada. And you're a plumber and you got a house in the suburbs of Saskatoon. There we go. Seattle, Canada. Well, half. Families. My mom's from Calgary. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:01:18 Yeah. Word up. So, yeah. But you know that thing about America. We're the offspring of the second born child, right? Because from the old country, England and all that shit, the estates and all that, the farmland went to the first son. So the second son is like, how am I going to find my, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:37 how am I going to find my fortune? And that's America. And the optimism of America, that's proof that like manifesting works as hokey and gay as it is it's it's the mentality of yes things will be better i mean i say it all the time like because you know everyone with all the migrant stuff right now and everybody's like fucking all these migrants are coming in i'm like dude some of those people who are coming in in 20 years from now are going to be like hugely successful like multi-millionaires yep where they can't go sneak in any other country and do that right this is the only one where they can sneak
Starting point is 01:02:10 into and just be like i'm gonna start fucking landscaping that's it and like build up a landscaping company and be like wildly successful yeah and i think exactly and i think like as much as like the right makes some good points uh you know the pendulum swung too far left but like tucker and and guys like syncophants and and you know talking heads that are just like america's so fucked up is fucked and everything's fucked it's kind of shitting on america yeah it's kind of being anti-american in a way yeah because it's not reality no i mean a lot of people i guess they uh means a different thing for different people so they're just like yeah exactly you know the probably the biggest thing that i've
Starting point is 01:02:49 i was thinking about recently in terms of whenever you're like british people you know there's a lot of british people that are you know popular youtubers or podcasts or whatever whenever there's whenever there's like a disturbance like let's say right now you know the last five years let's say however long there's it's been like a moment that feels like there's kind of chaos their instinct is always like how do we get this over with to get back to how things are yeah and i think that that's not how it works what actually happens is it's kind of like you know imagine you have like a big fight with a girl and you break up it's the instinct of like you know what let's just get back like let's get over that fight let's get back or the other version is like move on get something better it's like why can't we just go back to how
Starting point is 01:03:29 it was yeah and i think there's sometimes you see with like two people that are a lot older but i think a big part of what separates when you think of britain they're always whenever you know let's say the pc stuff's out of control whatever it is they're always like like how can we stop that so we can go just get back to normal yeah and i think that in america probably or like you know that more of type of mentality is very like you're moving forward yeah that's it you know what i mean yeah less rooted in culture and the downside of that is you have las vegas where civilization comes to crumble on itself but that's because we're not tethered to tradition the way that britain you're not tethered to tradition the way that britain you're
Starting point is 01:04:05 not tethered to tradition or even canada because you have it's funny watching brits walking around here just being like what the fuck this is what this well it's just so unbelievable that a place like this just like for something like this to be in you know anywhere in england would just be right exactly well it taps into your optimism thing though too though because when you're let's say if you know like someone's in a relationship and you're whether you're gonna leave or not like ryan is toxic bro ryan just keeps bringing up metaphor relationships he has had some shit thrown at his head bro he is i think i bring everything back to people dynamics but if you look i love it go ahead whatever or are you leaving to, you know, let's say you're going to leave.
Starting point is 01:04:45 The optimism is that there's something better. You see what I'm saying? Whereas I think that that's like, you know, the idea of like, we'll move somewhere else. There's something better there that as opposed to always trying to fix the it's so that even, you know, that's why, you know, all the crypto stuff coming from here, that's very like American. It's like this, there's a new way you can kind of like imagine a better way to do things. very like american it's like this there's a new way you can kind of like imagine a better way to do things and even though it's it's i feel like uh you ever you've been working with someone and it's kind of like uh well what's you know we need to solve this and it was kind of like well
Starting point is 01:05:14 what and you're like yeah that we you need to be the ability to be able to conceptualize that there is something better even though it isn't there yet dude it's sort of and that is what that's what it comes down to that is metaphysics that is seeing it before it's there and really believing it you know yeah and sometimes you can feel yeah i think uh there's religious undertones you know and sometimes probably in like basketball or like sports there's probably guys that you're like you know i don't know exactly what's going to happen but i kind of picture the this the like energy kind of yeah i kind of picture the energy i don't know exactly how's going to happen, but I kind of picture the, the, the like energy kind of, yeah, I kind of picture the energy. I don't know exactly how it's going to play out,
Starting point is 01:05:46 but you kind of, and then you just execute on it. But yeah, I think that there's that conceptual like ability of like, there's a conception of this better thing in the future that I'm moving towards. I think that for example, British people don't have that.
Starting point is 01:06:00 They're like, Oh, well there's something better. Yeah, right. Exactly. It's funny. Even though there is this literal AB test in the world of the better version of england aka here it goes yes uh there is
Starting point is 01:06:11 something better yeah there is there's part one and part two and we know which one's sure yeah to me i mean probably to be honest like when it goes back to the you know the jails and the crime like a part of that is that mentality is also in the people doing crime. Yeah, right. Well, what do you mean? What do you mean? I could do more. I could be the best at this.
Starting point is 01:06:33 I could do the most crime. Dude, I would walk by motherfucker's cells, and they'd be like, oh, what are you reading there? He's like, I'm studying the sentencing guidelines to see after I get out what crimes i can do i'm like really i'm like what get a degree yeah get your welder degree yeah you bum but like you obviously like are talking to people who they don't do podcasts yeah right how do you find them by the way they find me they find you they find me sometimes i'll reach out you know through if i'm connected right if i have a connection to them but you know because these aren't like oftentimes like it's not
Starting point is 01:07:09 like the story was in the news right where you can even find them it's just like a guy most of the people on the connect are anonymous they're not these you know we have had sammy the bull we have we've had freeway rick but you know the majority of them are these people that just want to get their story out like people are fucking ego driven everybody wants to be on television yeah for sure and uh so yeah that's people are chomping at the bit to come on yeah it's pretty cool yeah it's cool yeah i always think that when i see that i have my buddy tommy g he's like uh you know tommy he's fucking the man but he does these cool ass videos but i'm always like how did you find guys
Starting point is 01:07:45 to let you come ride along while they do crime yeah it's like you know like uh andrew callahan he does yeah the guys they hate the kia boys one and he goes he rides along with them while they like fucking steal cars you're like what the fuck exactly at what point is he like not an accessory i guess there's some way around that where he says i'm a journalist or something. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I think so because BBC does that. They'll go to fucking Sinaloa and interview a guy cooking up a batch of meth. Yeah, you're allowed to do that. It's fucking bizarre. Yeah, it's fucking bizarre.
Starting point is 01:08:14 People are filming their crimes. It's like- Have you ever been in a scenario where you're like, this is getting a little sketchy? Yeah, not in the course of filming the show yeah yeah um just in general we don't like yeah jail yeah yeah have you have you been listening for an hour street um yeah we we went down to culiacan sinaloa in november of 23 a month later is when they went the army went in and had this massive shootout and arrested uh chapo son ovideo and it was like dude bodies everywhere they killed like hundreds of innocent people and of course they fucking covered it up right being the mexican military um and now you
Starting point is 01:09:00 look at what's going on they're having a civil war there right now in the same streets that we like filming no in the city of kulea um so we were we were with these guys they were the bodyguards for mayo and we were we were hanging out with them in this little village outside of kulea khan and these these kingpins have layers of security right uh just like the president just doesn't have his bodyguards he's got guys three blocks away in a perimeter and then another six blocks away and so that's how it is with these guys they have rings of security that go on for miles so they can see anybody that's moving up the road so we could hear like in their walkie-talkies um like oh hey they got a kitchen meaning like the military just hit a fucking meth kitchen, you know? Yeah. But that's probably all set up,
Starting point is 01:09:46 right? They probably just gave them, they just feeding them, right? The cartels like, Hey, there's a, you should go check out this house.
Starting point is 01:09:52 They might be cooking meth there. And then they, they bust it. They blow it up. Nobody gets arrested. They get the stats. Right. But we were out there with them and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:10:00 these are like 23, 25 year old kids. And yeah, I'm like, they could just kill us yeah like i end of story and there's nothing we would just be disappeared and uh you know maybe because i was trying to make a youtube video right exactly i'm like worth it um but yeah situations like that but not even we're so connected when we go into these places yeah and and they're not savages they do savage shit sometimes but they're logical they're like oh yeah just you know make when you film me make sure i got a i mean to be honest a lot of times the criminals are probably in some ways more logical than like a bureaucrat because they actually the
Starting point is 01:10:40 the stakes are almost higher like well yeah i think sometimes with comedy you're like a you know the same way that you're just like if this is uh true it's gonna like resonate with people they're gonna be like oh fuck i noticed that too yeah where it's like you're incentivized to sort of like find the like little true nugget yeah they're incentivized to make the right words where it's a lot of times you're maybe in like a bureaucracy working for the government you're incentivized to you know not rock the boat which i guess as i'm saying that i'm sure that there are a lot of gangsters that are incentivized to not rock the boat but these guys are so organized like mexicans it are so uh they just take orders it's part of their culture right they're like i'm like why don't
Starting point is 01:11:18 you guys try to start your own cartel and they're like well it's not the way it is right in america everybody's like fuck that i can do it you know what i mean but in mexico it's this indigenous that's not for me they go that's for him exactly i'm not his son therefore i can't be a boss like a cat that's kind of mean it's a cast system so uh so they would have to get permission from like eight different people before we got whacked and the and the you can't touch a gringo like Like sometimes on accident, you know, Americans go to Mexico and they get kidnapped or caught up in a firefight and they get killed. And whoever did that, the cartels make them,
Starting point is 01:11:52 we'll turn them into the government. Yeah. Like we're so sorry. Won't happen again. Yeah. Because they don't want heat. There was the people coming over from, I think it was Texas.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Texas. They went into Matamoros. To go get dental work, right? Yeah. And these black people, and then there's on video of them getting fucking broad daylight. These trucks just fucking surrounding him and snatching him out and throwing him in the back of the truck.
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah, and they killed him. And those were just rogue. Those are just guys. You know, that's a consequence that tells me that the cartels are not as strong because maybe less drug money. You know what I mean? Who knows? But it was just a bad move and then two days later they're in front of the news with their fucking handcuff with their heads down yeah and they just turned and the cartel wrote a letter like that we did not sanction this a letter yeah very very truly yours carlos interesting yeah because you're like that's
Starting point is 01:12:43 a national news story yes exactly and Mexico what are you doing buddy Mexico it's all about appearances you don't know what is truth down there that's what's so chilling and that comes from
Starting point is 01:12:54 just not having a culture that's run by law and that's what the British did God thank God America got colonized by the Brits and not the Spanish because we're all about paperwork
Starting point is 01:13:04 it's official like I know you say it's true but like where's the proof but down there they speak in riddles the cartels influence like um what do you mean by speaking like they speak in riddles like they say one thing but it means another right and just because this guy's getting arrested doesn't mean he doesn't have a backdoor deal and it's so there's so much it's all misinformation it's all for show like the government you know turning in a kingpin was getting paid by the same guy 15 years ago right he's like hey we we gotta go you gotta go because it's election time you know what i mean it's like i said it's like espionage shit it's really influence uh like the news there like do they have an influence
Starting point is 01:13:45 on stories and stuff that's a good point not the news uh podcasting really they have like coolia con podcasts that are just arms of the cartels really how funny is that and like what do they have the fox news of mexican podcasting and then today the cartel handed out 5 000 meals to orphans like is it like that kind of like fluff pieces no it's like it's like we're winning oh we're winning the chapitos are winning the war no it's the mayitos that are winning the war they turned in this guy you know yeah and it's just that's so funny having a press arm of your crime organization yeah i mean yeah the democrats have one it's called msnbc that's it that's it that's it so but eric adams getting arrested like
Starting point is 01:14:27 do you think that was partly because they were like well we'll show them that we're balanced we'll we'll we put trump on trial for some bullshit yeah you know like uh so now we'll show them that we're we're balanced we'll arrest a democrat no i don't know i don't think it's that at all the theory is because he opposed the migration. The theory is he, the same as Trump, the theory is he went against the, he went against the narrative.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Because New York's a sanctuary city, so not even a sanctuary city, but it is, but it's also, New York has a very specific thing that I don't know if any other American city has. It's called like duty to house or something where essentially if you're homeless in New York City, they have to get you a bed. It's not like in to house or something where essentially if you're homeless in new york city
Starting point is 01:15:05 they have to get you a bed it's not like like in toronto for example like their shelters if the shelter's full they're like come back tomorrow but you sleep outside tonight yeah new york city literally has a policy where it's like we will find you a bed tonight yeah you won't freeze on the street you won't freeze on the streets we'll find you a bed and if that means putting you up in a hotel we'll put you up in a hotel we don't know what igloos are yeah yeah but like we'll put you up in a hotel so then the migrants started coming here
Starting point is 01:15:28 and they're like well that rule applies to them yeah that's why there's like all these migrant hotels and Eric Adams because by law and now he's like
Starting point is 01:15:35 they were like we have to shut libraries down on Sundays right because our budget like we have to make budget cuts because of the migrants yeah
Starting point is 01:15:42 so we're like you know we're cutting shutting down libraries on Sundays certain libraries are like and adams made that speech he was like this is going to destroy yeah he's like he's like he's like you know i was i was on board and then he's like it's kind of getting too far with like every state sending their migrants here what do you guys okay so i go to new york a couple times a year you go down to the alphabet city bro it looks like mogadishu in that little park you know what i mean it's pretty wild yeah yeah so you know even like a you know a do-gooding liberal liberal
Starting point is 01:16:11 person is like fucking god damn this guy's got a hawk on his shoulder you know it's fucking wild you know it's scary you see all these fucking you know like big congolese motherfuckers and it's yeah it's i'll tell you what it's crazy the extent to which uh it almost needs like when you come down and look at it because i think just living anywhere it's so it's as a human so quickly it becomes normal yeah like you know what i mean for sure like i'm sure that if you know people who live in mexico and you're like you know it's not rare for one of your neighbors to just get like murdered and disappeared or when you know you talk about how your family when they lived in Russia like someone it's crazy how quick things become like normalized I mean the only thing that'll never get normal to me is a dude wearing a fucking
Starting point is 01:16:55 snowsuit in the middle of the summer dude where is that where is that oh it's like all the thing right no it's not a hood thing no it, it's all the Africans and South Asians and stuff because they come from such hot climates. That's how hot it is in Sudan. They're like in New York fucking summers, they're cold. Yeah, that's... So they just are all wearing fucking parkas and shit in the summer because they're just like, this is cold to them.
Starting point is 01:17:22 My boys that used to sell crack back in fucking Portland, I would sell weed to these crack dealers back in the summer because they're just like this is cold to them my boys that used to sell crack back in fucking portland uh i would sell weed to these crack dealers back in the day they'd be like that's how you tell if he's a cop or not if he's dressed like it's december and july yeah crackheads don't sweat for some reason that's how you know he's good yeah i guess all it takes is for one cop to know that and then you go now we have our new but then he's sweating yeah he's sweating though yeah unless you're smoking crack he's so dedicated he's like i'm gonna become a crackhead that's the other thing recently where i was saying that uh if you are like if you want to be racist uh like and you're like you can't say the n-word as a white guy if you take a job as an undercover cop that like taking down a white supremacist crime ring and you're just like 10 years of being racist and you're just like,
Starting point is 01:18:05 yeah, it's called stopping crime. That is the life hack. He's like, dude, I love my job. No, you love your job. You don't understand. I love my job. His bosses are like, okay, we got the evidence now.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Like you're done. You're like, no, no, no. I think there's more to uncover. More to be uncovered, man. I don't think we're just getting started out here we're doing a rally tomorrow i'm pretty sure that probably get some beers on that i have a speech planned i have a guest of honor that is the life hack so you're russian dude that my parents are from soviets that explains a lot your politics and shit yeah yeah my parents lived in like soviet russia till the 70s that's where i would flee that's a good place now first of all i don't know where
Starting point is 01:18:50 you guys stand on the i mean i'm pro putin you know what i mean they they they poke the bear too many times yeah for sure i mean the bear to me there's like guys i'm gonna fuck you up please don't make the idea that there wasn't like two sides to this like they were just like yo there's one side to this and there's not another so like my grandmother we just took a hundred grand to actually say that yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah we're getting a hundred grand for every episode we put out of space so um but like yeah i remember like because i didn't know like the politics of russia that much it's always confusing when i would hear stories because like every time i hear a story like the city has like a new name right right because it was just like the borders are constantly getting redrawn and you're like in a new country
Starting point is 01:19:27 now and all this shit. But like, you know, Crimea, like I remember when they annexed Crimea and then my grandmother was like, and my grandma hates Putin. Like all the people who left Russia, like they all hate him because they just like hate communism essentially. And they hate just like that way of life and style or whatever. But she's like, yeah, all those people are Russian in Crimea. See?
Starting point is 01:19:44 Like they're not Ukrainian. Yeah. They're Russians who are living in ukraine yeah but they're like they're all russian like if it's up to them they want to be in russia yeah and ukraine when we fucking overthrew help the coup in 2014 they started bombing the fucking dunbas they were killing ethnic russians in ukraine yeah for sure but i like it like as criminals you can now flee to russia so like these irish cartel guys uh the kinahan cartel we did an episode about them they're all gonna have like the walls are closing in on them finally like they're they're marooned in irish mob guys yeah the kinahan cartel they're like these guys are g's bro they fucking irish mob is the best shit yeah it's wild bro they're
Starting point is 01:20:25 they they had to flee to dubai because they don't have extradition laws of dubai so dubai is a haven for like these european australian international criminals and they like it if you're gonna bring in a ton of money they're like let's do it yeah but now the heat's coming down dubai's gonna start extraditing these guys they're gonna make treaties so now they're like they're coming they're becoming a big boy country right now exactly they're growing up a little bit that fun's coming to an end so these they say the kinahans they're gonna have to flee to iran or russia because they you're safe there iran might not be a good place if the way things are selling drugs yeah that's true no just politically but you can go to russia and be safe that's the only place where our
Starting point is 01:21:03 government is cannot go in and kidnap you yeah yeah i had a guy on my show recently actually who used to be like a big occupy wall street guy and he's from like new jersey or something he just moved to russia he just lives in like the sticks outside of moscow wow he loves it he's just like was on a fucking dude russians russia's got babes yeah they got babes they're he's like he's like there's like nobody like really bugs you like law wise like he's just like do my own thing i'm sure if you say the wrong thing publicly you're gonna have some trouble oh yeah you're gonna get some bad tea if you fucking yeah he had a thing on he did a thing on our sheer just the hackiest yeah yeah he had a thing on
Starting point is 01:21:42 rt and he was honestly like it's not yeah like obviously if you if you become like a big figure and make it a huge stink but it's it's not like one of my parents kgb style right you couldn't tell your neighbor like a fucking thing and get you get scooped out yeah and they have isn't it a capitalist country it's like a free market i mean moscow's like he's like dude moscow's most modern city like yeah he's like i'm not a commie like i'm trying to move away from communism yeah i want to move us to the west yeah and uh we were just like more like an authoritarian yeah capitalist like he just wants to rule with an iron fist but they're definitely capitalists there i love russia dude yeah i love russia i've never been there i've never been there no i couldn't like my i used to grew up reading like solzhenitsyn yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:22:23 you know tolstoy and shit like that. My parents, my parents had it so much. Like my dad's a crazy soccer fan. And when the world cup was in Russia, because you, because to go to Russia, you need to get like a very extensive visa.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Like it's like a really like big application. Cause they want to keep like people who are maybe not good for Russia out of the country. So it's like this huge thing. And for the world cup, they were like, if you have a pass to get into a game you don't need to get a visa like you don't need to go through this process like an easy like visa on arrival so i was like my dad's a crazy soccer fan i was like we should go to a game because i've never been to russia and he hasn't
Starting point is 01:22:57 been back since like 75 when he left my dad's like no yeah yeah my dad he's he hates russia yeah you know my dad has they're so binary boomers gotta go i mean boomers are holding the world back yeah but he is russian he's just like yeah i understand what you're i'm not gonna have to leave their stuff there when they left that's yeah yeah it was like you can't bring anything with you i mean dude if you i understand that you know what it's like to get all your stuff taken away from you bro i sure do i just got one sack slung over my shoulder my books and my paper sack of shit dude that's nuts that's fucking nuts it feels like so much people these days must be going away from just
Starting point is 01:23:31 like sending text messages the the amount of like trials in court cases that i see these days where it's just like the discovery came out and the guy told 50 different people what crime he was doing like that it it feels like uh you know it seems so obvious that like yeah don't text everyone your crimes and no one follows they just i just read actually the other day i can't remember what website but there was like this company it was called like ghost or something and they would make these like encrypted phones or whatever where it's like these fully like encrypted phones that couldn't be detected they were like they would like go into them and like remove
Starting point is 01:24:09 like yeah like the wi-fi chip and stuff and this guy was he was like a young kid like a 20 something he was manufacturing them just for criminals just for criminals and it was like there and the business was like all over the world essentially like it was like malt like the money came in in the united states but there was like an australia so it was like a really hard thing to put but they figured out how to like crack them and they like busted this guy and they essentially are charging him with all the crimes of all the people that's fucked up who like like similar to russ albrecht essentially where they're like they got him for everybody everything like bad done on silk road they're like you did that yeah they're like doing that to like this guy throw the book at him basically being like yo you every
Starting point is 01:24:47 fucking drug that was sold by your like clients we're charging you with where who did that what government yes fuck as always we're meanie weenies bro we are meanie fucking weenies that's you know America can't seem to hit that pendulum yeah more Canadians need to take over american politics because you guys have that everyone's fucking yelling at you you guys have that no they don't but you guys like you play to a fan base you're obviously like anti-woke and you do it the best by the way just to give you guys props like you're not preachy about it you're hilarious about it uh but you talk you talk to you guys and you have like you're sensible you're not preachy about it you're hilarious about it uh but you talk you talk to
Starting point is 01:25:26 you guys and you have like you're sensible you're not like ideologues you know what i mean like that's i don't i think that's the lane we want to be in be in america have the whole the way we have things set up but be run by like sensible people that are like that's a little too far yeah sensible people probably see politics and they go like i don't want to do that that's crazy i'm sensible why would i get into this that's a fact yeah that's like if i know kevin o'leary the shark tank guy but he's been saying that recently he goes the dumbest thing i ever did was uh when i tried to run for president he's like i was like i was overnight you know i mean look at rfk right now just like tell me your life wasn't better right right i guess you know you have a higher ideal that you're like well yeah i think that it's i have to go yeah they
Starting point is 01:26:10 need they need me it's either one of the two like it has to be a mick and i'm not one of the two but a mix of that and you're just like no i'm the only person that could do this you kind of have some you know there's like a legacy component you need to you know believe that uh you're very important like there's a kind of a mix of things all together that you probably need to be like i'm gonna go this is what the next 15 years of my life is gonna be canada needs like a jordan peterson kind of leader but who can rein in some of like the rhetoric yeah and like just a strong man but somebody who can appeal he's gonna win this guy Is a conservative guy Really
Starting point is 01:26:46 Yeah He's like the first Prime minister He'll be the next prime minister Unless something crazy happens But When is that happening Next year
Starting point is 01:26:54 Cause It won't be the 2025 Cause Trudeau won't You guys Do an early election You guys gotta Celebrate on that day Yeah
Starting point is 01:27:01 You gotta do something I mean some people Some people still like Justin Trudeau Like Not very many Not very many But there are people some people still like Justin Trudeau. Not very many. Not very many, but there are people who, I made this Justin Trudeau fake video
Starting point is 01:27:09 and then I have someone, I think it's going around all these like liberal circles now because they keep getting like tagged in it where people are just like, like literally there's a hashtag that's like a PMJT where like people still love Justin Trudeau.
Starting point is 01:27:22 That's nuts. That's a propaganda campaign, man. But it's more that they hate. I'm telling you, I go back to them. Have you talked to one person? No, I've talked to normal people. The most you get is, do you remember when probably
Starting point is 01:27:33 after the Joe Biden-Trump debate, the level of like, even, you wouldn't, people would be like, yeah, I'm voting for him, but you didn't see it. No one was like, he's the man. Yeah, maybe that times 10 is not as good as, yeah, they might be like, I still voting for him. But you didn't see it. No one was like, he's the man. Yeah, maybe his like is not as good as...
Starting point is 01:27:46 Yeah, they might be like, I still prefer him, but... Yeah, people are just like, I'll never vote conservative. There's just people who are like, I can never vote conservative. I'm lifelong... Well, the problem with your system is that you don't vote for the prime minister. You vote for the party. I'm out of that. That's not my system.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Not my system, not my prime minister, not my PM. Not my problem. Yeah, no shit right but that's not gonna work here anymore but that's it that's what it is though because the parties can corrupt yeah you know i mean there was an individual there was a really like you know they have the whole like foreign interference russiagate here there was a real thing in canada that like wasn't even that big of a story where like the chinese like like the ccp was literally influencing like small uh like um writings essentially and like the outcomes of them and and like doing crazy shit where like people
Starting point is 01:28:32 were like worried for their like family's safety over this and it like but and it helped the liberals specifically because the ccp won the liberals in charge of course it was like kind of just like not that big of a story wow yeah like there's some people who are like yelling about it but then like the main news like don't really like pick it up it's just like was the trucker thing in canada was that national outrage like we saw it all over the i know a million people who are like these are the biggest pieces of shit on earth like that to me was a partisan one yeah that was a part so yeah yeah that was a big so people people were like okay wow yeah yeah that was i know lots of people who were like those truckers were fucking
Starting point is 01:29:08 despicable people like all this shit like yeah having that bouncy castle set up and yeah right yeah what are we doing tonight boys you guys uh are you doing the ripper danny went to the rivers what's the rivers oh we're going to the rippers god you fucking canucks i'm going to the feelers i'm i'm going to the rippers tonight boys because i missed last night i didn't drink last night or night before you're going to rippers tonight let's yeah yeah tonight i'm gonna do uh i'm doing uh josh adam meyers i used to he has this tv show and he does this these jams Where comedians sing songs The goddamn comedy jams Yeah so I'm doing Lit My Own Worst Enemy
Starting point is 01:29:49 Pretty good That's a pretty good song right Is that so fitting for this Do you remember all the things He sings it with you But I was trying to pick something That was like kind of funny That everyone knows the words to
Starting point is 01:30:02 Yeah So I'm doing that at 12 And then I'm down for anything. I haven't gambled yet. I haven't, I haven't done, uh, no.
Starting point is 01:30:10 What's your guys' biggest issues. Mine is, uh, sex and love addiction. Go race mixing, race mixing. Got it. That's a perfect,
Starting point is 01:30:17 uh, that means you're not racist. Yeah. I mix race, bro. I mix races. I didn't say where I stand. Yeah. It's not a problem. Sex addiction. Was you, did you go like you to the point where you go, that means you're not racist yeah i mix race bro i mix races yeah i didn't say where i stand yeah
Starting point is 01:30:25 it's not a problem right sex addiction was you did you go like you to the point where you go i have actually tried to solve this in my life yeah it was i was always able to rein in addiction like i tried to get addicted to cigarettes couldn't try to get addicted to blow just couldn't you know but like pussy you can get pussy pussy bro just keep fucking also drinking gets in there too because you're just like am i gonna you know yeah on these like sober dates yeah i'm out on the scene like let me turn this three and a half into a five you know uh no i don't drink a lot though you're a lot but but it's kind of la sober it's kind of hacked to say but uh but like but i'm a well you gotta drive everywhere in la so it's like it's just exactly justically drinking makes less
Starting point is 01:31:04 sense there and it's no fun yeah la's Exactly. Logistically, drinking makes less sense there. And it's no fun. Yeah. LA's whack. Nobody goes out and has fun. I mean, the last time I was there, I was like, this place is fucking- Exactly. Missing something.
Starting point is 01:31:12 I was the most addicted to money. That was the big thing. Like, everybody in prison was mostly an addict. And I, dude, like, it just, I never cared about drugs. You know, I never, when I sold Coke, I would just taste it. But then I would never, I'm like, this is profit. And so that's probably one of the biggest keys to my success in the drug game was money was the goal and nothing would get in the way.
Starting point is 01:31:33 You don't have that now? Now it's... I mean, when we were talking last night, you guys were... We're talking Bitcoin investments. We became bros so fast, dude. It went from fucking chicks to fucking bit to all coins dude we were talking there's another dude we're like just the most typical fucking crypto bros at the fucking casino we were already solana no no ethereum dude um no but now it's such
Starting point is 01:31:57 a better life because i see i'm like dude i never needed to sell drugs to like become successful like there's just so many ways especially now to make money if you're a creative person if you're were you like if you would have been a good criminal there's a better way to do it yeah for sure for sure i didn't ball out no i mean so you're like you weren't even like putting it to good use it's not like i like i know some guys in that lifestyle and they're like yeah they fucking live that life like so at least the money goes to support something like they need to do it to right support what they're doing most people will tell you man the money came came out went out as
Starting point is 01:32:29 quick as it came in but like i knew it was gonna end so i was socking it away i really in my mind created this like i'm gonna get out and turn this into like a legitimate fucking empire which you could have i could have i had enough money we got to like three mil and then you know went and bought a bunch of property you know totally properties that could have easily went you know i was going to real estate like it actually changed my life because i was like oh my god because i i grew up in like middle class fucking you know uh go to school and work your way up and get a job and fuck the same girl and i never wanted any of that. But I didn't know. I'm like, oh, investing, capitalism, business. So I had all this money.
Starting point is 01:33:08 I was like, this is life-changing. So it opened the door to this whole other world of building wealth. And even though I lost it all, it was the best thing that ever happened to me because I got this hot podcast now. And now I know what to do with the money. Also, when you lose it once there's the probably less of a fear of losing it in a weird way for sure because i can making money you can always go get some money you're a real g you know so uh yeah i don't know i'm a real g no you're a real g bro both of you are real g's
Starting point is 01:33:41 dude i'm telling you i'm telling so everybody should go do a couple years in prison you're gonna be fine dude you're gonna be just fine dude you're gonna get out and you're gonna have a hot podcast I guess final question that you've been asked a million times but I have to ask it is how much gay sex was going on yeah how many times I got my cheeks
Starting point is 01:33:58 I'm not asking you I'm just saying in general is it everywhere or is it something you don't even hear about? Dude, 99% of the sucking and fucking in prison is consensual. That's a fact. I will put my stat over. I mean,
Starting point is 01:34:18 no, no, no, no. They, you should hear my episode with this Rikers Island guy. This is a Rikers Island CEO. They were,
Starting point is 01:34:23 they're definitely rape is used as like a violence to like get get people in line but it's very like in the penitentiary it's very rare like but they had this thing called uh it was a code word that the ceos would yell if they caught you doing gay shit they would yell disengage so if you were walking around the prison and you pass by a closet you just hear disengage they caught somebody fucking having hanky panky yeah committing sin sinning to me well that's when you see the locusts start popping up you go are you guys having oh my god there's a frog in my fucking my tray my food tray every time rodney were you fucking hell yeah yeah well definitely yeah go check out the what's the it's called the connect because
Starting point is 01:35:11 you have two though right because you have your personal channel then you have the podcast yeah yeah yeah yeah so um the connect with johnny mitchell is the podcast that's you know obviously the youtube channel but also it's spotify wherever you get podcasts and then uh yeah my personal channel i i'm gonna start putting more comedy on there uh but i do you know topical videos i talk about like cartel shit in the news riding horses through the yeah yeah i went down to compton and rode horses with uh some crips that ride horses now you know uh so yeah check it out and uh at instagram if you wouldn't mind at no i am johnny mitchell uh i could use some help on there go check out the freeway rick ross interview yeah that's a go you like that one sick yeah yeah you you saw that part he was like i was the only thing i cooked
Starting point is 01:35:55 up 200 kilos at a time yeah they would go buy those industrial like vault vats vats of of like they use in big industrial kitchens. Yeah. Like, like for beer or something. Yeah. And they would dump, just fucking open the bricks and just cook up crazy,
Starting point is 01:36:12 crazy bro. Yeah. Crazy story. Yeah. Yeah. So I appreciate it guys. Yeah. Definitely check that out.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Yeah. You're the man dude. All right. Peace. Peace out.

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