The Boyscast with Ryan Long - Lewis Spears on The Boyscast

Episode Date: May 22, 2020

Lewis Spears is an Australian Comedian, troublemaker and sensation who sells out theatres across the globe and has over 500K subscribers on youtube. This guy has messed with the media so much and it has been hilarious to watch. We talk about Australia, Canada and US differences, productivity, girlfriends, and our different stories of causing shit over the years while making videos.  Don't forget to email questions to [e-mail] and if you want to support the kid and get extra episodes as well as early releases and extra standup at patreon.com/theboyscast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

And you can tell our friends, and they can have my things when we're dead But we don't end forever But we don't end forever Boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys Boys! I'm pumped! I just finished my conversation with Lou Spears, you're about to listen to I thought this was super cool, man

Lou hit me up on Instagram actually once. And then, so we ended up getting to talking and chatting about stuff. I didn't realize the extent to which he's killing it. I had heard of him before. But going through his stuff, I was kind of like, man, this guy's the man. Love talking to him. He's got sort of the same sensibilities as me. We talked about everything.

I tried to keep stand-up to a minimum. Every time i have a stand-up on which actually this is the first time i'm like fuck i don't want to talk about stand up the whole the whole time so i try to keep that to somewhat of a minimum the guy just had he's a super smart dude he's got amazing opinions on lots of different stuff he has an interesting way of thinking of life he's just a very successful dude. He's positive, but still a dirty dog. You know what I mean? He's one of those guys that he's, he's cynical and he's, he's, he's, uh, his comedy has fucking venom in there, but he's a positive human being. He's literally one of the biggest comedians in Australia. And normally I know I don't like

Australians. That's, but Lou's one of the good ones. I'm telling you, I'm putting my stamp on. He's one of the good ones. This guy fills theaters like all over the world. He's got over 500,000 subscribers on YouTube. He's always in the news. They're always covering him on the news for trolling the media and stuff like that and places like Vice, which is kind of a little bit what I do too. So I got the scoop on all that stuff.

I mean, this guy's just been killing it. Anyways. I thought, I thought this was a really cool episode. So I hope you guys enjoy the conversation that I had with them. Cause I, I literally finished talking to him and I was kind of like hyped up. I was like, yeah, fuck yeah. Lou rules, man. That was cool. I hope he moves to New York. So in addition to that, I did just start my Patreon. There's a bunch of stuff i i released a little thing last episode for you uh a little half episode for you to see but if you want to donate to me that's fucking cool i'm gonna be putting a ton of stuff up there i mean listen i've always

for my whole time i've been making stuff my opinion a little bit has been i like to be someone's favorite comedian you know what i mean more so than be in the mix whereas like everyone knows who I am it's always been like important to me whatever I'm making I always want to be like someone's favorite thing where people like I'm their guy like that's the way that I have guys where I'm like no that's my fucking so I've always kind of thought of that so hopefully some people think like that about me if so I have uh I'm gonna be doing I switch between doing interviews and my solo podcast. So I'll probably do the reverse when I put stuff on the Patreon.

So anyways, I hope you guys liked it. Lou Spears is the fucking man. Check out all his shit. And if you want more shit, check out my Patreon. Yeah, because my family would be like, yo, when are you coming back to Canada to hang out? And I'd be like, I mean, yeah, we can hop on zoom this month if you want fucking never do you get the point of why i moved yeah yeah i'm like yeah i mean for sure if you want to pop grandma on a zoom but that's we can do a

christmas zoom if you'd like isn't that weird that you're like a day ahead right now it is weird i'm in the future bro right so much has happened i guess every i guess because you because you're in Australia, like you've probably done so much American stuff. They're so used to this, but yeah, it might immediately, my mind goes to like, there's gotta be something you can scam, right? Like in the stock is the stock market. Like, how can you take advantage of the fact that you're in the future? I mean, we can talk about that because I've been definitely taking advantage of that. How, what what's what have you been doing so so our our stock market is like different to america's but basically if something terrible happens what your stock market is open when ours is closed yeah so if something terrible or amazing happens we have like 24 hours

notice when no one can buy anything to like put in orders and trade accordingly really yeah how does that work though but why wouldn't that just work the other way around too if they're on opposite schedules yeah but no one in america is looking at australia because our there's like compared to america we don't have as much money it's not no i'm not looking at literally not looking at you're so right because i trade a little bit in canada because i'm from there but there would be i would never think like oh let me pour a bunch of money into fucking australia yeah right and i don't think you're it's even strictly legal for foreign people to do it. I think you need like permission or some shit. So you can kind of look at what happens in America.

Like with the coronavirus, there was a massive crash. So I was like, okay, I'm going to wait three days here and then put money in. Yeah. And then that's what I did and it worked. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I was sort of doing that all the way down to. I was talking about that at the beginning because when it first crashed, I literally was like, okay,

I'm going to buy this all the way down because I was like sitting on kind of cash. But then I, I basically was like, you know, you're supposed to go like, you know, 5,000, 5,000. I was like, I just did it all in like three days. I was like, yeah, buying the way down assuming that it goes down for two days. I fucking just like dump the gun like so hard on it that's exactly what i did all in as soon as it went all the way down i went all in lucky i was right because i think australia is handling it much better than america uh but yeah it could it could have been the end

of me dude i'm i'm still i actually still am, but that's even, that's with me making like brutal moves. I'm still up like whatever, six grand or something like that. But that was me like screwing up every step of the way and making some fucking pussy ass moves. Well, yeah. I mean, I think, I think now with everything dropping, it's like the, no, it's almost like almost impossible to fail long-term is kind of how I look at it.

But now America's like basically back where, where, what started, which is hilarious. Cause you're like, yeah, some of these companies like dropped to the big bottom and then now they're basically what they're, where they were. And you're like, they haven't been open for six months and they may never open again. How are they possibly worth the same? I know it's crazy. It's all, it makes you realize that all this shit is fucking imaginary like it's

just it's like currency in a video game you know it only has value because we're all like oh yeah that's what I believe a dollar is a dollar because I think it is dude it just made yeah it makes me laugh like I can't think of specific companies but there's literally companies that you know are straight up closed they haven't made a dollar in four months they went to zero and everyone's like no no we actually think that's good again yeah it's nuts dude fucking awakening coming oh there's a bunch of companies that are like worth twice as much as they were i mean that's that's fine but the um i saw today the because people are you know i don't know if it's like this in australia where people are essentially getting pretty fed up with uh coronavirus and they're just not social distancing anymore yeah yeah is that what it's like this in Australia where people are essentially getting pretty fed up with coronavirus and they're just not social distancing anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Is that what it's like for you guys?

It's not as bad as what I see on the news in America. I don't know how close that is to reality though, but like, well, I think it's, I think, yeah, people just a few of our States reopened because they had no cases. So they should reopen. So they reopened, but they closed all their borders. But Victoria, where I am, we have it the worst. And all of us saw like Perth reopen.

And we were like, oh, it's over. Like no one's social distancing anymore. Businesses are coming back open. And it's like, we are still dealing with it. But because some state that does has no cases isn't, you know, doing what doing we're like oh it's over we won that's what it feels like in new york to every other state they're they're fucking cruising around they're having parties and i'm sitting here with my dick in my hand the funniest part i've talked about this here a little bit before but there's there's so outside of my house there's like 25 guys that sell fucking junk

like and they haven't they haven't slowed down in the slightest we're talking like last time i went there the guy was selling a deflated basketball he had just like a couple ziploc bags but nothing in the zip like he was selling the actual ziploc bags just like yeah there was one guy he was selling a bag of quarters and i guess you just you just predict with it so these guys have been going full force and the cops came this is this morning i woke up because every morning i wake up to them yelling and screaming at the top of their lungs they and they're playing on the shit on their boom boxes it's like a fucking you know it's like a party

and the cops come there's like 25 cops and they have the megaphones and they go social distancing needs to happen it feels like fucking robocop you know what i mean they literally have that's crazy yeah pops over the megaphones step six feet away no one near each other and they're going on and on and then the fucking the junk sellers they're super sassy with the cops so they go you'll be fucking six feet away motherfucker and they start yelling and screaming at the cops because before they saw them cuss them out before and then this time their whole thing was why don't you fucking six feet away you ain't six feet away from me right now and these guys are going crazy and i was i'm what i'm looking out my window and then someone looks up and i just back away because i get i get spotted peeking i try to get videos on my phone so they're yelling and screaming and

then the cops always just fucking get in their car and leave they give up every single time that's so funny no it's fucking amazing i went to a underground rave, not a rave, but like, yeah. So yesterday, this was yesterday, the first time. So a bunch of comedian friends that I won't mention their names. Cause they're all like, like I'm pretty, I'm not, I don't care as much, but a lot of people are pretty, they don't want to be seen, you know, distancing or whatever. Yeah. What's your stance on that are you kind of oh bro i'm taking it serious as fuck i've got asthma so i'm an at-risk person i i uh remember that i first heard about it i think before it was like

mainstream uh you knew it when it was still cool yeah yeah i was like a fan of coronavirus before it was you like the corona's first album in china before it got mainstream yeah i thought their their original work was really good you know destroying a communist state and all the subversion that they had to commit i was really a big fan of that uh but when they started you know killing white grandmas i thought oh this is a bit much um but uh i've i i saw it and i saw it come and i was like oh australia is so close to china we're gonna be fucked uh and so i kind of stayed inside before it was mandatory but i think australia has kind of got really lucky like more than anything else I don't think we had particularly good I don't know I think we just didn't get many people come over with it like New York the amount of cases you guys have and no it's like it's a bit it's a it's a pandemic over here yeah it's

fucking crazy and and like Italy and all those other countries I thought for sure Australia would be fucked because we have so much chinese tourism and trade and people from but we're kind of fine yeah well this is that's another people that people will say that in other states you look san francisco handled it better and whatever and you're like yeah it's not fucking new york city like that's go look at the amount of people from china that went to fucking san francisco and the amount that looked went to new york city it's the hub of the world yeah obviously there's more here you gotta how could you fight something like that in new york like you guys uh packed in so tight like when i went out when i went there for the first time i couldn't fucking believe how many people there were yeah like in melbourne which is our biggest city in

the country i can literally walk from one end of the city to the other and i can watch the city end in new york you couldn't do that in days what's the population oh it's like a few million 25 million i think okay that's a lot 20 do you say 25 million i think i'm very wrong i have no idea i know toronto is like the fifth biggest here that's where i'm from and that's like yeah six million and i think new york's like 25 only because i always have these conversations okay i'm a fucking moron and it's definitely not 25 million maybe that's the entire population of the whole country yeah who gives a shit but either way that's everyone's fucking yelling i don't know if it's a saying there, but literally the fucking Trump,

they go, the governors go, Trump should have fucking, he should have done this earlier. And then Trump goes to them and is like, you should have done your thing earlier. Like every single person was, you know, they're all yelling at each other that they should have closed everything earlier. And you're like, yeah. Like the first thing anyone says, like, yeah, this looks like it's bad.

If they all just shut everything down,'s like so what like obviously they did it five days later i don't know who's like everyone just wants to find someone to blame for it it's it's so crazy that's the biggest difference between like where i live in america is like how how like little accountability the leader of the country can claim because like if the leader of australia was like ah you know fucking the governor of victoria didn't do his job we'd kill him we'd chop his head off but oh yeah for sure we go no that's your fault with the politicians oh absolutely with the bushfire rules with the bushfire With the bushfire crisis If he dishonors the tribe He fucking loses his mystical

Absolutely With the bushfire thing Our prime minister He was on holiday before it happened What's with the bushfire? Is that 9-11? Yeah, that's our 9-11 George Bush created a fire in the Twin Towers

The Jewish guy, Bill Bush. Yeah, that's true. I do think that the Bush fires was started by Bill Gates, actually. I've been doing a lot of researching. Not a lot of people know that, but that is actually true, yeah. Yeah, that is true. You can look it up. I mean, the information's out there.

If you don't want to look, you don't want to look. Yeah, I mean, that was actually yeah yeah because his plan now is to shoot dust into the ozone layer to block the sun his original plan was just to burn down australia to block the sun with smoke so bill gates actually started the fires i heard he had the cure for small penises this guy is on it right now oh yeah i i think um he has that because you're taking that at the moment you know what the cure for small penises no more only black people from here on out just get rid of white people no i think that's what that that's what hitler was trying to do he hated small penises yeah that's so he was starting

with jews because obviously yeah but he kind of fucked up when he like teamed up with japan you know that kind of went against his interests there no but you gotta you gotta make a deal with the devil sometime you know you gotta you gotta make to make an egg you gotta break a few almonds is that i think so but yeah the the prime minister of australia he was on holiday before the fires and he didn't come home even though like they always get a job over being on holiday it's like a class yeah like we didn't really need him there like the emergency people were on it he didn't have to be there but he like it's always good that coronavirus happened for his job because without it he would just be that guy that wasn't there when the country was burning

down oh they love that shit yeah the, whenever like a new hot thing comes, you should, these guys are like, yes. Yeah. They love it. Oh yeah. That was really, he's like redeeming his point of redemption. He's like, I fucked up the fires, but man, I know I can nail stopping immigration.

I can fucking nail that. You know, a good old bit of Australian racism. Oh yeah. No, what? Don't let asians into the country we did that in 1980 we've already got the plans let's reinstate it i always say that with a other country with japan because people are like you know my country's racist like we they don't want like have they want to have less muslims you're like japan's like we haven't

had a muslim since 1942 they're literally they're so old that they don't have enough workers. And they're like, you know, you can't retire if we don't bring in people. They're like, no, no, no, I'm good. Oh, I will dig up the trench. Like they don't give a fuck. They're like, okay, whatever. I'll work till I'm 150.

As long as it meets the Muslims. All those Asian countries are so crazy in how like homogenous they can be without anyone really getting angry at them. Oh yeah, they're allowed to. Well, I respect the fact that they have people of color in government and high positions.

That's true. You know, did you know that 99% of their parliament is a person of color? I mean, that's a progressive country. That's fucking diverse, I would say. That's crazy diverse but yeah this fucking underground thing i went to i was literally like it's it's not about the it's more about oh i people are over it like i just got a call and someone was like yo roll through we're having this party so they opened up the bottom of this fucking club and it was like

one of those cool clubs with ping pong and everything like that and there was like 25 people there no one gave a shit everyone's like straight up like high fives and the whole thing so that that's illegal there right yeah i don't know if you know this but i'm a little bit of a bad boy so yeah yeah that's fucking tough so the business was breaking the law you are right ping pong is illegal yeah they shouldn't have had that there well well as it should be you know they blew it with coronavirus now there's no more asian should be. You know, they blew it with coronavirus. Now there's no more Asian-influenced sport. That's why, yeah, yeah.

I did this joke back in the day when I was saying, because they were getting their NBA. I was saying if they were going to take the NBA out of China, then we should get rid of Chinese stuff here, like karate and fucking sex with blurry dicks. Yeah, that's good. I'm trying to write a joke but I think it might be fucking dead by the time this shit ends and I can perform again of like I think that all Asian

food needs to be restricted to like single ingredients like they've blew it you know they're putting too much shit into their food like they're putting bats in we get pangolins and that's how we get more viruses so like you know we're gonna start with rice and we move on from there absolutely just white rice you know combination noodles you've lost the privilege it's it's beef or chicken and there's no more mixing yeah dude period it's gonna be so weird

going back to stand up after this whole thing. When like, you know, especially people that have like acts that, you know, aren't about anything important. Like, you know, the subway is weird. And everyone's like, well, yeah, I mean, because of Corona, definitely. And you're like, no, the seats are wet. No shit. All of that relatable stuff is going to be out because everyone's just going to be in their, their homes for so long yeah i think i think a lot a lot of us i mean myself included i think a lot of us are going to be

very bad when we come back because you know you take some you take a little bit of time off stand up if i take three weeks off i get back on stage and i fucking feel that i've never taken a year off stand up i don't know what kind of act i'm gonna be when i come back from that you know we're all gonna fucking suck dick at stand up yeah but the only potential good thing is it might thin the herd enough that you're worse but it also cut like a lot of people i thought i thought that what i thought was like i think a lot of people during this time and this might go for any interest. A lot of people are going to realize, oh fuck, I hated that.

Why did I do that every night? That was terrible. I was literally only in it for the social and the power and the gossip. I hate standup and I'm bad at it. I'm never going back. And that's great. That's kind of what I've been saying where it's like, you know, people are going to, you know, cause people are going to fucking watch movies, you know, come home from their normal job and then like watch movies with their girlfriend and fucking go hang out with their friends. And like,

they're gonna be like, Oh yeah, this is better. What the fuck I was doing out there. Like what was I doing for the last eight years? I wasn't funny. All I did was bully open micers. This is sad. Yeah, dude. I'm using my fucking like clout from doing this for 10 years to go do open mics and bomb instead of coming home and eating chips on my fat belly like who is this for yeah who's this benefit and then also not

fighting my like fucking girlfriend because i'm like no you don't get it this is the dream even though you're 42 like yeah this is over for some people it's not about making it it's about the art and i know i'm not good about i'm not i'm not good at the art either but it's kind of not about that too oh yeah dude by the way um you've been um you've been probably one of the most productive people in this thing because you know you this this shit really does separate people that are fucking lazy and people that are not because there's so many people that are like i just don't have the time for this and that and then you're like you have three months to sit in your house and you've done nothing so yeah or like you've done one thing and

it's a piece of shit but i saw you you started a new studio you got fucking you got it cooking right now yeah yeah absolutely bro there's there's opportunity in everything like when you do the online and the stand-up thing at the same time it's so difficult because often especially when you tour the online thing just naturally has to kind of fall off a little bit because you got to do the shows and that's the most important thing and stand-up's always number one did you just but like do you bank videos yeah i try to bank content but it doesn't always work and and because i because stand-up is for me always the number one that often the online thing falls away and i've always thought for like years i'm like man if i could do just online for one year i would fucking blow up so hard like i've

been needing to focus on online content for a year, four or five years. You know what I mean? So I feel like this is that opportunity. See, I agree with you. But the one thing that is for me, cause you know,

it depends on your type of content, but you're kind of a fucking troublemaker. And you know, I actually want to talk about that in a bit, but the stuff you do, it's like, it really does. Cause I,

so I do agree with you that there's especially for three months but i think if it starts to get to six seven months you're gonna fucking lose it because it there's two ways you can go on the internet right it's like one you kind of go like you know the mainstream and you kind of you know you almost appeal to like what you might call like a normie content or whatever you know what i mean yeah or you go the other way where you're kind of like being on the edge and your fringes so and if you're not in the stand-up clubs like actually knowing what people want i find it's hard to fucking straddle that line right you either go yeah full out i'm just like you know mr fucking edgelord or you go fucking the guy with a meme page because it's like that's what

gets you clicks right but if you lose your the guy with a meme page because it's like that's what gets you clicks right but if you lose your internal compass that's on stage because you when you're on stage with real people you're like i know what the actual thing is for like how far you want to push it that i feel comfortable do you know what i mean yeah it it's it's a definitely interesting interesting thing i think that i have a have a good gauge for that because i i started online a year before i started stand-up for me i always i wanted to be a stand-up but i and i kind of fell into the online thing accidentally because i loved youtube and all that kind of shit so i've kind of been oh i i just like like with all of the trolling and the fucking with people and causing controversies

i just did that for fun by myself on like forums like 4chan like trolling shit and then facebook fucking with people before facebook had like good moderation you could get away with a lot of shit like we would go and start arguments with people for no reason that we... This is before you were ever putting it on YouTube. Yeah. So this is like 2012 is when I fell into it when I was like 18 in high school. We would just go in and start arguments with people and then screenshot the whole arguments of us like being obnoxious or wrecking people or arguing for something that's definitely wrong. And then we would just post that.

And that's kind of how we got it going. But that was only for fun, just being an asshole to amuse myself. And then I was kind of my question to get this audience. And then it's the first thing you started posting arguments, like just arguing with random people on on facebook i think one of one of the this is like early early days of facebook when the moderation was shit so you didn't get banned for anything i remember even when they brought in banning we worked out that if you just kept clicking post it would just work so it would say you're banned for 24 hours and we would just go click click click click click and it would go up anyway you could squeeze it through the algorithm yeah it was and i one of the first stunts that i did and this was like completely anonymously there was this big huge page that was sponsored by some hair

beauty thing and it was called model search and they ran this competition every year that was fucking huge in austral Australia where you would post a photo of yourself and on their page and if they picked you you would become like the brand ambassador and what I did was I created a fake model search page and at that time on Facebook you couldn't differentiate there was no blue tick or anything so I would go on all of these like fan submitted things I go sorry we don't want black people in our competition you go on a real i'll do a fat girl i go sorry you're over the weight limit yeah we'd go to like this ugly girl go congratulations you've won

and literally did it for two hours on like hundreds and hundreds of posts. And then the page ends up going into lockdown. It made like headlines because everyone thought it was from that company. Then they had to like shut down their whole page, go through and delete all of my posts. It took them three hours. I used that three hours to organize 10 other friends to create 10 other pages. As soon as they launched it back up, we did it. And then model search never happened again. Oh, dude, that's so fucking funny. friends to create 10 other pages come on as soon as they launched it back up we did it and then

model search never happened again oh dude that's so fucking funny there's because that's what i was gonna say it was like how you got into it i was like were you someone that was always into that shit before and then it's because it sounds like because i remember literally doing all this shit like having me and my friends used to have so many big dating sites and i remember being 14 right yeah fucking like filming videos you know taking the the van out and just doing like a 40 point turn in front of our in front of like the the school bus just like all the i remember uh in high school like one of our first big ones was taking the french teacher's uh a dvd and replacing it with a porno so she put the porn in and then we come back we go oh miss baldman you pervert that's so good that's yeah you were

because you're probably a little younger than me so you're fucking did way more of that online where i'm out here with a fucking camera still when i was like 12 yeah i i think that's i i think that it was the online thing and and i eventually just, I made like a Facebook page for myself just to kind of collate it. It was really just to like laugh with my friends. And then that started to get likes. And then a year into it, I was like, oh, what I'm doing is comedy. This is a thing.

I could turn this into stand-up because I always wanted to do stand-up. Yeah. But I didn't really understand like how and then I had this like tiny little audience and then I was like okay well I have this crowd but I've never done stand-up I want to do shows so I started doing stand-up like open mics when you know when you're terrible and all that kind of stuff like five nights a week and I kept it a secret this is a whole thing I gotta to do. It's completely different. Hey, like being funny online is so different to being funny on stage.

I was, I had my TV show and Canada and like success with his band before I did stand up too. So I kind of had, I'm just a little older than you, but I had the same similar kind of trajectory. It sucks. Yeah. You go out and you're like,

people kind of know who you are and they like stack the lineups to make you bomb. If you're in the club, you know what I mean? You're just like, it's fucking sucks. And you have to, it's almost like you have to fucking, I mean, it's not, you're a funny dude. I bet you were like, I don't know if you went through the same thing, but you're like kind of fine at first. And then you, then you have to,

you're like almost fine at first. And then I kind of sucked for like three years. Then I kind of like got good again. That's what happened to me. My first ever set, set i did the comics lounge which is like a comedy club the only one in melbourne and 500 people on a friday night i should that should not have been my first set but they put me on because they they liked me dude and they saw something and i went on and i smashed my first five minutes and i got off stage and i was like i'm a fucking prodigy i'm the best comedian ever yeah this is my first set i'm gonna be dave chappelle and then my second set and my third all the way up to like my first year i was fucking terrible you're just in the middle of

fucking a stool having like a moment to yourself like yeah this fucking this this was smashing last night in front of 500 people maybe i just need to come that'll be the punchline oh fuck but yeah but it's it's it is funny you know what i was gonna say about yeah i dropped you but because with the the getting good and stuff i wanted to ask you this too because because you're fucking you're like uh you've got sort of like a bad boy image too like i've seen you wear like a leather jacket on and shit and rings like i do did you have to absolutely bro i got it in my fucking closet i got the rings over there it's all happening you're just the canadian me dude rock and roll homie but did i felt like when i because you know people fucking hate on that shit and you're like wow whatever but

i always find when people are like yo fuck you look fuck is doing you're like whatever i'm gonna stand up comedy so that's all that matters but it's almost like when i fucking when i started i had to like tone down my image and everything to figure out stand up and then once i like got good again and i was killing all the time it's like then i started like i pulled out the drawer with the rings now it's like we're back baby oh yeah well that's you gotta do that you gotta get what once you get the skills it's like you can put a lot of people yeah but like it's like what do you want do you want me to fucking get on in a t-shirt and jeans like every other fucking comedian you got to look like something a lot of a lot of people and a lot of comics are like oh you having a an image and a look is bad

it's like okay guy with brown hair that was funny because that's the only thing the punter's gonna remember oh that dude with the glasses is good it's like be someone so that your material can shine and be remembered remember yeah it's also people fucking hate effort period right it's like you know yes it's like and i get that and you know there's a you know there is that's why some sometimes the the new fucking stuff's so confusing where everyone's like, you got to hustle hard. And it's like, you know, half the people are like, Oh, anyone who tries hard is a fucking loser.

And half the people are like anyone who's not working from eight to eight. It's like, can there be an hour middle ground? It's like, you're either, I've worked 24 hours. I haven't slept a blink or like, I don't know. I'm just fucking so amazing. You've got to work efficiently otherwise you you're just like a japanese businessman that works hard for his family and it gets to 50 and shoots himself right do you have that because you seem like you know and when i saw you got that put it setting up your studio i was getting jealous because i used to have that in canada i had like a fucking studio with my boys we called it the pirate ship we had

like a bunch of reds and we had like, we had like 10 different cameras, all the lights, everyone had some gear. So we had like six different offices. By the end, there was like 12 of us there just all fucking dirty dog, like filmmakers that used to be fucking whatever skateboarders and band guys and shit, but everyone's doing cool shit. And then when I came to New York, it's like, you know, I kind of started over and I saw you setting that up, which people, I actually, I met a guy from Australia when I was doing helium comedy club and he was, I was, I was, this is when I've,

cause me and you were chatting on a, on Instagram and stuff. And I was telling him, I just like, do you know him? And he was like, he said you were kind of like the, uh, uh, Australian Andrew Schultz. That's how he kind of like explained. That's cool. That's nice. He just did that. He's just set up a fucking big studio in Brooklyn. It's like, you're setting up your fucking studio, you got your thing. And I remember hearing you mention that, you know, you got to have somewhere where you go to work and somewhere where you where you live. And I think that's super important to systemize things, right? Like, so do you are you how how much do you actually

systemize things in your life where you're like how how how much do you actually systemize things in your life where you're like this what i do this day this what i do at this time yeah i i try to do that as much as possible because like you you have to work efficiently because it's like yeah working hard is cool but if your definition of working on is like ramming your face against the wall that is hard yes but are you achieving anything other than a headache um so i i tried it to structure it so like efficiency and effectiveness is important too you can't just be efficient yeah because it's like oh i got so much done look at all this i got done and you're like what was it like i just wrote like fucking my name over and over again on a paper like

fucking 8 000 times but you look at the pro like how much got done like it has to matter too right yeah so i heard on the wrong thing i try to structure my shit so i i i i've got my solo podcast speed Sundays that i do once a week and then i got Luke and Lewis that i do twice a week and then i try to do two videos on my main channel a week as well i generally hit one but i'm trying to do two and And it just comes down to like, no, I'll do them like separate days. But I also kind of worked out a really good thing to do is to just if you can figure out a format that you can pre film, like something that's not topical, but still funny. Like I got some series called cooking without instructions where I just try and cook shit, but I don't have a recipe. got all the ingredients but none of the instructions yeah and like that's funny whenever you know what

i mean as long as i'm not talking about like oh here's why reagan's a bad president in the middle of the episode i'm good that can come out whenever hey what are some of your tips for people for efficiency what's like do you have any good ones? Bro, put your phone in a different room. That thing is cancer. I try to do that. It's so hard because like when you're making social media, content for social media, it's almost like scrolling through Facebook and Instagram and YouTube is work.

It kind of is because you've got to understand what other people are talking about and what's in the noise kind of shit. I'm sure any job can convince themselves that that's the case. You know what I mean? Yeah, right. So I try to, yeah, sorry. I look at it in the morning

and then I throw it away and I do some writing and then I'll fucking bring it back up because I often found myself just scrolling forever and I'm like, oh, I'm being productive because I'm understanding news. And it's like, no, you're looking at tits, bro. Let's be real. Do you know what I think that's true with you two

that like it seems like you do where I try to say, okay, there's a thing where it's like, you know, standups would be like, you know, I'm always just thinking of jokes all the time or whatever. And the same way that you said, you know, I'm going to keep the work in the studio And then when I go home, I'm not going to think of

that point of it. Right. So in the short term, you're actually worse off to say, you know what, like for me, I try to say, I'm only going to write two hours every day for standup. That's what I used to do in the morning. And then I try to do all my like creative before one, that's what I used to think of. So in the short term, that's actually worse because a lot of times you're like, you know, if I'm full focused full focused all in you know i'd be thinking all day long it's like but in the long term you're going to be better off because you have a more sustainable system so i try to yeah you burn out that like that's a real thing i remember like when i say your parameters for whatever your job is that like in a way that matters right yeah you have to you have to be careful with your brain because if

you want if you want to be doing this for like fucking, whether it's music or whatever, if you want to be doing it for like 50 years is what you're looking at, you need to like it. It can't be a chore. And if you're doing it 18 hours a day, you're going to kill yourself.

No, there's no way to do it. I know. That's one thing I've been trying to, like even with video sometimes, like, and again, you've been giving me a lot of tips with that stuff. That's kind of one of the things we were to like even with videos sometimes like and again you've been giving me a lot of tips with that stuff that's kind of one of the things we were first talking about because i'm just like you know i just started all my fucking youtube and everything

when i moved here right but yeah literally um the i'll like make four videos and i'll be like i'll say i'll put them out on monday and then you're like oh maybe i'll just put this out this is like stick to your fucking schedule this is like a long yeah thing but it's just so tempting to just be like well i made more why don't i put out more it's like because the reason you made more was to fucking save you time next week you fucking idiot yeah i do that all the time i'm like or the other thing is like i'll make four and then i'll keep my schedule but i'll be like man i've made four videos i don't have to do anything it's like no this is when you work that That's why you did those. So you had the time to hit the next four down. You idiot. Yeah, dude.

I'm I even feel like even talking about this right now, I always go back and forth. I'm like, is it, cause is it cool? Like should you just fucking be the guy that works really hard? Doesn't tell anyone. And then you show up and you're like, I don't know. I don't even write standup. I just fucking think of it all on stage. So many standups do that. And they're like this guy and then all the new stand-ups are people believe it like this guy says he doesn't even write i'm like he's fucking lying to you you stupid idiot yeah for sure there was a what hey because you have a girlfriend you said right yeah what do you think of uh do you go back did you used to go back and

forth efficiency wise like and i feel like people in every career i go back did you used to go back and forth efficiency wise like and i feel like people in every career i've go back i used to go back and forth so much of like fuck like is this the move should i have a girl or am i worse off with it i don't like uh before i tell you my perspective what do you what's your like take on that do you have you is that something you had to like struggle with sort of initially so i've been with my girlfriend for since i was uh 18 so a really long time so i haven't really had much single perspective but my initial perspective was man girls get in the way and i had a real whore period in my life that 18 years i was when i had the social media following i had a real whore period and And fucking pipe? Oh, no, no, no.

I was, no, no, no. A whore period in that I was dating one whore from 14 to 18. Yeah. So I was doing that and it did get in the way, but then I found the right person and, and it, it, she made it better and was able to help, I suppose. And, and also I think having someone that genuinely gives a fuck and knows who you are can often go,

hey, you're wasting your life doing this bullshit when you could be doing that. Don't you see when you do this, it makes you do that? So often, you know, having someone who gives a fuck about you can direct you in a positive way. But then you could also have someone uh like yoko ono who directs you in the incorrect way i've seen that so much man right so you got to be real careful i think i have the opposite of yoko but i've seen a lot of fucking yokos going around i think what i have is very rare and guys don't know how to

handle it i kind of like i kind of there's two parts one the first part is like there's a bit of it where it is the long game thing before it's like i used to be like fuck i'm i'm better when i'm like this i'm better like that and i'm like it's fucking marginal and over a long period of time none of that's gonna matter as long as you fucking do the work it's gonna fucking even out probably in the end part if you actually if you actually are doing the work these little bits of, you know, or maybe I'm more inspired when I'm whatever, that's marginal, right? So if you do the work, you're fine either way. And then the second part, I was kind of like, I think this is probably the best way that I was just thinking of this yesterday. So that's why I'm like bringing

it up. But yeah, it's almost like, you know, moving to a new country and stuff like that, it probably would, there were benefits of being single and stuff like that. Like there was benefits of being able to have no one to account for but when you're systemizing things the way you are uh and the way that i have it lots of periods in my life would you know um is when you're saying like i'm gonna do this at this time this at this time when you're when you're in a fucking structured movement and you know whether that's a job or whatever it is trying to build i think that's better with a girlfriend but when you're like yeah I don't know if I'm doing this or I'm doing this I'm doing this it's hard to have a girl when you don't know what you want to work hard on

yet but once you have the thing and it's right and you just have to like do the work you know what I mean and and kind of uh stay focused I think a girl can help a lot of ways. Yeah, I think so. I think, yeah, you're right in terms of fitting it in when you have just one person rather than seven people who aren't really your people. You're just chasing pussy. It's like maybe instead of doing that podcast, you'd be like, you know what?

I reckon I'd rather try anal and that fucks your podcast. And what's really more important than your fucking buttholes in trouble because you thought exactly classic. Yeah. And then, and also it's kind of the same thing we're talking about before where it's like, dude, like Drake fucking Drake said, you want to get anything done? You got to stay away from pussy. But when you're systemizing things and you're like, Hey, I'm going to try to be productive. It's like, if you fucking,

if you have one chick, you can put this in like boxes and be like hey i'm not thinking about it right now when you're all when you have no chicks and puss you can always be fucking a new chick or whatever it's never over it's like you never reach the end yeah well i can't be like for example i can't have popcorn because i know that once i said it's like i just have to give myself a lot of chair and that's the end of, you know, there's certain things you're like, once I stop, I'm a fiend, buddy. Exactly. Exactly. So yeah, you start, if you get away from a girlfriend, you're just going to be chasing seven of them endlessly. And it might make you a little bit better at standup because you want to get laid that night, but it's, it's not too. Yeah, but you'll be doing getting laid jokes. not too you'll be doing career dude you're getting get doing getting laid jokes dude that's that's why like i literally have

an audience of like mostly men and fucking people like oh a lot of girls people will come up to me and be like you know especially chicks i'm dating i'll be like oh fucking you probably have so much pussy because of stand-up and i'm like are you out of your mind? Zero. Literally, I'm fucking zipped. If I had a fucking getting pussy act, I would. My whole act is fucking trashing women and like, you know, whatever. Even when I'm single, like the periods I'm single, I still fucking talk about being in a relationship

just because I don't want to fucking change my persona every time I, you know, whatever. But, and I don't want- Dude, I don't know if you struggle with this, but I have a lot of gay dudes that want to fuck me. That's like, uh, whenever, if I ever post a photo of me looking nice and I feel great, most of the comments like thirsty ones are all from dudes. It's Australian. It makes me go, I'm wasting my effort here. Yeah.

But you could just suck his dick as a joke. Just some fucking bloke humor. Oh yeah. There's nothing wrong with a platonic blow job and that's cool and that's why my girlfriend's you know so good because she allows that yeah yeah it's not a job fuck hey you know what i want okay i want to talk about because you know it's always fucking uh super cool to me when because you're you've caused like you've done so much uh stunts that have gotten like so much media attention which kind of reminds me of the original uh like remember when your stuff is obviously like and you know some of your big ones actually let me just say this before so if people can know what i'm talking about you had like three or four you know if not way more huge stories where you pranked the

media and it essentially became these like big news stories and like one of them for example was you convinced uh this like news outlet to run a story about how you're dating your step step sister you pretended you were like a famous fashion uh photographer and got like a place to run a story about you and then you pray fucking rebel news to me as it as it pretended that you were a member of antifa so you've had all these huge fucking trolls which to me that shit's fucking just like my favorite favorite shit so the question before we even get into it more and because that's i don't know you know but that's like i mean that's kind of probably why we got along even when we first talked at first because it's like me and

you have been doing the same shit. Like all my TV shows are that and all that stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. Who was your guys when you were growing up that you were like my fucking dudes of the people that did that shit of like causing trouble and stuff? Bro, you might not know them because they're Australian, but I think they're best in the world. The Chasers. Have you heard of them? Probably not.

No, has that guy Remy something? Is he Australian? Remy Gallard. He's French. Ah, that dude. He's French. Yeah. Yeah.

He's very funny. I watched him when I was younger, but the Chasers were my guys and they're still doing this shit. They did great. Like, they did fucking next level crazy shit. Like, the biggest thing they ever did, there was, dude, you'd love it.

Google it. All their clips are on YouTube. Chases War and everything was their main show that they did. That really inspired me. The main thing they did, do you know the Apex Summit? Do you know about that? So I don't really know what it's about,

but it's like all the world leaders, they meet up and they talk about, I don't know, shit it's about, but it's like all the world leaders, they meet up and they talk about, uh, I don't know shit. It's the Illuminati. Maybe they weren't goat heads and fucking kids. I don't know what they're doing, but yeah,

all of the like world leaders meet and it's, and it's like the biggest security event of the year. The DJ duo. That's what. Yeah. Yeah. It's like that. Um,

but it's like the biggest security event of the year, like whenever they do it. And this time they held it in Australia. And so what the chaser did was it was like America, Australia, all of these huge world leaders in one spot. And the chasers, they got in limo, they dressed up in suits, and they put Canadian flags on it. And they drove into this APEC meeting.

Now, Canada was not invited to this meeting at all. They get through all of the security checkpoints, driving all the way through it, like a giant security failure. If this was a terrorist, your president would be dead, actually. So the biggest security fail ever, just some dickheads put Canadian flags on a car

and got led into like the most secure meeting of all time. And then they get in there and they realize that, oh, if we actually go in, this is like an international crime. We'll do jail time. So they go, oh, let's turn around. And then so they start turning the limo around. Security sees nothing wrong with this. oh yeah remember this now i think i do remember this by the way i think it was global news because of how fucking crazy it was and then they go oh well hang on if we just

go in and do a u-turn that's not funny we need to do a skip so then they go all right let him out and one of them comes out of the limo dressed in like as osama bin laden beard turban the white shit there's snipers on the roof fucking everywhere security everywhere and this dude just comes out dressed as the taliban he's lucky he didn't get his brains blown out and it was just like worldwide news fucking everywhere for months of like how did australia fuck security up this bad? And we'll never get APEC ever again because of that. Yeah, dude. Whenever people put it fucking on the line like that, jackass, Sacha Baron Cohen, we're pretty good like that. Have you ever,

have you ever been in one where you've got punched and shit? Uh, no, not where I've been punched. Um, I got into, I've been in some dangerous ones like when i i went to like uh some marxist communist conference i've seen that one yeah yeah so i went to that one and like i was followed for fucking two hours and like threatened and all that went there with a fuck bernie sanders t-shirt a real rebel fucking loose yeah yeah absolutely you know just, I just went in there going, Hey, shave your armpits maybe. But that one was probably my most dangerous one. Oh no, I've been arrested before. I've been arrested before. That was fun.

I don't know. I've done a bunch of stuff. Pedophilia. It was an Epstein thing. It's actually nothing to do with this, but yeah, yeah, it was, I was on the flight logs and you know, I've done a bunch of stuff. Pedophilia. It was an Epstein thing. It's actually nothing to do with this, but. Yeah, yeah. I was on the flight logs and, you know, there was very credible evidence, but I managed to sneak into Jeffrey's cell and sorted it out. So I'm at solving.

So what happened when you got arrested? What was that one for? So that one was like one of my really early ones. So in Australia, there was this really big boy band and they were huge online. I'm wet already. And they organized this meetup where it was very smart. They went to like Federation Square, which is like our time square, I guess. And they got all of their fans to come with signs that said Janoskians on Ellen. Janoskians is their band name.

Okay. And they wanted to film that and then send it into Ellen DeGeneres so that they could go on the show as guests because she was doing shit like that. Add to the dream, yeah. So I see that and I'm like, I can fucking ruin this.

And I go and I organize a meetup of my fans on the same day at the same place and I tell them to bring signs that are so offensive it couldn't go on tv so uh i'm expecting like initially i was like oh there'll be like 150 girls there for the boy band and there'll be like 20 of my people and we'll have signs that say fuck on it i get there there's 300 girls there's 150 people for me and there is 200 riot police separating the two groups because all of these fan girls call the cops on me and the cops are there you know

looking to arrest me so i show up i'm like i can't do any crimes like the capulets and the montagues over there oh yeah so the cops show up and they start like ripping up all of these offensive signs and finding people for like offensive behavior and shit. Like people rocked up with signs with cocks on them. And they're like, I went to cop school for this. It's five years. I know. The girls are all swearing at us.

The boy band is fucking fuming. My girlfriend is, she's a girl. So she goes into the girls and she gets on stage with the boy band is fucking fuming my girlfriend is she's a girl so she goes into the girls and she gets on stage with the boy band holds up this sign that says some shit on it everyone starts booing her and then eventually uh because all these all of my people had signs they wanted me to sign them so i'm like okay i can do that and there's this sign that's like as long as a tall man of just a giant incredibly detailed cock and i'm like dude i this sign that's like, as long as a tall man of just a giant, incredibly detailed cock. And I'm like, dude, I got to sign that.

So I sign it. And then because I was touching the sign, it was in my possession. So I was in possession of offensive stuff. So then the cops, they go and they pull me away and they're like, what's your name? What's your address? And you legally have to tell them. And I remember thinking, well, look, either I could tell them my name and go back in the crowd

or I could get arrested and that would be very funny. Yeah, for the thing, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, no comment. I'm not telling you anything. And they go, right, you're under arrest. And oh, by the way, I'm also, during this time, I'm dressed as like a Dragon Ball Z character. Which is even funnier, yeah.

So I've got my hands behind my back and it was my birthday at the time. So I start singing, happy birthday. And everyone starts singing happy birthday. And then I get taken away. And then the whole thing turns into a fucking riot because I was keeping everything calm. Because, you know, we're fucking with the boy band, not their fans. They're young girls.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But as soon as I'm gone, people start throwing piss. Oh, wow. And then the riot police, you know, they come in and they shut the whole event down and they didn't get on Ellen and I got a $550 fine and banned from the city for three weeks. How many followers do you get, though?

That's the real question. Quite a few. That's what really matters. I also got sunburned, but it was worth it. Oh, fuck dude. That's amazing. What do you think is the most controversial of the ones where you got?

I guess, and what I mean by that is probably the one that got the most media attention. But in a negative way, like where people were mad at you. Like, you know, sometimes, because I've had a few over the years where you, I stepped over the line and people were like, dude, not okay. And you're like, all right, well, whatever. But what was the one where like you, you got maybe not the most media attention, but the most like people being like,

fucking lose a piece of shit, that kind of stuff. Uh, I think it was when I made this, uh i think it was when i made this i have a stand-up bit about it it's on my youtube if you search the dream world theme park accident it'll come up with my joke that got a lot of people innocent shit on a woman in a wheelchair how am i supposed to know she was 95 so we have this theme park called dream world and there was a log ride and um i won't spoil dream world uh basically they go on the ride guys i've got a prank here we're gonna come on families that was that was the plan people like oh they're coming on mothers and dads that's all good but i don't know about their kids that's a bit much just quickly before you say it yeah if you i don't know if you remember the show jamie candy experiment

but they did a show that was a bad prank show and now and then they got a test audience to watch this terrible prank show and one of the one the pranks was someone would be taking a shit and they would come and kick the door down and pie them in the face and then they're showing it's like when you're digging a dump that's the last place you'd expect to see a clown clown kicks the door and then the audience is like i hate it and another one was someone was walking by and then the guy's on the roof and he just pisses on them and they go when you gotta go you gotta go and it's just like the worst fucking prank that's so fucking funny that's great and so the actual prank was on the audience watching yeah yeah yeah

that's so good fuck that's a good that's a funny idea yeah it's a funny like yeah the dream world so these people get on this log ride and it flips over malfunctions and like four people die and and like the the day happened, I go out and I tweet, imagine standing in line for three hours just to die on the worst ride at Dreamworld. Come on, that's some Logan Paul style, right? The day it happened and then I got so much backlash and I made a bunch of follow-up jokes

and then I turned that reaction. So you doubled down? Oh, I doubled down for sure. It was funny as. The first joke wasn't that funny, but the few follow-ups were absolute zingers. I won't ruin them because it's on my channel if you want to watch the bit.

But that got me into a lot of trouble. But also it got me a lot of people going who love the dark humor shit. So easy trade for me, I think. Have you ever had anyone where you fucked with people and you felt bad for it where you're like i was fucking that sucked i have one that i'll tell you about after okay i'll tell you about after i got one that uh that's fucked that uh me and my friends i don't like when we started doing like my so my tv show right along as

challenged i made that with like my boys that were all fucking skateboarders like we did a bunch of hidden camera and we're literally like i guess we'll put a camera here like we hadn't done any of this like i've i'd watched you know the tom alley g i've watched all these shows and just guessed how they probably did things so we yeah you know we were getting some of our guests on craigslist we were getting some of them from here you know we had we were just we were really winging it you know what we were getting some of our guests on Craigslist. We were getting some of them from here. You know, we were just, we were really winging it. You know what I mean? So one of the sketches we did was we brought these three old ladies.

So the bit was that we wanted to make a sketch, a show that was better than Ellen's. That was because we were making fun of Ellen. Yeah. And the whole, it's a complicated thing, but the bit was we were going to show these ladies my show and then show them ellen's and prove that they like mine better so the first one we could tell that the girl liked ellen so we made her leave so that one guy's like you have to leave and then the other lady what we

did was we offered her a bagel and then or something and then when she ate the bagel we filled the room up with smoke and fart bombs and then came in and accused her of farting and then we're like oh jeez so when she's watching ellen we fucking accused her of farting and did all this stuff we go oh my god fucking that bagel went right through you and then she's like so anyways she's a fucking 70 year old lady where the place she's coughing and what the fuck is going on and then so she she lit we finished this thing and we're all like you know this was we're like this is hilarious but then don't forget they leave and we a lot of shows the whole bit as you go yeah sorry you were on a prank show but we didn't do any of that we just like they left it a lot of times they'd go so you just traded like shit and then you fucked them off right and a lot

of times what we would do was the people on the crew, and this is what we came up with, like the production manager, who was like my boy Trevor, he would go, yeah, Ryan Long's a piece of shit. Like this show sucks. Like we don't even want to be working on it. That was what we came up with. Like they'd be like, what the fuck just happened?

And be like, listen, we don't, your guest is as good as mine. Like Ryan's a fucking idiot. And I would go wait in the van and they would be like, yeah, we're sorry. Like, yeah, like this show sucks. But instead of saying like you were on a prank show and then have them being like, well, I don't want you to air that. You know, so that's the best way we come up with. But anyways.

I mean, that works. I think that's better than saying you've been tricked because then they're like, oh, well, as long as everyone else thinks this guy's an idiot, I'm all good. I win. Right. Exactly. So we kind of so we avoided that and then what happened was afterwards the lady fucking she was she started crying

and she's like 70 so we're you made someone's grandma cry and the other two ladies are even worse the other two ladies because the joke was we could tell who liked Ellen and we're like, she's got to go. You know, that was the bit. But they didn't know anything. So they were sitting there and then we came and we like, we only have one viewing station, so you have to leave.

They've been waiting there for five hours. They go to sit to watch this and we go, yeah, you have to go. And they're like, why? We're like, we just only have one laptop, so you have to leave. And they're like, why don't we just, she'll watch it and then I'll watch it. And they're like, yeah, we're not going to do that, so you got to go. And then we just let, like it was, and we didn't tell them any so the way lady started crying called the production manager after and she goes you know i just got diagnosed with cancer

like a fucking month ago and i've been going through a lot and this has brought me so much stress and we're like yeah i'm like i don't know what you want us to do like sorry like i'm like i don't even know what you're asking it's like yeah that really sucks we're like me and my fucking stupid friends are making our stupid tv show we're doing what we're doing and we're sorry you just got cancer and we made you cry like that's like that's so that's so bad because she didn't want anything me out she just wanted to communicate that you really hurt her yeah because she didn't want anything she just wanted to communicate that you really hurt her yeah and she doesn't want anything she just wants you to know that sucks yeah i don't even know what you're even asking she's just like yeah i just want you to know that that was like

the worst experience and you guys should be ashamed of yourself like made me cry and blah blah and like yeah and whichever my first instinct was to tell her be like it was a malfunction like what are we supposed to like it was a smoke malfunction what we didn't see if you stop farting it wouldn't go down with the line i don't i had another one where i fucking this was kind of the funniest ones where so the bit was i wanted to start a fashion line so i broke broke into a super famous Canadian fashion line and I was selling these pair of pants where you had a fake dick in the pants to make your dick look bigger. And they were called Python pants. So I went to this super famous fucking fashion designer and I sat there and I

was like, Hey, we have a meeting with them and blah, blah. And they're like, who? And we're like, Oh, it's for Python pants. He'll know. And then as soon as the girl walked, we just like, let's go. So we ran up and like ran into the guy's office he's like you know the head of fucking the equivalent of like ralph lauren for canada is called harry rosen right huge brand walked into his office and then the guy's like what the fuck is this we're like hey we're selling these pants he's like get the hell out of my office he's like listen i'll just show it to you and then it's like you're throwing away money here you know that's whatever the bit is that i'm like you're going to be retarded not

to take this deal this is the you know the next thing anyway security comes kicks us out it's a big thing they get their lawyers call the fucking network they say they're suing all this stuff and the network like pulled the show until we fuck no and then so i'm like this is like the worst day of my life my fucking show gets pulled off the air and like i'm like the network didn't have the balls and i'm like what do you think i was making and then so anyways who did you thought you hired you idiot and then my dad this is so bizarre but my dad randomly went to high school with the guy and i was telling my dad he's he doesn't obviously like this you know he's not like my favorite like he didn't want to be a part of it. Like, but whatever. And then I was like, Hey, could you get me his number? Cause like, this is a big, and he was like, yeah, I think so.

Cause he knew a guy that knew him. So my dad randomly got his number. So I call this guy and I'm like, Hey, I just want to speak to you. I was from the show that came in and I know you guys have this lawsuit. Like, I'm just hoping we can reach an agreement. And he goes, you piece of shit. I go, click. He starts yelling and screaming at me.

He's the worst rector that you ever stepped foot in. I go, heck, click. So I just click and I go, I guess I'll try to fucking fight it. And then eventually- I mean, that's not the best move you could have made. You broke into the cunt's office and then you get his phone number.

You're stalking him at that point isn't that that's how fucking stupid i am you're literally like it is fucking funny all that kind of shit like when you walk into those situations it's it's all it's also like when you do things where you can't reveal like a lot of my stuff is like i do it and then i i exfiltrate and they have no idea until the video comes out. I always sometimes wonder of like, I wonder how that made them like, how that affected them. Because like the Marxism one video I did got like one and a half million views, I think.

Yeah, that video was awesome. A lot of those are in likeia and they're like a real famous marxist uh organization in uh australia they're always handing out pamphlets yeah they're like a troop i think they work with stalin personally um or at least they're always barking for their fucking marxist troop i know and uh yeah they're always handing out pamphlets and shit and i always think like man they must get recognized a lot because they had some very distinct haircuts right yeah that shit fucking it's like uh it is a fucking weird thing when you're like going down with the lie till the end because a lot of people say i don't know if you're like this but they go

a lot of people be like man you're so good at keeping a straight face. And I'm like, I'm actually not. Like I've had lots of times where I've like broken in the thing and they're like, why are you laughing? And I'm like, what? You're laughing. Because we're having such a good time together. We're having such a good time talking about this very serious topic. What do you mean? You're laughing.

Yeah, fuck. fucking this very serious topic what do you mean you're laughing yeah fuck yeah i wasn't i i was i i'm very good at keeping a straight face for a shorter period of time but when whenever i have to do those one-on-ones they they are difficult yeah a little bit dude it's fucking especially when you gotta actually someone was telling recently, he wanted me to kind of get involved in this thing. And he, I don't know, I can't, I guess I shouldn't say that much too much about his project, but basically it was kind of like a half thing, half prank. And he wanted me to be like the main guy in it. They would, it was like a movie that he was trying to build or whatever. And then I kind of, and it was like, it was going to be one of those things where they're where they're they're pranking people or whatever right but some of the people that were gonna be pranked it was gonna be like a three four day long prank and i was like you can't really do that dude like it's one thing to but another thing four days is a hotel with the person like the cameras are off and like find out about their family and like you know what i mean like this yeah to spend like a night with someone go to dinner with him and the crew,

and everyone there is like, it just feels disgusting. At what point does that become an FBI agent deal? Right. You know what I mean? Not even often FBI agents can't do that shit. Yeah, they go undercover in bikey clubs. And I heard about one guy, his mom died. He's been in this bikey gang for six months.

They're all so nice to him. He starts to forget that he's a cop. He's like, you know what? Maybe these guys are my real friends. They were so nice to me when mom died. And then his boss is stuck going, pull him out, pull him out. You're too deep in the game. Yeah.

That shit wouldn't happen. No, I know. So there's just no way that i would fucking i would be able to like do that for two or three days and also it's like yeah like how good of an actor do you think i am i'm like fucking pretty funny but i'm not like this fucking daniel day lewis where i'm putting on this four day long performance of like pretending to be someone i'm not like a psycho method acting and shit it's crazy i i found a lot of when i when i did my series in america like fucking with people i found i love that

oh thank you i found i didn't have to be a good actor uh or a good liar they were just like oh well he's australian so he must be telling the truth dude the accent does a lot it helps a lot it masks so much dude i agree i you know what's funny because i've i've not done exactly that but it's i think everyone who does this stuff which isn't that many people you have if you're from a different country like you know it crosses your mind to be like hey i'll do my my country in america you know what i mean like i'm not from here and i've been kind of i've pitched some version of me being like an immigrant here like and playing like a really dumb Canadian there actually used to be a really funny show called talking to Americans it was this Canadian Rick Mercer I

like kind of a you know a guy I talked to a bit and he uh he had this he would go to Americans and being like hey what do you think about the fact that Canada's on the 23 hour clock like should we change it to the American they'd be like if canada's on 23 you got to get to 24 hour like that's yeah yeah and you know he would do all these things like that but so i watched yours and it was fucking so funny and the way that you you said uh when you say you go you're like which one of these is trans and then it was yeah was it true question which Which one of these was our, I had three faces up. I go, which one of these three people was our first trans politician?

And two of them are real politicians, a male and a female. And then one of them was like a real famous Australian comedian. That was, yeah, because we were talking about it. That was what it was. Yeah, and then they go, people start guessing. They start guessing the woman and i go

oh that's good it was actually a trick question uh tony abbott the male transitioned into julia gillard and then became our prime minister and they were like oh that's so crazy i was like yeah and uh they're both real politicians but they're separate people yeah so that that one was probably one of my my favorite jokes of like that was when i was when i was watching that that was the one i was impressed was that was kind of like one of the you never you know when you watch them when you're like oh this guy's good i kind of had one that was like oh yeah yeah yeah it's like when you know they're on the fucking the next level of the thing you know what i mean well that that whole classroom stunt the premise of it was I got a bunch of

Americans in a classroom to teach them and they came in thinking they were going to be on a travel show that that I would teach Americans about Australia and so that was just everyday Americans and that like on screen it was like five minutes but in room, it was two hours of me giving like a lesson on Australian culture and geography. And like, I kind of made it work by making, I just did like 70% true. And then every three facts, I would slip in a fake one. And then you just cut all the true shit out. That's one of my techniques. Yeah. That's maybe getting a little inside, but one of my techniques I used to be really into doing was i would do a 10 minute interview and then i would do like in 10 like an 8 to 10 minute interview then do my

two minutes that i really wanted and then do five more minutes and then it's like it felt like this 50 more minute and that that one thing that felt weird to them in the middle they're like no that was the thing that was only if it was like someone really serious sometimes you can fuck with people more and but certain times you're like i don't know know if I'm going to be able to get this guy. I'm going to have to do a lot of lube before. This guy's going to need a lot of lube before. Dude, it's foreplay, isn't it? It really is.

Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. When you did the, uh, the stepsister one that to me, that seemed like, uh, the one that almost seems like a lot, one of the most media attention. Cause you know what it is with that? And again, to me that seemed like uh the one that almost seems like a lot one of the most media attention because you know what it is with that and again to me i'm obsessed with this fucking like you know algae like tom i think tom green was the most like kind of the innovator and allergy

to me was like sasha marion cohen's probably one of the best that ever did it like i'm just yeah for sure i also like jackass like i kind, you know, there's something about messing with real people that even when I'm editing my own stuff, if I have like what I think is the greatest, you know, stand up bit I've ever written or the best sketch I've ever made, it still never makes me laugh more than when I'm just like a bug in someone.

It's one of those things. Oh, yeah. There are some things that the human mind can't compete with in terms of funny. Like your friend falling over. You'll never see anyone write a joke funnier than your mate falling over and really hurting themselves. I was literally going to say that, dude. Because that was when I did my TV show.

And we didn't even include this. We had a bit where there was like a host that would do the interstitials. Like he would say like, welcome back or whatever. And the bit was, it was the corniest bit ever. He goes, welcome back. And then every time he would trip on something and then get mad, the crew, the crew, like leaving their shit around like a skateboard. And we, we had six different, we had a different one every day. And I was editing the show. And every time I've watched, you know, when you've edited something, I've watched it 25 times by the end. And every time I'd be like on autopilot, just like walking through looking for like little things,

looking for subtitles. And every time that, and everything would be numb to me, except for him falling over would always make me like, come online and laugh again. Can't get away from it. Grape lady. You ever seen the fucking viral video,

grape lady? Yeah. I can watch that 10, 000 times and it's never it never gets old watching a fucking lady they go stop and she goes she squishes a little more grapes that she and i go and i'm like i'm a fucking seven-year-old. I'm a literally, I do comedy for a living. I spend, you know, I spend time writing these scripts. I toil over these hours in my fucking social commentary that I think I'm making.

I'm trying to make these profound, and nothing ever will make me laugh more than this fucking lady falling over that I saw 14 years ago. That's so frustrating about comedy is that I think about this a lot like comedy is one of the only art forms to to my knowledge anyway or creative expression art forms a bit wanky but it's one of the only things that that a normal person can accidentally

do better than the best you know what i mean like no one no one accidentally runs 100 meters faster than usain bolt but if my mate farts he's funnier than dave chappelle that's great dude yeah i like it it is the only art form where you can accidentally do it better than the greatest person in the world right the greatest special stand-up special of all time is still way less funny than the fucking a fat guy falling over in the right context and it's not even close yeah i'm in close not even close that's why but there's something so fucking weird no matter how many you know my i've done my last series i was doing in canada was like a sketch comedy series and like i always fucking gravitate back to this because there's something so raw about just fucking bugging real people and the psychology of it that like there's something

just that i was doing that i was i was editing one today before i talked to you and there was this guy and he just kept telling about his friend he has his friend uh jerry ponitano and he kept being like my boy jerry ponitano the thing about jerry ponit guy and he just kept telling about his friend. He has his friend, uh, Jerry Ponitano. And he kept being like, my boy, Jerry Ponitano, the thing about Jerry Ponitano. And he just kept saying the name over and over again. And I was like, for some reason, it just always making me chuckle. And there's like little things where you're just like, I don't know. I just, my mind thinks it's funny. And I caught onto that and I edited and hopefully other people do, but there's these little things where you're like, I'll never fucking beat it. But anyways, okay, let's move on. I'll talk about one more thing and i'll let you go because it's been forever but the one thing i wanted to ask you is like because i've heard you talk about this a bit but as far as like yeah the industry

and shit goes because you fucking came up on the youtube like in a huge way and oh by the way was it i heard this somewhere it might have been you saying and i might have read it but like pewdiepie shouted you out, right? Is that kind of like, that wasn't in the beginning, but that was kind of in the middle. Like what happened? No, that was like last year. So that was pretty recent.

And was that like a big fucking. Yeah, that was huge. Like he shared my biggest ever video, which is me going to an anti-vaccine rally and just asking people if they're a doctor, like just trying to're a doctor like yeah just trying to find a doctor and that one went that one has like fucking 30 million views across everywhere it's posted like fucking insane and so PewDiePie um he mentioned that video and shouted me out and

then and then I did a video about that like selling out and going I've made it and and burning all my bridges and saying fuck you to mom and dad and all that kind of out and going i've made it and and burning all my bridges and saying fuck you to mom and dad and all that kind of shit and then he saw saw that video and then he he shouted that one out as well and i was like holy shit that's so cool um and uh i mean that was like last year yeah his fucking it's it's cool it's he's the he's the biggest and the best to ever do it so it's very cool for him to give a fuck about it yeah i was talking about that yeah it's like he probably does more uh views in a stream than uh whatever than like all the late night shows fucking combined oh yeah absolutely so out of control

but do you have have you because you so anyways my point is because you've had this huge like success online have you found that because you know how the fucking industry like kind of hates when someone comes out of nowhere have you had to uh have you had you know in australia at least do you get recognized as like um when there's real things you know like awards and all that stuff or do they kind of fucking try to ignore you and absolutely not no no no way so um that's when i first started yeah yeah in in melbourne it was it was real bad for me because i was in terms of stand-up comedians doing the online thing i was like the first in melbourne doing it properly and the first like getting an audience and yeah it's actually fucking Bob and I've I had like so much backlash and people trying to push me out like I struggled

to get booked at rooms this is when I'm first starting out and like I would do shit like because in Australia how it works or how it used to work rather I don't know if it's similar in Canada or New York but how it used to work before the internet was there was like a real pathway to success you do this then you do that and then you do that and you get chosen people you wait in line the system well yeah so so all of these people had invested 10 years of their career into the system and they were almost at the end right when it started to fucking fail and then I kind of came out of nowhere and I start, you know, selling out my shows and I get an audience and, and you know, I wasn't amazing, but I definitely was better than a lot of other people.

Yeah. I was fine. There was nothing. Yeah. Like people, there was nothing to hate. Maybe you weren't like the fucking best guy in the country, but if someone came to your show, they were like, yeah, that was fun. Like I got my money's worth. Like no one was like the fucking best guy in the country but if someone came to your show they were like yeah that was fun like i got my money's worth like no one was like even fucking pissed off yeah exactly and and so all these people they they look at you and they go hey bro you pushed in i've been here for 10 years and i'm looking at them going there's no cue yeah yeah there's no pushing in like i did something different you can do what i'm doing i'll show you how to do it like i was always very come on this. We can do it. And then they're always like,

oh, it's different and new and it breaks the rules. Get out. So why do you think it's working? You fucking idiot. Exactly. So I got, and still kind of do get a lot of pushback from the industry, but I'm starting to kind of see change. it's like there's a few more people doing what i'm doing in the country and and all of the new generation like the first year second year comedians 18 year old guys they all kind of want to do what i'm doing which is really fucking cool like fuck dude they want to do the online thing so it's cool man i i think it's it's it it was really hard when i started but it's kind of very, very slowly turning around. And I can't, my goal is America anyway. So I know, dude,

people don't know how hard it is to move here. I'll write you a letter for the green card. I got you. That'd be so sick. How have you found, that's what I wanted to ask you. How have you found like, like starting again? Does it feel like you're starting again in a new country no it's not it was the op it was like if anything it was the opposite like you know because the problem with you know the problem with a small country like can is a little bit like australia but also it's too small that it's too near america to have its own culture if that makes sense you know australia has more of its own culture because you speak different and you're farther away whereas canada like we don't really

there's there's no different we pretend we have our own culture but why it's the same you say about different but that's kind of it's like nothing right so if anything it was it was the opposite it's like it was it felt like you were running with ankle weights your whole life and you come here and in four or five months i mean mean the crazy, so in four or five months, it's like, I came, I got passed at every club. Like all the people that I respect, you know, all of the shows that I grew up listening to and the people that I respected all kind of were like super, uh, positive to me out of the get go. There was a few people, there was a few people that were kind of like, who the fuck, you know, who the fuck's this guy, especially cause of the way I look and I'm a little bit you know cocky or whatever people kind of like who the fuck's this

guy you know what i mean yeah and it maybe took them someone else to be like no like maybe someone people needed a voucher too before they but within like five months i was in it all the places i want to doing all the things i want to like i had a whole group of friends and so i honestly it was such a positive experience and then then new york shut down like just now yeah I was here before now that's so that's so cool so how how often were you you'll kill it you'll fucking you'll kill it in New York if you come I don't know if you said you were going to come to New York or LA but especially that's my goal I when I shot my pilot I kind of used it as a test to be like because I knew I wanted America but I was like oh do I go LA wanted America, but I was like,

oh, do I go LA or New York? Cause LA has the YouTuber thing and the TV thing, but New York is so cool. And then I went to both, I spent two weeks in both. And I was like, LA is a fucking hole. And how would you even make it there when you're competing with like Joe Rogan and Kevin Hart? Yeah. And you also don't need to make it. So I think that for someone like you, and I think this is probably what I felt too, but because you already have your money situation and you know, that's the same thing as me. Like I worked and I fucking put myself in a position where I didn't need to worry about that shit. So I could, which to be honest, it was, it didn't end up that way. Like the money is fine now, but, uh, for you, like it probably helps to come be contextualized

as part of like the New York stand-up club system for a few years and then go to LA the same way. Well, that's what someone, that's what I, because Andrew Schultz was real good to me. He took me around, he took me to clubs and he got me like spots and stuff and he introduced me to a bunch of people. And I met this one like behind the scenes business,

HBO lady who was real nice. And she, and I talked to her about that. And she was like, from an industry a from like a talent picker perspective if I see you in LA doing stand-up and I'm a stand-up person I don't know that you want to commit to stand-up maybe you are doing stand-up to get into a movie or to get into TV or you're doing it to get chops for auditions but if I see you in New York I know for sure that you want to do stand-up because there's kind of nothing else there and I was like oh that yeah really explains it well like if I want to do stand-up and be really good New York but if I want to yeah do stand-up sometimes and other shit about that

you're in a position where you could probably get a decent amount of spots but there is this element of like what do you want your days to look like you know i i think that was like a ryan holiday yes but when you when you fucking design your life like what do you want your day to look like right so i think you know whatever that'd be up to you to make that decision but i mean you're definitely not sitting in an uber for fucking three hours every day i think so that's why i guess it might be different for you to come somewhere that's cold you know what i mean that's oh i hate heat i fucking hate the heat okay yeah i'm weird in australia i don't like but that's yeah i know so so how how often were you performing after you kind of got integrated when i i mean everyone was kind of uh saying that i was like

you know it kind of was at one of those things where i felt like i was on the fast track a little bit or whatever you know what i mean but yeah the uh it when i first got here everyone was like it's gonna take forever to get into like the club system and then i don't know i got past like five clubs i was doing two spots a night every single night if i wanted it within that's crazy that took me it took me no time i got yeah i was i was passed it like i had more spots that put it this way. After three months, I was not putting a veils in places that I was past that because I, I would like to do two spots a night and I didn't want to,

I didn't want to, because I wanted to be like, I wanted to have two or three spots where I could work and then two or three spots where I could showcase. And I still wanted to be part of the scene and like meet people. And I wanted to spend time doing that. So I didn't want to just be doing some club like outside of the city yet because it's like I just I wanted to take a little bit of time of like you know I've been doing stand-up in a hole for fucking 10 years let's like show people my four hours of comedy

as opposed to like no I need to be that next minute like Like I, so I tried to. Yeah, no, that's, that's so cool. Cause like, I mean, for perspective, we have one club in Melbourne and like doing two, three spots a month is pretty much the limit for any comedian. So like, yeah, I was doing three spots a night, three, four spots a night for like five, six nights a week for like, that's insane. While. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's like, I mean, I have like four hours i mean you've released a ton of comedy too but in new york yeah you you would easily be able to within

a few months be able to do two three spots a night and especially depending on your work ethic like a lot of people don't want to yeah man that's that's the dream bro like that's so that's so fucking cool like just the the the the that would make you so good at doing standup. Like in Australia, I think there's a real skill ceiling. You're so on the, that's what I was saying before. It's like the pulse where it's like, I really felt right before I moved here anyway, I was like, man, on stage, it's like,

I'm really kind of felt on the pulse of people's minds in a certain way. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm sure you do every night where it's like you know exactly how far to push it and you know yeah you know what comedy to make and you're so confident that so i think that that's the part that you need you need to at least put in that that time really being in front of audiences and make that stuff but yeah for sure do both but i saw that uh your boy uh frenchie's fucking tiktok just got deleted

we're fucked bro that's that's terrifying we are fucked because your shit's worse than his yeah stuff that he's been posting do you know what i mean like so some of some of mine that's that's the biggest fear huh of just like one social media executive with the front fridge going i don't like him bye yeah dude he doesn't post that aggressive stuff he's funny by the way i like him that's your boy right yeah yeah yeah i'll introduce you if you like he's real nice i've seen him a few times and then i kind of like i saw i looked at him again because of you and then i was like oh this guy fucking kicks ass yeah yeah he's good but that's that's terrifying 250 000 followers and just deleted in one night

but so have you okay so that's the last thing i kind of want to ask too with the um with like the youtube and fucking you know how tech can just essentially fucking de-platform you know i think tim was talking about this where it's like we used to have gatekeepers now algorithms sort of run your life is it uh are you fucking are you how much has that affected you of like having to worry about what you're doing because they're gonna fucking take you off and just make you disappear yeah man a little bit on fucking youtube is pretty wild yeah like it's it's definitely something i consider in terms of what I make videos about and how I title things and what I say in videos.

With me, I kind of, I'm so thankful that stand-up's my number one because if I wanted to do the comedy that I really loved, I don't think I could really do it on YouTube, you know? Like if I have a particularly fucked joke, I'm like, oh, thank God I can say that on stage you know because i yeah there's some stuff that i'll be like oh i wouldn't say that in a video like that yeah so that's kind of kind of what it is it is it is annoying because people want that shit and it is also really weird

how like i'll say whatever the fuck i want in a podcast i won't even think twice but youtube i will i think but you don't put your podcast on youtube because i do put this on youtube the fuck I want in a podcast. I won't even think twice, but YouTube, I will. I think it's because you don't put your podcast on YouTube. Cause I do put this on YouTube. I do. I do as well. I've got a channel for it. Okay. But you just don't care if it's in podcast form, you'll, you'll say whatever you want. Yeah. I think, but if it's in a video, nah. Yeah. So I think that with, with podcasting, you can get away with so much more because your podcast is on, it's not on one platform, you know? It's on Spotify, it's on iTunes, it's on YouTube.

And then the host of the podcast could be one of 500 different hosts, you know, that you pay. Whereas YouTube, it's on one platform, YouTube, and it's backed by YouTube. So if you say a fucked thing uh on youtube everyone goes hey youtube why are you promoting this person why are they on your platform and only youtube gets in trouble and you if you say it on a podcast if no one goes hey spotify why is this there hey you know no but i'm just why is that there you know i put it on my main channel like you know, podcast hosts, why is that there? I put it on my main channel.

Like, you know, they can potentially make my channel disappear, I guess, right? Yeah, that's true. But I think the outrage has less effect on a podcast because they don't know who to yell at. Whereas if it's just your YouTube, if it's a video and it's only on YouTube, they go, oh, well, let's yell at YouTube

because they have the power to delete you. No one knows who has the power to delete a podcast, I suppose. Because even if they do take it off YouTube, it's like, okay, well, it's on Spotify and Apple Music and all this kind of bullshit as well. So you think the answer is, and I mean, there's the Alex Jones thing where they just make him disappear from everything, which is a little bit scary. That's terrifying. That's very scary. But I- A fucking teen person, yeah.

Yeah, that's weird. But he was a very extreme case but you know when they do that to the most extreme case it just makes the most extreme case closer you know like the the next alex jones is a lot closer to me than alex jones was you know yeah yeah it's one step closer it's a it's a very small step but it's fucking coming so that's that's scary but i think the answer is to diversify and make sure you're big on as many platforms as possible because because you know you have to do some real crazy shit like what alex jones did so then to really get rid of you they have to work together which is very unlikely yeah well

maybe not but you know it's a way to insulate yourself a little bit, but I don't know, all these fucking companies are evil and they're going to turn it off at any point. So you just got to get as big as possible while you can, you know, that's kind of how I look at it. I've been watching like what you, because you know, I've had the fucking show more of a traditional career before this, other than the band stuff. And like, I literally moved here and I was gonna, I had this website that I own part of and do the video the hard times and i was gonna do all sorts of that stuff oh you're involved with that bro i love that i've been i've talked to matt a few times oh yeah dude yeah yeah so i own a part of that and i did the i did like oh that's so cool i love that shit yeah matt's

the man hey he's a fucking bad badass yeah he's cool yeah yeah he's he's fucking doing cool shit man i love that kid but uh kid he's like my age no i'm not my age but i'm just fucking so condescending so awesome when a kid but but i moved here andrew i didn't realize that kid was like slang in america and not really that disrespectful andrew should call me that in real life and i got so offended yeah like all right yeah and then and then i heard him say it to like six other people and i was like oh it's a thing yeah i call myself a kid like i'd like the rapper style we're like oh the kid's back like it just yeah yeah i didn't in australia if you call someone a kid and say oh you want to fucking fight do you mate whenever but when i when

i first moved to america i was like okay i took i was gonna do a series for funny or die and then i was gonna do yeah um coming off my cbc series i was gonna do that and then i was like okay i took i was gonna do a series for funny or die and then i was gonna do yeah um coming off my cbc series i was gonna do that and then i was like talking to above average about doing a series and i was gonna do some directing for some different places and then and then when i came here and i was like dude every fucking guy that's like small you know done less stuff than me he's making like 150 200 grand on their podcast and this and that i was like i'm fuck that shit i'm fucking i'm not doing anything with you but in my small little thing of canada i was like it'd be a cool thing

to do like a funnier dice then when i got here they're like people i talked to they're like oh no that's a fucking scum thing like that's low and you're like oh yeah yeah going to going to other places i was like yeah that's that's what really opened my mind was going to new york and la it like it really opens your mind to how small the bullshit at home in your small town really is like truly is like all this shit i was worrying about like being blocked from industry and and cunts talking shit and all that kind of stuff i get to new york and i was like oh they're never gonna be here and they don't have the ability. So it doesn't matter. And now I come back and, and I don't give a fuck.

I'm just like working hard. And it's like what you said, like I'm just trying to work, work hard enough here so that I can afford to be, to make no money in New York for a year. That's my goal. You won't make no money though. I know that's worst case scenario. So if I can afford to be broke there. Yeah.

Fuck yeah. That's what you need. A couple people. You know that guy Tank Sinatra? The fucking meme dude? Yeah. Me and him did a video together. I went to his studio.

Him and like two other meme guys have like a meme studio. It's like fucking this big like Manhattan fucking studio. It's just like all you guys cranking out memes pretty funny that's nuts right places like six grand a month just for their fucking memes man six grand a month just to steal jokes from comics on twitter that's expensive huh that's true but he doesn't steal so i actually you know he doesn't no that's why comics like him i think that the other people that are in there there's some people them bad ones but he that's why people like him because he makes he makes all his jokes himself it's like

okay well then i take it back good on you tank you're one of the good ones because it is possible to do that shit with your own comedic ability and people can say what they want about the format and be like oh it's whatever there's a million different fucking things if you don't like you don't like it but he's not he at least he's fucking doing his own thing you know what i mean he's not still okay that's good i apologize for the disrespect yeah you'd like this guy he's cool but um okay you know actually one last thing was that fucking you know what chris lilly's australian right what oh chris lilly i thought you said chris d'alia yeah yeah i know chris lilly's Australian. Yeah. He's Australian, right? Yes.

Yeah. I was just talking about this yesterday. Cause people always, people always say they go, they always say blackface and they go fucking Tropic Thunder. You know, that Robert Downey Jr. Got away with blackface. And you're like, first of all, he didn't really cause he was playing a character doing blackface. So it's very different.

I think that's fine. Cause it's fun, but it's also different. It's also just not the same thing. He wasn't doing blackface. If you play a guy playing a racist actor in your movie you didn't play racist like it's not the same thing so yeah you weren't yeah he was acting if you that's that's the perfect point if you if you play a character who is a racist that doesn't mean that oh he was racist in the movie it's like no no he played a character he wasn't even playing a character that was racist he was playing a guy that was playing a character that was racist in the movie it's like no no he played a character he wasn't even playing a character that was racist he was playing a guy that was playing a character that was racist

yes yeah his character in the movie was doing like it was so but anyway so i always think people bring that as the example where i'm like hello chris lilly fucking did a whole series in black face yeah that's the one you should be upset about because that i mean yeah i'm, I'm kind of on that side. I think he's very funny, but if you're going to be upset at blackface, you've got to go at that one, not the fucking character. Cause he was just like, Oh, I'm going to be a black character for that. I must have a black face, man. So that's the one you should be mad at. And then when he was rapping in the thing and he's like fucking poor,

and then they cut to the dad and the dad goes, we're rich. Yeah. So good. You know, he has like, it's still all on Spotify. He has like raps as that character full on dropping N bombs in the songs. Absolutely. He gets it. He gets away with it though. It's like people are so fucking selective. It is just fucking wild when people are like, would they decide that they're fucking wild when people are like, would they decide that they're fucking mad about, you know,

I've thought a lot about him while he's just not gotten in trouble at all. Like there's been a few people have tried to start it, but it just doesn't take. There's many times where people have started the Chris Lilley outrage in Australia. It's happened a few times. It gets a little spark here and there. It just doesn't take, it's like every time they try and burn him down, he's just standing there. He's like wet wood.

He's like, I'm not going to light, bro. I'm invincible. You've got to wait. I think it's because he has made such a good character that makes fun of women that women loved. I think that if women love you, you're invincible. You think that's what it is? I think so.

He was too beloved with Jemay. He really was. Like no fucking stained woman looks at Harvey Weinstein and goes, oh, he looks like a nice guy, you know? A woman looks at Harvey and goes, oh, he did that shit. So he's out. But if Harvey Weinstein, you know, dressed up in a dress and made a lovable relatable character about high

school women, he'd be fine. He'd be out there raping today. You know, he'd be at it. He'd be getting that dick wet. Dude, fucking Chris. Chris Lilley looked so, when he was playing those, that girl character was so fucking funny. Cause he looked like he was fucking 55 still.

Yeah. He ain't that young, you know, know he's like he looked old when he was doing the character when he first invented it he was like 30 something but now he's fucking he looks way older and he was pretty hard on the native stuff like that you're like aboriginals you're that was one thing that's similar with canada where i moved here like they don't really that's not a thing here the way it is in Australia and Canada with the aboriginals and we have their first nations people. It's like, it's a hot topic. Like every, every,

you never hear Trump talk about that for example, whereas in, in Canada, like it's a big hot topic. Like every prime minister has got to address it like nonstop, but that's it. That's a big one where you're from. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's huge. I'd say that's yeah. A similar situation. Like you, it's like super sensitive and he probably and he you make comedy about aboriginals at your own risk right so that that is a fucking is that uh is that what you say would be the most sensitive topic where you're from

yeah i yeah i would say that yeah first nations people is crazy sensitive and you got it i think because we i reckon we undeniably fucked them like we nailed that shit in terms of like completely decimating a culture and a people right we we got to be like top 10 champs at doing that in terms of what we did to the aboriginals we fucking completely nailed it you think of you know americans did that well to their african slaves bro come check come play with the big leagues in australia we we are big champs you know so you know i went to new york and i was i was like shocked at how many like african americans there were like i'd never seen that many black people in my life uh but you go to australia you're the only aboriginal people you see are homeless.

Like, that's it. Right, yeah. In Canada, you know what they oppress in Canada? Yeah. The white man. Now, listen. So, no, I'm just joking. Yes, absolutely.

So, I think that's very sensitive in Australia. It's similar where I'm from, yeah. It's a mess. It's one of those issues where there's not really a right answer. Like, it's just in so deep and so many people have made so much fucking, it's at least like in, when you look at like the black issue in America and those like race relationships, which is like a very like American problem.

Yeah. They, they have, they have, those issues are represented by black organizations for the most part whereas in the native issue it's like they really have just thousands and thousands of people that have started organizations straight up dedicated to getting free money and giving none of it to them like you know the way the charities operate so it's you know and so if you're a liberal it's always like they need more money you know and they're not getting it and then you know the conservative is like we i mean we've been giving them giving every fucking 18 year old

20 grand a year for free starting with their 18 you know kind of been turning them into drug addicts like so there's this like yeah there's just no right answer it's like the best thing a politician could do is like hope it doesn't bubble up too much when he's in power it really it really is that like and it's so funny with like the the money issue like it's it's it's funny i'm sure you have similar thoughts when you see like the health care debate in america because canada has real good free health care yeah socialize yeah no this is one that i do kind of get into it with people because you know it's i'm not like on either side i'm not you know whatever i'm fucking see myself as a comedian more than a political ideology but you will see on both sides people saying lies right and with the health care thing being from canada i've i've just seen people

i've always kind of said that there is a level of if your family's taken care of that makes for like a better society whatever you think on who's running efficient or not efficient or how you want to do it but if there is a thing that you kind of feel like if you're poor and you feel like if my son you know gets sick we're fucked i'm gonna go bankrupt i think that kind of angst makes a society makes people angrier makes people more on edge it makes them want to ride it just makes for an unrest you're in survival mode because it's like fuck any other problem if i've got a sick child that's the only thing that matters who cares about racism this that the fire next door if my kid's gonna die that's the only thing you care about so i i think yeah the bubbling of that one issue is not like a left or right thing as much as i think it's

of that one issue is not like a left or right thing as much as i think it's in my opinion it's something that can help make a society more fucking you know less activist like right now america is fucking everyone's an activist and you know to me that might be one of the reasons to like contributing to that thing you know yeah it's it's interesting how and also like all that activist shit completely died when corona was real because all of these like Twitter freedom fighters were presented with the like, all right, you wanted a real problem. Here you fucking go. And they were like, Oh shit, I'm not equipped to handle this. I can't defeat this one with a fucking tweet. Can I? I do think it's funny though. Like the, the, the healthcare thing.

I always, I always, because they say it's so bad and I'm like, it was just to finish that sentence. They always go in healthcare and Canada, It's the worst thing in the world. Like, what are we going to be Canada? They use it as an example. And I'm like, it's, it's fine. Like you might not, it's fine. Like that's all I'm saying. I'm not saying it's the best system in the world. I'm not saying it's the best, worst system in the world, but people use it as an example of like the way that they say like socialism

and like, what are we going to be fucking Venezuela? They say, what is our healthcare going to be like can't have heard people say that and i'm like okay yeah it's similar in australia like right like if you go to the public system you're gonna wait in line for ages or if you have a bit more money you can get a private doctor and then it's fine yeah well we don't have we should have the two i always piss people off by going like oh um in fucking it's like taxing jeff Bezos isn't going to get you free education and healthcare. Like even if he paid his tax, like that shit's going straight

into this rocketing civilians in the Middle East budget. We all know that. It's not going towards your fucking hospital bills. I think the answer is maybe instead of taxing and eating the rich, maybe we should have a look at maybe let's shell one less Middle Eastern wedding and you can pay for like a few students to go to school. You know what I mean? It's like, instead of, it's not,

I don't think it's really a tax issue. I think it's like, what the fuck are we spending all of our money on? Like should 54% of the budget go towards rockets? I don't know about that, but I'm just a fucking, I'm an idiot. I'm a comedian from a different country. So yeah. Save your comments. I already know I'm wrong.

Yeah. It's fun. But like they, they literally say they go, you know, with the taxing thing, there's like, it's just, you know, and I fucking know a little about economics or whatever, but just I went to school for that and shit. And I'm a fucking super genius now, but they literally go, there was like, it's like a one-on-one law that every fucking time you, if you, if you're at 50, your tax rates at 50% and you raise it to 51%, you actually get less tax revenue.

Cause most people, and it's just like the most consistent law in the history. And so you can even think of why it's like, imagine you're a doctor and you run a practice and you're like, all right, I'll pay my 50%. And then they go, now we're taxing you at 51% and you run a practice. You're like, all right, well now I'm going to make my son and my wife like an employee. And I'm going to pay them money. And now I'm going to buy another building. And I'm going to do this.

It's like, as soon as you know that you can't get 50% of your money, you make changes in your brain. Whereas like if you're at 50%, you're willing to accept it. And that's just like a known principle. And it's like people don't understand it. That's how it works it's like if if i i would rather buy a fucking lamborghini and try and bill it off as a work expense then give a million dollars to the government thousand dude there's so much things i've done with that it's like dude if they if they raise my taxes i'll be like okay then i just won't take the money out you fucking moron like if there has to be a taxable event for you to fucking get your taxes you fucking retard yeah it is it is it's

interesting the whole tax thing but you guys have a trump like do you have a guy that's like trump like you know trumps are like popping up everywhere we have we have basically where i'm from we have yeah in here they have trump's like the president and then they have all the like the liberal states have like a super liberal guy we in canada we have a a mad liberal fucking prime minister justin trudeau and then ontario which is the main like state it's called the province we have like a trump style like populist fucking yelly screamy guy there now we australian culture Nah, Australian culture is weird. Like, I feel like we're almost a little bit insulated

from having a Trump because we would just make fun of them. Like our culture is so much, so like if you act like you're the shit and if you are super confident, Australian culture, the automatic response is just take the piss and turn that person into a joke

no matter what they believe it's it's so i don't know whereas with trump they do it with venom like is that is that sort of the difference with trump it's kind of like yeah look at these fucking orange piece of shit like it's like yeah the laughs are like they're they're they're like venomous laughs they're not real they're like look at me exactly it's like yeah it's like laughing angry laughter whereas we'll just like like we will if a trump came out of australia i feel like we would support him ironically of like yeah bro like it'd be like when you hype up like yeah do a backflip you can do it Is it because it's like a party culture? Is that why? Yeah, it's like a party culture.

And I think because we were a convict nation, we come from prisoners. So that prison attitude of disrespecting whoever's in charge, regardless of what they believe, it's just still in us. So no matter who the fuck's in charge, they're a wanker right you guys have jail fucking politics behavior we do like internalized when our prime minister came on the screen this is uh three prime ministers in a row from from different spectrums when they come on

screen at the football the whole audience boos them no matter because it's funny no matter what they haven't done anything wrong we just see the prime minister and everyone goes he's in charge get out this is funny fuck off it's literally like the kids in class with the fucking teacher yeah dude that's australia that kind of sounds sick i'm in it's great's great. Right. And it's not like, it's not even a political boo. It's like, me and my boys are drunk and this is funny to do. Yes. It's not malicious at all. We don't hate the prime minister. We think it's funny to disrespect him in front of people. Our most beloved prime minister was a man called Bob Hawke. He passed away recently, rest his soul. And the reason we loved him was not really

because of his politics. It's because one time after he was prime minister, when he had retired, he was at the footy one day and someone filmed themselves giving him a beer and he sculled it really fast. He drank a beer real quick and that immortalized him forever. The fucking rules. Yeah.

Like if you chug a beer, you're fucking huge uh they're like they're at the debate they're like and then this is what i think about health care and this is what i think and then they're like uh and uh hope can we get your rebuttal and he goes good good good good good good dude that's you would win you would absolutely win like our our recent prime minister scott morrison he sipped a beer like a pansy and everyone, that was news. That was news for weeks. I'm like, oh, this guy can't even fucking drink and punch his wife. What has he got being in charge?

Fuck yeah. Dude, that really sounds like a gig's ass. It's good. It is good fun. That's funny. Have you never had like a super fucking social justice-y liberal president that's, you know what I mean? Nah, we just have, like, middle, like, our left and right wing people are so not that. It's like, it's like a little bit and a little bit from the center.

It's only because, it's only now that with the trump thing that like everyone's got to have a trump now because you know it's this i don't know which came first but it's just everyone i you know like i said everyone didn't have a fucking opinion on trump wasn't a part of their identity five years ago right now it's like yeah you know it's great i mean it just goes back to trolling like Like, it's just the best way to get ahead. That's why 6ix9ine is so big, you know? Like, 6ix9ine is just the Trump of music. I get so much trouble for that because I always, not trouble,

but like, I always say what's my most controversial opinions, but that's one of them that I think fucking 6ix9ine rules. I think he's great. I think he's funny. His music is okay, but it's like his whole vibe is hilarious. As this is premiering, there's someone in the chat being like, Marcus Xix,

nice song, fuck you. They hate it. People get so mad. But that's the genius of it. It's like, yeah, what it is,

is it's like, I mean, that's like when I wear a leather jacket and I dress like a school shooter, whether or not you think I look good doesn't matter the point is you have a strong reaction yeah yeah positive or negative they both work for me and that's the six nine and the trump thing of like the people who love him fucking love him and the people who hate him fucking hate him and that makes the people who love him fucking love him even more like strong reactions is the future no it is i

know it is i'm actually a little it's almost like you have to fucking get better at like because it is fucking hard to you know pick up your phone and 30 people are like but it's like yeah but it just is what it is there's no way around it it's like if you're gonna do anything fucking real and have a perspective anyone that doesn't align with that you know go hard bro i know it is what it is you gotta fucking but 50 cent was like that too as far as like the rappers go so i and then there's the like the dave grulls of the world that everyone loves and you can be that but i don't want to be that i was fucking causing trouble that's like that's how i got into this fucking game oh exactly you want to fucking run amok make us angry that's that's why i fucking like people like you and there's certain people i see

online and i was just like uh that guy's causing shit it's good i love a shit storm that's like no matter what happens positive or negative i want you to have a strong reaction about what i'm doing like that's that's what's the most fun it's like haha made you mad dude people get so fucking pissed at me you know what got me the most hate recently is all the corona content i get like messages in my inbox from people like quite a bit being like this is not okay what you're like you're murdered because i'm like because basically i'm saying like social distancing could suck a dick and i'm fucking i'm just doing like anything i normally would do i'm interviewing people on the streets i'm making oh right yeah but the thing is those cunts are on the street too you know like you're not who are you saying that i'm telling

you i get like even like like even people in my family like that know me are like hey like i don't i know that you don't want to hear our opinions and like but like we don't think this is okay i'm just like that's so funny i mean they're they're correct don't get me wrong you probably shouldn't be doing it but also you're not you're not like and i shouldn't be getting suspended from every school i went to and kicked out of residence and fucking you know what i mean like yeah i should have made a career out of bothering people but here we are what do you do for work oh whatever you don't like actually yeah all those fucking teachers they kicked me out anyway i kicked out of residence

and suspended me and look at look at me now but yeah i'm in new york city and i'm whatever but you know so either way you know what we'll fucking let's wrap this up but uh yeah man i'll fucking come on yours anytime you want if you want to we can fucking keep this going too which is fucking on um if you were saying that if you wanted me to do yours anytime in the next little bit yeah yeah bro yeah let's do it in in like a couple weeks i'll have you on mine and i'll organize it let's do that that'll be good thanks for having me on dude been a pleasure dude fucking sick hey you're one of those people that like like i you know i'm not your fucking gas you have this all in every but like when uh there i've i've been right about since i moved to new york

there's been a few people that i was kind of like, you know, I don't know how if we'll meet that guy, I'll get along, whatever. But there's been like five or six people that I'm like, I bet you me and that guy will hit it off. And like all of those people, I've been like, it'd be one of those things where the first time we met, we like talk for two hours and it's like, you really can kind of tell if you like someone before these days, you know what I mean? Yeah, i think so it's good man it's good i'm looking forward to doing it in real life if you don't if you don't die from your job you know from my corona content yeah and jokes aside uh i mean what i did when

i wrote all my letters is i wrote them for people but like 100 i can uh i have uh i could write you a good letter for a couple of the categories to help you get here when you're doing your thing. Oh, legend, man. Yeah, I'm going to sort that out very soon. As soon as international travel is happening again. And now's not the time to go to New York, I think. No, but it takes a while. Dude, that process takes a while, so it might be a time to start it.

It takes like a year and a half if you're doing green card. Six months if you're doing green card. Might be a time to start it. That's a good point. I'll have to get on it. What a fucking and a half to get if you're doing green card six months if you're doing yeah might be a fuck all right that that's a good point i'll have to get on it what a fucking good term though legend fucking legend bro isn't it fucking legend i gotta i gotta bring i gotta fucking add that one to the vocab bro if you really want to get australian here's an even better one man fucking sick cunt yeah we got the fucking sick cunt day you know what i try adding new things is so ridiculous what's the one that all those fucking san francisco guys do not tight oh i can't remember hella i because matt sank matt always

said i hate that all those guys yeah i i like it and my friend dino archie he's american he's he's a fucking super funny to me and they always go oh that guy's fucking hella or like that guy's hella crazy whatever it is and i it's because i've done this joke on stage where i talk about how fucking you know girls can girls can like change their image change everything whereas a guy wants to wear a new hat like you gotta start prepping that months in advance your boys are like you're doing hats now like you know yeah yeah i i literally even when i moved to new york i'm like i'm starting fresh with all these people that don't know me i'm like maybe i'll fucking add some new shit into the vocabulary and the first time i was on stage being like oh this guy's hella i was like yeah that didn't feel right i could be adding a new phrase at 34

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