The Boyscast with Ryan Long - NO MASKS ON PLANES AND NIGEL NG (UNCLE ROGER)

Episode Date: April 22, 2022

No masks on planes, Danny going viral, doxing journalists, mask insecurities and Nigel Ng! Nigel Ng is a Malaysian comedian & YouTuber most known for his Uncle Roger character. SUPPORT THE BOYSCAST: ...https://www.patreon.com/theboyscast http://ryanlongcomedy.com MERCH - ryanlongstore.com Ryan @ryanlongcomedy Danny @dannyjokes Nigel @mrnigelng SUPPORT THE SPONSORS AT: Getsunday.com/boyscast - 20% Off Your Custom Plan Athleticgreens.com/boyscast - Free 1 Year Of Vitamin D & 5 Free Fitbod.me/boyscast - 25% Off Your Subscription Or Free Trial LEAVE US A FIVE STAR REVIEW! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And you can tell our friends, and they can have my things when we're dead But we don't end forever, but we don't end forever And the boys cast I just want to start this episode, Ryan, with a big congratulations To hell To you To me Because your life just got so much easier
Starting point is 00:00:23 How? Because you don't have to wear masks on the airplane. Oh, boy. It's going to be a big problem for some people. Not for you. No, I'm living. And we're going to be on planes a lot because going to Tampa Bay and San Diego. A bunch more dates been announced.
Starting point is 00:00:44 And congratulations to Mr. Viral. Mr. Viral. Yeah, I have HIV. I have HIV. Mr. Internet. Yeah, Mr. Internet. Did you call yourself that? I've been looking at yourself and said you're finally become a man.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Yeah. Mr. Millie. You did it. A Millie, a Millie, a Millie, a Millie, a Millie. And hit a freestyle for the people. They love the last. A Millie, a Millie, a Millie, a Millie. I got that Millie, the Billie. Yeah, the people have been loving the free i know my i know my
Starting point is 00:01:08 limitations um yeah people yeah you were very surprised at how much people don't understand satire and they always think things are real yeah i mean it was actually it was really eye-opening yeah but i've been saying that to you and on this podcast i know you've said it before it was more before many times i'm just saying it was you and on this podcast. I know you've said it before. It was more than just many times. I'm just saying it was the percentage, right? Like it's one thing you put out a video, you go 20% of people are like, what's this thing? It was 95% of the comments were like, good, quit.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Of your Twitter videos, what we're talking about. Yeah, of your Twitter videos. You're like, good, quit. You're fired. Fucking libtard loser. Get rid of him. Yeah, you look like you view. You're like, good, quit. You're fired. Fucking libtard loser. Good riddance. Yeah, you look like you have Bell's palsy. You fucking...
Starting point is 00:01:50 I told you, I did one on Amazon saying that we should shut down Amazon to support Neil Young and Against Joe Rogan. Yeah, I remember that. We should only support Amazon and buy all our stuff at Amazon, and I'm not even supporting local theaters. Most downvoted video I've ever done, and all the the reasons was that it's like just so you know
Starting point is 00:02:09 amazon's fucking worse and i still have so this is i put this out over a week ago and i still have the because you know there's still like the residual comments and there's still people arguing about because there's all these fucking old boomers who are just like, their point is they go, look, the line between reality and satire is so blurry right now that they're kind of being like, look, you can't blame me for not knowing the difference. Yeah, I can blame them for yours. It's so hard to tell. They go like, they were like, I really can't tell the difference. And all these people are like, you're a fucking idiot. Like, it's so easy to tell. My favorite one of all time was my friend's girlfriend who thought the onions video where
Starting point is 00:02:49 it said, uh, they're doing instead of stop and frisk, they have a new program where they're doing stop and kiss. And the cops, it goes, Hey, listen, if you're doing nothing wrong, the cops reserve the right to pull you over, give you a little smooch on the lip. And if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing worry about and it was a video right and she was like and she reposted that on facebook back in the day being like this seems like a bit much you know i guess i'm not going to new york you know we had a really poor showing overall especially even like twitter the comments poor showing but on rumble because it got like 30 000 views on rumble yeah and like
Starting point is 00:03:25 i think maybe five people they say everyone knew i thought it was the real why would you put it on rumble like if you were like if you're some uh disgruntled twitter employee because elon must find the company why would you put that on rumble yeah like insane how many people on twitter do you think of rumble account zero or whatever the best i'm on rumble by the insane how many people on twitter do you think i'm rumble account zero or whatever the best i'm on rumble by the way right on comedy yeah check it out it's um but anyways the best fucking reply i had this reply which was like nothing could beat this because i opened with the pronouns or whatever which pissed a lot of people off and then this this is this guy's comment he goes hey woke tard i identify listen to this he goes this is the
Starting point is 00:04:02 this is the best comment i have I don't know 5,000 comments 10,000 comments number one he goes hey Woketard I identify as a threat my preferred pronouns are try
Starting point is 00:04:13 slash me oh and Tard go out and get a real job and contribute something to society there you go amazing I identify as a threat
Starting point is 00:04:22 I was like that you're dead that's funny a lot dead. That's funny. A lot of the comments were like, oh, you're a fat fucking loser. You're gross. And then Danny was like, it's satire. And they go, oh, what is that? Yeah, we know.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Nice face, you piece of shit. And then you go, this isn't a real video. He goes, I know. I mean, the video was funny. I thought the video was funny. I'm not commenting on the video. No, I thought the video was funny. Yeah, I thought the video was funny.
Starting point is 00:04:48 This guy's got five chins, this stupid fucking loser. Right, virgin piece of fucking shit. Buddy, I don't think you realize this is satire. Oh, dude. Huh? Yeah, you're like one of my favorite comics. Not a good showing for the boomer conservatives. It was 19th and 20th.
Starting point is 00:05:04 It's always. It's never anyone under 30 that fucking has those kind of misinterpretations there's no Biden fans who got tricked well they're not watching it but as far as the Elon Musk thing goes we won't talk to him I just thought Giannis Papas fucking
Starting point is 00:05:20 shout out because he had like a point that it was a damn I wish I thought of that and he goes the people who want less police in cities want more police on Papa's fucking shout out. Cause he had like a point that it was a damn. I wish I thought of that. And he goes, the people who want less police in cities want more police on Twitter. Yeah. Oh yeah. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:32 every good point. Once it's said, it seems obvious, but it was just like such a good articulation of that. Yeah. Shout out to the dog. I watched this movie about a tech billionaire guy. And it's just funny the way that Hollywood just portrays them in general. But it was called Windfall, right?
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah. Where was it on? I don't know. One of the services. Amazon or Netflix is probably the main Actually, I bought a bunch of Netflix shares yesterday. Let me just see what they're at right now. Okay. Oh, shit. I bought some options. I'm going to be passing the bucket after the uh definitely
Starting point is 00:06:07 donate to the patreon i have a bit of netflix shares too well i have a tech indexes yeah but yeah like netflix uh yeah hbo max is that's the thing i don't even pay for like netflix is they're starting to they're threatening right now where they're saying hey like we're gonna turn the ship around by making all the freeloaders oh there you, there you go. That's what they said yesterday. They go, we're going to turn this around because there's 100 million people sharing passwords. And I'm just like, man, if you make... First off, I'm not just going to pay for 20 different streaming things. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And HBO Max, Amazon Prime, you get the deliveries plus the thing. But then HBO Max blows Netflix out of the water. Way better. It's the best one. It's not even close. it's not even close it's not even close like dude they're fucking if they think they're gonna threaten people they'll like they're gonna be in for a rude well they'll say i think they really need if they really want people to not you know to stop um canceling that if they want people to not cancel the description they go listen if one more person cancels we won't make another season
Starting point is 00:07:01 to dear white people so i know because oh i know that what you think is oh that's fine i'll just uh i'll bootleg dear white people yeah but how about this we'll stop making it so no dear white people for you period no hannah gadsby no hannah gadsby we're not going to make any more gadsby we're not going to make dear whites people the video the movie uh i don't know if i think it was a documentary but the the woman who's pregnant yeah we're not oh i saw the japanese the guy they're sorry the woman who's pregnant yeah we're not the guy the Japanese the guy they're sorry the man who's pregnant so I'll tell you you know who's having a nice chuckle about all this is Dave Chappelle oh because I'm sure they were like hey Dave we could give you 20 million dollars an episode or a bunch of Netflix stock yeah and no one but up bye bye bye
Starting point is 00:07:41 yeah if you dig the Netflix stock you're getting. So that's what they need to say. If I was in charge of Netflix right now, I'd say, listen, you have one week to stop canceling our subscriptions or you're not going to get any more pregnant man shows. You're not going to get any more Dear White people. And we're not going to make any more Hannah Gatsby. And I didn't even want to do this, but we're not going to give you the show of the girl who did the Trump impression either. Take my money, Netflix netflix yeah so it's
Starting point is 00:08:07 balls in your court at this point i bet if people we're not going to give you samantha b digital content either we're all we're she's not even on the platform but we're actually going to be we're going to be reaching out to samantha b and making her a cash offer to stop producing digital content for her uh channels you think dick masterson's like fuck that settlement just went down by a lot his potential settlement because of the when they went and fought and the protest and they got hit in the head yeah you think there's a i bet employees at netflix would be uh getting a fucking lashing if they were actually at the office right now oh hell yeah they would be well this movie i just want to give a a non-recommendation but it wasn't the worst movie in the world
Starting point is 00:08:47 it was just my only reason I'm bringing it up is because it's just really funny how they make the it was a really there's a guy robbing the place
Starting point is 00:08:54 and then it's a tech billionaire's house right and it's kind of a calamity of errors kind of like a quirky movie right so it's almost a little bit supposed to be funny right
Starting point is 00:09:00 but they make the tech billionaire so bad and then the robber is kind of bad and then everyone dies except for the woman who's like the empowered hero and it's a real like shero's journey you know what i mean because yeah and it turns out you know she she kind of was emerges as the protagonist near the end but the the way that they've made the tech billionaire bad so he he's at every conversation he goes anyone who doesn't have a billion dollars is just looking for a handout.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Oh, really? He's basically the guy from the three comma guy from Silicon Valley. Yeah. It's like a guy that's trying to go viral on TikTok by saying the most inflammatory shit. Anyone that's not a millionaire right now, it's because you're a lazy piece of shit. He's saying that right now. Yeah, he's like the Uber hustle guys. He's a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:09:44 He goes, everything that I i had i worked uphill for and everyone else who doesn't have this that's because they're lazy everyone's lazy but me and then uh guess what his company does uh something evil he invented chops yeah it is the most evil thing you could come up with so he invented an algorithm yeah that uh companies use to fire everyone Nice So basically You sign up for his algorithm And he goes
Starting point is 00:10:10 Fire Tom Fire four people in marketing It's like the job version of the Terminator It's kind of what it is But it's just funny This guy just had no redeeming characteristics You're just the biggest character I imagine he was played by a person characteristics. He was just the biggest character. And it's also the type of guy...
Starting point is 00:10:26 I imagine he was played by a person of color. He was played by the guy from Fargo, kind of the chubby guy. But he basically... The chubby brown guy? He was not played by a chunky brown guy. Yeah, you're incorrect in your assumption there. That's like the one role where they go,
Starting point is 00:10:40 Hey, we only want to see white people and we mean it. Every other role they go, Hey, we're seeing everybody, but want to see white people and we mean it you know every other role they go hey we're seeing everybody but you know no white people this is like white people only now you guys are hey straight white man here's your fucking role here's your role what does he do he's a fucking evil billionaire that invented a program to get everyone fired so yeah he's he's a pretty chunky guy but they they do an amalgamation of all the different bad characteristics because they sort of make him like a young hip tech ceo yeah but like none of his uh personality traits are really like that they give him essentially like an oil tycoon
Starting point is 00:11:18 personality but they have him running a tech company right which is like nobody's really like yeah they right exactly Like he has zero autism, kind of like. 100, not at all. Yeah, not at all. He's like an evil oil billionaire. So they just like amalgamated all the worst characters
Starting point is 00:11:31 they could find in like popular culture. Yeah. And then they put him into a tech. It really is a guy who's like, doesn't know any tech people almost. Yeah, that makes sense. So we found probably one of the, every once in a while, you get a gem from the internet
Starting point is 00:11:46 and there's this girl named Haran Greensmith and she's been tweeting up a storm and I honestly thought this person wasn't even real at first so I did a deep dive I saw her first thing and I go this isn't real and then someone else sent me something and I legitimately did a pretty good deep dive and I found her
Starting point is 00:12:02 website and everything real person 100% you know diversity and inclusion officer at some university the whole thing right And I legitimately did a pretty good deep dive and I found her website and everything. Real person, 100%. Yeah. You know, diversity and inclusion officer at some university, the whole thing, right? Yeah, yeah. So her first thing she went to like reverse viral for, which is I guess viral when people don't like it. Yeah. So my video.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Like a real... I'm aware. That is funny though. Just going viral nonstop and belating you. She goes, I'm blowing. That is funny, though. Just going viral nonstop. People hating you. I'm blowing up. I guess that's sort of like Ben Shapiro. Those people.
Starting point is 00:12:31 It's like if you ever look. I'll tell you who's actually that. Donald Trump Jr. Exclusively goes viral for people being mad about it. And Ted Cruz. Yeah. But I'd say some people like it, but it's one in three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:42 But this girl, she basically posted a thing being like, I should be repaid. And I'm like, this is bullshit. Does anyone have any advice? Because I have to do all this emotional labor because my son wants to go to college and he's asking me for advice. And why is it my job to do emotional labor?
Starting point is 00:13:01 Oh, I hate emotional labor. What's the worst, right? Why is it my job to make decisions with him about what he does with his life sort of thing, right? Yeah. And then it found out that it's a foster child too.
Starting point is 00:13:12 So she essentially fostered these children, you know, and then the one's going to college and he can't decide whether he should go to college or not. And she can't... And she's trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:13:21 how she can return him. She's trying to think about how she can return him. What's the return policy on this kid? So she's going off on a big tangent. And she's trying to figure out how she can return him. She's trying to think about how she can return him. What's the return policy on this kid? So she's going off on a big tangent. And she's very harmless. Like, hey, peeps, just looking for some helpful advice. So my stupid bitch male, White's son, is trying to go to college.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And somehow this is my problem. Has anyone else been in this situation? So her language was kind of flowery, right? So she went kind of nuts on that right and then wasted no time she just wants to give it a little bit of a shout out to the lgbtq plus ia d-a-n-n-y p-o-l-i-s-h the lgbtq d-a-n-n-y community you know how we do i bet she's very disappointed that her, is her child?
Starting point is 00:14:06 Oh, he's probably straight too. I'm sure she wouldn't mind doing that emotional labor if he fucking sucked a dick or two. Well, so this is what she said. She just goes, I just want to give a shout out to all the people I love just to let you know that I have love for you.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And they're very specific. So she has a list and she goes on and on about, there's about 10 to 20 of them that she loves. So the first one, autistic biromantic teachers, bisexual lawyers, pansexual movement leaders, pansexual wheelchair users. He goes, autistic biromantic teachers. So biromantic is that maybe you have like a flirty relationship with like a...
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, yeah. You're not like blowing them, but you and another guy. You're a flirt. what so biromantic is that maybe you have like a flirty relationship with like a um yeah yeah you're just you're not like blowing them but you and another guy you're a flirt you're a you're just a flirt regardless of gender right so you're you're not gonna bone a dude but you might reach for the pen at the same time and your hands touch and you kind of have a moment and he might think like is there something going on right now yeah yeah what what are we doing yeah so that's like you're oh by romantic you know what i mean you're not gonna bone him or anything you're just just to flirt but you're also autistic oh yeah so you're kind of you know you're not making eye contact when you're flirting no eye contact when you're flirting that's what it is yeah yeah you're
Starting point is 00:15:19 you're sort of hitting each other's hands but you're not looking away and you're sort of on a different you're on your own planet right you have a calculator in one hand just doing fucking equations yeah so bisexual lawyers pansexual movement leaders uh black men on the down low she likes that one she likes black men on the down low yeah that's a funny one to like just so you know if you're like some gated black man yeah if you're a gay why would you have so much love for in the closet just because it's tough you know but not closeted white man what's what's the like layman's definition of emotional like what's the man's definition of emotional labor thinking is that what i think uh it would just
Starting point is 00:15:57 be yeah talking to your chick yeah like it's just thinking like i don't it's it's one of those terms catching up with her terms that used but she says it's like emotional like you go hey can I get some advice and you go I'm not here to do your emotional labor no I'm not here for that hey mom
Starting point is 00:16:11 I just don't want to talk to you yeah could I I need your signature on my college application oh you should have thought of that before you were fucking
Starting point is 00:16:20 asking a woman so a woman is necessary for a man to do, for you to go through with your school application. I somehow have to be involved. Big surprise.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's like, well, dad died mysteriously in that accident. And you're also a single woman that just, for some reason, adopted a bunch of kids. Kind of a weird move to begin with, especially since you hate us. But that is true, though. She's probably had him for five years and really went through her, like,
Starting point is 00:16:44 white dude, the worst transformation in the last four years so do you think she did well she probably did she adopt a white guy yeah it's a white guy mistake for her that's a big mistake well yeah i'm sure i'm sure she was trying she probably tried too hard to get like the non white guys well that's what i'm saying if he filled any one of these categories if he adopted a black son he doesn't even have to be outwardly gay. He's just like on the down low a little bit. Him and his friends played Oogie Cookie. And then she'd be more than happy
Starting point is 00:17:09 to fill out the college application for him. Pansexual wheelchair user, so she got love for y'all. Yeah. Asian bi-queen doctors. So I don't know what bi-queen, oh, bi-queer, sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Bi-queer, bi-queer. So bi- What's bi-queer? I think you could add queer onto any of these, right? Yeah, yeah. You could say femme, bisexual, queer queer i think you could add queer on any of these right yeah you could say femme bisexual queer doctors or you could yeah you're bisexual and you're queer gender queer polyamorous people she got love for y'all not her son though uh pansexual carpenters that's my favorite one that was always one of my favorite like ideas for a sketch that i never made but i just love
Starting point is 00:17:45 the idea of like the one the one guy that's like demisexual on the construction site and getting everyone to come out of the closet or just just he's got the the tail like coming out of his fucking you know like the raccoon tail out of his fucking vest just anyone yeah coming to the closet on like some bullshit nonsense to like his construction troop it always makes me laugh especially on this wacky shit it's not even just like it's like yo I'm gay yeah so I thought she's left out a few people so I was thinking that a couple maybe
Starting point is 00:18:13 be gay Walmart employees who are also retarded yeah so that's a good one what was that demisexual moms yeah yeah any of them all the demisexual moms demiamons yeah she how do you think she has love for the disc yeah anyone who runs a mosque but they're also demi yeah anyone that runs a mosque or attends a mosque but you're also um gay blasphemous how about this kinky subs
Starting point is 00:18:36 who work at subway it's not bad so maybe that's one she got she didn't mention that she has love for them though if you're a kinky sub because you're not queer. You think there's going to be a part two to this? Well, no, not kidding. There was a part two, yeah. Oh. So she already, some people said, what about me? And then she did the sequel, which was much awaited.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Everyone was sitting there. Because she said she likes pansexual carpenters. But then there was some pansexual I don't know you know the Zamboni driver yeah yeah Zamboni goes honestly you know what this sounds like is like if Babylon B had like merch and they had their own Mad Libs
Starting point is 00:19:15 yeah yeah yeah like Babylon B like a Mad Libs and it was all like so that's a good one actually too maybe like a demisexual retarded Zamboni driver who smokes who smokes. Who smokes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah, gays who smoke. Smoke crack. Blind lesbians that work at 7-Eleven perhaps. She has love for y'all. Well, it depends what race they are. Asian with two dicks.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's also demisexual that works at the bowling alley. She forgot a couple. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, anyway. i did the most uh embarrassing thing in a while uh the other day at a comedy show so a friend of mine who's like a kind of like a tall uh indian chick uh i was at the as at brooklyn comedy club and i just finished my set
Starting point is 00:20:01 and then i walked to the back of the room and And I guess I walked up to who I thought was this comedian. And I go, oh, what's up? And I put my arm around. Like, I did a pretty aggressive, like. Yeah. Oh, that's what I go. Yeah, and like. After you just got off a set.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah, like, kind of accidentally. Like, not necessarily on purpose. But just probably, like, touched my head, like, pretty close to where her boobs are. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Dog. Yeah, but it wasn't trying to be some flirt. I was just like kind of saying, hi, he's a friend.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Right. Yeah. And it was dark or whatever. And then, uh, and she was dark. She, yeah, she, I was dark and she was dark. And then she looked at me weird. And then I looked at her and then I just walked away and it was just someone from the crowd. Oh, crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And then I watched her. And you just got off set. I just got off stage. So. And then I watched her walk back to her seat just got off stage and then i watched her walk back to her seat and start whispering to the person you won't believe it the last comedian i went to the bathroom and he just fucking grabbed me and started hugging me like i'm on some fucking uh steve martin in his early days stuff where the show never ends
Starting point is 00:21:02 on this wacky guy you try to go to the wash bathroom after my set, I'm still fucking coming up to you and I'm still up to my old tricks. So did you just leave? Yeah, I never saw her again. You have to. Well, I was thinking there's going to be a complaint. This comedian's finished his sentence sexually harassed.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yeah, like she goes full on sexual harassment scandal. It was nuts. Anyway, speaking of comedy, we went to the Andrew Sch full-on sexual harassment scandal. It was nuts. Yeah. Anyway, speaking of comedy, we went to the... Andrew Schultz had... He sold out all these shows at Radio City, which, shout out to him. Yeah. Fucking killing it right now. And then we went to the after party for his show, and there was, like, a magician there.
Starting point is 00:21:36 You know what I was talking about? Magician out of me on Instagram after. Yeah, I was talking to him, because I said, you know what... So... He had a real, real solid trick. He had this one trick that, did he do the X? The X trick was his trick. The X trick was his.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I Googled how to do it out there. Me too. And then you do it and you go, oh, no, no. Oh, you didn't figure it out? Okay. So the trick is. I mean, magicians never tell our secrets, but no. Dude, it's literally like it's a special sharp.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I'll tell you how I thought he did it. I'll tell you how. Well, you tell me how you thought he did it. Okay. I'll tell you how he did it. Okay. So this is what happens. He basically, he has someone's hand. He puts an X you how I thought he did it. I'll tell you how. You tell me how you thought he did it. I'll tell you how he did it. Okay, so this is what happens. He basically, he has someone's hand.
Starting point is 00:22:07 He puts an X on it. Then he does something. Then the X is gone. And then the person beside them opens up their hand and they have the X on their hand. How do they get the X on their hand though? Okay. So my guess was that he put the X on the other person's hand before somehow. So he put the X on the other person's hand like three minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:22:24 No, because it was on. It was like, oh yeah, right, because it's the other person. hand like three minutes ago. Yeah. No, because it was on, it was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right, because it's the other person. So this is my guess. Most of the tricks, like whenever you go to a magic show, 90% of the things is always like,
Starting point is 00:22:34 oh yeah, they did that before. It's kind of when they do the magic, you know, the illusionists, a big part of what they do is they get the people's names and do all this stuff. Tony Robbins is big into that, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:44 He gets people's, people put their problems in before and then he, you know, he picks the right people and they all do this sort of thing, right? Yeah. So they act like they're so off the cuff, but the truth is they knew all this stuff beforehand. So what I thought is maybe you go up to some people before, shake their hands or something like that, put an X on their hand, then they basically forget about it. Then you do the trick, but the one washes.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So he puts the x on the one person's hand that washes off really easy and the other person already had the x on their hand yeah so i mean kind of but it's not it doesn't happen in uh in advance so basically what it is it's a special sharpie you can buy okay it looks like a sharpie brand sharpie but it's like a magic trick see i'm not impressed with getting the x on your hand and then getting it off how does he get the x on the other hand so look so okay so, okay, because I looked into it. So the top of the Sharpie, so he has a Sharpie, the top of it, like the non-pen side or whatever, is sticky. And it has like a false little, not a false compartment, but you stick your hand on top of it.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And then when you bring it up, the top cap part is stuck to your hand. And then there's an X, an inked up X that's now stuck to your thumb. Okay. Okay. So he goes, because what he does, he goes, okay, some, like he did with my girlfriend. So he goes, okay, come here. He takes her hands and he's holding them down. And he goes, okay, close your hands.
Starting point is 00:23:57 And I guess as he's doing that, he dabs your hand and closes your hand, right? Oh, gotcha. And then the pen part has this type of thing. I didn't know he touched her hand. He does. He does that. Every person's hand. Oh, that's way less impressive. He goes, pen part has this i didn't know he touched her hand he does he doesn't every person's oh that's way less impressive he goes close your hand i didn't know he touched her yeah he goes he closes i'm not impressed at all because you're not following it at that point you're not thinking you don't know i would have been on my fucking eyes are on this shit yeah but anyways and then the plebs like you wouldn't be and then the fucking
Starting point is 00:24:19 you didn't even know and then and then the pen part is it just like it's this really like easy ink to come off so then he he writes it down and then he just goes and he like does this and it's so it's gone and then he puts it and then it's on the hand because the thing with the x that i mean obviously it's a magic trick so i'm not being like oh it's not real it's like he didn't really do that like you really know like i had the urge to be like that yeah that wasn't real but you know it's obviously a magic trick and i was like really high at that point but uh no you're at the time oh yeah no you're lying because at the time
Starting point is 00:24:45 you were like whoa dude I think magic's real dude uh but the X was so perfect like you could tell
Starting point is 00:24:54 it had to have been a stamp oh okay so that's a little bit of a yeah yeah well speaking of anyways you could just buy it for like $30
Starting point is 00:25:00 I'll tell you a good uh magic but he was a good magician and he did a cool do you know who Zach Bagans is? No. Okay, so he's the guy who's a big ghost hunter? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:10 So he's like a famous ghost hunter guy. How many ghosts has he caught? They never really found that many ghosts. More than one? More than zero? He found a couple, I think. Well, no. The thing is, so there is the ghost on our show that don't find any,
Starting point is 00:25:25 but a lot of these people, what they do is they have all their sonar radars and stuff like that. So they have all these like contraptions. Yeah, they're like, you can't buy them. They make them on their own. So they don't capture the ghost, but they say, hey, there's a ghost in this building
Starting point is 00:25:40 and they get their sort of radar rigged up and they go, oh, look, he's up there. Wait, are people trying to capture ghosts on these shows they're actually trying to ghost hunters they like it's like in this this bag i have a ghost but they don't try to but yeah but they do say this ghost is up to his old tricks right yeah so anyways i know a friend of a friend that uh was went on uh hung out with him a few times right and banged him and allegedly um he he doesn't drop the ghost hunter persona and then he brought the girl back and he has a painting that like moves and then he was telling the girl like oh shit the spirits like they don't like it when people are here and stuff
Starting point is 00:26:17 like that so she's like okay well obviously it's not a real spirit so you have a picture that's like rigged up to move so you can pretend there's ghosts. He goes, what are you talking about? She goes, let me check this out. He goes, no, don't touch that. It's haunted. Yeah, do not. If you know what's best for you, before you know it, you'll be haunted.
Starting point is 00:26:37 So apparently, this guy, I guess he thinks, and imagine he starts dating someone. He goes, why'd you do that and he goes you know that's the only way anyone's ever loved me one of my ghost hunting abilities he doesn't drop the gimmick and apparently the whole time you're hanging out with this guy it's very ghost oriented like his real life is very yeah he's all the ghosts every ghost this goes that right i mean that's similar with the magicians though they're even i talked to that guy because right he dm'd me oh they live the life and they and then i was like dude that was a like yeah but they live the life of like doing the tricks which is you know uh honorable life to some degree for sure but i was like oh man that was my girlfriend was
Starting point is 00:27:17 trying to figure out how that trick was worked or whatever and he just was like yeah i'm still trying to figure it out too like that's kind of as he goes like i don't know either okay so he lives the life sure that's fine but everyone knows magic is tricks yeah this guy isn't saying like yeah obviously we do some stuff on the show he's dying with the lie so he's in his real life it would be more though so a magician that's been dating his wife for like he has a wife and kids and he's been with this girl for like 25 years. And he's still just like every time, you know, he does his magic show and he comes home and he goes,
Starting point is 00:27:52 babe, I can't talk right now. The magic was running through me. Like, you know, after I do my magic, it takes the energy out of me because of the spirits and stuff like that. Like he was going down with that line.
Starting point is 00:28:00 She had to be like, I know you buy these tricks on the internet, right? You can buy them on a website. So this guy, I saw a thing actually, i don't know if it's related to me searching but david blaine now has something coming out where he's giving away all the secrets it's like you can oh the other magicians might hate that he might get killed before that comes out it's hard to fucking uh track down blaine yeah well i wouldn't if i was him i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:28:21 be fucking happy with that if i was the other magicians. So the girl from Libs of TikTok got doxxed. She did. And basically the... My fucking crocodile tears, Taylor Lorenz. So Taylor Lorenz is this person that writes for all these magazines, right? She's 55 years old. What's the joke that everyone keeps saying she's old? Well, I saw that yesterday, too uh because she went on that i remember when she was crying on mbc
Starting point is 00:28:50 she said like uh like under 35 year old like whatever uh journalist and then everybody's like she was like trying to put her itself in the under 35 category and then everybody's like you're not under oh i got you okay yeah well she's you know there's this she's this girl and she's you know public enemy camp the greatest journalist in the world public enemy counselor that essentially she tries she writes all these pieces she was one of the original like rats that was going into uh what was the app that you people used for 10 seconds and no one does anymore we used to do the audio chat rooms oh clubhouse she was one of the original like clubhouse rats that would go and people people would do you know you said you
Starting point is 00:29:30 people and i thought it was like a jew thing she would do these like j swipe right right right right she would do these apps and then uh she would be there with her notepad and like a fake avatar and then she'd write stories in like the new y Times. You'd be like, just so you know, some guys had fag in like the chat room. So she had a bunch of those. She was doing all sorts of stuff like this. And then her big thing, she's honestly canceled tech guys almost the most. That's a big part of her cancellation spree, right?
Starting point is 00:29:58 But the funny part is she, I guess, because she entered this arena of, you know, essentially declaring war on people. Other people declared war back, obviously. I mean, the real crazy thing was her going on MSNBC and doing that whole thing of crying,
Starting point is 00:30:12 being like, you don't know how hard it is to be a journalist. People are doxing me. Right. But the funny part is so after the framework set, she is this woman that's dedicated her life to essentially doxing people yeah and then she doxed this person for doxing people yes because i guess that is true and to be honest i kind of saying libs of tiktok is doxing people well it's a little bit different than doxing
Starting point is 00:30:40 because those people have put those videos themselves out there i would say this too because especially it's like tiktok is like those people like when you put something on tiktok like the goal is for it to get a million views it's not like putting something on twitter okay so my point is it just depends on the definition of doxing i'm let's say we remove whether it's good or bad yeah if you say that uh i don't know what you would say. If someone- Personal information, I think, is like your phone number, address. Well, what they do a lot is the employers. So it'd be the equivalent of if you did something that you didn't like and everyone goes, he's playing at this club and this club and this club and this and this.
Starting point is 00:31:18 That's your place of employment. I would say that's toxic. Well, that's the big part of Libs at TikTok is like, here's this teacher. She works here, sort of thing, right? So whether or not people agree with it or whatever that's just like what's happening so it's basically like someone that's like getting saying they're like doxing this person for doxing this person and then going on a thing being like everyone's doxing it's like sounds like a whole lot of streamer bullshit right now sounds like they would be very comfortable in the world of streaming. Yeah, and I think once you're in the public,
Starting point is 00:31:49 I don't think you could have a... It's hard to probably have a million followers on social media and keep it... Well, no one ever knows who you are. Especially an account that pisses so many people off. Has anyone ever pulled that off? What? Where you have...
Starting point is 00:32:02 Is there anyone right now that has an account with just millions of followers and no one knows who's behind it maybe some crypto people or something yeah there's crypto people for sure titania mcgrath that was they kept that going for a while for a bit and then some uh someone in the uk outed him um there's crypto people there's a bunch of crypto accounts that are just totally anonymous like okay and i think like does anyone know who zero hedge is like are these uh i bet someone does but no i don't know who's zero uh i don't know if that's ever come but there's yeah there's nothing funnier about the the journalists that have dedicated their life to you know uh harassing people essentially and trying to get
Starting point is 00:32:40 people fired and stuff like that and then it like comes back to them where people are mad and they're flabbergasted like whatever you want to say about the most inflammatory on the people like we're talking about let's say a ted cruz of the world i don't think ted cruz is ever going to come out and be like i am being harassed unless to say yeah this happens to me just as much as you so it's this crazy thing where you go like who's fucking declaring war on the internet on entire groups of people and then surprised that you know yeah for sure that there's some people that aren't that happy about it it always reminds me of being on an airplane and you're kind of uh uh you're like kind of uh someone's kind of kicking your seat and then you kind of put it back
Starting point is 00:33:24 and then they're kicking the seat and you're putting it back or vice versa. And then the one person eventually like looks around, like, what are you doing? You're like, hey, we both know what's going on here. You kicked your seat back and I don't like it. Like, okay, whatever. Maybe we're both being petty right now,
Starting point is 00:33:37 but we both know what's going on right here. Like you want to, you go, all I did was trying to get this person fired and now i'm you know i mean yeah i mean this is classic live by the sword die by the sword of course tale all the time and it's not even it's not even the sword it's people sending you a hate mail essentially well you know you want to dox people you're gonna get doxed i don't know see we're gonna try and do that to you but the crazy part is these people
Starting point is 00:34:06 that go you go yes listen being in the fucking the nitty gritty of like culture war on Twitter all day every day is probably not
Starting point is 00:34:16 the greatest for your health if you're not in the greatest health no and you either have to sort of detach yourself from it or you have or the type of person
Starting point is 00:34:22 that just likes fighting or you kind of play it as a game or whatever weird side gig too for like this orthodox jewish woman it's very weird that it's i think it's kind of funny yeah he's like orthodox jewish who's a realtor yeah yeah you know on the side i just you know just post about libs of tiktok right it's a hobby i guess yeah yeah you could say it's a hobby but yeah to be there and then she goes i'm getting all this hate and it was just like i'm not you know how normal people like you could say someone's getting bullied on the internet people will make this argument to high school kids be
Starting point is 00:34:53 like well just log off and you go that's maybe easy for you to say but it's like dude if you're a 16 year old that like is legitimately you know everyone at your school is making groups about you it would suck right and they're still like the in-person and i know like a lot of comedians make the joke like you just log off but if you there's a big difference between that and you've dedicated your life to fighting people and then you go i can't date with anymore it's like shit you could stop anytime yeah at any point i mean you could like, you know what? I'm not going to write any more articles about how other people should be fired. And tomorrow, people will stop yelling at you.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Yeah. Right? But if only it was that easy, Ryan. They're like, this is the thing. It's this idea of like, I have this like mental problems and I can't deal with the stress of this. And you go, well, what is making you do this? You go, I can't stop. It's the libs of TikTok.
Starting point is 00:35:55 She probably hates the libs of TikTok right now. Oh, yeah. And it just made them more popular or made them stronger. But also it just adds this element. I mean, it is this weird kind of element though, with, with,
Starting point is 00:36:08 uh, where she's Taylor rent specifically as being like, Hey, if you want to do this, like I'm going to invite like danger, this element of danger into your life, like into your real life. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Cause you know, that woman is probably like, yeah, I don't know. I don't like, you know what it is with a bike lock or something. I think the internet's figured out to some degree how to make trying to cancel people not free.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah. It used to be only upside. You know what I mean? There was a time when, you know, kind of trying to get someone fired, it was almost only upside. Not only did it accomplish the goal that you wanted usually it also made you like a hero and probably got you more uh popularity and stuff like that now
Starting point is 00:36:52 i think the internet's figured out how to make a downside it's not free to try to ruin someone's life you know like guys like barstool and stuff like that to business insta a day porno and business insider is like yeah like it wasn't free for them to try to you know i think it was this article it was free for a while too because the people who were oftentimes doing the camp were like we're journalists this is what journalists do this is the game and yeah this is the game we're journalists i don't know this is what we do this is journalism and then people are like yeah i don't care i don't give a shit well it's it's just i don't respect your journalism so i don't care and also don't give a shit. Well, it's just... I don't respect your journalism, so I don't care. And also,
Starting point is 00:37:28 these people have a public platform, so they go, okay. And you're a public speaker with your opinion. It's like, okay, well, here's mine. And I have a whole bunch of followers too. War. Now we're at war. Lives of TikTok has a bigger reach than Taylor and Ren.
Starting point is 00:37:42 You're not anonymously tattling to the the teacher anymore you're declaring war in the you're declaring a fight at the at the ballpark you know i mean now you're going to the cages bike locks at dawn do you see you guys have that the the cage fights at your school uh what my jewish school yeah no if someone you know what i mean if someone's dime went missing or something like that i We didn't have cage fighting. Why do you have a cage? The tennis courts. Oh, at high school we did. Yeah, at high school we had, that was a big,
Starting point is 00:38:12 I don't know if it was the tennis courts. I think it was usually on the baseball diamond. You didn't have that? If someone gave you like a bad stock pick or something like that, you'd go to the tennis courts. To the tennis courts, to the polo grounds. We used to call it the cages though. And there was probably one a week that there was a big fight.
Starting point is 00:38:27 In high school, I don't remember where the fights went down. They were usually, I think, because they were always off school property, right? Because there was a thing you can't be on. Tennis courts were right off school property. Can't be on school property because then it's like a different offense. And everyone went out. There's lots of fights down there. The famous one, my favorite of all time, was when the guy pushed the guy and then a wrench fell out of his thing
Starting point is 00:38:45 and he goes, oh, you've got that wrench now. That never happened with the wrench. The Colombian guy, we used to call him the Lumbian. He was a couple years older than us.
Starting point is 00:38:53 No one wanted to mess with the Lumbian. Did the wrench get used? And his friend, we called the pigeon because he looked like he used to walk like a pigeon and we'd say,
Starting point is 00:39:00 the pigeon and the Lumbian. And he'd always be at home and say it to his face then. No one would have the guts to... We got the guts. No one would... That used to be the thing any time he was around.
Starting point is 00:39:09 He'd be like, oh, I was meeting up with so-and-so and be like, what were you just... You just gave him a nickname, weren't you? I think you were saying something about it. It wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:39:18 You definitely wouldn't want to call him pigeon to his face, man. Shut up. I mean, there's that one guy who I've tried to make fun of from back in your day, the rapper, who you, whenever I do, you're like, no, no, no. I have this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I have some rappers that I went to school with. This one's as if. That I know from home. A couple times I've tried. No, but, well, he's an idiot. I have these rappers that we. White rappers. White rappers that I went to school with that we kind of know, right?
Starting point is 00:39:42 And we kind of clown on them a bit, right? So it's a big, you know, sending around in our group chats, like, you got to check this one out. It's really funny, right? Not even all that I went to school with, just from whatever, being in the music scene and stuff like that. There's a lot of really bad ones, right?
Starting point is 00:39:56 And me and my friends love it. It's like, you know, that's one of the main things that invigorates our group chats. It's amazing, right? Yeah. And he just, and so so but he's also like the biggest gangster dude who's been to jail a bunch of times and we know him fairly well so it's one of these things where you go it's for for danny he's just like oh why don't we play it on the
Starting point is 00:40:18 podcast and i go oh because that'll be the last podcast fucking I don't have those kind of fucking cojones. I mean, we did play it on the old podcast. No, we didn't. No, we did not. No, not a chance. Not a chance. I wouldn't be here. This guy's killed for less.
Starting point is 00:40:40 You think I'm going to fucking put his rap career on blast on the podcast? This isn't your Jewish, you know, internet fights. I feel like we did. This is the real deal, buddy. This is white trash fucking gang members. Yeah. You don't live to play another day. He lives in a different country, though.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Well, I don't know if I told you this one, but it's another rapper that I can't say the name. He's a famous Canadian rapper. And my buddy in LA, he was like, do you know this rapper? He's really famous in Canada. I was like, oh, yeah. I actually like some of his stuff. Are you a fan?
Starting point is 00:41:18 He goes, well, anyways, he lives underneath me. And he's like a huge pain in the ass. Yeah, I remember that. He goes, he moved in next door to me or whatever and this guy's rapping all hours of the night and i go oh have you heard his songs he goes i don't know about any of that he just fucking he told me he was big in canada he was pretty big oh yeah i know you're talking about ah shit i'm to take a quick second here to tell you about Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Sunday, bloody Sunday.
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Starting point is 00:46:07 you know, you got to yesterday, be the person that if you didn't have a mask on, they could go, Hey, what are you doing? Remember? I remember ladies would yell at me,
Starting point is 00:46:16 right? Remember the Amtrak? How big we train from DC and they were like all over our dicks about masks. I was, you know, he came up and started jerking us off and he goes, oh, well, then put a mask on next time. It was nuts. It was out of control, right?
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah, it was nuts. So this guy's, you know, and that's the employees. I'm saying citizens. This lady came up to me with her face mask on yelling at me one time being like, you're being so inconsiderate because I took it down. And I'm just like, you know, I always carry a little piece of food around me so i hold up my granola bar and i go who's the asshole now bitch but it's like a sweet grandma you're like who's the asshole now bitch i'm just laughing at the granola bar like oh maybe you should open your fucking eyes how about that how about that how about you catch me outside?
Starting point is 00:47:05 How about that? So anyways, and now you go from that to tomorrow. You cannot say one thing to anyone. No. That's tough, right? Yeah. Although I think a lot of people think that it's only a matter of time before it's back. They're going to, because there's going to be a deal.
Starting point is 00:47:20 They think this is a temporary ban. Yeah. This is like Rover. They're saving up their school. Getting struck down for a second where they're like, don't worry, it'll be back. It'll be back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, because these people...
Starting point is 00:47:34 I mean, apparently, the whole thing is, so some judge in Florida was just like, no, it's no good, and then the whole country goes, okay, like, why didn't they do this a year ago? Yeah. Where was this judge in Florida a year ago? Yeah, where was this judge? Iida a year ago yeah where was this judge i agree yeah probably judging stupid shit judging bikini contest yeah he's probably judging the fucking it's a woman actually it was like a wet t-shirt contest because
Starting point is 00:47:55 a lot of people mostly on the left are obviously very angry about this and they're like she's not even qualified she's like she's only 30 she's like 33 years old or something agree to agree yeah yeah she's not even qualified i'll wear the mask if you admit that girls aren't qualified qualified to make such a decision that's the you know that's the the the uh compromise i'm willing to make yeah if you admit that girls aren't capable of making these kind of decisions on scale i will wear a mask all the time and you can find some you know fucking wimpy
Starting point is 00:48:26 like some wimpy judge you know he's sniffling while he makes his decisions that is yeah base judge finally
Starting point is 00:48:34 base judge yeah and then so but what took so long exactly right like where's the judge like holy shit I could do this this whole time
Starting point is 00:48:40 I didn't even realize I don't know I don't know if you know anything about the court system but it takes a little while yeah you don't know about that kind of stuff going to jail you don't know about having pri. I don't know. I don't know if you know anything about the court system, but it takes a little while. Yeah. You don't know about that kind of stuff going to jail.
Starting point is 00:48:48 You don't know about having priors. You don't know. That's why Danny's just like, just make fun of these gangster rappers. What's the problem? And you go, well, they don't see it that way, pal. Why don't you fucking call someone out for once in your life, once you're miserable fucking.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Yeah, just call them out from their Upper East Side apartment. Your fucking Upper East Side privilege. Fucking coastal liberals making fun of these white rappers. will fucking yeah just call them out from their upper east side apartment yeah you're fucking upper east side coastal liberals making fun of these white rappers and that is danny's a coastal wimpy liberal he doesn't know what it's like to be in the trenches with the cage fights you know you only know what it's like to get and have your dad fucking sue their dad because he stole your dreidel at lunch recess. Law's the law. You know, your dad,
Starting point is 00:49:27 you go, that's what happens at your school instead of calling a fight. The dads come in and they litigate, they have a litigation off. Your honor.
Starting point is 00:49:35 One kid's dad's the judge. Yeah, yeah, they have a litigation off at the baseball diamond. So, that's why, that's why you don't know
Starting point is 00:49:43 what it's like to be in these mean streets of ajax so there's this article that came out and um the huffpost basically did for people with anxiety or insecurities it's hard to lose the mask so they're this is keep it exactly it's like it wasn't there's no legal we're acting like it was illegal before. But the whole premise, it's so telling on how these people think of everything because they can't just do something.
Starting point is 00:50:10 It's like they can't just be bisexual. We're all fucking bisexual. What? Oh, I'm the... No, no, no, no, no. I'm not just going to tell you my pronouns because you can't tell because I'm very androgynous. The whole fucking country is doing pronouns now.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Yeah, like, I mean, again, everybody remembers before covid seeing asian people wearing masks because they were fucking hip to this yes there was no rule against it no it was not illegal you need it's the kind of thing where people are like i just don't want to be like because they don't want people see the mouthing math equations yeah but they're just like i don't want to be people don't want to be the only one they like the cover of the the herd you know i mean like we're all wearing masks i you know so but wear your fucking mask who cares go wear your mask you know what you could wear a bella clava if you want you could wear a hazmat suit absolutely you can i saw a guy wearing right when covid started i saw this dude wearing it wasn't really they got those going on in china we talked
Starting point is 00:51:04 about that a little later because we got nigel ung in the studio big star yeah you know everyone roger uncle mother effing roger hi yeah yeah yeah super fun dude um so this is what they said when half of my face is covered it helps me almost not be perceived fully. I can relax and be anonymous. Does that sound like the person that you go, let's take someone who's like that and then go, why don't we make everyone else in society work around what they have? Yeah, of course. That's probably how you do it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:37 It's kind of like in a friend group, the one person that says, you know what? I can't be out too late because I got to work tomorrow, so I got to be out at 7. You go, I guess everyone's going home at 7 then, aren know what? I can't be out too late because I got to work tomorrow. So I got to be out at seven. You go, I guess everyone's going home at seven then, aren't we? So we're all going home at seven. And you go, well, why don't you just, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:54 why don't you just have like a late night and you just don't sleep that much? Oh, I need my beauty rest. So I guess we're all getting beauty rest then. We are. Because one person, one person in the squad, we're all going to be beauticians.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Like many women have noted during the pandemic, facial coverings have also given a break from leers and requests to smile more from men, I will say. I've heard that from women, for real, that a lot of women, they do feel like they get bothered less with the mask on. I mean, of course. I bother girls less.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I go, what's up, girl? What's up? How you doing? Oh, yeah, you're looking good, shorty. Mask. Oh, what's up, girl? Mask. Yeah, you know what it is.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah, you're looking good. You just, mask. You just smile more. That's what I do. I mean, famous people. I saw Tom Segura talking about it, that Brad Pitt came to a show of his or whatever, and then Brad Pitt then hit on every girl
Starting point is 00:52:46 without a mask no no but he's like brett pitt's like he's like the show is starting and then brett pitt's like yeah i'm just gonna go watch and he's like you're just gonna go watch the show like from the audience and brett pitt's like yeah watch this and he just like took this he had this giant mask and he put it on his fucking thing and he put this hat on he's like can't tell oh my god so for celebrities huge huge huge yeah i'm usually i'm usually getting mauled on the street without my mask right put that mask on people fucking signing autographs right and left i mean i'm sure for some super famous people like it actually they're like this is awesome yeah like if you just want to be like the closest thing to being
Starting point is 00:53:20 like a normal person but and like anything else, yeah, you go, well, there's two tiny little perks, but on mass, it makes society pretty ridiculous. Yes. Everyone's wearing a mask. So if you want to wear a mask, the whole thing, why do we have to?
Starting point is 00:53:37 Well, I know. If Brad Pitt wants to wear a mask, he still can wear a mask. Yes. He's always been able to wear a mask. They just really, it really comes out and nobody really thought about it. Yes. So he goes goes the mask feels like a security blanket in so many ways
Starting point is 00:53:49 so kind of kind of uh just saying all the stuff that people said about them they're like saying it out loud now but here's an idea instead of having a security blanket why don't you have an actual blanket so if you're the type of person that's like really stressed out about having to wear the mask yeah what you could do white blanket poke the holes now you're a ghost now you're white blanket poke the holes now you're a ghost and then an actual blanket underneath like a blankie yeah and then maybe sort of a stuffed animal for comfort yeah and pacifier and then also check yourself into maybe like a psychiatric ward it was very comfy in there padded walls stuff like that and you'll get your meals served to you so it's a very cushy existence
Starting point is 00:54:31 and you'll never have to deal with any of the stresses of being outside around people without a mask even when you're in your new ghost costume that's true i bet it with the mask thing too a lot of people from canada now that the mask mandate got lifted here and they're probably like oh no that the mask mandate got lifted here and they're probably like oh no they're coming for us next trudeau do something justin the first they're taking away our masks you can take our freedom or actually that's the only that's funny that that's the reverse you can take away our freedom but you'll never take away our masks. You can take our freedom away. In fact, it's strongly encouraged. Strongly.
Starting point is 00:55:08 The less freedom, the better. But you will never take my mask. You'll pry that off my cold head. That'll be the bummer going back to Canada. When they go, masks are mandatory. You go, what country is this? What crappy country is this? So the mask feels like a security blanket.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Without a mask, someone is more exposed to seeing others' physical signs of social anxiety. So they're saying, like, if you do a lot of weird stuff, they can see it now. Like, if you're one of those people that, like, gets nervous and... Yeah. Bad tick. Yeah. Like, flushed skin or sweating, a psychologist in Atlanta said. So, well, this is where you go.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah, sweating. Sweating is not this is like, it's gone from this is going to keep us safe to like, yeah, but what if someone in society is like, can't stop making weird faces and sweating when they have to talk to someone? I mean, you go, all right, mask back on everybody. I mean, again, for that person, this whole thing has been a godsend because now they can wear a mask and it doesn't... And the purpose of this article, to be fair,
Starting point is 00:56:06 isn't to say that this is a reason that all the masks, but it's sort of... It is actually saying, like, if you are this type of person, like, these are the kind of things that maybe you should try to do. Like, this is their advice.
Starting point is 00:56:19 They say, you know, if you're one of those people, so their advice to start with, they go, you know, start slow. Try removing your mask first in a comfortable setting or just with people who feel... This is a sketch I would make. Yeah. You go legitimately...
Starting point is 00:56:31 You're like, first time you take it off is right before you shower. You go, oh. Yeah, try showering without it first. It's a sketch, said the director of the Center for Anxiety and OCD. So that's her advice first. And then she goes, reach out to people if you need help. So I think that if you are in a scenario where taking off this mask
Starting point is 00:56:50 is going to be really, really problematic for you mentally. Yeah. I think that goes without saying, you probably need some help. I mean, just keep it on. Yeah. Well, that's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:57:00 But if they're trying to be in a situation where they take it off every now and then, don't hesitate to ask for help from your support network or from professionals so if you seek professional help he said know that cognitive behavior therapy also known as cbt is a proven form of psychological treatment for social anxiety that helps people confront their fears and change their negative perceptions of themselves and others i've done some cbt go down on the subway and just some fucking crackhead coughs in my mouth. And I go, oh, that really helped me with my germophobia.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Dude. Thank you, sir. That's so funny having like a wing of the psych ward where it's literally just a bunch of people with masks and the person comes in and they go, now this is really going to scare you, but it's, you know, we're going to just really put you
Starting point is 00:57:41 in the devil's den right now. We're just going to try the nose. It's a sketch. Yeah, it's... Okay, so the one last thing that we're just going to talk about before we bring our boy on is a Toronto thing.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And this just made me laugh because it was just such a calamity of errors. So basically, blocked you out of this article, but there's this Toronto restaurant that's very popular. It's fantastic. You like the restaurant? Sugo.
Starting point is 00:58:09 So good. So you like Sugo, right? Yeah, yeah. It's tough to get in there. It's a little tiny American Italian eatery. It's like, what's it? Eastside Mario's, but if it was good and not shit. Well, they went Eastside Mario's.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Who bought a boom out of me? It is really good. They're the best jingle of all time. What's up with you? Well they went Eastside Mario's They're the best jingle of all time So for them And also Eastside Mario's is very good Because you get unlimited bread But it's also they try to fill you up with the bread So it's a catch one too
Starting point is 00:58:35 Hey it's only $10-12 for the whole meal Here's 90 pieces of loaves of bread You fat fuck Well this person says that the restaurant The waiter called them fat Know what I was thinking pieces of loaves of bread and rube you fat fuck well this person says that the restaurant the waiter called them fat yeah and this is kind of funny no one i was thinking because america has such an obesity problem what if you know especially people in america love protesting right so instead of calling it a diet you call it a hunger protest. Ooh. So you go,
Starting point is 00:59:05 you know what I mean? You say, Hey, we're doing a hunger protest against oppression, everybody. Yeah. So basically you convince everyone that's overweight. Girls basically convince all girls that the, like the,
Starting point is 00:59:18 that the only way, and that would be a thing that I feel like you could get, you know, some Republican politicians. Like I bet you could get DeSantis on board if everyone agrees where they go hey listen we call this um a hunger protest against oppression yeah and then they'll agree everyone agrees that uh oppression's going no everybody would be like this sounds great what do i have to do they're like naughty naughty no yeah so girls every girl you basically
Starting point is 00:59:47 say protest something else well i'm thinking um this somebody listens well this is to protest everything somebody listens to the podcast who i'm not gonna homophobia you protest with hunger protest someone who listens to this podcast who i'm not gonna call out by name but they know who they are a little bit of a chubby uh no okay uh he works uh in like a marshmallow factory no in events okay and he was doing this like lizzo event or whatever and he sent me these i was like i think it's like a private event or something but he was sending me liz her rider her backup dancers all look like vader from wwe it's insane earthquakeoon. Dude, honestly, that's what her fucking backup dancers look like. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:28 They probably show up and they're like, those are your backup dancers, like the fucking tech guys. All right, I guess, can you give us a couple hours? We're going to have to reinforce the stage. It's insane. And there's a lot of them. It looks like the Weird the weird al the fat video i swear to god and one of them has like a knee brace on like one of those
Starting point is 01:00:52 the back of it i can't i can't say who it was because he's like probably could like lose his job but it's there it was fucking oh that's a good shit right there oh now all of a sudden danny doesn't want to mention a name that's fucking great dude these are fucking big girls but look at the knee brace like like you know what is crazy i wonder if if there's an element with lizzo too who where she's like i want them all to be bigger than me so i like they all have like the the beer hats with the straw coming down with milkshake probably like i mean i would say that that fucking uh that craft services table is probably barren all right we're gonna do a uh we're doing like a a bit of a thematic piece here we're gonna do like a lard factory it's like oh so we work at the lard factory no we're the lards so the restaurant basically the server was kind of making jokes right but this is then they uh they they basically this is what the the person said he said that her server first made remarks
Starting point is 01:02:02 about what she and her friend decided to order. Noting that her dining parties, choice of salad before a pasta dish was heavy and light. I like that. Yeah. And Ruby's decision to try out two of the restaurant's most renowned entrees, a pasta and chicken bar was heavy and heavy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I mean, dude, that place is you go there. Like I'm not the kind of person who takes leftover. So I might usually eat what I order. That place. I remember I went there a, as you go there, like, I'm not the kind of person who takes leftovers home. I usually eat what I order. That place, I remember I went there a few times with my ex, and like, you're taking home so much food. Well, these people didn't, and they heard about it.
Starting point is 01:02:33 The portions are comically large. They're like, you just get this, and you're like, I don't fucking... Well, this person... Like, man versus food. They got mad, and they posted a big, you know, angry thing or whatever, right? And then they said,
Starting point is 01:02:43 if you look back at our 1,000-star reviews, you'll see people writing about our great staff and the fun nature we didn't receive these by insulting our guests we were just trying to bring some fun and then the internet took that and went you know real wild being like of course they'd fucking double down they won't even apologize but it's so funny there's nothing that makes me laugh more than the waiter uh doing passive aggressive fat comments like oh um and when you like that okay so we're eating for two tonight i guess oh uh you're pregnant congratulations oh um okay so you order that and that okay so i guess we'll get the doggy bag because obviously you're not going to finish oh you are going to finish it
Starting point is 01:03:21 okay well i guess my interest i guess you know there's you see something new every day huh uh so basically the person i want to know what he goes oh we're doing heavy enlightened i guess telling a fat person though okay man you have a fat person and skinny person sitting at the table and you go to the skinny person you go all right so we're doing heavy and light for you and uh heavy and heavy here's the thing though have we established that the person who got angry was in fact overweight? I don't have pictures of her, but why was she getting mad? She's saying the weight staff was calling her
Starting point is 01:03:52 fat. Why would it be a problem if she wasn't fat? I thought it was maybe the kind of thing where it's not even like that she's fat is that she's just like, oh, I'm like, you know, like I have body, you know, like every chick has body. Oh my God, yeah. These jokes could make me fat. Some of this stuff's nothing. And the next thing she goes, they had the audacity.
Starting point is 01:04:07 The server goes, you've got a big appetite. Yeah. So I is okay. This is the thing. If a girl comes in and she's 500 pounds on the mobility scooter and orders, and you go, Oh,
Starting point is 01:04:17 you got someone's hungry. It is. If they're really fat, it's a lot. You, you, you gotta be pretty autistic to say that to like a real big woman lizzo comes in and says i'll order the steak and you go oh big eater
Starting point is 01:04:31 yeah it's really like obviously super yeah if a dude's if a dude's 800 pounds i mean i don't remember i'll order the extra large steak and you go hungry man i don't remember them being like that it wasn't because you know there's some't remember them being like that it was because you know there's some of those restaurants where like that's the vibe where they go yeah the service are wacky here it wasn't like that they go what do you want you know i want that and they go okay you didn't get the you didn't get this wacky treatment that they've been talking about the wacky treatment i was like hey can i get a chicken parm i'm surprised and then they go oh you fat fuck huh i like this place you you went there no that's what happens you go on you said um uh
Starting point is 01:05:10 yeah you go um oh uh you go i love order this and all over this you go do you want to bring it now or do you want to wait for your guests to come they go oh my yeah yeah don't worry we're just gonna fire up the uh fucking forklift so we can get this meal out to you fat piece of shit when they bring your meal and they go oh shit okay so uh that's good and then would you like would you like cutlery in a plate or do you want us to just set that up on a trough like you're accustomed to you know what a big factor is that we don't know here is was the server a woman or a man because that's a big big difference yeah you never know maybe it was was the server a woman or a man? Because that's a big one. Big difference. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:46 You never know. Maybe it was like the server was like, yeah, I know this chick. I hate her. She goes, yeah, I'll have an extra large pasta dish. And then for the side, I will have a second pasta dish. And he goes, fat. Fatty Arbuckle. Oh, ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 01:06:05 We have a celebrity At our table Fatty Arbuckle From that old show I can't remember What it's called But it's one of the Fatty Arbuckle
Starting point is 01:06:13 Fatty Arbuckle Was like an old Legendary fat character He was like a Clown Oh my god I can't believe My favorite actor
Starting point is 01:06:21 From the Gap Girls Has just arrived What a treat To have the Gap Girls has just arrived. What a treat to have the Gap Girls in our... Yeah, so we don't know whether this was a woman or a man who was the server, which I think is... This was aggressive. He goes, at another point in the meal, the server returned to check how everything was going.
Starting point is 01:06:40 He said he decided to comment on how much the girl had eaten. He said, wow wow look at you looks like we're gonna have to roll you out of here that's that's a lot that's a lot but you're right you wouldn't say that to someone that was like yeah like you are like you say that to someone who's skinny and you go oh we're gonna have to make the appetite we're gonna have to roll you out of here and then they go yeah i'm skinny i got that hey maybe we get a pin to like pop you and then deflate some of the air out of this bad boy. Oh, I didn't know we were fat bastard was here.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I get a picture for the wall. You mind if I get a picture of the wall? Eddie Murphy. If you just do me a favor. Oh, it was a farting to a minimum. We got a lot of guests here today.
Starting point is 01:07:21 His comments were hurtful. So it was a guy. Hmm. Wow. Gay guy for sure. You think of a sassy guy? was a guy. Gay guy, for sure. You think of a sassy gay guy? Sassy gay guy. Only a sassy gay guy would be. No straight guy is seeing a chick and being like, hey, you fat pig, when he's working
Starting point is 01:07:33 for tips. Has to be a gay guy. Has to be. Right. Has to be. Oh, shit. I hope you're going to gorge some of that after because this is a meal for a fat person. The bathroom is just back there
Starting point is 01:07:47 just so when you want to go throw up, you fat tub. And you tub alert. And then he comes back. He goes, any dessert? Okay. He's talking to the two of them and he goes, the skinny one.
Starting point is 01:07:56 He's like, any dessert for you and for the tub alert? By the way, if you do go there, they have a great tiramisu. I do remember that. And will the tub alert want anything? And for your fat girlfriend? Would your fat girlfriend want anything?
Starting point is 01:08:08 100% gay guy. That's what I'm going with. Gay guy. Oh, look it. You're going to have to roll yet. Have to be. Because it's only a sassy gay guy would say that. Remember when the sassy gay guy wasn't that happy?
Starting point is 01:08:15 I kept calling him buddy. We talked about this, but there's a real non-binary dude. There's a dude that was non-binary. There was. Thanks, buddy. Hey, buddy. You know what's funny? Hey, buddy. Dobinary dude. I was like, dude, that was non-binary. But I'd be like, thanks, body. Hey, body. You know what was funny? Hey, body, do you mind if I take cash? I didn't notice I was doing it.
Starting point is 01:08:30 At a party we were at, there was, I don't know if I can say this, but there was, I'm not going to obvious, but there was a comic. And some people are like, think he's gay or whatever. And then this guy who we had met was talking to him, but he's not gay. And some guy was talking to him and he goes, yeah, you know, you got good gaydar. And the guy him, but he's not gay. And some guy was talking to him and he goes, yeah, you know, you got good gaydar. The guy's like, I'm not gay.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I was sitting right there and he says that. He goes, you know, you got good gaydar. You're going to count on you being gay. And I was like, I'm not gay.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I'm not gay. I'm not gay. I'm not gay.'m not gay I'm not gay Alright Okay We're gonna bring Nigel on here Super funny fucking dude He actually matches And he likes the sketches and stuff
Starting point is 01:09:14 And me and him made friends On the internet So he came to New York And he sold out a bunch of shows So we're And said come through the studio And we've been hanging out with him So
Starting point is 01:09:23 Alright Without further ado, our boy, Nigel Ng. You usually go for an hour, hour and a half? Yeah, but no rules. Okay. Dude, it's no rules on this podcast. Danny's fiddling around.
Starting point is 01:09:36 We're here with Nigel. No holds barred. Okay, there he's loud. Oh, yeah. That's a loud boy. Am I a loud boy? Well, he's sometimes a loud boy and then sometimes he's a quiet boy.
Starting point is 01:09:45 That was the extent of how loud I'm going to get. But you're a natural internet star. Dude, I remember we've been talking on the internet. I didn't know. I knew I'd seen your stuff around, but I didn't know the extent to which you were fucking... You know what? What are you selling out?
Starting point is 01:10:01 Huge theaters back to back to back to back? Well, yeah. It's a bit crazy to me. Well, yeah, it's, it's, it's a bit crazy to me. I still can't believe it. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:08 So a lot for grammar season and we're putting on town hall in New York. Yeah. Do you know what? All because of a dumb fried rice video. Yeah. So is, uh, cause you did a bunch of celebrities and we were saying,
Starting point is 01:10:19 we were wondering, did any of them not like you? Did he like you? Jamie definitely doesn't like me. Gordon likes me. Gordon Ramsey likes me. Ramsey likes you? Yeah. Yeah. Cause he's you? Jamie definitely doesn't like me. Gordon likes me. Gordon Ramsay likes me. Ramsay likes you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he's got a bit of a sense of humor.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Yes, yes. But Jamie Oliver, no sense of humor? No, no. I think he's too stuck up his own ass. He's been famous for too long. Yeah, he's been famous since he was like 12. Yeah. And housewives love him.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah, chefs get a big ego, eh? Yeah. So when I made the video, my agent at at the time she sent that video over to Jamie's team and being like sick right what do you guys think and then the word back from Jamie's team was I quote and I quote they said mixed reactions from the team which is the most British way of calling me a cunt yeah so that's how I know I think Nigella doesn't like me either
Starting point is 01:11:07 because I reviewed Nigella Lawson you guys know her here I know her she's got a he's into food I'm into food Ryan will tell you
Starting point is 01:11:14 about his food stuff and you'll be mortified I have some of my own we have a kind of a running bit on the show but okay so Nigella
Starting point is 01:11:22 I don't think she likes me either because I make fun of her coke habit so oh really it was just you know she had a few Okay. So Nigella, I don't think she likes me either because I make fun of her coke habit. Oh, really? It was just, you know, she had a few. I'm sure she doesn't do it anymore, but she had a few articles coming out where she was going through a rough divorce. Yeah, yeah. She's getting into the white.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Oh, you know what? I remember that. Yeah. So it's not her fault. And I'm on her side. I'm on Nigella's. I'm on your side, Nigella. But if the news article is there, then it's fair game.
Starting point is 01:11:45 What? I love how you looked in the camera. You remember you were saying, she doesn't watch this. I'm clipping this up's. I'm on your side, Nigella. But if the news article is there, then it's fair game. What? I love how you looked in the camera. You're saying, she doesn't watch this. I'm clipping this up and sending it to her. This is my new dish that I've been experimenting.
Starting point is 01:11:55 And this is even before we're going to do the podcast over the last couple of weeks. A big one that I've been working with lately is white rice and then chipotle mayo. Chipotle mayo. Just that.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Just that. So a lot of times what happens if you order food, let's say Thai food or whatever, or even Indian food, it comes with rice and you always have too much rice. So you take the rice and then you pour tons of chipotle mayo in it and then you sort of mix it up and that's nice. I mean, I have...
Starting point is 01:12:19 That's what I've been working with lately. I haven't had that. I don't like the pairing of the chipotle, but I have from time to time, I'll eat white rice with Kewpie mayo, soy sauce, and some furikake. It's not bad. Surely you need something else, right?
Starting point is 01:12:34 It's not just the rice and the... It'll just be... Well, it'll be kind of like... Yeah, there'll be something on top, but sometimes if it's just in a pinch, I will eat just that. Okay, one more. That's my trash.
Starting point is 01:12:43 You pour cereal into ice cream. So that's another one. So you take a bowl of ice cream, and then you put cereal in the ice cream. I think that's fine. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. That's just a topping. You just are kind of thinking out of the box in terms of toppings.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Yeah, but the rice thing. Yeah, that sounds grim, man. Sauce on rice. It's grim. It was. I mean, I grew up poor. Even my mom tried to put some meat on it sometimes. Sometimes you're too lazy, man. Sauce on rice. It's grim. It was. I mean, I grew up poor. Even my mom tried to put some meat on it sometimes. Sometimes you're too lazy, though.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Or an egg. An egg. Yeah, an egg. An egg is a good one. Didn't Gordon Ramsay was getting, he did like a, what was it, a Chinese food place, and then people were getting mad at him for appropriation stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:13:19 Yes, I've actually been. It's called Lucky Cat. Oh, yeah. It's in London. It's in London. Funny name for a Chinese food place. I know. And I actually
Starting point is 01:13:25 interviewed on my old podcast I interviewed the journalist who wrote about it wrote this story and then she said Gordon Ramsay fanboys were just coming after her
Starting point is 01:13:34 right but whose side are you on well at first I was on her side and then I saw what she wrote on Twitter so she basically
Starting point is 01:13:42 you were on her side because you're like oh everyone shouldn't be coming after her like that but were you on her side with you're like, oh, everyone shouldn't be coming after her like that. But were you on her side with that he shouldn't have made the restaurant? No, no.
Starting point is 01:13:49 I think anybody can make any restaurant, man. You know, because people always say like, oh, white guys try to be culturally appropriate and make Asian food. But I know a lot of Asian guys who make shitty Asian food too. So please. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:01 More shitty white food. Yeah, shitty white food. Definitely. Yeah, of course. Shitty cheese. There's actually very close to here. I don't know the name of it and I don't know if it's still open. so please yeah yeah more shitty white food yeah shitty white food definitely yeah of course shitty cheese there's actually very close to here I don't know the name of it
Starting point is 01:14:07 and I don't know if it's still open but there was right before we moved here there was this woman opened a Chinese restaurant she was a white lady and she called it
Starting point is 01:14:15 this is a weird move yeah but she goes it's clean Chinese food as in because Chinese food has a lot of oil in it that's what she meant she goes it's clean Chinese food
Starting point is 01:14:23 in the sense that it's like clean in terms of dietary and she got, she was public enemy number one. But I think it actually might still be open. I think I walked by it. It's like around here.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Yeah. Wow. I think I saw that. Yeah, yeah. And they hate, I think she's a Jewish woman too and they're like, oh, lady.
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Starting point is 01:17:05 and first of all before that because you're from Malaysia, right? Yeah, yeah. And you know what the best part about being just any ethnicity is? If you get really popular and you go to a town every like
Starting point is 01:17:17 I bet you you come to a place where like every Malaysian person within like a 300 fucking like you know it doesn't have to be because white people have it if they're Italian like Sebastian Maniscalco
Starting point is 01:17:27 every Italian in a fucking 100 mile radius is coming to that show Russell Peters when he used to come to Toronto there isn't a single
Starting point is 01:17:35 brown person that doesn't know about that show happening yeah I think I have a little bit of that Malaysians come hopefully other Asians too
Starting point is 01:17:43 some Filipinos some Indonesians Koreans yeah my friend Jocelyn she has this big joke about how like Malaysia a little bit of that Malaysia's come hopefully other Asians too some Filipinos some Asians Koreans yeah my friend Jocelyn she has this big joke about how like Malaysia I won't say like
Starting point is 01:17:50 her punchlines or whatever but the joke was basically she's Malaysian and she was kind of saying that Malaysia was like part of China and then China dumped Malaysia
Starting point is 01:17:58 and then now Malaysia's doing good is that no I know that joke I think she's talking about Singapore Singapore used to be a part of Malaysia. Then Malaysia dumped Singapore. Malaysia dumped Singapore.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Yeah. All right. I think I've seen that joke online somewhere. Okay. So if I was really don't know from the basics. Okay. Why are there, is there a lot of Chinese people in Malaysia? Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Yes. Ethnically 30%. Are you Chinese? Yeah, but it's mostly Muslim, right? Yeah. 60% Muslim. 25% Chinese. I think 25, 30%. Are you Chinese? Yeah, but it's mostly Muslim, right? Yeah, 60% Muslim. 25% Chinese. I think 25-30% Chinese.
Starting point is 01:18:28 Is that how... So it's kind of how whatever... I mean, we're Canadian here, but there's a lot of... That's... So as most people... Is Malaysian like an actual thing where you would be in China
Starting point is 01:18:39 and be like, no, I'm Malaysian or is everyone in Malaysia kind of Chinese? No, if I go to China, they view me as Malaysian. You can't say you're Chinese. You're not even from there
Starting point is 01:18:47 and the language, the language is the same but the way we use it, the slang words are all different. Yeah, I don't know any Chinese shit, man. Oh, but they're the ones
Starting point is 01:18:55 that that's what you got in trouble with the Chinese government. Yes, yes. Well, that's the, that's a different, yeah, that's the government. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:02 But I thought for some reason when I was like, I guess if i was getting in trouble with like a government that i'm like not a part of you'd be like yeah who cares but i thought that maybe there was sort of a connection or do you just have like a big huge fan base there i i have chinese social media platform accounts you know right what right yeah do you guys not have that yeah are you okay so you've had a few like cancellation things yeah but the biggest one that i guess we would know about is that you basically uh the chinese
Starting point is 01:19:33 government was mad that you put someone on there that criticized them is that like the gist of it i don't even think it was a chinese government i don't i think they're too busy minding their own business you know i think it's just Chinese government. I think they're too busy minding their own business. I think it's just the people on the Chinese social media platforms, on their Twitter. So for context for people who don't know, I did a collab with this, I think, New York YouTuber, Mike Chen. You know, nothing against that guy,
Starting point is 01:19:59 but I just didn't know he was such a vocal anti-China person. So we did the video. I thought, whatever, just put it on YouTube, all good and then i i got on a flight back to malaysia i got off the plane my my phone started ringing from my chinese social media agents at the time they were like you gotta take this video down because your your accounts are getting reported your chinese social media accounts are getting oh so so it's actually the yeah it's just citizens who are yeah okay so i was i was still new to chinese social media. So I was like, oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:20:25 yeah, okay, handle it. I was jet lagged. I was so tired. I just landed in Malaysia. I had to quarantine for seven days by myself
Starting point is 01:20:30 in Malaysia in a hotel room. So yeah, just handle it, just handle it. So I let them handle it and then this happened, basically.
Starting point is 01:20:36 What happened when they handled it? So I took the video, they told me they took the video down. I took the video down. And then they wrote a little status update
Starting point is 01:20:44 on the yeah yeah yeah and then oh because they manage your social yeah yeah just posting as you essentially yeah i i did have to approve it but you know you see these things you're like yeah i post it whatever you're not posting a status update in text form you're like whatever right you let them do it now or do you feel like you need to do them now now i don't know i'm with a different chinese social media agent now who's based in the west so she has a better sense of these two things because when when all that chinese shit was happening there was no not a single pr person who's well versed in both worlds yeah what can i say on chinese social media platform that won't be twisted by the western
Starting point is 01:21:22 in america you have to hate your government. There, you have to love it. Yeah. And what was the, what did he say that was so, like what's, like he just has all the things the government,
Starting point is 01:21:33 about the Chinese government, like the CCP that. He says a lot of stuff. He says a lot of stuff, yeah. I don't even know now. When I work with him, he was fine. He was just a normal dude
Starting point is 01:21:44 and you believe whatever you want to believe, right?. When I worked with him, he was fine. He was just a normal dude. And you believe whatever you want to believe, right? So when I posted that stuff, it turns out in China, it's viewed that if you are seen working with someone, they just assume you share the same political beliefs. Do you think it's the same here where it's like, you know, everyone's whatever. They're like, oh, this guy's sexist, racist.
Starting point is 01:22:02 You got to stay away. That's the same as there where they go, oh, this guy's like against the government. i should do a collab with tucker carlson and see what no literally i was literally about to say if you go on you could be like some leftist and if you go on tucker carlson a large group of people are like oh that guy i didn't know that guy was right wing yeah true like that's just uh yeah but do you get do you get reported on social media? Yeah, because, well, I guess lots of people, like if you did something here where you said the N-word or something,
Starting point is 01:22:31 all the people would come and they'd try to report you. But they'd go through old videos, like essentially a mob of people. But they're just trying to get you removed from the platform. So it's the same there. It feels like it, what you must have both you know um epic meal time you know what that is yes so that guy harley was like he the guy from that just posted i guess he's friends with sam hyde now okay and he posted some just a photo of
Starting point is 01:22:57 him and sam hyde and there were all these comments being like oh i didn't know you were alt right now some people were getting mad at him just for posting a photo with a guy wow yeah very much a lot of guilt by association stuff so the status they posted for me to me it was just like oh yeah whatever you take a video
Starting point is 01:23:12 in China to me it's just oh yeah it's a stock China thing whatever just post it but then that statement in Mandarin got translated
Starting point is 01:23:19 by Twitter and it comes across as if I'm apologizing on behalf of the Chinese government. Oops. So it seemed like you're shilling for the government. Yeah, exactly. And I'm like, dude, I just made a video about dumplings, man. What is this?
Starting point is 01:23:36 It's like the most innocuous thing. Yeah. And at that point, I was first time getting canceled. Do you think you should have just left it up and then it just would have blown over? Do you think the movie? Yeah. I think, knowing what I know now, being canceled a few times,
Starting point is 01:23:50 yeah, you just let it blow over. Never apologize. Never address it. Unless you do something at a costly level. If you feel like you should or if you believe that you want to address it, yeah. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So now I'm never letting anybody else
Starting point is 01:24:05 touch my uh yeah social media because those people are just on to the next thing there's always the next thing and then they just are go on to the they wait for their it is interesting pound of flesh and then their pound of flesh that I guess you could see that here a little bit like you know now that the depending on the government but it is interesting in China where it's like they have a mob of people being like yo this guy is against the government, but it is interesting in China where it's like, they have a mob of people being like, yo, this guy is against the government. Yeah. They are. There are bots out there.
Starting point is 01:24:30 And then, I still get comments, oh, you are, you're a Uyghur concentration camp denier. Right. You're a pro-CCP, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:38 you're anti-human rights. And that's because you, because you basically, when you said, okay, I'll take the video down at the time, they interpreted that as like, yeah, no one talks shit. I didn't know that he talked shit about the Chinese government.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They interpreted it as me kowtowing to the government. Whereas you thought you were kowtowing to your fans, probably. I just didn't want my accounts to get banned, man. And the fans, too. It is. But yeah, I guess you have to deal with that in every other country. I was new to the
Starting point is 01:25:05 Chinese social media space I had no idea how it works I was two weeks into the account I never log on I mean my naivety is like I honestly thought when I read that about you
Starting point is 01:25:13 that it was you know you get a call from someone who's like I work at the government we saw your post not okay like I didn't think
Starting point is 01:25:21 it was just people I thought it was some guy like you know I liked that narrative too Soviet style can you update my Wikipedia to say that it is true
Starting point is 01:25:31 because you kind of like well I don't know you hear that how much like things are so wild over there you know journalists disappear and all that stuff
Starting point is 01:25:38 but I did have that concern I have relatives in China that's what I did in that moment because I was so in such under so much attack every three four seconds twitter facebook tiktok instagram hate comment hate comment my agents were getting blasted email inboxes were getting blasted yeah telling them you
Starting point is 01:25:56 should drop this guy whatever you know like that was the with the russia stuff there was uh there's all these players in the nhl who are russian And some of them, people, like the moment Russia invaded, they're like, okay, you need to speak out. You need to say this is bad. And they're like, yeah, we have family in Russia. What do you want us to do? Our family lives in Russia. Yeah, yeah, go out and be like, yo, Putin's a pussy. Yeah, Putin's a pussy.
Starting point is 01:26:18 Like, fuck him. And you go, yeah, and all your family disappears. And also, I'm a comic. And why do you expect me to speak out right like apple doesn't speak out apple sells tons of iphones in china yeah they have factories there they work with the government there like you know they don't live there yeah like it's not my country i don't want to say shit about it you know yeah yeah yeah so yeah there's that no that's episode that's a crazy one but I it is like
Starting point is 01:26:45 there is that part where I go to me it is a little scarier you don't live there so again I'd be less but the family thing where you go yeah you're gonna get
Starting point is 01:26:53 in trouble here but you know that one thing that's not gonna happen is you're probably in America your family's gonna get put in jail I'm going on tour there
Starting point is 01:27:00 yes I'm touring Taiwan which is part of China oh hey hey hey you know it's all the things that's not well I say all the wrong Yes, I'm touring Taiwan, which is part of China. Oh! He knows all the things to say. Well, it will be soon, probably. Yeah, I'll clip it up and put it on my Chinese socials.
Starting point is 01:27:14 I'm also touring Hong Kong, China. And Mongolia, China. Oh, yeah, we're going to... Africa, China. New York, China. Yeah. They're comingork china yeah yeah they're coming here man they're coming here shit that was the first one so then what what happened after because you said there was more there was a second cancellation right what was the other thing oh that's just a dumb ukraine joke i tweeted oh you got so yeah yeah but i that at that point i was more well prepared i know what to expect so i just I just addressed it on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:27:46 The podcast got a few more listens out of it. So that was good. But the Ukraine thing, I was in... Did you do a heartfelt apology? No. I just basically said, I'm just making jokes, guys. Fuck you guys. Learn from the last one.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Don't let PR people tell you what to say. Because I was doing some interviews for the tour, right? Around the UK, I was just doing interviews. And then all of a sudden, my PR guys suddenly started tagging along with me. Because they knew. I'm like, fuck you. Let me just say whatever I want, man. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:18 You're like your handlers. Yeah. Do you work with PR people? I have in the past. And I legitimately, the only thing I've worked with PR people In the last little while Was to like help set up and schedule things If I'm doing like tours of things
Starting point is 01:28:31 So it's logistical but not I'm not going to ask them what to say about anything But I remember when I was younger Some of the biggest mistakes I think I made Was listening to PR people I mean yeah They're idiots They just want to not get fired.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Yeah. And we want to be funny. Sometimes that clashes with each other. Yeah. Yeah. So I remember some interviews I did. What was the Ukraine thing? What did you say?
Starting point is 01:28:53 Oh, I just, the initial tweet was me saying that, adding extra dates to Ukraine, guys, LOL. Oh, my God, dude. Something dumb like that. And then just people on Twitter were like, People on Twitter, but then tabloids in Asia too. Malaysia, dude. Something dumb like that. And then just people on Twitter were like this. People on Twitter, but then tabloids in Asia too. Malaysia, Singapore. My mom was calling me like,
Starting point is 01:29:10 Nigel, what'd you say this time? What'd you say this time? I'm a bad boy. Mommy's smoking a cigarette. Leather jacket. Yeah, yeah. Once you had the first cancellation, it all changes.
Starting point is 01:29:20 They turned you over to the dark side. The concept of in Malaysia, if you if you are somewhat known they just view you as a celebrity right they don't view you
Starting point is 01:29:28 as a comedian or anything so yeah you're just in the celebrity class yeah and I'm like I'm not
Starting point is 01:29:33 I talk shit all the time you know and celebrities they think of someone like very bland neutral you know they don't say shit
Starting point is 01:29:40 very much mannequins yeah mannequins who wear Prada because they're a spokesperson for it so they don't want to piss off Prada. But I
Starting point is 01:29:47 mean no high street fashion brand is sponsoring me so I'll say whatever I want. That's the one thing that PR people can be good for is like legitimately when I had one the only thing that I remember even back in the day I've not done this recently but you go when I was like 25 I remember it used to
Starting point is 01:30:03 be like yo get me free clothes yo can you get me into this like exclusive party like stuff it was just like straight up for fun you're like yeah i want to bring a chick to this thing like can you get me tickets and then they're they can pull those things off yes they can be good for that you can get like premiere movie premieres yeah that's the only thing but when they go with you To I did a podcast With a food critic In London And then the PR person
Starting point is 01:30:27 Wanted to come into The interview with me Just to kind of Mind you Just to make sure You didn't Yeah and that's crazy They're going crazy
Starting point is 01:30:34 On the other side Yeah but they're probably You guys their thing You're like This guy's making Our life a fucking nightmare Yeah And also as a comic
Starting point is 01:30:41 It's just such a Pussy move isn't it For sure It's impossible As a comic you can't do that No you lose, isn't it? For sure. It's impossible. As a comic, you can't do that. No, you lose all the respect from your peers, man, to have a PR person just editing you in real time.
Starting point is 01:30:53 My God. Especially now that you're on the internet, talking all the time, saying your opinions. That's why when big celebrities be like, oh, I'll be a podcaster i'll be like a youtube guy usually unless their whole thing is uh you know get in shape like you can do it like inspirational pump you up stuff yeah if it's anything in the opinion realm no one cares because it's like all the pr person does is tell you the opinions that everyone already has so why do i need to hear it now yeah you go yeah go, yeah, you're right. That's the opinion that everyone's saying.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Yeah, it's just really boring. And if you, how do you put this? The PR people, they want to, they're just there to do their job, you know, and try to not get you canceled. Yeah. But sometimes getting canceled, to me, is a tension. And tension's good.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Absolutely. As long as it's not a tension of the CCP I guess but it sounds like it wasn't even that yeah it wasn't that's so that's what you should be aiming for that should be the goal
Starting point is 01:31:51 is when like like President Xi has to make some sort of statement about you well I do have shows in Taiwan coming out yeah shows in China coming out yeah
Starting point is 01:32:03 he's not gonna know you gotta go to the other way what oh say that pro taiwan independence why would i side with the losers you know all right well all your shows in taiwan just got canceled well because that's another thing with like you know china that me and like we we hear all this stuff about what's going on with COVID there, but only from American publications, really. Oh, by the way, you guys. Are they locked down there? Shanghai is.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I sent you this. I think, yeah. Shanghai has. I sent you just before this. Just pretending you're Chinese. That's fine. It's close enough. Who cares about Malaysia?
Starting point is 01:32:44 You can't get Ronnie Chang to fill you in on that. Shanghai, they have the robot dogs. Do you see that? You know those like the Boston Dynamics robot dogs? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:32:54 you guys have that too though. No, they're in the streets telling people, they're walking around the streets of Shanghai telling everybody like with a loudspeaker
Starting point is 01:33:02 being like, wash your hands, stay inside. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, apparently thespeaker being like, wash your hands, stay inside. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, apparently the dogs are going like, don't leave your house. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Okay, I didn't know that. And they can't be confirmed or denied. This is either propaganda that you're saying. No, no, no. No, it's confirmed. And there was this guy, he's an American, who lives in Shanghai. I messaged him because I had questions.
Starting point is 01:33:23 He's like, I'm not speaking about this. But he had this whole tweet thing about how in shanghai because they have like this they're locked down right now because they're like zero covid and so they're locked down it's like you really cannot leave your house other than to get tested i think is the only thing is you can leave to go get a covid test and he's like we've been locked up but so all the stores started running out of food because you could get only get your food via delivery and so he's like we've been locked up but so all the stores started running out of food because you could get only get your food via delivery and so he's like at one point it was hard to get um an appointment for a delivery but all the stores would show having food and he's like day 14 he's like now the stores don't even show that they have any food and so then he's like i went to a liquor
Starting point is 01:33:58 store bought a bottle of liquor and he's like they sold the frozen steaks at the liquor store so i was able to like get frozen steaks and then he's like they sold frozen steaks at the liquor store so I was able to like get frozen steaks and then he's like and then I traded the liquor like it becomes like this weird barter wow
Starting point is 01:34:10 of course the American propaganda machine would show you this right no it's just the guy no it's just the guy though it's not like who's this guy
Starting point is 01:34:17 he's a lawyer no no he's just a lawyer he's and people ask him well why don't you move and he's like no no no like this is my home
Starting point is 01:34:23 like I'm not he's not even saying, fuck the government. He's just being like, this is- He's saying we got to get this food thing sorted out. He's just like, the food thing's an issue, and this is what's going on. But people are like, why don't you move? And he's like, no, this is my home. I don't want to move.
Starting point is 01:34:34 I've lived here for 30 years or something. It's not even critical so much of the government. And obviously, but he's just being like, stuff's kind of starting to crack. The system's starting to crack a bit. I think they'll figure it out. Yeah. You know, the worst things have happened to China before. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Yeah, they'll figure it out. With the, okay, so I have a, like, like a sketch that I would, I wanted to pitch to you that I've been doing. Not to like do, but this is, to me, one of of the things and you could tell me if it's like this with you but i want like the idea of uh like white like a white comedian telling his parents he's going to be a comedian versus like an asian comedian telling his parents he wants to be a comedian and it's just like having a like the white parents are like yeah i don't know go do whatever the fuck you want the asian parents are like melting down like ah i can't my sons are comedian the lowest of the low did you have that uh not that extreme but i get that sentiment yeah but
Starting point is 01:35:31 it wasn't your parents weren't like that no but they were worried though when i went full-time comedy that was before uncle roger blew up so they weren't like don't do it they were more just like yeah just keep your day job just do it on the side yeah you know Uncle Roger was the only thing that made them laugh because they finally understand me for once it's true
Starting point is 01:35:51 because in Malaysia the accents are stronger so I speak I've lived here a while now so I speak with quite a neutral accent you know this probably sounds
Starting point is 01:35:59 a bit different from yours but it sounds quite neutral to a Malaysian ear and it's hard for them to understand but then the Uncle Roger character came about it's just talking about rice
Starting point is 01:36:07 with an accent exaggerated accent simple words so that was the first time I saw my parents laugh and then they were like oh okay I think Nigel's doing okay
Starting point is 01:36:17 I think he can do this yeah you were cooking now you can buy them stuff yeah I try I send money back home every month like a faithful immigrant yeah but then my mom keeps asking me for more money chill out really my best here yeah i do that that's
Starting point is 01:36:32 another one where i i say on stage i've been saying that like yeah like uh immigrants that are white will send money home to their family like a white person would never in a million years send money home that That's so crazy. Yeah. What do you guys do with the extra money? Just use it on yourself, I guess.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Yeah, yeah. I think a lot of times I lose mine in the stock market. If I have any extra, I ask Danny for some stock picks. That's generally what we do. I think it would be weird if you sent your parents money.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Would they receive it in their Venmo? It's like, is everything okay? Yeah, what are you sending me money for, you weirdo? What do they think of the woke shit in like
Starting point is 01:37:08 fucking Singapore and Malaysia oh we don't give a shit we are the most racist people out there seriously Malaysia is Malay Chinese Indian
Starting point is 01:37:16 the three main races we shit on each other all the time we don't have that woke concept who's not racist what culture is they go yeah
Starting point is 01:37:23 we don't have a racist bone in our body nobody here is racist it doesn't exist I guess in most places there's just one thing Who's not racist? What culture is, they go, yeah, we don't have a racist bone in our body. Nobody here is racist. It doesn't exist. I guess in most places there's just one thing, you know?
Starting point is 01:37:31 Where? It's only really white countries that are like, that's crazy. I know, but no, like Africa, you go like,
Starting point is 01:37:36 Nigerians go, what do you think about Kenyans? They're like, don't get me started on Kenyans. They've got to use like a paint swatch to get racist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:44 No, it's just once that fucking line of their border shifts and they go those people on the other side of this line fuck that or they find a religion
Starting point is 01:37:50 or something anything yeah it's literally human nature exactly exactly but you guys get a lot of shit you know
Starting point is 01:37:56 you guys get so much shit for shit I used to do back home we had it good for too long is that what yeah cause my i've had comic friends that went to tour in like asia and they'll say that a lot of it is you know you want to do like kind of race shit like that's almost a stuff i mean think about you know russell peters and a
Starting point is 01:38:16 lot of people that like have those huge audiences over there that's like a huge part of what you talk about but it is interesting that because when like i imagine there's comedy clubs in like malaysia like other comment like proper like clubs but they're they must be fairly new yes right like there weren't any 30 years ago no no i think it was only in the last 10 years like i went to paris uh seven years ago and they had a comedy club there and they go this is this shit's brand new here. Like this Western style comedy, this is brand new. Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:48 Yep. Performing in Europe too is sometimes a pain, man. They're all so quiet. Yeah. Why? Are they like pretentious Paris kind of people?
Starting point is 01:38:56 I think Americans just love to cheer. They're just waiting to, waiting to cheer. You know, like I have a phrase like, I have a, Too hip.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Too polite, too hip, too proper. You've met a European. Yeah, You know, like I have a phrase like, I have a, Too hip. Too polite, too hip, too proper. You've met a European. Yeah, too proper. Too moderate. Everything in moderation.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Well, they like to look down their nose at loud Americans. Yes. They know those loud, dumb Americans. Yeah. Hooting and hollering.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Right, exactly. That's what I like, man. At a comedy show, you want that. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 01:39:21 In Britain, the same thing too. Like in the UK, initially I wanted to film my special there. And then I did my first show in Chicago. I'm like, fuck that. Cancel the video crew. Do it here.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Do it in America. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I have a line in my set where I say, give me a cheer if you were beat as a kid, right? So in the UK, normally. Some people cheer if you were beat as a kid. Here, I say, give me a cheer. Before I finish a sentence sentence people are like whoa whoa
Starting point is 01:39:45 just waiting yeah people are jazzed up yeah cheer yes my turn to shine yeah
Starting point is 01:39:51 that's funny yeah I love American audiences man yo were you divorced is that the thing yes how old are you actually
Starting point is 01:39:57 31 okay so that's young right got divorced got married young got divorced kids no thankfully
Starting point is 01:40:03 oh yeah that would be a debacle That's just a break You broke up with your dad Yeah, good person too Didn't take half my shit Is the YouTube Is the fucking YouTube
Starting point is 01:40:11 Uncle Roger's groupies Coming through? Got a few here and there And are the groupies Demanding that when you smash You do the character? Only one Only one. Only one so far.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Sometimes I get my name wrong and call me Roger in bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, fine. Just demanding? I don't know what your name is either. So, you know. And just like critiquing their boobs
Starting point is 01:40:40 with the voice. You go, you call this a boob? I wish. Pornhub just started following me on instagram i don't even know i just saw that they follow me because i use their little jingle in my videos all the time he did a funny thing that is so funny but he did a pretty funny thing he goes uh he tagged them afterwards going uh yo can you guys give me a free subscription
Starting point is 01:41:01 then yeah and then they did right they haven't got back to me yet yes they're waiting on the code yeah but that that's funny we have the same like orange shade in the logo and my my polo shirt and I use a little jingle you
Starting point is 01:41:13 know that yeah yeah that's great they like it you know do people ever because the you know do people ever watch the videos I have this a little bit that people will see the
Starting point is 01:41:24 video stuff and then they come to see your comedy show and they're like oh you're just like a normal comic just like talks about whatever sex and all that shit and they're just like what the hell i know this is gonna be more family where's the rice yes or just even more like offensive too yeah i think okay well the videos themselves aren't super family friendly you know i talk about i have a Capitol riot joke in one of the videos, you know, little bits and pieces. Yeah, I guess that's true.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Because you're kind of playing this like asshole character. Yeah, I love it so much. There are certain lines I deliver on stage where it only works with Uncle Roger. I just tried that line as myself. People just go, ooh. Basically, I say- Because it's mean when you do it?
Starting point is 01:42:03 Yeah, exactly. I just say any vegans in people cheer and Uncle Roger oh it's alright we accept people with mental illness here so that's what I say
Starting point is 01:42:10 and as Uncle Roger that gets a huge laugh because people know the character and I've said that as myself before people just go ugh
Starting point is 01:42:16 you know they're laughing like half the joke is that he's an asshole so we can make all these fictional guys an asshole I know it's always I always like
Starting point is 01:42:25 you're always like sort of playing around with is it the character being an asshole or is it like I'm always kind of like up to opinion do I think this
Starting point is 01:42:34 maybe you know what I mean yeah you gotta be a little more sensitive not sensitive what do you mean that's it people think
Starting point is 01:42:39 I actually think what Uncle Roger thinks well yeah it's like creative it's like you have to give them the permission to laugh and if it's you being
Starting point is 01:42:46 an asshole they're like well I can't laugh as an asshole but then if it's a guy that's like oh we agree this guy's bad
Starting point is 01:42:52 all of a sudden they feel like they have permission to laugh at it because people are as much as they think I mean you watch with all the Will Smith stuff
Starting point is 01:43:00 how much people's opinions will change completely one day versus what they're told to think so it's like you can tell people, audiences can say, people can go on the internet and say whatever they want. I think that you should laugh at this and I think you laugh at this.
Starting point is 01:43:14 But at the end of the day, you can trick all of their brains in two seconds. They don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, yeah. So Uncle Roger is a good way to couch the meanness, the permission to laugh. Yeah, exactly. Well, the same people would say racism. They'd be like, we don't like racist jokes. But if someone goes, I was at a bar and this racist guy
Starting point is 01:43:30 or my uncle who's racist came through and said this and this and this. And I was like, can you believe it? It's like you're still saying all this stuff with punchlines. The punchline was the racist part. But the idea is like, but we think this is a bad guy yeah but it's the same racist joke
Starting point is 01:43:48 you're trying to make same joke and we'll still laugh at it but like can you believe that this guy said this joke that we all just laughed at
Starting point is 01:43:53 it's a little trick yeah I always think if you do like high status comedy where you're like kind of bullying people the trick is to trigger
Starting point is 01:44:01 their laughter before you trigger their empathy you know that's how and giving them permission to laugh is one way their laughter before you trigger their empathy you know that's how and giving them permission to laugh is one way to do it
Starting point is 01:44:08 you are right that is what it is high status comedy and then on top of that we need more of those high status Asian comics man I've seen so many self-deprecating ones
Starting point is 01:44:17 and then it's like a lot of I get a lot of criticism saying all these characters enforcing Asian stereotypes which is eh
Starting point is 01:44:24 and but you know you can also at age i've also seen so many asian comics not do the accent yeah but put our people down even more you know well that's i mean that's just a general comedy trick self-de like the self-deprecation kind of yeah but i know what i know exactly what you mean because then it becomes like when that becomes a there is like a stereotype about it with Asian people, but also there is this other part where it's like, once that becomes, everyone's doing it,
Starting point is 01:44:50 it's, you want to go the other way as well. Yeah. I want, I want to, you know, shit on people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Shit on white chefs. That's, that's what I do. You know? And, and also, also the people who, there are people who just don't do accents at all in their act.
Starting point is 01:45:05 And it's like white people, me, I don't have accents at all in their act. White people. Me, I don't have that. I can't. You can do other white people's accents. I really can't. I'm not saying I can't because I won't. There is this attitude of on stage, I know you don't do the Indian accent because it's rude.
Starting point is 01:45:19 And I'm like, I would if I could. We have a friend of ours back in Toronto. You're lucky. To be honest, I guess I'm lucky that I'm not good at a friend of ours back in Toronto. You're lucky. Everyone's... To be honest, I guess I'm lucky that I'm not good at accents because I'd be out here. So I was talking to this Nigerian today. I would be abusing them.
Starting point is 01:45:33 We have a friend of ours in Toronto, a comedian. Man of many accents? And he does... He's really good at accents. He's a white ginger guy. But he only does... He'll do Boston accents, Irish accents. The spiciest he gets is Jamaicanican and then we're like we're always like when we live there we'd be like do the forbidden accents
Starting point is 01:45:51 do the forbidden accents he's like no he's like i won't do it yeah why does everyone you meet just happen to have a white accent i was at the airport and this guy i happen to be from chicago oh yeah and we're like and he's good really good at accents we're like do the forbidden I was at the airport and this guy happened to be from Chicago. Oh, yeah? And he's really good at accents. We're like, do the forbidden accents. Never once have you met a retard. That's what we're saying.
Starting point is 01:46:14 I was talking to this guy and he said, turned out to be a retarded guy. What would that sound like? A retarded Chinese guy. All right, okay, here we go. He never wanted to do the retarded Chinese guy. And the bus driver was a Scottish. He honestly was.
Starting point is 01:46:31 We go, do the forbidden accents. Just taking the jokes and making them so acceptable. A Scottish guy, a guy from Chicago, and a Bostonite walk into a bar, and you're like, what? And then this guy from Queens shows up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:46 So those are definitely the forbidden ones. Yeah, yeah. But no, I cannot do accents. I can't even do like, I have like family with Irish accents, and I can't do an Irish accent. I can only do the Uncle Roger voice, man. That's your only one? I can learn for certain bits if I need a specific accent.
Starting point is 01:47:04 I'll just YouTube something, and I'll say one sentence yeah it's nice people think you try you know so with uh and then with the youtube stuff we were talking about this a little before though because it does it takes over so much running these like operations where you can't it's very hard to like do the stand-up so what's your like what do you how did you like organize your fucking like week now where you go how do you like do it all
Starting point is 01:47:28 I don't man you kind of don't you stop doing stand up as much yeah I stop doing stand up as much and now when I'm touring I'm doing stand up more
Starting point is 01:47:36 so I scale down the videos a little bit just two a month and a podcast every week but then the Uncle Roger videos two a month they take a lot of work man
Starting point is 01:47:43 those videos I have to do the research the technical side of things then I have to video is two a month. They take a lot of work, man. Those videos, I have to do the research, food research, the technical side of things, then I have to write jokes with a comedian friend and then we write together, put them all together, then act in front of the camera and stuff. So yeah, something has to give, man.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Otherwise you just burn out. I've been having this problem a lot lately where I was just like, where it's like, there's never done, right? Where you go, it never ends. And I was like, that can't be like the way to do it. I was like, I have to scale back. And I've won the biggest ones.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I was like, okay, I'm not doing any more phone calls Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I go, any phone calls have to be done Monday through Tuesday. That was a big one that I decided on. Phone calls and meetings. Yeah. That's good. I think I need to stop doing cameos. You do cameos? Yeah. That's a waste think I need to stop doing cameos you do cameos
Starting point is 01:48:26 yeah it's a waste of time well maybe not for you you make so much money on it it's nice pocket money though you know for very little work yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:48:34 we were here we had Alex Steiner there's better ways for you to make money how much you just need to charge I'm not doing them not doing them
Starting point is 01:48:41 okay that's good I also like our fans are animals too like it would be 90% people like getting us to just say horrendous also but like also to me that that is just a time management thing as well where i'm like i know for a fact i can't like wake up and you go you have 40 48 hours to go like make these three cameos i know that'll drive me mental what do you mean as in like oh you have 48 hours left to make these or however long you get to do it no for the cameos
Starting point is 01:49:05 like waking up and being like this morning I know that I've been pitched this the cameo sends me an email once a fucking
Starting point is 01:49:12 they go dude it's so much money and you go okay even if it was X amount of dollars you go every morning you wake up and it's like
Starting point is 01:49:17 okay you have four cameos so it's like okay what if I want to write for a second I gotta keep on my mind okay before stand up I always gotta know
Starting point is 01:49:24 that I gotta find time To go into some room And make these cameos It would drive me nuts Well that's a You know A bit much To assume you're getting
Starting point is 01:49:32 Four a day You know A bit arrogant there You know Well I hope it's four a day Because one a day Would be worse One would be worse
Starting point is 01:49:41 Where it's like I gotta fucking Make sure that I go Find a quiet place Dude Alex Stein Literally came in the other night And he banged Like this guy Comedian he was on our podcast one would be worse where it's like I gotta fucking make sure that I go find a quiet place Alex Stein literally came in the other night and he banged
Starting point is 01:49:47 like this guy comedian he was on a podcast and he banged like we were having a conversation and mid conversation he goes
Starting point is 01:49:53 oh I gotta do a cameo and just like in the middle of our conversation just did a cameo how many of these guys do it I do two a week really that's it yeah
Starting point is 01:50:00 Uncle Roger's not not as much of a hot commodity as he thought you don't have to set the price high enough that people don't bug you for it, yeah. Uncle Roger's not as much of a hot commodity as he thought. You don't have to set the price high enough that people don't bug you for it. Oh, yeah, yeah. What are yours at right now? Tinder's at $350.
Starting point is 01:50:14 That's not that crazy high. Yeah, I need to up it more. I know what your numbers look like. Asians are cheap, man. Asians are cheap people. I've set up a Patreon before for my old podcast. Man, getting people to donate is fucking. I know you guys listen to it. But you do sponsorships.
Starting point is 01:50:29 That seems like the model. Yeah, that's better. That's better. But really, you go, so, but you're also cheap if you're like, hey, you're selling out arenas and you're like, let me, you know, do these cameos for 300 bucks. I just don't get it. I think it's just a habit thing. I've had it turn on since I blew up and I just never turned it off. I just don't get it. I think it's just a habit thing. I've had it turn on since I blew up,
Starting point is 01:50:46 and I just never turned it off. I'm just used to it now. It's charging more than the Tinder swindler. That's pretty good. How am I going to get the Tinder swindler to charge? No, the Tinder swindler wanted a G for fucking if it was promotional, and I think 250 for personal.
Starting point is 01:50:58 So yeah, maybe. Oh, I don't do promotional ones. Yeah, he's charging more than the swindler. You'd be supporting every restaurant going. Oh, no, no, no. I have to go through my agents for that shit. Oh, yeah, if you're listening, you want that. Uncle Roger.
Starting point is 01:51:09 You got an MSG brand that you want. Yeah. I'm trying to come up with my own MSG brand. Why not something else? Someone must have approached you. You know Mr. Beast has his own Beast Burger restaurants? Yeah, yeah. You must be almost in that realm where they go,
Starting point is 01:51:24 Am I? I don't know. You must be close enough where someone goes, we're going to slap your face on something. We're taking this guy restaurants. Yeah, yeah. You must be like almost in that realm where they go, Am I? I don't know. You must be close enough where someone goes, we're going to slap your face on something. We're taking this guy to the top, man. We're his new PR agent. Yes, please. Maybe like a Panda Express something.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Maybe. One day, one day. Let me focus on my stand-up, man. It's the Rob Dyrdek formula, dude. That guy, Rob Dyrdek, he basically had these like wild deals where it was like just every was just every skateboard they sell, he just gets $5 from it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:47 And then it just popped where they just sold millions of those boards or whatever it was. And you're not even involved in it. Yeah, I have something like that in the works. Yeah, he does. He just doesn't want to say. Yeah, what? MSG? No, it's some kind of food thing.
Starting point is 01:52:02 It's not finalized yet. We can't really. I would just say it's some kind of food thing. It's finalized yeah we can't really I would just say it's some kind of food thing it's basically a thing for uncles that if you got caught touching someone they relocate you
Starting point is 01:52:11 they come in no one be the best this is what's going to happen to him is you're going to do something with the CCP what's going to
Starting point is 01:52:17 happen to him is we're going to watch him lose this thing in real time as Ryan says this no he's going to he's going to say the wrong thing
Starting point is 01:52:23 about the CCP and the next video is just going to be a different Asian guy being Uncle Roger. Something about Uncle Roger seems different. Why is his polo red now? Instead of orange.
Starting point is 01:52:39 Yeah, and they don't say anything. Go Gallagher. You know how he... So you know how he sold his act, he licensed his act to his brother and there was Gallagher too? You should have just different Rogers, different polos just...
Starting point is 01:52:54 And so you... Send them out into the world. You scale. And then everywhere you have like... You can have... Put together some shitty Nanette fucking fringe show where you're going out of the thing being like you know I'm the victim
Starting point is 01:53:06 of the CCP yeah have a big a big victim you know complex where you're sitting down and you go and that's what my mom
Starting point is 01:53:14 told me I'd never be a comedian and you know just pause for a little bit stuff where they don't even need to be funny and they do them in every different language
Starting point is 01:53:20 like you have a Vietnamese Roger and people are so racist that he's got like a fat Asian guy I don't even know this thing. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:53:29 you guys need to be my business managers, man. These are great ideas. Yeah, so you got these guys. These are free, man. We're going to get
Starting point is 01:53:35 these guys name on fucking Mandarin oranges. Just everything. CCP merch, no, but both sides. In Asia, I already do that
Starting point is 01:53:43 because they just take my likeness and whack it on their product. Oh, they already do that Because they just take my likeness And whack it on their product Oh they just steal it They just take it Oh they don't even ask It's as bad as they say it is Over there
Starting point is 01:53:50 Where it's just like Everyone steals everything Yeah It's fair game How many channels Have like just uploaded your videos And made the money on them A lot
Starting point is 01:53:59 But there's this I'm one of them There's this company I work with Who just They kind of Find these duplicate videos and they monetize the videos for you
Starting point is 01:54:08 oh they'll go do copyright claims yeah yeah so they still monetize the money money comes to me but you know
Starting point is 01:54:14 that's like $500 a month it's not that much yeah I never I always get people messaging me being like you know
Starting point is 01:54:22 we could do this blah blah but I don't you probably have it where people just steal your actual content but I feel like if someone like clips the podcast always get people messaging me being like you know we could do this blah blah but i don't you probably have it where people just steal your actual content but i feel like if someone like clips the podcast and talks about it or whatever i'm not gonna like claim the money off it seems like unethical yeah no if i mean if they upload the whole thing in whole that's a big very different or someone that's like taking your like patreon content and putting it up like those are different
Starting point is 01:54:40 things but someone that's yeah yeah like don't get the many ideas right now yeah no you're saying they'll just take it maybe like punch in you know one percent so it's like or zero different just so it's like not the exact or whatever and then just upload well that's a tiktok their whole business model is that right like there's no but i mean there's no money to be made on that but yeah you get 10 million views and get three bucks yeah you know what about uh what about louis c. winning the Grammy? Do you like Louis? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Who doesn't like Louis? What comic doesn't like Louis? You know what I was thinking? There's a few. Because I was thinking about this. I probably get some hate. Oh, well, it's been gold. Is relation number three coming?
Starting point is 01:55:19 Oh, boo. I'm so scared. I was, yeah, after you've had the CCP after you Which I guess you didn't actually technically You're about to get cancelled by Jen Kirkman Oops Yeah but to me it was so funny that It was like
Starting point is 01:55:36 A lot of people recently were like Over the last three days or whatever Were like posting a lot more about the Louis thing You know even more than when it first happened Being like you know He shouldn't be winning like best days or whatever, we're like posting a lot more about the Louis thing, you know, even more than when it first happened being like, you know, he shouldn't be winning like best album or whatever. Right. And it was just like,
Starting point is 01:55:50 I got last night when I was sleeping, I was thinking about, it's, it's interesting that it kind of shows how a lot of people think of comedy. Cause they're like, he shouldn't have won this. He shouldn't have had the best album, but it was,
Starting point is 01:56:01 that's how they think of comedy where you go, well, was it the best album or not? Yeah. It's like, imagine someone like if you're doing think of comedy where you go, well, was it the best album or not? Yeah. It's like, imagine someone like, if you're doing like a race and you go, hey, this person was the fastest and they go, hey, you shouldn't say that. And you go, well, were they? You could say it was the best one and I didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:56:16 And I don't think we should give them an award. But to say that it wasn't the best one. I mean, first off, for something like artistic, there is no true. It's not a race. It's nobody had the best time. Like it's somewhat close. It's still subjective. Well, no, there is no true. It's not a race. Nobody had the best time. It's somewhat close. It's still subjective. Well, no, that's not really.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Yeah, but that's not. Ryan's point is, yeah, it's subjective, but they judge it on the merit of the art itself. Of course. Of course. But yeah, all those people. I mean, the worst thing is with the Oscars where they said in 2025, you have to check all these boxes to be eligible to even be nominated in these categories, right? You have to all these like race, disability,
Starting point is 01:56:48 and you go, okay, so then there's no such thing as the best movie. Either you were wrong about all these other ones or just it's all nonsense. Wow, is that real? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. For 2025 at the Oscars,
Starting point is 01:56:58 you have to have all these, and if you don't meet the certain like diversity, like diversity and like all these things. You had to have been to Epstein's Island. If you don't meet them, you just can't be nominated. Wow. Yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:57:14 In the UK, a lot of people complain about the same thing, like diversity checkboxes. And we have a big TV show, Life at the Apollo, the stand-up show. And I haven't been on it, so I'm neutral on this. But because of all this like check boxes and stuff and diversity thing
Starting point is 01:57:27 like when I see a white guy on there I know it's gonna be good yeah of course yeah of course fought against all odds I'm like holy shit you are two out of the
Starting point is 01:57:36 30 people yeah I know you're good yeah even though they're probably like 50% of all the comedians yeah I know but it's kind of had
Starting point is 01:57:44 the opposite effect. All this quote, I think, now I see a white guy, I'm like, hey, I'm watching him. You know? Because I know that he's going to crush it. You had to fight the power to get through. Unless they're old. If they're old, you know that they could have been grandfathered in from the old days. Like if you're watching a thing and it's a TV show and the one white guy is like 55,
Starting point is 01:58:04 you go, oh, he's been in the system they can't get rid of that guy and it's also tricky for me too and when because on the flip side if I think like this I'm sure a lot of people think like this as well right so when I get put on British panel shows there I don't want people to think I'm there because I check
Starting point is 01:58:20 a box you know our friend Andre yeah you're there because you're yeah that is funny someone being like even if even if uh even if they saw the other one where it's like hey oh this guy's just here because he checks a box he's like no i'm here because i'm 10 times more popular than anyone on this panel for starters and i'm a good comic but if you were gonna say something bad about me it's because i'm that yeah like if you're gonna think i don't belong here that would be the reason our friend our friend is an as comic, and I was talking to him. He had just done a Just for Laughs thing.
Starting point is 01:58:47 And he honestly said the exact same thing, where he's like, I don't know. They devalue it. Well, no, but he straight up says, he's like, I don't know if, like, I feel like part of the reason why I was here is just because I'm Asian. Like, you know, he's kind of like, he's like, he kind of felt, like, bad of it. He goes, yeah. I mean, you take what you can get. I mean, it is what it is. Obviously. Yeah, like, it's never the, obviously a person, if you're joining anything, it's like he kind of felt like bad of it he goes yeah i mean you take what you can get i mean of course obviously yeah like it's never the obviously a person if you're joining anything it's like yes do like and the corollary to that is that you know 30 years ago like the reason for this
Starting point is 01:59:14 whole like over correction or whatever is because 30 years ago there were just a bunch of crappy white guys who were there just like and they were yes but i've always it's even the same thing the other way right now and we've talked about this but it's like when they're like oh we need more black guys right it's like
Starting point is 01:59:28 what they mean is a very specific type of black guy it's never there's this huge amount of like you know hood this whole huge
Starting point is 01:59:35 hood comic scene like T.I. is a very popular comic I don't know if you're familiar with him he used to be a rapper but yeah so that's who they put on
Starting point is 01:59:43 but do you I don't know if you guys know that but T.I. is a do you I don't know if you guys know but T.I. is a comedian now I didn't know that I saw I saw the video of him at the thing
Starting point is 01:59:50 I didn't know that was because I thought he was in the audience so T.I. the rapper is a comedian now and is he good is he good no
Starting point is 01:59:56 obviously not you knew the answer I don't know he could be secretly grafting you know trying on material between songs that's true but to me well he had a big... Trying on material between songs. That's true.
Starting point is 02:00:09 But to me, well, he had a big problem with Godfrey because apparently he dropped on the show and didn't hour. I don't know. There was some whole controversy that a lot of people have talked about already with Godfrey. But the... So now he has another one where he was basically on stage and then some girl who was hosting the show goes, oh, T.I., give it up for him. He's got two sex assault allegations with his wife or whatever.
Starting point is 02:00:32 And then T.I. comes up. He goes, nobody ever fucking dis. You know, some version of that. I saw that. Yeah, I saw that video. I thought he was in the audience. But then I was like, it was like a bar. He just did a set.
Starting point is 02:00:44 Yeah. But it's like a. Yeah, it's like a bar gig He just did his set Yeah but it was like Yeah it was like a legit Like bar gig in Atlanta He's bopping around Like popping into like Bar gigs in Atlanta and shit Wow you gotta have a
Starting point is 02:00:51 I mean if you have Like any sexual assault cases You better have jokes for those You know You know people are gonna Bring it up Like Jimmy Carr probably has Like deflection jokes
Starting point is 02:01:00 About his tax evasion scandal Yeah I have jokes about My CCP cancellation Oh I just got John Cena You know about his tax evasion scandal. Yeah. I have jokes about my CCP cancellation. Oh, I just got John Cena'd, you know. You gotta have jokes about that. I don't think, yeah, if I was like currently being accused
Starting point is 02:01:13 of like double rape, yeah, that's like a tough one to bring up. But you know what? But he would be like, it's actually a single rape, say two times. Yeah. So I mean, whatever.
Starting point is 02:01:24 She was, you know, and I knew, I'm sure that my point isn't like pro this chick. he would be like it's actually a single rave same two times yeah so i mean whatever she was you know and i knew i'm sure that my point isn't like pro this chick like she was like the cameras are rolling i'm gonna get this like you know viral moment of me calling ti out for some shit right yeah but regardless of all that like this guy has not been doing comedy in long enough to like handle this you know what what I mean? Dude, he's, he's on stage and he's just like, he, he,
Starting point is 02:01:49 at one point he gives the girl a hug and he, you know, he's saying shit in her ear. Cause he's like, you know that I can't fight you, but he's, he's whispering in her ear, some version of like, yo,
Starting point is 02:01:56 you better fucking knock this off. Yeah. And then he sits on the stage. And then he sits on the stage. It's, but the whole thing is a bizarre. It makes more sense. Like to me,
Starting point is 02:02:04 I, cause I saw you, like I said, like, yeah, if he was there, but you're like, he was on the stage. The whole thing is a bazaar. It makes more sense to me, because I saw you, like I said, yeah, if he was there, but he was on the show and he's doing that? Right. He is not going to get asked back to that show. No. No. I just don't think that, and I feel like, I guess, if T.I. is a comic now, I don't like to trash comics too much,
Starting point is 02:02:21 but he does just strike me as not a funny guy. trash comics too much, but he does just strike me as like not a funny guy. Like, did you have the whole thing where he's, he had his daughter's hymen checked by her,
Starting point is 02:02:30 the doctor? Wasn't that, wasn't that a big thing with him where he goes, he goes every year, I have my like doctor check my daughter's hymen to make sure it hasn't
Starting point is 02:02:38 been broken. Something like that. That might've been him. Yeah. So it was a weird dude. As rings a bell, might be him. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:44 Someone that was funny would not be able to say that without like, it was funny weird dude as rings a bell might be him yeah someone that was funny would not be able to say that without like kind of going it was funny you know when you be checking those hammonds he just doesn't
Starting point is 02:02:50 certain people just have like funniness in their like bones or something and he just really feels like he's I feel like he's not a naturally funny person
Starting point is 02:02:58 and I feel like on top of that he takes himself very seriously which is maybe the two like worst combination and then on top of that, to be famous trying to start comedy, it's like the worst combination.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Maybe wait till those rape charges have been cleared up too. Just so you can be like, allegedly. Well, apparently they are cleared up. That's what he did say. Oh, they are. Well then, that's unfair.
Starting point is 02:03:21 He's saying, he goes, I've never been charged. I ain't going gonna be charged because that is false whatever right yeah wow i didn't know well then i'm on his side though yeah she did him wrong i need to check out this clip yeah but he uh like yeah it's a weird one where you go i don't think anyone's really the good guy here no it's just like a weird event but like my point is i don't think they were going to be talking about this in three years being like fuck that ti guy fucking that new special do you see that new ti special
Starting point is 02:03:52 body damn i wish i wrote that that's all i'll tell you that right there is a oh damn i wish i wrote that well the diversity part that was one of my other sketches is i wanted to do a thing because i feel like what used to drive my friends in toronto like would bother them and i used to be i used to see this is because it's like it's not just that you know it's annoying for white people it's that it also is like this narrative where let's just say you're like some indian dude and you go you're like kind of popping and you're really funny and they bring you up and you're just like yeah i just want to do a show about like me and my friends open a bar and they're like yeah but and your indian parents wouldn't let you like yeah they want you to fill this like like you if you just if you were pitching shows i bet you if you had your show was some version of like uh you know, we, well, we like started a, you know, we work at a
Starting point is 02:04:48 bank, you know what I mean? To be like, but like the Asian, like. In an Asian bank? Yeah, an Asian bank. Right? I don't know. Am I? No, no, that definitely is a lot of that.
Starting point is 02:04:57 Yeah, of course. And it's a lot of people who are just trying to save their jobs because they're, you know, it's some person who's just like, yeah, I've been in development forever and then now i'm getting in trouble for all the stuff i used to do like approve so then now they're like okay we got to really like change it up now yeah you definitely have to fit a certain mole of minority too you know in in the uk i can think of like they like the very middle class educated like that's the minority that's a favorite type. Yeah, yeah. And then, again... A little snarky. A little snarky.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Not too funny. Not too funny. I don't want it too funny because it's unbecoming to laugh so much. Yeah. They like it from the highest Indian cast. Yeah. What's the highest one?
Starting point is 02:05:43 The Brahmin people? Yeah, I think... No. Is the Brahmins high or low? I think high, high. Yeah. The highest Indian cast Yeah What's the highest one The Brahmin people Yeah it is I think No Is the Brahmins high or low I think high Yeah You're right
Starting point is 02:05:50 I think it was No you're right That's what it was The Brahmins He's a Patel A measly Patel They want the Brahmin comedy You know
Starting point is 02:06:00 They don't want anyone Lower than that You're right It is kind of that With my shit Where I just shit on people, that's not what they're looking for. That's gutter.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Yeah. But you probably do. You're like, what are you, some sort of immigrant? But you do more numbers than probably a show that's on TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's very... I don't mind at all. You're lost.
Starting point is 02:06:18 That's very Patel of you to think that numbers matter. And it's freed up this whole online anything that's funny gets shared you know so it's you know
Starting point is 02:06:30 TV can keep doing their like quaint little TV thing you know that's funny I just keep oh your cute little TV thing plus another thing
Starting point is 02:06:38 if you put an Asian character on TV you know like white people are gonna fuck it up they're gonna fuck with it and they're gonna tell me what to say and if you work with like white people are gonna fuck it up they're gonna fuck with it and they're just gonna
Starting point is 02:06:45 tell me what to say and if you work with like white producers oh that would fucking stink and then one reason I do this Uncle Roger character
Starting point is 02:06:53 I have all this control over you know my own jokes my own culture my own people but then when they start to mold it what pain does
Starting point is 02:07:01 Uncle Roger feel is there any racist incidences towards Uncle Roger? Do you want to explore that? Do you want to explore what Uncle Roger's drama is? Yeah. Why did he become like this? Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 02:07:16 Has he been caught off a COVID hate crime? Has Uncle Roger dealt with COVID hate? I was punched in London, man. I talk about it on my set. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have hate crime over there too. Yeah, yeah. But only you guys get the bad rap.
Starting point is 02:07:29 Oh, it's black guys here. What? Black guys doing the Asian punching. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was punched And it's us doing the black guy. No. I don't have the balls for that.
Starting point is 02:07:40 Yeah, but it's material now. Why did you get punched? Nobody can prove intention right? But we think it's We all think it's COVID Dropped a few N-bombs After a couple of sockies Was it a rival
Starting point is 02:07:52 MSG manufacturer? Your MSG sucks dude The Jamie Oliver fan maybe Yeah See there's a message From the CCP Is what it sounds like to me Oh
Starting point is 02:08:02 They're hiring black people To punch Asians now That sounds like a message From the CCP is what it sounds like to me. Oh, they're hiring black people to punch Asians now. That sounds like a message from the CCP if I've ever heard one. Yeah, true. But you think it was after COVID happened?
Starting point is 02:08:12 Sorry? It was after COVID? It's the height of COVID. I think it was November 2020. Oh, okay. And you were just walking? Yeah, I was walking, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:20 And someone just came and punched you? Yeah, just hopped off a bike and punched me. Like a gang initiation type of thing, you think? I don't know, man. I mean, are you in a gang now? I would like to be.
Starting point is 02:08:29 No, he doesn't get initiated. They got a punch to be initiated. Oh, I thought they were initiating him to go, hey, you're in this gang. No, apparently. I didn't want to be in a gang. Like apparently a lot of that stuff where you just see someone like knock someone out out of the cold. It's kind of like a gang initiation thing.
Starting point is 02:08:40 That's the face slashing. At least that's what happened in one of the cop shows that I watched. People get their face slashed here a lot in New York. Really? Yeah, they just cut you with your face. Peaky blinders. Peaky blinder style kind of. Gang initiation.
Starting point is 02:08:52 Kevin Brandon, our friend, said that's what it was. He got his face slashed. And there's two comics in the city who had their face slashed. It's wild. It's crazy. Wow, okay. I don't want any of that. Yeah, take the cabs over. Yeah, I do that. I do that. slushed it's wild it's crazy wow okay yeah i don't want any of that yeah take it over yeah
Starting point is 02:09:05 take the cabs over yeah i do that i do that i heard too too much news of uh asians getting pushed in front of trains and stuff i know you know i mean not just because they're the smallest that's not like they would yeah they know it's all women though and it's all it's all they would rather push a big black guy it's just like like logistically. It's like you're like, oh, why do you want to push them? And you go, want to? Yeah. I have to. It's the easiest.
Starting point is 02:09:31 I mean, there's no children out at three in the morning. I'd love to push that Viking over there onto the subway, but it just ain't happening, pal. What was the funniest things where people tried to like change, like when you're having those meetings and people try to fuck with the Mr. Rogers thing and get involved? Have you had any wild ones
Starting point is 02:09:49 where you were going to maybe do something with them and the advice you got from the industry was just so crazy? What did I get? I just mainly don't get the meeting, really. But when people, sometimes we, comedians there, they do the fringe or they do the hour, they work with directors. But when people Sometimes we Comedians there
Starting point is 02:10:06 Do the fringe Or do the hour They work with directors You know And it's just Again The lamest fucking thing As a comic
Starting point is 02:10:13 You're like This is so lame But we had a buddy Who did a Like a big fringe show And our other buddy Directed it And it like
Starting point is 02:10:20 Did really really well Right But it was definitely A one man show And it was a one man show Who is this I probably know him a one-man show. And it was a one-man show. Who is this? I probably know him. Did it at the Fringe?
Starting point is 02:10:27 No, this isn't true. No, it's true. Are you going to name him? I just don't know if what I'm saying is positive. Oh, okay. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, okay. Don't name it then.
Starting point is 02:10:35 Don't name it. Yeah. You said it did really well. So I thought it was going to be a nice part. Well, my point was more that like, so I get the director sort of helped at the beginning. And then when after I've been going for a year and a half, I'm like, what the fuck is the director doing?
Starting point is 02:10:53 Totally, I know. What are you doing now? Are you still directing? He goes, hey, the music just started. Anyways, I'll see you afterwards. What the fuck is he doing now? Like, I get at the the beginning You're kind of like Yeah you direct
Starting point is 02:11:05 You give direction During the rehearsal Yeah you're like Hey you're standing there Like what have you Stood there Yeah Yeah actually
Starting point is 02:11:12 He needs to be bigger But like If you work with people Like that They just tell you Oh you need to be more Like raw and honest And authentic
Starting point is 02:11:19 And if you You're like I'm doing A character Yeah if you see An Edinburgh show Description with the word explore and identity and raw unflinching
Starting point is 02:11:30 the word unflinching I don't want to see it I don't want to see it there are shows there I watch the show I'm like oh I see like 4 star 5 stars whatever I see the show I'm like oh boy they never took into account how little laughs they get.
Starting point is 02:11:45 This is really boring, man. Unflinching honesty. Yeah, unflinching raw look at being, I don't know. Being a pansexual, you know,
Starting point is 02:11:56 transvestite, four-year-old. So you get a lot of that and I think some of that is coming over here. The one-man show type shows are coming over here The one man show type shows Are coming over here Yeah
Starting point is 02:12:06 Four year old trans the musical How about this Okay this is my pitch for you It's a show about a four year old Transitioning into a girl Okay And then And then he's like
Starting point is 02:12:17 You know And the big song comes out And it's like Chop the cock You gotta chop And then you come out In like sort of a butcher's outfit And you have like big machetes And then you come out in like sort of a butcher's outfit and you have like big
Starting point is 02:12:25 machetes and then you're chinese cleaver please you sort of do a choppy thing and then and the lights go dim and then it comes back on he goes i'm a girl now yeah yeah i'm just a girl in the city and it's four right and then you go back into uncle roger and then you're like going to a Yeah, yeah. B, I'm just a girl in the city. And it's four, right? And then you go back into Uncle Roger, and then you're going to a pedophile thing where you're just like, hey, little girl. Uncle Roger wants something to say to you.
Starting point is 02:12:57 Because it's different being a girl. And then they transition back. Yeah, they de-transition, and that's when the show gets canceled. Yes. They de-transition, but then you have to come back with like, sort of like a top tier, like Asian super glue to sort of put the... Am I hot or cold? I think that's legs.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Can we clip this and send it to your agent? It does have legs, but it doesn't have a dick. Can you pitch it to BBC for us? Hey, pitch to BBC. Are you doing stuff with agent? It does have legs, but it doesn't have a dick. Can you pitch it to BBC for us? Hey, pitch it to BBC. Are you doing stuff with BBC? Because we have CBC in Canada. I've done a couple things, you know, but it's kind of pointless. It's so geographically locked, you know.
Starting point is 02:13:35 You can watch it online later, but then if you're outside the UK, you can't really watch it unless it's a VPN. Oh, that's true. It's China all over again, you know. It really is, though. It's like government propaganda all over again. It really is though. It's like government propaganda all over again. We're protecting our people. We don't want you to watch it. We also came
Starting point is 02:13:50 from a communist country, Canada. We're all the same. Our heritage is a communist country called Canada. I don't know if you've heard about dictator Justin Trudeau. They pay tax dollars to filter in legitimate probably more propaganda than the most aggressive they pay tax dollars to filter in like legitimate, like more,
Starting point is 02:14:06 probably more propaganda than the most aggressive, you know, politicized TV network here. Oh, absolutely. Which I always say, I don't, I do believe if you want to start a network,
Starting point is 02:14:17 you should be able to do whatever you want, but I shouldn't have to pay for it. That's the crazy part. The government's doing it. And we say it's for the, they say it's as like a cultural, they say we're trying to protect our- But they hate Canadian culture.
Starting point is 02:14:30 Yeah. Yeah. Well, the sad thing is when Western countries do that, they don't see it as propaganda. But when Asian countries do that kind of thing,
Starting point is 02:14:39 like state-funded TV, oh, it just is labeled. We just get labeled, oh, it's propaganda. Be careful. Well, now they like Russia. Now they think it's with Russia
Starting point is 02:14:45 but you're right Western yeah well yeah it's such a double standard the biggest
Starting point is 02:14:51 hypocrite fucking West yeah and also I realized like China is such a
Starting point is 02:14:58 hot button topic on the internet man it is right now yeah especially it's you get so
Starting point is 02:15:04 many bots and haters coming at you calling you like they call it a 50 cent army because apparently in china they will hire people for 50 cents and reply to anti-china comments saying how good come on oh yeah so it's not bots it's like actual it could yeah yeah it could be it could be like it could be people they were saying for the cambridge analytica stuff with all the election that like it was actually these centers in russia that were just full of actual people who were just yeah like just well i always find it funny when they try to show the whenever something happens and then there's like they take the tweets of hey here's 25 accounts saying the exact same wording right but that's my youtube comments really ccp pig bootlicker really Really? Yeah. All the same comments.
Starting point is 02:15:45 Different accounts saying the same exact comments. And who does that come from? Random people. They never have their profile photos and their avatar. It's always a picture
Starting point is 02:15:52 of an anime character or something. Do you ever respond? No. You're actually a bootlicker. I don't unfortunately but I should. I should.
Starting point is 02:16:02 Let's see what they come back with. Would you ever do Uncle Roger's roast To CCP Do you have the guts That's the real question Does he have the guts No you should do
Starting point is 02:16:10 Just to really fuck with him Is do a thing Where you Uncle Roger Just watches Winnie the Pooh And you just love it There's no even joke You just watch Winnie the Pooh
Starting point is 02:16:18 And you go This is the best Oh just to Drive them nuts Yeah they call she Winnie the Pooh Yeah they Winnie the Pooh is bad In China Because the president Some people make fun of him Saying the they call Xi Winnie the Pooh yeah they yeah Winnie the Pooh is bad in China
Starting point is 02:16:25 because the president some people make fun of him saying the president looks like Winnie the Pooh oh I guess it would be the opposite then you'd have to hate Winnie the Pooh
Starting point is 02:16:32 for the bootlicker I think it's too complicated they're not that smart people so he likes the trans idea better yeah the trans boy the trans and they bring out
Starting point is 02:16:42 the butcher knife the butcher knife is off Broadway it is crazy to think though that there is just you know some you know i guess it would what be like a like is it almost like a sweatshop and they just all have like crappy lap like ibm like laptops from 2001 and then they're just like non-stop reposting you know the propaganda yeah i guess right it's employment opportunity i want to talk to someone who's worked at one of those though where they go yeah i used to work at one of those places like how is there not like a whistleblower because they disappear yeah
Starting point is 02:17:15 because yeah all right did you blow that whistle and you alert they could make jack ma disappeared for a month yeah So what happened with Jack Ma? What happened when they made him disappear? They always come back- Because he came back and he goes, no, I was just on vacation. On that vacation, I realized China fucking rules. He goes, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:17:36 I'm better now. They come back a lot less, what do you call it? Mouthy. Yeah, a lot less mouthy, wearing a sweater. Yeah, he was a little disheveled. Yeah. Where do you think he actually goes when that happens?
Starting point is 02:17:49 I just think they, I don't know. I probably have people stationed outside his house. Yeah, yeah. That kind of thing. So he's not anywhere. No, they're not taking him
Starting point is 02:17:57 like the edge. He's missing, but he wasn't missing. They just surrounded him, you think? Yeah. And they probably kind of scared some...
Starting point is 02:18:04 I'm picturing them bringing him to an island more. Scared some sense into into him don't you think you need a little bit of that in your country too people like imagine people always complain like billionaires have too much money inequality so if some billionaire mouths off too much make them disappear for a month or they can't tweet no because the government is so in bed with these billionaires that like to me that's worse i to me the china system well the re with these billionaires that to me that's worse. Rather than a China system. Well, the renegade billionaires I'm like, I like.
Starting point is 02:18:30 Okay. Like, yeah, I don't like the billionaires that necessarily are like completely in bed with like the fucking deep state to like undermine society. You know what I mean? Whereas like the renegade like billionaires that can't be controlled, those are the ones that I would not want them to have bad things happen to. Yeah, those are the ones that they're most worried about in China, right? Yeah, it would be the wrong picks. So yeah, you go, maybe there's some billionaires that could use a little talking to. Like Bill Gates.
Starting point is 02:18:57 If the family has something to say to you, but it'd be the wrong billionaires. Yeah, it wouldn't be Bill Gates getting to talking to. It would be... Who's a renegade billionaire, you think? I guess most ones, Elon Musk, probably. Who knows the extent to which he's actually a renegade? I think he probably is. I believe it.
Starting point is 02:19:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, think... So he's the guy that would be getting taken to the island, and he came back, he goes, buying Twitter's a bad idea. Yeah. I think, right? Those fossil fuels are sick.
Starting point is 02:19:20 Yeah. Fracking. Yeah, let's get all that oil out. I don't... I think so right So that's why I guess all it takes is A few billionaires to go missing
Starting point is 02:19:31 For the rest of them to get in line So then you have every billionaire Instead of right now To some degree you have The free market and certain You know the Peter Thiel's of the world He wants a smaller government He's not for let's expand this government But all it takes know, the Peter Thiel's of the world. You know what? He wants a smaller government. He's not for let's expand this government.
Starting point is 02:19:47 But all it takes is a few Peter Thiel's to go missing where every probably billionaire. That's what happens in Russia, kind of. Yeah. Every billionaire. Some of the oligarchs before this stuff, they would kind of. Well, they sort of shut up and have fun on their boats now. Step out of line.
Starting point is 02:19:58 I think if that was me, if I was like a billionaire that was doing all this stuff and I'm going to change the world, then they start, you know, kill off three of my friends. I go, hey, maybe it's time for a cruise on my yacht. International waters. I guess that's the other thing. What would it be really like?
Starting point is 02:20:13 Why doesn't if I was Jack Ma, to me, the move would be like, get out, never come back. However, I guess the problem is all his money in his company. You can't get it out. Yeah, exactly. Like it's all intertwined with the government. So you're screwed. Damned if you do, damned if you can't get it out. Yeah, exactly. It's all intertwined with the government. So you're screwed. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Starting point is 02:20:27 What if he, because you can't sell your business, put it in diamonds, shove them up your ass and get to America, I guess. No, I don't know. Taking money out of China is the most difficult thing.
Starting point is 02:20:35 Yeah, it's super difficult. I make some AdSense revenue from my Chinese social media platforms. You can't get them, you have trouble getting them out? It's like layers upon layers of bureaucracy. In the end,
Starting point is 02:20:44 I just had to have someone I work with who has a China bank account. And then we just decided, okay, let's just offset that against your retainer. So I can't physically even get the money. It's a lot of paperwork. So when you go to do tours there... A thousand dollars, you know,
Starting point is 02:21:00 compared to Jack Ma's fortune. Oh, for sure. And yeah yeah the government they ban crypto there too right so you can't even be like just send me bitcoin like they can't even
Starting point is 02:21:10 oh yeah I forgot about that so yeah so when I tour there I don't know I'll do it for free for my people I'll do it for free
Starting point is 02:21:16 I think China's been shat on by the west for too long so I'm here to I'm here to perform for you guys for free I guess to some degree
Starting point is 02:21:24 you can't just get your money out here without the government at least taking like a pretty big share like anything you get you can't just like cash in your stuff without paying like
Starting point is 02:21:31 crazy taxes and stuff like that but it's not yeah but you can do it but it's almost like being in one of those countries is like playing at a casino that the money's only good
Starting point is 02:21:42 in the casino that you win it's Disney dollars Disney dollars dollars or you go yeah you're the king of fucking disney but if you we can put you on a time out and if you try to go spend these disney dollars at that uh whale world or whatever that's what we call his mom's house all right well okay we're gonna wrap up uh in a second here but thanks for coming on but anything else fucking
Starting point is 02:22:06 anything else on your mind that we wanna talk about anybody else you wanna shit on we wanna hear it yeah who do we hate no I think I'm good I think we shut on everything
Starting point is 02:22:18 well I thought it was I think the Grammy for Louis C.K. you know I see why people are upset but you know no he doesn't at least they didn't give it to Dave Chappelle. That would have caused even more uproar,
Starting point is 02:22:27 wouldn't it? I don't know. Well, how about this? That's a good question. I say we put Louis C.K. as chef number two in the Butcher musical. Does he still live here? Is he still bass here?
Starting point is 02:22:43 Is he back in Europe all the time now right yeah he's here now his girlfriend lives in Paris he's back and forth he tours like crazy a lot of our friends tour with him
Starting point is 02:22:51 yeah I know a few people that was one of the ones that was just like how much fake bullshit there is in the news where when the Ukraine thing happening
Starting point is 02:22:59 he had a show there and all these people were like oh Louis CK still doing his show in like the Ukraine and our friend still doing his show and like the ukraine and our friend was like on tour being like no that uh not happening and nor was it ever like it was the minute this happened it was like yeah obviously shows like it was just there's no even point
Starting point is 02:23:16 where we thought maybe the whole thing was just one big lie well it's because the ticket well yeah the ticketing site that was selling the tickets just was like still selling tickets hadn't taken them down yet in't taken them down yet. Yeah, hadn't taken them down yet. So people were like, I guess. Yeah, but everyone was kind of like, no, that didn't happen. But I mean, listen, if you were planning on going to Louis C.K. tonight and fucking, they're like, hey, there's like a war that just started.
Starting point is 02:23:36 A bomb. And you're like, oh, you go, maybe. I doubt you're going to still try to buy the tickets. If anything, you try to sell the tickets. You go, worse comes to worse. It does happen. We don't want to go and we get screwed. Hey, it's a Grammy winning show. So some people were braving it at the time. the tickets if anything you try to sell the tickets you go worse comes to worse it does happen we don't want to go and we get screwed
Starting point is 02:23:45 hey it's a Grammy Grammy winning show so Grammy nominated at the time oh yes okay but yeah now Grammy winning
Starting point is 02:23:53 well it was cool hang in dude I'm going to try to come to one of your shows yeah if you want can I plug my shows here of course oh dude I think
Starting point is 02:24:00 but this is going to come out after your shows unfortunately I go one more in October oh yeah yeah definitely yeah so this comes after
Starting point is 02:24:08 my first run of New York shows but I have another New York show coming up October 20th at New York Town Hall so buy tickets to that cool yeah definitely come through that
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