The Boyscast with Ryan Long - NO MASKS ON PLANES AND NIGEL NG (UNCLE ROGER)
Episode Date: April 22, 2022No masks on planes, Danny going viral, doxing journalists, mask insecurities and Nigel Ng! Nigel Ng is a Malaysian comedian & YouTuber most known for his Uncle Roger character. SUPPORT THE BOYSCAST: ...https://www.patreon.com/theboyscast http://ryanlongcomedy.com MERCH - ryanlongstore.com Ryan @ryanlongcomedy Danny @dannyjokes Nigel @mrnigelng SUPPORT THE SPONSORS AT: Getsunday.com/boyscast - 20% Off Your Custom Plan Athleticgreens.com/boyscast - Free 1 Year Of Vitamin D & 5 Free Fitbod.me/boyscast - 25% Off Your Subscription Or Free Trial LEAVE US A FIVE STAR REVIEW! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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And you can tell our friends, and they can have my things when we're dead
But we don't end forever, but we don't end forever
And the boys cast
I just want to start this episode, Ryan, with a big congratulations
To hell
To you
To me
Because your life just got so much easier
How?
Because you don't have to wear masks on the airplane.
Oh, boy.
It's going to be a big problem for some people.
Not for you.
No, I'm living.
And we're going to be on planes a lot because going to Tampa Bay and San Diego.
A bunch more dates been announced.
And congratulations to Mr. Viral.
Mr. Viral.
Yeah, I have HIV.
I have HIV.
Mr. Internet.
Yeah, Mr. Internet.
Did you call yourself that?
I've been looking at yourself and said you're finally become a man.
Yeah.
Mr. Millie.
You did it.
A Millie, a Millie, a Millie, a Millie, a Millie.
And hit a freestyle for the people.
They love the last.
A Millie, a Millie, a Millie, a Millie.
I got that Millie, the Billie. Yeah, the people have been loving the free i know my i know my
limitations um yeah people yeah you were very surprised at how much people don't understand
satire and they always think things are real yeah i mean it was actually it was really eye-opening
yeah but i've been saying that to you and on this podcast i know you've said it before it was more
before many times i'm just saying it was you and on this podcast. I know you've said it before. It was more than just many times.
I'm just saying it was the percentage, right?
Like it's one thing you put out a video,
you go 20% of people are like, what's this thing?
It was 95% of the comments were like, good, quit.
Of your Twitter videos, what we're talking about.
Yeah, of your Twitter videos.
You're like, good, quit.
You're fired.
Fucking libtard loser.
Get rid of him. Yeah, you look like you view. You're like, good, quit. You're fired. Fucking libtard loser. Good riddance.
Yeah, you look like you have Bell's palsy.
You fucking...
I told you, I did one on Amazon
saying that we should shut down Amazon
to support Neil Young and Against Joe Rogan.
Yeah, I remember that.
We should only support Amazon
and buy all our stuff at Amazon,
and I'm not even supporting local theaters.
Most downvoted video I've ever done, and all the the reasons was that it's like just so you know
amazon's fucking worse and i still have so this is i put this out over a week ago and i still have
the because you know there's still like the residual comments and there's still people
arguing about because there's all these fucking old boomers who are just like, their point is they go, look, the line between reality and satire is so blurry right now that they're kind of being like, look, you can't blame me for not knowing the difference.
Yeah, I can blame them for yours.
It's so hard to tell.
They go like, they were like, I really can't tell the difference.
And all these people are like, you're a fucking idiot.
Like, it's so easy to tell. My favorite one of all time was my friend's girlfriend who thought the onions video where
it said, uh, they're doing instead of stop and frisk, they have a new program where they're
doing stop and kiss.
And the cops, it goes, Hey, listen, if you're doing nothing wrong, the cops reserve the
right to pull you over, give you a little smooch on the lip.
And if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing worry about and it was a video right and she was like and she reposted
that on facebook back in the day being like this seems like a bit much you know i guess i'm not
going to new york you know we had a really poor showing overall especially even like twitter the
comments poor showing but on rumble because it got like 30 000 views on rumble yeah and like
i think maybe five people they say everyone knew i thought it was the real why would you put it on
rumble like if you were like if you're some uh disgruntled twitter employee because elon must
find the company why would you put that on rumble yeah like insane how many people on twitter do you
think of rumble account zero or whatever the best i'm on rumble by the insane how many people on twitter do you think i'm rumble account zero
or whatever the best i'm on rumble by the way right on comedy yeah check it out it's um but
anyways the best fucking reply i had this reply which was like nothing could beat this because
i opened with the pronouns or whatever which pissed a lot of people off and then this this
is this guy's comment he goes hey woke tard i identify listen to this he goes this is the
this is the best comment i have I don't know 5,000 comments
10,000 comments
number one
he goes
hey Woketard
I identify as a threat
my preferred pronouns
are try
slash me
oh and Tard
go out and get a real job
and contribute something
to society
there you go
amazing
I identify as a threat
I was like that
you're dead
that's funny a lot dead. That's funny.
A lot of the comments were like,
oh, you're a fat fucking loser.
You're gross. And then Danny was like, it's satire.
And they go, oh, what is that?
Yeah, we know.
Nice face, you piece of shit.
And then you go,
this isn't a real video.
He goes, I know.
I mean, the video was funny.
I thought the video was funny. I'm not commenting on the video.
No, I thought the video was funny.
Yeah, I thought the video was funny.
This guy's got five chins, this stupid fucking loser.
Right, virgin piece of fucking shit.
Buddy, I don't think you realize this is satire.
Oh, dude.
Huh?
Yeah, you're like one of my favorite comics.
Not a good showing for the boomer conservatives.
It was 19th and 20th.
It's always.
It's never anyone under 30 that fucking has those kind of
misinterpretations
there's no Biden fans who got tricked
well they're not watching it
but as far as
the Elon Musk thing goes we won't talk to him
I just thought Giannis Papas fucking
shout out because he had like a point that it was
a damn I wish I thought of that
and he goes the people who want less police in cities want more police on Papa's fucking shout out. Cause he had like a point that it was a damn. I wish I thought of that.
And he goes,
the people who want less police in cities want more police on Twitter.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
But yeah,
every good point.
Once it's said,
it seems obvious, but it was just like such a good articulation of that.
Yeah.
Shout out to the dog.
I watched this movie about a tech billionaire guy.
And it's just funny the way that Hollywood just portrays them in general.
But it was called Windfall, right?
Yeah. Where was it on?
I don't know. One of the services.
Amazon or Netflix is probably the main
Actually, I bought a bunch
of Netflix shares yesterday. Let me just see what they're at right now.
Okay.
Oh, shit. I bought some options.
I'm going to be passing the bucket after the uh definitely
donate to the patreon i have a bit of netflix shares too well i have a tech indexes yeah
but yeah like netflix uh yeah hbo max is that's the thing i don't even pay for like netflix is
they're starting to they're threatening right now where they're saying hey like we're gonna turn the
ship around by making all the freeloaders oh there you, there you go. That's what they said yesterday.
They go, we're going to turn this around because there's 100 million people sharing passwords.
And I'm just like, man, if you make...
First off, I'm not just going to pay for 20 different streaming things.
Okay.
And HBO Max, Amazon Prime, you get the deliveries plus the thing.
But then HBO Max blows Netflix out of the water.
Way better.
It's the best one.
It's not even close. it's not even close it's not even close like dude they're fucking if they think they're gonna threaten
people they'll like they're gonna be in for a rude well they'll say i think they really need
if they really want people to not you know to stop um canceling that if they want people to
not cancel the description they go listen if one more person cancels we won't make another season
to dear white people so i know because oh i know that what you think is oh that's fine i'll just uh i'll bootleg dear white people yeah but how
about this we'll stop making it so no dear white people for you period no hannah gadsby no hannah
gadsby we're not going to make any more gadsby we're not going to make dear whites people
the video the movie uh i don't know if i think it was a documentary but the the woman who's pregnant
yeah we're not oh i saw the japanese the guy they're sorry the woman who's pregnant yeah we're not the guy the Japanese the guy
they're sorry the man who's pregnant so I'll tell you you know who's having a nice chuckle
about all this is Dave Chappelle oh because I'm sure they were like hey Dave we could give you
20 million dollars an episode or a bunch of Netflix stock yeah and no one but up bye bye bye
yeah if you dig the Netflix stock you're getting. So that's what they need to say.
If I was in charge of Netflix right now, I'd say, listen, you have one week to stop canceling
our subscriptions or you're not going to get any more pregnant man shows.
You're not going to get any more Dear White people.
And we're not going to make any more Hannah Gatsby.
And I didn't even want to do this, but we're not going to give you the show of the girl
who did the Trump impression either.
Take my money, Netflix netflix yeah so it's
balls in your court at this point i bet if people we're not going to give you samantha b digital
content either we're all we're she's not even on the platform but we're actually going to be
we're going to be reaching out to samantha b and making her a cash offer to stop producing digital
content for her uh channels you think dick masterson's like fuck that settlement just went down by a lot his potential settlement because of the when they went and fought and
the protest and they got hit in the head yeah you think there's a i bet employees at netflix would
be uh getting a fucking lashing if they were actually at the office right now oh hell yeah
they would be well this movie i just want to give a a non-recommendation but it wasn't the
worst movie in the world
it was just
my only reason
I'm bringing it up
is because it's just
really funny
how they make the
it was a really
there's a guy robbing the place
and then it's a
tech billionaire's house
right and it's kind of
a calamity of errors
kind of like a quirky movie
right so it's almost
a little bit supposed
to be funny right
but they make the
tech billionaire so bad
and then the robber
is kind of bad
and then everyone dies except for the woman who's like the empowered hero and it's a real like shero's journey
you know what i mean because yeah and it turns out you know she she kind of was emerges as the
protagonist near the end but the the way that they've made the tech billionaire bad so he he's
at every conversation he goes anyone who doesn't have a billion dollars is just looking for a handout.
Oh, really?
He's basically the guy from the three comma guy from Silicon Valley.
Yeah.
It's like a guy that's trying to go viral on TikTok by saying the most inflammatory shit.
Anyone that's not a millionaire right now, it's because you're a lazy piece of shit.
He's saying that right now.
Yeah, he's like the Uber hustle guys.
He's a billionaire.
He goes, everything that I i had i worked uphill for and everyone else who doesn't have this that's
because they're lazy everyone's lazy but me and then uh guess what his company does uh something
evil he invented chops yeah it is the most evil thing you could come up with so he invented an
algorithm yeah that uh companies use to fire everyone
Nice
So basically
You sign up for his algorithm
And he goes
Fire Tom
Fire four people in marketing
It's like the job version of the Terminator
It's kind of what it is
But it's just funny
This guy just had no redeeming characteristics
You're just the biggest character
I imagine he was played by a person characteristics. He was just the biggest character. And it's also the type of guy...
I imagine he was played by a person of color.
He was played by the guy from Fargo,
kind of the chubby guy.
But he basically...
The chubby brown guy?
He was not played by a chunky brown guy.
Yeah, you're incorrect in your assumption there.
That's like the one role where they go,
Hey, we only want to see white people and we mean it.
Every other role they go, Hey, we're seeing everybody, but want to see white people and we mean it you know every other role they go
hey we're seeing everybody but you know no white people this is like white people only now you guys
are hey straight white man here's your fucking role here's your role what does he do he's a
fucking evil billionaire that invented a program to get everyone fired so yeah he's he's a pretty
chunky guy but they they do an amalgamation of all the different
bad characteristics because they sort of make him like a young hip tech ceo yeah but like none of
his uh personality traits are really like that they give him essentially like an oil tycoon
personality but they have him running a tech company right which is like nobody's really
like yeah they right exactly Like he has zero autism,
kind of like.
100, not at all.
Yeah, not at all.
He's like an evil oil billionaire.
So they just like amalgamated
all the worst characters
they could find in like popular culture.
Yeah.
And then they put him into a tech.
It really is a guy who's like,
doesn't know any tech people almost.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So we found probably one of the,
every once in a while, you get a gem from the internet
and there's this girl named Haran
Greensmith
and she's been tweeting up a storm and I honestly
thought this person wasn't even real at first
so I did a deep dive I saw her first
thing and I go this isn't real and then someone
else sent me something and I legitimately
did a pretty good deep dive and I found her
website and everything real person 100%
you know diversity and inclusion officer at some university the whole thing right And I legitimately did a pretty good deep dive and I found her website and everything. Real person, 100%. Yeah.
You know, diversity and inclusion officer at some university, the whole thing, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So her first thing she went to like reverse viral for, which is I guess viral when people
don't like it.
Yeah.
So my video.
Like a real...
I'm aware.
That is funny though.
Just going viral nonstop and belating you. She goes, I'm blowing. That is funny, though. Just going viral nonstop.
People hating you.
I'm blowing up.
I guess that's sort of like Ben Shapiro.
Those people.
It's like if you ever look.
I'll tell you who's actually that.
Donald Trump Jr.
Exclusively goes viral for people being mad about it.
And Ted Cruz.
Yeah.
But I'd say some people like it, but it's one in three.
Yeah.
But this girl, she basically posted a thing being like,
I should be repaid.
And I'm like, this is bullshit.
Does anyone have any advice?
Because I have to do all this emotional labor
because my son wants to go to college
and he's asking me for advice.
And why is it my job to do emotional labor?
Oh, I hate emotional labor.
What's the worst, right?
Why is it my job to make decisions with him
about what he does
with his life sort of thing, right?
Yeah.
And then it found out
that it's a foster child too.
So she essentially
fostered these children,
you know,
and then the one's going to college
and he can't decide
whether he should go to college or not.
And she can't...
And she's trying to figure out
how she can return him.
She's trying to think about
how she can return him.
What's the return policy on this kid? So she's going off on a big tangent. And she's trying to figure out how she can return him. She's trying to think about how she can return him. What's the return policy on this kid?
So she's going off on a big tangent.
And she's very harmless.
Like, hey, peeps, just looking for some helpful advice.
So my stupid bitch male, White's son, is trying to go to college.
And somehow this is my problem.
Has anyone else been in this situation?
So her language was kind of flowery, right?
So she went kind of nuts on
that right and then wasted no time she just wants to give it a little bit of a shout out to the
lgbtq plus ia d-a-n-n-y p-o-l-i-s-h the lgbtq d-a-n-n-y community you know how we do i bet she's
very disappointed that her,
is her child?
Oh, he's probably straight too.
I'm sure she wouldn't mind doing that emotional labor
if he fucking sucked a dick or two.
Well, so this is what she said.
She just goes,
I just want to give a shout out
to all the people I love
just to let you know that I have love for you.
And they're very specific.
So she has a list and she goes on and on about,
there's about 10 to 20 of them that she loves.
So the first one, autistic biromantic teachers,
bisexual lawyers, pansexual movement leaders,
pansexual wheelchair users.
He goes, autistic biromantic teachers.
So biromantic is that maybe you have like a flirty relationship with like a...
Yeah, yeah. You're not like blowing them, but you and another guy. You're a flirt. what so biromantic is that maybe you have like a flirty relationship with like a um yeah yeah
you're just you're not like blowing them but you and another guy you're a flirt you're a you're
just a flirt regardless of gender right so you're you're not gonna bone a dude but you might reach
for the pen at the same time and your hands touch and you kind of have a moment and he might think
like is there something going on right now yeah yeah what what are we doing yeah so that's like
you're oh by romantic you know what i mean you're not gonna bone him or anything you're just just to
flirt but you're also autistic oh yeah so you're kind of you know you're not making eye contact
when you're flirting no eye contact when you're flirting that's what it is yeah yeah you're
you're sort of hitting each other's hands but you're not looking away and you're sort of on a
different you're on your own planet right you have a calculator in one hand just doing fucking
equations yeah so bisexual lawyers pansexual movement leaders uh black men on the down low
she likes that one she likes black men on the down low yeah that's a funny one to like just so you
know if you're like some gated black man yeah if you're a gay why would you have so much love for
in the closet just because it's tough
you know but not closeted white man what's what's the like layman's definition of emotional like
what's the man's definition of emotional labor thinking is that what i think uh it would just
be yeah talking to your chick yeah like it's just thinking like i don't it's it's one of those terms
catching up with her terms that used but she says it's like emotional like you go
hey can I get some advice
and you go
I'm not here to do
your emotional labor
no I'm not here for that
hey mom
I just don't want to talk to you
yeah
could I
I need your signature
on my college application
oh
you should have thought of that
before you were fucking
asking a woman
so a woman
is necessary
for a man
to do,
for you to go through with your school application.
I somehow have to be involved.
Big surprise.
It's like, well, dad died mysteriously in that accident.
And you're also a single woman that just,
for some reason, adopted a bunch of kids.
Kind of a weird move to begin with,
especially since you hate us.
But that is true, though.
She's probably had him for five years
and really went through her, like,
white dude, the worst transformation in the last four years so do you think she did
well she probably did she adopt a white guy yeah it's a white guy mistake for her that's a big
mistake well yeah i'm sure i'm sure she was trying she probably tried too hard to get like the non
white guys well that's what i'm saying if he filled any one of these categories if he adopted
a black son he doesn't even have to be outwardly gay. He's just like on the down low a little bit.
Him and his friends
played Oogie Cookie.
And then she'd be more than happy
to fill out the college
application for him.
Pansexual wheelchair user,
so she got love for y'all.
Yeah.
Asian bi-queen doctors.
So I don't know what bi-queen,
oh, bi-queer, sorry.
Bi-queer, bi-queer.
So bi-
What's bi-queer?
I think you could add queer
onto any of these, right? Yeah, yeah. You could say femme, bisexual, queer queer i think you could add queer on any of these right yeah you could say femme
bisexual queer doctors or you could yeah you're bisexual and you're queer gender queer polyamorous
people she got love for y'all not her son though uh pansexual carpenters that's my favorite one
that was always one of my favorite like ideas for a sketch that i never made but i just love
the idea of like the one the one guy that's like demisexual on the construction site and getting
everyone to come out of the closet or just just he's got the the tail like coming out of his
fucking you know like the raccoon tail out of his fucking vest just anyone yeah coming to the closet
on like some bullshit nonsense to like his construction troop it always makes me laugh especially on this wacky shit
it's not even just like it's like yo I'm
gay yeah so I thought
she's left out a few people
so I was thinking that a couple maybe
be gay Walmart
employees who are also retarded yeah
so that's a good one what was that demisexual
moms yeah yeah any of them
all the demisexual moms demiamons
yeah she how do you
think she has love for the disc yeah anyone who runs a mosque but they're also demi yeah anyone
that runs a mosque or attends a mosque but you're also um gay blasphemous how about this kinky subs
who work at subway it's not bad so maybe that's one she got she didn't mention that she has love
for them though if you're a kinky sub because you're not queer.
You think there's going to be a part two to this?
Well, no, not kidding.
There was a part two, yeah.
Oh.
So she already, some people said, what about me?
And then she did the sequel, which was much awaited.
Everyone was sitting there.
Because she said she likes pansexual carpenters.
But then there was some pansexual I don't know
you know the Zamboni driver
yeah yeah Zamboni goes
honestly you know what this sounds like
is like if Babylon B had like merch
and they had their own Mad Libs
yeah yeah yeah
like Babylon B like a Mad Libs
and it was all like
so that's a good one actually too
maybe like a
demisexual retarded Zamboni driver
who smokes who smokes.
Who smokes, yeah.
Yeah, gays who smoke.
Smoke crack.
Blind lesbians
that work at 7-Eleven perhaps.
She has love for y'all.
Well, it depends
what race they are.
Asian with two dicks.
It's also demisexual
that works at the bowling alley.
She forgot a couple.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, anyway. i did the most uh embarrassing
thing in a while uh the other day at a comedy show so a friend of mine who's like a kind of
like a tall uh indian chick uh i was at the as at brooklyn comedy club and i just finished my set
and then i walked to the back of the room and And I guess I walked up to who I thought was this comedian.
And I go, oh, what's up?
And I put my arm around.
Like, I did a pretty aggressive, like.
Yeah.
Oh, that's what I go.
Yeah, and like.
After you just got off a set.
Yeah, like, kind of accidentally.
Like, not necessarily on purpose.
But just probably, like, touched my head, like, pretty close to where her boobs are.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
Dog.
Yeah, but it wasn't trying to be some flirt.
I was just like kind of saying, hi, he's a friend.
Right.
Yeah.
And it was dark or whatever.
And then, uh, and she was dark.
She, yeah, she, I was dark and she was dark.
And then she looked at me weird.
And then I looked at her and then I just walked away and it was just someone from the crowd.
Oh, crazy.
And then I watched her.
And you just got off set.
I just got off stage.
So.
And then I watched her walk back to her seat just got off stage and then i watched her walk
back to her seat and start whispering to the person you won't believe it
the last comedian i went to the bathroom and he just fucking grabbed me and started hugging me
like i'm on some fucking uh steve martin in his early days stuff where the show never ends
on this wacky guy you try to go to the wash bathroom after my set,
I'm still fucking coming up to you
and I'm still up to my old tricks.
So did you just leave?
Yeah, I never saw her again.
You have to.
Well, I was thinking there's going to be a complaint.
This comedian's finished his sentence sexually harassed.
Yeah, like she goes full on sexual harassment scandal.
It was nuts.
Anyway, speaking of comedy, we went to the Andrew Sch full-on sexual harassment scandal. It was nuts. Yeah.
Anyway, speaking of comedy, we went to the... Andrew Schultz had...
He sold out all these shows at Radio City, which, shout out to him.
Yeah.
Fucking killing it right now.
And then we went to the after party for his show, and there was, like, a magician there.
You know what I was talking about?
Magician out of me on Instagram after.
Yeah, I was talking to him, because I said, you know what...
So...
He had a real, real solid trick.
He had this one trick that, did he do the X?
The X trick was his trick.
The X trick was his.
I Googled how to do it out there.
Me too.
And then you do it and you go, oh, no, no.
Oh, you didn't figure it out?
Okay.
So the trick is.
I mean, magicians never tell our secrets, but no.
Dude, it's literally like it's a special sharp.
I'll tell you how I thought he did it.
I'll tell you how.
Well, you tell me how you thought he did it.
Okay.
I'll tell you how he did it.
Okay.
So this is what happens. He basically, he has someone's hand. He puts an X you how I thought he did it. I'll tell you how. You tell me how you thought he did it. I'll tell you how he did it. Okay, so this is what happens.
He basically, he has someone's hand.
He puts an X on it. Then he does something.
Then the X is gone. And then the person beside
them opens up their hand and they have the X on their hand.
How do they get the X on their hand though? Okay.
So my guess was that he put the X
on the other person's hand before somehow.
So he put the X on the other person's
hand like three minutes ago.
No, because it was on. It was like, oh yeah, right, because it's the other person. hand like three minutes ago. Yeah. No, because it was on,
it was like,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right,
because it's the other person.
So this is my guess.
Most of the tricks,
like whenever you go to a magic show,
90% of the things is always like,
oh yeah, they did that before.
It's kind of when they do the magic,
you know, the illusionists,
a big part of what they do
is they get the people's names
and do all this stuff.
Tony Robbins is big into that, right?
Yeah.
He gets people's,
people put their problems in before and then he, you know, he picks the right people and they all do this sort of thing, right?
Yeah.
So they act like they're so off the cuff, but the truth is they knew all this stuff
beforehand.
So what I thought is maybe you go up to some people before, shake their hands or something
like that, put an X on their hand, then they basically forget about it.
Then you do the trick, but the one washes.
So he puts the x on the
one person's hand that washes off really easy and the other person already had the x on their hand
yeah so i mean kind of but it's not it doesn't happen in uh in advance so basically what it is
it's a special sharpie you can buy okay it looks like a sharpie brand sharpie but it's like a magic
trick see i'm not impressed with getting the x on your hand and then getting it off how does he get
the x on the other hand so look so okay so, okay, because I looked into it.
So the top of the Sharpie, so he has a Sharpie, the top of it, like the non-pen side or whatever, is sticky.
And it has like a false little, not a false compartment, but you stick your hand on top of it.
And then when you bring it up, the top cap part is stuck to your hand.
And then there's an X, an inked up X that's now stuck to your thumb.
Okay.
Okay.
So he goes, because what he does, he goes, okay, some, like he did with my girlfriend.
So he goes, okay, come here.
He takes her hands and he's holding them down.
And he goes, okay, close your hands.
And I guess as he's doing that, he dabs your hand and closes your hand, right?
Oh, gotcha.
And then the pen part has this type of thing.
I didn't know he touched her hand. He does. He does that. Every person's hand. Oh, that's way less impressive. He goes, pen part has this i didn't know he touched
her hand he does he doesn't every person's oh that's way less impressive he goes close your
hand i didn't know he touched her yeah he goes he closes i'm not impressed at all because you're
not following it at that point you're not thinking you don't know i would have been on my fucking
eyes are on this shit yeah but anyways and then the plebs like you wouldn't be and then the fucking
you didn't even know and then and then the pen part is it just like it's this really like easy
ink to come off so then he he writes it down and then he just goes and he like does this and it's so it's gone
and then he puts it and then it's on the hand because the thing with the x that i mean obviously
it's a magic trick so i'm not being like oh it's not real it's like he didn't really do that like
you really know like i had the urge to be like that yeah that wasn't real but you know it's
obviously a magic trick and i was like really high at that point but uh no you're at the time
oh yeah no you're lying
because at the time
you were like
whoa
dude I think magic's real
dude
uh
but the X was so perfect
like
you could tell
it had to have been a stamp
oh
okay
so that's a little bit of a
yeah yeah
well speaking of
anyways you could just buy it
for like $30
I'll tell you a good uh
magic
but he was a good magician
and he did a cool
do you know who Zach Bagans is?
No.
Okay, so he's the guy who's a big ghost hunter?
Yeah.
So he's like a famous ghost hunter guy.
How many ghosts has he caught?
They never really found that many ghosts.
More than one?
More than zero?
He found a couple, I think.
Well, no.
The thing is, so there is the ghost on our show that don't find any,
but a lot of these people,
what they do is they have all their sonar radars
and stuff like that.
So they have all these like contraptions.
Yeah, they're like, you can't buy them.
They make them on their own.
So they don't capture the ghost,
but they say, hey, there's a ghost in this building
and they get their sort of radar rigged up
and they go, oh, look, he's up there.
Wait, are people trying to capture ghosts on these shows they're actually trying to ghost hunters they like it's
like in this this bag i have a ghost but they don't try to but yeah but they do say this ghost
is up to his old tricks right yeah so anyways i know a friend of a friend that uh was went on uh
hung out with him a few times right and banged him and allegedly um he he doesn't drop the ghost hunter
persona and then he brought the girl back and he has a painting that like moves and then he was
telling the girl like oh shit the spirits like they don't like it when people are here and stuff
like that so she's like okay well obviously it's not a real spirit so you have a picture that's
like rigged up to move so you can pretend there's ghosts.
He goes, what are you talking about?
She goes, let me check this out.
He goes, no, don't touch that.
It's haunted.
Yeah, do not.
If you know what's best for you, before you know it, you'll be haunted.
So apparently, this guy, I guess he thinks, and imagine he starts dating someone.
He goes, why'd you do that and he
goes you know that's the only way anyone's ever loved me one of my ghost hunting abilities
he doesn't drop the gimmick and apparently the whole time you're hanging out with this guy
it's very ghost oriented like his real life is very yeah he's all the ghosts every ghost this
goes that right i mean that's similar with the magicians though they're even i talked to that guy because right he dm'd me oh they live the life and they and then
i was like dude that was a like yeah but they live the life of like doing the tricks which is
you know uh honorable life to some degree for sure but i was like oh man that was my girlfriend was
trying to figure out how that trick was worked or whatever and he just was like yeah i'm still
trying to figure it out too like that's kind of as he goes like i don't know either okay so he lives the life sure that's fine but everyone knows
magic is tricks yeah this guy isn't saying like yeah obviously we do some stuff on the show
he's dying with the lie so he's in his real life it would be more though so a magician that's been
dating his wife for like he has a wife and kids and he's been with this girl for like 25 years.
And he's still just like every time,
you know,
he does his magic show and he comes home and he goes,
babe,
I can't talk right now.
The magic was running through me.
Like,
you know,
after I do my magic,
it takes the energy out of me because of the spirits and stuff like that.
Like he was going down with that line.
She had to be like,
I know you buy these tricks on the internet,
right?
You can buy them on a website.
So this guy, I saw a thing actually, i don't know if it's related to me
searching but david blaine now has something coming out where he's giving away all the secrets
it's like you can oh the other magicians might hate that he might get killed before that comes
out it's hard to fucking uh track down blaine yeah well i wouldn't if i was him i wouldn't
be fucking happy with that if i was the other magicians. So the girl from Libs of TikTok got doxxed.
She did.
And basically the...
My fucking crocodile tears, Taylor Lorenz.
So Taylor Lorenz is this person that writes for all these magazines, right?
She's 55 years old.
What's the joke that everyone keeps saying she's old?
Well, I saw that yesterday, too uh because she went on that i remember when she was crying on mbc
she said like uh like under 35 year old like whatever uh journalist and then everybody's like
she was like trying to put her itself in the under 35 category and then everybody's like you're not
under oh i got you okay yeah well she's you know
there's this she's this girl and she's you know public enemy camp the greatest journalist in the
world public enemy counselor that essentially she tries she writes all these pieces she was one of
the original like rats that was going into uh what was the app that you people used for 10 seconds
and no one does anymore we used to do the audio chat rooms oh clubhouse she was one of
the original like clubhouse rats that would go and people people would do you know you said you
people and i thought it was like a jew thing she would do these like j swipe right right right right
she would do these apps and then uh she would be there with her notepad and like a fake avatar and
then she'd write stories in like the new y Times. You'd be like, just so you know, some guys had fag in like the chat room.
So she had a bunch of those.
She was doing all sorts of stuff like this.
And then her big thing,
she's honestly canceled tech guys almost the most.
That's a big part of her cancellation spree, right?
But the funny part is she, I guess,
because she entered this arena of, you know,
essentially declaring war on people.
Other people declared war back,
obviously.
I mean,
the real crazy thing was her going on MSNBC and doing that whole thing of
crying,
being like,
you don't know how hard it is to be a journalist.
People are doxing me.
Right.
But the funny part is so after the framework set,
she is this woman that's dedicated her life to essentially doxing people yeah and
then she doxed this person for doxing people yes because i guess that is true and to be honest i
kind of saying libs of tiktok is doxing people well it's a little bit different than doxing
because those people have put those videos themselves out there i would say this too
because especially it's like tiktok is like those people like when you put something on tiktok like
the goal is for it to get a million views it's not like putting something on twitter okay so my point
is it just depends on the definition of doxing i'm let's say we remove whether it's good or bad
yeah if you say that uh i don't know what you would say. If someone- Personal information, I think, is like your phone number, address.
Well, what they do a lot is the employers.
So it'd be the equivalent of if you did something that you didn't like and everyone goes,
he's playing at this club and this club and this club and this and this.
That's your place of employment.
I would say that's toxic.
Well, that's the big part of Libs at TikTok is like, here's this teacher.
She works here, sort of thing, right? So whether or not people agree with it or whatever that's just like what's
happening so it's basically like someone that's like getting saying they're like doxing this
person for doxing this person and then going on a thing being like everyone's doxing it's like
sounds like a whole lot of streamer bullshit right now sounds like they would be very comfortable in the world of streaming.
Yeah, and I think once you're in the public,
I don't think you could have a...
It's hard to probably have a million followers on social media
and keep it...
Well, no one ever knows who you are.
Especially an account that pisses so many people off.
Has anyone ever pulled that off?
What?
Where you have...
Is there anyone right now that has an account
with just millions
of followers and no one knows who's behind it maybe some crypto people or something yeah there's
crypto people for sure titania mcgrath that was they kept that going for a while for a bit and
then some uh someone in the uk outed him um there's crypto people there's a bunch of crypto
accounts that are just totally anonymous like okay and i think like does anyone know who zero hedge is like are these uh i bet someone does but no i don't know who's zero uh
i don't know if that's ever come but there's yeah there's nothing funnier about the the journalists
that have dedicated their life to you know uh harassing people essentially and trying to get
people fired and stuff like that and then it like comes back to them where people are mad and
they're flabbergasted like whatever you want to say about the most inflammatory on the people like
we're talking about let's say a ted cruz of the world i don't think ted cruz is ever going to come
out and be like i am being harassed unless to say yeah this happens to me just as much as you so
it's this crazy thing where you go like who's fucking declaring war on the internet
on entire groups of people and then surprised that you know yeah for sure that there's some
people that aren't that happy about it it always reminds me of being on an airplane and you're kind
of uh uh you're like kind of uh someone's kind of kicking your seat and then you kind of put it back
and then they're kicking the seat
and you're putting it back or vice versa.
And then the one person eventually like looks around,
like, what are you doing?
You're like, hey, we both know what's going on here.
You kicked your seat back and I don't like it.
Like, okay, whatever.
Maybe we're both being petty right now,
but we both know what's going on right here.
Like you want to, you go,
all I did was trying to get this
person fired and now i'm you know i mean yeah i mean this is classic live by the sword die by the
sword of course tale all the time and it's not even it's not even the sword it's people sending
you a hate mail essentially well you know you want to dox people you're gonna get doxed i don't know
see we're gonna try and do that to you but the crazy part
is these people
that go
you go yes listen
being in the fucking
the nitty gritty
of like culture war
on Twitter
all day every day
is probably not
the greatest for your health
if you're not in the
greatest health
no
and you either have to
sort of detach yourself
from it or you have
or the type of person
that just likes fighting
or you kind of play it
as a game or whatever weird side gig too for like this orthodox jewish
woman it's very weird that it's i think it's kind of funny yeah he's like orthodox jewish
who's a realtor yeah yeah you know on the side i just you know just post about libs of tiktok
right it's a hobby i guess yeah yeah you could say it's a hobby but yeah to be there and then she goes i'm
getting all this hate and it was just like i'm not you know how normal people like you could say
someone's getting bullied on the internet people will make this argument to high school kids be
like well just log off and you go that's maybe easy for you to say but it's like dude if you're
a 16 year old that like is legitimately you know everyone at your school is making groups about you
it would suck right and they're still like the in-person and i know like a lot of comedians make the joke like you just log
off but if you there's a big difference between that and you've dedicated your life to fighting
people and then you go i can't date with anymore it's like shit you could stop anytime yeah at any
point i mean you could like, you know what?
I'm not going to write any more articles about how other people should be fired.
And tomorrow, people will stop yelling at you.
Yeah.
Right?
But if only it was that easy, Ryan.
They're like, this is the thing.
It's this idea of like, I have this like mental problems and I can't deal with the stress of this.
And you go, well, what is making you do this?
You go, I can't stop.
It's the libs of TikTok.
She probably hates the libs of TikTok right now.
Oh, yeah.
And it just made them more popular or made them stronger.
But also it just adds this element.
I mean,
it is this weird kind of element though,
with,
with,
uh,
where she's Taylor rent specifically as being like,
Hey,
if you want to do this,
like I'm going to invite like danger,
this element of danger into your life,
like into your real life.
Right.
Cause you know,
that woman is probably like,
yeah,
I don't know.
I don't like,
you know what it is with a bike lock or something.
I think the internet's figured out to some degree
how to make trying to cancel people not free.
Yeah.
It used to be only upside.
You know what I mean?
There was a time when, you know,
kind of trying to get someone fired,
it was almost only upside.
Not only did it accomplish the goal that you wanted usually
it also made you like a hero and probably got you more uh popularity and stuff like that now
i think the internet's figured out how to make a downside it's not free to try to ruin someone's
life you know like guys like barstool and stuff like that to business insta a day porno and
business insider is like yeah like it wasn't free for them to try to you know i think it was this article it was free for a while too
because the people who were oftentimes doing the camp were like we're journalists this is what
journalists do this is the game and yeah this is the game we're journalists i don't know this is
what we do this is journalism and then people are like yeah i don't care i don't give a shit well
it's it's just i don't respect your journalism so i don't care and also don't give a shit. Well, it's just... I don't respect your journalism, so I don't care.
And also,
these people have a public platform,
so they go, okay.
And you're a public speaker with your opinion.
It's like, okay, well, here's mine.
And I have a whole bunch of followers too.
War.
Now we're at war.
Lives of TikTok has a bigger reach than Taylor and Ren.
You're not anonymously tattling to the the
teacher anymore you're declaring war in the you're declaring a fight at the at the ballpark
you know i mean now you're going to the cages bike locks at dawn do you see you guys have that the
the cage fights at your school uh what my jewish school yeah no if someone you know what i mean if
someone's dime went missing or something like that i We didn't have cage fighting. Why do you have a cage?
The tennis courts.
Oh, at high school we did.
Yeah, at high school we had, that was a big,
I don't know if it was the tennis courts.
I think it was usually on the baseball diamond.
You didn't have that?
If someone gave you like a bad stock pick or something like that,
you'd go to the tennis courts.
To the tennis courts, to the polo grounds.
We used to call it the cages though.
And there was probably one a week that there was a big fight.
In high school, I don't remember where the fights went down.
They were usually, I think, because they were always off school property, right?
Because there was a thing you can't be on.
Tennis courts were right off school property.
Can't be on school property because then it's like a different offense.
And everyone went out.
There's lots of fights down there.
The famous one, my favorite of all time, was when the guy pushed the guy and then a wrench fell out of his thing
and he goes,
oh, you've got that wrench now.
That never happened
with the wrench.
The Colombian guy,
we used to call him
the Lumbian.
He was a couple years older than us.
No one wanted to mess
with the Lumbian.
Did the wrench get used?
And his friend,
we called the pigeon
because he looked like
he used to walk like a pigeon
and we'd say,
the pigeon and the Lumbian.
And he'd always be at home
and say it to his face then.
No one would have the guts to...
We got the guts.
No one would...
That used to be the thing
any time he was around.
He'd be like,
oh, I was meeting up with so-and-so
and be like,
what were you just...
You just gave him a nickname,
weren't you?
I think you were saying something about it.
It wasn't me.
You definitely wouldn't want to call him
pigeon to his face, man.
Shut up.
I mean, there's that one guy
who I've tried to make fun of from back in your day, the
rapper, who you, whenever I do, you're like, no, no, no.
I have this.
Yeah.
I have some rappers that I went to school with.
This one's as if.
That I know from home.
A couple times I've tried.
No, but, well, he's an idiot.
I have these rappers that we.
White rappers.
White rappers that I went to school with that we kind of know, right?
And we kind of clown on them a bit, right?
So it's a big, you know, sending around in our group chats,
like, you got to check this one out.
It's really funny, right?
Not even all that I went to school with,
just from whatever, being in the music scene
and stuff like that.
There's a lot of really bad ones, right?
And me and my friends love it.
It's like, you know, that's one of the main things
that invigorates our group chats.
It's amazing, right?
Yeah.
And he just, and so so but he's also like the
biggest gangster dude who's been to jail a bunch of times and we know him fairly well so it's one
of these things where you go it's for for danny he's just like oh why don't we play it on the
podcast and i go oh because that'll be the last podcast fucking I don't have those kind of fucking cojones.
I mean, we did play it on the old podcast.
No, we didn't.
No, we did not.
No, not a chance.
Not a chance.
I wouldn't be here.
This guy's killed for less.
You think I'm going to fucking put his rap career on blast on the podcast?
This isn't your Jewish, you know, internet fights.
I feel like we did.
This is the real deal, buddy.
This is white trash fucking gang members.
Yeah.
You don't live to play another day.
He lives in a different country, though.
Well, I don't know if I told you this one, but it's another rapper that I can't say the name.
He's a famous Canadian rapper.
And my buddy in LA, he was like,
do you know this rapper?
He's really famous in Canada.
I was like, oh, yeah.
I actually like some of his stuff.
Are you a fan?
He goes, well, anyways, he lives underneath me.
And he's like a huge pain in the ass.
Yeah, I remember that.
He goes, he moved in next door to me
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So the mask stuff, Danny just released a video
about the mask stuff today.
So they've announced that you don't have to wear them
on the planes, which I agree with Danny.
It'll be big news for me.
And it's pretty huge news.
It is also so funny to go from,
you know,
you got to yesterday,
be the person that if you didn't have a mask on,
they could go,
Hey,
what are you doing?
Remember?
I remember ladies would yell at me,
right?
Remember the Amtrak?
How big we train from DC and they were like all over our dicks about masks.
I was,
you know,
he came up and started jerking us off and he goes, oh, well, then put a mask on next time.
It was nuts.
It was out of control, right?
Yeah, it was nuts.
So this guy's, you know, and that's the employees.
I'm saying citizens.
This lady came up to me with her face mask on yelling at me one time being like, you're being so inconsiderate because I took it down.
And I'm just like, you know, I always carry a little piece of food around me so i hold up my granola bar and i go who's the
asshole now bitch but it's like a sweet grandma you're like who's the asshole now bitch i'm just
laughing at the granola bar like oh maybe you should open your fucking eyes how about that how
about that how about you catch me outside?
How about that?
So anyways, and now you go from that to tomorrow.
You cannot say one thing to anyone.
No.
That's tough, right?
Yeah.
Although I think a lot of people think that it's only a matter of time before it's back.
They're going to, because there's going to be a deal.
They think this is a temporary ban.
Yeah.
This is like Rover.
They're saving up their school.
Getting struck down for a second where they're like, don't worry, it'll be back.
It'll be back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right, because these people...
I mean, apparently, the whole thing is,
so some judge in Florida was just like,
no, it's no good, and then the whole country goes,
okay, like, why didn't they do this a year ago?
Yeah.
Where was this judge in Florida a year ago?
Yeah, where was this judge? Iida a year ago yeah where was this judge i agree yeah probably judging stupid shit judging bikini contest yeah
he's probably judging the fucking it's a woman actually it was like a wet t-shirt contest because
a lot of people mostly on the left are obviously very angry about this and they're like she's not
even qualified she's like she's only 30 she's like 33 years old or something agree to agree yeah
yeah she's not even qualified i'll wear the mask if you admit that girls aren't qualified
qualified to make such a decision that's the you know that's the the the uh compromise i'm
willing to make yeah if you admit that girls aren't capable of making these kind of decisions
on scale i will wear a mask all the time and you can find some
you know
fucking wimpy
like some wimpy judge
you know
he's sniffling
while he makes his decisions
that is
yeah
base judge
finally
base judge
yeah and then so
but what took so long
exactly right
like where's the judge
like holy shit
I could do this
this whole time
I didn't even realize
I don't know
I don't know
if you know anything
about the court system
but it takes a little while yeah you don't know about that kind of stuff going to jail you don't know about having pri. I don't know. I don't know if you know anything about the court system, but it takes a little while.
Yeah.
You don't know about that kind of stuff going to jail.
You don't know about having priors.
You don't know.
That's why Danny's just like,
just make fun of these gangster rappers.
What's the problem?
And you go, well, they don't see it that way, pal.
Why don't you fucking call someone out for once in your life,
once you're miserable fucking.
Yeah, just call them out from their Upper East Side apartment.
Your fucking Upper East Side privilege. Fucking coastal liberals making fun of these white rappers. will fucking yeah just call them out from their upper east side apartment yeah you're fucking
upper east side coastal liberals making fun of these white rappers and that is danny's a coastal
wimpy liberal he doesn't know what it's like to be in the trenches with the cage fights
you know you only know what it's like to get and have your dad fucking sue their dad because he
stole your dreidel at lunch recess. Law's the law.
You know,
your dad,
you go,
that's what happens
at your school
instead of calling a fight.
The dads come in
and they litigate,
they have a litigation off.
Your honor.
One kid's dad's the judge.
Yeah,
yeah,
they have a litigation off
at the baseball diamond.
So,
that's why,
that's why you don't know
what it's like
to be in these
mean streets of ajax
so there's this article that came out and um the huffpost basically did for people with anxiety or
insecurities it's hard to lose the mask so they're this is keep it exactly it's like it wasn't
there's no legal we're acting like it was illegal before. But the whole premise,
it's so telling on how these people think of everything
because they can't just do something.
It's like they can't just be bisexual.
We're all fucking bisexual.
What?
Oh, I'm the...
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not just going to tell you my pronouns
because you can't tell because I'm very androgynous.
The whole fucking country is doing pronouns now.
Yeah, like, I mean, again, everybody remembers before covid seeing asian people wearing masks
because they were fucking hip to this yes there was no rule against it no it was not illegal you
need it's the kind of thing where people are like i just don't want to be like because they don't
want people see the mouthing math equations yeah but they're just like i don't want to be people
don't want to be the only one they like the cover of the the herd you know i mean like we're all wearing masks i you know so
but wear your fucking mask who cares go wear your mask you know what you could wear a bella clava
if you want you could wear a hazmat suit absolutely you can i saw a guy wearing right when
covid started i saw this dude wearing it wasn't really they got those going on in china we talked
about that a little later because we got nigel ung in the studio big star yeah you know everyone
roger uncle mother effing roger hi yeah yeah yeah super fun dude um so this is what they said when
half of my face is covered it helps me almost not be perceived fully. I can relax and be anonymous.
Does that sound like the person that you go,
let's take someone who's like that and then go,
why don't we make everyone else in society work around what they have? Yeah, of course.
That's probably how you do it.
You know what I mean?
It's kind of like in a friend group, the one person that says,
you know what?
I can't be out too late because I got to work tomorrow, so I got to be out at 7. You go, I guess everyone's going home at 7 then, aren know what? I can't be out too late because I got to work tomorrow.
So I got to be out at seven.
You go, I guess everyone's going home at seven then,
aren't we?
So we're all going home at seven.
And you go, well, why don't you just, you know,
why don't you just have like a late night
and you just don't sleep that much?
Oh, I need my beauty rest.
So I guess we're all getting beauty rest then.
We are.
Because one person,
one person in the squad,
we're all going to be beauticians.
Like many women have noted during the pandemic,
facial coverings have also given a break from leers
and requests to smile more from men, I will say.
I've heard that from women, for real,
that a lot of women, they do feel like
they get bothered less with the mask on.
I mean, of course.
I bother girls less.
I go, what's up, girl?
What's up?
How you doing?
Oh, yeah, you're looking good, shorty.
Mask.
Oh, what's up, girl?
Mask.
Yeah, you know what it is.
Yeah, you're looking good.
You just, mask.
You just smile more.
That's what I do.
I mean, famous people.
I saw Tom Segura talking about it,
that Brad Pitt came to a show of his or whatever,
and then Brad Pitt then hit on every girl
without a mask no no but he's like brett pitt's like he's like the show is starting and then
brett pitt's like yeah i'm just gonna go watch and he's like you're just gonna go watch the show
like from the audience and brett pitt's like yeah watch this and he just like took this he had this
giant mask and he put it on his fucking thing and he put this hat on he's like can't tell oh my god
so for celebrities huge huge huge yeah i'm usually i'm
usually getting mauled on the street without my mask right put that mask on people fucking
signing autographs right and left i mean i'm sure for some super famous people like it actually
they're like this is awesome yeah like if you just want to be like the closest thing to being
like a normal person but and like anything else, yeah, you go, well, there's two tiny little perks,
but on mass,
it makes society pretty ridiculous.
Yes.
Everyone's wearing a mask.
So if you want to wear a mask,
the whole thing,
why do we have to?
Well, I know.
If Brad Pitt wants to wear a mask,
he still can wear a mask.
Yes.
He's always been able to wear a mask.
They just really,
it really comes out
and nobody really thought about it. Yes. So he goes goes the mask feels like a security blanket in so many ways
so kind of kind of uh just saying all the stuff that people said about them they're like saying
it out loud now but here's an idea instead of having a security blanket why don't you have an
actual blanket so if you're the type of person that's like really stressed out about having to
wear the mask yeah what you could do white blanket poke the holes now you're a ghost now you're
white blanket poke the holes now you're a ghost and then an actual blanket underneath like a
blankie yeah and then maybe sort of a stuffed animal for comfort yeah and pacifier and then
also check yourself into maybe like a psychiatric ward it was very comfy in there
padded walls stuff like that and you'll get your meals served to you so it's a very cushy existence
and you'll never have to deal with any of the stresses of being outside around people without
a mask even when you're in your new ghost costume that's true i bet it with the mask thing too a lot
of people from canada now that the mask mandate got lifted here and they're probably like oh no
that the mask mandate got lifted here and they're probably like oh no they're coming for us next trudeau do something justin the first they're taking away our masks you can take our freedom
or actually that's the only that's funny that that's the reverse you can take away our freedom
but you'll never take away our masks. You can take our freedom away.
In fact, it's strongly encouraged.
Strongly.
The less freedom, the better.
But you will never take my mask.
You'll pry that off my cold head.
That'll be the bummer going back to Canada.
When they go, masks are mandatory.
You go, what country is this?
What crappy country is this?
So the mask feels like a security blanket.
Without a mask, someone is more exposed to seeing others' physical signs of social anxiety.
So they're saying, like, if you do a lot of weird stuff, they can see it now.
Like, if you're one of those people that, like, gets nervous and...
Yeah.
Bad tick.
Yeah.
Like, flushed skin or sweating, a psychologist in Atlanta said.
So, well, this is where you go.
Yeah, sweating.
Sweating is not this is like, it's gone from this is going to keep us safe to like, yeah, but what if
someone in society is like, can't stop making weird faces and sweating when they have to
talk to someone?
I mean, you go, all right, mask back on everybody.
I mean, again, for that person, this whole thing has been a godsend because now they
can wear a mask and it doesn't... And the purpose of this article,
to be fair,
isn't to say that
this is a reason that all the masks,
but it's sort of...
It is actually saying,
like, if you are this type of person,
like, these are the kind of things
that maybe you should try to do.
Like, this is their advice.
They say, you know,
if you're one of those people,
so their advice to start with,
they go, you know, start slow.
Try removing your mask first in a comfortable setting or just with people who feel...
This is a sketch I would make.
Yeah.
You go legitimately...
You're like, first time you take it off is right before you shower.
You go, oh.
Yeah, try showering without it first.
It's a sketch, said the director of the Center for Anxiety and OCD.
So that's her advice first.
And then she goes, reach out to people if you need help.
So I think that if you are in a scenario
where taking off this mask
is going to be really,
really problematic for you mentally.
Yeah.
I think that goes without saying,
you probably need some help.
I mean, just keep it on.
Yeah.
Well, that's the other thing.
But if they're trying to be in a situation
where they take it off every now and then,
don't hesitate to ask for help from your support network or from professionals so if you seek
professional help he said know that cognitive behavior therapy also known as cbt is a proven
form of psychological treatment for social anxiety that helps people confront their fears
and change their negative perceptions of themselves and others i've done some cbt go down on the
subway and just some fucking crackhead coughs in my mouth.
And I go, oh, that really helped me with my germophobia.
Dude.
Thank you, sir.
That's so funny having like a wing of the psych ward
where it's literally just a bunch of people with masks
and the person comes in and they go,
now this is really going to scare you,
but it's, you know,
we're going to just really put you
in the devil's den right now.
We're just going to try the nose.
It's a sketch.
Yeah, it's...
Okay, so the one last thing
that we're just going to talk about
before we bring our boy on
is a Toronto thing.
And this just made me laugh
because it was just such a calamity of errors.
So basically,
blocked you out of this article,
but there's this Toronto restaurant that's very popular.
It's fantastic.
You like the restaurant?
Sugo.
So good.
So you like Sugo, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's tough to get in there.
It's a little tiny American Italian eatery.
It's like, what's it?
Eastside Mario's, but if it was good and not shit.
Well, they went Eastside Mario's.
Who bought a boom out of me?
It is really good.
They're the best jingle of all time.
What's up with you? Well they went Eastside Mario's They're the best jingle of all time So for them
And also Eastside Mario's is very good
Because you get unlimited bread
But it's also they try to fill you up with the bread
So it's a catch one too
Hey it's only $10-12 for the whole meal
Here's 90 pieces of loaves of bread
You fat fuck
Well this person says that the restaurant
The waiter called them fat Know what I was thinking pieces of loaves of bread and rube you fat fuck well this person says that the restaurant the
waiter called them fat yeah and this is kind of funny no one i was thinking because america has
such an obesity problem what if you know especially people in america love protesting right
so instead of calling it a diet you call it a hunger protest. Ooh. So you go,
you know what I mean? You say,
Hey,
we're doing a hunger protest against oppression,
everybody.
Yeah.
So basically you convince everyone that's overweight.
Girls basically convince all girls that the,
like the,
that the only way,
and that would be a thing that I feel like you could get,
you know,
some Republican politicians.
Like I bet you could get DeSantis on board if everyone agrees where they go hey listen we call this um
a hunger protest against oppression yeah and then they'll agree everyone agrees that uh
oppression's going no everybody would be like this sounds great what do i have to do they're
like naughty naughty no yeah so girls every girl you basically
say protest something else well i'm thinking um this somebody listens well this is to protest
everything somebody listens to the podcast who i'm not gonna homophobia you protest with hunger
protest someone who listens to this podcast who i'm not gonna call out by name but they know who
they are a little bit of a chubby uh no okay uh he works uh in like a marshmallow factory no in
events okay and he was doing this like lizzo event or whatever and he sent me these i was like i
think it's like a private event or something but he was sending me liz her rider her backup dancers
all look like vader from wwe it's insane earthquakeoon. Dude, honestly, that's what her fucking backup dancers look like.
It's crazy.
They probably show up and they're like,
those are your backup dancers, like the fucking tech guys.
All right, I guess, can you give us a couple hours?
We're going to have to reinforce the stage.
It's insane.
And there's a lot of them.
It looks like the Weird the weird al the fat video
i swear to god and one of them has like a knee brace on like one of those
the back of it i can't i can't say who it was because he's like probably could like lose his
job but it's there it was fucking oh that's a good shit right there oh now all of a sudden danny doesn't want to mention a name
that's fucking great dude these are fucking big girls but look at the knee brace
like like you know what is crazy i wonder if if there's an element with lizzo too who where she's
like i want them all to be bigger than me so i like they all have like the the beer hats with the straw coming down with milkshake probably like i mean i would say that that fucking uh that craft services table
is probably barren all right we're gonna do a uh we're doing like a a bit of a thematic piece here
we're gonna do like a lard factory it's like oh so we work at the lard factory no we're the lards so the restaurant basically the server was kind of making jokes right but this is then they uh
they they basically this is what the the person said he said that her server first made remarks
about what she and her friend decided to order.
Noting that her dining parties,
choice of salad before a pasta dish was heavy and light.
I like that.
Yeah.
And Ruby's decision to try out two of the restaurant's most renowned entrees,
a pasta and chicken bar was heavy and heavy.
Yeah.
I mean,
dude,
that place is you go there.
Like I'm not the kind of person who takes leftover.
So I might usually eat what I order. That place. I remember I went there a, as you go there, like, I'm not the kind of person who takes leftovers home. I usually eat what I order.
That place, I remember I went there a few times with my ex,
and like, you're taking home so much food.
Well, these people didn't, and they heard about it.
The portions are comically large.
They're like, you just get this, and you're like,
I don't fucking...
Well, this person...
Like, man versus food.
They got mad, and they posted a big, you know,
angry thing or whatever, right?
And then they said,
if you look back at our 1,000-star reviews, you'll see people writing about our great staff and the fun nature we didn't
receive these by insulting our guests we were just trying to bring some fun and then the internet
took that and went you know real wild being like of course they'd fucking double down they won't
even apologize but it's so funny there's nothing that makes me laugh more than the waiter uh doing
passive aggressive fat
comments like oh um and when you like that okay so we're eating for two tonight i guess
oh uh you're pregnant congratulations oh um okay so you order that and that okay so i guess we'll
get the doggy bag because obviously you're not going to finish oh you are going to finish it
okay well i guess my interest i guess you know there's you see something new every day huh uh so basically the person i want to know what he goes oh we're
doing heavy enlightened i guess telling a fat person though okay man you have a fat person
and skinny person sitting at the table and you go to the skinny person you go all right so we're
doing heavy and light for you and uh heavy and heavy here's the thing though have we established
that the person who got angry was
in fact overweight?
I don't have pictures of her, but why was she getting mad?
She's saying the weight staff was calling her
fat. Why would it be a problem if she wasn't fat?
I thought it was maybe the kind of thing where it's not even like that she's fat
is that she's just like, oh, I'm like,
you know, like I have body, you know, like
every chick has body. Oh my God, yeah.
These jokes could make me fat.
Some of this stuff's nothing. And the next thing she goes,
they had the audacity.
The server goes,
you've got a big appetite.
Yeah.
So I is okay.
This is the thing.
If a girl comes in and she's 500 pounds on the mobility scooter and orders,
and you go,
Oh,
you got someone's hungry.
It is.
If they're really fat,
it's a lot.
You,
you,
you gotta be pretty autistic to say that to like a
real big woman lizzo comes in and says i'll order the steak and you go oh big eater
yeah it's really like obviously super yeah if a dude's if a dude's 800 pounds i mean i don't
remember i'll order the extra large steak and you go hungry man i don't remember them being like
that it wasn't because you know there's some't remember them being like that it was because you
know there's some of those restaurants where like that's the vibe where they go yeah the
service are wacky here it wasn't like that they go what do you want you know i want that and they
go okay you didn't get the you didn't get this wacky treatment that they've been talking about
the wacky treatment i was like hey can i get a chicken parm i'm surprised and then they go
oh you fat fuck huh i like this place you you went there no that's what happens you go on you said um uh
yeah you go um oh uh you go i love order this and all over this you go do you want to bring it now
or do you want to wait for your guests to come they go oh my yeah yeah don't worry we're just
gonna fire up the uh fucking forklift so we can get this meal out to you fat piece of shit when they bring your meal and they go
oh shit okay so uh that's good and then would you like would you like cutlery in a plate or
do you want us to just set that up on a trough like you're accustomed to you know what a big
factor is that we don't know here is was the server a woman or a man because that's a big
big difference yeah you never know maybe it was was the server a woman or a man? Because that's a big one. Big difference.
Yeah.
You never know.
Maybe it was like the server was like, yeah, I know this chick.
I hate her.
She goes, yeah, I'll have an extra large pasta dish.
And then for the side, I will have a second pasta dish.
And he goes, fat.
Fatty Arbuckle.
Oh, ladies and gentlemen
We have a celebrity
At our table
Fatty Arbuckle
From that old show
I can't remember
What it's called
But it's one of the
Fatty Arbuckle
Fatty Arbuckle
Was like an old
Legendary fat character
He was like a
Clown
Oh my god
I can't believe
My favorite actor
From the Gap Girls
Has just arrived
What a treat To have the Gap Girls has just arrived.
What a treat to have the Gap Girls in our... Yeah, so we don't know whether this was a woman or a man
who was the server, which I think is...
This was aggressive.
He goes, at another point in the meal,
the server returned to check how everything was going.
He said he decided to comment on how much the girl had eaten.
He said, wow wow look at you
looks like we're gonna have to roll you out of here that's that's a lot that's a lot but you're
right you wouldn't say that to someone that was like yeah like you are like you say that to someone
who's skinny and you go oh we're gonna have to make the appetite we're gonna have to roll you
out of here and then they go yeah i'm skinny i got that hey maybe we get a pin to like pop you
and then deflate some of the air out of this bad boy.
Oh, I didn't know we were fat bastard was here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, I get a picture for the wall.
You mind if I get a picture of the wall?
Eddie Murphy.
If you just do me a favor.
Oh, it was a farting to a minimum.
We got a lot of guests here today.
His comments were hurtful.
So it was a guy.
Hmm.
Wow.
Gay guy for sure. You think of a sassy guy? was a guy. Gay guy, for sure.
You think of a sassy gay guy? Sassy gay guy.
Only a sassy gay guy would be.
No straight guy is seeing a chick and being like, hey, you fat pig, when he's working
for tips.
Has to be a gay guy.
Has to be.
Right.
Has to be.
Oh, shit.
I hope you're going to gorge some of that after because this is a meal for a fat person.
The bathroom is just back there
just so when you want to go throw up,
you fat tub.
And you tub alert.
And then he comes back.
He goes, any dessert?
Okay.
He's talking to the two of them
and he goes, the skinny one.
He's like, any dessert for you
and for the tub alert?
By the way, if you do go there,
they have a great tiramisu.
I do remember that.
And will the tub alert want anything?
And for your fat girlfriend?
Would your fat girlfriend want anything?
100% gay guy.
That's what I'm going with.
Gay guy.
Oh, look it.
You're going to have to roll yet.
Have to be.
Because it's only a sassy gay guy would say that.
Remember when the sassy gay guy wasn't that happy?
I kept calling him buddy.
We talked about this, but there's a real non-binary dude.
There's a dude that was non-binary.
There was. Thanks, buddy. Hey, buddy. You know what's funny? Hey, buddy. Dobinary dude. I was like, dude, that was non-binary. But I'd be like, thanks, body.
Hey, body.
You know what was funny?
Hey, body, do you mind if I take cash?
I didn't notice I was doing it.
At a party we were at, there was, I don't know if I can say this,
but there was, I'm not going to obvious, but there was a comic.
And some people are like, think he's gay or whatever.
And then this guy who we had met was talking to him, but he's not gay.
And some guy was talking to him and he goes, yeah, you know,
you got good gaydar. And the guy him, but he's not gay. And some guy was talking to him and he goes, yeah, you know, you got good gaydar.
The guy's like,
I'm not gay.
I was sitting right there
and he says that.
He goes,
you know,
you got good gaydar.
You're going to count on you being gay.
And I was like,
I'm not gay.
I'm not gay.
I'm not gay.
I'm not gay.'m not gay I'm not gay Alright
Okay
We're gonna bring Nigel on here
Super funny fucking dude
He actually matches
And he likes the sketches and stuff
And me and him made friends
On the internet
So he came to New York
And he sold out a bunch of shows
So we're
And said come through the studio
And we've been hanging out with him
So
Alright
Without further ado,
our boy, Nigel Ng.
You usually go for an hour, hour and a half?
Yeah, but no rules.
Okay.
Dude, it's no rules on this podcast.
Danny's fiddling around.
We're here with Nigel.
No holds barred.
Okay, there he's loud.
Oh, yeah.
That's a loud boy.
Am I a loud boy?
Well, he's sometimes a loud boy
and then sometimes he's a quiet boy.
That was the extent of how loud I'm going to get.
But you're a natural internet star.
Dude, I remember we've been talking on the internet.
I didn't know.
I knew I'd seen your stuff around,
but I didn't know the extent to which you were fucking...
You know what?
What are you selling out?
Huge theaters back to back to back to back?
Well, yeah.
It's a bit crazy to me. Well, yeah, it's,
it's,
it's a bit crazy to me.
I still can't believe it.
You know?
Yeah.
So a lot for grammar season and we're putting on town hall in New York.
Yeah.
Do you know what?
All because of a dumb fried rice video.
Yeah.
So is,
uh,
cause you did a bunch of celebrities and we were saying,
we were wondering,
did any of them not like you?
Did he like you?
Jamie definitely doesn't like me.
Gordon likes me.
Gordon Ramsey likes me.
Ramsey likes you? Yeah. Yeah. Cause he's you? Jamie definitely doesn't like me. Gordon likes me. Gordon Ramsay likes me. Ramsay likes you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because he's got a bit of a sense of humor.
Yes, yes.
But Jamie Oliver, no sense of humor?
No, no.
I think he's too stuck up his own ass.
He's been famous for too long.
Yeah, he's been famous since he was like 12.
Yeah.
And housewives love him.
Yeah, chefs get a big ego, eh?
Yeah.
So when I made the video, my agent at at the time she sent that video over to
Jamie's team and being like sick right what do you guys think and then the word back
from Jamie's team was I quote and I quote they said mixed reactions from the
team which is the most British way of calling me a cunt yeah so that's how I know
I think Nigella
doesn't like me either
because I reviewed
Nigella Lawson
you guys know her here
I know her
she's got a
he's into food
I'm into food
Ryan will tell you
about his food stuff
and you'll be mortified
I have some of my own
we have a kind of
a running bit on the show
but
okay
so Nigella
I don't think she likes me either
because I make fun
of her coke habit
so oh really it was just you know she had a few Okay. So Nigella, I don't think she likes me either because I make fun of her coke habit.
Oh, really?
It was just, you know, she had a few.
I'm sure she doesn't do it anymore, but she had a few articles coming out where she was going through a rough divorce.
Yeah, yeah. She's getting into the white.
Oh, you know what?
I remember that.
Yeah.
So it's not her fault.
And I'm on her side.
I'm on Nigella's.
I'm on your side, Nigella.
But if the news article is there, then it's fair game.
What? I love how you looked in the camera. You remember you were saying, she doesn't watch this. I'm clipping this up's. I'm on your side, Nigella. But if the news article is there, then it's fair game. What?
I love how you looked in the camera.
You're saying,
she doesn't watch this.
I'm clipping this up
and sending it to her.
This is my new dish
that I've been experimenting.
And this is even before
we're going to do the podcast
over the last couple of weeks.
A big one that I've been working with lately
is white rice
and then chipotle mayo.
Chipotle mayo.
Just that.
Just that.
So a lot of times what happens if you order food,
let's say Thai food or whatever,
or even Indian food,
it comes with rice and you always have too much rice.
So you take the rice and then you pour tons of chipotle mayo in it
and then you sort of mix it up and that's nice.
I mean, I have...
That's what I've been working with lately.
I haven't had that.
I don't like the pairing of the chipotle,
but I have from time to time,
I'll eat white rice with Kewpie mayo,
soy sauce, and some furikake.
It's not bad.
Surely you need something else, right?
It's not just the rice and the...
It'll just be...
Well, it'll be kind of like...
Yeah, there'll be something on top,
but sometimes if it's just in a pinch,
I will eat just that.
Okay, one more.
That's my trash.
You pour cereal into ice cream.
So that's another one.
So you take a bowl of ice cream, and then you put cereal in the ice cream.
I think that's fine.
That's fine.
Yeah, that's fine.
That's just a topping.
You just are kind of thinking out of the box in terms of toppings.
Yeah, but the rice thing.
Yeah, that sounds grim, man.
Sauce on rice.
It's grim.
It was.
I mean, I grew up poor. Even my mom tried to put some meat on it sometimes. Sometimes you're too lazy, man. Sauce on rice. It's grim. It was. I mean, I grew up poor.
Even my mom tried to put some meat on it sometimes.
Sometimes you're too lazy, though.
Or an egg.
An egg.
Yeah, an egg.
An egg is a good one.
Didn't Gordon Ramsay was getting,
he did like a, what was it, a Chinese food place,
and then people were getting mad at him
for appropriation stuff, right?
Yes, I've actually been.
It's called Lucky Cat.
Oh, yeah.
It's in London.
It's in London.
Funny name for a Chinese food place.
I know.
And I actually
interviewed
on my old podcast
I interviewed the journalist
who wrote about it
wrote this story
and then she said
Gordon Ramsay fanboys
were just coming after her
right
but
whose side are you on
well at first
I was on her side
and then I saw
what she wrote on Twitter
so she basically
you were on her side
because you're like
oh everyone shouldn't
be coming after her
like that but were you on her side with you're like, oh, everyone shouldn't be coming after her like that.
But were you on her side with that
he shouldn't have made the restaurant?
No, no.
I think anybody can make any restaurant, man.
You know, because people always say like,
oh, white guys try to be culturally appropriate
and make Asian food.
But I know a lot of Asian guys
who make shitty Asian food too.
So please.
Yeah, yeah.
More shitty white food.
Yeah, shitty white food.
Definitely.
Yeah, of course.
Shitty cheese. There's actually very close to here. I don't know the name of it and I don't know if it's still open. so please yeah yeah more shitty white food yeah shitty white food definitely yeah of course shitty cheese
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I don't know the name of it
and I don't know
if it's still open
but there was
right before we moved here
there was this woman
opened a Chinese restaurant
she was a white lady
and she called it
this is a weird move
yeah but she goes
it's clean Chinese food
as in because
Chinese food has a lot of oil in it
that's what she meant
she goes
it's clean Chinese food
in the sense that
it's like clean in terms of dietary
and she got,
she was public enemy number one.
But I think it actually
might still be open.
I think I walked by it.
It's like around here.
Yeah.
Wow.
I think I saw that.
Yeah, yeah.
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Okay, one of the funny things
that like when me and Danny were talking about today
and first of all before that
because you're from Malaysia, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And you know what the best part
about being just any ethnicity is?
If you get really popular
and you go to a town
every like
I bet you you come to a place
where like every Malaysian person
within like a 300 fucking
like you know
it doesn't have to be
because white people
have it if they're Italian
like Sebastian Maniscalco
every Italian
in a fucking
100 mile radius
is coming to that show
Russell Peters
when he used to come
to Toronto
there isn't a single
brown person
that doesn't know
about that show happening
yeah
I think I have
a little bit of that
Malaysians come
hopefully other Asians too
some Filipinos
some Indonesians Koreans yeah my friend Jocelyn she has this big joke about how like Malaysia a little bit of that Malaysia's come hopefully other Asians too some Filipinos some Asians Koreans
yeah
my friend Jocelyn
she has this big joke
about how like
Malaysia
I won't say like
her punchlines or whatever
but the joke was
basically she's Malaysian
and she was kind of saying that
Malaysia was like
part of China
and then China
dumped Malaysia
and then now
Malaysia's doing good
is that
no I know that joke
I think she's talking about Singapore
Singapore used to be a part of Malaysia.
Then Malaysia dumped Singapore.
Malaysia dumped Singapore.
Yeah.
All right.
I think I've seen that joke online somewhere.
Okay.
So if I was really don't know from the basics.
Okay.
Why are there, is there a lot of Chinese people in Malaysia?
Yes.
Yes.
Ethnically 30%.
Are you Chinese?
Yeah, but it's mostly Muslim, right?
Yeah.
60% Muslim. 25% Chinese. I think 25, 30%. Are you Chinese? Yeah, but it's mostly Muslim, right? Yeah, 60% Muslim.
25% Chinese.
I think 25-30% Chinese.
Is that how...
So it's kind of how whatever...
I mean, we're Canadian here,
but there's a lot of...
That's...
So as most people...
Is Malaysian like an actual thing
where you would be in China
and be like,
no, I'm Malaysian
or is everyone in Malaysia
kind of Chinese?
No, if I go to China,
they view me as Malaysian.
You can't say you're Chinese.
You're not even from there
and the language,
the language is the same
but the way we use it,
the slang words are all different.
Yeah,
I don't know any Chinese shit, man.
Oh,
but they're the ones
that that's what you got in trouble
with the Chinese government.
Yes, yes.
Well, that's the,
that's a different,
yeah,
that's the government.
Yeah, yeah.
But I thought for some reason
when I was like,
I guess if i was
getting in trouble with like a government that i'm like not a part of you'd be like yeah who cares
but i thought that maybe there was sort of a connection or do you just have like a big huge
fan base there i i have chinese social media platform accounts you know right
what right yeah do you guys not have that yeah are you okay so you've had a few like cancellation things yeah
but the biggest one that i guess we would know about is that you basically uh the chinese
government was mad that you put someone on there that criticized them is that like the gist of it
i don't even think it was a chinese government i don't i think they're too busy minding their
own business you know i think it's just Chinese government. I think they're too busy minding their own business.
I think it's just the people on the Chinese social media platforms,
on their Twitter.
So for context for people who don't know,
I did a collab with this, I think, New York YouTuber, Mike Chen.
You know, nothing against that guy,
but I just didn't know he was such a vocal anti-China person.
So we did the video.
I thought, whatever, just put it on YouTube, all good and then i i got on a flight back to malaysia i got off the plane
my my phone started ringing from my chinese social media agents at the time they were like
you gotta take this video down because your your accounts are getting reported your chinese social
media accounts are getting oh so so it's actually the yeah it's just citizens who are yeah okay so
i was i was still new to chinese social media. So I was like,
oh yeah,
yeah,
okay,
handle it.
I was jet lagged.
I was so tired.
I just landed in Malaysia.
I had to quarantine
for seven days by myself
in Malaysia
in a hotel room.
So yeah,
just handle it,
just handle it.
So I let them handle it
and then this happened,
basically.
What happened
when they handled it?
So I took the video,
they told me
they took the video down.
I took the video down.
And then they wrote
a little status update
on the
yeah yeah yeah and then oh because they manage your social yeah yeah just posting as you
essentially yeah i i did have to approve it but you know you see these things you're like yeah
i post it whatever you're not posting a status update in text form you're like whatever right
you let them do it now or do you feel like you need to do them now now i don't know i'm with a different chinese social media agent now who's
based in the west so she has a better sense of these two things because when when all that
chinese shit was happening there was no not a single pr person who's well versed in both worlds
yeah what can i say on chinese social media platform that won't be twisted by the western
in america you have to hate your government. There, you have to love it.
Yeah.
And what was the,
what did he say
that was so,
like what's,
like he just has all the things
the government,
about the Chinese government,
like the CCP that.
He says a lot of stuff.
He says a lot of stuff, yeah.
I don't even know now.
When I work with him,
he was fine.
He was just a normal dude
and you believe whatever you want to believe, right?. When I worked with him, he was fine. He was just a normal dude.
And you believe whatever you want to believe, right?
So when I posted that stuff,
it turns out in China,
it's viewed that if you are seen working with someone,
they just assume you share the same political beliefs.
Do you think it's the same here where it's like, you know, everyone's whatever.
They're like, oh, this guy's sexist, racist.
You got to stay away.
That's the same as there where they go,
oh, this guy's like against the government. i should do a collab with tucker carlson
and see what no literally i was literally about to say if you go on you could be like some leftist
and if you go on tucker carlson a large group of people are like oh that guy i didn't know that guy
was right wing yeah true like that's just uh yeah but do you get do you get reported on social media? Yeah, because, well, I guess lots of people,
like if you did something here
where you said the N-word or something,
all the people would come and they'd try to report you.
But they'd go through old videos,
like essentially a mob of people.
But they're just trying to get you removed from the platform.
So it's the same there.
It feels like it, what you must have both
you know um epic meal time you know what that is yes so that guy harley was like he the guy from
that just posted i guess he's friends with sam hyde now okay and he posted some just a photo of
him and sam hyde and there were all these comments being like oh i didn't know you were alt right now
some people were getting mad at him just for posting a photo with a guy wow yeah very much a lot of guilt
by association stuff
so the status
they posted for me
to me it was just like
oh yeah whatever
you take a video
in China
to me it's just
oh yeah it's a stock
China thing
whatever just post it
but then
that statement in Mandarin
got translated
by Twitter
and it comes across
as if I'm apologizing on behalf of the Chinese government.
Oops.
So it seemed like you're shilling for the government.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'm like, dude, I just made a video about dumplings, man.
What is this?
It's like the most innocuous thing.
Yeah.
And at that point, I was first time getting canceled.
Do you think you should have just left it up and then it just would have blown over?
Do you think the movie?
Yeah.
I think, knowing what I know now,
being canceled a few times,
yeah, you just let it blow over.
Never apologize.
Never address it.
Unless you do something at a costly level.
If you feel like you should
or if you believe that you want to address it, yeah.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So now I'm never letting anybody else
touch my uh yeah social media because those people are just on to the next thing there's
always the next thing and then they just are go on to the they wait for their it is interesting
pound of flesh and then their pound of flesh that I guess you could see that here a little bit like
you know now that the depending on the government but it is interesting in China where it's like
they have a mob of people being like yo this guy is against the government, but it is interesting in China where it's like, they have a mob of people being like, yo, this guy is against the government.
Yeah.
They are.
There are bots out there.
And then,
I still get comments,
oh,
you are,
you're a Uyghur concentration camp denier.
Right.
You're a pro-CCP,
you know,
you're anti-human rights.
And that's because you,
because you basically,
when you said,
okay,
I'll take the video down at the time,
they interpreted that as like, yeah, no one talks shit.
I didn't know that he talked shit about the Chinese government.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They interpreted it as me kowtowing to the government.
Whereas you thought you were kowtowing to your fans, probably.
I just didn't want my accounts to get banned, man.
And the fans, too.
It is.
But yeah, I guess you have to deal with that in every other country.
I was new to the
Chinese social media space
I had no idea
how it works
I was two weeks into the account
I never log on
I mean my naivety
is like I honestly thought
when I read that about you
that it was
you know you get
a call from someone
who's like
I work at the government
we saw your post
not okay
like I didn't think
it was just people
I thought it was some guy
like you know
I liked that narrative too
Soviet style
can you update my Wikipedia
to say that
it is true
because you kind of like
well I don't know
you hear
that how much
like things are so wild
over there
you know journalists
disappear and all that stuff
but I did have that concern
I have relatives in China
that's what
I did
in that moment
because I was so in such
under so much attack every three four seconds twitter facebook tiktok instagram hate comment
hate comment my agents were getting blasted email inboxes were getting blasted yeah telling them you
should drop this guy whatever you know like that was the with the russia stuff there was uh there's
all these players in the nhl who are russian And some of them, people, like the moment Russia invaded, they're like, okay, you need to speak out.
You need to say this is bad.
And they're like, yeah, we have family in Russia.
What do you want us to do?
Our family lives in Russia.
Yeah, yeah, go out and be like, yo, Putin's a pussy.
Yeah, Putin's a pussy.
Like, fuck him.
And you go, yeah, and all your family disappears.
And also, I'm a comic.
And why do you expect me to speak out right
like apple doesn't speak out apple sells tons of iphones in china yeah they have factories there
they work with the government there like you know they don't live there yeah like it's not my
country i don't want to say shit about it you know yeah yeah yeah so yeah there's that no that's
episode that's a crazy one but I it is like
there is that part
where I go
to me it is a little scarier
you don't live there
so again I'd be less
but the family thing
where you go
yeah you're gonna get
in trouble here
but you know that
one thing that's not
gonna happen is
you're probably in America
your family's gonna get
put in jail
I'm going on tour there
yes I'm touring Taiwan
which is part of China
oh
hey
hey
hey you know it's all the things that's not well I say all the wrong Yes, I'm touring Taiwan, which is part of China. Oh!
He knows all the things to say.
Well, it will be soon, probably. Yeah, I'll clip it up and put it on my Chinese socials.
I'm also touring Hong Kong, China.
And Mongolia, China.
Oh, yeah, we're going to...
Africa, China.
New York, China. Yeah. They're comingork china yeah yeah they're coming here man they're coming here shit that was the first one so then what what happened after because you said there
was more there was a second cancellation right what was the other thing oh that's just a dumb
ukraine joke i tweeted oh you got so yeah yeah but i that at that point i was more well prepared
i know what to expect so i just I just addressed it on the podcast.
The podcast got a few more listens out of it.
So that was good.
But the Ukraine thing, I was in...
Did you do a heartfelt apology?
No.
I just basically said, I'm just making jokes, guys.
Fuck you guys.
Learn from the last one.
Don't let PR people tell you what to say.
Because I was doing some interviews for the tour, right?
Around the UK, I was just doing interviews.
And then all of a sudden, my PR guys suddenly started tagging along with me.
Because they knew.
I'm like, fuck you.
Let me just say whatever I want, man.
Right.
You're like your handlers.
Yeah.
Do you work with PR people?
I have in the past.
And I legitimately, the only thing I've worked with PR people
In the last little while
Was to like help set up and schedule things
If I'm doing like tours of things
So it's logistical but not
I'm not going to ask them what to say about anything
But I remember when I was younger
Some of the biggest mistakes I think I made
Was listening to PR people
I mean yeah
They're idiots
They just want to not get fired.
Yeah.
And we want to be funny.
Sometimes that clashes with each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I remember some interviews I did.
What was the Ukraine thing?
What did you say?
Oh, I just, the initial tweet was me saying that,
adding extra dates to Ukraine, guys, LOL.
Oh, my God, dude.
Something dumb like that.
And then just people on Twitter were like, People on Twitter, but then tabloids in Asia too. Malaysia, dude. Something dumb like that. And then just people on Twitter were like this.
People on Twitter, but then tabloids in Asia too.
Malaysia, Singapore.
My mom was calling me like,
Nigel, what'd you say this time?
What'd you say this time?
I'm a bad boy.
Mommy's smoking a cigarette.
Leather jacket.
Yeah, yeah.
Once you had the first cancellation,
it all changes.
They turned you over to the dark side.
The concept of in Malaysia,
if you
if you are somewhat known
they just view you
as a celebrity
right
they don't view you
as a comedian
or anything
so
yeah you're just
in the celebrity class
yeah
and I'm like
I'm not
I talk shit all the time
you know
and celebrities
they think of someone
like very bland
neutral
you know
they don't say shit
very much
mannequins
yeah
mannequins who wear Prada
because they're a spokesperson
for it
so they don't want to piss off
Prada. But I
mean no high street fashion brand
is sponsoring me so I'll say whatever
I want. That's the one thing that PR
people can be good for is like
legitimately when I had one the only thing
that I remember even back in the day I've not done this
recently but you go when I was like
25 I remember it used to
be like yo get me free clothes yo can
you get me into this like exclusive party like stuff it was just like straight up for fun you're
like yeah i want to bring a chick to this thing like can you get me tickets and then they're
they can pull those things off yes they can be good for that you can get like premiere movie
premieres yeah that's the only thing but when they go with you To I did a podcast
With a food critic
In London
And then the PR person
Wanted to come into
The interview with me
Just to kind of
Mind you
Just to make sure
You didn't
Yeah and that's crazy
They're going crazy
On the other side
Yeah but they're probably
You guys their thing
You're like
This guy's making
Our life a fucking nightmare
Yeah
And also as a comic
It's just such a
Pussy move isn't it
For sure
It's impossible
As a comic you can't do that No you lose, isn't it? For sure. It's impossible.
As a comic, you can't do that.
No, you lose all the respect from your peers, man,
to have a PR person just editing you in real time.
My God.
Especially now that you're on the internet,
talking all the time, saying your opinions.
That's why when big celebrities be like,
oh, I'll be a podcaster i'll be like a youtube guy usually unless their whole thing is uh you know get in shape like you can do it like
inspirational pump you up stuff yeah if it's anything in the opinion realm no one cares
because it's like all the pr person does is tell you the opinions that everyone already has so why
do i need to hear it now yeah you go yeah go, yeah, you're right. That's the opinion that everyone's saying.
Yeah, it's just really boring.
And if you, how do you put this?
The PR people, they want to,
they're just there to do their job, you know,
and try to not get you canceled.
Yeah.
But sometimes getting canceled, to me, is a tension.
And tension's good.
Absolutely.
As long as it's not a tension of
the CCP I guess but it
sounds like it wasn't
even that yeah it wasn't
that's so that's what
you should be aiming for
that should be the goal
is when like like
President Xi has to
make some sort of
statement about you
well I do have shows in
Taiwan coming out
yeah shows in China
coming out yeah
he's not gonna know you gotta go to the other way what oh say that pro taiwan
independence why would i side with the losers you know all right well all your shows in taiwan just
got canceled well because that's another thing with like you know china that me and like we we
hear all this stuff about what's going on with COVID there,
but only from American publications, really.
Oh, by the way, you guys.
Are they locked down there?
Shanghai is.
I sent you this.
I think, yeah.
Shanghai has.
I sent you just before this.
Just pretending you're Chinese.
That's fine.
It's close enough.
Who cares about Malaysia?
You can't get Ronnie Chang
to fill you in on that.
Shanghai,
they have the robot dogs.
Do you see that?
You know those like
the Boston Dynamics robot dogs?
Yeah,
you guys have that too though.
No,
they're in the streets
telling people,
they're walking around
the streets of Shanghai
telling everybody like
with a loudspeaker
being like,
wash your hands,
stay inside. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, apparently thespeaker being like, wash your hands, stay inside.
It's pretty crazy.
Yeah, apparently the dogs are going like,
don't leave your house.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay, I didn't know that.
And they can't be confirmed or denied.
This is either propaganda that you're saying.
No, no, no.
No, it's confirmed.
And there was this guy, he's an American,
who lives in Shanghai.
I messaged him because I had questions.
He's like, I'm not speaking about this.
But he had this whole tweet thing about how in shanghai because they have like this
they're locked down right now because they're like zero covid and so they're locked down it's like
you really cannot leave your house other than to get tested i think is the only thing is you can
leave to go get a covid test and he's like we've been locked up but so all the stores started
running out of food because you could get only get your food via delivery and so he's like we've been locked up but so all the stores started running out of food because you could get only get your food via delivery and so he's like at one point it was hard to get um an
appointment for a delivery but all the stores would show having food and he's like day 14 he's
like now the stores don't even show that they have any food and so then he's like i went to a liquor
store bought a bottle of liquor and he's like they sold the frozen steaks at the liquor store
so i was able to like get frozen steaks and then he's like they sold frozen steaks at the liquor store so I was able to like
get frozen steaks
and then he's like
and then I traded the liquor
like it becomes like
this weird barter
wow
of course the American
propaganda machine
would show you this
right
no it's just the guy
no it's just the guy though
it's not like
who's this guy
he's a lawyer
no no he's just a lawyer
he's
and people ask him
well why don't you move
and he's like
no no no
like this is my home
like I'm not
he's not even saying, fuck the government.
He's just being like, this is-
He's saying we got to get this food thing sorted out.
He's just like, the food thing's an issue, and this is what's going on.
But people are like, why don't you move?
And he's like, no, this is my home.
I don't want to move.
I've lived here for 30 years or something.
It's not even critical so much of the government.
And obviously, but he's just being like, stuff's kind of starting to crack.
The system's starting to crack a bit.
I think they'll figure it out.
Yeah.
You know, the worst things have happened to China before.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah, they'll figure it out.
With the, okay, so I have a, like, like a sketch that I would, I wanted to pitch to you that I've been doing.
Not to like do, but this is, to me, one of of the things and you could tell me if it's like
this with you but i want like the idea of uh like white like a white comedian telling his parents
he's going to be a comedian versus like an asian comedian telling his parents he wants to be a
comedian and it's just like having a like the white parents are like yeah i don't know go do
whatever the fuck you want the asian parents are like melting down like ah i can't my sons are comedian
the lowest of the low did you have that uh not that extreme but i get that sentiment yeah but
it wasn't your parents weren't like that no but they were worried though when i went full-time
comedy that was before uncle roger blew up so they weren't like don't do it they were more just like
yeah just keep your day job just do it on the side yeah you know Uncle Roger was the only thing
that made them laugh
because they finally
understand me
for once
it's true
because in Malaysia
the accents are stronger
so I speak
I've lived here a while now
so I speak
with quite a neutral accent
you know
this probably sounds
a bit different from yours
but it sounds quite neutral
to a Malaysian ear
and it's hard for them
to understand
but then the Uncle Roger
character came about
it's just talking about rice
with an accent
exaggerated accent
simple words
so that was the first time
I saw my parents laugh
and then they were like
oh okay
I think Nigel's doing okay
I think he can do this
yeah you were cooking
now you can buy them stuff
yeah I try
I send money back home
every month
like a faithful immigrant yeah but
then my mom keeps asking me for more money chill out really my best here yeah i do that that's
another one where i i say on stage i've been saying that like yeah like uh immigrants that
are white will send money home to their family like a white person would never in a million years
send money home that That's so crazy.
Yeah.
What do you guys do
with the extra money?
Just use it on yourself,
I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
I think a lot of times
I lose mine in the stock market.
If I have any extra,
I ask Danny for some stock picks.
That's generally what we do.
I think it would be weird
if you sent your parents money.
Would they receive it
in their Venmo?
It's like,
is everything okay?
Yeah, what are you sending me money for,
you weirdo?
What do they think of the woke shit
in like
fucking Singapore
and Malaysia
oh we don't give a shit
we are the most racist
people out there
seriously
Malaysia is Malay
Chinese Indian
the three main races
we shit on each other
all the time
we don't have that
woke concept
who's not racist
what culture is
they go yeah
we don't have a racist
bone in our body nobody here is racist it doesn't exist I guess in most places there's just one thing Who's not racist? What culture is, they go, yeah, we don't have a racist bone
in our body.
Nobody here is racist.
It doesn't exist.
I guess in most places
there's just one thing,
you know?
Where?
It's only really white countries
that are like,
that's crazy.
I know,
but no,
like Africa,
you go like,
Nigerians go,
what do you think about Kenyans?
They're like,
don't get me started on Kenyans.
They've got to use
like a paint swatch
to get racist.
Yeah.
No,
it's just once that fucking line
of their border shifts
and they go
those people on the other
side of this line
fuck that
or they find a religion
or something
anything
yeah
it's literally human nature
exactly
exactly
but you guys get a lot of shit
you know
you guys get so much shit
for shit I used to do
back home
we had it good
for too long
is that what yeah cause my i've had comic friends
that went to tour in like asia and they'll say that a lot of it is you know you want to do like
kind of race shit like that's almost a stuff i mean think about you know russell peters and a
lot of people that like have those huge audiences over there that's like a huge part of what you
talk about but it is interesting that because when like i imagine
there's comedy clubs in like malaysia like other comment like proper like clubs but they're they
must be fairly new yes right like there weren't any 30 years ago no no i think it was only in the
last 10 years like i went to paris uh seven years ago and they had a comedy club there and they go
this is this shit's brand new here. Like this Western style comedy,
this is brand new.
Yep.
Yep.
Performing in Europe too
is sometimes a pain, man.
They're all so quiet.
Yeah.
Why?
Are they like pretentious
Paris kind of people?
I think Americans
just love to cheer.
They're just waiting to,
waiting to cheer.
You know,
like I have a phrase like,
I have a,
Too hip.
Too polite, too hip, too proper. You've met a European. Yeah, You know, like I have a phrase like, I have a, Too hip. Too polite,
too hip,
too proper.
You've met a European.
Yeah,
too proper.
Too moderate.
Everything in moderation.
Well,
they like to look down their nose
at loud Americans.
Yes.
They know those loud,
dumb Americans.
Yeah.
Hooting and hollering.
Right,
exactly.
That's what I like,
man.
At a comedy show,
you want that.
Of course.
Of course.
In Britain,
the same thing too.
Like in the UK,
initially I wanted to film my special there.
And then I did my first show in Chicago.
I'm like, fuck that.
Cancel the video crew.
Do it here.
Do it in America.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I have a line in my set where I say,
give me a cheer if you were beat as a kid, right?
So in the UK, normally.
Some people cheer if you were beat as a kid.
Here, I say, give me a cheer.
Before I finish a sentence sentence people are like whoa whoa
just waiting
yeah
people are jazzed up
yeah
cheer
yes
my turn to shine
yeah
that's funny
yeah
I love American audiences man
yo
were you divorced
is that the thing
yes
how old are you actually
31
okay so that's young right
got divorced
got married young
got divorced
kids
no
thankfully
oh yeah
that would be a debacle
That's just a break
You broke up with your dad
Yeah, good person too
Didn't take half my shit
Is the YouTube
Is the fucking YouTube
Uncle Roger's groupies
Coming through?
Got a few here and there
And are the groupies
Demanding that when you smash
You do the character?
Only one Only one.
Only one so far.
Sometimes I get my name wrong
and call me Roger in bed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, fine.
Just demanding?
I don't know what your name is either.
So, you know.
And just like critiquing their boobs
with the voice.
You go,
you call this a boob?
I wish.
Pornhub just started following me on
instagram i don't even know i just saw that they follow me because i use their little
jingle in my videos all the time he did a funny thing that is so funny but he did a pretty funny
thing he goes uh he tagged them afterwards going uh yo can you guys give me a free subscription
then yeah and then they did right they haven't got back to me yet yes they're
waiting on the code
yeah but that that's
funny we have the same
like orange shade in
the logo and my my
polo shirt and I use
a little jingle you
know that yeah
yeah that's great they
like it you know do
people ever because the
you know do people ever
watch the videos I have
this a little bit that
people will see the
video stuff and then
they come to see your comedy show and they're like oh you're
just like a normal comic just like talks about whatever sex and all that shit and they're just
like what the hell i know this is gonna be more family where's the rice yes or just even more
like offensive too yeah i think okay well the videos themselves aren't super family friendly
you know i talk about i have a Capitol riot joke in one of the videos,
you know, little bits and pieces.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
Because you're kind of playing this like asshole character.
Yeah, I love it so much.
There are certain lines I deliver on stage
where it only works with Uncle Roger.
I just tried that line as myself.
People just go, ooh.
Basically, I say-
Because it's mean when you do it?
Yeah, exactly.
I just say any vegans in
people cheer
and Uncle Roger
oh it's alright
we accept people
with mental illness here
so that's what I say
and as Uncle Roger
that gets a huge laugh
because people know
the character
and I've said that
as myself before
people just go
ugh
you know they're laughing
like half the joke
is that he's an asshole
so we can make
all these fictional guys
an asshole
I know it's always
I always like
you're always like
sort of playing around
with is it the character
being an asshole
or is it like
I'm always kind of like
up to opinion
do I think this
maybe
you know what I mean
yeah you gotta be
a little more sensitive
not sensitive
what do you mean
that's it
people think
I actually think
what Uncle Roger thinks
well yeah
it's like creative
it's like you have to
give them the permission
to laugh
and if it's you being
an asshole
they're like
well I can't laugh
as an asshole
but then if it's a guy
that's like
oh we agree
this guy's bad
all of a sudden
they feel like
they have permission
to laugh at it
because people are
as much as they think
I mean you watch
with all the Will Smith stuff
how much people's opinions
will change completely
one day
versus what they're told
to think
so it's like you can tell people, audiences can say, people can go on the internet and
say whatever they want.
I think that you should laugh at this and I think you laugh at this.
But at the end of the day, you can trick all of their brains in two seconds.
They don't know what they're talking about.
Yeah, yeah.
So Uncle Roger is a good way to couch the meanness, the permission to laugh.
Yeah, exactly.
Well, the same people would say racism.
They'd be like, we don't like racist jokes.
But if someone goes, I was at a bar and this racist guy
or my uncle who's racist came through and said this and this and this.
And I was like, can you believe it?
It's like you're still saying all this stuff with punchlines.
The punchline was the racist part.
But the idea is like, but we think this is a bad guy
yeah
but it's the same
racist joke
you're trying to make
same joke
and we'll still laugh at it
but like
can you believe
that this guy said
this joke
that we all just laughed at
it's a little trick
yeah
I always think
if you do like
high status comedy
where you're like
kind of bullying people
the trick is to trigger
their laughter
before you trigger
their empathy
you know
that's how and giving them permission to laugh is one way their laughter before you trigger their empathy you know that's how
and giving them
permission to laugh
is one way to do it
you are right
that is what it is
high status comedy
and then on top of that
we need more of those
high status Asian comics man
I've seen so many
self-deprecating ones
and then it's like
a lot of
I get a lot of criticism
saying all these
characters
enforcing Asian stereotypes
which is
eh
and but you know you
can also at age i've also seen so many asian comics not do the accent yeah but put our people
down even more you know well that's i mean that's just a general comedy trick self-de like the
self-deprecation kind of yeah but i know what i know exactly what you mean because then it becomes
like when that becomes a there is like a stereotype about it with Asian people,
but also there is this other part where it's like,
once that becomes,
everyone's doing it,
it's,
you want to go the other way as well.
Yeah.
I want,
I want to,
you know,
shit on people.
Yeah.
Shit on white chefs.
That's,
that's what I do.
You know?
And,
and also,
also the people who,
there are people who just don't do accents at all in their act.
And it's like white people, me, I don't have accents at all in their act. White people.
Me, I don't have that.
I can't.
You can do other white people's accents.
I really can't.
I'm not saying I can't because I won't.
There is this attitude of on stage,
I know you don't do the Indian accent because it's rude.
And I'm like, I would if I could.
We have a friend of ours back in Toronto.
You're lucky.
To be honest, I guess I'm lucky that I'm not good at a friend of ours back in Toronto. You're lucky. Everyone's...
To be honest, I guess I'm lucky that I'm not good at accents
because I'd be out here.
So I was talking to this Nigerian today.
I would be abusing them.
We have a friend of ours in Toronto, a comedian.
Man of many accents?
And he does...
He's really good at accents.
He's a white ginger guy.
But he only does...
He'll do Boston accents, Irish accents.
The spiciest he gets is Jamaicanican and then we're like we're always like when we live there we'd be like do the forbidden accents
do the forbidden accents he's like no he's like i won't do it yeah why does everyone you meet just
happen to have a white accent i was at the airport and this guy i happen to be from chicago
oh yeah and we're like and he's good really good at accents we're like do the forbidden I was at the airport and this guy happened to be from Chicago.
Oh, yeah?
And he's really good at accents.
We're like, do the forbidden accents.
Never once have you met a retard.
That's what we're saying.
I was talking to this guy and he said,
turned out to be a retarded guy.
What would that sound like?
A retarded Chinese guy.
All right, okay, here we go.
He never wanted to do the retarded Chinese guy.
And the bus driver was a Scottish.
He honestly was.
We go, do the forbidden accents.
Just taking the jokes and making them so
acceptable. A Scottish
guy, a guy from Chicago, and a Bostonite
walk into a bar, and you're like,
what? And then this guy from Queens
shows up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So those are definitely the forbidden ones.
Yeah, yeah.
But no, I cannot do accents.
I can't even do like, I have like family with Irish accents,
and I can't do an Irish accent.
I can only do the Uncle Roger voice, man.
That's your only one?
I can learn for certain bits if I need a specific accent.
I'll just YouTube something, and I'll say one sentence yeah it's nice people think you try
you know so with uh and then with the youtube stuff we were talking about this a little before
though because it does it takes over so much running these like operations where you can't
it's very hard to like do the stand-up so what's your like what do you how did you like organize your fucking
like week now
where you go
how do you like
do it all
I don't man
you kind of don't
you stop doing stand up
as much
yeah I stop doing
stand up as much
and now when I'm touring
I'm doing stand up more
so I scale down the videos
a little bit
just two a month
and a podcast every week
but then the
Uncle Roger videos
two a month
they take a lot of work man
those videos
I have to do the research
the technical side of things then I have to video is two a month. They take a lot of work, man. Those videos, I have to do the research,
food research, the technical side of things,
then I have to write jokes with a comedian friend
and then we write together, put them all together,
then act in front of the camera and stuff.
So yeah, something has to give, man.
Otherwise you just burn out.
I've been having this problem a lot lately
where I was just like, where it's like,
there's never done, right?
Where you go, it never ends.
And I was like, that can't be like the way to do it.
I was like, I have to scale back.
And I've won the biggest ones.
I was like, okay, I'm not doing any more phone calls Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
I go, any phone calls have to be done Monday through Tuesday.
That was a big one that I decided on.
Phone calls and meetings.
Yeah.
That's good.
I think I need to stop doing cameos.
You do cameos? Yeah. That's a waste think I need to stop doing cameos you do cameos
yeah
it's a waste of time
well maybe not for you
you make so much money on it
it's nice pocket money though
you know
for very little work
yeah yeah
we were here
we had Alex Steiner
there's better ways
for you to make money
how much
you just need to charge
I'm not doing them
not doing them
okay that's good
I also like
our fans are animals too
like it would be 90%
people like getting us to just say horrendous also but like also to me that that is just a
time management thing as well where i'm like i know for a fact i can't like wake up and you go
you have 40 48 hours to go like make these three cameos i know that'll drive me mental what do you
mean as in like oh you have 48 hours left to make these or however long you get to do it no for the cameos
like waking up
and being like
this morning
I know that
I've been pitched this
the cameo
sends me an email
once a fucking
they go
dude it's so much money
and you go
okay even if it was
X amount of dollars
you go every morning
you wake up
and it's like
okay you have
four cameos
so it's like
okay what if I want to
write for a second
I gotta keep on my mind
okay before stand up
I always gotta know
that I gotta find time
To go into some room
And make these cameos
It would drive me nuts
Well that's a
You know
A bit much
To assume you're getting
Four a day
You know
A bit arrogant there
You know
Well I hope it's four a day
Because one a day
Would be worse
One would be worse
Where it's like
I gotta fucking
Make sure that I go
Find a quiet place
Dude Alex Stein Literally came in the other night And he banged Like this guy Comedian he was on our podcast one would be worse where it's like I gotta fucking make sure that I go find a quiet place
Alex Stein literally
came in the other night
and he banged
like this guy
comedian he was on
a podcast
and he banged
like we were having
a conversation
and mid conversation
he goes
oh I gotta do a cameo
and just like
in the middle of our conversation
just did a cameo
how many of these guys do it
I do two a week
really
that's it yeah
Uncle Roger's not
not as much of a hot commodity
as he thought
you don't have to set the price high enough that people don't bug you for it, yeah. Uncle Roger's not as much of a hot commodity as he thought.
You don't have to set the price high enough that people don't bug you for it.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
What are yours at right now?
Tinder's at $350.
That's not that crazy high.
Yeah, I need to up it more. I know what your numbers look like.
Asians are cheap, man.
Asians are cheap people.
I've set up a Patreon before for my old podcast.
Man, getting people to donate is fucking.
I know you guys listen to it.
But you do sponsorships.
That seems like the model.
Yeah, that's better.
That's better.
But really, you go, so, but you're also cheap if you're like, hey, you're selling out arenas
and you're like, let me, you know, do these cameos for 300 bucks.
I just don't get it.
I think it's just a habit thing.
I've had it turn on since I blew up and I just never turned it off. I just don't get it. I think it's just a habit thing. I've had it turn on since I blew up,
and I just never turned it off.
I'm just used to it now.
It's charging more than the Tinder swindler.
That's pretty good.
How am I going to get the Tinder swindler to charge?
No, the Tinder swindler wanted a G for fucking
if it was promotional,
and I think 250 for personal.
So yeah, maybe.
Oh, I don't do promotional ones.
Yeah, he's charging more than the swindler.
You'd be supporting every restaurant going.
Oh, no, no, no.
I have to go through my agents for that shit.
Oh, yeah, if you're listening, you want that.
Uncle Roger.
You got an MSG brand that you want.
Yeah.
I'm trying to come up with my own MSG brand.
Why not something else?
Someone must have approached you.
You know Mr. Beast has his own Beast Burger restaurants?
Yeah, yeah.
You must be almost in that realm where they go,
Am I?
I don't know. You must be close enough where someone goes, we're going to slap your face on something. We're taking this guy restaurants. Yeah, yeah. You must be like almost in that realm where they go, Am I? I don't know.
You must be close enough where someone goes,
we're going to slap your face on something.
We're taking this guy to the top, man.
We're his new PR agent.
Yes, please.
Maybe like a Panda Express something.
Maybe.
One day, one day.
Let me focus on my stand-up, man.
It's the Rob Dyrdek formula, dude.
That guy, Rob Dyrdek, he basically had these like wild deals
where it was like just every was just every skateboard they sell,
he just gets $5 from it.
Yeah.
And then it just popped where they just sold millions of those boards or whatever it was.
And you're not even involved in it.
Yeah, I have something like that in the works.
Yeah, he does.
He just doesn't want to say.
Yeah, what?
MSG?
No, it's some kind of food thing.
It's not finalized yet.
We can't really.
I would just say it's some kind of food thing. It's finalized yeah we can't really I would just say it's some kind of food thing
it's basically
a thing for uncles
that if you got caught
touching someone
they relocate you
they come in
no one be the best
this is what's
going to happen to him
is you're going to
do something with
the CCP
what's going to
happen to him
is we're going to
watch him lose this
thing in real time
as Ryan says this
no he's going to
he's going to say
the wrong thing
about the CCP
and the next video
is just going to be a different Asian guy being
Uncle Roger.
Something about Uncle Roger
seems different.
Why is his polo red now?
Instead of orange.
Yeah, and they don't say anything.
Go Gallagher.
You know how he...
So you know how he sold his act,
he licensed his act to his brother
and there was Gallagher too?
You should have just different Rogers,
different polos just...
And so you...
Send them out into the world.
You scale.
And then everywhere you have like...
You can have...
Put together some shitty Nanette fucking fringe show
where you're going out of the thing being like you know
I'm the victim
of the CCP
yeah
have a big
a big victim
you know complex
where you're sitting down
and you go
and that's what my mom
told me
I'd never be a comedian
and you know
just pause for a little bit
stuff where they don't
even need to be funny
and they do them
in every different language
like you have a
Vietnamese Roger
and people are so racist
that he's got like
a fat Asian guy
I don't even know
this thing.
Yeah,
you guys need to be
my business managers, man.
These are great ideas.
Yeah,
so you got
these guys.
These are free, man.
We're going to get
these guys name on
fucking Mandarin oranges.
Just everything.
CCP merch,
no,
but both sides.
In Asia,
I already do that
because they just take
my likeness and whack it on their product. Oh, they already do that Because they just take my likeness
And whack it on their product
Oh they just steal it
They just take it
Oh they don't even ask
It's as bad as they say it is
Over there
Where it's just like
Everyone steals everything
Yeah
It's fair game
How many channels
Have like just uploaded your videos
And made the money on them
A lot
But there's this
I'm one of them
There's this company I work with
Who just
They kind of
Find these duplicate videos
and they monetize
the videos for you
oh
they'll go do copyright claims
yeah
yeah
so they still monetize
the money
money comes to me
but you know
that's like
$500 a month
it's not that much
yeah
I never
I always get people
messaging me being like
you know
we could do this
blah blah
but I don't
you probably have it where people just steal your actual content but I feel like if someone like clips the podcast always get people messaging me being like you know we could do this blah blah but i don't you
probably have it where people just steal your actual content but i feel like if someone like
clips the podcast and talks about it or whatever i'm not gonna like claim the money off it seems
like unethical yeah no if i mean if they upload the whole thing in whole that's a big very different
or someone that's like taking your like patreon content and putting it up like those are different
things but someone that's yeah yeah like don't get the many ideas right now
yeah no you're saying they'll just take it maybe like punch in you know one percent so it's like
or zero different just so it's like not the exact or whatever and then just upload well that's a
tiktok their whole business model is that right like there's no but i mean there's no money to
be made on that but yeah you get 10 million views and get three bucks yeah you know what about uh
what about louis c. winning the Grammy?
Do you like Louis?
Yeah.
Who doesn't like Louis?
What comic doesn't like Louis?
You know what I was thinking?
There's a few.
Because I was thinking about this.
I probably get some hate.
Oh, well, it's been gold.
Is relation number three coming?
Oh, boo.
I'm so scared.
I was, yeah, after you've had the CCP after you
Which I guess you didn't actually technically
You're about to get cancelled by Jen Kirkman
Oops
Yeah but to me it was so funny that
It was like
A lot of people recently were like
Over the last three days or whatever
Were like posting a lot more about the Louis thing
You know even more than when it first happened Being like you know He shouldn't be winning like best days or whatever, we're like posting a lot more about the Louis thing, you know, even more than when it first happened being like,
you know,
he shouldn't be winning like best album or whatever.
Right.
And it was just like,
I got last night when I was sleeping,
I was thinking about,
it's,
it's interesting that it kind of shows how a lot of people think of comedy.
Cause they're like,
he shouldn't have won this.
He shouldn't have had the best album,
but it was,
that's how they think of comedy where you go,
well,
was it the best album or not?
Yeah. It's like, imagine someone like if you're doing think of comedy where you go, well, was it the best album or not? Yeah.
It's like, imagine someone like, if you're doing like a race and you go, hey, this person
was the fastest and they go, hey, you shouldn't say that.
And you go, well, were they?
You could say it was the best one and I didn't like it.
And I don't think we should give them an award.
But to say that it wasn't the best one.
I mean, first off, for something like artistic, there is no true.
It's not a race.
It's nobody had the best time. Like it's somewhat close. It's still subjective. Well, no, there is no true. It's not a race. Nobody had the best time.
It's somewhat close.
It's still subjective.
Well, no, that's not really.
Yeah, but that's not.
Ryan's point is, yeah, it's subjective, but they judge it on the merit of the art itself.
Of course.
Of course.
But yeah, all those people.
I mean, the worst thing is with the Oscars where they said in 2025, you have to check
all these boxes to be eligible to even be nominated in these categories, right?
You have to all these like race, disability,
and you go, okay,
so then there's no such thing as the best movie.
Either you were wrong about all these other ones
or just it's all nonsense.
Wow, is that real?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
For 2025 at the Oscars,
you have to have all these,
and if you don't meet the certain like diversity,
like diversity and like all these things.
You had to have been to Epstein's Island.
If you don't meet them, you just can't be nominated.
Wow.
Yeah.
Crazy.
In the UK, a lot of people complain about the same thing,
like diversity checkboxes.
And we have a big TV show, Life at the Apollo, the stand-up show.
And I haven't been on it, so I'm neutral on this.
But because of all this
like check boxes
and stuff
and diversity thing
like when I see
a white guy on there
I know it's gonna be good
yeah of course
yeah of course
fought against all odds
I'm like holy shit
you are two out of the
30 people
yeah
I know you're good
yeah even though
they're probably like
50% of all the comedians
yeah I know
but it's kind of had
the opposite effect.
All this quote, I think, now I see a white guy, I'm like, hey, I'm watching him.
You know?
Because I know that he's going to crush it.
You had to fight the power to get through.
Unless they're old.
If they're old, you know that they could have been grandfathered in from the old days.
Like if you're watching a thing and it's a TV show and the one white guy is like 55,
you go, oh, he's been in the system
they can't get rid of that guy
and it's also tricky
for me too and when because
on the flip side if I think like this I'm sure a lot of people
think like this as well right so when I get
put on British panel shows there
I don't want people to think I'm there because I check
a box you know our friend Andre
yeah you're there because you're yeah that is funny
someone being like even if even if uh even if they saw the other one where it's like hey oh this guy's
just here because he checks a box he's like no i'm here because i'm 10 times more popular than
anyone on this panel for starters and i'm a good comic but if you were gonna say something bad
about me it's because i'm that yeah like if you're gonna think i don't belong here that would be the
reason our friend our friend is an as comic, and I was talking to him.
He had just done a Just for Laughs thing.
And he honestly said the exact same thing, where he's like, I don't know.
They devalue it.
Well, no, but he straight up says, he's like, I don't know if, like, I feel like part of the reason why I was here is just because I'm Asian.
Like, you know, he's kind of like, he's like, he kind of felt, like, bad of it.
He goes, yeah.
I mean, you take what you can get.
I mean, it is what it is. Obviously. Yeah, like, it's never the, obviously a person, if you're joining anything, it's like he kind of felt like bad of it he goes yeah i mean you take what you can get i mean of course obviously yeah like it's never the obviously a person if you're joining anything it's
like yes do like and the corollary to that is that you know 30 years ago like the reason for this
whole like over correction or whatever is because 30 years ago there were just a bunch of crappy
white guys who were there just like and they were yes but i've always it's even the same thing the
other way right now and we've talked about this
but it's like
when they're like
oh we need more black guys
right
it's like
what they mean is a very
specific type of black guy
it's never
there's this huge amount
of like
you know
hood
this whole huge
hood comic scene
like T.I.
is a very popular comic
I don't know if you're
familiar with him
he used to be a rapper
but yeah
so that's who they put on
but do you
I don't know if you guys
know that but T.I. is a do you I don't know if you guys know
but T.I. is a comedian now
I didn't know that
I saw
I saw the video of him
at the thing
I didn't know that was
because I thought he was in the audience
so T.I. the rapper
is a comedian now
and
is he good
is he good
no
obviously not
you knew the answer
I don't know
he could be secretly grafting
you know
trying on material
between songs that's true but to me well he had a big... Trying on material between songs.
That's true.
But to me, well, he had a big problem with Godfrey because apparently he dropped on the show and didn't hour.
I don't know.
There was some whole controversy
that a lot of people have talked about already with Godfrey.
But the...
So now he has another one where he was basically on stage
and then some girl who was hosting the show goes, oh, T.I., give it up for him.
He's got two sex assault allegations with his wife or whatever.
And then T.I. comes up.
He goes, nobody ever fucking dis.
You know, some version of that.
I saw that.
Yeah, I saw that video.
I thought he was in the audience.
But then I was like, it was like a bar.
He just did a set.
Yeah.
But it's like a.
Yeah, it's like a bar gig He just did his set Yeah but it was like Yeah it was like a legit
Like bar gig in Atlanta
He's bopping around
Like popping into like
Bar gigs in Atlanta and shit
Wow you gotta have a
I mean if you have
Like any sexual assault cases
You better have jokes for those
You know
You know people are gonna
Bring it up
Like Jimmy Carr probably has
Like deflection jokes
About his tax evasion scandal
Yeah
I have jokes about
My CCP cancellation
Oh I just got John Cena You know about his tax evasion scandal. Yeah. I have jokes about my CCP cancellation.
Oh, I just got John Cena'd, you know.
You gotta have jokes about that. I don't think, yeah,
if I was like currently being accused
of like double rape,
yeah, that's like a tough one to bring up.
But you know what?
But he would be like,
it's actually a single rape,
say two times.
Yeah.
So I mean, whatever.
She was, you know, and I knew, I'm sure that my point isn't like pro this chick. he would be like it's actually a single rave same two times yeah so i mean whatever she was
you know and i knew i'm sure that my point isn't like pro this chick like she was like
the cameras are rolling i'm gonna get this like you know viral moment of me calling ti out for
some shit right yeah but regardless of all that like this guy has not been doing comedy in long
enough to like handle this you know what what I mean? Dude, he's,
he's on stage and he's just like,
he,
he,
at one point he gives the girl a hug and he,
you know,
he's saying shit in her ear. Cause he's like,
you know that I can't fight you,
but he's,
he's whispering in her ear,
some version of like,
yo,
you better fucking knock this off.
Yeah.
And then he sits on the stage.
And then he sits on the stage.
It's,
but the whole thing is a bizarre.
It makes more sense.
Like to me,
I, cause I saw you, like I said, like, yeah, if he was there, but you're like, he was on the stage. The whole thing is a bazaar. It makes more sense to me, because I saw you, like I said,
yeah, if he was there, but he was on the show and he's doing that?
Right.
He is not going to get asked back to that show.
No.
No.
I just don't think that, and I feel like, I guess,
if T.I. is a comic now, I don't like to trash comics too much,
but he does just strike me as not a funny guy.
trash comics too much,
but he does just strike me as like not a funny guy.
Like,
did you have the whole thing
where he's,
he had his daughter's hymen
checked by her,
the doctor?
Wasn't that,
wasn't that a big thing
with him where he goes,
he goes every year,
I have my like doctor
check my daughter's hymen
to make sure it hasn't
been broken.
Something like that.
That might've been him.
Yeah.
So it was a weird dude.
As rings a bell,
might be him.
Yeah.
Someone that was funny would not be able to say that without like, it was funny weird dude as rings a bell might be him yeah someone that was funny
would not be able to say that
without like
kind of going
it was funny
you know when you be
checking those hammonds
he just doesn't
certain people just have
like funniness
in their like bones
or something
and he just really feels like
he's
I feel like he's not
a naturally funny person
and I feel like on top of that
he takes himself
very seriously
which is maybe the two
like worst combination
and then on top of that,
to be famous trying to start comedy,
it's like the worst combination.
Maybe wait till those rape charges
have been cleared up too.
Just so you can be like,
allegedly.
Well, apparently they are cleared up.
That's what he did say.
Oh, they are.
Well then, that's unfair.
He's saying, he goes,
I've never been charged.
I ain't going gonna be charged because that
is false whatever right yeah wow i didn't know well then i'm on his side though yeah she did
him wrong i need to check out this clip yeah but he uh like yeah it's a weird one where you go i
don't think anyone's really the good guy here no it's just like a weird event but like my point is
i don't think they were going to be talking about this in three
years being like fuck that ti guy fucking that new special do you see that new ti special
body damn i wish i wrote that that's all i'll tell you that right there is a oh damn i wish i
wrote that well the diversity part that was one of my other sketches is i wanted to do a thing because i feel like what used to drive my friends in toronto like would bother them and i used to be
i used to see this is because it's like it's not just that you know it's annoying for white people
it's that it also is like this narrative where let's just say you're like some indian dude
and you go you're like kind of popping and you're really funny and they bring you up and you're just like yeah i just want to do
a show about like me and my friends open a bar and they're like yeah but and your indian parents
wouldn't let you like yeah they want you to fill this like like you if you just if you were pitching
shows i bet you if you had your show was some version of like uh you know, we, well, we like started a, you know, we work at a
bank, you know what I mean?
To be like, but like the Asian, like.
In an Asian bank?
Yeah, an Asian bank.
Right?
I don't know.
Am I?
No, no, that definitely is a lot of that.
Yeah, of course.
And it's a lot of people who are just trying to save their jobs because they're, you know,
it's some person who's just like, yeah, I've been in development forever and then now i'm getting in trouble for all the stuff i used to do like approve so
then now they're like okay we got to really like change it up now yeah you definitely have to fit
a certain mole of minority too you know in in the uk i can think of like they like the very
middle class educated like that's the minority that's a favorite type. Yeah, yeah. And then, again...
A little snarky.
A little snarky.
Not too funny.
Not too funny.
I don't want it too funny
because it's unbecoming to laugh so much.
Yeah.
They like it from the highest Indian cast.
Yeah.
What's the highest one?
The Brahmin people?
Yeah, I think... No. Is the Brahmins high or low? I think high, high. Yeah. The highest Indian cast Yeah What's the highest one The Brahmin people Yeah it is
I think
No
Is the Brahmins high or low
I think high
Yeah
You're right
I think it was
No you're right
That's what it was
The Brahmins
He's a Patel
A measly Patel
They want the Brahmin comedy
You know
They don't want anyone
Lower than that
You're right
It is kind of that
With my shit
Where I just shit on people,
that's not what they're looking for.
That's gutter.
Yeah.
But you probably do.
You're like, what are you, some sort of immigrant?
But you do more numbers than probably a show that's on TV.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's very...
I don't mind at all.
You're lost.
That's very Patel of you to think that numbers matter.
And it's freed up this whole
online
anything that's funny
gets shared
you know
so it's
you know
TV can keep doing
their like
quaint little TV thing
you know
that's funny
I just keep
oh your cute little TV thing
plus another thing
if you put an Asian character
on TV
you know
like
white people are gonna
fuck it up
they're gonna fuck with it
and they're gonna tell me what to say and if you work with like white people are gonna fuck it up they're gonna fuck with it and they're just gonna
tell me what to say
and if you work with
like white producers
oh that would
fucking stink
and then
one reason I do
this Uncle Roger character
I have all this control
over you know
my own jokes
my own culture
my own people
but then when they
start to mold it
what pain does
Uncle Roger feel
is there any
racist incidences towards Uncle Roger?
Do you want to explore that?
Do you want to explore what Uncle Roger's drama is?
Yeah.
Why did he become like this?
Shut the fuck up.
Has he been caught off a COVID hate crime?
Has Uncle Roger dealt with COVID hate?
I was punched in London, man.
I talk about it on my set.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We have hate crime over there too.
Yeah, yeah.
But only you guys get the bad rap.
Oh, it's black guys here.
What?
Black guys doing the Asian punching.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, I was punched
And it's us doing the black guy.
No.
I don't have the balls for that.
Yeah, but it's material now.
Why did you get punched?
Nobody can prove intention right?
But we think it's
We all think it's COVID
Dropped a few N-bombs
After a couple of sockies
Was it a rival
MSG manufacturer?
Your MSG sucks dude
The Jamie Oliver fan maybe
Yeah
See there's a message
From the CCP
Is what it sounds like to me
Oh
They're hiring black people
To punch Asians now That sounds like a message From the CCP is what it sounds like to me. Oh, they're hiring black people to punch Asians now.
That sounds like a message
from the CCP
if I've ever heard one.
Yeah, true.
But you think it was
after COVID happened?
Sorry?
It was after COVID?
It's the height of COVID.
I think it was November 2020.
Oh, okay.
And you were just walking?
Yeah, I was walking, man.
Yeah.
And someone just came and punched you?
Yeah, just hopped off a bike
and punched me.
Like a gang initiation
type of thing, you think?
I don't know, man.
I mean, are you in a gang now?
I would like to be.
No, he doesn't get initiated.
They got a punch to be initiated.
Oh, I thought they were initiating him to go, hey, you're in this gang.
No, apparently.
I didn't want to be in a gang.
Like apparently a lot of that stuff where you just see someone like knock someone out
out of the cold.
It's kind of like a gang initiation thing.
That's the face slashing.
At least that's what happened in one of the cop shows that I watched.
People get their face slashed here a lot in New York.
Really?
Yeah, they just cut you with your face.
Peaky blinders.
Peaky blinder style kind of.
Gang initiation.
Kevin Brandon, our friend, said that's what it was.
He got his face slashed.
And there's two comics in the city who had their face slashed.
It's wild.
It's crazy.
Wow, okay.
I don't want any of that.
Yeah, take the cabs over. Yeah, I do that. I do that. slushed it's wild it's crazy wow okay yeah i don't want any of that yeah take it over yeah
take the cabs over yeah i do that i do that i heard too too much news of uh asians getting
pushed in front of trains and stuff i know you know i mean not just because they're the smallest
that's not like they would yeah they know it's all women though and it's all it's all they would
rather push a big black guy it's just like like logistically. It's like you're like, oh, why do you want to push them?
And you go, want to?
Yeah.
I have to.
It's the easiest.
I mean, there's no children out at three in the morning.
I'd love to push that Viking over there onto the subway,
but it just ain't happening, pal.
What was the funniest things where people tried to like change,
like when you're having those meetings
and people try to fuck with the Mr. Rogers thing
and get involved?
Have you had any wild ones
where you were going to maybe do something with them
and the advice you got from the industry
was just so crazy?
What did I get?
I just mainly don't get the meeting, really.
But when people,
sometimes we, comedians there, they do the fringe or they do the hour, they work with directors. But when people Sometimes we
Comedians there
Do the fringe
Or do the hour
They work with directors
You know
And it's just
Again
The lamest fucking thing
As a comic
You're like
This is so lame
But we had a buddy
Who did a
Like a big fringe show
And our other buddy
Directed it
And it like
Did really really well
Right
But it was definitely
A one man show
And it was a one man show Who is this I probably know him a one-man show. And it was a one-man show.
Who is this?
I probably know him.
Did it at the Fringe?
No, this isn't true.
No, it's true.
Are you going to name him?
I just don't know if what I'm saying is positive.
Oh, okay.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Okay, okay.
Don't name it then.
Don't name it.
Yeah.
You said it did really well.
So I thought it was going to be a nice part.
Well, my point was more that like,
so I get the director sort of helped at the beginning.
And then when after I've been going for a year and a half, I'm like, what the fuck is
the director doing?
Totally, I know.
What are you doing now?
Are you still directing?
He goes, hey, the music just started.
Anyways, I'll see you afterwards.
What the fuck is he doing now?
Like, I get at the the beginning You're kind of like
Yeah you direct
You give direction
During the rehearsal
Yeah you're like
Hey you're standing there
Like what have you
Stood there
Yeah
Yeah actually
He needs to be bigger
But like
If you work with people
Like that
They just tell you
Oh you need to be more
Like raw and honest
And authentic
And if you
You're like I'm doing
A character
Yeah if you see
An Edinburgh show
Description with the word explore
and identity
and raw unflinching
the word unflinching
I don't want to see it
I don't want to see it
there are shows there I watch the show
I'm like oh I see like 4 star
5 stars whatever I see the show I'm like
oh boy they never took into account
how little laughs they get.
This is really boring, man.
Unflinching honesty.
Yeah,
unflinching raw look
at being,
I don't know.
Being a pansexual,
you know,
transvestite,
four-year-old.
So you get a lot of that
and I think some of that
is coming over here.
The one-man show type shows are coming over here The one man show type shows
Are coming over here
Yeah
Four year old trans the musical
How about this
Okay this is my pitch for you
It's a show about a four year old
Transitioning into a girl
Okay
And then
And then he's like
You know
And the big song comes out
And it's like
Chop the cock
You gotta chop
And then you come out
In like sort of a butcher's outfit
And you have like big machetes And then you come out in like sort of a butcher's outfit and you have like big
machetes and then you're chinese cleaver please you sort of do a choppy thing
and then and the lights go dim and then it comes back on he goes i'm a girl now
yeah yeah i'm just a girl in the city
and it's four right and then you go back into uncle roger and then you're like going to a Yeah, yeah. B, I'm just a girl in the city.
And it's four, right?
And then you go back into Uncle Roger,
and then you're going to a pedophile thing where you're just like, hey, little girl.
Uncle Roger wants something to say to you.
Because it's different being a girl.
And then they transition back.
Yeah, they de-transition,
and that's when the show gets canceled.
Yes. They de-transition, but then you have to come back with like,
sort of like a top tier, like Asian super glue to sort of put the...
Am I hot or cold?
I think that's legs.
Can we clip this and send it to your agent?
It does have legs, but it doesn't have a dick.
Can you pitch it to BBC for us?
Hey, pitch to BBC. Are you doing stuff with agent? It does have legs, but it doesn't have a dick. Can you pitch it to BBC for us? Hey, pitch it to BBC.
Are you doing stuff with BBC?
Because we have CBC in Canada.
I've done a couple things, you know, but it's kind of pointless.
It's so geographically locked, you know.
You can watch it online later, but then if you're outside the UK,
you can't really watch it unless it's a VPN.
Oh, that's true.
It's China all over again, you know.
It really is, though.
It's like government propaganda all over again. It really is though. It's like government propaganda
all over again. We're protecting our people.
We don't want you to watch it. We also came
from a communist country, Canada.
We're all the same.
Our heritage is a communist
country called Canada. I don't know if you've heard
about dictator Justin Trudeau.
They pay tax dollars
to filter in legitimate
probably more propaganda than the most aggressive they pay tax dollars to filter in like legitimate, like more,
probably more propaganda than the most aggressive,
you know,
politicized TV network here.
Oh,
absolutely.
Which I always say,
I don't,
I do believe if you want to start a network,
you should be able to do whatever you want,
but I shouldn't have to pay for it.
That's the crazy part.
The government's doing it.
And we say it's for the,
they say it's as like a cultural,
they say we're trying to protect our-
But they hate Canadian culture.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well,
the sad thing is
when Western countries do that,
they don't see it as propaganda.
But when Asian countries
do that kind of thing,
like state-funded TV,
oh, it just is labeled.
We just get labeled,
oh, it's propaganda.
Be careful.
Well, now they like Russia.
Now they think it's
with Russia
but you're
right Western
yeah
well
yeah
it's such
a double standard
the biggest
hypocrite
fucking
West
yeah
and also
I realized
like China
is such a
hot button
topic on the
internet man
it is right now
yeah
especially
it's
you get so
many bots and haters coming at you
calling you like they call it a 50 cent army because apparently in china they will hire people
for 50 cents and reply to anti-china comments saying how good come on oh yeah so it's not bots
it's like actual it could yeah yeah it could be it could be like it could be people they were saying
for the cambridge analytica stuff with all the election that like it was actually these centers in russia that were just full of actual people who were just yeah like just
well i always find it funny when they try to show the whenever something happens and then there's
like they take the tweets of hey here's 25 accounts saying the exact same wording right
but that's my youtube comments really ccp pig bootlicker really Really? Yeah. All the same comments.
Different accounts
saying the same exact comments.
And who does that come from?
Random people.
They never have
their profile photos
and their avatar.
It's always a picture
of an anime character
or something.
Do you ever respond?
No.
You're actually a bootlicker.
I don't unfortunately
but I should.
I should.
Let's see what they come back with.
Would you ever do
Uncle Roger's roast
To CCP
Do you have the guts
That's the real question
Does he have the guts
No you should do
Just to really fuck with him
Is do a thing
Where you
Uncle Roger
Just watches Winnie the Pooh
And you just love it
There's no even joke
You just watch Winnie the Pooh
And you go
This is the best
Oh just to
Drive them nuts
Yeah they call she
Winnie the Pooh
Yeah they
Winnie the Pooh is bad In China Because the president Some people make fun of him Saying the they call Xi Winnie the Pooh yeah they yeah Winnie the Pooh is bad in China
because the president
some people make fun of him
saying the president
looks like Winnie the Pooh
oh I guess it would be
the opposite
then you'd have to hate
Winnie the Pooh
for the bootlicker
I think it's too complicated
they're not that smart people
so he likes the trans idea better
yeah
the trans boy
the trans
and they bring out
the butcher knife
the butcher knife
is off Broadway it is crazy to think though
that there is just you know some you know i guess it would what be like a like is it almost like a
sweatshop and they just all have like crappy lap like ibm like laptops from 2001 and then they're
just like non-stop reposting you know the propaganda yeah i guess right it's employment opportunity i want
to talk to someone who's worked at one of those though where they go yeah i used to work at one
of those places like how is there not like a whistleblower because they disappear yeah
because yeah all right did you blow that whistle and you alert they could make jack
ma disappeared for a month yeah So what happened with Jack Ma?
What happened when they made him disappear?
They always come back-
Because he came back and he goes,
no, I was just on vacation.
On that vacation, I realized China fucking rules.
He goes, I'm sorry.
I'm better now.
They come back a lot less, what do you call it?
Mouthy.
Yeah, a lot less mouthy, wearing a sweater.
Yeah, he was a little disheveled.
Yeah.
Where do you think he actually goes
when that happens?
I just think they,
I don't know.
I probably have people
stationed outside his house.
Yeah, yeah.
That kind of thing.
So he's not anywhere.
No, they're not taking him
like the edge.
He's missing,
but he wasn't missing.
They just surrounded him,
you think?
Yeah.
And they probably
kind of scared some...
I'm picturing them
bringing him to an island more. Scared some sense into into him don't you think you need a little bit of
that in your country too people like imagine people always complain like billionaires have
too much money inequality so if some billionaire mouths off too much make them disappear for a
month or they can't tweet no because the government is so in bed with these billionaires that like to
me that's worse i to me the china system well the re with these billionaires that to me that's worse.
Rather than a China system.
Well, the renegade billionaires I'm like, I like.
Okay. Like, yeah, I don't like the billionaires that necessarily are like completely in bed with like the fucking deep state to like undermine society.
You know what I mean?
Whereas like the renegade like billionaires that can't be controlled,
those are the ones that I would not want them to have bad things happen to.
Yeah, those are the ones that they're most worried about in China, right?
Yeah, it would be the wrong picks.
So yeah, you go, maybe there's some billionaires that could use a little talking to.
Like Bill Gates.
If the family has something to say to you, but it'd be the wrong billionaires.
Yeah, it wouldn't be Bill Gates getting to talking to.
It would be...
Who's a renegade billionaire, you think?
I guess most ones, Elon Musk, probably.
Who knows the extent to which he's actually a renegade?
I think he probably is.
I believe it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, think...
So he's the guy that would be getting taken to the island, and he came back, he goes,
buying Twitter's a bad idea.
Yeah.
I think, right?
Those fossil fuels are sick.
Yeah.
Fracking.
Yeah, let's get all that oil out.
I don't...
I think so right
So that's why
I guess all it takes is
A few billionaires to go missing
For the rest of them to get in line
So then you have every billionaire
Instead of right now
To some degree you have
The free market and certain
You know the Peter Thiel's of the world
He wants a smaller government
He's not for let's expand this government But all it takes know, the Peter Thiel's of the world. You know what? He wants a smaller government. He's not for let's expand this government.
But all it takes is a few Peter Thiel's to go missing
where every probably billionaire.
That's what happens in Russia, kind of.
Yeah.
Every billionaire.
Some of the oligarchs before this stuff, they would kind of.
Well, they sort of shut up and have fun on their boats now.
Step out of line.
I think if that was me,
if I was like a billionaire that was doing all this stuff
and I'm going to change the world,
then they start, you know, kill off three of my friends.
I go, hey, maybe it's time for a cruise on my yacht.
International waters.
I guess that's the other thing.
What would it be really like?
Why doesn't if I was Jack Ma, to me, the move would be like, get out, never come back.
However, I guess the problem is all his money in his company.
You can't get it out.
Yeah, exactly.
Like it's all intertwined with the government.
So you're screwed. Damned if you do, damned if you can't get it out. Yeah, exactly. It's all intertwined with the government. So you're screwed.
Damned if you do,
damned if you don't.
What if he,
because you can't sell your business,
put it in diamonds,
shove them up your ass
and get to America, I guess.
No, I don't know.
Taking money out of China
is the most difficult thing.
Yeah, it's super difficult.
I make some AdSense revenue
from my Chinese social media platforms.
You can't get them,
you have trouble getting them out?
It's like layers upon layers
of bureaucracy.
In the end,
I just had to have someone I work with
who has a China bank account.
And then we just decided,
okay, let's just offset that against your retainer.
So I can't physically even get the money.
It's a lot of paperwork.
So when you go to do tours there...
A thousand dollars, you know,
compared to Jack Ma's fortune.
Oh, for sure.
And yeah yeah the government
they ban crypto
there too right
so you can't even be like
just send me bitcoin
like they can't even
oh yeah
I forgot about that
so yeah
so when I tour there
I don't know
I'll do it for free
for my people
I'll do it for free
I think China's been
shat on by the west
for too long
so I'm here to
I'm here to perform
for you guys
for free
I guess to some degree
you can't just get your money
out here without the government
at least taking like
a pretty big share
like anything you get
you can't just like
cash in your stuff
without paying like
crazy taxes
and stuff like that
but it's not
yeah but you can do it
but it's almost like
being in one of those countries
is like playing at a casino
that the money's only good
in the casino
that you win
it's Disney dollars Disney dollars dollars or you go yeah you're
the king of fucking disney but if you we can put you on a time out and if you try to go spend these
disney dollars at that uh whale world or whatever that's what we call his mom's house
all right well okay we're gonna wrap up uh in a second here but thanks for coming on
but anything else
fucking
anything else on your mind
that we wanna talk about
anybody else you wanna shit on
we wanna hear it
yeah
who do we hate
no I think I'm good
I think we shut on everything
well I thought it was
I think
the Grammy for Louis C.K.
you know I see why people are upset
but you know
no he doesn't
at least they didn't give it to Dave Chappelle.
That would have caused even more uproar,
wouldn't it?
I don't know.
Well, how about this?
That's a good question.
I say we put Louis C.K. as chef number two
in the Butcher musical.
Does he still live here?
Is he still bass here?
Is he back in Europe all the time now
right
yeah he's here now
his girlfriend lives in Paris
he's back and forth
he tours like crazy
a lot of our friends
tour with him
yeah
I know a few people
that was one of the ones
that was just like
how much fake bullshit
there is in the news
where when the Ukraine
thing happening
he had a show there
and all these people
were like
oh Louis CK
still doing his show
in like the Ukraine and our friend still doing his show and like the ukraine and
our friend was like on tour being like no that uh not happening and nor was it ever like it was the
minute this happened it was like yeah obviously shows like it was just there's no even point
where we thought maybe the whole thing was just one big lie well it's because the ticket well
yeah the ticketing site that was selling the tickets just was like still selling tickets
hadn't taken them down yet in't taken them down yet.
Yeah, hadn't taken them down yet.
So people were like, I guess.
Yeah, but everyone was kind of like, no, that didn't happen.
But I mean, listen, if you were planning on going to Louis C.K. tonight
and fucking, they're like, hey, there's like a war that just started.
A bomb.
And you're like, oh, you go, maybe.
I doubt you're going to still try to buy the tickets.
If anything, you try to sell the tickets.
You go, worse comes to worse.
It does happen.
We don't want to go and we get screwed.
Hey, it's a Grammy winning show. So some people were braving it at the time. the tickets if anything you try to sell the tickets you go worse comes to worse it does happen we don't want to go and we get screwed
hey it's a Grammy
Grammy winning show
so
Grammy nominated at the time
oh yes
okay
but yeah
now Grammy winning
well it was cool
hang in dude
I'm going to try to come
to one of your shows
yeah if you want
can I plug my shows here
of course
oh dude I think
but this is going to come out
after your shows
unfortunately
I go one more in October
oh yeah
yeah definitely yeah
so
this comes after
my first run of New York shows
but I have another
New York show coming up
October 20th
at New York Town Hall
so buy tickets to that
cool
yeah definitely come through that
dude
fuck yeah brother
and then
yeah obviously
people know where to find you
what was your Instagram again
Mr. Nigel Ung
yeah
hell yeah bro
you can find it there
M-R-N-I-G-E-L-N-G
alright thanks dog
appreciate it
of course
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