The Boyscast with Ryan Long - P Diddy's Male Escort Tells Us How to Stay Hard While Diddy is Yelling at You

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

The Punisher (Sharay Hayes) joins the boys in studio to discuss the Diddy Trial, Masculinity, and the secrets of Women men don’t know about SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Me Undies - Go to https://meundies.c...om/boyscast and use code BOYSCAST to get up to 50% off Fitbod - go to https://fitbod.me/boyscast to get 25% off your subscription SUPPORT THE BOYS PATREON.COM/THEBOYSCAST  RYAN ON TOUR: San Diego: June 20-22, Tulsa: July 31-Aug2, Appleton: Sept 19/20 Columbus: Sept 26, Cincinnati: Sept 27, Cleveland: Sept 28, Baltimore: oct 3-5 ryanlongcomedy.com dannycomedy.com SUPPORT THE BOYSCAST:  https://www.patreon.com/theboyscast http://ryanlongcomedy.com Ryan @ryanlongcomedy To advertise on this podcast please email: ad-sales@libsyn.com    Or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/BOYSCAST

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Starting point is 00:00:00 As some of you know, I've been the primary and most revered journalist following the Diddy case with an extremely objective eye. Through my viral sketches, interviews with the prosecution, and our deep research on this very podcast, I've made objectivity and journalistic integrity my goal. But today, it is time for the most important interview in the history of the boys cast. Sharae Hayes, aka The Punisher, is a male stripper and escort that was hired for P. Diddy's
Starting point is 00:00:27 freak-offs multiple times and engaged in intercourse while Diddy watched in the corner wearing a hijab. Sharae testified
Starting point is 00:00:34 in the trial and has written a highly reviewed book called In Search of Freezer Meat about erectile dysfunction, getting a penis implant, masculinity,
Starting point is 00:00:43 and more. So without further ado, The Punisher. How you doing man? It's been a pleasure. The homies Just don't voice us The dudes Experience Don't voice us The boys Cast Huge day for the podcast. The Punisher has just walked into the studio.
Starting point is 00:01:17 The man, the legend. You can do headphones or not headphones. It's your choice. I'll do the headphones. I saw you guys punish your vid. It was funny. Oh, we got questions. I've been obsessed with the story.
Starting point is 00:01:33 The whole thing. Ryan went to the trial. He was at the courthouse and stuff. Wow, you went down? Yeah, the whole scandal. I actually went to the trial early on, and then some guy came out, and he said he was part of Diddy's defense. He said he knew you.
Starting point is 00:01:51 What? Actually, I guess if I should show a picture of this guy. Let's see if we can pull up a picture. He was one of his lawyers? Not the main one. Yeah, no, he said he was like a PDM. Do you know what that is? What's it like an expert witness sort of thing? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yeah, no, I'm not even familiar with this guy. I'm going to check him out. This guy and he goes, he knows you. He said he's like a friend of a friend. He said he knows someone from your family? Maybe. I don't recognize him. You're getting grilled again.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Everyone's been saying this guy's a liar. Okay, okay. By the way, I finished this week and I finished the book, In Search of Freezer Meat. I appreciate you, man. Thank you for checking me out, man. So there's a whole bunch of stuff to get into. But the first thing is, I actually am a guy
Starting point is 00:02:42 that's had trouble getting it up tons of times. So I actually did. And I also like this funny that you said your dick was a hoopty. He goes, you know, if it works sometimes, if you want to put the heat up at a certain angle, you don't want to mess with the settings. But it resonates, right? It resonates. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I've been there. Who's harder to get it up with uh hotter chicks or less hot chicks because we always have this debate so on the normal circumstances it's it's hotter chicks right because you get more pressure yes but but what you can get to a point like i wrote about in my book where it doesn't even matter right right you just once you get in your head that you got problems, then every situation is a anxiety thing. It's just sports. It's like if you're playing baseball and you're just like, I just cannot hit a beach ball right now.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Yeah, but see how you simplify it, right? It is that simple, but it's a whole bunch of guys with the yips. It's like an epidemic. And everybody's just saying, here, take a pill. Yeah, just pop a pill you're good you know i'm saying and then you start popping these pills and you're like all right this pill stopped work let me try this pill oh let me go to the gas station let me go to the sex shop down here oh my oh this place in india sells this powder you know and all my friends
Starting point is 00:03:58 got china ones and they just all they did was make your face so red yeah we would literally be at like comedy shows, and Ryan would be meeting some girl, and you knew because his face would just be bright red like three hours. Bro, we're here. We're here, man. Fist bump, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Fist bump. I've had that. I've had the flush face. It's crazy. Dude, the China pills were out of control. I remember being in a girl's house. She goes, why are you so red? It's warm in here.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Got an alcohol intolerance. They didn't even work that good either. They're just face reddening pills. And then we had, there was a Viagra guy. We used to have a dealer that we would meet. He was like a steroid dealer, but then he would also deal Viagra. And we'd meet this guy in his car. And then you...
Starting point is 00:04:50 I probably know him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you had a... Do you remember? Because nowadays you can just kind of get it easily. It used to be more of a black market operation to get Viagra. Absolutely, absolutely. It felt like 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:05:03 It was buying narcotics. Yes. And we were, because a lot of these steroid labs would make fake Viagra. That's what I'm saying. So the start is that now that all this ditty stuff's happened and you were on trial, not on trial, you were a witness, right? Like a witness for the prosecution, essentially, right? Has pussy been coming at you pretty hard?
Starting point is 00:05:29 So the thing that's been coming at me pretty hard is, dude, can you bang my wife? Stop it. Like a lot. Really? Yeah. It's almost like, well, if he was good enough for Diddy,
Starting point is 00:05:43 he's good enough for us. Sure. You have to see on the stand and you know look i'm i know for a fact right i missed prostitution because of statute of limitations how long what's the statute of limitations on that? I think it's like five years. But when they do prostitution charges, don't they usually kind of
Starting point is 00:06:11 slap the buyer, not the seller? Well, so it depends, right? You know, they grab, you know, we always see things where they grab female hookers off the street and process them. So they need the transaction. They need witness of the transaction. I mean mean if they have a cool like a sealed case kind of thing if it's just like in front of them yeah but if it's in front of them they'll do it right so i i don't you know even
Starting point is 00:06:35 if i even if i was interested right yeah the idea of possibly being set up putting myself in a situation your profile is too obvious yeah and i already have a history of being involved in it you know what i'm saying it's like i'm asking for problems i mean i know all of our friends are in entertainment in some degree like everyone is petrified now of everything yeah yeah you you almost the internet age made it you know it's a different game now you got to operate like a mob boss if you want to be there you go there you go man it's you got to be when when you see and and this one is even when you look at when you really look at the the diddy trial you understand that that's his girlfriend right yeah if you really think of the idea that in the midst of a long-term relationship
Starting point is 00:07:22 if you have a scenario where your girlfriend doesn't want to and you persuade her to, you could be committing a crime. Sure. I mean, we were saying the whole thing where it's like, it's apparently illegal now to fly a girl out. That's kind of what they got it on. That's sex trafficking. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:38 That's sex trafficking. Yeah, like every football player is screwed. Yeah. I mean, yeah. We've literally both done that. I'm just like, okay, I'm a sex traffickericker you pay for a cab and she lives in new jersey yeah yeah listen i'll send you a cab yeah you're in where are you connecticut listen it was that serious when when investigators first contacted me i had moved to new jersey so they were like oh this guy
Starting point is 00:07:59 lives in jersey there's a vlog but i was like nah i lived in new york when this stuff was happening because they try to get you on all the wire stuff that's yeah dude it's like i told you the most alarming thing to me was my first uh sit down where prosecution was like a five-hour interview and they asked me every question under the sun and i'm there like i'm good i'm answering everything honestly but then as soon as the interview like like, when they were done, they handed me, like, a booklet with every text message, everything I said, everything I sent that they had from 13 years ago. Wow. Shit. So, when you see those.
Starting point is 00:08:36 How did they even get that? Dude, all I know is now when I see those mob movies and it's like, don't talk on the phone. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Don't use your phone. Yo, that is about as serious as can be, man. not just for the movies i could not believe dude i went from android to iphone i don't even have those texts have your old bbm messages yeah yeah dude it was like that's wild so it must be the phone company hustle yeah yeah but they just store them forever
Starting point is 00:09:01 they just they might they have to just store them so when they say like you know i guess a lot of people are just like, oh, I'll never snitch or whatever, right? And then they come to you and they're like, okay, if you don't talk to us, if you don't go on the stand, we'll make you go on the stand and then you'll go to jail. So it's like you kind of don't have a choice, do you? Yeah, because see, when they come to you, they already have a ton of information and you don't know where they got that information from and there's this thing you uh sign it's called like a profit agreement right and i believe that's what it's called and dude they passively aggressively threaten the hell out of you yeah it's like you know what you're fine everything's good or whatever here sign this paper just tell the truth because if you don't tell the truth we're going to prosecute you to
Starting point is 00:09:44 the furthest extent of the law this that and the other so just make, just tell the truth. Because if you don't tell the truth, we're going to prosecute you to the furthest extent of the law. So just make sure you tell the truth. Just tell the truth. You hear that a gazillion times. And if, and it's one thing if you're implicated, right? If you're a co-conspirator,
Starting point is 00:09:55 because maybe you have a reason to lie, right? But if you're not a co-conspirator, like I didn't have no, I didn't have immunity. I didn't have a non-prosecution. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Because I didn't have a crime. There was no crime you can convict me of right but wouldn't they off but they subpoena you wouldn't they say like hey if you testify you also can you're going to be immune but but again immune to what yeah yeah the sexual limitations everything i would say i want to be full across the board yeah i mean if you're gonna say give me immunity and i don't pay my taxes in the next 10 years you're like i want the hunter biden deal yeah so so so but that that that kind of passive aggressive threat to tell the truth you're gonna tell the truth yeah you know but do they subpoena you like you have no choice you you don't but i didn't let it get there right so i have a close friend that's like a retired f agent. He does these cases. And he said, look, man, that's the Southern District of New York. You do not want to be on their bad side.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah. If they call you and you become evasive and then they have to look for you to subpoena you, that's not where you want to be. Right. So I didn't let it get there. I just, if they reached out, I just cooperated. Tell them I want to talk. Okay, cool. But you were also kind of under the opinion.
Starting point is 00:11:06 You're like, nothing crazy. That crazy happened. Yeah. To this day, I'm not completely clear what was the value in my testimony. I'm really not. Yeah, because it seems like you helped them in defense. That's what I thought. At one point, I thought, and this is just my thoughts, I thought thought maybe they're securing me as a witness to stop the defense from doing it.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Kind of like one of those plays, like let's grab him on our side instead of. So we at least like frame it the right way. Look, I said that, that I really. What's it like in the trial? When you're like in,
Starting point is 00:11:42 when you're actually in the trials, like tense as fuck. My man is, is the most intimidating situation i ever been in as a as a human being in my entire life and i had no more intimidating than duty with the muzzle mask yes yes yes like that was weird the astroclan yeah that was weird but but you know i mean look only thing i know about court is judge judy right so i'm expecting this kind of laid-back ambiance and when you walk into a federal traffic court yeah it's like you know how you watch those congressional hearings like with all the congressmen and they're up there and they're drilling somebody yeah courtrooms like that like everybody like the judge sits like 12 feet up and then you walk up on his booth and then the room is huge the doors are like 15 feet high and you know my friend mentioned to me that
Starting point is 00:12:36 it's meant to intimidate you it's it's really like they want people not lying yeah yeah you walk in there and you feel like, wow, this is serious. It's a big deal. It's super tense. It's like pin drop quiet. Yeah. And so I thought I was going to be cool. And I walked in and I had like a straight anxiety attack, man.
Starting point is 00:12:56 By the time I got from the door to the stand, I was shaking. I mean, the most nerve wracking thing must be like oh if you know you recollect something incorrectly That you think was the truth, and then they're like that wasn't the truth, and you just committed a felony Well, so so I had to go in there understanding that I'm in the middle of literally probably the best attorneys and Arguably probably in the world
Starting point is 00:13:23 So I know on one side, I got the federal government with an expectation, right? And then on the other side, I got Diddy team that wants to rip me to shreds if they have to, right? So it's like, how do I manage this? And then Diddy's sitting there too. Sitting there saying, this guy's's coming in basically trying to contribute to taking my life away yeah so it's a lot yeah that's and his like family's there too dude yeah i said i knew it was a big deal when his mom came through it was a big deal everyone's outside you know and dude all of them are in the courtroom and when you walk in because remember
Starting point is 00:14:02 it's the prosecution's witness you could feel the intense like you know like like who the hell is this guy you know like oh yeah yeah and so i threw everybody off because you know you and you've got to say this shit in front of his son his daughters oh fuck mother is that weird what what what you're like yeah your dad like wanted me so badly to his wife and yeah yeah your dad has a burka pacing back and forth whacking off yeah i like this like i gotta say like that i felt like oh man this is messed up you know this is messed up yeah quick question uh did he have a big dick or not a big dick so who had a bigger dick out of you at daddy so look man i know there's another escort walking around talking about he compared first of all my instructions was not to look at him in the first place okay and if i did from peripheral i kept it
Starting point is 00:15:01 neckline man i i'm already having he's back there jacking off no yeah but was he in the chair so he would he would pace so he would be you know basics wild yeah so he would he it was set where he wasn't necessarily supposed to see me so i wasn't supposed to see him so let's say this wall is let's let's say you and him is is me andie, right? I'm you. No, he would be me. He's Cassie. No, no. He would be me. I'm Punisher.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You would be Cassie. You got to make good sounds. No, you don't got to do that. You're Diddy. So this is where Diddy would be. But remember, you're... But this close.
Starting point is 00:15:42 No. Okay, farther away. Farther away. so i'm giving it to cassie yeah yeah yeah so so so he's basically here but let's say seven eight feet further back okay and it's really dark oh he's back there because it's a big shadow yeah it's really fancy hotel room too yeah it's a big suite right so so he's further back everything's dark it's candlelit and and so he's behind a chair right watching he has like a bottle ask a guy on the table he's behind it's not filming yeah yeah like the table no like sort of like the backwards like
Starting point is 00:16:15 cool teacher chair i said that wrong but that was funny um he's behind a table in a chair but because of the angle because he he's like on one side, he would get up and pace back and forth. Was it like a happy pace or was he sort of stressed out like you weren't doing it right? Man, I'm not looking. But the pace would be with directions. Like, move the candle. You know, move this. Who the fuck does he care where the candle is?
Starting point is 00:16:41 Who's the director? I think it's visual cues. But he's not filming. Well, not that I know of. I did get calls probably a couple of weeks ago saying, like, during closing arguments, they showed more video. And they had video timestamped to me being there. So they did have video of you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I think I was. I don't know if you saw the interview to this alternate juror. And they were asking him. And he was like, yeah, you saw the interview of this alternate juror and they were asking him and he was like yeah we saw the videos he's like it wasn't it was pretty tame to be honest is what he said
Starting point is 00:17:10 because everybody's expecting like these crazy things to be going on and they're just like he's like yeah it was pretty tame just a lot of video yeah I'm expecting a guy like hanging off the ceiling
Starting point is 00:17:18 yeah yeah I mean I told you it was as far you know they call regular sex vanilla sex right so that's what I said it was all just very normal stuff you do.
Starting point is 00:17:26 With someone else's wife while they watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the part of it. Which to some people is quite normal. Which at this point. It's not that insane. Yeah. At this point, that is normal.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I think where everybody went crazy was the hijab. No, the hijab. Yeah. Yeah, that's what made it crazy. Salam alaikum. But when you think about it, it makes sense. At least with me, he was going out of his way to hide his identity. Sure.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Minus the giant things that say, welcome, Diddy. Didn't they have on TVs and stuff at some point? Well, no. This happens normal. Certain hotels you check into, they put the welcome message. Yeah, so that's how I found out. Oh, the welcome message was in the room was in the room i actually misinterpreted that i thought the idea was the hotel was kind of like
Starting point is 00:18:12 yeah he did he's here and then he was kind of like yo could you i oh no it was just like that that first screen when you turn on the tv yeah so so you turn on the thing and it was like welcome sean combs that's how holy. That's how I found out. Holy shit. That's how I found out, man. They put me in a room. Because I'll show up two in the morning. We might not do anything before.
Starting point is 00:18:32 So I'll chill out in the room. And I'll say, hey, let me watch TV. And I was just like, oh, you want to kill me? So you have time to kill? So when you get there, what are they doing, though, when you're just sort of dicking around killing time? So I never know where he's at. Okay. He slinking around somewhere right and so i'm i'm only dealing with uh miss ventura and she'll she was cool man super cool always hey what's up how you been how's work snacks we'll talk offer me you want to order room service you want to
Starting point is 00:19:00 do that like dude super accommodating whatever and i'll just be like yo i'm good just call me when you need me you know leave me in the living room and just you by yourself just me by myself again they made it seem like there was 40 people like when you're watching the news you're like there's 40 people there yeah like it's this whole zoo and you're like no it's just like a giant suite and it's just the two of them and you yep there's they they they you know between social media and some of the news networks they were just sensationalizing everything i guess for for what for what do we do right views likes you know it matters right so everybody was building it up bigger than what it was but it was just well i guess there was a difference between the hotel parties in new york and his parties at
Starting point is 00:19:42 his house in los angeles too, right? This was like a side freak-off. Well, see, I think that's what everybody commingled, right? You hear about these ditty parties forever. I've been hearing about them for the last 20 years, easy. And you just assume
Starting point is 00:19:59 that when they said freak-off, it was going to be something happening at these parties. These rumors that there's a regular party party then you go to a room and it's going crazy and everybody including me i thought that was going to be in the trial right it was just going to be a room with like kid little blow-up floaties full of baby all and everybody's wrestling you know having sex literally that's what i thought it was that's what i i thought that's why when they got on big wheel they spoke to me i was like nah i missed that they ain't invite me so there's no way i thought i was testifying you know yeah you're like no i just fucked his wife a
Starting point is 00:20:35 bunch of times yeah that's okay so basically in the thing then they come out then you start banging her and then he's sort of pacing around whispering commands sort of thing yeah and and the commands were was subtle man most of the commands was just about the light or the positioning of our bodies so he can see oh he's like he's like move the he's kind of like the camera you gotta you gotta know to move your arm right like you know when you're smashing you gotta move your arm for the camera sometimes it felt like a photo i don't know if you ever took a photo shoot but sometimes a photo shoot could be the most uncomfortable thing in the world yeah like you just hold that pose you know turn like it likes behind your head yeah so i said both yeah so it started it started to feel
Starting point is 00:21:17 like obviously it was nothing like normal like a normal sexual flow it just was not of course was not did he ever touch you like i don't mean like that i just mean did he ever like you know just like give you like a nut like a never like a shoulder that would have been a problem yeah but if he was just like you're crushing it no thankfully no bro just like lightly graze on your head like good work yeah like i said in the toast testimony the closest he came to any interaction one time almost every time it was in the living room But one we went to a bedroom and we're on the bed
Starting point is 00:21:53 So it's close proximity because he's walking around the bed Yeah, and at some point i'm doing what i'm doing and he took a stack a hundred dollar bills and just threw him on The bed like at the strip club like Yeah, we both looked at him like hey, you okay? was like nah i like that shit oh yeah yeah yeah that was like the real seal of approval right there yeah yeah yeah so i was like ah make it so we all know that summer is amazing we're talking sunshine road trip beach days but we can we get honest for a second if you don't mind i'd like to get honest because that means, sweat. If you're not wearing the right underwear, it gets real uncomfortable real fast. This episode, we're talking about packages.
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Starting point is 00:24:52 would go to the room and you said in your book that you were suspecting something fishy might have been going on in the room with the semen. Yeah, and that got confirmed and Cassie confirmed it. So after he makes them finish and then they go into the room and then Diddy has a field day on your cum. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So I have very specific instructions that every time to conclude a session. You get them in advance? Well, she would tell me. She would tell you. Yeah. So I would have to cum orgasm all around the outside of her vagina. Not in, just all around the outside. And so I didn't think anything of it, but I noticed that we would start out with towels, sheets.
Starting point is 00:25:34 There's plenty of things to wipe up. But right after I did it, he would pop up and leave the room. And then she would jump up and follow him. But she would follow him in a way where you can tell she's trying to keep it like stop it yeah yeah dripping from dripping or whatever and she would rush so i was just like that's odd she's dinner served don't every time and then and then of course she got on the stand and said that she would take it and rub it on his nipples was there baby oil everywhere everywhere everywhere everywhere so the baby oil everywhere? Everywhere Everywhere Everywhere So the baby oil was accurate
Starting point is 00:26:06 That there was that much baby oil Yeah You had to constantly If it appeared to dry up a little bit You had to time out On her whole body? Why do you think they like that? What is that?
Starting point is 00:26:17 Every drop Just the shine? The shine? Yeah It had to be something with the shine Did it feel better for you? Like were you liking it? No Because that much of it It starts to feel almost like gooey like right you know
Starting point is 00:26:30 it doesn't feel you know as a male stripper i'm used to using it because you you put it on and you know try to make your muscles look a little yeah a little but this was like an excessive amount it was a lot yeah all right well let's have okay so this is you you mentioned okay one of the things that you said in your book was that like sometimes you understood that maybe some guys get into the cucking because they couldn't get it up that much was that him well that was my assumption right yeah you see this you know billionaire guy right with this beautiful girlfriend and then the first thing you think is why like i i didn't my first thought wasn't to go to it's for him right like it's for his own pleasure i'm thinking he's had some insecurities and he wants to make sure his partner is good but in a in an environment where it's under his control you know and and and
Starting point is 00:27:26 honestly i still believe that to some degree yeah i still believe that to some degree because if you if you listen to some of the other things said he was extremely possessive and jealous over her right with the trainer and stuff yeah like like just just in general you know he's he's it was known that you mess with her he was going to have a serious issue. But at the same time, he's letting guys sleep with her on the regular, but it is completely in his control. And so, I don't know if you know it, but there's another escort out now that's actively saying he witnessed Diddy's size. he's supposed to be what does he say he's happy with it or not happy with it no he's saying that he's in very inadequate ah he believes that he was supplementing yeah that was part of it see to me if i was like if i was in the i would think
Starting point is 00:28:20 about it the other way around where it's like, if you're so confident that maybe like other dudes banging your chick, you're just like, they'll never be me. You know what I mean? Like if you had a real, if you had like an 18 incher, I probably wouldn't get the guy called the punisher. I don't think I wouldn't do it either way.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But I'm saying if I had like, if you're sitting there, you go, no guy could ever pleasure her like me. He go, yeah, you can try. Like you, you're that confidence in your fucking dick yeah or something
Starting point is 00:28:48 yeah yeah i i i i i'm sure there's guys that go into it with that level of confidence yeah they probably don't come out of it with that level of confidence though i think a lot of guys probably think it would be hotter until it's actually happening too or you just be like oh that'd be crazy and then you actually watch a guy banging her you're just like it's not actually crazy it stinks yeah he's really uh they're really calling that for a reason huh yeah she never made that sound with me what was that sound you know like something that'll give you a cue and he got some little thing and then you should be like okay well we're breaking up now that's that yeah i can never unsee it you just walk away you never come back yeah that's that's Yeah that's a tough one man
Starting point is 00:29:26 To me I couldn't do it So you couldn't get up and then you couldn't bust Those are both the problems That I've been through many times So I think when you get to the point When you can't finish It's usually you're over medicated Yeah sometimes
Starting point is 00:29:41 Every time I experience that I took too many pills And now I'm like A petrified tree Did you ever get the Dan Blazerian thing Where you feel like Your heart's gonna explode
Starting point is 00:29:50 Oh yeah of course bro I said it in the book I had it One day there I was like Am I gonna keep doing this Or am I gonna go to the hospital You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:29:58 I'll keep I'll keep sleeping with the chick Especially some people Start doing Cause they go Oh I'm gonna do coke I'm gonna fucking do Viagra
Starting point is 00:30:04 You know They're They're crazy They're asking for Especially some people start doing it because they go, I'm going to do Coke. I'm going to fucking do Viagra. They're crazy. They're asking for a hard time. It's a bad cocktail, but also you start doing drugs like that and you're just like, what's my other option? Yeah, no, it's true, man. Especially if you're taking over the dose, like an overdose of sex pills and then other drugs with it you probably definitely putting yourself at risk yeah yeah you know sure did you have other clients who had similar requests like was this a common thing for guys to be like come bang my wife so not then you know this stuff yeah yeah that's what i'm saying when you were doing this yeah but no but over the last
Starting point is 00:30:40 i want to say seven years especially after, it's the most common thing now. What? What? Are you serious? They want a guy to come bang their check? Constantly, bro. Constantly. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Where did this come from? I have no idea. I have no idea. Because I've been in this business 30 years and I get calls all the time. Like calls for normal parties, but there's always somebody soliciting something. But right now, it's like a daily call. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:11 It's a daily call. And I'm talking about just a daily call. That's just for my website. I'm not talking about soliciting me because I was in a trial. Yes. I'm just talking about- Sure, that's just like when you were before this. Hey, I just want to hire a guy for my wife.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Like, I want to hire a guy for my girlfriend. And at the club, I run a club in the city. I get at least... What's the club in the city you run? So my male review business is called Hunkle Mania. Nice. So we do... I'm unfamiliar with it, I swear.
Starting point is 00:31:39 It's like a bachelorette themed event. It's like Chippendales, but now, right? But New York City. But it's usually just groups of women celebrating their bachelorettes but now i get more and more couples i get four or five couples every weekend and they start out just the guy's getting a couple of dances for his wife then all of a sudden they pull a guy over to the side and i know they're propositioning them for what's up later It's Common Why is that
Starting point is 00:32:08 That there's this Like influx of that I know the magazines And all that Have been like pushing it Porn Like is it like the Like porn kind of
Starting point is 00:32:15 Well let me tell you The dynamic that I see I usually see A little bit older Average looking guys Yeah With young Hot hotter wives. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:27 And they just can't give it to them like they used to. They just can't. I'm telling you, I feel like there's a compensation thing. Look at all the pressure that's put on us, bro. You can't watch a sporting event
Starting point is 00:32:36 without seeing hims, Viagra, Cialis, you know, testosterone boosters. And then there's always a line in the commercial and she'll love it too you know like it's always so that's psychologically putting pressure yeah on men's performance issues
Starting point is 00:32:52 so i don't care who you are if you're if you're a guy in your 40s even if you're good you ain't what you was in your 20s no sir you're just not right you may have more knowledge but you ain't you ain't that thoroughbred no more right so it's some guys that know i got this young hot girl they feel already feel intimidated with their performance so it's like all right if i let her just go out and do it now i risk a guy taking her she her falling in love you know like it being more and some guys say well look i'm gonna facilitate it control it and then they feel empowered and well that almost feels a little better in a way than like guys just being like
Starting point is 00:33:31 you know every guy's just become a cuck for no essentially that's like a feminized that's like their sexual proclivity versus yeah yeah yeah i think i think it's more a control satisfaction aspect than it is, I just like live porn. I just like watching my woman get banged. The humiliation element. Yeah, but it's a lot of those too, man. It's weird. A lot of freaks out there, huh? Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:34:00 That's interesting that the amount of that has just gone crazy. Yeah, without a doubt. What do you think is the best excuse to give to a girl when you can't get it up? So mine was always, I just train legs in the gym. Just train legs. Nice. My legs are killing me. Huge.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah. So that was my go-to. Everybody runs to stress things. It's just crazy at work. You know, you always... Sure, there's always something. Yeah, but none of it really works right because when you can't perform the way women react to it is rejection right right yeah they're like i'm yeah yeah so that's going to create just a big issue
Starting point is 00:34:37 with their self-esteem and then forget the extra anxiety it puts on you nothing's's more emasculating than failing, right? Yeah, I know. Then you're over the top nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you're trying to compensate. Probably some girls are going to think I'm the nicest guy in the world just because I couldn't get it up. Then you lose your sexiness because too nice is not attractive.
Starting point is 00:35:00 It's your only option at that point. You can't play it cool with a fucking limp dick. Yeah, not at all. Not at all. Not at all. Not at all. You're zero options. You would just overcompensate with just like a tornado tongue. I think you just call him too drunk.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Too drunk is like sort of reasonable. If you had drinks. You're having drinks. Yeah, you're just... Your baseline is always having drinks. I hope you always just have a bunch of Empty little Beer helmet all the time
Starting point is 00:35:29 It's too crazy Do you ever try testosterone? If you're never having a problem Late at night, morning is usually fine You can tell Diddy We need to take a nap and I'm going back again in the morning Sure, but then you have the anxiety What happens if you wake up and it's not working out?
Starting point is 00:35:46 And then what's your excuse? Probably. Yeah, so either way. So you asked about testosterone. So a few years back, I got on TRT. I'm in my 50s, so I got on TRT. But TRT, for some guys, it helps if your issue is low testosterone. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:03 But if your issue is anxiety... Mental. So here's the science behind it, right? When you experience anxiety, your body releases a hormone called cortisol, right? And cortisol constricts your blood vessels. Boner killer. Boner killer.
Starting point is 00:36:19 So that's all Cialis and Viagra and the pills do is they open your blood vessels a little bit more so you get more flow. But the cortisol is stronger. So if you're having anxiety, it's going to constrict. You're popping these pills thinking the pills are going to work, but the way they open your vessels is not going to overcompensate. Especially if you're thinking, if you're just on loops like that. For the anxiety. So a lot of guys who have mental
Starting point is 00:36:45 because my book is about psychological ed and obviously it's a life story i tell funny stories yeah yeah but it it basically breaks down that you'll notice so every guy experiences you might have took a pill or went to mess around with a chick and failed and then she leaves it's two hours later and you're watching sports center like a voter like yo where were you when i needed you and that's just because anxiety left right like do you like you still like when you sleep kind of like it would be fine when you sleep or did you not have them so so again that's another thing you pay attention to as you age right are you waking up apparently it's a big uh sign of health it's a big deal yeah so so those morning wood you're supposed to get like 7 to 15 erections
Starting point is 00:37:31 all night long while you sleep and that's really your body just exercising your your penis right and you know it's blood vessels it's like a muscle if you don't use it at an atrophy so once you notice that hey i'm not more than wood anymore, there's a problem. Yeah. And you want to try to rectify that as much as possible. So people joke about penis pumps, right? But that's what penis pumps are for. If you're not getting erections on your arm.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Penis pumps actually do anything? I don't get it. So I usually use a penis pump as a male stripper because it will give you a artificial erection if you put your penis in a pump and you does actually work it will pull it straight but you're not turned on so the minute you take it out it's you know i'm saying it's gone but what the people who use it the goal is you pump it straight and then you take like a like cock ring or something, and then you put it on the base, and it'll hold it. Now, it won't be like a flagpole, right? But if you're not getting anything, it'll give you enough.
Starting point is 00:38:35 So it's more like to beef up when you're sort of half chub. Yeah, but it can give you enough if you get the cock ring on, whatever, where you can actually have intercourse. And most guys, once you get in and start— It's the lowest trick in the book and all that. Yeah, you know, you get it cock ring on whatever where you can actually have intercourse and most guys once you get in and start it's the lowest trick in the book yeah yeah yeah you know you get it in a few strokes like all right there we go you know like like you'll get it together yeah it's enough to get you started it's like a push start on a car you just kind of get behind yeah there you go yeah they get it on a hill yeah oh here we go right. Right? So, but with using it for medical reasons, if you're not getting erections at all, and you need to use this at least once a day for 20 minutes, because it keeps your blood vessels expanded.
Starting point is 00:39:17 It keeps the skin elastic. And seriously, bro, if you go long periods of time without getting an erection, you will shrink. It will atrophy. Yeah. Yeah. And you will lose. So guys, like, you know, obviously I got an implant, right?
Starting point is 00:39:31 So- To be completely honest, I don't get the implant. Dude, I read the section about the implant like three times and I chat GPT and I still was just like, what is this? All right, we'll break that down. You press a button and you get a boner? Kind of. Kind of. The fuck? Kind of. It's more like- All right. was just like what is this all right you press a button and you get a boner kind of kind of kind of it's more like all right so we'll jump there right okay fine yeah i know we're jumping
Starting point is 00:39:51 around yeah no no it's cool it's cool so what the way the implant works so um on either side of your uh peho all the way up from the base to the tip right we have something called a corpus and it's like two straws right and so those straws is what fill up with blood to give you an erection so what they would i don't know if you ever noticed but on your testicles there's like a crease yeah right a seam like a baseball so they make they make they literally make a little small incision in that seam and they can access the bottom of these straws so then they take two cylinders and they put it up up those straws from the base to the tip and then they drop a little pump the pump is small and it feels like you have a third testy right so you got three nuts it feels
Starting point is 00:40:40 like you got three nuts and you could literally and then they take a reservoir where they put saline the same thing that's in breast implants literally And then they take a reservoir Where they put saline The same thing that's in breast implants And they put it in a reservoir And apparently we have some space By our bladder That they just put it in And sit it there
Starting point is 00:40:52 Yeah And so when I'm ready to get an erection I'm chilling I'm talking to the girl I'm doing the Al Bundy My hands on the thing And I'm just Rebound pumping my balls
Starting point is 00:40:59 Like So you press it It's not like You press it once and it goes I'm picturing you press it once And it goes No no no no You can It's not like You press it once And it goes I'm picturing you press it once And it goes No no no You can
Starting point is 00:41:07 Each press is putting Fluid in the cylinders So I can So you could over pump it By accident Well you're gonna run out of Fluid So they put enough fluid
Starting point is 00:41:16 They put enough fluid To give you Like I mean seriously man It's The best Think The best erection
Starting point is 00:41:24 You ever had in your life. So you think in the future, everyone's going to be juiced up on this? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Why not, man? The only thing is nobody's... Is there any way that they could make the pump in your hand so you could do it without touching it? Yo, but no.
Starting point is 00:41:36 I will tell you this. Or like the Reebok basketball? So you could be just standing there and just go... No, dude. They're coming up with one that you can actually connect to your phone you could go in the app and be like come on i swear to you man i wouldn't get it because i you don't want to be like the game i went to chicken my phone died
Starting point is 00:41:56 you gotta i lost my phone we gotta go get a charger she's like usbc or lightning you're like fuck lightning yes I wasn't no part of that one but yeah man it coming out on a hat you could just what does that cost
Starting point is 00:42:11 I didn't look into it bro yours is 30k yeah and mind you I was on the high end right cause I used
Starting point is 00:42:17 at the time what was considered the best doctor you don't wanna mess around with that shit and this is in New York too you didn't go to Turkey
Starting point is 00:42:23 yeah yeah I'm not looking for a bargain on slicing open my junk right yeah but but there are really good doctors i there was a guy that's really good and he he at the time he was in atlanta area and he was like 16 grand you could have got a cheaper one yeah i could have i could but i look i wasn't playing yeah that's not the thing you skimp on yeah and then the good thing is it's all of this stuff i got i got care credit. I think I put $12,000 down.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I put $20,000 on a card, and I got a penis note. Right. You got to know. Were they repossessed? Oh, no. Hey, you can try. Yeah, you can. So is that big in the stripper world now?
Starting point is 00:43:04 It's bigger in the porn world. Porn world, yeah. Yeah, like male strippers you you're not you're just dancing right but i know a lot of guys they don't they don't say it obviously you know i i got a couple of friends that do porn because a friend that did porn is the one that told me to get it and he was also like look don't tell nobody about it it's a big secret you know or everybody's gonna get it right because it is it is kind of like this is like blood doping and tour de france this guy's crabs in a bucket he doesn't want anyone else yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it's a cheap scarcity mindset on this friend of yours but it's a cheat sheet man it's a cheat sheet it's a cheat sheet like it's it's and it lasts for life or do you have to get it kind of replaced so supposedly the the lifespan on a bionic dick it's crazy it's like 20
Starting point is 00:43:47 years 20 years that's not bad but but but didn't you say you got your dad on one too oh yeah my dad forget about it so your dad's how old's your dad he's 70 now he just yeah he got it at 68 you can't tell him that is crazy though dating a girl after ex-boyfriend had a fucking bionic piece oh you you done that's why i said it's not fair it's not fair it's not fair like like like like so so i'll give you like a real and i i'm not trying to necessarily sales pitch them but everybody yeah oh it's not your company yeah yeah everybody's been um with a girl right and you're having sex right and you ever had that moment where... Not everybody, but mostly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ever had that moment
Starting point is 00:44:27 where you're about to orgasm and she feels it and then she, like, you're about to come, she goes, oh my God, I am too? Uh-huh. So why that happens is right before you...
Starting point is 00:44:38 Sure. Right before you orgasm, you usually get an extra, like, jolt of stiffness. She can just feel, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and she get an extra jolt of stiffness. She can just feel, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and she feels that extra joint of stiffness, and then it excites her, and it pushes her over the top. With the pump, I had girls that I was dealing with before, right? And let's say I would get them maybe to come two times.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Oh, you're saying they would feel the jolt beforehand. Yeah, and then after, because that jolt they feel, I'm always there. So now the same girl is like every Tim stroke. It's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah, I might get them from zero to one. Yeah, because it's... I'm more Peter Thiel.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah, because the thing is like steel, man. It's like... Yeah, man. Bestest top three decisions of mine. That's so steel, man. It's like, yeah, man. That's the top three decisions of life. That's so crazy, man. There's 75-year-old guys out there walking out with just like a perfect bionic fucking bow. Yeah, my dad is like, and remember I said there's different levels, right? So my dad, he'll call me up and says,
Starting point is 00:45:41 Did you crank this puppy to 11? Yeah, no, no. So he'd walk around because he's like back to the future he can't go any higher he realizes now that women that women stare at boulders right okay so he'll call me up and say yeah i was walking around today i had it like one of seven chicks was going crazy oh he's walking around soft just like you just go put it out of three yeah put it out of certain things so hey this is crazy this is what we're up against here yeah my dad it was oh my dad i swear my dad sends me amazon links like gray
Starting point is 00:46:12 sweatpants yeah i'm picking these up this week gotta put it on proper display you know like so that's the best part is that you can just keep yourself at like a two or three at all times yeah and then you're walking around like yeah yeah and then then shoved up and then the thing about it is you you it because i'm big balls too so i don't like to go too flaccid in front of a chick yeah yeah and it would hide the thing uh pretty good but so i use off to get a little bit chubbed yeah because but here's another thing right you you never You always pretty much keep your entire length within maybe a half to three quarters of an inch. So let's say if a normal guy is five inches and then when he's not erect, he drops to two, right? If you're implanted, you're going to go from five inches to four and a quarter.
Starting point is 00:47:00 So it's either going to be rigid or it's going to be hanging. For the stripper guy, it's like where you're trying to make your flaccid look good. You're cooking. Yeah. I hate that. You know, I respect it, and honestly, I could get in the game. Yeah. Which you do make a good case, but I don't like the fact that that's the competition.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Everyone's juicing. Yeah, basically, bro. It's like you're trying to win the Tour de France right now, and you're just like, oh, I'm going to be all natty. And it's like, have fun, bud. Well, I usually just say I'm trying to win the tour to france right now and you find you're just like oh i'm gonna be all natty and it's like have fun bud well i i usually just say i'm trying to hit 73 home runs every time barry boner there you go barry boner barry boner yeah barry boner yeah my bad is juice bro oh yeah i did not think that's how that worked i always thought it was like some one of those like snap bracelets from the 90s where you just kind of like snapped it and you unsee yeah
Starting point is 00:47:52 so but see this is new technology right it was it was brutal in the past and in the past some people took some bad boner you had a joke about the guy who died is did he died the guy allude allude alejandro his billionaire got like no this is the dick this is the dick enlargements though oh yeah he got the dick enlargement and died on the surgery and they were people were just getting rocked and this was like billionaire guy too yeah yeah yeah so those the enlargement stuff usually is like fat injections and stuff like that where you can run into some sort of like the the weight if they inject the fat in the wrong scenario yeah get into like your bloodstream gets infected or something
Starting point is 00:48:30 yeah so those are risky right and even if you're gonna do that right you you do you do fillers yeah like fillers are safe that's what the gay guys are all doing apparently yeah you do the fillers what i hear you do the fillers the fillers could be costly right because is is they're always permanent it's like with girls with their lips yeah they're not permanent yeah in the last year you're doing it forever and you're definitely not going back like once you do the filler you're not just being like i'll go back to how it was yeah and then but but what y'all understand that gay job to be the guy that does the fillers, just fixing fucking needles in guys' dicks all day long.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's an honest day's work. Yeah, but so a lot of guys do that. And then there's another thing called, well, one of the brands of it was called Panoma, right? And that's a sleeve, which I got a couple of buddies with this, where you know when the- The whole crew's bricked up. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:29 You know when the- These guys walking in the bar so you know when like the the toilet paper runs out and you got that cardboard yeah like circle yeah so imagine that cutting in half so they take that kind of like half thing and they'll put a incision at the base and they'll just literally slide that in and so you a guy will instantly go from a hot dog to a hot sausage. Instantly. It's crazy. Then they fill you up with whatever, and then you walk around with just extra added girth. But it's like a filler sleeve that's put in the inside. So it's pretty popular.
Starting point is 00:49:58 But it's complications with that, too. Yours is the safer version of all this. Yeah. So mine doesn't give you any size it doesn't give you anything it just gives you like the your best erection every time all the time with unlimited stamina like it yeah you can go right forever you know it's it's the only risk is where any surgery is infection right yeah so you just want to get a doctor that's experienced that has done this a bunch of times to just make sure nothing gets now does it work like because
Starting point is 00:50:33 now you probably have this crazy confidence that you're like this thing never fails so then do you sometimes like does it work without it now well no so so i control i agree with that yeah you know what i mean like are you like because i have this fail safe that sometimes you try and go like so that's that's the only downside right so i would tell a guy look if you're working fine don't be greedy you know don't be greedy it's always waiting for you yeah it'll be here you know i'm saying don't jump the line right just just keep doing what you're doing this is just an option because you do there's three parts to an erection right you get uh obviously the the straw as i told you that's one part which is supplementing that then there's a second erection you get which is just the fullness
Starting point is 00:51:16 so blood rushes for the fullness and then the last one is the glands the tip all of these have their own separate erection right so i still get the tip i still get the spongy but the the length is controlled by me gotcha and so i can feel the rouse i can feel blood rushing but i'm not gonna get stiff anymore on my own i gave that up i gotta hit the rebar pump right right yeah i gotta hit the rebar pump. Right? That's what I got there. Yeah. I got to hit the Reebok pump, right? So I wouldn't say, hey, just jump to this, right? But it is an option for guys that it's like you're in trouble. And then you got guys that, like, this is a good option for guys with diabetes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Right? You get a good doctor and, you know, they'll take'll take you know my dad has a good friend who my dad told him about it and he was going through issues with his marriage and this was an option yeah for his diabetes and literally sometimes the problem is that it's uh that the wife got grosser too yeah that's you know it's not it's not always put the you know blame on the men yeah yeah yeah but i mean you know you gotta you gotta's not always put the you know blame on the men yeah yeah yeah but i mean you know you gotta you gotta take one for the team you cover up and just get in there bro you know have you ever when you were getting propositioned in the in the uh like uh uh male
Starting point is 00:52:36 stripper world like you had situations like diddy where the girl was just like a beast so i i couldn't you couldn't see i'm taking out the beast that'd be a tough thing to do yeah i wouldn't be able to do i would you really couldn't yeah nah man once once i i was always picky anyway and going into a certain environment is but so much you can fake it man like i need right connected yeah did you know what cassie looked like before you went there so i i knew of her she greeted me at the door, but I didn't recognize her. Like her. But I'm saying, but like in a situation like that when she's,
Starting point is 00:53:11 because she's got you off of like your website, right? Yeah. Like does she have to send a photo of her? Well, no, she didn't because I got called to just do a party. Oh, gotcha. Yeah, so I'm thinking I'm showing up to a room. Yeah, yeah, you're saying they call you to a party, and then basically every now and then someone will offer you money to do more.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Yeah, so this is how women... Women are not overt when they want sex, right? So how they solicit is, do you do one-on-ones? Or they'll say, hey, do you do massages, right? And so you know if a woman's asking you to dance for her one-on-one what's going on next yeah it's more to it right so in those scenarios where i was propositioned and i definitely took it i would ask them to send a picture really yeah and if they sent a picture and see i would have thought that was the part the game what the game is the game if you're like a male escort sometimes you're just like yeah it's just mostly beat chicks well yeah but so that's a but that's a male escort for a company so when you're going for yeah it's just mostly beat chicks well yeah but so that's up but
Starting point is 00:54:05 that's a male escort for a company so when you're going for a company and the company gets a percentage if you turn stuff down they're not going to give you work anymore yeah yeah yeah i always advertise as a male stripper it's my own website i get the calls so you just did no b say you were just like why are hot girls messaging for a fucking dick like that? Because sometimes it's complicated, right? Sometimes women, a chick goes on Tinder and she swipes a gazillion times and shows up, it's not the guy.
Starting point is 00:54:40 You know what I'm saying? The conversation's terrible. It's like bad circumstances. Yeah, and then we have and then we we have this we just have this assumption that very attractive women are constantly being approached by men they like really attractive women probably almost a little less like assaulted like eight five she's getting dick thrown at her non-stop yeah yeah but but but and then but it also depends on environment and environment right because yeah her a lot of times women are so standoffish right when they're out and about it is it'll stop it right so give the bad yeah they give the vibe of leave me alone they give
Starting point is 00:55:15 the leave me alone vibe so a lot of guys like i don't like rejection right i i rarely approach women you know i'm saying because nobody wants to feel that so they go through periods of time where the guys they would be attracted to are not interested the guys that are they they don't want so it's like i have needs sure and they'll get a moment and say well you know what i'm gonna call a guy and have a good night or whatever and then they always frame it as just companionship but it can go there yeah is there ever like a thing how like you know it's in new york where it's like you know these rich like high profile like powerful ceos like is there like similar with women good question you know whether ever like these super rich like i'm too busy to like even spend time getting dick down i just need a guy to come time
Starting point is 00:55:59 all the time and a lot of time these women do it on basically think they're men yeah so so similar how i told you at the club sometime i see the couples come in i will see some of the hottest you can tell she's doing well in life she got on the presidential rolex and this and she'll come to a male strip club by herself ah well you know what that is. If she walks in by herself, 99% of the time, she's going to leave with a guy or meet up with him later. So that's what she offers them. She says, hey, come back to my hotel.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the only thing about that situation... Do you do that stuff a lot? If I can. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm actually... I thought maybe you were out of the game a little bit now, you're saying. Yeah, but I mean look we're i'm talking about these women be hot bro like like
Starting point is 00:56:50 it's not even about how much it's about like you cannot go you know what i'm saying like you know it's not even like from a business standpoint but she could have also done that at a bar that's what i'm saying yeah yeah but but she has a highly likelihood to come male dances you know all the guys are going to be in shape they're used to dealing with women they're used to the the vibe so it's it's probably easy pick it's easier to pick yeah it's just less less hassle less hassle yeah interesting i would have i would have definitely thought it was just like yeah real like beasts i'm sure that's a surprise segment of the market i mean the guys who you're saying work for like the um you know the services where they
Starting point is 00:57:30 can't turn it down that's basically you're like a plumber at that point that's just dirty jobs with mike rowe yeah yeah yeah the only plug your nose and just get to work the only thing you get from the agency right is any you know any escort agency they can't promise sex legally yeah of course yeah legally they can't like so every guy that's sent out it's for time right companionship so you can get there and i guess guys go to like a strip club and they like pay a girl to kind of just like be around you know that's what a strip club is I don't know it's so weird dude I went to like we went to a strip club a bit ago with like a bunch of people and it was like the one girl kept coming to me and she
Starting point is 00:58:13 was just like oh yeah where you from and she was telling me he's like yeah I just moved here this and that and chat and she was like yeah and I got a place over the down the thing and I was like oh what area do you live in I live in that i go beat it like it was like crazy to me i was just like who i was like literally had to like i was trying to like avoid this girl i was just like i could get this every time you know just some chit chat yeah i thought it was like a weird thing where like why would i be paying a girl for that i thought that's what we're paying not to do yeah yeah but i mean you got you got some guys in the corporate. What's the shut it up? So, yeah, some guys are literally like, I don't talk to women. Yeah, they get no interaction, man.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Definitely not friendly interaction. Yeah, like a friendly, hot woman talking to you. Yeah, where does that happen at, right? If you're not somebody in that moment in a public eye, it doesn't happen. Like, you know, you guys are in a public forum so the focus is going to be on you i'm the male stripper so women are going to talk to me but the average guy he doesn't have hot girls striking up random conversation with him it never happened well then my message to the average guy is it's not as good as you think it is
Starting point is 00:59:17 you're not missing out on that much with these girls. Chatting to you about their equinox. Chatting to you about the amenities being closed in their building. I don't know. Yeah. But some guys need that, man. No female interaction. I guess, yeah. What a perfect episode to talk about getting
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Starting point is 01:02:07 When the actual verdict happened, were you surprised by it, or is that what you thought it was going to shake down? That's what I thought. I actually thought that was going to happen. It's just the crimes we've been seeing and hearing about is domestic violence and assault and those type of things. And I always thought it was going to be difficult to take a guy who's in a relationship with a woman for 10 years, right?
Starting point is 01:02:33 There are thousands of text messages between them outside of the sex stuff. You know, I love you. I care about you mutually. And then there's hundreds of text messages where she's consenting to the sexual activity I can't wait oh it's gonna be so hot this was so hot yeah so horny right and then you're gonna ask the jury to pluck a couple of occasions out where she might not have wanted to and he actively got her to and and then say that sex trafficking sure i always thought yeah
Starting point is 01:03:07 sex trafficking with a guy feels just like harder to get people to like have any sympathy like if you're if you're talking about you know we're sex trafficking this like woman and she's against her will but you're like a dude came across the border to like bang your wife you're just like that's what he got convicted of yeah and it's hard for anyone to like give a shit you know i convicted and the crazy thing about it is that the sentencing guidelines is up to 10 years for each count and the lowest the minimum is 21 to 26 months that's great that's crazy what do you think the reason is that that they just have these this is kind of what i what i was thinking but I don't know if it's right. But in my opinion, I was like, they have a million of these laws that they can almost just arrest anyone for anything at any time.
Starting point is 01:03:52 But then once they start to try to get you for something, they start throwing these ones in. Yeah, I think they have these gray area laws that they can try to win into. Yeah, I mean, the wire laws are like the... Everybody gets busted on those. And it's literally like the wire laws are like if you use the wires to communicate and commit a crime then they have these wire like literally it's like the wires like if you like call somebody in a different state and do some sort of crime they have a separate crime like not only did you commit the crime but then they're like using the wires to commit the crime yeah yeah it's like old law but they still charges so what i think is going on now is i think he's i i really think
Starting point is 01:04:30 this is like the oj simpson thing right how oj beat the murder case but then he got 33 years for going to get his own stuff yeah so it's so martin scrawley got the same thing yeah so it's like the underlying thing where we know this guy is guilty of crimes but we can't get him we'll get him for something and they spent so much money and made such a show out of it and they said it was the most expensive prostitution trial of all time it's been like 25 million dollars right yeah so i mean imagine that they spent 25 million dollars and just like we lost we got nothing and you're like okay that's such a black eye for them. Yeah. So that's why even though something that we've all done, like flying girls out, you know
Starting point is 01:05:11 what I'm saying? Like even something that is kind of done daily in our society, he could end up getting five. If he ends up getting five, 10 years, I feel like it's, well, we couldn't get you on domestic violence. We couldn't get you on other things. So now you're going to get a stiff. I wonder if professional athletes are seeing this and they're like, all right, no more of this business. Oh, they're scared to death. They must be.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Right now, everybody. They're like, I'm guilty of sex trafficking. Yeah. Look, if you come in to see me, buy your own ticket. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Buy your own ticket. Yeah, I'm not reimbursing you.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Leave me in the cage. If I do reimburse you reimburse you i'm gonna reimburse you in a different way i didn't give you a money back for that ticket you know what i'm saying but use your own sky miles account yeah yeah yeah it ain't gonna be on my because that's that that's what really sealed them they found an american express card with him buying the plane tickets making the accommodation that's hard yeah stop it it's like ridiculous yeah it's crazy it's literally like do you think a part of me too also feels like um when this first started happening it was like maybe like four years ago when they said like she wants she had the criminal trial or like the non-criminal trial and then they had the criminal trial and it felt like that was really in the heat of Me Too and the heat of maybe going over the top on those kind of trials. And then in the course of the trial happening, that stuff kind of died down a little bit too.
Starting point is 01:06:38 So maybe they went a little greedy because of the moment that it was happening in. Yeah, from what I understand the the prosecutor that went after um james comey's daughter i believe well no it was a guy before i was a guy before that yeah and i think that guy was actively involved in the r kelly um so he was cooking after his last yeah and and so i i you you can fact check this but what was told to me was he was associated with the Kamala Harris regime. So the story is he was trying to make the biggest name for himself because if he boosted his- He might be the Attorney General or something. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Right. Exactly. And he was going for big names. He was going for big names. He wanted scalps. Yeah. He was going for big names. That was told scalps yeah he wanted he was going for big names that that's what was that was told to me and that also makes sense just made sense yeah it just made
Starting point is 01:07:29 sense and it's so crazy to be like in jail for life because someone made an example of you for their career dude happens it's like probably in this country like all the time yeah especially in this country it's like probably happens a lot, I mean, this is like the most incarcerated people per cabin in the world. Okay, so you think that there was like a guy trying to make a name for himself, sort of? I mean, what was the context
Starting point is 01:07:53 of that video getting? Because I know it's like, what, did he try to buy that video in the security version? Yeah, but they couldn't even use it as bribery, right? Because he did. Like, he did give the, whoever the security person was that was charged, he did give them $100,000 for the video.
Starting point is 01:08:09 But why didn't hold up in case? They wanted to use that for Rico for bribery. But there was no police calls. Right. So if the police are called and then he says, give me the tape, that's bribery and that's hiding evidence right right but because there was no police call you're allowed to buy the video i don't want this getting out right like yeah celebrity is he doesn't want that getting out but but a lot of these things is what they were trying to spin into the case that wasn't why didn't he make you sign an nda i was just
Starting point is 01:08:43 thinking that like when you first went there, why wouldn't it be like... You hear about Drake and Bieber and these guys and they have parties and people even less famous than that, they have parties and it's like the first thing that happens is a girl goes up to the guy's room and she signs an NDA. I'll tell you why 100%. Because he was hiding his identity
Starting point is 01:09:00 with the... He didn't do a good job of it because of the TV. He did. Yeah, the TV is he died he didn't do a good job of it he was on the TV he did yeah the TV he messed up because I literally I gave up
Starting point is 01:09:08 I was like who are these people you think at one point he just like looked over sees the TV and he's like oh fuck
Starting point is 01:09:13 I think what probably happened because it was shortly because dude my environment was two and a half years I did not two and a half years you no clue
Starting point is 01:09:22 no like 15 months 15 months and was there subtle clues looking back like while he was watching he was like humming bad boys for life like looking back there was it didn't but obviously the minute i saw i'm thinking the complexion the height you know i'm saying the body type or whatever. Psychologist. And then I felt like the dunce of dunce because I followed the dude on Instagram. You were watching this guy like, oh, did he's in New York? Anyways, I'm going to be going to this hotel tonight.
Starting point is 01:09:53 This is at the Plaza Hotel. Anyways, I'm also going to the Plaza Hotel. Yo, man. I felt like. Did you tell people? Once you found out, like your friends, were you like, can you get a load of this? I told a very small group of people. Because you can't be kissing and telling.
Starting point is 01:10:06 I mean, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you got to tell somebody. Yeah, I got to tell somebody. But come on, man. I'm going to my buddies like, yo, bro, you'll never believe this. Diddy's paying me to bang Cassie. And it's like, sure.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Yeah. Oh, no one even. All right. They wouldn't even believe it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. That's what's happening.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Uh-huh. And then I got like the vindication of life when the case came out. It was like, dude, he was telling the truth. You know what I'm saying? So that was probably one of the silver linings where it's like, all my stories are credible now. I could say, I just had sex with a Martian. And it's like, really?
Starting point is 01:10:43 What planet? My credibility is through the roof that's so funny they wouldn't believe you i mean that is crazy story yeah man yeah i mean it is pretty unbelievable but do you think there is i don't know do you ever hear that that like a lot of people will say all these rappers are gay like people say jay-z's gay and like all that Do you, do you really buy into any of that conspiracy? No. There's like. No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Cause you don't even think Diddy's gay. You think he was just had some weird shit. Well, I mean, look, man, all of these. Must be a little gay. Look, listen, right now, every and anybody who had something to say about Diddy has gotten on a platform and said it. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:23 True. And we're not hearing people coming forward saying yeah you think if there was some like male escorts or something like some like a s somebody would have told their story yeah somebody would or they would be involved in the case in some capacity and the case can be some capacity and the the gayest thing that we've heard is the is the nipple lathering right He's not 0% gay. But you could be gay, but you're not.
Starting point is 01:11:48 You could be like, clearly he's kind of gay, but he's not doing the stuff, you know? Yeah, he's not physically interacting with males. There's just nobody saying that. Do you think this is like a loss for 50 Cent? Because 50 Cent was sort of big on the idea that he was going away forever
Starting point is 01:12:04 and everything. Because you're like a New York guy, right? Sort of a New York rivalry between 50 Cent and sort of big on the idea that he was going away forever and everything. Because you're like a New York guy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of a New York rivalry between 50 Cent and P. Diddy. Well, I mean, look. One of the women on the stand is allegedly 50 Cent's baby mom. So if you've got a guy that... She has 50 Cent's child. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Yeah. So if you are... Listen, got egos, right? You know, you get, you, you. Especially at that level. Somebody you know, somebody you associate with that you don't really get along with. Now he's with your ex that got your kid and then doing the most egregious sexual stuff to her. Like that got to feel like every, you were connected to this woman for the rest of your life.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Yeah. Right. So I'm sure that's not a comfortable scenario. That got to feel like you were connected to this woman for the rest of your life. Yeah. Right? So I'm sure that's not a comfortable scenario. Crappy. Yeah, that's crappy. And so what I'm understanding, and I see everything now, a long time ago when 50 got in the business, he ended up dating one of Diddy's longtime girlfriends. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:05 So this is almost like that. Hold my beer. Like a hold my beer. You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, yeah, hold my beer. It's always about chicks, eh? But it seems like similar to like the NBA and stuff where you're like, there's this tiny pool of women available in these like scenes, you know? Like you hear about that in like the NBA where like literally there's's 10 chicks and they just get passed around.
Starting point is 01:13:25 They're like, yeah, Zion Williamson's girlfriend has been with five other guys in the NBA and they're just like, they're around. The male stripper community have that where you guys all have this little pool of groupies that all the guys are dating? It used to be. Not as much, but yeah. Do you think the internet changed that? So the internet has downsized the male stripper
Starting point is 01:13:47 business for whatever reason you know it's it's i think it's too much accessibility all the way around female strippers male strippers it's just the accessibility to nudity and sex and porn is so over saturated now right that it's not a big deal the way it used to. Do you guys ever get some powerful woman in Dubai flying you out to shit on them? The reverse? The reverse.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Yeah, I didn't get that call. Or anybody you know. Yeah, they want the girl. The princess? What do they call it? The Cleveland Steamer? The Cleveland Steamer.
Starting point is 01:14:27 The Cleveland Steamer. The Cleveland Steamer. All right. I felt like a big part of what you were talking about is just in general, kind of like general masculinity. And you were kind of talking about Andrew Tate in the book versus feminism and where it's at right now do you where do you think do you think that uh there's kind of like a push against masculinity you think it's coming back where do you stand on that conversation
Starting point is 01:14:54 because you sort of obviously thought about that stuff a bunch yeah i mean look guys like andrew tate and the red pill and all of that it's needed right it's needed because whether you agree with the message in totality like there is almost a uncomfortable place being placed on just being a man right just if you react like a man reacts you're toxic yeah you know what i'm saying so even even which is what what do you think the normal way a man reacts is like you you can't even look as appropriate as in or inappropriate was you can't even comp a woman walking down the street you can't even compliment her without a risk of you know what i'm saying being like on the internet yeah yeah yeah yeah like it's funny because i was
Starting point is 01:15:44 doing a joke about it and then i would ask like and some women would literally be like i was doing a joke about catcalling and then some women would be like it's kind of sucks i don't get catcalled anymore like they would like they some of them would be like admitting it they go you know i kind of liked it from time to time yeah yeah then the other ones are just like no you can never do it and then what because is is that level of control right if if you catcall a woman that likes you it's fine yeah you catcall a woman that's not into you now you're toxic and you're a creep right and so just being in a simple dynamic where it's like dag man i can't i have to you have to like almost mute right your your your nature right your nature has to be muted you know
Starting point is 01:16:27 to just survive in a place to be socialized yeah to be socialized and but they're trying to socialize you a little too hard maybe yeah well so but that's what it is so you let we let the guys like take them go over the top and then hopefully we could fall somewhere in the middle you know what i'm saying they went over the top their way he went over the top and yeah maybe somehow we could just get back in the middle but there is something was like as a guy when you you kind of like slowly get rid of these little things that you know like maybe like their aggression maybe it's fucking a lot of chicks maybe it's uh you know that you kind of like are uh like too wild maybe it's that your opinions are too crazy
Starting point is 01:17:05 it's like when you get rid of them like little by little and it all seems like nothing and then you just like kind of wake up and you're just like fucking antsy and depressed or something you don't even realize you like got rid of all this stuff that was like necessary or something bro you you what you what you're what you're saying is you completely lose yourself you don't know who you are yeah and then you wake up and you're just like floating or something. And it's just like weird feeling. Yeah, like all your authenticity is gone. You're just a whole bunch of do's and don'ts that you try to live by on a daily basis.
Starting point is 01:17:34 And it's like, that's what I went through, man. I got so trained. And I'm a male stripper, right? And I got trained to the do's and don'ts. Don't talk. Don't raise your voice. Don't speak this way. You have to communicate this way.
Starting point is 01:17:48 You have to be empathizing the feelings. And you have to, you know what I'm saying? It's like, yo, what is going on? Like when Me Too was happening, was there like a thing among male strippers where they're like, we got to tone this back a bit? Oh, yeah. It killed the business. Like a male strip club. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:18:01 Yeah. Male strip club used to be just like a female strip club where you had your general area but you had private lap dance areas you can do dances that were sexy and could actually turn a woman on and now everything has to be like when corporate like hr department all the interactions have to be wearing the construction outfit in the fire yeah like they ripped the corny ripped his shirt and poured a bottle of water like like this
Starting point is 01:18:29 like you had to make it like telegram over the top because if you you're at risk if you go into
Starting point is 01:18:37 let's say a private place just you and a girl and you dance yeah that is sketchy now it's just your word against her and if she yeah she's just like you went over the top and you're like this is what i do and she goes no that was too much for me yeah and and that's what's crazy that's my move yeah you're like he's he put
Starting point is 01:18:54 his crotch in my face you're like yeah but no even worse it doesn't even have to be that you a woman could go one-on-one get a dance with a guy that she's fine with and come back out and her friend says oh my god you let him do that to you she goes oh i didn't know he was going to do that he just did it and she can get shamed into now saying like oh actually yeah she's like oh actually no i'm actually a victim of this and has any of that happened has there been scenarios like that yeah man that's why my club, I had to cut everything. Everything. It's just dance on the floor.
Starting point is 01:19:30 In the glass. Yeah, yeah. No, what I want to do is, so if there's a group of five women here, normally you would take the girl and you would take her to a couch to the side. No, you're going to dance right here. So all her friends are witnessing. Everybody can see. All the cameras there. It's right in the middle of the floor. to dance right here so all her friends are witnessing yeah everybody can see every all
Starting point is 01:19:45 the cameras there is right in the middle of the floor so if there's anything uncomfortable it's it's there's more there's a ton of reasoning where and witnesses yeah they're not saying well he forced i said stop he kept going like you just got to be prepared for all of that you got like consent forms like is that even that doesn't matter yeah i guess you can't consent to a crime so yeah yeah it doesn't matter like like everything is consented to someone yeah that doesn't mean anything right yeah everything's like that's that's what i that's the point i made earlier so that so that yeah with the 10-year relationship and then one day i don't want to come on do it now that's coercion now like i said that was you know when you kind of look at it it's like i understand you're going to be like okay there's a double standard and and jury's going to be more
Starting point is 01:20:29 sympathetic to a guy that's just kind of like the way it is but you go when you whenever you be looking and you go okay if this was the other way around it would be there wouldn't even be a one percent chance it'd be anything you go okay that might be pushing it too far where he's probably gonna i don't know if he's gonna be guilty that's where i started to see it yeah whereas like a lot of times you can look at it and you go if this was the other way around it probably would be nothing but like if you go if this was the other way around where you go a girl was with a guy for 10 years and the guy was like she was making me have sex with her for 10 years it would be like not even a slightest chance right i mean we knew back when we lived in canada there was this in the height of the me too thing there was this female comedian who basically said like her boyfriend was one day her boyfriend came home and was like wanted to have sex and she's
Starting point is 01:21:10 like i don't really feel like it and he's just like come on and she's like i had sex with him and then she's like i now realize he raped me and we were like i like i was like what this is crazy yeah and she was gross like really gross like grosser than just way grosser oh man yeah yeah it was great well i thought i don't know i thought you made it because i've sort of uh tried to define this too but you made a list of you go you go what is masculinity and then you had like a list of the 11 things that you would say. Oh, that's a pretty good list. You said, number one, confidence. Number two, independence, responsibility, honesty, purposefulness, leadership,
Starting point is 01:21:52 integrity, assertiveness, logic. Nice. Emotional intelligence. And 11, physical strength. That's a pretty good list of, if you're going to say what it is. I think so. And then you're right.
Starting point is 01:22:03 On all of the, a lot of things that you do start to chip away. Like, for example, if you're gonna say what it is yeah and then you're right on all of the a lot of things that you do start to chip away like for example if you're not around men enough like buddies that are like challenging each other you could say that you know uh some of these things like purposefulness leadership uh independence might uh start chip away if you stop making decisions and the girl starts like bitching the guy around responsibility might start like chipping away confidence yeah you get confidence myself yeah so it's like all these things can kind of get like chipped away at life it's a weird thing where like life's trying to chip it away and it's almost like you have to like not let it yeah you gotta fight against it
Starting point is 01:22:36 man yeah gotta fight against the classic trope of the head if you if you look at the majority of guys that are in those those long- marriages, they're sleeping in separate rooms, they stop having sex, those guys are a shell of themselves. Yeah. All those things have been chipped away. My dream is actually sleeping in a separate room for my wife. I'm actually trying to work towards that. Yeah. Yeah, so it's these.
Starting point is 01:23:12 And so the bad thing about it is as it chips away, the message, aside from Tate and these guys, is that's what it's supposed to be. You know, that's what if you're doing the right thing, if you're just everything is basically ran and controlled and catered to the woman in your life. Right. And we believe that. Right. As men to you want to make a woman happy but right now happiness has been centered around just a trade-off of your sense of self right and you gotta you gotta find a balance yeah that's a good way to describe it yeah this is a bad trade-off there was but it's interesting like i even watched like i don't know if you saw Love Island, all anyone talks about it.
Starting point is 01:23:46 I'm not even trying to get into it like that. But the girls getting in trouble for saying offensive stuff and the one other guy, it's like a whole, there's like four different people that are in trouble with that, right? And it's funny because all the girls
Starting point is 01:23:58 kind of run the Love Island thing and they're all mad and the people are getting kicked off and it was kind of like in the male spheres, no one's getting in trouble for anything anymore and it really feels like there's just like two completely different like worlds that are existing where it's like there's the woman world where they have all these rules and they decide and then there's the guy world where none of this applies and the women if women tried to like cancel people in our world right now it
Starting point is 01:24:20 almost like just wouldn't work anymore no no it wouldn't work but that's not probably that healthy either there's just like two completely separate like siloed off worlds like ones run by women and runs run by men well i think a lot of the last 10 years has been women trying to be like yo we want to have more input into how things are run like kind of feminizing everything and they're like yeah you have your own little world i mean it's better when it's like probably separate yeah no definitely i agree with that. Because we just, first of all, we're logical, right? We're logical and intellectual.
Starting point is 01:24:51 And because a lot of women base things on what they feel, right? And we just, we're always going to have an issue with that. Because at the end of the day, we're going to come back to logic right so every problem that i get with a woman that i have is having the patience to get through what she feels when i can't make sense of it i know i just sure i can't yeah it's like an autistic there's a universal truth right there yeah yeah it's rough and the guys that do good at it is they know how to do the patience and they know how to speak to the feelings and that's the that's the trick but you usually our adjusting is to trade off right it's a trade-off right like is is yeah that's literally just okay that's why i'm
Starting point is 01:25:41 single yeah yeah because it's hard sometimes when you're like you are saying the craziest shit right now and the only way out of this is just to agree that you're right you know well i'm saying it seems like the other way around the guy i'm kind of saying that the girls that are like the best at men they don't like argue with you they kind of just go please like they kind of you know what i mean they just use their gifts they use their gifts which is just like guilt and you know just like almost crying and then every guy's just like when they argue guys it doesn't work so it's like the guys that are good with women they're probably good at like just letting them say all their stuff even though they're wrong and then just like
Starting point is 01:26:16 uh just doing what you're gonna do anyway and have them like it's almost like they'll like you if you're like hey we're gonna do this then they tell you why they don't want that and this and that and you go okay yeah that makes sense and then just do it anyway and it's all fine yeah like it's almost you know that's the guy version of how to get what you want you just have to accept that like let them think that but like i don't know it's a little tantrum yeah yeah but it's hard dude the softness of a woman we care about that's our kryptonite sure right so after the cryptid the the the argumentative that's that's right in our wheelhouse we argue over anything jordan's better than lebron like we'll we'll get into these senseless arguments because it's what we like
Starting point is 01:26:56 to do yeah i'm saying we're wired at this so when when a woman approaches us with that energy it's like this is what i do you know what i'm saying you're not necessarily going to win this way but some guys let them win right you let them win for the sake of not arguing but then you're muting who you then that's muting who you are yeah i know right like like like a woman's always going to have a better chance coming with the softness to please do this and then we'll give in just because we care about her but if a guy's letting her win the argument he's deleting something yeah that's why my wife is currently owing a thousand in arguments yeah yeah you can't you can't win you just that's what we can't do it it's not in there just let her let it slide yeah we will argue about anything just
Starting point is 01:27:42 because fellas i hope you are enjoying the interview with The Punisher. And just a reminder that every week me and Danny do a bonus episode. So if you're looking for an episode of me and Danny going through some of the stuff that happened this week, and there has been a lot to talk about. I went to the hot dog competition for one. Oh, baby. We wasn't there. Guest of honor of the hot dog competition. There's lots of stuff to talk about.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Check us out after you're done listening to this at patreon.com slash theboyscast for a bonus episode every single week. Patreon.com slash theboyscast. What do you think of Zoran Mondami? Do you think that guy would be good for New York? As a guy who's been here forever? So I don't know if... He's saying a lot of good things,
Starting point is 01:28:22 but I don't know if it's just the campaign part of it or if it's... If he can do any of that stuff yeah I mean Eric Adams is sort of he likes the strip clubs eh yeah yeah I'm an Eric Adams fan right yeah I like Eric Adams too I say it over and over again I don't get what the hate is on Eric yeah I'm an Eric Adams fan so I know I know there's guys coming in you know saying all the right things, but I think in New York, you're, you're kind of strapped, right?
Starting point is 01:28:47 It's so much you're going to really be able to do. Um, so no, I'm, I'm not buying in right now at the moment, man. I'm like I said, I'm an Eric Adams guy.
Starting point is 01:28:56 That's right. I, it feels like, uh, it's hard to even put your finger on why, cause I was sort of asking people why they hate him so much. And I think the best way that I described is like, know like you just see like gavin newsom is sort of slimy i think a lot of people see him as that where they're just like he's like kind of like
Starting point is 01:29:11 a slimy that's what i think i mean zoron is 10 times as slimy sure i'm just telling you what they think i don't i'm not really the biggest like eric adams i've been saying that i don't hate him that much either i i think we're going to identify with eric adams a little more because you know in politics there's a certain degree of slime anyway yeah they are cuomo slimy too yeah yeah but he he my dog he's a slime factor there's something authentic about eric adams slime right you know what i'm saying it's like all right this dude is just it is what it is 4 30 in the morning and so he goes something real about that yeah yeah yeah he's just you know who he is and where he's talking he's talking about fixing the
Starting point is 01:29:50 subway and the rats a little more than a guy that's like okay i'm gonna like change the world from my new york mayor position yeah yeah just more realistic stuff man like this new york is a complicated city man yeah it's a complicated city man so i don't know we'll see what happens but uh i'm an adams guy well we appreciate you coming in man giving us the scoop on everything so the final thing is if you say that you have all the you know i would say dealing with the case the be male stripping, escorting, all that stuff. What do you think the most true thing you learned about women's true nature that people don't realize? The thing that, and it's the reason why I'm never married.
Starting point is 01:30:51 man women women approach relationships strictly on security and stability that's really for the majority of them is the is the grounding point of what's important to them right so um you're always at risk with a woman in terms of your earning potential and the space that she finds herself in that she believes is comfortable right and the problem is it's an escalating scenario right it's an escalating scenario which he was happy with two years ago will may not be what she's happy with now and it never goes backwards and it never goes backwards so as a man you cannot get into a pattern of trying to make her happy because you'll be working because it's going to be a constant job a constant job and then and then she'll never fully be content if you look at a woman going out, right, she can get her hair done, her makeup's perfect, her dress is perfect, her shoes are perfect, her accessories are perfect.
Starting point is 01:31:53 And let her chip a nail right here and everything's ruined. Yeah. That level of perfection, right, as a man and trying to please that and accommodate that you'll never win so you have to find a way to maintain it's easier to say say the leader right but it's a fine line between being a leader and keeping your woman happy right so you but you can't relinquish your sense of self and leadership for her needs of happiness because then once it becomes about just her needs and it should always be make her happy but it has to be your needs as a byproduct of creating her happiness you know if you flip that you you're gonna have a problem with women
Starting point is 01:32:40 yeah period well said amen and then in search of freezer meat uh we can find it uh could amazon amazon audible barnes and nobles did you do that did you do the audiobook i did the audiobook oh my voice yeah yeah it's in my voice the voices and everything yeah yeah so yeah and i appreciate you reading it man like there's a lot of mention of the book but there's a saying it's easier to get somebody to buy a book than to actually read it so I'm glad
Starting point is 01:33:10 oh yeah I appreciate you taking the time yeah I read it this weekend I don't know it's funny right and again like I said I've a lot of that stuff especially when you're talking about like
Starting point is 01:33:20 you know the being younger stories of not getting up with girls it was just like flashing back to me. Yeah, I tell you, it resonates with every guy, man. It resonates with every guy, man. So, yeah, fellas, if you're listening, man, I guarantee you, man, you'll get some great information out of the book. Definitely some stuff you'll find entertaining and funny and take you back and resonate.
Starting point is 01:33:42 And I think it's a good tool. It's not just go out and get a penis implant book it's about our lives how our growth messes with our masculinity our relationships it's a lot of things that i learned over the years that uh i think it'll be a helpful tool to shed some light on some things and uh pick it up man yeah also i think that one you know the one thing that might get i might have maybe gets left out sometimes is the fact that it's also comes up in the book but you're like aside from you know the stuff with diddy and your book and everything you kind of have this like you are like this successful entrepreneur guy that like you know had you know
Starting point is 01:34:20 real estate you were buying properties you kind of had this reality show and you've kind of built this business so you you are like uh you kind of had this reality show, and you've kind of built this business. So you kind of have this entrepreneur mindset that you approach life for that comes through and everything, too. Maybe gets lost a little bit in all the ditty stuff. So what it basically is, the book would translate where what most guys would see as a successful life, right? I had it. I was on a path. I was doing my thing, and I don't care how successful life is yeah i i had it i was on a path i was doing my thing and i don't care how successful life is for you or whatever when you start experiencing sexual issues right and
Starting point is 01:34:51 confidence issues you could seem like from the outside everything is great but we all going through the same stuff man we all going through the same stuff and a lot of guys give up they just give up and say ah you know what my life sucks i'm just gonna no sex at home this will happen you just kind of fall into this almost place of depression but we're men we manage it we just get through it and you know the book is i went through the same thing where i'm supposed to be this sex symbol all these women whatever the case may be and i'm kind of depressed just getting through it and i just woke up one day like nah man i like life has to be more than this but this is shameful for us right so there's nobody to talk to like you're not going to call your buddy up and talk about yeah struggling in
Starting point is 01:35:36 the bedroom or why your wife's not sleeping with you or whatever so the book is like that conversation that you need to have right with somebody right yeah and then it's relatable because it's a guy that's going through the same thing you're going through that you would think would not be going through yeah yeah like like a escort with erectile dysfunction and more of a problem because you're like oh you think it sucks for you it sucks i promise you this is my livelihood yeah yeah and so So yeah So it's those stories You know it's funny To take you back
Starting point is 01:36:07 Yeah you had a problem Taking some four back To your van from the bar I'm losing out on Two thousand bucks tonight Yeah So yeah So I just wanted that too
Starting point is 01:36:17 I know when I was going to In my low points A book like I had Would have helped You know what I'm saying Yeah Would have helped like Oh wow this guy It's not a talked about thing I talk about it a lot on stage actually Like I do do a you know i'm saying yeah it helped like oh wow this it's not a
Starting point is 01:36:25 talked about thing i talk about it a lot on stage actually like i do do a lot of jokes about it but it's like it hasn't you know it isn't really the most like talked about topic for how big of an issue it is because who wants to talk about it you know what i'm saying right like even even i was not cool yeah like i'll do a youtube interview like this and i'll see a guy in the comments go oh that's crazy, man. I can't believe that guy's talking about that. I'm a fucking rock. And then I'll look on my website, and it's a text message.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Hey, what's the doctor's number? You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody's outwardly, you don't want to speak about it, but it's good to have a tool, man. So hopefully, it's been helping a lot of guys, man. I'm getting a lot of feedback. Sick. Hopefully, it reaches some more people and uh yeah check it out and then you know follow on uh on instagram
Starting point is 01:37:11 and twitter and everything but it's fun it's crazy because we've been uh talking about this story for like a year now so it's like crazy to have you on yeah yeah just to clear it up i do not have a pump in the garage not with set the PSI we were just ignorant we didn't know how it worked I appreciate you clearing it up
Starting point is 01:37:30 awesome awesome thank you very much brother appreciate it peace you guys man thank you
Starting point is 01:37:35 thank you

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