The Boyscast with Ryan Long - Responding to the Douglas Murray vs Dave Smith Podcast Wars, Dead Popes & Gays in the Taliban

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

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A recent study said that marriage may be linked to memory loss in men, with local man Peter Brown noting that after 12 years of marriage, he's had a very difficult time remembering being happy. Brown stared somberly out the window before continuing, I know in theory it's happened, before being interrupted by his wife Susan, who ran into the room screaming, Who are you talking to?

You know we have lunch plans with my sister today, or did you forget that too? To which Peter responded, Susan, I'm talking to the f***ing news. Can you give me two seconds for the love of God? Peter then stood up flustered to say god damn it i forgot what i was gonna say and for the record i'm ready so guarantee i'll be waiting on you to which susan cut back in to say if you want to talk about memory why don't you tell your little friends how you forgot to take off your shoes and track mud everywhere wait are you drinking a beer what

the f**k peter to which peter responded I can have one beer and not lose my mind, unlike you, Susan. To which Susan responded, you know what, let's just cancel. To which Peter responded, fine, I'll throw the beer away. To which Susan responded, no, you ruined it, we're not going.

To which Peter responded, stop being dramatic, just finish getting ready and I'll kick the news crew out. To which Susan responded, I'm being dramatic? You ruined our lunch we had planned for weeks? I hope you and your little news crew have a nice life together, to which Peter whispered,

we should probably finish this in the garage. The boys cast. The bros. Just the boys cast. The homies. Just the boys cast. The dudes. The experience. The boys cast. The boys cast. Daniel Poloschuk has flown in all night to get here.

And I'm here. And it was a nightmare. Man, the seats on JetBlue, so uncomfortable. They weren't happy with the seats. They didn't have the XXXL seatbelt extenders. No, they did not have the XXXL seatbelt extenders. And I had E. coli. Tim Hortons, you said?

Tim Hortons. Fucking bagel from the Tim Hortons Vancouver airport. That's how you know that country's gone to fucking complete shit You can't even get a fucking bagel anymore Without getting a cola If people don't know, Tim Hortons was a staple And then they actually, they took all the places And then a big chain bought them And then they started making all the stuff in a factory

Shipping it in, the quality went to shit No one's happy with it They started selling pizza They got rid of all the fucking main stuff And then on top of that They're giving you a cola. So to add insult to injury. It was quite injurious.

I think it was like an Indian factory or something like that. No. Or it wasn't an Indian company. No, it was a venture firm. Burger King bought it. It's a restaurant brand. But they have all these factories in Mississauga. Well, the big scandal, the initial scandal, this is literally the day that tim hortons dropped off is they used to actually bake their

donuts and stuff at the store yeah then they started flying and then they basically because they're all like um like uh whatever like it's not uh what's the word i'm looking for here my brain's fried uh bagel no no no they're like owner operator they're not like the chain doesn't own them all like starbucks like they're owner operated so then they told the owners they're like hey they're like you'll save like three cents a donut if we just make them as some facility and just ship them in and then you microwave them yeah no it's a for me i couldn't taste the difference that much but i've heard a lot of people secondhand complaining. Well, I felt the difference. So you're laid up in bed

from a Tim Hortons bagel. Literally, I would do my show, go home, and just curl into bed. That should be the platform of any Canadian politician. Be like, I'm going to get this fucking Tim Hortons business sorted out. And then just go to the bathroom every 20 minutes. So you were just punishing the toilet,

eh? Oh, buddy like to the point where i actually was like because it's like a condo that they put you up and so it's like you know all you're doing that yeah all the comics are like sharing and i'm just like i was feeling bad i was like oh my god i said a record for sure you just know fuck nobody's used that toilet more than me ever not sam talent yeah yeah nobody that stinks dude left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody. That stinks, dude. No pun intended. And then on top of that, the plumber influencer comes in and takes it.

Oh, if I clog that thing up, I just retire from comedy and just be like, that's it. That's what you would have I left it then. I can't face people in this industry

after the damage I've done. Never. I was just destroyed. I actually had, I'll tell you what, I had, I went to, I got tell you what. I had. I went to.

I got a haircut. And they tried to influence me at the haircutting place. It was your what? I'm doing it. They took the classes? Dude, I'm sitting there. I'm two seconds in. Fucking woman with like, you know, like a Brooklyn-y haircut.

Okay. And the whole, all the fixings, you know, just like. Sure. All the fixings of a Brooklyn chick. Comes up. All And the whole, all the fixings, you know, just like, all the fixings of a Brooklyn chick comes up. All the flair. All the flair. She's two seconds away from, like, I'm probably two minutes into the haircut.

She's in my face like this, blah, blah, blah. And I go, what are you doing? What are you doing? And she's like, oh yeah, we just film all this.

And I was like, is there an option where we don't? I don't want to do this. I'm trapped in there too. You're trapped in the thing. Oh my God. And I was just like, that's so crazy to be like,

at like a establishment to not ask them. Yeah, to not ask. Just be like, hey, you're just, you like,

you basically, when you entered, it's like when you go to a game. It's like you're going to a comedy show. Yeah, comedy show. You just accept that you're being filmed. Yeah, yeah, you're just like signing away all your rights in perpetuity. That's where it's like when you go to a game it's like you're going to a comedy show you just accept that you're being filmed yeah you're just like signing away all your rights in perpetuity that's where it's at man you're gonna be getting heart surgery the guy's gonna have his fucking

camera he's gonna have one hand he has to use his one hand because he has his thing up but i was just like this is crazy it's like it was really i get my haircuts by dudes that don't speak english this guy well this guy the main guy there would don't speak english but then he wasn't there so his minion came in and the minion brought the crew like very like that's honestly the best haircuts are from people who have very poor english i disagree man those cuban places i hate they're not cuban there's one guy i think i think he might be palestinian to be honest really yeah there you go might be enemies on the streets

but we're brothers in that chair I want to talk about the podcast but like there was a few funny things before that because well first of all huge news for you the Pope died so that's big for you I'm really hoping you know what I've been thinking about this

it's about time we get a Jewish Pope don't you think I actually been thinking about this. It's about time we get a Jewish pope. Don't you think? I actually was thinking that. Honestly? Like, what the fuck? Diversity in the pope. Yeah, there's never been a Jewish pope. It would be really fun if they do a chick.

Chick pope? That would be his last wishes, because he was like the super lib pope. He was the lib pope, but he kept calling people gay and stuff. Yeah, he went back and forth, right? That's why he's brought us a lot of joy, so we actually to do thank him yeah yeah remember all of his scandals well yeah what was the one i don't even know if i can say on youtube but he kept saying the uh no well we could just believe it he kept saying he was a vegeta no no he kept saying there was so much faggotry yeah that was the best that word i go there must be a translation thing going on here

there's no way he's just like the faggotry is out of hand in the church That's what I'm saying his that was his big scandals. He kept saying shit was too gay for him Yeah, then he but he's brought us with joy. I remember we had the black pope bit classic boys guys black They spin in They spinning This is deaf comedy jam As performed by Danny Polachuk Hey, imagine we had a black Black

Pope He had rams and shit On the popemobile There might be a Chinese pope Or Asian pope Asian pope Asian pope's like up there For like

Really? Yeah, yeah For the Cause they have like Their people who they think Are gonna get it I saw there was a black guy That was actually In one of the...

He might be potentially the conservative black guy. Oh, that'd be good. They should... You'd be happy with that? No, well, they should go full Conclave style. What's that? Do you remember the movie Conclave? You never saw it?

It was a big Oscar movie this year with Ralph Fiennes and Stanley Tucci. It stunk. Everybody was like, it was so good. And I watched it and I was like, but anyways, the big thing is, so they're picking a new Pope, right? That's gotta be a big deal, right? What? They must have a whole procedure for that.

Oh yeah. Do they do elections? Do they have to do debates? Oh dude, you've never seen Da Vinci Code or whatever? Hand to hand combat for the final stage. It's called Conclave where they basically all the I don't know if it's the cardinals or the bishops

or whatever they like everybody who's like in the running and all the people who do the selection they lock themselves in the Vatican

in this like and then they can't the last man to leave is the pope they can't leave until they've they've selected a pope and they have all these votes

do they leave the Vatican ever don't those guys live there anyway or like whatever a certain building like whatever maybe St peter's basilica or whatever but four men enter one pope oh buddy it's like 200 men or something it's fucking really and it's 200 men who've sworn off pussy so these guys want it i know yeah that's got a thing in the you almost can't trust a guy that's sworn off pussy and by the way because they always get say they get like a lot of gay guys there it's like yeah duh yeah i mean i guess people made that point but like imagine you're like you know you want

to be a comedian and you go the only thing is obviously you can never have sex with another woman again it's like well every comedian would be gay yeah yeah you know obviously i think column said that in ireland like that's the thing where when you have like like eight kids or whatever and there's one fruity one they send the fruity kid over and the suit yeah they send the fruity kid off it's kind of obvious you know but anyways conclave huge piece of shit even though it's critically acclaimed um but anyways the premise is that right at the last minute because they're like this one pope comes in or this one guy who's like in the running he's from like i can't remember somewhere in the middle east and he's like oh this the old pope like sent me a letter saying

to like come or whatever and then they like let him in and then they're like picking and they can't pick. And you know, there's all the front runners. And then they finally at the end pick this guy. But then his big secret is that he's a hermaphrodite. So he was actually the woman Pope. Yeah.

You're like literally that's a pretty good job. That was like literally like two hours. The payoff is like, he's intersex. I was like, shut up. They're like throwing popcorn at my screen. You beat it.

Fuck off. Miss me with that. Yeah. So yeah, I think that's what happens. They go in and then it's hand-to-hand combat. One Pope exits with the, you know, holding the carcasses of the other front runners. Pope Rock Lesnar. Yeah.

But he did that. He had the scandal where he slapped the woman's hand, if you remember that one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, basically. It's crazy because they're all just- He's had a couple of funny moments, man. but uh he did that he had the scandal where he slapped the woman's hand if you remember that one oh yeah yeah basically it's crazy because there's a couple funny moments man he was a big meme po he was the meme po yeah they're all vying for who gets to fucking wash homeless men's feet and the body's not even cold that is true though it is like you're you're begging for a job where you get to fucking kiss some feet kiss some dirty just kiss some dirty, the dirtiest feet. Like, you were, like, fucking on an episode of Jackass or something,

where you're like, literally, you go to Skid Row, the 10 most disgusting men. I'm Pope Francis, and this is washing a bum's foot. This is kissing bum's feet. It's like Steve-O just throwing up on the feet. The Pope's just like, what's the problem here? This is awesome, man. I don't know what you guys don't like about this.

I was actually saying that with the plumber influencer. Because you want a guy named Carl. I was saying the opposite of that is when a girl's going to get a pedicure from an Asian place, and then it's like Asian, Asian, Asian. And then just like a dude named Carl. it's like asian asian asian and then just like a dude named carl it's like let's get those toes out his hands are rough too you do actually see them sometimes at those places where there'll be like this odd just one asian dude not gay well yeah no you do not yeah sometimes you do i remember where i go mall of america when i

was doing shows there And they had I went to go One of those massage places He's gay I got news for you No I wasn't gay There's just all these Just old Asian men

Old Asian men Give fucking solid massages Let me tell you Yeah I don't like A massage by a dude Best massage I've ever had In my life Was from some

Old Chinese man in China I'll take a worse massage From a chick Yep Not I Bet you're about that life Yeah I support the boys. Not Ryan.

I guess his other scandal, he had the transgender chicks where he kept bringing the trans chicks in. But he was sort of like the lib pope. He was. He was like not your grandmother's pope sort of thing. You know what I mean? And he was like pro-immigration. I think people didn't like that that much.

So I guess that's a big dispute whether they get like a lib pope or a conservative i don't know yeah i don't know how it works because they all just vote i guess so they just so what happens like one for everyone in the they all just get locked in with all the candidates and then i think it's uh basically i think it's every day they like light uh like they're they everybody looks at the steeple or whatever and if black smoke comes out it means they haven't picked one and if white smoke comes out it means they have picked them so then every day they just sort of like a gender reveal for the kind of it is literally a gender reveal for the pope basically it's the og gender reveal and then they just

fucking all just you know get in there and they just figure out who the next pope's gonna be you think the pope makes a final request where he goes you know they read his will and testament and the last thing was like that i want any fucking you know don't want a sausage party at my funeral so it's like only fucking fit bitches just like a fun just fucking and he has he goes one thing and he goes this new thing is he goes i want my funeral to be like full fit bitches and my only request is the new pope's not hotter than me maybe they bring rats i don't want some pope with a bigger dick than me yeah that'd be tough you have to measure the dick and he doesn't want to be bigger than francis no no no you don't want to fucking alcapi francis on the on the piece but

in topic of you brought up tim hortons though that's been the big thing at kander right now because the election's right about there and then next episode there is dude have you watched the videos though so basically they do it's like this uh polyamorous carnie and the carnie's like uh kind of like 60 year old boomer lib right yeah and all of do they if you people are going and like filming at his rallies and stuff and every single person there is like 80 year old woman yeah and she but they're all doing the thing like the Mike Myers did on SNL where he goes elbows up. Elbows up.

So it's like, which is, someone told me that because at first I didn't know even what that was a reference to and they go, it's a hockey thing. You didn't know that?

Yeah. But then you're like, isn't that like a dirty play? It's a dirty play. Yeah. Okay. But they don't, these are 75 year old women.

They don't realize that. No, they don't get, yeah, it is. I mean, if someone's checking you and you put your elbow up,

you're like, obviously that's a dirty play.'s so weird but you're like defending yourself i guess right the guy's like yeah checking you from behind but like so the whole thing is these women are 80 years old and all of them there's people there like from conservative media and stuff like that and just being like asking them questions and this is like a bunch of 75 year old women being like fuck you fuck yeah they all they're all giving middle fingers like they all they're all convinced you're not gonna take our reproductive rights what reproductive rights right they think they're hip that's the thing right because in their mind they're like i guess when they were 40 they probably see it as like i was like in line with the college kids who were the cool and they still have that probably see it as like, I was in line with the college kids

who were the cool, and they still have that mentality where it's like, but yeah, and there's this guy, he's probably like 80 years old, and he gives the middle finger, and then everyone is making ads

being like, this is the face of- The liberal boomer? The liberal boomer. And this was- The guy was like, he used to run a brewery or something, so then the brewery was getting fucked.

Oh, really? Because everybody was boycotting, they were just like you know bombing their social media it's so funny though because i do know so many of those guys yeah where's just like the 80 year old that's literally it's just it's the guy who bought a house for 50 grand yes worth a million dollars now feels like a genius and he was like yes and maybe you shouldn't eat so much avocado yeah exactly oh you're eating too much avocado toast there. And then all of their policies, like, you know, like, fuck

over young people and help them, and they get to be like, well, you're a racist. Exactly, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he goes, I will outsource my job. I will secure my pension. I will lower wages. I will open borders. I will jail you for having wrong opinions. I will sell my house to foreign investors.

Elbows up. I've seen so many people doing the old lady things, being like, so what if you have to sleep on the street? Elbows up. Elbows up. Yeah. Elbows up in your tent city. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, well, as of now, it's Mark Carney's 85% chance to win. Yeah, he's going to win. But it is funny. If you watch the rallies with the old ladies and stuff like that it's it's literally like going through an old age home yeah where they were having like a that's the ball harris day or something yeah that's the base i couldn't i didn't realize the extent to which it was like oldies yeah oh yeah big time and yeah i mean they've always been big liberal supporters so but it has flipped like i was talking to people at vancouver show and like know, it used to be when

we were younger. It's like, yeah, the old people were the conservatives and the young people were the liberals. And now it's literally flipped where the young people are the conservatives and the old people are the liberals. The problem is young people don't vote like fucking 75 year olds. 75 year olds got nothing to do, man. Nothing on the plate. They got nothing to do and they're voting.

They make a week out of that voting. Oh, fuck yeah. They circle it on the calendar. They're ready to do and they're voting. They make a week out of that voting. Oh, fuck yeah. They circle it on the calendar. They're ready to go. Oh yeah, they know every fucking school that they can vote at. And they've already

mapped out their routes and they know the times. They've done the chat GPT of what time's probably the best to go for the least traffic, stuff like that. Yup, yup.

And then also, lastly, Kanye West, his final form, sucking up his cousin. Good for him, man form good for him man good for him good for him all his tweets

have just been trying to play it off like all these jokes about it now too he goes oh I guess I'm gay well it was sort of like in my opinion

there was two parts because he was kind of Eminem-ing himself a little bit where a little bit he thought he was doing the Eminem where he was like

yeah I sucked off my cousin. What are you going to say about it? Now what are you going to say about me? But I think more importantly, it was a sign that the Jews stuff was like, it's too popular now. Sure, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

The talking shit about Jews is just like, too many people have caught on to that that can get you followers. So he's sort of like well i need a new he's back to like i'm gay yeah i'm gay he goes has anybody done this has anybody is anybody doing this yeah yeah how about this i sucked off my cousin yeah i mean for him he's like i don't want to be doing the thing everybody's doing i think that's what it is i think he's on twitter being like everyone's biting my fucking style with being a Nazi. Because I started this whole thing.

He didn't start it, but he definitely popularized some of it. Yeah, he helped. He definitely was maybe somewhat of an early adopter from the first mainstream early adopter. Yeah, for sure. And I think that he feels like he's getting his style jacked,

so he's got to go the opposite way, where he's like, how am I sucked up my cousin? And then also there's maybe the other way where it's a Kevin Spacey thing, where it's like he was thinking that maybe this gets him out of the cancellation but i think if out of those three options yeah where it was eminem himself uh trying to reverse his cancellation by being sympathetic yeah or that uh the other the nazi stuff was just getting a little played out i think he was the nazi stuff him. I feel like this strategy would work better for him if his audience

wasn't so black. Black people don't love that stuff. They go, dude, we were fine with all the Jews stuff, but come on, man. This Bati boy stuff. Come on, man. Yeah, that's what I've been saying. That's the three people

that agree, or the two people that agree or the two that the two people that agree is uh jamaican men liberal women nothing funny about gay jokes gay jokes ain't funny nothing funny about them nothing nothing at all funny about it no sir yeah but the there has been podcast wars going on, my friend. People have probably been paying attention. Douglas Murray versus Constantine versus Dave Smith versus Jordan Peterson. Yeah. Everybody's getting into the mix here.

How accurate have we called the fact that Israel-Palestine breaks up every coalition? Yeah. It literally was... That was the end of every coalition yeah yeah like it literally was that was the end of every i'm actually the every coalition of like people has been split up by that yeah it changed the whole game changed the whole game i know i'm curious what people like because so many people have just like made it their whole thing and then i'm like because it is going to end at some point i was saying that i think people including myself are just like a little sick of

talking i feel that my normal like is this just covid where they go yeah we just move on to a new thing like are they gonna be like long gaza people who are just like i have i have long gaza and i just go i still talk about it you go like you know eight years later you go it's not safe for them out there you go everybody what are you guys just go to fucking birthday parties with no masks on well in gaza yeah there has always been those people yeah but i think there's a whole new group of people what do they do what do they do i do agree with that 100 though in real life i'm just like i could tell that everyone's like you know because i have a lot of jewish friends that are like really hyped up about it like especially in comedy and then i have a lot of friends some which are jewish that up about it, like especially in comedy. And then I have a lot of friends, some of which are Jewish, that are very hyped on Palestine.

I can even feel everyone just being like, I'm getting a little sick of talking about Jews nonstop. That's tiresome. I do. Do you not feel that way? Yeah. I mean, it's just boring. Yeah.

I mean, it was definitely funnier and fun for a bit. And then you go, I don't know. But the podcast war thing is very interesting because, uh, I'll tell you the first part is, uh, I listened to Jordan Peterson

on Rogan 2. Yeah. And people are even like killing him. People are, dude, people were saying like, Rogan's done.

Like all of Twitter was like, Rogan had a good run. Okay. Okay. Sure. Yeah. You said that he had Rich Voss on the next day

and he had his music up. That was the best. Literally like all the fucking hard like anti-jew people were like oh looks like Rogan got the call yeah cause he had Rich Voss on with this big star of David and you're like Rich Voss

that's who the big guns sent in that's who Netanyahu called up Rogan I got your next guest for you I won't take no for an answer who is it BB Rich Voss I was hanging out with him this weekend your next guest for you i won't take no for an answer who is it bb uh yeah rich voss yeah and we're not taking us but i was hanging out with him this weekend he's a fucking goat but um but just the idea that like people who don't know who rich voss is thinking like oh this guy's probably

yeah because people the people that were saying that didn't really know that what was going on yeah yeah they just see this jewish guy and they're like oh it's like obviously dude jordan peterson it's much like i guess you know he's in the thick of it and people were calling him an israel shill and stuff like that that guy is so funny like dude i listened to that interview at one point he goes he's like you know i'm gonna i'm gonna do a an analogy here that's a little complex so it's gonna be hard for me to get the words perfect because it's such a complex concept. But so in Pinocchio, he goes back to Pinocchio.

That's all he'd every single thing is just a Bible story or a fucking children's novel. Like he's just playing the hits. I guess he but he relates. It's interesting. It's like, I guess everyone has Their like framework For something But like He sees everything As always can relate

Back to like Snow White Sure Pinocchio Beauty and the Beast Yeah And then Adam and Eve Like every

If you were with your buddy though And it's like Every single thing You'd just be like You know this guy Is a fucking idiot He goes That reminds me of the time

Job actually Yeah alright Like Perentius 45 or five four like everything With him is back to there and then At one point he said With Adam and Eve Adam's a cuck Really call Adam a cuck Yeah he goes

Jordan I think he's talking about How basically That like women Have like Their bet the psychopaths are better at manipulating women because of their temperament and everything and he was saying that Adam but then Adam wouldn't put a stop to it

because he was a cock some version of that I like it I'm only like a quarter of the way through that episode but yes then Douglas Murray went on Sam Harris I guess all these people have like Sam Harris I've never been a fan of but like Douglas Murray Brett Weinstein Dave obviously he'sris i guess all these people have like sam harris they've never been a fan of but like douglas murray brett weinstein dave obviously he's a buddy like all these people kind of know and friends in the pod too sure so it's but israel palestine has split a fucking

wrench in the whole thing i mean everybody's that's the thing that was like my biggest objection to douglas murray was and you know he's probably he's got pretty killed on this was the whole like oh you know like you can't have opinions on stuff like if you haven't been there and you're like this whole space is literally just the opinion industry like the podcast business is like we're all in the business of just having opinions about you're never gonna catch me also on the you're never gonna catch me on the side of these ideas are dangerous like you're just like yeah and that's just temperament of us too but you're never gonna catch me being like that's danger oh yeah those are dangerous ideas well you know what too when you're talking about the uh like the expertise or whatever there is

like oh well the first part is kind of like there's like a risk tolerance thing that i was kind of thinking about where it's like you know kind of you can have what's what you prefer and then doesn't all you don't obviously have to be preferred like in america obviously it's like probably better for people who are at like it's better place to like be great and but it might it's probably not better than some places to be the bottom rung like obviously if you're homeless you want to it's probably better to be the place where they're just like pouring money on you of course you know what i mean yeah but there's also uh i feel like america has that with like ideas as well where it's like because if you think about it a lot of the british people were on the other side it was kind of and

it's like that idea of like things are dangerous and stuff like that i feel like other countries cycles don't move as quick so the danger like in America, maybe I'm not explaining this that great, but I think my point is sound. So there's always an arbitrage opportunity when everyone's wrong. You know what I mean? Yeah. So when the masses are wrong and the idea is like these ideas are taking place and everyone's wrong, it feels like in America, to some degree when everyone's wrong about something there's like

a business opportunity in like calling that out well because a lot of people inherently know it's wrong too yes like the thing is there's like a lot of like you know the classic thing would be like the fucking trans women in sports where people are just like yeah you can't say it and everybody knows it and then people just start saying oh i like this guy this guy fucking well someone's finally someone's finally someone's finally saying it you know what i mean it's like makes me feel crazy and that he says and that like system kind of like levels out the idea so like you look at it you go it's dangerous and you go well it feels like the old system broke down and then now everyone's kind of like debating

out what the new system looks like and that's happening yeah and that's what's supposed to happen yeah and also like the your poll like when you do like when dave and douglas murray debate or whatever like they're the point of it is for not for them to change each other each other's minds like the point of this is like someone watches this with like you know maybe doesn't really have an opinion and you're trying to change their mind or make them make up their mind about what they think about this i guess and i guess the end goal is you go yeah i got like 80 of people agree with me so this is like yeah what are the people changing and i think there's also a ton of people that just like listen to both and it's like okay that gets out like dude if they weren't if it wasn't so polarizing so many people would

probably be like all right that's kind of a good point like even like the douglas murray thing even though like when he was saying i do get the idea of like one of the things that's all i've never liked is when comedians say i'm just joking but they're not yes like if they go because there is jokes where you don't well you don't believe what you say and then there is jokes where you do believe it right so someone goes oh you're getting mad at me for a joke and you're like but you don't you don't you think that right like if my joke was that I think they need to get rid of immigrants, right? And then they go,

oh, were you joking? So you don't think that. You go, no, I do think that. You go, well, it's an opinion in a joke. Yeah, exactly. So it is your opinion. So I have accountability for it. Yeah, absolutely.

So I do get the idea of where he was kind of saying the jelly thing where he was like, you know, a lot of people kind of are like, well, I'm an expert on this. But then when you push them, they're kind of like, jelly thing where he was like you know a lot of people kind of are like well i'm an expert on this but then when you push them they're kind of like well i'm not you know but i go i don't think that's dave does that no like i think dave takes accountability for he goes like if you argued with dave like he he doesn't say like he doesn't say well i'm not you know he says that uh he would say like these are my opinions tell me where i'm like yeah exactly so i just don't think that's a fair criticism of dave because he doesn't really do you know he says that uh he would say like these are my opinions tell me where i'm like yeah exactly

so i just don't think that's a fair criticism of dave because he doesn't really do that no he doesn't do that i mean some people do that but yeah dave doesn't really i mean every now and then he was like i'm just a well-read dumb comedian or whatever but like scholars like yeah but he if he was arguing against someone like when he argues when he gets in debates he doesn't also go and i'm just a pot he yeah he does say like yeah i'm and i'm arguing this side yeah i'm arguing this side he goes i read about the shit all day and i'll take accountability yeah exactly i'll take accountability for that i mean at what point do you read about something all the time you'd be like yeah i'm i'm definitely some kind of expert and everyone's opinions just come from somewhere

like kind of right like yeah i mean even like they're you know they're talking about daryl cooper so much you're like you know the guy's like i mean obviously he wasn't in world war ii all he can do is just read books about i about his argument on that is like well you can't go to world war but you can go to israel it's like yes also it's also true that it would probably potentially help to go to tourism and war but then on the other hand you go sometimes you go to these places and you come back and you go you know because i've always said whenever people are talking about like toronto right they they're like or places that you've been to where you're like they sort of get it right but they don't get the levels right yeah so whenever you go to a place i mean new york city

is the perfect example of that it's like dude how many people are like man it must be fucking dangerous yes yes yes and you're like yeah there's like, dude, how many people are like, man, it must be fucking dangerous. Yes, yes, yes. And you're like, yeah, there's like a block that's dangerous. Yeah, they don't get the extent. You know what I mean? Like you go, whenever someone says like, oh, this is a big problem. One is they don't get like how much it actually affects your daily life. And then the second one they don't get is like the amount that people care where you're like,

imagine in a city you're like, oh, everyone hates and then they go but you're like yeah but they also think differently about politics than you so it's like yeah they think he's a clown yeah so he's like an eye roll but it's not the way that like americans are so a lot of times you're like you don't get the little intricacies of the thing but sometimes also going in to uh you also can come to America and just come to New York and then you go back and you go, oh, this is how America is. Yeah, exactly. You probably have to be there for a while to really understand the nuance too. And the idea of really be submerged in it.

Douglas Murray was like, oh, you need to have like, if you bring these people on, bring experts. You're like, but they talk about 50 different things in an episode. You're like, bring some guy on. Yeah, he talks about Israel for 15 minutes and then talks about something else. And then you can't bring an expert on every topic on. I don't even know what the proposal is.

It's just like, yeah, these are just guys talking. I don't know. If you don't like it, go watch something else. I guess they're like, oh, you have a big platform. You have an obligation. He's like, no, I don't know. If you don't like it, go watch something else. I guess they're like, oh, you have a big platform. You have an obligation. He's like, no, I don't. Well, I guess, I mean, everyone,

whether you have an obligation or not, you make choices. Obviously, Rogan's not like, he's just like, first 10 people to message me gets to do the show. He obviously curates. He curates what he wants to curate.

I don't know how it's any different than CNN, where CNN was like, yeah, we tell the stories we want to tell and then people just rebuke them on mass because they were like yeah you guys are lying to us and this is shit and then we go we don't watch it anymore

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like yeah you don't have anybody taking the other side of this and you're like yeah maybe not on this show or twitter or twitter or whatever but i mean there are lots of people on twitter but you're like you're like yes there are tons of people taking the other side of this like if you go watch fuck i mean literally the united states federal government like is just like if you go to like currently pushing back currently like if you go to a fucking protest they will cancel your visa or like not admit you to the united states based on like your tweets like there is a there is a large pushback to this so it's like at the very least to say that this is just this one-sided thing is yeah it's ridiculous yeah so to me it was just like this is the fucking market

of ideas working how it's supposed to well they're acting like that's like rogan is the center of that universe i guess but you're like it's like this vacuum or something or this like insular thing where you're like no this is just one piece of the entire media landscape and you're like if you take it as a whole then you're like it's probably fairly balanced yeah yeah i don't know obviously francis is a boy and i like uh constantine i don't know i actually haven't talked to francis exactly where he stands on this but i remember kind of to be honest i remember even when we were arguing a little bit about the, um,

uh, like progressive stuff. I remember even at the time, uh, I was a little, uh, uh, disagreed with his opinion there because he was a little more like,

um, this is the end of the world. You can't do comedy anymore. And I was kind of like, those people are idiots. They're ruining their credibility. There's a new industry that's going to take it over, which I think has happened. Dude, I was talking to Ari's recording.

He did his new storytelling show that got canceled in the midst of him being canceled and stuff like that. And then, so he brought all of his boys, which are the biggest comedians in the world. Dude, fucking Nate Bargatze flies in on a PJ to do one set and fucking leaves. And then, you know know and that man but who knows where that ends up or whatever but i'm sure it'll be this like hugely dominant cultural thing in comedy and you're just like that's people like figuring out what the new fucking world looks like it's like it's uncharted and i think a lot of people get like uncomfortable in unchartedness

you know yeah i mean people like certainty yeah but i feel like i don't care i don't care but you have me and you have a higher like risk tolerance so i think it's a risk tolerance thing you know it's like there's a certain thing where people are just like this might go in the other like if in their mind imagine even if we agreed where they go there's like a two percent chance this is gonna be like the everyone's gonna be like a nazi you know what i mean and i'm like that's so low it's not gonna it's like i'm not that's not a worry of mine no again there's that it's very low when the federal government is doing what the federal government's doing right you're like they're they're course correcting so hard on this shit where like you know it's it seems difficult

to believe like if anything they'll probably make more people start thinking that way but like again you're like i don't know it's still a minority of all people like you go talk to people on the fucking main street like they're not i think i don't know i think you're uh again we me and you always disagree on that yeah i i no i i i have people in my family people in in normal life that I meet that are, yeah, they're consumed by this issue. Yeah. I mean, a lot of, yeah, a lot of people are. Dude, every media source talks about it nonstop.

Every social media platform is talking about it. If you're on TikTok, it's all fucking this shit. If you're on Twitter, like, so I think that you really have to be living in a rock. I'm not saying no one is. Well, I'm not saying people don't know the people who aren't paying attention to this is the people aren't paying attention to anything yeah that's true i don't think there's a version where you're hey man i fucking like i see this on a weekly basis at least like you know they had you know the connors the show the connors yeah and they're like they just had their series finale what that's a show still exactly with fucking gangbuster ratings ryan like probably is crushing it yes and you're like

who watches this shit like all these fucking bob loves abby shola and it's like 19th season you're like who watches any of this shit like you you you see this and you go there's a whole other world of people out there who are like living in a different you don't have to be in you can be in both worlds again i guess ranking through ncis seasons you know that about me i understand that but i'm just saying you don't fucking like have like a reminder set so you can catch episodes of The Conners live every Tuesday night at 8. But like 5 million people

do in America. Sure. Okay. But we're not talking about those. We're talking about this world where it's like probably our podcaster friends versus our comedian friends to some degree you might say. That's the split a little bit. But again, I was at the seller party

and i was kind of talking about this with people like i have plenty of comedian friends that are on the douglas murray side of like this is dangerous and i'm just like i think you're like overreacting is kind of my opinion yeah yeah i mean i understand the like the argument for this is dangerous is like well you know it's just like you just kind of keep letting it happen until it gets too far and it's always back to a safety danger issue. That's what it is. It's literally like, well, they're like, you know, you let this get too far. And then eventually you're like, it's too late and there's no going back.

And that's the pro-Douglas Murray argument, I suppose. Yeah. They go, yeah, you can just like kind of tolerate this until you're like it's reached such a critical mass where you're like you can't i guess to be fair their argument would be kind of like that well we're not we're not uh telling them this should be censored or anything we're just arguing with them right yeah that would be their kind of argument but i think that to some degree they are kind of like you know it's irresponsible just those words like it's irresponsible to have him on like all that sort of stuff like and also that's again it's just like a cycle it's like it's very possible have him on like all that sort of stuff like and also that's again it's just like a cycle it's like it's very possible rogan's like okay i had all those guys on

it's like i gotta get that thing now and like he moves on to the next thing i mean it'll end at some point it's like no matter how you slice it it's like someone gets insanely popular people are going to want to have them on their platform yeah because it's like interesting you go you know like when andrew tay becomes the biggest guy in the world and they're like don't have mine you're like i don't know like everyone's talking about this guy it's like interesting to everyone you're like it's interesting what's the deal here what's going on let me see for my and i think rogan's in a position where you're like we're like you know what i'll just see for my own eyes what's this guy's deal uh-huh yeah hey come in and tell me your deal you're like got this crazy popular message like do i think this guy's like bullshit

or do i think he's telling the truth? Come in and I'll fucking, let's chat it out. Yeah. Which I don't think is unreasonable for him. And again, it's his show. I don't know. It's like, again, if people really dislike it, like if he, you know, had in like people were, you know, Larry David did that super lame thing.

I don't know if you saw it. What did Larry David do? Oh, you didn't see that? I think I did see the bill bill maher had his thing about uh meeting with trump and it was like he was like better than expected and then larry david wrote an op-ed and like the new york times is like my ld my dinner with hitler or whatever and it was just like this basically the same thing but just like oh i met with hitler it's like 1939 great guys like totally like misunderstood thing essentially you know doing that thing we're calling trump hitler which

nobody's done before but uh i don't know what my point was here but essentially you're like i don't know like look it's just like it's like no podcast stays on top forever no tv show stays on top forever you're like eventually if you piss off you're like a majority of your audience and they don't like it then they'll go move somewhere else yeah sometimes and then sometimes you get new audiences could be yourself yeah i try to stay with what i think that's why it is important to have like actual people in your real life like friends and people that kind of have good opinions that you can that you're uh you're not just like in a world and twitter's your only input like i do think some people are kind of like isolated away and their only like input to themselves is twitter

yeah oh worst input you start yeah you start believing like the world's like you start believing things are like fucking insane yeah yeah for sure like if you fucking if you're on the internet and like your only like opinion of like what exists is cat turd like you're like hey man that guy busts his ass well that's the opinions where you're just like see that tweet oh yeah he's like literally like i guess he's saying he's like shadow man or something and then he's like i bust my ass tweeting 12 to 15 hours a day on here. And he's like, my money's dried up from my tweets. What is he? Mostly like a, we need Patriot water kind of thing.

No, no, no. He's just like his engagement, like has gone down or something. And he's like saying, no, I said, what does he post? Oh, like literal, like laughing at a quote. American flag. No, literally just like, ha ha ha. At a New York post article. Busting his ass 12 to 15 hours a day in Twitter mines.

It's ridiculous. I lay all of this at the hands of TikTok. Because this is why I say that TikTok, you know my theory. Twitter monetization was a huge mistake. But Twitter, I have to go both ways because Twitter did, that platform is garbage. Yeah. However, that being like the free speech platform made other companies like bullied other companies.

Cause like the, if you go, we'll allow way more other companies sort of, it's like, you need to be a cartel to like properly like sensor. So the, that had a positive effect on other companies. Whereas Tik TOK with their algorithms and short

term fucking will send you what you like for three seconds yeah that had a negative effect on everything but that had a negative effect on other platforms because other platforms had to be like it's literally going into a grocery store and you're like you know i want to uh i walk into like a health food store and then everything's cake on the wall. And you're just like, well, I followed these people. You're like, we don't care who you follow. And you're like, but I walked into a health food store and they go, yeah, well, too bad. We don't care what you walked into. We just want, look at, you looked at that cake for three seconds.

So we know you want more cake. And you're like, no, I'm obviously I have to try one. I like cake. I'm not saying I don't like cake. Obviously I'd like titties, but like I didn't choose to go to a strip club right now if i fall i didn't even follow any fucking like yeah yeah and they go we don't give a shit we know you like it yeah here's it always and i think that had a negative effect on the other platforms whereas the twitter although they made their own platform worse i think it made other platforms better so that's where i give it yeah well i i

agree because i don't know if you noticed on youtube but like i on low value mail like a few weeks ago because there was some article or something or some story and remember how like we used to have to say grape instead of rape yeah yeah and then you go up here everybody's like like and i said rape 400 times and fully monetized okay it doesn't matter anymore it's over it's over yeah but i think twitter's has that yeah and i was like i was just talking in the reference and i was just like i'm 40 years old i'm not saying grape i'm not saying grape i'm not saying that like literally i never said great no i never said it either but you'd see like you're alive yeah i'm alive like you can say suicide now it's like totally fine or whatever but But there was this period where literally adult men are like,

you graped her. Shut up. Grape stinks. Aren't you embarrassed? Definitely not. Aren't you embarrassed? Grape is terrible. And literally, YouTube's probably like,

oh, they said grape. There's nothing we can do about it. Everybody knows exactly what they mean. Foiled again. Ah. Gra great was ridiculous there should be a fucking software where you can just go back to all your old videos and just remove the time you said grape just so it's not like anywhere yeah so that blazes the hell hole if you believe that that's the world you're no but it's the monetization has made it fucking brutal I know because you know all the Indian

like engagement farms you don't need to tell me it's a fucking hellhole and agree get rid of it because it's not incentivizing anything they wouldn't be doing it if they couldn't see you have a different solution I have the same problem I have a final

solution Ryan I actually do know the solution by the way which is what other platforms do but again i will blame tiktok for this the solution is you can't monetize other people's content well that obviously i actually had most of the engagement slop is fucking stolen shit yeah i actually had my first uh dmca notice on twitter ever what did that say two days ago i woke up stealing chris farley's body type i opened twitter and my account was like locked and i was like what i'm like what the fuck and i didn't even poke because i was sick so i like i

didn't really be posting oh what did i post that i got a dmca notice and then like they didn't and i just like said like sure and then i like unlocked my account and then but didn't say what the thing was i go and i looked through my videos i didn't see anything and then i got an email like the next day and it was i posted a uh clip of when hunter biden went on jimmy kimmel oh you posted jimmy kimmel clip but i posted it in like november so kimmel started uh getting but i don't know if it was like hunter biden or what but it was like this hunter biden clip where it was just like it was so insane because it was i never seen it was hunter biden he was basically talking about

the laptop and how he was like i was so fucked up like i didn't even know what was going on and like jimmy kimmel was very much like you know uh going along with it and very like you know it felt like very puppet shit kind of on jimmy kimmel's part but anyway i posted it like just being like what a weird fucking segment and i posted it in november and then two days ago they just like dmca'd me i've never even heard of that on twitter man but i'm like i get it if you you get it within two days like there has been remember ray gun when when her shit was happening and everybody was going crazy on her and then the olympics did it for everybody so it's like every person who would like tweet like making fun of ray gun using like the nbc

clip big places but they do it immediately they don't do it five months later yeah yeah yeah really weird yeah what is is kimmel's randomly five months later trying to scrub war it's the fucking he got the auto pen joe so they don't like it sleepy sleepy joe biden's not so sleepy he's actually on the case yeah the other thing is with the expert stuff i feel like my grape was always my grape my grape was always a grape that it wasn't so much of like like who's an expert and who's not it was just like a lot of things that people say are expertise are really just um schools of thought yeah like ever ever talk to someone who knows a lot about a topic like you know i have a buddy who's like a philosophy professor you'll be like oh this and this and this will be like yeah that's voltaire's theory and that's like everything's been everything

schools of thought right so a lot of but a lot of experts have different schools of thought so when they're talking about like economics someone would be like well yeah all that i'm an expert in economics and i think this and you're just like yeah but there's also that's one of this and there's also economics economists that think the other thing absolutely you guys could both have master's degrees for like you could both be like phd like econ from harvard and think differently so a lot of times when you have an expert you have an expert even if he's debating against a non-expert a lot of times the non-expert is really just debating the other

experts yeah also experts were fucking wrong about everything for the last five years so we're not doing experts anymore that's another part of this whole thing like a huge piece we're not doing that huge piece of this entire puzzle here is you're like yes we actually had like reverence for experts until covid happened and then you're like you guys fucked the whole thing up yeah and so they're like we're like okay well then what what is an expert like i don't know like i guess you do your best like you know my mechanic i i trust him to be an expert in you know fixing my car well i think the truth is like in your normal life i have like seven or eight people that are generally right is like you go i guess it's an expert right but

don't you have people that have like generally been right like have really good track records absolutely so if you're like if you're like oh i follow these seven or eight people they're like mostly right yeah and then you go if they all agree that's like a pretty good sign absolutely if all of the people in your life that are always right like all kind of think something and if they all like right now you might be like it's fucking split down the middle right well you go well these are the experts you go but those people have all been fucking pretty right about everything as well. Yeah. So you're kind of in a situation where you're like, well, now this one's wishy-washy.

I mean, maybe sometimes there's not an answer. But that's what I'm saying. That was my whole point is that it's schools of thought at that point. Yeah, exactly. So it's like people have opinions, I guess. But that's like a philosophical thing where you go, well, yeah, so there's, oh, I get it. There's like a split thing where you go well yeah so the there's oh i get it there's like a split in like philosophy philosophy on this and i think that you know how they say everything's just packaging and unpackaging yeah i think a big part of it is like certain people when it's

unpackaged like really sits annoying with them yeah like once you know everything gets unpackaged and then they're just like all right we need some order here like you know yeah like i mean i agree with like dave where he's just like you know dave's a libertarian he's just like i don't like war the war is bad and i don't want the american government my tax dollars going for to it and i'm like yeah i i agree with that i mean in terms of the war is a bad thing you're like i mean they happen and there is one and all you saying it's you don't like it doesn't matter it's just like it's kind of ignoring the reality a bit well that's always the accusations of libertarians period yeah exactly they live in fucking fantasy land but um they

just don't that's i guess that like what people would say yeah yeah generally but you're like yeah i agree i'm like yeah war is bad and i'm in a perfect world there would be no wars but you're like there is a war like all the people who are just like yeah I just like is Israel just like shouldn't exist you're like well it is and it's not going anywhere so you need to figure out something some new way of media well you're kind of having a different debate because to me that's fair you're are you're like having the debate they're kind of this I'm talking about the conversation of like whether the debate should happen oh yeah you know what I mean it's almost two different conversations like the one is like whether they should you know who

should be talking about this and what's the debate and the other one is like in the actual thing I agree with you I you listen when you when the two people are actually debating you're like I'm often like okay there's so many friends on both sides of this and I'm like okay I kind, there's so many friends on both sides of this. And I'm like, okay, I kind of see that point. Like,

and also I'll go with you. Like the, I don't love like the, maybe just boring to me a little bit, but like, I don't love the, like constantly the always have to go back in time and being like, this was actually the people that would,

cause every, uh, every like video right now or like title or thing has to be like uh why they're complete like why this is completely different from what you've heard right yeah yeah you know what i mean so like the constant like relitigating of every last thing is a little like here's like what why what we knew about mal was wrong like why we knew about this was it's like there is a little bit of's like what why what we knew about mal was wrong like why we knew about this was it's like there is a little bit of like all right like yes probably like we're wrong about some things like yeah but then i guess this one's more like you know i'm sure there's some books

that didn't make it out some favorable books that didn't make it out of the out of the little scrum but yeah i mean scrum yeah i could do get a little time i do get yeah there's the parts of it where it's like not my taste or whatever but the part that i yeah is my taste is like i'm never i'm just not like a i really do think it boils down to like a risk thing where it was like yeah i think but i think the alternative alternative of the risk is worse. Yeah. Where you go, yeah. And it is kind of like the- That's why it's a good country is because everyone questions everyone.

Yeah. No one trusts anyone. The whole idea too of like the- Only the paranoid survive. Right. That's a country. Yeah, yeah. That's true.

But the idea of the two that like people like, it almost is a leftist idea a bit where they're like, oh, you can't have these conversations because people are too dumb to decide for themselves which is some degree true it is some degree true but so what yes that's politics too then you don't have democracy i know you're just like that's like that used to be the the big like liberal thing was like man everybody's like people are just too stupid to make their own decisions we need need to do it for them. And you're like, well, it's not what a society is. I don't want to tell you. And society is always...

We're literally ruled by the dumbest 50%. That's just how it works. And also, on top of that, it's always going to be a situation where you have, like, smart people and then charismatic people yelling their ideas. Yeah.

Like, you kind of have... How many times, you know, politicians are all like if they're allowed to talk about it like i mean tim waltz is allowed to have opinions than anybody's like i don't know tell you like it's not necessarily about the smartest best ideas it's about selling the ideas yeah so i kind of like when i talk to a lot of people that are kind of on that side it's not that i don't understand their look what they're annoyed by it's like anyone can go on twitter and be like yeah this stinks like it's like yes i get it fucking jews are the problem like you know what i mean yeah got it

like you know what i mean but at the same time i'm just like it's not to me it does feel it's just not the scent like the biggest worry in the fucking world universe no no i'm much more concerned about this china situation what are you concerned about this whole trade war thing man you're concerned about the trade war more yeah yeah yeah that's the thing i was i was listening to this podcast today actually and uh this guy's pretty pretty smart guy i can't remember his name but essentially they're like he he's and he he was like i can't he worked at some like investment bank or whatever but he's like a economics professor or something but he's essentially like we because like the lead time because it takes like 35 days for a ship to get from china to the united states like with all the goods or whatever but like he essentially was telling some story about he's

trying to buy a light he's like this asian dude but he lives in israel because like a professor there and he was like i was trying to buy like a light like a studio light like like that one probably that we have there and he's just like i couldn't get it anywhere like it's just like not available 90 plus percent of the lights are made in china and then he's like he used to live in new york so he called bnh and bnh is like yeah we have lots of them and he's like uh are you and what are you doing with the tariffs he's they're like we're like yeah we have lots of them and he's like uh are you guys and what are you doing with the tariffs he's they're like we're not ready we have tons of stock so we're not raising our prices until we run out and right using the new prices or whatever but like because of like the

lead time for that like they're presumably should this continue on like there will be like shortages of tons of random shit tons of shit is going to be like shortages of like empty shelves like all sorts of stuff like that in like two months probably like june yeah that to me that's a bigger problem than yeah than fucking some warren some fucking dirt pile i don't give a shit about yeah so yeah but uh anyways that'll be interesting also it was interesting that they got rid of the red dye which by the way it is just always crazy and we probably even talked about this but it's all two years of it though we still have two more years that is weird but it always just reminds it always is like it reminds me how crazy it is that you just have a situation where you go, all of the drinks that you're just like, oh, it's an orange juice.

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i'm no expert so you are actually an expert in this because it's a sperm related. Oh, here we go. You actually are an expert. Cranking, baby. But no, they, because this is the media, but a bunch of different places. And this is according to Ashley Sinclair and everyone about Elon Musk. Oh, yeah. They've confirmed that it is the test tube baby. Yeah, yeah.

But she says it's not for her. Oh, she said she smashed. She says she smashed not no romance just sperm 10 crazy things we learned about elon musk baby mom is in his legion of profit yeah yeah yeah he's dude he really just wants to repot like he's straight up just like as many clones so he was smashing ashley sinclair that's what she says and what a bag fumble oh my god this is like you could never like uh the the male mind cannot comprehend how crazy a woman can get she he offered her 15 million dollars at a hundred grand a month it's literally winning cash for life on uh

scratch off way more than cash for life cash for life is like you get two grand a month. It's literally winning cash for life on Scratch Off. Way more than cash for life. Cash for life is like you get two grand a month. Shannon Sharp's one's offered a cash for life as well. Yeah, I know. She wants double cash for life. She thinks she's going to get more cash, but you're saying that that was probably both the scenarios. They're like, I could probably get more cash for life. I don't think

no. You think Ashley Sinclair was like, we're supposed to be together. Yeah. She's like, I love you, Elon. Really? You think so? Yeah. Is that the vibe you got from her when you talked to her? No, no, no.

I mean, we never talked about that. No, I'm just saying vibe as a human. No, but like, first off, just the fact that her initial post that blew this whole thing up was the day before Valentine's Day. Literally the day before Valentine's Day this year. You think it was a jilted ex move? Absolutely. She goes, you said we would be together.

And he's like, bitch, I said that to everybody. So what's she going to get now? A lot less than that. I don't know. Apparently it's been cut down substantially. I mean, she's getting something. She's not getting nothing. She was looking at looking at 15 did we talk about that stunt she did where she sold her tesla did you see that i think i saw that yeah basically like she called

the new york post and then she's like selling her tesla on facebook marketplace or something and she's like oh i gotta sell my time to sell them i know she's like i gotta sell my tesla because fucking money's drying up or whatever which is probably not true but he has to pay i mean he's gonna have to pay just yeah but he almost can't be like default on child support but he doesn't have to give her fucking 100 grand a month and 50 million lump sum that's for sure how much does he have to give her i'm sure maybe just 10 grand a month not the 15 million you can be the richest man in the world and then only get adjudicated for 10. What about all those people

we know that like, I guess it's, don't, isn't there tons of like football players and basketball players that get these like crazy child support hits?

Well, there's a difference because I think if you're married and then you're like, I have a lifestyle. these aren't, come on, I said basketball players.

sorry, sorry. I mean, I think there's, it depends on the state. Like apparently in Texas, the minimum in Texas Is like really low Oh it depends on where you are

Oh absolutely Yeah yeah So you can just get hit With the minimums Even though you're rich as fuck Like yeah in Texas It could be like Two grand a month

That's where you gotta be man That's weird Hey there's a reason Elon Musk lives in Austin baby That's the only place To have the legion Yeah Plus he calls them his legion.

This is a hit piece, by the way. He has a fertility fixer. His name is Jared. So Jared's sort of the guy that he takes the sperm and he puts it in the bed. Does he get it out for him? I think he's in the room. He sits in the chair normally. He just holds the cup.

Do you think that Elon Musk... Just let me know when you're done, Elon. No, Elon must sits in the cock chair while jared puts the sperm in jared bring me my milking machine jared i have 15 minutes in between meetings yeah jared comes he's like where's the sperm he's like get it out get sucking jared hey jared so that's i guess that's part of your department, isn't it? I don't know.

What do I pay you for, Jared? Sperm's going to fucking jump out itself. Thought that you've... Because I'm looking at our contract here. It says that you will get the sperm out. I thought you were the fixer. So she had the $15 million clause. Their facts drop off after that.

Yeah, yeah. That was about it. Grimes and her, like, in the courtroom from hell. That one dropped off. Tiffany Fong or whatever, apparently, he, like, DM'd her. And it was like, if you just want some sperm, you can have some. Yeah, that's hilarious, man. Just DMing influencers being like, are you interested in some fucking Elon sperm?

I'm going to try that. See how that works. So just start DMing random chicks. Hey, I got some sperm if you want it. Some spare sperm cooking around? Yeah, what's your address? Cryptocurrency. Okay.

They really did a top ten article on that, about three. Yeah, that's all of them. From mega hats to paternity wars. Must romance arc began on a private jet. PJ, he's smashing in the PJ. Yeah. Okay, so they ran out after two but the Main point was that apparently

He does have that yeah he does attest to it but he's a busy Man It's a busyness thing it's a busyness thing Jared that's a dirty job man you don't Mike Rowe is dirty jobs Elon sperm collector Sperm collector yeah that's a tough one Yeah but so

He wants 50 kids probably last uh last week the we did the podcast when the astronaut stuff just happened yeah and it is is to me it is crazy the female astronauts they're not astronauts sorry travelers it was the first female astronaut to have her husband pay for it that go to space. That is the... Do you see how much it cost? I couldn't believe the price. Like 600 mil a ticket. 600 mil.

No, for the whole thing. For the whole thing. I'm like, it costs him every time he wants to go on an 11 minute trip. Dude, it's start to finish 11 minutes. I thought it was 11 minutes in space. It's only four minutes. It's the whole thing is 11 minutes. 600 million dollars.

That's crazy. You're like, how is this going to be like profitable as a business that has been the most ill-received trip in history i've never seen a rich publicity stunt not hit like that and that's the thing too is you almost because that that's like the ideal scenario if you want to like sell it to normies you're like katie perry went you're like your dumb ass wife can go yeah and everyone hated her for it i know but you're like at least you're like if you you know your wife's like i don't know i don't think i could go to space that seems scary you're like katie perry went yeah yeah bill king went like you can go anyone can do this but then again you're just like how much does it cost for a person to go if it's well this is the thing for one in the economy's bad people are don't want to hear

about rich things like this but more importantly to me it was the girl power moves weren't working like this shit would have worked before and i think that we're at the point of celebrities where it's you know when you uh when you're dating someone and the things they do are cute and then if you're really annoyed with them and you would together for a long time, everything they do is annoying. Of course. That was like,

that's where the world is at with these celebrities. I think like, think of a, this is like a joke was saying they're like when Katy Perry was just saying like the divine, you know, I'm just getting in touch with my divine, like first date a girl.

You'd be like, Oh, if you're trying to smash territory, you're like, Oh yeah. Yeah. Fuck you. You're so whimsical.. Oh, if you're trying to smash, you're like, oh, yeah. Yeah, fuck, you're so whimsical. Yeah, you ever done ayahuasca? Eight years in, you come home from work,

she's like, I just got in touch with my divine. You'd be like, well, you're supposed to be in touch with the cable company. You had one fucking job. You had one job to do today. Is the washing machine still broken? How do you fucking get in touch with washing those clothes like you're supposed to today?

I said the singing stuff where Katy Perry was singing. If you singing if you that's you know first hanging out with a girl you're trying to get pussy she's out there wonderful work 10 years in you're fucking lost you're doing acapella together oh imagine this you're trying to drive somewhere you fucking took a wrong turn shortcut you got the map out you fucking and then she's in the fucking passenger what are you four years old shut up i'm lost i can't think right now that's singing that's where we're at with celebrities you know even the me too stuff is a little bit like back in the day again first start dating a girl she's like this, this guy was fucking, he's a creep. He looks at my tits.

He'd be like, do I have to fight him? Do I kill him? 10 years annoyed. The guy's been looking at my tits. Put a fucking bra on then. You fucking. What do you expect from him, huh? Yeah, your nipples are out.

What do you want me to tell you? Yeah, what do you want? I think that's the stage we're at. Yeah. And I mean, are those chicks like. Oh, you spent $40 on uber eats today by one single coffee i see skies what the stop singing yeah i do like the stop singing the backlash is funny but they're just like they just got offered this thing and they're like i guess well yeah we'll go do this

thing and then it was just a media story and then everybody's like we hate i'm gonna disagree with you and push back on that because they didn't just do this thing they tried to do that they came back and they said i have a couple articles but they came back and they said this is a win for women oh they tried to do they tried to use the the identity stuff right and people are done with it a little bit but i think there's people who are especially done with rich people's stuff and also people are just kind of angry forever and i think that's what puts people in the there when someone gets famous more people are looking for like let's take him down right that's the the vibe of the world is like fuck this guy fuck this no one's watching like a rich person do something and being like sick they're watching it and being

like fuck you sure fucking space going asshole yeah oh yeah it wasn't you're not even an astronaut yeah so they came back and they said they kind of said this and people aren't buying it that worked for a little bit too where people go you know i've done this for like i've you know i went to space and i did that for women and people are like yeah that wasn't for us that was for you no that's for us I started There's a joke I said it's It's Homer Buying Marge the bowling ball Right I went to space for women

Yeah How's this for me Yeah how's this for me I mean there was some Alamans were probably Like see it didn't explode Like probably Like Jeff Bezos

Like sneakily is like Yeah I just want to show Like we sent all this precious All these Expensive people to space They didn't die Right he's happy He's like, this

could have been a lot worse. I could have been Katy Perry's gut splatter. Yeah, exactly. This could have been like the Challenger or whatever where you just watch all these women just explode. I mean, the hilariousest option would be like, they don't die, but they had like a good six months where they're stuck. No, the best would be if they all came back just aged.

Like they all aged really badly. Like all their botox just like rearranged in their face they all look like substance like all just fucked up and they're like it did a number oh that would be like literally that would be like fucking the worst case scenario for bezos to be like it just aged them all it does too have you ever seen the astronauts you ever see them like with the the two that got stuck in the space station they're like they age like you age like rapidly in space i don't know what the explanation is but wow yeah you age really fast i mean that'd be so funny if katie

perry just came back he's 90 now jeff bezos his wife's got the botox everywhere all reorganized on her face that's the thing bezos iszos is doing the standard Hollywood moves where he's like a famous guy. He's clouting her up. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, he's trying to get her. You know what the problem is Bezos is screwing up on, though? I mean, I've never heard her speak, so that's a problem.

Well. For her. Like, if she's trying to, like. She's in the being clouted up process. She doesn't have to speak. Like, Kanye West is clouting up his one. I mean, she was already pretty popular, but it's like she's not speaking now. That's true. Shit goes south, you're going to hear a lot of her.

You're going to hear a fuckload of her, man. Yeah, I guess he's paying her not to speak. Dude, Bezos is... This is what happens when you have guys that weren't like pussy guys that become pussy guys at 60. He doesn't realize that he's literally building her platform against...

for her to use against him for money yeah that's true and he's over fucking one too like right now he's building her up so she has a big media apparatus when she wants to take him down that was the lesson wife though that was he goes that was his turn you know i didn't you know he's learning a new lesson because i think he's going back to back with lessons, man. He's trying to cram him in. He likes to learn. Biggest bookseller in the world, I guess. Bookworm. Can't stop learning.

Maybe this is a bookworm. Yeah. I think the real lesson is, because also they said they can accomplish anything. The real lesson is, yeah, you can accomplish anything if you're a hot chick willing to date a old bald guy one of the richest men in the world who's just willing to float you and your uh few pals a 600 billion dollar trip to space yeah yeah that's awful nice gail king has one wish amid blue flight blacklash

uh i don't like that people are calling it a ride you never see a male astronaut going to space you're not an astronaut and they said oh they took a ride yeah you also wouldn't see a richard branson's not an astronaut either he does that shit too like richard branson goes on his virgin galactic and it's like i don't know well yeah so she doesn't like the ride but she's saying the reason they're doing that is because it's women but i also you wouldn't see a male astronaut come back to space and being like i did this for men yeah i did this for men you know what it is i said it's the equivalent of like i mean they only do that when they go on the moon if they ever did to do that mankind but that means women are included so they're including everyone you're

allowed to do it for everyone right but it's like them saying like uh this is like a slight on women because they don't like us and i I don't think women are buying it. I think the chicks are just like, no, people don't like you. Yeah. Like they don't like that you're rich. They're trying to do, first of all,

the whole reason for all of this stuff was like, you know, actresses being like, no, I'm not a rich person. I'm a woman. That's the hardest thing. Like you're like,

I'm subverting economic issues with, you you know identity issues right and i think that the economic issues are more and our people are whether it's true or short term or whatever they feel that yeah yeah so i think that that's why they're like no no no no no that's a rich person and i'm a poor person sure and the price tag was obscene like you couldn't lie about it you have to say it was obscene like you couldn't lie about it you have to say it was 600 million dollars you couldn't be like yeah this is like because like i believe the point of this blue origin thing is like it's going to be 250 000 a person to go so just like

say it was 250 000 a person it's just lie about the price well just be like yeah it was you know this whole thing costs a million and a half dollars people like that's not that crazy that's crazy you're good point they could have why say it was 600 million cost lie and eat the cost but This whole thing costs a million and a half dollars. That's not that crazy. That's crazy. Good point. They could have just lied. Why say it was $600 million? Eat the cost. Lie and eat the cost. But you're saying it's going to cost $250,000 to go. Maybe they can't do that for legal reasons.

That would be fraud. Or it's like some crazy fucking tax thing where you go, yeah, we just took a fucking $650 million. Oh, what a bath! $650 million write-off. I mean, sending a regular person to space, $250,000. Katy Perry, though. You know what the insurance is like on that?

I don't know. Something's fishy about that. It's the guy that all the guys are knocking pussy and all these dudes are just like, we can't get any pussy. And then the one guy that's coming in like, smell my fingers, boys! And everyone's like, this is for us.

Men just got some pussy. Yes, all right. It'll have to do. Men just got some more pussy, boys. And you're just like, no. No. And the guy's rich too.

You go, no, a rich guy that you just spent, you took her to fucking Spain for the weekend. Yeah. You just took her on a trip to Ibiza. Souped up yacht at this point. And you go, yeah,

you're just on the fucking intergal up yacht at this point you go yeah you're just on the fucking intergalactic yacht exactly men but yeah so there's a little girl who's like mommy can i go to space too and you're like yeah if you date a billionaire date a billionaire yeah i mean you're definitely not smart enough to be a fucking real astronaut so that's not happening that's exactly what it is can i mommy can i be an astronaut? Yeah, you just have to suck off a billionaires. All you have to do is find a rich old billionaire on his second divorce with a space program.

Suck him off and get a lot of Botox. Fake titties. You don't have them now, but you're going to have titties and you're going to want to fucking soup those up. Because your old Miami billionaire husband's going to want gonna want that yeah yes he will and then maybe you too can go to space for four minutes yeah that's how you be an astronaut

so there's that that's a new dream so i think that's where she goes they wouldn't say it's a ride if it's a man your point was they do like richard branson doesn't come back and say i'm an astronaut and the other part was men wouldn't come back and be in like men did this for men yeah like obviously men they'd be like i'm cool i mean men built the ship for men like the actual means of getting to space was built by men for men and here now was too yeah yeah but i'm saying we're like we all know they're like yeah the real accomplishment was not going there it was building the rocket you know i know in their opinion funding and building the rocket was the actual accomplishment i don't go on a roller i don't go on a roller coaster and be like i run a theme park yeah also and again i don't take any credit for that as a

man being like look what we fucking did huh look at us look at us fucking build building amazon and then building a rock and good for us. Look at us boys building Amazon. Boys fucking building rockets and shit. Oh, shit. So that to me is why this wasn't sticking. No. But she's trying to go the other way for that. And then the other one is

celebrities savagely call out female blue origin launch saying there's more important things in the world right now. Emily Radjikowski's not happy because she said this is bad for the environment. Is it bad for the environment? Everyone's going to find, well, I don't know. They used a lot of gas maybe. I mean, literally every single thing in the world is bad for the environment. Did you see that other fucking article that I sent you?

It said, I said this is where they've crossed the line. They said that it's bad for, like dogs are bad for the environment yeah i go you are you trying to lose like yeah the only people that might hate every everybody hate you like i think you could you'll turn a woman into a fracker yeah you're like oh by the way having a pet like is actually bad you're actually bad for the environment you go all right well at the end of me being yeah you lost me yeah you lost me totally we had a good run being a fucking fake environmentalist. Dogs are bad for the environment. Yes, everything technically...

Is bad for the environment. If you think that, you know, carbon is any carbon from anything. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you can be like, fires are bad for the environment. Like having a fire. And you go, okay, well, I don't want to eat raw meat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess I'm going to have to have fire so that was that and then uh blue blue origin backlash pinpoints

cringe misconceptions huffington post so no one zero people were happy with it but i think the main crux of all of it was probably a mix actually not a main crush because a mix it's a mix of people being done people hating billionaires yeah and also people not being tricked on the trump linkage that's what people don't like too that was like a big part of that didn't even think is that bezos when trump got inaugurated bezos showed up and gave him a check for a million dollars or something so then they're like oh he's a fucking trump guy now trump guy sending his fucking bimbo trump wife to space don't like that fucking trump don't like that don't like that he did send his bimbo trump wife to space hey man sometimes you gotta get some fucking peace

and quiet for you know what though bezos is probably like a very good like founder entrepreneur probably yeah obviously yeah probably i think the jury's out but i don't think he's great at publicity stunts the way that no because. Because one of the things, too, is even when they're... Like, Elon Musk, for example, is doing all this shit. It was like, yeah, and he's the most hated guy fucking alive right now. You know what I mean? So it's like, I think Bezos still...

He's probably read biographies of guys back in the day that were, like, beloved. And you're like, that is not now. No. And also, this would have been way easier. If you want to be beloved, send fucking seven dogs to space. Just put seven fucking cute dogs in those things. Send them out. That's not a bad idea.

Like, do something like that. Nobody's going to, except for, I guess, whoever wrote that. Do it in, like, Facebook parent memes territory. Don't try to touch on. Doggo goes to space-o or something. Yeah, and then, that's already better. Way better. And then if it explodes, you're like, it's very sad.

If you're trying to not be hated, you have to stay out of the making points territory. Yeah, you just send seven dogs to space. Maybe a cat in there. And you have to be sort of humble about it. Where you have to kind of be a little bit.

If you want, like you can't speak so much. So he sent six clucking hens up there. So they're bound to say so much stuff. Well, they want their shine when they come down. They want their shine, but the shine's going to draw a lot of negative attention. Whereas the dog just wants a treat. So he just comes down and he goes, I don't know why he sent me there but i was weird i would like a chicken snack sure they found a way to not like the dog thing but he would have been better

off yeah better publicity dude think of promotional materials you get out of that that's what i'm saying that had been memed yeah that would have been mean but again they need people they need celebrities to go because then people will be like i guess i could go like it'll just you know you get that who wants to go now because they feel like now i feel like if i'm sure some way there are people i feel like right now to some degree someone's like i don't want to be on the next one and be the laughing no no you don't want to be on the next one but i mean the point of this is to eventually just be like this is just you know a rich person adventure thing to do is you just go and it's like skydiving, but for rich

people. Billionaire's wives. Yeah. I mean, I guess the goal is this is eventually be like 50 grand and you literally get in line and it's just like a fucking roller coaster where you're just in line and the thing goes up, comes back down, refuels, next group goes on, goes back up. The only cool thing is when you're in there that you float around but they can make you float around without going into space yeah that's what i'm saying they

can do the thing where like you can just do a grab no gravity chamber well no gravity chamber don't they yeah like at nasa they have chambers there where you can go in them and they take the gravity out i don't know about that is that not true i don't think so they train in pools because that's like the closest thing am i making that? I think you just made that up. A no gravity chamber? I mean, if there's a no gravity chamber, I don't want dibs on that thing. No, they could do the thing

where they go in a... That's what they did for the astronaut, the Apollo 11 movie or whatever. How they got the... What was it? 13? 13, not 11. Where they go in a plane

and the plane drops rapidly and then you float for like 10 seconds. Okay, so you do have to go up to space to get your no gravity effect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think there's... That would be the only cool part. Yeah, yeah. Is if you're up there and you get to float around.

Absolutely. It would be wicked. I mean, that's the only reason you go. And then you can see that the Earth is flat. And you get to see the Earth is flat. Obviously, that's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. You can finally pay the big bucks to finally find out.

Yeah. So I think Bezos doesn't... He's not as good as his stunts. And this is, he hasn't done that many. This is like his first foray into stunts. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. He probably thought, again, she probably talked him into this.

That's the question. This was very much a yes, dear. And she goes, and Katy Perry will come. He goes, yes, dear. Do you think he's bitched around behind closed doors? Oh, yeah. He seems like it, but you never know with guys like that. I mean, I would guess the guy who gave away half of Amazon to get out of his last marriage

probably bitched around a little bit. He might be run with an iron fist, though it's hard to say with those guys, you know? Because don't forget, like, even on interviews, like, Bezos is a fucking cold-hearted, cold stone killer. Yeah, but he's married to, like like a fucking, like, you know, like Miami Latina chick. Bimbo. Bimbo, like all the stuff.

Like he probably, in his mind, he goes, I do not get bitched around. And she just like kind of rolls her eyes. She's just like, he does whatever I tell him. Like he's like, oh yeah, he thinks like... He doesn't know how to handle a girl like that. Yeah, hell no. Her last fucking boyfriend was like Tony Gonzalez gonzalez the football player it's like it's yeah it's very possible with bezos that's his

he in his mind he's in his mind he's king of the cast and she's like i've never not gotten something i wanted 100 and she's smart enough to know how to manipulate men where it's like yeah i don't ask it like that yeah fucking of course i fucking make this retard think it's his idea exactly that's a great idea katie perry huh everybody loves katie perry right you go i think so i don't know and she'll sing on the thing yeah she'll sing on the i wonder that's a good question if it was it was her idea or not it was her idea i'm gonna go ahead and say it was her idea she goes wouldn't that be something yeah and she was on the yacht and he was like pretty sick yacht and she was like i don't know i'm not space it's not space like if he said i'm going and you're not going she'd be on the yacht well here well he already went she goes it's such a shame that

only one of us has been to space yeah and i'm on this i guess the yacht i'm on a boat but i guess i'm on this fucking i don't know this shitty 750 million dollar boat yeah or you got to be on a rocket ship but i guess whatever you're the rich one. I'm just your girlfriend. I'm just your fucking poor surf girlfriend. Your money's your money. I just get my allowance and I'll just eat my girl. If only somebody I'm going to marry

owned a rocket. But I guess I can't use it for some reason and my friends are all asking me why I'm not able to use it. I don't even know what to say to them. Yeah, Katie keeps asking me when do we get to go to space? I i guess i can't use it for some reason and my friends are all asking me why i'm not able to use it i don't even know what to say to them yeah katie keeps asking me when do we get to go to space and i say i don't know i don't know i have to tell her i guess jeff bezos stopped loving me i don't know where he keeps the keys so i don't know yeah so whole thing's stupid i had a fucking banger uh i sent this to you, but back to back, two articles about toxic men. And one is Gen Z women are choosing older men over guys their own age.

And not because they're sugar daddies. That's what they want. Yeah, it's not for any sort of financial. But the reason is, is they're choosing older men because they said younger men are toxic and they like Andrew Tate and stuff like that. Yeah. And here's another article that was was from uh huffpost this is from the sun uh or no this is from the other ones from huffpost that was from new york post and the huffpost says tracy elliott ross shares the one reason she dates younger men and she says she dates younger men because older men are too toxic so we have an article saying that she i date

younger men because older men are too toxic and we have an article saying that she i date younger men because older men are too toxic and we have an article saying that i date older men because younger men are too toxic i guess how you guys are coming out in the same week yeah according to reporting dating trends and tiktok and mainly tiktok the new news source tiktok i've got to be honest, it's mainly TikTok. Some OnlyFans hoed explaining why she dates older men. Gen Z's warming up to the idea that age is just a number. They're warming up to the idea. As they reach 25, they're warming up to the idea that you could date older men.

Yeah, there you go. This guy's so toxic, he doesn't fucking take me to space. Yeah, I mean, when I go out for dinner with 25-year-olds, the olive garden yeah toxic yeah toxic super toxic behavior and they want to split the bill when i go with a 30 real toxic i go to a 35 year old we go to a nice french restaurant and he pays it's fucking toxic yeah these toxic younger men try to make me drink in an alley just wants to hang out in a park all the time like fucking toxic oh shit according to the 19 year old who's dating someone in his late 20s uh it's odd to date someone uh my age because a lot of times they start arguing about that andrew tate makes good points i mean i would love i mean the point by the way the points he makes is that women like

older literally his point is like date a 19 year old who's never had sex before so she's not fucking used up i mean again the 29 year old the difference is he's dating a 19 year old and he just goes yeah i'm gonna probably just not talk about the fact that i like andrew tate yeah yeah yeah yeah just keep that to myself i don't know know what the point of bringing that up whereas Whereas a younger guy thinks it's fucking badass being like, yeah, I entertain. And you're like, no, just keep that to yourself. Well, yeah, the older guy's like, yeah. She's like, do you want to talk?

And he's like, out. Out. But you're wrong, though, because Tracey Elliott shares the one reason she dates younger men. Oh, OK. It's not just because they're uh younger and better looking a lot of men my age steeped in toxic masculinity because they were raised in a culture uh that there is a particular way a relationship looks and younger men have a more open so she's done the complete opposite she says she actually it's the older man the older men have these traditional

values i think it's just men are the problem starting to feel that way yeah also the what's the first is the first article huff poe with the dating the 19 the first ones that but well they're articles but they're all articles based on someone saying this somewhere i was just gonna say it was post enough poe has definitely had 50 articles being like it's not okay for a 29 year old to date a 19 year old another one like probably so many it's a hypocrite factor oh it's insane we're just like talking about both sides of the mouth because you're like you guys for sure dude most of you do not think it's cool for a 19 year old to date a 29 year old you ever see those graphs where it's like are you this can you do this and it's just like the box is leading down it's just like are you toxic do you do this and then just all the boxes yes there is no option for no yeah but i'm certain we've covered like

yeah that's too big of an age gap like a 19 year old should never be dating a 29 year old yeah exactly like they were hard on that for a while yeah that was like their whole thing is they're like they didn't like the competition um this was the big article that was probably the funniest one this week i had a gay holiday fling with a taliban terrorist vice would be jealous of this one, man. I don't know if they're still churning out articles, but I think if you were a Vice... Yeah, didn't we

have one a couple weeks ago? No, sometimes I look and it's like they recycle old ones. They keep getting sold and then they have that run where they crank them out for six months and they disappear again. I don't know. Shane Smith has a podcast now. Oh, really? Yeah, I think it's pretty big, actually. I had a gay holiday fling with a taliban terrorist and then i tried to leave the country and the machine guns were pointing towards my head and he says taliban penis

should not be underrated taliban's got that fucking like good shit like that vice is creaming their pants over this one terrorist activist a security, a security guard, a toy is at a... So the terrorist is also a security guard. Yeah, yeah. Well, basically, it's like some dude who... Everyone's in the Taliban there. Yeah, everyone's in the Taliban. This guy's like some extreme traveler

where he goes to like all these crazy places or whatever and then he went to Afghanistan. Extreme. I mean, it is pretty extreme to go vacation. I mean, it is pretty extreme to go to Afghanistan and have sex with a dude. Well, I mean, to be openly extreme to go to Afghanistan and have sex with a dude that works there. I mean, to be openly gay and travel to Afghanistan.

I know. You are rolling the dice there, for sure. And then he basically says he started making eyes at the security guard, and then the security guard went back to his room, and they started watching Gossip Girl. The guy didn't speak any English. Yeah, the guy didn't speak English. So, I don't know. I guess who knows

if it even happened, but this guy, it's funny because he's saying terrorist, but what he really means is a guy who worked at the hotel who's part of the Taliban party. Yeah, exactly. He's just like a fucking paper pusher. He's a paper pusher.

I mean, he's a fudge pusher. It is so funny. This is what the Taliban's up to, man. That guy used to be overthrowing governments now he's working at a hotel sucking off a tourist it's the age-old question once you overthrow the government what do you do what do you do you go we won i go you're in the government you're like what well you do tps reports like when people went to the capital what did they do it's like i don't know dick around yeah dick around i don't know you dick around? Yeah, dick around. I don't know. This whole government business is pretty serious, so that's a lot of work.

It's so much more fun overthrowing than doing it. Yeah, yeah. Overthrowing, that's like the fucking, that's the exciting part, and then you just do it, and you go, all right, I guess we go to work now? You're like, I got into this for fucking fun, and now I just have a nine-to-five? Pre-game's always more fun

than the night. Absolutely. Absolutely. You're just like, I guess I just have a nine-to-five job now more fun than the night absolutely absolutely just like i guess i just have a nine to five job now i mean they put me in hr they didn't even put him in hr they put him guarding hotel you know he was like guys yeah i thought i'd get a better job than that yeah he goes well then how about this i'm gonna suck off a dude are you like that so he's sticking it to the boss we all thought we'd have better jobs but the economy's not great he claimed the short-lived romance was passionate he admits that it was never going to be more than a fling so he didn't think that him and the yeah he didn't think he was gonna move gay marry the taliban gay marry the taliban headquarters yeah it's probably frowned upon they haven't spoken since he said they haven't spoken ever he said they don't speak he doesn't speak the same language as them

extreme extreme this is not very good extreme tourism though if your body was like dude i'm doing this extreme tourism it's like what do you do it's like skydiving he's like i blew the security guard yeah he go like extreme you better hope this fucking article doesn't make it back to the taliban because they're gonna have to find out who the culprit was well yeah you're right so many dudes are getting killed over this oh i i didn't even think of because they're going to have to find out who the culprit was. Well, yeah, you're right. So many dudes are getting killed over this. Oh, I didn't even think of that. Oh, they're like, who fucking... Those security guards that work at that hotel are in for a bad week.

Yeah, there's two of them. They go, all right, well, it was one of you two guys that got in. I don't know. We're just killing you both. I don't know. Dude, if this guy lied and the security guard at the Taliban hotel is just like, no, I didn't.

I'm not fucking... Yeah, there's only one. There's one security guard. He guard like an 80 year old taliban look abdul it's like i hate to be the bearer of bad news here but this article came out that said sucked off the security guard at the hotel sucked off a tourist does this care to explain abdul's in bad shape if that happens man yeah you really screwed him over yeah he's like yeah we have you know since me and abdul are tonight We haven't spoken again It's like mainly Because he's getting

Thrown off a roof right now You fucking snitch You outed He's buried in a hole Currently You outed a member Of the Taliban Yeah

Yeah if you worked At that hotel Did he say the name Of the hotel Tiosi's Hotel He said He fucking outed the guy I didn't even think of that

Dude this guy's screwed. He's going to be Taliban from government, that's for sure. Maybe he doesn't get back. Maybe they don't have a translation. Abdul's sweating right now. Abdul's like, bro, this is supposed to be fucking on the DL.

I didn't want you to write an article about it. This is the opposite of the DL. And then one more in the topic was i caught my husband masturbating a male friend and he says it's nothing so yeah it's a lot a lot of gay stories just a couple guys just having fun my husband's and this is what the wife was up sometimes you got to share techniques yes obviously it's like fucking you ever been you ever been to a driving range with one of the buds you know you're just like hey man if you You ever been to a driving range With one of the buds You know You're just like hey man

If you just adjust your grip A little bit You know You're like You got a little bit Of an open Switch If you switch hands

The right way Yeah yeah Like your grip's a little strong So you just wanna Hey if you sit on your hand It feels like someone else Is swinging Feels like someone else

Is golfing Yeah dude It feels like fucking Tiger is swinging it Feels like you, it feels like fucking tigers swinging it. Feels like you're just there while tigers are swinging it. Found out a week ago, my friend came over. He insists that a lot of men do this. He says, now that, you know when women say gaslighting?

Yeah. That's an example of actual gaslighting. Well, that's just covering your ass right there. Well, that's what real gaslighting is. That's just classic CYA right there. He says it happened a few times. She was upstairs, and his friend is not attached. I think his friend might be gay, but his husband says not him.

So I'm not gay, my boyfriend is. Yeah. Classic, I'm not gay, but my boyfriend is. Simply put, it was truly a harmless action but the reason i even thought this article was funny was the um the response because the response is at these places which is uh this is irish times the irish times is a little fruity right now okay but uh the the irish times couldn't conclusively say that it was gay either. So sort of on at first glance you'd be like, oh, they're not selling this guy out.

They'll let him keep his lie. But in second, what's actually happening is the Irish Times knows it's gay, but they have to be like, you know, there's all sorts of different things. But they were both just jacking each other off. I do want to note that some straight men do enjoy homoerotic or shared sexual activities with other men.

Seeing as it's connected to their sexual orientation, sexuality is fluid and multifaceted. And your husband's actions don't necessarily define his sexual identity. So it feels like the husband paid this fucking blogger. Yeah, that's the big win. And if he didn't, he's just like... That is true, though. If you were living in the closet, like 1940s style, and you're just like, I don't want to fucking live as a gay man. First of

all, probably wait till your wife leaves the house to be fucking jacking off your buddy. Yeah. You're like, what the hell? But second of all, it is funny, though, to bring her to one of these people that the guy is like, you find a college guy therapist and just be like, well, you know, sexuality's fluid, and you're like, you're just sitting there like, told ya. See? Told ya. What'd I tell tell you nothing gay about me jacking off my buddy the opposite of

yeah she goes well how do you know if someone's gay well they tell you if they're straight or gay so you go whatever he says that's what it is and you guys are in a heterosexual marriage yeah seems straight to me case closed it's fucking closed yeah seems pretty straight to me would he marry you if he was gay also do that for cheating it's like if he says he did if he says it didn't count it didn't count yeah it didn't count because he's not in love he says he's monogamous he says he loves you only if he says he's monogamous then i mean you decide whether your sexual orientation is yeah yeah i identify as monogamous hey uh shit in adulthood our culture actually allows for a

lot of sexual change in heterosexual male spaces between straight men whether it's just talking or joking about sex we've got tending strip clubs having threesomes with other men it's entirely possible your husband is straight and being truthful and he's just considered it a release yeah you know either sometimes go to the same thing jack off your buddy those are about the same sometimes you go to the strip club sometimes you make jokes about sex yeah joke around have a laugh same category same category jacking off have you ever heard of make jokes about sex yeah did you consider him gay for doing that so then is that gay to you too So then sounds like you just think everything's gay Sounds like you're just wanting your husband to be gay. It sounds a lot more like a you problem

Yeah, you want your husband to be gay. Yeah, is that what you know? Everything he does is just gay all of a sudden Yeah, so he made a couple jokes. Oh, hey Jack have one friend a couple times Frank keeps coming over all the time Whatever. I would recommend getting a counselor who's queer sex positive oh yeah definitely that's that's the solution here he needs a gay counselor to tell him he's not gay it's so funny i recommend you get a gay counselor so he can explain to your fucking ignorant ass that he's not gay what kind of counselor is this how bad is this counselor not gay he does the adjudication

he keeps his arm up and he goes he does the judge judo not gay not not not not not not gay so he recommends going to a queer counselor so he can clear this whole thing yeah there you go there's nothing gay about it just everybody's telling you or just someone who isn't closed minded or going to pathologize your husband's accent you're getting caught fucking dude and you're telling accusing your wife of pathologizing you i mean it would be amazing though if you like if she's so kind of open where or she's so like confused like you you literally confuse her so much where you're like why don't we just go see a queer counselor and let him decide? Yeah. She's like, I'm not sure if this is gay. You're not sure?

Like, what more do you need? Like, you just need to be told, like, yeah, straight guys can just do gay stuff. Duh. Duh. Not gay. Queer counselor, probably. That would be a good grift for the queer counselor, though, where he was just like, and he's like, that was 500 bucks.

And then the guy's like, that seems high. And he goes, or I could do it for less. Tell her you're gay. Maybe we could have a different answer. Or I could do it. Yeah, I actually have a $200 version. That's the premium plan where I lie. It's the premium plan where I explain how not gay what you did was.

Tell her that her eyes have not deceived her. What she believes to be true is in fact correct. But if you can't afford it, let's just start the session. Yeah, let's go. I mean, divorces aren't cheap either. Yeah, whatever. Let's just start her up. Anyways, see us on the Patreon. See you in Atlanta this weekend.

And I'll be in Edmonton next weekend. Edmonton next weekend. Edmonton AB. You're next weekend in Edmonton? Yeah I'm gonna be in Calgary next weekend Oh no way Yeah and I'm actually going a day early Oh

Cause Nima is gonna be there Oh okay cool So I'm gonna go hang out with Nima And Alex Byron What days are you doing Edmonton? Thursday to Sunday And it sucks Cause the Oilers are in the playoffs right now

And I'm Assuming they make it to game seven Better fuck your shows up Big time But they're down to nothing right now. They're getting fucked. So we're both going to Berta next weekend. Berta boys!

They're getting smoked, the Oilers, right now. Oh, so the Berta boys fucking, we should do a Berta promo. Yeah, let's do a Berta promo. Okay, I'll see you guys later on the Patreon. Peace. Peace.