The Boyscast with Ryan Long - The Debate Aftermath, Article Calls Believing in Aliens Dangerous, Jaoquin Phoenix Walks Off Movie For Being too Gay

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In response to allegations that some podcasters have been receiving money from Russia, the BoyzCast will be officially cancelling the Moscow date of the Ukraine Belongs to Russia live podcast tour. This was a tough decision for us as this one date was funding the rest of the tour, but refunds for the Moscow date of the Ukraine Belongs to Russia tour will be issued by emailing kremlinlivedates at yandex.ru. Some people have also commented on our newly acquired matching watches. These were an unrelated gift from Roman Abramovich, who happens to be a fan of the show,
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Starting point is 00:02:52 Laughing Matters. Laughing Matters. That's a good way to put it. Because we knew there was going to be a more, like less Laughing Matter. We had Glenn Greenwald on if you want to check that out. Extra episode. No strings attached. It's truly a Laughing Matter yes and then fridays is
Starting point is 00:03:06 going to be a laughing matter they never say anything's a laughing matter they just say it's not a laughing fridays on this podcast is a laughing matter laughing that's the thing okay so we watch the debate that's one of the things we're going to talk about however the funniest thing by the way so obviously i had a pretty good point for you by the way yeah okay so when we're talking about what happened in the debate you always think the media is going to be the media right yeah media gonna media right in media so you kind of look at what they do and if you think about the media you think about uh essentially you go if you like think about it like a movie and they're rotten tomatoes you go what the media
Starting point is 00:03:46 says is the critic score yeah and what vegas odd said is the audience score yeah yeah yeah that's very that's a good way to look at it you go sometimes they both really agree sometimes but if you go okay media says this and then the audience like sandler movies for example media you know the critic score is going to be 2%. Kill them. Audience score is going to be like, woo! Yeah, yeah, for sure. So that's sort of how I look at it. I mean, there was no scenario
Starting point is 00:04:11 with the debate where CNN and MSNBC were going to come out and whatever happened and just be like, yeah, she mopped the floor with it. I was wondering if they had some of these articles
Starting point is 00:04:19 because I'll read you some of these articles, which was the beginning. This was the beginning of Donald Trump's unraveling. Harris was good. Really good. Sure. But Harris, but Trump was hideously bad. these articles which was the beginning this was the beginning of john o' trump's unraveling harris was good really good sure but harris but trump was hideously bad maybe those two points are connected harris won the debate if it wasn't even close so i'll tell you i will say the the bar was
Starting point is 00:04:36 set pretty low for her like everybody expected her to come out and be like but but but she wasn't that bad yeah yeah she was fine she's talking well She was fine just talking. Well, to me it was like. Real pasty at this point. He was, it felt like, yeah, she wasn't. At the beginning she was just like. Yeah, you could see that, yeah. I would say if it was my original instincts. I'll say this. We're going to go through a couple parts and then I'm going to say the funniest parts.
Starting point is 00:04:57 We'll do it in that order. Sure. But kind of the first initial thing was it felt a lot to me like she was sort of talking to the old ladies. No, so she was talking to ladies and Trump was sort of talking to the old ladies no so she was talking to ladies and trump was talking to old people that's what it really felt like they're panning to for sure like trump was talking to like a 60 year old dad that was very that's what his geared towards and she was really sort of talking at the heartstrings for like the 50 year old
Starting point is 00:05:17 ladies and i was i went to the stytown gym or the outdoor gym right yeah and there was two probably 65 year old ladies it's probably like two hours after the debate no sorry actually it was the next day the morning the next day they were loud they're both sitting on the outdoor exercise bikes and the lady goes you know the guy's a misogynist and she goes i swear to god i i my ears were burning right so i i peeked up i started standing i pretended on my phone and she goes she goes the guy's a misogynist he's racist it was a character right and then she goes but the funny part she goes this guy's a misogynist he's racist and the irony of it all now he has to debate a black woman i couldn't believe it was like they were loudly that's that's a new york
Starting point is 00:05:59 liberal 65 years on the bike just being like you know he's racist and then she starts going you know have you heard he's racist and the central park four i don't know if you remember that she goes five no no i know that she said yes i'm aware she said the central park four probably 20 times she goes the central park for these guys just because they're black she keeps saying he kept saying he wanted to lock them in jail for the rest of their life he's going this is the argument on the outdoor exercise bike in New York. I was loving listening to the man. I was like, this guy spoke to her.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Kamala Harris spoke to this woman for sure, though. Yeah, they did. Taylor Swift, big announcement right after. That was the big drop. She's supporting Trump. What a shocker. She put out her endorsement for Trump. I'll tell you what I thought.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I mean, her fan base probably is, like, realistically 50-50, too. So that is actually not a beneficial move to open her mouth about that. It's kind of interesting. Like, do you think that Taylor Swift, you'd think a little bit, maybe she's not going to get her football bump as much,
Starting point is 00:07:01 because when she goes to football, people are going to be like, fuck this chick a bit. I mean, some of her music is, like, borderline country music. Like, she goes to football people are going to be like fuck this chick a bit i mean you're like some of her music is like borderline country music like she goes and plays in these red states and they're probably just like fuck you she's been doing this forever though i think two years back again there's no real consequences to endorsing kamala harris and there's huge costs like britney mahomes liked a donald trump tweet and has and every patrick mahomes news conference right now is not about football it's about the like of a fucking post by his wife it's like some people can sort of get away with it
Starting point is 00:07:31 and some people it really hits them hard it feels like you know yeah yeah like if you're like Max Crosby and you're just this like neck tattooed white hillbilly dude you're like Dana White Dana White yeah exactly but uh yeah for for most people it's there's only one real public option it kind of the interesting part to me was uh that i was kind of this is the note that i made when i was watching it it was you know how i guess obviously everyone's pointing out that the the the moderators were sort of like one-sided obviously it was abc right yeah which is obviously to be expected but it was maybe like certain funny sometimes where they would ask him a question about january 6th and then they'd ask her a question like what do you think about this guy doing that she kind of like asked him a
Starting point is 00:08:14 question about why he's bad and then ask her a question about why he's bad yeah and then he sort of like they kept fact-checking i was sort of saying when they were fact-checking because the the fact-checkers kept being like do we just want to fact-check this didn't happen i wanted to like when she was like his rallies are bad i was like can we get a fact yeah imagine just i was thinking the guy at home watching that being like where's the fucking fact check i mean they fact they didn't literally they were like fact-checking him and like i don't do they have a single fact check on her i think it was mostly him fact checking yeah but to me that was like because sometimes he's he it makes him look better in my opinion because he's sort of uh comes across as too mean for a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:54 people right yeah but when it feels like he's being ganged up on it makes his like demeanor a little more warranted yeah for sure you know i mean he is he obviously that is what happened like he signed up for it and you know he didn't really he is he obviously that is what happened like he signed up for it and you know he didn't really have a choice like that's what she accepted it was the abc debate i don't i don't think she accepted a fox news debate obviously a fair situation would be like we'll do a fox one and an abc but i think it benefits her more to have it fair because a little bit like one of his i didn't you know i thought it was a lot of mumbo jumbo from him but i don't think any undecideds watch that
Starting point is 00:09:25 and they're like, all right. Well, Vegas odds said there wasn't a big change. It was like a tiny. Yeah, live it was, because I was live streaming it, and live it was, I think he started at 53. I think it started at like 53.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Yeah, I think it was like 45. And then it got even. It was 49, 49. Well, if you look at the dips, it was like Trump basically went crazy high during the Biden thing. Then he went high after the thing. He was sort you look at the dips, it was like Trump basically went crazy high during the Biden thing. Then he went high after the thing. He was sort of like a little ahead.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And then it's sort of like, it was like a tail that flipped. It's currently 50% Kamala Harris, 49% Trump. Right. So it was like a, it was like a 1% bump that sort of disappeared after a day. But to me,
Starting point is 00:10:00 it was just like, if he has a scenario where he seems like he's being treated fairly and then he's being a dick, it comes across as more of a dick. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. When it seems like everyone's against him and then he's being an asshole, I feel like it rubs people a little less the wrong way. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Yeah. I mean, we'll see. Because it's funny. Because she's like, now that the idea is from her is like yeah i don't it's i don't need to do uh another debate i think like everything that was accomplished like you saw me why didn't she say she wanted to do another one already well now they're say they're floating it out they're like oh you know what she doesn't even need to do it and then he's also like yeah like you know i smoked her so i don't need to do one either he's like yeah i like destroyed her so
Starting point is 00:10:41 and it's funny because it's sort of like the boxers when they put their arm up. Yeah, a debate is... You can't quantify who wins a debate, really. So it's just the public. So people are just like, yeah, she won. And his supporters are like, yeah, he won. I think that his supporters, some of them were a little not that happy with his performance.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah. I think it's fair to say he did better than you thought he would do. Or she did better than you probably thought she was gonna do because she could have done something crazy bad or whatever and he probably could have done better he said this you know the same thing a lot of times however uh one thing that kind of like struck me after this whole thing happened and i was just like remember so when he's talking about the eating dog that's the big thing they're talking about, right? I fell out of my chair. I literally almost.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I was kind of wondering if he was going to mention that. Dude, I literally tweeted it like half an hour before. I go, he's going to mention eating cats, isn't he? But then, okay, so you go, they took this town of like 100,000 people and they put like 220,000 immigrants. And it was kind of like a whole debacle for the town, right? 60,000 in Springfield and they added 20,000 Haitians. And then he starts talking about it and then, you know, the media
Starting point is 00:11:50 basically within a day is just like, you know, we need more Haitian immigrants. It kind of, you forget that like whatever issue he decides to take on, it now goes the opposite way because you forget how much they against him, you know what I mean? Sure, yeah, yeah. So there was a little bit of that where i'm like right when he takes on
Starting point is 00:12:08 an issue it almost makes it hard like how many issues derangement syndrome but that is the reality of the yeah you know what i mean he's like we need to get rid of breast cancer and they're like we need more breast cancer right and you kind of forget that like if he came to took your issue up where he's like danny paul shuck needs a raise yeah you know what i mean or like whatever so i was like yo shut up man yes you'd be like stop it within a day every one of your company is gonna be like this guy should be fired yeah yeah of course so there was i'm sure if you were i'm sure if you are in this town there is a bit of a thing where you're just like you know this is a problem that like everyone's sort of in the last four years because people are like yeah the cats
Starting point is 00:12:45 are going some people okay so what's the situation i've been deep in this people are like i know you have and this one guy went and he like went there yesterday and he interviewed all these people and people are like yeah the pets are some people are like yeah pets are going missing but nobody's actually seen it but there is on if you went on reddit there was this thing where there was like a haitian i think he was haitian but maybe that's unclear but probably and he just grabbed a canada goose and he's just like walking down the street with like a cat which is just like it that's just third world shit yeah like dude i remember when i was in i want to say like cambodia or something like i took a boat somewhere and there was a woman on a boat or it's like lousy and like the woman was literally
Starting point is 00:13:25 just like i was on a boat she was like totally dressed up like to the nines this is a 10 in the morning on this like shitty boat and she's just holding a live chicken by the feet she's just holding it like like like you would hold a bag on a like a the train she's holding a live chicken it's weird well she's just like it's her dinner yeah in her mind she was like that's no different from me holding a hamburger bag of hamburgers yeah exactly like it's just like you're holding your bag of burgers and she's holding a chicken it's alive just by the legs yeah how else am i gonna get this thing home like and that's and that's it and just like it you know again it's just third world shit. I guess people are shocked when they see it in Springfield, Ohio, naturally.
Starting point is 00:14:08 When they're like, yeah, we, but you know, me and Johnny were saying like, there was that whole thing within here where there was like Chinese people and they were getting birds and they were like putting breadcrumbs down and then a bird comes over and they just grab it and they put it in a bag. It's wild. Yeah. It's just like for them, they're like, that's food. It's easy to do here too. For most of the world world the birds and squirrels get a little aggressive in new york
Starting point is 00:14:28 yeah and for all much of the world they just are like that's food i mean i remember even toronto there's a whole thing because there was these underground bushmeat cafes opening up because in africa in africa like wouldn't be me in africa the big uh like delicacy is like everybody's like yeah when you you eat bushmeat which essentially like these really uh like strange animals that we've never heard of you know and then they were they get like killed and frozen that's a hippie girls you called bushmeat you push me and they get shipped and frozen and uh shipped to toronto like under uh the context of like it being something else, and somehow they, like, sneak them in, and then, like, Africans go
Starting point is 00:15:08 to these, like, underground restaurants, because they're just like, I just want some of my local... How bad do you need Bushmeat? Well, it's just like, they grew up on it, you know? They go, this is what we like. This is the kind of shit that I grew up eating as a kid, and you legally can't buy it, and they don't have those animals
Starting point is 00:15:23 in Toronto, so there's you know i guess there's enough demand for it and they're my yeah it's like a cow like a basically a like a a pig walking by and you're a butcher and you're like free pig yeah exactly yeah exactly oh shit there's a pig i guess the question is how much is it happening but regardless it was you know when he says stuff like that it was you know you could easily say like hey listen i felt like i know 10 people myself that would have been better at this debate where you're just like hey you know she she was talking about this stuff and you're like listen like i was the one who said that we should uh you know do the you know i've been saying this
Starting point is 00:15:59 forever that's a border you're now saying it so basically you're admitting i was right yeah as opposed to that they kind of say uh something hyperbolic then everyone goes against him and then the issue sort of gets and also the eating the pets thing obviously now it's become more like everybody's kind of knows about it but when he mentioned at the time this was like a terminally online kind of thing to know about like your average person was like what the fuck are you talking about of course yeah they're like what what do you mean they're eating the pets in springfield whereas like if you're on twitter all day you're like yeah they're eating the pets in springfield that might be hot that's the rumor
Starting point is 00:16:33 but he has this hip jd vance who's probably like a real online guy who's i think that's what it is you hear this like his kids and shit you're like you hear about this i think jd vance has tapped it he's got group chats where people are sending that he's tapped into the online space and then he's showing trump and then trump's taking it to the mainstream yeah but some boomer watching this democrat or conservative is like what are you talking about you're like i haven't seen this anywhere i would agree with that yeah but yeah i felt the... If you were a modern watching that, you're kind of just like,
Starting point is 00:17:06 okay, so do I want... You're like, obviously, you know, Kamal Harris is kind of lying about stuff. And then you go, the question is, do I want to live in a world that revolves around one man? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I feel like a lot of people are making that decision. You know what I mean? Where you're like, do I want the entire world to revolve around this one guy again again yeah like all all the news so it's really a test of that you're watching him and you're like can i deal with this being like every second of every day yeah yeah not can yeah do i want to just continue just not really thinking about the president that much who's in charge and what they're doing and or just non-stop every day everything trump funniest parts to me uh obviously the fact check of when he uh had to get talk about his rally i was like i literally watched that and i was just
Starting point is 00:17:58 like there's no way you're gonna allow that to happen when she was like it was weird too maybe i'm wrong people are saying it was a hot technique i don't know yeah everybody was like oh he took the bait and it's like they're like oh like what a savvy move by common i saw a lot of articles he took the bait i'm like well i don't know she's talking shit about him what's he supposed to say i kind of felt like that too i was just like well her idea was that he was supposed to talk about she said this thing about immigration and then she mentioned the rally thing so instead of responding to her he's on the rallies i'm like yeah he talked plenty about immigration it's not like it's not like you had if anything every time he finished his answer he had another 45 seconds left he was just like another 45 45 is because my wall god damn it you guys are building it
Starting point is 00:18:38 but yeah i don't i don't know what how he was supposed to respond to that like do you know they're saying that's why it was so good he had no choice but to respond to that. Like, do you say ignore it? No, they're saying that's why it was so good. He had no choice but to respond to that. And then he didn't get to, he didn't answer her question where she said she was trying to help the border and then he shut it down. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I didn't think it was quite as savvy as everyone said it was, but. I mean, the memes from the pet stuff is incredible. Pet stuff's the funniest thing. Pet stuff is the funniest thing. There's a little bit of a gossipy debate in general, which they've all been recently, where she'll be like,
Starting point is 00:19:09 she goes, I talked to the military guys. They hate this guy. She goes, I've been talking to different military guys. They fucking can't stand her. Basically, they go back and forth between like,
Starting point is 00:19:16 I fucking, every military guy I'm talking about thinks the guy's a chump and they go, military hates him. Very little of actual substance in the whole thing. Like you,
Starting point is 00:19:23 professors, they go, professors love my plan. She goes, professors actually were saying they love my plan. Yeah, you learn very little new. She's like, alright, I'm going to give some small business tax credit. I think that's the only thing I can remember that she said
Starting point is 00:19:35 where you go, like actual policy, small business tax credit. And they didn't talk about the deficit too much, that's for sure. No, no, they don't want to talk about the fact that they pay more in interest than the national defense budget. That not coming up somehow didn't come up somehow not a topic probably the main issue didn't seem to come up the trillions yeah they talk about inflation a bit i don't nothing i guess he said uh i mean i guess the oil one was a big one because pennsylvania essentially it's so funny like this whole election basically gets decided by like eerie pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:20:06 that kind of is it is so weird it's like this one county essentially decides the whole thing because it's essentially whoever wins pennsylvania is gonna win yeah and then they're like yeah it's like eerie which what was like a 1500 vote uh uh margin last time around and you're like yeah there's just like 1500,500 people in Pennsylvania who just get to decide the next four years of this country. Yeah, it always happens. It is interesting. Yeah, well, yeah. And they always, everybody always complains about, you know, the coastal
Starting point is 00:20:33 elites, but it's just the smack dab in the middle of Pennsylvania. It does feel like it. These ladies, the ladies I was watching at the bikes that, you know, think he's racist. They are not deciding it. No, they're not deciding shit. They're set. Yeah, they're not.
Starting point is 00:20:46 No. They're set and done. Yeah, yeah. Maybe those people in Erie, Pennsylvania are like, I love my pets. What do you mean? I mean, if they were smart, they would be, I guess that's what they're trying to do with immigrants a bit. But if they were like, if the Democrats really were smart, they'd be like, or anyone be like,
Starting point is 00:21:03 we're taking people from this the states that we won and we're giving you a huge incentive to move there yeah we're gonna move you know move yeah yeah do you want to hey you live in manhattan would you like to live in eerie pennsylvania a million people were giving you a tax break dead i mean instead of marketing though think about how much money they put into marketing yeah the money dollars into marketing you go 50 grand a year for any coastal liberals they want to go move to pennsylvania you know that's your whole thing and then you go we just moved the philly no no not philly no no no no deeper deeper in move to swing states also i thought it was funny when uh trump was railing on about how she's not gonna fire anyone yeah i mean honestly that is the kind not the worst point not the worst point
Starting point is 00:21:46 like he said in dubai he goes who have you ever fired i mean he's the i'm fire i fire people guy i fire people but you're like yeah if you're a leader you're like that's probably one of the hardest parts about being like a leader is you know like is having to make those tough decisions yeah essentially what tough decisions are you making you just let people do whatever the fuck they want and just you know finish up their terms it's the bureaucrats man you get those bureaucrats in there they are in there unless trump's in charge and then you're getting fucking fired left and right every friday someone's getting pig slips pig slip friday baby everyone's living in fear so there was uh this was a funny article that said i can't stop feeling overwhelmed about
Starting point is 00:22:24 the election uh election it's ruining my life so they've started to come out again yep yeah they're back election anxiety i want i want to not be so fucking focused on politics i'm thinking about it all the time i hate 45 republicans mike johnson susan collins all of them i worry about trump winning i need balance please helpious and overwhelmed in a historical blue Northwestern state. So... We tried reading a book.
Starting point is 00:22:48 The advice that these people are getting is back to the bad advice. That's what I'm saying. I wonder... So this is the advice they get. I wonder if it would help to switch over
Starting point is 00:23:00 from a mental doom loop to doing something tangible. Volunteering in a soup kitchen or door knocking for the Kamala Harris campaign for your local congressional race. Reading inclusive books to kids at your local library,
Starting point is 00:23:10 which is funny. Being like, have you tried reading gay porn to kids? Have you tried dressing up as a woman and then reading to kids? Have you tried reading some gay porn to kindergartners?
Starting point is 00:23:22 But, all of her thing, the whole advice they're giving people is like get more involved yeah yeah yeah well i guess they're saying get involved a little on the local level and you're like she's not doing shit by the way these people the problem is you go to a soup kitchen and you go so uh why can't you afford food they go fucking trump god damn it i was trying to get away from this they go trump's the reason why I can't fucking afford food. My fucking, all my buddies died of fentanyl.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah, exactly. Trump. The best case scenario is doing something in person that gets you out of the house and around other like-minded people, which will give you both a community to commiserate with the feeling that you aren't just spinning out alone. So I would say that's bad advice if you're like flipping out about politics to find more people that are flipping out about politics so you can spinning out alone. So I would say that's bad advice if you're like flipping out about politics
Starting point is 00:24:05 to find more people that are flipping out about politics so you can flip out together. It's like turning, basically they're saying turn it to 11. Yeah. There's like, hey, make it in your entire life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Have you tried maybe like intramural sports? Yeah. Go join a co-ed baseball league. Maybe anything other than that. But the truth is that these people aren't doing that, any of that shit. They're on a feedback loop. She goes, go volunteer at a soup kitchen.
Starting point is 00:24:29 She's like, no. No. No. Maybe some sort of... Even I was going to say volunteer at an animal shelter, but that's off the table now. That might have been okay. And then you're like, animal shelter? Those headless cats are showing up.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Surround yourself with other neurotic and obsessed people yeah is the way to do it that's probably a good one volunteer the soup kitchen wasn't a bad idea but she's not going to do that but her other ones were all you know immerse yourself even deeper in this yeah part-time job on twitter make a burner account and just post all day in this free part-time job you got yourself. Fellas, if you're not already fueling up with factors, no prep, no mess meals, you're out of your mind. This is a solution for everybody that me and Danny both use. You can meet your wellness goals thanks to the menu of chef-crafted meals with options like Calorie Smart, Protein Plus, Keto, Factors Fresh, Never Frozen Meals, Dietitian Approved approved ready to eat in just two minutes or less and no matter how busy you are you'll always have time to enjoy nutritious great tasting meals i've been on this and honestly i think one of the biggest things is for people
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Starting point is 00:28:42 water. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. His daughter appeared to deactivate the Instagram account amid his secret baby announcement. The man has another confession to make. That's what, you know, it's funny. When this first happened, that was the first thing I did. I just typed in Dave Grohl confession and I was just like, I just wanted to see
Starting point is 00:28:58 how many people made that joke. I would say it was like 250. And it's funny, a lot of people being like, I guess he's got another confession to make and being like, they dropped it like it was like 250. And it's funny. A lot of people being like, I guess he's got another confession to make him being like, they dropped it. Like it was hot. Yeah. Just see him back to back to back.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Someone was, someone was first to it. There goes my hero. There's a few, I mean, the man's late, by the way, not a bad joke.
Starting point is 00:29:18 No, not a bad joke, but just, it is what it is. If you were writing for a late night show, you got to have the wherewithal to be like, listen, it's been said. Yeah. Unless certainly that shows and they go, that's where they, we stole it is. If you were writing for a late night show, you got to have the wherewithal to be like, listen, it's been said.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah, unless certain late night shows, and they go, that's where we stole it from. Sure, yeah. But it's interesting with Dave Grohl, because I mean, okay, I'm just going to backtrack. Confession to Make is a perfect joke. It's not just a good joke. I mean, Bill Maher is going to be making that joke tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:29:43 It's been a week. Also, when I was doing stuff at the Hard Times, I believe we did an article that Dave Grohl screaming into the pastor's face. He's at the Catholic Church screaming into the pastor's face. We've got another confession to make. Give me the exact words. I got another confession to make? Give me the exact words. I got another confession to make.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Yeah. But Grohl's interesting because he was able to sort of have a squeaky, he did sort of have a clean image, you know what I mean? Yeah. When Foo Fighters first came out, I actually liked them better than Nirvana. I was never, you know I'm not a Nirvana guy. Dude, Nirvana right now, like, you know, when I was 10 or whatever it was, and Nirvana 12, and Nirvana came out, obviously they were big.
Starting point is 00:30:25 But in the last 20 years, if Nirvana ever came on the radio when I was driving, it's an instant turn off. Instant turn off for me. Instant change the channel. I mean, I've always said that if you take one note and change it from their songs, it's Nickelback. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like emo Nickelback kind of. I forgot that you thought that too because people disagree
Starting point is 00:30:45 with me very much nirvana is very don't speak the lord's name in vain for people that grew up in our generation but especially of our generation too but i mean i did like them i'm just now i'm like i'm over it i didn't like them at the time don't like them now yeah it's not even don't like it was one of those things where i would say that to me they were just another one of those bands pearl jam allison chains it's not the my most hated thing me they were just another one of those bands pearl jam alison chains it's not the my most hated thing in the world just another one of those bands he died they became the most famous thing in the world yeah and in my mind it was take any of those bands i didn't like it's not like i don't like them better or worse than pearl jam but i'm not the
Starting point is 00:31:18 biggest pearl jam fan either yeah and everyone tells you that the greatest band of all time. I like Nickelback as much as Nirvana. Yep. Probably. Yeah. Honestly. Probably. And they kind of sound the same if you actually take the songs. No, dog.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Nickelback's way harder. I saw a video of Chad Krueger the other day at a casino. Oh, yeah. People sort of like him now because he was so hated he became funny that people almost like him ironically now. And then he's probably on kind of edge a bit about his image because he knows i think now i think now it's over i think he was so i think they were like the hated band for a while and i think he probably feels that being over but i'm just saying he'll kind of kind of like care yeah but he'll go because it's when
Starting point is 00:31:58 some girls asking him to like sing and he actually starts singing and you're like probably when he was the most hated guy he's like fuck you i'm not singing oh that in the video you're talking about video and then now he's like yeah i guess oh and she because in the video basically what happens is someone's like can you sing for me and he does it and you are saying in the prime of them being hated he's probably like you're fucking with yeah get also just get the fuck out of my face like i'm not singing for i mean generally any musician you're like sing for me clown dude i told you i know right now you're like, sing for me, clown. Dude, I told you. Monkey right now. You're like, no. Monkey Ridge. I know some people that toured with Chad Kruger, and apparently they're like, he's a badass. Remember?
Starting point is 00:32:31 He was punching reporters and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was getting fist bumps. He's a fucking bird of a boy. People like him. Yeah, they were saying he's just a small town Alberta boy. Yeah. But interestingly, Dave Grohl announced his, the way that he announced his thing was like pretty
Starting point is 00:32:46 funny because it was like a press conference. But he goes, I've recently become the father of a new baby daughter born outside of marriage. I plan to be a loving and supportive parent to her. I love my new wife and my children. I'm doing everything I can to regain their trust and earn forgiveness. We're grateful for your consideration towards all the children involved as we move together, as we move forward forever. But he did it like an album drop, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah, yeah. Just a little text post on Instagram. It was interesting, though. Tough. I saw a lot of the comments on Twitter, too. Very tough. Like a lot of the bitter women were like, I'll pay you the year that that girl's, that new baby mama is born in starts with a two. You can take the man out of the band.. You can take the man out of the band.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You can't take the man out of the band. I'll tell you what, though. It was sort of like an old school, like how a mobster would say it, where they're just like, yeah, I had a kid. And we're going to, nothing's going to change. My life's not leaving me. And we're going to be raising the new kid. Like, it is what it is. I mean, I imagine.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Be mad. Yeah, I imagine he's currently in his wing of his home and this i think he was already i think he was already i don't know you're saying this was a big surprise i think that his wife's like it was a big surprise to him i'm sure like he dude he probably like this girl that he knocked up was like i'm pregnant he goes all right down let's go to the abortion clinic she's like no i'm gonna keep it he's like please don't do this come on please do not do this to me but do you think that this is the first time with his wife or this is the first time you're getting busted famous guy like that i don't know he probably can't he's not no way famous guy like that's getting away with it
Starting point is 00:34:17 the way they used to yeah i don't know i don't know i mean there's some guys who just like are kind of don't i guess don't do that i don that i don't know or maybe this is like if the first time you're getting busted is a kid oh my god that's nuclear my point to you is i doubt this is the first time he's getting busted i'm i'm thinking this is adam levine style where it's like the wife is just like what did you do now yeah what'd you do i think it's like the mob husband coming in yeah like the gumar gun tell me she's not pregnant like you know what i mean she's, what the fuck did you do now? I mean, he obviously had to post this because it was just going to be news and he had to be the first person to break it to kind of control the story.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh yeah. Yeah. So, but. Well, people are, Dave Grohl had a place in people's minds as like, you know, kind of a Jack Black where they're just like, he's, you know, he's the good guy. He's a very nice guy. The Dave Grohl baby news is especially disappointing. Here's why.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So people are very disappointed by it. Women are especially disappointed by it. Literally guys are just like, yeah, shit happens. But I think he did a pretty good job of making him the nice guy. He had this image of such a nice guy. It's hard to pull off an image where you're just like what does everyone think of this guy really nice yeah i bet you could say this whole thing is a bit of a monkey wrench it's a bit of a monkey wrench in his plans you have any
Starting point is 00:35:33 others no i don't know that many fruit fritters weenie beanie that was one of the ones on the self-titled that's uh i'm being honest i don't know that many dave girl uh dave girl reminding us that at the end of the day men will always be men shake my head i was like no maybe that should be reminding you that like that the guys who you know present themselves as the nicest guy in the world generally like maybe that's but hey i'm sure there's plenty of dudes that are just normal guys there is the funny thing is there is no shortage of guys who are not giant rock stars who find themselves in this identical predicament of course like that's funny there's some guy who just like works at the fucking soup factory who's just like god damn it fuck dude being a normal guy with a family that gets a girl pregnant she has the kid that's like one of the worst like things
Starting point is 00:36:24 you could happen to yourself oh man like you used to say that you talked about a lot how they used to always raise the other families in the other city but it's like yeah yeah two families two cities no i mean fucking it's one of those things when you think about you only get one life like that's how you're living it do you know what i mean yeah like really that's how you're living it you just got fucking two families on your ass. Or you go Nick Cannon style or like Cam Newton style and you're just knocking all these people up and then you just kind of leave them and you go, you know, see them a month, a year. That doesn't work for the nice guy.
Starting point is 00:36:54 No, no, not for the nice guy. Because you can't be, there's no way you can be I'm the fucking nicest guy in the world. Nick Cannon kind of has figured it out. Also, I got all these illegitimate children walking around starting TikTok accounts, how my dad doesn't even fucking see me and I'm living on the street Dr. Dre style. Yeah, Nick Cannon kind of does have the nice guy thing, though, down a bit. I feel like he's not- He's black!
Starting point is 00:37:12 I know. Well, Cam Newton, though, Cam Newton, former Carolina Panthers quarterback, he did a club, I think he, oh, no, he did not club change, but he did some interview where he's basically like, I never want to be married. My whole deal's like, I'm just knocking up these chicks. And he got a lot of heat for it the way he kind of framed it yeah but nick cannon is kind of saying he pulls it off a little bit nick cannon pulls it off because he's almost like uh he's like you know i'm just like a godly man who wants to spread his seed he also dips into
Starting point is 00:37:36 the language they like where he was like you know i'm polyamorous he kind of says stuff like that like he he dips he sort of sells it in a way that maybe women will understand but i'm sure that there's lots of normal chicks that are like this nick cannon thing's ridiculous yeah they think it's ridiculous i think he i think he was able to sell it a little more more to the community basically essentially like i just need to have i need to have 10 kids or 15 that is the best way and there's not really a feasible way to do it with a single the best way to sell it is you go why are you having so many kids out of wedlock you go there's a population issue i'm a hero yeah and you know i just want to you know i want to spread my
Starting point is 00:38:17 do you think i want to have a huge lineage but i think you're adding the want in there which i think that makes it a little less sellable i think the thing that sells it is you're like i would love i would love to not have 15 kids but like i'm saving the world imagine dave girl that's how he started he goes population decline is a real problem it keeps me up every night i think that would have been the mood that's why i had one more kid 23 years later that's exactly what he should have said yeah there's a population crisis in america that being said i'm only one man i've been doing as much as i can you know and we all have to make sacrifices in my case the sacrifices my wife fucking pissed off you know some big tour from dave girl coming up by the way fucking 380 day tour coming up from dave girl very shortly oh new new new town every
Starting point is 00:39:17 night huh he goes i'm playing all the towns i've never hit before have you never seen the food fighters you're about to i promise we'll play a fucking bar in your 20 person town because i can't really be at home girls coming to bowmanville ontario oh yeah i honestly fire up the tour bus i think you're on to something with the population control thing that would have been that's how you that's how you have to start it yeah but yeah the dave girl once uh described his wife as his future ex-wife. So apparently he's been joking about that, which I remember a lot of people in the bin saying future ex-wife was a big thing.
Starting point is 00:39:53 You would say that was a good pickup line. That was almost up there with there she is. Good pickup line, future ex-wife. Future ex-wife is a huge pickup line. It was too saturated at one point. I remember the Toronto scene. Future ex-wife was used fucking pickup line it was too saturated at one point yeah i remember the toronto scene future ex-wife was used fucking 20 times a night at every bar there she is future it's a good one though by the way because just quick side note i've been talking about
Starting point is 00:40:18 guardian angels a little bit like the guys in new york beat people up I have this joke with the berets yeah like the Curtis Sliwas the heroes well I've had this joke for a bit where I've been sort of I always think it's funny that like
Starting point is 00:40:31 my mom's really into the idea of like guardian angels and angels yeah and so but you know I've kind of she talks about like
Starting point is 00:40:37 when someone dies like you know they're an angel watching over us and to me the funny part is it's like a lot of times
Starting point is 00:40:44 it's the person that was like alcoholic and you're just like that gotta be the worst guardian but also also the funny part to me is when you are if you are if you die and you're like hey now you go back to have to earth and you're a guardian angel like you have a job now you have a job now and that job is potentially watching over your wife as she fucks this new guy. Like your wife's remarried and you're just like an invisible cop, right? I mean, that's probably the best part. The worst part is just like watching her
Starting point is 00:41:09 do all this boring bullshit all day and you're like, you know, she's cleaning the fucking, some mug. You're off the clock. Well, no, you're not off the clock because like that could break and like slash her wrist. But you can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You can't intervene. Like what are you doing? I don't know. But so I started looking. I kind of started thinking. My joke was kind of that, like, a lot of moms just, like, take the things of the religions they like and just turn it into their own religion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Like, they're like, I'm kind of spiritual. And really what that means is you, like, took the parts you liked and sort of made your own version. Yeah. Which is, they made it, they sort of turned it into a buffet of the things they like about different religions. So then I started looking into it. I go, where does guardian angels actually come from?
Starting point is 00:41:43 What is this? Right? And when I looked into it, it was old testament apparently has the angels okay i don't think when you die you get to be a guardian angel but it's certain people get to be guardian angels so i was gonna that's where the reason i bring it up is it sounds like it's the jewish bible the 1.0 before they you know the spoilers made the new version have you ever heard of this uh you know what i don't remember my my uh knowledge of the old testament uh is very limited you had to read it for school though didn't you yeah but it was in hebrew and i was totally you're just pretending you're pretending totally checked out like i was fucking dude i was literally just drawn drawing any sitting there
Starting point is 00:42:20 i was just like rival and in in inside the cover It's just the cover of the Hebrew Bible, and inside's just the game. Yeah. Yeah, I was doing anything to not have to participate in that. Options trades for 10-year-olds. Yeah. No, I don't remember Guardian Angel stuff. That I don't remember. That's what I was wondering.
Starting point is 00:42:41 So maybe it's not a big topic in the Old Testament. It might be. Seems like that's not a big topic in the Old Testament. It might be. Seems like that's where it came from, the other Bible. Yeah, it might be, but I just don't know about it. Before they souped it up. I mean, we didn't really talk about the devil. There's no real devil in, like, you know, there's no devil stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And I don't know if that's part of it, but I don't remember. They had angels, though, in that one. It seemed like, well, I looked it up, and that's where it came from yeah allegedly so we've been talking about we're not talking about so much i've been just making some videos uh raw dogging yeah it is to me like one of the funniest things a raw dog to comedy set yeah so i you know i always kind of mentioned that there's like a trajectory with like a female media where it starts out by like a bunch of dudes do something. They start out by being,
Starting point is 00:43:31 uh, why this sucks, you know, whether that be crypto, why this is dangerous, why this is sucks, why this is dangerous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah. There was some wide raw dogging is dangerous. You're like, you could die raw dogging a flight. And it's, you know, whether that's been like crypto, there's probably been, you know, I think they had, you know, a lot of finance things.
Starting point is 00:43:51 They had some version of that. But they start out. Like golfing can kill you. Yeah. So they start out with why it's dangerous. And then once that doesn't stick, they're like, well, here's why we should be in it. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah. Yeah. Once they couldn't get rid of it, they go, well, now we're doing it. Right, why action movies suck. Now it's like why we need to be in more of them, right? Yep. But, so they've finally come up with their own raw dogging. Gen Z's obsessed with this new trend of silent walking
Starting point is 00:44:19 that people are calling game changing. So now it's amazing. Sure. And this one's better. Yeah, they figured out the term for going for a walk without your phone really it is it's all it is this one is they downplayed it for sure because doing a 10-hour flight with just the maps actually hard yeah that's hard no water no bathroom this is a 10-minute walk you may have only just found out and you're trying to get over
Starting point is 00:44:42 the phenomenon of raw dogging prepare to make way for the new trend taking over the internet. It's not taking over the internet. Called silent walking. So then you're walking on the sidewalk. Not only do you have to walk in silence, but you're also stripped of your headphones, phone, or anything else. So going for a walk is the trend. I mean, I will say this. For a woman, being silent is pretty tough.
Starting point is 00:45:03 That's right. This is actually, this is the equivalent of no water on an eight hour flight is just not talking for 20 minutes. She's like, I'm a, you know, I'm going to go for a walk.
Starting point is 00:45:13 You're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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Starting point is 00:45:23 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no going outside. But, yes, the first point is that it always starts with demonizing then it starts with why we need to focus it around us.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Sure. I mean, I do that sometimes. What do you do? I'm a trendsetter. I go for walks without my shirt. Do you actually go for walks without your phone? Uh-huh. Why? Just to think. It's the Steve Jobs thing. They're acting like they invented this. But then if you think, where can you write it? I feel like I need somebody to write it down if I think of stuff. Where can I?
Starting point is 00:45:48 Well, I have my Apple Watch. I'm not going to bring a pad and paper. I have my Apple Watch so I can take an audio note on it. Do you? No, but I usually remember it. If it's something that I'll usually remember. If it's something good. Memory and body like an elephant.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah. Yeah, I'll usually remember it, though. But I do that. I'll go for 10, 10 15 i would like to do that sort of stuff but my problem is then i can't remember my stuff yeah it's usually like gone with the wind it's one it's the thing is is it'll be one thing like when i do it i'll be like i want to think about one thing or just to you know what straight up just like clear your mind so when you come back it's like you're a little better. But if I'm trying to think about one thing, then I'll just go for a walk and just think about the single thing. I find that's okay.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And then I don't think any time where I'll really forget anything. Well, they're saying that that's a trend. Yeah. I mean, this is Steve Jobs famously and I think Albert Einstein. Well, everyone says it. I think it's a good idea. I just also need something to write my stuff down. I don't want to bring a piece of paper with me.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're also just describing a walk from 20 years ago. A walk. But we also mentioned that the third point is we also mentioned that if you want to get girls to do something, you have to turn it into a trend. Yeah, you got to turn it into a trend that men started. Yeah. And then that they're like, you can't do this.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Come on. You got to try to beat your personal record of fucking silent walking. It's so funny. You're going for a walk together and you go, we're silent walking. Silent walking. It's a trend. Ready? Go.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Yeah. You know what? Our friend sent us this, but I thought it was a really interesting man-women point. But they said, girls persist more more but divest less from ineffective teaching than boys and it's stubborn yeah i guess you could describe it as well funnily it's stubborn yeah but yeah i mean women will do the same thing wrong over and over again in the face of all this insurmountable evidence so yes that's the funny version for sure that's to the contrary gotcha right it's you know how many times you try it
Starting point is 00:47:52 it's the definition of insanity trying the same thing and expecting a different result but i guess the other part you could you know the first part of it is you're like potentially they're more trusting you know what i mean they more influenced by their people yeah but i'll say in my own, so boys and girls are capable of testing the effectiveness of teaching. However, on average, girls are more likely to persist in a taught solution while boys are more
Starting point is 00:48:12 likely to explore alternatives, creating gender disadvantages. So the reason they're bringing it up is potentially they're saying that disadvantages for girls in success and learning when the teaching is ineffective. So it kind of, you can think of, you know, when the, whatever, like if the media is telling you something and it's wrong if uh the standard way of teaching something which i always say it's math i always say the standard way
Starting point is 00:48:33 of teaching math is like very wrong for people in general i mean dude you look at how they teach it in china and stuff and they the and i think like you know europe and it's it's totally different way of well there's some of it's really easily like, I mean, just think of like from mentally when fractions, for example, we say two fifths, right? If you tell people out of five, take two, a two year old can understand that.
Starting point is 00:48:56 But when you say two fifths, people's brains have a harder time with it. So you go out of five, you go out of five things, take two. Everyone kind of, so China does it like that. They also don't have the, you know, instead of 13, 14, if that was one, two, one, three, two, one, two, two. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I mean, everybody. There's a lot of mathematical things that just make people's brain. Like how do you in your brain compute like 23 plus 68? Do you mean, are you asking me or is it?'m asking you yeah i'm asking you how would i do 23 plus 68 yeah i would add the first numbers then the second numbers yeah yeah me too but some people do some people do it differently yeah you'd add the two and the six yeah 80 plus 11 yes yeah but some people don't do it but you do that calculation in like a millisecond yeah for sure but some people don't do it that way like's like there's different ways and some people's brains just like for whatever reason don't work that way but i think that's the problem is a lot of times they learn tricks like
Starting point is 00:49:51 when you're talking about like fractions you go if you're uh dividing them you you know flip it and times them like when you tell people tricks they never learned the original thing right right so it's like everyone's learning something but yeah there's a whole bunch of those things so when they add it up it kind of a lot times, this is a thing where, for example, if you're talking about like dating or whatever, who you're going to, you know, be together with for a long period of time, right? The importance of, if they have like bad parents, for example, or, you know, grew up, like if they grew up, a lot of times people grow up in a household
Starting point is 00:50:26 that's like has fucking retarded views on like finance and shit like that yeah you know what i mean they like it's like it's way harder to get them out of that yeah absolutely i mean which is interesting though the way you grow up definitely impacts a lot well but the idea is it's it's it impacts it more for women yeah i mean also like if they have bad family advice if they if they were with a guy that like uh was very influential and they're like you know 15 to 25 and they sort of inherited that like bad thinking yeah it's harder for them to break out of it so that it is true that they're kind of correct that it is very important to have correct you know uh teaching because it's more influential and sticks harder.
Starting point is 00:51:05 It explains why they don't invent much. Do you think so? I don't know. Do women invent a lot of stuff? It explains why they don't invent much because they don't break away from the conventional thinking as much. Yeah, because you need to break away to the conventional thinking to actually come up.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yeah, that and Belkin. Maybe they innovate. But in terms of actual pure inventions you're building on something as opposed to sort of breaking down the first principles of it yeah so yeah i guess yeah it depends so i guess the positive is you're like it can have an advantage if there's you know teachers happen to be great but if the teachers happen to be bad it's like a big disadvantage so i think it's something to look out for you can kind of see in people where it's like if they have all these wacky ideas,
Starting point is 00:51:47 with a woman, it's going to be harder to get rid of them. Yeah. But in terms of nurturing, they can't be beat. In terms of nurturing, they're such sick nurturers.
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Starting point is 00:56:46 conventional thinking they've realized that like well if you realize they're lying about something you might start thinking they're lying about some other things yeah this is literally like why aren't you listening to the government all the time they have your best interest at heart belief in aliens visiting earth is spiraling out of control here's why that's so dangerous which as our as per our conversation i think it's about a two-month countdown to be like why believing alien spaces don't have enough women right of course of course yeah why why aren't women more active in the ufo space why the believing in alien space is dominated by well i mean literally they're like you believe in
Starting point is 00:57:26 ufos ufos is just the uh this is the pipeline it's the gateway drug to it is a little bit yeah challenging covid like essentially they're like once you start getting down that and then you start asking other now you're talking about world war ii on tucker carlson yeah basically 9-11 conspiracies 9-11 probably got a lot of people in what yeah aliens are probably the original probably the easiest gateway conspiracy man i here's the funny thing is conspiracies used to be just be like the domain of like you know the nuttiest guys and then i had this guy on my show the other day who he's a not he runs this 9-11 truth center thing it's called the nine international center for 9-11 justice what have you been getting up to over there on your youtube channel he's the he's the he was the most
Starting point is 00:58:09 fucking normal guy yeah yeah it's a it's interesting very i love the 9-11 but he was literally the most normal guy and he he used to work for these like engineers who were like this engineering thing where they're like yeah 9-11 like just from an engineering standpoint like a lot of the stuff like doesn't make sense and then his new thing is he's like going through all the call logs and he's like all the a lot of the call logs because the people were making calls from the flights and he's like so many of these like don't make sense and they're like uh the times of them like don't add up and there's like all these weird inconsistencies but you're like this used to be some crazy dude and you're now it's just like totally normal guy who's like yeah you know we go through this this and this and then you listen
Starting point is 00:58:47 to you're like you know i guess the more time passes the more that it that uh i mean 9-11 is like now it's like it was yesterday and you know what's your theory as to why that is i mean like anything you know the more time passes you can kind of you know you can kind of just start talking shit about anything, really. Yeah. People start, you go, that was a long time ago. I mean, it's like Daryl Cooper said on Tucker Carlson, where he's like, you know, the World War II is this untouchable thing, but it's like, you can talk anything you want about
Starting point is 00:59:17 the Civil War. Nobody gives a shit about that. Or Rome. Or whatever. The Mongols. I mean, yeah, you can write an article being like that you know the gaelic warriors were actually all trans yeah there's no repercussions here's why jenkins con wasn't so bad whatever you want to do yeah you can kind of do that yeah nobody cares yeah
Starting point is 00:59:36 certain amount of time passes and then i mean even like just new york this was the first 9-11 where i felt like it wasn't that big of a deal like they didn't make that big of a deal of it here as they even did like when i moved here five years ago i agree with that i mean even doing they did their uh like everyone was just like posting stuff as normal like companies and stuff like yeah yeah exactly like people exactly it's not like you get it's lost a bit of its luster in that response usually like you have to get a i know that people went to the thing but usually it's like you know the the entire the entire media is like john stewart giving speeches and it felt like it was sort of a third dairy uh thing yeah this year yeah i agree with that yeah people just are like it's just business as usual you get your standard post or
Starting point is 01:00:20 whatever but it wasn't like the real rah-rah america shit maybe because america's so divided right now possibly maybe i don't know but yeah it it's it's losing its steam like it gets a little thing and then that's it even possibly because like new york city possibly like the you know probably if you say the left like doesn't there's not going to be doing like pro-america shit and the right half of them i think we did it yeah exactly that's probably the best yeah yeah like the left is like good yeah and then yeah the right's like yeah they didn't even do it so yeah there's that yeah i saw you do twitter i saw uh i it's it's hard to know what's real what's not but i saw some big thing uh basically uh uh big thing on twitter that was just like osama bin laden talking about how he didn't do it had nothing to do with it yeah i remember the letter was it last year with the
Starting point is 01:01:10 letter from osama bin laden that everybody was freaking out about because i was going viral on tiktok it was after october 7th the letter from osama bin laden everybody was going viral everyone was freaking out about but uh yeah i mean dude the anthrax thing like if you remember the anthrax thing is like they if you remember right after 9-11 all these people were getting sent anthrax in the u.s or whatever it's part of this documentary that the guy wrote and then uh i and i didn't even know this but they were getting sent anthrax and then they were like the iraqis are you know they're taliban sending anthrax all over and then uh it came out that like it was like the testing and whatever and then they're like yeah anthrax all over. And then it came out that like, it was like the testing and whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:46 And then they're like, yeah, that's, that's bullshit. Like they don't even have access to this. This type of anthrax could only be found in the United States. And then the United States government basically do like what's called like a limited hangout where they have to admit some of the details.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And they're like, well, like, and they're using this as a pretext to like invade Iraq and all this stuff. And then they're like, yeah, I guess it wasn't that like it came from the United States, but it's like still bad or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:06 And like, it's nonsense. Yeah. I mean, dude, it's like, you know, it's essentially like a second Pearl Harbor. Like so they could just use this. I mean, I don't know. What? Get us a little label underneath here,
Starting point is 01:02:18 but we already have so many, but. They do like slapping us with labels yeah it is so funny though because like wikipedia is just like yeah this is the source of information and anything against this is not true i know and then youtube says that and you're like yeah i mean come on like you have to stop there are so many questions here like there are so many things that don't add up well how does a fire on the roof make a fucking building collapse? I'm not the biggest alien guy, as I've said, because to me, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:02:52 I don't find it that particularly interesting. And if I was to bet every dollar I have, I would that we will die without having any more information that we have now. That's just... Probably a good bet. And I bet in 20 years, we could have this conversation where I'll be like, I've been saying this for 30 years. yeah so it to me it feels like almost an uh an exercise
Starting point is 01:03:09 that is purely for fun yeah to some degree that's just how i think i don't even have like a which is how it started i don't even have a strong statement on whether i think it's real or not real or whatever i just i think this is going to be irrelevant in my lifetime that's my opinion yeah i mean yeah in the in the grand scheme of things i i agree but the idea that uh anyone questioning you go to say that it's dangerous is just hilarious that they all that well because they're no longer one down the ladder of like what the acceptable conspiracy theory this is literally how weed was dangerous they go it's a gateway drug. Like they go, weed will get you.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Like I don't have anybody who fucking. Weed went the other way sort of now though. I feel like weed used to be, you're saying how weed used to be. Now people sort of. Everybody was like, weed's a gateway drug. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's like. How weed used to be, yeah. Weed's like medicine and drugs of obnoxious people and you know, and now it's like. I think that's their pitch on aliens
Starting point is 01:04:03 is yeah, it's the weed of next thing you know your question yeah exactly next year question 9-11 and who does that help you're taking a peek at the federal reserve's actions yeah where did that 2.3 trillion dollars go donald rumsfeld that's it all starts with yeah oh there's a guy in a green suit poking around next thing you know you know you're you're fucking looking at moon landing footage. You're looking at Jeff. Yeah, you're watching the 9-11 Pentagon crash over and over again being like,
Starting point is 01:04:29 where are the wings on this thing? Now you're too deep into it. It all starts with the green Martians. Yeah. In a paper accepted for publication in the Proceedings of the International Astronomical Union,
Starting point is 01:04:42 that's a fucking weird union, I argue that the belief in alien visitors is no longer a quirk it is a widespread societal problem it is there this we've dude we've kind of said this for a long time that is like they looked at that as like that's the quirky one you're allowed to do yeah it's like they're verbatim saying not so quirky anymore quirky and it's funny that one of the reasonings too is they're like yeah people like uh they're like yeah people like uh ufos and stuff and conspiracy theories way more than they like like science yeah i don't know most people are dumb yeah but also yeah one of them you can just there's like
Starting point is 01:05:23 a low entry cost yeah you're like I don't have to be an expert. It's not this like dry material that I don't understand. It's like pretty easy to wrap your head around. If you love aliens so much, why don't you fucking look at molecular biology? Yeah, exactly. You're like, I don't want to do that. Yeah, because you don't need a PhD to fucking think of aliens. You can understand aliens instantly.
Starting point is 01:05:40 It's not. It ultimately encourages conspiracy theories, which could undermine trust in democratic in democratic institutions to me the funny part good you they never talk about whether the institutions are undermining their own trust i remember they're full maybe they're full of shit and they're lying to you you know this is though danny them saying that uh if you get involved with aliens it might undermine trust in democratic institutions. This is the guy saying, I didn't ruin our night.
Starting point is 01:06:08 You ruined our night by looking through the phone. Yeah. This is David Grohl saying, I didn't ruin our life. You ruined our life by poking around and messaging this girl. Yeah, my messenger's going, finding out that I knocked her up and then we have another kid.
Starting point is 01:06:30 They go, if you start asking questions it might lower your trust in democratic institutions you go are they completely trustworthy you go that's not the fucking not the point missing the forest for the trees here yeah definitely so that's but it is funny that the clamp down never it never never doesn't start a little further. It's always a little further, a little further. It's just alien stuff. You go, no, no, no. I mean, it's great. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:51 No, no, no. I love the just believe all government and trust them people. All the way. You're like, there's a million things. You go, every government? You go, no, just yours. Yeah, just yours. You go, there's literally a million things.
Starting point is 01:07:02 What about Russia? Are they lying? Yeah, they're lying. But our government's never lied. Never yeah never every single person has ever worked in it sure okay okay i mean is this written by the government what about the times that we find it found out that they lied you go and they admitted it you go those are the only times yeah those are the only times yeah yeah those are there's a few times that happened it's never again yeah it's like 9-11 that was the only time that. Yeah. It's like 9-11.
Starting point is 01:07:26 That was the only time that anyone's ever lied. I mean, 9-11 is like, even the conspiracy, if you remove the conspiracy around 9-11 of like, who did the Twin Towers, like, Iraq had nothing to do with it. Regardless, there was some lies. And they knew that. Like, there's no shortage of elected officials who were like, yeah, they're like, we just invaded them anyways. Okay, ask a question to me.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Say that this Iraq thing doesn't make sense. Isn't it weird that this Iraq thing doesn't make sense? Oh, let me guess. You've been looking at your alien videos again. This is how it fucking starts. Okay, aliens are banned. No more. Take away his alien books.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Well, that's the problem on YouTube is you look at a UFO thing and then the recommended, you watch your UFO. That actually may be true. No, YouTube is you look at a UFO thing and then the recommended watch your UFO. That actually may be true. No, legitimately. You get through the UFO and he goes, was 9-11 real? I mean, there probably is some truth to it, but it's like you can't try to convince people
Starting point is 01:08:19 like looking at it. You wonder if the universe has aliens. It's like, think about how many movies are about aliens. You're like, yes, but if you don't leave that movie being like, there's no chance, we got fucking problems here, pal. And I mean, you know, there's a lot of propaganda about alien movies
Starting point is 01:08:34 and Mars attacks and all this stuff. Sure. Where Americans are the good guys and aliens are the bad guys. Yeah, it's racist against aliens. Yeah. I mean, that would be the next step, obviously. There have been some humorous calls to storm area 51 but after storming the capital in 2021 this now looks like an increasingly dangerous possibility yeah let me tell you nobody's getting
Starting point is 01:08:56 past the fucking velvet ropes in area 51 i promise you why not it's a top secret military base oh you don't know dude you step the worst day in the history of the world. You step foot on fucking area, go breach their fence or whatever the fuck. I don't even think you can get within 200 feet without having guns trained on you. It is a top secret military site. If they think that's possible,
Starting point is 01:09:18 Area 51 is not a tourist attraction. Just a bunch of random people. Dude, last year when I drove to Skank Fest, we drove through Arizona and Nevada, and I tried tried to area 51 is not on a map like if you google go google maps area 51 nothing comes up because because you could find out where it is yeah yeah but it is a top secret military facility like it's not for no visitors welcome i agree i think they'd probably have a hard time storming it but they're gonna're going to get fucking gunned down by machine gun turrets. But it started...
Starting point is 01:09:47 So right now we have... Okay, so you can't be into aliens because it might lead to conspiracies. You also can't be into aliens because of January 6th. They're like, you know, we used to allow you to do whatever you want, but you've proven that you can't be trusted. You can't be trusted with all this thinking. You can't be trusted with thinking. No.
Starting point is 01:10:03 So now they have that Now that's the first two Now it goes to too much background noise About UFOs and UAPs Can also get in the way of legitimate science Communications so they're saying it's not trusting science They'll handle whether there's aliens or not But the possibility of
Starting point is 01:10:20 Finding extraterrestrial life I don't know how it's getting in the way Astrobiology, the science dealing with such matters, has far less effective publicity machine than the UFO-ology. So they're saying that a lot of these big UFO guys... Yeah, it's like Ancient Aliens has like 12 million subscribers on their channel, and the NASA biology channel
Starting point is 01:10:41 has like 20K. And you're like, yeah, because it's dork shit. Yeah, exactly. It's just too complex I was like getting the way of their science though they're just like people are busting into their labs being like no no dog alien visitation narrative
Starting point is 01:10:54 has also repeatedly tried to hijack and overwrite the history of indigenous people the modern alien visitation narrative has not after all emerged out of indigenous people the modern alien visitation narrative has not after all emerged out of indigenous communities quite the opposite so there we get to the final point is it's racist it's racist as well yeah they should be like very much to be like well you know what these these
Starting point is 01:11:16 ufo things are stupid just pacify yourself with some monday night football and then they love that yeah yeah but taylor smith's playing the halftime show. We got Kendrick. By the way, is Kendrick Lamar going to be calling Drake a pedophile at the Super Bowl halftime show? Hey, don't make me fucking talk about this again. But it's like he's playing the Super Bowl halftime show. Is he going to be calling Drake a pedophile? If the man had any class whatsoever, he wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:11:44 But I'm saying is the NFL going to allow this? I was saying this to Johnnyny when i found out about it we were filming and i was looking at it being like it'd be the least classy move in history if he plays that song but i'm more worried like not a classy man these la people like is the nfl they're like hey do the pedophile stuff on is very very unclassy we'll pretend like we asked you not to but get it in there i'll tell you what if it was the other way around us toronto boys would not be doing that because that's not that's a very unclassy act. We'll pretend like we asked you not to, but get it in there. I'll tell you what, if it was the other way around, us Toronto boys would not be doing that because that's a very unclassy move. It's like you shake the guy's hand after the fight.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Yeah, absolutely. You think Drake's going to do the RFK Jr. thing where he's going to do his own halftime show at the same time? He does the Kobayashi. Yeah, exactly. The Kobayashi, like how RFK was like the debates were happening.
Starting point is 01:12:22 He wasn't invited, so he just did his own debate at the exact same time. Drake's been doing all sorts of weird stuff lately. Tune into my halftime show. He's kind of in Will Smith territory where Drake's been doing all sorts of weird stuff. He's just like releasing, doing all these weird releases, posting weird photos. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah. So he's, but yes, that's my final last comment about that is it would be a very unclassy move if he does play that song. I'll tell you what conspiracy theory would unravel this whole country. The NFL's fucking rigged. Let me tell you. Well, they had a few of those, didn't they? I mean... That's one of the original things
Starting point is 01:12:54 we said in our thing where that's a conspiracy that they allow you to be into, but they might not let you be in that. That would destabilize this country if people... Well, the NFL is actually listed as an entertainment company, not a sport like it's so that they can technically there's no so they can technically like manipulate the outcomes without uh legal ramifications yeah i guess there's some gambling implications there's gambling
Starting point is 01:13:18 implications but yeah i mean the nfl like for sure like they you know they can pick refs i mean it's been known like all sports do this where they pick refs and they give certain players passes sumo wrestling is the most rigged in all sports sumo wrestling is the super rigged one yeah that was in uh freakonomics yeah yeah i believe the goal of all this alien stuff is essentially to stigmatize it to people that do listen to them so they what they want to do essentially with all this stuff is they want to make it so your hobby like if you say you're into aliens they want people to be like oh he's one of those yeah like that's what they just what it was
Starting point is 01:13:54 oh they just wanted to go back to no but nerd stuff i i think we're all fine with that like they were originally it was kind of like my whole thing's aliens they might think of it in line with oh this guy's like in the star wars camp oh yeah yeah not like obviously the same thing but you might think of him that type of person i think they'd like to switch it to they want to make this to chemtrails yes like you're like a big chemtrail guy like yes they want to make it you have an opinions on aliens like you're not deferring to the experts it's like oh i see you're probably you hate jews yeah you go yes i do that is separate from i don't know what that has to do with the ufo stuff the recommended feed what am i supposed to do they just know what i like and you know what
Starting point is 01:14:37 this might work a little bit because the nerds are susceptible to female bullying and i think a guy right that wrote this but it is female bullying to nerds because i think you know if you get girls telling nerds like hey you're not don't do this yeah i think nerds are a little susceptible to that unless they've kind of crossed the the path to incel where they they no longer care what women think yeah if they start going to the gym but if you know if you think of high school, it's like the most people that will be privy to listening to women's rules are nerds that don't get pussy. Well, only the kind of alpha nerds. If you go to a Magic the Gathering, whatever tournament, most of those guys are not even.
Starting point is 01:15:20 What's an alpha nerd? The alpha nerd is always the one where the one's around him and they go, go oh my god he's going to talk to a woman that's can you believe it and he's still he's still like a total nerd but he's like the alpha nerd like where he can like he has like minimal social skills he's a little susceptible to it he is because he can taste it where what it's like on the other side like he's like i could see what it looks like on the other side where these like super autistic nerds who are like you know just wear whatever clothes and they don't care about any appearance greasy hair they're like they cross over never again but that's what i'm saying i think i'm using the word inside i don't have a better word for it but when it crosses those guys could cross who cares what they think yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:15:59 but yeah you're right it's the nerds that still have like potential pussy coming at them yeah yeah they're gonna like talk to a woman yeah yeah whereas like and make eye contact and keep eye But yeah, you're right. It's the nerds that still have like potential pussy coming at them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who can like talk to a woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas like I make eye contact and keep eye contact with somebody. But you know what it is? There's a switch where some dudes that put women on a pedestal, where they switch to now they fuck women.
Starting point is 01:16:19 And I think it's like the probably ground where they put women on like a pedestal, like some normal chick talks to them and they're like she's a goddess yeah simps i guess you might say simps so you were throwing the nerd round where you were not great in our terminology but people probably understand the picture we're trying to paint yeah but i think they're the most susceptible to getting to like female bullying yeah is the the dudes that put them on a pedestal. Yeah, exactly. That's accurate. And they go, the research... Okay, so this is in the... I'm going to switch gears,
Starting point is 01:16:50 but it's another science article. Okay. And this is going to blow your mind right now, but the weight loss drug Ozempic has been linked to fewer COVID deaths. Wow. No one knows why. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Harvard scientists don't want to draw any conclusions. Going to the gym has been linked to fewer covet deaths this study is fucking incredible wow what a study this is on news in harvard and it's harvard scientists and all the harvard scientists are like it's enormous correlation but we're not sure it could be anything i've been saying it for six months scientists aren't doing jack shit anymore i don't know what they are not i don't know i don't know what they're doing but buddy there was a study that uh uh we had on our docket that i don't know if we ended up covering it maybe it was going to be on the patreon but um basically it was a fucking full study and it said gen z men increasingly can't find the clitoris it's just like who the fuck's running this study the pervious
Starting point is 01:17:45 scientist of all time yeah but more importantly you know you gotta get the other study in there too for equality whereas the dude
Starting point is 01:17:52 just being like girls give bad head yeah a lot of teeth we told these bitches to use all his teeth Harvard study says
Starting point is 01:18:01 your chicks have been giving fucking teethy head Gen Z women give teethy head. Gen Z women give teethy blowies. It's like, what the fuck? Who's giving them these grants? So weight loss drug linked to fewer COVID death. Trial
Starting point is 01:18:17 study has found that the injections of the weight loss drug reduced the risk of deaths from COVID by about a third. So we're talking 35 percent here yeah that's significantly reducing death from cardiovascular disease cardiovascular disease or any other cause the studies show that patients were about 15 less likely to die 23 likely uh to die from other reasons uh compared to those who took the placebo. Overall death rates in the group
Starting point is 01:18:47 taking, it's Wagovi, isn't it? Were 19% lower. The fact that semaglutinide semaglutide reduced non-cardiovascular death, in particular COVID-19 related death, was surprising COVID-19 related death,
Starting point is 01:19:06 was surprising. Really? I mean, literally, I did. I remember the most fucking, like, I don't know what pill this is, but I remember watching some show right in the heart of COVID, and it was like, these are, it was 60 minutes, actually,
Starting point is 01:19:21 and like, these are all the people who died of COVID, and they were all like 400 pounds. I remember that. And I go i go okay so this is clear what's going on here so i'm fucked god damn it uh but it was either like yeah they're either 95 or 400 pounds i go okay it's pretty clear what's going on here these scientists i guess they're being pc scientists is what's happening yeah you got but their minds blown and they go they uh they go the researchers do not know if the benefit of wagovi is due to weight loss or other effects did they so normally a research study starts with i haven't had a science class in a while but it starts with a hypothesis so generally generally i'm curious what the hypothesis well they obviously that's the hypothesis but they're just not allowed to say their hypothesis because it's these fit in the nerds these are the nerds that are afraid of women right yeah yeah they go what's
Starting point is 01:20:12 your hypothesis i go this is the uh first study that i don't really have one dude it's literally a fucking i don't have one it's some nerd yeah he does the study he goes to his uh you know the the the head of the department and he's doing his study and he's talking about his findings and he goes you know the we've done this and the wagovi actually reduces risk of death and then it's this 400 pound lady being like do you have any hypothesis to why he goes we don't know it could be anything or she's like why would that be what why did you have any reasons that yeah the guy's just sitting in the in the dead in the board meeting yeah just like fucking petrified
Starting point is 01:20:55 just shaking uh chihuahua maybe uh there's some compound it's probably something there's some compound in wagovi that uh prevents kovid it's so funny though the lady's just sitting there 100 pounds overweight being like why she's eating her food at the time and he's just like none of us have any idea we don't it's just a hypothesis that we pulled out of fat thin air and uh i don't don't know could be anything you've seen the youtuber who's done the nakato avocado nakato avocado yeah i don't know what's going on publicity stunt weird guy big publicity stunt yeah he was he was the ultimate i don't know if i ever sent you the article but i saw on chris williamson's podcast but it was all about this guy wrote this piece on substack about audience capture and we talked about it on this this because the whole thing was he was making gaming videos or something.
Starting point is 01:21:48 And then people started liking him getting fat. Doing the mukbangs. Mukbangs. And then his audience essentially just forced him to gain 300 pounds. A bit of audience capture. But it turns out this guy was playing 4D chess. Because he was just posting old videos of him fat while he was losing weight. Well, I don't know the guy well enough to know this.
Starting point is 01:22:04 But if his if his thing was i'm doing like a mac from always sunny yeah where it's like oh i'm putting on weight but then i'm gonna lose it if he thought that the whole time it was like this was like a crit and he's getting articles written about him right and left yeah like if this was a marketing play i mean that is like the easiest content to bank there's like no you know you're like you just are eating you're fat once you do a hundred you do uh two a day i guess i can't do that many a day but yeah you can well muck man how many times can you eat as much as you can in a day twice i mean i do it three times a day three times a day
Starting point is 01:22:36 i mean listen i i'm not in this guy's head but it's potentially a savvy marketing move yeah you know but then some of these YouTubers will do anything all about the content. You go, all right, we're going for 400 pounds. Well, he did normal stuff, too. He just does random. He'll just do some other challenges. You know what I mean? He'll be a gym guy or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Oh, that would be a crazy departure. He goes, just doing workout videos with Dr. Mike. Yeah, the problem is you got the skin now. You're fucking sitting on skin. I've been researching these thousand pound sisters because I've been kind of obsessed with it and they got fucking skin galore right now they're swimming in the stuff oh yeah yeah yeah yeah fucking it's like a skeleton and a tarp oh yeah yeah yeah it's it's not good this rakim phoenix article is maybe one of the best things i've ever seen in my life fucking homophobe sick hakeem phem Phoenix dodges questions about why he left the Todd Haynes gay romance film at the Venice Film Festival.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Hakeem Phoenix. He's not gay enough. Yeah, it's probably because he's not gay enough. Yeah. Hakeem Phoenix agreed to be in this film. Are you calling him Hakeem? What do you call him? Joaquin?
Starting point is 01:23:41 I'm going with Hakeem. That's like a... Joaquin? Joaquin. Hmm. Not Hakeem. Joaquin? Joaquin. Hmm. Not Hakeem. Joaquin. Joaquin.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Joaquin Olajuwon. Oh, it's an N, you're saying? It's an N. Yeah, I've been saying Hakeem. Hakeem. Like H-A-K-E-E-M. That's how I've been pronouncing it. Hakeem Phoenix.
Starting point is 01:24:04 That's great. Well, I'm reading it, So I know how it's spelled Yeah yeah But you're right I was I don't know Whenever they get the J's And the O's here
Starting point is 01:24:11 They start spelling it Yeah I mean it's a tough name For sure Joe Aquin Phoenix Joe Akewin It's like one of the Fucking Joe Aquin Phoenix
Starting point is 01:24:21 Key and Peele names Joe Akewin Phoenix California University Of Nebraska Exactly Yeah Joaquin Phoenix. Keon Peel's name. Joaquin Phoenix. California University of Nebraska. Exactly. He was going to be in this movie. This is so fucking funny. He was going to be in this gay film. He likes doing wacky roles, right?
Starting point is 01:24:39 Yeah, he's an actor. He's an actor, but he's in the Jim Carrey camp where it starts to be like the wackier the better, right? Absolutely probably kills him that he hasn't got to play a full-on retard at any point like this guy's this guy wants to be The wacky dude. I don't know the extent to which Napoleon was him saying I gotta be wacky or was them being wacky And then he took the role He wants to play a wacky, you know, he wants to show his range He's decided that he's going
Starting point is 01:25:05 to do the gay porn basically yeah the gayest and he made a graphic he made him make it gayer allegedly well that's what the director like apparently he's like this is not gay enough let's make this super gay this is what the director is saying the director is like no he wanted it to be gay yeah because he's like i'm not gonna get a walkie and phoenix if i make this into like just a gay porn film so i was like he probably was trying to be like it'll be like a little gay it'll be a little gay apparently according to the director which we don't know if true or not true allegedly hakeem phoenix hakeem hakeem the dream phoenix allegedly hakeem the dream was demanding more gay sex scenes yeah really gay i, if I had a friend,
Starting point is 01:25:45 like if you were acting in a movie and then there was like a gay thing and you had all these gay kissing scenes and I talked to the guy directing the film and you go, Danny keeps fucking demanding that we fucking do more gay sex scenes. Yeah, you'd be like,
Starting point is 01:25:56 all right, well, this is like a big budget Hollywood movie. Like you'll probably give me a pass. I'll probably get like ripped. But then you find out, you go, I was demanding it be gayer. No, that's crazy. You're just in the table read they're like and then uh Danny's character gives him a kiss on the cheek and you go up doesn't really seem like my character was just kissed on the cheek I kind of feel like my character would suck him off yeah I kind of
Starting point is 01:26:19 feel like he'd get fingered like a bowling ball is that possible i just i've been really spending time with this character and i feel like the character would go skiing with both of them yeah i'm just i'm feeling like my character would be cupping his balls getting tea bags you know this is what they're saying. Yeah. Hakeem the Dream declined to answer questions about it at the Venice Film Festival because people are asking, like, why'd you leave the gay sex scene?
Starting point is 01:26:50 And he goes, a source from Variety says, Phoenix got cold feet while Deadline reported Phoenix had stormed off the set weeks before. So we don't know if it was too gay
Starting point is 01:26:59 or not gay enough. I mean, it's obviously, to me, it's a little bit funny thinking that, you know, he agreed to be in this gay sex film. a little bit funny thinking that you know he agreed to be in this gay sex film yeah he got the you know got the sides he starts showing up he's doing the table reads and he was like you know you're you know you're on the couch the nine guys come in just fucking take their turns on you i oh i'll tell you i actually i i was able to access some of
Starting point is 01:27:20 the sides okay so this is the movie that he turned down interior day hakeem's just getting pounded he's loving it sheer pleasure on his face this isn't his first time nine men every hole in his body filled next scene exterior night a second pounding he's gonna be walking so this is i actually Interior asshole day. Interior. Next day. Minivan. He's walking funny. Loving it.
Starting point is 01:27:55 The sheer joy on his face. Covered and come. Come everywhere. So I think it's possible that he was just like, he got the sides and he was just like Bukkake after Bukkake. And he was like, I can't be. Yeah, this is the equivalent of your boys being like, let's go bungee jumping. And you're like, that's for pussies. Let's fucking jump out of a plane. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:28:13 He was just like. You get up there and you go, I don't know. I don't know which is funnier. I don't know if it's funnier if he got cold feet because he was too gay. Or it's funnier where the director. I'm curious if his management is like, yo, I know what you're trying to do here, but this is going to ruin your fucking career. You're the Joker, man.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I don't know what you're thinking, making this so gay, but this is not going to look good. You're going to give him a hand job. More. You give him a blow job. More. Nine guy blow job.
Starting point is 01:28:39 More. And his manager is just like, dude, I don't know. It's like, there's going to be no Joker 3 at this pace. Yeah, if you're demanding to make a gay porno starring you. Yeah, you manager's just like, dude, I don't know. There's going to be no Joker 3 at this pace. Yeah, if you're demanding to make a gay porno starring you. Yeah, you're like, you're... What are you trying to prove here?
Starting point is 01:28:51 Yeah, it's not the money's not even that good. Cuck dripping down his cleft palate. It is crazy, too. Because a lot of times you hear these stories about movies. Like Kevin Spacey was talking about... Not usual, so seven or whatever were they like the guy who was supposed to be his character got fired like on like day two of actual product like filming wow and then he got called in and they're like you have to come and do this part
Starting point is 01:29:17 but he was never supposed to do the part like he wasn't supposed to be the guy in seven the bad guy or whatever like they fired the guy like two days in because the director's like this guy blows not good or whatever so but like they still like these productions cost millions of dollars they still do them they just recast this is like they're like oh we're not recasting it's just over do you think that's what it was the director was watching him and he was like you're doing too much and they were sort of butting heads and he's like he's got he's know, just full on. Yeah. None of the actors are really comfortable doing.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Oh, come on, man. He just walks out. He's just like every morning just takes like 10 blue shoes and just walks out with just like a boner in his pants. We were my scene to go, dude, you're not doing the whole movie with just like a rock heart and track pants with just like a hard dick. He goes, this is my choice. This is the choices I'm making.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Yes, this is my character. My character would be walking around the whole movie with a hard dick. Yeah, he's like, you're silent on camera here you're just gonna walk across the room i hit the spot and he was like you're stop saying that hit the spot you're just that wasn't in the script he goes i'm ad-libbing i do i not have have any of you won an oscar yeah like reaches into his pants it's the oscar the whole time there we go there you go
Starting point is 01:30:50 oh sorry i just got some cum in my ear okay what i wasn't in the script he does the thing where he walks in the camera he just looks at the camera And then he goes What is that even You go I hit it I spent the last eight hours In the prop department Please stop pretending to Burp cum
Starting point is 01:31:19 Can you stop that please Burp cum Stop gargling Hakeem Hakeem the dream Can you stop that, please? Stop gargling, Hakeem. Hakeem the Dream, stop gargling, please. It's not in the script I wrote. Not in the script. So maybe that's potentially he was getting his creativity stifled with all the stuff he wanted to do. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:31:38 He just wouldn't let it be himself. Yeah. Hayes previously said the film contains explicit sexual content and it is supposed to be a challenge it's supposed to challenge the viewer with its strong sexual components so they're trying to make their Brokeback Mountain but it was probably going to have a side of In Your Face
Starting point is 01:31:54 like yeah that's right you're sexist you're homophobic for not loving this maybe women just don't want to watch this shit anymore because I wonder what the breakdown was for Brokeback Mountain like men to women audience i assume that's got to be more women and then you i've actually never seen it five million i swear i've never seen any also has a bridge to sell you guys
Starting point is 01:32:17 i fall in the percentage of men you know they did that study and um two men kissing is like for some men is the same as watching maggots it's not good for you no it's gross me out why just because it's like it's against nature it's also one of those things where you you know you're you're like a participator not a spectator dude broke back mountain you might as well put on an episode of fear factor for me it's the same thing, believe it or not, haven't seen it either. I haven't seen it, I swear. I mean, why would you? It's just like, okay, they're making this cowboy movie about a bunch of gay people.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Why would I watch that? I'd like to maintain the positive memory I have of Heath Ledger. If it happened right now, I'd probably watch it because of the podcast and stuff like that. But I think that, yeah, in the absence of making content about it, I don't see any reason why I would be watching a gay porno, essentially. Definitely my girl, she's like, we're going to watch Brokeback Mountain. I can be like, grab some girlfriends for that one. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Yeah. How am I supposed to eat popcorn while I'm gagging? Well, I think he thought this was going to be his Brokeback Mountain probably at first. But I still don't know. It's possibly that Aakeem wanted to do that or it is possible that he was on set and he thought it would be fun, but then the director was taking it too far. The director's like,
Starting point is 01:33:32 call him daddy. Yeah, call him fucking daddy. Yeah, tell him how you love it. Yeah, yeah. Tell him his dick's big. Did Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger make out in Brokeback Mountain? You ever seen Johnny? Johnny's lying. Whole experience was prompted by Hakeem
Starting point is 01:33:48 stating the actor had advocated for the explicit content of the film. So the director's going hard on like, this guy demanded it. He made it so gay that he made himself irreplaceable. Who's gonna do it? Yeah, that's true. They're just like,
Starting point is 01:34:02 well, why don't you get someone to replace him? You're like, I don't think you understand the changes he made. We tried to get Neil Patrick Harris. He said, way too gay. Can't rewrite the script. Hey, you know at this funeral where you're supposed to be wearing a suit? I just got wind that you talked in a wardrobe and you demanded assless chaps and a gimp mask. I just...
Starting point is 01:34:25 I don't really think it's... It's not really a proper funeral. Are we trying to make a gay movie or are we trying to make a gay movie? If I was out here trying to make Will and Grace, I wouldn't have hired you in the first place. Are we trying to make Will and Grace or a fucking gay movie?
Starting point is 01:34:40 No. Anyways, that's the funniest fucking thing. Oh. Revealed 100 phrases that destroy the male ego destroyed destroyed they're pretty good one that tracks say this when he tells you his star sign destroyed okay danny what what's your uh star sign sagittariusarius. Destroyed. Oh, I didn't do it right. And then it's hard being walking Phoenix. It's hard not being walking Phoenix. Walking Phoenix would have been like Sagittarius. Ask me again.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Sagittarius. That tracks. Not used to destroy. Ouch. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid. Idiot. Fucking idiot. That tracks. That's very passive aggressive. I like the one where you text someone, you go, I'm here.
Starting point is 01:35:33 And then late at night, you text them, I'm here. This is one of them. And then you turn off your phone for three days. Destroy. And then you message them, you go, oops, that was for someone else. That definitely wouldn't destroy my ego. That would just make me think, oh, this bitch is crazy. Yeah, psycho.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Yeah, okay. I go, okay. I think that, again, they're all planning on every guy being a simp. Yeah. Because in the absence of the guy being a simp, all you did was get demoted. And it's written by a gay guy. It's like if there's any chance for potentially you being in a relationship, you just bought three more months of fucking limbo for yourself.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Yeah, and it's written by a gay guy. So this is like, maybe this of fucking limbo for yourself yeah and it's written by a gay guy so this is like maybe this works better in gays oh this is written by a gay guy yeah the only one that i actually thought was kind of funny was uh going to dudes and in sports jerseys and being like i love your cosplay i guess what's the cosplay if you actually you're saying cosplaying as a football team because you like the team yeah you wear this jersey and then it's like, you're not on the team. Oh, so you're right. They do make a little more sense when you say them in a gay accent. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Thought your voice would be deeper. Destroyed. Need to escape a disastrous hinge date. This one is gold. I mean, it seems like it would be harder. I guess it makes way more sense to me now that it's a sassy gay guy being like, I thought your voice would be deeper. Yeah, but this is a sassy gay guy being like, I thought your voice would be deeper. Yeah, but this is a sassy gay guy writing this for women to use.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Okay. Yeah. But if you show up on a date and you go, I thought your voice would be deeper, and you go, and then you're like, well, that'll make them leave. And they're like, well, what if they don't leave? You're like, oh, I got to do more stuff. Be an asshole until they leave. Tell me how much this one hurts.
Starting point is 01:37:02 How is any of this better? If you're trying to leave a date, how is any of this better than being like, yeah, have a phone call. It's an emergency. Yeah, tell me how much this one would. How is any of this better? If you're trying to leave a date, how is any of this better than being like, yeah, have a phone call. It's an emergency. Yeah, tell me how much this one would hurt you. Do you like Lord of the Rings?
Starting point is 01:37:10 Yes. You'd make a good Frodo. Destroyed. Destroyed. You remind me of James Corden. Destroyed. This guy hates James Corden. How else?
Starting point is 01:37:20 I wouldn't know if that would destroy me, but I think if a girl, I mean, if the guy looks like James Corden, but if you're like, you remind me of James Corden, I'd be like, yeah, no, I don't. No, yeah, I don't know if that would destroy me But I think if a girl I mean if the guy looks like James Corden But if you remind me of James Corden I'd be like yeah no I don't I'm not anything like James Corden
Starting point is 01:37:30 It's sort of bad nagging Because if a girl said to me Tell me I remind you of James Corden Destroyed fuck Say it to me Say it to me You remind me of James Corden. Yeah, you too.
Starting point is 01:37:46 You remind me of Rita McNeil. Yeah, you too. Yeah. You remind me of Jar Jar Binks. You actually look like James Corden. We're both getting destroyed here. Yeah, we're both getting destroyed. Call out his hissy fit.
Starting point is 01:37:57 I guess that's a good way to piss them off more if someone's getting mad and you say you're throwing a hissy fit. Yeah, I guess if you never want to see this person again, you're in the middle of a date that you hate this guy. You go, yeah, okay. I like your blouse. It says, call the guy's shirt a blouse. Like the guy gets his food and there's just like a screw in it and he sends it back and you go,
Starting point is 01:38:15 it's a bit of a hissy fit you're having there. I didn't want to eat the screw. Yeah, exactly. There's a piece of glass in my food. It's a bit of a hissy fit. Bit of a hissy fit. But I guess it's one of those things Where if you're a girl
Starting point is 01:38:26 The gay guys It sort of maybe is a different thing Because their relationship is probably You're a fucking bitch You're a bitch Yeah of course Because if you're a girl And you just like show up
Starting point is 01:38:35 And you're be bitchy And the guy's like okay Well maybe I'll still try to smash you And then never talk to you Yeah It's like this girl's unbearable Oh challenge accepted I think it always forgets that part
Starting point is 01:38:43 Where it's like A guy will stay for the whole time and still have sex with you. Yeah, if he thinks he has a chance to just make it happen, he will. But on the last topic of gay news, Grindr has a new thing where they're doing a grunt instead of the Grindr sound. I don't know what the original sound is. There's more your domain. I watched the video where it was for eurovision and they took someone's phone to do like a demo of the
Starting point is 01:39:09 eurovision app and then the noise started happening yeah but it's so funny because i don't know the noise i swear and uh i don't know the noise and then everybody was around them was like laughing and people think it was like a marketing stunt or something like grinder grinder needs marketing stunts yo yo get your dick sucked by a stranger in 10 minutes that's the whole ad for grinder if you're gay yeah if you're gay get your dick sucked in 10 minutes it's like i'm sure there's all that's like uber for getting your dick sucked yeah i'm sure that a lot of dudes that are uh there's not a lot of dudes that are gay that don't know about grinder yeah i think that's pretty well no but it's just funny the extent of having like a gay family member in your family dinner and you just hear his phone go yeah are you watching tennis guy
Starting point is 01:39:54 in a congress meeting oh sorry about that yeah ted cruz is that your phone ted yeah it was funny though so uh because I thought this was part of it. So in the article about the Grindr thing, there's a new better Grindr. They go, people are not going to stop using Grindr. There's this thing called Better in Person. And this is for gays or normal? No, this is for everybody. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Right? But they were talking about how they use this stunt to promote it. Basically, the way the app works is you match with people, and there's like ai and stuff but it forces you to like have short conversations but just like actually go on a date like aka better in person but then their whole strategy or marketing strategy was uh they had like planes with the you know with the sign on them or whatever they like doing saying report every fuck boy you know and so like part of the app is like you you can report people as fuck boys what is that if they don't call you back you report basically like if someone like fucked you and then was like lied to you they go oh i want to be in like a long-term relationship
Starting point is 01:40:53 fuck you and never call you back then you can report them as a fuck boy and if you get reported three times as a fuck boy then your um your profile has like a fuck boy sticker on it and then the only it says this is obviously it's but it's funny because you're like and you're your profile has like a fuckboy sticker on it. And then the only... Well, obviously it's... But it's funny because you're like, and you're like, so can you report women as whores? No, you can report them as fuckboys.
Starting point is 01:41:14 So imagine... Women are also fuckboys. I'm a woman having a fuckboy thing? And you go, sick. Great. That's awesome. Yeah, three strikes and they get a warning, fuckboy. I guess that'd be a good thing for a girl
Starting point is 01:41:24 if you saw she has the fuckboy thing. And's the thing you're just trying to smash yeah exactly it's great right and then uh if you get three strikes you get a warning fuck boy banner on their profile and to remove it you have they must send an apology video from their mom to i'm sorry at better in person dot so it's for girls by girls yeah i mean i guess the idea is you use this app twice and then you end it yeah yeah i guess that's stupid okay we got a bunch of other shit on the patreon.com slash the boys cast every week you know what it is bonus episode every week and actually we're uh i think we have another couple lined up where we're doing extra episodes on the main thing we have a divorce lawyer coming in next week.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Yeah, we do. The top divorce lawyer. That was my wife's recommendation. So, yeah, we'll ask people on the Patreon some questions, if they have any questions for him, too. It was what? It was the wife's recommendation. Really?
Starting point is 01:42:15 Yeah, she was like, get this guy on the pod. Interesting. Yeah, she loves him. I have been seeing him pop off. I have been seeing him pop off. And his office is right near our studio. Right by her, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Okay. See everyone next week. Peace.

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