The Boyscast with Ryan Long - The Dog World is Sexist & Girl Goes on 100 Dates w/ Justin Silver

Episode Date: September 4, 2020

New Solo Episode at patreon.com/theboyscast  Justin Silver is a Comedian and World Famous Dog Trainer who joins me to discuss articles calling out the world of dogs. Then we talk about a girl who wen...t on 100 Dates to write an article on what men do wrong/sexist in dates, girls like Justin and he has better ideas for you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 And you can tell our friends, and they can have my things when we're dead. But we gonna live forever, but we gonna live forever. And you can tell our friends. Welcome to The Boys cast with Ryan Long. First podcast exclusively for The Boys. Boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys, boys. This episode, I have a conversation with my man Justin Silver, because me and him are going to be coming to the Comedy Connection in Rhode Island together
Starting point is 00:00:27 So I decided we would talk about a bunch of stuff He is a successful comedian He's had his own TV show on CBS He's a very famous dog trainer And he's a well-known comedian around the New York scene And toured the world and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I am Justin Silver on Instagram and Twitter and everything like that. Now, and we're going to go through this article as the authority on dogs, women and big dogs, everyday target for sexism,
Starting point is 00:00:58 as well as some of the problematic areas in the championship dog area as proposed by Huffington Post, as well as this woman that went on this experiment where she was telling a guy, she went on a date with a hundred guys and has all these problems with everything that guys do in the world on dates. And we're going to go through all that leading up to our show. So I know that's just one show, but we're doing it together and it'd be cool to sell it out so that's why i thought it would be good for me and him to talk about that stuff as well i have put a solo episode on the patreon with some cool inside scoop about the last trump video and the
Starting point is 00:01:39 place we did it at and went through the article about that I mentioned last time I went through all the stuff about you know they need more disabled mannequins and the the talk about how government's telling businesses what to do and a lot of other insights scoop at patreon.com slash the boys cast and that's up now the boys cast thank you for supporting and this is Justin Silver and so Justin Like I already mentioned This probably before But Justin's like a
Starting point is 00:02:08 Super funny comedian But also this like Professional dog trainer You had this Your own show And you do all these Private lessons And the whole thing
Starting point is 00:02:14 And you're probably One of the best guys At ignoring like woke shit Like remember when we were at We were at your friend's house And literally It was the day of the riots And I was like
Starting point is 00:02:24 Dude we gotta go to the riots Like and Christina was there And she was like She day of the riots and i was like dude we gotta go to the riots like and christina was there and she was like she was like for real so she was like i know we have to support and i was like i meant i was gonna go to party and then i was like justin let's go freaking party at the riots tomorrow and you're like dude i want to make pancakes tomorrow i don't here's the thing is like i i support i like support the protesters i get all that but it's like and this is like I could be at fault for this. But like because I do so many things in my life – and I'm being sincere with you. Because I do so many things in my life that are like giving back to the community in ways.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Like I run a charity. I do all this stuff with dogs. And then I'm like – I don't know what podcast you think this is, but people are like, yo, pussy. I get that. But like, because I, I can't sit there and watch the news and be so affected by things that at the end of the day, I'm like, how much control
Starting point is 00:03:11 am I going to have over this? And what's the, like, how do the scales weigh in terms of how much that's going to fucking tax me? Just in terms of anxiety about worrying about things. So it's like the way I get information
Starting point is 00:03:21 is when people go, can you believe that happened? I go, oh, what happened? And then you tell me something and then I know. That's it. It is. That's how most people live their life. It's like you care about your own thing.
Starting point is 00:03:32 And everyone's like, you should care about this. Dude, I'm fucking not 20 years old and I'm not an activist and I'm not going to live my life based on whatever new movement you think I should be out there holding a flag for today. But I have the things that are super important to me like when it's like animal rights things like that like i'm like i'm like on the fourth i'm like on the forefront of i wouldn't say pushing agendas but like educating people when it comes like those are the things that act those are things that matter to me does it do do the other social things matter to me yes but those are not the things that are on the
Starting point is 00:04:01 forefront of my agenda they're just not and so like it's okay to say that and be like well then you're racist like well i'm actually not racist but that's just are on the forefront of my agenda. They're just not. And so like, it's okay to say that and be like, well, then you're raised like, well, I'm actually not racist, but that's just not on the forefront of my agenda. Yeah. Sorry. I'm not like, you don't just like jump.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And I say how high every change my entire identity for every two seconds, like whatever you think's in vogue right now. Yeah. I couldn't, I couldn't think black lives matter more. I couldn't think all lives matter more. Like I don't, that's never even been questionable in my mind.
Starting point is 00:04:24 So it's like, yeah, I don't have to sit there and mark. I like, I'm not having that argument. Yeah. But it was funny. And so, but there is this thing with like all the woke stuff, like it just infiltrates every part of your life. Cause there is a lot of people that I know that work at companies and whatever, and they go, I'll just kind of like ignore whatever. And you're like, there's a point where you're like, you can't like, if you're a sports player right now, you can't just ignore it. If you work at any sort of station, like you're like, there's a point where you're like, you can't. Like, if you're a sports player right now, you can't just ignore it if you work at any sort of station. Like, you can't. There is a point where, and even with you, with the dog stuff, like, you have people messaging you.
Starting point is 00:04:52 So, Justin posted, like, a video. Can I walk it through? Yeah, explain it. Okay. So, I know, like, Ryan will tell you this. Like, I've been living in New York for my entire life. So, it's like when you're born and raised here, you kind of like walk between the raindrops here. I know everybody in every neighborhood of every ethnicity.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Like I'm like, dude. Dude, Justin walks his dog through the area and 19 gay dudes are like, Justin, you made the night last night at the BF. But it's like, listen, I swear to God, I have like a guy who could like, I got to have a guy who like fix your ceiling, nude your dog and kill somebody if you wanted to.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And it's all the same guy. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I work in all these different neighborhoods with everybody from like really, really privileged celebrities, like up in, you know, Upper East Side mansions to like working,
Starting point is 00:05:35 working in like underprivileged schools to educate kids on like, you know, animals and how to train. Just selling drugs after hours. Exactly. So I'm, I'm in Bushwick. This is so funny. I'm in bushwick and i was like hey i'm i was just explaining how to do something i'm like alive with a client that
Starting point is 00:05:51 i was with right she's without andrew schultz's dog no not andrew schultz's dog she's she's spanish we're friends right so i go and there's like all the there's all this latin music playing the background and i go and you get to listen to this dope ass latin music in the background while we train and then these guys are screaming at each other across the street and this guy sounds like and I go right complete and this guy goes hey I was so on board with your teachings until all your racist slander I was like wait a second that's what you got out of this video like I did this whole tutorial and I do something and then he goes you know you're trying it was this long message you're trying to grow a following I he goes, you know, you're trying. It was just a long message.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You're trying to grow a following. I don't know how you think you're going to accomplish that with your with your toxic responses. And I was just laughing as I'm like, no, toxic would be is if I did what I did on my comedy page where it's like I screen cap what you just wrote, then tag you in it. And then I say, hey, everybody, go for it. And I just let everybody like like you're out of your mind dude yeah dude i mean it was a little much when you had the dog video where you said and also take your dog and if you're chinese uh you will say ching chong ching chong i thought that was a lot yes that was a lot but there was what was so there's this article
Starting point is 00:07:00 and this is this is a huffpo there's two HuffPo articles and they go, women and big dogs everyday target for sexism. So that's the gist of the article. And we had- I didn't get that. Okay, so I'm going to go through the whole thing, but the gist is that
Starting point is 00:07:15 she's saying that when she was walking her dog because she has a big dog, people are like, you shouldn't have that because you're a small little woman. So she's getting sexism because she has this huge dog and everyone thinks she shouldn't handle it.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Which just kind of reminds me of what happened to you at the stand or the comedy club. And this lady comes up to Justin and she goes, oh, I really like I follow you. I like your videos, but you're too rough with the dogs. No, no, no, no, no. That's not what she said. What'd she say? She goes, you're so aggressive with them. And I'm like, first of all, did the last thing you could ever describe me as
Starting point is 00:07:48 is either rough or great? I go, what do you mean? Because you have a big pit bull. The way you handle them and play with them. I go, wait. I go, what are you talking about? She goes, well, there's just such big dogs. I go, did you watch the ones with all the little dogs I have?
Starting point is 00:07:59 Because I have more little ones. She goes, oh, no, I just see the big ones. I'm like, yeah, well, scroll down, idiot. Like, no. I play see the big ones. I'm like, yeah, well, scroll down, idiot. Like, no. I play big with big dogs small. What are you? It's just like, yeah. And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's like it's different because there was a point where, you know, most of the criticisms are like, oh, this guy's vulgar or whatever. But right now it's different because they're like, oh, this guy's racist. And you're like, if they tweeted Justin Silver's racist, that would catch on and become like an issue so it's not just these like little things but yeah i don't care i i honestly like all anyone have to do is hang out with me or ask me let me tell you something the squawking of every little insecure idiot who has a twitter handle wagging the dog of society big corporations ho Hollywood, all this stuff is so
Starting point is 00:08:46 goddamn absurd. Like we're not, Ryan, I'm telling you, we were watching, I was on some podcast and we were watching this video where it was where Volkswagen apologized for their commercial that they did, that racist commercial, which wasn't, and you could so see, you could so see the intent, I'm going to tell you, you could so see the intentions of what this commercial was, how it was misinterpreted, and how Volkswagen as a corporation just decided to capitulate themselves and just bend because they were like, oh, somebody said something.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Here's what happened. You have this cute Volkswagen car. It's like a yellow car. And then you have somebody peeping in the windows of the car like, oh, that car looks awesome, dressed in really fine clothing, right? And then you know when you do that thing where you're like i'm crushing your head i'm crushed like you wink one finger so your hands look like bigger like they're crushing someone's head so then you see these fingers like pick the person up and move them
Starting point is 00:09:35 away from the car like nope not yours it's mine like everybody wants one right now in today's day and age where we shouldn't see any color would it matter what color the person was peeping into the car and what color the hands were? It shouldn't. Was it because they were Asian and the car was yellow and that was the problem? It wasn't that. Good one.
Starting point is 00:09:52 The guy peeping into the windows were black. The fingers grabbing it were white. And then Volkswagen was like, we're so outraged at our marketing department for creating such a racist comment. It's like, that's not what you were doing. You casted somebody. The black guy got the bigger role, which is actually the role that he auditioned for because
Starting point is 00:10:08 he's like yeah i'd rather be the guy i'd rather be the guy noticeable and then the hands and if we're all like well you know we don't no one sees any color it's everything it's like the the the over emphasis of trying to make everything fair is it's just reversed racism it's like what's the difference what color the hands were what color the so they should both be black or both be white so like we got to just you got a safe ending in every single way how about it's all just people you know when you when you watch god when you watch uh when you watch cartoons or when you watch what's what's an example of like something for kids when you watch like the muppets or whatever it was like everything you're not like oh no the all the blue people are over here. It's come on, man.
Starting point is 00:10:46 But to watch like corporations, like the Crystalia thing, it was like I was listening to Joe and Corinne's podcast, really good friends of ours, Without a Country, and they dug into what actually happened when they started like doing a little bit of investigation. They're like, okay, so what are these allegations? What actually happened? What's provable?
Starting point is 00:11:03 And it turned out that like whether he's a creep or not creep, that remains to be seen. Who knows? Who cares? But it's like the whole idea that, well, the accusation is the proof, and then if you say, well, that's actually not, well's like, no, proof is proof. Anybody can accuse anybody of everything. And for corporations like Netflix and contracts and his agents to drop him, it's like, I'd be suing them for libel. I'd be like, when proof comes out against me that I actually did something wrong that is a illegal, when any of these women step forward, anything happened, I'm not saying that, I don't know if he's a creep or he's not a creep. I'm not a creep to women. So I'm like, I don't identify with that behavior to begin with. But the point is, it's I'm still like, well, what actually happened here? What's proven? And then like, we look, they looked into it a little bit. You're like, well, who's writing this article? Where did they go to school? What's their agenda? Oh, it's like a pop culture gossipist, like looking for something to preach a narrative
Starting point is 00:12:00 that happens to be her narrative. And he happens to be the one that sort of that's, that's, that's the target you want to throw on the dartboard for the day. It's like, well, that's not journalism. Yeah, especially after it happens like the 90th time. You're like, how many times are people gonna fall for this before you go, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait a second. But here's what I love about it. I'm like, the more it overplays its hand,
Starting point is 00:12:19 it's listen, listen, I'm so, hashtag me too, fantastic. But then when you start to see, when it's like the Aziz and sorry story about some girl just describing a bad date, she's like, so I kept blowing them. And then it kept, and then the day kept getting worse. Like that's not an assault. Like you just like, you, that's just a, you're describing a bad date. And then all these women who are like, Hey, you're busy squawking while we actually have something that's valuable worth listening to you're diluting it. And so the more all these like idiots over,
Starting point is 00:12:45 like the more they overplay their hand, I think the more the little bit of chatter just sort of goes away and people are actually like, wait a second. Now we actually go back to where we were before. We're like, no, you need actual proof and you need like your statement needs to hold weight here. Yeah, it goes full circle.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And on the topic of the like the same thing with the, oh, why can't everyone just be, we need to make sure the black guy has the same thing with the oh why can't everyone just be uh we need to make sure the black guy has the right thing with the white guy the power dynamic it's like you also can't have both where you go okay we're gonna tell you like how many of each race you need in your thing but then we're also gonna tell you how you can treat each race because like that's why it's in my comedy it's like there's all these videos where they're like okay you need this certain amount of things but it's like yeah but my videos are making fun of all the people in the videos so if i have to put trans people in the videos i have to also make fun of trans people
Starting point is 00:13:27 so i'm not putting trans people my video where like they're the hero every time because that's not the type of comedy videos i make but they go i don't give a shit well then change what you do because we don't respect or give a shit what you're making we just like here's the rules that's like what the government does they go oh um you know we need to put like wheelchair ramps and everywhere. And that's the rule. And then some like business that's like a bodega is like, hey, listen, like I can't afford that. That'll shut me down. It's like, well, then get shut down then.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We don't give a crap. Like so they don't care. Right. Yeah. The funny thing about your videos is like people like they don't they don't. It's like you understand that like sarcasm and irony is the prerequisite to even pressing play here. Right. You understand that like the whole and irony is the prerequisite to even pressing play here right you understand
Starting point is 00:14:05 that like the whole point of comment and this is like it's insane to me that this even has to be explained the whole point of comedy is to like caricaturize all these different social elements to make fun of it to show the absurdity of it all and if in the process of doing that you have to say the words that people are saying well you can't just be like oh well he said the word so now we can't you're missing the whole fucking point. Yeah, skip that one, though. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, because it's going to be bad for the dude.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I got to tell you, man, being like the age I am, it's so it's like it's 85. It's what? 85. Being 85. It's such a relief that like my generation, they don't so much think this way. And I'm like, I talk to so many people who are younger and like, you know, like millennials and even younger than that. And they're like behind closed doors are like, yeah, to so many people who are younger and like, you know, like millennials and even younger than that. And they're like behind closed doors are like, yeah, like none of us actually really think this way or feel this way.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And it's like, we just have to do that to keep up, you know, to keep up with the Joneses of our friends group because they think that's the culture, too. Like I like you and I hang out with a lot of people who in their 20s, part of that culture. And it's like behind closed doors. It's like, no, I know you really don't believe this or think this way like i know i know that for a fact yeah you're i haven't just thought of it they just gave me my opinion and i'm saying it and you're like we'll break it down from first principles and they're like yeah yeah and then you sit there and you and you could just take everything apart and then you have those conversations like yeah well you know i say these words when i'm alone with my friends and blah blah like we don't really think this way but it's like you're supposed to i'm like i know that yeah i know that so don't get upset when i'm like you know when i'm just like
Starting point is 00:15:27 like i don't feel the need to tiptoe around my principles because it's like i kind of live my principles and like i don't hold real racist values in any way i don't have racist principles so i don't have to sit there and like tiptoe around the way i say everything to make your uh over exaggerated apologetic way of speaking more comfortable. I just don't have to do that. Cause I don't do that in the fucking first place. Yeah, dude,
Starting point is 00:15:49 it's you're changing the whole thing for like the one pussy in the group. And you're like, Hey, how about you're just not in the group anymore. Then if like, if yeah, if you come around and you're like hanging out with a bunch of people and they're all,
Starting point is 00:15:59 everything they says is offending you. It's like, maybe that's not your group of friends. Maybe you need a fucking bunch of little pussies. That's your group of friends where you all kind of pretend to be nice to each other because you're not actually really friends and you don't actually have any real opinions and like and like we're like companies like that why don't they be like yeah we were trying to be all inclusive and put different like what's the difference what color
Starting point is 00:16:17 the oil i want to do next video we'll make this guy black this guy white happy like that's what they should have said because you know that's the truth. You know they weren't being like, hey, we try to sell cars to everybody in the world. Hey, but let's get our little agenda to make the, come on, man. Yeah, but there's sort of complicitness. That's why it's like, it's hard to go back and like look at the car companies a lot of times
Starting point is 00:16:39 and be, it depends on the ones. Like there's some companies that don't get involved, but there's other companies where you look back and you're like, yeah, you were a part of this culture to like to begin with. So now it's like biting you in the ones. Like there's some companies that don't get involved, but there's other companies where you look back and you're like, yeah, you were a part of this culture to like, to begin with. So now it's like biting you in the ass. Like it's funny. And that's a thing, right? Like, yeah, I'm Jewish. Ask me what type of car everybody in my family drives.
Starting point is 00:16:55 A bag of money with wheels. Oh no, I was going to say a Nazi tank, but no, they all drive. A train I was going to say. Bavarian motor company. They all drive. They all drive German made cars. Like, yeah, man. Yeah. Here's another interesting thing.
Starting point is 00:17:11 And this is I was talking to me about this. Like, the interesting thing is that there's certain cultures that like, even though they've been victimized, don't adopt victim mentality. And they're kind of like, yeah, we don't really care what you think about saying we think or say about us we're too busy in our own lane focusing who are they there's like there's cultures that just do that and they're just like they're too busy like getting shit done to like worry about like the chat they are you look at like israel and shit like that and you're just like yeah we're just too big like we're the smallest country the biggest badass is you think yeah but you think that there's no Jewish people. Like if you take like,
Starting point is 00:17:46 because a lot of especially like Jewish people in New York are just sort of like, they have the same like, you know, 20 year old white person mentality of like, you know, we're a victim. And there's definitely as much of Jewish people in that. You're talking about like Israeli warriors. That's like a different type of,
Starting point is 00:18:01 all those different type of human than your New York like asthma Jew. Yeah, that's probably true. But I mean, maybe it's just a different type of human than your New York like asthma Jew. Yeah, that's probably true. But I mean, maybe it's just a circle of people I hang out with that just aren't victim-y. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I don't see you surrounding yourself. Well, that's how you get this article. Women and big dogs, everyday target for sexism with the dog expert.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Bruce wasn't. Wait, with who? Who wrote this? No, no. This is like a chick. So she has a she's she has a dog and she has a gripe enough to that she has to write an article for it and here's what i do when you when you explain this article on the point of view it's coming i will give you a
Starting point is 00:18:34 a literal i will give you a legitimate expert opinion you can tell by the way people speak what's going on in their situation i solve people's problems by the way they talk on the phone to me when they're hiring me for sessions. I go, I know exactly what this issue, you could tell by their vernacular. So I will give you this from like a total objective opinion is if I'm reading this about someone whose dog I had to fix, go. Okay. So this is what she says. Bruce is the dog's name. Bruce wasn't difficult down to the fact that he's a big dog with a puppy personality. No, I was failing him because I have a vagina. That's what people are saying.
Starting point is 00:19:07 It means that I'm ill-equipped to train anything taller than my ankles. So this is a, I'm picturing her walking through the park with the leash of a dog pulling her. This is a defensive person to begin with. Oh, of course. She goes, I'm no stranger to everyday sexism, but it still manages to creep up on me when I don't expect it. Before I added a boisterous puppy to my home a little over a month ago,
Starting point is 00:19:27 I had no idea the sexism I would encounter every time I left the house. However, there was one thing that I wasn't prepared for. The blatant sexism that I would face as a small woman with a big dog. And there's one more sentence. First up came the clique of older women with their adorable aging lap dogs. And when they had once chatted to me happily and made cooing, and to me and made cooing noises at my pup,
Starting point is 00:19:52 now they wouldn't even crack a smile. Has that been your experience with women carrying? I mean, that's- Like a mixed race couple in 1840. They see a woman, they see a woman with a big dog and they're like, don't make eye contact with her. He's not for you.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Just a bunch of women. Hey, guys, how's it going? You're like, yeah, we don't sort of talk to you anymore. I mean, it's not even like angering as much as laughable. Yeah, I love the idea. Because you're like, first of all, older women're like you're like first of all older women like she was just saying these older women with their aging small dogs like yeah anybody like people with small aging dogs are usually like oh look there's a big dog they get nervous no matter who's
Starting point is 00:20:37 holding the other end of the leash there's the first aspect here's the second one all the people most of the people i work with in the shelters, and we work with, like, aggressive, aggressive dogs that are, like, badasses. You see the ones on my page. Like, I have that 150-pound pit bull. All the women who work at those shelters, they're like little Italian chicks from Staten Island, and they handle those dogs fine. And the other thing is, like, big boys are his energy.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It's like if people see a person, whether it doesn't matter what size they are, with a dog that's like bountiful and jumping, they're like, here's an indicator that maybe they don't have the most control over their dog. So it's like would size and strength play a part of that? Kind of, but not really because it's like I'm not the biggest person and I handle dogs that are way more than me. So it's like I don't, none of that, you could,
Starting point is 00:21:26 it's just someone's like agenda is like, Hey, let me just, let me, it's so seeped into the fabric of my being. Let me just have it stain every aspect of my universe. And it's that thing with girls where they're like, and anyone that has this like victim mentality, anyone that doesn't like you, anyone that's mean to you, anyone that's anything to you, you're like, it's because I'm a woman. It's like maybe you're walking around with your dog and those ladies hate you because you're the type of idiot
Starting point is 00:21:50 that writes articles like this. And they had a bad conversation with you last time and then you're like, oh, because I have a dog, a big dog. I should go up to girls with a big dog and be like, oh, you brought your boyfriend's dog out tonight? That's nice of you to walk your boyfriend's dog. That's very nice of you. Take your boyfriend's dog out when he's at work.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I guess you have the day off, I would assume. I mean, when will dinner be ready? You're taking the dog out before dinner. Dude, are you going to get him back in time to make dinner and clean everything? Dude, the defensiveness is bananas, dude. Yeah, you're pretty good at calling that out with girls like in real life, where you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is what's happening.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You're being defensive. You're being like this. But I don't even do it in a shitty way because I'm sort of like, I feel like it's such a burden to constantly have your guard up. So I was like, listen, here's a perfect example, right? startup. So I was like, I was, listen, here's a, here's a perfect example, right? I went on this date with somebody and we were having like a talk about, we were, you and I talk about this all the time. We were talking like masculine, feminine energy. And they were making like, they were making a point about something. And you could see like a lot of times what people do is
Starting point is 00:22:59 when they don't really have their thoughts and their feelings in line with something, they pick the headline that's closest to how they wish they felt in sort of an idealistic way. And then they start gluing to that. They start gluing to that headline and trying to back that up. Right. And I could tell like there was like a lot of effort and she wasn't really like thinking this way. And then she started walking really fast and walking ahead of me.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And it was almost like I took her by the hand. I go and in such a nice way, I was like, hang on a second. I was like, come here for a second. And I just sort of like pulled her by. I was like, you don't have to do that here, by the way. And she just fucking exhaled. And she was like, dude, I so appreciate you saying that earlier. Cause I'm just so used to guys like, you know, counterpointing with it.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Like she came into this thing defensive. And I was like, number one, like you don't have to like prove this point to me in chest beat. Number two, you don't have to like walk ahead of me. Like you could see like, there's usually like a biological component to what people are thinking or feeling yeah you and i talk real big punching a wall yeah but you and i talk real big we talk with our hands and we're ant up we get i mean you don't ever get any louder than you always are i don't i think that there was three beers that night but i'm
Starting point is 00:24:01 saying like i was like you you could just see it i'm like you could just like you could be at ease here like there's such a fucking defensiveness with like the sexes and it goes both ways it totally goes both ways like i have so many theories on why this shit is but it's so it's like when when if you've been like if if you're not defensive in the first place treat women well respect like both it's like you're just never a part of these arguments and then when people start presenting them to you you're like you can mitigate them so easily by just like i sometimes i just feel like i almost feel like the like like the basketball coach whose players are getting into a fight instead of yelling goes what come here boys can you both come over here everybody settle down let's go back to what we're doing and they're like okay i get it like you just don't have to
Starting point is 00:24:40 be part of the fucking fray yeah and especially like if you get involved in like some new ideology and you're like involved in all this stuff it's like okay i'm fine with whatever if i chose to date some chick that's a part of that which you know maybe isn't the move but if you do and you go listen do what you want but like don't bring that to me like just you know because you're into like a new thing don't don't find your out your new thing that you read on the internet and then bring that shit to me and take it out on me like i'm not a part of that i don't and i also i don't play that game and if you want to yeah so you can kind of give it to him like that but she says that people say that someone like me wouldn't be able to manage him and that he would get frustrated without having a proper leader i just love that
Starting point is 00:25:19 it's uh maybe that but maybe maybe instead like maybe that's true in her case. Maybe she's not equipped to handle that dog, and it's got nothing to do with like – that's like her as an individual. Yeah. Dude, there's so many – when I go on training sessions, there's so many men where I'm like – they're like their voices are soft and all this. I go, you got to speak with some authority. You got to speak with some clarity specific.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You ever get like a real Brooklyn, like wet noodle. And he's like, excuse me. Yeah. I'm, I'm always, I'm like, I'm like, what do you do for a living? And they're like, I'm in finance. And I'm like, right. So when, if you're in finance and there's like a bottom line here and you know, you got to get shit done. Like you don't bring that energy to your job where they're going to be like, sorry, next, like, you know, businesses don't care, but't care but like they're just like no we have a bottom line and
Starting point is 00:26:07 it's math and you better be getting this fucking job done when at the end of the day i'm like yeah i don't care that like you know you have to speak with a certain vocal tone and and embody a certain form of i don't want to say dominance because it's not dominance but a certain form of like self-strength and self-efficacy to communicate this information. With a dog. You're not doing that. You're going to get walked all over. With a dog, with a person, with anybody.
Starting point is 00:26:30 But we're using dogs as an example. Dogs are barometers of their owner's dysfunctions, and you could tell exactly what the dog's problem is. But you could tell what the dog's problem is by you look at the owner. I could tell what the owner's problems are by looking at the dog. I'm like, oh, this person's obviously like not specific, doesn't know how to like give information properly is wishy-washy i'm like because you could because those behaviors don't they only do they can only exist in the framework that you give them right yeah so that's why you could take dogs out of shelters and they're like oh yeah this dog's got like food aggression and dog aggression with other dogs and then i bring
Starting point is 00:27:01 them in this house and i'm like yeah that's not an option here so then they're like oh i guess i have to figure something else out so you can always say they only act within the allowances you're giving them so you're like okay well where are they getting this information and so there it is it's from pre-pants boy on the corner over there who can't like fucking raise his voice come on man hey excuse me yeah they can't handle a leader just uh and also there's that element of uh when you say that people are like yelling, like people have been saying to you, oh, the dog doesn't have a proper leader. Like no one said that to you. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:34 No one said that. Yeah, no one said that to you. Those words didn't come out. But that's a – were poodles out of stock? Or it's just interesting to me that you have a man's dog and you're a small little girl i guess you got it on a discounters it's an adelaide terrier air airdale terrier you know what that is that's not a big dog that's a big dog to her an airdale that's what she says it's a
Starting point is 00:27:57 medium large size an airdale that's what she says like she's talking like it's like this huge great dane yeah buddy ryan you saw on that Instagram page, I have 150 pound pit bull, right? Massive. Massive. That's the biggest pit bull I've ever seen. Very aggressive dog. Not aggressive.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Not at all. Big. But strong as shit. Likes to hump me. The two women that brought him here from where they rescued him were like maybe five foot two. And the person I just got him, I just gave him to
Starting point is 00:28:25 this woman who lives around my corner because i'm like yeah she's like a badass chick who can like handle this dog and i'm like what the fuck is she talking what are you talking about listen here's the problem here's here's what this chick's upset about it's like you're just weak and happen to be a woman you're not not a woman, so you're weak. You're weak, but you happen to be a woman. Yeah. And then you're defensive about that. So stop blaming your gender on the fact that there's other problems with you.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Do you think that the worst type of person becomes a blogger? Or do you think there's some of when you become a blogger, you become the worst type of person? It's probably both.'s both right like once you start working at these places it infills yeah it fills your head with this like this is how you succeed by being this like piece of garbage ryan listen you could look at it for pot listen i'll here's the same exact here's the same exact um prototype for that like because you make videos that are about, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? Um, I would say culture, but if they're controversial things, so then you're looking for controversial things to make videos about, and then it's like, you get better at it.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Right. If I'm looking, if I'm, if I'm a comedian and I'm always looking for the absurdity in any situation, even in like horrible situations where it's not appropriate in the back of my mind, I'm writing a joke about it for later. You i'm saying if i'm shooting dog training videos right and i happen to be shooting like 10 a week it's like yeah i'm cut like as i'm walking around the street looking at situations like i'm looking at it with that like that lens is on she's got that if i have that lens on if i look across the street and i see a lady with the leash on her hand being dragged across the sidewalk. Just getting like, let go of the leash. Oh, cause I'm a woman. I can't hold the leash. Like he's about to drive you onto the freeway.
Starting point is 00:30:15 You can't hold the leash, but you're a woman. Yeah. That's, that's the thing. It's not, no, you're because you're a woman. It's like, no, here's what it is. It's you ever hear that phrase reductive. Oh, ad absurdum. No. It's when you reduce everything to point of absurdity to where it doesn't make sense. It's like someone going, I don't understand why people like basketball. It's just a bunch of guys bouncing a ball around. It's like, man, there's a little bit more than that.
Starting point is 00:30:34 You know what I mean? It's like you can reduce anything to the point of absurdity. Yeah, it's kind of like when you call out people's formula. And sometimes it does work. Like I said, famously is when family guy was like south park was like family guy's just this and then you watch it and it's all you can see but like sometimes you say oh all this guy does on scream on stage and then you go watch him and you're like yeah and it rules like you know what i mean yeah sometimes that is the case but it's like yeah it's it's like it's it's like it's like yeah it's like the baby out with the bathwater type of thing and she said
Starting point is 00:31:02 missing shit and i was told that i should have walked the other way around the park. So this guy, she went and she said, this guy said to her, I was walking in front of a man eating a sandwich on a park bench. And I was, and, and when my curious little furball excitedly looked over at the tuna,
Starting point is 00:31:18 he was shoveling into his mouth from two feet away. I was branded a stupid girl. So I doubt that. That's not what happened. Not what happened. And then she goes, that's not what happened. Here's what happened. Here's what happened. I was branded a stupid girl. So I doubt that's not what happened. Not what happened. And then she goes, that's not what happened. Here's what happened. Here's what happened. I she's downplaying the severity of this dog's reaction, right? Nobody in their right mind. If a curious little poodle of a curious Airedale puppy came up to you, right? And let's assume
Starting point is 00:31:41 this dog's like, let's, let's, let's, let's go on the biggest end of it and call it 70 pounds right same size as my dog right i have a pit bull who's got muscles coming out of muscles on his shoulders i might i have two female dogs he looks like tasmanian devil with when he's playing basketball that's what it looks like right he runs he goes up to everybody he sniffs it no one has ever no all no one has ever been like oh you can't control unless you honestly can't control that dog no one does that that's right so what happened so what happened is like what what's happened is like you're annoyed that like your dog's a little bit out of control and because people point it out that makes it a little bit personal to you and maybe you don't know what you're doing so much or you're not as good as like
Starting point is 00:32:24 handling them as you think you do so you're blaming it on the fact that he's big that you're small that your woman is like why don't you just call things what they really are yeah and she's dog shaming too she's like well actually just just my dog's boisterous and you're like yeah a lot of people had boisterous dogs and they're not anymore because they figured out how to train them right and boisters wouldn't be the word for that like bountiful jumpy nat like that just doesn't happen like a curious puppy doesn't just walk out like, if someone's eating a sandwich, and then they're like, hey, you should walk the other way. That means that dog, like, runs for that person, try to eat the sandwich. I don't care if it's playful or not, but you're like, I'm experiencing some sort of inappropriate behavior in the way this dog is approaching me and it's making me uncomfortable so now i'm at the point where in a city where no one says anything anyone now i'm saying something to this woman and i have to say it in such a way where she gets she's probably walked down the
Starting point is 00:33:12 street like he was probably you could that just didn't that's not what it's the equivalent of a guy you know because people think like women are better with kids it's a guy with like a two-year-old and he's walking around like kicking everyone and throwing stuff all around and they're like he's like and then they're like hey control your kid he's like because i'm a man i can't handle children here's what i'll do you know it'd be funny and i would do this like legit you can offer this woman you could be like hey i'll even have my female give me a week with this motherfucker no no no i'll have my female dog walker do a session where i'm like do me a favor meet this woman in the nicest way assess what going on, and then you go handle it and you just let me know what it was.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And I'll have Aviva who's got Sweet Pea right now who handles them so beautifully. I'll be like, and you tell me, right? I won't even do it as a man because she's not even going to listen to me. I'll be like – Yeah, yeah. I can't imagine. Because I train a lot of people. I'm like, you tell me what happened and then you give me the aggregate
Starting point is 00:34:07 and then I'll have her come on and be like, here's the situation. And she'll call it exactly the way it is. Dude, someone like this would have a huge problem listening to a man trainer, right? Like everything would be like, hey, you're doing it wrong. Oh, because I'm a woman.
Starting point is 00:34:19 You're like, you hired me to do this. No, they don't because here's why. Because here's why. You put them in their place? I do these things like at the level that, listen, first of all, men don't ask for help. Okay. 90% of the people I work with are women. And they they so many of them appreciate I go, listen, you're paying me a lot of money. You're paying me a lot of money. And you're paying somebody who's like, I'm legitimately like a third degree black belt and not even self-proclaimed
Starting point is 00:34:42 when it comes to this, like, written books about this tv shows around the world for this like trained what dogs around the around the world around the country like um the guy that uh trained count dankula to train his dog do you know what that one was no but i'm laughing just count dankula dog to do a nazi salute but but here's the thing is like it's like people you don't call me if you if you haven't like exhausted your resources at the first point they're like no no i need to listen to what this person has to say and i'm like right like let's stop playing like man and woman like and i tell them like when i'm getting like pushback with men or when i go listen don't play that shit with me i go i was raised i was raised by three women my mom my grandma my aunt everything
Starting point is 00:35:23 everything i know everything I know about assertiveness in business, all this shit comes from my mother. So drop that shit right now because my job is to make you the best version of yourself that you can be. And that requires you standing up in your own spine, whether you have a dick hanging between your legs or a slit,
Starting point is 00:35:40 it does not matter. So when you talk to them like real, like I'm not treating you any different than I would treat anybody else because we have an hour to get this shit done. So you can either throw a fit or we can fix it. You treat them like a little kid. And then they're like, all right, let's go. I'm like, so cut that shit out now.
Starting point is 00:35:55 I had to do it the other day. I had this woman. She was a sweetheart. She called me. She goes, I have this dog. You're the fifth person I've called. Lunging, barking, all this stuff and everything. I go, okay, well, what did they tell you to do?
Starting point is 00:36:05 And everything was like avoidance strategy, walking around cars, waving coots. I go, none of that is addressing the actual problem because the problem you have is an introductory problem because when this dog sees other dogs, that's when he goes nuts. You can run around cars all you want, but you'll just continue running around cars. So I was like, I'm going to take this leash from you, and I'm going to show you how to handle this. So I brought this dog into a pack of like five dogs. Sit in the car, sweetheart. The dog starts barking and growling. I go, to take this leash from you and I'm going to show you, I'm going to show you how to handle this. So I brought this dog into a pack of like five dogs. The dog starts barking and growling. I go, now watch this. So I showed her these techniques of like how to hold it.
Starting point is 00:36:31 And she starts crying because she's like, she's overwhelmed by it. And I go, listen to me. And I said to her, I go, I get that you're emotional about it. Knock it off. You have to knock it off right now. And she goes, I go, call your therapist after this. You have an hour with me for me to show you how to get this done. And you're going to stop crying when I actually fix it. How old is this woman? Late thirties. Dude, I would love to walk down the
Starting point is 00:36:54 streets of New York and just see you yelling at a crying woman. But I'm not yelling. I'm speaking the way I grab her hand and I go, listen, feel what I'm doing under this. Now you do this and stand in the middle of this situation and like, stop crying about it. Cause your dog sees you. Like stand up, like get powerful, get strong. Like whatever it is you do, like put you put, put like the fucking mommy pants on right now. And then she did it. And then at the end of it, I'm like, did you, did you, did you,
Starting point is 00:37:18 did you still need to cry about that thing? She's like, no, it's gone now. I'm like, right. When you stop, like when you, when, when you stop wiggling in the fucking problem you get to like you you come you get to like you seek the higher ground in a way yeah so like i try to push people to that place and i do i do that i do it in fucking life with everybody yeah i know for sure well this is how she dealt with it she says and i was told that i should have walked the other way around the park i debated throwing a full poo bag at him and then taking off but i decided to smile and wish him a nice day is this your dog throw throw shit at the guy and walk away he's like if there's any sentence that tells you more than this guy gave you a weird look because she didn't even say anything he just gave
Starting point is 00:38:03 you a weird look and then you decided i'm to throw shit at him and then run around. You're like, yeah, yeah. Who's reading this article being like, what a psycho that guy is? Can you believe him? By the way, in a million years, if you gave her that opportunity, there's no way she would have ever done that. No. And she goes, yeah, yeah, that's also true.
Starting point is 00:38:22 I almost fucking gave him one. I'm sure you would have done that. I'm sure you would have thrown a bag of shit in someone. Okay. When he was learning recall on a training lead and got too close to an unsocialized dog, but hers is socialized in her opinion, I was given abuse by the owner several times on different walks
Starting point is 00:38:40 for being a skanky, badly dressed bitch. That's what she says. Nothing to do with the dog. Yeah, when I'm walking, this guy calls, hey, you're a fucking skanky bitch. It's like, oh, I can't have a good dog because I'm a woman? Your tits are out.
Starting point is 00:38:55 What are you wearing that potentially, someone's calling you a skanky dressed bitch, and what does it have to do with your dog? No, she doesn't have a picture of her. But my guess would be like armpit hair, the whole ball of wax. Oh, I was going the opposite way.
Starting point is 00:39:10 What do you think? And super hot? Yeah, I was thinking- They don't write articles for fucking HuffPo. I was thinking more like super hot, like I'm out of the club, like I walk my dog in heels type of thing. Oh, that'd be funny. But I don't see someone like that
Starting point is 00:39:22 having a journalist degree, like writing an article for HuffPo. Wait, wait, wait. What was the word you just used? A journalistic? A journalist. Are you reading the crap you're saying to me? I said degree, but I think you get a degree on,
Starting point is 00:39:37 you can buy one on a bubblegum machine, I think is how it happens. Just blaming everything on sexism. My ex cheated on me because I'm my, just because they think my dog's too small. Right. Every, every problem in my life is because guys don't think that I can handle my dog.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I'm sure she's great. No, these girls are all great. She goes, this almost wrapping up on that. We got in one more article. Bruce wasn't difficult down to the fact that he's a big dog with a puppy personality no i was failing him because having a vagina means that i'm ill-equipped to train anything taller than my ankles now that bruce is fully grown i
Starting point is 00:40:13 don't tend to get insults anymore it's a fun fact that people generally don't want to insult anyone walking an overgrown terrier with such large teeth if her point is to be like, hey, having a big dog is like that Bill Burr joke is like having a gun that you can pet. I would never put an air down there in the list of dogs you'd think that about. It's like, this isn't a Rottweiler, a German Shepherd, a Pit Bull, or like, no.
Starting point is 00:40:38 They have this idea. Dude, I'm gonna show you, there's this air down there that lives down my block. It's like the cutest, funniest looking thing. Yeah, this girl's idea is like, she's just walking around getting like here's what here's what this article articles should be called um delusions of grandeur from a person who also happens to have a dog that's what this article is really good and then uh there is one more part of this dog thing but this is you're not in like the dog show world. But so no, no, no. But I train a lot. I deal with a bunch of those people.
Starting point is 00:41:10 So the Westminster Dog Show, they they've there is like five or six different articles about this. It was a whole thing. And one of their issues is that the female dogs aren't winning as much as the male dogs. And that the reason for that is because when male dogs win, they let them keep competing. And when girl dogs win, they make them go breed, right? So that's the issue. And they're like, so Hollywood, Wall Street, and Main Street have all been scrutinized for being sexist.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And now it seems that the Westminster Dog Show is also deemed unfair to females. People don't like to campaign females around because they don't like to jeopardize their breeding program, she said. Males can be used as a stud any time and still show and breed at the same time. When you read these articles, you go, yeah, I don't know what to tell you. Who cares? Who the fuck cares that female dogs aren't winning as much breeding?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Who cares? Do you think those dogs give a shit about doing that that's like who is this hurting yeah i trained so many people and i'm like yeah this is for you like this is like yeah it's fun for the dogs to be social and run around and all that but you could just take them to the dog park to do that it's like who cares and here's the other thing is like this is for you exactly those those those shows are so pompous to begin with all they do is they're trying to like embrace perfection the way they're trying to embrace perfection the way like a pageant does right so they're like okay like i have prince that giant i have the i have the biggest great danish show dog in the country he's like he's the best right and it's like he he doesn't give a shit if he's doing it or not but they're like yeah he's gigantic gorgeous he
Starting point is 00:42:49 looks like a stallion and they're like right and when he gets a little bit older he's not going to be able to do it anymore because they're trying to capture these dogs at like the pinnacle of their perfection right so this is so what you're doing is pompous and sort of aesthetic and sort of weird to begin with. Yeah, you're not. So then you're like, okay, so after the dog has babies and then their like body stretch out and then their nipples get bigger. It's like, right. Just the way the male dogs, once they, their balls start to sag and all that kind of, it's like, right. You're, you're taking a pop, a pompous culture and then you're splitting hairs from like the degrees of pompousness.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Come on. Do they judge the dog's dick in the competitions? Like is that a part of it? Like one of the scores is like nice hog? So here's what they do. So with Prince, they do this thing where they feel their back legs and then they have to feel their testicles. So when I was training him to do it, I had to like fondle his balls
Starting point is 00:43:40 and get him used to it. And he's like a 210-pound great Dane. But that's for the show? Yeah. They check their teeth. They have the jig. They check their scrotum. And he was just like, all right, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I didn't know we were on this level, but all right. And then do they give like a check? Like, oh, this guy had like a nice stick. Yeah, he's like this guy's pat. He's got a sick piece. Well, the best – okay, this next sentence is like making me laugh a lot. But the females who aren't breeding but in heat are always great for competition. You just got sick peace. Well, the best, okay, this next sentence is like making me laugh a lot, but the females who aren't breeding,
Starting point is 00:44:08 but in heat are always great for competition. But they say one of the problems is during the female cycle, which occurs every six months, they can be moody. So their coat may not be optimal, making it hard to compete. Sometimes if the dogs are on their period, they go, yeah, but it's not fair that the dog the female dogs are a little bit erratic
Starting point is 00:44:28 when they're on their period dude that's funny it's it's the culture we live in like i gotta tell you like something i was i was hanging out with schultz yesterday right and i'm like i'm hanging out and we're just we talk about this other than i'm like it's's, you just get like, you just get like, fuck everything. Fuck everybody. I just want to be in my bubble of people who don't think this way. Yeah, no, I mean, I've always said that. It's like, if you have, it's impossible to, you don't want to be with anyone while they're going through like annoying phases, whether that's like a jet, like, or your friends or whatever,
Starting point is 00:45:01 anyone that's going through like an annoying phases, especially when you're like 30, you're like, yeah like yeah dude go like do that and then come back a fully formed human because like when someone like when someone breaks up with someone and they're like right after they're like dude i've done something they're like um they're just in that thing and like they wake up crying and they're like and then they start you're like they start talking to you like they call you just so they can tell you what their problems are so they they're like hey man just wanted to call to see how it's going i'm like yeah how's it and you're just like looking at your watch you're like five four three two one you know i didn't really you
Starting point is 00:45:31 know she was i don't even think like me and her were but and there it is you're like okay i was thinking that these girls there's like this new thing of like female incels because it's the reason why what's incel so really see i told you just justin like really doesn't pay attention to any of this stuff like you're out of the game but like so incels for like the you know it's like a certain type of guy on the internet that um the the the the classic version would be like the guy that's sort of like he thought women were always turning him down and became like a school shooter. Or like in Toronto, there was a guy that drove a car into a bunch of people.
Starting point is 00:46:09 But they have there's like different there's different types. I know too much of the types, but there's like different groups. There's like MGTOW. There's the other one. But they're like kind of criticism about them. But it's one of those things like the flat earth thing where I know less of them than people making fun of it. You know, like, which is why it's kind of not fun to make fun of people will always be like, Oh, these like flat earthers are so crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:29 And you're like, I know like two flat earthers. And I've, I've seen 85,000 people be like, making fun of flat earthers. Right. So it's less fun to make fun of. But the female incel is this new version where you're like, I'm going to be annoying. I'm going to have like this, these insane, like judgments on how you should be. And also I should have this like cool hot guy that treats me well. I think Justin had the best point where you go, but why would they bother?
Starting point is 00:46:52 They're not looking at you. Yeah, dude, I have this conversation with, I have this conversation all the time. And this is like, and I have this conversation with women who are like, who are like very much on the forefront of like outspoken, strong women with social platforms. And we get into full agreement about this conversation when we talk about masculine, feminine energy.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And what you have is you have a culture full of cuckold dudes who go on things like Bumble, which is to me a cuck site. It's like someone said, would you ever go out with a woman who asked you out? I'm like, when would she ever have – if I'm in the room with a woman that I find attractive, when would she even have the opportunity to ask me out? Like, I'm going to smile, look at her, walk up, say hello, and do that. Because you're setting a dynamic from the beginning, right? You're like, oh, no, I have to go on the – I need permission from her app to say hello.
Starting point is 00:47:43 It's like you're already starting out from a – you're already starting out. That starting out. But if you are a busy guy, there is a benefit to Bumble where like, you can just not even think about it. And then once you have the matches, it sort of like does the work. And I'm sure that's the majority of the reason those people are going, come on, please. Like the majority of people going on that, they're like here, I want to know she likes me first. So I feel comfortable saying, okay, because there's this whole hashtag culture, but like you, you, here's what happens. You have like chivalry is kind of dead. And then you have Here, I want to know she likes me first so I feel comfortable saying okay because there's this whole hashtag culture. Here's what happens. You have chivalry is kind of dead, and then you have men who are like their version of masculinity is a response to this defensive femininity.
Starting point is 00:48:19 So it's like they either are like chest-beating Neanderthals who wheel a club, right? Or you have these dudes who are like, oh, no, I just want to appease. I just want to do all these things so she likes me and not offend her like they don't understand they don't understand the sort of etiquette or have the savvy to be like no i can still be like a masculine man and consider her needs consider her values consider the things that she wants to do and still take the lead and set up a date so she understands that i'm like being chivalrous and thoughtful and at the same time she can like relax and doesn't have to bring like her, doesn't have to wear her work pants onto a date, which what fucking woman wants that anyway. And like,
Starting point is 00:48:50 I can still like fuck the living shit out of her. I don't want to wear a pillow and cherish her at the same time, which is what every fucking woman wants. They want to be like, yeah, I want this guy to like love me, respect me, cherish the shit out of me. And I want him to fuck the shit out of me in a public restroom. Like that's what they all want. Yeah. And it's like, I i talked to so many women about that and it's like all these things are like like i was i was i was having a conversation with like a friend of mine who's a celebrity who's whose girlfriend is like stunning and she was like yeah men just don't do that anymore it's so rare
Starting point is 00:49:18 so it's like you you kind of end up settling or you feel like like do i have to be the man in this relationship and then it's like they end up resenting these then they end up going out with these dudes who are like so passive and then they end up resenting the shit out of them and then they start like hating men as a result of that it's like it's just it's just this perpetual cycle because you have dudes who just don't know how to they don't know how to they don't know how to treat women and then you have women as a result who like are so emasculating and don't know how to let a man be a man and take the lead because they're afraid they're like well i can't give up my dominant leadership role and as a result who like are so emasculating and don't know how to let a man be a man and take the lead because they're afraid they're like well i can't give up my dominant leadership role and they think
Starting point is 00:49:49 it's like a power struggle as opposed to this like synergy yeah there is sort of almost like that idea when you're talking about those type of guys and then the girls sort of because these guys have sort of like beat themselves down into this thing and then when they see them and then the guys are so like repressed like because all their masculinity or whatever is repressed and then they kind of when they do let it out it comes out in like these like yelly bursts or whatever it is toxic and then there's and then they go oh look see i thought we got rid of that and you're like well the reason he hasn't gotten rid of it because like you've never let like when this guy suppresses all this thing it's the girl the christians that kind of end up being fucking, you know, prostitutes or whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:28 It's because it's so repressed. Then when it does come out, it comes out and like a brah. But let me tell you something. That's all, that's, that's, it's men's job to figure that out. It's men's job to figure that shit out. It's not women's job to give them permission to figure that. It's men's job to figure that shit out. And then when you have these women give them permission to figure that. It's men's job to figure that shit out. And then when you have these women who are like,
Starting point is 00:50:47 and this is my favorite when they go, well, you know what it is? I'm just like, like, like I'm just feminine. I'm in my power. And like real men just can't handle me as if like, as like masculine men want feminine women. Now, feminine woman does not mean number one, a pushover. Number two, not a woman who asks for what she needs.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Not a woman who's not assertive. Not a woman who's not powerful. Fver number two not a woman who asks for what she needs not a woman who's not assertive not a woman who's not powerful feminine woman means a woman who's like powerful and also can stand in her femininity right we have these women who are doing like an impression of the douchebag men who kind of like you know treated them like shit in high school and they're like no no men just can't it's like no men aren't looking at you they're not looking at you and then they get upset they're like real Men just can't. It's like, no, men aren't looking at you. They're not looking at you. And then they get upset. They're like, real men just can't handle me.
Starting point is 00:51:28 So then you end up dating these like pushover dudes. And then it's like, oh, see, this guy can't handle. It's like, no, like the women that I, like I work with so many powerful executives, artists. Zoe Kravitz was like, I was fucking on that TV show. She ran that fucking production, right? She ran that fucking production right she ran that fucking production from top to bottom she was just feminine as shit we had like we had intimacy
Starting point is 00:51:50 scenes together like at no point was i at no point was i like man this is like like she was like a boss ass fucking chick and at no point was she like sitting there like wielding it around like some fucking tough guy or doing an impression like like she handled that shit well and it was like she was a feminine fucking powerful woman and i work with so many women like that and they still maintain their femininity and none of them do this immature version of like these women who are like now i don't get it like they start beating their chest like like they start beating their chest about like how porn stars are like such an empowered thing for women and i'm like what are you fucking talking about it's the most like it's the most like self-exploitive thing a fucking human being could do it's like now you're weaponizing your pussy and then like devoid
Starting point is 00:52:31 of into like any woman wants to do that like stop it like who the fuck are you talking to and then when you talk to all those powerful women about that and i know dude some of my clients ceos of these art galleries around these corners that they don't sell pieces in those places for less than $10 million. Like, they fucking run this shit. They have houses. They own properties in some of the most expensive buildings here. They have houses in the Hamptons. And all of them look at women who, like, do that shit.
Starting point is 00:52:59 They go, oh, those are just, like, dumb girls. That's how they think about women who talk that way. Yeah. they do. They also, and I'm like, I'm not, and like the majority of my following is women. The majority, like I work with mostly women, like I'm exposed to all these different types and I'm sitting there with like powerful women who like, and I'm not talking about like made a million dollars. I'm talking about like continue to earn millions of dollars. Like not someone who like lucked out and like, Oh look,
Starting point is 00:53:24 my fucking Instagram account. I got all these sw dollars. Like not someone who like lucked out and like, oh look, my fucking Instagram account, I got all these swipes. Like, great, I get that. I'm talking about like chicks who are like, no, no, no, I have my law degree. This is my Range Rover because the other one's in the fucking shop. But can you do me a favor?
Starting point is 00:53:37 I need to rent another car this weekend because I have to ship, I have to send the guy over to my house in the Hamptons for the weekend because he's building the deck and I want him to stay in the guest house for the weekend so we can get it done by the time I'm done. I'm talking about people make some fucking money and make choices.
Starting point is 00:53:51 None of them act that way. They're like, no, I'm powerful and feminine at the same time. They laugh at women like that. Yeah, they don't have their guard up about every little thing. Why would they need to? Yeah, it's a confidence thing. Well, this article six things men do is sexist which is a good a good one for justin silver but the the experiment so this article is
Starting point is 00:54:12 san francisco-based dating coach emily loves went on 101 dates with 50 emily loves emily emily loves she went on 101 dates there's a word for. She goes 101 dates with 52 different guys. That's what I was, the first thing I said about this, I go- Did no one ask you out more than three times? Exactly. And then imagine a guy did that.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Like out of the gate, she's doing an article about how guys are sexist. And she's like, yeah, I just took 52 guys out on my date for an experiment that I was writing. Like, yeah, like like tucker max you mean okay yeah i'm writing my book i hope they serve girl beer in hell again you find findings from a whore continue come on yeah and then the article is how they all these are things the guy
Starting point is 00:55:00 did wrong it's like let's start with here's what uh here's the thing that someone might be doing that sexist use 52 guys so you can write in an experiment dollars that's like saying dude it's like i went out like uh it's it's like it's like here uh 101 ways women give bad blowjobs here's what i did i lined them all up in a room and got them blindfolded and stuff. Come on. Yeah. The 101 ways that women won't respect a man. So I fucked 101 women and never called them again to find, it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:33 what are you talking about? Did you go, all right, let's hear it. As she sat chatting on her, as she sat chatting with her date, another man stopped at the table to talk business with the guy she was with. Obviously,
Starting point is 00:55:44 I'm an entrepreneur. I mean, I don't know if if you know that and every time i try to interject or share an opinion based on the conversation i felt as though i was sidelined and treated as a little kid and i was like out of the gate you go imagine imagine like you're on a date with someone and a colleague of hers shows up and they talk for about business for a second, like, that they have together, and you're, like, interjecting on their personal conversation. Like, someone from her work shows up, and he's like, hey, we have this, I don't know if you've heard, but this problem at work, this guy's being annoying.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Have you tried paying him more? You're like, hey, just let us, you know. I'm just like, can you let us? Oh, I don't know? And you're like, well, yeah, maybe you don't know the intricacies of our, like, hedge fund that we're talking about because you don't work there. Obviously, I'm an entrepreneur. I write articles about sex. about this kind of stuff wherever it's like how refreshing is it to like not be subjected to like that sort of that whole dating culture in the way that so many people do it i'd be like i'd fucking put a gun in my mouth yeah i'd literally put a gun if like i dated like if i dated like
Starting point is 00:56:57 like masculine energy women if i was like or if i was like a shithead to women and like didn't know how to treat them right it was like i like I never run into these issues with women I never either I've always said this that like dude any girl that's kind of like really in this stuff I mean again it's like I don't think you want to invest with into people that are like going through nonsense to begin with but if you do it doesn't like I mean me and daddy were talking about this too but it's like he was going on some dates that like a girl their whole life was about like hating trump or whatever right and she's like he's wrong on this he's like literally hung out with her for an hour by like three hours in she was like ready to put a mega cap on it's like that's how like impressionable these people are yeah danny's like
Starting point is 00:57:37 a trump guy but he was just like yeah i mean he didn't do that he didn't do this like it was just so when people when people are like so all in on a thing like that a lot of girls the truth is like the girls that are men that get so impressionable that they get wrapped up it's like once you have their ear it's like because they were listening to all their friends and if they're listening to you now instead of their friends it's like you can switch them back pretty easily too especially if they're like 25 i could get so personal on the thumb like well yeah you know but it's the same way like 22 year old dudes and you know they'll listen to whoever right like
Starting point is 00:58:09 you know there's a certain type of guy that whatever crew they're in the kind of like main guy in that crew will have that little that guy having all of his opinions very soon you see it on the internet people start following a guy and then that becomes their you know internet dad and they think everything he thinks right but like a a girl that's in like 23 going through some phase, it's like you can wrap that brain back out of that pretzel in like a week. It's not even fully formed yet. Right. It's like the brain's not even fully developed yet at 23.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Men or women. And women listening. Women's brains are... No one's are. Whether or not she's on a date, 1950-esque ideas about women in work the outcome of his actions was the same loves felt that she didn't have a place at the table it didn't take long for her to move on to someone new it's like well yeah you're doing an experiment about 100 days so probably you're looking you're going in you're look you're going in looking for
Starting point is 00:59:02 reasons to write this experiment so you're looking for the negative. You're not like, oh, yeah, I really like this guy. So I try to work it out with him. There's one thing I expressed the fact that I felt this uncomfortable, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you have a conversation with him. And then you see if he's got enough emotional intelligence to hear you out about it. And then you see if maybe you were wrong or being interjective. And you don't know what his relationship was with that person or if he felt uncomfortable speaking about business and like bringing you into that, like none of these things were probably investigated for that, which is the
Starting point is 00:59:26 way you would really go forward in a relationship to build number one, communication. Number two, connection. Number three, intimacy. Moving on. Also, yeah. If you had, uh, I would have a field day with this person. If you had, if you were the type of person though, too, that like, uh, the guy, if, okay. If the guy was like, if you're on a date with a girl and your
Starting point is 00:59:45 boy shows up and you hang out with him for like an hour and talk about business like, yeah, like if I was on like a first date or an ass and you showed up and me and you talk about comedy for an hour while she's there, that's a lot. But it's like, did that happen? Or was this guy, you know, his buddy showed up and he talked to him for like five minutes and you're like, I didn't have a place. Is this the same as the dog lady? No, it's a different lady. Oh, I think it's the same lady. They're all the same lady. I know, that's my point.
Starting point is 01:00:11 When people hear the word sexist, they tend to think of the most offensive thing they can. Says Demetrius Figiona, this guy's name, the creator of A Mighty Love, a podcast focused on dating and relationship advice, which probably sucks. But sexism, name, the creator of A Mighty Love, a podcast focused on dating and relationship advice, which probably sucks. But sexism, which in the case of romantic relationships, usually impacts heterosexual couples.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Usually. That's sometimes it even, sometimes sexism, which is also funny, like two lesbians, and the one being like, you're in the kitchen, you're a woman. She's like, you are too. Two gay guys. Go fix the shed. No, you fix the shed. shed you're the man you're supposed to be the man too is bro so sexism is broken down into two categories hostile and benevolent sexism hostile
Starting point is 01:00:56 sexism is more overt cooking is a woman's job is what they say and we usually think of that but benevolent sexism on the other other hand, is often subtle. So and so let me put oh, let me put air in your car tires so you don't have to get your nails dirty. That's benevolent sexism. I'd like to say put in your Twitter handle benevolent sexist. Benevolent sexist? I consider myself a bit of a benevolent sexist. So one so one's like an aggressive form of it. The other one's sort of just like a... Anything. He's degrading. He's kind of degrading.
Starting point is 01:01:28 The other one is anything. Like if a girl's picking up like something really huge and you're like, you want help with that? Like, I don't need help with anything. I find it so funny too. Cause like I have none of the guy traits where like I need to, and I feel no sort of ways about them.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Cause I've, you know, especially like I'm confident enough i've been successful whatever i was always like in any most groups growing up in my life i was like uh i wasn't a bitch or anything like that so when this idea where girls try to flip it on me and they'll be like hey you know this is like kind of the guy's job to like fix the air conditioner for example i was like yeah i mean or it could be your job to call the guy and i'll pay for it so we can do that too i have no ways about girls trying to use like the guy thing about making me do stuff it's like yeah you should change the tire it's like yeah or you could also change the tire because i have no interest in doing that here's the bottom line of this is like there's a lot of pussy ass men who write articles that are like the counter version of this so they're like the shithead guys
Starting point is 01:02:23 like here's why women suck right which is basically they're the equal opposite of this. So they're like the shithead guys are like, here's why women suck. Right. Which is basically they're the equal opposite of these like dumb women. Solid article. Bone hose. What? I've read that article. Solid article. Solid article. You don't like, you can almost be like, listen, neither of you are going to be happy or find what you're looking for with this paradigm anyway. So what ends up happening is at one point, they either just remain angry and they just stay miserable people forever and they're lonely or dissatisfied in relationships.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Or at a certain point, somebody that's close to them just sort of kicks reality to them and they're like, oh yeah, I've been a fucking asshole my whole life. And then I read some stupid book, like getting to, I do, which is like a horrible title, but like solid advice. And like, Oh yeah. Like I realized I was either going to be right and miserable or I was going to be fucking,
Starting point is 01:03:12 I was going to realize like, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like a female dickhead or like I'm a male piece of shit. You know what I'm saying? A male, female dickhead.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I was a male dickhead. It's like, that's just given like both dickheads, both assholes. It's a, the guy who has the, yeah has the yeah you have the game like when you call go to a hotel like do you have a my the bible in the and under the drawer and they're like yeah we have the bible like no my bible the game i was loving the idea of a female of uh of negging but i was gonna do like a pickup artist but like a woke pickup artist like because he you know, getting pussy for not liking Trump and stuff like that. Well, they have them now.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Yeah, I know. But then, of course, but the negging is when you go up to a girl and you say, oh, do you identify as a man or a woman? So that's progressive negging. You're asking them. You're asking them what their gender idea is. And I said that you change. Even progressive negging, traditionally you say phrases like, hey, is he bothering you?
Starting point is 01:04:09 And we've changed that to, is he bothering you? That's the progressive version. Do you joke about it, progressive nagging? No, I'm going to do a video about it. Oh, I don't want to be in that one. Is he bothering you? Okay, you can be in that one.
Starting point is 01:04:21 You're changing, is he bothering you? Is he bothering you? You're making me laugh. That's the new version. But you're tweeting it. Yeah, you tweeted at him. Oh, dude, that's so funny. Yeah, and they say, for example,
Starting point is 01:04:34 women found that dating guys with sexist attitudes reported more fights about power, dynamics, jealousy, abuse, and cheating, among other things. And you go, okay, so self-reported sexist attitudes by people that took this study. And also it's like we had more fights about cheating. Like what would that matter if he was sexist or not? Yeah, normal not sexist guy would be completely fine about it. Like who's cheating?
Starting point is 01:04:58 Is it him or you? Like how are you not fighting about that either way? People that have sexist boyfriends getting more fights when they cheat it's like what the fuck oh my god dude that's great yeah yeah that's good stuff so these are a few of the ones she says so when you say i'm not looking this is like a her things that she says are a problem one is like when you put her on a pedestal so that's one of the things like sometimes it's a problem or not a problem this is a problem for her so if sometimes sexism can come across as a friendly jester rushing to open a car door on your date to make sure she gets home
Starting point is 01:05:36 okay or examples so that's the kind of shit like anytime anytime that you're kind of like going over the top for a girl they say like that's you know sexist behavior or and you go there's all this stuff where you go the problem is women men do stuff that they think you'll like like the guy's not doing that to be sexist he's doing that because he thinks you're gonna like it and then maybe he can smash let me even do you one let me even do you one let me even do you one better on this right here's what here's what women complain about right yeah and at the same time they this is where men's subtlety of this when men fuck this up because of their lack of couth on etiquette and how to do it and women women are unclear about what they want and don't want first of all when i'm walking down
Starting point is 01:06:22 the street right and it's like, shit's gotten like a little sketchy with COVID. Right. Yeah. And especially like there's certain corners, I can live in a nice neighborhood, but there's certain corners where like, that corner is a little, there's like little pockets in New York where shit's like sketchy. Right. And I'm walking with unsaid girl's name. Right. And she looks good and all this stuff. And we're walking down the street. And there's like, I know there's something silly.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Like I take her by the hand and I'm like, here, come. I'm like, walk on the side of me. Right. Because you don't have the like six cents in that input that a male has with testosterone. Or as good as peripheral vision. What did you say? Or as good as peripheral vision.
Starting point is 01:06:59 But like, I'm like on guard. Cause I'm like, listen, if this dude, like I'm the first thing getting attacked in order to put, like, I still have like my job still to protect you and make you feel safe. And also I want a woman who wants me to protect her, make her feel safe. That doesn't mean I'm like, hey, bitch, wear this burlap sack when you go jogging because I don't want your fucking. What are you talking about? So there's number one, there's that. So there's number one, there's that. And there's also like, if I'm like, hey, if you're taking a cab, I'm like, hey, call me or you're taking a train.
Starting point is 01:07:30 I'm texting when you get home. So I know you got home safe. Like, that's not me putting you on a pedestal as much. Dude, that's on the list. You're fucking kidding me. No, I'm not. I'm like, text me when you get home safe. Like, why?
Starting point is 01:07:41 You don't think I can get home safe? I'm like, all right, you know what? Go hang out with the guy who doesn't give a shit if you got home safe right but any woman who's sitting there and being like so he made me text him to get him so here's what that really comes down to right women want i'll be honest with this women want to like a guy more a little bit more than that guy likes them and then none of these things are complaints they're all like oh my god like he really cares like they want to be chairs to care for. Yeah. So in the case where if you took any of these dudes that she's
Starting point is 01:08:10 complaining about, right. And he was like, she'd be like, I'm really into this dude. And he's considerate and like cares. Now, assuming she's not going to go for the guy who's like,
Starting point is 01:08:20 like I said, like the fucking, the, the club wielding man. Who's like, you know, like beating his chest, like a fucking gorilla. You understand what I wielding man who's like you know like beating his chest like a fucking gorilla you understand what i'm saying she's like no this usually consider it all this thing is like he asked me to like text me like of course because you're like we're he's
Starting point is 01:08:33 showing you it's expressions of his care because if my sister right we're taking a fucking train or a cab home she better fucking call me when she gets home so i got no she got home safe plus if this relationship goes well and we're and like at one point we're gonna hit like the age of where we're gonna have kids you better think that if we have a fucking daughter that i'm gonna ask her to text me when she gets home and you should be looking for that that's a man that you're dating what wait we have a daughter together and you know she didn't ask her to fucking text you when you're a seven-year-old Fucking mind That's a funny angle on that yeah
Starting point is 01:09:08 Seven-year-old girls like going to her friend's house texting. She does not need to text you right? Okay. All right lady You know what? Here's the thing do you here's what I want you to do Hitchhike your way home. Don't text me when you get there and you know what? I'll just look at i'll just look at the newspaper tomorrow and if like if i see you know if i see you're not dead i'll maybe i'll text you and you know i'll call you a cunt in the pro is that you're happy and then we have when you pay for the date without asking her if that's cool first you're you're getting advice from the fish that's all this is and there's so much articles out there dude it's the fish giving you advice on how to catch a fish.
Starting point is 01:09:46 And you're like, don't ever listen to any of this nonsense. This is, I mean, dude, like, listen to this. The nerve of the audacity. Remember when I told you about, remember when I told you about that chick I got into a fight with because she was like a client of mine and then she was like hitting on me. And like, I told you the whole thing that happened right yeah okay so I kind of keep like professionalism provide like I don't I don't blur those boundaries too much I don't do it in common
Starting point is 01:10:12 like I don't I just don't I just don't do that no I mean either so I know you don't don't fuck any of the dudes I hang out with right so like I was like working with her and then she was like everything she was like you know because I become friends with a lot of people in this neighborhood and a lot of people I work with her in this neighborhood it's like oh yeah we'll grab a drink like right after we're done working and then it became like and then it became like oh your birthday's coming I have to take you out for your birthday I'm like uh you know why don't we go like why don't we go like we'll go when like this girl I'm seeing is coming out here and she's's like, well, why can't I just take you out? I'm like, ah, it's like, all right.
Starting point is 01:10:46 She kept like, like insisting, insisting, insisting. So like after like, and at one point, um, uh, after like, she said, she's like, oh, I'm at this bar around your corner. I'm with my friend right now. Why don't you come by? So I came by and she was like with this dude and the two of them, like the two of them like making out. And I'm like, fuck, am I like crashing someone's date here? And then I'm like hanging out with this dude. And you could see, he two of them like making out i'm like fuck am i like crashing someone's date here and then i'm like hanging out with this dude and
Starting point is 01:11:06 you could see he was like sort of i don't want to say like i don't want to sound uh i don't want to sound like fucking chest he was like you could tell he was like kissing up to me like he knew who i was from like comedy and all these other things like oh i've seen you i was like so you could see there was a little bit of like he was like standing on his toes a little bit like emotion with me i'm like you don't have to fucking do that like i wasn't challenging him in any way but i was like she sort of like if i was on a date with some chick and then she was like yeah and now i called this dude over who's like you know this like like my dog trainer and like comedian and he's like good looking dude and it's like we're on a date
Starting point is 01:11:38 together and now he's like i'd be like what are you doing like i'm on a date with you like our time is our time i'm like it's it's sort of like i'm like what were you trying, what were you trying to like, and I could see like, he was uncomfortable and then it made me uncomfortable. I was like, all right, whatever. So then at a certain, like, and these were not like huge red flags in terms of like working with somebody at certain point. I'm like, all right, this person is just a little off and doesn't really have like, they're not really taking my temperature real well when I express like, hey, I have boundaries for this type of shit. express like hey i have boundaries for this type of shit so at one point like we had this conversation and like after we're working with that we had this conversation and i and like she started like disclosing to me like why she said like she's like oh this guy he's he was like crying after sex and all this stuff and like i had to dump this guy and i go and i go the deal and i was like i would i would suspect that was the thing she's like she's always's always been like, you know, when we were having sex, you'd be like, oh, my God, like no one's ever made me feel this way. And I was like, right.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I would think that those were the type of guys that you would meet based on the way that you act. And she was like, what? She was like, I think I'm so good about this. Like, I don't want to be on texting too long. So, like, I'm like, hey, like, once we start texting, I'm like, I'm like, I want to get off texting immediately. I'm like, well, who's the one who suggested? She like, I'm like, I'm like, I want to get off texting immediately. I'm like, well, who's the one who suggested she goes, I do.
Starting point is 01:12:47 And I go, and then, so what do you suggest? I'm like, so why don't we meet somewhere? I'm like, well then who picks the place? She's like, I do. And then, you know, in order to be fair, I'm like, Hey, like, like, like let's split the check. And I'm like, and then they agree to that. She goes, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:58 And I go, she's like, I'm like, you wouldn't last three seconds with someone like me. Yeah. And she was like, why? I'm like, because like, I wouldn't last three seconds with someone like me. Yeah. And she was like, why? I'm like, because like I wouldn't even consider you – I wouldn't even consider dating somebody like you because number one, you set the dynamic by you're like – like the whole point is like I'm courting you, right? So you're wondering why you date these like pussy-ass men
Starting point is 01:13:18 who sit there and cry in bed and think like – you want the dude like fucking the shit out of you and making you orgasm with his cock and you've been like, I don't know how that dude made me feel that way. Right. But here's how it does. It's because that whole sex process takes place from the moment you two start interacting because he's courting you. And in a way, it's like, oh, this dude's like, you know, consider my needs. Anticipate.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Like it's all backwards here. So then he's the chicken bed. Like what do you think is going to happen? But I feel like some people probably, like, when they listen to stuff like that from a guy, like, he's like, oh, well, yeah, but you're better with girls. It's like, yeah, but everyone does the same thing. It's just with a different caliber of girl. Like, whether it's a nine or a seven, it's like you might have fucking, you know, whatever,
Starting point is 01:14:02 date whatever chicks you date. And even if someone's, like, some 300-pound dude dude, it's like you're still going through the same shit. The caliber of chick's just different. Right. It doesn't matter. Right. It's like you're right. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:12 The fork stays on the left and the knife stays on the right whether we're eating at fucking Denny's or we're eating at a five-star restaurant. It's the same process. And 100% there is no one in the world that's a chick that doesn't love, love the move where especially on the first date you go to the washroom and then pay for the check and then you come back and she's like, what's up? And you're like, oh, yeah, let's get out of here. She's like, we have to pay. And like, I took care of it. They love it. That's the ultimate in G moves.
Starting point is 01:14:40 But it's not. But that's such a given in my mind. I'm like, if you're at the point. Sometimes you can't escape to the bathroom and make it happen. And sometimes it's too hard to do that sneaky move. Dude, I go like this. I go like this. I go, listen, I appreciate the fact
Starting point is 01:14:51 that you want to participate in this, but I asked you out. If I ask you out, that means I'm taking you out. Now, conversely, you're like, hey, Justin, thank you for taking me out. Now I'd like to take you out. I will agree to that. But right now I'm asking you out, which means I'm asking you out. I'd like to take you out. I will agree to that. But right now I'm asking you out,
Starting point is 01:15:06 which means I'm asking you out. I'm taking, I'm asking to take you out. Oh, okay. A few more is when you put her on a pestle, we just did that. When you make assumptions about her interests without asking first, like, so I don't know. What's your favorite spatula? Do you use spices or what cleaning supplies do you go with? It's just like, and then she goes, maybe she doesn't like cooking. Yeah. Whoever like just assumes off the bat the girl likes cooking.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Maybe she's a whiskey connoisseur, a soon-to-be executive. And maybe she's more interested in being an auntie than a mom. It's like, you don't know. Maybe she's the president. You don't know what this girl is about. How old is this woman who wrote this? They're all like wrote this they're all like 30 they're all 30 i'd say of course they are 25 to 30 when you pay for the day they don't like
Starting point is 01:15:51 that they are when you assume she has nothing to contribute to a certain conversation and it's like yeah maybe you shouldn't assume but sometimes they don't if you think women are capable of discussing certain topics i mean i don't know who thinks that or well i guess discussing certain topics. I mean, I don't know who thinks that. Well, I guess maybe certain topics like, hey, my balls are itchy. Anything you want to add to that? No, I gave you a fair shot and you proved to have nothing on the topic. It's just like, it's people that want,
Starting point is 01:16:20 they want the world to just change around them. You know what I mean? No, it's people, you know, here's what it is. I'll tell you, I'll tell you what, here's what it is. You have, you have, you have people who are in the early stages of becoming adults with their fingers on keyboards, thinking that what they're saying is actually making a difference to other people. And then believing that the shit they write is actually book is,
Starting point is 01:16:42 is dogma. Yeah. And that's the problem. You're like, yeah, there's sort of no – because anybody can write anything, say anything, publish anything. I mean, we're doing it right now on this podcast. It's self-produced. But it's sort of like, yeah, but at the same time, it's like you shouldn't really be writing art. You want to read great books on this thing.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Like Nathaniel Brandon who wrote – Art of Seduction. Art of Seduction. What? I said Art of Seduction. Art of Seduction. He also wrote this book like The Psychology of Romantic Love, and it literally explains from everything, like, marriage as a concept,
Starting point is 01:17:12 why it used to be because, like, you know, land used to be next to each other so people would marry for those reasons. Then in the actual Industrial Revolution, when people started marrying for love, then they start discussing monogamy. when people started marrying for love, then they start discussing monogamy. And it's like, you have like, you have like philosophers, psychologists, and like every, like these people weighing in,
Starting point is 01:17:32 like know what the fuck they're talking about. They're not just a bunch of 20 to 30, 70 year olds who like went on a hundred dates without like, and calling themselves a dating call. Imagine getting advice from that person. Yeah. What is the advice you're offering? It's like when people give you advice on a company or advice on how to do comedy and they've never done it. And you're like,
Starting point is 01:17:47 don't, like, you're literally getting advice from someone that doesn't know how to do this. Right, you're not an expert at this. And your advice
Starting point is 01:17:55 is just like how the guys need to do things differently. And you're like, but they go, when you try to impress her by positioning yourself as an authority
Starting point is 01:18:03 on, well, everything. And here's my advice to girls. Don't date anyone that reads this kind of article but there is something to be like you know i think even as i got older there was a bit of me being like okay talk about yourself like less and a bit of that and everyone sort of gets less yeah i think every 20 year old like they just kind of everything's just only talking about themselves but there is also this other thing with like especially especially it depends on your dating. If you're talking to 20 year old chicks and you're like a 25 year old dude and you're like talking to a 20 year old girl
Starting point is 01:18:29 and you go, girls don't like the guy who's like, you know, you might think that guy's annoying because he's like, oh, I'm the expert on this. And then you go, but that guy's smashing. Like, then that's the problem. So these girls are like, oh, these guys need to stop acting like they're an authority on everything. It's like, yeah, they'll stop doing it when you stop having sex with them that's that's
Starting point is 01:18:49 when they'll stop doing that yeah not when they read enough articles they'll stop doing that when it stops working so that's the gist on that but in terms of the paying thing i'll give i'll give women some creative i'll give them some great advice to solve all these problems well there's no ladies watching but you can the guys can relay it to the girls. Here, guys with your girlfriends or men who want to – women, date older. Oh, 100%. Date older.
Starting point is 01:19:16 And vice versa, I think. Date older. It's like – 85. Those women probably would be like, yeah, and then I dated a guy who was like – I'm 30, and I dated a guy who was like 42. You in my 30s. I'm 30. And I'm like, I dated a guy who was like 42. And you're like, yeah, date older. And he knows how to make me come because his form of sex education isn't from
Starting point is 01:19:32 watching fucking Pornhub. We have different theories on that. Your theory is like date a girl and even after a year, still be laying down like nonstop performances. And my theory is I'm not doing that. I don't, I do not have that theory, dude. Oh, you're saying at the beginning. I mean, listen, that shit ebbs and flows always.
Starting point is 01:19:48 But like, no, I don't have that theory, Ryan. No, of course. I thought you had more of the theory, like five times a week, even if you're married. No, I don't think that. I absolutely don't think that. And that's not ever been the case. I don't think that's possible.
Starting point is 01:20:04 I don't think, dude, the fucking dopamine system and novelty. I understand how the fucking – what do they call it? Not the hedonistic circle. The helios effect. The helium – what is it called? The heli – I forgot what it's called. It's basically how your dopamine system gets used to something, and then it becomes less rewarding.
Starting point is 01:20:19 It's like they take rats. They stick them in a tank together. They take a bunch of male rats. The males are fucking the females. Then the males lose interest. They put a new female in. It's like, boom, their they stick them in a tank together. They take a bunch of male rats. The males are fucking the females. Then the males lose interest. They put a new female in. It's like, boom, the testosterone goes right back up again. It's exactly a very accurate synopsis of humans, too.
Starting point is 01:20:35 It's like, what can I do to spice this up? I don't know, be someone different? Dude, that's why that role play shit comes in good. You're like, yeah. It can work if you get into it. But yeah, Lev's like 23. Here's the thing. It's like, dude, dudes like you and I are like as fucking busy as we are.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Like, do you know what my day is like? Yeah. Yelling at girls in the park that they can't have a dog this size. I have to so compartmentalize. Like, production is comedy. The other thing I'm doing, dog stuff. It's like compartmentalized time to like go away for a weekend. I have to consciously like shut shit down to focus so I'm not on my. It's like compartmentalized time to like go away for a weekend. It's like I have to like,
Starting point is 01:21:07 I have to consciously like shut shit down to focus. So I'm not on my phone the whole time. So I'm like, I'm giving you this time and attention because I fucking care enough. And you're the person that I want to spend time with. Like, like it take it like stuff like that with relationships like that. Like they take, it takes like effort,
Starting point is 01:21:21 man. You better be prepared to make a fucking effort. Yeah, I know. Or set it up in a way that you don't have to yeah yeah but lev said that he uh he was like telling us he's like eats out a girl for like 15 minutes before he ever has sex and he always makes her come first and i was like yeah i miss me with that oh i always do i always do i did i did i did an episode of my i
Starting point is 01:21:43 did an episode on erotica where she comes first and it was like i would yeah i but but in another way it's sort of like here's the deal it's like if you put too much pressure that they have to come every time that puts too much pressure because sometimes it's like a process exactly yeah and they love the fact that like like just like i want to go down i'm like i'm like you know what you just went rollerblading i love the fucking smell of your ass while you're sweating like ben orman when you just go rollerblading they said that to you no i'm saying that that was really fucking funny justin comes in with the rollerblades he's got the knee pads on elbow pad i want to go down like i
Starting point is 01:22:13 want to just get you up they just want to get you off sometimes so it's like pull your fucking top down like blow like the way like that like yeah it turns me on to fucking be able to like get on my knees and blow you sometimes but i'm like but the other aspect of it is like it's the same reason you want to kill on a comedy club you're like yeah i want to like i want to be like yeah i fucking killed here yeah with a new audience the same old comedy club with the same 50 people showing up day after day you know what the funny thing about ryan is here i'll i'll pull a little bit of the fucking curtain back ryan as uh as like aggressive as you are like you're a you're a fucking sweetheart so you know chicks love chicks love you no i'm not i'm a bad boy no you're not chicks love you because you are a fucking sweetheart they dig
Starting point is 01:23:00 you because you're like you're you're a fucking you're a sweet caring fucking person so that's why you can get away with all the shit you can get away with. Doing all this sort of stuff. Doing the podcast and videos and all that stuff. You're like, yeah, Ryan's a fucking awesome dude who's a sweetheart. Shut up. No, no, no. He's this fucking rocker dude who has no problems and makes fun of everybody.
Starting point is 01:23:19 It's like, nah, not really. He's a fucking hardworking motherfucker who's a sweetheart. I butt headfirst into the same shit that you all can tell where people's like preconceived notions about who you are but you're gay yeah i don't handle compliments well the um the the last thing i thought it'd be funny to talk about is because with with the the you know girls paying for bills and stuff like that i thought it was funny because you were like the master at getting your money back. Like we went to, we went away for the weekend and then Justin essentially, the place showed up
Starting point is 01:23:51 and they kind of billed it wrong. And then he got the money back from the car and all these. And you have the ultimate like Jewish power to get all the money back, which I'm such a bad, I literally, I could have got, I postponed talking to my landlord to get a rent decrease in COVID for the last five months. And I finally asked him and he have got, I, I, I postponed talking to my landlord to get a rent decrease in COVID for the last five months. And I finally asked him and he was like, yeah, yeah. And he took $400 off. And I was like, okay, I saved, I lost $2,500 just by like,
Starting point is 01:24:14 kind of being like scared to do it. Cause I'm not that dude. It's such an interesting thing. Like I've never, you know, like, and I'm, you know, like I make fun of Jews all the time. Like as a Jewish, right. I'm like, I, I, I don't think I felt like I never, I think I, I like Jewishish jokes make me laugh like i don't fall into the i don't fall into like the category of like defending my race type of thing i think it's so fucking stupid but like i've never found i've never found the stereotypic jews are cheap to be i've never found to be true because i have so many jewish we have so many jewish friends in comedy what do you find it none of them are really like that here's what i but here's what i think i think i think people
Starting point is 01:24:48 this is where i think that comes from is like when i'm on the phone with my brother or i'm on the phone my mom and they're like they're like you know my something happens like there's like late fees i'm like i'm like ah shit these fucking late fees it's just a given that you're never going to have to pay those late fees. And when people go like, oh, I got smacked with like, well, I owed on my credit card and then I had to pay like this balance and I got the late fees and then I'm like, well, wait, I'm like, you allow the protocol of the first level customer service agent to dictate what you're going to do as opposed to being like well put your supervisor
Starting point is 01:25:25 on the phone immediately and give me your name and then when i'm on the supervisor i'm like hey um yeah for some reason like i got a uh i got five months these late fees something was happening i wasn't getting my mail whether i'm in the right or wrong and most of the time i'm probably wrong with this i'd be like so i'd like so i'm gonna pay this off right now but i want you to reverse all five months of those late fees like well sir we, well, sir, we can't do that. I'm like, okay. My family, we all have this credit card. I've been with you for 10 years. So here's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Give me your name. Put your supervisor on. I'm going to cancel my credit card. I'm going to let them know it's because you'd rather lose my business than pay back $150. Do I have that right? And then they go, okay, well, we can do four of them. I'm like, which means you can do five. I wouldn't want to have to get someone involved. It's everything. It's like, I don't know, like late well, we can do four of them. I'm like, which means you can do five. I didn't want to have to get someone involved. It's everything.
Starting point is 01:26:06 It's like, I don't know, like late fees, things like that. But the Amazon thing, you were saying that you could just like not pay for packages. No, it's not like, if there's like some shit wrong or late, I'm like, yeah, I'm not paying. Oh, it doesn't want to go on record, I think. Prime means two days. If it's not prime, they're like, well, we can't take this thing back. They're like, I'm not taking it to the store. What was your brother's one? your brother like got everything for free
Starting point is 01:26:27 at the wedding no no no my brother will do it he does it like more slimier than i do he'll be like he'll go on some vacation with his chick and he went on some vacation with his chick there was like some insane resort and there was like a bug and it's like you're at a resort and it comes you got me it's like a roach or something like that and he goes yeah i want my money back there's roaches in your place and he goes they go sir well we can't give you the money back goes well that's interesting because we're holding a bat if you look my friends are considering places to hold a bachelor party, and this is the place that we were considering. But when I let them know about your insect infestation and I write about it,
Starting point is 01:27:14 I think we're probably going to change our minds about that. Can I have the three nights for free, please? And they'll be like, okay. Well, that's interesting. Now, there's scumbag ways to do that. That's scumming somebody through it, but it's like the general thing where it's like paying late fees i'm like critical it's like come like those things i'm like i just don't you know those things i don't i i those things are just like at a certain point you have you have to like you know there's a certain wrestling match but it's like you know if i've not if it's like five late fees or something like that i made a general mistake or something i'm like dude you're
Starting point is 01:27:42 gonna get that back yeah i i have crappy white guy scams, but these are my best ones, is that when you go to the movies, if you go with a bunch of guys, you buy two tickets, and then two guys go in, and one guy goes out and takes the other two tickets, and then he comes back with another person,
Starting point is 01:28:01 and then two other guys go out, or one other guy goes out with the two tickets again and then you uh and then you then two other guys go out or one other guy goes out with the two tickets again and then brings another guy out so you only need to buy two tickets and you can bring in as many people as you want because one guy keeps walking out with the two ticket stubs and bringing a new guy in yeah that's like white trash like what do you make a lot of like what do you do like why don't you just be like why don't you just do it the way i do why don't you just be like i told you it's why why don't you just do it The way I do Why don't you just be like Why don't you just be like I told you it's my chance Why don't you just do this Like here's how I
Starting point is 01:28:26 Here's my version of that Which is a little bit more Like overt and not sneaky I'm being like Changing the price tags on shirts Sir you can't bring any outside Like I'll bring like Whatever the fuck I want to eat
Starting point is 01:28:35 Into the movie theater Because dude I can't stand Like I hate buying shit at airports I hate movie theater popcorn It's like You're fucking me Because you can't You hoof it
Starting point is 01:28:42 It's like so I'm like I know I'm I'm like yeah Justin hoofs a full bag of microwave popcorn up his ass. I'm just going to bring a sandwich in because they're like, sir, you can't bring it outside. Sandwich to a movie? Whatever it is. I'd love to go to the movies with you. Because if I'm real, I eat healthy.
Starting point is 01:28:56 So that's the thing. So if I'm hungry, I'm going to eat that. I'm wrapping a sandwich. Whatever it is. So I'm like, I'll bring whatever I want in the movie. They go, sir, you can't bring any outside food. I'm like, okay. First of all, I'm like, I'll bring whatever I want in the movie theater. They go, sir, you can't bring any outside food. I'm like, okay. First of all, I'm like, I'm diabetic.
Starting point is 01:29:07 You want to have like this argument and then I can't. You want to be with your manager right now? Or can I just keep talking about this? That's the energy. Like you want tickets for a living, motherfucker. Like I'll bring whatever I want in the movie theater. Always be asking to speak to the manager. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Guys, this is going to wrap this up. So the reason, you know, and I already mentioned this, but me and Justin will be in Rhode Island and that is, what's the date again?
Starting point is 01:29:30 It is September 17th. That is a Thursday at 8 p.m. It is the Comedy Connection in Rhode Island. It's probably, it's one of the most fun clubs in the country. The guys who own it are awesome.
Starting point is 01:29:41 It is indoors and they do such a good job at making sure that they space the seating out so it's all socially distanced. It's going to be at, like, 30% capacity. But I did it last month with Big Jay Ogerson, and it was the most fun I had doing comedy since the quarantine started because it feels like a legit, real, great fucking normal comedy club time. And you don't have to worry about, like, oh, my God, is it going to be okay? They do a great job at making sure that everybody's safe.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Everybody's wearing masks. They do the whole thing. You don't wear masks at your table, do you? No, you don't. You don't. All right, good. But you're like, it's socially distanced. It's enough social distance where people feel comfortable.
Starting point is 01:30:15 The drinks are great. It's a fucking good time, man. Also, even if it wasn't, don't be a bitch. Just come anyway. Yeah. But yeah, so we're there. And you can buy the tickets at what comedy the comedy connection you can get them well you can get them either do you have them on your website
Starting point is 01:30:29 i'll put i'll put them up all right so you get them at ryan log's website you get to get at mine at i am justin silver uh is my social media and then it's i am justin silver.com or you can just go to the comedy connection and get tickets there but and me and ryan will be posting swipe ups um we'll be posting swipe ups throughout the week. And if you just go on either one of our social media pages, you also see the flyer for that as well. Yeah. Check that out. I got a new video coming out Monday. It might be the, I have a pretty, I have a pretty good idea that I'm not sure if I'm going to do,
Starting point is 01:30:58 cause it's really a lot. So there's very possible that this Monday is going to be a video that gets people pretty mad. We're going to see. And this has been the boys cast. Boys, boys, boys, boys, boys.

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