The Boyscast with Ryan Long - Top Exercise Scientist on Obesity, Who's on Gear, & Which Health Fads are BS

Episode Date: March 8, 2024

Dr. Mike Israetel joins the Boys to discuss Cold plunges, what happened to the World’s Strongest Man competition, and getting ripped to battle childhood demons. SUPPORT THE BOYS PATREON.COM/THEBOYS...CAST  SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS! Butcherbox - Go to http://butcherbox.com/boyscast and enter code BOYSCAST for $20 off your order AG1 - Go to http://drinkag1.com/boyscast for $20 off and a free 1-year supply of vitamin D and 5 AG1 travel packs Factor - Go to http://factormeals.com/boyscast50 and use code BOYSCAST50 to get 50% off your order FÜM - Go to http://tryfum.com/boyscast and use code BOYSCAST for 10% off your order ON TOUR: Baltimore: March 15-16, DC: March 17, Calgary: March 8/9, March 17:Boston: March 23, Winnipeg: April 4-6, Atlanta: April 12/13, San Diego: April 19/20, Houston: May 5, Austin: May 3/4, New Zealand: July 24, Australia: July 25-August 1st SUPPORT THE BOYSCAST:  https://www.patreon.com/theboyscast http://ryanlongcomedy.com Ryan @ryanlongcomedy Danny @dannyjokes LEAVE US A FIVE STAR REVIEW! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to the Trauma Cast, a podcast where women talk about their trauma. Now, Brandy, you actually mentioned that you had some trauma on the way here. Yeah, I was coming in on the elevator and I was bumped. That does sound traumatic. You know, to be honest, I've just dealt with so much trauma in my life that sometimes I don't realize when an event is traumatic. Now, I can sense that you're repressing the trauma associated with the bumping, but at some point you're going to have to explore that trauma in depth
Starting point is 00:00:20 if you want to feel whole again. As a child of divorce, I can attest to that. Oh my God, that must have been so f***ing traumatic. Very much so. You know, if that trauma is too fresh, I don't want it. My parents just walked in the room and said, we've been waiting for you to finish college to break the news, but here it is. Oh f***, that's traumatic.
Starting point is 00:00:34 It brought the trauma to your personal space, adding trauma to injury. Now I say that not to take away from the trauma of the bumping that took place, but to let you know I understand the traumatic implications the trauma will have. As someone who recently went through a traumatic breakup nine years ago I can say. Oh my god I didn't realize they were only nine years into dealing with the trauma of a breakup can you talk about it or is the trauma too fresh? When you spend every day with someone for weeks and then out of nowhere they just decide to stay with their husband it can have traumatic
Starting point is 00:01:00 consequences. Poor wounded soul the fact that you got out of bed this morning to come to this studio is nothing less than heroic. The boys. It's the boys' cast. The lads. It's the boys' cast. The dudes. Prepare yourselves for the boys' cast.
Starting point is 00:01:17 The bros. It's the boys' cast. The homies. It's the boys' cast. The dudes. Experiences. Always last. The boys cast The dudes The experience The boys cast The boys cast We are here at the boys cast with Dr. Mike Israetel.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Huge guest. Did I say that wrong? No, you said it pretty good. Oh, that was a look like I messed it up. It's just like I just hate myself. So I'm like, oh, that guy. A guy that big looking at you Like you messed something up You don't want that
Starting point is 00:01:46 Coming at you And for We just finished We have an episode Of the patreon.com Slash the boys cast Where we went through Everything
Starting point is 00:01:53 But So there's a whole Bunch of stuff Danny started it off Before camera Talking about gang bangs But We're well on our way
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah yeah We're all If anybody hasn't Checked it out Check out Her name's on twitter Aella A-E-L-L-A, I
Starting point is 00:02:06 believe, and she had a birthday gangbang, which she documented like a data scientist would. It's pretty fascinating stuff. In real life, the dudes that are showing up to the gangbang, you know it's not this guy. I didn't pass the STD test, to be completely honest, fellas. I stood in line for an hour. It was such fucking bullshit. That's what I said. She has it's such fucking bullshit well that's what i
Starting point is 00:02:25 said she has it all mapped out and she's like 1600 applied and it got whittled down to 40 43 so it was tough to get through it's not like i'm sure a lot of creepy dudes apply and then they didn't just they didn't even get to that like you know how bad it is if you don't get to the std test she's like i don't even care if like we're not even doing it would be good to sign your buddy up for that and then send him over thinking he's doing something else you tell your friends the shit like it's a college application like still waiting on that gangbang email to come through i filled out the whole thing a really good picture i just really hope i get chosen hey i mean i'm sure there was a bunch of guys like guys probably like 44 to 60 who were just like on the bubble
Starting point is 00:03:03 who were like man i feel like kind of slighted you're gonna have to show us something special i should have been in that yeah and you know what it probably is tough because those guys probably i can't imagine it was a massive drop off there like they probably could have made it easily unless they had stds unless they had do you think do you think she sent out like formal collegiate style rejection letters like i bet you she did doctor like the dates i'm like i get excited there's a fucking letterhead i'm like no no she baby i honestly bet you she did like she's she's wild with the stuff and then you start reading letters like we regret to inform you oh fuck fuck fuck i just burn the whole you have to go to your like uh backup bang
Starting point is 00:03:37 gang bang actually you know what that was one of my questions to be honest because okay right now i feel like so are you a it's um exercise scientist is the technique something like that technically sport scientist but like this is like details no one gives a shit about slash eye rolls over yeah whatever sweet so are you more of a scientist or is it like a yeah are you like a doctor doctor what's like what's like it's like asking uh no offense right it's all jokes all jokes yeah how many podcasts okay all right here we go it's like asking it's like mist's all jokes All jokes Comedy podcast Okay Alright here we go It's like asking It's like mistaking A porn star for a prostitute
Starting point is 00:04:08 Like bitch You get fucked for money Shut the fuck up Same thing Sure Is Okay so is porn As bad for men
Starting point is 00:04:15 As people say Because I feel like That's like one of the Hot things right now That everyone talks about That's really pertinent To my degree Muscle fiber types
Starting point is 00:04:23 Limb ratios How porn affects men, typical curriculum. Okay, what about for porn on testosterone? In general, don't you find that so many things you could find right now, you could find an article or a guy on the internet that agrees with whatever you think?
Starting point is 00:04:36 If you're like, this food's good, this food's good, this workout's good, this workout's good, porn's actually not bad for you. You could find pretty much anything on the internet right now that agrees with you. So it's almost like, with the food stuff you it is you could find pretty much anything on the internet right now that agrees with you so it's almost like with the food stuff sometimes i just give up totally giving up is just a good life thing to do yeah um i can answer that question the porn one thing yeah how bad do you think it is for you the vast majority of people something like 95 percent of men have a have either not much of a relationship with porn or a totally healthy
Starting point is 00:05:05 relationship with porn that's very well balanced like 95 of people have with almost everything but when you have something like five percent of people really going down the fucking drain and just getting completely out of control with it and it kind of starts to hurt them addiction style yeah those are the people look five percent of a population of 150 male Americans, only 100 million of them are adults. In any case, it's a fuckload of people. Yeah. So there's going to be millions of people on the internet, quite literally, being like,
Starting point is 00:05:31 porn fucking destroyed my life, dude. My fucking wife left me. I can't see my kids anymore. And it's a real story. I guess that's the internet in general, because edge cases, there's enough of them to always have a big conglomerate. How many people go on the internet to tell people that porn fucked them up a ton because they want to fucking talk about it? How many people go on the internet to tell people that porn fucked him up a ton because they want to fucking talk about it how many people go on the internet to be like that
Starting point is 00:05:47 porn's cool whatever like your fellas real talk not anyone wants to hear this i fucking jack off to porn i do it like what up baby hey i'm out here you feel me and they never say no these bitches because they're on videotape and they can't talk to me uh but like you know like i fucking jack off to porn i do it a few times a week or whatever and it's like fine like i fucking jack off i jizz and no no joke hey like a week or whatever, and it's fine. I fucking jack off. I jizz. No joke. Honestly, though, I think people, I don't know what the fuck. These addicts, I don't know what they get out of fucking porn, right?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Because I'm with my wife or whatever. I'm fucking not. I'm like, ugh, ugh, like the fucking real deal. Everything shakes and shit. If you have. I'm fucking, real quick, real quick. I jack off in my fucking hand with my VR goggles on for porn, and I'm like, ugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:23 VR goggles on. I'm like, how do you get addicted to porn? It's just not that great. I fucking jizz porn and i'm like oh yeah how do you get addicted to porn it's just not that great i like i fucking jizz and i'm like time to take a shower go to sleep and be pathetic again like it's not exactly some addictive shit but i guess some guys i guess some people just yeah is it bad does it affect testosterone or anything like that like if you like i know aren't there like some athletes who will like not jack off yeah like because they're like or whatever no fat yeah like no but like wasn't the like there's somewhere they're like like boxers and fighters yeah they're like leading
Starting point is 00:06:48 up to a fight they're like they won't do it the formal research on that is mixed mixed results which means we just don't know yeah some people i would say generally from an experiential perspective uh it's it's cool to pull back on your fucking just uh jizzing in any capacity a few days to a week before a big athletic event because generally, you know, like after you fucking, if you haven't nutted in a while, you're walking down
Starting point is 00:07:09 New York City streets thinking, what the fuck, everyone's going to fucking get up, fuck the world. But sometimes you're like just irritated, right? Irritated,
Starting point is 00:07:14 but you want to be irritable before an athletic event because that's that nervous energy that's going to give you power. If you are super fucking like, if you get the blowjob of your life right before you have to do a hundred meter dash,
Starting point is 00:07:23 you're like, man, fuck that. What about when he gives the blowjob of his life right before you have to do a hundred meter dash you're like man what have you been fuck that what about when he gives the blowjob of his life i'm firing on all cylinders i want to fucking suck a guy's dick right before i win the gold um well look if if it's a hugely physical task for you to suck someone's dick like i i can tell by the way you look like you go you put your whole body into it yeah and then don't do it guilty as charged is it really a crime though uh and then if that it. And then don't do it. Guiltiest charge. Is it really a crime, though?
Starting point is 00:07:46 And then if that's the case, definitely don't do strenuous sexual activity a few days before a very important kind of athletic event because you have to literally save your energy. And there's some testosterone stuff, but it's plus or minus. I would say the more you ejaculate on a regular basis, the lower your sperm count is by a long shot,
Starting point is 00:08:08 which is where you see one of the reasons since the 1950 1950s or whatever male sperm counts have been going that's the reason you think you don't think it's related to other stuff it may very well be related to other stuff it's unclear what other stuff it's related to but it's definitely related to ejaculatory frequency oh yeah so motherfuckers just jacking off i mean you have you have to think people are just doing it less or less before like i mean like what are you gonna way more now i'm gonna get a playboy see yeah you're like page three like in the in the 60s like i didn't make that connection yeah you gotta use your imagination yeah fuck that well what about a mental thing because i feel like a lot of times the from a physical perspective yes you don't want to be... There might be some benefits. But from a mental perspective, like in a game like basketball where it's very mental, maybe that wouldn't be good to be pent up.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It's definitely true. I think it's a case-by-case, individual-by-individual situation. Yeah, weightlifting's a little more... And I guess with basketball, they play 82 games, so I guess you can't... You would just never be jacking off. Well, also, basketball players are fucking animals. The fuck are you talking about? They're out there getting fucking STDs left and right and trying to not jack off.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yeah, they've got all the bunnies waiting for them outside. Whoa, if I'm a pro basketball player, I'm trying to get AIDS, because I might as well, like, try to get it. I might as well, like, you know, it's an accident. I'm the real Magic Johnson. 100%, baby. Sure. Except I don't need all that treatment.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I need the real shit, girl. Although, hey, real talk, though. I don't know the answer to this. Did Magic Johnson... I'm going to be as polite as possible. Yeah. Did he get his AIDS from a nice lady or a nice man? I think it was a couple nice men.
Starting point is 00:09:30 At the same time. That's what Shay Shay says. I don't know. He was on that sub stack, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it depends who you ask. The TV show that was just the winning time or whatever on HBO. That was a very good show, actually.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It just got canceled. What an endorsement. Yeah, yeah. No, it was really good. time or whatever on hbo that was a very good show actually it just got canceled but uh what an endorsement yeah no it was really good it just it was one of those shows where you could tell the budget to make it was like insane so it just kind of they're like they did they did two seasons they're like we can't keep going unless this show is like way bigger but i think in the show they make it out that it was from women because he was just like a crazy sexaholic like i mean he was well the odds of a straight guy getting aids from sex is like insanely low yeah there is a stat that national geographic posted back in the day where they said
Starting point is 00:10:11 a straight white man getting aids is statistically impossible oh yeah isn't that crazy statistically impossible i would never in a million years say so national geographic was saying what fuck national fuck whoever the editor was i'm smarter i'm dr mike no wait wait i'm having a panic attack again uh it is highly unlikely also another fun fact that we probably shouldn't be saying out loud this is not a joke this is for real yeah last i checked your probability of getting aids from person from a woman who you have vaginal sex with who has confirmed and currently eating her alive aids is uh if you do it with no condom is one out of 343 so like you could fuck 342 straight up and like yeah i guess still like roughly a one-to-one chance you get it yeah so so that's kind of like i always thought based on the
Starting point is 00:10:58 way like we're all roughly the same age i guess we came up in school bro you they told you you sniffed aids you're gonna fucking die you look someone with AIDS, you're for sure dead. You get your dick out, you're done. Don't you remember the Eddie Murphy, the delirious? Oh, yeah. You go play tennis with the guy. You just drop dead the next day. Yeah, you shake his hand, get some AIDS on it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, fuck yeah. So when I learned that it was exceedingly unlikely, still my Ashkenazi Judaism was like, hi, I'm never having sex without a condom, hi. But, you know, because I actually, I use condoms i'm never having sex without a condom hi but uh you know because i actually i use condoms when i jack off too i can't be too safe all right well good to know so is uh so i know that the big reason people do the nofap is one of them is the testosterone but i feel like is testosterone like what's the age that it really starts to dip
Starting point is 00:11:44 because i feel like uh i know chris williamson who just did his podcast he's been talking a lot about how he just doubled his tea and he said it was like changed the game for him do you take tea and stuff like that i'm not supposed to be talking about that why is that why can't you talk about that uh well i'm i'm kidding uh i also put this i thought that was like in the game that's like stealing jokes it's a hippo requirement stealing jokes stealing jokes is all good plus i'm jewish our idea of what stealing is intellectually it's like that i found advice um it's a it's loaned i'll give you i'll get you get it back to you get the joke back to you um
Starting point is 00:12:20 i have previously been also politically correct, on a significant amount of enhancement. So the amount of testosterone that's in my body is like 10 times the normal amount a man's supposed to have. So the residual effects from steroids? Yes, I injected earlier this morning. Oh, just coursing through your veins. And is it noticeable in your things like energy and things like that? So when you're taking attempt at serious bodybuilding doses like I am, you feel every fucking milligram of that shit because it's way too much. It's like being on a thousand mg of caffeine.
Starting point is 00:12:55 You do it in the ass, the shots? Don't you worry about where I do it. Where do my butlers inject my steroids? I do it in the quads usually. Front of the leg. I can't really reach around to my ass anymore. I haven't wiped in years. Bidet man? Nope.
Starting point is 00:13:13 When you're jacked enough, people just deal with it. Yeah, I smell. Fuck you. Someone comes around and they go, actually I smell. Sorry. My mistake. I'm like, you're welcome. Please proceed. My buddy just takes it it he's like 45 and
Starting point is 00:13:26 he just just shots like i don't know a couple times a week and he was like his game changer but then he says he got super jacked from it but then he says it makes your hair fall out so you have to take hair pills and then the hair pills make your dick not work so you have to take pills and then before you know it you're on like 50 things just to balance it out i abandoned the hair game a long time ago yeah i started balding when I was like eight or some shit. Well, one of the main things for me is like, I feel like probably around 35, I got a little bit, just in general,
Starting point is 00:13:56 I started to feel a little bit tireder. And then there has been speculation that I have long COVID. That's the other speculation. Oh, Jesus Christ. What is this, a leftist show? Is long COVID fake? No, I don't know. You know, not up to a date my my it's official we can pretty much treat this covid like the flu here's the guide wall street journal so they finally came out super reputable yeah so i think uh i'm not aware of the
Starting point is 00:14:15 literature on long covid currently i do know that it's likely that long covid is a thing that affects some people i also know that it's probably exaggerated by an order of magnitude by the kind of insane leftists to think that we should shut down the entire economy again until kovat's totally gone but no offense i know you motherfuckers are all like hillary clinton supporting and shit yeah big big hillary i'm like if donald trump couldn't run for presidency i'd do it instead with his identical platform i would change my face to look like his that's how fucking far right i am i'm kidding i'm kidding or am i hey man you're not gonna find too many people watching this who are upset about that but i hope not no i don't think 35 to 40 is generally when a lot of guys
Starting point is 00:14:51 get what has been labeled informally as andropause it's like menopause but for dudes so you get yeah you just your testosterone production 35 40 ish yeah it's kind of like but the reason is just so you're not like a sex crazy lunatic for your entire life, right? Thank fucking God. I don't want to feel like I've been to my 20s. Isn't that kind of the deal? And riskiness, probably. Oh my God, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah. But anyway, yeah, it definitely happens that if you have the symptoms of low testosterone, of which there are quite a few, if you do get testosterone replacement therapy and it puts you back into the normal or normal high range, then you can feel substantially better. I have a few friends who are in TRT and it just like changes their lives night and day. What's the other ways to do it if you don't want to take TRT? If your life is substantially fucked in the sense of you don't get enough sleep and you don't eat well and you don't train properly and your stress is super high. Sleep's a big one. You can reduce, yeah, sleep, increase sleep, decrease stress, lift weights, do some cardio,
Starting point is 00:15:45 lose some body fat, eat well. Most of those things are going to rocket your testosterone into the moon if it's already low because of those things.
Starting point is 00:15:52 But if you have pretty much everything squared away and you're living a pretty good normal life, there's absolutely dick you can do about increasing your testosterone.
Starting point is 00:15:59 There's tons of pills and shit you can take. They're all fucking fake. They don't do shit. Or they're real, but they're fucking steroids and they're not that healthy for you long term.
Starting point is 00:16:05 So just go see your doctor, get testosterone prescription and you'll be right as rain. But you have to shoot drugs into your body at least once a week for really the rest of your life. Because once you stop,
Starting point is 00:16:14 it's just like regret. Yeah, you're not to take a permanent day off. So they're like, fuck that. We're not producing shit. Some people, roughly half of all people
Starting point is 00:16:21 get significant testicular atrophy. So when you're like, not a bitch, he's like, I like balls. I smile. Shut up, bitch shut up bitch or you know that's what i usually have the opposite problem of that it's too big man you need to get on trt now to get them back fucking down if anything that's a win-win the problem is it's not the ball it's the other stuff in the ball like it's the stuff beside the ball there's just a lot of head cut excuse me i basically have a lot of extra
Starting point is 00:16:46 stuff in my sack the actual balls are minuscule this is a scientific uh diagnosis you need medical attention i tried to get something inside of it the doctors i went to get a uh surgery and then the doctor said it didn't really take and he was like also it's not it's basically not the end of the world so whatever it's not didn't take you're like well cut it out he's like it kind of bit me back no they basically put they put a piece of copper in your stomach that stops the blood from like going into that area and then my blood just broke the damn dude you're the man your balls are so big surgery couldn't help you yeah you need to talk to it it's not the biggest that's a pickup line probably the biggest problem with it is if you're fucking soft it makes your dick look smaller because you have a big ball
Starting point is 00:17:28 and you have to tell the girls dude here's the thing i gotta rant on this really quick if it's okay yeah of course yes sir your dick soft is so fucking irrelevant i know once a bitch sees my soft dick i had to close that dumb bitch game over you're at the hotel with me you're tied up you're fucking screaming crowd that's my usual way to do it uh and who gives a shit like my boyfriend's in the closet with the camera you know what i'm saying yeah uh but it's it's uh you know like either i get hard or i just politely excuse myself and probably leave you tied up in the bed right but it's trippy like when guys are like tripping over the how small their soft dick is i'm like who's judging that motherfucker you do get judged judged though. By who? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Dudes. All the boys you're showing. I want to be able to go to a locker room and be like the fucking king. You know? Ridiculous. I see where this is going. Most nudists are probably like guys that are really like into being nudist. It's probably that they're You know what who actually tagged me yesterday
Starting point is 00:18:22 on Twitter is remember the bro guy who was doing like the weird bro jacking off stuff that we covered the ball. Yeah, the ball dude with the beard. There's this guy who does these like he says it's not a gay thing, but of course, it's just like a bunch of dudes jacking off with each other. But it's like all like a spiritual thing. And then he tagged me. It's like a yoga thing that's basically about jacking off. And it's essentially a bunch of dudes get on a zoom session and jack off together and he's like telling you that there's
Starting point is 00:18:47 all these huge benefits of it to carry away on that to quote to quote ice tea from law and order i got news for you that means you're gay yeah 100 i got news thing i've ever heard yeah gay watch first it's like we just jack off together. A couple sessions in, they're going to be like, we can help each other. I'm not going to touch your dick, but I can fucking tickle your asshole a little bit for you. I honestly think that is what's going on, too.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Because he tagged me yesterday, and then I clicked on his Twitter and his profile. And one, it says he has an OnlyFans, so obviously doing gay stuff. And then it seemed pretty there is a certain fraction of out there in there eventually if you get in close enough uh there's a certain fraction of gay dudes that to them nothing beats converting straight meat they want sure our friend is like that our friend jj is literally that's that's the pinnacle is zero success but it's a tough game yeah because
Starting point is 00:19:43 the guys are literally telling you i'm not into it and you're like that's it we're in like well the ones that you find and they you convince them to do it they were gay a little you gotta catch them a couple things financially desperate young newly in new york city oh gee whiz mister i'm from iowa and i don't know how this works oh is that right billy why don't you uh come in here and get this job promotion well I've never done this before shut the fuck up and then you pull your their head into your cock etc I've never done that sure but I've heard about it a lot if you were needing to yeah like you want to get that big tv production job assistant job and well your producer's gay and into straights and you're an innocent boy from Nebraska or some shit you're
Starting point is 00:20:23 getting it I mean consensually sure but you're gonna get boy from Nebraska or some shit, you're getting it. I mean, consensually, sure, but you're going to get it. Do you see Ryan Garcia's thing the last couple days? Basically, Ryan Garcia said that... He's having like a Kanye-level mental... I don't know. That's really so fun. Hey, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:39 He's just waking up to the reality of the world, maybe. Okay, here's his last tweet, just so you can... I'll say, you find it and I'll say the gist of it. He's just waking up to the reality of the world, maybe. Okay, here's his last tweet. Just so you can... I'll say, you find it, and I'll say the gist of it. He basically posted, he was on a, like a Twitter Spaces with Andrew Tate and a bunch of these other people, and he basically said he was taken by a bunch of elites
Starting point is 00:21:02 to Bohemian Grove. What the fuck is Bohemian Grove? Bohemian Grove. Oh, as if he doesn't know. Yeah, sure, pal. It's all where the global elites go. Oh, my friends! Yeah, they burn effigies of giant owls and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So you mean Burning Man? No, because Burning Man's a bunch of dirty hippies. This is like the bushes and stuff. I think it's less of burning man and more fucking boy fucking boy yeah yeah sign me up bro yeah it's like skull and he says they tied him up and then made him watch while they had sex with kids so that's hot i mean that's terrible i people like recently i've been kind of having like a coming up and getting a little bit more famous type of bullshit and people are clipping all your pedophiles no but they're not yeah but hopefully soon uh but but people are calling that congratulations on all the new success and i'm like i haven't had any and like what do you mean i'm like where's my invite to
Starting point is 00:21:51 fucking epstein's island yeah that's how you know you fucking made it and it's like hey you're a great actor have i been invited to the oscars no then you're not a fucking great actor if i don't get to epstein's island or at least one of these fucking albert you don't want it's not you don't even need the kids it would be nice to be offered is what you're saying here i'm not into kids but the offer my god it means everything yeah you just want to be invited right 100 yeah this is history from two hours ago they actually have the files of jesus the ark of the covenant the giants the clones the aliens files on everything they're the ones that let me in played they ass i got i got it so he's losing his he's losing he's really losing it well he did his spaces and he's like they basically they is unclear but he's like they took me to the thing and he's like they
Starting point is 00:22:28 watched me like are they made me watch them like rape kids and stuff and it's really just like i i doubt they brought ryan garcia you heard it from danny didn't happen oh what are they paying you to cover this up you heard it here first gaslight whatever it is it's not enough i'm'm going to be doing a podcast without the Jews after this where we're going to get to the real deal. You don't want us around. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:22:50 You know what? I actually, I actually, one of the biggest things when we're talking, like just back to the tea thing is that I really, really have trouble sleeping now
Starting point is 00:22:58 and it's gotten worse and worse and worse and worse and I tried the sleep packs and I feel like everything I try, it like kind of works for two days then my brain figures out how to beat it and then it doesn't work and even like i tried like ambient and stuff and it kind of i basically will take ambient and then sort of works but then i feel like the sleep is worse and then also i wake up like at yeah groggy as fuck wake up groggy and randomly at like six or something and can't get back to sleep.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I don't know. And I've honestly been working out and stuff. I don't know if you have any tips on that. Like, what do you do when you're, and it's just basically you just like lie there and think, you know, go through, think of everything. And I guess stress is one, but. I think it's probably childhood demons in your case.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Like all those little boys you raped when you were coming up. You thought you made like squared away in your head. That's coming back up. But if not i mean like sleep problems can have multiple factors contributing to them so i would just make a checklist of possible things and just go down and like even your room might be too warm it could be that simple like turn your room down to really cold really dark it does help a bit yeah white noise can help i don't need to be racial brown and black noises are totally welcome sure whatever that is um set side yeah that's fucked up the only racial
Starting point is 00:24:13 humor i'll touch is jews get the whole fucking deal for me yeah and then because my wife's asian and asians take jokes super fucking well asians get 90 of my offensive humor okay but uh other other groups of people, I'm like, hello. I mean, you like to have a business and a career and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, the cancel culture
Starting point is 00:24:29 is not as bad as it was a few years ago, but I'm not trying to test the fucking horse. Is there cancel culture in, like, did it come from your industry? They tried. They tried? Was there a reckoning in bodybuilding where you guys all just, like, fuck off?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Are they still doing the thing where they don't tan their face? Is that over? Because I saw, because you were at the Arnold Classic, right? And then I saw some of the photos and it looks like they're back to doing the face. Some, I don't think. The no face was weird.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I think that had nothing to do with race whatsoever. I thought it was just a racial sensitivity thing. No, absolutely not. I haven't seen a single bodybuilder call up blackface when we're talking about tanning your face. I've never heard that a single fucking time. Well, maybe the bodybuilders weren't calling it out, but then why don't they tan their face?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Some guys just get lazy, or some guys just don't want that shit on their face because they judge your physique. They don't give a fuck about your face. Oh. If you're interested in the best possible stage presentation, your face should roughly match your body. So those guys are making a mistake.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It's weird, yeah. It looks a little strange. It looks super weird because it gets so tanned. So tanned, and then you're like white-facing. It's kind of offensive because you're like, whiteness is so important. I't want to well i think they're just doing well i think i i always read it as they were worried that someone's gonna be like hey that's too close to blackface no no no yeah you've been telling people that well that's how i heard
Starting point is 00:25:35 on joe rogan's podcast i have nothing to say about blackface that won't get won't not get me canceled i'm just gonna shut the fuck because all your opinions are how sick it is? Isn't that the good opinion to have that people want? Johnny, get the shoe polish. No. Holy shit. That happened. Fuck it, let's lean in. Yeah, no, I was wondering, because I remember that was like a whole thing, but I guess they're
Starting point is 00:25:56 done with that. Was Arnold a hero? To me? Yeah. Do you like Arnold? What do you mean, was? He's still around, motherfucker. He's still jacked. Well, in the game. But game but yeah him as a guy i'm still a hero uh yeah arnold is god what is he so
Starting point is 00:26:12 he's what i just looked him up he's 76 because i they always talk about i remember well like when i was uh a kid there was that uh raiders player remember and he was like took so much steroids and then he died and he was like it was because of that but it seems like arnold's 76 he seems like he's doing great lila alzado exactly yeah lila alzado but it seems like uh you know arnold's doing great because they always say there's like all these long-term health effects but he obviously was on it doing stuff like that and then he seems great yeah arnold did not do a lot of steroids by modern standards uh. Stop doing a lot of them early. And mostly if you do it like Arnold did, you can pay a very small cost long-term health-wise. There's a bit of a variability element where some people will take a crap
Starting point is 00:26:53 load and be totally fine. Some people will take a little bit and get fucking liver cancer. And you're like, oh, that sucks. Genetics fucked you in the ass. So you're really rolling the dice. But on average,
Starting point is 00:27:01 the long-term effects of steroids are quite negative and do reduce your lifespan and do all kinds of other bad stuff. what what are the biggest things that it messes up they probably reduce your intelligence at least while you're on them and probably in some ways uh for some time after you're actually why does it reduce your intelligence it's neurotoxic it actually destroys some of your neurons yeah oh yeah at high you have 10 times the amount of dose you're supposed to have of anything it gets fucking neurotoxic yeah it's like if you uh put gasoline like into your gas tank and then spray it on the steering wheel and shit too you're like fuck because that's like a big like segment of tiktok and stuff is all these people like the trend twins and all that stuff they're like yeah
Starting point is 00:27:36 and they're just kind of just putting as much as they possibly can and they do seem pretty dumb so i think they were dumb to begin with no offense offense, trend twins. It's just how you come off on podcasts and everything else. Every one of your interactions. Do you think The Rock's juicing? I would put my entire net worth behind that. So that's a guarantee. Because I'm a scientist, asshole, Jew, humorless autist, statistically I have to say there is no such thing as a guarantee
Starting point is 00:28:01 in probability estimates. But the probability of it is very high, exceedingly high. I mean, he looks better now than he did 20 years ago. So on the one hand, yeah, for sure. And so he also, he has scars from gynecomastia removal surgery on his nipples, which is some shit that happens. You know, on gear, you get gyne, little bitch tits. I think they're hot.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I love it on guys. I mean, girls. You guys know when there's like a pit bull like a pit bull mommy like a dog and she's yeah and she's got little bitch tits like that's not that's hot right yeah like when you go when you go to like a island country normally they're kind of they're on the streets and stuff and i'm like i'm not like a dog guy but that's fucking hot bitch has like eight titties and shit what's up girl um girl? It's just you. Okay. What do you think the biggest thing that dudes screw up right now, like that are, you know, kind of 25 to 40, like whether that be like eating.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Meeting the wrong woman. Next question. Is that it? I'm kidding. Sorry, please finish your question. My wife's in the other room. That is the, legitimately socially, that is probably the number one thing you can the number one that is the number one dude any if you look at a guy that's in his 30s where it's like his life's a mess like some people say there's a woman to blame and it actually and generally generally uh some kind of fucking
Starting point is 00:29:20 humorless cunt in the back that's the most thing that like most things you could probably come back from like you could screw up your life pretty bad and come back from if you you know have two kids with some woman who lives somewhere weird and you know yeah it's screwing up the kids like you could that's the one thing that you're like i have this enormous problem that will never leave the kids thing especially man like because you could be with a fucked up bitch but when you're done you get out yeah you might follow you and try to kill you but whatever yeah that's fine but yeah 18 years man fuck fuck right that's that's 18 years i would just abandon my family fuck these dumbass kids they basically raise themselves nowadays just get on my youtube subscription and the youtube premium you're a star now kid yeah influencer from age two that's healthy yeah yeah that's you were asking what uh
Starting point is 00:30:07 what's fucking up men from age 25 to 40 yeah like what would be the biggest thing you would change you know what i mean where you go everyone's doing this wrong oh like what is your big prescription for people gee whiz um you know i'm a libertarian politically so i'm like yeah you're good but do whatever you want like crazy plans for society and shit although a giant mechanical octopus that encircles half the earth would be nice to see um the one i own exclusively of course um a jew owning a giant octopus strange it's not it's like the analogy comes to life um i think that people could be good about training in ways that are economical and effective
Starting point is 00:30:48 a lot of guys train in really dumb ass ways a lot of people have stated goals of like I want to look hot and feel good and then they're training you look at it and you're like why are you still doing power cleans from high school football you dumb motherfucker what's a power clean? exactly
Starting point is 00:31:01 it's like when you pick the weight up off the ground and you put it on your shoulders like all athletically and you grunt and you have like a jockstrap and it's sweating. You go back in the locker room. The guys are like, nice workout. They slap your ass. But one of the guys holds it there for a little too long. You go, come on, Frank. Let's go in the back.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Showers. Eight dudes. Data science. Twitter. And we're in. Yeah. There you go. Just like working out in a way that's conducive to your goals.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Because it turns out that training for hypertrophy like muscle growth is what most people want because they'll say like yeah i want to get strong you're like does getting strong give you fucking pussy and they're like no so what do you actually want they're like i want to have fucking pecs that are square so the fucking bitch at the club is like oh my god like what's wrong with your pecs can i touch them and then you're in yeah and so there's ways to train for that which like my company rp happens to specialize in which just make it like a very seamless fucking process. Most guys can train two to four times a week Eat well in a normal fucking way
Starting point is 00:31:51 That's some psychotic fucking diet where you like cut out half your nutrients and they're gonna look and feel fucking pretty amazing for all Those years it's just about knowing what to do properly It's like you're trying to fix your car and you don't know what the fuck's going on and any auto mechanic can be like Let me show you how to do this This has been established for a long time how to fucking fix this problem You're just like i'm just trying to fix your car and you don't know what the fuck's going on and any auto mechanic can be like let me show you how to do this this has been established for a long time how to fucking fix this problem you're just like i'm just trying to do this myself a lot of guys just go on fucking google or whatever and they're like go on youtube and like let me see how andrew tate says to work out like andrew tate could probably teach you really well how to like run a bulgarian escort
Starting point is 00:32:18 service of women who are trapped against their will working out probably not his number one specialty so yeah just economy of effort would be a thing a lot of people get wrong i always try to do the thing yeah because i always try to like cram it into 45 minutes and i usually do the one where uh you kind of never stop because you keep like switching muscles is that a bad idea or a good idea fine that's why doesn't everyone do that why does anyone wait when you can just do another thing if you are trying to get ultimate size and ultimate strength you have to rest between sets because your body has to recover to give another fucking amazing effort. But if you want general,
Starting point is 00:32:49 like your physique, I must say, as soon as I walked in here, I can say sexually attracted, but I'm overwhelmed. Sexually is beyond attract. This is peak male performance. Also your tattoos.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Say I'm like a little rebel, bad boy. Like, don't trust me ladies or do, um, that's, I'm telling you, we're going for a different demo, man.
Starting point is 00:33:05 If a girl's looking for a big jacked dude, you got the wrong guy. Weird steroid addict bitch. That's what he wants. If you want like a fucking like a Ryan Gosling physique, training with essentially almost no break between sets is fucking great. I mean, look at you. Just look at you. you look at just look at you my mind most of my there's been uh argument on this but i always my thing is always kind of like uh work pretty hard for eight months a year and then for four
Starting point is 00:33:32 months a year i sort of get chubby again and i put on 20 pounds and then i starve myself to death for like three weeks and lose it all thoughts on that are you in hollywood or some shit like that yeah kind of is cocaine involved no no basically i just eat like one meal a day for like a month and then i lose all the weight because this is my thoughts on it is that eating like a you know 400 calories less every day just seems like so hard but like when i make it a thing and i'm like kind of like no i'm just eating way less it's like easier for me to do that really hard for a month than kind of always. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:06 It's an effective strategy, but the effect you get out of it is like, you end up losing quite a bit of muscle probably, or at least not retaining the muscle you could have. So at the end of that process, you'll be just like sort of skinny and not a fat piece of shit with trim down bulk up though. Right. But like, but, but we have to train hard the entire time for that process for it to work. And that trim down part when bodybuilders do it is a 500 calorie deficit it's not a 1500 calorie deficit like you're doing so if at the end of that like cutting process a thousand calorie deficit all right whatever it
Starting point is 00:34:32 is whatever tell yourself at night before you fall asleep or don't in your case um you if you did a more fine-tuned job at the end of that cutting process you could look like a total fucking sex machine like just unbelievable like women just begging for cock type of thing right now and you're all look you're hot i'll tell you what i've never noticed i think it's in different circles but in my circles getting i found getting jacked has never had any effect on girls liking me whatsoever you're not getting well i'm not being said i've never got jacked you've been neither jacked nor laid so it's kind of irrelevant yeah that being said in my imagination i don't need it that's true i've never been jacked yet more jack but more more trim try it it's nice yeah
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Starting point is 00:38:59 yes that's one that is true yes almost futile nearly futile you ever see people who have like the fake ab implants never in real life those are why i've never i don't know if i've ever seen in real life but you see it on like the internet like these girls get like literally like or guys too guys the guys what is it i mean if they think it's silicone in most cases it's like little titties in your abs what's up girl you got eight titties i'm down if you touch the dog story earlier uh i don't know what they feel like that's the thing i haven't realized i've never you know like i've yeah i guess you don't guys before so yeah i can't imagine that's like a accepted thing at like the gym for dudes so like in bodybuilding circles you'll get laughed off stage if you have
Starting point is 00:39:38 fake abs like yeah that's technically no one will laugh at you the judges will just put you last in every division and you're right but so in it's also like so fucking pointless because if you're going to be lean everywhere else which you kind of want to be if you want like you know like the chiseled fucking face the bitch is like nobody likes like a fat bloated face and let me tell you from personal experience when i had one of those still do never got laid still don't it was the face was screwing you over the chisel face is something people like chiseled arms, everything And once that's the case Your abs should be in anyway With no training
Starting point is 00:40:06 They should have a six pack So if you need extra fucking ab meat On there You're just a lazy cocksucker Who's probably also fat everywhere else And like you're that weird guy at the club Like hey ladies look I have abs Like yeah you look like fucking Mr. Potato Head
Starting point is 00:40:17 The rest of you Get out of my face you fucking weirdo I do know a lot of guys Beer spray, mace At the same time Yeah You can buy mace outside No way Yeah but it's humiliating because
Starting point is 00:40:26 they only sell the pink ones yeah that is i was thinking that you gotta be really losing a fight to get that out of your pocket hey welcome new york city man you're not allowed to really defend yourself here so really oh shit yeah my wife and i have been uh my wife's also a jiu-jitsu person yeah so we've been every time like weird people approach us in new york city i'm just thinking of like ways i would get the entry on the fight like pop up a fight you can't if they attack you you have to run away here yeah you have to flail your arms and scream literally illegal constitution here illegal to defend yourself you guys saw that one video where that one dude got stabbed to death in front of his girlfriend a few months back uh yeah yeah of course in brooklyn yeah yeah yeah he basically
Starting point is 00:40:59 went and like they were all drunk and then he decided to double back to uh like talk to this guy who was like trying to destroy a bike clearly insane a clearly insane guy who's just like having was beating up a bicycle and the guy goes i can help this man and yes he's like an insane leftist he's like it's just a matter of misunderstanding yeah everyone's normal yeah and then um and mental illness is a myth perpetuated by the powerful and then he gets stabbed in the fucking throat the thing is i saw the video he was running away from the guy and he tripped on a park bench or whatever um like a bench for waiting for the bus and then a guy just fucking stabbed him death right on the ground yeah and like tell you what
Starting point is 00:41:32 i have no interest maybe i'll go down like that but i have no interest in doing that if i'm going down it's like i'm trying to break your fucking knee off your body yeah you don't want to be running away like you might kill me but you're gonna go to the hospital too it's probably the way to do it not you guys personally i yeah yeah i sort of like to be running away like that. You might kill me, but you're going to go to the hospital, too. That's probably the way to do it. Not you guys, personally. Yeah, yeah. I sort of like to think of myself like that, but I feel like it might not be the case. You start a high-pitched scream, and you're running away. You're like, oh, this is what you're going to do.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Honestly, I have to think my negotiating abilities. You know what? Yes, yes. They're so easy to negotiate. My friend, my friend, my friend. The insane homeless people. After Elon Musk took over Twitter, and then for a little while, the feed was just all people getting stabbed. Everything, all you would just see is all day is just people getting stabbed
Starting point is 00:42:08 and stuff and then you see people who are you know be like self-defense people and they're like yeah someone has a knife the only thing you do is run away yeah I'm taking off you know how to disarm with your hands, I can tell you no things. Seagal's my guy for sure. He's daddy. Why'd he get so fat? Because he doesn't give a fuck. Why would you give a fuck if you were already the man?
Starting point is 00:42:33 I don't know. Especially once you get into the, because it's kind of like, I feel like once you get into fitness and that's kind of like your thing, you don't leave it usually, you know? Stephen Seagal was never into fitness. He was an actor. Oh, he was pretty jacked at one point. No,'t he was just skinny he was he's like six to me he had the ideal body skinny with a little pot belly with a ponytail actually he's getting jacked for men do men like jacked dude you know how people always say that uh you're getting jacked for men
Starting point is 00:43:01 not ladies oh yeah i think the actual truth is there's probably 20% of women that love that. And then the rest of them probably, it's like once you're in shape, they don't care much more than that. Yeah, or you take it way overboard and they don't even like it anymore. Hipsters fuck like no one else. And you got skinny jeans on,
Starting point is 00:43:16 you're a little fucking pathetic, little stick pin, stick leg motherfucker, you're getting pussy left and right, man. Girls generally don't even like jacked guys. And it is for other guys, but it's also mostly just for your childhood demons to be completely honest you think so yeah fuck i mean for a personal experience fuck yeah dude i got all kinds of my demons have demons where did that start like you had you felt like you had something to prove well absolutely were you a small guy
Starting point is 00:43:35 grown up yeah so the smallness never affected me uh i didn't even know being short was something that we were supposed to be ashamed about until i didn't mean 27 no no i was i was i was always short and i was also small and thank you so much that's kind of you uh but then like um my dad really uh probably genetically as well but my dad always told me that i was really capable and strong and worthy when i was a little kid and then when i started like going to school i was like dumb as rocks i had like super crazy attention deficit disorder so i failed out of almost every class like until i was 15 years old and yeah like i was bullied i wasn't bullied any worse than anyone else but like i took the bullying really really really personally and so like their name on the wall like if i do you have a list of my yeah not
Starting point is 00:44:18 a list but if i meet some of the people and recognize that they are who they are like it could be like i'll take my nice life and just keep going but it could easily be a flip of a coin of like i'm tearing that guy's fucking leg off his body in public yeah for sure or just like really intimidating the fuck out from like neil have you awfully got that shit kicked out of you because you pushed the guy he doesn't even know who i am he's like jesus christ i was 10 yeah no so for real for real i would never do anything but no that shit stays it stayed with me anyway and i think when i started lifting weights and getting more jacked i felt like oh i feel strong i feel good i want more i want more more more than steroids started i'm crying in my room trying to inject steroids it's not working my dick doesn't stand up anymore and that's my life story dude i've sort of heard a lot of people say that one of
Starting point is 00:44:59 the things you find in the gym is community and you kind of need that one way or the other i've actually started when i go to the gym making friends with guys yeah shooting the shit with them yeah yeah then you have a spotter every time i go to the gym now i have like four guys that can spot like i've yeah i'm kind of the guy that like bops around and talks to people you're there to try to get laid in lock i legitimately will go up to guys and i'll be like what is this you're doing how do you do that yeah that's so nice that's very wholesome and everyone's pretty down to tell you too yeah everybody's down to tell you about their workout people love to tell you you can just walk around the gym getting free workout tutorials for sure well i'm like that workout guy on the internet so people see me on a plane and be like dr mike i'm like yes like let
Starting point is 00:45:36 me tell you about my workout i'm like oh jesus christ yeah you probably get bothered a lot huh it's never a bother yeah because usually i try to convert into sex But if it doesn't work, at least it's a fun conversation. So is there truth to the thing where it's like the best workout is the one you're going to do? Because I've sort of heard you talk about that a little bit where it's a lot of people will kind of – it's really like intricate of this is better and you're kind of like the one you're going to do is better for 90% of people. Depends on what results you want. It's always true that the workout you're not going to do is totally useless for you. So a categorical rule, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:08 So you have to understand like, okay, here's what I want. Results wise, here's my bandwidth. What the most I'm willing to do. How does that map one map onto the other? And you pick out the most important features that get you the furthest to your goal from the timeline that you've already got. Four days a week, I can fucking do for an hour, no more.
Starting point is 00:46:26 And I don't want fucking super intricate bullshit. So you download the RP hypertrophy app and then it just tells you what to do and you fucking do it. Great. Or you write some shit on a fucking napkin.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Great. If you want the intricate stuff, that's cool. But also a lot of the intricacies give you very, very small marginal gains where it's like an intricacy will take you from placing fifth on stage already. Everyone's jacked and lean. will take you from placing fifth on stage already
Starting point is 00:46:45 everyone's jacked and lean so are you to placing second or first that's what intricacies are for they're not worth the time of most people that just want to have like a fuckboy physique the basics work so goddamn well and they're so economical that it's probably not a good idea for you to be like yeah man it's like sets of 10 or sets of nine like you're having a schizophrenic episode i sure you're delusional it doesn't fucking matter so to keep it simple and keep it in the bandwidth big big deal a lot of people fuck that up basics is two to four times a week cut out like what is what would you cut out because i feel like everyone says like don't eat bread and then you're just like well i'm not obviously gonna not eat no bread i don't know that's fucking insane i'm fucking italian what
Starting point is 00:47:22 are you fucking kidding me we're made of fucking bread uh oh fuck i had a story for you guys after this i got i got really razzed by a waiter mater d some person at an italian new york restaurant like one of these old italian places which like the mafia eats there still this guy was a waiter and he fucking it was two hours of him like demeaning me and the rest of the people at my table he was super fucking cool too why was he why because i instantly took it at his anti-semitism what were you ordering uh dude brawl i didn't even get to order some shit he he like was he like okay like let's get you 12 chicken breasts steamed like was he like kind of that guy more or less he went around to give
Starting point is 00:47:58 people menus he started close to me he went around to the entire table before giving me my fucking menu and i was like high as fuck and like normally and especially when i'm high i'm like super jovial to the world like all peace signs so i'm like oh oh gee whiz he just he just had a certain system oh boy and then sure enough he's like rude to me and shit and i'm not a person that takes offense to shit but he like made it a fucking point and then eventually he got me what i wanted and like but he really did it he like real because i was like i want a little bit more pasta he gave me this huge bowl he's like there you go you fucking big bowl enjoy you motherfucking fucking kike you know and i was like what he didn't say that part but i knew
Starting point is 00:48:37 he felt it inside you know it's what he's fucking saying it was just so new york it was like i would never do this but i wanted to come up to his management be like he's doing a fundamentally bad job the customer is always right it's fucking 2024 this is a 1958 oh yeah dude i fucking spiked my hair blonde in the bathroom i was gonna fire his dumb ass do you do you ever just order like are you always like ordering crazy stuff like that like not always but yeah i'm more than i am an eater like a bodybuilding eater i'm also a fucking weird picky eater so if like onions touch something, I can't have it. Yeah, yeah. It's fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I'm like a child. Like a gigantic stupid child. Yeah, like right? Like caught up hot dogs and shit like that. I'm kidding. He's looking at me like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:49:15 We just did a hot dog eating competition actually. Oh, how did you do? I won, but narrowly. I can tell. He threw up. No, honestly, it wasn't like... I had a reversal. He had a reversal.
Starting point is 00:49:26 How many did you get to? He got to How many did you get? Oh yeah I got eight in ten minutes I puked on my eighth It's really gross How much did you do? I'm probably five
Starting point is 00:49:35 And that's the most I'll be It's hard Hot dogs are fundamentally Not that tasty Oh I love hot dogs No way No that wasn't the issue On my end
Starting point is 00:49:42 Yeah yeah It's just hard to get them down Ha That's what you said. Do you stretch a lot? No, because I train for a really- I've been saying that stretching's bullshit. My man.
Starting point is 00:49:52 I've had this argument with so many people. Because here's the thing. The older I am, I'm 40 now, and I do obviously, I mean, obviously the older you get, I feel like you get banged up a little easier sometimes here and there. Also, your degree of flexibility reduces as you age. Right. He used to be able to get the legs behind his head every day. Yeah, just really pin them behind the ears.
Starting point is 00:50:09 But can stretching alleviate that? Yes, stretching will enhance your flexibility. But for me, I train through such an extreme range of motion. If I squat, I'm squatting until my fucking sphincter touches the fucking ground. I do this trick. So everything you do is stretching. I can pick up a penny with my asshole. Bloop.
Starting point is 00:50:27 So everything I'm doing in the gym is basically extreme stretching. So my flexibility is totally good enough for everyday life. And the only flexibility problems I have is because physical parts of mine are too large. So, like, if I can't reach much over my head, I can't touch my own bicep on one hand because I'm just so jacked at this point. But shit's physically in the way. Oh, that's cool. You can't do that? This is literally as far hand because i'm just so jacked at this point but shit's physically in the way yeah you can't do that is it literally as far as you touch your shoulder no like i can't that's wild not anymore yeah it's all right yeah that's not even a problem so what i would say for most people is if you train in the gym through a full range of motion
Starting point is 00:50:59 uh you don't need to stretch if you like to stretch get high fucking put on some fucking yoga music stretch it fucking feels great but if you like to stretch get high put on some yoga music stretch it feels great but if you want flexibility enhancement doesn't feel great it sucks you that's why you don't like stretching i start stretching i'm like this just hurts more this yeah so but if you really like stretching you want to get more flexible amazing i think a lot of people seem to get in this holistic which a lot of people get into where they're like there's all kinds of in science that it does what it does. Right. Uh,
Starting point is 00:51:25 stretching will improve your flexibility. What else stretching does, unless it relaxes you and you like the activity, then it reduces stress. If it's just something you're doing, cause you think you have to have it. It's by no means clear. It has all these crazy benefits,
Starting point is 00:51:38 but he said people in like super big in New York city, you know, like hippie adjacent sort of like, Oh my God, like I love going off Paltrow and I drink all these fucking supplements. They'll be like, you have to stretch. And you're like, why Karen? And they're like, cause that's like for the body and like the fascicle, some fucking science
Starting point is 00:51:52 term she heard. And you're like, they're stretching is great for one thing and it's getting you more flexible. Yeah. It seems like a lot of people that have too much time on their hands. I actually had a negative stretching thing where I was, uh, when I was like running and then I had like a hip flexor, I was, when I was running and then I had a hip flexor. My hip flexor was a little tight.
Starting point is 00:52:08 So then I was really stretching it out and then I basically overstretched it and made it worse. Yeah, totally. Yeah. It's too much. But it felt so good to stretch it out because it was tight and then I kept, I would really go really deep stretching it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:19 And then I ended up making it so much, I went to a PT and he's like, yeah, you made it worse by stretching. You're Jewish, right? Unfortunately, yeah. Yeah, same here. I say kind of saved you all that if I was your PT it was like oh but it shook right yeah yeah physical activity is just not gonna melt I like I used to train clients in New York City and a lot of them were fucking rich Jews and they're like oh my hip I've got bursitis in my knees I'm like they're like what do I do I'm like reverse time and don't be a fucking Ashkenazi Jew.
Starting point is 00:52:46 It's just designed to be fucking fragile. Like, I have friends who are 19. They're like, oh, I've got bursitis on my hip. Like,
Starting point is 00:52:51 how the fuck is that possible? Yeah. So, what about walking backwards on the treadmill? That's a big debate that we've had. Less efficient than walking forward.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Yeah. Good way to fall on your ass. Well, you know the knees over toes guy? There's a lot of guys that are pushing this as like the secret. I mean, I'll tell you,
Starting point is 00:53:05 you would have never seen it in a gym five years ago. And now, even the gym I go to in Brooklyn, you're like, oh, you go to a gym in Brooklyn? My God. Well, I live in Brooklyn. Oh, God. It's a nice gym, actually. It's pretty solid. How many hipster... Am I allowed to say sluts? Is that a...
Starting point is 00:53:21 No, it's not. Honestly, it's not really like a hipster place there are a couple there's one guy who has a haircut where it literally looks like he just grabbed uh like a like a buzzer thing and just like he does it himself and it strikes with a mullet oh my god he's like but he like cuts his own hair and like that's like his stick now kind of thing but i i don't like going to hipster gyms unless there's like fucking hipster bitches you know like like uh no offense to you because you have one of these like a little ring like that is he enough rings on your face and you're 100 giving out blowjobs i took two out that's why i used to have more you sick how many
Starting point is 00:53:53 blowjobs have you given well i took one out every time i gave one and i have one more blood retirement plan just offloading on blowjobs um i forgot your question walking backwards doesn't do anything for your knees so in a certain context with certain kinds of irritations in the knees walking backwards can get you used to certain movements and kind of strengthen certain structures that can reduce that pain but it's insanely context dependent for most people just lifting hard through a full range of motion and being generally physically active like walking around every now and again new york it's easy because you get a ton of steps doing everything is about
Starting point is 00:54:26 as good as it gets so no walking backwards is not a panacea it's it's very for very specific instances it's going to solve very specific problems other than that it's just like an insane waste of your time feels like so many things like become like that where it's like probably good for one instance and then it just becomes like a trend and somebody famous talks about it so my god like yeah one of the number one problems in fitness is people are always looking for hacks it's not so much of a problem i'm kind of like that right right right because you want a fucking hack oh um they're they're just like um people are looking for shortcuts which is dope because that's what progress is all about like why do we have all this technology because like we're tired
Starting point is 00:55:00 of fucking dealing with yaks and shit and farming. So we made technology to make it easier. And so the spirit of trying to make shit easier and get more bang for your buck, like one simple trick to fix it all. I love that spirit. That's the right spirit to have. But people end up pretending they got to that answer by just interpolating like, oh, this is a thing that works. It's like a light bulb that doesn't work. You're like, see, electricity, but it's not on.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yeah, but it does stuff. No, it doesn't. So a lot of people find hacks that are like, oh, this is it. This is fitness. Like, no, it's some dumb avocado oil you spent three times the money on it's not doing dick for you so economy of effort is awesome but like this one new thing that everyone has to be doing is almost always bullshit yeah i kind of heard uh you talk about this but it was like the idea that you had a pretty good point where it was kind of like when you look at like gurus you almost like people that are sort of you know on the internet saying they have the answers
Starting point is 00:55:48 it's almost you want to look for a guy that changed his opinion at least a couple times where he was like i was wrong because the people that are you know i was never wrong you're like that guy's probably the most wrong because no one's never wrong it's an interesting claim to make it almost certainly ensures that you're mentally ill if you say you're never wrong. Yeah, you just stick to your positions and you're just like, especially with stuff with science where it's probably like on the move, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:12 All the time, science improves its discovery. Now, some people have been right about a lot of stuff for a long time. They're not notorious for being wrong all the fucking time. But also those people tend to be scientifically literate from the beginning and they make very couched statements that don't overreach their ability to know things.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I say, we don't currently based on our understanding from the scientific literature. It seems likely that X, Y, Z is true. That's not exactly being like my whole fucking life depends on this one thing being true. It's for sure true. I'm a God. I've never been wrong. So you, you attach your, you know, uh, you know, worth to these facts. You're like, I'm the, this guy, how can I never not be the this yes well it's a curious position for mr knees over toes guy because it's called mr
Starting point is 00:56:48 knees over toes guy like god damn dude do you want to be known for any other shit and you have to have a new knee opinion like every day right how many new knee opinions are there he is so flexible though it's crazy the way he moves i think some of the stuff he does is wild i would like to see him show off his flexibility and yeah ways that please other people do you think some of that's like you know you always see these uh i've heard like critique of guys on the internet you see all these guys that have you know abs or whatever given their tutorials and you're like yeah that's a guy that would have had abs if he'd done nothing that's oftentimes the case yeah it's like they're just bodies like you know the guy who's the bicep guy had naturally the best biceps.
Starting point is 00:57:26 It's trippy because time to make it racial. Fuck it. There's like, you know, a lot of people in the... I know exactly what he's going to say and I've said it before. It's true. There are tons of people that know what they're doing and of every race. But then like when you're really good at some shit and it's
Starting point is 00:57:44 like racially you have a huge advantage, maybe it's because you're that race, and maybe you don't know things. We're talking about Asian people, right? Very close. Dude, it's like if you looked at... Well, I was thinking of black guys, because I was like- 100%. First of all, I'm always thinking-
Starting point is 00:57:57 That's why you said very close. That's not that close. Everyone's. We're all close. We're all human. Hey, right? Yeah, thank you. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:58:04 We don't have time for this fucking white supremacy that you're spewing dude when i was a kid like yes when i there's certain guys that are like really bone thin because they're kids and they almost have abs yep and then like they're black guys that are like a 60 year old jamaican man that doesn't do anything and he's got like jacked body with that and there's like a high there's a some probability that he knows things and there's like a high there's a some probability that he knows things and he can help you that there's also a probability he's just that black like especially if you get like like pure-blooded nigerians and cameroonians and shit they're just perfect they're born perfect they grow up perfect they die perfect and they're just flawless people
Starting point is 00:58:40 and they have fucking six crazy metabolisms for no fucking reason they eat mcdonald's nothing happens perfectly wild beautiful teeth and facial structure and i'm like whatever hitler was on with white supremacy clearly would never been to nigeria because he's a fucking idiot there's something they're doing something he wasn't into bodybuilding what a big nigeria guy also wasn't hitler is it true that hitler was like part jewish or some shit like that i don't think so it'd be funny though i mean that would be quite the irony, wouldn't it? If he goes, turns out he did his 23 and me. He's like, he even responds to it with his Judaism.
Starting point is 00:59:14 He's like, oh, I didn't mean that. I meant white power. It was inevitably going to get to Hitler. But one thing is curious is he was like, the ideal man is six foot two and blonde with blue eyes. Oh, he was spitting there. Right? But it's like, Hitler, they do have mirrors and you're none of those things.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah. So like when the fucking Fourth Reich really gets to doing what it's doing, like, are you on the chopping block eventually? I never really got that, to be honest. I always didn't really get it. Yeah, you would think that he would be like, has a comb over. The ideal man has a comb over. He's 5'9". Pencil.
Starting point is 00:59:47 5'9", my ass. Or whatever he was. He was like 5'4". Do you have a Google in front of you? Yeah. You guys have like a Joe Rogan. How tall was he? How tall was Hitler?
Starting point is 00:59:55 It may be difficult to get this information, but. Yeah. 5'9". 5'9". That's fucking bullshit. Good guess. These are like NBA stats. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Mark Wahlberg juicing. Exactly. Is Mark Wahlberg juicing feet don't touch the ground when he's on a fucking late night show he's adorable also fun fact if users of easily Google Mark Wahlberg has
Starting point is 01:00:14 had numerous instances in his life especially when he was younger of like insanely virulent violent racism yeah he had a thing he was the one blinded a fucking wild how the fuck is he not
Starting point is 01:00:24 canceled he almost went to jail He stopped the terrorists on 9-11 We need heroes like Mark That was his thing right He stopped them That's another thing guys like his size Kind of even faces like
Starting point is 01:00:39 You know a lot of the biggest actors are small That are male good looking Because it's easier to be good looking when you're small Is that true I think so i think this is something you tell small people to make them feel nice about well no and then the opposite so on camera like okay if you meet a guy that's like seven feet tall the i'm trying to suck his dick that you're trying to suck his dick first but then the second thing you'll notice the chances of like both his ears being symmetrical
Starting point is 01:01:03 and his nose being symmetrical is very low. He's like Lurch or something. It's fucked up. Yeah. That makes sense. I think the bigger you are, the more things become unsymmetrical. It's because a little symmetrical, a little bit is a lot on a huge guy. Orlando Bloom.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Tiny. Wonderful. Lord of the Rings guy. I think you better look. He's small. He looks fucking small in the movies. That's all I'm going to say. How tall is Orlando Bloom? i would have guessed him to be tall but you can never the thing is you can never actually tell with movies because it's just yeah 5 11 okay i don't know i'd still fucking
Starting point is 01:01:33 jesus christ like listen fellas i've said this on a lot of podcasts i may be in the conversation for one of the top 20 straightest men that has ever lived but if you were like hey go make out with orlando bloom right now you'll see me run real. Yeah, that doesn't put you in my top 20. Well, your top 20 is all fucking white supremacists. Anti-gay fucking whatever kind of people you deal with. Yeah. Is metabolism, is that, because you were saying something about metabolism before. Is there any, like, you know, people say I have fast metabolism, slow metabolism.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Most of that is accounted for by how much physical activity people generally tend to do just by existing you'll notice that some people you put them on a plane for 18 hours and they're like oh a seat and they just sit there some people are like always doing this yeah and if you're a person who's entire time lamans breathing and shit like that yeah yeah um but uh if some people are just generally more more active and that is the biggest factor for metabolism. For when people say, I have a fast metabolism, they just really move a lot more. So we all have friends that are skinny but quote-unquote eat whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:02:31 There's two major explanatory factors for that. One is you see them eat one big-ass meal and they don't eat anything else the rest of that day. But your fat ass comes home and eats another big-ass meal right after. I can't lose weight. How come Jim has abs? And the other thing is we're just more physically active. A smaller component is there absolutely is genetic variability
Starting point is 01:02:46 in terms of metabolisms. One of them, interestingly enough, this is from one of my colleagues, Rag Knuckles, who's a real super smart guy in the actual science world. Him and a colleague of his,
Starting point is 01:02:56 I think, wrote a really, really insightful article about one of the major factors for how fast your metabolism is, everything else being equal, is your organ mass and organ activity.
Starting point is 01:03:05 So if you have like your fucking liver and fucking stomach and heart are bigger than average, everyone has different sized organs, even if they're the same size person. Organs are such huge, high throughput processing facilities that they can jack up your metabolism substantially. Because they're using-
Starting point is 01:03:18 Because they're doing shit. Like the rest of you is kind of just fucking sitting around. Like your muscle burns a few calories, more than fat, but not a ton. Your skin mostly just kind of sits there. Especially your fat stores are just kind of, fucking sitting around like your muscle burns a few calories more than fat but not a ton your skin mostly just kind of sits there especially your fat stores are just kind of anthracis smoking a cig so if you have a ton of fat it absolutely adds metabolic burden but not nearly as much as if you're like you have big ass liver and kidneys and shit they fucking really fire you up so a person of the same size that burns way more calories than you would think
Starting point is 01:03:39 even accounting for their activity a lot of times they just have a lot of organs how do you make your organs bigger steroids i'm not really a joke steroids are growth hormone baby right when they get so big your doctor's like you're gonna die and you're like i need this doc you start crying in his office again yeah i need to burn the calories yeah can you monitor how like when you're on like hgh or whatever like can you monitor the size of your organs with expensive scanning yeah almost nobody does it yeah just kind of at some point you realize i'm gonna die so then you put the fucking needle away that's my plan anyway that could be like a fitness trend in the future is is organ maxing Yeah, yeah, you can. Almost nobody does it. You just kind of, at some point, you realize I'm going to die, so then you put the fucking needle away. That's my plan anyway.
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Starting point is 01:07:44 Well, we have this, there's this article that just came out basically the who and the same thing the covid one where who is kind of they're they're big on coming out with like an official statement that everyone already knew four years ago sure because they said like covid's kind of like the flu and you're just like everyone's like yeah we've been doing that for years god damn it and then now they said obesity overtakes hunger is the biggest threat to the world, which essentially anyone that's been living in America,
Starting point is 01:08:10 you kind of are like, yeah, probably I thought that, right? But I think they're saying everywhere. I guess they just cured all those kids with the flies all over them.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Do you think it's because there's too many? I think they ate all the flies. They cured whatever condition that was. They did generalize poverty. Well, they did. More or less.
Starting point is 01:08:24 They pretty much abolished that level of hunger in the in the world i think which is fucking sweet it's great yeah it's amazing it's one of the greatest things that's ever happened and i want to really make put a fine point on that the fact that we're getting to a place where outside of areas with significant like current conflicts like fucking war makes famine a near guarantee in many cases yeah outside of that uh hunger is really just almost non-existent around the world at this point and serious serious malnutrition from a hypochloric condition and that is the first time in history we can say that that used to be the condition of almost everyone was like you were teetering on hunger all the
Starting point is 01:09:01 fucking time the fact that we're even like normal people like if you live everybody bro he's just a guy in ireland that had a job exactly and so now that we can say like wow we're really starting to pretty much defeat hunger holy fucking shit let's pat ourselves on the back for that there's a grandiose accomplishment that to our ancestors would seem like totally fantastic like imagine explaining your daily life someone who lived in 1750 you're like what do you do you're like i'm a fucking comic podcaster they're like what the fuck is a comic and a podcaster like it's kind of the court jester except through electrons we talk to everyone and everyone's a king i guess like so everyone lives with a standard of living of a king you're like actually way higher way higher if you're a king in 1750 you're like i have fucking cancer they're like mystery disease we'll get the
Starting point is 01:09:41 magician in here to handle that and you're like i'm gonna die for sure nowadays the doctor just zaps on everyone always talks about the king part the good thing about being a king being like all that stuff but really the good thing about being a king was you're like okay he's dead bring me some girls yeah like you still don't get those parts which are actually the best part of the jester roast joke doesn't go so great you go done yeah comedy used to be real high stakes oh very uh is it statistically true as a matter of expected value that now obesity is more net harmful to the world than hunger yes definitely but is it the same kind of moral magnitude of problem no because to solve hunger you need food to come from somewhere you don't know where it's a hard problem to end obesity
Starting point is 01:10:23 you just need to put that Snickers bar down, motherfucker. Now, it's easier said than done, but it's a much, even though it's now a bigger problem technically for how many people it toasts, it's a bit of a different problem. It's kind of like how many people die skydiving. It's a problem.
Starting point is 01:10:39 These are all human beings. They have value. They're wonderful people, but you kind of did that to yourself. So with obesity, the good news is um just barely training trailing obesity is the development of insanely powerful pharmaceutical drugs that allow you to constrain your hunger substantially and then most of us will never have to deal with obesity anymore because we'll be able to take drugs that like ozempic exactly ozempic and its related substances also they just started developing drugs with major contracts powered by ai and in about three or four years
Starting point is 01:11:10 they're going to start hitting the market and hitting late stage fda testing it's going to be a fucking unreal revolution they're going to have fucking drugs for everything that might even be able to make you good looking i'm kidding i was talking to myself i thought it was all jews really do look the same yeah it's there's four different types you still have your hair on your head which is thank you yeah i don't have are you really do you think the drugs is going to sort of solve this problem because you know there's a lot of uh you know people that have done like the docs on sugar and kind of if you kind of look at that way you're like this problem is going to get worse because you know there's worse for people who don't want to take the drugs that's for god and then people say that's basically like smoking where you know essentially they're just going to be that's going to be like for people who don't want to take the drugs. That's for God's sake. People say that's basically like smoking.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Essentially, that's going to be taboo. Whereas right now, probably is the peak where it's not taboo to be just insanely overweight. In the 50s, when your doctor would smoke in the doctor's office. Yeah, exactly. He would have ash on your pregnant belly as he was scanning it. He's like, meh. It's a healthy baby. He puts all smoke up the vagina. But it's not going to be like that.
Starting point is 01:12:02 It's not going to be, hey, we're going to, as a society, curb all this sugar stuff. It's going to be more just like, yeah, people get fat and then they take this drug that forces them to be skinny again. I think more people will start taking the drug before they get fat, like on their way to getting fat. They're like, man, I don't have to do this. Fuck this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:17 It's like the 20 pounds. Yeah. More people will do that. I think the food industry, some fractions of the food industry will make food that is very voluminous, like it fills you up. It's tasty, but it has very few calories. That food technology is always improving on that front. Right now, there's lots of access
Starting point is 01:12:34 to that kind of food for fitness folks. The big gigantic problem- Like bars and stuff like that. Totally. And healthy veggies and fruits and shit. You can't get fat eating fruits, veggies, and lean meats. I dare you. You're going to be like, fuck this.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I don't want to eat any more of the shit you'll be totally very good nutrition the number one proximate cause for obesity is that people are so goddamn wealthy and have so much access to food uh that it's around the number two cause not the wealthy people that are of the obesity by historical standards insanely wealthy that the poorest people in america are fucking kings of yesteryear. I mean, even the poorest people in America are still probably 1% global. Oh, 100%, some shit like that, exactly. But the real proximate problem after that,
Starting point is 01:13:11 the real start gateway problem is it's a question of who gives a fuck and who doesn't. If you give a fuck about how fat you are, there's a 90-some percent chance you can curb it, you can control it, you'll never get fat. You just manage your food intake, you manage your pharmaceutical intervention, you manage your training invention you manage your training no problem these are usually very cheap solutions you can just google some shit and never get fat in most cases most of the
Starting point is 01:13:32 people who are super fat in america or just moderately fat this is very politically incorrect to say but it's all jokes it's comedy right hey uh they just their requisite level of giving a fuck is below the level of which they would have it's not even on their radar they just their requisite level of giving a fuck is below the level of which they would have it's not even on their radar they just don't care that much like food look food tastes fucking great and if you're gonna pull that shit out of my hand you better have some goddamn good shit to put back into it and if you don't i still want to eat fucking tasty food they're like yeah but aren't you worried about being fat they're like yeah sure you're like worried enough to stop eating junk they're like no fuck that that's it
Starting point is 01:14:05 it just comes down to that like how come people jack off to porn because it's nice to jack off to if it wasn't i'd stop doing it and is are like the um those mpix and stuff are there any like are they bad in in any uh nope they have zero side effects and i'm sponsored by nova nordisk they definitely it's still pretty new right it's pretty new well so the drug itself actually is like 20 years old okay there's been repurposed for obesity it was because it was designed to be an anti-diabetic drug which it also does really well so i would say drugs like ozempic currently they're getting better all the time but drugs like ozempic have a suite of side effects almost all of which are just a problem with how you take the drug and how you
Starting point is 01:14:42 uh eat in relation to it it's management so it's not like oh like you just have the side effect and you're fucked forever you can't take the drug or you're gonna suffer it's literally a matter of like stop doing this one stupid thing you're doing and then you just don't have that side effect for example ozempic if you eat the same kind of if you try to eat like four slices of pizza on it and you're on a good pharmaceutical dose you're gonna have heartburn for hours you're gonna throw up you might shit fucking blood and all this other crazy shit will happen because you're not supposed to be doing that on the drug you also don't want to do that on the drug but some people just like they can eat so quick at the beginning that they're like
Starting point is 01:15:15 i'm gonna outrun this thing like no you're not it's gonna catch up so if you eat like a fucking normal person which is super easy because you're not even hungry anymore you basically get very few side effects. And for most people, it's totally fucking worth it. Can you fuck yourself over? Like, I literally know of cases where people show up to the hospital
Starting point is 01:15:32 with gastroparesis and shit, which is when your stomach is like, I'm not digesting shit anymore. Go fuck yourself. You have to pump it out. It's like frozen or whatever? It just shuts down, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:39 And they're like, you know, they ask them, like, what are you taking? They're like, well, I'm taking Ozempic at the highest possible dose. Like, interesting. You start off the highest dose. Good job, you fucking idiot. And also, they just don't give a fuck. They eat, like, Twinkies and shit. You're like, well, I'm taking Ozempic at the highest possible dose. Like interesting. You start off the highest dose. Good job. You fucking idiot. And also they just don't give a fuck. They eat like Twinkies and shit. You're not supposed to
Starting point is 01:15:48 be doing that on Ozempic. It makes digesting foods and absorbing them really slow. And you can just stop up the system if you want. Most people have that anti-hunger response where they don't do it. But some people, when you take Ozempic, you take a drug like Ozempic, I'm trying to do something about my obesity. I'm going to try to help this drug out as much as possible by eating well and maybe training a little bit to try to make this the best case scenario. But some people, they're like, this is the drug that I just take
Starting point is 01:16:13 and everything's going to be better instantly. Yeah, I just don't change anything. Yeah, but it's like getting a Lexus, like, you know, with rims and shit and you don't even get into it to drive anywhere. You're like, my car's broken. It doesn't take me places. Like, you still have to drive it, you dumb motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:16:24 So you still got to do something with these drugs and then they're super effective super safe ozempic has so many unreal health benefits it's anti-diabetic so it reverses diabetes um it's super good for all kinds of systems that you have it's good for cognition it's good for emotion regulation it actually makes you less likely to exhibit addictive traits for all addictive things that they fucking studied so far. People quit drugs when they got out on Zympic, they quit alcohol. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:48 I heard people quit smoking. Yeah. Quit smoking. And it doesn't feel like much. I had a friend who took a, we know a comic and he was basically saying like, I don't really like, like to drink.
Starting point is 01:16:55 He's like, I have to force myself. Yes. Two drinks later, you're the most bloated you've ever felt. And you're like, fuck this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Yeah. So if you do it right, it's awesome. If you do it wrong. Yeah. You'll get all kinds of side effects, but speaking the risk to reward ratio uh or reward to risk is massive for drugs like ozempic and one of the things that pisses me off the most is like there's lots of people that are anti-drug kind of as a rule that's the philosophical principle
Starting point is 01:17:17 is like yeah like you got to stay natural which is like motherfucker you sleep with air conditioning on and you when you break your leg you go to the fucking hospital There's tons of machines and fucking lab coats there The fuck are you talking about natural The naturalistic fallacy or the argument for nature The idea that natural is categorically better Is the single dumbest white bitch Karen trend ever And it's just annoying as fuck
Starting point is 01:17:37 It's fucking wrong Do what works Don't fucking drink bleach It's artificial it's bad for you That's how I beat COVID though Well you know if you inject it it works even better and it gets rid of your aids finally thanks trump uh remember trump was like doesn't bleach kill covet and they're like light or something amazing we just need like an anti-vampire serum that introduces light
Starting point is 01:17:59 into your cells you know to cure the vampirism are jews vampires some of them we don't like crosses yeah we certainly have the complexion you see a you see a guy at the fucking some fucking jew guy at a restaurant he's ordering he's like uh can i get this without garlic you're like motherfucker that's not gonna be well that's after they asked to switch tables of course yeah there's a draft here i'm gonna get coiled i feel like one of the reasons for the you know like the petersons have you know some condition and they basically were like we just eat meat and sort of cut out all the other bad things i think some people one of the reasons why maybe sometimes you people like to be natural is because you're like well i need to really know what i'm talking about
Starting point is 01:18:45 to figure out the right system otherwise i'm going to be doing it wrong and you're like in the absence of that just how about none of this stuff's in my body maybe you kind of so you sort of like settle on that is like maybe the better option than half-assing you know trying all this stuff you end up like doing all these drugs that are sort of uh you know, making it worse. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, some people are taking it. So you can minimize the, like, probability of doing something that's making it worse by just staying out of the game. Sure.
Starting point is 01:19:12 If you really have a nasty condition, that the Petersons seem to have some kind of really nasty allergic situation with most food. And then, like, what you're talking about, Jordan Peterson. Yeah, with the carnivore. Man, this is a comedy podcast, right? It's all jokes, right? Yeah. By visual analysis alone, there's not a goddamn thing wrong with Michaela Peterson.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Holy fucking shit. I'm a married man. What's up, girl? You feel me? I mean, you know what I'm saying? Again, I'm married, but what's up? She likes the meat diet. We're looking for it.
Starting point is 01:19:41 You know what I'm saying, girl? I don't have a lot of meat. But my wife and I, we do the threesome thing every now and again. I got to be honest about that. Yeah? How do you find the guy? Usually Craigslist. And we don't want to know his name.
Starting point is 01:19:55 We don't want ID. We just want an in-there raw dog. If he's homeless, it's better. Come in. Put on the clown outfit and the black vest. I want it to feel dangerous. Sure. That's what we do.
Starting point is 01:20:03 It would definitely be dangerous for him, man. You show up to be that third and you walk out my wife's also jacked he's like jesus christ it's like um why is she wearing a strap on with spikes on it we're like welcome definitely you know you're gonna have a gift mask i mean yes that's one of the masks i put on during what we call the charade it lasts eight hours i feel like guys like you must almost get in less fights because there has to be less guys picking fights with you when you're that big.
Starting point is 01:20:27 I've had that happen a few times since I've become jacked. Where also- Gets you out of a situation. I've been doing jujitsu a long time and the way you look at people in the street, like eye to eye,
Starting point is 01:20:38 and they can tell you're interested in fighting them if they started it versus you're scared. Because that's how a lot of confrontations with like pieces of shit who are antisocial. Like don't get into fights it's fucking insane i don't ever bully anyone it's fucking insane but there's people in the world that will try to have their way and they'll try to fight you if you don't want to you know like just out in the street not
Starting point is 01:20:55 bodega or some shit and they're looking for signs of you being a pussy and they're all automatic like they're on your face and i've had that happen a few times people meet me and they turn around like this and i'm like i just look at them. I do like Russia face. I'm like, hello. And they're like, it seems like that guy is too interested in this. Also, what the fuck happened to his head? If I punch him, maybe my fist will break. And so, yeah, it's highly unlikely I'll be getting in any fights because of this whole deal.
Starting point is 01:21:16 But I desperately want to. Do any bodybuilders do that carnivore diet? No. Fuck no. Fuck no. No. Almost all bodybuilders do that carnivore diet? No. Fuck no. Fuck no. No. Almost all bodybuilders do the same thing. They do high carbs, moderate to low fats, high protein.
Starting point is 01:21:29 And as the show is coming up, they cut their fats really low. And then if needed, they cut their carbs. That's it. That's 95% of all bodybuilding diets. It's just the most effective way to look like a bodybuilder. The problem with carnivore is carbohydrates give you a fuckload of energy. And they fill your muscles up with glycogen, which makes you look poofy and full. And they help you grow and retain more muscle. They're just fucking wonderful. And if
Starting point is 01:21:47 you have a medical condition like Dr. Peterson does, absolutely. You should try carnivore. If that helps by all means, fucking please. But unless you have a severe medical condition, there's no good reason to cut out carbohydrates. Also fruits and vegetables are carbohydrate. Holy fucking shit. Do the carnivore people have lost their fucking minds? Which is like humans are not designed to eat plants bullshit. And're like yeah man plants are bad for you what the fuck are you talking about dude fruits and veggies and whole grains if you look at the amount of scientific studies on them that say they're good for you it's like an infinity and like is there a context in which you can eat carnivore and sort of get away with it sure
Starting point is 01:22:17 but like why limit yourself and they're all people have to turn everything into a religion it's an extremist religion they're like fucking i only i what is that like the lion diet or some i eat like a lion shut the up no you don't you're not a lion you a little who just eats meat pathetically you hear that liver king called out liver king i'll take a shot at that title any day he was the most obvious one because i'm not like i don't know this stuff that well but it's like well i know that the red skin and bulging like that is a natural that's trenbolone acetate that is extra help is that what that is what's i mean i don't know exactly if that's the case it's a little beyond trt tren is a drug initially designed for cattle um and it's been a human tried a few times but it's very bad for you and it gives you something that's colloquially called a trend tan
Starting point is 01:23:04 which is like it just gives you really red skin mostly because it increases your blood pressure substantially but for other mechanisms too and liver king had a fucking glorious trend tan i mean the guy's fucking red he's red and he's probably color correcting himself to be less red too yeah one would think yeah yeah that's that's pretty crazy yeah the liver king thing with his and didn't he have like what was it when they get like the distended abs or whatever did he have that yeah like whatever like your abs get so big they like bald like was it palumboism or palumboism yeah that's from like taking a shitload of gear yeah yeah where you're like you have like the abs like stick out it's true because both of my parents look like hobbits and they both have little pot
Starting point is 01:23:42 bellies so so do i even when i'm stage lean i can puff it out and make it a pot belly and then pull it in and it's like a super six pack and i'm like god fuck you for this i could easily see if i was a bodybuilder and i started doing gear i would be an extremist about it i could see i could see myself like getting into that culture if you know what i mean because i'd just be like that that i am about everything else right taking the most gear. You can see it. I could see that that'd be fun, but you can probably just can't do that forever.
Starting point is 01:24:09 It also feels miserable at some point. Like when you take enough gear, you're frustrated all the time. You're anxious all the time. You're angry all the time. And it just feels like total shit. You're extra confrontational. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:18 It's like roid rage essentially. It's like, it's real. Roid rage is a spectrum. It's not like you're normal and you freak out. You're just always kind of on edge. And the more gear you take, the more on edge you are it's fucking awful you're just like constantly irritated constantly do you see that thing with uh we talked about a couple of weeks ago with the steroid olympics that peter teal wants to do yes i'm actually um tmi i suppose i can't say much about this but um we're trying to get involved in
Starting point is 01:24:42 some capacity with that interesting yeah at least in a promotional capacity i think it's i've been saying this for fucking years i was the only person in grad school debating 20 other people in my class about how we have to have an untested olympics if you really want to test olympics because the incentive to cheat massively declines if you have an alternative categories for example in bodybuilding and powerlifting there's a tested division an untested division or tested federations and untested. The tested one, they're like, hey, don't do drugs. We'll test for them.
Starting point is 01:25:08 In the untested, they're like, welcome and do whatever you want. And the fraction of people cheating at natural bodybuilding is tiny compared to the fraction that cheats at the Olympics. Because at the Olympics, first of all, the Chinese are all on shit anyway. And so are all of your competitors. So, like, you don't have to cheat to do your best but like it makes sense and if you know everyone else is cheating it's not actually immoral anymore in a large sense so a lot of people at the olympics even ones that didn't want to take steroids and shit they end up cheating because it's quote-unquote what it takes to win like they did a statistical analysis a while back on the tour de france you
Starting point is 01:25:42 know the fucking bicycle racing that's armstrong stuff and they realized that to get like to get down to a 50 50 chance of someone not being on gear they would have to be ranked 700 or below what yeah so like everyone above rank 700 is 51 or higher probability that they're on fucking gear so but it's drug tested right they just like the incentive they have the fake and the whole the whole thing so they have systems on top of systems because the incentive to win is massive and there is an alternative the enhanced olympics can be like look if you want to do this great also people get what they here's the fucking problem it's hard to compare to bodybuilding because in bodybuilding you're like well they're two different they're almost two different competitions because the gear is like going for a different body you know
Starting point is 01:26:20 what i mean totally whereas like in running it's like they're the exact same thing but one gear one not totally so who would want to who would be like a top guy why would you want to be in the gear race if the if the non-gear race is like where the money is and stuff like that that's a very very excellent point i'll say it this way i love the idea that they're coming up with the enhanced olympics because we're really going to find out what people want to see a lot of people will say, hey, I want to fucking see Barry Bonds fucking break a baseball bat. Whoa. And then the same time, like, I don't fuck.
Starting point is 01:26:51 I fucking hate steroids. It's a fucking easy way out. You dumb asshole. You want the rocket to go a million miles an hour, but you don't like the explosion sound. Really? Same with the people who don't want fighting and hockey now. 100%.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Like, really? That's the only reason hockey is this fucking spectator sport. It's UFC light, right? But we'll find out what people really want when we have both. If you have people breaking psychotic records
Starting point is 01:27:13 in these fucking enhanced games, then it'll become the main one. Maybe. So it's really a bet on if this just becomes, yeah, I see what you're saying. Totally. Freedom.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Let the competition. And there's this assumption, I guess what you're saying is that there's people or some of them are doing it anyways they might just be these super advanced programs where it's not detectable like lynn's armstrong they only got him retroactively totally right and then they also found out that everybody else was also dope totally
Starting point is 01:27:34 the the interesting thing about that is you can crank up the penalty so i'm a huge fan of fucking like letting people do what they want and take gear and do whatever i'm also a huge fan of not cheating in sport um so i really like the idea that once there is an enhanced version of the olympics the regular version can put the fucking hammer down on cheating holy fucking shit you fail one test lifetime ban right now they do these fucking dumb ass bans where it's like nine months and then they fucking juice up for eight of those months get back into the testing pool last month like oh i've somehow gotten better and everything and i'm drug free it's like you motherfucker that's a thing that happens and it's because the olympic committee doesn't want to like ban people forever that that's cruel right but like no worries if you get fucking popped for drugs in the future in the
Starting point is 01:28:17 tested version that's okay your career is not over just go just go have fun with your friends in the untested version like well i don't want to take that many steroids like You're a cheating asshole, so go fuck yourself You can really just yeah, and that'll clean up to a significant extent It'll clean up the regular Olympics a ton because if you want an outlet go do your thing The other thing is you can test for the only pertinent thing the people actually give a show about with downside with performance enhancing is health Hopefully the enhanced Olympics has a thing where the way you get- It's more above board. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:48 You get approval. They do a CT scan or whatever. They do a fucking calcium score. They do whatever fucking blood shit. And they're like, if you seem to be healthy, you're approved to compete in the next game. If you show up and your blood is like a fucking soup can kind of consistency, then they're like, you can't compete.
Starting point is 01:29:01 They're like, yeah, but nope, you're not healthy. If you're healthy and you're taking gear, who gives a shit? Compete. compete enjoy you understand the trade-offs long-term if you're unhealthy go fuck yourself So right now it's kind of this weird system I mean if you play in the NFL like you're making even if you're not doing anything You're like you are making these long-term trade-offs for your health Like you see these guys like hobbled walking around because they're like, yeah I didn't do anything illegal or against the rules You're just like I just play a violent sport
Starting point is 01:29:24 I guess the argument against it would be like, and we don't want to make that worse. Yeah, I suppose. It's going to be bad anyway. If we make it public, we can at least see what the health ramifications are.
Starting point is 01:29:35 And then potentially, if it's destigmatized, we can make the drugs better. The last real innovations with steroids were like generations ago. They just stopped developing the drugs. There's no reason for steroids to be bad for
Starting point is 01:29:45 you they can engineer all that out there's just no fucking incentive because it's illegal and it's a guy in a lab and a drug exactly like the big pharmaceutical companies who could make these things healthy they don't touch them because there's no fucking market it's legal literally like are they working on a version of cocaine that works for 18 hours straight and doesn't have a fucking addictive cycle no because cocaine's fucking illegal there's nobody working on that shit but if it was legal like you would see over time all pharmaceutical drugs tend to improve like blood pressure medications are totally legal they're on their like eighth generation or some shit right now it's a solved problem there is no reason for you to ever have high blood pressure the medications now there's 10 different classes
Starting point is 01:30:22 they'll find a class for you that has essentially zero side effects and it just brings down your blood pressure and they're like yeah because some people don't like pills like yeah but i'm trying to come off all my meds i'm like why like yeah because you know like it's medicine like yeah but why you don't try to come off food and come off air the fuck is wrong with you so drugs can be made very very impressive low side effect profile and super effective over time but if if it's illegal and immoral nobody works on that shit like nowadays with weed being legal and shit in a lot of places oh my fucking god bro there's so much unbelievable choice in weed it's all lab tested it's all exactly the dose that you want it's all like cbd enhanced it's all this other wonderful shit back in the fucking 90s used to buy fucking detroit rags like you know jamal would give you some shit that he
Starting point is 01:31:01 said was weed and he had a gun on him so he didn't argue back. And then maybe you got high, maybe you didn't. And maybe it was fucking meth and enhanced and whatever. Or some shit. So fuck all that. Yeah. Keeping things illegal and keeping them immoral means that they kind of are an assessed pool of underdevelopment. And then it fucking blows. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:31:18 That would be crazy if they started developing steroids and stuff like that. Right? That would be awesome. Yeah. Why did the Strongman Olympics, why don't you see that that anymore remember that used to be the like everywhere world's strongest man buddy like remember the guy used to hold the daggers and then uh i used to be everywhere and then it sort of feels like it went away and it was sort of a white guy dominated sport in a little bit the white boys were doing okay and that you have to bring that up because
Starting point is 01:31:45 he sort of he's always saying that white boys aren't the best and this stuff like that and i said i don't like to talk about those things but oh we still we've still got well jews aren't white so we're in a different are we not jews can't be doing good in the strong man oh my bank who's the top jewish bodybuilder i don't even want to talk about it what there's a couple there's a couple fucking arnold's the opposite yeah i hate these people austrian you know his dad was like a nazi yeah fine yeah everyone's dad was a nazi back in the day but he like fought and stuff like yeah you had to fight yeah you had to they weren't exactly inviting you to go to the uh they call them patriots but one germany no wait sorry i said that wrong uh yeah i don't know world's strongest man is still a competition yeah it still occurs all the time it's just not on espn as often or
Starting point is 01:32:32 whatever but i'm still cooking oh yeah still cooking they lost their t big tv contract to be everywhere there's a few big tv contracts but there's still around and actually uh just uh had i was on the youtube channel of the current world world strongest man that'd be fun to go to that yeah i can connect you he can be here and sit down with you and that shit is like are these all like these viking dudes the thing about the current guy he's he's canadian so he's like oddly polite you know we're both canadian he oh are you serious yeah oh god can we uh i made a huge mistake um oh yeah you guys will be perfect for your fucking podcast uh canadian guys taking it though i know so he's like only 330 ish pounds which means by straw man size he's actually like 100 pounds underweight some of the real
Starting point is 01:33:19 other top guys he's just has some kind of magic uh that he's just fucking better and you look at him and you're like of course he's fucking ultra strong you look at his competition you're like these people might eat you and he just fucking beats all of them it's wild he's the fucking man he is like the second coming how do guys like that train like are they they train a lot like bodybuilders but they also will do sets of three to six reps heavy and they'll also train in the implements which means like the stones they'll pick up the stones and training and shit like they actually train in the a lot of it's just like holding weird stuff yep the boulder and the fucking log yeah it's like all like awkward things that you just super heavy you just have to hold that's my nightmare man
Starting point is 01:33:56 having to do that garbage you really find out how much man strength you have when it's a fucking rock yeah and someone's like hey see that big ass rock you're like yeah pick it up you're like fuck that i don't have straps i don't have fucking handles you pussy get out of here a real world just fucking grabs the shit it's fucking wild some of the some of the shit the guys can do a couple years back they're the stone loading but it wasn't the round stones it was just fucking natural rocks of various sizes and one dude like picked up a 350 pound natural rock and put it onto a platform my height if you can do that that's so crazy you're so fucking strong to get them like it's crazy these people oh excuse me a lot of times they're like six foot seven yeah isn't
Starting point is 01:34:38 like the game of thrones that's that's exactly he is a former world's strongest man yeah and that the fucking new guy uh mitchell hooper he beat that guy i don't understand how you do that but he did it's just wild strong man i think i'm big and strong but i'm a short king i'm five foot six and like i weigh like 240 which strong men don't even like notice you know the t-rex doesn't see you unless you move strong men don't notice you unless you're big boys or some shit and like there's levels to this at like one of these are like the olympia mr olympia competition the arnold classic the strongmen are there and the bodybuilders are there and bodybuilders everywhere they're like field jacked and everyone's like oh my god what a freak you see a real world strongest man competitor you're like what the fuck is that it's it's unnerving and you
Starting point is 01:35:16 don't give a fuck who you are if you're a dude your asshole clenches at least just a little bit because if he wants it he's getting strength true it's like all and i feel like so many people always say like grip strength is the one thing that starts to lose as you're you know getting too old or you know you know is that true i don't know there's some truth to it yeah but the like the it's it's like these awkward grip strength sort of feats where it's like that's it's probably not like okay if you take the strongest guy it's like okay he can lift four times more than you i feel like on the grip strength thing you're like no his grip strength is like 25 times better than yours or like you can't even compete in the same event because you
Starting point is 01:35:52 can't do anything you can't even do any of this do one rep and he could do 20 and you're like i'm infinitely weaker yeah well they're like hold the swords they'll just be like i can't pick this up they're like you're fucked yeah yeah how do they not get those guys and like try to convert them to be like offensive linemen or anything in the NFL? That's a really good question. Because you want, it seems like they have everything set up.
Starting point is 01:36:10 It's a different kind of guy. I guess. I'm just saying it's the wrong color. They're not Pacific Islander. They're not black. No, there's a lot of different colors. That's what I meant by a different type of guy. Offensive linemen are everything.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Corn fed Nebraska white boys. I can actually answer that question because I am in fact a sports scientist. Isn't that nice? We don't have to speculate anymore i love it um it football is is may is it may not look sometimes is an insanely high skill game and almost everyone who plays football at a high level started when they were a child because for that shit to be automatic and fluid and efficient against the best in the world they can't just take you when you're 25 and be like yeah we'll teach you how to push people like you're gonna get done real dirty yeah like you don't know that just sidesteps you and
Starting point is 01:36:47 oh my god yeah another thing is speed is much more preferable in football than strength and those guys have to be fast you're like the fastest for a big guy fastest for a big strong guy versus strongest for a big strong guy is a little bit of a separation yeah at the nfl level it counts the guys we actually on our YouTube channel, we just trained a guy who used to be a D lineman for the Patriots when they won a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Satema Ghali, he's a pure-blooded Samoan, which is what he says, Samoan. Yeah, those guys are monsters. I thought he was the rock when we went into the gym.
Starting point is 01:37:19 He's 6'4", 310 pounds, but he's a fucking 48-year-old man. And I'm like, what the fuck what the fuck he's just better he's bigger his hands are bigger his feet are bigger everything's bigger and he's like some like like under five second 40 time weighing 310 you don't want that much human being coming at you and he's athletic and he's fast and he knows things one does not simply but on the other
Starting point is 01:37:42 hand if you take him and put him into world's strongest man they used to do that in the 80s they'd have the best guys from the nfl they would they would pluck guys oh my god they would just shit the bed immediately because they're like i can't lift that at all they're like well that's actually there's going to be 100 there's specialization so to your point like it sure shit looks like you could yeah if you took like uh hofdor bjornson the guy who's gonna get the game of thrones. If you, instead of raising him in Iceland, you raised him in the United States. There's a very high probability that he would be playing high level football at some point in his life. But it takes a long time. We were just actually in Europe.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Because he's obviously in Scandinavia. They have these big dudes. But is it the food that cranks out? Because I sometimes think these offensive linemen sized guys. It's exclusively genetic. Yeah, dude. I always go to some of those places. think like these offensive linemen genetic size guys it's exclusively genetic yeah dude i always go to some of those but like i'm saying the amount the amount of them in in the u.s relative to i
Starting point is 01:38:30 feel like exclusively generic yeah dude some you go to some of those places there there's uh people that are like oh i need my wife to be big so my son will be big like they think like that sweet that's cool i it hurts me a little when you see top strong men, obviously all jokes, but top strong men who are massive, who they're like, oh, meet my wife. And she's like four foot 11. That's my wife's height. No offense. And you're like, you're right.
Starting point is 01:38:52 So the legacy ends here, huh? I'm five six, right? If my wife and I make children, there's a little tiny half Jew, half Filipino babies, whatever. Rob Schneider. Fine. But you have a chance to make a goddess or a god, and you pick some fucking regular. What are you doing? What are you doing, pal?
Starting point is 01:39:06 Come here, uggo, seven-foot-tall bitch. You are gambling, though, because if you get a girl and she ends up being six-five and enormous, it's not the best. You're kind of banking on the fact that it's a guy. No, why not? Why isn't it the best? I don't know. It's not the best to be six-foot-six and you're a chick. Correction, if you're really fucking great at doming people and your fetish game is on point you will beat down so many
Starting point is 01:39:29 millions of dollars that from yeah from age there's money to be made and from little kid status you're like you give her a toy to play with it's like beat up the pathetic wall street ceo toy she's like what the fuck is this like that's for later for later. Yeah. Dude, I actually, like the way you were sort of describing that, I've always sort of said that about like in comedy, there's a lot of people that are like super funny that aren't comedians and they'll kind of be like, oh, I'm funnier than that guy. And I'm like, yeah, maybe. But it's basically like the same as if you were an athlete that ended up playing football and you're like, oh, I'm a better athlete than that guy.
Starting point is 01:40:01 You're like, yeah, but you can't skate. You can't play hockey. You're like, yeah, you might be a better athlete than the guy but this is a different thing and it takes seven years to become like just adequate at yes and they're like well i'm funny that guy was like well will you do that that's and you're already late in the game so it's like a lot of it is that it's exactly my situation actually because lately since i've been like opening up more on fucking youtube and shit people are like oh my god you're so funny which i super appreciate right but they're like you should do a stand-up like people saying that for like a
Starting point is 01:40:26 while now and i'm like i don't have a fucking stack of material also i'll just shit my pants i'll walk on stage you're like so guys have dicks right am i right and everyone's like it's also hard to just be like a like a late you know uh in a in the midst of your career busy and then you're like oh uh just also the people when they started this they were just like living in a house with five dudes and doing this non-stop for seven days a week you know eight nine hours a day but i think that same as hockey right like when you're or any sport you're like yeah they were five years old like this is the whole thing so it is hard to like switch over dude you don't see a lot of it totally they they know shit they don't even know
Starting point is 01:41:02 even though they're the best athlete 100% the other thing is like I usually that's a good way to put it they know stuff they don't even know right it's totally subconscious shit you know when you're 5 when I
Starting point is 01:41:11 my wife and I went a little while back to a local comedy show we live in the Detroit area which is we just like the sound of gunshots so that's why we live there but
Starting point is 01:41:17 you're from there? Detroit stinks I mean I'm from Russia technically like I was born in Russia originally yeah yeah him too total dicks you're for real?
Starting point is 01:41:24 no no my parents were what I mean born there but your last name in russian actually means multiple uh pike fish i didn't know that really yeah shuka is what does that mean you come from fishermen no actually you know what this dude andreas told me he said pike with a p or a k uh both in this case both apply i did say p but he's also okay with a k no he told me it was like some like uh swamp people or something like that's actually anti-jew literally he like told me that who told you that uh andreas exertus or whatever he was like because he's not fucking german uh he's some no i think he's a croatian or something but he's a cool guy but he, but he's a cool guy.
Starting point is 01:42:05 But he told me, he's like, yeah, like he's randomly sent me like the etymology. And then I show my parents and my parents like, we've never seen this before. But then I went and looked it up and like, it was,
Starting point is 01:42:13 it was legit. It's like some sort of Polish swamp. Did you ever like go like to like a fucking marsh or a swamp? It feels like, it feels so good. I didn't know. I love it. I love it.
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Starting point is 01:42:24 I love it. I love it. I love it. I pulled out a fish with my teeth. It figures that Jews are fucking swampy. Buddy, I had a, because my last name is Long and I left my credit card at the place the other day and I called
Starting point is 01:42:30 and the guy picked up the phone and he goes, he was like, oh, Ryan Long. He's like, the lady must be lucky with a name like that. And I was just like,
Starting point is 01:42:37 what? Yes, I have a huge penis. Freak says that. I love it. I would totally say that. Mr. Long, your limousine awaits and i was like anyways do you have the card is this yeah that's great so weirdo there was an article in the wall
Starting point is 01:42:52 street journal and says uh no sorry this was not wall street journal but it says the kellogg ceos criticized after saying cereal for dinner and basically kellogg's is going hard trying to get everyone to eat cereal for every meal uh and part of it's because you know the economy's bad or whatever but is it tell him tell him me and danny are both economists as well yeah i mean in certain measures but in certain measures it's not i mean when i justify my total lack of tipping entirely that's often what i'll say they're like you forgot to tip in this economy i mean i did buy a coffee uh next door at the hotel yesterday and it was a just a drip coffee in black and it was 8 50 why'd you buy that because i was hanging out what are you doing because i was literally hanging out in their
Starting point is 01:43:42 lobby for free because i was I'd say call the cops. Well, I was hanging out in the lobby because he was recording something here and I was nearby. The shark got. So no. And then I was like, I want a coffee because I'm hanging out. I was doing work in their lobby, which is a great hack, by the way. Just in New York City. If you need somewhere to chill, just walk into any hotel lobby.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Yeah, but you don't look like me. They just kick me out immediately. You're clearly Russian and criminal. I feel like it's the opposite though who would ever want to kick you out the doorman they would go and go kick that guy out he looks safe for now the thing is new york city they have so many like super busy hotels where they have no idea you almost got your crappy hack provoked by paying eight dollars but you were there for the the free free 50 50-50. I felt like I was good. And also, I'm like, I'll be back. But the problem was, there was no pricing anywhere.
Starting point is 01:44:30 So then I just go get a coffee. That's so fucking rich people annoying. Yeah. And then I was like, I just assumed it'd be like $5 or something. So anyways. $8 is crazy, man. I'd fight the guy. Joe Biden's America, you know?
Starting point is 01:44:41 I tell you what, man. Back when Trump was president, things were better. Now we're talking. Weird bald eagles come out of nowhere and shit. Well, we've sort of had this argument because I don't think the cereals that, you know, the ones with all the oats and stuff like that aren't bad for you. And he basically says you're having cake for breakfast. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:44:58 I'm talking about like, you know, if you have parents who give their kids Lucky Charms. He's backtracking now. He said it on every cereal. No, Lucky Charms for breakfast. You're like, that is a deconstructed piece of cake essentially i got it so when did you start realizing you're a racist against the irish exactly that's his people i hate the irish were you gonna allow this we were just we were just there we were just in ireland what's wrong with me fucking lucky charms you fucking cunt i mean that's really kind of shit scottish or
Starting point is 01:45:22 whatever no sorry the trick is british the one one trick, and I have to figure out hard tricks because I'm so bad at accents, but Irish is higher, Scottish is lower. That's what you do. Oh, you fucking fuck. And then go lower for Scottish. Oh, you fucking fuck. Yeah. Look, Breck, you can eat anything, anytime that you want. As long as your overall daily calories are roughly where you need them to be and you're
Starting point is 01:45:46 consuming mostly nutritious foods. You can get you some Lucky Charms for dinner. Is it a good idea? Always? Probably not. Is it sometimes cool? Yeah, man. And also, Mr. CEO of Kellogg's, if you by some small chance hear this, what's up?
Starting point is 01:46:01 You got money and I'm trying to rep the brand. You feel me? You could be the Kellogg's breakfast guy. Fuck yeah, the kellogg's breakfast guy like he's not always for pedophilia i've had this argument with so many people where they're just like it's not about calories it's why you're eating blah blah and i i don't get how it can't just be calories in calories out nonsense by the right everyone they all everyone tries to justify that it's not just calories in calories out i feel like so it's not just calories and calories out for your body weight absolutely for your overall health because you can be like there's plenty of weight yeah that's what i'm saying there's plenty of really sick people that
Starting point is 01:46:32 are well if you eat pizza every day and mcdonald's right exactly but the calories are the biggest part of the puzzle for health and for how you look and then of course eat better than not people want that not to be true but it is totally the other thing is like if you eat sort of like 70% quote unquote good stuff, which is like fruits, veggies, whole grains, healthy fats, lean proteins, you can do fucking good stuff, right? The shit everyone knows is good. If it's like 70% that and the 30% that's bullshit you keep within your daily calorie constraint, you can have fuck all anything.
Starting point is 01:46:59 Fucking ravioli, fucking you take ravioli and you put it in your Lucky Charms, put a crack rock in there mix it up smoke the whole thing ow what about skipping breakfast that's that's my big thing that out of all the things of like uh you know trying to stay healthy to me that's the one trend that i felt like actually was kind of uh working good because it's like it just seems not that hard to wake up and you kind of don't eat for a few hours. You haven't eaten already for eight hours.
Starting point is 01:47:31 So some people they need breakfast to feel energetic and mentally to be on their A-game. Is that true? Yeah, absolutely. What's the reason for that? Why do different brains react differently? Why wouldn't that just change if they didn't do it for a month? Their body would get used to it. What's the reason for that why do why do different brains react differently like why wouldn't that just change if they didn't do it for a month like their their body would get used to it like
Starting point is 01:47:47 what's the reason for that the brain prefers glucose as the as the number one fuel and the best way to get glucose into your bloodstream is to eat a high carbohydrate meal what's the alternative if your brain doesn't need glucose why do some brains runs on ketones everyone brain prefers glucose no brain needs glucose they can run on alternatives some people when they're running on alternatives for a variety of reasons like wow this feels great some people like this feels okay and some people like fuck this get me a carbohydrate or somebody's getting stabbed in the fucking face and you can't change that you can't change it on the margins but a lot of a lot of it has like a genetic settling point we're like you can make it better but it's
Starting point is 01:48:21 never going to be like so maybe i've been arguing with someone and we're like both right about ourselves exactly there's so much personal preference in nutrition like try not eating breakfast for a while or eating make a lighter breakfast seeing if it makes you feel great if it doesn't make you feel good continue to eat a normal high volume breakfast me personally i fucking hate eating high volume breakfast i just want to go the fuck back to sleep i don't understand how people do like sausage and eggs and a fucking scramble dude i eat enough yeah we went speaking we were in ireland we got we went to this place and i got like an irish breakfast and it was like the most insane meal fuck that it was crazy there's so much shit on there there's like nine different
Starting point is 01:48:52 types of meats and there was like so much salt and you're supposed to be like starting off on a healthy foot for the day you're like what do i just not eat the rest of the day fuck that yeah so for some people they don't like breakfast other people it works great i would say try both and see how it goes yeah people love that dogma, bro. People want just one fucking answer. So it's no breakfast, right? Well, some people, yes. Some people, no.
Starting point is 01:49:09 And they're like, it's just not a satisfying answer for a lot of people. It seems like a lot of stuff is you just kind of have to just literally test it for yourself. Yeah. Like for whatever. Fasting, you see that as the same as fasting because he's been sort of selling that pretty hard. No, you're not a big fast eater. No? No, I'm kidding. I was hoping you were you i would have loved if he was like that's so
Starting point is 01:49:29 i mean there is some weird stuff like when you love that you do get this crazy like mental clarity after a period of time but i think that's like is that like a literal like a hunting response correct yeah slight enhancement of your fight or flight it's actually a higher stress response but you'll find that you're mentally the clearest when you're just a little bit stressed like alert yeah some people get that when you eat lots of food there's a postprandial after ingestion response it turns up your parasympathetic nervous system which is the opposite of the fight or flight nervous system it chills you the fuck out it's like a big ass blunt hit for your nervous system you're like ah you don't have a big fasting is no no no after you eat a bunch of it's like like
Starting point is 01:50:04 thanksgiving thanksgiving effect right yeah and some people eat so much dog shit and eat the wrong foods for them and eat too much food and they eat few meals through the day that they end up feeling that all the time so when you get them to fast they finally feel like keen and they're like oh this is great and they think this is what i should be feeling like normally that you can get there through fasting and that's totally cool it has some downsides like you're not going to get the most jack you could be um but if you just eat smaller meals maybe four meals a day instead of two maybe eat better foods that are slow digesting don't stuff yourself you may get the best combination of all those there's no like magic
Starting point is 01:50:37 thing you don't think that happens after the three four days fuck no fuck no no but like will you like see if you do a fast for people say that though yeah you do get used to the shit after three or four days and you kind of get um through that food withdrawal phase and then it's much more easy to coast but all of those people categorically they fall off the wagon sooner or later yeah and then it's just a rough process i would like people just eat a little bit healthier maybe two meals a day maybe four but just consistently eat good stuff occasionally eat some bullshit so there's not these huge peaks and valleys to their shit i hate when people are like yeah man fasting i'm on a fucking health kick i love health i'm fucking all about health
Starting point is 01:51:12 and then two days later they're like yeah i've been to the buffet three times today and you're like what the fuck is wrong with you now you're talking to him big buffet the vegas all you can eat buffet that has the pasta you get to go back all day long. Oh, yeah. The buffet pass. The buffet of buffets. I've never heard of this. What's the buffet pass? Oh, yeah, bro. It's the ultimate fat guy move.
Starting point is 01:51:30 What have you been doing in Vegas? We were just actually talking about the place on Fremont Street where you weigh yourself, the heart attack. Yes. You got to be 350. Yeah. It's where you eat free. You eat free if you're over 350 pounds, which they must not be pumped if one of those strong
Starting point is 01:51:44 men dude shows up because you're like, it's not for you. You just lost the restaurant. Well, it's just like it's for people who are like sickly obese. Sorry, you're not fat enough and pathetic enough. You can't eat here. Oh, it's an insane move. Yeah. Can you like, is fasting bad?
Starting point is 01:51:59 Like, were you on, say, if you shook him right now? No, no, I have questions. I have questions. If you do it for like, you know, 24 hours. Shake and hours not stirred will you lose any like appreciable amount of like muscle mass just for 24 hours yeah like is it like a day of fasting well is that bad for competitive athletes no no for regular people no we don't have totally fine yeah but also the upsides of fasting for 24 hours is a question mark right do you think that like okay you know how um every like people say that you know stress can be like one of the biggest things and then also being on your phone all day
Starting point is 01:52:31 and like sort of the combination of all these bad things that are like forced into our lives and it's very hard to get away from okay they sort of uh it really feels like it's hard to get away from so everyone's solutions are like ways to do less of it but i also feel like i have a and maybe i just feel like this but also stuff like working out and running like sort of negates the effects of it or do you think like do you think that uh some of this stuff where people say it's the biggest problem like for example just looking at your phone all day or like the dopamine of all that stuff like going to the gym somewhat like resets the effects of those or is that or do you think
Starting point is 01:53:05 that stuff's really bad for you good sleep good food and good training has a massive resetting effect on your whole system it's a really fucking profound thing and it can actually buy you so much excess health that you can drain away some of your health doing stupid shit and not pay a huge overall cost now if you could both live healthy habits like gym and good food and good sleep and be on your phone and on twitter forums getting pissed off a little less it would be even better so you think that shit is really bad it's like the guy who drinks five beers a night but he trains so much he still has a six pack it is offsetting it but he could have a fucking eight pack if he didn't do that so yeah it's like good things are good bad things are bad
Starting point is 01:53:42 well how bad are those bad things that's's, I guess, the second question. It depends on how you relate to it. So if you're on your phone all the time, but you're consuming immersive content that is positive for you and it's educational. So it's about the content, not the action of the fucking- Oh, absolute fuck no. It's all about the content. Yeah, if you're just like on Twitter just fighting with people all day, I can't imagine
Starting point is 01:54:00 that. That's bad news because your fight or flight's always on, but there's no one to fuck up. And that becomes like a little toxic really quick. That's bad news because your fight or flight's always on, but there's no one to fuck up. And that becomes a little toxic really quick. I have that problem where I read my... I try to get away from this a lot, but reading comments on social media is one of the stupidest things you can do because it's just totally not representative of your actual fan base or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Yeah, that's true. It's like the 1% of worst people. Comments are 50-50 as far as I can tell. Ours are funny, so ours are pretty good sometimes. Sure, there you go. We kind of have cool comments we have 50 50 in my my forums one a half of the comments roughly roughly is just really exuberant super excitable super awesome people and they're fucking great and the other 50 ish are like pathetic miserable f word i can't say anymore trolls that are just awful fucking people or
Starting point is 01:54:44 normal people just having a really bad time look and I'm having a bad time in my head I'm much more likely to debate people on the internet and in not nice ways like being around that toxicity like a huge thing hit me a while ago if you hung out with people like that you'd be like kill me give me the fuck out but I'm voluntarily hanging out with them over the internet what am I doing so if your social media interactions media interactions are positive and self-reinforcing amazing bro i want to live in the fucking vr space full time but if they're toxic and awful and you're just at the worst bottom pile of the worst twitter cesspool ever all the fucking time yeah shit's gonna cost you
Starting point is 01:55:18 bro yeah fuck your brain up you know what i was kind of thinking about like just in general podcasts or like how to consume it the right way and also um like a little bit related to that guru conversation you know when you have like uh if you like let's say in your field like if you probably go to that conference you would just went to the arnold thing you're probably around like three or four other smart people like if you probably talk to a bunch of those guys for an hour you probably leave with something else contextualize a little better right yeah definitely doesn't mean you guys solved every problem but it might mean you were like okay we got a little closer to the truth there after that conversation and then you're like if you have three or four of those that you
Starting point is 01:55:57 listen to and then you're kind of like okay that you basically make podcasts that for yourself yes where you kind of are like okay here's the three or four that i listened to and after listening to that i think that this guy maybe made the most sense on this and it's sort of if you but instead of being like here's the one person that i follow for everything it kind of you almost treat it like you would treat people that you like in real life that you're sort of you don't hang out with just one person yeah well it's just the two of you but there's some kind of weird relationship here i can tell there's a weird sexual alpha beta relationship you're sort of sensing oh who's the alpha who's the beta Well, it's just the two of you, but there's some kind of weird relationship here. I can tell there's a weird sexual dynamic. Alpha-beta relationship you're sort of sensing?
Starting point is 01:56:27 Ooh, who's the alpha, who's the beta? Like, comment below. I actually have been getting shredded right now. Feel that. Oh, yeah. He's tattoo flexing on you. Hey, touch my tats, Jew boy. Zero percent body fat, right?
Starting point is 01:56:41 Zero percent. I honestly think you're too lean, and it's scaring me. Do you actually think I'm too lean? No. What the fuck? Yes. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:56:48 He was kidding. What about, uh, you think it's the perfect amount of lean? Are you a cold plunge guy? Or the rapper said the perfect amount of lean. Cold plunge and saunas. Saunas have some interesting research where in some contexts that might be good for you. But the number one thing there is you have to think that the experience is enjoyable and relaxing. If if you don't you're not going to have a good time in the sauna i go that's me i do not have a good time it's just fucking hot there's dudes and cocks everywhere like yeah
Starting point is 01:57:12 now the sauna the sauna in my gym actually is because uh every guy brings their phone in there too which is like so insane oh you want them to talk to you no i just wanted to be like i don't know he's like i got my towel off no one's even noticing fellas guys dicks in real life yeah he's at the equinox no one's even bouncing what are we even doing you gotta get real close to people in sauna start talking to them like so what brings you in no cock out of my face i mean if we're talking i prefer not to talk either i just want to i still get sauna tips i go to the sauna i still have my thing i go what's this business you're doing you're sitting like that is there any reason for that hold on a second what bothers you about people i don't know it's like almost like at a
Starting point is 01:57:47 movie theater like i don't know i feel like were you looking at something it is a bit of a grumpy yeah i don't know maybe i don't know there's something just wants the men to share that fucking no i don't want to talk to them you have a couple boys sitting down and this is an irrational thing it just seems odd to me that everybody's like sonic conversations are funny because you like make eye contact with some guy and you're like both sweating your ass off. You're like,
Starting point is 01:58:07 and he's like, yeah, that's really odd. Oh yeah. And then you're sucking his dick. As you do. Cold plunges are for most people
Starting point is 01:58:16 stressful and they actually, in certain contexts, especially if you do it right after you train, reduce how much muscle growth you get out of it. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:58:26 Cold plunges are one of the biggest scams of modern time. Whoa. Ladies and gentlemen, that's a big tidbit right there. They can be healthy for you if they give you that shock response. Take that, Russell Brand. That whole thing. But that categorically means that you don't challenge yourself in other ways. You're supposed to get that shock response from fucking training hard,
Starting point is 01:58:45 you fucking pussy. So go in the gym, sweat like a fucking animal, hurt yourself in the good way, you know, the muscle pain. You don't need a fucking cold plunge. Because I think people need a little bit of shock in their lives. Like, usually the lion would chase you, and you're like, oh, thank God that's over, and you're healthy. But if you have only easy things around you,
Starting point is 01:59:02 your brain starts to kind of degrade, and it's like perception of things. He sort of had that shock when epstein's files started coming out he's like please don't be in there am i on there i don't remember being there but i was on a lot of drugs at that time that's my that's my shock when the flight locks get released i'm telling you guys like honestly this is one of my big fucking downsides in life is that i just i never now he's dead what am i supposed to do i'm not supposed to get to the island when the guy invented it i mean there's other islands out there like what
Starting point is 01:59:25 cold blunch Che's Doreen has been pushing so hard to have cold showers and I was just like I'm not taking a cold shower fuck that bro it's crap
Starting point is 01:59:33 which guy with a gun is gonna push me into a fucking cold shower get the fuck out of my face I do not want to take a cold shower it is like miserable thing to do
Starting point is 01:59:40 I think my grandfather who was like you know in the redviet red army he was a big cold shower guy but they were just miserable people look they didn't have a lot of showers back then no and the cold was free for access for all you just go outside and die yeah uh cold cold plunges cold showers can be two there's two ways in which they can be good
Starting point is 02:00:00 they can give you that little spark and wake your ass up, which is nice. Typically, I like for people to get that from training because they get all the benefits of training plus the spark instead of just the spark. Also, the cold can reduce your proximate level of inflammation. It can prevent inflammation from getting higher. So if you have to peak for a sport, like if you have to be your best sprinting speed tomorrow, but your hamstrings feel a little tender, if you do some cold treatment, the processes that make your hamstrings sore are actually mediated by inflammation and you can turn that knob down by making them cold. They never become inflamed and they feel fresh and you fucking have the run of your life. So that's why all the basketball players are going under
Starting point is 02:00:37 the cold. And for them, it may be a good idea in context for the rest of us. Like, motherfucker, you're a stockbroker. You're not a fucking basketball player. Just do two things to make yourself healthier one train your fucking ass off and to make sure that Dom beats your ass every Friday and Saturday at 7 p.m.
Starting point is 02:00:52 she's got to be big too and not attractive you can't be attractive to your dominator you have to fear that bitch she's five pounds she hates you really she hates you and you
Starting point is 02:01:01 can feel it through her whip oh yeah sign me up fellas I mean already signed up. Inflammation is one of the main ones that I feel like I've heard both of the sides of it. Because I hear a lot of people beating the drum that inflammation is like the worst problem. And I was kind of on board with that. And it did make sense.
Starting point is 02:01:16 And then I heard a bunch of guys being like, well, yeah, you need inflammation. So it's like useful. Sure. I can resolve this. This is not controversial. So chronic low-level inflammation is bad um periods of insanely high inflammation followed by periods of healing and low inflammation is excellent and needed for your body to be healthy and is there an epidemic of people that
Starting point is 02:01:38 have chronic low-level inflammation is that that's the question i shy away from terms like epidemic because if i can't contract yeah i don't know from you by breathing it i don't call it epidemic okay maybe not epidemic but i know what you mean like a serious fucking problem like a lot of people have yeah absolutely too many definitely because being over fat being underactive and eating shit foods uh all contribute to chronic low-level inflammation yeah so when you kind of look at the low-level inflammation problem you're just kind of like yeah it's one of the symptoms of the same thing everything else is a problem like where you're just like you could list off things like inflammation be like there's this problem of inflammation but it's like you could just say that about every other symptom of being people being fat lazy not working out that's exactly correct so when people are of an
Starting point is 02:02:16 oral body weight when they work out pretty hard a few times a week and when they eat fundamentally well and also they get some sleep and their social relationships are decent and they don't hate their job that's like a fucking mega panacea that ends up the only diseases left over after that are like shit people die from in the 50s you know man bob got a heart attack saying like bob wasn't a fat slob his whole life it just like got too much stress one day when the fucking advertising firm called them wrong time or some shit like that would be good to come back to and i think well and i think in the 2030s we're gonna have so much much like genetic enhancement and shit like that's all going to be fucking solved you think so i i would put a fucking obscene you almost need it because another thing with the phone conversation i was kind of hearing a like one of the big problems is your brain like every time you
Starting point is 02:02:57 like walk into a new situation your brain like contextualizes okay that guy i know him from here you know what i mean and when you're scrolling on the internet every new thing it's kind of like okay there's a line like you think about everything i know about lions and you kind of and then you're like oh sports it's like okay well and you're like your brain's not supposed to be switching between like context like that quickly that frequently and maybe the like that might be something that yeah you kind of like, there's like a fix for, you know? Maybe, maybe. Smoother context switching. Fatigue. Yeah, you can get some fatigue from that.
Starting point is 02:03:31 I think a lot of people scroll for the novelty alone. But what you maybe is helpful to do is curate your social media with things that fall into one of two categories. Things that make you better at your life and your job and smarter and like knowledge shit improvement shit and also just entertainment shit things you like to see yeah and a lot of people have a lot on their social media that's neither one of those things like they see videos of fucked up shit um a really good way to cook your own ass psychologically is to get into like political bullshit on the internet it's gotta be bad getting triggered all the time it's not fucking good for you and or validated is one of the two extremely validated in your psychotic opinion about other people so people that do like like
Starting point is 02:04:13 my parents thank fucking god they don't really do social media because they'd be on every fucking pro-conservative pro-trump site and link ever and they would just they'd be they'd be sharing like the facebook memes and stuff like that send me that shit the boomer means i told my mom to get on twitter because i was like you'll like twitter and then They'd be sharing the Facebook memes and stuff like that. They already send me that shit. The boomer memes? Oh, my God. I told my mom to get on Twitter because I was like, you'll like Twitter. Are you on your fucking mom? Now she literally DMs me red pill memes and shit. I fucked up.
Starting point is 02:04:34 Hey, mom, Twitter's bad. Get off now, please. She called Danny Bottom G. Damn, dude, your mom is fucking dishing it out. Pretty based. Based, black-pilled, red-pilled. damn dude your mom was fucking dishing it out pretty based based black pilled red pilled well that's what it really is the probably the number one if you think about um people that have to stick to their opinion it's like if you're in politics your opinion is like if you change your
Starting point is 02:04:57 opinion like you kind of uh like that is such a every other place in life changing your opinions probably means you're like mature and yeah whereas that's the one place in life changing your opinions probably means you're like mature and whereas that's the one place in life you change your opinion it means you lost yeah everybody starts calling you a flip-flopper flip-flopper a bitch yeah which i mean you shouldn't change your opinion on your like general ideology if you're changing like that's if you're always changing your general ideology that's like a 20 year old girl that's like crazy but if you're there's like the actual facts within the ideology like yeah your framework shouldn't just be constantly changing but yeah i'd love to see politics change a little bit hopefully it is over time what do you think that would could happen to change it i'm not sure but i think
Starting point is 02:05:39 like my view on politics is the shit that we disagree on we should just leave to freedom to sort out like trans people i could give two fucking shits about trans people in the best way possible you're trans i love you get over here give me a hug sure you're not trans get over here give me a hug who gives a fucking fucking flying fuck people just consume themselves in the flame fucking arguing that bullshit all the fucking time but what i think politics should mostly be about is making sure that our political institutions are designing the kind of society that basically everyone wants a consensus like raise of hands you go to a room of 100 people a third of them are fucking insane a third of them are republicans a third of them are democrats
Starting point is 02:06:16 you pull people like here who here wants lower crime if you don't raise your hand you're a fucking idiot get out of my gonna be crazy to be like who wants the streets to be dirty right like a lot of republicans are anti-environmentalist mostly because the environmentalists are psychotic leftists who actually want but they don't want to give them an inch because they know right exactly who wants to have a cleaner environment like trees and fucking eagles flying around and shit and fucking sun shining and no fucking carcinogenic gases everybody who wants better health care everybody let's get the shit everyone else who wants more wealth like who's like hey okay if we take the government and make sure everyone is like same shit as always but we make one change we try to rig the economy to make the average person as a wealthy as possible over
Starting point is 02:06:59 the next 10 years sustainably who's in i guess you don't raise your hand put your fucking hand on motherfucker it's like let's just make shit better for everyone because we debate shit in the in the united states in sweden in the netherlands in australia in taiwan right versus left and it seems crazy right go somewhere else where it's not civilized and you're gonna be like oh civilization's what we want go to india and be like they don't have a sewer system that works i want one of those at home you know crime rate shit like that mass poverty political violence you don't want any of that shit so like why don't we focus our political machine and just getting us the most of what everybody fucking wants and then once our world is insanely clean everyone's gainfully employed
Starting point is 02:07:45 everyone's getting richer all the time there's no violence on the streets everyone's getting sweet health care then it doesn't fucking matter nobody gets nobody why do you think that doesn't happen because we have a very believe it i'm gonna get total shit for this as measured we have an incredibly well-functioning democracy in the united states uh there is very little political corruption there is very little political corruption. There is very little them that run things behind the scenes. That's fucking insanity. We have a very robust democracy.
Starting point is 02:08:10 People get what they want on average most of the time. And the average person does not know economics. And the average person votes emotionally. I think that's it. So many people, they're just like, you just don't know what you're talking about with the economy. Single-issue voters. Which is a totally insane thing to be like you know the amount of people who go like i vote whoever supports my stance on abortion abortion i was gonna say yeah they go if whoever is my abortion can't like whoever has my opinion on abortion
Starting point is 02:08:35 whatever else they're like shit they're gonna do i don't care totally one thing totally which like um the abortion thing is tough because also religion gets in there so there's another reason why people are crazy about politics. They're religious. Well, that's the trans stuff. It always gets back to the kids. We're like, well, yeah, what are we teaching? For sure.
Starting point is 02:08:51 As soon as you have these overarching things that everyone has to. Definitely. You can't just have what you said, one size, everyone gets what they want. Because you're like, we're doing the one thing for everybody. And the trans people thing is like, look like you can simultaneously not try to encourage people to be queer trans whatever the fuck because they're little fucking kids leaving the fuck alone teaching math and science but at the same time you can teach children from a young age like if someone looks different or acts different they're one of our members on our society team and we got
Starting point is 02:09:17 to love them just we could love everyone else we have to we don't even have to agree with them we have to respect the fuck out of them like if you're a fucking purple haired social justice warrior i probably fucking hate all of your goddamn political views But i'm never gonna get violent with you And if you talk to me in an airport and you smile at me i'm smiling at you back That's a little more of what we need bro, and a lot of people are like I fucking hate these people It's like let's hate each other a little bit less and you just have tolerance for difference Because like if trans people want to be trans like fucking god bless them
Starting point is 02:09:42 Does that mean you have to agree with them? No, but you don't have to agree with people's fashion choices either. You don't fucking open your mouth to them on the street and be like, I fucking hate your outfit. Like, what the fuck? That's weird. So just if people could just be more cooperative and all work towards making society better in the ways that everyone agrees is a good idea. But obviously there are enemies to that. So, for example, if like, you know, the Taliban was like, hey, like, we need to like stop getting women to learn how to read.
Starting point is 02:10:09 We need to degrade social institutions. We need to like stop getting women to learn how to read we need to degrade social institutions we need to like everything needs to be religious fuck that spitting fuck that like i'm glad we have the fucking navy seals and delta force can go kill isis as much as fucking possible there are true evil people in the world that don't want cooperation you guys know about isis and shit like that oh we've heard of them they just like categorically rape everyone that they possibly can they rape muslims just as well as they rape everyone else. Like, let's focus on hating those people. The no woman reading thing, though, is all right. I mean, like, when women start to read,
Starting point is 02:10:31 they just feel like they're worth so much, and I don't like that because I'm so worthless. I need them to be below me so I can try to hit on them. If they, like, can read, I'm not interested in that shit. Bitch, what you trying to be smart for? Suck this dick. Doesn't take a fucking, you don't have, there's no braille on my dick, bitch although that's a cool tattoo right for the blind some
Starting point is 02:10:49 people have braille on there dude can you imagine you just have all hpv oh yeah is there a cure for that dude can you imagine a fucking pussy the ultimate the ultimate tattoo is getting fucking braille on your dick and like you hook up a lot of blind bitches right and consensually of course and when they feel like oh my god is this bra this Braille? But all it says is like, sup, bitch? They're like, really? You know, we actually had someone on this other show I do. We had someone tell us, I guess there's this thing where some, what was it, Johnny? It was like the domino dick.
Starting point is 02:11:17 Where in jail, certain, I think it's Latino or Hispanic or whatever. They will take a break a piece of a domino like a tiny piece and then they will for uncircumcised men and then they will cut a little like slit and then they put the domino on the top of their like foreskin and then let it heal over so then they just have this like square piece of domino at the top like but it's like now it's like inside they're like i guess it's like when people get like a tattoo like i guess but there's a but they say it's for like like sexual pleasure the purpose ostensibly a sexual pleasure yeah yo my name is a re-game
Starting point is 02:11:56 but they call me fucking domino why he's like oh it's technical like yeah i don't want to have to crap oh shit but you're like why would you do that in jail dude any kind of like home surgery in jail is a categorically a bad idea oh those must get so infamously dude like so what are we doing about anesthetizing the wound they're like what's that mean you're like never mind dick surgery is like a 30 chance you're losing your dick probably shit like that dude i don't like so like i've watched my fair share of adult films first of all movies movies uh feature films that have like they show the guy's dick a lot like i've watched my fair share of adult films first of all movies movies uh feature films that have like they show the guy's dick a lot like i'm like what who is this for anyway stop zooming in i blurred out with my hand i say no not today you got the wrong guy you guys are both gay i
Starting point is 02:12:35 watch japanese porn i don't know it's blurred out the wrong guy that's also weird because i'm like so weird like i'm straight i can see a dick and it doesn't bother me you know it offends me the other way but like when the guys have like the dick piercing like they're fucking like i'm like, I'm straight. I can see a dick and it doesn't bother me. You know, it offends me the other way. But like, when the guys have like the dick piercing, like they're fucking like, I'm like, first of all,
Starting point is 02:12:50 you're some kind of God for sitting in the fucking chair while they do that to you. And second of all, like, does that help you? Also, doesn't it get caught on things?
Starting point is 02:12:57 Can you imagine? It does. You're trying to take your jeans off and the fucking zipper gets caught on that stupid fucking ring. Dude, the Prince album is, the Prince Albert is problematic.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Dude, super problematic. But, girls with vaginal pier the Prince Albert is problematic. Dude, super problematic. But on those girls with vaginal piercings, I don't just mean clit. I mean just like all the lips and shit. If you have piercings, it tells me you're a fucking sex addict degenerate. I'm 100% in.
Starting point is 02:13:15 It's not always true though, unfortunately. So when they have the piercings, they're still not a degenerate. Well, there's a lot, there is a lot of girls that are like the tattooed head to toe, all the piercings and stuff. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Daddy's little freak. Yeah, but they're kind of not that. They're almost like the home body type. Oh, what? You'd be surprised. Fucking rip off. Interesting. Bitch, I thought you were the home body.
Starting point is 02:13:37 I mean, I think that's more my world than your guys' world. I mean, definitely there is some, but there is a fair amount of people that are into that like all of the body mod and stuff like that they're almost like nerds for body mod yeah that's true yeah yeah they're kind of lame it is a little bit you wouldn't expect it but it is unfortunately true to me it's just advertising you're a fucking sex addict freak and i love it but if you're like a normal person with tattoos i'm like fucking weirdo yeah you i'm looking at your arm too how you would be it's fucking jack dude you're a freak i can tell i can tell you you take a peek at those that's a lot of bicep for one human being thank you very much yeah he doesn't want to get his head though it's not just impressive on a
Starting point is 02:14:19 physical perspective it's just like some guys have muscles and you're like cool some guys like you it's manly you need to widen out your vision to get it all in look at them more yeah in your spare time yeah yeah dr mike thank you for being here this was a pleasure um where can everyone find you i know your channel on youtube is the main to learn more of nothing like we learned today no i do i watch your youtube videos all the time i learn a lot yeah when i'm at the gym, I watch them. Are you naked when you're watching them? No. But I'm...
Starting point is 02:14:48 Considerate. At least touch yourself, please. I mean, I'm touching. I'll watch you on the treadmill. Ooh. Yeah. The dick kind of goes... Are zins bad for you?
Starting point is 02:14:56 That was our one question that me and Danny asked and we didn't ask. Oh, what? Do you think... Because everyone's doing like pouches and it's way better
Starting point is 02:15:02 than cigarettes and vaping. I think that's for sure. Better than cigarettes. But it's like, I don't really understand. It's a very downside to nicotine as a chemical. Yeah, definitely. What do you think it is? I mean, it like jacks up your blood pressure,
Starting point is 02:15:14 jacks up your heart rate. It's kind of like a sympathetic agonist. So it kind of, it's like super caffeine in a sense. So if you have moderate use, it's almost no health effect negatively in the long term. There are still some negative effects. But you think just taking it all the time is not the best part? Yeah, if you're fucking on nicotine, have moderate moderate use it's almost no health effect negatively in the long term there's still some negative effect but you think just taking it all the time it's not like yeah if you're fucking on nicotine 100 of your fucking waking life yeah it's gonna fucking cost you bro it's
Starting point is 02:15:31 gonna cost you increased risk for heart disease and all this other kind of shit yeah but like again it's not the end of the world it's gotta be better than vape and smoking it's definitely do smoking fucks you up like i'm a marijuana user personally which is weird to admit uh i feel like a fucking useless hippie but i only do edibles because like i have to train for jiu-jitsu and lifting i can't fucking be a degenerate smoker with fucking functionless lungs no offense fellas if that's you guys no um i like edibles too yeah yeah they're all sorry i'm on like 100 grams right now that's right really i was on a podcast not grand it was like it's really tough to be on a podcast high because when I'm high enough
Starting point is 02:16:05 I don't like to get high I like to get super high that's the only way I remember and I can't remember the last thing I said which is bad news when you're trying to construct a coherent narrative
Starting point is 02:16:14 I'm like you ask me a question I'm like what was that again it would be fucking terrible but in any case on our show last one actually
Starting point is 02:16:20 this guy LaMare who's Shane Gillis' producer or whatever on his podcast but someone was at the comedy club was handing out like they just have a bag of edibles amazing this guy lemaire uh who's uh shane gillis's producer or whatever on his podcast but so someone was at the comedy club was handing out like they just have a bag of edibles amazing just like free to take or whatever and so some of them were 10 milligram some of them were 75 and they were the same no they were labeled but they were the same color oh whatever and then lemaire's just like on the podcast and he's just like i can eat one of these tens and then i look
Starting point is 02:16:42 down i go dude that was 75 milligrams you have about 30 minutes to make sure you get to the right safe location yeah for real some yeah i mean it gets depends some people like build up such a crazy tolerance where they're like i i start at 250 milligrams i'm like i saw a 1000 milligram edible baggie at the store in new york earlier when i was buying weed and i was like holy fucking shit like but it's called the brand is called to buying weed and I was like, holy fucking shit. But it's called, the brand is called To The Moon and I'm like, that's accurately labeled. Truth in advertising. YouTube's probably the best
Starting point is 02:17:11 place to find me. So if you go on YouTube and you just like type in Dr. Mike, there's another also Russian Jewish, but a real doctor, considerably more handsome than me and has more followers. He's really just better so you want to you want to get that israel tell and yeah yeah renaissance periodization rp strength whatever
Starting point is 02:17:31 my giant ugly head will pop up click on things you might learn a thing or two and you might get a lot of pedophile jokes that you didn't really sign up for do not listen to our shit around children i have to say that nowadays okay because people when the comments will be like i turned this on when my kids were in the car and like you went on a 40 minute rant about golf don't we all have to learn about golf tricks at some point yep all right thanks for coming through brother thanks for having me guys

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