The Boyscast with Ryan Long - WHEN THEY'RE ACCIDENTALLY FOR THE BOYS

Episode Date: October 8, 2021

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So I'm at the gym, the gym that I eat at. Doing his Kegels. Doing my Kegels. And I'm about to take a shower. I got my towel on, just a towel, pretty sexy. And there's this guy there, it's me and this guy. And he comes to me and he goes, hey, man, keep up the good work. And I go, oh, this guy likes the videos.

Standard stuff. You know, he likes the podcast. And I go, great. And then there's like a bit of a pause and I go back to doing my thing getting ready to shower and he goes so how much weight have you lost i go what i don't i don't know if anything you gain i actually was like that's what i go kind of up a bit he goes ah keep up the good work and then i walked away i go oh he doesn't know who i am he just was and he was fat he was a big guy he said i aspire to be you you know a gay podcast you go no no a guy who loses weight i guess i guess he's right

he put you up to tear you down i guess i maybe part of me should have because he's obviously on some sort of weight loss journey so i should have been like used to be 400 pounds man you can do it you can do it that is i should have yeah i should have been like you can do it man someone goes up they go hey hey what's up it's you you go what and they go you the guy who stood in front of me at the line which i you ate the last twinkie i was getting in so i before we get into it the the intro catch-up session. I was on. So I'm in Santa Barbara all weekend. Oh, yeah.

How was that? I haven't seen you since then. Yeah, I'm at a wedding, right? So a couple takeaways from the wedding. But more importantly, the United Airlines. You know, there's a reason why so many comics in the history of time end up airline specific. Because you take these airlines, and it's insane what's going on there so because of covid united airlines is probably one of the worst experiences in my life and i say that every time i fly on their america for me it's american and united are by far the

two worst airlines it's a fucking joke and i've never fallen spirit because everybody like you got it but they're a bunch of hosers over there a bunch of hosers so this is what happens you get there and you it's a five-hour flight or whatever and you are uh it's a four and i take connection and they go to buy food you go you go okay i'll order some food i'll get a drink and they go oh you have to sign up for this app and you can't get the app in the air you can't get the app in the air and then i go oh okay i'll go on my phone and get the app or whatever. And then you try to go five, 15 minutes of internet, but the plug doesn't work, right? So they're like, well, if you can get it on your phone,

I go, my plug doesn't work. They're like, you should have charged your phone. I go, well, yeah, I'm an hour late because my last United Airlines flight was delayed. So I get off my delayed flight, get to the place, try to buy food. You can't buy food. And then on top of that there

is this element of like they're like oh i guess all the plugs are broken you go in what other imagine you went to a hotel and they go all the outlets just aren't working and they go oh you know what happens if you get a taxi you basically get an uh you can get a phone charge for your phone every time and they're looking like i'm being unreasonable like it's like the broken window thing where they just go hey i don't know they're all broken I'm being unreasonable. It's like the broken window thing where they just go, hey, I don't know. They're all broken. But. Nobody goes to fix them.

So is your plane broken? Am I in a broken, the last place I want there to be malfunctions right and left. And what other place would you get, would you buy a service, rent a car and you go, hey, all of the, like the radio doesn't work and all this stuff. And they go, oh my, like unreasonable. Yeah, they go, oh shitty. And you go, what do you mean? Oh shitty.

And they're like, well, you should have known that you had to sign up for the app. I go, yeah. Who knows that? It's a four hour flight, especially you go to a four hour flight.

You're expecting to do some work and whatever so that you can't get on the internet because that doesn't work. And then the, uh, the plug to charge your stuff doesn't work. And they're looking at you like, Oh, like I'm being a carrot.

Yeah. You're being like a total, they've been like, they're looking at you like, oh, like I'm being a Karen. Yeah, you're being like a total. They've been like, we've been through so much as flight attendants in the last year and a half. Even though now you're trying to take me to my chair because I want a working plug. You probably like got to the hotel and you just watch like compilations of fucking flight attendants getting assaulted just to get one back. You go, yeah, that's what they're thinking. Good guys. I go, I'm like, OK, well, why don't I give you my phone and you can charge it then i'll do it and they're like oh we can't take your

property like and i go well then have a working plug then find me another place where i can put my plug yeah and that place is delta airlines yeah it was a two lot but our takeaways from the wedding is um did you was at any point when you got hungry enough because i know you get when your blood sugars drop where you're like kind of you get panicky. I was panicky. I was testing. Were you going to be like

start finding someone who had the app and just give them cash to buy something? That's what I did try to do. That's the first thing I tried to do. A couple people beside me

I tried to do it when no one was interested. People were Because they think there's something scam going on. I did have I was getting in

confrontations all weekend. I had one win where I made a whole scene. So this lady comes on, she was like an old lady, right? Was it when they go, does anybody have any objections? Yeah.

I was loving the idea of objecting to the wedding, but, but that, so there's a, there's a lady on the plane. Oh, the older lady. And she can't find a thing for her bag.

I eventually find a spot. She's coming on late behind me we're all late because our other united connection the pilot was lollygagging i guess yeah so we and then uh basically there was a spot but all you would have to do was move this bag so i go to this old lady i go you know i'll i'll uh help you find a place so i take this lady's suitcase and then i move one other bag over and this lady sitting down gets up and she goes, can you not move my bag? And then I'm like, so, but because everyone was kind of watching at this point, I made a whole, I basically played dumb and made a whole scene. And I was like, yeah, you could probably put it here.

But this woman says she doesn't want to move her bag over. She likes the spot that it's in so i mean maybe i maybe we could store it at the front or whatever i mean this would be a good spot but this lady's very against moving her bag i'm not really sure at this point like 40 people are watching and this will be everyone in the planes looking back at this lady and she's like oh she doesn't want to move it i go i don't know i asked her she sort of got mad about it. And this lady. How old is she? This lady.

The older lady is 75. Nice. And the younger lady is 50. Okay. So the 50-year-old lady has a whole spotlight on her that she didn't want to move her. Were you considering calling her a Karen or you're like, that's overdone. We're not there yet. Are we not at the point of calling her a Karen yet?

I was making a whole stink. And then eventually she was bullied into moving her bag because there's such a spotlight on it. And when she did move her bag, it took two seconds. And my attitude was, oh, see, that wasn't really so hard, was it? And you could have just done it for her. Yeah. So exactly right. Yeah.

You were kind of being the gentleman. Be like, oh, let me rearrange this. Every wedding, by the way, has its cliche guys. And it feels like if it doesn't have the cliche guys people fit that role so there's a legitimate vacuum it's it's i think people within five minutes there's like a a two drunk uncle who's walking around bumping into people there's just like a like a baby uh walking you know dancing on someone's shoes the passive aggressive girlfriend who's like basically going to everyone,

being like, oh, Myra, I'm up next. There's the girl that's sort of too drunk, and she's a little sad that she should be married. Yeah, she should be married, and she's really putting it out there for everybody, but not to her boyfriend. Yeah, I was loving the idea that they came with the hall. So you rent a wedding hall, and they're like,

do you want a drunk uncle? We can have him say a couple slurs if you want to throw an extra 40 in it's like we'd send the baby out you want us to send the you want us to send the toddler out to dance i love how in your world the slurs cost more instead of less oh that's what i was loving the idea of the we're you want the uncle to be racist that's good guys if i did for diet of the idea of fucking the like the edge lord comic doing the corporate and he's like you know uh and uh we have tiers of blackface paint that i could put on do you want a turban that's an option like sending the package for you to do a corporate super

professional edgelord yeah yeah he's so he was you know and then he cancels the gig and he's like i am gonna have to charge you for the paint that i did use that is the expensive blackface paint but i was loving my favorite thing was uh when uh open bar if you're at yeah yeah if you're at a if you're at a wedding with a chick and she's being annoying calling her guests wedding guest zilla just keep calling her get wedding guest zilla santa barbara by the way is uh and which i thought i was going to san Diego. So I've been telling people for three weeks. I'm going to San Diego. Yeah. My chick came out and she's like, and everyone's like, oh, you're going to San Diego tomorrow.

And he's like, did you tell everyone we're going to San Diego? I go, maybe. Yeah. That's it. And, um, the Santa Barbara is like a time capsule to 40 years ago, a little, not 40 years ago, like early two thousands. So no, everyone dresses like early 2000s okay and it's the whole vibe right surfers and stuff like yeah surfers but yeah no one's

updated and one of the things that was interesting to me is when i went to some you know i went to like a reggae bar kind of reminded me of my my roots you know what i mean yeah yeah and then a lot of these people there their attitude in places places like that is very, instead of being like, sir, can you put your mask on? Their attitude is way more, sorry, dude, if you're going to be in the line, you got to do it.

Which makes you go, okay. Uncle Sam wants you to fucking, we got to, you don't want to do this. And it was interesting because the same way that we've been talking about how, you know,

with, you know, a lot of the, you know, black and brown people don't want to get vaccinated and all that stuff it's like all of these people have lost the fucking san barbara hippies they've lost the california hippies the grateful dead hippies yeah like fucking black dudes they've lost so many people in all of their also the all the freedom people hypocrisy it's too early for more hypocrisy but the SoCal hippies were all against this shit

and then my last takeaway which was you know because I know we have a lot of fans that I think our main demographic probably is like 20 to 40 so it is kind of all in that pocket but probably half under 30 or whatever and it was interesting because there's a lot of people there that pocket but probably half under 30 or whatever and it was interesting because there's a lot of you know people there that were you know 25 26 27 and it did remind me

that this is at the wedding at the wedding yeah and the you can tell that everyone's having sort of especially as some people get married earlier so many people in their like 20s to around 25 26 i think panic really starts to hit people in their 20s and i think that i think that 25 to 30 is the worst period for everyone because up until that point it's kind of like you know all of your decisions don't seem that important and then when you hit 25 it's like that's when people start getting married that's when people start for sure the relativity thing where you go yeah relativity everybody's just kind of a child until you've been done college for a few years or you've done high school for whatever amount of years

if you're not and you start it's like when your friends stop like quitting drugs and like you know you have that first friend who's like you know i'm going sober now and you're like yeah and you really you're like i'm gonna drink more if anything people start wanting to tick off the boxes too right because it's like it's almost a rush to get life done 25 to 30 really feels like a rush i think people have this idea that it's a there's uh it's like a bit of a musical chairs thing where like there's gonna run out of chairs and you're going to be left standing yeah but that's not the case at all but i think people think that they do think that and they also think and they're right to think that because everyone in your life is kind of saying to you you know when you're when you're 25 the big conversation from everyone is very much you know

like when you get married like are you are you thinking about having kids who's who you with what do you do for a living like what do you want to do for your life it's all that right and then by 30 no one does that anymore also you've had in your friend group a few of the people that were happily married or getting divorced your your friend that had this job there's like they were popping off they came out of college they had this big job now they're making 100k and they're 26 and it seems like they're killing it now they're making 130 and they're 30 and they're you know you don't really hear from them too much anymore they're like yeah i just go to work it's the sort of uh the honeymoon of anyone that's you know specifically

fast-tracked is kind of over yeah everybody starts catching up and yeah yeah well as anyone that kind of started really into their career at 21 around 30 it's like they've been doing it for nine years any sort of spark of that's worn off they're just in yeah there's no excitement anymore and i really think at 25 people get together and they talk about what do you you know what your job is what your plans this is what i want to do by 30 ish i think really i have friends that you know if i get together with my old friends, some people are really successful, some people aren't. No one

really talks about it. No, no, no. Yeah, exactly. You talk about other shit. Yeah, you talk about literally anything else. You might talk about your chicks and stuff like that, which has no bearing on, you know, how good people are doing. No. And even then, you might not, you know what, you might not even talk about that stuff that much. So I think that, I think 25 to 30 is the hardest part.

And I think that if you are 25 to 30 i feel like knowing that you it kind of feels like oh it just uh it's like this forever like i'm in this fucking thing it wears off it does wear off no that is very accurate 30 is a liberating age yeah you kind of are like whatever you're doing you're doing if you were doing something you don't like it's a little bit like i, if you're still trying to finish that college degree at 30, that undergrad, and you go, ah, this is the year. You're like a real Van Wilder vibes. Maybe 30 is not going to feel so good. Yeah.

But for the most part, yeah. You go 30. What's the difference of now and 39? What's the difference between like 24 and 30? It's like enormous. A lot, yeah. Well, I mean, literally the percentage of your life is greater um so i think that that's used i think with a lot of 25 to 30 year olds they're in very like

it's a very hectic mental time you're just constantly at war with your own brain what was the age of the people something like that 26 or something both of them same age yeah um what so moving on from the wedding the the uh moving on and moving out yeah yeah this this is probably i got some sense and pretty good stuff this week and there's like so much to go through but this is diversity spaces so germany they reserve so they've they're they're they've gone like full to prove that we're not you know bad yeah yeah remember that holocaust thing yeah yeah so they're pretty on the make it up for it and they're pretty on the forefront right yeah but and you know at the boys cast some of our favorite things for the boys

is uh the the intersectional car crashes of who's you know and who's bigger who's better right yeah so diversity spaces germ Germany reserves park. Germany, like some lots there, they've reserved parking spots for LGBT community and immigrants. So now there used to be wheelchair spaces. Yeah. It is interesting the kind of progression

is because at first they go, you know what? Disabled people, someone saw a disabled person like, you know, trudging through a parking lot and they go, you know what? We should get them closer.

That guy might be good with the spot. We should get them closer to the entrance right and then someone saw some pregnant lady you know walking and they go oh you know what she's pregnant she's struggling to get in let's get her just came let's get her just came let's get her a spot and then now in like literally they're just treating like um immigrant or like a gay person as like a disabled person well their sort of argument you know when they go through it the people that say it in their mind these people are just getting attacked right and left yeah and the way to help them is to get them prime parking spots so they can get to the door quicker because if they have to walk from the back of the parking

lot they're gonna get gay bashed right that's that's yeah it is so funny you think they did an analysis they go look 99.7 percent of all the gay bashing done in this garage happens in that back corner yeah so we got to get them away from there i would have thought that fat people were on the come up quicker you know what i mean no but there's also next there's also so much funny about parts about like so that just the first thing is a car park in germany decided to show its support for the lgbtq community and migrants by painting rainbow flag on one of its walls and reserving the parking spots and there's a so i this was the car park doing it but the the reason i said the authorities is because all of the the mayors of the you know the whatever the politicians have been coming out and kind of saying this is like the blueprint for what we should be doing.

Yeah. But the funniest part to me is like you, you know, let's say, for example, you, you take the spot, you know, you take your gay spot. How can they confirm? Well, for sure. Like you get the knock on the window. You have to have a gay star. Put your window down. I don't know.

License and registration, please. And you show them your stuff. They go, you know know you're parked in a gay spot son yeah yeah and then you've got to think fast you go son what do you mean son don't assume oh yeah yeah you gotta like you gotta be really quick on your feet with this i've got son the guy in a wheelchair like okay now question this is a bit of a callback to a previous episode can you say you're demi romantic that's a big question can you be like yo i'm fucking demi yeah oh my god that's so sorry you thought i was kicked out of the space i don't know oh my god you don't know that i'm demi romantic

i'm demi but uh a guy in a wheelchair he's getting uh taken out of the car put in the wheelchair and then like the parking attendant coming up you better fucking have sucked a dick pal i love the idea you have to have on your phone a picture of you like smooching a dude yeah i like getting a ticket for not being gay enough this really reminds me of like i read this i go this is gonna be canada in not that long we go we go oh i fucking out on the weekend. I got an $85 ticket. What for? Not being gay enough. Would you be in trouble if they said,

they say, hey, sir, this is a gay spot. The really gay spot's over there. These are the gay spots. The flamboyantly really gay is over there. The funniest part, too, is you go, some new family that just arrived from afghanistan you go yeah go park in the rainbow spot there and they're like what well we're immigrants too so do we get this yeah that would be so great you know an old man in a cane and like

his pre and a pregnant woman walking from the back and like so long suckers to the immigrant spot it's funny what they think immigrants' problems are, the hierarchy of immigrant problems. They're seriously like, we have 9 million problems that are ahead of getting prime parking spots. First off, we don't have a car because we just moved here and we're displaced from Afghanistan. We have $10.

So really, car's not in our future. But when you do get a car When you do get a car We gotcha The person Coming through Pregnant, and you're getting out of there Because you immigrated from Canada In the LGBTs party

That better be a surrogate, baby That better not be a man's baby Also, 90% of girls Identify as bi, right? yeah so it's like you know how like 90 of girls especially in college so it's basically like a college girl parking spot parking spots for college girls college girls and gender studies well authorities hope this would earn them praise for the act locals have called them out for alienating other groups but the city counselor thomas um marlock said there is nothing more important than setting an example

of tolerance and that which is which i think that does a good job of explaining the point of view of these people that there is nothing more important than, well, for example, a pregnant lady getting to having a, not having to walk through an entire parking lot. Well, that's not as important as us setting an example verbally. Yes. With some,

with some bullshit that doesn't help. But also, gays are in shape too. I know. Well, some of them are, but giving like equal at like saying hey everybody here's a parking lot just take whatever parking spot that's available is not intolerant

yeah it's like you're you're assuming when you say this is tolerance you go so what is intolerance in parking the intolerance just general parking dude they legitimately think these people are just getting attacked right now one thing their argument has to be one thing i will say is surprising is that it was a dude whose idea this was you think this is a girl idea i mean it's a guy that's you know pandering to women i guess this is pretty like i guess it's true he's probably a german trudeau but it's interesting that you know when all these uh practices and you kind of there's there's such like a people brought up the idea that everyone that claims to be against you know kind of authoritarianism they're always pushing

these authoritarian policies or whatever and it's funny because we're reading this article about china and it's so funny the idea that they're doing the exact same thing over there but just for different ideals and most people would look at so we briefly mentioned this but it's official and we're going to talk about it so china bans video games for effeminate males basically in their in their thing a leaked memo revealed beijing no longer views video games as entertainment but instead of as a form of art that is responsible for promoting the correct values and understanding uh a history and culture but they basically said they're banning any video games that have any effeminate males remember too we're like chad's only every chick in a video game had just like huge cans and then girls were

like hey that's all women aren't like that and then they made them and now they're like all right well china's going back to the cans back to the cans so but but they're saying they're going you know going to all these people it's kind of like here where if you turn on any channel they're saying they're going to all these people. It's kind of like here, where if you turn on any channel, they're kind of saying there should be more dudes in dresses. And China is saying no more dudes in dresses. No, thank you. But it's legitimately the exact opposite. And they were saying that.

But it's funny to watch these things and go, well, the principle only applies when it applies to my value structure. And I think that's how so many people see this the one thing too with the china thing is like at least they're a little more consistent than the germany thing the germany thing they're just doing this shit on the fly they're like oh like whatever gay fucking parking spots whereas in china they're this kind of fits in with they're like yeah we have a model of how we're trying to plan this society stuff deviates they have a model of how they want to plan they're trying to course correct you i see what you're saying yeah well

they've had a longer track record of i guess this but they do still they both have a model of how they want to see society one is you know slightly more traditional and the other is i guess it's reactionary in the sense it's like our model of how we see society is we want just you know no more dudes. What do you think in China their stance would be on gay parking spots? They would say only parking

spots for chads. It's like if you're a chad you get a free parking spot. If you go to the front like this is what they're saying there's no simps in video games. So basically they go, you can't, you can't be in the video game.

If for example, you're just like a, if let's say there's a couple that are in a relationship and you're pretending to be the friend, but you're actually in love with her, you're out. You can't be in the video game. But if you,

if you actually do just go steal the guy's girlfriend, like a Chad, like grand theft auto style. Now you're allowed to be in the video game. Or like if auto style now you're allowed to be in the video game or like if you smashed you're allowed to be in if you smashed no it's so funny too i'm like they're talking yeah we're banning gay relationships from video games i'm like man i'm so out of the loop of video games i'm like there's gay relationships in video games now i was like i haven't played video games probably like i don't know 10 15 years i'm sure i don't know what's it's the exact opposite of going here it's like they're censoring all the stuff they don't like it well there's

probably all sorts of things right so i mean that was the original person that they pissed off it's like kind of the same thing where we're talking about now where they're pissing off you know the california hippies they're losing yeah it's even their original group that they lost was the gamers yeah and they because if you're not if you're not, if you're not really, if you're just some politician. The gamers who wanted the cans. Yeah. The gamers wanted the cans. Gamers wanted the cans.

And then they go, you've had enough cans. No more cans. Yeah, if you're not paying attention, you don't realize how big, you know, these groups actually come. They're all, they're like unions almost. Not unions, but they're like, I don't even... Not even voting box is the right word. But yeah, they do... Hysterical mobs.

Social power. Yeah, absolutely. Because they're united, right? So there is some element of just losing all these big groups. They're like... Groups have their individual influence in certain ways, right? But if you look at how much people would hear would be for all of everything they're doing if you just switched

the things that they're banning um also making cans mandatory make well they actually did make that's one of the things they said but it's funny to think of like if you were gonna be in the video right like if me and you were in the game yeah yeah i like the idea of them having like a panel of just chinese bros like deciding whether you're fucking masculine i actually was reading this article dogs from china how many people work in the censorship industry in china oh Oh, so many. That must be one of the, like, you know, biggest industries in the whole country is just censorship.

Yeah. It is. It's like a field if you go to college there, yeah, to be a censor. You gotta fucking watch everything, play every game, like, watch every website. But I will say to you that we have, not only do we have our censorship actual censorship

industry the media well people the freelance censorship here like it kind of is an industry here too it's not government it's not to that degree well government we have government sensors as well but we also have the private sector of sensors karen's if you will the panel of uh chinese bros just there being like i don't know his posture is not that masculine which by the way there is uh i i feel like the one thing that this is the thing people in the chat sometimes will comment and be you know call me feminine and stuff like this and this is what they don't realize and the chinese bros might get me they don't ryan long the video game has been banned in china but no no i wouldn't be though that's the thing these people people don't

get unlike jane i'm feminine in the way that mick jagger's femme i'm rock and roll feminine it's a very different which is actually pussy crusher feminine pussy crusher feminine it's a it's a that's the thing These people don't realize that. Basically, what you're saying is China just needs to get to know you a little better. And once they did, they'd be like, oh, this guy's actually crushing it. We want more Chinese people to be like this guy. Me and my legend friends. Danny doesn't know what I was saying.

Instead of the slut walk, the dudes just have a legend walk. It's more of a strut. The fucking legend strut. But people don't get that. It is kind of an interesting culture, like band culture or whatever, because it is a little bit flamboyant and all that stuff. But at the same time,

it is kind of a very masculine culture. It's sort of an interesting duality. Yes. And a lot of arts cultures are like that. But you would look at that and you go, oh, Prince are like that but you but you could you would look at that and you go oh prince is gay if you knew prince you go that motherfucker ain't gay no okay it's more of a man than you'll fucking ever be well like they have a different kind of fucking judas priest isn't gay like oh elton john's gay i was gonna say i'm like yeah he's

gay that guy is gay right well he's kind of funny because he basically started wearing all the leather stuff and then all the kind of like metalhead guys started dressing like leather daddies yeah well I don't know if I could if what came first I think a lot of people like that narrative it's probably a little bit

of both but basically a bit of an overlap I don't know if a gay guy made gay cool for metalheads or a gay guy started making metal gay. So what are the kids in China going to masturbate to if they only have like three hours? Because they only have three hours a day. They have to crank one out quick. Well, there's no cans anymore. Well, this is the can-oriented line.

They said, characters must have a clear gender and storylines are prohibited from having blurred moral boundaries so when you say characters must have a clear gender boobs like what else could that possibly be that's basically a long hair and boobs well that that's kind of what that means so it's like this is very china's policy is very like me what me and my friends in like the film world used to joke about we used to say that uh the old like key grips you ever heard the old key grip jokes they can be sort of extrapolated to anything but it's like what do you call a key grip with uh how do you know how do you know that a key grip just got laid how two clean fingers it's like a gross joke but we used to say that the policy on set was all you need to know

is no gay shit no fat chicks and keep them cold yeah so this is what china's sort of policy is they're saying for their video games they go no gay shit no fat chicks no small tits no keeping cold sounds like they're fucking beers have to be cold china's for the boys i wonder if we're no men doing laundry in the video game i wonder if this podcast has any listeners in china i wonder if we're allowed yeah the clear gender they definitely mean titties that's no question and i think they go they they make the characters have to do like a motorboat. So they have another character. They make them bring in a life-size version of the character

and then the Chinese sensor bros, they kind of come up and they go, I'd like to see him a little bigger. They just measure the depth on their head to see how far deep they can get their head in there. Anything past the ear and we're good to go. Me and Paul used to always love that. It's like if you're going to a strip club or whatever

Whatever scenario you're motorboating titties And someone else is motorboating titties And you'll have to give yourself the boating nod The boater's nod Yeah yeah yeah Like out on the water Yeah it's out on the water The boater's nod from motorboating

So they said They were told these with the wrong value orientation pornography and violence must be outed so unfortunately titties are kind of back out because they don't like anything to pornography no and technology developers were briefed to firmly boycott any ill culture such as money worshiping effeminate males and boys love so to me that just sounded anti-semitic a bit of a dog whistle where they said the money and the boys love banning dog money worshipers money worshipers doesn't that feel a tad yeah i mean they like fucking if you said if you go you know i liked all the

people there except for the few money the money was the first and you point to your nose it is weird because they are a very like uh consumer culture there they're they're all into like status and buying just fucking dumb ass shit that's expensive crazy rich asians yeah exactly but even in china well they think that's a bad thing but that's that's all part of kind of the boils down to places like that where everyone has their own you know they always kind of need their religion that you have to be beholden to and here that religion is you know social justice or whatever yeah and there the religion is the state yeah it's communist party yeah exactly so if you if to be honest like that is one of those you know why there you know there's a lot of people that talk about why whether or not china is really like the biggest threat to us and i've heard kind of uh compelling arguments on both

sides yeah i would say that because but there is people like to even on both sides people like to glorify other cultures to some degree like they have it all together but they do have a lot of their own problems but they one of the big things that they're dealing with is when you know those tech companies get too big and they're censoring them and all that stuff a lot of it is just straight up the government like showing those elites that who's boss 100 because it's not like you know they have all their and a lot of those companies all like work with the military and all that stuff they're all intertwined like they're all intertwined. Pretty heavily.

And yeah, they all work for, like they're letting you be a billionaire. Like they're like. And they want you to know that. Whereas in America, you can be a billionaire in spite of the government. And then tell the government to, you know, fuck himself, right? Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Like Elon Musk style or like, you know, tells the SEC to suck his dick and all that stuff. Whereas there.

No way. They're like, no, no, no. They're like, we're kind of a tandem, if you will. They'll bring you in and be like... They bring you in with the 19 government officials, and they go, you mentioned sucking dick, and you said we'd be doing it to you. Well, we're going to leave here today,

and one of us is getting our dick sucked. Who do you think that's going to be, pal? Here's a chapstick. Alibaba. Alibaba. And then they said over 30 30 000 gamer accounts have been removed and 96 000 silenced over rule violations so again it's like the same shit they're removing accounts and they remove your accounts like for example if you're playing like a girl not taking chances in

the video game no you're very too cautious things like that if you're playing like a strategy game and you spend way too much time making food as opposed to... Just puttering around, not really getting much done, but really wasting time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're afraid of confrontation, for example. Yep. Puttering around, afraid of confrontation. That's one thing.

Not on time for anything. Yeah. You know, just regular stuff. Yeah, yeah, if you show up. Just regular, unmanly traits. You take too much time picking your character and getting it ready. You're obsessed with your avatar but not completing anything in the game.

You know. If you spend too much time. Check stuff. Yeah, well, if you do that, that's the kind of shit that gets your account taken away. They said rule breachers include improper political remarks, but obviously their improper political remarks

is just a different version than here. Superstition, rumor, pornography, vulgar content, cyberbullying, privacy speech, and discrimination comments, discriminatory comments. So exact same here with just different morals. You know, Western here, it's every superhero has a version. It is crazy though, because like you really know that in China, like someone's listening to everything in every

video game like that really is wild like it is really getting like i feel like you know you could i'm sure you can get slide stuff by but not to the extent where like i'm sure people drop like you know people say crazy shit on like xbox live and then they someone reports them who like was in it versus like a moderator whereas there it's like the moderator is or whatever ai or whatever they're using is the one who's actually like catching it yeah there's actually a guy sitting there with a toga on just crushing beers just listening he has like fucking headset in each ear just yeah and he's getting blown well they got so many people they got to put them to work somehow yeah they got tons of fucking people so it's almost it was kind of

making me laugh that the idea that this stuff's kind of like accidentally for the boys which i wanted to do a segment remember that's not accidentally in love when when someone does something that's supposed to be social justice, but it's accidentally for boys. This is that. I like one of the things I was reading in the thing where they go, authorities and state media

have repeatedly lashed out at male stars who wear heavy makeup and project a feminine image, saying Chinese boys should become more manly. Well, that's because they don't, that's why they're banning like the boy bands

and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is not to be confused with, again, me and Prince. But also- Meger me and steve tyler guys cool masculine guys but also like that level of self-awareness where they go yeah you know our dudes kind of do look like our chicks so it's like i mean like i know people make fun of us about that but it is kind of true so why are we giving these people more ammo that's true let's really differentiate them but the act you think there's how far away do you think they are from mandatory breast implants for all women above like 16 i would say that they've discussed it at the very

that conversation has happened where you go look let's give every every girl fucking double d's and they have a moment of like are you thinking what i'm thinking and they're like they're thinking but they're holding breast implants they're like squeezing those little squeeze things yeah they're still for the boys that they have like breast implants for their stress balls i went to a fucking a party with my girl her friend was like a surgeon or whatever and he's a plastic surgeon and he had all over his apartment fucking breast implants that's pretty funny that he's just putting it out he just has them like on his total ass but on his coffee table we should maybe get some for the fucking uh that's such a funny thing for the studio he had them like and they're just like he had like all over

his coffee table just breast implants nice but my actual one that i was gonna say accidentally for boys is um so casey musgrove basically went on SNL and then she did her performance naked with a guitar. Right. And then the cut released this article being like, if you're looking for a Halloween costume, if you're already panicking about what to wear for Halloween, singer Casey Musgrove has some sage advice. Don't wear anything at all.

Well, except for cowboy boots can't give away that you're already panicking so if oh yeah can't give away the feet for free so that's what they said they don't want you to see the free but so for halloween they're saying you know to this you know big woman icon yeah i don't know who she is i know it doesn't matter who the funny thing is i read it and they go she was doing a ode to jenny from forrest gump you're like way more people know who jenny is from forrest gump yeah then fucking casey musgroves so why not just say that why not say it's jenny from forrest gump but the bottom line is and where was this fucking costume 20 years ago the cut for women empowerment reasons is telling girls here's an idea go naked for

halloween yeah so they're saying i would love to be the editor the girl brings she goes here's the article i'm going to publish she goes i'm going to recommend that this year's halloween costume for women is go naked yeah yeah what the fuck are you talking about yeah what do you mean and they go yeah we're going to recommend they go naked we remember on that see that on college campus and you know this is a part of our efforts to for feminism yeah like this sounds like more like a tweet do you not have any other article ideas you know i think they got their idea from necro when i die bury me between a pair of tits you remember that one and what so would you have to sit down the whole time yeah an electric scooter where you're just like no you're out

there you're putting it out there your tits are out at the bar this is the recommendation you're carrying around and you're carrying around an acoustic guitar. So it's like a pretty expensive costume. I'd say that's optional at this point. It's a pretty expensive costume. It's like all the really like, so it's like cowboy boots, cowboy hat, acoustic guitar. That's like a $500 costume.

And this is a recommendation, not ironically, to recreate Casey Mosgrove's performances. All you need is cowboy boots a guitar which is optional and they said the attitude of a scorned lover maybe some SPF if you're going to be out in the sun so that's the recommendation

I love how they go it's optional for the guitar well basically girls at Halloween have always sort of been like you know let me do a slutty character of any obviously right right so it's like why not cut to the chase just be named oh yeah here you go why don't you say i'll go as eve yo harry clitz them skits that shit oh fuck what was it do you not remember necro no so necro was this rapper that he was kind of like he had all these songs about uh like pretty funny songs

like dead body disposal tell me what to do after your foes are killed then he would go right all through how to dispose of a body with really funny stuff and he'd be like you know put the bag in trash the trash bag and he's like uh and even a nosy bitch wouldn't open it up and make no sense he has like all these okay but what he's then he did this album called the sexorcist and all of his raps were about being like a you know uh orgies and stuff like that right with the lines of me and my buddies used to always say we go harry clint that's just some scary shit when i die bury me between a pair of tits that's probably one of the best raps anytime you you like hook up with a girl that's like hair you come back you just the boys knew you go let me just say this let's just some scary shit

how you know was it shaved all i'm gonna say is when i die bury me between a pair of tits let's just some scary shit when i die bury me between a pair of tits white guy he might have to be a white guy he was a white guy only a white guy was talking about just murdering like and like actual proper body disposal yeah well it was kind of like that that song that was like the rules of being a drug dealer or whatever you remember that one like uh biggie like the 10 crack it was like that a little bit but he was he would do songs like that that was very like in detail but it was always really funny but the sexist era of necro is so funny he's it was like at nine out of ten lines are about his dick being too big

and then he have would he wear makeup like does he have a costume no no no he was like look like fat joe sorta okay i was picturing a picture and he would do videos like he was one of the original guys to do the videos where it wouldn't be released on youtube and the girls would actually be naked and all that sort of stuff so finally this is caught up nice and by the way this is such i just can't get over how chick of a idea this is to say like for halloween spend all this money be naked yeah god here's here's the guy version of this article goes hey here's a hot halloween tip dick out no it's fucking buy a track suit you're one of the guys from squid game twelve dollars you're just saying it's crappy no it's a better costume yeah no that's your pain it's not spending you

you're not breaking the bank and you're not walking around naked like a psycho i'm see danny would wouldn't be disagreeing with the china censors because i'm all for the naked costume yeah until there's a fucking bunch of gross chicks and then you're like can we get them a fucking tarp no fat chicks no gay shit keep them cold danny i don't know if you've been listening well i imagine the cut doesn't abide by the no fat chicks no gay shit keep them cold hey that's the thing though they're accidentally for the boys. Accidentally for the boys. So in Canada, one of my favorite, a big joke was staying to any girl.

So people in America might not know this, but there was a celebrity singer. Her name was Rita McNeil. He's already making Danny chuckle because he knows. She was like really the butt of jokes in my childhood. She was this really fat singer, and she was the butt of all jokes. Rita McNeil, everyone used to say, eat a big meal.

It went on and on and on, right? Remember we used to know there was an old comic that was like a fucking old road dog from Canada. I remember the first comedy show I ever went to. He goes, you know, Canadian entertainers, we don't make that much money. We're lucky if we got three square meals a day. I don't know how Rita McNeil got so big. It was a hot topic, the Rita McNeil. So we used to always go to girls and be like, oh, you're dressed up as a Rita McNeil in a fairy suit.

Oh, oh, a Rita McNeil dressed up like a princess. Got it. Yeah, yeah. You always accuse them of their costume being Rita Mcneil dressed up like a princess got it yeah yeah you always accuse them of their costume being rita mcneil dressed up in the costume another thing this is my boy dan from universal we used to always go uh the way to get a free meal is you walk up to any girl while she's eating at a restaurant and you go eating for two tonight are we and then she cries and then you eat the rest of her meal plus it tastes a little better because she seasoned it with her sadness.

She seasoned it with her sadness. So you always accuse girls of eating for two. And then when they go, and then you finish their meal for them. Yeah, that's a good little life hack. They're getting a little less for the boys with their last comic. They say, bonus points if you shave your eyebrows, wear a wedding dress dress and or run alongside a very fast horse so this is another back to forrest gump they're back to forrest yeah they're off fucking snl yeah don't shave your eyebrows though remember when that was like the hot style for girls uh no you don't this

was a big thing especially where i came from there were plenty of girls they shave their eyebrows and then they draw oh draw the eye oh draw the draw i thought you were saying shaving which is just shaving and not saying yeah yeah that's the one of my it's one of the worst styles if i ever see you do that i just assume you have a crippling methamphetamine addiction it's a but it was i i would say there would be 10 of girls in my high school were doing that shit it was a hot style well it's a little urban it was more like an old yeah i yeah maybe i don't i don't know if you know this but i got caught up and i started doing that with my pubes you drew them back on yeah i drew them back on earlier what color i drew a bigger bush

well obviously uh fucking jet black just just to really oh i i like to look like i like to look like an old man whose hair went gray and he dyes it just shoe polish yeah yeah just like where you go that's a bad job so this is what they said should you prefer your halloween costumes to have a more clothes and communism so if you want a little more communism they recommend doing grimes reading the communist manifesto so that's that's their halloween costumes is holding a communist manifesto or nude totally naked and the next article from cut is going to be like this halloween had the worst amount of sexual assaults yeah i wonder why that is uh the next i think is like we sort of made a

mistake there telling every girl to show up fucking tits out naked. Totally naked in high alcohol environments. There'd be a lot of chicks who are getting the fucking honky-tonk man treatment though. That fucking guitar pulled away from them and just smashed over their backs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to take a quick second here to shout out to the sponsor, sponsor this episode raycon headphones now i wore these all weekend where i was having the worst experience of my life on united airlines and it was it was a beacon of light in the monstrosity that was my airport because uh they last for a

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Oh, my God. It was. Which, by the way, everybody was like, like, it's obviously a really funny thing. But I guess like because I watched it, I was at like a like a fucking bar or whatever. And then I saw I was like on Twitter and then I couldn't quite hear it. And I go like, well, I don't get what they're saying. They're saying, let's go, Brandon. Let's go, Brandon. You thought it was that. And I kind of thought. And then I like the press. No, no, no. And then I couldn't quite hear it and I go like I don't get what they're saying they're saying let's go Brandon because let's go Brandon was trending

you thought it was that and I kind of thought and then I no no and then I listened to it again I'm curious if she was like really quick on her feet or just her brain just told her that that was let's go Brandon like and she just didn't like hear fuck Joe Biden and just was like let's go

Brandon funny because he's kind of like you can tell he can hear him as fuck Joe and because they're asking he's not an idiot like i uh the line um yeah the line changing and uh the chair is so funny that anywhere you know the for years it was the fuck trump shot now it's the trump but can you imagine like the opposite where it's like fuck trump fuck trump and someone comes up they're like they're here and they're all trending uh good luck chuck so uh good luck but it's just so funny like i don't know if that's an honest mistake but if it's not it's weird because i have no shame has like delays for this exact reason because there's many other sports things where it mostly is goes to the refs but like you know you go to like a eagles game or like philly or you know

notoriously like raucous crowds and they'll be like fuck the refs like you know they can't be on nbc so they have like a way of just kind of silencing it happens all the time like if you ever watch the nba like you'll just be listening and then it just goes silent for a second and that's why some player just goes get the fuck off of me and they just bleep it and then they just may have the five second button or whatever exactly they have the five second button so it was weird that nbc like they just let it go it's like they almost were that stupid like just yeah i guess or someone in the fucking because you know maybe the nascar crew because obviously nascar is pretty fucking

conservative maybe the crew who works the nascar is kind of like also they go like someone goes hey let me hit and it goes not so fast let's go it's not so fast let's go brandon yeah it's let's go brandon uh let's just let's let this go for a bit so i was going through uh every once in a while like i go through these uh the reddits that have the the first person story accounts but the polyamory ones are like so funny right so basically they're because it's very it kind of is the the point that these groups exist is all like girls kind of what i always say where people that try to do pirate lifestyles but they can't so they're they're really just like you're doing this like wacky lifestyle and there's

obviously a trade-off like if you're gonna be the guy that you know is in that world and you got like five girlfriends and all this stuff it's like the trade-off is you know you're gonna have all your time taken up you better it's gonna cost you a lot of money. The management perspective and all of it. You're probably not. That's like Dan Bilzerian was just talking when he had like 50. I almost rolled my eyes. He goes, yeah, I had 50. Shut up.

He goes, I had 50 girlfriends at once. And you go, okay. And he goes, yeah, it's like they just, it's all the, it's like. So basically what he's saying, it's just on a worse scale where he's like, yeah, it's just all the talking and man. It's like. But you've been single and having like 10 girl chicks on the roster or some shit over time.

It's a lot of fucking work. Well, it eventually becomes a time where you're just kind of like, this is crazy. Yeah. I'm not doing anything else. This is my whole life. Yeah. But with him, it is his whole life. Yeah.

Because that's his whole. And his brand. His job is that. So he actually, you rolled his job into that i do find it funny when you get the females because it's like sorry females for calling you females i know you don't like that but um the woman's perspective because women's like oh well guys do this i'm gonna fucking wheel 10 guys and you know like they're just like they're going i'm gonna do this too and then it all pretty much from what i read in the subreddit and what i know about being poly it always just comes back to the end of the day where you're like

yeah these guys aren't poly they're all lying to you they go you go i'm poly you go oh so am i let's fuck well yeah most got a lot of the guys in this world it's like they just want to have their girlfriend and then be able to like smash at their chicks on the side and this is a good way to do it like guys go go, yeah, I'm poly. Me too. Look at us, a couple poly people, huh? Or you don't want to have a girlfriend, yeah. I mean, dude, I've like,

the truth is every guy that was in his 20s on the scene like that, it's kind of like, every person that's kind of dictating a lot of people has said to some girl or another like i just don't know if i'm the guy that could be with one girl what your baby humans are meant for that dude we're fucking polyamorous creatures by nature and you know you just start talking and you the bullshit's just spewing out of your mouth and eventually the girl's like

whatever like obviously this is i'm i'm my bullshit detectors are going off but at the end of the day you've said no to what i've asked right it's like hey i was thinking that we should be together you go i you know we're all just creatures out in the water just animals down to the core we're just just primates and we just i've been like in my fucking 20s talking to some chick in my bed you know I just and you use this tone you know it's one of those things and just I've been able to be present enough to look at myself and go what the fuck

bullshit are you up to but the best is like women I tell girls I'm tortured I don't know if I honestly I just can't even bring you into my world because I'm such a mess I can't do that to you. I wouldn't feel comfortable. Just a fucking.

But it is funny with this poly stuff because it's clear. Like, so like women were obviously sexually repressed. Like they were relative to men. Then they were like, okay, here you're free to whatever. And they were like, oh, see, guys, like they're calling us sluts or whatever. And then they just wanted to put this like term on it. They go like, oh, you know, guys fuck around all the time. We don't call them sluts. And then we're like, so what's our thing? You go, oh, see, guys, they're calling us sluts or whatever. And then they just wanted to put this term on it. They go like, oh, you know, guys fuck around all the time. We don't call them sluts.

And then we're like, so what's our thing? And you go, oh, we're poly. And now they're trying to bring it back to guys being like, hey, I'm looking for poly guys. They're like, there's no poly guys. Like, they were the guys. They were the dogs you were calling them fucking 30 years ago. Then you called yourself poly to not feel bad about being a slut. And now you're calling them poly.

That is exactly right. And they're like, we're not paulie we're fucking what are you talking about every dude is paulie enough as he can get away with it exactly and the the thing the trade-off for this is like you know there's guys that you have a couple chicks or whatever are you dating some girl that you gotta pay for everything and you know maybe she lets you screw around every now and whatever the deal you get this the opportunity cost is you need to operate in this whole like world and you need to have these rules and you're kind of in this cosplaying yeah yeah and then also it's like your girl's like living her version of it where it's like they have some other guy that wants to maybe move into your like just all the

nonsense that comes around with this right yeah so there's always like a sacrifice and trade-off to whatever deal you want to get. But these girls, they're sort of like entering this world, like kind of like, hey, I'm wondering, this thing's not working out that good. And you're like, yeah, yeah, no, this thing's a mess. But for dudes, they're like, a lot of dudes, it's like, I'm willing, think about how many guys

go through, blow through so much money, so much time to like smash a nice piece of pussy and so the girls are kind of like this thing's a whole mess and the guys are like tired

exhausted it's like yeah I got to hit it though so for some guys he's like I have to pretend it's worth this trade off yeah I had to be a whole new life

I had to wear a weird hat I started wearing a weird hat it's mostly with polyamory i'm at the bar you know arguing about fucking polyness to girls it's like i had to get a tongue stud oh god she made me get a tongue stud yeah you know but for some guys that's worth it to be able to smash out of their chicks yeah but so it's just funny these smash at their chicks. Yeah. So it's just funny. These girls posting their problems, their relationship problems, but the poly relationship problems are so funny.

And this person said, why do polyam guys have a hard time admitting that sometimes they are maxed out at their capacity and promise more that would make sense? It feels like I'm being strung along. Because he's stringing you along. It's so funny like she's she's talking some guy she's like i want to smash you know and maybe we'll go for uh dinners and stuff and she's like he's like yeah i mean i have nine other girlfriends in tan clazarian cases your girlfriend number 51 being like you're gonna take me on trips right and for him he's like

sometimes the whole squad goes yeah yeah you know Yeah, you know, the whole squad. But he's just like, you know, we're poly. You know what the poly life's like. It's tough. Yeah, I'm around. He goes, I'm around. I'm poly. You're poly.

We're poly. He does do it right, though, because he goes, if you are going to do it, and it's like he does a trip with all 50 of them at once. Right. Because you know, how many times have you been with Eurochickens? Like, her friend goes on a trip with a guy and you're like what are you doing yeah and then

she's like when do we want a trip can you imagine trying to like if you wanted to do imagine you have seven girlfriends and then you go on a trip with two of them or no you go on sorry two trips with one of them yeah the other girlfriends are like two trips for her and none and not a single trip so you go okay well i'll have to do two for you now. And the third girl's like. I mean, you're a fucking. If you're that guy. Have the only girlfriend that doesn't get a trip.

If you're that guy, you're a fucking idiot. So. Yeah, she's like me. You're that guy. You rent a yurt. A reasonably priced yurt that fits all of you. It's like those big tents. Our buddy Graham has one.

That's the only way to do it is you have them all in a compound. Yeah, a compound. It's like, hey, you don't give me enough time. It's like, what do you mean? We had dinner together yesterday. It's like, well, alone time. It's like, that's going to be fucking tough. You know, we're poly.

It's a tough lifestyle for everybody. So she's mad when she wants people to add her as her like 45th girlfriend. And she's like, when we first met and smashed, he told me he was going to have plenty of time. And then turns out, like, with his job and seven other girlfriends two of which he lives with like he's not even able to do a weekend away with me and you go it sounds to me like what you want is a boyfriend yes again that's what it all comes back to is like they're trying to just sow their wild oats or whatever but they also want all the other stuff yeah they want their cake and eat it too and then they go oh i don't i don't like this also they want to you know it's kind of this thing it was like you know

normally they have all this like bs that they want from a guy right and i guess they're if they're poly they're like well i can sort of spread my bs to like a lot of different guys right maybe i kind of nag this guy a bit get this make the force this guy to come to some event with me but it turns out that every guy in that scene kind of just has their main girl. They do all that stuff. Within the other girls, it's like, listen, I want to have sex with you.

I mean, look, there's, we know a lot of various people from different kind of walks of life. There's a reason why, and people who listen to this do too. There's a reason why you don't know poly people really. You know the odd

one it's like a novelty or whatever it's because fucking on paper like maybe it seems cool but that's your whole world right sure we know the one guy who's like his whole thing exactly but if you make it your whole world then you don't have to do all this groundwork as much so let's say the only people around you are poly blah blah the only because then they're like isolated almost because then your girl's like what about this and this and this and you're kind of like look around that's what it is that's what we all do are you not poly wait you kind of are you not poly so you sort of get to put them in this thing right yeah but she said so context i've understood that while I remain solo polygam,

I have a dream of finding partners who are actually physically and emotionally available. Partners interested in sharing time with me and taking trips and spending the weekend together. Well, it sounds like you want a boyfriend. Yes. She wants someone that's emotionally available. It's like girls need a person,

for the most part, want more emotional availability than this so most guys that have their main guy main girl are already topped out yeah they're topped out before they've even started talking big time to girl number three yeah can you imagine like you're you're with the you have your main girl right you're doing all this stuff with and then you go on like a fun vacation you do manage to go on like a night away with this other chick like you go on a fucking one nighter trip take her to a hotel and she wants that night she was like yeah she goes but i want the weekend too and you go honey honey listen she wants all the emotional availability though she's like okay

let's talk about our feelings you're like this is i could do that back at the ball the thing too is i guess if you're in the poly lifestyle is i think the type of guys who are like not like i fuck a lot i'm poly kind of it's expected those guys are the super like emotional they might have to do all that stuff yeah so if you're lying you're lying about being that guy oh that's gonna be tough that's the extra if you're saying you're poly when you just want to fuck a lot and then you and then you go oh but there's all this emotional stuff i have to do it's a license to be tired out. Oh, big time. You are going to be a tuckered out little guy.

You think you want to be Tucker Max? You end up being tuckered out. Oh, that's good. There you go. I speak up about it saying, hey, it seems like you have a lot on your plate. I'm looking for someone more available. Why don't we slow down, grow a friendship, and then when things feel more level and open, but go slow.

Is this reasonable? I think so. She goes, it's not an issue of doing better. It's just an issue of being honest with oneself and the capacity. It's like, you know, some of my partners already have hectic career and kids. So, you know know why would they tell me that they're gonna have time for me it's like why would a man lie to me why why have men i'm having trouble historically lied to women if only there was this thing

i'm having trouble with it too I don't know you know what let's put a pin in that maybe we'll circle back we'll put a pin in it and circle back I can't figure it out we'll have to put a pin in that one nothing's coming to mind for me no but she goes I'm here and he's saying that he wants

to do this thing with me yet he does a life he has a family a hectic job but he still wants to have sex with me, yet he has a life, he has a family, a hectic job, but he still wants to have sex with me, but he's not going to have time to do all this other stuff that I'm asking of him. And... Why would he lie about doing the other

stuff? I saw in his phone that my name is Mike. Yeah. I don't... Something's not adding up here. He's like, yeah. like yeah so the girls they're basically all of their all of their like poly questions are just straight up like i can't find a boyfriend yeah and you know what so this is we've kind of discussed this like a little bit with other stuff but i think the issue here is that she first made her identity that she was poly and now she's being forced to fit the rest of her life around her identity that's correct right so she's like she's identity's

huge that's the problem is you go because i guess you know we've we talk we're chicks like well i don't know what my identity is and then they decide they go i'm poly and now they have to fit all this stuff around this where if you just lose that bullshit, just say, I'm listening to like, whatever, who cares about my identity? Just live your life.

You wouldn't have any of these problems, but because you're so dead set on being a Polly person, you have all these problems now. I think that relates to even what we were talking about earlier. It's like one of the big problems with the 25 to 30 era from everyone. Yes. Is that is true to you. Like you create so much identity in your, you know, high school and college. And then some of that identity that

you've attached to yourself doesn't serve you as you get older. So you're also struggling with, so that person that I said I was, and all these like things that I think I am like, even let's say you were like, you know, I'm the, you like things that I think I am like even let's say you were like you know I'm the you know how many girls struggle with like in their 20s in college their whole thing is like my whole life is I think I'm like helping people or whatever right and then you may be in some career where this like identity isn't really gelling with you start working for like a fucking like health insurance company and you go oh all I do is fuck people all day long huh yeah or whatever right yeah so I think there's so much of that too where you write your identity you you

created in a time when it was benefiting you like being that person at college even being like the fucking crazy party guy or something at college it was like benefiting you yeah and then or even for me potentially i get in trouble guy right and then you're like oh now i'm a fucking drug addict that i can't control it because i was trying to keep up this like i cool identity as the party guy and shedding identities that you've attached yourself to are so difficult it is difficult yeah i mean especially the ones that become negative that you kind of have like anchored yourself to yeah yeah it's tough well i thought the best way to describe this scenario in uh the simplest terms if i was to offer advice is just it's probably gonna be tough to get the full girlfriend experience from someone who has nine other wives yeah know what it is you know other guys go to rub and tug and they want the girlfriend experience she wants polyamory she

wants the boyfriend experience she's having which is like you think would be easy to get in any sort of, I mean, the women who this would pertain to don't listen to this podcast, but like stop making your sexuality your identity. That's a good point. It's like,

that's not like, that's a part of your identity. But you have to, I think a little bit. If you're going to be like, I have three girlfriends or whatever. But the problem that i say with all these people it's like this is the thing that i've been saying forever it's like when we were

when i was in my 20s i was like you know trying to be mostly single and it was kind of this idea of like yeah i guess i kind of usually had like a main girl i talked to mostly and then some other ones and you'd be like it's like when these people are like i have nine girlfriends it's like just sounds like you have zero girlfriends and one girl that's like the main girl you're sort of dating yeah exactly you're fucking dealing with and then and then it gets yeah and then it gets you fall you know you get little like it's kind of gets on there and you go they go what's this and you go all right time to fucking promote one from the farm team eventually one has to get caught one and you promote one because they get they had enough

and then they get yeah you literally you bring one up toxic boys unite there's this page called hoodville that fucking yeah you told me dude it's all like yeah you know it's all like when that when your fucking girl finally had enough of you and then five five days later you send her that text like hey i was just thinking of you you know what you don't have to respond to this but tell your mama i miss her it's all like she always goes hashtag toxic boys unite it's all like it's straight up like how to be a fuck boy page it's so funny maybe really just you know it's just like the guy lying in bed like texting the 45 girls telling them he loves him but it feels fucking hilarious you cut the player in a sports analogy you cut the player with the big contract that's not performing and then you fucking that's so funny you call one up you call one up you're

hungry you call one up call up one of the hungry minor leaguers but then on the show and then i think you replenish and then eventually you get to the point where you go listen i don't want to run a baseball franchise anymore exactly you know what i don't want the part-time job of running a baseball franchise you have to deal with all the you know you have to deal with all the emotions of the players you kind of take off and you go you know what i'll just be one player's agent yeah exactly you know yeah i'm gonna be more of i'm gonna transition to the agency side of this that's exactly what it is and then eventually you get tired of running a farm team yeah you go this farm team's like all of the players are

calling me non-stop with their problems you know what i mean eventually just go you know what i'm just gonna be lebron's agent i'll get into coaching i don't know yeah but the other one that was making me laugh even more i goes i'm in it's the same thing but this one's shorter we're not so he goes i'm in my first poly relationship my partner of one and a half years has always been amazing and comforting. Recently, she got a new partner. And since they came in her life, the partner has been completely different. I almost get no attention. And she goes, yeah, because the first part of a relationship is funner.

She's having more fun with that other person. And as in they as a non-binary? I couldn't figure it out because it didn't say whether they're a guy or a girl. I think purposely these communities are very like inundated with this stuff. But I think that this is a dude. This is a dude, but he's just using the word like partner and all the language

and stuff like that, right? But you know, a girl being or a dude kind of in the polyamory community. Or it's two lesbians. We don't know. But just to be in a relationship and then you go, go yeah yeah we've been together for two years and then they're have this new one and they've been hanging out more and all of a sudden they want to have me sex with me less and it's like what's up with that like what you didn't i don't know so i got this uh

i'm dating someone and we're poly and then when we first had sex, when we first dated, we were having sex all the time, and it was like super fun. Anyways, it's two years later, and then there was someone else. I mean, they're having sex all the time. Yeah, just like we used to. What's up with that? What's up with that? It's almost like they're doing the thing with this new person,

kind of like when we first started dating. What's up with that? What's up with that? Do you see what I mean? All these things are just them understanding basics. It's like they're just children. What's up with that? You don't know any normal people who could just explain this to you?

What's up with that? What's up with that? It feels like they've ruined everything we have been through. It feels like a competition, and they're doing things to spite been through it feels uh like a competition and they're doing things to spite me it's almost like no this is the best part i got my girlfriend flowers while i was on vacation and less than a week later he got her flowers on the same day so it is yeah yeah it is a guy so this guy's this guy or it's a guy when he got her flowers oh yeah yeah wasn't always not always a guy just a with the flowers, because that's a more male trait. So basically, they're showing up.

You come home, and there's flowers on the table. And you leave, and you get her bigger flowers. The guy gets her bigger flowers. And then you come home with chocolates. He comes home with bigger chocolates. And then you just hear, like, literally, like, you just hear, beep, beep, beep. It's like, what the fuck is that? It's your fat girlfriend coming home.

Dump truck full of flowers. How's that? Top that, fucker! Elements to hosers. But it's like the guy in them really starts coming out with the really competitiveness. It's something about Mary. Yeah, exactly. Dude, this person's life is something about Mary.

Top that, fucker you come home hey guys he's got her a singing telegram and you have to show up wait we're not getting played are we they're not gonna be something it's like yeah and then i got my ball stuck in a zipper fucking with us i got your tickets to the mets well guess what i got your tickets to the yankees i got your tickets to the yankees i got your tickets to the yankees while they're playing in california and then we're taking a trip what a fucking nightmare can you imagine you coming home and there's a big flowers on the table that your girlfriend's other boyfriend got her then you go i'll be right back I left something in the car, Arnie

Also, it's so much easier to be the other man Where you go The guy, the poly guy That doesn't have a main one He's just out there Fucking all the other main ones Just buying from The other man

It's so much easier to be the other man You have no responsibilities You just It's like It's just like a perpetual challenge You just go around Like fucking other people's girlfriends And all you're doing is just like

Pulling You're just grabbing fucking Flowers from the cemetery on your way from place to place. You're not even buying them because you're fucking too busy fucking. You don't have time to work. And the gifts seem so much better when they come from someone new, too. Imagine when you first start, it's like you take your chick to a fancy dinner or whatever, and she's like, oh, thank you. That's so nice of you. Nowadays, you take your chick to a fancy dinner, and she's like, that thank you that's so nice of you nowadays you take your chick to a fancy dinner and she's like that's it yeah or it's not even that it's

just kind of like yeah duh that's what you do yeah that's what you do that's what you signed up for you know maybe you get a thank you but it's not like any more of a thing no no no it's yeah it's these these relationships again love it nightmare nightmare scenario because all their problems are just like unless you're that dude but all these problems you're like yeah yeah yeah that's why people don't do this yeah that's why you don't know anybody who successfully has this yeah and again if they are they're not complaining about it because they're like if you went and you go doesn't it get competitive yeah no shit it sucks. This sucks, but I'm fucking that. But also just smash this one.

Yeah, exactly. But they go, you go, isn't that a nightmare? They go, yeah, it's, it's obviously a nightmare, but check out these titties. Yeah. And like, if you're, if you have one of your friends who is doing this successfully, you're going to know, he is going to let you know that he has this sick deal that's working out great for him, at least in his mind. Even if you go, oh, that's not for me. If he thinks it's working out great, he's going to let you know. Oh, you're going to know.

You're going to know. Then he goes, look at all this fucking smashing. I have a body who's like an old, like, he is like a weird dude. He's really into this stuff. But he's, but he is, he's living the lifestyle. Like he does all this stuff and goes to the conventions. And like, he is,

he doesn't work that much. And this is like his whole social life. The way that you'd be into like video games, like his, his life's built around this, not vice versa. Yeah. Like his whole life's built around,

like you said, the identity component. Cause I remember, we know the one guy, I'm not gonna say his name or whatever, his thing you'd be like yeah it's fucking sick and then you'd be like check out this one and you'd be like oh my god like don't show me that ever again what am i even looking at that's a girl because yeah yeah sick right like smash that i go oh god jesus

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But so a big article came out and the the purpose of the article it was saying can the future of comedy be found in socialism and this is the la times danny says yes i'm not so sure of course it is socialism cures everything and before we get in the article i'll just say the gist of what they kind of were saying was they're talking about you know this comedy co-op that like 30 people get together and they you know you see first off this is an improv thing yeah because improv notoriously fucks everybody over yeah like improv notoriously is like really takes advantage of people yeah because they basically get people to work for these places and they pay them in training from the other people there.

You know what it's like? It's like Tiger King, how you go work at the tiger thing. And if you work for free and like someone gets their fucking arm ripped off, but they're all just working for free this whole time. Just didn't get like upgraded to like a higher rung on like the tiger. You get your fake. This is what Kurt said this to they go. They're very good at paying people in things other than money. So they're like these institutions that operate in the sense of like a school a lot of ways

where it's like, yeah, you're getting or like an apprenticeship. But these apprenticeships become these like lifelong journeys for people a lot of times. Exactly. And the idea is you move your way up. So again. And 1% of you make it maybe yeah yeah yeah like maybe you can name five improvers off the top of your head but you know i'm talking about all the people who do like sketch comedy yeah no i'm saying it's lower than one percent or sorry

sorry sorry yeah sorry yeah i was being generous yeah yeah yeah a tenth of one percent maybe like yeah so that's what i'm kind of... And before I even got in this article, because this is that thing that sort of happens where a lot of times people are kind of just doing their thing. And because the media is so out of tune with everything, they come out and they make these bold statements because it aligns with what they want to say. And the truth is,

I don't want this to be a slight against the people just because like, dude, if you want to make your 25 people and have a co-op and do an improv club, that's fine. And maybe it'll do good. You know, it's like, that's not really the point here.

The point is the media, it's like how they think about comedy and how everyone in that world thinks about comedy it's like first of all oh can i just give one at least little pat on the back to the la times because they are super far left generally at least they frame this as a question and not saying well they don't they've they've at least the article they've also framed it as like the question's been answered yeah they go here's but at least like they're not like but yeah they thought yeah it's insane so there's and they kind of go back and forth of whether talking about socialization socialism in terms of like the

payment structure and socialism in terms of like you know how comedy should operate in general which is the funniest take ever of like a bunch of people like socialize their funniness to financially you know maybe i give you a socialize their funniness to financially you know maybe i give you a little bit of funniness maybe you're funnier tomorrow and i maybe uh hey you were a little uh too funny i didn't feel like you kind of gave me a little opportunity to be funny today so yeah we kind of share the wealth which is probably the least uh it's the same as sports where it's the most art form where it's very difficult to socialize

there's just such talent gaps yeah and like it's you know it's art it's not sports but the revenue created by those talent gaps can be the difference between like 100 million dollars and 5 million and that's what they're always having this conversation

about box offices and stuff where they're like why weren't these people paid equally it's like well the difference between names sometimes at the box office can be the difference between millions of dollars oh easily and so i don't know if like the just maybe because people don't know so ucb which is the upright citizens grade which is famous i don't know if they have them anymore i don't know if covid wiped them out i think they're getting wiped out they're trying to get bought out they're trying to get bought out but so like because people don't really know this so they were like the big improv thing it was started by amy poehler uh fuck i don't know the bald dude he's in stuff and two other people they were like became mainstream stars in like tv and stuff but then they were also making tons of

money off like people don't know that like amy poehler is like a quarter owner of ucb and she was getting rich and they she was getting made a few people like she was able to make uh broad city and stuff totally they definitely made a few people but like there was this point where everybody's like yeah so like you know you pay 200 for a class and then they put you like uh they say oh that was really good you you can do this like main stage show where we sell tickets but we can't pay you because like our rents are so high. And they would come up with every excuse in the book while like the owner was like on, you know, Parks and Rec. Like huge star.

You're like you're like you're loaded outside of this. I didn't really know this story. Yeah. Yeah. It was fuck. I can't remember the other guy's name because he's also like a big not super not to her level famous. But you know him. And then but they were like they're just like it was pretty fucking shady what they were doing they kept just crying poverty being like well you know our our we're not

doing that they're standing there with their pockets out kind of yeah being like we don't yeah like we we don't have the money to pay and i will say the thing about the socialism too is like comedy is generally a shitty business and this is going to be shitty comedy so you have to assume just making like adding socialism to this will make it an even shittier business right like you're like you're not helping the business element of this by adding socialism but i get the idea of that they what they are thinking of doing and one part of it is that the the things that they're providing so let me just backtrack a little bit so there's this thing where in every industry where whenever feedback comes from internally and not externally that's the number one thing

that gets corrupt right so this idea of like socialism and socializing, you know, based on whatever different factors, they are already doing this in most, you know, there's already Comedy Central making choices based on things other than, you know, on what they would consider fairness. So this idea of like socializing entertainment is already currently happening, right?

But the mix of corruption always comes from any like when you say academia the news they're peer-reviewed so the most corrupt places any government that doesn't have to you know listen to a voting or any sort of public it always come the most corrupt places are when there's the least external out front. So in standup comedy, that's why one of the reasons it's good is because you have an audience. So that's always been like that, right? But the actual principle that they're talking about of like socializing where we all own an equal part of this, like a co-op, this has been done in a, that's called a band. That's called an improv troupe. Like this isn't a new idea.

You're going to run into the exact problems that every single one of them runs into. That's correct. They go, hey, we can't pay the rent this month. That's true. But the bigger problem that you run into is one person is now insanely famous. There's the, well, there's, you know, the movie. I don't know if I saw it. I can't remember the name of it.

But it's with Michael Keegan Key or whatever. Key and Peele guy. Is that his name yeah okay and it's literally this is the movie it's about a guy oh no no no

that was fuck it yeah he's like at an improv troupe then he gets on you know the one Mike Bigley Mike Bigley

no no no this is no no no maybe Burbigley is in it Burbigley is his movie but it's Key from Key and Peele yeah but it's his movie

and he's the guy who basically he's like at the yeah exactly it is Burbigley and he's this guy who basically is like at the – yeah, exactly. It is perfectly. And he's this guy who's at this improv troupe. And then he gets on Saturday Night Live and it's all weird and everybody hates him and he's all rich now. And you're like – but again, he was the guy who's like carrying the fucking troupe.

Correct. While he was like the huge new upcoming star in this small improv troupe. And that's what happens. huge new upcoming star in this small improv troupe. And that's what happens. You know, so there is maybe a small enough scale where that would work. Like, for example, a marriage or a family where you say, hey, listen,

I'm making all the money, whatever. We'll still split it even, even. But the minute, even with a two-person duo, maybe a three, if you start to get to 25 people, let's say one person is now jim carrey is he split and he's made make one person's making the majority of the money now they're splitting it 25 ways they obviously just quit sure not yeah they quit and they go do their own thing so anyone that's making any disproportional amount is going to quit yes also imagine obviously imagine you're

the guy who's like oh i'm so sick like you know i have agents coming after me all this stuff and then there's someone who's just like you have to tell your agent like by the way i split my money with 25 people but also like then there's like the three people who are like on the lower bottom who shouldn't be doing like the thing is with improv it's like we all know there's so many people who go you have no business doing this at all and a lot of them it's just a all know there's so many people who go you have no business doing this and a lot of them it's just a hobby there's gonna be one person that you know does as much work as they can and their whole life is this yeah and they have calling meetings and that's all they think about that's their whole instagram is promoting and then there's gonna be another guy that like has a job is going to college yeah and they're like yeah yeah i'll show up and do the

performances this is a fun hobby for me. Yeah. And then, and the thing is like, I don't, I mean, I guess I don't know, maybe they write this,

but how do you go about getting rid of somebody? If it's like a co-op, what do you go, hey man, you suck so badly. You bomb every time you're on stage.

How do you get rid of the bottom? How do you get rid of the bottom people? Because it's obviously like, socialism is not about just fucking getting rid of the dead weight. That's true. It's all about keeping them on and supporting them.

And you can't be like... But that's who you're left with. Yeah. Well, that's who you're... Exactly. That's who you're left with. If you have this weird incentive structure... You know what other thing that was kind of striking?

By the way, I really want this experiment to play out. Yeah. You know what? Hopefully, it works out and some of these guys get popular. It might work out for... They might... Guarantee someone. Their thing might do really well and someone might get very popular. But, you know what hopefully it works out and some of these guys get popular it might work out for i guarantee someone their thing might do really well and someone might get very popular and but you know whatever yeah and then there'll be this awkward conversation where they have like the biggest movie in america and they just made 20 million dollars and they get 25 phone calls

being like hey remember that co-op we were in that you're still in technically because we did a blood oath. How do I go about getting that money? How do I go about getting my milli? Oh, yeah, I'm a capitalist now. Click. Yeah, right? But there's, you know, there is this like kind of idea where people always talk about like, why are some people optimism and why are some people pessimist? And there's actually you can sort of attach incentives to it.

Like it's for one, it's easier to be especially if you're less creative it's easier to be a pessimist because it's easier to say why things won't get better than it is to imagine uh scenarios where it would get better that don't exist yet right so you have to honestly be creative and that's why like entrepreneurial people are more optimistic right and whereas when you see people in the news or people that are commentators they're incentivized to be pessimistic and a lot of people and the pessimism does better in their line of work too it also does so exactly right and then even in people's own lives it's easier to go you know you go dude i don't have a job i don't have this like it's all of the potential things that you haven't thought of of how it could get better that's so much more difficult to imagine than how it might get worse i could get fired again i could get like cut off of this. This person could kick me out of their house. Like, so it takes more creativity

to imagine why things are gonna be better than it does to know why they're worse. And in this specifically, instead of, if they're not liking the way things are going and instead of imagining, you know, a new way, which is, you know, in my opinion, decentralization, you go, they go, we don't like the way that the things are going.

It's like, well well there's already uh an option that's uh that's tearing down the way the industries do things everyone's running their own personal little business like decentralization is the problem to like a problematic systemized if you don't like the way the mainstream is running it there already is a solution and that's like the decentralization of all these industries and i will say this just like because they're saying we got to start this thing or whatever but like in toronto in the 80s the kids in the hall just like they didn't have a fucking place they just went to the rivoli and they just did their show there they just were like you know they didn't go they like they didn't sign a job they didn't sign a lease exactly they like it to be like a job like they

didn't sign a lease the kids in the hall they just were like we're gonna put on a show where you like doing sketch comedy yeah and they're like we're just gonna put on a show like you know we know a million people do where there's no contractual obligation any week you should be like all right we're done with this yeah we quit we quit we're not doing this anymore and that's it and then they just like got big because they were amazing exactly yeah yeah so you know there's the there's the present ways of doing it than that and then there's these kind of like old ways. And they're just like, instead of being like, we don't like this, they go, remember that

old thing that like got tried a million times? They're like, maybe that here. Because it's almost just like not a creative way of thinking of problems. It's the difference between like problem solving and just like you can't leave like an ideology. But again, this is not against any of those people. Like there's probably, there probably is some super funny people in this fucking thing. You know what I mean? Yeah, one of them.

Yeah, exactly. It's basically just in music saying, hey, we're going to create a 25-person band, and we all own equally. It's like with the arcade whatever thing or whatever. No, no, no. Broken social scene. Those don't work like that. No, broken social scene.

That's the one where they have 25 people, right? Yes, but they all have their own different individual songwriting rights, and it's like they don't all make the same amount of money no i don't know a hundred percent and they don't like you know they'll be like oh uh broken social scenes playing and then everybody's like where's feist and she's like she comes never okay you might see her once when fucking once a year yeah yeah yeah then you get the rest of the riffraff who is like not fucking doing a wedding that weekend and then but like everybody's yeah, there's a pecking order. And one of you guys is a huge star.

And then everybody's like, there's a few other big, there's a few other devices. The one. Yeah. She was the biggest. Yeah. One,

two, three, four, a big Apple commercial. Oh, she's got lots of fucking. So they said more than a year and a half into the pandemic. We've come to,

to expect the unexpected. Perhaps the socialist revolution can start an improv comedy. probably won't but i'm gonna say 80 chance it does yeah there you go it's and it's speaking to the that it's speaking to the charged political moment of social reckoning when institutions at large and small are being re-evaluated on their diversity equity and workplace harassment policies so yeah four years ago well that was what you're kind of saying is my second point so the first point is that you know obviously when someone's jim carrey we're gonna it's gonna be difficult right but the bigger point is there these these kind of solutions is what the industry's already doing right so it's kind of solutions is what the industry's already doing, right?

So it's kind of like, hey, what about more of like a socialized thing? So if they're saying like, hey, we're this, they're kind of, you sort of present yourself as like, I have this conversation always with comedians even, you know,

because we're friends with so many diverse opinions, right? Like we have fucking buddies that do comedy where they're fucking straight up communists and all sorts of different, you know, that's the funny thing about comedy. It's like, you'll see your buddy, he'll do 10 minutes on like how men are the worst. And you'd be like, Hey, here's a tag for that. Like, cause you're so focused on like whether it's funny or not. Right.

And I think that, uh, with these people, it's like the idea here from like a straight up, um, branding perspective is they're saying we're saying we're sort of different than the industry. But the only thing different is like, we're a bit more of it. Yeah, that's true. Right? Because they're saying it's like, hey, we're like,

it's going to be like socialism and diversity and equity. And you go, oh, like Comedy Central. It's like, no, more. And then there's like the three straight white guys there who are like oh oh yeah i guess i'm gonna have to start sucking some dicks or something because this is getting scary but if you're this like underground thing and you want to be different from hollywood yeah well that this is what hollywood is right now so when you look at hollywood it's the equivalent of

being you know right now if you go i'm going to differentiate myself how it's like oh i'm going to support black lives matter that's gonna be my thing and you're just like that's what dude every actor is doing that and they're like do it more not you know so it's irrelevant of what the things are it's just it's not different it's kind of like what's already happening and that is the mainstream so it's not some like new thing that is the mainstream of entertainment right now yeah also these are just people doing pretend so just let them have their boy with these things have a lot of fights in that co-op again it's like you know exactly how this is gonna end this is gonna go full animal farm style there's gonna be the fucking guards there's gonna be like the lower

people they're gonna oh yeah they're to eventually split themselves up into a like higher class lower class it's going to just it's like i said if comedy theaters aren't a path to getting rich or famous perhaps one show at the los angeles performance world uh can show that there's power in socialism it's a model based less on propping up local celebs and more about supporting a theater because of its perceived morals and ethics. So the problem is kind of there's this idea that it'll be about like community or whatever. The problem is you're taking a bunch of people that like really want to be famous and that's just the it's like talk about uh there might be someone who is you know they're very bernie sanders principled the problem is i'm in this industry i've been in this industry my whole life every all these people want to be celebrities absolutely i'll tell you

what the people that are the most like you know they all want to be left wing they talk less about comedy and they talk like i was talking to you know some la people this weekend that are the most politically left-wing, they talk less about comedy. I was talking to some LA people this weekend that are the most of all this stuff. And you know what they talk about? Oh, so-and-so just did a late night thing. Someone got hired on this writing job. Oh, do you want to get on this industry?

They're all very, how do you move up this system? They want to be successful. They moved to LA or new york from their hometown they told their parents you know who a lot of times have money that i'm gonna be a fucking comic and their parents are like all right we'll support you it's like they want to be famous right 100 and the whole what was the line the morals and ethics line that you said they said a model that's based less on propping up celebrity local celebrities and more on supporting the theater itself yes because of its perceived morals and ethics okay people do not go to fucking watch comedy for the morals and ethics they watch it to laugh it's like saying i go watch the nba

for their morals and ethics maybe you're like oh some Oh, people do. No, no, no. You're like, I like it when LeBron James like fucking has good morals and ethics and all that stuff. Yeah. But he still has to be LeBron James first. Yes. Like you can't like, he can't just be like,

Oh, LeBron James, he can't make a basket, but man, his morals and ethics are great. But what they also described is like any theater or comedy club, which again, this works better in probably a small town where there aren't celebs. the idea of a comedy club it's there i mean the corner was that where

it's like you like the people there but really you're like oh that place is cool so that's what they're saying they're kind of like we all have ownership in this place that's cool which is to some degree true sure you know and it's like why is it cool it's like well we're the most you know this we're like the place you go if you kind of think all this stuff and we align with you and you're gonna see that kind of comedy yeah it's just all breaks down when someone's really famous they'll leave but the um or if there's like a you know or if there's a financial problem where they go hey like you for us to make like you know we're not doing that well so we need money to keep our lights on yeah it's just like a pretty standard problem.

And all the people. And they go, everybody, we need $200 from every person. And then people are like, I don't have it. Well, if someone. That's very true. And then someone has to be like, okay, well, you know, this guy over here, he has more money. So why don't you put in $600 and cover two of us? You're like, well, I want to own more.

And then he goes, yeah, I want more. And they go, no, no, no, we want. And then you have your literally goes, well, that that's not fair you have all your infighting because if someone owned it it's like that that is kind of necessary in these things too because these are very like age specific in a lot of ways so someone that's 20 kind of comes in or whatever and they build this whole thing and they have this vision well let's say 10 years from now 15 years ago everyone's left you just have a new people that weren't really part of this it's just going to keep it there's a reason why there's such a thing as a hierarchy like in a business a hierarchy works for that reason if your hierarchy doesn't exist and it's

just one flat column or like whatever you know just like one where everybody you know it's mayhem it's like it doesn't work so they're kind of saying all that they're you know right now the industry is driven by a white led power structure that marginalizes diverse voices. So we're going to do it differently. And it's just like, you know, there's like pop music is the mainstream of music.

This is the equivalent of being like, well, we're super pop music. Cause it's just, you know, they're already saying all that stuff. The comedy co-ops hopes to allow performers to set their own ticket prices and take advantage of the door so i mean we are you can already set your ticket prices yeah i mean nobody's stopping

you can already take your prices yeah i set my ticket not only that there's so many venues where they go yeah you can have the whole door just let me sell fucking chips and yeah chips it's a pretty basic part i guess now they're they're seizing the means of production. I guess UCB didn't. They're basing this on this other one where it's like they really scammed you. Yeah, UCB fucked you over. It's like they're coming out and they're like, we have this idea. Hear me out. I know it's wacky.

People can set their ticket price. You're like, what have you been doing for 10 years? They're like, UCB. But also, there's going to be four people who are super famous who are going to like, this is just going to turn into a new UCB. Well, that's the problem be four people who are super famous who are going to like, this is just going to turn into a new TV. Well, that's the problem. Socialists want to be famous. And there's a big career in being an internet socialist.

And they want to be famous more than they want this stuff. And that's the same. You know what I was kind of thinking about that's funny? Do you know on Love Island, you know, all these Hollywood people that make shows like that, they kind of come out and they say we're all for all the right stuff. Two people have committed suicide on that show. Like on the, like, like. No, afterwards,

because they do like a lie detector test. I was going to say, I was like, I might go watch it. So they do, well, they do like a lie detector test and some people, all this crazy stuff came out and they became the villains of the internet

and they killed themselves. Two or maybe more. I don't know. Some people have killed themselves, but it's like they keep doing it and be like where are your ethics now and they're like

yo I'm at the women's march bro yeah exactly yeah but I'll be at the women's march I didn't fucking pull the trigger I had expressed

that I was a socialist he said in a recent interview and they were like will you have a committee for censorship and cancelling comedians so someone was saying that facetiously to them

and they said what no that's a misinformed idea that when people hear a socialist or worker cooperative, they think censorship. So I'd just say, want to bet? Again, I'm like someone who likes good comedy gossip and kind of like infighting.

It's going to be fun to watch. Well, they're saying they'll deal with it internally, which might be like they put them in the middle of the circle and you go, shame. Yeah, yeah, shame. Struggle sessions. Shame. Shame. Shame. shame shame they all hit them with a feather shame so that's uh i mean the thing like you've just seen this idea a million times i mean it's a band it's just yeah it's like everybody knows that yes on paper this sounds great everybody will nobody will dispute that on paper

i don't know if it sounds that great on paper at least to them it does but you're like in practice the idea of it's romantic exactly and you're like great you know we all get to share in the money and you know that there's not going to be some mean dude who or person who runs it's always easy until there's money who takes all the profits yeah yeah like we're losing money like great who cares but it's like oh even better is when there's one owner who's fucking like struggling and is running this whole place and losing money and pulling his hair out and everyone's like ah it sucks yeah as long as we get our 20 bucks a spot or whatever i've seen that you know and then you're like oh the person's fucking turns it around and is making all this money and people are like what the fuck yeah you're making money off of me

but yeah then there's the extremes where the like you said a ucb where it's the opposite it's like i mean it's to some degree there is like a social pressure for owners to you know operate somewhat reasonably yeah like within market rates of like what it is no question ucb were pieces of shit well yeah you look around everywhere else and they go there's how much they're paying they're like how much do you pay and they're like that's the thing have you ever heard a little thing called slavery how much how much do you pay people it's like we well if anything we gave them a million dollars worth of improv courses so we the way we see it, they owe us money.

And we've been nice enough to cancel that debt. It's kind of an indentured servitude scenario. They're just working off the... Snake eyes, pal. So I'll just do a couple more things here. They go, this one is kind of funny. And again, I hate, I'm just trashing this guy. Like this guy just might be some improv guy and he might be funny. But he goes, I was at one of the early funny. And again, I hate, I'm just trashing this guy. Like this guy just might be some improv guy

and he might be funny, but he goes, I was at one of the early meetings and James asked, what's 2% of 2000? And I threw the number out, says the actor comedian. Oh, it's $40. And he was like, oh God, you're good with numbers. So you should be the money committee. So this guy who can understand simple arithmetics got it.

I mean, honestly, that was one of the things that I was most made sense. I go, yeah, I guess you're letting people play to their strengths. 2% of 2,000. It's like, how funny. So you're the only guy in the whole improv team that can do simple percentages. And that's going to be the guy who basically ends up embezzling all the fun. He's like, these idiots can't even take.

He goes, how fast fast you have to like even the the dumbest like the person who's like really not good at math you go it's two percent of one thousand you could do in about 10 seconds or you know 10 milliseconds they know you just double that it's like yeah yeah there's always something that embezzles money well they finish the show they have a thousand000 in their pocket. No one was really keeping track. And then they're like, all right, let's split that 25 ways. And you go, yeah.

We will split that $500 25 ways. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The 300s get split. 300. Split it up. Split it up. Oh, shit. Yeah, they're having fun.

It's more of an LA times in the media that's what i'm saying it's like a bunch of people want to start their 25 person thing and do an improv thing and you know what there's a chance that one of them pops off and that's like anything else but this you know la times being like is this the future of the entertainment industry no the future of the entertainment industry is decentralization that's yes unless it was government imposed the future of the industry is like clearly look around at who's popular who's doing well and what the trend is the trend is

that people being able to speak directly to their consumers and directly to people who like them they didn't even reference that the whole industry's changed where it's like if you want to write a book you can just make it you can put it on the internet if you want to start a YouTube channel you can just do that you can be supported on patreon.com

slash the boys cast by people who directly specifically like you without going to comedy central and demanding that their gatekeepers uh you know approve of what new what people younger than them like in a culture that they're out of touch with so no that's the future but it's amazing that in this article that's purportedly journalism. And then they ask this question, is this the future? There was no thing where we go, or maybe the future is like,

you know how we go on YouTube every day and TikTok and all that stuff. Like that never just came up. Yeah. That might be the future. You're going by, you go, all these people. You're the LA Times,

the epicenter of fucking entertainment in the world. That's correct. And you go, all these people like YouTubers and you have the dumbass walls with the influencers, take photos of, and that never even just pops up in the article. Maybe that's the future? Maybe this new thing that has clearly presented itself as the future, undebatably, where you go, who's the biggest celebrities in the world right now? Mostly Dixie, Demi, whatever the the fuck you know what i mean yeah uh and you go i wonder what the future

is maybe it's if 25 people get together in certain improvs socialism improv troupe but my my beef is with you know la times just like this the story should be like some kids formed an improv troupe yeah we wish them the best yeah honest Yeah. We wish them the best. Yeah. Right? Yeah. We wish them the best. We'll check in with them in a year to see where they're at.

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