The Breakdown - Second-Largest US Bank Says Crypto Is Too Big to Ignore
Episode Date: October 9, 2021This episode is sponsored by NYDIG. On today’s episode, NLW covers some of the topics he’s missed throughout the week, including: A new report from Bank of America that calls digital assets �...�too big to ignore” US Bank custodying crypto via NYDIG An underperforming jobs report Bitcoin futures ETF speculation hits fever pitch Chainalysis report on global adoption BitGo sees growing corporate interest The Federal Reserve says it's going to start researching a CBDC NYDIG, the institutional-grade platform for bitcoin, is making it possible for thousands of banks who have trusted relationships with hundreds of millions of customers, to offer Bitcoin. Learn more at NYDIG.com/NLW. Enjoying this content? SUBSCRIBE to the Podcast Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1438693620?at=1000lSDb Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/538vuul1PuorUDwgkC8JWF?si=ddSvD-HST2e_E7wgxcjtfQ Google: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9ubHdjcnlwdG8ubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M= Join the discussion: https://discord.gg/VrKRrfKCz8 Follow on Twitter: NLW: https://twitter.com/nlw Breakdown: https://twitter.com/BreakdownNLW “The Breakdown” is written, produced by and features NLW, with editing by Rob Mitchell and additional production support by Eleanor Pahl. Adam B. Levine is our executive producer and our theme music is “Countdown” by Neon Beach. The music you heard today behind our sponsor is “Only in Time” by Abloom. Image credit: Andriy Onufriyenko/Moment/Getty Images, modified by CoinDesk.
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Welcome back to The Breakdown with me, NLW.
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What's going on, guys? It is Friday, October 8th, and today we are doing a bit of a grab bag,
extended brief type episode. This week has been so chockful of things happening that I haven't had a chance to talk through
a number of different stories that are all reasonably important on their own terms. So let's dive
in to the show. First up, let's talk about US Bank. U.S. Bank is the fifth largest bank in the
U.S. and they have made a major move into the crypto sector. They have just announced that they're
launching custody for crypto assets. Now, it is sort of a random set of digital assets that
suggests that maybe their clients have been holding for a while and need different terms,
so they're going to be custodying Bitcoin, which makes sense.
They're also going to be custodying light coin and Bitcoin cash,
which don't strike me as necessarily the highest in-demand assets right now.
They also say that Ethereum is in the works.
It's an offering for private fund managers in the U.S. in the Cayman Islands,
so not just a retail offering or anything like that.
And it's being supported and enabled by, big surprise, this show's sponsor, Nidig,
who are quietly enabling Bitcoin.
and crypto infrastructure for it seems like half of the financial institutions in this country now.
So why this matters? Well, it's one thing for these very big traditional banks to give
lip service to the importance of this industry. It's another thing entirely for them to actually
build the infrastructure to offer products to important clients that they already have.
Every single time that happens, Bitcoin and other digital assets get woven more deeply
into the fabric of the financial infrastructure of the U.S. and the world as a whole, and inevitably
that makes Bitcoin more lindy, more likely to continue surviving. And of course, the thing about
Bitcoin is that the longer it survives, the more people feel like they have to pay attention.
Which brings us perfectly to our next bit of news, which is from the Bank of America.
Bank of America is the second largest bank in the country, and in July they spun up a
crypto division. They've now launched research on digital assets, and it's the theme of their first
report that has people pretty jazzed. The name of the piece overall was digital assets primer,
only the first inning, and the key headline was this. Digital asset sector, too large to ignore.
Let's actually just read the first page overview because it's not too long, and I think it gives a
good sense of all the things that they're interested in. Quote, with a $2 trillion market value and
200 million users, the digital asset universe is too large to ignore. We believe crypto-based digital
assets could form an entirely new asset class. Bitcoin is important, with the market value of
around 900 billion. Editor's note, we're now backup above a trillion. But the digital asset ecosystem
is so much more. Tokens that act like operating systems, decentralized applications,
without middlemen, stable coins pegged to fiat currencies, central bank digital currencies to
replace national currencies, and non-fungible tokens enabling connections between creators and fans.
Venture capital, digital asset, and blockchain investments were $17 billion in the first half of 2021
dwarfing last year's $5.5.5 billion. This creates a new generation of companies for digital
assets trading, offerings, and new applications across industries, including finance, supply chain,
gaming, and social media. Bitcoin was designed as money, but it is increasingly viewed as
digital gold. Ethereum created a generalized platform powered by smart contracts,
enabling the development of hundreds of applications that could transform finance, insurance,
legal, real estate, and many other industries. Digital assets that enable applications to be built,
like the Apple iPhone did with its app store, are gaining the most value. Our view is that there could be
more opportunities than skeptics expect. In the near future, you may be able to use blockchain
technology to unlock your phone, buy a stock, house, or fraction of a Ferrari, receive a dividend,
borrow, loan, or save money, or even pay for gas or pizza. Decentralized finance is an ecosystem
that allows users to utilize financial products and services, such as lending, borrowing,
insurance and trading without relying on a traditional financial institution. DAPs may bring financial services
to many of the $1.7 billion unbanked globally through a simple smartphone app. NFTs are changing the way
creators connect with fans and receive compensation and Gen Y and Gen Z along with a few boomers are
snapping them up. NFT sales were $3 billion in August up from $250 million in all 2020, led by demand
from celebrities, corporations, and individuals. Obviously, as you can tell, this is really a,
wow, this industry has everything, it has so much going on. And of course, there are many partisans
and many areas that will take issue and umbrage with many different parts of what they have written.
But that's really kind of not the point. The point for many is that they're writing it at all.
Now, there are many questions floating around out there and kind of a lot of rampant speculation
about Bank of America's financial solvency at the moment. They lost a lot of money in the first
two quarters, and there are many, especially in the Wall Street bets crowd, that are asking questions
about them. In that light, it's possible that they're quickly trying to catch up and looking for
an edge. As someone tweeted, the banking industry finally waking up and realizing they are victims of an
innovation lag, the banks are currently in the blockbuster movies, Border Books, music industry,
Kodak position here, and it may be too late to evolve. I sort of think that for our purposes,
it doesn't actually matter. Put it this way. Scenario 1 is that Bank of America is healthy,
solvent. And they think that this whole digital assets thing is way too big to ignore.
scenario two is that they're not healthy, they're not solvent, they're worried, they're concerned,
and they think that the digital asset space is big enough to help save them.
Either of those scenarios are bullish.
So again, what matters more than anyone detail is that headline, too big to ignore.
And this is something that I've had a few people ask me, where I really think these markets are.
If I had to say in a sentence or two, what the state of the crypto industry is, I keep coming
back to this idea of on the verge of mainstream, we are way more mainstream than we've ever
been before. There are still these challenges, and you can't say that it's fully there yet,
but it is on the verge in a way that it has never been, on the cusp of something mainstream.
And I think that this report, whether it comes from a place of genuine enthusiasm or just
ass covering and opportunism reinforces that.
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As I said, there are a lot of things that happened this week that I haven't had a chance
to cover, so let's get to them.
First of the jobs report.
So the Friday after every month ends, we get a report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics
about how the last month went with regard to jobs creation.
In September, non-farm payrolls added 194,000 jobs.
That is the smallest number this year.
It is also way below estimates.
The median estimate for economists asked by Bloomberg was 500,000 jobs,
so we're talking about the median estimate being 250% higher than when it ended up being.
Indeed, only one economist that Bloomberg surveyed had anywhere approaching that smaller number.
There was some other news in this report as well.
Unemployment is down to 4.8%, which is a good thing, right?
Sort of, but it also reflects a decline in labor force participation, especially among women and
adult black men.
Now, the real question is what this means for the taper.
If you'll remember, the Fed has been emotionally preparing the market for a couple months now
that a taper, particularly around bond purchases, is coming as soon as this November.
The question is, were there macro scenarios that would take the Fed off that taper?
Remember, the Fed's mandate is two things, financial stability but also full employment.
The Fed has laid out a test for themselves of substantial further progress for the labor market
improving to actually go through with this taper.
After the last Federal Open Markets Committee meeting, Fed Chair Jerome Powell said,
quote, a reasonably good employment report for September was required to meet that substantial
further progress test.
The question is, was this a reasonably good report?
And I guess that's in the eye of the beholder.
Bloomberg writes, Fed's seen pushing ahead with November tapered despite payroll miss.
Jobs likely meet the test for, quote, substantial further progress.
Reading that article after reading this report makes it clear to me that the nice thing,
from the standpoint of the Fed, is that these are completely subjective measures dictated by
almost nothing, because the worst report that we had all year with more people leaving the
employment market doesn't really seem like substantial further progress.
But here we are, and it's going to be what it's going to be.
Next up, Bitcoin ETF speculation is reaching a fever pitch. Bloomberg writes,
Wall Street could get four Bitcoin futures ETFs by the end of the month.
So there are a huge number of Bitcoin futures ETFs that are coming up for approval this
month. Pro shares, Invesco, Vanek, Valkyrie, Galaxy at the beginning of next month,
and the Bloomberg intelligence analysts are pretty high on this.
Eric Balcunis, who is one of their lead ETF analysts, has previously put the odds at 75%.
James Seyfart says, quote, we're pretty bullish on approval here.
We just can't see Gensler and the SEC going out of their way to state positive comments about a
1940 Act Bitcoin Futures ETF at the end of September, and then denying all of them less than a
month later.
Nate Grassee, the president of the advisory firm ETF store, says something similar, quote,
given that ETFs have been tirelessly pursuing Bitcoin ETFs for over eight years now,
it seems somewhat disingenuous for the SEC to encourage more filings at this point only to disapprove
them. Approving futures-based Bitcoin ETF seems like an easy win for the SEC and Chair Gensler to get a
win in terms of appearing forward-thinking on crypto. Of course, for those of us in the industry,
the question is what it will actually mean for markets. As I said on yesterday's show, I think that
it's going to be more about narrative, about Bitcoin getting some type of approval in the traditional
US system, even while there are big questions around stablecoins, defy, etc. That's a narrative win.
I don't necessarily know what it changes in terms of investor access. Are there?
some set of investors waiting for this type of futures ETF and who haven't gotten in yet but will
when that happens? I'm not sure. But again, we'll have to wait and see. Next on this quick
hit list of things to cover for the end of the week, Shiba is up 400%. Should we quit this industry?
Just kidding, I'm not covering this. In a permissionless world, things like Shiba will always exist.
It is best to ignore them and move on. And if you do happen to hold Shiva, God bless. Dinner is on
you next time. For a chain analysis report on global crypto adoption.
Chainalysis looked at the number of crypto wallets between January 2020 and January 2021,
and found that they jumped 45% to 66 million.
This is not the only report that chain analysis has done this year showing that crypto is growing.
In August, they published a global crypto adoption index that found an 880% rise in global adoption,
driven by peer-to-peer trading and use in emerging markets.
One of the things that I found most important and interesting about that report was in it,
Vietnam, India, and Pakistan top the adoption index. Now, of course, one can quibble about the way that
chain analysis decided to measure their adoption, et cetera, et cetera, but I think it's really important
that we remember that when we talk about the utility that Bitcoin has or that crypto has,
we can't just have our perspective be the U.S. We can't just have our perspective be anywhere
with a fully functioning traditional financial system. It was the relevance of Bitcoin to global
markets that got me interested in this industry, and it continues to be one of the things that I
find most important. All right, we're almost done. Two more quick ones. First, BitGo sees growing
crypto interests. One of the key narratives, obviously, of late 2020 into early 2021, was this idea
that corporations were going to start putting Bitcoin on their balance sheets. And really,
that was going swimmingly until Elon boffed it and backed away from his Bitcoin commitment and
started going in on the energy concerns after they had actually put Bitcoin on the Tesla balance. And
sheet? Well, apparently this is starting to come back because Darren Jordan, the managing
director of EMEA at BitGo, said that corporates are coming to them and asking about adding Bitcoin
to their balance sheets in a pretty regular clip. At the Token 2049 conference in London this week,
he said, the dramatic change, and I have this conversation many times per week, is with
corporates, and they are looking to allocate a small percentage of their balance sheet. This has been
the most significant change we've seen over the last 12 months. I think that if you see another corporate
balance sheet announcement around the same time as a Bitcoin futures ETF, even if that changes nothing
really about market structure, it's going to put the narrative into overdrive.
And lastly, a Wall Street journal piece from this week, Fed prepares to launch review of possible
central bank digital currency.
From the article, officials will release a paper and solicit public comment but are unlikely
to decide soon on government-backed cryptocurrency. I just wanted to point this one out as
such a great example of the utter confusion and lack of clarity and lack of purpose that the Fed
has around a central bank digital currency. It's like at first we were going to get plans from the
Boston Fed in conjunction with partners at the beginning of the summer and then that changed to later
this fall, but now they're just launching a review. I think that there are big questions around
the right way to do a CBDC and whether a government should or anything like that. But I think
it's absurd that there isn't just some commitment to figuring out at least what they want to figure
out. Anyways, I just thought it was funny that this is somehow news, even though it's the most non-news
story I've ever seen. Anyways, guys, I hope that your week was awesome. I hope that you're heading
into a wonderful weekend. Go pick a pumpkin, go eat an apple, grab a scented candle, have a good
time. Until tomorrow, be safe and take care of each other. Peace.
