The Breakfast Club - 2 Chainz chats about his mothers addiction, intuition, HBCU life and miss 

Episode Date: October 6, 2025

This weekend Loren sat down with 2 Chainz to talk about his new book, his relationship with his mom, his career in general. Thank you for your patience with the difficult audio!YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BreakfastClubPower1051FMSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, y'all, what's up? It's Lauren La Rosa, and this is the latest with Lauren the Rosa. This is your daily dig on all things, pop culture, entertainment news, and all of the conversations that shake the room. Now, it is time for one of those conversations because I was at, well, I had the privilege of joining two chains in conversation, live in conversation, during this year's CultureConn that took place here in New York City.

And CultureCon is all about the creatives, but I think it's a great place for you to understand and learn about business and stories. and you know how to bridge a gap between the two to make a successful career from the successful person themselves so that's what i talked to two chains about he also has a new book and he also has a new book the voice in my head is guy that drops early march and he has a film out it's called red clay it's not out yet yet it's actually uh being seen at film festivals all over right now but it's very personal um he's opening up about his mother's addiction for the first time he's opening up about you know, the internal conversations he has with himself. And we get into why right now and all the things. Take a listen to To Chene's and I at Coach O'Con. How are you? You're doing good.

You're doing it. We are doing amazing. Ben, I am really excited over this conversation. I want to start off because we talk about a lot of your athletes getting you on out here. But we got a new one to act off. You have your book coming. The voice is in my, I'm sorry, the voice in my head is God. That is a heck of a title.

Can you talk to me a little bit about the title and choosing the title of the name of the book? Well, when I chose the title of my book, I was working on a book and I was doing my mess not to be compared to any other artists. A lot of artists like to do autobiographies that are sometimes troubled for, past deal with who struggle the most and you know we've all started to tell we all couple you know

different tribes and backgrounds but when i was working on this book uh i had stories and i had some ideas and i always had a voice in my head my mom used to tell me that asked me who the hell i'm talking to and when i was doing research for the book i was looking at some of the mail that my college to write because three is it. And then every envelope people would say, God is love. God is love. God is love.

I rather do it. I just ignored it for a long time. And then one day I took the E-Sound and I put an equal sign and I say, God equals love because there ain't no love and ain't no God. So I start building the idea from my book behind that and start, you know, really thinking

and the reason I'm right here, yeah, I grew up with my children and with the success that I fight like I have because I quiet down the outside voice and I listened to the voice of my head and I feel like if God is supposed to be in you that might be that might be where the voice is that's how I came on with the book well first of all shout out to you because I think when you amass so success like you have there are a lot of times where you know people don't give it on the God and I think to see in here you do that it's bias for you know where you're on your adventure. Can you talk to me a bit about what happens when the voice in your head is it God and can you hear other voices and noise? What's that?

Yeah, so I have a chapter in a book called the bucket voice. I think we already have a fuck it for us. We notice something, right, and you just do it in, but we'll say, fuck it. I guess the way I could tell that it's not God and it can't love you dig what I'm saying. That's kind of how I shine for the beginnings that I have for my book. It's not religious. It's Facebook. It's not like. I have chapters from the Bible and anything like that I think it just feels with discernment and wisdom that you get I feel like being with sure a little bit later than females so I I honestly think like a bomb a pop of females in my panel they already had the super power this thing about being intuitive and having that tradition for me and for a lot of men I think we give that length so what I

recognize that I mean I just listen to these boys doing everything the way I go home listening to this voice when I'm put on and listening to this voice just everything I need you see father this voice in my hand well you have so right now you had you know the book coming and then you had direct play then it's also very vulnerable very curse girls love why right now get so personal it you know divulge so much like what was the conversation that you're having with that voice that me teaching you want to open up about so many things in well a lot of the things I think that I went through when I was younger I'm embarrassed to talk about.

I'm embarrassed to to revisit. And I look at a lot of the art that I'm putting out now in this, a poem appeal. You know, with red clay, my short fan feels, but the relationship I have my mom growing up than I, that when I, it's in a festival running right now, so that's why people can't see it.

But I, when I did the festival in Atlanta, and I had like a meeting real stage, and our Q&A. When I did my Q&A, I noticed that I had my head now because I had friends in the crowd and I had relatives in the frown and I was truly, truly, truly in bad. And then when I did another, say, one in Denver, another festival, I was able to keep my head on my chin up because in the home that didn't know me and I felt like I didn't care what their opinion was. So a lot of stuff that you send up for me with is my short pill or my book of speeches, um, pillet some layers back. I'm just trying to yield on my own and understanding it, you know, we all don't go working. You've always been a person that people point to you and say, you know, you are, you are you glad for that, yes, you're back for that for sure. I'll appreciate you.

You always have in the first step, you put up to say, you know, what you see, what you get. You're very honest, you're very authentic, you're very choosier yourself. But you said you had your head down doing that screening, and I cannot, you know, imagine that what would you think your first time is tough, especially at where you are in your life. like but personally behind the curtain what was it like having a conversation with your bomb after she saw the film and just even in writing your book people you talk about in the book and the spirits is having those conversations what was that like for you it wasn't traumatized retops it was it was very hard my mom came to a beset the whole week of shot short film but she never came inside so she she knew i was shooting a little bit but she didn't

know what it was she just is a support system she was a pro but i'm my old child You know, that's with a Titty boy named Kate. Um, it couldn't be like, you know, it said, being in a running a long long term. So he used to be like, he says, Titty boy, they come to me, right? With it up, Titty search, guys are no crazy, no strip pole, I'm reading her right.

I'll be like, one more, she just, you know, you just, you just, so, um, she was there for the support, but then I got a copy of the short video and she came over to my house. You know, you just ring her on your phone to the TV. Yeah. Yeah.

And for probably about, I would say about five or six weeks, I never mentioned that I had to cover back because I didn't know how she was going to react to it. In a nutshell, in a nutshell of all our boys together, I see. Nunchield, I'll mind out. So, all right, in a nutshell. It's okay. It's not true.

You have a truth. And so in a nutshell, I had. I don't know if I had two. I don't want to be judged, but there was a situation where I had to be the one to sell my old mom drugs. And that's what I'm saying. And it's something that I don't wrap about. Talk about it. I don't talk about it.

I don't talk about it. I'm trying to be harder than the next person. I'll talk about it. It's nothing like that. So when I ate this field, put this film together, and I was just all playing about me having to do this with someone. How does so much the public? You know what I mean? It was just a strong.

on her shoulder to her, she's not there anymore. You know what I'm saying? This is old story. So when she able to see that, I'm up 75. When she able to see that right now, it's like, I describe what's being on the other side of the mountain. It's like this tall mountain. We have climbed this mountain.

But now we're on the moon side, or way down on everything. So the field, much like the book, it's very, very personal. It's something like, you know, I know I, for how a sense of human, I smiled a lot. A lot of that was defense making issues that got me through high school.

She's like, I was smile at the fame. That was like, my biggest smile that out behind you, the most of it is any of that. That's how we know who through, like, high school, and there's someone who's just ready. Can y'all get the sound right, that it's like, okay, in loud? Yeah, no, I'm not here.

It's the feet of your number up here, but I can get to get out there. But, I mean, I think, I think the point that you're arriving at that, and you tell me, you know, I'm wrong, but I'm like my whole spiritual journey, I got so fun where I was okay continually the stuff I was going through, because I felt like, but I got to do this, so he'll get me through this, and I'm not, so now I'm able to talk about it. I can't, kind of have almost like, it's your testimony. So that's what we're witnessing. You're kind of like a testimony paid through the life at this court. So, I mean, you're happy to hear, you're training here, and you mentioned college. So, you've been to Chicago. So I know you went to Outfina State at one point, graduated from Virginia State? Yeah.

Yeah, I graduated. I have a psychology degree. I don't think about people. So I have hope. I think I have brother, brother wide range. I have everything from being, um, locked up at 15, juvenile proposition of park here. in the Columbia and the college degree and then all the stuff in between that. And so I do feel like I'm qualified to talk about so Larry, you know what I'm saying,

that's about the spirit of something. What was your college experience like? Because, okay, so you have this like as you learn in your book and in the Reclean film. And you guys, there's a QR pool to get skin to free-worded the book of Writers, by the way. So you make it through all of these, you know, very tough focus that you just talk about. And then you get to college. Were you first generation college student? No. No.

No. But to school, I found out my dad what the college at his funeral. I didn't even let the studio in their locker here. You know, nigga they tell for that, I just, you know, it was still like the Army and surprise or stuff. But don't for them all in my mind, someone others were in the school. So, yeah, but I think how it's the school, like, it just makes sense on my own, no one forced me, no one, and no fault for law park.

I took over the house, you know, I was waking the other school. I just, I like going to school. I like dressing, first of all, I like putting up clothes. I like the female. No, people think, you know what I'm saying? I never made the seat before about all. I went to the college young and I think it's supposed to be going. If I haven't made, you know what I was,

so I was able to go through her in the scholarship and then, then I can get to college you learn and all you got to go to class and do the work. And I was able to graduate and move all of my wife, But, you know, it's another shepherd. It's like another champion. Two changes. Which is a big challenge because, I mean, I'm not to HBCU,

and I talk a lot about the experience of being on a campus and how I, you get so much just from that. Don't even think about the classes. The classes are great, but just be you on campus. Oh, yeah, yeah. It changes your life. How did it go to an HBCU? Like, how did that experience mold you into the PC today?

Right here. Well, first of all, I've been my wife at college. Oh, I don't know that he was. I'm very so you see how that turns out of the end story but I live a lot of my friends there I'm all I was already with social butterfly I'd like to be around I like to be around what's going on and so I fang you on to a hbc you allowed me to be more indoors and what costa is from different places because when you go to college people from everywhere not just from Lowell, so I was just like a local, local, local Joeville, when I was in college

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You mentioned video Mike for college. Love that score. We also watched your propose at Quebecada and, like, you know, all the great things. What was your conversation, Mike, with that voice in your head at the five we can say, I'm one and proposed. I mean, you guys have been together for some years,

but what was that conversation? I was that conversation at the pool. That's not exactly good. This crazy. Okay, look. Let me take the picture. Okay, maybe. You know, maybe only place, like 35 dollars on the plate, right?

So I get invited by El-Otelling by Pasachia because I'm doing a collaboration with Pasachia. Man, in my phone bustleady, you got these shoes, showy reactions with Pasachia. So they invited me, you know, each of them as an answer. as an S of the bank, yeah. Yes. Let's start there. And so as we get in, actually, let's go to fifth half, and we can spend on up to $100,000 at the Pissotia.

So we upstairs and we drink wine, and we walk around in the Pesha groves. It says, I'll get some money up. Yeah. I'll get some money up. Oh, you like this, I'll get it anyway. You get it. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm going to get it. I'm like, I'm just trying to think it's something like the Duke. They could be historic and last, or after me, right? So I go to matured, I'm gonna say, man, you know, I think I'm gonna do, you know what I'm gonna do, you know what I'm gonna do it. And so I get the brain, I got an all set up, you know what I'm saying? And so fast forward to William Pan Gounder's a crime. And they said a lady prepare us to Duke, you should make up.

You don't clue somebody. You know what I'm saying. So I can play by trying. You get me makeup, sure. sure is silvers and uh begin from the med gallant now I'm getting kind of a little nerd this book I'm like we're here now and I remember they held the Met Gallup line the 12 verse in this property then they held up that Galapalio and then I'm gonna say Rearca so Rearcan she still all the spot so I said maybe this is dogs and demeanies yes

do this another time right maybe this is right too So we get out there, we pose and stuff, so teach you a little bit of waiting. And I go, like, and the rain will come out. And so I'm like, I'm like, he sent a little lives and buck to open out. It's the inside pack. So now flies. Right. So I'm right to say, fucking, really, I'm, how you're great?

This, I don't know, it's opening them up. It's all the rain just like, just like, open the bar to make. I'm like, this is, this is me. And so I'm supposed to be trying to go in here and come out. And many, 50 years, I'm teaching with 50, many, many years. I was seeing wrong processors on time, and I got shot in my head, right? And so when I, when she turned around and I'm on what neat, teacher did not all I would go too much, baby, okay.

She's at all the kids. And then I showed her. And then I show up, and that's not how much. I think all to get into the voice of my head, so that's the rubbish pose to do. Yeah, but. I love that. I got to thank you.

So, yeah, now, that's a little bit about, you know, you play sports, you play ball in college. They're a discipline in a bond, too. There have a piece of conversations with God as Wizzy that get intuition to just know away the lock and a lot in a lot tail. And I think that's why your career has been so successful, your best sense, if the thing is your doing.

When you're deciding, you know, what discipline looks like for you at different faith, you know, everybody's so like, dad, discipline, real estate discipline, everybody can have a moot discipline, you're balancing it all, what is it that, regent, like in a conversation, like, we've got a lot of things to be going to know this. With discipline, I think you have to collect your head.

For me, I think with the outcome, this could be a good or bad. So obviously, well, this is a weird enough to go to that. You know, that there was a fight. I would like to get just to be past it, as I'm gonna talk about this, or they're a little different. That's how I'm thinking about for my mother

in the right case. Even like, I found out of obesity, because I'm a shrugher and have some Christmas much like that. Yeah, sure, I think it was a friend of it. And you know, too changing the head of three or something like for Christmas,

he's gonna make a lot, not Frank Shots. And Chris is, what does it just change you will go. I got this question. So even that, maybe it works. But I know you have arrived, guys, make sure you ask if you if you are called behind us and come in a pre-word of the book. But in my final question, is not, is not working? All right. That's what I should have called is working because it's a good reading. Now place is, that's a, that's a good read. The voice in my hand has got. So this book, you know what I'm saying, y'all, the name of the book of purchase, the voice that your

head with God. Then I thought that somebody changed it. They said that a lot of the buyers would think there was a religious baseball was our fact that's an honest thing that they got to burn God. So but I didn't want to change firm God. So I changed me to the voice in my head. So I was just speaking for me, you might have the wicked voice in the only a pocket but you know what I mean to be a hair. But for me this voice is my head told me you good they look like this, like this. Yeah. They said if you are working down your child.

You are not going to work again. Yes, right now. Now, ask you back. You're talking about your head and, you know, how about you here, where you are right now? What would you tell any of these young people in the audience who are struggling with really tapping against with the hoising of their head and this?

The thing we all have heard. This is what it is. Okay, this is just another we are free game. As anybody in here said, something told me, something told me, where it is, some told me, don't go back something told you there. If you think about what something told you was, just find out what that is.

Because we all, you know, self told me don't amen. Some told me, we don't, something like, I wouldn't even come in here or not. Some told me to do it whatever that something is, except for today. So that's what this book is. Find out that something is.

Find out what everybody was something told me to come on this. And something told me, come up. Somebody wasn't going to come here today. And then something told you to come here today and then you weren't it to be. That's what that is. You take what I'm saying. Man, you feel.

That's what it is. I want to come up in there. I'm going to go. Something told me to come up there. Ben, I'm putting the game my way on it. And then you're going to flourish and just be so prominent and be great in everything. I'm going to say y'all give it up my two shit. It's true.

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