The Breakfast Club - Action Bronson Interview
Episode Date: March 27, 2015Action Bronson discusses dropping 40 lbs, his decision to start singing, his new album and his hope for a collaboration with Pitbull. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetw...ork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Special guest in the building.
His album is out right now.
That's right, Mr. Wonderful.
Action Bronson.
We're here.
Thank you, guys.
You got the alchemist with him. That's right. Producer extraordinaire. What's up, sir? What's up, what's up? Can I just Wonderful. Action Bronson. We're here. Thank you, guys. You got the alchemist with him.
That's right.
Producer extraordinaire.
What's up, sir?
What's up?
What's up?
Can I just say, Action Bronson, you look like you slimmed down a lot.
I did.
I lost 40 pounds.
How'd you do that so quick?
It wasn't that quick.
I was on the way when we met last time, but I've just been eating right and getting it
together.
What's eating right for you?
What's eating right because you're a chef?
Eating right because I usually, I usually, you know,
I eat at terrible times.
So in the morning I start off with a
banana shake with
peanut butter and some raw cocoa.
I do that twice a day.
Do you?
But then I hit the ginger shot,
wheatgrass,
about
two gallons of water a day,
just walking around, just going in.
Now, I saw you at the food truck at South by Southwest.
That food you was giving out didn't look healthy, though.
It was not healthy whatsoever.
That was the one time, you know.
I let it go a little bit down there, I'm not going to lie.
I ate a lot of beef, a lot of beef ribs.
It's the brisket in Austin, man.
Oh, man, the brisket was out of control,
the beef ribs was out of control.
But the food that I was serving, the people
loved it. It was like, it's something that everyone
could eat down there. It's fried
potatoes with gravy, cheese,
and brisket. Everyone loved it.
Did you cook the food yourself? I
gave them the recipe, and then
the girls that were... You directed. Yes, I directed.
I produced it. You produced it.
I produced the situation.
But the girls that were working on the truck, they I directed. I produced it. You produced it. I produced the situation. Yeah, but the girls
that were working on the truck,
they killed it for me.
They really,
they knocked out about
2,000 plates
and I just gave them all away.
It was great.
Now, who comes up
with those marketing plans?
Because as a chef,
do you feel like,
okay, that's stereotypical.
You're just going to make me
serve out a food truck?
No, I wanted to do that
because I feel like,
you know,
connected with the fans,
especially through food.
It's what I'm known for.
Yeah, I think it makes sense.
It makes sense.
And down there, it's a food truck heaven in Austin.
It's like it's the biggest boom of food trucks in America.
The best marketing plans, I think, are the ones that make sense for who you are.
Exactly.
And, you know, a lot of the ideas I come up with myself, but I can't execute it all the way.
So we have the good people that are helping execute it.
And that's just the way it goes. All right. Now, I was listening to Mr. Wonderful. I didn't see it all the way, so we have the good people that are helping execute it, and that's just the way it goes.
All right.
Now, I was listening to Mr. Wonderful.
I didn't see the production credits yet, so I'm assuming Alchemist did a lot of joints
on it.
He did three joints on it, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, man.
This is awkward.
What'd you think?
Alchemist is here because I had some questions.
I thought it was dope.
I thought it was dope.
You played it all morning.
Yeah, it confused me a little bit, though, because some of the records wasn't no rap
on them.
Yeah, I know.
I was just trying to do more of just like different pieces of music,
not just only rap, because I gave out ten projects of straight, ridiculous rapping.
You know what I mean?
Just nonstop.
So now this time I just wanted to take the time and just really like do the music I wanted to do.
Did Alchemist tell you you should experiment a little?
He was iffy about those joints at first, honestly, but then he came back around,
and, you know, he was like, yeah, you know. I just felt like he'd done so much already, but it at first, honestly, but then he came back around and he was like,
yeah, you know.
I just felt like he'd done so much already, but it was like, okay, now it's the major album on the label.
You got to take it one step.
Don't be afraid, because I felt like he built.
He sometimes gets put in a category that's like, keep it real rapping.
Backpacks.
But he's not that.
He listens to salsa music.
He listens to crazy.
He doesn't sit around and listen to us. That's right. backpacks but he's not that he's not like he needed to show that too right he said that on the record Terry he said you do a remix with Pitbull and I'm gonna
tell you who the remix is gonna be for that song me Pitbull and MF Doom. You got it done already. I have the Doom verse. All we need is Pitbull.
All we need is Pitbull.
Cool.
City Boy Blue, that sounded like a jam session.
Yeah.
It was just kind of like a light hook on there.
That was just the better music, man.
That song right there was specifically, well, City Boy Blues, A Light in the Attic, and Baby Blue.
It's supposed to be like a little mini musical in the Attic, and Baby Blue.
It's supposed to be like a little mini musical in between the album, you know?
So that starts it off.
It's all about kind of like, you know, relationship things,
the woes that I've gone through.
And I just caught a bug.
88 Keys produced that one right there with Party Supplies,
and he just played it for me, and I just couldn't rap to it. I couldn't catch
a rhythm to rap or make it sound
good at least. So I was like, you know, I'm
writing a song. I was listening to a lot of Billy Joel
that day and I was like, yo,
I'm going in. You listen to everything.
I actually really like Billy Joel. I really like Billy Joel's
hits. Billy Joel's incredible. Billy Joel's
salsa. Explain the Light in the
Attic record because it's attic like
drug attic. Yeah, exactly. It was a play on the Shel Silverstein book the Light in the Attic record, because it's attic like, drug attic.
Yeah, exactly.
It was a play on the Shel Silverstein book, A Light in the Attic.
Yeah.
A Light in the Addict is, you know, it's just, it's kind of heroine-y.
It's kind of, you know, it's like dope-y.
It's like dope music.
It's just party supplies and the dude who wrote it, Sean, they were sniffing dope at
the time and taking a lot of hallucinogens as well.
And that's just...
You say on the album you did acid for 10 days straight.
In the mountains.
In the mountains.
Is that true or is that just rap?
That one's rap, but you know...
It was three days.
You know what I mean?
That music made me feel like I was taking acid for 10 days straight.
That's what I meant.
Imagine.
It's just like that Turkish Funkadelic, man.
It's just some next level music.
The music from all over the world is...
There's so much out there that you have not heard.
You just need to...
Like Al, he goes all over these places and just gathers records, gathers records.
We come back and we listen to him and it's just like...
We can make beats from them or I can just put them in my iTunes and just listen all day long gathers records. We come back and we listen to them and it's just like, we can make beats from them or
I can just put them in my iTunes and just listen all day long and bump them in the car.
Now the name Mr. Wonderful, explain that.
You know, Mr. Wonderful is just something my mother used to call me.
It's kind of tongue in cheek, you know.
She used to, if you're like, kind of like a, you know, a mess up or you do terrible
things or you act up all the time, huh, Mr. Wonderful over here, you know.
It's ironic. It's ironic. It's like an OG wrestling name. Exactly. Well, it's Paul Orndorff's name as Huh. Mr. Wonderful over here, you know? It's ironic.
It's ironic.
Like an OG wrestler name.
Exactly.
Well, it's Paul Orndorff's name as well.
Paul Orndorff, yeah.
But, you know, he was also like a real jerk.
So that's why it kind of played funny, you know?
I'm not really a jerk, but sometimes I could be mean.
You play one sometimes.
I play one on TV.
Yeah.
Now, let me ask you this.
I was just talking about, you know, just you trying to experiment with different things. Did it make you nervous that your fans would
be like, what the hell is he doing? Of course you don't want to, I mean, if they're real
fans, they're going to understand the growth and everything that needs to, you know, me,
me musically, I've, I came into the, into the music thing late, you know? So right now
I'm really just getting my, I'm getting my feet under me um it's
only been five or six years since i've been rapping so i'm just really getting into music
as a whole and understanding it more and being able to use different vocals and stuff like that
because i was definitely scared or self-conscious about singing,
but then I was like, you know what?
All these other dudes can't sing for me.
They stink.
And I definitely could throw some effects that make me sound like
Stevie Ray Vaughan or something.
So that's you singing on Baby Boop?
That's me.
I couldn't figure it out.
Good.
It's like Jim Morrison or something.
It's like some 70s, some vibe.
Now, what chick had you in your feelings on that record?
Yeah, definitely.
Was that a true story?
It was a true story.
Oh, that's a true story.
All that.
Heartbreak.
Like you bought her a crib?
Oh, yeah.
Come on.
How much was the house?
It's not that much.
Okay.
$1,900 a month.
Was that a baby mom or was that just some girl?
Well, yeah, it has a lot to do with that,
but it's like a lot
of relationships that go wrong in general you know it's usually that's how
it goes that's actually the first time I ever
heard chance to rap a rap he rapped and I told him I told that last time I met
him like I never heard a verse from you and he stood in by the song but I like
chance though he's a good kid but I heard him spit was on you yeah we did that I've seen at South by Southwest together, too, performing. Yeah, we did that.
I seen Charlamagne over there.
He was hosting the—
The Woodies.
The Woodies.
Did a good job over there with Nessa.
Yeah.
And—
Now, I have some questions for you.
If you had to pick between two different things.
All right, go ahead.
Some of these might be hard because Alchemist is right here.
Okay.
All right, Alchemist or Mark Ronson?
I mean, you don't have to go without.
Okay. Okay. here okay all right alchemist or mark ronson i mean you don't have to go without okay that's that queen's bias too because you grew up on mob deep
that's that's just what it is okay um hubby or bae who
good answer you gotta pick one who hubby or bae for what are we referring to? What does that help you? Don't worry about it. Just your first instinct.
Nah.
Nah.
I guess Bay.
All right.
Coachella or South by Southwest?
Am I wrong here?
I'm sorry.
You were doing what?
That was how we got here.
To what?
Coachella or South by Southwest?
South by.
Coachella is amazing as well.
I'm doing Coachella this year, by the way.
It's amazing as well.
But South by, you get this concentration of everybody down there.
That feels a good feeling down there.
Moving from place to place.
Everyone's running to go see this person.
Oh, I got to leave on the last song.
I got to go run here and catch this person.
It's just a cool feeling.
It's like a conference.
I don't know.
And the food.
The food is incredible.
You got to keep it in Austin.
You got to keep it there.
It's just a good time.
It was snowing up here and it was cold,
so we were down there.
Sweating.
It was like 80 degrees.
All right, shrooms or mollies?
Shrooms.
I've never done a molly in my life.
I don't know.
All right, J. Cole or Kendrick?
Kendrick.
I like your honesty.
People might hesitate.
The only one you hesitated on was hubby or bae.
Well, yeah, I don't know.
I said hubby.
You said shrooms.
You rap a lot about drugs on the album.
I didn't know if you were really into drugs.
Was it just rap?
I don't know.
No, later on in my life, I started, I've used shrooms.
You know, like, I actually, the first, one of the first times I took shrooms
was in Africa.
And we went to South Africa and I took these, this dude had these,
these concentrated psilocybin drops, which is just pure extract.
So I took one.
We all wilded out Went to Nobu
I don't know
For eight hours
Just the precursors of it
No bugging out
Just laughing uncontrollably
You were in Nobu for eight hours?
Yeah
So at least five
They didn't kick y'all out?
No
In South Africa
In Nobu
Wow
It was crazy
Wow
The faces in there
It was just
That's all I remember
Is these crazy faces man now
with most New York rappers if you look like you say mob deep they're known as a
New York rapper but you're not you're just action bronzes does that bother you
at all that people don't associate you necessarily from New York um I mean nah
I just think they're uneducated you know honestly um you probably got more stamps
on your passport than most I mean rappers. I mean, I had
to get a new passport. I had to add 30
extra pages also.
Straight up.
You know, I'm a Queens
native.
There's no other place I'm from.
There's no other place that explains me.
It's just straight Queens.
If you don't understand, where could I be
from? If you hear me talk, you know I'm not from Indiana. You know what I mean, it's just straight queens. If you don't understand, where could I be from? If you hear me talk, you know I'm not from Indiana.
You know what I mean?
I might look it, but I'm not, you know?
Who are some other artists that hit you up, like on the regular,
on your phone asking you to, you know, just consider your friends?
Vince Staples hits me up constantly.
We always talk to each other.
I saw you hanging out with Ray Kwan the other day.
Yeah, Ray.
I mean, Ray's the man.
He's always showed love
since the beginning.
Yeah, I talk to Ray a lot.
I talk to Prodigy.
That's really it.
You know, like a lot
of younger dudes
that are not really
like that poppin'.
I just, I keep in contact
with a select few.
Not too many.
I don't like to be fake
with people.
You know what I mean?
I dig it, but what do we have to talk about
other than, you know, rap music or something like that, you know?
Right.
Now, Alchemist, you was one of the architects of that 90s sound.
What makes you gravitate towards Bronson?
I mean, you know, first when we met, it was like first just music.
You know, I dug his stuff, and then we kind of clicked.
Because, you know, when you make music, you end up,
in my travels, it's like you make the best music with the people you're cool with so we just kind of
clicked like i liked i don't remember what it was we first met i think let me like i've asked him
to hook me up with some weed and he just gave me an ounce and was like take that i think it was
that it was something like that i love how people become friends over weed i mean you know because
he's a legend he's like one of the people
that grew up,
you know,
not to say he's an old man,
but you know,
he's not young.
No, but you know,
that was first,
you know,
it was the music
then we linked
and I was like,
this kid is,
you know what I mean,
this is somebody
I could be,
you know,
friends with
and we kind of linked
like that
and through time,
him coming out to LA,
we working,
we just built a relationship
where it was like,
that's how we broke the ice
to make more than just a joint here or there and I know his I know what he's about now
And I know how to fit the right beats so when we get up. It's like guarantee. We're gonna make something anytime
Well, I take rap literally messes the few things off the album. I need to know can you really speak six languages and three voices?
I could speak two languages and
two and a half voices
Just speak English and Spanish,
and I understand a little bit of Albanian,
but I don't speak it fluently,
which I'm embarrassed about.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm going to be honest.
Have you ever really been in first class with a hard on?
100%.
Okay.
One million percent.
Like, coming back from Texas,
I had a hard on,
and I was sitting in first class.
Was that just random,
or were you thinking of stage music?
A lot of times when you fly,
I don't know if it's something about... I don't know what it is, but I should have a penis. You had a hard on coming back from Austin? Yeah. Were you sitting next to Alcone? I was sitting in first class. Was that just random or were you thinking of daydreaming? A lot of times when you fly, I don't know, something about it.
You had a hard-on coming back from Austin?
Yeah.
Were you sitting next to Alcremes?
I was sitting next to you.
Wow.
Weird.
There's a separation there, fam.
You don't need to know that.
Good to know.
So were you daydreaming or is it just a random?
It's the pressure or something that, you know.
Early morning flights.
Early morning woodies on first class.
Exactly.
You just, you know, damn, I'm up here.
I got all this room.
Might as well get comfortable.
What if you guys both had hard irons at the same time?
That's crazy.
We wouldn't know.
We wouldn't be conversing around that.
We wouldn't know about that.
That's not something you turn your homework and be like,
you're not got a hard iron.
Me too, same way.
And you also said overseas you probably got mad kids
you don't even know about.
That could be a possibility.
You got to start wearing condoms overseas.
Or at least pull out.
Listen, I...
Prematurely ejaculate.
Never.
Rappers think when they're overseas it doesn't count.
Yeah, right.
That's a hair.
Overseas.
They wear different outfits.
Straight up.
I know dudes that only wear certain tight shirts in New York.
They will not wear that in New York.
You paid homage to Lost Boys, too.
You said you'd resurrect Freaky Ty to do your ad-libs.
I have to, man.
That's why I grew up on that LB fam, you know?
He's just one of the best, you know?
He's kind of like Migos are now.
He started that crazy ad-lib stuff in the back, you know?
I thought about that.
Do you feel like this is your debut album, though?
It is my debut album because I put a lot more work into this
than I did a lot of other projects.
Gotcha.
Like the Blue Chip stuff, that was really like just having fun and going in.
It's not really like taking time to listen to the EQ of the drum
or the EQ of the bass.
On this project, I really, really dug in
and was in the studio for 95% of everything being done.
Do numbers matter to you?
Yes and no.
Explain.
Yes, because you want to show that you're on that level of artist
where people are dying to just buy your music.
I've given a lot of stuff out for free, and I've made a lot of money on the road.
So in that sense, I don't care.
But now I'm not dealing with an independent situation.
I'm dealing with people that are looking at me like,
oh, they're only going to do better for you when you're showing that you're moving for them.
Right. you when you're showing that you're moving for them. So me making numbers happen is going to be a lot more helpful for myself and my situation
with the label and they're going to want to push me more and do more things possibly,
you know what I mean?
Did you think about things like what is my first single going to be?
Is this a radio friendly song?
Things that you'd never thought about before? R rappers rappers think that every new song is their single you know the newest song that they
just made is their single i thought of mad songs on my single i don't know what a single is but
baby blue the new one is definitely my best shot right i like that and acting crazy i hear that on
the radio it's on the radio a lot, but I don't know.
I can't call it.
Baby Blue is more of a musical piece.
The other one is more of a street single.
But that's good because then that keeps you, you know.
It keeps me on both sides.
They probably said they're going to throw this out first,
your core fan base, and then we're going to put out the one
that's a little different for you.
Listen. It's like I work at a little different for you. Listen.
It's like I work at a label.
Yeah.
I don't know how these people think, honestly.
I just don't get it sometimes.
What is it like for you in a meeting when you have to sit down and go over?
I can't even see you in a label meeting.
What is that like?
It's so crazy.
It's ridiculous.
The breakdowns, I'm just sitting there like this.
Because, you know, I don't really like I don't like doing
those types of things but you have to you have to be on top of your business and know exactly
you got to know who your marketing person is you got to know who's doing this you got to know who's
doing that you got to know who's doing this you got to have everybody under control and you got
to show face and be like listen you know you guys are ready to work this and just talk to people and build relationships with people and i feel like i've done that i feel like i know a lot of
the people that are working on this project down from the lowest to the highest and that's pretty
much the way it is you do have a tv show oh i have a tv show for sure we have the web series called F*** That's Delicious right now out on
Vice Munchies, and
it will be coming to
a cable network near you
in the fall. Is it HBO?
Can't disclose which network it is.
I just read that, so I don't know.
It's a major move. It better be MTV
because they love you in that building.
Help me out, man. Let's go.
I'm not exclusive.
This is a non-exclusive thing.
How hard is it to not rap on records?
Because, like, I hit the road with a new idea.
I'm like, that's a tough track, but you don't rap.
Like, how hard is it to say, you know what?
I'm just going to let that one ride out.
You got to, I mean, I just, I was like, you know,
I got to think out of the box on this and just let it go.
I just let it go, man.
Honestly, I did less thinking and more from the gut,
just feeling, just, you know what? Boom. Let's do this. This feels good right here. This
feels like a movie. I'm more trying to paint the scene and create a whole spectrum of sound
other than hit people with just single songs. So with this album, I'd love it to be listened
through the whole way, you know, so you could hear the transitions and the interludes and for it to make sense. Now, having lost 40 pounds
recently, has that changed your sex life? No, my sex life was incredible before. Just new moves,
new moves. I read that you like to get the back of your knee licked.
I was just talking crazy. I was just talking crazy.
You looked really high in there.
I was out of control.
I didn't know what I was saying, honestly.
I looked at that, and I was pissed.
That interview was not sanctioned.
I was a non-shat.
That was a non-sanctioned interview.
But it was explanatory because you had that huge joint.
It was an authorized joint.
It was like that.
Yeah.
It was like the seagull, the whole seagull.
Do you feel like this album tells your story?
I think it does. I feel like this album tells you exactly who I am and what my influences are and
where I am musically in my life and where I am in my life, period. I feel great. My mind is clear
and I'm ready to tackle everything that's put in my path. And not only that, I'm at my most creative at this point, I feel.
Just, you know, from everything that's going on.
Just ideas just pop up all the time, and it's not like anybody else's.
Who would you love to work with that you haven't worked with yet?
Carlos Santana.
Carlos Santana.
Straight up, man.
Straight up.
I love him.
We were in South Africa, and I saw him at breakfast.
I couldn't even say a word to him.
I was like...
You didn't even speak?
I couldn't.
I couldn't, because he's my idol.
I fanned out.
He's one of the first albums I've ever heard in my life,
in my father's car back in the day, driving the Bear Mountain.
The Bear Mountain.
Straight up.
We used to take those trips, too, bro.
Bear Mountain, man.
Carlos Santana is one person for sure.
We appreciate you joining us this morning.
Thank you guys for having me again, man, for sure.
Alvin Storrs right now.
Make sure you pick it up.
Alvin's dope, too.
Thank you, man.
He's wonderful.
Yeah.
It's the Breakfast Club.
Action Bronson.
Yes.
Had enough of this country?
Ever dreamt about starting your own?
I planted the flag.
This is mine. I own this.
It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country
willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from
Zakatistan. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey guys, I'm Kate Max.
You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
After those runs, the conversations keep going.
That's what my podcast Post Run High is
all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,
their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together.
Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
I forgive myself. It's okay. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best,
and you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing.
Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, y'all. Niminy here.
I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families
called Historical Records.
Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman,
Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop.
Each episode is about a different, inspiring figure from history.
Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama
who refused to give up her seat on the city bus
nine whole months before Rosa Parks did the same thing.
Check it.
And it began with me.
Did you know, did you know?
I wouldn't give up my seat.
Nine months before Rosa It was called a moment
Get the kids in your life excited about history
by tuning in to Historical Records.
Because in order to make history,
you have to make some noise.
Listen to Historical Records on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974.
George Foreman was champion of the world.
Ali was smart and he was handsome.
Story behind the Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie.
But that is only half the story.
There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B.
King, Miriam Akiba.
All the biggest black artists on the planet.
Together in Africa.
It was a big deal.
Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.