The Breakfast Club - Addressing Trans Issues With Malik Yoba, Carmen Carrera, David Johns + Nala Simone

Episode Date: September 11, 2019

Today on the show The Breakfast Club addressed trans issues with Malik Yoba, Carmen Carrera, David Johns and Nala Simone. Also, Charalamagne gave "Donkey of the Day" to angry Giant fans and Angela hel...ped some listeners out during "Ask Yee".  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Had enough of this country? Ever dreamt about starting your own? I planted the flag. This is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Or maybe not. No country willingly gives up their territory. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:00:16 What is that? Bullets. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. We need help! That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast
Starting point is 00:00:46 Post Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, y'all. Niminy here. I'm the host of a brand new history podcast for kids and families called Historical Records. Executive produced by Questlove, The Story Pirates, and John Glickman, Historical Records brings history to life through hip-hop. Flash, slam, another one gone. Bash, bam, another one gone. The crack of the bat and another one gone.
Starting point is 00:01:30 The tip of the cap, there's another one gone. Each episode is about a different inspiring figure from history. Like this one about Claudette Colvin, a 15-year-old girl in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on the city bus nine whole months before Rosa Parks did
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Starting point is 00:02:20 Man, what the hell is this, man? Breakfast Club, bitches. I'm glad they put y'all together. Y'all are like a mega force y'all just took over every dog wake your punk ass up this chris brown i've officially joined the breakfast club say something mother i'm with it world's most dangerous morning show breakfast club bitches Hey, good morning, USA. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. As you can see, it is hump day. Hump day.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Wednesday. And again, the woman in the room is the only one here when it comes to DJ Envy and Charlamagne. But happy Wednesday. Now, let me tell you what happened yesterday. I'll just talk to everybody in the room and to the people who are listening and feel free to tweet me and have a conversation with me. Oh, well, hello guys. Thanks for coming.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I was going to say yesterday I took the train, right? And I had to go do this event at the Apollo for the small business services in New York City. And I was getting off the train coming back and there was a trail of blood from the train platform all the way up the stairs. Somebody got stabbed?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Somebody's period was on? What happened? Yeah, somebody got stabbed. I just found out this morning. Oh, damn. A guy got stabbed on the platform at the train. I guess they said he was smoking a cigarette. Somebody told him to put his cigarette out.
Starting point is 00:03:37 This is what the news is reporting. And then the person stabbed him. Well, that's the reason why I don't take the train yet. I knew it. So I just want to say, this morning I was telling my makeup artist, Sandra Dean, I said, why shouldn't I tell this story?
Starting point is 00:03:48 Everybody's going to say that's why I don't take the train. That is the reason why I don't take the train. And that's the reason I don't smoke cigarettes. I mean, that could be the... That's a better twist.
Starting point is 00:03:56 That could also be the reason why you don't leave the house. You know, anybody could find an excuse to not go anywhere or do anything. No, that's all right. I'm good with the train. Because you could get in a car accident
Starting point is 00:04:05 and you could say, that's the reason I don't drive. But at least I won't get stabbed. You could. Nope. You could get carjacked. And we still don't know why he really got stabbed. Right. We don't know. I mean, I'm just telling you. You gotta hit both sides. But I definitely was like, what happened here? Because they were bleaching the platform. And I was like, it was so much blood.
Starting point is 00:04:22 You can start with anything positive. Jesus Christ. I'm just telling you what happened in my real life yesterday. Did you at least tell the listeners good morning first? I did. Oh, okay. Yeah. I said good morning. That was the first thing I did.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And I said I did an event for the small business services in New York, which was great. It was about black entrepreneurship because they're launching this whole venture. But it was great. All right. That was my day yesterday. All right. Well, today, did you tell them who's joining us this morning? Not yet.
Starting point is 00:04:44 All right. Well, Malik Yoba will be joining us this morning. Malik Yoba. That's right. I've seen his name in the news. Yeah. He said he was attracted to transgender women. Trans women.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Trans women. But we'll find out. I can't say transgender women? You can. Why can't you say transgender women? I did, but trans women. I thought it was transgender women. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Transgender women, trans women. Boy, that's why we're having this conversation. Absolutely. And he's also going to be joined by. Yeah, transgender women, trans women. Boy, that's why we're having this conversation. Absolutely. And he's also going to be joined by David Johns. My guy, David Johns. Runs the National Black Justice Coalition. That's right. Also, Nala Toussaint.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yep. And Carmen Carrera. You know her from RuPaul's Drag Race. All right, so we'll be kicking it with them next hour. Just a conversation. That's all. And we got front page news. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Oh, man, there's so much going on in front page news today, but where do we start? Apple, the iPhone 11. It's funny when I was just in Paris. Oh no, I was in France and I was looking at these new phone cases and I was like, oh, I'm going to get a phone case. And then I was like, you know what? There's a new iPhone about to come out
Starting point is 00:05:40 and it doesn't even make sense for me to spend money. So that means that the iPhones we have now, if you have a 10, they're going to start acting up for no damn reason and force us to buy 11. Apple does this every single time, bro. My God. Get ready for it. All right, well, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked.
Starting point is 00:05:53 This is The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the front page news. Where we starting, Yee? Well, today is 9-11, and today the nation will stop to remember We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get to the front page news. Where we starting, Yee?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Well, today is 9-11, and today the nation will stop to remember the 18th anniversary of when the attacks happened. The 9-11 Memorial Museum is going to be where they do the annual name-reading ceremony that starts at 8.39 a.m. You can stream that if you can't go to it, and that's going to continue until about 12 30 during that memorial all the names of the 2 983 men and women who died in the 2001 attacks will have their names read and if you want to attend it's only open to victims families although like i said you can stream it online there's also going to be six moments of silence planned during the ceremony that's going to be two for the moment the plane struck each tower and two for the times each tower fell. One for the moment the Pentagon was hit and another
Starting point is 00:06:50 for the moment United Flight 93 crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. So this year's ceremony will also be the first time that they have that at a new memorial which will line the outside of the World Trade Center. Yeah, man. Condolences still to everybody who lost somebody in 9-11.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I always think of my young guy, Pete Davidson. You know, he lost his father in 9-11. So I know this is a rough time for a lot of people. And people are still losing their lives.
Starting point is 00:07:16 They said somebody passed away, I think, two weeks ago from cancer from 9-11. There's police officers and other people, firefighters, who died from exposure to toxins that happened after the attacks. They don't have a whole list of all those people who died in the aftermath, but they do have six granite slabs that were installed to honor those firefighters and police officers and other people who died after that exposure.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Now, Donald Trump will be participating in the Pentagon observance ceremony in Arlington, Virginia, and then also having a moment of silence at the White House. All right. Now let's talk about the Apple iPhone 11. They did unveil that there's going to be new high-end iPhones coming out. Those iPhones will be on sale in stores on September 20th, but this Friday you can pre-order it if you so desire. It's the iPhone 11 Pro, the 11 Pro Max, and then there's the cheaper iPhone 11. So let's discuss prices. The Pro Max is going to start at $1,099, and the iPhone 11 Pro will start at $999. Then they also will have the slightly less expensive $699 iPhone 11. So we know how this goes.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Our phones are going to update in the middle of the night. Once we update it, it's going to start acting up, especially if you got an iPhone 10, and you're going to be forced to have to goddamn purchase an iPhone 11. I'm so over all these phones. I ain't going to front. They all do the same damn thing. I don't even want them to do what they do now. I just want a phone that rings and I can call people.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That's it. Well, they said the iPhones will have improved battery life. They always do that. The camera is going to be improved. And it's going to have three cameras on the back of the phone. And the battery is going to last four hours longer. Why do we need three cameras? On the iPhone 11 Pro and the Pro Max will last five hours longer.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Why do we need three cameras? Because you're going to take a better picture. I don't know. Yeah, why do you need three cameras on your phone? They need to make a mentally healthier smartphone that has no social media on it and no access to the internet, period. But it has the other features.
Starting point is 00:09:12 So it'll have the texting. It has the phone calls. That's it. Doesn't sound lucrative. But it's no social media. Why not? No, no. You need social media to have a phone.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Because you actually could, if you don't want to have it, not put it on your phone. That's true, too. But I'm talking about a phone that doesn't even give you the capability to download them, period. You don't say you won't have that temptation at all. They also announced Apple TV Plus. So that's going to cost $4.99 a month, which is less than Disney's new streaming service, which is costing $6.99 a month.
Starting point is 00:09:38 They announced that. And if you have an iPhone, iPad, or Mac, you'll get a free year of streaming television service. And that's going to launch November 1st. So they have some new shows. They showed off those trailers yesterday also. If you have an iPhone, iPad, or Mac, you'll get a free year of streaming television service. And that's going to launch November 1st. So they have some new shows. They showed off those trailers yesterday also. Nothing on Apple TV I want. And they announced a new iPad.
Starting point is 00:09:55 That Disney Plus service, I'm all in on that. Tyler Perry and BET also have launched a new streaming service called BET Plus. And that's going to be $9.99 a month. That starts September 19th. And they'll have new programming and existing movies as well, and specials from people like Tyler Perry, Will Packer. BET is charging more than Apple and Disney?
Starting point is 00:10:13 I've been running, I've been watching, I've been watching, they've been running that commercial for a long time, though. That commercial for the BET streaming service. But who has more, more, uh... Bruh, Disney. Disney is the service you want.
Starting point is 00:10:22 You gotta think, Disney got ESPN, Disney got access to, um... Why is BET charging so much more? Disney got the service you want. You got to think Disney got ESPN. Disney got access to Hulu. Why is BET charging so much more? Disney got all the Marvel content. I don't know why BET's charging that much more. I can't answer that question. All that stuff you just named is on Disney for $6.99.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I love BET, but BET should not cost. They have special programming, though, like I said, from Will Packard, Tyler Perry, from other screenwriters. BET should not cost more than the Popeye's chicken sandwich. Whatever the Popeye's chicken sandwich is, that's how much BET should be. Do not compare BET to the Popeye's chicken sandwich. I'm not comparing BET to the Popeye's chicken sandwich. I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:10:53 it shouldn't be more than the Popeye's chicken sandwich. How much is the Popeye's chicken sandwich? I gotta say like what, $4.99? Exactly. Okay, that's how much the BET service should cost. How much is Disney Plus? $6.99. Come on, man. $6.99 and all the content that they've given us, all the original Marvel programming,
Starting point is 00:11:11 and they got access to Star Wars and all the Disney properties and ESPN. Come on, stop. BET, come on. All right, well, that is your front page news. That sounds crazy. We were talking about supporting, but how are we going to support when you're charging more than everybody else? And why would I pay more for that than I pay for my regular care when I got BET on it already?
Starting point is 00:11:25 BT Plus. Did y'all watch the next big thing last night, the season finale that I pay for my regular care when I got BET on it already? BT Plus. Did y'all watch the next big thing last night, the season finale that I hosted? I wasn't home. On BET? I didn't see that. Of course you didn't. Because I didn't play 99.9. I was at the small business services event at the Apollo.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Shout out to Greg Bishop from small business services. All right. Well, thank you, Miss E. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you're upset, you need to vent and hit us up right now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired, depressed, a little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy.
Starting point is 00:11:59 There are 55 gallons of water, 500 pounds of concrete. Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Ladonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe own country.
Starting point is 00:12:15 My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong? No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Bullets. We need help! We still have the off-road portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run Run High is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High.
Starting point is 00:13:29 It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself, and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going.
Starting point is 00:14:19 This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth gratitude and the power of love i forgive myself it's okay like grace have grace for yourself you're trying your best and you're gonna figure out the rhythm of this thing alicia keys like you've never heard her before listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The Breakfast Club. This is your time to get it off your chest,
Starting point is 00:14:54 whether you're mad or blessed. You better have the same energy. We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Mello, get it off your chest, bro. Yo, what's up, MV, man? I just want to say thank you to all the firefighters on today, man. Got to thank them for their service. Got to thank my guys.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I'm a firefighter myself, so, you know, I got a couple guys I want to say thank you to. My guy Paul and my guy Bush. You know, thank you all. You got my guy Gene. Okay, bro. Thank you for all that you do, man. Firefighters are unsung heroes out here in these streets. We appreciate you, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Thanks, man. I appreciate it, man. Firefighters are unsung heroes out here in these streets. We appreciate you, bro. Thanks, man. I appreciate it, man. People don't talk about firefighters. They talk about police officers and military folk. You don't hear about firefighters. What's up, Trav? Yo, what's up, Envy?
Starting point is 00:15:34 Hey, Trav. What's going on? Hey, what's up, sir? What up, sis? How you? I'm doing good. Envy, your throat's sounding better. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Hey. Hey, Trav, got you a question. When you call me sis, is it because I'm a sis? Is that short for cisgendered male or like cis-cis? Oh, no, no, no. You my sister. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Just making sure. That sounds way nice. What's up, Trav? Two things. Something real quick. I've been thinking about this for a while. Ever since I saw Chris Paul on his cover, I can't get it out of my mind. So I'm thinking about who should be on the body this for a while. Ever since I saw Chris Paul on his cover, I can't get it out of my mind.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I'm thinking about who should be on the body issue for next year. Charlamagne, tell me what you think. Kenny Stills. Kenny Stills? Yeah, Kenny Stills. He should be on the cover next year. You just want to see him naked. I mean, yeah, I've never. Why are you only asking Charlamagne?
Starting point is 00:16:20 Why Kenny Stills? Because I know Charlamagne B. Look at Charlamagne. Oh, okay. No, I got a better one for you. He said it was gay, so what? Serge Ibaka. No, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:16:34 You know you guys are having a conversation about naked men on the cover of a magazine. What's the problem with that? Does it make you uncomfortable, sir? I have a question for y'all. Malik Yoba, did y'all ask him about his hemophilia charge accusation? What the hell did you just say? Did y'all ask Malik Yoba. Did y'all ask him about his epithelial charge of accusations? What the hell did you just say? Did y'all ask
Starting point is 00:16:48 Malik Yoba about his epithelial accusations? What is epithelial? Epithelial is when you mess with children and epithelial is when you mess with teenagers. I never knew that word. Oh, no. We didn't ask him about that. Y'all do know this transgender
Starting point is 00:17:03 that's saying that he was messing with her when she was 14 years old and he's getting ahead of his claims that's coming out now, right? I didn't hear nothing about that. I don't know that, Chef.
Starting point is 00:17:12 I heard about his baby mama jumping on his ass. Oh, yeah. There's a whole story that's saying there's this transgender that's saying that when she was 14 years old,
Starting point is 00:17:20 Maliki Oba used to go around and pick up 14-year-olds and stuff. She has a whole story about it. You have to research that. I wish we did live radio so we could ask that question. Yeah, I'll send you stories.
Starting point is 00:17:34 They're definitely out there. We'll talk to them next hour. Hello, who's this? What? Oh, snap. Oh, snap. I got through? You got through. You made it. Oh, hey, this is Mike from Austin, Texas. Listen, Charlemagne, I got both of your books.
Starting point is 00:17:51 They help me deal with anxiety horribly. Envy, listen, I listen to your podcast, man. I'm such a big fan. I listen to y'all every morning. Listen, I can't believe, is this going to get played later? I'll be able to play this back? Yes, we all going to play it, sir. And we definitely appreciate your support, too, my brother. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Man, listen, Hazel, daddy's on the radio. Girl, look, we did it. Oh, my gosh. Oh, God. I just had to ask the question, though. Andy, you're coming out to Houston, Texas. I've been a single daddy for 10 years, taking care of my daughter. You have the seminar coming.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I was trying to see. I'm not really trying to ask for a hand up, but, you know, I'm letting my projects out, and I am. You know, if you don't have one special ticket, I understand, and I respect it. I'm going to figure out a way to hustle it up and get over to Houston for the seminar. If you do, then that would be, you know, something awesome. I've been trying to figure out all morning how to not sound like a sucker if I got through. But it's just the truth.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I could use the helping hand. All Envy can say is no. But what are you going to say, Envy? Well, yes, I am doing a seminar, a real estate seminar out in Houston. But that's not the question. The question is, are you going to bless this man with some tickets to that seminar in Houston? We're teaching real estate. We're bringing everybody from credit repair people to lenders, hard money lenders, and conventional lenders. Are you going to bless this man with some tickets to that seminar in Houston? We're teaching real estate. We're bringing everybody from credit repair people to
Starting point is 00:19:06 lenders, hard money lenders, and conventional lenders. Are you going to answer his questions? Can he get those tickets? Me and Cesar will be talking and breaking down how to do it. He just said he listens to you guys all the time. It sells out in every market. He listens to your podcast. And I'm so glad that you're going to bring Cesar some food. Give him a ticket, please. And I'm so glad that you listened
Starting point is 00:19:21 to the podcast. And I can't wait to see you at the seminar, brother. Man, bless that man with some tickets, man. I just said I can't wait to see him at the seminar. Nah, nah, nah. And I'm so glad that you listened to the podcast, and I can't wait to see you at the seminar, brother. Man, bless that man with some tickets, man. I just said I can't wait to see him at the seminar. Nah, nah, nah, that ain't the same. You don't even know his name. What's your name, sir? Mike. Mike. Okay, so put Mike on the list. Mike, I will pay for your ticket to the seminar, Mike. Yay!
Starting point is 00:19:38 Can I get a plus one? No. Pressure works. No. No, I don't need a plus one. Just me. That's all I need is the knowledge. I got you, Mike. Mike who? What do I need to do now? Mike Gowers. Mike, hold on, Mike. Come up and say your name is Mike.
Starting point is 00:19:50 What you need to do now is if the Popeye's chicken sandwich is sold out in your area, go buy two for Caesar. All right. Shut up. Mike, I'll see you at the seminar, all right? All right, all right. Hold on, hold on. I'll get you information, all right?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Oh, man, we lost him. Oh, man. Hold on, man. If you'll get you information, all right? Oh, man, we lost him. Oh, man. Hold on, man. If you want more information about the seminar, just hit me up. Click the link in my bio, and that'll give you all the information, all right? Hey, see the losing weight, too, though, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:12 He lost about 80, I think like 86 pounds. I see it in his pictures. 800, still chunky, but he losing weight. Hey, he got time. He got a little time. Absolutely. 800-585-1051. Get it off your chest.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Wake up, wake up. Wake your ass up. This is your time to get it off your chest. Say it, say it, say it. Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Hello, who's this? Hello. Hey, what's your name? Hey, this is Tina from Atlanta. Hey, Tina, get it off your chest. Hey, y'all want to say good morning to Charlamagne and Angelique, but especially you, Envy. Listen, I have a 24-year-old son. He is completely into music, and I've been trying to get him a little bit more motivated to do some other things.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And I really kind of am hitting up against a brick wall. But one day he came to me he said mom I want to look into real estate and I was like okay son let's go ahead and let's jump in and see what we could do but honestly it was like the blind leading the blind you know he started going to all these little seminars and things and we you know he's come back still confused but you know he listened to you all every morning And you came to Atlanta some months ago. So he came, and I don't know what you said or what you did or whatever it was. He had to stop talking about his first property, what he's going to do.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And he's just super-duper excited about it. That's beautiful. And he told me he's going to try and purchase his first property at the beginning of the year. And, I mean, for me, that's like everything. Because, you know, you want to see your kids be successful. Right. And, like, whatever it is you said to him, whatever you're doing in your seminars, look, you're getting there. You're blessing to people because your men are listening to you.
Starting point is 00:22:03 There you go, Envy. Envy out here changing lives. That's what it's about, man. There you go, Envy. Envy out here changing a lot. That's what it's about, man. Well, thank you, mama. And that's what it's about. And all we're trying to do is teach the community about owning our own property. So many of us have been rent for 30, 40, 50 years. We have nothing to pass on to our kids.
Starting point is 00:22:18 There's no generational wealth. So what we're doing up here is we're really promoting that, you know, owning this first property. Teaching them how to do it at a young age so they know. Because the first thing they think is, I can't do it. I can't afford to do it. But that's if you listen to the show every day. Yeah, we talk a lot of ish about people and we do a lot of fun things.
Starting point is 00:22:34 But if you really listen, you know, I really push real estate to the kids. You know, Angela, he really pushes entrepreneurship. Charlemagne really pushes mental health because we really try to help our community. And we appreciate you, mama. Yes. Can I ask you a question? And we appreciate you, Mama. Yes. Is he still pursuing his music career? Yes, he is.
Starting point is 00:22:50 He is. It's just something else he's adding to his portfolio. And I'm just so proud of him. He's 24. And, yeah, I'm proud. He is still pursuing his music career here in Atlanta. But like I said, I'm always working on him. You always want to build yourself and make yourself better.
Starting point is 00:23:08 You know, it's good to have the music, but you want to have something else as well. Absolutely. I found this new passion for real estate, and, like, I couldn't be happier. That's what it is, bro. I really consider it a blessing. So thank you so much. You're welcome, bro. For sharing your passion
Starting point is 00:23:25 I listen to you all just about every single morning I love you, I think you're amazing Charlamagne, I definitely hear you on the mental health things I've actually started getting some classes with some sessions in myself I can never ever get in touch with you
Starting point is 00:23:43 during your session when I want to talk to you. But we'll go there another day. I love you guys. You guys have a blessed day. And keep doing what you're doing. You are going to be truly blessed for it. Take care, love. And that's why we do radio.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I don't give a damn what y'all be saying on social media. I don't give a damn what y'all be calling up here complaining about. That's why we do radio. Absolutely. And that's why I tell y'all kiss my black ass if you don't like what we do. All right. Lady almost made me cry. I'm tearing for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. If you need to vent, you can hit us up at any time. Nayee, we got rumors on the way? Yes. Let's talk about Miss Peck. She's been on this show, on The Breakfast Club, a few times. And, you know, she has a comedy that's coming.
Starting point is 00:24:23 We'll tell you who got casted in that comedy. Also, let's talk about a couple who has posed nude for Playboy. All right. We'll get into that when we come back. Keep it locked. Shout out to Miss Pat, man. Miss Pat hits me all the time to check up on me. That's the homie.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's the homie right there. Salute to Miss Pat. Rumors on the way. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. It's DJ, MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Good morning. Hey, good morning. Let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Playboy. Why did you say Playboy today? It's about time. What's going on? Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Chop off some cake. Rumor report. Rumor report. This is The Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Strom just turned to Envy and said Playboy. Playboy. Take that. Take that.
Starting point is 00:25:05 All right. Now, Kylie Jenner has posed nude for Playboy with Travis Scott, and that is for their pleasure issue. She posted a picture of the two of them together when Houston meets L.A. at Playboy hashtag coming soon. So it should be interesting to see the two of them together. I think Playboy isn't as risque as it used to be. It's more about the articles now, right? I've always read Playboy for the articles.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Okay. Really? Yeah, everybody does. Okay. Everyone. All right, now let's talk about the family some more. Kim Kardashian, her Skims. If you guys remember, she had to change the name,
Starting point is 00:25:40 and the name of the company is now Skims, and that's kind of the Spanx shapewear line that she has. So just to put it into perspective right, when Spanx first launched in their first year they made $4 million in profits. Well Skims sold $2 million in products within the first few
Starting point is 00:25:57 minutes of it going live on Tuesday. I'm dropping the clues bombs for Kim Kardashian. As much as y'all claim to hate those goddamn Kardashians, boy. Clearly, uh... Somebody's lying in the pocket. Exactly. Social media is not the market,
Starting point is 00:26:11 because somebody lying. All right? Y'all claim to hate her on social media, but in real life, they win it. So everything sold out in a couple of minutes, so they're restocking. Looks like it's a success so far. All right, now let's discuss Vince Herbert.
Starting point is 00:26:22 That's Tamar Braxton's ex-husband. He's been up here a couple of times. And now he is being accused of not paying up to $4 million that he owes Sony Music. Now they said Sony is back in court because he owed $2.3 million in a lawsuit that they brought against him back in 2017. They said they hired him to find new talent. They advanced him money that was supposed to be recouped. Instead, he didn't do anything, didn't pay back the advance, blew off the lawsuit, and now he has a default judgment of $3.7 million. They said no portion of that judgment has been satisfied.
Starting point is 00:26:55 He's continuing to accrue interest, and he's also been living a very lavish life and making up all these shell companies. So he's been doing things like he has a house in Calabasas and he had a shell company. And once they found out that entity was related to Vince Herbert, they did try to serve documents to get him to pay up. But instead, he sold that home and those proceeds went to pay down other creditors,
Starting point is 00:27:19 but not to pay down that judgment. So now they're saying he owes all of this money. And he also was recently evicted from his penthouse in L.A. As an executive, isn't it your only job to sign artists though, right? He also has to pay back the money. He has to recoup that money that they advanced you. Even when you sign artists and you give the money to artists
Starting point is 00:27:35 for advances? I thought that was their loss. If they invest in you and it don't work, it don't work. I don't know what artists he signed. Unless he did something different with the money. Unless they gave him the money for artists, and he just... He didn't sign the artists.
Starting point is 00:27:46 They said that he's been spending that money just living a lavish lifestyle. Oh, yeah, then he got to get that back. He didn't sign no artists. He can't just live, you know, just living the life, buying cars, jewelry, and taking expensive trips
Starting point is 00:27:56 and be like, see, now he can't do that now. He probably launched record labels and didn't sign no artists. That's what I'm thinking. Listen, a couple people I know ended up working for him, and they said things went very left very quickly. All right, Michael Jordan is donating $1 million to the Bahamas for Hurricane Dorian relief.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He got it. He said, I'm devastated to see the destruction that Hurricane Dorian has brought to the Bahamas where I own property and visit frequently, which is very true. I remember going to the Cove and they said that he would be there frequently with Charles Oakley gambling. And they showed us the room where he would always go in and gamble. He said, my heart goes out to everyone who is suffering and to those who have lost loved ones. So far, they say at least 50 people are confirmed dead and thousands of people are still unaccounted for, so you can expect to see that number rise.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Shout out to Sidney Torres. He's a friend of mine. I met through Larry Murrow that owns the Cove, and I know he's doing a lot to try to get that community back up and running so that people can have a place to live and eat. So shout out to them as well. All right up and running so that people can have a place to live and eat. So shout to them as well. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Now, Tammy Roman is going to be a series regular on Miss Pat's comedy, The Miss Pat Show on Hulu. We heard about that first from Lee Daniels and from Miss Pat herself. So that's going to be based on her stand-up comedy and her memoir about a convicted, a former convicted felon turned suburban mom. She's going to actually play Pat's sister, Denise. Drop on the clues bombs for Ms. Pat, man. Shout out to Ms. Pat. You see a plan coming together because that show was first signed at Fox and it didn't go at Fox and then it ended up in limbo and it ended up on Hulu and now the pilot is being shot.
Starting point is 00:29:18 So salute to Ms. Pat. Very deserving. All right. Well, I'm Angela Yee and that is your rumor report. All right. Thank you, Ms. Yee. Now we got front page news. Next, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yes, today is 9-11, and we'll tell you what will be happening today in remembrance of those who lost their lives on 9-11. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Are you finally playing Make This Dine? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Took long enough. How long has that been? It's almost, it'll be number one this week. Okay, we're dropping the clues bombs for Meg D'Estalia. There you go. They should play that song with her and the baby. That was it. That was it.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Sorry we were a little late. A little late? We never played Big Ol' Freak. We didn't? No. What about Pole Dancer? Definitely not. Well, I mean, we started late.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Her and Wale. Anyway, let's get to front page news. What we start with you? Well, today is 9-11, and today the nation will stop to remember the 18th anniversary of the terror attacks that happened back in 2001. So they are going to have an annual name reading ceremony that's going to start at 8.39 a.m. That will continue for approximately four hours until about 8.39 a.m. that will continue for approximately four hours until about 12.30 p.m. During that memorial, all the names of the 2,983 men and women and children who died in 2001 on the attacks will have their names read. Now, if you want to go, it's only
Starting point is 00:30:37 open to victims' families, but you can watch video of the ceremony. You can also stream that online. There will be six moments of silence planned during the ceremony, you can also stream that online. There will be six moments of silence planned during the ceremony, two for the moment that the plane struck each tower and two for the times that each tower fell, one for the moment the Pentagon was hit and another from when the plane crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. This year will also be the first time they have the ceremony at a new memorial, which will line the outside of the World Trade Center. Donald Trump is scheduled to participate in the Pentagon observance ceremony in Arlington, Virginia, and there will be a moment of silence at the White House today as well. They also did install this spring six granite slabs in the Memorial Plaza
Starting point is 00:31:15 that will honor the firefighters and police officers and other people who died from exposure to toxins that happened after the attacks. Yeah, condolences to everyone who lost someone during 9-11. They say time heals all wounds. I highly doubt that. You just learned to live with the pain and trauma. Salute to my guy Pete Davidson who lost his father during 9-11. Salute to all the firefighters, police officers, first
Starting point is 00:31:36 responders from that day. And salute to Jon Stewart for pushing the 9-11 victims fund on Capitol Hill this year. You know, that was something that I don't think got the props it deserves, but salute to him for that. All right, now, we talked about this viral video of a woman, Sally, cutting off Kobe Richardson's dreads,
Starting point is 00:31:55 and a lot of people were talking about this is an organization that Jay-Z's Rock Nation donated $200,000 to in Chicago, and people had issues with this white woman cutting off this young black man's hair like it would help his life afterward. Well, Kobe Richardson has been speaking out. He's a young man whose dreads were cut off. And he was on Angie Martinez's show and he wanted to explain what was going down.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Do you feel like you have to, I don't know, defend her now? Yes, I do, because they're trying to paint an image of her of something she's not. She's a nice woman. You know, people should get to meet her before they try to accuse or say she's this and that. Like, you don't know her. Like, she done been there for us through lots. There's been times where I
Starting point is 00:32:37 have no food at home and I can call on Sally and she's, okay, honey, I would be there in a few minutes to come get you so we can go get this or that for you. Listen, man, people are still talking about this. You just have to put blinders on and do the work. Stop reacting to social media. If you're out here working, keep working.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Don't listen to these people on social media. It's all a distraction. Did that lady have some cultural blind spots? Yes. Does it discredit all the work she's been doing in that community? No. Well, she did apologize for that.
Starting point is 00:33:04 She can't just ignore it. Why not? She did apologize because you do have to respond to things when you're in the limelight like that and you're doing work in the community. That lady was not in the limelight. I mean, she is now. When you get $200,000 donated to your non-profit and you get called out for something,
Starting point is 00:33:19 I think it's only right that you do acknowledge it and apologize. There's nothing wrong with that. Well, for all the Sally's of the world and everybody else out here doing the work, just keep doing the work. Put blinders on. Because the people who aren't doing anything are going to always have something to say. Right. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Well, that is front page news. Now, when we come back, shout out to Malik Yoba. I think last week there was a story that came out. Malik Yoba did an interview and said that he was attracted to trans women. And the story went crazy. People were bullying his kids, and he was trying to explain himself. So he called me and said he wanted to come up here
Starting point is 00:33:52 and have a conversation where we could just talk. And I said, nope. And the reason I said nope is because that's not a conversation that we should have alone. Correct. Because, you know, when you're having conversations about a certain community, you should have people from that community in the room. Correct. Because, you know, when you're having conversations about a certain community, you should have people from that community in the room.
Starting point is 00:34:07 We have all these talks about diversity and creating space for our people, but then you got a room full of white people trying to say what black people are into, a room full of men trying to say what women are into. So if we're going to have a conversation about said community, we should have people from that community in here.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's right. So we're bringing up with Malik Yoba, David Johns. David Johns. He's the executive So we're bringing up with Malik Yoba, David Johns. David Johns. He's the executive director for the National Black Justice Coalition. Nala Toussaint and Carmen Carrera. So we'll talk to all of them. And we're just going to have an open conversation. Hopefully we can talk to them and ask them whatever questions so we know.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Because sometimes we just don't know what to say. We don't know what to address. We don't know what's right, what's wrong, what we can say, what is hurtful, what is painful, what causes trauma. So we're going to have this open conversation. By the way, it's still black people at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:34:50 You know what I'm saying? So it's really just black people having a conversation about some things we may not necessarily understand about each other. Correct. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:57 So we'll kick it with them when we come back. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary?
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Starting point is 00:37:57 Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Breakfast Club. Morning, everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. The Breakfast Club Morning everybody It's DJ Envy Angela Yee Charlamagne Tha Guy We are The Breakfast Club
Starting point is 00:38:10 Good morning Now last week Charlamagne and I Were doing a story Angela Yee was out In Central Pay Yes And Charlamagne and I
Starting point is 00:38:18 Were confused With different things That we can say Different things That we can talk about When we were talking About transgender We were talking about
Starting point is 00:38:24 A story from Maliki Oba, who's here. And he called me and said, Envy, I want to come and I want to have a conversation. We also reached out to our good brother, David, who's been up here a couple times. David Johns. And said, let's have this conversation, a serious conversation, where we can ask questions. It's not a joke. We can learn and understand everything that's going on because we don't know.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Let's have an educated conversation. An educated conversation, right. So let's get right into it. You brought somebody with you, and Malik, you brought somebody with you as well. So introduce your guest, please. Yeah, brother, I'm going to go first. No, I'm going to let you go first, brother.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Sound like a Muslim, brother. You want a bean pie, brother? Oh, yeah. So for those who don't know, again, appreciate the invitation. I'm David Johns. I lead the National Black Justice Coalition. We are intentional and unapologetic
Starting point is 00:39:04 in standing at the intersections of racial equity and LGBTQIA+, and same-gender loving equality. And I want to be clear that when you guys reported this, and when I considered accepting this invitation, I had to acknowledge that this space and conversations had here have been a source of trauma for some members of the community. That's a fact. Trans folks in particular. And the struggle was thinking about the best way to ensure that we take advantage
Starting point is 00:39:33 of the opportunity that Brother Yoba has provided to make space to have these conversations. And so I both, before we do anything, want to acknowledge both the trauma as well as y'all leaning into it, listening to it, learning from it, and then making space so that we can heal and do better. Period. I'm all for that.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Right. Amen. Touching the grease. We touch the grease. Amen. Right. And also acknowledging that, you know, I'm a black, same-sex loving man, but this is a conversation centering the experiences of our trans and non-binary members of our community. I invited Nala Toussaint, who is a member
Starting point is 00:40:06 of our Black Trans Advisory Council. Thank you for having me, y'all. Thank you for coming. So, yeah, I introduced to my... The impetus, actually, for a lot of my activity in recent months and weeks is my good friend Carmen Carrera, who some folks know from RuPaul's Drag Race, and she transitioned
Starting point is 00:40:22 on television. And she's a hero and actually Carmen is the person that inspired me or made me self reflect as a person who thinks that they live authentically and lives in my truth I realize that when I hang around
Starting point is 00:40:38 my friends who are members of the LGBTQ plus community they are a lot more authentic than me. And so World Pride this past June, I thought I was just supporting Carmen on the float. You know, at first I was just drinking a tequila on the float inside.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Then at a certain point, I decided to sit on top of the float with Carmen. And it was that moment, as we're going down Fifth Avenue, in that moment I felt pride. It was just a pride for living and a pride for my people and a pride for the strength of the people around me. And so we've been working on a number of things.
Starting point is 00:41:18 You mentioned trauma, David, which is very, very real for all of our community. And so Carmen and I have a workshop called Love and Trauma, the Trans Experience, which looks at trauma and love from a political perspective, community perspective, family perspective, interpersonal. And so
Starting point is 00:41:35 we've been working on that. We've been working on some book projects, some content projects to tell these stories. And I found out about Trans Visibility March coming up on September 28th. I saw it on Instagram. I hit them up, and I said, hey, I want to support. And they said, okay, we appreciate you posting.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I said, no, no, use my name. I'm going to show up. And they couldn't believe it. They went, why? I said, I told the story about Carmen. And so I thought that. This was before you had said it. Oh, yeah, this was like two weeks ago
Starting point is 00:42:05 is this considered coming out? I think it's called stepping up I think it's called stepping up because there are a lot of black men and I ain't gonna blow up nobody but we all know who they are that are in situations where they are friends
Starting point is 00:42:22 sometimes lovers, sometimes murderers of trans women. And there has been no other cis black man. And for those that are confused about the language, cis is a term from chemistry that means two things that exist on one side. So for someone like myself who is heterosexual, who loves women, but I love people and I and I hate to see people suffering it's really really basic for me and so it's not about coming out it's about stepping up and saying yo black man when people want
Starting point is 00:42:53 to shame mr. C they want to shame Eddie Murphy they want to shame a Teddy Pendergrass they want to shame folk because of their association with folks I just felt like who else is gonna be willing to put a target on their back? I don't think Eddie Murphy ever stepped up, though. No, no one has. No one has. That's my point. Like, just this past weekend, Labor Day weekend,
Starting point is 00:43:13 two young people died, and we aren't talking about it. I said you were testing young women. I covered you to say murder, because oftentimes we say die, but I think we got to say what it is. It's murder. They didn't, yeah, they got murdered.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yes. Brutally. Now, the conversation It's not, they didn't, yeah, they got murdered. Yes. Brutally. Now, the conversation came because I guess you did an interview and out of the interview it said that you were attracted to transgender women. You know what? So let me just acknowledge all the faux pas I've made. I've been screwing up left and right, right? Because I thought it started with, oh, man,
Starting point is 00:43:43 here's a young man getting taunted in a video. Reese Willoughby. Reese Willoughby, yes. That was a Philly song. That was a Philly, right? That was a Philly. It was a Philly, right? And I see this, I'm like, yo, that could have been me at 20 years old.
Starting point is 00:43:54 But this kid is like, ah, f*** that. I like this. I was like, I wasn't saying that at 20. I knew that I had some feelings inside. I was like, why is it that if I'm with this, or if I meet a woman, because my first experience meeting a trans woman
Starting point is 00:44:09 that I was actually attracted to, but you told me I should use, what did you say I should use? I said we should start transforming the language around attractive because we also have to understand impact versus intent. So when someone hears a trans woman like myself,
Starting point is 00:44:23 I hear fetish. Right, so which is a trip because I didn't know you were trans, right? So, I see you in the lobby. Right. Because we don't have a look. I see you downstairs. I'm like, yo, that's a beautiful woman. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And so, when you told me you were trans, I leaned in to learn, right? And that's what it is. It's like, so my first experience, I was 16 years old in the club. I meet a woman named Carbon Extravaganza. I had no idea who she was. I just saw this fine Puerto Rican chick in the corner. And we start talking, and she opens her mouth. I was like, wow.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And I leaned in. I was like, who are you? Where are you from? And that was the beginning as a 16-year-old. You go, what the hell does that make me? And there was no language. Who do I talk to? Because you talk to your boys, they're going to clown you.
Starting point is 00:45:02 You're like, yo, what do you mean? I'm like, no, but this is a human being. Like she said some really interesting things. And I mean, I hope Carmen speaks up because this woman here is like a unicorn that has been schooling me left and right. Malik, don't say that. Don't do that. Like little things.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Like for instance. Also, be yourself. First of all, your nails are fire, by the way. Oh, thank you. I just walked up that show yesterday. A chromat. Light drip. For me, I've dealt with a lot of men that are just too afraid.
Starting point is 00:45:29 They don't have the language. They're quick to, I guess, pass judgment on other men or on trans women, but they're not able to stand up and say, yeah, this is what I like. For me, I grew up in Jersey. I love hip-hop music. I feel like I am just like everybody else in my generation, you know, and then to feel excluded all of a sudden at one point in my life when I'm being my 100 percent authentic self is just wild to me. And then the men that are attracted to us that keep us as a secret and are hella abusive. It's a shame, you know, and we all need love.
Starting point is 00:46:04 So when I met Malik I knew his trans attraction existed I've heard stories or whatever but I wanted to see for myself and I wanted to see where his mind was at and I wanted to see
Starting point is 00:46:12 where his intentions were being at a pride parade and I wanted to make a friend you know and I wanted to see really like what how does his mind work
Starting point is 00:46:21 and why hasn't he come out earlier alright we have more with Malik yo with David John Nalaaint, and Carmen Carrera. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Malik Yoba, David John, Nala Toussaint, Carmen Carrera. Yee. So, David, here's my question. I know earlier we discussed the term coming out and that's not the right term to use in this situation. What would be the right language that we should be using?
Starting point is 00:46:49 The term we should be using is inviting in. The thing that coming out does, it is a white people thing. It acknowledges that white people get to come out, move to gayborhoods. We've talked about this before. Hollywood, California, Chelsea, New York, Boys Town, Chicago. They then get to draw power from being gay. Most black and Latinx, black and brown, LGBTQIA folks live with other black and brown people. Most of us are concentrated in the South and states where it is legal to discriminate against us based on actual or perceived sexual identity, gender orientation, or gender expression.
Starting point is 00:47:22 It is not safe for black trans folks to come out in the way that is otherwise popularly celebrated in most instances. That's why most pride events over June are white. That's why most pride stages, the people at the microphone are gay white men. In spite of the reality that there would not be a pride anything, there would not have been a Stonewall Resistance without Marsha P. Johnson, a black trans woman, and Sylvia Rivera, a Latinx trans woman, who also then founded a political movement
Starting point is 00:47:50 that led to what we just celebrated more recently in terms of civil unions for white folks, while black folks still can't get jobs or housing and are dying. And so the thing that we have to appreciate is that so much of this is about language. When we say, when did you come out? It would work if straight people had to offer up a similar response but it's usually straight people
Starting point is 00:48:09 with their arms folded asking what did you realize you were weird when you shifted to inviting in then y'all got to do the work let me ask you y'all got to find a language and be competent when you speak because you know as a kid you know we were talking about this the other day at the kid the term was let's say for somebody mentally retarded. That would be the term. But now they're saying you can't use retarded. Right. Even for as a kid, when you would say somebody small, it'd be a midget. But now it's not the term. So we refer as a trans woman is a transgender. Like what is the term that we can use that's not offensive? So that's the important piece about relationship building, because everyone identifies differently within the community.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Right. You have some folks who will say transgender women. You have some folks who say women of trans experience because that's how they feel. And then also you have like like when you had Janet Mock, she says some folks reclaim the term tranny. So like I know for a damn sure you ain't gonna call me that. Right. Because I don't feel affirmed by that. But for some folks, they take power in that. And we shouldn't take that from them. There's also this term non-binary, right? So we know cisgender is a part of
Starting point is 00:49:10 the binary construct. And if y'all don't know what that means, there's Google. Please bring it down. Valit mentioned the term earlier. So we acknowledge that gender is assigned at birth. People assume that they are male or female, right? And that naturally, God says you're going to be this, that, or the other.
Starting point is 00:49:25 But the realistic thing that happens is that when babies are born, my sister just delivered twins. Shout out to them. Jackson Jet. When babies are born, the doctor assigns birth. They pull out instruments. They make educated guesses. And sometimes while babies are in utero, this changes. There are times where a doctor cannot actually make an assignment.
Starting point is 00:49:41 And those people are called intersex. To your point, it used to be the term that people used to call hermaphrodites, right? And so if you identify with the gender that you were assigned at birth, you're cis. If you do not agree because a doctor made a decision based on whatever that doctor was doing at that
Starting point is 00:49:58 time, that that is how you identify yourself, how you make sense of your sexual identity, gender rotation, or expression, you are trans. And there is a spectrum, right? Of what it means to be trans. Too often this conversation devolves back into people thinking about whether or not somebody
Starting point is 00:50:14 has a penis. That's right. It don't have s*** to do with that. Which is why I appreciated Malik talking about and using the word attraction. I'm a black same gender loving man. I love men but I have trans attraction. I'm a black, same-gender loving man. I love men, but I have trans attraction. I know bad black women, cis and trans, and some of this is just about using language
Starting point is 00:50:31 to make space for people. Do you find yourself attracted to cisgender women as well? Yeah. Okay. And the same thing, I think, happens with language around this issue. I make a post, and people think it is their responsibility
Starting point is 00:50:43 to call me gay, which I understood. Which there's nothing wrong with. I agree. I agree. I make a post and people think it is their responsibility to call me gay and But I which I understand nothing wrong with what I agree. I agree. That's what it isn't me. What do you consider yourself? I just will you consider yourself? He's a cisgender. No, I asked him what he considers him. I guess great based on you guess. There's a gray area there No So there's a gray area there. No. You just said yes. You guessed. You guessed. I guess I'm straight. I'm straight. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So let's... No, no, no. You don't know what you know until you know it. There might be another word for it. I don't know. But here, let me help you out. Heterosexual. So some of my favorite new people in my life are trans men, right?
Starting point is 00:51:22 Teek Milan, who you guys probably know. Yeah, I had him on my show back in the day. Teek is also a member of our advisory council. I, I had him on my show back in the day. Teek is also a member of our advisory council. I had him on Uncommon Sense back in the day. You know, the dudes from Black Trans TV, Sir Love, and Sir Night and Love 4. I've been watching these dudes,
Starting point is 00:51:35 feeling like, wow, these are black men. These are black men that have no fellowshipping with other cisgender black men. So I made it a point to reach out to these brothers and say, I want to be friends with you. I want to meet you. Let's sit down and have lunch or coffee or whatever. So I was with Teek about a week ago, two weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:51:52 and Teek says, I identify as a queer man. And I'm like, word? Well, yeah, queer for me is, you know, I'm part of the community forever. And, you know, he's saying that it's more of a cultural thing for him. I was like, wow. And he only dates heterosexual women. So I said to him, I said, well, I identify as a heterosexual male. I love women.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And so I've always identified as a heterosexual male. And so when Teague said he identifies as a queer male, I said, so does that mean if we both love heterosexual women, does that mean I need to expand my definition of heterosexuality or do I take on this new term? And so
Starting point is 00:52:37 I'm not comfortable taking on a term of queer because I don't think there's anything queer about me. I live in a world... It could be a political stance. It could be a political stance. It could be a political stance as well. So I consider myself a heterosexual male that loves women. Period. End of story.
Starting point is 00:52:54 I am not attracted to the male aesthetic. I am not attracted to men. And so that's where it gets very nuanced, I guess is the word. No, but not really. Just period, full stop. What's that? Period, full stop.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Sometimes we make these things overcomplicated, right? Like, I like strawberry ice cream. I know I don't like chocolate ice cream. I know I really like strawberry, not chocolate, because I've tried both, right? Like, what you're saying is I am a cisgender, identify with the gender that a doctor signed, heterosexual, I love women.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Man, the comma is because we live in a world where trans people are erased as cis and trans. You are a black man who loves women of color, cis and trans, period, full stop. Can I ask a question? How do you determine between a fetish and an attraction? So fetish comes as like when you only want to be with that person and the dog.
Starting point is 00:53:42 You only want to be with that person sexually. You're fetishizing them, right? Rather than being intentional and actually saying, who are you? How can I get to know you? Our community has this rhetoric that creates stigma for particularly black men who can't feel free enough to be with the authentic self, to love inclusively, to love freely. And so what then ends up happening is that stigma promotes that fetishization. Is there a difference
Starting point is 00:54:10 when we talk about name because when they're fully transitioned, let's say, is that a different name that you call opposed to somebody for instance? I understand your question. You said fully transitioned. I'm trying to say, I'm just going to ask a question. So when you're a man and you transition to a woman, right?
Starting point is 00:54:24 This is problematic. That is problematic because that fully transition. I'm trying to say, I'm just going to ask a question. So when you're a man and you transition to a woman, right? If she's still at a place. This is problematic. Yeah. That is problematic because again, transness has so little to do with otherwise male determined genitalia. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:36 We got to get beyond being fascinated with people's d***. Period. That's not what this is about. This conversation is about people's spirits. Right. Making space for people and how they show up. It ain't got to do with what they got between their legs.
Starting point is 00:54:49 All right, we have more with Malik Yoba, David John, Nala Toussaint, and Carmen Carrera. When we come back, don't move. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Malik Yoba, David John, Nala Toussaint, Carmen Carrera.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Charlamagne. I would like to hear from all of y'all on this because I want to know what's wrong with me not caring. Meaning like, I don't care who, what you identify as.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I don't care who you sleep with. Like, I don't have a problem with it. Like, you're a human being. And that's the piece. When you say, the intention versus impact, when you say,
Starting point is 00:55:20 I don't care, it's almost like, when white people be like, I don't see race. And it's like, it's the impact. It's like, how the f*** you don't see race. Right. And it's like, it's the impact. It's like, how the f***
Starting point is 00:55:26 you don't see race? You have to support. Like, how you not gonna care about race? So it's, when I hear when you say you don't care,
Starting point is 00:55:31 that's mean like, you are like erasing my existence. And at the same time, it's failing to acknowledge that you have the privilege of not giving a f***. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Because you get to show up in spaces where the assumptions people make about you and how you think of yourself and show up in the world are aligned with what they read you as. But you see what I was going to say? It's like I care, and I'm going to tell you the reason why I care. It's like when I move into my neighborhood, right?
Starting point is 00:55:56 White people all over the neighborhood, right? They already have this preconceived notion about who I am because I came from where I came from. And then when they have a conversation with me, it changes. But the thing is, we've got to be able to have that conversation and not be like, well, I didn't like the way you said that because honestly from myself and I know Charlamagne is, we don't know. That's why I was like...
Starting point is 00:56:16 The conversation is important, but I don't feel like nobody should have to explain themselves. Let me say this though, because I also feel like what gets missed and you saying I don't care is that it's not a barrier for you. You see people who they are, you engage with them. It is not the thing that you would otherwise use to dismiss somebody or discount them. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Say that. Comment in Nala, because Malik mentioned 10 years old. And another thing that we discussed is like, is that too young to make that kind of decision. But again you gotta remember the decision is made for us as Brother David was saying is that the assumption about who you are is assigned to you by the doctors off your genitalia.
Starting point is 00:56:56 So you know who you are. That's what it is. And that's why because we did have a whole conversation about this and you identify with what you identify as. At the point at which you were able to do so. So some of this is so to be clear, what the science says developmentally is that kids as young as five years of age, I talk kindergarten, it happens around that age, are starting to make sense of who they are in the world around them. So what about y'all?
Starting point is 00:57:20 When did y'all, when did y'all, I don't know, like, I'm not one of you drawn like, but when did y'all. Tell me why, why is this important for you? Why is this important for you? Why you drawn like me. Tell me why. Why is this important for you? Why is this important for you? Why you got to know the when and the why? Why is that important for you? Only because of the youth aspect to it. You know what I'm saying? Only because when you see young kids identifying as different genders,
Starting point is 00:57:38 I'm wondering if they really feel that way or now they have the choices. When did you know you were what you are? I don't know. It's a good question. Why do you expect us to be able to offer up a similar story? I never thought about it. So this is a problem that we're talking about, right? Like these assumptions.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And we play these things out without thinking through the impact, right? Like that process is intimate. It can run time. I have been in relationships with women before I identified as the same gender-loving black man. It's not only complicated as f***, it's not something that people should be expected to regurgitate on command, especially when you can't do it.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Right. So Malik, after everything that's happened, how do you feel? I feel like the freest f*** in America. That's good. That's why most people hate us, to be clear. Let me tell you something, bro. You know, that was the one secret in my life. That was good. That's why most people hate us, to be clear. Let me tell you something. That's why most people hate us. You know, that was the one secret in my life.
Starting point is 00:58:28 That was it. When you walk among your own people and you know that they have a question about your integrity and everyone's giving you the side eye, the people that used to give you the love, that's a very interesting feeling. And one of the things that I've learned in my own public persecution and vilification
Starting point is 00:58:49 is no matter how bad it was for me with people talking s***, it ain't as bad as it is for y'all. Okay, correct me if I already said you told the general public before you told your kids. That is not true. Okay. That is not true.
Starting point is 00:59:02 But your kids were getting problems now after this, like in school. Yeah, I think the mother of your child is the one who put that out there. Who? Was it the mother of your child? Who was that? I don't know her name. I don't know either. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:11 And also, I want to just... He just cut you off. He just cut you off. I'm saying, go ahead. No, I'm not going to say that. No, I was just going to say, you know, I want to apologize to the trans community for any unintentional trauma we may have caused them by our ignorance. He never apologized for anything.
Starting point is 00:59:29 That's not true. I do apologize if I'm wrong. I don't want to hurt people intentionally. No, you know, because you know, I'm community, so like, thank you for apologizing
Starting point is 00:59:38 and moving forward, I think what intentional, what intentional like apology looks like is like practice. Because the positive side is that trans people have been contributing to the black community. We got two black trans politicians right now
Starting point is 00:59:53 who are supporting bills to make sure that all black people are free. Us being trans does not mean we give up our black card, as Monica Roberts would say. Right. Like we're still black and. And the and part is important, and this conversation is important because there are spaces where we don't have access to the same rights
Starting point is 01:00:09 and privileges as everybody else. And I think that's part of it, like we said, part of it is having this space so we can have these conversations. And just like anybody else, if we say something foul or we say something wrong, call us and check us. And I think it's important to educate yourself too. I'm sure David has done it, and Malik can do that with us
Starting point is 01:00:26 and you can do this as well. Like the same thing, like the whole thing is we have to be here together. I just thank y'all for giving the things of mine. And I do want to say that it is important for us to educate ourselves too because we do have a platform. So when we have these discussions it's not always okay to just be like, well I don't know. Because there's definitely ways that you can
Starting point is 01:00:42 do your research and find out people's experiences and find out the right terminology that you should be using and look those things up so that we're not just blind when we have certain things happening. And we, the global, we also have to give grace, right? Like this stuff is not easy. The Latin root of the word education is educare. It means to draw out.
Starting point is 01:00:59 This process of learning and being challenged and trying new things and adopting new language is difficult. And people are going to make mistakes. And so it's incumbent upon us, again, acknowledging the collective trauma that we've experienced as a result of transatlantic enslavement, white supremacy, and anti-blackness, and all this other shit that we're mired in, to
Starting point is 01:01:17 give each other grace. And I don't think people are giving up that coming out lingo, only because that Diana Ross song's so fire, bro. Like, come on, James. All right. So me and Lil Nas X are going to do a song about inviting in and that shit is going to rock. You might have to.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Lil Nas X, holler at your boy. Yo, yo. This is my final thought. Someone just said this to me the other day. But see, white people love gay people's products. This is like, see, the contradiction can be about. I love gay music. I love black gay men.
Starting point is 01:01:43 No, see, people love and celebrate the things that gay people do, but they want to demonize us and talk shit about us. In the same way that white people will adopt, rape, be profited off of our culture, and then don't want anything to do with black people. And then cis, hetero black folks don't understand how the two are connected. I love black gay men.
Starting point is 01:02:00 They're hilarious. They're smart. I just do. I don't know what to tell you. I think they're all different And I'm also a little confused Because a lot of them call me sis So I don't know if it's because of cisgender No, sissy, they call you sissy Don't stick up for me
Starting point is 01:02:15 Don't let them talk to me like that Well actually, at some point we gotta talk about that too In the same way Black queer men As same gender loving men Men who have sex with men Whatever Can't stand in the space
Starting point is 01:02:31 Of demanding to be Respected In our identity And then misgender Straight brothers Right We appreciate you guys For joining us
Starting point is 01:02:38 And let's just say We care from now on Instead of we just don't care We care And don't forget I'm gonna say what Carmen said Let people love who they love But acknowledge it as well Right Like I don't care. Don't forget. I'm going to say what Common said. We can get to the point of wanting not to care, but acknowledge it as well.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I don't care who you sleep with because I honor you as a person fully without an explanation or apology. That's what I be saying. And don't forget, September 28th is the Trans Visibility March. On D.C.? On D.C. And on the 27th, we're doing our workshop, Love and Trauma. So we need all the support. On October 8th, there's a Supreme Court rally around Title VII.
Starting point is 01:03:09 There's a piece of legislation that, again, would allow employers to be able to fire trans folks or people they think are trans and others without impunity. Where's that rally? In Washington, D.C., in front of the Supreme Court. So the march is to change legislation? Yes. It's about the policy. It's really about the policy and the rights. And obviously, we have a huge election coming up next year,
Starting point is 01:03:30 and we have an administration that doesn't give to... About anybody. Exactly. And everything will be on National Black Justice Coalition's website. NBJC.org and NBJC on the move across digital platforms. Well, thank you guys so much again. Thank you. And we're going to leave this place open for you guys.
Starting point is 01:03:45 So whenever you guys want to come up here, please do. David, my God, man. I appreciate y'all. Thank you. Thank you so many times, Malik, as well,
Starting point is 01:03:51 and you guys are invited as well. Carmen, and Jesus for life. Jesus for life. You're right. That's what matters. Everybody, you guys. No, Jordan,
Starting point is 01:03:58 if he's f***ing, again, this stuff comes, you better teach. You better teach. But when we say God, you ain't paying attention to nothing about God. We're dismissing accountability. Come on. Thank you, David. Thank you, Malik. Y'all, it was, Charlamagne. You better teach. But when we say guys, you ain't paying attention to nothing about us. We're dismissing him accountable.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Come on. Thank you, Dave. Thank you, Malik. Yo, it was beautiful. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Good morning. Yo, bro, I got a question for you, man.
Starting point is 01:04:14 What? Yo, shut up, son. I don't want to hear nothing from you this morning. I got a question for you, bro. I don't want you to turn this left. Okay? Salute to David Johns and Nyla and Carmen and Malik Yoba
Starting point is 01:04:28 for coming. What are you? Um, I don't know. Cisgendered, heterosexual male? That's right. That's correct, right? You think you're straight. Man, I don't know. Okay, that's a better answer. You ask me, I'm straight. Okay? Why did you know that?
Starting point is 01:04:44 In 2019, my whole life. Oh. I'm old school. That's a better answer. You ask me, I'm straight. Okay. Why did you know that? In 2019, my whole life. Oh, okay. In 2019. In 2019, I might be a bunch of other words. All right. Straight just don't apply no more. I'm a cisgendered heterosexual male. What are you?
Starting point is 01:04:57 I'm Rashawn Casey. I don't know. No, you're not. That's the name somebody gave you. Listen, salute to them for coming, though. Yeah, salute to them for coming. I don't understand the trans world, but I understand their right to exist,
Starting point is 01:05:09 and that's all that matters. All right, well, let's get to the rumors. Let's talk Malik Yobo. It's time. She's spilling the tea. This is the Rumor Report with Angela Yee on The Breakfast Club. Now, that interview when you go see it on YouTube is a lot longer than what you heard on The Breakfast Club. Now, that interview when you go see it on YouTube
Starting point is 01:05:25 is a lot longer than what you heard on The Breakfast Club this morning. Now in 15 minutes. But one thing that Malik Yoba did address was his fraternity, Phi Beta Sigma, removing him from his youth leadership role. Here's what he had to say in the interview. It's very painful when you sit in the eye of the storm
Starting point is 01:05:42 and people come for you. Like my fraternity, well, my former fraternity, because I'm going to blow them up right now, Phi Beta Sigma. We had an executive director that was murdered like that young woman you're talking about. He was gay. He was running for public office in Louisiana. Even within an organization like Phi Beta Sigma, that slogan is culture for service and service for humanity,
Starting point is 01:06:04 no one stepped up as brothers. And so as I've gone through my storm, those brothers didn't step up for me. They stepped away. And they publicly acknowledged that. Some brothers in the organization have hit me up and said, yo,
Starting point is 01:06:19 that is a travesty because within the leadership of this organization right now, there's inappropriate behavior. Hypocritical, not inappropriate. This is what a hypocritical, right. And so at what point do we get really comfortable being uncomfortable so that we can make everybody comfortable? Okay, so what ended up happening was, according to the Sigmas,
Starting point is 01:06:43 they did feel it was necessary to take precautions to protect their values and reputation. He was serving as an honorary member of that historic black fraternity. He was named the spokesperson earlier this year, and he was supposed to be giving mentorship to pre-teen and teenage males through social, cultural, and educational enrichment,
Starting point is 01:07:00 but there were accusations against him that were made by Mariah Lopez-Ebony on Facebook. She titled it, Surviving Malik Yoba. We had sex when I was just a teen. And they felt like stepping away because of these accusations. So we'll tell you more. He did address this in a freestyle as well.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Who did a freestyle? Malik Yoba. You got it? When we come back. Okay. We'll do that in the next hour. Yo, it's so funny to watch dudes from the hood who was listening to that interview
Starting point is 01:07:26 hit me up and ask me questions. One man said, Peace, good morning, bro. I know the interview is pre-recorded, but what are the extra letters that they added to the LGBT community? I'm still confused, but still listening. And that's all you're supposed to do.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Listen. Okay? I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know the extra letters. Yeah, a lot of people hit me too. Plus. What do you mean plus? This ain't no Disney screaming you. I don't know the extra letters. Yeah, a lot of people hit me too. Plus. What do you mean plus? This ain't no Disney streaming service.
Starting point is 01:07:48 I think it's like LGBTQ. Plus. He said plus. Yeah, he did say plus. I think Malik said plus. Huh? Mm-hmm. You confused?
Starting point is 01:07:55 Yes. Somebody just asked me. So it's LGBTQ plus now? Cute. It's LGBTQIA plus. What's IA? Man, none of y'all know what y'all talking about. Y'all just in here doing the alphabet.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Eddie just walked in here and said A, B, C, D, E, F, G and started pointing at me. I'm like, what are you talking about? All right. Well, anyway, that is your rumor report. All right. Charlamagne. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Who are you giving your donkey to this morning? Well, there's a letter. LG. The G stands for giant. As in Giants fan. We'd like them to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with them this morning. Uh-oh. I don't think I like where this is going. No, you may not. Okay? All right. Giants stands for Giant. As in Giants fan, we'd like them to come to the front of the congregation. We'd like to have a word with them this morning. Uh-oh. I don't think I like where this is going. No, you may not.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Okay? Giants fans are silly. Alright? We're going to have a conversation about how silly y'all are. Because if this is y'all mindset after the first game of the season, boy, y'all in for a long, long season. Alright, we'll get into that next. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Is your country falling apart? Feeling
Starting point is 01:08:43 tired? Depressed? A little bit revolutionary? Consider this. Start your own country. I planted the flag. I just kind of looked out of like, this is mine. I own this. It's surprisingly easy. 55 gallons of water for 500 pounds of concrete.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Everybody's doing it. I am King Ernest Emmanuel. I am the Queen of Laudonia. I'm Jackson I, King of Kaperburg. I am the Supreme Leader of the Grand Republic of Mentonia. Be part of a great colonial tradition. The Waikana tribe owned country. My forefathers did that themselves. What could go wrong?
Starting point is 01:09:14 No country willingly gives up their territory. I was making a rocket with a black powder, you know, with explosive warhead. Oh my God. What is that? Bullets. Bullets. We need help! We need help! We still have the off-road
Starting point is 01:09:27 portion to go. Listen to Escape from Zakistan. And we're losing daylight fast. That's Escape from Z-A-Q-istan on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens.
Starting point is 01:10:15 So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As a kid, I really do remember having these dreams and visions, but you just don't know what is going to come for you. Alicia Keys opens up about conquering doubt, learning to trust herself and leaning into her dreams. I think a lot of times we are built to doubt the possibilities for ourselves. For self-preservation and protection, it was literally that step by step. And so I discovered that that is how we get where we're going. This increment of small, determined moments. Alicia shares her wisdom on growth, gratitude, and the power of love.
Starting point is 01:11:23 I forgive myself. It's okay. Like grace. Have grace with yourself. You're trying your best. And you're going to figure out the rhythm of this thing. Alicia Keys, like you've never heard her before. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:11:41 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was born a donkey. It's the donkey of the day. It's the donkey of the day. It's the donkey of the day. That's pretty funny. Charlamagne the devil? Possibly. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Drum, turn my mic on. Jesus. Donkey of the Day for Wednesday, September 11th goes to a fan of one of the most trash-ass teams in the entire NFL. Shut up. The New York, this season, they will not really be good at football giants. All right? The man's name is Tobias Gray,
Starting point is 01:12:20 and he was arrested and charged with simple and domestic assault and threatening police officers at the time of his arrest. Now, this is an amazing story because it warms my cold heart to see a Giants fan in handcuffs wearing a Giants jersey and Giants jacket. Now, all you, if you don't know, you should know that on Sunday, the Cowboys destroyed the New York Giants. The Giants suffered a crushing defeat, an embarrassing beatdown. They were conquered.
Starting point is 01:12:46 They were overcome, overpowered, vanquished by America's team, my team, the Dallas Cowboys. Drop on the clues bombs for my Dallas Cowboys. Tobias Gray was traumatized because of the 35-17 ass whipping they received at the hands of my Cowboys on Sunday because he knows that it's going to be more of those ass whippings handed out throughout the season from various teams. And, you know, I tell you all the time, hurt people hurt people.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Trauma is real. And if you don't deal with your trauma, you will end up redistributing that pain to others, okay? If you don't heal what hurt you, you will bleed on people who didn't cut you. And that's exactly what Tobias Gray did. Now, let the record show what Tobias Gray got arrested for has nothing to do with my Dallas Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:13:27 All right? This has to do with a team that the Giants have beaten twice in the Super Bowl. Do you know who that is, Envy? You're a Giants fan. Do you know who that is? Patriots. Yeah, the defending six-time Super Bowl champions, the New England Patriots. Okay?
Starting point is 01:13:40 The Giants fans know that regardless of what happens for the rest of NFL history, they can always say they beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl. Twice! Correct. So why you mad? Okay, trust me, as a Dallas Cowboy fan for years, we sucked. And when we sucked, I would just lean into the fact that we are five-time Super Bowl champions. Who cares if we won those in the 90s,
Starting point is 01:14:00 okay? Those are small details. So Giants, y'all have to do the same thing, alright? The Patriots are still winning. They're probably going to the Super Bowl again this year. If you're a Giants fan, just lean into that fact that y'all beat them twice in the Super Bowl and keep it moving. But Tobias Gray isn't able to do that because Tobias is too busy focusing on what the Patriots are doing now. All right, would you like to know why this loser-ass Giants fan got arrested?
Starting point is 01:14:24 Let's go to WBZ CBS 4 for the report, please. New York Giants fan is accused of threatening to shoot people at Gillette Stadium. Prosecutors say that he was actually upset over the Pats' newest signing. Tobias Gray appeared in court today wearing a Giants jersey. And police say that he posted a threat on Facebook that he wanted to shoot random people at Gillette. The man's attorney tells us that he didn't mean the Facebook post as a threat, adding that he's a Giants fan who's upset that the Patriots will be that much better with Antonio Brown. The 44-year-old faces charges for simple and domestic assault and threatening police officers at the time of his arrest.
Starting point is 01:15:00 In the now-deleted post from Gray's Facebook, it read in part, you might as well hand them the ring now. If I ever get my hands on a gun, which I don't have one yet, but I'm looking, I will go shoot random people at Foxborough. That's how y'all feeling? No. That's how Giants fans feel? No. You threatening to shoot up Gillette Stadium because
Starting point is 01:15:19 they signed Antonio Brown? Huh? That's really? Okay. Giants fans, it's too early in the season to be losing it, all right? If this is the reaction after week one, what is going to be the mindset by week eight when y'all are 1-7? All right? What's going to be the mindset at the end of the year when y'all are 2-14?
Starting point is 01:15:38 All right? Do we have to add Giants fans to the list of domestic terrorists in America? Huh? Listen, Giants fans, I want to tell y'all something, man. Losers focus on winners while winners focus on winning. It's still early in the season. Relax, okay? You don't know what could happen.
Starting point is 01:15:56 This too shall pass. Eli Manning might can't pass anymore, but this season will. All right? Please give Tobias Gray the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's. Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You are the donkey of the day. Yee-haw. At least Emory's not a diehard Giants fan. That he's not.
Starting point is 01:16:24 I was looking at his picture, though. Put his picture back up. Can we play a game of guess what race it is, even with his picture? What is he? He's black. You think he's black? Or Dominican. There you go.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I just wanted you to say it. I didn't want to say it, and I wasn't sure. I just make it sure. I can know your cousins when I see them. Shut up. I know your cousins want to see him. Shut up. I know your cousins want to see him. Get your cousins. Go get your cousin, Envy.
Starting point is 01:16:52 All right. Thank you for that donkey of the day, I guess. Up next, Ask Yee. 800-585-1051 if you need relationship advice or any type of advice. Call Yee now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Get some real advice with Angela Yee. It's Ask Yee. Morning, everybody. It's DJ MV, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. It's time for Ask Yee. Hello, who's this? Morning, it's Janone. Hey, what's up? What's your question for Yee? My question is,
Starting point is 01:17:27 is it smarter to stay in a job because it's currently making you the money or is it smarter to go with your heart and do something that you really want to do? I'm working in a job right now.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I'm in sales. And it's one of those, like, it's a constant movement. It's a constant, you have to make sure you do it. You got to make sure you do it. You got to make sure you do it, you know? And it's one of those, like, it's a constant movement. It's a constant, you have to make sure you pay. You got to make sure you pay. You got to make sure you pay, you know? And it's like, I don't know if it's what I'm supposed to do in life.
Starting point is 01:17:52 But if I don't do it, then I can't pay my bills. Well, first of all, there's nothing better in life when you can have something that you do that pays your bills that you also enjoy doing. And that is possible, right? And sometimes that doesn't happen for us right away. Now, do you know what it is that you want to do? I really want to go back to school, and I really want to go into early childhood education. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:13 I think that we need some more teachers of color, especially in neighborhoods where there are predominantly kids of color in that neighborhood. But my only issue is that I went to school previously and I have student loans that I have to pay back and I can't go back to school because I have to pay back my student loans and pay back money to the school in order for me to even
Starting point is 01:18:36 take more classes. It's like a situation where I'm kind of stuck. Right. First of all, I never feel like you're stuck in a situation. And I will say this. I know a lot of times when you work in education, and I'm trying to do some research on that right now, there are grants that will help pay for your student loans. And even sometimes when you go work at a place, they'll help you work out your student loans. That is correct. But it's only
Starting point is 01:18:59 correct if you don't have any previous loans. I already went to school, actually, for mass communications broadcasting. I wasn't able to finish completely. I need more. It's so bad. They get you in these holes where it's like if you don't finish right away, and you try to go back to school, they don't give you any loans.
Starting point is 01:19:19 They do not give you any loans. How much more do you owe on your loans? So in order for me to even finish my classes, I have to pay $10,000 to the school. Okay. Plus, my student loans for my degree was $40,000, like $38,000. So it's like in order for me to go back to school, I have to pay the $10,000 back to the school. But then I'll be stuck with more loans because I already have like 38, 30 grand in debt. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Because they do have the teacher loan forgiveness program, but you said you can't have any previous loans in order to be eligible for that? Yep. Okay. So I recommend this. Set goals for yourself. If this is something that you know you want to do and you have to work out whatever payment plans, maybe there's a low interest loan that you can take out to pay off those student loans so that you don't have those student loans anymore and then you can work out
Starting point is 01:20:08 a payment with that and then at that time you can go to school and then work under a teacher loan forgiveness program once that's paid off. But I think there's always solutions to what it is. At least you have in your mind what it is that you want to do. Now you just have to solve those problems and set those goals for yourself. I know, but I'm
Starting point is 01:20:23 telling you. Don't make excuses either. No, for $2,000, they will not give it to you for education, but I can go and get a $30,000 room for a car right now. Right, well, listen, I just want to say, for everything that it is that you want to do, you will find that solution for it. And I think this is something that you have to work really hard at. And a lot of times we talk ourselves out of what it is that we want to do for the future saying, oh, this can't happen.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I can't do it because of this. No, how can I make this happen? And you have to work on that and figure it out. I love the fact that you know what you want to do. I love what it is that you want to do because that will affect lives of other people and also be very fulfilling for yourself. Now, let's get you to that place. I think a lot of times, too, when we're working in a job that we don't love at all and we're doing it just because we have to make money, it is important for us to figure out our exit strategy. So now it's time for you to start working on your exit strategy so you know what you're saving up your money for, what you're putting it away for.
Starting point is 01:21:16 It might be that every single time you get your tax return, that's what it goes to, paying off those student loans. And you don't spend extra money on anything else just because you have a goal in mind. But just set that goal for yourself and make it happen. Yeah, that definitely sounds like something that is doable. It's just, you have other things to pay too. It's like, what do I put my money towards? I got to keep a roof over my head.
Starting point is 01:21:38 I need to drive to work. You got to do it. And just remember, at the end of all of this, you have something that's going to be amazing for you and for your future. No, for sure. That is very true. You got to do it. And just remember, at the end of all of this, you have something that's going to be amazing for you and for your future. No, for sure. That is very true. I say struggle now, rewards later.
Starting point is 01:21:52 That's very true. Very true. All right. Good luck to you. Get it going. Thank you so much. You guys enjoy your day. Thank you, Jay.
Starting point is 01:22:00 All right. Ask Yee. 800-585-1051. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, call Yee now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Get some real advice with Angela Yee.
Starting point is 01:22:14 It's Ask Yee. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We're in the middle of Ask Yee. Hello, who's this? Hey, how's it going, guys? Good morning, good morning.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Hey, what's your name, bro? Good morning, good morning. My name is Israel. Mm-hmm. And Angela Yee. Listen, I need your help. Okay. Okay. I'm trying to get a sugar bomb.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Okay, in today's world, society's like... Oh, my God. You got sugar, you know, you got sugar daddies, right? You got premium Snapchat. I'm a 25-year-old Puerto Rican
Starting point is 01:22:48 looking good, got curly long hair, 5'11", I work hard. But, yo, I'm trying to get my rent paid. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:56 I'm trying to travel. I'm trying to see great things. And I know, I know you kind of rich. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to shoot my shot real quick.
Starting point is 01:23:04 You think I'm going to be your sugar mama? No, why not? I have some advice for you, sir. Okay. First of all, there's a lot of dating apps and websites that will link you up with that sugar mama that you so badly want. And those are women that are seeking the same arrangement that you're seeking. They want to take care of a young, hot man like yourself.
Starting point is 01:23:24 And that's where you need to look. That is not what I'm trying to do right now. Okay, okay, okay. What's your Instagram? Maybe there's people that's interested. You know what? It's I-G-G-Y-W-T-H-E-S-L-I-N. I-G-G-Y.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Izzy with the flicks. I-G-G-Y-W-T-H-E-S-L-I-X. All right, let's see. I'm going to see if I can recommend you for any sugar mamas that might be listening right now. Yo, I'm a good-looking guy, man. You know, I was in 17XZ when I was like 19. Oh. I don't really let that out. Sounds illegal. It's a dark let that out. Sounds illegal.
Starting point is 01:24:05 It's a doctor. Okay. All right. Izzy with the flicks. I'm going to post a link and let's see if anybody hits you up. Okay. Okay. And what services do you offer for the sugar mama?
Starting point is 01:24:19 Listen, man, I'm a romantic guy. Listen, I'm a tourist. Okay. Listen, I light some candles, get some lavender oil, re-oil you up, you know what I mean? Get you feeling really nice, take you out for dinner, make you laugh, okay? Do looks matter? Do looks matter? You know, not.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Or just money? It's about the personality. Yeah, it's about the personality and the money. Okay, I'm trying to be financially stable out here. All right, good. You look a little like French Montana. I'm going to post a link for anybody that's listening during ASCII and let us know if anybody hits you up. Good luck, Izzy.
Starting point is 01:24:56 I hope you find your sugar mama. Hey, have a wonderful day. All right, you too. All right, well, ASCII, 805-851-051. If you need relationship advice or any type of advice, call Yee now. Now, Yee, we got rumors on the way? Yes, we'll be talking about Antonio Brown. He is the Patriots receiver,
Starting point is 01:25:14 and he's been accused of three incidents of sexual assault. We'll tell you those details. All right, we'll get into that next. Keep it locked. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Listen up. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. The Breakfast Club. Listen up.
Starting point is 01:25:27 It's just in. All the gossip. Gossip. The Rumor Report. Gossip. Gossip. With Angela. Angela Yee.
Starting point is 01:25:33 It's The Rumor Report. The Breakfast Club. Now, in the last hour in Rumor Report, we talked to you guys about Mariah Lopez-Ebony. She did a Facebook. Surviving Malik Yoba. She said that she had sex with him when she was just a teen. And she wants to let people know who applaud and salute Malik Yoba for revealing he is so-called trans, attracted to understand that he has deeper issues and other things going on with him.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Well, he did respond to these allegations and he posted this freestyle. How quickly people love to spread news with no proof for child abuse. You confuse. I see you. You choose to try to make me lose, but I can't. this freestyle. Love each other. No matter what. You my sister, my brother. Whether you be a trans man or a trans woman. I do not know. If you do not understand. Yes, this is a freestyle. All right. That freestyle has since been deleted from his Instagram page. But I just wanted you to hear his response that he did in the artistic way.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Okay. That he did it. All right. Now let's talk about The Rock. We told you that he was going to be on Kelly Clarkson's show. He was on Monday's episode of The Kelly Clarkson Show, the debut premiere episode of her show, and he talked about a lot of things, including his wedding.
Starting point is 01:26:50 We had the best wedding. We got married in Kauai. It's hard to keep something like that under wraps, but it was so private, and there was maybe 10 people with our babies, and it was just the best wedding. That's nice, a cool private wedding. He also talked about Kevin Hart because, of course, you know that's his good friend and also his son.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Everything is good. I spoke with Kevin. I actually refer to him as my son. I connected with him today, and you know what? These things happen in life, and thankfully he was strapped in nicely to his car seat, so I think that everything. Oh my God, I love you. That's like, that's real love.
Starting point is 01:27:31 That's real love, guys. There's love. Listen, I'm only kidding. We spoke to the pediatrician and he said. All right, so that's good. And I assume because he's joking around about it, Kevin Hart must be in good spirits right now as well. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Now, Antonio Brown has been accused of rape in a lawsuit now. He's from the New England Patriots now. And he's the most prominent wide receiver in the NFL. Now he's being accused of raping a woman who worked as his trainer, according to this federal lawsuit that was filed on Tuesday. A woman named Brittany Taylor, who was working with him as his trainer, he hired her as his trainer, is now saying that she was sexually assaulted twice during training sessions in June of 2017. She says he exposed himself and kissed her without permission and also masturbated behind
Starting point is 01:28:17 her and then ejaculated on her back. She did end her working relationship with him, but then ended up coming back to work with him after he apologized and said that there would be no more sexual advances. Now, Antonio Brown's statement, he is vehemently denying these charges. They said that he denies each and every allegation in the lawsuit. He will pursue all legal remedies to not only clear his name, but to also protect other professional athletes against false accusations. So we will keep you updated on what's happening. The New England Patriots said they are aware of the civil lawsuit and they take the allegations very seriously and will have no further comment until the investigation takes place.
Starting point is 01:28:54 Yeah, that's just what it is. It's an accusation and an allegation. You know, I think that he should still be able to play on Sunday. You know? And he is still playing, right? Yeah, he is. I believe so. He should be playing. I mean, it's a civil suit. All right. And just to end things off, right? Yeah, he is. I believe so. He should be playing. I mean, it's a civil suit. All right.
Starting point is 01:29:05 And just to end things off, I have good news for you. We are giving you a chance to win one of 10 trips to New York City for Powerhouse NYC. That's right. We're giving you
Starting point is 01:29:13 roundtrip airfare for two people, two nights hotel accommodations, suite tickets, and you get to meet their breakfast club. It's going down at the Prudential Center
Starting point is 01:29:20 that goes down October 26th that features Amigos, Meek Mill, Lil Baby, A Buggy, Da Baby, David O, Meg Thee Stallion, Saweetie, Polo G, Little TJ, and a lot more to be announced.
Starting point is 01:29:30 It's all presented by our friends at AT&T. I'm Angela Yee, and that's your rumor report. All right, thank you, Ms. Yee. Revolt, we'll see you guys later. Everybody else, the People's Choice Mix is up next. Let's go. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:29:40 DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Now, shout-out to Malik Yee, Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, shout out to Malik Yoba, David Johns, Nala Toussaint, and Carmen Carrera for joining us this morning. Why don't you lead with the women first? Hmm? Why don't you lead with the women first? Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Malik Yoba's his friend. Yes. Oh, okay. He was the one that we actually brought up to interview, and then we brought everybody around him. You should still bring, lead with the women first. That's just the courteous thing to do, Andy. Okay? Listen, I want to salute
Starting point is 01:30:08 the Minority Health Film Festival. I'll be there tomorrow in Milwaukee. Okay? It's going to be at the Turner Hall Ballroom. My discussion starts at 1 p.m. And, you know, it's a conversation about my favorite subject, mental health. So Milwaukee, which is one of my favorite
Starting point is 01:30:24 cities in all of the country. I'll see you tomorrow at the Minority Health Film Festival. A conversation with Charlamagne Tha God tomorrow at 1 p.m. All right. Doors open at 1130. All right. See you tomorrow. Milwaukee.
Starting point is 01:30:37 All right. When we come back, we got your positive note. Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy Angela Yee. Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. Now, let's
Starting point is 01:30:48 leave on a positive note. Yes, man. I just want to tell somebody out there that might need to hear this. Forgiveness. Something that we're all working on. Well, at least me. But forgiveness is not about letting someone off the hook for their actions, but freeing ourselves of negative energies that bind us to them.
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