The Breakfast Club - Affion Crockett On Jay-Z's Reaction To His Impression, Dangerous Karens, Toxic Relationships + More

Episode Date: July 1, 2022

Affion Crockett stops by The Breakfast Club. He talks Karens, toxic relationships and he even shows off his best impressions🤣See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. Yes, sir. If y'all crack it. What's happening, though? What up? How y'all been, man?

I've been a long time. Been a long time since I've been in this seat. That hoodie hard. Oh, thank you, brother. Yeah, I like that with the pick on the front. Yeah, my girl Keisha hooked me up with this real quick. What's up, Keisha? What up, Keisha?

Now, I saw you. You was hosting the Martin reunion, man, on BET+. Yeah. How was that? Let me tell you something, man. We all grew up on Martin. Absolutely. And, you know, it's one thing to be able to, like, imagine if you watched Sanford and Son all your life.

Right. And you was able to sit on the junkyard and interview them on the set. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. So for me, it was like Martin is one of my biggest influences. So to be able to sit in that seat and ask all of the questions as a fan, it's still mind-blowing.

It hasn't even sunk in that I was on the set talking to Martin and the cast. Did he handpick you? How did that come about? Yeah, I got a relationship with Martin. He's my big bro. So we've worked together before. Tisha, Tashina, I got a relationship with them. And, yeah, they reached out. They was like, yo, A, if we want you to do it, you're the guy. I got a relationship with them. And yeah, they reached out.

They was like, yo, A, if we want you to do it, you're the guy. I was like, say less. Dope. Get my mauve suit. It's mauve. It's mauve. It's mauve. Now, you do pretty much everybody's voices.

You make fun of everybody with skits. Has anybody ever stepped to you where it was like, you know what? Maybe I should be in the same building with that person again? Just Charlamagne. Just Charlamagne? Charlamagne threatened my life one time. Never. That never happened.

Come on. It happened. Nah. How does that look? Charlamagne threatening my life. Exactly. Anybody's life. Right.

Nah. Nobody. Nobody at all. The thing about it is when people see me do impressions of them especially in the hip-hop world they know that i'm a hip-hop head so naz for example asked me to do him before he asked pause oh he asked me to do it jesus christ before you got to it i was like wait a second that didn't come out right but yeah he asked me to do an impression of him

and i know y'all niggas ain't laughing because y'all was fingering a booty hole with no pause with no pause it was nothing but lotion plenty of lubrication and this nigga was giggling envy was like you want like, you want me to put my finger in there? Wait, wait, I've never done this before. You see, right? He's trying to act disgusting. Like, you want me to put my finger in there? I thought it was a cake.

I was like, the only thing left to do is to cut this shit and eat it with no pause. So do you ever play gay games with your friends? Whoa, wait. Wait a second. How did we get here? No, I've never done what you guys have done. What the fuck is going on, man? You brought it up.

Look, where's Angela Yee when you need her? I need a female presence in this bitch. I need a vagina in the room. Too much masculine in here. I think it's masculine. I think. It ain't masculine, but it's definitely dick. There's a lot of balls in here today. A lot of balls.

Now, where would you rank yourself as an impressionist? When it comes to like Jay Pharoah, Godfrey. I don't. I've gone on record as to say Jay Pharoah is impressionist 2.0. I don't consider myself an impressionist. If you believe that or not. I consider myself an artist who plays the part.

I'm an actor. So the same way you see Denzel play whoever, Hurricane Carter or Malcolm X, he dives into the role and he gives you, you know what I'm saying, the details that you need for that character. That's how I am with Impressions too. Okay. Because I don't impressions, too. Okay.

Because I don't just do impressions. But as far as ranking the impressionists, to me, Jay Pharoah and Godfrey are two of the best that I've ever seen. A hundred percent. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. So, if I had to rank myself out of them, I mean, Aries Spears, too, he's another goat with it. I don't rank myself. I would put all of them before me.

Jay put you up there. Jay said he thinks you're one of the best impressionists. Well, that's very humble of him. Thank you, Jay Pharoah. Appreciate that. But no, I think they do way more impressions than me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do Jay, Nas. Yeah, I mean, I do a few. Like, I do the Russell Simmons.

Russell, Jay, and then the newest one i've been doing over the pandemic was maya angelou everybody was like how the fuck do you do my engine because i just do okay it just is what it is why am i i have no idea like literally she i was talking to a couple of my home girls and they just randomly mentioned maya and i just started doing it one night and they fell on the ground laughing so I was just like okay and if you listen to the way I do to Maya Angelou voice it's not too far from Jay-Z because Jay has this thing stop I didn't say the thing yet nigga don't laugh yet

Charlamagne it's kind of in this same register so as Jay talks like this you know you have to just go right there. It blends right in to Maya. Hold on, I never thought about that, yo. It's the same person. Is it because of the rhyme? But he don't rhyme when he talk. I wonder why it's like that. They're both rappers.

They're both poets, yeah. Maya is the best rapper that ever lived. Whatever you choose to take is whatever you give. Phenomenal woman am I. Phenomenally, it's me, not Jay-Z. See, it just goes right with it. It blends. Now, Hov had to come to you one time and even find him funny or not funny.

No, Hov loves the impression. Like, the first time I met him, I thought I was going to get slapped. I ain't going to lie. Really? This was a long time ago in D.C. when Obama first got inaugurated. So, Jay did the concert right before. And this ain't a flex at all. I happen to run into Charlie Mack.

I'm just walking, taking pictures in D.C., and I see Charlie Mack. Everybody know Charlie. Absolutely. And Charlie's standing outside the venue backstage. I was like, Charlie! What up? And he's like, hey, what's up, baby? Come on, come on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. No, no, I'm waiting for people. But I got you. I got you. Come on, come on, come on. So I get backstage with Charlie Mack. It's just me and him.

So you wasn't invited. You just snuck in. I just snuck in. I was with Charlie Mack. And and I'm sitting on a speaker I'm just in the back I'm watching dudes working and shit and then all of a sudden a wave of people come down the stairs and it's Jay and his entourage they're about to go to the stage right so I'm sitting on the speaker the stage is right here he's coming down the stairs and they're all about to go to the stage he sees me and starts walking over to me and I you know how to in the movies when the camera's coming towards you but you start to get smaller that's how I felt I was like oh here it go here it go it's going down and you

buy yourself I'm dolo Jay would never get his hands dirty now Tata my pepper spray either way I thought someone was gonna you know what I know saying and he walks into me he extends his hand he's like yo you'd be doing the jigger man i like that and he gave it you know the third person acknowledgement you know you'd be doing the jigger man i was like all right whatever name you choose to use yes sir yeah you're a hundred percent right and that whole night he just kept uh walking up to me making sure i was good like yeah and then m And then Mary was on stage, Mary J. Box. And he was like, I bet you can't do that. I bet you can't sing like that.

So he was, like, really cool. He was really cool. And then we did a drop on video, and he showed the love, and he made me do the laugh in front of him. Wow. So nothing but respect, man. So if he didn't want to do the laugh, he had to do the laugh. Do the laugh. No, no, no.

He put his arm around my neck. Envy,, he had to do the laugh. Do the laugh! He was like, nah, I don't want to do the laugh. No, no, he put his arm around my neck. Envy, I think you know what that means when- Do the laugh. A guy, do the laugh. You do the laugh. Do the laugh. If a nigga does that to you, it's like DJ. You like, alright nigga.

Alright, chika chika chika. Alright. Chika chika. Now, did you see the viral video of the woman who was complaining that her child's father only buys food for his son and not her other kids? Man, we were just talking about that. Yeah, I saw it. What's your thoughts on that? She need to shut the fuck up.

She need to go viral shutting the fuck up. Did you see it though? Did I see her? Yeah, she did a video. Literally, I was just watching out in the lobby and she was explaining with her wig on and she was like you know, he knew what the situation was and I had four other kids. Bitch, just

those kids came out of your vagina. Those are your responsibilities. That's how I feel about it. I'm buying my kid food. Now, if I got a relationship with those other kids, and it's that kind of day, and it's my kid's party and I invite them all, I'm going to take care of all of them.

But if it's a situation where we broke up and I'm visiting my kid. Every day he brings a kid McDonald's. Well, she's saying that he used to buy McDonald's for the other kids, but now that they're not together no more, he don't. We broke up with the kids too, bitch. Fuck them kids. I broke up with the kids too. When I left you, them kids got left. They didn't come out of my dick.

Yeah. Them kids didn't come out of my balls, yo. They don't get McDonald's. That's that's on my dime that's facts it is a sense of entitlement she has though and it's a privilege that she clearly uh wasn't appreciating you know what i mean and now that that guy's gone she's not realizing like he doesn't have to do this he don't and what she fails to realize too is most guys unfortunately don't take care of their own kids so the fact that he's showing up every day to see his kid,

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So when you're on stage now, everything is so sensitive. Do you watch what you say and do you curb your jokes or? Nah, I, uh, cause I don't say, well, let me, I don't know. I do say wild shit. You just call that lady a bitch. You just never, you never know what can be offended. Like when I hear you say the word B, I understand culture. You know what I mean?

But some people might hear it. I say it a lot and when i say it and i see the women laugh they understand that i'm saying it in a in the funny way like i'm never being derogatory but the point to answer your question no i don't i don't uh i don't edit what i say because it comes from a real place to me and it's not coming from a disrespectful place and when you hear the context of what I'm saying, people don't get offended by that. I did have a Karen last year. I saw that when she stormed the stage on you.

That was a mix of alcohol and entitlement. Old school Karen entitlement. So when she does storm the stage, what do you do? First of all, there was no storm. Let's just talk about it. Let's get into the nitty gritty of it. She skipped? No, no. She actually crawled.

I ain't going to hold you. I'm on stage, and I'm playing to my left side, and I look out my peripheral, and she literally has her hands on the stage like a baby learning to walk. And in my mind, we're in Jacksonville. Shout out to Duval. We're in Jacksonville, florida and the stage is packed like in front of the stage is packed and i'm thinking she has to go to the bathroom and

she can't get her way around so the only way for her to get to the bathroom is to come on stage and walk down the stairs in the front and then when she she stands up and then she had her hands in the sally struthers hands like she's about to save a little nigga, right? Like she's about to please. I said, oh, she has something she wants to say. Yeah. I need to hear this. Now, some people were like, hey, man, she could have killed you.

She could have. Nigga, I assessed her vital organs like the Terminator within two seconds. Like, I'm a martial artist. I know danger when I'm around it. I don't have to look. You don't have to be in front of me

for me to feel the danger. At no point did I feel like my life was threatened. I don't know, man. I saw a white thug storm the stage on you, Avion. That's what I saw.

You didn't see that. I saw a white thug. She's a white thug. She was a white thug who was trying to creep up on you. That's why she was crawling. And she needed to be treated as such.

She had a posse with her. She needed to be treated like the thug she is. Yeah, you know what? I didn't think of it and look at it in that way. I stand corrected. That woman was a danger to society. Yes, she was. And to my young black life.

That's right. Even though I'm not that young. But, nah, man. I could have easily gave her the Enter the Dragon Bruce Lee slow motion sidekick and had that bitch fly over 18 people. And you can't because you're a black man. So as soon as you do that, even though she wronged. The headline would have been different.

That's right. So that's what I knew. I was like, yeah, what am I going to do to this woman that's going to be positive for me? Other than, you know, I talked about it for about 20 minutes. So verbally, she caught that ass whooping. Yeah. But outside of that,

she was wobbling and doing her thing. What was she upset about? Because I was talking about sex. I was talking about sex and she was just like, you're offending a lot of people in here.

And I asked, I said, all these grown ass black people in here? I asked them, are y'all offended by me talking about fucking? And they was like,

hell no. Get your white ass off the stage is what they said. How you come to a comedy show and you're mad because somebody's talking about sex? Clearly she wasn't getting enough. What was the context?

Come to Caroline's this weekend and you'll find out the context of the sex jokes that I be talking about. I be talking about my dick going inside vaginas. And the crazy part, did they let her sit back in the show after doing that? No, no, no, she got kicked out. Oh, okay, okay. They escorted her right out.

Wow. And I did 20 long minutes on her after that. It was, because it was unexpected. Like, she threw off the flow of the show for everybody. And then it made TMZ, and it caught on. And then the next city I went to, another white woman tried it. What? Yeah, yeah.

But my boy Carlos, he was like, bitch. He flew to the front of the stage and was like, nope, we're not even going to acknowledge this. Now, was this before the Will-Chris Rock thing? Yeah, it was before that. Okay, okay, okay. I think it was a clout chase. It was a TMZ moment. She was like, oh, that other white woman got on TMZ,

so let me try my hand at it. And we didn't even acknowledge it. Are you concerned about that type of stuff as a comedian now? Not seemed like you see what happened today you know i mean will and chris that's i hate when people even bring that up because that's a once in a generation i hate when people start saying comedians are under attack no the fuck we not these are all isolated incidents even the guy i was there when chappelle got uh attacked and you know I knew what was about to happen to him because I knew who all we were all there so um that was even an isolated incident that was somebody who had a personal beef with Dave and in his content and whatever his clout chase moment was but I'm not concerned

that's scary though you look at the weapon he brought in and the fact that he was able to get on that stage none of that that's very scary you know look at the weapon he brought in and the fact that he was able to get on that stage. No, no, that. That's very scary. Like you said, you could be looking to the left talking to these people and he come behind you. Right. But again, if I feared that, then I would fear going to the grocery store, going to the mall, going to the airport.

Because niggas is wild in the airports now. I don't know if you've been watching. They've been fighting and doing all kinds of stuff. So, it is what it is, man. If it's my time, it's my time. But I don't walk in or live in fear of that. I didn't know you knew martial arts.

There's a lot you don't know. You guys finger booty holes in here. Big rubber. That is martial arts. That is martial arts. That is not martial arts. Yes, it is. Mr. Miyagi, wax on, wax off.

That is partial arts, nigga. We can kill people with. Yes, it is. Mr. Miyagi, wax on, wax off. That is partial arts, nigga. We can kill people with these fingers, Avion. We were practicing martial arts in that moment. But yeah, you know, I'm not a master or anything like that, but I know enough to get away. What belt? No belt. Okay, okay, okay.

Wing Chun. You know what's so interesting? I say this all the time. Nick Cannon knows martial arts, too. People think, rub on Nick if you want to. I know Nick. Nick is a little bro. I've known say this all the time. Nick Cannon knows martial arts, too. People think, you can rub on Nick if you want to. I know. Nick is a little bro. I've known Nick for a long time,

obviously, wilding out. But Nick trains. The thing about Nick that people sleep on is how multi-talented he really is. Yeah. Like,

I don't know where he got caught up in this, what people call him, corny, but he's far from corny. The dude, I used to watch him on set. He would have a programming music board in front of him.

He'd be programming beats, and the MTV execs would be trying to have a meeting with him, and he's meeting with him. He's talking about the next line of shows and blah, blah, blah. Then he's DJing an after party, literally DJing. And then he's getting on stage with us, and he's doing characters, and he's doing, then he freestyle raps and then he he dances too so he's really he's really uh multi hyphen and then he's got a bunch of kids so who's more talented nick cannon or michael jackson oh shut up man what you could karate chop charlamagne that's a valid question come man. Let's just move on from that.

Charlamagne. Okay, it's clearly Nick Cannon. Come on, Charlamagne. You know, we talked about it. Charlamagne was out this week. Chris Brown, Michael Jackson. Who's more talented? Chris said it himself. He said that's cap.

You can't even compare the two because Michael is the influence of of Chris right very true so it's almost like saying who's more talented between Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor you can't one doesn't cancel out the other I actually heard Eddie say this years ago on Arsenio he said at there was a time when people were trying to pit him and Richard against each other and Richard was, oh, you the new young guy that's stealing my thunder. And so Eddie says, if I come to high school and get 100 on my test this year, and years ago you got 100 on your test, does my 100 cancel out your 100? No.

It doesn't. So why can't we just let Chris be great now and Michael was great then? Period. There's no who's more talented because to me they're talented in different ways. Chris is a more youthful. Chris crumps and he's a b-boy. He's a multiple hyphenate. Flips while he dances.

He does all that shit. Michael wasn't flipping, but the stuff Michael did, I saw Michael in concert. Really? I saw people fainting in front of. I've seen a lot of people in concert. Let me tell you something. I've never seen niggas faint at any other concert. And I've seen all the greats.

Michael, by far, was the one that was an alien on stage. He made people come. He made people float. It was wild. And they was they had emergency tents on the side of his shows for ER, like for people that was passing out or or whatever. They were convulsing. They was doing all kind of shit. But Michael just had that effect on people. So his his gift is beyond a talent.

Like, oh, he can dance really good. Mike was phenomenal. Yeah, the problem with the Michael Jackson, Chris Brown debate is that they're not even talking music and dancing no more. Like, you know, he's talking about, oh, he can play basketball and he can spray paint. It's like, what that got to do with what we're talking about? And then we're dealing with a series of people that don't recognize talent.

The generation that we're in, you're going to have to be talented to make it. So you have a lot of people who have no idea what talent is. You know, everything is viral videos and reality shows. You don't have to be talented to be famous now. So when people are talking about talent and who's more talented, they don't know what the fuck they're saying. I don't even know what fame is anymore. We had Kim Fields here yesterday, and I was saying to Kim, like, man, you came up in the 80s when celebrity was celebrity.

That's why it's still last night. That's why you see them now. You're like, oh, shit. Right. Fame was real. Yeah. You don't have to do anything to qualify to be famous now. You just have to be seen a whole bunch of times.

And when people see you on the street and recognize you and want to take a picture with you, now you're famous. So does that cheapen somebody like yourself who's actually talented? Right. Do you think people appreciate that talent? They probably don't, but I don't hang my validation on that. I know who I am.

I know what I got. I haven't been on your show in damn near 11 years. Damn, it's been that long? Yeah, it's been a long time. This is only my second time on this show, yet I'm still relevant 11 years later, right? So for me, it don't matter what they're saying or how they define me.

I just do what the fuck I do. And because I know that they're not qualified to put me in a category or a box, I just keep doing what I do. And you made those adjustments, right? Because, you know, you see you on social media. We saw you on the joint with Cardi B when y'all was out in the woods. You know what I mean?

Cardi tried. Shout out to Cardi B, man. She's one of the sweetest people in the world. Cardi's dope. Yeah. I was going to ask, you know, since you grinded, we talked about your grinding, how long you've been grinding. Do you respect some of these new comedians that come up

and necessarily don't have to grind the same way? A thousand percent. Why? A thousand. I was just talking to Country Wayne the other day and telling him the same thing. We put so much emphasis on the platform that they're using. When we all have this access to the same platform,

so just because they're using it and it looks easier and they don't have to grind. You sound like the old nigga like, like man back in my day, we had to walk 18 miles in snow barefooted. Now, when I see those guys, it puts me in a mindset of Def Comedy Jam back in the day or Comic View. Right. That's so-called the traditional way of how you grind to be a comedian. Right. There was garbage niggas there, too true and there was greatness in that platform too so now you have garbage on the internet and you have greatness on the internet so haha davis country wayne desi banks just hilarious just hilarious pretty miss v pretty v

they are all hilarious i literally watch their pages. I don't just watch one video. I will scroll through their pages and just have a good laugh because they're very clever. They're very funny and they've taken that platform and use it to their advantage. So why wouldn't I use it in the same way? I have the ability to do it and I'm a traditional stand-up. So I don't feel no kind of way. I feel like thank God they found a newer way to do it and to reach the audience directly. It cuts out the middleman. You know what I mean?

Agents and managers don't always have the answer. And a lot of times they don't have the patience or the desire to help develop you. And so I'm thankful that these guys figured out a way. The white boy, Trevor Wallace, is hilarious. Look up Trevor Wallace. He's stupid, but he's selling out theaters just off the internet.

You don't need necessarily to have a stand-up special anymore to get that visibility and to have people want to come see you. Like we were just saying earlier, your fame is based on how many times they see you over and over and over. Yeah. So that's what fame is. Fame is cumulative you can you can put a number to it um but to answer your question i feel no kind of way i i love these the the the folks that are on the internet that are funny i was just watching in the lobby uh y'all y'all watch filet the dude that uh does the

basketball yeah yeah yeah yeah hey man i get great laughs watching him and all he's doing is commentary but it's the way he's saying it's a talent it's how he's describing basketball something we all love to watch but he's he because he plays he's watching it in a certain way and then he's singing the you know fillet yeah you know it's just dope i get i get a kick out of all that shit, and I'm not a hater. I support anybody that's doing it the right way. That's funny. You think because we were born in, like, the 1900s, right,

that we're looking for something to validate these people? Like, instead of just enjoying them and realizing this is the new way, we're waiting for them to get signed to a TV show or a movie? I think we live in a haterater culture that's what hip-hop has become we can't wait to hate you know i'm saying um i've seen it with y'all i've seen it with anyone who is doing their thing people want to find something to say to tear you down and that's just our culture i don't know why the fuck that is back in the 70s uh it was more peace loving and you know i'm saying and hair grease and everybody was more like yeah brother yeah sister and it was more unity and something about this hip-hop world man where we want to throw away everything tomorrow and are you wearing it you

still wearing them slides ah this is last week you need a new shit and it's just a new shit so we do that with our gems too you know i mean thank god for the new shit. So we do that with our gems, too. You know what I mean? Thank God for the New Edition movie, for example, because we all love New Edition. Absolutely. But it opened them up to a new fan base. A new generation, right. That movie. And now they're thriving again. They're having another wave.

And they've had about 75 waves. But I say that to say it's a shame that a lot of our artists got to do joint concerts in theaters when rolling stones can do arenas for the rest of their life or you too because they don't throw away their gems that's right we always want the next new hot shit i would say that in radio as well like you listen to some of the pop stations they still play rolling stones right but like if you listen to some of these hip-hop stations you won't hear an LL Cool J. You won't hear a new addition. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those

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But, like, you don't even hear Montel Jordan. This is how we do it, unless it's a throwback hour. You know what I mean? Right. Which is crazy, because, like you said, it's still our gems. It's still our music. It still hits. And we need to value that.

We need to value the gems, man. I think we're so quick to throw away and to hate on. People want to see you fall. They want to see the scandal. But what I've learned on how to pivot out of all that shit is because of all of that, we live in a short attention span generation. That's real. So you do some dumb shit today, and by next Thursday, they're going to forget about that shit

because there's going to be 40 other things that happen. And by the way, people don't really care because here's the truth to the matter. If all of those people that critique us got the same type of critique every day, that culture wouldn't even exist because nobody would want that smoke. Nobody would want that for themselves. And you're right. So the people that sit back and critique everything that we do, right? Envy, I don't like his beard.

His beard is fake. I've heard people saying that. But it's true. That's true. I've heard them saying that and they talking about your transformation of your face. That's true too. I never bleach, but I got a good dermatologist. No vibes cartel? No, no vibes cartel. I got a good dermatologist.

No surgery either. They think I got surgery. No Sammy Sosa. No Sammy Sosa. And he gets his eyebrows done. Never got my eyebrows done. You do get your eyebrows done. No, I don't.

Yes, you do. I've never got my eyebrows done. I would tell y'all. You didn't get not one thread, no pluck, no reconstruction surgery on my eyebrows. That's why it goes up like this. Now, to be honest, I did get them arched back in the day, but I'll tell you why. See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See, I did get them arched back in the day, but I'll tell you why. See? See?

Look, the truth always comes out. It always comes out. I never touched my eyebrows. I never touched my eyebrows. Except for one time back in 1979 when I had one incident. I did. I used to do telemarketing. My two homegirls, Nina and Shamira.

We don't care about the story now. It's the fact that you had it done. But they gassed me up. They told me Tupac got his eyebrows lost. All right. The fact is you got it done and you fucking lied about it two minutes ago. And now you had to fess up.

You got it done. So that means every other thing is true. You had reconstructive surgery. You got surgery for the nose. You got bleach. The bleach and cream is real. It's all real. I forgot what our point was, but.

What was he talking about? I don't know. Not a goddamn thing. No, he's not getting anything. Stop it. What do you think about the current state of just comedy? Does stand-up still matter? Oh, a thousand percent.

I think comedy is in a great place, actually. We all make money off of it. The bags are nice. It's a way for you to control your own voice and destiny um it's a lot of us out here getting it and and with legitimate fan bases and comedy is very necessary you know i get people all the time coming up to me saying man during the pandemic you saved my life these are the words that they use. I'm just doing what I'm doing. I don't think about who I'm affecting or whose life I'm so-called saving.

But the fact that they feel that I helped them through whatever dark time they was in, I know what my purpose is. I know that I'm in my purpose. And even though I go through my own dark shit, you know what I'm saying? I go through my own struggles. And I'm glad you are one of the first advocates of therapy. I've been in therapy for the last three years, too. So just managing my own transparency of my own, you know, my bags of darkness or my bags of of trauma. I'm happy that I can help somebody else to my gift. You know what I'm saying?

What got you in therapy? What was the reason you decided to go? A relationship. I was breaking up with this girl, and in the middle of an argument we were having, I saw the spotlight turn around on me. And I was like, wait, I've been here before with several other women. This same type of argument, the same exact energy, it has to be me.

It has to be something that I'm doing to attract this type of argument the same exact energy it has to be me it has to be something that I'm doing to attract this type of toxicity and I literally got on the phone with my boy Jay Lee Jay Lee as an actor he's comedian too but he's one of the first friends that I had that talked about therapy right he did a whole movie about it with Michael Ealy called atypical Wednesdays. And so I called him in the midst of that argument. Like, she's packing her shit. She's doing all that shit. I said, yo, man, can you refer me to your therapist?

I think I need to talk to somebody. Like, I was really in that mindset. And so anyway, long story short, I ended up getting a therapist. And I wanted to make sure it was a black therapist because I didn't want to have the black experience to somebody too on top of other trauma right and and yeah so I started going and we clicked immediately and she helped me really navigate my life and to to put it on the table and that's something that I don't mind doing anyway I like to be transparent with myself and I don't like to lie to myself I mean most comedians are very self-aware that's why y'all are able to be so observational.

Yeah, but a lot of us feel like, especially in this hip hop culture, a lot of us feel like we still have to be tough. And we got to be cool. We got to be, we think we're rappers. You know, we try to act like what rappers personify. And I'm not trying to do that, man. Like, I can rap, but that don't mean I got to act like, your shit is all good nigga you

know me i'm out here you know what i'm saying so good like my entourage and fuck these niggas man comedians are way realer than rappers comedians are way realer than rappers to me no no but we're rappers aren't allowed to be real yeah the culture of rap does not allow them to be vulnerable. And I use the word soft loosely, but you get looked at as soft if you're a rapper that's crying or showing emotion about something. It's just, you know, rap is still built on that street mentality.

And I get it. Like, I bumped that shit in the whip, but I don't want to feel angry all the time. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Some comedians say they don't want to go to the whip, but I don't want to feel angry all the time. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. Some comedians say they don't want to go to therapy and stuff because they don't want to fix that trauma because they feel like that trauma is, like, the source of a lot of their inspiration, their creativity, their jokes. Nah, get that shit out. Get that shit out.

I don't give a fuck how creative you think it's making you. Go to therapy and get that stuff out because there's always a pattern that you're leaving when there's trauma. There's a pattern that you're living and there's a pattern that you're leaving in the wake of whoever's path that you cross. You have to get that out. You know, it's a lot of people that say cocaine makes them a better artist. Yeah. All right, but that shit is fucking your brain up though. You know what I'm saying?

You may have five uh fire projects off of that cocaine but you need to get healed from that you need to flush did it did it help you you know breaking up people don't realize that's like that's grieving you know i'm saying when you break up with somebody oh for sure call the radio yesterday he was hurt he him and his girl broke up yeah it was grieving. It's like you grieving. It's real. I was on tour years ago when I first started with this older comedian. And he said, calmly, he said, a woman can make you feel your best and a woman can make you feel your worst. That's all he said.

Damn. Bars. And hell yeah, I grieved. I grieved. bars and hell yeah i grieve i grieve because it's it's it's hard when you really are in love with somebody and you cannot figure out how to make it work and then you start going back and saying man where did i go wrong somewhere did i not get to know this person enough to to bond with them and to make it real to make it last yeah that shit. And, you know, a lot of times we, breaking up with one person is hard. And some of us have broken up with five people.

And that shit is tough. It's tough to carry. So you got to get therapy for those things. And then realize how the relationship that your parents had affected you. Oh, absolutely. You know what I mean? That's where a lot of the trauma lives. So therapy, therapy, therapy.

Go get it. Word. And this weekend, you're going to be at Caroline's. They didn't therapy, therapy. Go get it. Word. And this weekend you're going to be at Caroline's. They didn't believe in me. Friday. Caroline's dead. 9.45 Saturday at 7 and Saturday at 9.45. You can get your tickets at carolines.com and we appreciate you for joining us. New York didn't believe in me.

Caroline's dead. When it's all said and done how do you think people are going to remember Avion Crockett? They're going to remember me as the guy that did it his way, you know, with a good attitude. I don't complain. I don't ask people for shit. I just do it my way.

I don't mind putting my money where my mouth is. I finance my own projects. I have the attitude of gratitude and I don't feel entitled to anything. No one owes me anything. So hopefully when they remember me, they're like, yo, that dude worked his ass off and he did it with a smile.

All right. We appreciate you for joining us. And how do you pronounce your name, the correct name? Afeon. Afeon. He called you Afeon. He called me Afeon just now.

But I think that was... Afeon? All these years it's been Afeon? There's no V in my fucking name, Atheon. Atheon. He called me Atheon just now. But I think that was... Atheon? All these years it's been Atheon? There's no V in my fucking name, Charlemagne. I just thought it was pronounced that way.

I can say Charlemagne. I didn't... How the fuck do you say Charlemagne? There's a G in that motherfucker. How did I know how to say that?

I didn't say Charlemagne. I don't think I've ever heard that. Atheon. How did you not hear it? Nigga, I always thought they were saying Afion this whole time. Wow. You learn something new every day.

My goodness. Afion Crockett. Charlemagne, fuck you. And just give me the number to your eyebrow specialist. Before my show's at Caroline, I want to make sure my shit is lined up and plucked and all going in the right direction. So last question before we get up out of here. We always ask the Mount Rushmore of comedians. Yeah. Who do you have? and plucked and all going in the right direction. So last question before we get up out of here. We always ask the Mount Rushmore of comedians.

Yeah. Who do you have? That's a long list, but for me, I have to talk about who influenced me the most. Correct. Number one is Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy. Martin Lawrence. Okay.

The Wayans family I count as one because-'s a lot of faces but it's a lot of faces on that but but you know Keenan and Damon and all of them so you mean when you say Wayne you mean just with the show I would stand up the every everything Wayans those those they don't get talked about enough as a comedy royalty right writing producing true. Right? Writing, producing, performing, stand-up, nepotism, right? In the right way. You know what I'm saying? Like, they don't get talked about enough. You're kind of an inefficient Wayne in a way.

Yeah, I'm Afion Wayans. They adopted me. In a way. They definitely adopted me, but rightfully so. And I was able to say this to Kenan when we did dance. Like I said, I said, you know, I went to the school of Wayans. I went to your school. I studied everything you did.

And he looked at me and said, he said, you did it the right way. You, you did great. You soaked up all the right information and that's why you're here. So yeah, I definitely, I know, no no no cap like i i really studied those those folks who's the first one that that embraced you was it marlin marlin and sean because i auditioned for them uh for this this pilot that we did on on vh1 and i made them niggas laugh so hard in the room sean threw a water bottle at me while i was still in in audition mode right I was playing this this rapper and I was freestyle rapping I was going going off in the room but anyway the two of them were the ones

that that understood the DNA because I studied them they were the younger Wayanses so when they used to do those characters snuff and roam I copied that like I really was just you know I dialed into that voice of what they did but anyway Eddie Martin Wayans Wayans

one more George Carlin oh yeah I would have said Chris Rock because he's up there too but he's influenced by Carlin as well

so we gotta go to the source but again that Mount Rushmore is a long list of people I slept on Carlin and don't get we got to go to the source. But again, that Mount Rushmore is a, it's a, it's a long list of people. I slept on Carlin and I mean,

don't get me wrong. I've always heard the greatness of George Carlin, but when I saw that doc that's on HBO max right now, Oh my God. Yeah. I was like, man, there's nobody doing that right now.

Fearlessly. Yeah. And he was doing it way back then. So, you know, imagine if he was alive today and doing some of that same material, how it would be received or not received because of the sensitivities that we're in. But honorable mention to Richard Pryor, like he's the godfather of it all.

I don't think he can even be ranked. And like it or love it, the genius of Cosby as a comedian, as a comedian, it's warranted. He did some brilliant stuff as a businessman, as a comedian, all the other shit I can't vouch for. You want to say his name right? What's my name? Afion. Afion. Oh my goodness, man. Mr. Crockett. That's what Russell Simmons, he says Afion.

It's very, he never said it the correct way. Afion sounds smarter. It sounds more lucrative. You should say Afion. He calls me Afion all the it sounds more lucrative you should say Afion he calls me Afion all the time oh this guy's good

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